1 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,800 Welcome back everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and David 2 00:00:20,839 --> 00:00:23,280 Harsani. Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, 3 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,440 please do so at radio at the Federalist dot Com and Molly. This week, 4 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:33,240 I got an email from you hitting me up for money. What does 5 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,560 that all? Yeah, anyone who is on our email list's got a note 6 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,759 from me about a new project we have that I'm also involved in, which 7 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:47,039 is the Federalist Real Journalism Fund, where you can contribute money to support our 8 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:52,159 journalism. 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It's funny, like 25 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:05,280 technically, I guess the primary has been going on for more than a year, 26 00:02:05,319 --> 00:02:07,760 but I just don't care that much about it. I didn't feel like 27 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:13,120 I had the energy to get into it last November or throughout this whole year. 28 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:15,000 But it's really upon us, and I feel like we need to talk 29 00:02:15,039 --> 00:02:22,199 because the first caucuses will be January fifteenth or so. The thing that makes 30 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:28,919 it weird this year is that you have on the Democrat side an incumbent obviously 31 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:36,199 president who has very low approval ratings, and it is very old and his 32 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,479 policies are not going very well in terms of what the country thinks about the 33 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:44,039 economy. The whole world seems to be on fire, but there's no real 34 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:49,479 effort to get him out. The Democrat Party is very good about locking it 35 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,879 down. So even though there are people ready and willing to go, including 36 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,639 Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, they're saying that they're not really making 37 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,879 this primary be in any way open or responsive to to what the people want. 38 00:03:02,479 --> 00:03:07,240 And then on the Republican side, you have this weird incumbent non incumbent 39 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:14,039 front runner in Donald Trump. He basically has all the power of an incumbent, 40 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:17,479 and not even like an incumbent, almost like a popular incumbent. And 41 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,759 then he's not the incumbent, so he gets to run as an outsider, 42 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,039 which is the thing he's really good at doing. And so he's just crushing 43 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,520 the field right now in polls, both at the state level and nationally. 44 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Yeah, let's talk about Biden first, if he could so. Obviously, 45 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:44,039 the president has a huge advantage, right, I mean, an incumbent has 46 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,039 just he can use the bully pulpit, he has the you know, he 47 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,280 has the whole White House, he has the whole government behind him. There's 48 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:54,520 I can't think of that. When was the last time candidate was pushed out? 49 00:03:54,599 --> 00:04:00,680 Johnson would be maybe the last time a sitting president was pushed out well, 50 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:04,800 and he was he chose not to run again. And I would say 51 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:13,280 though that historically, anytime you allow a primary in your party for an incumbent, 52 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:19,240 it is almost always bad for the incumbent. So Pat Buchanan didn't do 53 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:30,519 that well in the primary, but it was enough to weaken hw when he 54 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:36,240 ran against him. Yeah, and Buchanan had similar ideas I think about, 55 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:40,360 certainly the economy as Ross Berro, did, you know what I mean? 56 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,600 So it was like a kind of a weird pot It was very much like 57 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:48,600 a trump Ist populist pushback to sort of the prevailing elitist Republicans. But also 58 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:54,839 I guess Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter in nineteen eighty, right, I 59 00:04:54,879 --> 00:04:58,199 don't really remember or know exactly if that hurt him very much, But I 60 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:00,040 mean, obviously Ted Kennedy, as much as I like the guy, probably 61 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:08,639 would have been a more dynamic candidate than Jimmy Carter. But my point is 62 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,040 that, like I've heard this before in my life, I don't you know, 63 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,680 an unpopular president. Let's get rid of him, Let's have someone better 64 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:18,079 run. But think about what that actually means. That means you're going to 65 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,639 have someone like Newsom. But do you think Kamala Harris is just going to 66 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,160 sit there and let Gavin Newsom take take the mantle there? I mean it 67 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,600 would be it would create a lot of upheaval in a party that already is 68 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,920 running the presidency, right, So why would they do that? Yeah, 69 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,360 they're in a real pickle because their candidate, their current candidate, the incumbent 70 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:47,319 is politically toxic, as is his vice president. But there's no real good 71 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,720 way out of it at all. And yet the Democrats seem to be not 72 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:56,439 the worst at getting out of pickles. Like, if you recall back in 73 00:05:56,639 --> 00:06:00,920 early twenty twenty, they had a primary situation where it looks like Bernie Sanders 74 00:06:00,959 --> 00:06:03,680 was very possibly going to get the nomination, and then like sort of within 75 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:06,519 twenty four hours, it was all taken care of. Everyone who needed to 76 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,879 drop out to drop out dropped out, and everyone who needed to stay in 77 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,879 stayed in, and everything just like and the endorsements came in for Joe Biden, 78 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:18,079 and nobody could really see who was pulling all the strings. It was 79 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,560 clear like strings, strings were being pulled, but like you couldn't really tell 80 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,439 who was doing it. And then their problem went away and Joe Biden became 81 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:30,120 the nominee and they ran that campaign from the basement, And doesn't doesn't it 82 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,120 though, seem like that's the competent right thing to do. They did win 83 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,240 the election, right, I mean, Bernie Sanders would have been disastrous for 84 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,759 them for America. And you know, I'm just saying, you know that 85 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:45,360 that there used to be a pretty somewhat of a balance I think between the 86 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:47,279 popular will of the party, which is not every voter. People forget this, 87 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:51,879 it's people are very involved in party politics and the establishment, which has 88 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,519 sort of a bigger view. And you know that's missing now, and I 89 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,560 might as well bring it up now, Like, for instance, you see 90 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,639 the Kochs backing Nikki Haley, so they're obviously against what most people seem to 91 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:09,959 want right now, you know, I mean, they're picking a candidate who 92 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,600 I keep hearing is having a surge, but I actually don't see that in 93 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,480 any poll or in any kind of in the real world anywhere. So I 94 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,839 don't know where they got that from also kind of confused why they would pick 95 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:25,519 the most obviously neo conservative candidate running probably on the Republican side, when they're 96 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:29,040 foreign policies very you know, they have a different view of that or honestly, 97 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:31,639 they're much more libertarian than she is. So I don't really get that 98 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:38,720 either. But anyway, so yeah, I don't totally understand either. I 99 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:45,120 would say I get the general feeling that coke very much once in a no 100 00:07:45,399 --> 00:07:51,720 labels kind of way to move libertarianism in a way that is more palatable to 101 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:57,560 the left side of the population. That's like a bigger that's not about their 102 00:07:57,639 --> 00:08:01,160 Nikki Haley endorsement per se, but like their bigger goal. They felt like 103 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:05,040 it had become too tied to the Republican Party and they didn't like the Republican 104 00:08:05,079 --> 00:08:09,720 Party, and so they've worked really hard in sort of like getting in that 105 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:16,399 space that the left is in, whether it's like the BLM type space or 106 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,399 other things where they tried to reach out to them. They also I think 107 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:24,600 it was twenty eighteen where they said like Donald Trump is our enemy and we 108 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,879 will do everything we can to destroy him or something, you know like that. 109 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,639 And so they've been pretty committed to stopping him. Now, I find 110 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:41,320 that weird because while obviously it's not like celebrity popular to support Donald Trump, 111 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,000 when you look at the actual ideas in terms of a realist foreign policy, 112 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:54,960 a like deregulation approach on taxes, like all the issues that you would sort 113 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,200 of think Coke cared about, he was actually not just good but getting things 114 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,720 done in a good way, his judicial appointments and all that. So I 115 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:05,879 didn't ever quite understand why they were so emotional in their hatred of him. 116 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:11,080 But then even in the Republican primary, to go with Nicki Haley, who's 117 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:16,279 most prominently identified with sort of the Paul Singer donor class neo con type, 118 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,600 you know, wing is interesting. Now. Maybe they think, as do 119 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,960 so many of people on the left, that Ron DeSantis is an authoritarian. 