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you are podcasting to get new clients, then the number of downloads that your

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show gets doesn't matter as much as
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from the show. So you need
to define that success and you need to

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define what those success metrics are for
you so that you can track the metrics

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that actually matter, rather than the
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vanity metrics like download numbers. Welcome
to Imperfect Action. I'm Steph Taylor.

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For years, I read all the
books, downloaded all the freebies, and

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did all the courses, but it
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my business had its first million dollar
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before you're ready, prioritizing consistent action
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or at the link in the show
notes. Hey, welcome back to Imperfect

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Action. This is episode six hundred
and ninety seven. Today I'm talking to

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any wannabe podcasters out there. If
you are thinking of starting a podcast,

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Today's episode is for you. I've
been doing this whole podcasting thing for a

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little while now, coming up on
five and a half years, and I

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also accidentally helped to launch hundreds of
new shows when I created my A to

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Z podcast launch plan. Now I've
watched all of these other new podcasters come

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out, I've been through all of
the ups and the downs of podcasting,

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and I've realized there are a couple
of key things that you need to know

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before you jump in and start your
own podcast. I've come up with nine

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key things. There might be a
few more than that, but there's nine

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that I think are really the most
important key things to think about and to

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know before you just buy a microphone
and hit the record button. Okay.

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Number one, the first thing you
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is no, there aren't already too
many podcasts out there. This is something

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that people have been saying for the
last like four years, five years,

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and yet that number of podcasts has
still kept on growing and there have still

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been so many new shows that have
been incredibly successful. Now, depending on

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where you look and who you ask, there is anywhere between two million and

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over four million podcasts out there now, not episodes shows, right, not

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individual swords from each podcast, but
actual podcasts between two million and over four

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million. But here's the thing is, most of those shows have not released

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more than ten episodes. Most of
them fizzle out in the first couple of

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episodes. I don't have the exact
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at podcast Movement in Denver and Rob
Walsh was talking about Rob Walsh works for

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Libson, which is one of the
big podcast hosts, and he was talking

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about how in reality, you're not
competing against four million other shows. You're

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competing against like three hundred thousand because
those are the only ones that are actually

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active. Now, don't quote me
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what number he said, but it
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thing, though, You're not going
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podcast. It's not like, oh, I've started a podcast, and now

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because I have a podcast, people
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you need to still be asking should
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Is this topic that I'm going to
talk about? Should this be a podcast?

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And I'll get to that in a
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the second thing you need to know
before you start a podcast is you don't

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need to have figured out every single
topic that you are going to talk about

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before you start your shot. It's
really easy to think like, oh,

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how am I gonna keep new ideas
coming up? How am I gonna come

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up with more ideas beyond the first
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here's the thing. Your show and
your content and your topics are going to

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evolve organically over time, just like
how this show has. What I spoke

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about in the first one hundred episodes
is so completely different to what I talk

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about right now at nearly seven hundred
episodes. Okay, I used to talk

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about Instagram and social media tips and
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I talk on a much deeper level
about business strategy mindset. Because I have

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evolved, I've learned a lot.
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new ideas. I come up with
new ideas for episodes. I have more

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knowledge that I can teach, So
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that you can possibly talk about in
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You will have new ideas that pop
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every single one figured out. Okay. Number three, now, this one

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relates to what I talked about earlier. Right should this be a podcast?

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So number three, you do need
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listen to your show instead of somebody
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free to listen to, but you
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they have a finite amount of time
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to listen to your show on their
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choose to listen to somebody else's So
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a huge mistake that I see happening
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articulate exactly who your show is for
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yours. And another big mistake is
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they'll be like, oh, I've
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this other show, and I really
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guests, and they've grown to be
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format and I bring on some similar
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as well. But if you are
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somebody chose to tune into yours when
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are already familiar with, with the
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so make sure you know exactly what
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don't start a podcast just for the
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to have a really clear idea of
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for, and why they should listen. Otherwise you're not going to stick with

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it. If you don't know why
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back to that, why you're not
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just like every other fun, shiny
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stage, it's gonna get boring.
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your to do list, And if
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the first place, then you're not
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can't articulate who it's for, then
the right people aren't going to know if

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it's for them, and they're not
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articulate why they should listen, then
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else's show instead of yours with that
limited amount of time that they have.

