WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:24.719 On Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. Big thanks to 2 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:28.359 everybody who checked out the interview yesterday with Pat Kelsey. Obviously I know a 3 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.480 lot of people listen live who probably are listening right now, but a lot 4 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:34.240 of good feedback from those that are podcast listeners, which hey, however you're 5 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.520 listening whenever, wherever you're listening, we certainly appreciate it. It was nice 6 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:42.039 to have coach Kelsey on the show, and it was just a reminder for 7 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.479 me, not that I needed to be reminded, that there is so much 8 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:50.840 excitement from Louisville basketball fans for this upcoming season. And yes, part of 9 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.000 it is just due to the fact that we know we're going to be in 10 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:56.640 much better shape than what we were in with the previous regime. But also 11 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:00.159 Pat Kelsey's a guy that I think, even when he doesn't even I mean 12 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:02.920 when he's not really turning it on to try to be a hype man, 13 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:07.879 his energy, his enthusiasm, it's infectious and it's uh, it's rubbing off 14 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.680 on the fans. So a lot of excitement I am really looking at. 15 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.560 My son is just now old enough Austin to where he you know, he's 16 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:18.480 he's known of sports for quite some time. He just turned for a couple 17 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.599 of weeks ago. But he's now to the point where like he knows who 18 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:25.359 wins and loses, right, he's not just watching and he knows. Like 19 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:30.159 it was last year early on in the season, whenever he kind of looked 20 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:34.599 at me with this puzzling but almost like a there was like a revelation that 21 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.079 he realized the goat cards suck. Like he didn't say it, but like 22 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:42.719 he was kind of like Dad, like, you know, we're not we 23 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.439 don't We're not good, are we? And I don't remember exactly what word 24 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:47.920 he used or how he said it, but I had to break it to 25 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:49.599 him. You know, we'll be better. We'll be back one day. 26 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.480 And now you know he's all in with Coach Kelsey and even if they lose, 27 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:56.680 I'm gonna try to tell him that they won, but he'll know, 28 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.480 and uh, it's good stuff. When I got home yesterday, you know, 29 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.599 I told him I was gonna have Coach on the show, and you 30 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:06.640 know he's I mean when I told him we got a new coach, and 31 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.879 I was excited. You know, he wanted to be excited with me. 32 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:13.719 So he actually brings up a little of basketball a lot and and asked me, 33 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.199 did did you talk about Coach Kelsey and that kind of stuff? Within 34 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:19.159 yesterday when I got home, he said, did you have Pat Kelsey? 35 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:21.680 I listened to you with Pat Kelsey? And then he asked me why I 36 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.639 didn't tell Pat Kelsey I loved him whenever I told him by because I always 37 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.560 tell you know, love you by. I always say that to my kids, 38 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.520 and I still say to my parents when I talk to them on the 39 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.039 phone. And I knew I forgot something. I forgot to tell Pat Kelsey 40 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.319 that I loved it. Yeah, So if you're listening, Coach, I 41 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:38.280 love you. That's weird, but you know I wanted to tell you on 42 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:40.599 behalf of my son, Moose loves you too. Yeah. Oh yeah, 43 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:44.400 dude, he's he's even got the glasses. You ever seen the picture that 44 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.199 I po He can, he can, he can become. You know, 45 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:51.639 he might in fact, might be a good Halloween costume for him to sure, 46 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:53.439 right, you know, just you know, cut his hair a little 47 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.479 bit and you know, get him in a you know, a Louisville not 48 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:59.199 a suit like Coach Kelsey's gonna wear. On the sideline. But you know 49 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.120 something, you know, and yes, something you'd see a coach wearing practice 50 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:06.879 write some practice gear and just put those glasses on you and he'll be good 51 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:08.439 to go and he'll be screaming. He'll be screaming, you know, go 52 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:12.400 car cards. Yeah, So a lot of sports bars around town, obviously, 53 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.159 regardless if you are a fan of Louisvill or Kentucky. If you're a 54 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.039 server waitress, you know, it's probably in your best interest. Like if 55 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:21.479 there's a big game on and there's Kentucky fans there, and if you're a 56 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.240 Louisville fan, it's it's gross to do it, but like I get it. 57 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.520 Everybody's got to make a living. Like you might throw on the UK 58 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:29.919 shirt right because you want your you want your customers to think that you're all 59 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.639 in with the cats as well. Sure, And we were at lunch last 60 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:38.120 week and just little things my son does confirms to me that he's going to 61 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.120 be he's going to be a psycho like I am about this stuff about the 62 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:44.439 rivalry, you know. And our waitress she was super great, but she 63 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:47.560 had a UK shirt on because I think UK Baseball played later that day and 64 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:52.599 we walked out and uh, Mason told me. He said, he said, 65 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:55.800 Dad, she liked the Go Cats, we like the Go Cards. 66 00:03:57.080 --> 00:03:59.039 And I was like, I know, it's it's okay. Sometimes you know, 67 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:01.000 there'll be people. And she said he told me he wanted to go 68 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.000 in there and tell her Boo cats. And I was like, we don't 69 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.360 have to do that. But I like where you're I like where your heads. 70 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:10.080 That sign like that's that's the kind of you know, and he's you 71 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:13.159 know, he's still so young, which you know, it's good, it's 72 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.719 he It's a good sign early. But it also makes me wonder, like, 73 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:16.839 okay, what am I am? I creating a monster? Yeah? 74 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:19.199 And I kind of wouldn't give it any other way. Yeah, I kind 75 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:21.399 of wouldn't want it any other way. But maybe his mother wouldn't agree. 