WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:26.760 Second hour of the program, Welcome Meyer Hotline eighty six, six, eighty 2 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:32.439 three, eight forty eight forty three textas Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. 3 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:41.719 Justin Jefferson is now the highest paid non quarterback in the National Football League. 4 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:50.320 He signs a four year, one hundred and forty million dollar extension. That 5 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:59.200 means that Justin Jefferson, the average annual value of his contract exceeds i'm on 6 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:07.879 Ross Saint Brown and AJ Brown. Jefferson the average annual salary will make thirty 7 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:12.200 five million. AJ Brown of the Eagles thirty two million, I'm on Ross 8 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:17.840 Saint Brown of the Lions thirty million, along with Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, 9 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:22.120 then DeVante Adams, Cooper Cup, Davonte Smith, Nico Collins, DK 10 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:29.719 Metcalf, No need to go really pass the top ten. Who does that 11 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:38.599 benefit besides Justin Jefferson. It benefits Ceedee Lamb and Jamar Chase right, because 12 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.640 those guys are going to make a case or their agents are going to make 13 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:48.400 a case to be the highest paid at their position. And I get it, 14 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.280 I do. I mean it's with the market. What does the market 15 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:57.439 bear? All right? Kent? What do you think your guy is worth. 16 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:07.360 Go get it if you can. What's amazing to me it's always to 17 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:10.960 look It's always easy to look back, isn't it. Honestly, it's easy 18 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.319 to sit there and go, well, this is what you should have done 19 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:19.599 in this type of situation when you're not faced with it at the time. 20 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:24.639 But there are certain things you look back on and you say, there's really 21 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:31.240 no excuse for it. The good example of that, I think is the 22 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:45.879 twenty twenty draft in which Justin Jefferson was chosen twenty second overall. That's the 23 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:53.479 year Jeff Okuda was taken third overall. So you could shake your head like 24 00:02:53.520 --> 00:03:01.159 I do, as vigorously as you want. But what you also have to 25 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:08.280 understand is that in that draft, while he was being chosen twenty second, 26 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:19.280 there were four wide receivers taken above him. In other words, the Lions 27 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:25.280 screwed up. You and I both know that. Under Bob Quinn it's not 28 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:31.800 surprising. Under Matt Millen, it wouldn't be surprising. Chuck Schmidt wouldn't be 29 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:43.520 surprising. Russ Thomas would not surprise us. For as much mud and dirt 30 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:49.360 and crap that the Lions have had for decades after decades. Brad Holmes is 31 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:55.000 turning that around. Thankfully. He doesn't make this mistake. Not that you 32 00:03:55.000 --> 00:04:01.400 would have chosen Justin Jefferson because oh where is it? What did they draft? 33 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:09.120 They drafted for need? I think the bigger mistake is not with the 34 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:17.319 Lions, even though it's a major issue. The bigger mistake is made by 35 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:31.240 the Raiders, by the Broncos, by the Cowboys, and by the Eagles. 36 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:46.160 They wanted receivers, they ranked their receivers, and they ranked them inappropriately. 37 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:57.160 Although Dallas has got an argument, the Raiders chose Henry Ruggs third twelfth 38 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:02.959 overall, we know his choose right, Okay, so he's no longer in 39 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:14.800 the league. Denver chose Jerry Judy, he's been traded. Dallas chose Seed 40 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:21.000 Lamb and he's really good. Is he as good as Justin Jefferson? Okay, 41 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:31.560 make the debate. They're both pretty damn good. I'd take either one. 42 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:43.560 Philadelphia chose Jalen Rieger, who, by the way, later played for 43 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:53.720 Minnesota and then last year New England. So in Philadelphia he played twenty eight 44 00:05:53.759 --> 00:06:03.279 games, that's it, and had sixty four catches. Philadelphia viewed as a 45 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:11.439 and rightfully, so pretty well run an organization, and yet look what happened. 46 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:16.800 They made a mistake on a first round pick, on a top twenty 47 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:21.920 one pick. They took a guy who had sixty four rocks in his two 48 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:33.160 years in Philadelphia. Justin Jefferson had eighty eight his rookie year. That's how 49 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:40.040 good Jefferson was, and two years ago led the league in receptions, led 50 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:44.879 the league in yards, led the league in yards per game. I'm not 51 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.839 justifying thirty five million dollars a year. What I'm saying is you've got plenty 52 00:06:48.839 --> 00:07:00.120 of good teams who we viewed to be reputable, run properly and winners who 53 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:06.920 make mistakes can't make them as frequently as the Lions, or you don't want 54 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:14.199 them to be viewed as a frequent misstep like some of the other teams in 55 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:18.720 this market, some of the other teams in the state. But they do 56 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:27.920 make them. Could you not make the case that the sixth wide receiver in 57 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:34.160 that draft, Brandon Ayuk, is better than all but two of the receivers 58 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:44.680 taken ahead of him. Jordan Love was taken after Brandon Ayuk. Patrick Queen 59 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:54.120 pretty good player for Baltimore when he was drafted. Hell T. Higgins has 60 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:57.560 had a decent career and he was the first pick in the second round. 