WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:26.079 Second hour of the program. At the bottom of the hour, Ted Coulfin 2 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:30.600 Detroit News will join us. You can text the program Sports Radio to twenty 3 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:33.520 one thousand. You can call us on the Meyer Hotline eighty six six eight 4 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:37.600 three eight forty eight forty three. This is x'es and Brosware with you Monday 5 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:41.679 through Friday from six until nine. Don't forget the huge show a little bit 6 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:47.200 later on on these great station affiliates Monday through Friday, three until six. 7 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:51.439 I'm Matt Shepherd. Trent is our producer, and we look forward to the 8 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:56.000 conversation coming up with Ted Coulfin at seven thirty five to Shaun Tate will join 9 00:00:56.119 --> 00:01:02.000 us to talk NBA at eight thirty five. And that has something to do 10 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:04.680 with our pole question. Our pole questions, we have two of them. 11 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.120 Was the pistons hiring of JB. Bickerstaff a good one? Yes, No, 12 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:14.359 it won't matter until they get better players. And then the second pole 13 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:18.680 question and you can vote his official want follow us on Twitter at Exis and 14 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:23.400 bros Is. Regarding the Red Wings, Patrick Kaine, did you want the 15 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:30.239 Red Wings to resign? Patrick Kane signed Steven Stamkos or both now Let's keep 16 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:34.280 in mind with Steven Stamkos, who I think has been you know, he's 17 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.079 a Hall of Fame player, there's no doubt he's a Hall of Fame player. 18 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.239 But how much would it take to get a guy like Steven Stamkos here 19 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:52.319 if it's going to break the bank at his age of thirty five, right, 20 00:01:52.879 --> 00:02:00.040 and he's had some issues health wise, No, I wouldn't want that. 21 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:10.759 No, thanks. You cannot let big name seduction getting the way of 22 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:16.719 long term plans. So I think Detroit is one of those teams that he 23 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:22.360 is interested in, Steven stampcos I would guess, you know, a team 24 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:27.479 like perhaps Vegas would be involved or want to get involved, and maybe a 25 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.479 team like Nashville who could use a guy down the middle who could score a 26 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:35.560 little bit. Anyway, you can vote as often as you want and we'll 27 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.400 give you the results tomorrow. We'll have the results of Friday's poll. Question 28 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:42.680 that had to do with golf. We'll get to that coming up in the 29 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:46.560 eight o'clock hour. Speaking of golf, in case you missed it, Cam 30 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:52.759 Smith wins the Rocket Mortgage Classic. He becomes the first two time winner of 31 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:55.840 the event. He carted to two hundred seventy on Sunday, finished eighteen under 32 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:01.080 for the tournament, one shot of Akshay Batilla, who three putted from thirty 33 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:07.599 two feet on eighteen. The par putt had some movement. It wasn't necessarily 34 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:16.560 as tricky as the Rory McElroy putt at the US Open where he lost to 35 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:22.159 Bryson de Shamba, but it had a little bit of movement there. It 36 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.879 was from four feet away, and I thought, but TIA's answer afterwards when 37 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.520 people last him, I give him a ton of credit. He said, 38 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:35.919 it's probably a little nerves. I'm human. It wasn't for the win, 39 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:42.080 it was for a playoff. It was his first three putt of the weekend. 40 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:49.120 It was just his second bogie of the tournament. I was rooting for 41 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.520 him. He's just a twenty two year old young man from North Carolina. 42 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:54.680 I think he's a good player. I think he's a really good player. 43 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.560 Nelon against Cam Smith, who's also a really good player too. But Cam 44 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.360 Smith has won twice on the PGA Tour. In twenty twenty one, he 45 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:11.680 wanted the Rocket Mortgage Classic. Now in twenty twenty four, he's one of 46 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:17.040 the Rocket Mortgage Classic. So there's your look at some local things. Also, 47 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:23.800 the Pistons hiring JB. Bickerstaff again, pull question. You like it? 48 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:28.680 I like it a lot. He gets a five year deal, four 49 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:36.920 years guaranteed. I like it because he has a history of developing younger players. 