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Okay, Number four, you probably
won't see massive growth really quickly, and

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that is very very normal. You
need to be willing to commit to it

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for three to six months without seeing
much traction, just like anything new in

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your business, it's going to be
at least three months minimum investment before you

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start to see some kind of traction
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what success means to you. Okay, you need to define what your success

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metrics are because, for example,
if you are podcasting to get new clients,

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then the number of downloads that your
show gets doesn't matter as much as

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a number of client inquiries that you
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that success, and you need to
define what those success metrics are for you

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so that you can track the metrics
that actually matter rather than the ones that

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you think should matter. The vanity
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can see, am I getting a
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return on my time that I'm putting
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if you only have one hundred downloads
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who cares that your download numbers are
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high. And that's the number that
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need to know what that is.
And I can't tell you what those success

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metrics are going to be. It's
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going to be unique to your business
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in the first place. Number five, you need to make it as easy

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as possible for yourself, otherwise it's
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Now I see a lot of people
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like, cool, this is going
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to do the video. It's going
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slice it up. It's going to
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go to YouTube, shorts, TikTok
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this huge mammoth process that's really difficult
and really time consuming. So rather than

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trying to do video from day one, if that's really difficult for you and

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you don't have a team to support
you like I do, then maybe just

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keep it simple and start with audio
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and then you can add a little
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a little bit more, you can
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trying to do everything from day one. It also keeping it easy also means

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repurposing. So can you turn each
podcast episode into a blog post? Or

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can you take little snippets from your
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You need to make it really easy
to come up with content ideas,

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So maybe you need to sit down
once a month and brainstorm all of those

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topics. Maybe you sit down once
a month and you record all of those

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episodes for the months. Whatever works
for you to make it easy for you

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to be consistent, That is going
to be the right way to do it,

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rather than looking at what everyone else
is doing. And if somebody's telling

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you to batch, but your brain
just does not work in batches, like

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I kind of struggle with batching.
The only time I will do it is

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if I'm going away, if I'm
going to be offline for a while,

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or if I'm traveling for a while, then I will batch record a bunch

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of episodes before I go. But
otherwise I actually find it really challenging to

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sit down and record more than one
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two episodes in one go. So
you need to find what works for you.

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Otherwise, if you are consistently having
to work against yourself, you're going

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to find it really hard to be
consistent with your content. Okay, number

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six. The novelty will wear off, and that is not a sign that

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you should stop doing it. If
you're feeling a little bit bored, if

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you're not enjoying it as much as
you were at the start, that's not

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a sign that you need to stop
doing it. Just like anything, it

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is going to be fun. It's
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after a while it is going to
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your to do list. There are
going to be times when you are like,

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oh, I really just don't feel
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times when I absolutely love it and
I have so much to say, and

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I have more than enough ideas for
new episodes, and then I have times

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when I'm in a bit of a
creative rut and I just have no inspiration,

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no ideas, and I just don't
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It's okay, there's gonna be those
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But when you commit to it,
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committed to showing up three times a
week with these episodes, so I force

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myself to do it even when I
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that those times when I'm not feeling
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It's not a sign that I need
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sign that I should skip some episodes. It's just a normal creative energy thing.

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You can't always feel inspired, you
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you're gonna have those days where you
feel great, and you're gonna have all

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weeks or months we feel so inspired
and so great and so creative, and

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then you're going to have days,
weeks or months where you don't want to

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do it, and you've got to
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Number seven, Your microphone doesn't matter
as much as you think it does.

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And that goes for any of your
equipment, your mixer, any of the

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bits and pieces. I have a
really great microphone now, but for like

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the first hundred or so episodes,
I used a really cheap, terrible microphone.

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And it was only when I was
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twenty nineteen and I won a spot
prize. I won my wonderful roadcast to

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pro and rode pod mic simply by
being it seated in the audience at the

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right session and answering a question that
somebody asked. I won this microphone that

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is a pretty expensive microphone and mixer, But until then I was just using

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a really cheap microphone. Because the
content of your show matters so much more.

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I think, yes, once you
get to a certain point and you've

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got a certain number of episodes there
and you're really starting to grow, then

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sure production quality becomes a bit more
important. But I think at the start,

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and I know so many podcasting experts
are going to be like, no,

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staff, you're wrong, But I
think at the start, the content

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matters so much more. And I
proved that with my own show like the

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sound quality was pretty average at the
start, average a terrible. Actually it

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wasn't great. But because the content
I was consistently putting out was consistently good,

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that is how the show started to
grow. So don't go and buy

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the best microphone until you know that
you actually enjoy podcasting and that it's something

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you are going to stick with in
the long term. Okay, try just

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getting started. Try putting content out
there, try and figure out what works,

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what you like, what you don't
like, and then once you know

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this is something you want to do
longer term, then go and invest in

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something a little bit more expensive.
Number eight, don't get too caught up

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in the things that can be changed, things like your cover art, your

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show name, your description, all
of those things they can be changed pretty

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easily. Right at the end of
twenty twenty two, we've rebranded this show.

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It used to be called Social Lette. If you scroll back far enough,

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you'll notice that all of the episodes
when I'm introducing them, I'm welcoming

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you back to Social Lette podcast.
But after four years of podcasting, I

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decided, actually, you know what, the name doesn't suit the content of

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this show anymore. I want a
new name. I want a new cover

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art, so we rebranded it and
it was actually relatively pretty easy. So

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don't get too hung up on the
things that can be changed, Like as

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James Clear, I think it's James
Clear who said this. If a decision

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can be reversed, make it quickly. If a decision can't be reversed,

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make it slowly. Most of the
decisions that you're going to be making when

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it comes to starting a podcast can
be reversed really easily. I actually can't

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think of any that can't be first, So don't get too caught up in

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all of those things. Don't let
them stop you from getting your show out

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there, because the thing that's gonna
help you to succeed with it faster is

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getting content out there, seeing what
lands, seeing what sticks, seeing what

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you enjoy, and then tweaking based
on your feedback that you get from that.

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Okay, and then number nine lucky
last, It's probably going to feel

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a little uncomfortable, and that is
really normal. When I first started out,

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I wasn't a confident speaker. I
hated my voice. I didn't think

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there was any way I could be
a successful podcaster. But I just did

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it and Podcasting taught me to like
my voice. It taught me to become

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more confident speaking. It has taken
seven hundred episodes of practice to get to

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this particular episode. And I know, when you're starting out with something,

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it's really easy, really tempting to
compare your episode one to somebody else's episode

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one hundred or five hundred or one, and forgetting that you are a beginner

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and they have been doing this for
a long time, and it takes practice.

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It takes those repetitions to build that
mastery. And the sooner that you

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start, the sooner you can get
practicing, the sooner you can start to

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put those reps in, and it's
going to have that great ripple effect onto

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your confidence, onto your speaking,
onto your business. It's going to make

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you feel a lot more comfortable showing
up because now you feel a little bit

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more comfortable expressing yourself and articulating yourself. So there you have it. Nine

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things that you need to know before
you start a podcast. Number one,

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there aren't already too many shows out
there. Number two, you don't have

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to have figured out every single topic
that you are going to talk about before

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you start your show. Number Three, you do need to be able to

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articulate why someone should listen to your
show instead of somebody else's. Number four,

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you probably won't see massive growth really
quickly, and that is normal.

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Number five. You need to make
it as easy as possible for yourself,

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otherwise it's going to be really hard
to stay consistent. Number six. The

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novelty will wear off, and that
is not a sign that you should stop

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doing it. Number seven, your
microphone doesn't matter as much as you think

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it does. Number eight, don't
get too caught up in things like the

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cover art, the name, or
the description, any of those things that

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can be changed really easily. And
then number nine, it's going to feel

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uncomfortable, and that is normal.
Now, if you have learned anything from

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this show so far, whether it's
this episode or previous episode, I really

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would appreciate it if you could take
thirty seconds to leave a quick rating and

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a review. I've read all of
them. They get delivered to my inbox

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every Tuesday morning, and I read
them and they bring a smile to my

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face. So if you haven't left
one yet, please do. It reminds

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me that there are actual humans listening
to the show, and it's not just

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me talking into a microphone. Believe
me, when you start your podcast you'll

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understand just how important ratings and reviews
are, so please do take the time

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to do that. That is it
for today's episode. Thank you so much

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for listening. Catch you next time.
