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Uh uh, hey, everybody,
welcome to Rose Pricks. It's a very

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exciting day of the week. It's
the day that we talk about vander Pump,

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and I'm getting excited about it.
Cecily, are you though, because

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I don't think you're at the level
that you need to be. Well,

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you will be after what I'm about
to talk to you about. I mean,

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it's these people are all just just
a bunch of trash pandas. It's

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trash pandas times. What's another?
Okay, what's I like pandas? I

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don't know why we make them trash. Let's let's what's something what's like a

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like trash piranhas? Trashy rabid?
Could can piranhas get rabies? You know

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that's a really good question. And
so we're gonna pivot today's podcast instead I'm

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talking about Vanderpump. We have a
guest an animal animal activist. Oh okay,

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what did you say? An animal
scientist? But you are more of

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an activist. I don't want an
activist. I don't want somebody who's standing

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up for rabid piranhas. Why they're
beings just like you and just like me.

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Who do you think, like,
why do you think you're superior to

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a piranha, and then then something
that's not assentient being what is something that's

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horrible that we don't like, like
a big pile of dustball, like they're

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they're like dust, but but that
is trash. You can't be a dustball

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trash because that's the same thing we've
gotten off We've got an off track.

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But listen, I'm so, I'm
so and I know I said this last

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week, Stephanie, I'm so amped
up. There are so many easter eggs

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in this episode. There's so much
happening. It's like a fucking it's like

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a it's like a Taylor Swift song
every day every day. All right,

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start at the beginning of it,
or I'll let you lead first of all.

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And here's the thing about this situation
that we're doing like we are.

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We're recapping the show, so we
do it the next morning, but there's

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so much that happens. By the
time you probably put your headphones on to

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listen to this podcast, a million
things have come out, so we're always

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sort of playing catch up, and
it's it's gonna be impossible. So I

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do I just want to say,
I know we're a little bit behind.

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But and I know this is like
two days ago news, but we need

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to talk about Tom Sandoval his interview
on Howie Mandel. Okay, a couple

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of things. First of all,
why would you go on of all the

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podcasts, of all the things you
could go on? What don't touch me?

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Don't touch me? What? What
that's like? That's kind of a

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cross that's Howie Mandel meets Vinnie Barbarino. Sakatay, Yeah, it's it's it

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just doesn't make any sense. It
makes no sense. And according to Andy

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Cohen, who, by the way, I trust zero percent. Oh,

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I was gonna say, can we
not like hold him up as Oh,

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I don't, I don't trust anything
he says. In fact, there's still

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a tiny bit of me that thinks
this entire thing was staged and everybody's in

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on it and it's brilliant. But
you know, we have to put that

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aside and assume that's not the case, because we're we're coming at it like

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it's real. But I don't even
know anymore. But Andy's saying that Bravo

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never approved him going on any podcast
because you know, they have to do

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Bravo related shit. Right right,
okay, And I mean really, so

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he chose he chose Howie Mandel,
like not start, not Mark Marin,

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not us. Yeah. And I
don't think knowing Tom Sandov all the way

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I do, which is very very
well. I never mentioned that to you

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before. But it's not like he
and Howie Mandel are like old friends.

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No, they're not old friends.
And oh oh sorry that got very Phoebe

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or Rachel or whoever. The thing
is is that you can see how he

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has no idea who Tom Sandival is. So how he has this podcast with

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his daughter who's very into scandabal okay, the whole thing. And I don't

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listen to the podcast, but she's
obviously wanted him on the show and was

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like, Dad, we gotta get
I mean, this is this is what

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everybody's talking about, this thing,
and how he's like okay, but he

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literally does. He's like, so
tell me who you are again? Now?

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Who's Tom? Now? Who's now? Who's Raquel? I'm not joking.

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He has no clue, oh my
god. And the fans are just

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like not having it. They don't
think it's adorable, they don't think it's

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like, oh this boomer, Oh
my god, let's let's explain Scanda like,

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I don't know what the mind,
what the reasoning behind this was,

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and does his daughter seem embarrassed by
it? She does seem embarrassed. Yes,

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I watched this on YouTube. It's
over an hour and it's excruciating because

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Tom Sandival is such such an asshole
when I tell you the things that he's

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saying. Oh, I've read about
what he's saying. I what I liked

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was on I was gonna call it
after the final rose on Andy Cohen's you

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know, on the after show and
watch what Happens, which I always want

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to call watch what Crappens because of
but I when they asked La La if

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she'd watched the thing, and she
was like, no, no, it's

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an hour. I'm not going to
spend an hour watching that guy talk.

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Laala is so bringing it. Somebody
on Whispering wrote, um, La La

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is a bad person and a bad
friend. That was their tame, and

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I wrote, that's your take from
last night's episode. That's that's your one

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take. I got a lot of
likes. Okay, let me, um

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let me just play you. I'm
not sure exactly where this is going to

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come in but who cares to know
what? We do this for free?

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We do? You know that we
do this for charity. So yeah,

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this is all nonprofit. We're a
nonprofit. People don't know that about us.

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For piranhas with brabies, we're such
good, beeful. Yeah, I

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love paranas. We love all secrets, all creatures, all sentient beings.

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That's kind of our thing. A
lot of people don't realize that. You

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know, everybody's been so focused on
the toms, but like, there are

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really nice not all piranhas hashtag.
A lot of paranas are just they're just

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villainized because of their teeth, and
I'm that's fair. Yeah, the movies

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portray them in a very negative light, very they make them seem like they

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just eat things and pray and that's
that's the eat prey eat parana. Don't

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realize that they are really good on
the pedicure, you know, you hear

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about going to Tokyo or those places
where you put your feet in this little

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thing and you get a little fish
with the baby, the baby, the

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baby piranhas. But yeah, they
do a great service. They give you

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massaged, they massage your feet off, they eat the dead skin dud Okay,

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well, I guess you just want
to have dead skin on your feet.

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This has been our vanderp We have
good night, so much for coming

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out, support your local whatever.
Okay, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna

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press play. I don't know what
this is, but this is Tom Well,

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I do know what it is.
It's Tom sandival On. Um.

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Howie Mandel keep wanting to say Stern, but like like Stern even wants them

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because Beth Beth is just like I
love cats and I love scandabal and I

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want to do I want them on
the show. And Howard's like, okay,

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Robin's like, I don't I don't
love it. I don't love it.

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Um, all right, this is
just I'm just coming in. I'm

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just coming in anywhere to get it, just to get a sound of his

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voice. And then I'm gonna go
foray forward a little bit, okay.

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And we always wanted to make sure
and keep the optics up optic like a

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solid, powerful couple because as part
of our brand. Oh and is that

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something that you discussed with her?
Like to say, yeah, that's a

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fair question. We're kind of at
best like roommates and we love each other

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and we're really good friends. Shut
up. How share with the world that

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this is not the perfect relationship?
Is that a discussion? It's sort of.

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I mean, especially with being on
a reality show where you feel like

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you got in front of me,
is around you, you know that want

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to try to dig up there about
anything. We were very private in that

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sense because you know, it's it's
not like the safest of places. Okay,

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hold on, let me get to
this place where I know that's something

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that really pisces me off. Let's
stay here. That's it. It's a

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TJ max commercial. It got me
really mad that it's just upsetting because,

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like they you think you're going to
be a fashionista and then you go there

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and you're like, what, I'm
looking at the stuff that's off the runway

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and it's not even that much cheaper. Yeah, and I see TJ Max

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and I think, oh, Sandival, he wears TJ Okay, cool,

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I'll wear it. I love his
little tank tops. Okay, wait here

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we go. She didn't notice how
distance you were, like, okay,

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this is Howie did it. Blaming
Ariana right, she didn't notice notice.

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Maybe she felt like you were drifting
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and he was giving these and this
is something you needed to do. I'm

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not you're not judging you what I'm
saying. You can judge me all you

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want. I don't want to,
but I'm not judging human and you're being

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sorry. I forgot how much I
appreciate that. And but what I'm saying

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to you is, it's kind of
like when she's made to realize, maybe

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through therapy or that's what I'm saying. It's not even a wife, not

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even a girlfriend. It's a it's
a it's a girlfriend, it's a partner,

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it's a brand. You're in business
together together, and you live in

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the same house. Yeah, that
you both you are you partners in the

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house? Yes? Yes, are
you still in the house. Um yeah,

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it's actually been it's actually been really
pretty pretty calm lately. Okay,

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So that was not exactly where I
wanted us to be. But just so

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you know, visually, the daughter
is just giving Howie, like the look

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of like, what the fuck are
you saying? Because before this, as

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you've probably read, how he's giving
me, I've eat it on my wife

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vibes. Yeah, oh my god, oh yeah, oh my god.

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Yes, exactly and that's oh,
I didn't even think about that. He's

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like, let's not all just blame
the guy here, Like things happened,

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people grow apart. I'm not judging
you. How could I judge you.

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I grew apart from my wife and
we have an open relationship now. So

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who's all you have to do is
let her know though this is Oh,

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that's what the vibe I was getting. Oh, oh my god, exactly

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that. So basically, and you
probably saw this if you if you looked

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it up, which I think you
did. He blames her. Sandoval in

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this interview says Ariana, like,
we weren't even really together, and I

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tried to break up with her for
so long, and she was We were

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just different people Like I, if
I'm down, I like to get up

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and go out and work out and
see my friends. She just stays in

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bed all day. And it just
wasn't attractive, he blames. He throws

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her under the bus in a way
I have never even experienced as someone who's

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been where she is like, he
says, oh, she's kind of yeah.

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I just wasn't and she wasn't having
sex with me. There was no

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spark, there was nothing, so
somebody posted this on something one of the

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Bravo pages and they gave sort of
bullet points. I want to give credit

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to this person brands by Bravo.
I guess I'm not sure exactly who wrote

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this, but I think so.
Okay, okay, So these are the

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bullet point Max brands whoever. Yeah, they're like TJ Max. Yes,

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TJ Max. It says. So
he saw and talked to Roquell as often

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as he could, and said Arianna
chose to not notice her fault. She

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didn't notice. She didn't really pay
attention enough to him. Said Arianna changed,

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and he was he was trying to
really hard at the end. At

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the end, Arianna was trying to
save it, which we saw. He

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says. He broke up with her
on Valentine's Day, but didn't share with

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with anybody. They said they're still
in the house together. We just heard

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that. And it's not on the
market yet. He has no friends he

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can go stay with. What about
Roquell? He says, Arianna punched him,

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but also as so, you've been
on a television show for like eleven

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years. You can't afford to just
go get an apartment. Yeah, so

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you don't have to torture. You're
I mean, listen, divorced dads do

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it all the time. It's implying
that he implied that she potentially threatened self

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harm if he left her. So
he's even if that's true, and we

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are not judging that, but if
that is true, like what a fucking

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fucked up thing for Tom to share
in the most like private personal moment for

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her. The names like her for
being like so upset this is all happening

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all in public, and because he
wanted to have sex with Roquell, whose

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name is not even Roquell, her
name is Rachel. Yes, because he

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wanted to have sex with her and
got obsessed with her, which he says,

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he admits to having just gotten obsessed, and like they were obsessed with

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each other, he says, facetiming
each other constantly, always either on the

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phone or facetiming or texting. So
because he wanted that he was willing to

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make a mockery of her, that's
exactly right. Also, he says,

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on this thing he goes. He
says he's been sober for four days,

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and he may continue that he's really
proud of the fact that he's been sober.

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For four days. Oh my god, I have to drink some water.

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Hold on him. Sorry, I'm
going to go away from the mic.

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Because we all have misoponia, don't
we. Nobody wants to hear that.

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So interesting because, as you know, I'm a sober person. And

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when I had right after i'd quit
drinking, I wrote a blog post about

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it to a small amount of people
on my blog at the time. It's

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like a few hundred, and then
I've told you this story. I kind

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of got outed because the New York
Times picked up the story, and I

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had all these shows trying to get
me to come on and talk about being

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sober. But i'dn't even sober like
a few weeks, and I was like,

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absolutely not. That's insane, Like
that is so ridiculous that a person

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who hasn't been sober very long would
go like, Yeah, I'm sober,

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let's talk about sobriety, like the
idea, like that's something you keep to

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yourself, Like the idea that he
would be talking about how he's been sober

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four days. No, you stopped
your body's detoxing for four days. Who

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cares, you didn't quit drinking.
You're not doing any work, right,

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oh god, No, there was
no Not only that, I mean,

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that's that's apparent on a macro level
because he's he's has no self awareness at

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all. He doesn't feel it,
doesn't seem remorse. He seems so angry.

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He's not remorseful at all. He's
not like, you know, relationships

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are tricky and there's a lot of
things that you don't see on a reality

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show. But I you know,
I love her to the death, and

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I'm I'm so sad that I heard. I mean, I want to just

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fix it for him. She's fine, She's absolutely fine, and she's not

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gonna get off too easy either.
I'm a little pissed at her as well.

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I don't think she's I said this
last week too. She's no hero

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here, but she didn't deserve this. And like, there's so much to

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that interview. I mean, there's
so much more where he just like the

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things he says about like she just
wasn't he wasn't hot for her anymore.

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She never had sex with him,
she didn't even notice when he was flirting

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with so much in care Are you
kidding me? Yeah? But I think

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also, what's I and I understand
why you're really upset by that, but

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also he and freaking Rachel Roquel deserve
each other. She's so terrible, she

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was such a bad episode for her. Let's get into that. Let's get

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into the episode. So where China
and Brock. Oh, and you also

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know of the rumors about Brock,
right, So there's a rumor that Brock

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hooked up with Roquel, and that's
why China was so mad that she allegedly

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punched her, which she's still denying. I don't know if I believe.

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I don't know who to believe there, But on watch what Happens, they

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did like a pool and I saw
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if they believe that, but they
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seems, you know, now we're
going down like sort of a qan on,

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like when you when you read things
online. There's so many conspiracies,

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right, But I mean, who
can say I don't think so with Brock,

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I don't. I actually just I
don't like the guy, but I

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don't think so. Uh Okay,
so we would have said that about everybody

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else too, probably so right,
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ever said it about Sandoval. Sandoval
ended up with Ariana in a cheat he

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was with Kristen, he was dating
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was still dating Kristen, and she
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right, still not saying in any
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he also there were so many members
of him cheating, and that's what we

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talked about last week too. Jack's
was screaming it from the rooftops. He's

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like, why am I always the
guy? Why are you guys always pointing

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figures with me? Sandoval cheats every
single time he leaves the city, and

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and Ariana is like what No one
believed him except Kristin. Except Kristin,

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who was like, I'm telling and
she she I don't think she used the

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word gas lit back then, but
she was screaming, and everyone like,

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why don't you believe me? Interesting? Yeah, I use cheating Arion And

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the whole time he's a fucking lying, cheating narcissist. I know he's a

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human, as Howie Mandel wants us
to remember. I get that we don't

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want him to be harmed, but
like he could take a minute. Yeah,

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okay, So Roquel is a c
word. I wrote it. That's

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the first thing I wrote for this
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so a Schwartz. I always give
Schwartz a pass, but he's also a

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C word. So we open up
with that with Roquell and Tom the kiss,

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and then they go they go somewhere
private and make out, and then

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Schwartz is like, I won't make
out with you again, and then she

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says, no, you can make
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you want, which I think comes
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what actually happens is she she's saying, no, let's you can make out

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with me whenever you want. Oh
yeah, she's saying that, but and

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then she says her Roquelle says,
I mean she already hates me, so

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whatever. All of this is like
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Katie. Oh one, she does
say that it is being done at Katie,

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but it's also like a cover up. She was never I don't think

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she was into Schwartz. This was
Sandoval was already happening, right, so

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this would be a fun little thing. There was some point where I feel

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like Schwartz says something to somebody like, oh, are you mad or is

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so? Is it illegal? He's
not talking? Oh, he says it's

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not. It's not illegal. He's
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He feels bad about that. Oh, I'm kissing my friends, my friend's

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obsession, all for the show,
all to cover up everything. I don't

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know why. I mean, this
is just a conspiracy. I don't you

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know, it's a theory. I
don't know. It seems like it's probably

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true, though, I mean it
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So then Shena calls La La the
next day and and she's like, did

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you see did you see with Katie's
in the room? How bad did you

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feel for Katie in that moment when
Sheina tells La Lallah, did you see

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Schwartz and Rockel make out? I
felt terrible? But also and this is

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like, I know this is not
the point, but uh, you know,

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as a as a newer viewer,
I also just I can't take the

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Shena constantly with about her wedding,
like she really was first calling her.

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I know she was. I know
the real reason was to talk about the

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kiss, but when she first calls
her, it's to bitch her out about

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not being at her stupid party.
Oh my god, enough Shena with oh

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my god, Lalla, why are
you not at Why are you not twenty

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four seven at my beck and call? Oh you know, along with fifty

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other people. I mean, listen, I I really am loving Lalla this

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season, and I know that.
That's how I've had arguments with people online

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about it. And I get it. She has done terrible things too,

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That's the thing we've said. She's
cheated, she's she's done women dirty like

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she's But I do think she's grown
a little bit, like she's who you

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want on your side, Like if
I was ever mad at someone, I

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want Lalla back and oh yeah,
and she's holding her own and I think

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she holds her own machina. She's
not scared of anybody. She's just like,

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I've been at your I'm coming to
your events enough, ye be at

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the wedding, I like. But
yeah, so, uh, Lala doesn't

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react exactly the way she was hoping. So then she gets right to the

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oh my god, this kiss,
like what about them kissing? Yeah?

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And poor Katie, I agree with
you, it was horrible. I love

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that she. Katie was pretty strong
too, we find out at the end

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of the episode spoiler that she's been
seeing someone, which she's allowed to do.

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Um, but the whole deal was
just not in our friend group.

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Yeah. Yeah, so now she's
like, okay, cool. That gave

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me the exact kick that I needed
to like move on for sure. Like

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I think she got I think she
grew stronger from this and handled it.

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She's also seems very medicated. But
we'll come back to that. Um,

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Okay. Then I just wrote fuck
you, James. I don't remember.

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Why would you know why? Yeah? I wrote, so James sucks because

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he's like, Yeah, what everyone
wants to make out with Raquel. They

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want to her, they want to
fuck her in the pussy and up the

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ass and then the mouth. My
dog pomped back into the room. Right

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when I said that, I was
like, oh, people, I'm sorry,

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that's not what That's not how mama
usually talk. That's not what this

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show is. But then Ali,
his girlfriend is like, you guys are

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disgusting. She's tough too. I
love She's way too good for James.

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That will not last. Yeah,
but what is the deal with Like,

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this is who this guy is,
and you're like, I'm going to walk

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out of the room. This is
tiresome, Well, it must be tiresome

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every moment of every day with him. And also it's always comparing Roquel,

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like he's saying, yes, of
course, she's so beautiful, of course,

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Like he can't even hold back on
that. He's like, everybody wants

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to Yeah. I think he's frustrated
because she broke up with him, but

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also because he knew that all these
guys wanted to have sex with her.

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He already knows about Sandoval. By
the way, there was an easter egg

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in there. You can tell like
he already knows about everything, I think.

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And so he's like, I told
you everybody wanted to find No one

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believes me. No one believes a
little British guy. That's what I think

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he feels. But I who can
speak for James. So during this part

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though, too, when she's because
so Shena calls back, they're like,

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go get the information. So Sheena
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they're on the phone with Brock and
they're like, oh, everyone saw them

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kiss. And then that's when La
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And then sheina says no, no, no, no, we're not

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going to do that, and then
Shena goes, okay, it's that all

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that whatever, it's fine, but
I just really want to come back to

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the fact that you miss some really
special moments. Shut up, sheina,

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she's so awful. She's like,
yeah, no, right, I can't.

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Sometimes she talks like the Pleasure Veneers
they're too big. So it's like,

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yeah, I mean, I just
you didn't call to my party and

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you're in Hawaii party, but okay
whatever, Like it's just it's so much

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even worse than that because of that, with like this, I can't I

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really really really don't like don't like
Shena. We are on the same finally.

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I mean, you love James,
I feel like, yeah, he's

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great. You love sand of all. You just support him, you believe

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in him. But we're on the
same page about Shena bats for sure.

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So now Roque Roquel is a sociopath, Like she just has no she doesn't

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care what she says in front of
whoever. She's so happy with herself.

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I wrote, she's talking about having
a moment with Schwartz in front of Sandoval.

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Remember that. She's like, yeah, we had a moment yeah oh

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yeah, oh that was yes,
and he had to act like he didn't

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care. He's like like coke clench, the coke clench, the sand of

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ball. Cocaine clench is beyond Like
he should go live somewhere where he can

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like work for a cartel or something. So I just saying. So,

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then we're in the Shena is in
a room, like in the hotel room

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with Roquell, and she just cannot
stop talking about how she's just like Lala

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missed the biggest event, like the
biggest event of all the events that were

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happening for my fucking wedding, you
know, the two weeks of NonStop partying

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for my wedding. That was the
biggest event. She missed it. And

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then Roquell goes, yeah, not
a good let Yeah yeah yeah, just

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like a fucking little Bitchy's sickophan.
She's she's got a sick of fan.

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She's not even smart enough to be
a sick aphan. She's not even like

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she doesn't even let someone take charge
of her. She's not even a beta

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because she doesn't even know how to
do that. She's an omega. She's

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the bottom one sorry, I know
she's a human now. I want to

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say this a little easter egg.
I don't know if anyone caught it.

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They're in the room, but then
they go back to Schwartz for a second

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and he's talking to someone off camera
and you can't quite tell who it is,

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and he says something I just wrote. Who's he talking to you?

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For a second, I think it
was Jack's. The voice I heard was

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Jack's, because Jack's was at the
wedding but opted to be off camera.

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He producers, apparently, according to
Jack's, asked if they wanted to film,

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you know, do you want to
film with the guys for this even

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though and he said no, Itchina's
big day. So we're just gonna He

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and Brittany are just gonna get you
know, They're not gonna stay at the

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same hotel, but they're gonna be
there. Okay, So I think Tom,

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I think Schwartz was talking to Jack's
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Oh, that was crazy. I
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I'll just go back to the room. Remember when he says that, Yeah,

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it didn't seem to be Sandaval,
but I could be wrong. Um,

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Okay, are we at the part
now where Tom where they're all in

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the room and Tom starts yelling Roquell, Roquell, Roquel, with Ariana sitting

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right next to her. Can we
just jump to that because I lost my

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mind? Okay, but we need
to just just talk about the fact that

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because it was so annoying that Roquell's
like, wouldn't it be funny because they're

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all just trying to fuck over Katie. She's like, would it would it

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be cool? Like I should walk
down the aisle with Schwartz. Oh that's

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later. No, oh maybe I
think so though I think I'm going in

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order, but um sure, yeah, okay, it's shitty. It's so

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shitty. I mean, of course
that she wants to say that because she's

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I mean, there's no like,
there's no defending her a thing. When

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she's like, I mean, here's
the thing, like just because my pageant

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history. Yeah, like I'm a
pageant girl, so it's like really important

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to me, like the way I
walk. She's just she's horrible. Yes,

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yes, for sure. But then
okay, so now we're at a

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party. Now we're at a party, and this is I've I mean,

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this is probably where everybody was like, what, So they're all drunk,

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and I, as I've said before, I can't prove this. I assume

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they're on molly. I know they've
done that a lot in the past.

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That's what they seem to be doing. They seem to be on something beyond

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just drinking. Okay, right,
So they're all sitting at this table,

402
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.359
Tom, Roquel, this is the
order in Ariana. They're all just sitting

403
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.640
there and all of a sudden,
Tom's going Roquel Rocque, Roquel at Aarni

404
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.759
Ariana go stop Tom, they're being
weird. Stop Why are you yelling Roquel?

405
00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:03.680
With Tom Sandoval was doing that or
Sanda mall Yes. It was the

406
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.279
biggest moment in the whole thing.
And I wrote like, oh my god,

407
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.000
this can't be real. There's no
way that Ariana. I was like,

408
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.799
this has to be fake because even
her acting actually seemed a little off

409
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.200
on this. I'm like, she
knows something, she knows something. This

410
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.599
is so weird because Sande balls like
Roquel, he goes, he goes like

411
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.759
this. He was like Raquel,
Raquel, Raquel, Raquel. He keeps

412
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:29.400
doing that and Ariana goes stop it, and then what does he do?

413
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.000
And he's like, whoa what.
I just think it's like, she's just

414
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.000
I don't know, she's he doesn't
really do anything. He's just acting bizarre

415
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.680
and cooked out. Okay, that's
crazy. So oh no, here's what

416
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.480
it is. He says, oh, because Raquel just made out with Schwartz.

417
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.519
And then this is where I got
mad at Ariana because instead of getting

418
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.920
really mad in that moment, like
don't do that to my friend and business

419
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.279
partner, she starts laughing and he's
like, oh my god, Okay,

420
00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:02.640
I need deets. So now it's
fine. When when when Rockell's making out

421
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:06.880
with Katie's X, I guess it's
a little bit different because they were xs

422
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.680
as opposed to Ariana, they were
together, so that is different. That

423
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:14.720
kind of kind of pissed me off. Yeah. Yeah. Arianna seems very

424
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.839
often the scene like either, like
I wrote, either she's rolling on E

425
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.759
or she's faking. She's either really
fucked up, which is probably either it

426
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.680
could be either, or she's faking
some sort of part of the storyline.

427
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:30.559
I can't place it, but it
doesn't seem authentic. M But that was

428
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.640
a major, major moment, and
then I just wrote I love you Katie,

429
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.359
and then I just wrote, Katie
does not have to explain why this

430
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:41.119
sucks. She was trying to tell
somebody at some point like this really hurts

431
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.240
Katie. We know we're with you
right now. That was that before or

432
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:52.160
after? Because I have that.
Sheena talks to Lala again more about her

433
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:56.160
wedding and is like, well,
there's a dinner tonight. Are you coming

434
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:02.039
to that? I don't remember exactly, Like, no, I'm not because

435
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:06.119
I don't want to be around Roquell
because she's a girl. This is where

436
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.599
She's like, I thought this was
a great scene for Lala. She's like,

437
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.960
listen, this is a girl who
would try to get with Randall.

438
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.759
Like, this is a girl who
goes after everybody's boyfriends. I don't want

439
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.920
to be around that. It's triggering
for me. And then her mom she

440
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.559
says her mom saw it. That
might have been Watch what happened? She

441
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.880
oh, yeah, and watch what
happened. She's like, my mom told

442
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:29.400
me to watch out for Roquell.
Isn't that interesting? Yeah? And then

443
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:32.519
Shena's like, no, she isn't, No, she isn't. And I

444
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.720
wrote, to Lala's credit, she
sticks to her guns and she's like,

445
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.720
nope, and then Shena that's this
is the scene where Shena, which they

446
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.799
replayed and the watch what happens when
Shena's like, well, this is my

447
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:47.640
wedding, so you're kind of this
is why you're here. It's from my

448
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:52.319
wedding. And then Laala's like,
everyone here has things going on outside.

449
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.599
They're outside in their life, so
your wedding is the most important thing to

450
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.759
you, but it's not the most
important thing to everybody else. And then

451
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.960
she has like a meltdown to camera. I've been a pretty chill bride.

452
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
what fucking universe have you been a chill

453
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:12.759
Bride's later that all of what you're
talking about comes up in the next thing.

454
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.599
There was a little thing that happened
before that where Schwartz. Schwartz is

455
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:22.519
telling James an Ali about the kiss
and James is being creepily calm about it.

456
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.640
A lot of people were talking about
this online. It was like,

457
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:29.720
what's going on here? Why is
James being so calm about it? Did

458
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.160
he is it because he knew Schwartz
really was just a decoy and he was

459
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.279
able to handle it in you know, moments. But it's so weird to

460
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.799
me that James, who gets riled
up about everything when when Schwartz full on

461
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.000
is like, yeah, we made
out whatever. James at that moment was

462
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.920
just like kind of chill and it
was it was creepy because that isn't either

463
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.079
he was I don't know when he
was on, but it was so weird.

464
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.319
And I also wrote Arianna and this
scene doesn't seem to care that much.

465
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.079
She's a little annoyed that he keeps
yelling Roquell, but like there's a

466
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.119
lot of flirtation going down and she's
sort of like whatever, doing her own

467
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:10.319
thing. Um, Yeah, it's
strange. And then before this is also

468
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:14.720
before there's so many things that happened. They just keep coming. The thing

469
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.119
where Schwartz is trying to get Sandoval
out of bed, remember all slept in

470
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.559
the next morning, and it's like
I wrote, why does Sandoval not care

471
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:27.720
that Schwartz made out with Rockel because
it's all contrived again and more proof that

472
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.599
he's sort of like, oh,
okay, man, what evs? It's

473
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:36.559
not what evs because they'd already hooked
up right, um. And then that's

474
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:41.079
exactly where yeah, I wrote down
like Lalas keeps exactly the thing you just

475
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.920
said stands up for Katie sticks to
her guns and Sheina says she's a chill

476
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.079
bride. I just sort of shut
the fuck up. I just when when

477
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.839
any scene with Sandoval, to me, it's like, um, it's like

478
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.079
they're playing a part. It's like
their characters in the Three Amigos, you

479
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.720
know, Like I just picture him
where like a giant, like, yeah,

480
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:07.440
somebrero hat and like, what is
happening with his look? Oh god,

481
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.640
you're right, he looks like now
he looks like he's in a sketch,

482
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.440
Like he's in a bad sketch.
Yeah, like in early nineties,

483
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:21.640
not a good like bad cast.
And he's he's also such a bad actor.

484
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:22.880
I do remember, you know,
he's an actor. Remember a lot

485
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.920
of them are. They're all trying
to be right, you know, famous.

486
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.319
But he also he did come he
didn't come from influencing. He was

487
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.920
before that, so he was trying
to be an actor and he tries to

488
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.799
act here too, and he just
it's you can always see through it.

489
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.480
That was one of my things I
hated the most about him for ten seasons,

490
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:44.160
right because he was just the worst
actor on the show. Um okay,

491
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:49.400
So yes, so they go to
their stupid dinner. Although can I

492
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:53.000
just say how beautifully sun kissed they
all looked, they all Katie and Tancina,

493
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.960
they looked so pretty. And then
when Lala joined them as well,

494
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.799
they just all looked the way they
were lit by the sun. I was

495
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.839
like, I like this, although
I kind of feel bad for Katie that

496
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.039
Christina is like I know so little
about her. I'm like, this is

497
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:12.680
who she gets stuck with. She's
so fucking boring, she really is.

498
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:17.519
They both seem a little xanexed out. They seem like Katie has had I

499
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:21.440
don't know if you know this,
but through the people have talked through the

500
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.079
years about like what is she on. She's slurring and she's always real shit,

501
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:29.279
it's too chill, so there might
be something going on there whatever.

502
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.480
So then, um, let's see
they're going on there. They have their

503
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.079
sun kiss moment. They're not at
dinner yet, this is their pre drink

504
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:40.079
and Roquell is just dumbing it up, just dumbing it up. Oh,

505
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:46.119
Lala still talking about the dawn.
Um and they she said something about how

506
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:51.400
she hadn't had dick in so long, so she dis combobulated. Yes,

507
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.400
which I think should be maybe the
name of this episode. I just wrote

508
00:33:53.400 --> 00:34:00.519
that down. Dick's combobulated, Dick
combosulated. Yeah, yeah, Okay.

509
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.480
And that's when Roquell says that she
doesn't want to walk with shorts because during

510
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.559
the rehearsal he walked too slowly and
she's a model and she can't walk so

511
00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:14.679
slowly. This is the thing,
and again we are known for not look

512
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.840
shaming. We're known for we're such
feminists. I mean, that's something about

513
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.480
us. I really don't look shame
though. We don't. We don't,

514
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:25.400
we don't, But I'm what,
so this isn't a look shame because if

515
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:30.960
you're on this reality show, obviously
you're prettier than the average person. But

516
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:35.719
I don't get the rock hell thing
like they are all acting like she's like

517
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.760
the most beautiful woman on the show. I think she's just average. She's

518
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:44.639
cute, and I don't even think
it's not like I like the Shena look

519
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.559
either, which is so over so
much makeup and all that, but just

520
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:53.559
objectively, Shena is a lot prettier
than than Roquell. They're all prettier.

521
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:58.360
I mean, Lawa's way pretty.
They're all to me. To me,

522
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.559
roque Hell is just one of the
leaner ones. So I just don't get

523
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:05.639
the obsession everyone has with how and
even with her with herself, being like,

524
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.960
hey, I'm a pageant girl,
I'm this, I'm a model.

525
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.840
It's like, I mean, don't
doesn't she have any shame being next to

526
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.760
all these other more attractions? No
self aware, She's too dumb to feel

527
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.880
shame. She doesn't feel any shame. She doesn't have that kind of mind.

528
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.239
She doesn't think beyond I mean,
I'm not in her mind, but

529
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:27.119
she doesn't seem to care. She's
so if you feel like that mind shaving

530
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.599
we are. I am gonna mind
shame her. I'm gonna mind shame,

531
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:32.440
but I got her. Oh did
you notice this? When they're doing the

532
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:36.440
rehearsal dinner, Shena, Okay,
She's like, you know what, I'm

533
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:37.599
just gonna take the veil off because
it's acting weird. She's like, it's

534
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:39.599
okay, though, it's okay,
it's okay. It's like, Oh,

535
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:45.280
you're such a hero for taking your
dumb fucking veil off that. Oh yeah,

536
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:46.960
that was during their actual wedding.
Oh was that during the actual thing?

537
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.199
Okay, somehow that may have been. I don't know how that like

538
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.800
got Oh, you're right, that
was during the actual thing. You're right,

539
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:54.920
because then they did that and she's
like, I'm just gonna take it

540
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:58.960
off. I'm here, I'm here, and she grabs his face and then

541
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.599
her vows are like you slid into
my dms. Oh, get the fuck

542
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.559
out of here with this. Yeah, but then she also ought, like

543
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.320
two camera has to talk about just
what a great bride she is, Like,

544
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.719
she's the kind of person. I'm
the type of bride that's just like,

545
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.000
I'm just about I'm just about the
getting married part. I'm just about

546
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.920
broccola. You see how I'm just
going to roll with the changes. It's

547
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.440
like, oh, yeah, that
that you have just been an example of

548
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.880
rolling with the changes. You haven't
been controlling of everybody at all. Oh

549
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.159
my god, such a good Yes. That's like she's a hero, Stephanie.

550
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:34.440
She's a bride hero, not she's
a chill bride. I love that

551
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.840
Lala was bugging James. She's really
fucking with him. I love when she

552
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.639
does that. She's done that for
seasons. Okay, so let's get to

553
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.239
James confronting Roque. Yes, yeah, you tell us about that. Basically,

554
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:50.599
James Is just says to Roquelly he's
just sick of her shit. All

555
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.760
of a sudden, he's like,
can you stop fucking making out with everyone

556
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:58.280
from our friend group? And then
he says he names the people, but

557
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.519
Peter said, well Peter, which
he did. Someone says he started to

558
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.079
say Sandoval and stopped himself, but
I didn't go back and look, but

559
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.559
I read that, which makes me
think they all knew some things. You

560
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:13.480
know. It looks like there was
something where he's like, knows Sandoval as

561
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.039
well. So he mentions all these
people and then he's like, you were

562
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:22.119
engaged to me and then and then
Roquell's only excuses like She's like, yeah,

563
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.480
how we were engaged for a long
time and then when we broke up,

564
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:27.079
you had a girlfriend three weeks later, right, and then she's like,

565
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:28.880
I'm just trying to live my life. He's like, could you live

566
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.280
it in another friend group or something
like that, something like that. He's

567
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:36.920
so mad, so sassy. He's
so sassy, But I love that Lala

568
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.719
is making it worse for him because
he's no hero either. And I also

569
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.360
back to the wedding, when the
DJ. The DJ is so lame,

570
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:50.440
like they're twenty one years old,
introducing the brad yeah and the group.

571
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.880
But this we're still right now at
the rehearsal dinner. I nobody goes back

572
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:58.639
and forth. I mean, I'm
beyond the rehearsal dinner. Oh well,

573
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.639
I have a couple of things to
before we get to their actual wedding,

574
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:07.039
which is one of them is that
sheina is made me hate her ten times

575
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.880
more because back in the hotel room, Shena's like, I guess what,

576
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.639
guys, I'm already married. Oh
that's right, Yeah, I've been married

577
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.639
for a year. It's like,
why the fuck then, and you're all

578
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.079
about like, yeah, I don't
even really care about the wedding. I

579
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.079
just cared about like being married to
like my soulmate. But well, then

580
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:30.159
why are we doing all of this? Like it did anybody else feel like

581
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:36.079
what this is all for? Show? Then your whole intense thing about this

582
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:37.880
needs to be the perfect wedding and
everybody needs to be at every single event,

583
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.400
and we have to have thirty thousand
breakfasts and brunches and rehearsal dinners and

584
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:47.039
catamarans. And you're already fucking married
and have been for a year. I

585
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:50.679
get the fuck out of here.
I know this is what I mean.

586
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.199
This is exactly okay. Okay,
So when they're at their sushi dinner,

587
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:59.079
let's talk about Schwartz showing up with
Katie and Christina. You're okay, buddy,

588
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:04.079
that was Schwartz is here. Um, Schwartz is here. Um.

589
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.559
Yeah. So they're they're having their
sushi dinner laalas with them too, and

590
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.920
remember Schwartz shows up. This is
a big deal, and he's still gaslighting

591
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:14.719
her. He's like, takes a
piece of sushi. He's like, I

592
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.199
don't want you to be mad at
me. And this is when Katie yells

593
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:20.599
at him. He's like, She's
like, I think you're a drunk.

594
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:22.360
I think you're a loser. And
then he's like, well, I don't

595
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.000
really care what you think anymore.
I've turned a corner. I don't really

596
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:30.519
care what you say. That was
a very big moment, because like,

597
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.000
it was a big moment for I
mean not that she's never said that to

598
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.320
Tom before. And I do want
to say, having watched every minute of

599
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:42.719
every episode, she's been terrible to
Tom in the past. Sometimes he's worse

600
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.559
to her, but I think she's
also you know, she rage texts a

601
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.239
lot. She name calls oh,
well she was rage texting him before he

602
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.079
shows the text. Yeah, it's
all just like I fucking hate you.

603
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.480
You're a piece of shit. Fuck
you. It is a lot crazy,

604
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.719
Yeah, it's a lot. It's
a lot. It's you know, I

605
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.079
mean, ideally, I can understand
why Katie feels the way she feels,

606
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.519
and she put out with him for
so long, but for him to why

607
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.519
does he keep lurking around these dinners? It is really weird. And then

608
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.599
and when Katie says, well,
I'm upset, he's like, well,

609
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.679
we've been divorced for seven months.
Why do you care if I make out

610
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:22.360
with Roquel? And I agree with
you that she shouldn't have to keep explaining

611
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.960
it. She's like you because it
was in front of all my friends and

612
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.039
you and you said you wouldn't yes. And then he's like, well it

613
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:31.440
shouldn't really matter. Who cares.
He doesn't care never, And then and

614
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:34.880
then he says you're toxic. It's
like, well, then why did you

615
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.840
come? And she's not coming to
you right, keep coming to her,

616
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.559
so stop coming to her to tell
her how toxic. She is. I

617
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.280
mean, okay, so let's do
this final scene before we do watch what

618
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.519
happens because I know we're long on
time. But Rocca, okay, Roquel

619
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:51.400
trying to talk to la La.
First of all, I love her.

620
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.400
She's like, I just felt like, Lalla is like, what we were

621
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:55.519
having such a good girls trip.
I thought we had a moment, you

622
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.880
cried, you had a panic attack
in the car, I hugged you,

623
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.920
remember all that, and Rockheal's like, but it just feels like you guys

624
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:06.800
weren't laughing with me. I mean, it just feels like you're laughing at

625
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:10.360
me. Yes, we're all laughing
at you. True. And She's like,

626
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.360
it's just I just I don't like
it. And then I love that.

627
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.559
Laala was like, look, girl, you have a mental breakdown coming,

628
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.440
just letting you know. I love
that she said that. It's a

629
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.639
true like I did too. But
I was wondering why at first was Laala

630
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:29.239
trying to make like First of all, Laala was back in the other hotel

631
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.320
room earlier. Laala was like,
fuck her, She's a swamp creature.

632
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.719
I don't want to ever be around
her. But then when Rockell pulls her

633
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.239
aside. At first, She's like, oh, I thought we were having

634
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.199
like a nice time, Like,
why is Laala doing that? She was

635
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:43.599
just saying that about the trip the
lake. Have a sued. This is

636
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:47.639
before now she's now she's Roquell is
dead to her because Rockhal's now as far

637
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.159
as they know, as far as
we know that, they know she's hooked

638
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.960
up with Shorts and Lalla is like, oh god no. But she was

639
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:58.079
saying, Hey, we were cool
to you at the lake. Katie was

640
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.440
cool with you. What is your
problem? Right? Are you acting like

641
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.360
this? And so that well,
she does say I thought we were cool.

642
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:06.519
She's like, I thought, well, she thought they were cool that

643
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.440
then she knows they're not cool now, right, Okay, like that's for

644
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:14.039
sure. And then okay, so
next week, a little bit of a

645
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.440
preview is that Katie's going to bring
her weird boyfriend around who doesn't look great.

646
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:21.000
But I can't judge it based on
whatever. We don't know anything.

647
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.960
I'm glad she has a boyfriend.
Yeah, okay, a little watch what

648
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.280
happens. I think we kind of
already covered it. But I do want

649
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.480
to say how much I love Gillian
Jacobs from Community. She's one of my

650
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.639
favorites. And she was in that
show Love. She was in Love and

651
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.119
I love Love and I met her. So she's friends with a friend of

652
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.840
mine and I went to his birthday
party and she was there, and my

653
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.760
friend embarrassed me because he was like, oh my god, my friend loves

654
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.239
you more than anyone. Like it
was such a weird introduction. It was

655
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.760
like, you're her favorite actress.
And I was like all right, and

656
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:52.840
I could. And Gillian was so
nice about it. She's like, Okay,

657
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:57.320
well, she's so nice, you
would love. She's sober, by

658
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.760
the way, not sober. I
don't know if she's sober, like she

659
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.719
otober, but she was talking about
she was talking about this at the party

660
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.000
and she's like, I just never
really drank. It wasn't like yeah,

661
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.039
she's just very chill really like she's
just really cool. I liked her so

662
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.880
much. But I liked them together. I didn't know. I mean,

663
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:17.880
Gillian can make anything work with anybody, to make anyone feel at ease,

664
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.280
So I thought that they were kind
of keep together. But they kind of

665
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:27.840
covered everything that we've already covered.
They were really you know, except that

666
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.639
Lalla said she was suspicious back in
August, which is kind of the timeline

667
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.679
that they're all kind of sticking to, right. I thought that was a

668
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.039
little bit interesting. Oh yeah,
she said it so many times, so

669
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:42.159
many times, she's like it was
suspicious of her. The only thing it

670
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.679
was a little bit of not the
best look for Laala. We can all

671
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.559
agree is that she did get asked
quite a few times about like, how

672
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.639
is this different, like from your
affair with a married man, and she

673
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.440
just kept going, I'm not going
to answer that it's different, okay,

674
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:58.639
and I'm not going to explain it
to you different. I'm not really sure

675
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:02.400
that. I'm sure that randol Emmett's
ex wife would say it was not different

676
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.239
to her, right, And Lala
was throwing it in people's faces, you

677
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.360
know, she was going on a
show and saying, my guy bought me

678
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:12.480
a range Rover. They used to
make fun of her because they're like,

679
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.360
yeah, I guess, suck a
dick, you get a private private jet,

680
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.360
you know, right, that was
the joke all the time. But

681
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.559
I guess the other end of that
story could be that Randall was saying,

682
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:23.840
and I'm sure he was saying,
oh, we're over. Oh she's awful.

683
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:27.360
She never sleeps with me. She's
not, you know, I guarantee

684
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.159
Randall was saying all that, right, But then, how's it different because

685
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.840
it sounds like Sandoval. It sounds
like Sandoval was saying that now here the

686
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:42.039
differences Roquell really sucks and was going
after that was in her friend group,

687
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.159
like I could see the difference being
that for Lala would be like, but

688
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:52.039
I wasn't fucking over my friends.
Like if if I was with this married

689
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:53.559
guy who was lying to me and
telling me like, oh, it's totally

690
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:57.559
over with my wife, I wasn't
fucking over his wife. I didn't know

691
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:04.400
her right as opposed to we know
that doesn't matter what Sandoval says to Raquel.

692
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:10.000
Raquel knows that that's her friend who
she has a relationship with, yes,

693
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:14.280
because it's the friend group. But
also we know Ariana and she's saying

694
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.800
what Sandoval is saying is not true. We didn't have Randall's ex wife on

695
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.400
the show saying like, Lala,
I'm telling you it's not trut he's lying,

696
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.039
right, I mean, of course
he was lying, but you know

697
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.719
right, I mean, yeah,
there's very few. I mean, do

698
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.079
we have a hero of this episode? No? Thanks, so the Piranha

699
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.440
Well, by the way, you
guys, um, thanks for listening to

700
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.840
this, but if you can go
to Piranha dot org, dot com,

701
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:42.960
dot UK dot gov, dot edu, dot Stephanie and Cecily are good friends

702
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.880
dot com. Let's talk for one
second about the coming attractions where we see

703
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:51.760
that Raquel is we're going to get
to the part where she makes out with

704
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.360
all of her Giselle's son again.
Yes, and that and that he's married,

705
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.599
right, that's the big reveal,
is like, no, he's he's

706
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:01.760
married. He's fully married. And
she's already done that. She did that

707
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.360
a few episodes ago, but she's
gonna do it again now she's now we're

708
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.480
going to go on some sort of
stupid storyline where she's gonna be like,

709
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.559
I'm really into him, and she's
she's going to be like, oh,

710
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:15.639
he's still married. Mmmmm, I
didn't know that. She's just silly.

711
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:22.119
Please don't forget that Gina was the
mistress with Brandy and then she was like

712
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.119
and she made herself the victim the
entire time that she was cheating on like

713
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.440
Brandy was being cheated on, right, right, Let's never forget. I

714
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.960
mean, all of these people.
It's just they're all trash. There's no

715
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.239
there Katie, Katie might be a
little bit of even though she raged tech,

716
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.760
she's never cheated on it. She
never cheated on Tom. Can we

717
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.840
can we make her the hero?
Okay, I need her to be I

718
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.239
need a hero. I'm holding out
for a hero till the morning light.

719
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.280
He's got to be fresh for the
fight is one. It's got to be

720
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:57.039
straw and Katie's fast. And Katie
is fresh from the fight. So because

721
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:02.039
she seems so kind of artificially load, Okay, she's not fast. Maybe

722
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:06.519
Ali's are here. She's she's strong, she's fast, she's fresh from the

723
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:08.239
fight. I guess Ali. All
right, Well, we brought you a

724
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:13.599
lot of feelings here and we want
to thank you for listening to to Rose

725
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.800
Pricks, especially if you're a newer
listener. Welcome, Welcome, Hello,

726
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:24.840
this is your first time. Keep
coming back and please join us on Tuesdays

727
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.480
for Love is Blind. Yes,
we recap Love is Blind season four,

728
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.719
which is the best season yet.
And of course if you want even more,

729
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:37.440
we bring you more. Join our
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730
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.599
we give you. That's where that's
where we get like, that's where when

731
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.559
James, because he lives with me, that's where we get him on the

732
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.199
show. Yeah, and you might
be thinking, well, okay, but

733
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.760
the show's already like I've already watched
Love is Blind, and you guys are

734
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:51.639
taking it episode by episode. But
here's what I'm going to tell you.

735
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.519
I watch the whole thing. I'm
up to date, but to do not

736
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:59.719
to do the episodes. I go
back and watch them one at a time,

737
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:04.119
and I see so many more things
to bring up on the show that

738
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.639
I didn't notice, you know what
I mean, now that I have the

739
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.679
overview. But then I'm watching it
back, I'm like, oh, I'm

740
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.239
gonna I'm gonna be solving some puzzles
for you guys. She sure is.

741
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.199
She's very good at that. I'm
like one of those people you see at

742
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:19.760
like a Rubik's Cube convention where they're
just like, how do they do that?

743
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.159
That's just like they just solved it
in two seconds, like two seconds.

744
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.960
Yeah, and Stephanie has that kind
of eye for Love is Blind.

745
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.440
So you will see on Tuesdays.
But thank you for being here today.

746
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:36.920
Yep, we love you all right, Hi mate,