50 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.000 Forget the big name. I don't think he's got a big name, 51 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.959 but I think people know who he is. Forget the big name seduction that 52 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:54.519 you and many of us always have. But what he has done, Granted 53 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:57.519 he got fired. A lot of coaches has been fired for crying out loud. 54 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:00.879 Okay, let's not a caught up in that kind of stuff. Sam 55 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:05.839 vange Gunny got fired, Doug Collins got fired, Dwayne Casey got fired, 56 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:14.959 Chuck Daily got fired. You're not finding many guys who are the head coach 57 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:19.000 of an organization and staying there for their entire careers. There's not many Greg 58 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:32.319 Popovich's out there anyway. Bickerstaff has that history of taking a team and getting 59 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:40.439 them to the next step and steps all right. Calves reached the playoffs twice 60 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:45.319 under his leadership, got out of one series once and this was this past 61 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:50.560 year. Pretty damn good considering what they had available to them. Shaf The 62 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:55.920 Cavs won more games last season than the Pistons, having their last two combined, 63 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:59.680 last two combined, right, isn't that crazy? It is? And 64 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.040 I think it's funny you bring up Chuck Daily because the last coach to get 65 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:05.800 fired by the Calves and hired by the Pistons was one Chuck Daily. So 66 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:10.279 I think Pistons fans right now would sign up for Chuck Daily two point zero 67 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:14.199 if Bickerstaff can even come close to that. Absolutely, And I didn't know 68 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:16.600 that. That's a good nugget. Pistons have won no more than twenty three 69 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.720 games in a single season in each of the past five seasons, four straight 70 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:24.120 years with a top five pick, So that's a that's a low bar, 71 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:29.480 man, right, low bar can't get any lower than fourteen games, right, 72 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:32.160 Well though, we said that about seventeen and look what happened. But 73 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:34.920 you're right, No, you're one hundred sent right. I mean, so 74 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:41.199 the Cavs went from twenty to and fifty under Bickerstaff's first season, and remember 75 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:45.759 he took over when John Beeline quote unquote quid or the team quit on him 76 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.959 in Cleveland, and then in his second year, so they go from twenty 77 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:53.800 to and fifty. So you're doing the math right now, and you're going, 78 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.439 wait, that's only seventy two games. So he takes over for b 79 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:00.480 Line full time head coach forty four and thirty eight in a second year. 80 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:05.519 I don't think that's a first of all, twenty two. A bump from 81 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:13.959 twenty two to forty four is massive. I do not expect the Pistons to 82 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:18.959 go from fourteen to thirty six. Okay, we'd love it. It's still 83 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:25.160 not what you ever really want, but it's gonna you're gonna see progress. 84 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:30.759 Okay. I would argue this is nothing against Monty Williams, who, in 85 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:42.199 my minimal dealings with good dude, Okay, you have to be all in, 86 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:48.560 you have to be dedicated and a want to. I'm not gonna say 87 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:56.160 Monty Williams wasn't dedicated, but the want to was pretty obviously lacking. JB. 88 00:07:56.319 --> 00:08:01.959 Bickerstaff I do not worry about now. I did read a national article, 89 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:07.839 I think it was supporting news where it said the Pistons have plenty of 90 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:13.079 standout talent on their roster, and I thought to myself, who the hell 91 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:20.839 is writing this stand out talent? Trent answer me the question of stand out 92 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.800 talent for the Pistons, give me the guy who is stand out talent. 93 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:28.160 Well, one is Cad And I mean the Pistons put their money where their 94 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.319 mouth is yesterday on that front. Other than that, sheep, it's really 95 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:33.039 in the eye of the beholder. I mean, I'm higher on some of 96 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.440 the younger talent than most, but I'm with you, there's not much, 97 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.120 but it's not stand out, correct. J. J. N Ivy doesn't 98 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:43.879 stand out. No, neither does Duran right, Okay? And who knows 99 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.919 about Ron hollin the second right, so that he's not even in the conversation. 100 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.360 There's nobody else on this team that has stand out talent. Caid Cunningham, 101 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.360 Yes, and to your point, kid, Cunningham reportedly set to sign 102 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:58.120 a five year, two hundred and twenty six million dollars extension. That's great, 103 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.639 that's I mean, that's that's fantastic. 