76 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:25.680 I don't know. We gotta we gotta have that conversation where you like that 77 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.800 deep into it at that age where you like kind of understanding the cards and 78 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:33.680 cats thing. So I always knew, I mean as long as I can, 79 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:38.040 as early as I can remember, I knew that I loved Louisville and 80 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:40.680 I didn't like Kentucky. Uh huh. But they're really you know, my 81 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:45.279 early days of and again I wouldn't have my situation any other way. So 82 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.519 the early days of me being a big Louisville fan, we're talking five six 83 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.480 years old. You know at that time, Louisville wasn't great, right, 84 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:57.279 I mean that was My earliest memories are Louisvill's teams that you know we're all 85 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:00.560 right, uh with, like Tick Rogers and those guys. But ninety seven 86 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.800 I was nine, that was the really really good team. So like that 87 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.439 team went to an Elite eight that was Dwan Wat, Alvin Simms, those 88 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:10.920 guys, bj Flynn, Bozac Smith, Damian Danceler. I mean, I 89 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:12.639 can, I can, I can go on and on. So I love 90 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.920 that team. They were special. But I remember Louislle teams before that. 91 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:19.439 But Kentucky was always really good, and it didn't bother me because I didn't 92 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:21.680 really have a rivalry moment yet, you know what I mean. And to 93 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.720 be honest with you, during Rick's time there, and even Tubby's year when 94 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:30.199 he won a national championship in ninety eight, some of Denny's bad teams beat 95 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.680 Kentucky's really good teams. So even whenever I knew they were really good and 96 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.360 we weren't we beat them when I was a young kid, so and I 97 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:40.279 wasn't exposed to it, so like I didn't watch Louisville and Kentucky games when 98 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:43.000 I was a young kid with Kentucky fans. I watched it with my parents 99 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:45.399 and who were you know, diehard Louisver fans, which is why I am. 100 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:49.199 But when I started, you know, going to school and you know, 101 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:53.759 probably like second grade, I think I remember that being the uh you 102 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:57.120 know, the the the age where I realized, you know, I'm a 103 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:00.199 I'm a Louisville fan. Growing up in Bullet County, Kentucky. This was 104 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.399 long before you know, Louisville was cool. Yeah, I mean there weren't. 105 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:09.000 Just to give you an example, you know, the Louisville fan base, 106 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:13.560 I feel like, really exploded with younger people during like the Tom Church 107 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.000 era because Louisville was good in football, they were relevant, they were good 108 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:19.480 in basketball when Rick Patino got here, and you know the other sports, 109 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:24.560 women's basketball and baseball just kind of exploded with the hiring of Dan McDonald and 110 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:27.639 Jeff Walls. So that led to a lot of like for example, in 111 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.600 that area, you know, right outside of Louisville. There's still probably more. 112 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.000 There are more Kentucky fans, but there's a lot more Louisville fans now 113 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.360 than there were when I was a kid, because when I was a young 114 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.399 kid, there really wasn't a whole lot. I mean, Louisville football, 115 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.519 they just they had the ninety one Fiesta Bowl and that was cool, but 116 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:45.439 you know, the history wasn't really there. So when I would wear U 117 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:47.639 of L gear like you, I had a UFL starter jacket. You remember 118 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.240 the starter jacket era? Oh, yes, had a UL starter jacket. 119 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:53.879 We got them for Christmas. I got a Louisville one. My sister got 120 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:58.639 a Charlotte Hornet's one and original, and I would wear that everywhere and I 121 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:00.319 never thought anything of it. But then over time, like I realized, 122 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.639 like you know, Kentucky fans kids my age, like they would give me 123 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:08.959 a hard time about it, and I like didn't. I didn't know why, 124 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.360 Like what's you know, what's going on here? And that's that's when 125 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.879 I realized, like that it's you know, the rivalry is real, Like 126 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:17.959 you you can't mean, I guess you can, but I can't relate to 127 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:20.240 people who'd go both sides. I just can't. I don't. I don't 128 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:23.680 get it, and how I don't know how you can really love one if 129 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:26.279 you like both. That's just me being you know, a sick Oh, 130 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.680 I suppose, because I'm sure there are some that you know, grew up 131 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:31.600 in Kentucky and rooted for Kentucky, but they went to U of L and 132 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:38.399 they graduated. So yet they do have some level of like the ability to 133 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:43.839 to to to like both. But when the games on emotions kick in, 134 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.319 you got to pick a side, and even if you don't want to, 135 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:48.120 you're you're going to. It's gonna happen whether you want to or not. 136 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:53.920 So you know, I realized pretty early that like, I loved Louisville, 137 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:57.519 and then I didn't really in a way, I guess I'm happy that I 138 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.199 realized Kentucky fans were the obnoxious ones and we're in them. Look, both 139 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.399 sides have obnoxious fans, trust me, I know how this works. But 140 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:07.959 I got the heat for just being a Louisville fan from Kentucky fans and it 141 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.680 was all playful. It wasn't like I was bullied or anything like that. 142 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:15.120 But that led to me at an early age, thinking like, the hell 143 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:16.279 with these fans, like they're snobs, Like what do they you know? 144 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.399 What are they worried about? Like? And it also get you know, 145 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.519 and I wouldn't have this rivalry any other way other than Louisville being more competitive 146 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:26.399 in basketball in the last fifteen years, because that's been tough to take and 147 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.319 football too, for being honest, just because they're on a losing streak there 148 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:35.279 too. But both sides claim that, oh, they're so obsessed, why 149 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.039 do you care? What do you care? Why are you so obsessed? 150 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:41.759 When in reality, it's not necessarily an obsession. It's just how rivalries work. 151 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.240 Yeah, your best weekend in the fall is if your football team wins 152 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.720 and your rival loses, of course, and that's just how it works. 