120 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,879 Maybe that's why, or maybe they just think that that's where most of the 121 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:37,639 donors can be rallied to make a real run at Trump getting the nomination. 122 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:45,919 I think the latter thing is probably the case, and maybe they were maybe 123 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:50,440 they've I don't know now I'm thinking like a political donor maybe, but maybe 124 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,240 they think that Nicky Haley can hurt Trump enough where the Santis can do better. 125 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:58,200 Is that a possibility? No, but I think that there is. 126 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,519 So you said, well, you said that you keep hearing that Nikki Haley 127 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,159 has a surge, but you don't actually see it. I actually I think 128 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,759 people know. I'm not the world's biggest Nicki Haley fan. But I think 129 00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:15,720 she's run a really good campaign. I think she's done a good job with 130 00:10:15,799 --> 00:10:20,639 what she has. She's got the donor class completely unified behind her, She's 131 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:26,519 got those sort of like establishment conservative media types behind her, and she is 132 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:33,919 being never Trump without being like a one note never Trump samba, which you 133 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,879 know, Ronda Santis is also running like an anti Trumpist campaign, but that's 134 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:41,679 all. It's like the only thing you kind of hear from him, or 135 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,639 the only thing you hear from his online amplifiers and so, which is very 136 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,919 like, oh, like, you're trying to win the Republican primary and you're 137 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:54,960 making your whole case be that you hate the most liked person in the party. 138 00:10:54,039 --> 00:11:00,759 Okay, good luck with that. Whereas Nicki Haley is clearly anti Trump, 139 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:03,200 but not in a way that that's all she can talk about. I 140 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,000 don't see it like that. I mean I his online people are definitely like 141 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,679 in this battle with Trump fans, and you know, it's all about Trump. 142 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,919 But what I saw DeSantis the other like every day he has some new 143 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:22,480 idea or whatever, you know, that he's amplifying, like term limits in 144 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:28,440 Congress or you know whatever. I just I don't feel like I don't feel 145 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,200 like DeSantis is anti Trump in the way that like he's not called him an 146 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,399 authority. He's not like an anti Trump type of rhetoric he's using. He's 147 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:45,279 opposing Trump in a primary and pointing out Trump's what Trump lacks rather than just 148 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,759 calling him a dictator and stuff, you know what I'm saying, Like, 149 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:52,679 I don't know. I actually think there are two different issues here. One 150 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:58,840 is Ronda Santis and his like official campaign, and then the other is the 151 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:03,120 army that I pray to God our robots, like actual robots and not real 152 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:09,559 people, because they're so bad at what they do that is tarnishing his brand 153 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,559 and image. But why do you think he's not Why do you think he's 154 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:18,080 doing so poorly like his when he I don't think anyone could come in with 155 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:22,559 like higher expectations. People were kind of hungry for him. They liked him, 156 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,000 They had very favorable views of him, and he's just like his favorability 157 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:35,320 has just been downwards since like January of the of last year or January of 158 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,679 this year, and he just is having trouble gaining traction. Do you think 159 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,799 he'll be able to eke out a win in Iowa somehow or what do you 160 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:46,960 think is going to happen with him? The first part of that question is, 161 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,120 I have no clue, because, as you well know, I don't 162 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:52,240 know why the electorate does what it does or why they like the people they 163 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:58,440 like. I think his people, you know, his online army of dead 164 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:05,080 eyed zombiel discs are just as bad. I don't understand why people wouldn't turn 165 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,320 to someone like DeSantis now, but they like Trump and is what it is. 166 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,519 And I think once Trump started going after DeSantis, his popularity were you 167 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:18,399 were you saying Ron de Santis fans online were a dead eyed zombie someone Trump? 168 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:22,480 I think I might have missed that from you, Okay, Oh, 169 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,080 I don't know. I don't know. I don't I guess, I don't 170 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,399 know. I don't I see them going after each other. Honestly, I 171 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,159 kind of ignore the whole thing because I don't think it's really that important, 172 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,879 you know what I mean in the big picture. I just I feel like 173 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:37,440 if Trump starts sending out his little email is mocking you know, Ron de 174 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,919 Santis's boots or whatever, then it's going to be bad for Rond de Santis. 175 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:43,320 There's no way for him to like stand up to that sort of thing. 176 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:46,399 He is very much, you know, more what's the word, I 177 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:52,360 don't want to say, wonkish maybe, or just more policy focused, and 178 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:56,360 it's difficult for him, I think, to be charismatic in the way Trump 179 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,440 can be. And I just think it's going to be always was going to 180 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,039 be tough for him, I should say. I actually thought he'd have more 181 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:09,000 support, but it was going to be tough to take out Trump. 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So this reporter who follows campaigns was 203 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:58,559 kind of expressing surprise about how Ron DeSantis was not taking off with the electorate. 204 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,360 And he was telling this story about a company that had a new line 205 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:07,960 of dog food that they really wanted to push, and the sales were not 206 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:14,039 great, and so they redoubled their efforts on getting this product to be liked, 207 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,440 and they had all these meetings, and they tried all these advertising, 208 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:27,000 changing the advertising and changing the distribution model and all the marketing, and the 209 00:16:27,039 --> 00:16:33,120 sales just kept not being good. And finally, this one executive explained to 210 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:37,559 the CEO, who was very upset that the people or that the dogs just 211 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:44,559 didn't like the dog food. And that was his story about like what's happening 212 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,600 with Ronda Santis? And I realized that I like Ronda Santis. Like sometimes 213 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:55,080 people will share with me something that he says and they indicate that they think 214 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,559 he comes off autistic or something, and I'm like, I liked it. 215 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:02,679 I like that he is able to articulate a concept or a thought in a 216 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:07,799 way that makes sense and that he's clearly thought about. And I also realize, 217 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:12,480 like it's not resonating with people. I think that's the dog food analogy 218 00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:18,119 is kind of unfair because he is popular or was in Florida. He basically 219 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,880 helped turn that state red. He's he's he was. You were artistic about 220 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,119 the story. Now, yes, but he's still like twenty points under in 221 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,160 Florida even in the in the primary polling. Yeah. I mean what I'm 222 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,359 saying is I'm saying nobody likes him. It's just Oh, I understand, 223 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,559 But I think if if Trump wasn't running, I think he'd be running away 224 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:40,200 with this right now. I don't know. I actually think maybe not. 225 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:45,799 I've been trying to like look at things honestly, and I'm just not I 226 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:52,039 mean maybe, Listen, I don't know. People are always think that, 227 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,480 like if you're a pundit or whatever I do, I do you have to 228 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:03,079 like endorse people or take or say whatever. Listen. It's clear. I've 229 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,000 been very clear. I do not think Donald Trump's good for the republic Party. 