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Well, it's 163 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:20.240 an extension, it's not just the next five years. I think that is 164 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:26.720 fantastic I think it tells you something about him and the organization. And before 165 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:30.360 we start shaking your head vigorously and saying it's all about the money, Look, 166 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:35.840 it's about the money no matter who is out there signing a contract, 167 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:41.960 right. I mean, you can't help that. When people teams are throwing 168 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.200 money at you, you can't help it. Here's the thing I would tell 169 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:52.639 you, though, if you didn't agree or respect the organization, you're eventually 170 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.639 with a guy like him, his talent, his ability, He's eventually going 171 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:03.440 to get the money he is. Think about it. What is Paul George 172 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:11.120 signing for in Philadelphia. He's gonna get a four year deal. So eventually 173 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:18.000 Caid Cunningham And it's a lot of money, a ton of money. Valentunas 174 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.279 agreed to that three year, thirty million dollar deal with Washington. Oh you 175 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:28.919 can't. You can't bring people in in Washington. Nobody wants to go to 176 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.200 Washington. Nobody wants to go to Detroit, all this other stuff. Give 177 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:35.399 me a break, man. If the money is there, it's going to 178 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.039 be. They're gonna they'll lure you there. You may not get the top 179 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:46.000 name free agent, but you'll be able to get some decent players, caid 180 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.399 Cunningham could have easily said, you know what, I'm gonna play this rookie 181 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:52.200 contract out and I'm going to see what's available out there, and he would 182 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.639 have gotten a lot of money as much as what he did with signing with 183 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.919 Detroit. Perhaps not, but you can build on those contents. Eventually that 184 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:08.200 money is going to come your way. I believe this speaks of his character. 185 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:14.879 I believe it speaks of his leadership, and I believe it speaks to 186 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:19.000 his belief that eventually this team is going to turn things around. When that 187 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.320 is, I don't know he would know better than I would, or have 188 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:27.559 a better sense of it. I just know. I just know this. 189 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:33.120 I mean, when you look at certain players, Contavii's Caldwell Pope's a good 190 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:37.360 example. Contavius Caldwell Pope is a guy who's been around for a long time, 191 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:41.879 and if you recall, he's a former Piston, all right. He 192 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.720 is a guy who's drafted in the first round, the eighth pick overall in 193 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:52.000 twenty eighteen. He's been a very steady player. Does he have the gifts 194 00:16:52.039 --> 00:17:00.399 of cap Cunningham, Absolutely not, But playing four years in Detroit, playing 195 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:04.440 four years in Los Angeles for the Lakers, a year in Washington that might 196 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:08.240 have been tough to take, a couple of years in Denver. Caldwell Pope 197 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:14.480 now signs a contract with Orlando. Now it's not over two hundred million dollars, 198 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.799 but it's sixty six million dollars. He's also not in his early twenties, 199 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.440 thirty one years old chep thirty one, thirty one. My point is 200 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.680 eventually, I mean, the money's going to be there. Maybe not all 201 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.319 at once, but the money's going to be there. How do you read 202 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:44.759 or what do you read into about Cad Cunningham staying with the Pistons. Now, 203 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:49.440 I'm sure there are skeptics out there, the people who look at things 204 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:53.799 in a negative light, and I can fall into that trap as well, 205 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:02.920 who will say that's all they got, So what that's all they got? 206 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:11.680 Folks. It's more than just money that requires players to sign free agent deals 207 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:17.440 or get excited about a certain trade. It's the opportunity to play with certain 208 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:23.319 individuals. And I think there's a lot of players who eventually, maybe not 209 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:27.160 right now, and I'm not saying they're superstars, so don't get it twisted, 210 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:30.759 but there are certain guys they're going to say, you know what, 211 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:34.000 I'm going to go there. I'm excited to play with that dude because that 212 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:40.400 dude's a really good player. What do you think the perception is of Caid 213 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:45.240 Cunningham in the NBA. Maybe we'll talk with Deshaun Tate about that. He's 214 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:51.279 going to joins at eight thirty five. Do they view him as a star, 215 00:18:52.640 --> 00:19:00.559 a superstar, a future superstar. I think everybody recognizes his overall talent. 