153 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:50.879 Like that's it, you know. Again, maybe some are more charged up 154 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:54.039 and into the loss of a rival than others. Right, you should always 155 00:08:54.159 --> 00:09:01.679 prioritize your team. I think that's normal. But the obsession debate that will 156 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.679 never end because really both sides, it's a healthy rivalry if you're if you're 157 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:07.960 keeping up with what your rival's doing to an extent, Right, it's not 158 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.159 obsessions, just how it works. But I got to experience my first side 159 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.799 of the rivalry with me not even caring or thinking about Kentucky because I didn't 160 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:18.320 really know they were a rival, but yet they were worried about me. 161 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.919 Were in that Louisville starter jacket Austin, And I thought, you guys, 162 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.720 I mean, get a come on, was it the red one or the 163 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:26.559 black one? Oh? Okay, red had that? Had it had the 164 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:31.759 not the dunking cardinal, but like the that mid nineties cardinal logo is it's 165 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:33.879 I don't know if people would call it vintage, but you know, the 166 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.799 nineties, it was a long time ago. Yeah, but yeah, I 167 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:43.480 uh, in my my first grade or my second grade teacher she was I 168 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.080 told her like that people you know that, like why are they giving me? 169 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.559 Because she liked U of L as well. She actually had she actually 170 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.799 just graduated and she had classes with some of the basketball players and she would 171 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.879 share stories with me and whatnot. Yeah, and I told her, like, 172 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:58.159 you know, should I take this off? And she was like, 173 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.480 never it off? And I was like, all right, she's on my 174 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.399 side, Yes, let's go. Yeah, good stuff. And you so 175 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.360 how did you get in? Like how did you become this diehard Louisville fan. 176 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.759 Obviously, you know you have roots here, you live here now, 177 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.279 but you just had a lot of your life in Arizona. Yeah. Well, 178 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.120 I just always remember we came down here for our summers, and I 179 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.320 always remember my Uh, I'm going to give a shout out to my pops, 180 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.519 my biological father. He was He always wore every time. They would 181 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.200 always show me pictures of him. He was always in like the Louisville Cardinal. 182 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.080 Well this was a dunking cardinal. Oh yeah, And I can't remember. 183 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.759 I can't trace it back to one day, but I remember always trying 184 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:35.480 to draw it. I was a little kid. I was into art, 185 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.840 and I was always trying to draw it. And I always have problem with 186 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:41.480 trying to make because you know, we're the only bird with teeth, right, 187 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.639 you are smart trying to draw that that teeth part. But I just 188 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:48.919 always thought that that was like one of the cooler things about it because it 189 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:54.399 showed like a fierceness in such a cool logo. And and my stepfather, 190 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.240 on the other hand, was always a big UK fan, so like I 191 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:00.559 for and all my family is. But I think I I just kind of 192 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:03.759 wanted to translate it that way, just because for some reason, I always 193 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.799 liked the red and black combo has always been cool, and just I loved 194 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.879 Louisville and just the city of Louisville living here, and there wasn't I mean, 195 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.840 I guess I can't say there wasn't any Kentucky fans, but there's just 196 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:18.480 a lot more Louisville pride and a lot of people wearing just Louisville that I 197 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.679 was used to. So I just kind of got used to it like that, 198 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.200 and it's deep, but it's not. But I think even as a 199 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:30.759 kid seeing your dad in the dunking Cardinal, it's just the human. It's 200 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.879 it's it's being a human, like you just knew without even thinking about it. 201 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:35.679 Well, that's my team too, because that's my dad's team, like 202 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.039 exactly. I became obsessed with U of L because my dad was a big 203 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.279 fan. My dad became a big fan because his older brother went there, 204 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:46.200 you know, in like the early the late sixties, early seventies. So 205 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:48.720 like maybe not that I don't know if my uncle Wane's that old. I'm 206 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:50.000 sorry, Uncle Wayne, if you're listening, I don't know the exact age, 207 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:54.759 But like my dad, fresh out of high school, was watching his 208 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.840 nephew's, my uncle's kids because they were they were traveling to go watch Denny's 209 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.799 all four teams in the seventies. Like, you know, it was kind 210 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.039 of we were kind of born into it essentially, And another thing that I 211 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:11.600 just find fascinating. And you know, I again, I say it all 212 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:13.879 the time. I wouldn't change anything about this rivalry other than Louisville being a 213 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:18.240 little more competitive in recent years, because that's that's what makes it fun. 214 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.000 Right Like in for a stretch there when Saderfield was the coach in football and 215 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.559 especially when Kenny was the coach here in basketball, we couldn't realistically like be 216 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:28.519 chesty, you know what I mean, Like we could, but like we 217 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.000 didn't believe it. I mean, you would tell yourself you believe it, 218 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.159 but I don't think deep down you did. Now, you know, who 219 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:35.919 knows what's going to happen in basketball. But obviously I feel pretty damn good 220 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.360 about Pat Kelsey as a coach, and Mark Pope will see, but like 221 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.399 he doesn't. Mark Pope's not gonna put any fear in anybody, that's sure, 222 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:46.480 and cal you know, I think he put fear in a lot of 223 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.279 teams, and he put fear in Louisville. But it wasn't because he was 224 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.039 a larger than life successful coach. Despite him, he I mean that is 225 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:56.120 the case. It was because over time, even when we were really good, 226 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.279 we'd lose to him, like no matter what, we just couldn't beat 227 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.320 him. Yeah, and it was, you know, it became like it 228 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:03.480 was just a complex. So with Jeff brom A hate that they lost last 229 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.679 year, that was the worst. I mean, I it really didn't change 230 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.320 the trajectory of anybody's season. I mean, Louisville would have not They wouldn't 231 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:13.879 have been in any different situation had they beat Kentucky because at the end of 232 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.679 the day, they were never going to put Florida State in there regardless. 