WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.000 Hi. My name is Tom Welling. I played Clark Kent on Smallville and 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:50.880 you are listening to Always Hold On to Smallville. Welcome to Always Will One 3 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:54.000 to Smallville. In this podcast, we talked about each and every episode of 4 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:57.359 the Young Superman Show. Then we'rep from two thousand and one to twenty eleven 5 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.399 on WB and the CW. I'm your host, Zach Morning. I'm joined 6 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:04.159 by mister Daniel Prue. What's up, Daniel, how's it going. It's 7 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.760 been a hot minute since, uh we've been on the on the mics together. 8 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.000 But it's good to be back. It has been a while, hasn't 9 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:15.359 it. Now we've settled in for for you to come on the show. 10 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:18.439 When Clark gets new powers. Yeah, and I guess he hasn't gotten a 11 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.359 new one in quite some time. It seems. It's got one in new 12 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.239 one in a while, it seems. And this one's only temporary, it 13 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:27.239 seems. It's funny this. So we're talking about echo here, and I 14 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:32.519 remember, way back like early Smallville, like season one or two, they 15 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:34.840 interviewed the producers I think was Alan Miles. We're talking and they're like, 16 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:41.480 yeah, superpowers are like puberty, so there could be an episode where Clark 17 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:44.799 comes downstairs and he's great and we can have some fun with that, like 18 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.280 where it's a temporary thing. I'm like, Okay, that might have been 19 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:51.359 fun. And I could see like early more lighthearted Smallville doing something like that, 20 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:53.519 never what I expect him to do something like that, you know, 21 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:57.000 deep in deep in the show and then seriousness of the later seasons. I 22 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.599 don't know, what do you think about that? Would you have liked an 23 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:02.760 episode like that per se like we're, yeah, something out of left field, 24 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:06.159 something that's not what we would expect. Yeah, I mean I think 25 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.319 that would have been fine for an episode, and it definitely especially you know 26 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:13.000 early on if you sort of broke up the freak of the week with just 27 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.840 sort of like Clark now has to deal like you said, if he's green 28 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:17.439 or you know, he has three feet or something like you're like, what 29 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:22.120 would you And if it's just a temporary thing, I think that could have 30 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:25.039 been fun. Obviously that's not what's happened here. But no, this is 31 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:30.319 where something that's that sounds so much like a super boy like Silver Age comics 32 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:34.280 or something like oh you get third foot? Ors liked something like that that 33 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:37.599 would I don't know that that's not I don't know. I don't think that 34 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:39.240 although that that kind of whimsy might have fit. More like they had a 35 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:43.039 lot of fun with heat vision and even X ray vision and stuff like that. 36 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:44.960 That had some fun. Even when he got the super breath, it 37 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.520 was like there was fun things about it, right, and they always had 38 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.479 it good. They always had fun when you got the new powers. And 39 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.120 I think, I don't know, even something something like that, like it's 40 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:57.599 the same reason they changed the Red Kryptonite, you know, like in the 41 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:00.439 comics, Red Kryptonite does something crazy. You every now he's an aunt or 42 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:05.000 something like that, stumb we're not doing that. It's effective emotions. They 43 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.159 probably looked at all that like okay, let's let's not do anything like that. 44 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:10.360 So then we get this new power, which is mind reading, which 45 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:15.439 is interesting power for Superman to have. He has so many powers, as 46 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:17.360 we know. I'm glad that this is not one of them because at that 47 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.319 point, like who needs anyone else like that, like Martian Man Hunter, 48 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:23.960 Like Martian Man Hunter can do mind stuff and Superman can't. And that's like 49 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:28.039 a big like a big thing, and he can pade through stuff too right, 50 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:30.960 So like that to me, like the mental stuff, I'm glad Superman 51 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:34.800 doesn't have that ability on the regular, you know. Yeah, when I 52 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:37.159 was watching the episode, it was so funny to me because I was like, 53 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:42.039 I don't like this because it's so weird because it like it seems like 54 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:45.560 a really inconstant almost like you know, compared to his strength and his speed 55 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:47.639 and is in vulnerability. It's not that big of a deal, but in 56 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:52.240 a weird way to me, it like made him too powerful, like there 57 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:53.800 was nothing to stop him from like you said, like just kind of you 58 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:58.240 wouldn't need anybody at that point. You can just like do whatever he wants. 