216 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:07.119 I think everybody recognizes and I think there'll be something to be said for 217 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.319 them saying, you know what, this dude chose to stick it out with 218 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:15.039 this team. He wants to win there. That is really good for people 219 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:21.200 here in Detroit and people in the state of Michigan. But there are other 220 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:25.759 athletes who've had the exact same mindset and just had moreked out. Matthew Stafford's 221 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:30.400 a pretty good example of that. Wanted to win here, didn't win here, 222 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.319 had to go someplace else. In one Ky Cunningham seems to be the 223 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:37.519 guy who wants to win here, and I know that's pollyannish. It is 224 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:41.960 we all want to win in the place, or many athletes want to win 225 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.960 in the place that drafts them. They want to be. They'll tell you 226 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:51.720 this publicly when they start. This is where I want to start and end 227 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:56.359 my career, which I've always found rather funny because you don't know what it's 228 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:02.319 like when you first sign. Let's see what happens, right, But that's 229 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:10.559 the perfect story, is to stay with one team. Well, rarely does 230 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:15.000 that happen. You know, there's no Cal Ripken junior stories anymore. I 231 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.960 mean, we've been fortunate in Detroit to have certain guys Trammel Whitaker, for 232 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:22.880 example, way back in the day, stay with one team. If if 233 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:29.480 Grant Hill wasn't going to stay with one team, I can't imagine that a 234 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.960 guy like Kate Cunningham is going to remain a Piston for his entire career. 235 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.079 That's not my concern right now. My concern right now is what are they 236 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.440 going to do to surround him. I wouldn't be surprised if the hiring of 237 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:48.759 JB. Bickerstaff didn't play a slight part in him signing, because I think 238 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.119 a lot of players look at JB. Bickerstaff as a guy who's going to 239 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.839 help them get better, young players get better. I would love Kate Cunningham 240 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:03.839 to be and Isaiah Thomas Joe Doom where they stay a piston for their entire 241 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:10.599 career because he seems like a that type of guy. But whether he does 242 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:15.079 or doesn't isn't of interest to me right now. Right now, what's of 243 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.079 interest to me is that he's got a five year extension with this team, 244 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:23.039 and this team can use him as the centerpiece, the focal point moving forward. 245 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:26.119 So again we'll talk about that with Deshaun Tate at eight thirty five. 246 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.400 When we come back, we'll dive into Red Wings discussion with Ted Kalf and 247 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.839 our friend from the Detroit News. He joins us on Exes and Bros. 248 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:38.200 Right after this huge Here for the Michigan High School Athletic Association. 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Happy holidays 273 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.039 early to you and your family. Ted, We appreciate it very much. 274 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:22.319 I know you're well and I know you've been busy, so appreciate the time 275 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.440 very much. The Patrick Kane first and foremost, the Patrick Kaine one year 276 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.240 deal. Why do you think this is such a good deal for Steve Eisman 277 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.200 and the Red Wings And what does this allow them to do moving forward with 278 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:38.319 another you know, established leader and a producer of twenty goals from a year 279 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:42.160 ago. Well, first, thanks for the kind words, and I think 280 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:48.000 the Hall of Fame thing was ninety five percent sports writing and five percent wreck 281 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.799 basketball and softball. Let me tell you, Bobby Benia Dage, you get 282 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.759 your million dollar paycheck in the mailbox this morning. Well listen, of course, 283 00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:59.119 I'm just I just can't wait to spend it. You know, I'm 284 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:03.000 sure you did too. You're the best man. I tell you A great 285 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:06.960 signing for one year, come on, Chep. I mean, I think 286 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.400 all the talk was about all he was gonna want it two or three years. 287 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:14.799 I'm gonna be curious to see how that went down. Yeah, I 288 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.359 mean, and the money for a million dollar base, so, Schep, 289 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.440 they got a couple more extra million to play with today. So you know, 290 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.960 there'll be some interesting names out there. And we've talked about him Stamcoast, 291 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:30.200 Jonathan marsh Show betrayed with Jacob Truba is still in the mix. So 292 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:36.119 it's gonna be really interesting, interesting to see how he puts Steve Weisman puts 293 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:40.039 all these pieces together. But yeah, Patrick Kanemy showed everybody he can still 294 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.480 play at a very elite level last year. What did you think he brought 295 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.960 to the team that it lacked, that it needed. That's a good question, 296 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.680 Sep. Just a little pizzazz. I mean that nickname showtime, it 297 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:56.359 really yeah, it fits. I mean that's what he brought. I mean, 298 00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.119 