233 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.679 So if Louisville would have beat Kentucky but then lost to Florida State in the 234 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.679 AEC Championship, I don't think anything changes. I don't think Florida State gets 235 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.000 the bump because they beat Louisville, who then beat Kentucky. But it's still 236 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.919 a terrible like it won't be one that I remember forever because that was still 237 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:33.399 a ten win season that got you the a SEC Championship game. So I 238 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.679 feel like it was success a successful year, but of all years, given 239 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.799 the circumstances in the scenario, I feel like that was, from what I 240 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.200 can tell, the worst loss Louisvel's ever taken to Kentucky. But again, 241 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.919 now with Jeff Brom here, it's not like I'm looking at Stoops's record in 242 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.240 the last six years and feeling less confident Jeff Brom's coaching that game one time, 243 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:52.159 you know what I mean. Like, it's not as if, I 244 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:56.720 mean, let's be real, Stoops was able to alpha Scott Sadderfield like he 245 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:58.879 just did. And you know, I don't know how many wins Jeff's gonna 246 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:03.799 get against Oops. Hopefully there are many. But Louisville is clearly on a 247 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.120 different planet now that they have Jeff Brahm as their coach. So I wouldn't 248 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.960 change anything about the rivalry other than Louisville having some success. But one of 249 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.720 the things that I've that I've learned over the years is there's a lot of 250 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:22.360 fans across you know, especially the Louisville area where they're the black sheet. 251 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:28.919 Right. They have five brothers or you know, seven brothers and sisters collectively 252 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.519 and their mom and dad big Kentucky fans, all their siblings big Kentucky fans. 253 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:37.200 But they chose to be well, you know, I'm gonna I'm you 254 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:39.120 know, it's what you like to do. You like to you like to 255 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.600 rib your siblings, right, and you know, and you know, fight 256 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:45.399 with your siblings, play fight, you know that kind of stuff. And 257 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:50.360 I know some of the most diehard Louisville fans that I've met will share the 258 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.639 fact that they really became a diehard Louisville fan because they just wanted to be 259 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.720 different than everybody else in their family. And I mean, it's one thing 260 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:03.120 going back and forth with obnoxious fan on the other side that you just casually 261 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.440 know that you work with that maybe you know they're an acquaintance or even just 262 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:13.559 a friend if it's your brother or your sister, like you're you probably when 263 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.279 you think of the bad side of the rival, you probably think of those 264 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.399 knockdown, drag out fights. And I don't mean necessarily physically, but I'm 265 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:24.759 sure there are plenty of people listening right now, and I'm not exaggerating. 266 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:28.679 There are people listening right now that have been in a physical altercation hopefully nothing 267 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:31.879 serious, as you know, with somebody because of the rivalry, Like that's 268 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.960 not crazy. We had two dudes at the dialysis center in Georgetown, Kentucky, 269 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:41.519 where law enforcement was called because they got into a fistfight over the rivalry. 270 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:45.120 And they're at that dialysis clinic fighting for their life seemingly. Yeah. 271 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:48.039 Literally, I mean that's what we do and I do if there's ever one 272 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:56.960 and I mean one collective agreement among the two sides is that when it comes 273 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:02.320 to ranking the basketball rivalries. And I know I've given this take many times, 274 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:04.960 why not once more since we're talking about it, there's no debate when 275 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:10.039 it comes to the best rivalry in college basketball. When it comes to like 276 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:14.360 success in his history, it's Duke Carolina. I mean, they've both been 277 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.919 great forever, seemingly. They have a bunch of championships, and they're always 278 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:22.120 competitive. I mean a few years ago, this was a stat that I 279 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.919 thought was made up, but it wasn't. They played, you know, 280 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:30.279 countless times, and I think at that point one school had like a one 281 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.919 or two game lead in the all time series. But if you just add 282 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:40.279 up the total scores in all those games combined, it was tied like that 283 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:44.679 speaks to how competitive those juggernauts of college basketball have been. So I have 284 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:48.720 no argument as far as the best rivalry, as far as a clear rival 285 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.240 that has history, tradition, and success. But to me, and again 286 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.600 this is where I'm biased, a rivalry is all about fans. At the 287 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.799 college level, you come and you go as coaches and players. A lot 288 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:02.639 of the players that that come there to play for a school that has a 289 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.319 heated rival they didn't grow up around it. They may have heard of it, 290 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.240 they may know it, but you're not really in it till you're in 291 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:11.720 it. So I think fans make a rivalry. There wouldn't be a rivalry 292 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:15.359 without it, at least not to that extent. And if you live in 293 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.480 Louisville, because I think it's different here in Louisville, Kentucky. The majority 294 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.640 of this state Kentucky fans. Now, there's Louisville fans spread out throughout the 295 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.279 state and they're really passionate too. But in Louisville there's so many on both 296 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:30.319 sides, so many and we all coexist together. So I think to truly 297 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:34.440 understand and feel what this rivalry is, you got to be in Louisville, 298 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:37.640 because there's no other place where you have this many that are all together. 