61 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:05.279 Phone number on the Meyer hotline is eight sixty six eight three, eight forty 62 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.560 eight forty three. You can text sports radio to twenty one thousand if you 63 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:16.480 want to get involved in the conversation. So that happens every once in a 64 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:22.759 while, it happens. I don't like the headline from SI that it's something 65 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.040 that the Lions would have done when they had that headline back at the end 66 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:33.600 of May, before Jefferson signs the contract, I'll be waiting and looking forward 67 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:43.559 to reading why that writer was wrong, since this apparently was ten months in 68 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:52.639 the making to get Jefferson's contract done. Didn't expect that, I guess. 69 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:03.559 Speaking of football, NFC rookies picked after the NFL Draft Day one, who 70 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:13.240 could earn key roles? Who would that be for the Lions. CBA Sports 71 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:22.000 broke down every team in the NFC, which guy is going to come in 72 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:28.440 and be an impact player for their team if they were taken after the first 73 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:35.559 round. For example, Washington Mike Sandras still out of Michigan number fifty second 74 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.360 round. He's the guy who's going to make an impact for Washington. Who 75 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.120 will that be for the Lions. It's ten after the hour. We'll get 76 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:48.080 to that when we come back on Exus and Bros. Across the great state 77 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.320 of Michigan. After this, there's a new player in town. 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I suppose 95 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.360 that's easy to do for a lot of leagues, but there's always it seems 96 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:03.960 like, I should say, it seems like there's just a ton to discuss 97 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.200 when it comes to the National Football League that Justin Jefferson is the latest. 98 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:13.120 We talked about the passing, unfortunately of Larry Allen and what a great player 99 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:20.320 he was and how that position is really underrated. Well, if you look 100 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:26.960 and you're kind of do some homework, not homework, but if you're interested 101 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:33.679 in some good reading sports reading on websites, a lot of them have different 102 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:43.919 NFL articles to kind of peruse and then maybe to discuss with friends. Most 103 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.440 of the time, when I'm looking at a lot of these websites, and 104 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.639 I'm reading a lot of these articles. I try to put myself not as 105 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:58.600 a talk show host, but in the shoes of you a fan and on 106 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.399 a Friday or Saturday night and you're kind of hanging out with some buddies or 107 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.840 you and your wife go to a you know, a gathering. What is 108 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:13.639 the topic of discussion going to be? And then I like, I like 109 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:18.200 to get your thoughts on that. So there's a couple of articles that caught 110 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:26.600 my eye Sleeper NFC Rookies who could Shine? Chris Tarapo Uh teapso Uh had 111 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.360 an article on that. But the one that I want to talk about is 112 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:43.919 written by Trepasso on CBS and he goes through every team and which team or 113 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:50.360 which pick after the first round has the chance to make the biggest impact. 114 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.679 And I mentioned Mike Sanders still for Washington. Who do you think it would 115 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:05.039 be for the Lions? I remember this, The Lions had six picks in 116 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:11.320 this past twenty twenty four draft. You're not taking Tirian Arnold because he's the 117 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:18.960 first rounder. You and your buddies are sitting there talking. Are you talking 118 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:26.480 about Ennis Reichstraw, who is the second pick? Sixty first overall, right, 119 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:43.559 Giovanni Manu the fourth round choice, Ciomvaki another fourth round pick, Mecky 120 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:58.000 Wingo a sixth round pick, or Christian Mahogany another six round choice. Well, 121 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:07.879 CBS chose the guy that I would have picked, and the reason I 122 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:16.480 would pick him is because of development, purposes, need and attitude slash scouting 123 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:28.320 report. Overall, The Lions moved up in Day three to get what many 124 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:35.919 consider one of the bigger steals of the draft. I don't know, honestly, 125 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.120 and I don't think anybody does. They traded with the Texans. They 126 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:46.679 gave up their seventh round pick to move up to one point eighty nine in 127 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:56.799 the sixth round. And what did they do. They drafted a defensive lineman, 128 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:07.759 Mackay Wingo. Is it a need? Absolutely? Will it payoff this 129 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:15.519 year? I doubt? But according to most Dame Brugler does a really good 130 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.879 job on his draft guide. He's of CBS Sports. If you go back 131 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:26.679 and you look at what Dame Brugler has written, he gets really deep into 132 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:34.240 the various nuances of the draft class, feeling like he can explain it in 133 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.480 terms that you and I would would appreciate. And understand a little bit more. 134 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:45.480 This is what he wrote about Wingo. He wrote his coaches rave about 135 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:52.360 his work and practice happens his work ethic earned him the twenty twenty two Iron 136 00:16:52.519 --> 00:17:00.399 Tiger Award LSU. Instead of packing it in and preparing for the NFL Draft, 137 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:07.359 he rehabbed his tail off to return to LSU's bowl game. Now he's 138 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:12.279 not huge, He's not I love this one, blocking out the Sun. 139 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:19.759 I remember when the Lions chose Stocker McDougall, an offensive tackle out of Oklahoma, 140 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:25.640 a mammoth of a man block out the sun. Aaron Gibson out of 141 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:33.119 Wisconsin blocked out the sun. Neither one worked out. You have to be 142 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:45.559 more than just big. But I would also suggest that you remember that there's 143 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.720 a lot of really good players who kind of break the mold. They may 144 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:53.519 not be the biggest, but they were the best. Aaron Donald is a 145 00:17:53.559 --> 00:18:00.799 really good example. Now I'm please, I am not comparing Aaron Donald, 146 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:07.599 one of the greatest defensive linemen of all time, to Mecha bing Wingo. 147 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:17.720 All I'm talking about is that Aaron Donald was viewed as an undersized Is it 148 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:26.000 fair to say an undersized defensive lineman and yes, the Lions had a chance 149 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:33.279 to take him to and they did not, as we all know, unfortunately. 150 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:41.799 But this is a guy who I'm not going to tell you he could 151 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:47.680 be like this, like Aaron Donald. It would be great if he was. 152 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:55.559 But if he's got that motor, if he's got that work ethic, 153 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.240 if he's got that chip on his shoulder, he can be much more effective 154 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:07.480 than he would be as a six round pick. Thus the steal right. 155 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:15.960 He's six feet about two hundred and eighty five pounds. He's going to learn 156 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:26.319 from DJ Reader, He's gonna he's gonna learn from Alee McNeil. Most analysts. 157 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:34.519 Draft analysts had him for a grade that would be two rounds higher than 158 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:40.720 where the Lions got him. So that's pretty cool, that's fantastic. I 159 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:42.880 mean that that's what you want. You want to be able to get value 160 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.519 later on in a draft, and the Lions were able to do that. 161 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:55.240 So that would be the choice. That's the CBS choice. Maybe you've got 162 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:59.680 one different. Love to hear it on the Meyer Hotline eight sixty six eight 163 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:03.400 three forty eight forty three. 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What athlete has ever 195 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:26.599 changed your mind about them? How much do you keep an open mind when 196 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.680 it comes to sports? Because sports is really emotional, right. We all 197 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:37.920 get caught up in moments. Everybody does. Fans, players, coaches, 198 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:45.400 media, We all get caught up in it. Anybody who says they don't 199 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:56.400 is lying. It's okay, it's what's beautiful. But there are certain people 200 00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:00.240 you say to yourself at the time, I can't stand that guy that comes 201 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.200 one of yours. Chris Chellils is a really good example, right, I 202 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.759 mean, have you when Chris Chilli has played for the black Hawks, how 203 00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:10.599 many of you liked him? Come on, no way, I hated him? 204 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:14.359 Yeah you hated him. Yeah he became a red wing. You loved 205 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:18.240 him, didn't you? Yes? Exactly? Oh agree, one hundred percent. 206 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:23.200 You're too young for this, I'm sure, But not that he was 207 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:26.480 a big name. But Bill Lambier when he played for Cleveland, you didn't 208 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:32.400 like him. Rick Mahorn when he played for Washington, you did not like 209 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:37.559 him. Stop it. He became one of yours, you loved him. 210 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:45.240 I get it. There might be some other examples. There are certain guys 211 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.319 you really respect. Dominic Kashik playing for Buffalo Holy Cow winning Vesna after Vesna. 212 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:52.039 Love to see him in a Red Wings uniform. He comes there, 213 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:56.960 wins a cup and you're like, yes, always liked him, fair enough. 214 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:03.839 But there are certain players on certain teams who you could not stand, 215 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.839 could not stomach, but as soon as they became one of yours, you 216 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.480 loved him. I think that's natural. I think it's normal. I think 217 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:17.319 it's what just about every fan base would deal with. But I really like 218 00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:22.640 and respect athletes who can admit. Anybody who can admit you know what I 219 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:29.279 was wrong. Kyrie Irving is that kind of guy. Now we've got a 220 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:33.359 couple of days before Game one of the NBA Finals to me, too long 221 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.039 of a break. But the NBA has to plan for just in case a 222 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.759 seven game series. Why you can't adjust on the fly. For rights holders 223 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.559 who carry the rights to the broadcast on TV. I don't know, man, 224 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:52.079 I don't know what other programming they have planned. But I'm not so 225 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.880 naive to think that it's just easy as snapping your fingers, making a switch 226 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:00.680 and boom you're done. I don't like the Stanley Cup Finals isn't played until 227 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:07.319 Saturday, all right? I think it can affect the product. I mean, 228 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.640 what's it been seven days for Dallas when things tip off. Yes, 229 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:19.400 it'll be nine days for Boston. Do you remember when the Tigers played the 230 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:25.960 Cardinals in the World Series in two thousand and six and they had all that 231 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.079 time off. They didn't come out and play roll? Well, did they? 232 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.880 Now? Both these teams, in fairness, have a lot of time 233 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:38.359 off. We just may not see the best version of themselves in the very 234 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:45.359 first game. But I digress. Kyrie Irving is a primary, along with 235 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:53.559 Luka Donc's, reason why Dallas is where they are. Some have on the 236 00:26:53.599 --> 00:27:02.079 broadcast publicly argued that it's the best scoring tandem in NBA history. I'm not 237 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:07.000 going to overreact, Reggie Miller said it. Stam Van Gundy said, I'm 238 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.720 not going to overreact and say that's true. But they're pretty damn dynamic. 239 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:18.799 They are really fun to watch. They are almost impossible to guard. So 240 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:26.799 I am greatly looking forward to seeing how Boston tries to handle that. But 241 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:32.319 Kyrie Irving is going back. It's not home. But he did play in 242 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:38.400 Boston for a couple of years. While in Boston, he wasn't afraid to 243 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:44.200 say, this is where I envisioned finishing my career. He wasn't afraid to 244 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:52.279 say I vowed to have my jersey retired and hang from the rafters. I 245 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.279 don't know how people in Boston felt about that. Maybe they lapped it up, 246 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:03.440 maybe they were skeptical, maybe they smile. I don't out. He 247 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:08.759 said he planned on re signing with the Celtics and then months later said I 248 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.839 got to do its best for me. Ends up signing with the Brooklyn Nets 249 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:17.160 in twenty nineteen. Now he goes back to Boston and they are going to 250 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:26.359 boo him lustlessly. But Irving did say this after a practice recently. I 251 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.799 don't mind after a few years taking the brunt of the blame for my time 252 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:36.279 in Boston. I'm one of the best players in the world, so I 253 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:41.319 know what comes with that fair criticism. It's just a little bit more grace 254 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.160 could have been extended my way, especially with what I was dealing with during 255 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.240 the time. As a human being. What was he dealing with. He 256 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:56.720 had lost his grandmother and that greatly affected him. He said, I know 257 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:02.480 sometimes in sports it's literally about the end goal and result in what you accomplish, 258 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:07.920 and that's one thing, but we're all still human. I wasn't my 259 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.319 best self during that time in Boston. When I look back on it, 260 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.599 I just see it as a time where I learned how to get out of 261 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.079 thing or let go of things rather and learn how to talk through my emotions. 262 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:32.160 There were huge expectations when he was traded from Cleveland to Boston. He 263 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:41.680 had just won a championship twenty sixteen with Lebron James and the Cavaliers. He 264 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:48.559 arrives in Boston in twenty seventeen and it didn't go real well. Doesn't mean 265 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:53.920 he was a really good player, because he was, but he didn't handle 266 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.759 things very well, and neither did the organization. I gave him a lot 267 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:04.000 of credit for owning it. Now, some of you may say, that's 268 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.160 just natural, that's what you should do. You're right, you absolutely should. 269 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.680 So does that mean he gets a ton of credit just for doing what 270 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:18.240 you're supposed to do, not necessarily. But how many times in our society 271 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:25.119 today, especially the athletes, are they defensive, unwilling to own it, 272 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.079 unwilling to say, you know what, my bad And I don't mean just 273 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:36.000 on the floor with a bad shot or a bad pass where they just tap 274 00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.319 their heart and say, that's on me. I'm talking about in life in 275 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:49.599 general. Something he did, he recognizes that he wasn't his best self. 276 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.279 Then he said something pretty interesting, he said, moving on to the next 277 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.839 thing and learning how to move and let go of the past. It could 278 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:07.279 cripple you if you allow it to. I have been bombarded with Boston questions 279 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:12.480 since I left, people trying to figure out what actually happened. I think 280 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:17.559 the full story will come out, probably when I'm retired or when it's appropriate. 281 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:19.759 So leaves you hang in a little bit like a good movie, I 282 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:25.799 suppose, looking for a sequel. But overall, what he is basically saying 283 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:30.440 is I learned from that experience. Don't we all learn from experiences? I 284 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.720 hope. So what you have to do better next time, what you should 285 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:41.240 have done the first time, all those things. I'm looking forward to the 286 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.000 NBA Finals. I'm looking forward to the Stanley Cup Finals. I wish it 287 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.119 wouldn't take quite as long, but I'm glad they're closing in all right. 288 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:55.200 Speaking of owning it and dealing with pressure, because that's what he had to 289 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.759 do. He had to deal with some pressure. There's going to be a 290 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:06.599 lot of pressure on one specific person in the Allions organization in twenty twenty four. 291 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.880 There's always pressure. You know that. You deal with it probably at 292 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:16.799 work every single day, so there's always pressure. Dan Campbell's going to feel 293 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:21.839 it. Brad Well, I mean, he got a contract extension. You 294 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.079 still want to win. Brad Holmes will feel it. He got a contract 295 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:30.319 extension, still wants to win. Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator. No 296 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:37.559 one will feel it more. I don't believe than Aaron Glenn, the defensive 297 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:45.559 coordinator for the Lions, who needed help on his side of the ball in 298 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:52.799 an area of pass coverage, got it. He got it with the first 299 00:32:52.200 --> 00:33:00.759 two picks of the draft. It wasn't long ago after the draft. Meant 300 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.039 to get to this a while back, but we just never had the time. 301 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.319 We got caught up in baseball and got caught up in a few other 302 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:12.960 things. But Aaron Glenn was asked shortly thereafter the draft, hey, what 303 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:22.000 do you think about two corners potentially being starters? Added to your bullpin if 304 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:28.559 you will, using a different sport analogy to help you climb over the top. 305 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:34.400 Quote unquote, Glenn says, Look, it's the NFL. It's always 306 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.880 pressure, So that doesn't matter to me. Anytime we get players on this 307 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.240 team, you try to put them in a position to do what they do 308 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:44.799 best. So as a player, as a coordinator, this is the NFL. 309 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:52.119 Each week, there's pressure, agreed, no doubt. Is there extra 310 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:59.119 pressure? How do you determine that? How do you determine what is extra 311 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:06.480 It's pressure, There's no extra pressure. It's pressure. This is it. 312 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:15.440 Though, for Aaron Glenn, who aspires to be a head coach for him 313 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:22.960 and he's had interviews for him to kick that proverbial door down, I believe 314 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:27.440 he has this window, and I think the win. I'm not a big 315 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:31.880 windows guy. I think you can continue to have an open window to challenge 316 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:40.320 for championships if you're front office and coaching is in alignment. It's it's what 317 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:46.039 you really respect about certain organizations. And I don't mean that the ones that 318 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:52.039 go out there and pay like it's easy to respect the Dodgers winning division titles 319 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.800 regularly. They also lead the league in spending as well. There's not many 320 00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.400 teams that can go out there and say, I want to sign Show, 321 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:04.960 Hey, O Tom, I want to update Annie for Mookie Bets and Freddie 322 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.280 Freeman and I'm gonna I'm not worried about losing Will Smith behind the plate all 323 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:15.480 those things. That's not the norm. And please don't take it out of 324 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.480 context. I'm not saying it's easy to win that way. You still have 325 00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.519 to win that way. Just because you have money, just because you spend 326 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:29.239 it doesn't mean that it's the right fit. Otherwise the Dodgers would win every 327 00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:31.920 year. Otherwise the Mets would be winning. Otherwise the Yankees would be winning. 328 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.519 And they are winning, but they're not winning championships. So let's just 329 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:45.400 keep it to what we're talking about here. A lot of the organizations that 330 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:51.719 are in a line have a philosophy and a belief of what should be doing. 331 00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:58.119 What you're supposed to do to be a sustainable championship contender, whether that 332 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:07.280 be in the Division A league either one. Cleveland Guardians are pretty good at 333 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.280 that, and they don't spend a lot of money. Now, granted they 334 00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.599 don't win championships, not league championships, but they're giving themselves a chance to 335 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:21.639 win every single year for the most part. Right, Can we agree with 336 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:25.760 that? So I don't believe in windows for teams all the time. I 337 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.679 think there's a lot of teams that when you can, when you're doing what 338 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.760 you're supposed to do, when you've got a front office like Brad Holmes. 339 00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.519 Let's use Brad Holmes as an example. When you got a guy like that 340 00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:45.800 who knows what the hell he's doing, builds for the current and the future 341 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:53.800 at the same time, which is very doable, trust his scouts, trust 342 00:36:53.880 --> 00:37:00.039 his front office personnel, and has an alignment with his head coach. That 343 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:06.400 there is a wider window than most people would immediately think, Oh, your 344 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.639 windows only we just make it up four or five years. Got to take 345 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:15.519 advantage of it because the window of opportunity is right now. That window can 346 00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:20.239 stay open. People said that about the San Francisco forty nine ers. They 347 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.519 said it at the end of last year, their windows closing, and now 348 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.119 they're the favorite to win the Super Bowl this year. Doesn't mean they will, 349 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:34.039 but they're still pretty damn good. So I'm not a huge believer in 350 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.360 that window. But for Aaron Glenn, who wants to be a head coach, 351 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:46.320 there is a window individually. I don't know if it's immediately after this 352 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:57.079 year, but I do know this, when an organization recognizes what they're lacking 353 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:05.719 and in this case cover corners and then address it as vigorously as they did 354 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:15.519 trading up to get two guys they feel can be contributors right away, one 355 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:23.800 a starter right away, using those draft picks, using these resources, other 356 00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:32.719 high draft picks, Hutchinson, Campbell, whatever, you've better take advantage of 357 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:42.639 it because you've been part of it. So I don't think there's extra pressure, 358 00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.199 and I think there always is pressure for those guys, but it's heightened 359 00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:52.920 a little bit. It is laser focused on Aaron Glenn this year. He 360 00:38:53.159 --> 00:39:12.079 welcomes it, understands it because he had input on this. Our phone number 361 00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.840 on the Meyer hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. 362 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.800 Our text is sports Radio twenty one thousand. That's all you gotta do. 363 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.039 Text Sports Radio to twenty one thousand to jump on board and be part of 364 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:28.079 the conversation. We've gone in a lot of different directions. Just a reminder, 365 00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:32.320 Jim Leland will join us tomorrow eight thirty five to talk about what an 366 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:37.719 honor it is for him to have his jersey retired. And we started this 367 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.920 in the six o'clock hour. We'll dip back into it a little bit when 368 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:46.639 we come back. Some of the other Tigers or other athletes in Michigan, 369 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:52.920 in Detroit, who you think should have their number retired. Here's the other 370 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.519 thing. And I know there's a lot of folks on the west side of 371 00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:02.920 the state who listen to our program. There's something interesting taking place in Chicago. 372 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.719 How many of you are are Chicago fans, I'm not sure, but 373 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:15.760 there is something interesting taking place in Chicago to help the viewing audience of their 374 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:22.199 sports teams. We know the issues that have taken place with the ballet sports 375 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:30.639 department. I could speak firsthand to that and now and there's been others at 376 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:36.199 and t got out of it. 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