he had a sense of exciting here. Man, that flair for the 299 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:00.680 dramatic. How many goals to you have? I think he had like four 300 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:04.119 game winning goals and O T or something like that. I mean, just 301 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:11.319 that little extra. It would have been tough to replace him. What is 302 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.119 he? You know? From a player standpoint? Uh, I think they've 303 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.039 got leaders in there. He's just another one. But he seems to settle 304 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.920 guys down. Do you think that's part of the DNA that they like in 305 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.160 that room before him? Yeah? Sure, I mean he's been He's done 306 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:32.119 it a long time. He's been in every possible situation, every possible moment. 307 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:37.039 Uh. What multiple Stanley Cup championships, man, I mean he just 308 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.519 he knows how to bring it at the biggest possible moment. He can calm 309 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.480 the young guys down. He's been through it. Uh. He and the 310 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:49.519 thing of chemistry wise just really good. He fit into that room really well. 311 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:53.960 I was kind of curious how that was gonna work. But he's just 312 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.319 he's fit in really seamlessly. Uh. And he seemed to like it, 313 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.119 Chap, I really did. He liked playing for the organization like the area, 314 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:10.680 who's familiar with it. I'm not shocked that he came back. I 315 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.400 thought there was a really good chance, but I am surprised by just the 316 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.759 one year. I really thought it'd be multiple years. But then again, 317 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.559 like we said earlier, that one year with the base, that's only four 318 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.119 million bucks that's going to help the Wings. Yeah, there's no question. 319 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.240 Tik Kulfin of the Detroit News joining us here on X's and Bros. You 320 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:33.359 can fall him on Twitter on X at t Kulfin k U l f A. 321 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.960 And he's the dearborn Hall of Famer and he's with us on this Monday 322 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:44.440 morning. Now that he's in the fold. And you understand they had a 323 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:45.920 lot of money under the cap, but a lot of that money's going to 324 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:51.440 Raymond Insider, Right, So where did they go next? And what would 325 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:56.960 it take to get one of those players on their wish list? Man, 326 00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:00.559 that's a great question, Chepe. If I was the GM and where would 327 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:07.279 I go next? Or I would definitely try. I suppose that Steven Stamkost, 328 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.200 I'm not sure that's gonna Again, maybe I'm mister pessimistic. I'm not 329 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:17.000 sure that that's going to happen. Because I've heard that Nashville is going to 330 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:21.240 be very aggressive. The Rangers are going to be very aggressive, and I 331 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:25.599 just don't know if the Wings can match that. But I tell you my 332 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.559 friend and you know, to Steve Weichman has a way. I mean, 333 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.799 he's pretty good these sort of things. He's got a relationship with stamp posts. 334 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:40.000 So let's see if that kind of helps the TRUEBA thing like we you 335 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:44.680 know, we heard about all weekend. I'm not sure how much there is 336 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:48.799 to that. I would definitely consider it. I don't know if you would. 337 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.079 I would consider it for the number. I guess Rangers will retain some 338 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.359 of that money, so the Wings would probably be on the hook for about 339 00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:03.720 five or five point five. That's reasonable. I suppose. I think there's 340 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.640 better options than Jacob True but but he's I think he would fit in nicely 341 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.279 on This gives him, he gives him some bite and physicality, There's no 342 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.480 question about that. But uh, you know what, here's one name under 343 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.599 the radar a little bit. Uh the little goal scorer from Vegas, Jonathan 344 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:25.000 Marcia Show. You know, he won the Conmys a couple of years ago. 345 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.680 He's an interesting option if they I think he would really help. He's 346 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:36.039 been h he's been a pretty consistent thirty goal scorer whatnot. Plays with kind 347 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.200 of a little David Paran type of thing, and he's good friends with David 348 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.799 Paran. Plays with a little bit of you know, he has a little 349 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.640 bit of an edge, kind of a kind of guy that's under the gets 350 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:51.319 under the fingernails of the other team. He'd be an option, uh, 351 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.359 long, long, long, long shot Tyler Bertuzzi. Who knows, maybe 352 00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.559 that they get you know, something can happen there. But that's a long, 353 