299 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:41.680 And I don't know if it's fifty to fifty, sixty forty, I don't 300 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:44.559 know. I don't care. But you know, some Louisville fans get really 301 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.039 defensive when you mentioned that, because it's normally UK everywhere else. Yeah, 302 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:51.680 outside the city. Yeah, And I would say I choose to believe there 303 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:53.960 are more Louisville fans in this city than there are Kentucky fans. But I 304 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:56.720 don't know that for sure. And I'm not a Louisville fan that's going to 305 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:00.200 act like, oh, there's no way, no, I believe it. 306 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.359 Trust me. There's UK fans everywhere, and there's a lot of them here 307 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:04.880 in Louisville. So because you go to work every day and you probably you 308 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:08.680 know, after they play in basketball, if your team loses, you're you're 309 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.519 you're not looking forward to going to work that next day to take to you 310 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.680 know, to teach, to take your medicine. And if you are on 311 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.200 the winning side, you can't wait to go to work so you can rub 312 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:22.599 it in your colleague's face that you know your team won and you know I 313 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:29.759 rivalries I think are one of, if not the best things that come with 314 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:30.640 sports, and there's a lot of great things to come with sports. But 315 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.680 you know, if if Louisville and Kentucky end up not playing each other in 316 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.359 football anymore, which I don't know if that's going to happen, but if 317 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:44.240 the SEC does expand to nine, I mean Stoops and Barnhardt have essentially said 318 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:48.079 that, yeah, they would have to do some real, real, uh 319 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:49.960 you know, soul searching essentially to see if they're if they're going to be 320 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:53.440 brave enough to continue to play their rival, which that is, if that 321 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.119 happens, which I choose to not believe that. I choose to believe that 322 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.839 it won't ever happen. But if Kentucky it does not schedule Leivelle anymore because 323 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:06.519 they have to play nine SEC games, that I mean, that would be 324 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:10.400 because Kentucky fans don't want to not play Louisville. Why, I mean, 325 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.720 they're not scared. I mean, I don't know if their arrogance is justified, 326 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:15.960 but they have won this matchup quite a bit in football in recent years, 327 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:21.480 right, and let's be real, last year. I don't know how 328 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:25.160 they would define their season, meaning Kentucky, but they hated their team when 329 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:27.440 louisvill played them last year. You remember how lifeless Kentucky football fans became that 330 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:30.880 week, and then sure enough, they won, and it changed. I 331 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:33.160 think how a lot of them view their season. I'm not claiming that they're 332 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.319 acting like they did something substantial and crazy, but they were having a very 333 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.839 underwhelming season. Their coach told them to pony up and pay more money or 334 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:45.799 basically stop bitching about us losing to Georgia. They lost to a bad South 335 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.279 Carolina team, like they were having a very They were a very underwhelming year 336 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.000 based off expectations, and then they beat Louisville, a top ten team, 337 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:56.319 their rival on the road, and it gave them some good feels. If 338 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.559 you beat you know, let's just say you beat I don't know. Let's 339 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:06.799 say let's say Missouri was that last game on your schedule, and they were 340 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:10.519 they were number, you know, eleven or twelve in the country, and 341 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:12.319 you were having a tough year and you won. Clearly, it'd still be 342 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:15.640 a big win and a nice way to finish up your regular season, but 343 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:21.039 you wouldn't feel the same as you did when you beat your rival. Like, 344 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:23.640 that's why rivalry matchups, It's one of the many reasons while rivalry matchups 345 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:30.880 are are awesome and they're you know, I just I can't imagine Kentucky deciding 346 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:34.039 to not play it, and you know, and who you looking out for, 347 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.400 like your fans would you know? They not, they wouldn't revolt, 348 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.160 they wouldn't stop cheering for you, but like it would be just the lamest 349 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:44.160 thing ever. All right, let's do this. Let's get a quick time 350 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:45.240 out out of the way. We'll come back on the other side, reset 351 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.720 some things, and then we'll talk. We'll talk some TV dads. We're 352 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.119 gonna do a little TV dad draft here with Father's Day coming up, so 353 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:57.680 stick with us right here on Sports Talk seven ninety Now back to coffee and 354 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:04.559 Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day, Will Smith easily 355 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.759 one of the corniest rappers of all time, but still good, right, 356 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:12.680 like still good, very clean too, right? Oh yeah, like his 357 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:15.440 hits, I mean I didn't even I didn't know they were corny when I 358 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.680 was a kid because I was a kid. But like he had, you 359 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:22.440 know, he had very wholesome hip hop. Yeah, it's like that one 360 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:25.200 right there. Yeah, it's really good, just the two of us and 361 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:29.119 you know, just uh my one of my goats to karaoke songs is the 362 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:32.799 Fresh Prince of bel Air theme song. Okay, that really gets the crowd 363 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:37.039 high up spot. Yeah, it's every everyone knows about it, right. 364 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:40.559 I do like the uh, I do like little Carlton dance and I'm up 365 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.319 there. I get everybody involved, so like it's, uh, there's more 366 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:47.960 to the song than just like the twenty seconds that everyone knows about, Like 367 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:49.759 it's a whole song that Will Smith does. I gotta be honest with you, 368 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.240 I'm not sure I knew that. Oh really, yeah, there's everybody 369 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:56.720 knows that the original like the opening, but there's a couple couple of different 370 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.200 choruses in there, and that's usually when they played at the party, that's 371 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.000 when everyone stops because I don't know that part. I've never karaoke before, 372 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.039 never carryoke, never even been in a position to where like I thought about 373 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:11.440 it or I was asked or I was with somebody who did. I've been 374 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.880 to karaoke bars and they're fun, and I've been, you know there with 375 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:18.559 friends who did in fact get on stage. But uh, yeah, I 376 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:22.119 uh never, I've never never been in