WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:05.200 Cherokee Chat is an independent production and is not affiliated or endorsed by Cherokee Nation 2 00:00:05.400 --> 00:00:09.000 or any of its entities, businesses, government, or otherwise. Any views, 3 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.359 opinions, or content express in this program are solely those of the host 4 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:17.239 and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of Cherokee Nation. 5 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:30.199 It says he has boundless love for his all right, good morning, good 6 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:33.359 morning, good morning, and welcome, welcome, welcome, and it is 7 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:37.159 dying to check in with mister Western. How are you there, sir? 8 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:41.320 I am doing great, tom Osier and all you out there listening to Cherokee 9 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:46.520 Chat. Good morning, Osta Una dog Doc Well no he which just means 10 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.840 happy Monday, or for a lot of people, including my wife, it's 11 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:55.280 just Monday. Not anything happy about it really, But anyway, welcome to 12 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:59.679 another edition of Cherokee Chat. This will be the last edition of Cherokee Chat. 13 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.840 Teaser there. I'll have more to say about that here in a minute. 14 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:04.640 Keep his hanging to will you. That's right, And as always, 15 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.480 before we begin, we'd like to thank our sponsor, Cooperative Credit Union located 16 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:12.760 three thirteen West ninth Street and Coffeeville. They're all about providing you with great 17 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:17.680 personal financial services. Recently, I noticed on their Facebook page something that I 18 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:22.319 don't think a lot of people consider. 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Okay So, at the top of the show, I mentioned 34 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:23.599 that this will be the last edition of Cherokee Chat, just to put anyone's 35 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.400 mind at ease, because I know you're all waiting at home with baited breath. 36 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.719 We're not going anywhere. We're simply re branding. Okay So, at 37 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:35.360 the outset of starting this show, we mentioned how we would like for this 38 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:38.280 to be a program that not only talks about Cherokee issues, but other Native 39 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:43.680 issues as well, whether it's Osage, Delaware, anything to do with their 40 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:46.000 culture, language, it's important to them events that we have going on in 41 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.520 the area. We want to be inclusive. We want other tribal leaders and 42 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:54.240 proud members of those tribes to feel like they have a voice here. It's 43 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:59.560 important these races are heard. After discussion with our sponsor, we decided to 44 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:05.639 rename the program Native Beat, and we'll still discuss local issues with local guests 45 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:08.360 and do our best to provide you with information, highlight cultural language history, 46 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:13.280 and talk about events important to our listeners. As always, I'm grateful to 47 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:16.639 everyone who tunes in. I received a tremendous amount of positive feedback from folks 48 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:21.639 in the community and couldn't be more pleased with the response. Now, we'll 49 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.639 say we do have detractors from time to time, as with all that's right, 50 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:29.120 as with anything. Yeah, and they're certainly entitled to their opinion. 51 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:32.080 I typically don't pay any attention to them, or or if they do get 52 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:37.400 my attention, I typically feel sorry for them. I'm just not going to 53 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:40.039 keep what I've decided is I'm just going to keep coming here and doing what 54 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:46.080 I'm doing since we first started and focus on what's important, preserving Native history, 55 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.520 language, culture and providing us all with a platform. I've truly been 56 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:53.039 touched by the support, and honestly, it really keeps you going, just 57 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.439 the support you get from the community. So, now that we have that 58 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.439 out of the way, Yes, something I would like to talk about that 59 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.240 it's an important election that's coming up and everyone at home might be thinking, 60 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:08.039 oh, yeah, the June eighteenth primary is just a few weeks away. 61 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:12.919 Well, not that primary. I'll I'll encourage you want to get up and 62 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.879 vote on primary day for certain or you can vote by absentee valid or by 63 00:04:15.959 --> 00:04:21.160 voting early downtown. But for Natives, voting should be very important because I 64 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:27.079 remember this from yesterday. Yesterday marked the one hundredth anniversary that Natives were actually 65 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.920 allowed to vote in the United States. So that's kind of mind boggling when 66 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:32.959 you think about it. Four years after women were allowed to vote, the 67 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.600 Native Americans were allowed to vote in the US. So I don't think it's 68 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:40.959 kind of interesting. So, but there is another election coming up. Like 69 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.160 I mentioned, it's not the June eighteenth election. This is actually going to 70 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.839 be held on June fifteenth, which is a Saturday. It's probably important we 71 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:53.199 start from the beginning. The Cherokee Tribes democracy is older than the United States 72 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:57.199 democracy. In fact, it's around three hundred years old, and that system 73 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.959 of government has been interrupted at times thanks to removal and controlled by the US 74 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:03.879 government. In fact, Cherokee Nation did us start having the power to elect 75 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:08.360 its own chief again until nineteen seventy five, which was the year I was 76 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:13.800 born, and that's also when we adopted our first constitution. At that time, 77 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:17.639 we adopted our constitution and we made provisions in it that a vote be 78 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:23.160 considered every twenty years as to whether a constitutional convention should be held to make 79 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:29.240 substantial changes to our existing constitution. Our last constitutional convention was held in nineteen 80 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:31.920 ninety nine, and it's really interesting if you go back and look at the 81 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:38.040 old photos of people from that constitutional convention, because you see people who are 82 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:42.399 not yet tribal counselors, you see people who are not yet chiefs, you 83 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.240 know, and it's just very interesting to see those were the framers of the 84 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:49.720 constitution we're currently living under, you know. And so it's really important to 85 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:55.759 keep that in historical perspective because when we consider our framers of our US Constitution, 86 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:59.600 we didn't have us they were, that's right. These people were an 87 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:04.560 abstract to what we know today in Cherokee Nation. So I think it's interesting 88 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:09.319 to point out in fact that Thomas Jefferson proposed this idea of respect to the 89 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:13.959 US Constitution. He was thinking that the country and its people change every generation 90 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.360 or so, and those changes should be reflected in how they are governed. 91 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:20.120 In the Cherokee Nation. This process is designed or to serve as a strong 92 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:25.759 remedy to change our government at a systemic level. Well, we always want 93 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:29.600 to be responsive to the concerns the needs of our citizens. We have remedies 94 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:32.800 in place to allow our government to be petitioned. Our constitution as it stands 95 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:36.959 currently provides our citizens with three paths to amend it. We can do so 96 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:42.199 through the petition process. We can do so through the Tribal Council, which 97 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:46.079 is the legislative body representing the people, and they can place individual amendments on 98 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.800 the ballot for the people to consider. And the third way, which is 99 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:54.879 what we'll be considering June fifteenth, is the constitutional convention. Even if our 100 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:59.040 people vote no on June fifteenth, we still have these other two paths so 101 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.920 we can take to amend our constitutions. So it's not like shutting the door 102 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.959 on any possibility of actually amending or changing our government for to say, the 103 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:11.439 next twenty years. Wow. Yeah. So, But on June fifteenth, 104 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.920 if we decide as a people whether a constitutional convention is warranted, there's only 105 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.040 that question that's going to be on the ballot, yes or no. If 106 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:21.000 the answer is yes, a group of our citizens will be impaneled to visit 107 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:25.120 our various districts and embark on a listening tour to hear the concerns of our 108 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:29.839 citizens. A convention is then called a lottery among our citizens decides who the 109 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:32.720 delegates will be. The issues will be debated, language written, and voted 110 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.959 on by that body and then presented to the Cherokee people for ratification. And 111 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:41.680 the reason we have these remedies in place to change our constitution is so that 112 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:45.720 we can save ourselves the expense of the process and prevent any potential disruptions in 113 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:50.160 our government instead of just going to a full fledged constitutional convention. And you 114 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:54.600 know, some will say, I mean, there's probably naysayreas that say, 115 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:56.800 you know, well, what about McGirt. You know, that had a 116 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:01.600 huge impact on Cherokee Nation that it results and a huge expansion of our criminal 117 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.759 justice system. And you know, our sovereign nation now has to take on 118 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.680 the added responsibility to deciding the fates of people who commit crimes on the Cherokee 119 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.879 Reservation who are Cherokee citizens. And the beauty of that is, you know, 120 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:18.079 our constitution even was written twenty one years before McGirt. Some say the 121 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:22.920 question, some may question whether there's a potential, I don't know problem where 122 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:28.560 there could be government overreach or violation and civil liberties. But thankfully, because 123 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:35.639 of that constitution that was debated and ratified in nineteen ninety nine. We have 124 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.399 protections in place to make sure that those sort of things don't happen to the 125 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:45.600 average tribal citizen. So's we do have measures in place, and it's going 126 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.840 to protect people. So even if you know people want to change radically change 127 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:56.080 our constitution now, and you know, well with respect to McGirt or some 128 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.159 of these other issues that we've been facing as far as tribal sovereignty, you 129 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:03.120 know that's going to act actually be taken care of by the existing constitution. 130 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.799 And here's the thing, We've never been more prosperous as a people. I 131 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.879 think everyone will agree. We've seen incredible growth in our business and services we 132 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:15.039 provide to our tribal members. And some say, well, there's a potential 133 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.960 for corruption with all that money flowing into our tribe. I can't deny that 134 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:22.360 potential exists. I mean, anytime do you have money flowing into government offers 135 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:28.159 or to anyone, you know you're going to have some potential for corruption. 136 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:33.240 It's human nature, I believe. But the great thing is we have one 137 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:41.120 of the most transparent governments and business interests of any tribe, really of any 138 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.399 entity in the United States, we have laws that ensure that the freedom of 139 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:50.159 information will not be impeded when requested, and that meetings regarding official business will 140 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.879 been held in secret. We make sure that the Open Meetings Act, we 141 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:54.240 have one for Cherokee Nation, just as we have one in the state of 142 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.440 Oklahoma, and we hold that very sacrisanct, and we want to make sure 143 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:03.679 that that's pretend. And the other thing is we have a great freedom of 144 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.519 press. And that's what I always see is that the press is definitely one 145 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:09.360 of those things they call it the fourth of state, you know, in 146 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:13.159 the US government is, but it really is one of those things is kept 147 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.759 A free press actually helps keep all the other branches in check, honestly, 148 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:24.200 because if you shed light on corruption or something that might be happening, there's 149 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.600 going to be a lot less chance of that happening in the future, and 150 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:31.279 people might be able to take action to remedy it. So that's the reason 151 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.600 I think it is important to have a free press. So anyway, with 152 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:39.519 those with that transparency in those checks and balances, we ensure that those elected 153 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.600 to governess are not only responsive to our needs, but responsible to us, 154 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.879 which is as it should be. For any democracy. I feel the Chief 155 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.799 has often said in relation to this issue, if it ain't broke, don't 156 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.279 fix it. None of our elected leaders support a constitutional convention. Of majority 157 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:58.960 of our community leaders do not support a constitutional convention. Given how well things 158 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.159 are going for the tribe, it doesn't make sense to have one, And 159 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.360 honestly, I think it would be financially irresponsible to have one. I believe 160 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.639 the last estimate, according to our Secretary of State, Sheello Bolden, was 161 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.039 was going to cost upwards of a million dollars to even have a constitutional convention. 162 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:18.080 So that's a I can think of over a million reasons why we probably 163 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.480 we probably shouldn't have it. So anyway, I generally won't take a political 164 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.159 stand in a lot of issues. But that's why I'm voting no on June 165 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.759 fifteenth and encourage all my fellow Cherokees to do the same. Now, if 166 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:33.039 you have a different opinion, I respect that. It's perfectly acceptable. Yeah, 167 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:39.639 that's the great thing about living in an actual democracy. So anyway, 168 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.080 before we go, I want to make sure everyone remind everyone, so make 169 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:48.120 sure we check out our Cherokee community facebook pages for the latest events, news 170 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.519 and meetings. Washington County Cherokee Association, the Cherokee Cultural Community in Dewey, 171 00:11:52.960 --> 00:12:01.200 the Nuita Cherokee Community Foundation, Native American Fellowship. Also, since we're broadening 172 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.120 the scope of this program, I thought it was important to point out that 173 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.720 the Delaware tribe also has its own website. They have their own Facebook page. 174 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.000 In fact, I follow it regularly. In fact, this passed my 175 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:16.639 worldly weekend they had. I think it's the fifty ninth annual Delaware pow Wow. 176 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.039 And I have to admit, I grew up a mile south of the 177 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:28.440 Fowley Memorial Powout grounds where the how I was held every year. You're pretty 178 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.279 familiar. I'm very familiar with it. And I have to laugh a little 179 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:37.679 bit because my parents bought a house just across the road from where they live, 180 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:41.759 and they were in painting it and getting it ready to move in. 181 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:46.679 And my mom is always this person who always believes there's a mystical cause for 182 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:50.799 a lot of things, right, And so she heard the drum beat of 183 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.320 the pow wow and I think we could even kind of hear faintly hear the 184 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:58.240 songs, and she said, I think we have ghost Indians out here. 185 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:03.159 When I said, Mom, it's Memorial Day weekend. It's the weekend of 186 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.799 the pow Wow. You know, it's just it was pretty funny. But 187 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:09.799 yeah, but that's that's my mom. If you know her. That's pretty 188 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:13.799 It's pretty cute though, it really is. Yeah. So another thing I 189 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.440 wanted to bring up about the Delaware people, about the Delaware Tribe, as 190 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:26.399 they recently opened up a storefront grand opening of the Tetan Trade Cloth Company h 191 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:30.759 And it's actually in the Johnstone Sayer Building and I opened on June seventh. 192 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.440 And if for those of you who don't know, it's a beautiful building, 193 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:39.360 it's a it's where Hideaway Pizza is located. And that's right. And it's 194 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.799 located at one sixty Southwest Frank Phillips Boulevard. And I just wanted to give 195 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.799 a shout out to my good friend Crystal Sayer. She is a strong Native 196 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.200 ally and it never ceases to amaze me the amount of support she not only 197 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:54.200 provides our tribal communities, but bart as well as a whole. She is 198 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:58.120 really a shining light in this community and she does a lot, and I 199 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.559 just I'm just so thankful to have her presence here and a lot of people 200 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:05.679 may not remember, but her father was a state rep here for several years. 201 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:11.759 Clyde. Yeah, so a wonderful representative for this district. So Cherokee 202 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:16.320 Nation just to remind people, because in case people forget, Cherokee Nation has 203 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.399 a career services office open at the Cherokee Culture Community in Dewey, seven hundred 204 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.279 to East Durham. Is open from eight to five Monday through Friday. They 205 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.320 also have a monthly pot luck there. I wasn't able to make it last 206 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:31.200 time, but I understand that they sort of reads for basket making for the 207 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:35.600 tribal councilor door Patskowski and there's always something fun and cultural going on there, 208 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.399 so check it out. June sixth, the six pm the Washington kind of 209 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:43.639 Cherokee Association meets for our June pot luck. Anyone is welcome to attend. 210 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:48.120 We were scheduled to have Dora there as a speaker, but as I'm sure 211 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:52.279 everyone can understand, when you're a tribal counselor a lot of times your time 212 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.879 is not your own. So I just wanted to point that out. That's 213 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.720 going to be at six pm. Like said, June sixth, we're located 214 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.440 just east of the Kuyskui Health Planning near oschal Leta, and that's just off 215 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.519 County Road twenty nine hundred, about a mile and a half west of Highway 216 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.720 seventy five. In keeping with the spirit or broadening the scope of the broadcast 217 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.559 for the newly rebranded Native Beat, this month's prize giveaway as a Cato rattle. 218 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.000 And this rattle was made by Ken Duncan. He's a member of our 219 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:24.639 Washington County Cherokee Association. He does a great job on preserving his culture but 220 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:30.480 also introducing us to his culture. And I wanted to remind everyone to tune 221 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.720 in to the next edition of Native Beat, not Cherokee Chat, June seventeenth 222 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.600 and nine to forty five in the morning. You can follow us on Facebook 223 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:39.960 at Cherokee Chat, which is actually going to change the Native Beat, or 224 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.320 catch our show in the Barsol Radio Facebook page or on demand to the Barzel 225 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:48.080 Radio app available on the Apple Store. A big wadeau to all of you 226 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.000 listening, Doda do goha e until we meet again. Thank you. Cherokee 227 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:56.879 Chat is an independent production and is not affiliated or endorsed by Cherokee Nation or 228 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:00.440 any of its entities, businesses, government, or otherwise. 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