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.240 long one unshot. But there's some options. There'll be a fun day, 354 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:04.559 that's for sure. It always is. Yeah, you know what, 355 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:08.960 I'm glad you bring that up because to me, I don't think you necessarily 356 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.519 need to be by the big names all the time. It just has to 357 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:17.160 be the right fit. And you brought up David Perron. I think David 358 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:21.240 Prawn has been a very good fit. Do you anticipate him re upping and 359 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.160 staying in Detroit? He sure likes it, Harshop, I'll tell you that 360 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.880 much. He really enjoys it here. He's going to have to take a 361 00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:32.759 little bit of a salary bite. I mean he can't take he can't make 362 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:34.319 as much a he's last year, but I think he would at this point 363 00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.319 in his career. No, you're absolutely right, my friend. I think 364 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.640 he's been a good fit and I do think I'd be surprised if they don't 365 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.880 work out something with him. And then the defenseman Shane Gostis p hair that'll 366 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.400 be a little more difficult. I guess we'll see what happens with True but 367 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.960 first I suppose too, But I thought the one thing with that Gustus be 368 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:59.160 hair man is he run of power. I mean, you had heard all 369 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.920 the positives about how good he is with with a puck at his stick. 370 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.559 He is something special. That'd be uh, you know, he lacks a 371 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.559 little defensively, but boy, oh boy, he brings it on the other 372 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.200 end of the rink. And again, that'd be a tough guy to replace 373 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.160 if they lose him. Yeah, there's no question about that. I think, 374 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.480 you know, for as bad as he may be defensively, he makes 375 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:26.640 up for that offensively and the power play. And maybe that's why Jacob True, 376 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.640 but at least for me, is is such an attractive option. I've 377 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.000 liked him ever since he came out from the University of Michigan. I loved 378 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.680 him in Winnipeg. I think he'd be a really big plus for the Red 379 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.559 Wings, but I've been wrong before. I thought Jeff Petree would be as 380 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:47.480 well. How much should we his defensive metrics is defensive staffs and you can 381 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.880 I'm not you know those metrics? What just the eye I look for the 382 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:56.079 eye test he has slipped at. He didn't play as well with the Rangers 383 00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.680 the last couple of seasons, and he wasn't demoted down to the third pair 384 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.640 in the playoffs and that's where he was. Ragers are kind of penciling them 385 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.000 in next year. He's lost to maybe a little bit of a step, 386 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:13.400 and he takes some bad penalties, but boy, that just that idea that 387 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:17.559 he's back there and he's not afraid to hit. Obviously, that would be 388 00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.160 an interesting, a good option for them to have back there. In that 389 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:28.359 regard, how much should we read ted into what this team is doing moving 390 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:35.119 forward and the trading of Wollman and the second round pick and some of the 391 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:39.599 younger players that maybe we feel are close to being ready to jump into the 392 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:45.599 next next year. Well, the Wallman trench shop that was just basically done 393 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:50.000 to clear cap space. They needed a little bit more room for what they 394 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:55.880 wanted to accomplish today and signing Raymond and Cider tough to move salary of these 395 00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:00.200 days in the NHL, and that kind of shows that there were a couple 396 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.680 other deals this weekend where the team had to attached a draft pick just to 397 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.079 basically unload a salary. Uh And by the way, wellman, I thought 398 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.519 he slipped a little bit last year, Shop. I mean, he was 399 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.559 as good as he was the year before. I mean, he was a 400 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:21.720 healthy scratch there down the down the down the stretch, and you know who 401 00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.680 knew you know where he was going to stand on the depth chart next season. 