that position, but I've been. 377 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:25.400 I've been. I'm not sure what I would do recently. Well, you 378 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:30.400 can let's see if I mean, I mean something to where like I wouldn't 379 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.799 really have to like truly expose that I can't sing right, and that also 380 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:37.200 it would be a well known enough song and a popular enough song to where 381 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.319 others would sing along with everyone else to where they could kind of drowned out 382 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.119 how bad I would be at singing. That's usually my key because when you 383 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.400 get up to karaoke kind of there are the two people that just kind of 384 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.640 know that they suck, and then there's someone that really tries to kill it, 385 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:55.119 which I don't. I don't mind that too, but like, I'm 386 00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:57.359 not trying. I'm not looking for a serious performance. I'm just looking for 387 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.440 you to sing, because by that time, you're like and and you're just 388 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:04.920 you're just having a good time. I'm ever doing karaoke in my life, 389 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:07.680 which I probably never will, but there's no scenario I would ever do it 390 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:12.359 if I wasn't drunk ye about to be honest, absolutely, And I've been 391 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.960 to like I've been to places that you know, Hey, it's karaoke night 392 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:19.839 instead of live music, it's karaoke night, or Hey, we're gonna have 393 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:23.720 karaoke here at this party, and it's all, you know, not serious, 394 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:26.680 it's kind of whatever. And you have some people that will participate and 395 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.599 you're like, wow, they can actually sing pretty good, and then you 396 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:32.440 know some people who are terrible, but it's still fun and funny. I 397 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:37.599 went to is it a Keikos? Yes sets on Bar Center, So I've 398 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.200 been there a couple of times, and that to me is like that's that's 399 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:42.920 that's what they do, right, Like, yeah, that's that's their thing. 400 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:48.720 So I was blown away by how good Like every five people that would 401 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:51.880 that would be up there on stage doing karaoke at Akikos when we went, 402 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:55.640 four of them would be phenomenal, and like that's why they come, because 403 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:56.559 they enjoy singing and they're good at it. And now there'd be one that 404 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:02.559 was either like not very good or were just comically bad and just drunk and 405 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:03.440 you know, having fun, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but 406 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.279 it was a little intimidating being there and like knowing there's talent there, like 407 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:11.720 people who literally like they're there to show off essentially and have fun of course, 408 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.200 because you know, I'm assuming if you can sing and you're good at 409 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:15.880 it, something you enjoy doing. Yeah, there's there's a new bar. 410 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:19.440 I want to give a shout out. It's called ah It's called Mickey's off 411 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:25.359 Frankfurt Avenue and they're actually a like a Korean restaurant, McKee's. They have 412 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:27.599 some really good raman by the way, and it's like cool. They have 413 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:34.000 updated music, and it's like it's it's because usually you go to some places 414 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.279 they'll just have like the machine Box that really doesn't have much probably hasn't been 415 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.559 updated technologically since like nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, I went to one. 416 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:44.920 A couple of weeks ago. Was my co host, Billy's last last day 417 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.680 because he moved up to he moved out home right, moved back home to 418 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:52.039 Northern Kentucky and we went up there and it's this guy was looking it up 419 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:56.359 on YouTube, the DJ and then there was like YouTube ads. It was 420 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.799 on Amateur Hour. I embarrassed myself because I wanted to sing Fresh Prince and 421 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.759 I'm like, nah, dog, I don't need the words to that. 422 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.960 I don't need the words. It turns out I did because you just let 423 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:07.720 me, just let me go to work, is what you were talking. 424 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.359 Just well, I fumbled the bag pretty bad, but you know I still 425 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:15.200 need the visual cues, you know, like to come in the three two 426 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.720 one or the little circle that's closing, let me know when to pop on. 427 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.039 And this this guy was just looking them up like fresh Prince karaoke YouTube. 428 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.039 Well, I will say this, I'll never see karaoke in my life, 429 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.720 I'm sure, and if I do again, it would be me just 430 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:34.079 being insanely intoxicated. Yeah, but there's a level of if you are bad, 431 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.559 like no big deal because it's karaoke, you know what I mean. 432 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.160 Like you weren't there trying to audition for American Idol, So like just that's 433 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:45.880 where karaoke can be fun is because anybody who's up there, they're not there 434 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.240 because they think they're going to be famous. They're there to, you know, 435 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:49.920 have fun. And if they think, you know whatever. Uh. 436 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:55.880 This is probably been years since I saw it, but and I don't I 437 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:57.880 don't know why I thought it was so funny. But I've also seen many 438 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:00.720 other videos since I saw the first time. But people who would go to 439 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:07.240 a tequila or to go to karaoke bar and do the tequila song that only 440 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.119 has that word in it. Dona, You just stand up on stage, 441 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.279 Dona, nah Tequila. That's all you have to do is wait for that. 442 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.039 Actually, actually that would probably be my my karaoke song because that seems 443 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:22.720 like you would kill that. Yeah, it's safe and although others may see 444 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.400 it as a stale, lame attempt to be funny, there'll be at least 445 00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:26.880 a few people there that hadn't seen that done before, and they would think 446 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.960 it was really funny. Right, all right, let's get into it. 447 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:33.000 Let's get into the serious stuff. We're gonna talk TV dads. Father's Day 448 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.160 coming up here on Sunday. Happy Father's Date, all the dad's out there. 