230 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,400 I think it's going to be a big problem. Not so much Trump 231 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,480 himself, but the trump Ism that other people have adopted does not work. 232 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:19,039 Donald Trump is a unique individual with a unique talent that someone running for Senate 233 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,559 or governor, does not cannot replicate. That's just you know, and also 234 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,519 just his ideas. But it looks to me like he's going to be the 235 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:32,599 candidate. He's going to run against Bien, who we just talked about is 236 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,759 toxic. But I have to tell you, Donald Trump is not exactly popular 237 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:38,319 outside of you know, the core Republican Party either, So it's going to 238 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:44,440 be a really weird election. And people who look at these polls, and 239 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,960 we've talked about it, where buying you know, where Donald Trump's ahead by 240 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:53,000 some time quite significantly. That's going to change when Biden starts running and all 241 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:57,160 that money and everything, and you know, and the Justice Department and others 242 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,519 are going to be campaigning again it's Donald Trump. So I think it's you 243 00:19:02,519 --> 00:19:06,000 know, too early to say that he has the upper hand or anything like 244 00:19:06,039 --> 00:19:08,119 that. But he could win the presidency. I just don't know that for 245 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,119 the Republican Party as a whole. I mean, I know, I think 246 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,759 that it's not going to be very good for them if he's the candidate. 247 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:18,839 But well, back to your point, back to your point about how people 248 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,839 expect you to endorse, I mean, it's I'm honest and that I'm not 249 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:29,039 a fan of Nikki Haley. I do like Ron DeSantis. I would still 250 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:32,839 not endorse one over the other. I just don't think that's my job at 251 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:37,680 all the issues and and not being like a super fan of Nikki Haley doesn't 252 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,640 mean I hate everything about her. There's a lot I do like about her, 253 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,279 and it's more interesting to me to like talk about the bigger issues than 254 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,279 like you need to endorse someone or not. No, I don't She would 255 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:52,319 be a massive improvement over Joe Biden. I mean, you know, I 256 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,000 mean you might not think so what I was like. You know, I 257 00:19:57,039 --> 00:20:03,279 think only the only politicians I've ever endored is Javier Malay of congratulations again, 258 00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:07,480 thank you. I think neo cons are very bad for the Republican Party. 259 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:11,200 I think they're politically toxic. I think that they I think that the establishment 260 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:18,079 likes it when Republicans carry the warmongering part of the operation that the Democrats also 261 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:22,599 support. But they can kind of like point to the Republicans and make them 262 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,559 bear the costs politically when the wars turn on popular as they inevitably do after 263 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:33,720 a few months or whatnot. And so I have concern about the effect of 264 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:37,240 people like Nikki Hayley on the Republican Party, or you know, a George 265 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,640 W. Bush type or Mint Romney type. But even still, I don't 266 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:47,039 think it's my job to endorse or not endorse people like that, and I 267 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:49,160 find it annoying. But I want to say, on the the online armies, 268 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,839 they're all awful. The Trump army has been awful for a very long 269 00:20:53,880 --> 00:21:00,319 time. But there is something that the Ron De Santis army could learn from 270 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:07,839 the Trump army, which is, don't attack people who are saying good things 271 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,640 about your candidate. Seems like basic thing, like do you remember in twenty 272 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:18,079 sixteen if you said anything against Donald Trump, that army would come against you 273 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,079 and be like you're the worst person who ever lived. Blah blah blah. 274 00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:23,359 I sure do. But if you said something like I liked what he said 275 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,559 here, they'd be like, you're getting it, You're coming along, We're 276 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:30,519 going to get you to the other side. Like they were very encouraging with 277 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:36,880 like the slightest bit of positivity. The Rowndesstanta's army just seems angry all the 278 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,640 time, and I understand that it's got to be a really disappointing thing. 279 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,039 To put your hopes into a politician and have them not perform in the way 280 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:51,160 that you would like. But they should learn that it's not persuasive to be 281 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:56,079 angry all the time and like super angry all the time. There's something about 282 00:21:56,279 --> 00:22:03,440 online campaigning that requires a bit of joy or like fun, having fun and 283 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:07,200 encouragement, and they they seem like it's just sort of like, oh, 284 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,240 I don't know much, but I know I don't want to be with those 285 00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:15,400 people because they're so unbelievably hostile and no, no, I I guess, 286 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,920 so I don't know. Oh, and sometimes when I when I, when 287 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,519 I gently say something like that, people will be like, there are these 288 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,079 major Trump influencers who are awful and you never condemn them. Well, sure, 289 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,720 I agree that there are major Trump influencers who are awful. Absolutely. 290 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,200 What they don't do is come into my social media and yell at me. 291 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:42,720 Do you know what I'm saying? Like, well, not here, you're 292 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:45,960 yet kind of I don't know. Yeah, my life is about me. 293 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:52,079 And when people are being like I'm sorry, I can't stand it when they're 294 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,200 like you're a you're uh. I can't even say the words that they say, 295 00:22:56,279 --> 00:23:00,519 you know, because you're you're unethic, and I used to like you, 296 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:03,400 but I hate you now and you're the worst scum of the earth. 297 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,160 And it's like, do you find this compelling in any way? Like, 298 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,319 it's so unbelievably awful that I have to focus my mind and remind myself how 299 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:18,759 much I like Rond de Santis despite his super fans. Here's what grinds my 300 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:25,160 gears. There's a bunch of people on the Desanta side now who used to 301 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,400 be on the Trump side, And in twenty sixteen, these same people would 302 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,160 attack me constantly, calling me a cock or whatever it is when you don't 303 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,759 agree with them, using basically many of the arguments I'm sorry for saying that 304 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:40,559 to you, just kidding, using many of the same arguments that I was 305 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,640 using against Trump right now for Rondo Santis, And it's the same exact wording. 306 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,720 But now all of a sudden, you know, Oh, Trump picks 307 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:52,640 the wrong people, puts the wrong people around him. Yeah, Trump is 308 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,599 not effective. Whatever, he doesn't keep his promises, he changes his opinion 309 00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:59,839 like all all of the like I keep trying to explain to people who call 310 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:03,720 me a cock or whatever the words they use for this is that I my 311 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:07,839 main problem with Trump is that he's not conservative enough, Like that is my 312 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,839 main problem with him, not that he you know, tweets poorly, though 313 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,400 I wish she was to control himself a little better. That reminds me of 314 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,240 something, though, David So in twenty sixteen, I felt like the worst 315 00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:22,440 treatment I got, like the really personal stuff that would like at that point 316 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,880 make me cry and my husband would have to comfort me were people who were 317 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:32,519 never Trump, and I realized at some point that they were so awful to 318 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:37,839 me because they felt betrayed by me not joining them in their never Trump oblivion. 319 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,119 Like they looked at me as someone they're like, well, she cares 320 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,000 about this, that and the other, so she should be on our side. 321 00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:47,680 And when I was like, I actually don't see the strength of that 322 00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:51,799 argument, you know, like I'm not I'm not joining you in that place 323 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:56,319 that you are, Bill Crystal, it made those people very very angry, 324 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,160 and like in a very personal and bitter way. I did have that revelation 325 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:04,559 recently, like probably because people know I like Ron DeSantis as much as I 326 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:10,839 do, they feel betrayed by me not joining his campaign or endorsing him or 327 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,960 something like that, and so they when you feel betrayed by someone, you 328 00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:18,440 say really awful things to them because you're hurt and you're angry. So that's 329 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,119 probably what's going on. Well, I mean I would try. I was 330 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,440 full blown anti Trump in twenty sixteen. Again, I still don't think he's 331 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,880 going to be a good president, but people would yell at me. So 332 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,400 I'd write about issues and they'd yell at me. Then when we love, 333 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:36,920 you're going to love the second term, David. Then when I was was 334 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,039 president and your body Javier Malay are going to like have such fun in the 335 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:45,000 Americas go on, yeah, yeah. But when he was president, I'd 336 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,279 be like, oh, this is pretty good that he did this right. 