402 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:30.039 But yeah, I mean you got Simon Edvinson coming in for sure, 403 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:31.319 a shop. But he looks like he's going to be the real deal. 404 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:36.680 He could be a nice player. Johansen kid, I hadn't watched him as 405 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.039 much just during training camp in some of the preseason games. I mean, 406 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:43.519 they love, they love the way he moves the puck. He's a really 407 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.920 steady guy. Bergeran Johnson Burner, He's been up here before, He's had 408 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:53.559 some success here before. Bergert, you do kind of wonder where he's going 409 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:58.640 to fit into the lineup, especially after today, if they get a couple 410 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.759 of guys, we'll see what happens. I think he's ready to play nice. 411 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:06.839 He's got great instinct shep. He knows what to do with the puck. 412 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:10.679 He seems to be in the right spot all the time. They've got 413 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.920 some guys ready. I mean, pretty soon, you're pretty soon here we'll 414 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:20.079 get to see the likes of what Nate Danielson and who's the other first of 415 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.400 Marco Casper. I don't know if there's room this year SHP, but it's 416 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:30.360 gonna be pretty soon, probably another year year away. So yeah, he'll 417 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.360 be interesting. I mean, if he bridges some of these guys that he 418 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.760 signs, like Caine last night, just to one year, that does still 419 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:43.440 leave some open spots for next year. So there's some depth. There's some 420 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:45.880 depth of this organization. I think, well, we will begin to see 421 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.239 it this year and definitely in the next two or three years. It's a 422 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.960 good sign. Ted Coulfin joining us here on Exus and Bros. You can 423 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.119 follo him on ex at t Coulfin he of the Detroit News. Eight draft 424 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.639 picks over the weekend, led by Michael Brandon nine yard right the kid from 425 00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:06.920 Norway and the first ever Norwegian drafted in the first round. What was your 426 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:12.079 overall take on the hall that Steve Eiserman and Chris Draper had for Detroit on 427 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.320 Draft weekend. Well, we'll see in the future set, but it was 428 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.039 the full They definitely they needed a few more score more wingers. I mean, 429 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.440 they got a lot of pieces on defense as far as the depth chart 430 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:28.320 and organizationally, they needed a few more wingers. The kid from Norway, 431 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.599 he's not far away. Evidently he's got a pro build. I mean, 432 00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.159 he's pretty strong kid, heck of a shot. Allegedly, Uh, he 433 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.079 plays hard, great on the forchet. A couple of scouts told me this 434 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:45.000 guy might be the best for checker in the draft class. So you know 435 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.119 they needed a guy they don't think that didn't necessarily have a guy like that 436 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:52.239 anywhere. So he he helps a lot of people, like that second round 437 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:58.559 pick from the US program shop Ye, Max Plant nice faster. Allegedly, 438 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.840 one guy told he might be one of the best passes, if not the 439 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:06.719 best passer in the draft. You can find just the way you can feather 440 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.480 the puck. He finds the open man and then their here's one sleeper. 441 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:15.840 That Swedish kid they got like in the fifth or sixth round, that Charlie 442 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:21.159 Forthland. I think it is big kids six foot three. Uh, one 443 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.880 of those kids that played in the lower division than Sweden, so he kind 444 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:29.239 of dominated. But you know, we'll see how that translates next season into 445 00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:34.880 playing into a bigger division. But you look at the size and the skill. 446 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.280 You know, you can put the puck in the net and some other 447 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.000 things that they like. It could be who knows, maybe I'll be one 448 00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:44.880 of those kids down the line that they really found a gym later in the 449 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:51.079 draft said what does this team need? Hmm, that's a great question. 450 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:58.360 That's a great question. Uh could use a few you know what, This 451 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.320 teams be better defensively. I think the offense is starting to come around. 452 00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:04.320 I mean if you would have asked me that a year or two ago, 453 00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.039 but it didn't score enough goals. I think they'll be able to score enough 454 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.320 goals. They kind of they did this season, but they still have to 455 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.679 stop the other team. I mean that was still a problem last year. 456 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.400 So I guess to a certain extent, do we look at the goaltending, 457 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:23.119 does that still need to be upgraded. Uh, you know who's so in 458 00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:30.920 Lion. I don't know. It's not bad. It's not a bad combo. 459 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.719 I'm sure I could be. It could be better. So maybe he 460 00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:39.000 goes well, there's nothing in free agency that really betters that. But maybe 461 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:45.119 on the trade market does he find something but a healthy I'll tell you what, 462 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.119 a healthy Whoso. I still think that could be. That's a pretty 463 00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.039 good adoption to have. I think he could. He showed two years ago 464 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.280 he could be a really good goalie and last year was just a wash. 465 00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.480 I mean, he just was injured the entire year and sand got for Alex 466 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.400 Lion last year. SEPD then had him by would have made a disaster. 467 00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.039 He stepped up and played really well. He really did. But here's the 468 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:12.079 bigger concern for me. Anyway, You're much closer to it than I can 469 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.840 be. But I just don't see how they have a number one goalie. 470 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.679 It's kind of like it's kind of like the Tigers lineup. You really don't 471 00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.840 have a lot of number one guys at different positions. I wouldn't mind Whoso 472 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.440 as a backup. I wouldn't mind lying as a backup. But if I'm 473 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:30.159 playing either one of those guys on a regular basis. I'm slightly concerned. 474 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:34.599 How far off are there? Argument? Shop? We were just talking about 475 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.239 that. That's a fair argument. A healthy who's soo I kind of think 476 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.679 Highland a little more highly of it, sounds like than you do. But 477 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.440 he's got to be healthy, that's the thing. He's got to be healthy. 478 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.119 Alex Lyon. Yeah, I mean he had a really good run last 479 00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.440 year, but then he did get it seemed like he got a little tired 480 00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.159 there at the end or whether the pressure or whatnot. Now that's a very 481 00:38:54.199 --> 00:39:00.280 fair point. That's maybe the old go in that direction. How about maybe 482 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.880 sadn't I mean, how about somebody like a John Gibson from Anaheim. Yeah, 483 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.840 I mean he's kind of slipped to the last couple of years, but 484 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.159 he's ad a you know, he's still that age wise, he's still he 485 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.280 can still bring it, probably and that might be an improvement, but it's 486 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:19.480 not a ton of That's a tough that's a tough position to fill, I 487 00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.760 tell you that goalie and you just never know what them I mean, it's 488 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:27.159 like a relief pitcher. You just never know, you know. Steve Wiseman, 489 00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.559 well, enough. Last question for you, what is his patients level 490 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:34.559 right now with this team, knowing that you're going to have to it was 491 00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.920 going to be a while for this, for this rebuild, if you will, 492 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:44.000 But there are the expectations. Are people are getting a little restless. 493 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.519 You're right. I think he wants to win, don't you. I think 494 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:50.800 it's about time. I think he's had I think he's a little tired of 495 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:55.599 the losing. I think he is a patient man and he wants to do 496 00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:00.880 this the right way. But I just judging by some of these moves the 497 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.000 last couple of years, he wants to make the playoffs. I mean, 498 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.760 let's face it, and he wants to get this thing going. That's my 499 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.800 impression anyways. Yeah, and with the younger players that he's got coming up, 500 00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.360 he feels like he can be sustainable because it's something that he has said, 501 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.960 it's got to be more than just one year, right, and he 502 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.800 wants You want to do that. You want to build something like a Tampa 503 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:27.360 or you know, the Bruins or Florida. You want to do that. 504 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.000 And I think he's got his way to doing that with the depth that he's 505 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.800 kind of building up in the organization, for sure. It's great stuff, 506 00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.880 Ted, appreciate it very much. All the best to you and your family. 507 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:38.440 Thanks to the time this morning, and hope we can talk again. 508 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:45.239 It's always insightful. Appreciate your writing on the Detroit News and all the stuff 509 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.639 you tweet out at Tea Culfin and taking some time with us here on a 510 00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.480 Monday morning. Buddy, you are the absolute best any time, my friend. 511 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:53.719 All right, thank you, pal, have a great week. That's 512 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:58.599 Ted Culfin of the Detroit News joining us here on exes and burros. Really 513 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:02.320 good insight. The Patrick King stuff, the possibility of Stamco sent other names 514 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.440 out there. I like Jonathan Marcisso from Vegas, proven winner guy who does 515 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.039 a lot of the little things that perhaps many of us don't always recognize when 516 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.280 you watch them on a regular basis. 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