449 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:38.799 I'm looking forward to Father's Day for a variety of reasons. I'm a 450 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:42.240 father myself, looking forward to hanging out with the kids. It may not 451 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.400 be something they think of, but I'm sure their mom's gonna tell them. 452 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.359 They'd be really nice to me and love on me and give me hugs and 453 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.400 tell me I'm great, which you know, I thank you, I'm I'm 454 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:53.319 I'm fine with that if that's what they want to do. I'm also going 455 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.839 to hang out with my dad, my stepdad and you know, have a 456 00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:02.839 good Father's Day and tea. The dads, I feel like, have left 457 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:07.359 a bigger imprint on you as somebody who grew up watching certain shows than maybe 458 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.240 the TV moms. Maybe that's just me being biased because I'm I'm a dude, 459 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.839 I'm a dad, but uh, I think there's been some phenomenal TV 460 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.119 dads over the years. And what we're gonna do here is we're gonna do 461 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:22.400 a TV dad draft where three rounds, I'll draft a TV dad, Austin 462 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:25.079 will draft one, and we'll we'll see you know where we end up. 463 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:26.720 I'll let you start. You get the first overall pick. Are you going 464 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.720 to start? Yeah? I wish I had some NFL the music, and 465 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.839 then I'm gonna have to go with I hope I'm not sniping this from you, 466 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.119 But the show I just mentioned, Fresh Prince of bel Air, I 467 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:41.640 might have to go Uncle Phil. I mean it was called Uncle Phil, 468 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.599 but Philip Banks. That's one of the I love that show growing up. 469 00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:49.279 It was always on, like you talked about quintessential nineties, it was him 470 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.839 a very supportive dad. Also, if we're just being you know, we're 471 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.400 just being crass here. Incredibly rich. You know, he wanted the best 472 00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.920 out of all of his kids, and you know he took he took in 473 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.680 Will. He was a great character in TV history, h Uncle Phil and 474 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.359 uh, you got to see him be a father to of course, you 475 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.279 know, Carlton and what was Carlson's sister's name, Hillary, Hillary, Yeah, 476 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.240 and then of course also be a father figure. But obviously a different 477 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:19.839 situation with Will. So that's a good one. I'm gonna go with Carl 478 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:25.359 Winslow. Family Matters, Yeah, love. Family Matters was my jam a 479 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.839 little before my time. And and you know, everybody called it the Erkele 480 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:32.599 Show and just thought of Erkele, and Erkele was great. But Carl Winslow 481 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.440 to me, I mean, gotta be honest with you, I kind of 482 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.440 feel like you raised me, Austin. I mean, he was just a 483 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.960 he was a law enforcement officer living in Chicago, you know, help protect 484 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:47.599 and serve the great community of Chicago. Had had a few kids and had 485 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.720 to deal with a you know, a nosy neighbor and Steve Erkele, and 486 00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:55.119 I just felt like Carl Winslow was like the ultimate badass. And I always 487 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:57.960 felt like when watching that show, he stood out to me to be a 488 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:02.799 great father. So yeah, shout out, Klara Winslow, shout out. 489 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.839 So we're doing a snake draft. You're going again or back to back to 490 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.079 you. Okay, I got I got one that I feel its kind of 491 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.559 forgotten about. But I'm gonna go Red Foreman number the school, old school 492 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.640 Red Forman. Now we talked about you know, Red Forman didn't take no 493 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:21.000 issh right. Red Foreman wanted foots and asses. He was very stern. 494 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:22.599 He didn't want you to a loser. Yeah, that was that was his 495 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:26.079 brand. He didn't he didn't want you to be a loser and just you 496 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:27.640 know, just kind of smoke away in his basement. He wanted something out 497 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.119 of you. He was, you know, but he also still loved you 498 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:32.440 at the end of the day. At the end of the day, he 499 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:33.680 still loved Derek. He was still there for him. But you know, 500 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.519 he he let him know a lot of the times, how not proud of 501 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.519 his actions and that in that seventies show. You know a lot of us 502 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.200 who grew up not in the seventies, we weren't alive then you got us. 503 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.880 I mean, I don't think this is just the back in my day 504 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:49.160 crowd. You know, we were tough on kids, but like, I 505 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.279 think there's some truth to that. Like I think his you know, not 506 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.279 taking any you know what and being kind of a hard ass. It kind 507 00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.920 of gave us a sense for what it would have been like to you know, 508 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.440 grow up in that time. Yeah, I mean that show, when 509 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.400 did that come? I mean that show was really popular in what the early 510 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:08.319 two thousands, I think like maybe mid to late nineties, early two thousands, 511 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:11.759 because I remember watching in the nineties. That sounds about right. So 512 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:12.160 yeah, that's a good one. And I like, you know, I 513 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.920 wouldn't expecting you to go there, but that's that's a good one. I 514 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.599 grew up. That was my thing. We alwayd that came on that it 515 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.759 was like entertainment Tonight usually on after that. I just remember sitting down and 516 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:26.119 having supper that's what was called in the nineties supper, and then just watching 517 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.599 that in red form. And he always made my dad laugh, so like 518 00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.000 it was he was just it was just a stern headed dude. I'm gonna 519 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.920 go my second pick, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Frank Costanza 520 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:44.119 in Sinfeld because I think Frank Costanza is one of, if not the best 521 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.519 characters ever in television. I mean interest It's a little bit of a stretch 522 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.640 because I think George Costanza, his son, is probably the best character I've 523 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.519 ever seen in a television show. But Frank so good, so funny, 524 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.960 and just an all. I mean, I can't relate as if, like 525 00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.519 man, I wish he was my dad. He was a you know, 526 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.440 because there are plenty of things that happened in Seinfeld that make you think that 527 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.160 maybe he's not the best father, but he is a TV