337 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,759 And then people are like politics is just transactional for you or whatever, and 338 00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:56,680 I'm like, yes, politics is completely transactional for me. I don't. 339 00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:59,680 I wrote this when I was at National Review. I would vote for a 340 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,079 so coopath if they did what I thought was right. I literally I would 341 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,359 vote for a robot if they did the things that I wanted within you know, 342 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,519 the White House. So I don't understand. I can't. That's my 343 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:14,799 problem. I think we just got to the problem. I can't wrap my 344 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:18,720 head around why anyone cares what someone's personality is or what they you know, 345 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,200 or how they connect with people or retail politics and how they shake your hands 346 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,640 and kiss your baby. Yeah, I just don't understand it. Oh, 347 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,839 I think actually the problem, I think maybe the even I'll go a step 348 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,559 further. I think I actually like autistic behavior on the campaign trip. I 349 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,119 like it when someone like explains in a robotic voice the reasoning behind their policy. 350 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,559 I'm like, I like it. Do I like it better when they 351 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:45,240 explain it in a hobby I'm malay voice, Sure, but I don't care. 352 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:48,240 I actually care about the ideas. And so when people are all about 353 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:49,960 like who do you want to have a beer with, I'm like, I 354 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,119 want to have a beer with my husband, not with any politicians. So 355 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,160 I don't care about that part. But a lot But you can't deny that 356 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,720 a lot of people do. Do you remember this is a little off topic 357 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,160 when we maybe when we first started the Federalist actually there was the libertarian moment 358 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:10,880 happening, so I was all on board, right, but I wrote a 359 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,359 column I'm like, I think that we're misreading the signs here because I think 360 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,519 there are certain issues that are like intersect with libertarianism, but people's beliefs behind 361 00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:23,720 it have nothing to do with like individual freedom, right, Like people just 362 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,839 want to smoke pot. There's no libertarian moment here, you know what I'm 363 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,680 saying, Like, yeah, there's no deeper philosophical goods exactly. People are 364 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,200 against the Irat war or whatever, but it's not because they're libertarian. It's 365 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:41,359 just because it didn't go well or whatever. But so obviously now things have 366 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:45,119 completely gone in a different direction, both in the Republican Party and certainly in 367 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,759 the Democratic Party and for people like me, who you know, I don't 368 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,400 like the word libertarian, but I use it because it's the only way I 369 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,359 can explain, you know, explain it without going into a long speech. 370 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,519 Is that things are not going my way, and I feel further and further 371 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:07,039 removed from you know, from the candidates, from from the philosophies and the 372 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,559 policies, and like, you know, I think it's a problem in the 373 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:14,000 long term, not that they're not libertarian, but that the appeal is so 374 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,160 is getting an arrow or a narrow for each party, and they're losing independence. 375 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,240 I don't even know why I got on that. But so let's take 376 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:26,599 just one step back. I was coming up. I do not look forward 377 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:33,079 to all this, but is there any way anyone can take down Trump? 378 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:34,839 Do you think? Yeah? I kind of. I wanted to go back 379 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,759 to this thing about Nikki Haley how I thought, which is to answer your 380 00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:44,839 question in part how I think she's running a good campaign. I really do. 381 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,599 She is. She has always been kind of politically savvy, and she 382 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:56,400 is managing to consolidate the never Trump, anti trump Ist forces in the party. 383 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,880 But I feel like she's got a ceiling nationwide of about thirty percent. 384 00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:06,880 That's like if every nationwide, if everything went perfectly for her, and it's 385 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,359 gone well for her, so maybe it could go perfectly, but I just 386 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:15,960 don't see it going beyond that. She is absolutely ideal candidate for two thousand 387 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,359 to era Republican Party, like, couldn't be better, but we're not in 388 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,119 two thousands, so I just don't see it going well in dictions. What 389 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,799 was that when the Republicans were winning elections nationwide? Well, yeah, but 390 00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:34,039 then with a candidate just like her, but mail, yeah, I'm a 391 00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:40,200 popular governor of Texas, you know who. It's good to remember what happens 392 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,720 immediately after that, though, you know that ushers in an era that is, 393 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:52,559 or let's say, like the Republican Party had been united on anti Sovietism 394 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:57,279 for a long time and this was a great way to meld the defense folks 395 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:02,799 and the social conservatives and the ex economic libertarian types, and they were all 396 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:06,599 working together on this common enemy. And then there was that period after the 397 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:10,079 fall of the Soviet Union where there was confusion about where to go, and 398 00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:19,119 you had the Defense group really morph into this interventionist war type approach and basically 399 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,039 squandered the peace dividend that we had from winning the Cold War and doing it 400 00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:27,720 so well. And the result on the party was bad, Like it was 401 00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:32,599 a very bad effect on the Republican Party and put the Republican Party in a 402 00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:37,400 bad place for a while. So yes, So when you say back when 403 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,119 they were quote winning the two thousand election, which was a very close close 404 00:30:42,359 --> 00:30:47,680 thought, No, No, then she would have been ideal were there. 405 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:52,559 Just to be fair, w was preaching against interventionist war against nation, but 406 00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:59,359 he was against changed the entire dynamic. I should say she would be ideal 407 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,200 in the two thousan two era or whatever post two thousand and one. Okay, 408 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:10,240 sorry you would, sorry to be pedantic about that. I don't in 409 00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:12,680 Iowa. If I can say something on behalf of Rond de Santis, who's 410 00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:19,240 run otherwise a not great campaign. He's invested on having a ground game there 411 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:25,400 and visiting every county and working on getting people to support him. The endorsements 412 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,720 he's received from Kim Reynolds and the evangelical guy who's got a bit of a 413 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:36,279 reputation for pay for play. I forget his name, that vander Platz that 414 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:41,480 they I think will see if the vander Platz endorsement meant anything. The Kim 415 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:45,599 Reynolds one didn't seem to. But he's really invested all of his money on 416 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:51,039 winning Iowa. Now they're moving the goalpost to obviously, we're not going to 417 00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,599 win Iowa, or maybe they're maybe they think they still can, and maybe 418 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,839 they I don't know, who knows what happens in caucuses. They're weird. 419 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,799 But it's more like they're trying to re set expectations as we will win second 420 00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:05,559 place, or we'll do it. 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I assume Trump is probably leading 445 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,200 there, but I don't know. I may say her, by the way, 446 00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:06,079 if Trump is winning Florida by twenty points over the very popular Governor DeSantis, 447 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,320 I would have a hard time seeing Nikki doing much better. But okay, 448 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,559 go on, I'm just going to say that one thing Nikki Haley did 449 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,039 have noticed about her is she doesn't actually go after Trump at all, and 450 00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:22,039 that I don't think that that's what makes her popular with never Trumper's and so 451 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,199 on. Obviously, I think she would take a VP not from him, 452 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,599 for sure. I think that I think maybe she's even angling for that right 453 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:31,880 now in a way, what do you think, interested do you think that 454 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,880 there's a chance that he would tap her? So a few weeks for VPS 455 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,239 the one. Yeah, a few weeks ago I noticed a change in Washington, 456 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,119 d C. A slight change. So in Washington, d C. 457 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:49,559 The entire Republican Party thinks its job is to prevent Trump and his voters from 458 00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,079 having any power. Right. That's kind of like to a lesser or greater 459 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:57,920 extent. So for ever, since twenty fifteen, the conversation about Trump has 460 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,000 always been like, how do we stop him? Even even if publicly people 461 00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:07,519 pretend that they'd like him, And up until a few weeks ago, it 462 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:09,920 seemed like the conversation was just constantly like how do we stop him? How 463 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,800 do we stop him? How do we stop him? Even going so far 464 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,960 as to endorse really dangerous ideas like trying to keep him off the ballot or 465 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,960 things like that, like quietly and quietly endorse the things. And a few 466 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,599 weeks ago I noticed that the conversation was starting to turn into like who should 467 00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:34,159 we get into the Trump administration? And that's what I think smart people should 468 00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:38,559 be doing right now is thinking the smart people in the establishment or Republican Party 469 00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:43,280 who don't like Trump, what they should be doing is angling for getting one 470 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,679 of their people in as vice president. That's my way of saying, yes, 471 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:51,320 I could see him giving the nod to Nikki Hayley that they would work 472 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,119 that way, or just someone else that they would find palatable that they could 473 00:35:55,159 --> 00:36:00,280 work through, much in the way that they worked through Mike Pence. It's 474 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:07,000 like Donald Trump holds grudges and he takes things very personally if you oppose him, 475 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,719 but also if you turn around and say, actually, Trump's a pretty 476 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,239 good guy, he'll like immediately forgive you and you'll be his best buddy. 477 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,440 So I can see her doing that sort of thing and getting the nod. 478 00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,559 I just I assume that Trump fans would be mad about that pick. I 479 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:25,679 would, oh, I mean, I would feel like it was John Bolton 480 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,440 two point zero. But it might help with I think the VP thing's overrated. 481 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:36,800 I don't think most people really care, but I think that it might 482 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,639 make some inroads with people. I thought the Mike Pence one was an inspired 483 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,000 choice, and I say that as someone who was on record not liking Mike 484 00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:49,679 Pence in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen when he messed up the RIFRA situation in 485 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,239 Indiana. But it still was a really good choice. It solved a problem 486 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:59,800 that was at that moment threatening to keep him from winning. So you that's 487 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,840 why I always view vice presidents. You have like to spend the next four 488 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,760 years with someone that you picked for a for an electoral reason at that moment. 489 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,199 It is interesting because George Bush changed the formula. He'd pick someone who 490 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,800 was never going to run for president, who's going to help him run the 491 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,559 administration. Actually, I think Obama similarly picked Biden thinking he wasn't really a 492 00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,920 political threat and that he was bringing some sort of I laugh even saying this, 493 00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:30,760 some sort of gravitas or moderation, moderation, I think, yeah, 494 00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:36,480 But Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris was an identity politics pick. I don't think 495 00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:40,800 Biden really thought that through completely in a sense. But I think for Trump, 496 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,440 he actually needs a person who's very competent who can run help him run 497 00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:50,239 things, rather than someone who just like makes him look more moderate. And 498 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,719 wouldn't it be just great if that was Ron DeSantis. I mean, I 499 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,199 would be so happy, and I don't think that that's going to happen. 500 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,480 It won't happen because one of them would have to leave Florida to get the 501 00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:06,960 electoral votes of Florida. And also because I think that you just said Donald 502 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,679 Trump holds a grudge, and I think other people hold grudges much better than 503 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,960 he holds grudges. They're just quieter about it. Trump I just tells you 504 00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:19,280 what he's thinking, like in his brain. There's like a there's like a 505 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,280 glass window on his forehead and you just get to look right in there. 506 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,639 And other people are more discreet about how much they dislike people who are disloyal. 507 00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:31,760 I just, yeah, disloy so I I yeah. First of all, 508 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,280 I just think for DeSantis, if he loses, which he probably will, 509 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,800 Florida is a better place for him to be where he can accomplish some 510 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,559 stuff and then after next time around he can give it another shot. I 511 00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:45,320 just want to say, I was interviewing for the book on Justice Alito, 512 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,639 and I'm not sure, probably shouldn't, I should save it for the book. 513 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,599 But when George W. Bush nominated Harriet Myers, and it really upset 514 00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:59,079 a lot of people in the conservative movement, and they spoke against it. 515 00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:06,039 That disloyalty was punished in extreme measure. So for instance, like the Roman 516 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:12,239 Catholics who opposed her were disinvited from from when the Pope came to visit that 517 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,920 year. They were they had been invited, then they were disinvited from getting 518 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,760 to see him at the White House. I mean, they're Disloyalty is something 519 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,199 that a lot of politicians care about. They're just usually much more discreet about 520 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:30,000 it. The Bush White House, they ran that ship tightly and there was 521 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:37,000 a lot of a lot of uh punishment meted out, like car roast style 522 00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:40,480 and all of that. But I'm not even I not I'm not saying it 523 00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:44,400 like in a mean way. It's kind of what you do. I think 524 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,320 it's funny when people are like Donald Trump cares about disloyalty. It's like they 525 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,360 all do. They all care deeply, and they take they hold grudges, 526 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,280 and this is a skill that like reporters can exploit or this is a thing 527 00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,480 reporters can exploit to get good stuff on you know other people. Remember, 528 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:02,679 oh, that person also doesn't like Liz Cheney. Let me see what they 529 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:09,000 know about what's going on or whatever. Well, it's all coming around very 530 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:14,400 soon. I just don't. I don't see how Trump doesn't win. It 531 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,519 would take him either stepping down, you know, because of legal troubles, 532 00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:22,840 which I don't think he would do. I would, you know. So 533 00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:24,760 I just don't. I don't even understand that argument, Like it seems almost 534 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,880 the opposite. Yeah, it seems to me he would be incentivized to stay 535 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,639 in the race because of those troubles and because many of them, and I 536 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,960 agree with him, I think are connected to politics. Maybe not everything, 537 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,599 but many of those troubles, and and I think that they actually help him, 538 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,960 you know, I think they help him in the primary, and they 539 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,079 may even help him in the in the general. It's going to be awful 540 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,639 the Biden Trump election. I'm just saying this. It's it's going to be 541 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,199 somewhat entertaining. I gotta be honest with you, but it's going to be 542 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,639 it's going to be really just awful. Do you agree? Keep thinking there's 543 00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:02,960 no way it's going to be Biden. So I don't know. I have 544 00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:06,920 a hard time even envisioning the race. I also didn't think it was going 545 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,920 to be Biden in twenty twenty, So clearly I'm very bad at prognosticating who 546 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,239 did you think it was going to be? I just didn't think that someone 547 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,559 that old and that mentally challenged was going to win the nomination. Who was 548 00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:27,400 that out of step with the excitement and base of the Democrat Party. I 549 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,719 didn't necessarily know who it would be. I just didn't think that it was 550 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,760 going to be the eighty year old Joe Biden. He's the luckiest politician who's 551 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,559 ever lived. Ever. He came into office in seventy three or whatever it 552 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:42,440 was, right on the tail of Watergate. Typically Democrat would't have won that 553 00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:51,960 race. Then this lightweight, ridiculous person just like got you know, befriended 554 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:57,559 segregationists, befriended whoever you need to need it to get power. Then Obama 555 00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:00,480 picked him because he was the most useless person of it, just like esthetically 556 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:04,920 the right person for that role. And then he became president in a COVID 557 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,119 year where he could sit in a basement. This is the luckiest human being 558 00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:09,760 I think, who has ever lived. In many ways. Obviously, the 559 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,760 only think I would say it's luck that our corporate media engage in propaganda on 560 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:21,280 behalf of their preferred candidates. That's not luck. That's just like a system, 561 00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:25,199 systemic problem in our corporate media. But there's a ceiling on that. 562 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,840 I mean, this is Reagan sort of went over the media and Trump went 563 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,800 around the media, and like, you know, I'm just saying, there's 564 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,800 a limit to what they can they can do. I don't think it's luck 565 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:43,119 that we have a censorship industrial complex that works to control information to favor candidates 566 00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:47,679 and policy issues that they support and destroy those they don't. So Molly, 567 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,800 I'm going to turn our attention to Israel for a minute in a way for 568 00:42:52,000 --> 00:43:00,480 becoming primaries. Chuck Schumer today Wednesday gave a speech on anti semism, and 569 00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:04,920 a lot of it's what you would expect, but he did say, and 570 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,159 I'm rather surprised that he did say that primarily the anti Semitism you see today 571 00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:15,440 in the United States comes from liberal let me quote him, from people that 572 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:21,599 most liberal Jewish Americans felt previously were their ideological fellow travelers. And I am 573 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:25,360 not a fan of Chuck Schumer at all. I think he's a pretty horrible 574 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,239 person. But I think it took some bravery to say something like that for 575 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,000 him, the leader of his party in the Senate. What do you think? 576 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,880 I don't know. I don't know enough about Democrat politics to know whether 577 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,159 that was bravery or the opposite. You know, I don't truly know, 578 00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:46,079 But I do think Democrats have a very difficult situation going on in that the 579 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:54,239 enthusiasm of their party in their base is with these groups that are running their 580 00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:01,599 riots in defense of the Palestinian cause, which in this context is you know, 581 00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:06,639 a pro Hamas, a pro Hamas posture. There you have members of 582 00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:10,360 Congress who are unwilling to condemn Hamas. Did you see the Oakland City Council 583 00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:15,960 passed a resolution or was passing a resolution to call for a ceasefire in Gaza, 584 00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:21,719 which is a very sort of pro Hamas position. But they also wanted 585 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,679 someone on the council wanted to add an amendment to condemn Hamas for the for 586 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,800 the attack on October seventh, And for hours people spoke against that amendment and 587 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,760 said it was racist and awful and how could they say that in this context? 588 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,559 And they were like openly supporting Hamas as the military wing of the Palestinian 589 00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:45,159 resistance and saying they were justified it was horrific. I mean, this is 590 00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:50,400 in the United States of America, in Oakland, and that's what the Democrat 591 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,519 Party is dealing with. It's a very difficult situation. Now. They also 592 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:59,320 said that, you know, the pictures of dead women and babies were just 593 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,199 invented by Israelis and stuff like that. I mean, they're full blown conspiracy 594 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,079 theories going on. Yeah, I think so, I want to take back 595 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:08,559 what I just said, though, I actually don't think it's brave to be 596 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,639 I don't know why I even said that. It's just common decency to point 597 00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:17,039 out reality, objective fact, and Chuck Schumer is just doing that. I 598 00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:23,760 think in the context of how dementish politics is and how it, like yes, 599 00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:29,360 messes your brain up and your morality up. That it is an outlier 600 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,960 for him, But it is just common decency. And I point out anti 601 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,559 Semitism if I see it, if it's on my side, and he should 602 00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:37,079 do the same. It should not be a big deal. Oh my gosh, 603 00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:38,800 I have so many thoughts here. First off, I just want to 604 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:44,239 say, and this might not sound related, but I saw this thing about 605 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:51,199 how Roslin Carter specifically requested that Milania Trump be at her funeral because she wanted 606 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:57,199 all living former first ladies to be in attendance if they could. And I 607 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,440 was struck by what you just said. It's just common decency to behave this 608 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,280 way, Like, of course Milania Trump should be there if she's able, 609 00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:10,360 But I was so touched by it, and then I felt weird about being 610 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:15,760 touched by by Roslin Carter doing something that everybody should do, you know. 611 00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:22,480 And then the other thing is I really hate it when people use anti semitism 612 00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,519 of like one group or another for political gain. So if there's an anti 613 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:29,239 Semite on the right, then you have all these left being like that leftist 614 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,880 being like, oh, anti semitism is this conservative problem, and then vice 615 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,800 versa. It's actually present across political ideologies. It's one of the things that's 616 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:45,239 so insidious about about about anti Semitism is that it exists in lots of different 617 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:51,400 places and it should be called out by everyone. And so I do appreciate 618 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,840 that Chuck Schumer is doing it. I'm a little I actually think it should 619 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,599 have been done right at the outset, like some strong pushback. But Democrats 620 00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:02,000 have a very difficult position. There was this tweet from Joe Biden that said 621 00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:08,480 something like Hamas wanted war, so if you give them war, you're giving 622 00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:13,039 Hamas what it wants, or something like that. Did you see that tweet? 623 00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:15,719 Well, it was worse than that. But I do want to just 624 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,440 say that Juctionmers should have said this in twenty eighteen when anti Semites first showed 625 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:24,719 up in Congress. And I would like to push back on something. I 626 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:30,320 know that perhaps it's weird that I'm doing this with you, but the less 627 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,800 anti semitism is most much more pernicious because it is inside their party in a 628 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,760 way that it is not inside the Republican Party. I mean, I hate 629 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,480 to break it to everyone, but there are some a few maybe out you 630 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,039 know, backbenchers that say some things here and there that are bad news for 631 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:52,239 Jews in the Republican side. On the left, you have the entire activist 632 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:58,039 movement of the left is anti Semitic. There are the entire squad in my 633 00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:02,079 view, except maybe for one of them, is pedals anti semitism. Yeah, 634 00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:05,599 all I mean to say is when you say it like it's only on 635 00:48:05,639 --> 00:48:07,639 the other side and not on that's all I meant. I agree with you, 636 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,960 Like there's there aren't like massive marches of tens of thousands of people on 637 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,519 the right calling for Jews to be killed like you see routinely happening on the 638 00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:22,159 left in major cities across America. Like, no, No, I don't 639 00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:27,199 think any Republican congress person cheered on Charlottesville, where there's a Charlottesville every day 640 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,800 now and they and sometimes the squad shows up to march in it, in 641 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,639 them, you know what I mean. Anyway, the tweet you're talking about 642 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,440 was worse. He said that. Yeah, he which that ridiculous platitude where 643 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,599 if someone declares warn you, if you fight back, you're actually doing what 644 00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:50,719 they want. You know what they want. But he also said that engaging 645 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,840 in terror and violence is not the answer. It's only going to strengthen Hamas 646 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,559 or something like that. Israel's engaging in terror. Terrorism is a specific war 647 00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:02,320 is a word. They're not terror. They're not terror bombing like the Allies 648 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,280 terror Hamburg or whatever they are trying to get rid of Hamas. There's a 649 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:13,119 big difference between that and terrorism. But it is so NBC News had this 650 00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:19,199 big piece planted by someone in the Biden administration, regurgitated probably word for word 651 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,960 by these reporters that there's a big rift between Obama and Biden over how to 652 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,559 deal with Israel, and that Obama wants him to be tougher, but he's 653 00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:32,320 holding fast and he's not going to be. The day they released this piece, 654 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,440 he called he said Israel was engaged in terror. He's been trying to 655 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,960 stop them from going to kaza from the beginning. He is not as bad 656 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,480 as Obama, but he is. He's not. Do you think Donald Trump 657 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,320 would be doing that? Listen, you know how I feel about Donald Trump. 658 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,920 Donald Trump would say Israel take care of these terrorists. He would not 659 00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:53,239 be trying to limit them in doing the right thing. So I just say, 660 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:58,159 also, Israel, that's why you're gonna love a second term of Donald 661 00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:04,280 Trump. Well, I gotta love it. But oh sorry, I just 662 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,440 had a thought about Rond DeSantis. Sorry. We had a piece this week 663 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,119 that I thought was really really interesting and well done by just like a lay 664 00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:15,679 person who was saying that Ron de Santis should have run the campaign that Gavin 665 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:21,320 Newsom is running against Biden, which is to say, not a no vert 666 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,239 campaign, but you are ready to go the moment any opening arises. And 667 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,800 this was based on this writer's belief that there was no way to take down 668 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,760 Donald Trump this year. I think that's also a lot of people's view. 669 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,960 So one of the commenters in the Federalist community, you know, when you 670 00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:44,239 join Federalist Community, you can comment on articles, and I love reading the 671 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,679 comments. But one of the comments was from someone saying, like, yeah, 672 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,199 obviously this is writer or whatever, but like, what should Ron DeSantis 673 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,880 do now? That is a question that I think he should answer about. 674 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:59,239 He should answer well for his political future. But one thing like when I 675 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,239 think about what I I wish Rohnda Santis would have done, because I really 676 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,840 like him, is have his first very successful term as governor, then have 677 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:13,119 his second very successful term of governor maybe once you know, if if Trump 678 00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:17,320 were elected, then you can come into the administration at a very high level, 679 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,960 like a very like a like a plumb cabinet position or something, and 680 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:28,880 then that perfectly positioned you to run after his first term. Yeah, I 681 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,039 just think that would have been good. He could still do that. Let's 682 00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:37,400 say he wants to run next time. What who else is out there right 683 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:45,840 now? That is more I'm just saying that this thought about Ron Santis and 684 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,039 what he should do now, because I do think he is I don't want 685 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,000 his cause to be for not you know, I like him. He's a 686 00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:59,159 politician though, you know, if it doesn't work out for him anyway. 687 00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:02,639 I just wanted to point out that Joe Biden, Chris Murphy other senators are 688 00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:07,960 pushing Israel back into this two state solution nonsense, which would create a terror 689 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,239 state right on its border. It would have a three front terror state. 690 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,400 Now how mus would be running the West Bank within a year. It is 691 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,039 insane. It is not ro Israel to take that position in any way. 692 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,960 So we'll see where that goes. I don't think it will happen. But 693 00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:32,679 Obama's you know, Obama's influences all over this administration and is clearly influential in 694 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,400 how they speak about it and what they're doing, at least in my view. 695 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,840 All right, let's talk about culture. What have you been enough to? 696 00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:45,159 Have you been back to movies? Reading books? I had a really 697 00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:52,159 weird Thanksgiving in that my husband and kids went to visit his family and I 698 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,400 stayed to work on my book. So I think it's the first time I've 699 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:02,159 been alone in my house possibly in my entire life, and I don't. 700 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,119 I don't want it to sound bad, but like I've really enjoyed it. 701 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,880 I liked this is this is so maybe this is an appropriate to share. 702 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:15,079 But I didn't need to go like find toilet paper because there was no toilet 703 00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:19,599 paper on the role because I because people weren't using like obscene amounts of toilet 704 00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:23,000 paper. And like when I cleaned the kitchen, it stayed clean and it 705 00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:29,000 was just quiet and I could think and it was lovely. I'm not saying 706 00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:32,920 I didn't miss them. I did miss them a great deal, but I 707 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,800 was like, oh, this is this is nice? Like I literally never 708 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,840 lived alone. Was there like a Molly Risky business moment? Would you like 709 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,760 put music on it the floor? Now? No? And the only time 710 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,039 I did anything sort of cultural, I guess is like when I was rowing, 711 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:54,519 I my husband put our old TV in my little gym area and so 712 00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:58,920 I can watch things now while rowing. The bad thing about this is that 713 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,119 I've been listening to pot casts before he did this, which is probably more 714 00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:06,800 useful, but it really does help to have this visual stimulations. You can 715 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:12,840 watch other things while you're rowing. And I watched a Shane Gillis comedy special. 716 00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:17,159 Oh yeah, I was curious about that. Yeah. I want other 717 00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:21,960 people to watch it and then tell me what they thought. I he's the 718 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,239 guy that got fired off of Saturday Night Live within hours because he had He 719 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:34,559 was this guy who was expected to be their resident, like token non leftist, 720 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,000 and his comedy had included things that were taken out of context, and 721 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:42,440 I fired him. But he's I think he's pretty funny. It was a 722 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,719 little raunchy for me. I don't like super I don't like raunchy stuff, 723 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,440 So I just want to warn everybody. It was raunchy in a way that 724 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,920 offended my sensibilities. But there were some funny parts to it, and his 725 00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:59,320 Trump impersonation is fantastic. I saw one joke he made about He said, 726 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,199 if you're fine yourself reading about history, it's on set Republican early on, 727 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,000 and I just want you to know that's early on set Republicanism. He's like, 728 00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:09,239 I'm not there yet, but I know where I'm headed. Mark Boyce 729 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,320 says that when you turn forty as a male, they like issue you World 730 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,400 War two books. You see behind me like, I'm like, these are 731 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,719 all history books. No, I did that. I had told you. 732 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,119 I watched the Sliced Loane thing. I liked it. I liked the Sliced 733 00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:30,639 Loan documentary. And then I've been watching like a sort of weird documentary series 734 00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:34,880 on living to one hundred, a desire I don't actually have, you know, 735 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,440 to like live my life that I can definitely live to one hundred. 736 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,960 And it looks at different communities that have a high rate of centenarians and what 737 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,079 their cultures are like. But it just works for the for the workout, 738 00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:50,559 if that makes sense. Those are called like blue zones or I forget what 739 00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:52,440 they're called. Yeah, yeah, blue zones. So I read a piece 740 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,320 I wish I could remember where I read it that kind of debunks that stuff, 741 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,239 if you're interested. I have a problem with documentaries period in that no 742 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,360 matter what they say, I'm was like, I believe the opposite. I 743 00:56:04,519 --> 00:56:09,440 left that supersized Me documentary and immediately went and got some fries, like and 744 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:15,400 I'm not a fast food person. And I felt that way about this one. 745 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:19,039 I was like, this seems like complete pseudoscience and this guy seems like 746 00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:23,599 a huckster. Having said that, I liked just seeing different things about like 747 00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:28,760 how these old Japanese folks are tending their garden and how they crouched down and 748 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,719 get up, and I was thinking about it, even like my parents are 749 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:37,400 only in their seventies, but they are well. My dad, my dad 750 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,079 is in better health than he has any right to be, like he's almost 751 00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:44,559 died multiple times, and my mom is in stellar health. And they'll they'll 752 00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:45,880 have these things in these documentaries and I'll be like, oh, I wonder 753 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,800 if things are going well for my parents because they garden, they're out in 754 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,519 their yard a lot. They have a multi level home, so they have 755 00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:57,480 to climb stairs a lot just all these things or you know, and they 756 00:56:57,519 --> 00:57:00,719 have good routines and go to church and all that kind of stuff. Anyway, 757 00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:02,960 I already hate my multi level home. Like I look at the stairs 758 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,159 sometimes if I forget something upstairs, I'm like, ah, I wish someone 759 00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:08,239 was up there. I could just yell at them and they throw it down. 760 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,199 But David, when we when we bought our house, like a big 761 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,400 selling point is it's basic. I mean there are multiple multiple levels, but 762 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,840 you don't need to leave one level. And I was like, I am 763 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,440 already in the house. I can I can age age in. When Mark 764 00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:28,119 leaves me or to death. Sorry, that sounded bad. Leaves me like 765 00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:30,719 Mark will die before I do because he's a man, right, And then 766 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,480 I'll just get a little dog and I'll live on my one level here in 767 00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:36,599 this house. I thought it was it. Oh, I hate to quote 768 00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:40,599 Bill Cosby but didn't say that men die first because they want to. But 769 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:47,079 yeah, I I thank you for thank you for making my marriage sound awful. 770 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,800 That's fine. I'm going to die first, for sure. I wanted 771 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,559 to say, like, you know how you exercise inside with the TV. 772 00:57:55,599 --> 00:58:00,760 It's very difficult for me to exercise inside. I noticed, like I can't 773 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:01,840 get myself to do it this way, I write, I took a bike 774 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,519 riding outside where I just get to see the world, to get out of 775 00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:12,599 my house see the world a little bit. So, yeah, I can't 776 00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:15,199 exercise inside. Maybe I need to watch TV. Maybe I need to put 777 00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:16,960 a TV. At first I need to buy exercise equipment. Then I need 778 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,920 to get a TV. I did. Yeah, I did nothing culturally at 779 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,119 all. I've been working on a book myself. I do watch sports, 780 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:30,599 and when you watch sports, you get to see commercials. And can I 781 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,000 tell you, have you seen this ad with Adam Driver. Do you know 782 00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:36,639 what I'm talking about? I know who Adam Driver is, but I have 783 00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:38,039 not seen the ad. There are three kinds of ads on TV. I 784 00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:40,519 don't know you stream stuff, so you probably don't see ads, but there 785 00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:44,639 are three ads. You can buy luxury cars, you can buy perfumes, 786 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:50,800 or you can buy pharmaceuticals that may may help you or they may possibly kill 787 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,880 you. That's what I get from these commercials. It is an ad with 788 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,599 Adam Driver and he's running next to a horse really fast, and then he's 789 00:58:57,719 --> 00:59:01,320 swimming with a horse and then he turns into what is it called? Is 790 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:06,320 it a Senatar centaur? There's a horse man, Yeah, and he's a 791 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,039 centaur in it. You So you have to look this commercial up at some 792 00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:12,239 point. Okay, I don't know. I'm sharing this with everyone, but 793 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,639 that is my cultural intake. What what about that? Was it good? 794 00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:22,159 Bad? It's amazing? I laughed. I laughed more every time I see 795 00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:27,400 it. I shared it online. I wanted other people to participate in enjoying 796 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,320 it, but they do not. There's so many of these. There's one 797 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,400 with like they've had on for years, with Johnny Depp and he's playing guitar 798 00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:40,400 like wild Thing or whatever Dior and then they have like other celebrities doing these 799 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,400 commercials, like Natalie Portman is like has a pickup truck filled with flowers. 800 00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:49,039 It's you know, okay, that's how I say. It reminds me of 801 00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:52,199 Zoolander. It's like watching the Zoolander but dumber, but more over the top 802 00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:55,039 than Merman. You know what I mean. I'll have to check it out 803 00:59:55,079 --> 01:00:04,760 because I was in Greece this summer and I went to Athens and we got 804 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,559 to see a lot of centaur art and I'm just kind of curious. Oh 805 01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:15,639 yeah, yeah, I'm gonna send your picture. It is amazing. Okay. 806 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,400 Yeah, I really had nothing to say. That's all I could come 807 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,039 up with, so but I have to But I did enjoy it. I 808 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,519 was watching a show called New Girl. Have you ever watched that show? 809 01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:30,000 It's like a sitcom. Yeah, it's basically just like I think. I 810 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,920 think. Yeah, it's Zoe Deschanel. Yeah, who is married or dating 811 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,320 one of those brothers who like remakes the houses do what I'm talking about? 812 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:49,119 She is? Yeah, the twins really? Yeah, do you know their 813 01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:57,039 names because I don't Scott brothers, Yes, the Property brothers. Property Brothers. 814 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,199 One time, one of the Property Brothers like a peace of mind. 815 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:05,960 Remember when I wrote about redoing your house years ago it almost ruined your marriage 816 01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,719 exactly, and he liked the piece. Is she she's with the guy that 817 01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:14,039 divorced then? By the way, I guess Property Brothers ruined his marriage? 818 01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:17,440 Hey, O, No, I think it's the other one, but I'm 819 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,719 not sure. One of them is kind of a little more masculine than the 820 01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:23,639 others. I fair to say. I think she's with the last masculine one, 821 01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:30,599 but I'm not sure. So I thought she was married to that Death 822 01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:37,320 Cab for Q. She was. She was, she was, isn't it? 823 01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:39,960 So whenever I watch a show, immediately go to Wikipedia and read everything 824 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,719 about all the people in the show. So, yes, she was married. 825 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,480 I pretend I don't know, But Zohanell is married to the guy from 826 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:52,239 Death Cabin for Quti for Cutie. She has a sister who's on a show 827 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,480 Bones or one of those shows I forget. Yeah, yeah, all right, 828 01:01:54,519 --> 01:02:00,840 this is ridiculous. It's okay, stop, just mind everyone. If 829 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:06,039 you would like to email the show give us better cultural suggestions that we're watching 830 01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:08,840 now, it can do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. Do 831 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,480 I have anything else to say? I don't know. I was like, 832 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,599 wait, my supposed to do? I do want to actually, I do 833 01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:17,480 want to say that before we recorded this podcast, we had like a forty 834 01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:25,840 minute discussion about Pat Buchanan, and David thought that we should have done it. 835 01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:30,119 We should have recorded it. I'm not sure. No, it would 836 01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:32,880 have gone in a lot of trouble. What I said was that that kind 837 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,199 of conversation would make this a big I mean, not that we don't have 838 01:02:37,239 --> 01:02:39,320 a lot of listeners already, but we would be massive if we could have 839 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,239 those kind of discussions on here where we're yelling at each other where I was 840 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:49,400 yelling a lot. But yeah, yeah, we should do like a we 841 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,320 should do a you're wrong after dark or something you know you're wrong uncensored. 842 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,599 I think I should just be allowed to curse and then we should just beep 843 01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:00,280 it out. You did you used to word? I was just thinking because 844 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,320 my oldest daughter knows started listening to this, and I'm like, oh, 845 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,880 I'll have to explain to her what that really the word is? What not 846 01:03:09,079 --> 01:03:15,039 the C word? I didn't never would use that word. Set saying oh, 847 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,719 they say crap or something that's not a bad word. All right, 848 01:03:19,159 --> 01:03:21,599 you can't say it. I'm not going to say it, but all right. 849 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,639 Anyway, Well, I'll find better ways to say bad words in the 850 01:03:25,679 --> 01:03:29,599 future, and I hope you'll join us. Until then, be lovers of 851 01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:30,000 freedom and anxious with the friend