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It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with
jack encrn SEO and JP Sorrow and welcome

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back in, Ladies and gentlemen to
the twenty twenty three TLF Christmas Show.

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It's the n Rapping two and Boss, I believe we have a triple threat

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coming your way from one elite member
of the Solar System over three days.

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I mean, it's gonna take three
days to open these stiffs. I mean,

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look he gave. I mean we're
talking. What is this like easily

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like a twelve inch by eighteen inch
box? Yes, with and it's heavy,

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and there are two boxes, and
then there are two fucking bags.

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And who would he be? I
mean, Santa Claus himself, Tom atanasiother's

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the greatest lapsed fan of all time. Get on his level as day one

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as it gets, any podcast would
be lucky to have them and each one.

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So the two boxes, there's one
for you, one for me.

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So this is yours. So here
we go. Oh, okay, so

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this is direct from me, This
is direct for you. I'm pretty sure

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I got direct. H What was
that? Oh? I can't wait to

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fucking clean up my office. It
is a fucking disaster because of all these

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Christmas presents. Yes, there's so
many fucking crashing. Oh wow, gift

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bag yep, there's a gift bag
here. And oh magazines, the WWF

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merchandise catalog from when says to the
top eighty nine ninety Oh fucking hell,

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cell A Fane, I'm gonna say
this one for last. Then we got

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oh, what year is this Deceummer
ww magazine? Oh, a lovely holiday

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edition of the w WA magazine with
Mick Foley in full Santa regalia. I

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remember that one. I had that
one official w CW Holiday catalog. What

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there was such a thing. Oh, and we're talking post ninety nine gray

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logo WCW. Yeah, and they're
playing the playing video games Santa Santam a

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kid playing one of the THHT games
it looks like. And then lastly lashly,

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Yeah, don't you know how to
knock flem watt? If I'm not

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mistaken, that is a sign portrait
of Buzz from home alone. It is

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Devin No not now, I think
he's okay now, but Devin rat Trey.

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Oh my god. That is a
fucking hilarious gift. That's I mean,

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I well, don't don't deprive the
people pop pop a couple of those

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merchandized catalogs open. Oh oh yeah, good call, good call. Oh

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see here are we gonna do separate
installment spots for your gifts and for mine?

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Yeah? Plant, Yeah, that's
the plant. So yeah, that's

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definitely so yeah, totally. I'm
not driving. So the w W,

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I presume this is uh. It
doesn't give a date, but I presume

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it's probably nineteen ninety nine, maybe
yes, almost, definitely. Uh.

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I don't remember them printing completely separate. I remember merchandise pages in the magazine,

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but separate catalogs like this. Look
at the ornaments for the ornaments.

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Oh my god, with the scorpion
Goldberg ornament, Goldberg's arm tattoo in the

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form of an ornament, you have
fucking teddy bears. I mean, who

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bought a single one of them?
Nobody, Nobody bought this ship. Why

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are you even making them? Although
I would take the I would take either

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of the hats. I prefer the
old logo, but look at the yeah

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WCW and a nitro hat. Yeah, the nitro logo that just tells you

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it's depressing and no one cares anything. I mean again, I'd still take

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it. But by mayhem if you
want, oh the video game. Yeah.

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Like I said in one of the
recent shows, I'm completely obsessed with

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the fact that by the time WCW's
licensing machine kicked into gear, Yeah,

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everyone had stopped caring about nitro yep, And so they were like, it's

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so flooding the market with this merch, but nobody wants and they missed the

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boat bout like a year and a
half. They old the foam title belt,

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which I love, is the ninety
one to ninety three title belt,

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Yeah, the lex Luger one.
Yeah, Like they don't fucking they haven't

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changed it, Like, are you
kidding me? Like, what's wrong with

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that? Is that a Goldberg wrestling? By that would be a Goldberg or

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a Goldberg bean brawler, a bean
brawler bean brawler? Sure that wasn't a

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Nables packet. We got some Sting
merch and some Brett merch. Sure these

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are great examples. You know,
Wow, this is bereft with Brett merch

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and Goldberg merch. You could hardly
find them on your television at Why is

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he number two? Part number two? Why is he number two with his

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Brett hard hockey jersey? You mean
the number in the jersey is number two.

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Yeah, maybe it's amount of concussions
he'd had by that point. Oh

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they get Oh my god, I
mean have NW two thousand, Brett,

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what's this nWo stuff? And rob
a belt? Look at the the Hogan

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yellow and red shirt in the pendant
with yellow red Hogan. I mean you

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did come back in the fall of
ninety nine to red and yellow. That's

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true. You can buy the Kevin
Nash the Outsider video, which I think

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we have. Actually, I think
we got that last year. We got

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to do that. At some point
I hung my Kevin Nash ornament on the

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Yeah, all these videos, all
these videos here, these are the one

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that we got last year from from
such poor releases. The sid won,

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the flare of the Goldberg, the
Hogan, the sting, what the macho

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man stuff? Look at that,
like a look at the fucking logo.

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That's the logo just mm in a
white box, no picture of his face,

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nothing like that. Just like idiot. He thought he was a brand.

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He thought he was like the Apple
logo. Stop what a sad state

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of affairs? Gorgeous George and Molly
and Medusa. That's that's that's a that's

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the time capsule. Please. Oh
and this you know what? Also too?

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This is good here too this.
I just realized this. It's not

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just eighty nine ninety, it's Fall
Winter eighty nine ninety. So for w

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W oh man, that's this is
for good. This is definitely hitting those

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loins. You twk about it felt
good to be a wrestling fan. So

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just ten years prior, ten years
prior and you just looked at it.

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I'll just soak this in just subject, man, that looks so perfect.

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Had that metallic odd they pull that
off. Oh, there's a note in

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the back from you can see I'm
gonna read it out loud, but there's

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a note in the back. Oh
my god, this just fell out.

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What I would I mean, I'd
give you fucking send in order to order.

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Oh they're po Box and Stanford sent
in an order right now. Like

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remember that you would like clip it
out of the magazine. Yep. Dear

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WW fans, our new Fall Winter
catalog offers you the latest collection of WW

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merchandise. Find great gift giving ideas
for the holidays or any occasion. See

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our order form for details on gift
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mystery gift. Sincerely, Shirley Adams, Vice President of Merchandising. Oh wow,

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surely making it happen the tower.
Oh fuck, this is how you

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open up a catalog. He's lapsed
fan wrestling podcast with Jack and and JPO.

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He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast.
Jesus fuck me. There's the Warrior

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jacket, that nineties jacket, the
Bomber jacket, the Hogan Hogan, the

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plain old Hulk rules like, but
that's that's the one I wanted forever.

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These were the flipped through wide eyed
as kids. It's just the aesthetic.

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It's just one of a kind.
It's golden. It's the WrestleMania the DCR

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video game. Oh I've never heard
of that before. Oh yeah, it's

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got Andre Bear hugging Hogan on the
cover. It's like a board game with

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a tape that comes with it.
Right, I've never seen it in person,

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but I have heard of that.
Because you're Hulkamania Teddy Bear t shirt.

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If you're ready to get fucking is
that Stephanie? No, No,

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Stephanie, and this one the arro
when she would have been posing for the

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catalog. Yeah, maybe we'll see
her as we go along. Look at

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these fucking shirts. Oh, I'll
take a demolition one. Are those the

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ringer teas? Oh? Those are
so perfect that that page where it was

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like twelve wrestlers on one, you
know, even from Hercules to Hogan.

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You know, it's like they they
made merch for wrestlers. You has his

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own fucking shirt, like anyone bought
that? Exactly? I made a Hercules

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T shirt. Honestly, show me
one soul who bought one of those posters.

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Oh man, those posters used to
fucking drive me wild. I think

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I had that Hogan one. Yeah, I just had a flashback. I

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used to love those huge ass posters
yep of athletes as well. And if

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we want, you can get your
brutus the barber beefcake towel, I'll pass.

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You get the bread Heart silver shades
as well that it was. You

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know, place your order today and
send it in with your paid envelope.

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That's great. Ship. Let's be
right where I need to be. How

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many hours did I spend pouring over
that stuff like exactly, and like dreaming

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of stuff that I could get,
like just wanting shirts or belts or whatever.

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Just all that ship that my mom
kept telling me, no, we've

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talked about the coloring thing they had, right, which one was that they

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sent me? Like panels, like
cardboard panels. Color? Yeah, yeah,

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God, my nurse came in.
That was a sweet day. And

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deed right to the living room carpet. I bet this time to dig in.

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There's something. This is a this
is a has Bro. I can

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feel it in my box and you're
in the bag, in one of the

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bags in your box. Let's see
what we got here. Holy shit,

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what it comes. That looks incredible. It looks really good. That is

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a rip. The O holds barred
Hulk Hogan has Broye Custom Custom has Bro.

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Which body does he have? The
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I love this my favorite figure body, the hul Complex one, but

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with the original head with a gorilla
press Hogan. Yeah yeah, well no,

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no, no, no no.
This was the first time because because

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the first two Hogans had the just
a bandana, the headband, yeah,

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the headband, rather than then after
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the other Hogans. That looks really
incredible. That's a really good one.

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White boots and the sky blue gear. That's really funny. Looks like he's

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ready to throw a throw a pie
across a diner and knock somebody out with

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it. Something soft here, like
another little bit, these little bags,

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yeah, little Christmas sacks. What
we got here? Sacks Fifth Avenue.

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Oh shit, oh shit, he's
fucking crazy. Oh my god, I

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feel like these are all going to
be lifting them up to the camera,

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right into the frame. Yes,
go ahead. Oh fucking you know,

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I can't. I can't. The
motherfucker when we got together to watch you

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and King of the Jews with the
moat tier, Yeah, he hands me

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a book I've never even heard of. That's a complete history of Lenna McMahon's

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senatorial campaign against Chris Murphy. Who
the fuck knew that was even written,

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let alone who people would be interested? Right? And then he presents this

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holiday season tom attt Nacio a Linda
McMahon campaign button. That's right, a

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pin that you would have worn to
one of her rallies, her rallies to

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show support. And she ran for
Senate in twenty ten out of Connecticut.

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That is I could even conceive of
wanting. It's crazy, I know.

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That's that's that's the spirit of Christmas. The gift you didn't know you wanted?

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What is? Oh my god,
there's more. Oh h we just

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began. There's at least six,
maybe four more? Wow? What the

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fuck is? I don't even know? Well, I guess this is what's

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going on here. I don't even
know how to begin with this, but

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we're gonna find out. I guess. So number one okay, what?

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Oh my god? That's the Royal
Rumble game for the superintend Nintendo and the

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last game to feature Hulk Cogan.
We got and then he gave, no,

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this one doesn't feature Hulk Hogan.
Then the Superintendent one didn't feature it

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is the Genesis one that featured it. Think you got that backwards? What

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game you sure he wasn't, Ye, because I bought the Genesis just to

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find a whole one. Yeah.
I shouldn't have question you that one.

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Was that a super Nintendo remote?
Yeah, it's like a wireless game pad.

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I feel like I feel like somehow
tell me it's in there. Here

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he goes, Here, he goes
again, son of a bitch. For

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those who listened to last year's Christmas
show, Tom's is saying that literally threw

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in a garbage bag of nineteen nineties
television at N sixty four and no mercy

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and controllers. It's another it's another
Super Nintendo controller. Well, you know,

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I mean, who am I gonna
play with this holiday season? The

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w wf Ron and I must have
talked about that. I used to that.

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I never got the I never got
the sixteen bit systems, really,

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but I wanted to play Monday Night
Ross so badly that I literally rented a

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Super Nintendo. Oh yeah, I
love that. That raw game is so

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good, so good, so good. So think of the stakes. Not

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only was it like, you know, do they have the game, it's

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do they have the system as well? Oh my god, he's fucking crazy.

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He's fucking crazy. Yeah. Another, there's a superintendent in here because

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he gave there's a there's a fucking
there's an extension chord, but a plug.

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What you know about it? Bitch, huh what you fucking know about

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it? You don't know anything about
it. Bost Man's jaws on the floor.

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Oh we're in trouble, man,
what's next? We are in it?

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How many more fucking journeys do we
have to do until we've covered all

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the territories? I guess it's a
VHS Is that what it was? Or

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no, it's a I think it's
like a DVD set and we would says

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Memphis Wrestling nineteen eighty two season surviving
Moments coming off that fucking lapsed Funk the

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Funk Lawla episode. Is that not
right in the heart of that Memphis fucking

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gold that we look at. I
don't know if you're ready for this either.

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This is fascinating. Okay. He's
a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack

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and Carno and JP Sorrow. It's
the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast. Another book

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he managed to find that I've never
heard of, which is saying something.

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Anybody who listens to the show knows
that it's entitled Shooting or Working the History

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of the American Heavyweight Wrestling Championship.
It looks like the most self published volume

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I've ever seen in my life.
Who wrote that? Ken Zimmerman Jr.

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Oh, I know Ken Zimmerman.
He's the author of nineteen non fiction books,

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including gotch Versus Hackenschmidt right in like
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thirties and twenties in the towns and
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one, Edwin Bibbie defeated Duncan c
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history of the American title is not
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the big title matches and champions to
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You know what I'm doing, I'm
catching feelings this Christmas prime things to Tom

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Attinasio regaling us with just and there's
a holiday feast of gifted. Just what

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it is? It's absurd. There's
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there's finger foods and or dirves and
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What is that? It's a figure
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No, it's not. It's a
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the uh year, did you?
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jacket, like you know, women
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the ring, carry on, Eric
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is a thank you? That is
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The world class? The world class? Yeah? Yeah, when they when

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they created their own world title.
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Yeah, I do remember the vern
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What is in here? You imagine
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like August thanks to us? In
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Well, I'll tell you what.
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house this holiday season, only one
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that the Luji? Oh, of
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with, mister Fuji will very much
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one. Here's here's the problem.
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the Vince Yes, oh yes of
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Here's the problem right here, this, this is the last one.

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This is why they get there.
It's why you shouldn't get their own episode

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because they're so fucking long. I
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recreating the most memorable Christmas gift I
ever got, which was a big ass

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box the size of like a television
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year. I know, yeah,
filled with newspaper, and as I threw

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the paper away, it was like
ten Hasbros. One effort after the other

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after the other, and it really
it set the course. It's set the

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conditions for a lifelong wrestling fandom because
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to get further into pro wrestling.
I had all the toys. Yep,

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when you have the whole I mean
you didn't have the whole line, but

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when when you make that much of
a quantum leap leap collection, you're almost

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obliged. I know what this is, Yeah, this is it. This

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is he got a fucking I don't
I don't know why this is all tied

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up, but like this, but
feel free to use the scissors. I

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can't even find them. Someone should. I know you're surrounded right now by

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fucking my claustrophobia is at an all
time The solar system turns us into fucking

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hoarders every Christmas. And it's not
that we keep stuff, it's by the

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time we're done unwrapping, it looks
like a holder's house. Come on,

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motherfucker again. What we don't ask
for this? We never, ever,

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ever once said, give us like
three times more gifts than we can handle.

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One from every member of the Solar
system who cares to contribute would be

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more than enough. Of course,
Tomas I was like, fuck that.

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He fills the gun and unloads the
fucking clip on us. Come on,

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this is the fucking worst. That's
one part of the Christmas show. You

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don't account for the logistics. I
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Christmas that one at one relative who
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working on it here, carrying it
some string, is right. That's what's

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even more like aggravating. It's like, yeah, let's get the reveal over

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with. I already know what's waiting
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go. This is a good wait. I can come through here. Why

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won't you go through? Mm hmm, Oh my god, this is so

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annoying. The hardest fucking ribbon still
working on it, folks. Fucking christ

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Almighty and boss Man's no weakling,
but he has taken some mighty tugs of

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this thing and he's not even close. I'm just gonna this is that book

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while he does this? Yeah right, I love that it's called shooting or

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working. That's fucking tremendous. Let
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Almost there, like that scene is
in Return of the Jedi or they

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like fucking almost get the door open, and it's like I got it,

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I got it. Nope, I
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How is this thing? Tis came
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out there have any suggestions on how
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wrestling history into something castable. There's
no footage. I guess we can just

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talk and read and read the book. Gotta be news stories about it,

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oh for sure. Yeah, that's
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about pre fifty stuff, and like
late eighteen hundred stuff. The newspaper for

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coverages everywhere because there was no other
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A spread word about who was winning, who was wrestling, who was talking

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ship Now we got it heard that
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it contains, Yeah, the next
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This is yep, yep, see
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We're gonna end up with a Sega
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because there's a plug here or a
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neo? There's more? Oh,
come on, that's how come putting stuff

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away? I really love those green
flannel Christmas bags. They're great. So

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that's all you needed to send top, God's sake, send some, send

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some handsome wrapping h and here we
go. This is more untel more magazine

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edge grass here. But it was
on the bottom. So I wonder why,

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Yeah, maybe you strategic? Why
and why was that just more number

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one? Number one? Oh my
god? What does that say? Oh

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god, I can't with this whole
category of like Trump and wrestling, Like,

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oh my god, the Vince book
that came out, The Ring Master

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Wadley, you talk about shoehorning Trump
into it so that you can, like,

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you know, pretend you're writing a
book that appeals to more than wrestling

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fans. And what's the title?
Read that title? Please? M rhetoric

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Politics and Society presents Hell of the
sorry, Donald Trump and the Cafe Presidency

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Profession Wrestling Rhetoric in the White House
by Shannon Bow O'Brien. Okay, that's

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great. Shout out to the homie
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name, because he wrote a book
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So it's okay, what is is
it? Oh my god, it's

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a game pro magazine from the Attitude
era. With that with you're talking about

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Attitude Review exclusive the Fighters Edge Strategy
for the top WWE superstars. Wow,

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get all of your little game Pro
since Clinton was in office because they probably

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don't have him. That's phenomenal.
That's crazy. So that's it. That's

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that's your bag. And it's like
talk about knowing me. Yeah, anybody

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in my life would have been as
bull's eye as Tom Machinasio just was.

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You might have had better Christmas?
What's that you might have had better Christmases?

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Well, there's simply nothing I can
say that will rise to the occasion.

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So another deep and abiding thank you
to a listener that just take our

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word for folks, like it's like
you fell from heaven. If you if

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you have one of him, you
only need one fan. That's what I

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was going to say, exactly.
You took the words out of my mouth,

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like, as long as Tom Atanacio
is breathing, it'll be worth doing

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a lapsed fan, even if he
is the Oh, I swear to God

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the only person listening to So thank
you, Tom, We'll see you next

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