dad and he's 528 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.359 one of my favorite people ever on television. Jerry still are r I P 529 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.000 and I still will. I'll argue this with anybody. Not the exact same, 530 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:22.960 but almost the exact same character. Frankestanza and when he was Arthur Arthur 531 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.200 spoon Spooner and King a Queens, I mean a little bit of a difference, 532 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.640 but almost the same character. People and people say the same thing, 533 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.920 like, honestly, Carry and Doug were great effidence, But I'm telling you 534 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.640 Arthur was probably the funniest guy on the show. Yeah, when he comes 535 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.119 along that's when the things start to pick up a little bit, because it's 536 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:41.799 it's hits antics that they have to live up. Yea, and how Doug 537 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:48.559 gets pissed off his outbursts and just like insanely child he's more of a childish 538 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.200 character in King of Queens, but in Seinfeld like the I mean, it's 539 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:53.519 just it's the exact same. So right, that's what I'm going with. 540 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:57.200 Who's Who's your last one? This one is a little bit tough because I 541 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.359 kind of want to go cartoon character. But as I'm just looking up just 542 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:05.680 at my big board right now, I don't I don't know if just man, 543 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:10.319 I I guess, I guess I'm gonna go with Phil Dunphy. Okay, 544 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.119 I don't know. If I don't know, if you've ever watched Modern 545 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.200 Fans. Yeah, I'm not a Minern Family guy, but I know the 546 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.039 show and I know exactly who you're talking about. The show kind of died 547 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.480 off for me once everybody kind of like, uh, grew up and outgrew 548 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.079 their roles a little bit in my opinion, But he is like the perfect 549 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.880 You got two of the kind of Stern fathers and you just got him, 550 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.519 who just kind of wants to be your friend. Right, He's like he 551 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.319 slips on a banana peel. Sometimes his delivery sometimes isn't there, and he 552 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.960 just he tries to be too cool. But once again, if I'm a 553 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:42.839 little money hungry, they always seem to have like a really very wealthy family. 554 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.079 He does well for his job, and I like Phil Dunphy, I 555 00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:51.319 can I it is quintessential Dad jokes with him and he just is a meme. 556 00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.039 So the brand is Dad. Yeah, he's a dad brand. Yeah, 557 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:54.920 all right, my last one, I'm gonna try to be quicker because 558 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.240 no, we've got to get to a quick break. This is probably not 559 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.079 when anybody would would would be expecting, and some may not even know who 560 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:05.359 this is if you haven't watched the Netflix show Ozark. But Marty Bird who's 561 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.799 played by Jason Bateman, and I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you 562 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:09.279 why, Well you should watch it, but I'll tell you why Marty Bird 563 00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:15.359 is up there for me, talk about a selfless dad. Show starts with 564 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:21.440 him finding out his wife is having an affair and the beginning the beginning of 565 00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.400 that show. Okay, you have to watch it, Austin. It's a 566 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.759 wild sex scene. Just gonna say that. But his wife's his wife's cheating 567 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.839 on him. She's about to run off and abandon their entire family with some 568 00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:37.680 dude she works with. And yet in the end he ends up realizing that 569 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.119 while that's happening, his business associate that he works with is involved with the 570 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.119 Mexican cartel, and all throughout the show, which is great, by the 571 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.720 way, Marty Bird is just keeping the family together. Oh, we gotta 572 00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:51.599 we gotta work with a Mexican cartel to keep the family alive. I guess 573 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:52.839 that's what I'm gonna have to do. My wife was cheating on me. 574 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.480 You know, she sucks, But you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna ride 575 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.279 it out with her because I love the kids, and his kids were not 576 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.559 good kids in the show, So Marty Byrd. By the way, Jason 577 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:05.680 Bateman's great, but Marty Byrd is It's an off the wall pick for me. 578 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.559 But I feel like he was. He was a selfless dude that I 579 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:12.599 know as a I mean, you never know if you do what he did 580 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.280 unless you're in that situation, and God willing, hopefully I never will be. 581 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:17.800 But yeah, good stuff. Do you have any honorable mentions, any 582 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.920 last second honorable mentions. We still have another segment, right, it's gonna 583 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.400 be brief. Yes, I've got because I've got I've got two honorable mentions. 584 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.000 I want to mention on the other side. So we'll get to a 585 00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:31.599 quick break, don't go anywhere. If we had more time than just a 586 00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:35.440 minute, I would let this ride because this is I mean, this takes 587 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.760 me back. Man Classic my one of my favorite shows. And yes I'm 588 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:42.400 biased, but also a great, great theme song for a television show in 589 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.480 the nineties. But you asked me if I had any honorable mentions, and 590 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.119 I don't. I mean, there's plenty of other great TV dads that did 591 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:52.440 not again did not get included in our six picks collectively. But I always 592 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.719 find it fascinating that some of like the father figure fatherly advice. I guess 593 00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.280 it's the best way to describe it. From some TV shows growing up, 594 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:01.840 were characters that did not play a father I'm sure they could have been, 595 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:07.039 but like mister Belding and Saved by the Bell, the Principal, mister Feenie 596 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.039 also a principal who was the neighbor of Eric Matthews, Yeah. And then 597 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:15.960 Wilson, the guy who lived next to Tim Taylor in home improvement who never 598 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.519 saw we never saw his face, but he gave a lot of fatherly advice 599 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.639 to everybody. Yeah, so good stuff, all right, Happy Father's Day 600 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.360 everybody. Austin, thank you so much for helping out this week. Baby, 601 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.719 you my friend. I appreciate you a lot of fun. See you 602 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.760 guys on Monday. Take care. You're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffe