1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,440 Hey, Clipper Nation, We're back. Welcome to clips and dip. It 2 00:00:07,559 --> 00:00:13,480 is the end of the two one three era. Officially, we can put 3 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:17,760 the We're gonna go ahead and put the statement on the screen. Who wants 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,960 to read it? Who has the best public speaking voice between the three of 5 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:30,359 us? It will, but I'll read it. I have it right here. 6 00:00:31,399 --> 00:00:36,600 This is coming from home young MISSUK, who obviously is a very plugged 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:43,240 in Clippers reporter. I don't I don't know if this hit the emails or 8 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,119 if this is on the Clippers account yet, but this is officially from the 9 00:00:47,119 --> 00:00:53,000 Clippers regarding to Paul George situation. The statement is this quote. Paul has 10 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:58,159 informed us that he is signing his next contract with another team. Paul's a 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,799 tremendous talent, an elite two way player. We feel fortunate for the five 12 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,280 years we spent with him. Over that span, he went to three All 13 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,799 Star Games, made the most three pointers in franchise history, and helped lead 14 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:12,040 the team to a place it had never been. His performances in Games five 15 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:18,040 and six against Utah in twenty twenty one won't be forgotten by anyone associated with 16 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:22,400 the Clippers. We traded a lot to pair Paul and Kawhi, and in 17 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:26,840 exchange we had five seasons of contention. Even though we fell short of our 18 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,719 ultimate objective, we appreciate the chances we had with Paul. Heading into the 19 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:38,599 offseason, our roster was constructed three great players thirty three and over, two 20 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,400 of whom could become free agents. We wanted to retain them on contracts that 21 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,120 would allow us, under the constraints of the new CBA, to continue building 22 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:52,480 the team. We negotiated for months with Paul and his representative on a contract 23 00:01:52,519 --> 00:01:56,040 that would make sense for both sides, and we were left far apart. 24 00:01:56,239 --> 00:02:00,599 The gap was significant. We understand and respect Paul's decision to look elsewhere for 25 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,920 his next contract. We explored an opt in and trade scenario, but it 26 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:07,520 would have left us in a similar position under the new CBA, with very 27 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:13,280 little asset value to justify the restrictions. We will miss Paul. At the 28 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:16,719 same time, we're excited about the opportunities we've now been afforded, including greater 29 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,240 flexibility under the new CBA. Kawhi as an All NBA player, and we 30 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:24,759 believe t lou is the best coach in the league. We will field a 31 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,280 highly competitive team this season and moving forward, use our organizational advantages to bring 32 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:38,879 top talent into it Dome. There we go, Paul George no longer a 33 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,680 Clipper, assuming he's signing to the Philadelphia seventy six ers, given that's the 34 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:53,319 only team that can sign him outright, how are you feeling at him? 35 00:02:54,719 --> 00:02:59,199 We kind of anticipated this yesterday at the very end of the show, Will, 36 00:02:59,199 --> 00:03:02,719 and I said, what's best guess earlier in the show we did earlier 37 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:07,639 in the day? You thought fifteenes ago, not earlier in the day? 38 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:16,080 Sure, basically of bridging these two shows by about forty minutes, I said, 39 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:21,879 I think I said twenty five or thirty or something like that. With 40 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Kevin coming back to the Clippers, Will yesterday shared the same sentiment at the 41 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:31,280 end of that show. He thought he was gone and going to Philly. 42 00:03:31,319 --> 00:03:37,560 We all thought the exact same thing. And a report before the statement from 43 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,879 the Clippers came out from Adrian Warzerowski talking about how far apart the talks were 44 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:47,120 between Paul George's camp and Lawrence Frank And then right afterwards he is expected to 45 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:52,159 be pursued by the Philadelphia seventy six Yers. Ago there whatever, and then 46 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:57,960 the Clippers statement came out, which I think was classy and they took the 47 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:02,120 high road, and I think it was accurate. I think it's accurate. 48 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:05,599 I think it's crazy they put it's kind of crazy. This came out before 49 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:09,560 he just signs with the seventy six ers, Like it's like just to do 50 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:13,520 a pr thing, to be like thanks, bye bye. We appreciate it. 51 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:17,240 I think, you know, when you know it's over, why not 52 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:23,560 when you know it's over, and it's a player of consequence to this degree, 53 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,560 who's one of the greatest players that has ever put on our Clippers jersey. 54 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,959 I think it's appropriate. I think it's fair. Well, how are 55 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:33,079 you feeling about the whole thing? It's official now, we like we saw 56 00:04:33,079 --> 00:04:36,879 it coming. Oh, we'll say no. I think he's having audio issues. 57 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:45,199 I mean, it's a weird way to end everything, the era itself. 58 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,800 You know, it's definitely the most fizzled out you could end this era. 59 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:59,040 Just how just the staring contest and the news things back and forth. 60 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:02,800 It's been the same new for the last five months. So you know, 61 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:05,439 the Clippers I want to offer him the four year max and that's been the 62 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,519 same news there hasn't really been any updates, so it's a weird way for 63 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,879 it to end. It's sad considering, you know, our recent memories of 64 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:20,680 what Paul George did on the court for the Clippers, coinciding with kawhy not. 65 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:25,360 But you know, it's tough given the recent stuff. But I mean, 66 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,199 the highs were great. He played some fantastic basketball for the Clippers when 67 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:31,519 they needed it. He played some not so fantastic basketball, but when he 68 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,560 got here, he put on for the Clippers. He was always wearing Clippers 69 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,439 gear. People really did believe the I want to retire stuff and all that 70 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,439 stuff, and you know, win one for the city. Woo woo woo. 71 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,680 It's obviously sucks it didn't happen. None of us want to be here 72 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,160 under these circumstances. I feel like, given the highs, we saw this 73 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,720 team, but it was it was time. It was it felt like time, 74 00:05:56,759 --> 00:06:03,680 even watching that last playoff series. It happens with him being retained under 75 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,800 his terms, getting the max contract. I think a lot of people would 76 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:14,399 have said, is this really the move that's going to set them up down 77 00:06:14,439 --> 00:06:19,920 the line, when we already know a rebuild could be around the corner more 78 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:24,759 of a reload, a retool. That's what Steve Ballmer has always said. 79 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,480 They're never gonna, you know, bottom out. If they can't, they 80 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,639 don't have as the owner right even if they had the picks. He wants 81 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,560 to field a competitive team at all times. Kind of a rollovan though, 82 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,959 because they don't have to picks, which I do want to talk about. 83 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,879 I know a lot of people are going to be mad about this perception that 84 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:54,279 PG walked for nothing, but I think the statement made it pretty clear that 85 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,600 the CBA was a huge factor in this, both in both sides not being 86 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,560 able to come to an agreement that they felt was reasonable to to to sort 87 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,680 of be able to operate and still build a team around two, one, 88 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:13,360 three, but then looking at the trades that were available to them, especially 89 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:16,399 if young talent wasn't coming from the Warriors, i e. Kaminger or something 90 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:20,399 which the reports now seem to indicate that was not that was not something to 91 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:28,600 the Warriors were really willing to get out what a show wasn't true. You're 92 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,399 but I'm saying like you're looking at basically salary filler and a first round pick, 93 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:39,120 and for that you are hard capped over the second apron, Like that's 94 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:43,680 not better that that like that is worse than letting PG walk for nothing. 95 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:48,240 Completely true, and you've been on top of this. Will you asked who 96 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:51,759 was it when Lucas was all with us recently if it wasn't for the CBA, 97 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:57,879 with Paul George be back already. I agree, Yeah, I I 98 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:03,120 really don't think it would be a question. It's it's a fantastic point. 99 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,759 It changes everything in the NBA. You have to be much more shrewd and 100 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:13,639 being able to finesse the salary cap. You have to stay limber and make 101 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:22,160 sure you have a roster that's constructed, vitamins, do your stretches, a 102 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:26,120 little bit of fluidity to it, which is more options. This is why 103 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:33,799 I even go, Yeah, it's far from what it was twenty five years 104 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:35,840 ago, and as far from what it was just two years ago. Now 105 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:43,799 it is a new CBA World Clippers. Everyone else is dealing with it too. 106 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,919 I think it would be under contract already with Golden State if it wasn't 107 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:52,360 for the new CBA. Yeah. I think that's so. Someone in the 108 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,679 chat is asking if we think Paul, like Laurence Frank should be fired for 109 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:01,679 letting Paul George walk for nothing. I think I think given the current CBA 110 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,080 that Lawrence Frank should have been fired if they gave him a max. If 111 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,440 they ended up ultimately caving and giving Paul Georgia max, I think that would 112 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,600 be the fireable offense. Do you want to explain what you just said two 113 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:20,360 minutes ago about the advantages of getting under the cap now and what that opens 114 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,320 up for them? Guys, it's the first apron, I think, yeah, 115 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,919 it's well, just that trade from the Warriors, especially if you're not 116 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,159 getting young talent, is asinine, like you're just you're over the second apron 117 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,440 to get one first round pick, Like, I just don't. I don't 118 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,360 really, I gotta be honest with you. I do not see it. 119 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:43,639 I don't. I don't see the advantage there, even if you get Kaminga. 120 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:50,360 As much as I do like Kaminga. People thought at this point he 121 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,200 might be at All Star conversations and it hasn't materialized yet. Golden State Warriors 122 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,320 have had their own issues with him, apparently attitude issues. Steve Kurr has 123 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,799 been tough on him. So I want to default twenty three. You're saying 124 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,440 could have easily done a sign in trade, right, Well, so I 125 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,720 mean, what's your definition of easily, because if the return was dog shit, 126 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:11,159 yes, they could have easily done a sign in trade, but no 127 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:13,559 return would have been the return that the Clippers were asking for. It was 128 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:20,200 reported that the Clippers asked the Nuggets for MPJ and NAGY and multiple draft capital, 129 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,519 which the Nuggets are never gonna do and is but that's worth being over. 130 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,639 The second apron. Absolutely, it's not even a sign in trade. 131 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,679 It's an opting in trade. Sign and trades aren't done anymore. It just 132 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,279 can't it. It would have been a return where people would have been upset, 133 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:43,600 you know what I mean? Like that's yeah, they weren't getting kaminga 134 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:52,639 a first Andrew Wiggetts, Moody Looney. So we're gonna have like a proper 135 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,480 eulogy or whatever for the two and three era at some point after today, 136 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,600 Raiders Clippers doting, what's the next steps since they make a running for DeRozan 137 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:07,799 or Clay. I think definitely taking a meeting with Clay, you know that. 138 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,519 Yeah they're there, Yeah, they're definitely taking a meeting with Clay. 139 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:16,200 And I think DeRozan, he's just been there's years of talking about him and 140 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,399 the Clippers. I think they're absolutely going to try and click something on there, 141 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:24,919 you know what I mean. I do want to say, as I 142 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,039 tweeted out earlier, like I have no issue with a professional athlete going out 143 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:33,559 and getting as much money as he can. And not only is he getting 144 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,879 more money, he's still in a great situation. Maybe to make the argument 145 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,279 is a better situation in Philly? What is it? Yeah? I don't 146 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:46,120 know if it would be that, but Max, he's really young, really 147 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,879 good, ascending getting better. Oh, Joel Embiid is a two time MVP 148 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:56,799 or one time one time, he's been top three, three or four times. 149 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:03,799 I mean, yeah, he's he's in lead player. They're chiming in 150 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,720 with loads of creativity a k A just saying ha ha ha. What does 151 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:11,480 happen now with the podcast? Are they gonna have to do this? Is 152 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:16,720 Philly gonna be able to facilitate his needs for the pod? Does the pod 153 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:24,600 end? That's the biggest question. Maybe a hiatus? Yeah, the podcast 154 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,919 pod? Yeah, that's very funny. But I think that I think the 155 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:35,440 names that we've been seeing tossed around that's who the Clipper. The Clippers aren't 156 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,000 seemingly there's no one they can really go for. Who's like a young four 157 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,720 with the assets they have, who's like available for the m l A or 158 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,279 anything like that. You know, like maybe Norm you aren't available, right, 159 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:54,120 That's what I mean. It's it's tough. You have to hit on 160 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:58,159 the margins, and you have to hit in the draft. It's never been 161 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,679 more important than right now with the new CB a period. Yeah, and 162 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,120 you have to play guys that are young, regardless of the growing pains, 163 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,399 to see what you have. If you hit in the draft, every team's 164 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,960 gonna be doing it to some extent. Denver Nuggets done it the last two 165 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:18,200 years and they won a championship during that time playing young guys, giving two 166 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:24,240 guys Peyton Watson last year, Christian Brown before that, who was playing minutes 167 00:13:24,279 --> 00:13:28,879 in NBA Finals, significant minutes. Yeah, this is a good question from 168 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,639 Junction. Is Norm more important to the team? I think yes. There's 169 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,360 not a lot of go get a bucket guys on the Clippers right now, 170 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:41,759 and Norm is one of two, one of one and a half, right, 171 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,879 like Norman is crucial for the Norman Pale hive is up. His value 172 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,639 is up right now, and we all love norm here. We've only thrown 173 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,879 him out as a trade possibility because he's one of the more tradable contracts and 174 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,120 talented players on this Clippers team that others would be interested in. Yeah, 175 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,840 he's not that we don't like him or don't want him. Yeah, there's 176 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,399 a lot of what's next. I mean, I guess we're gonna see in 177 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,120 the next couple of days. Could we do a Jeremy Grant trade. I 178 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:16,320 don't know what's he making. It would just depend on the asking price. 179 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Yeah, like what we would have to give up, you know what I 180 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:24,559 mean? Yeah, are they selling well? I can't imagine. We should 181 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:31,559 advise everyone that the hour and forty minute podcast we just did was pretty thorough 182 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:37,960 with options for if Paul George ended up leaving, which is now official. 183 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:43,120 It's funny ten minutes ago. Yeah, it is funny that it's official like 184 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:46,120 this. They're just like, sorry, PG, you're we're taking your thunder. 185 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:50,279 You don't get to announce this. I don't think it's that. I 186 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,240 think it's just keeping the fans informed and being classy about it. Tip of 187 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,159 the caf to Paul George, but we couldn't come to an agreement. Yeah, 188 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,200 yeah, I wonder to drag it out any longer. From the Clippers 189 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:03,679 point of view, if they know what the impasse is and it's not going 190 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:07,000 to happen with the four year contract, I wonder who they were talking about 191 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,600 when they were talking about in that statement, the other opt you know, 192 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:15,279 the other sign and trade possibilities that would have put them in the same bucket, 193 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,919 you know, because they mentioned in that statement like there were other we 194 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,399 had some other sign and trade options, but it would have put us in 195 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:26,519 the same I think what this really does is putting out the statement lets everyone 196 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:33,480 know it's I think it's out of respect to Paul George in case they go 197 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:37,440 make a move right now on the margins and it's not going to let Paul 198 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:41,159 George know he's not going to be a Clipper. It's totally over. Because 199 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:46,600 of that, they're letting everyone know in a statement outside of just making another 200 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,639 move that would have sucked up that much Talary cap. Yeah, this is 201 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:52,080 a great comment from Buggy Fresh first signing Clippers want to keep their fans inform. 202 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:58,639 That's pretty funny. It's a good bit it's a good bit buggy fresh. 203 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,559 Looking at the Jeremy Grant numbers, like, there's no way to get 204 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:04,679 under the tax. I don't think there's any way to get out of the 205 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,720 tax. He's at thirty million next year, and then it's an escalating contract 206 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:15,039 every year until like thirty six, which isn't it's not insane with the with 207 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,480 the with the way the cap is rising. It's just we're just gonna have 208 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:22,759 to wait for the next couple of days to see how how hard they want 209 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:26,279 to pivot. Like, as we mentioned on the last podcast, which was 210 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,720 a lot longer, like there's a huge incentive for them to get under the 211 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:33,799 tax, even just for one season, because that would take them out of 212 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,639 the repeater tax, which would say them like hundreds of millions of dollars, 213 00:16:38,559 --> 00:16:41,879 which you know, I don't really care about billionaire saving money, but like 214 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:48,159 from a perspective, yeah, I'm curious how they're going to weigh that. 215 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:52,360 One hundred and ten million For Eric Gordon when you look back on his production 216 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,559 from this season didn't make a lot of sense. At the time, people 217 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:57,080 said the Clippers are going to regret this one. Oh, he went to 218 00:16:57,159 --> 00:17:02,639 Feenix, look out. Yeah with that about too nothing. This has been 219 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:07,119 brought up a couple of times, just the idea of trading Kawhi. I 220 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:12,319 don't know. If I don't think James Harden comes back to a team that 221 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,559 was gonna trade Kawhi or anything like that. I think Kawhi unless things, 222 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,799 I mean, things can obviously change during the season, but I think they 223 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:22,880 are not. I just I gotta be honest with you. I do not 224 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:29,480 believe unless like the sweet hardest of deals were out there, which considering Kawhi 225 00:17:29,519 --> 00:17:33,079 and what his value might be having not played a playoff, like not having 226 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:37,599 had a healthy playoff in four years, I don't think that deal exists. 227 00:17:38,319 --> 00:17:41,640 So aside from that, like, there's no way they're trading Kawhi before the 228 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,519 opening of into a game, of into a dome. It's just not gonna 229 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:48,160 happen. I'm sorry, there's no universe where that happens. Unless, yeah, 230 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,759 unless some team is like, we're gonna, we're ready to sell the 231 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:57,359 farm for Kawhi right now. Wouldn't they have to re establish his value, 232 00:17:57,559 --> 00:18:03,200 meaning show that he is healthy off of the last knee injury before a team 233 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:07,640 came in saying this is what we'll offer. I just don't see that happening 234 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:10,200 right now. And I agree with Will, like they're going into into it 235 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:14,920 dom with Kawhi and James Harden. Yeah, I mean yeah, it's people 236 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,799 pretend like that's not big of an issue, but it absolutely is something the 237 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,519 ownership is thinking about. And like you said down the line, could they 238 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:26,559 pivot. Sure, James Harden is on a one and one like he's likely 239 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,720 going to take the if he has a great year, he's going to likely 240 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:36,240 opt out. Yeah, Michael Yun keeps bringing this up when the chat is 241 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:40,519 the other plane as they get joined the second option, if you can't beat 242 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:42,319 them, have them join them, have them join you and then beat them 243 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,880 up. I don't know. Yeah, weird day we again, just a 244 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,559 weird way for the whole ara to end it just you know, it just 245 00:18:49,599 --> 00:18:53,079 feels it's like when you light a firework and it just kind of goes and 246 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:57,799 it just goes off and it just doesn't I don't know, Yeah, it's 247 00:18:57,839 --> 00:19:02,160 not it's a blip. It's so weird that that it ends like this. 248 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,279 I guess maybe I'm waxing too nostalgic for it, but like just a fizzle 249 00:19:06,319 --> 00:19:11,119 of statements back and forth, and then the statements just over it was. 250 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:18,079 It wasn't sudden, it wasn't unexpected, it wasn't a huge surprise. It 251 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:23,720 was in some ways anti climactic, I'm sure even on absolutely anticlimactic. From 252 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:32,039 the NBA buzz point of view, this isn't some huge shock to the NBA 253 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:38,119 landscape or the world. This is top with the slow steamroller for months now. 254 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,960 Yeah, that's such a great bit. If you've been reading those tea 255 00:19:44,039 --> 00:19:47,680 leaves, they have been leading us to this point. I don't think anyone's 256 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,440 I don't think anyone's read more tea leaves than Clippers Twitter in the last four 257 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,119 months. Also, somebody just said that like title window officially closed. And 258 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,960 I just want to say, if Paul George had returned, especially at the 259 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,559 contract, he was looking at title window still firmly closed. And you also 260 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,720 have zero maneuverability, like you can't even try and get better, Like if 261 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,799 one of those two goes down, like you have you got jack, Like 262 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,160 I mean the title window Jack, it was closed. It was closed either 263 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,799 way. Sorry, this last year was this last year was the final chance 264 00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:27,240 didn't happen. Sucks, but that's what it is, let's have some fun. 265 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:32,640 Let's stop but let's stop chasing the title and stop chasing the fun. 266 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,279 No, no, I don't want that. I don't want that. Two 267 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:44,480 of the greatest players ever on the team. Still, I don't think it's 268 00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:48,440 out of question, out of possibility. Again, the Dallas Mavericks were not 269 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,440 supposed to get as far as they did. Things opened up in their favor. 270 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:55,799 Every title winning team has had good fortune and good luck. Clippers have 271 00:20:55,799 --> 00:21:00,359 not had a lot of that. But if things actually lined up for once, 272 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,160 you have to You have to meet the moment right. You have to 273 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,759 be prepared for the moment should an opportunity arise, that's where you have to 274 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:11,599 be. And if Kawhi is healthy and James Harden's healthy, I think it's 275 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:18,200 not totally out of the question, not totally out of the question. Have 276 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:26,000 fun yea, we would have loved Russell Westbrook. No I said I wanted 277 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:34,039 to watch fun fair. That's fair. Michael Hashimoto with a good point too. 278 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,119 It's other than trade. They were hurt. It was a it was 279 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:47,759 a health issue. It's hard to trade hurt guys more than twice. Again, 280 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:52,559 for all inquiries about what's next, who are the guys. What do 281 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:56,720 we feel about player X, player Y. We just did an our forty 282 00:21:56,799 --> 00:22:00,720 podcast that just posted right before the that you guys should check out after this. 283 00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:04,759 Yeah, it'll shake up too. We're gonna have Uh, there's no 284 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:11,319 news coming up. The Clippers have some maneuvering that they're able to do given 285 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,720 the taxpayer, m l E and all of these things that are to come 286 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:18,519 to fruition. And we'll get to it all. But unless it's a big, 287 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,799 I don't know where type of move, are we going back on for 288 00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:26,640 a rest train? I don't think so. You're absolutely not. I think 289 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:33,240 everyone knows this pod stance on that. Yeah, that would flow from you 290 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:36,480 guys especially. Oh yeah, are we we're gonna put this one up on 291 00:22:36,519 --> 00:22:38,000 audio. I think right, we'll do it. We'll do it all. 292 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,880 We'll do it right. Okay, Jeremy Mormon, give us a goddamn break. 293 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:48,960 We don't have we don't have dips on the lives. Okay, things 294 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,200 were too fluid. We did we did CPA. This is the third straight 295 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:59,440 dream around free agency. Also, Jeremy Mormon, thank you for watching. 296 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,400 You're always in the streams. Thank you for keeping us honest. Criticism. 297 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,680 We hear it, we accept it. Hey, we're all having fun over 298 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:12,799 here, much like you're two Los Angeles. It's time to dip, baby, 299 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,480 I have fun agenda. It's gonna be insane for everyone. I'm not 300 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:21,799 all gonna have fun agenda. Sorry, go ahead, I get the chip. 301 00:23:21,799 --> 00:23:26,799 It's time to dip. It is a great time all. I know. 302 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:32,519 What were you about to say for everyone pining for this show and saying 303 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:37,279 we were lazy and not doing enough shows during this period of uncertainty. I 304 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:41,519 hope you got your fill over the last couple of days. It's been a 305 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:48,680 good time. We'll see y'all probably soon. I don't know. We might 306 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:53,240 have to take tomorrow off. Janina saying we've been moody this past week. 307 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:57,759 Give us a break. But that I say, I don't know. Yeah, 308 00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:02,880 it's hot, two, one, three is over. We did have 309 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,799 good dips, but we gotta go. I need to go eat food or 310 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:11,119 something. I'm gonna get out of here. I hope everyone has a great 311 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,440 rest of your night. We'll be back. Let's go clips and as Will 312 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,039 would say, let's just have some fun.