59 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.759 I don't know why that tips this yels for me, but I was 60 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:03.159 like, I'm glad this isn't like a thing he normally has. Yeah, 61 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:06.479 you know, this isn't like you know, in the anywhere in the comics 62 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:11.319 or any other shows or anything like that. But I'm I just I was 63 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.280 like, Okay, but then they do have a little bit of fun with 64 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:15.560 her, of course lowis and stuff, but right it almost kind of feels 65 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:20.360 pointless. We'll probably talk about it, we'll get you know. You said 66 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:21.680 that, and I thought about it too. I was like, are there 67 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:26.439 any other versions of Superman or comic books? Like, I don't know, 68 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:29.160 right, there's eighty five years of com books. I'm sure sure there was 69 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:32.240 some issues somewhere they might have tried, probably probably some silver righted Superboy story. 70 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.839 I know on Lois and Clark, like in like the fourth season when 71 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:42.160 other Kryptonians showed up, they did some mental like telepathy stuff. And I'm 72 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.319 I'm no Lowis and Clark scholar. I'll leave that to Matt SRICKX, but 73 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:46.879 I know they did they sits. I'm like, oh, well, the 74 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:50.279 Kryptonians do that with each other. I'm like, okay, I guess that's 75 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:55.319 fine. I guess for if they were gonna do it like for each other 76 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:57.800 or if they really wanted to go that route. But that's as far as 77 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.639 I as I know, they've ever done anything like that. Was Man because 78 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.759 like people have enough, he's a challenging enough character for people, right without 79 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:06.959 him solving every problem, and like you said, like this, he can 80 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:12.399 he can find any answer right, get any truth right. So it's it's 81 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:14.639 it's smart to not have him do this, timpery. But well we can 82 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.639 get in the weeds of this Bay. We're here in season nine, Daniel, 83 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.800 what are your feelings here in the in the stretch run, here, 84 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:24.600 we're in the we're in the last phase, or the Metropolis years. We're 85 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:28.240 in season nine. What are your thoughts on this era of the show? 86 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:30.040 Well, I, you know, initially, when I when I was first 87 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.279 watching the show, I only watched until I think season five or six, 88 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:38.439 so I want to say, and it didn't I didn't come back until goodness, 89 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.319 years and years later. I've actually only watched that the back half of 90 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:45.560 the show once. So, uh, picking this up to watch this episode 91 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:49.199 was interesting because I'm like, I forgot Tessa was a character, and oh, 92 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:53.759 I don't remember how Lex died. And also and so there's like there's 93 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.079 all these threads in the episode, and I'm like, I kind of had 94 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:58.399 to do a bunch of research just because it's been so you know, it's 95 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.800 been a few years since I've done my full watch the previously on Smallville. 96 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:05.519 Didn't prepare you first, Well, I get Clark's matt At I'm not like 97 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:11.360 at Oliver, uh, and uh, but I don't I just don't remember 98 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.480 was he actually responsible for the death of Lex. He was he was he 99 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.720 he uh, well he framed toy Matt. Well we'll talk. We'll talk 100 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:20.759 about the little little so SOT conversation here. But but yeah, this is 101 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:26.160 I can only imagine like you thrown into something like this is, especially being 102 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.600 unfamiliar with it, even I who loves season nine and I ranked season nine 103 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:33.279 is one of my favorite seasons. That the whole Oliver test subplot here, 104 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:36.680 I was like this, I have no memory of this, like even me, 105 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.399 because I feel like they they kind of in these first batch of episodes 106 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:44.120 they kind of did the same sort of thing with all of it, like, 107 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:46.959 oh man, he's depressed and drinking and sad about some stuff that happened, 108 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.759 and and anyway, it all just kind of blurred together for me, 109 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:54.240 no pun intended, blurred together. Yeah, no, that will be fun. 110 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:56.959 It's it's it's certainly a different vibe. But I think at this point 111 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.879 it was necessary for the show to change it's approached because I mean, how 112 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:03.800 how long can then? That's why those those college dropout youres like, oh, 113 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:05.879 I'm kind of dragged on. It's like, what you're still living on 114 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:10.079 the farm, Alna is still around. You're not gonna marry or so what 115 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:13.199 are we doing? Like, you know, it's the show. It kind 116 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:15.199 of rebooted itself in season eight, and then it like kind of rebooted itself 117 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:18.000 again almost in season nine because he's the blur now it's a whole other thing 118 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:21.120 when he's running around that's on his chests and stuff. So anyway, it's 119 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:26.000 one of my favorite eras, and it's fun to revisit, and I you 120 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:28.079 know, I haven't as much as I enjoyed it, I haven't rewatched it 121 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.240 much as much either because just by the nature of it coming near the end 122 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.519 of the show. Yeah, you know, in those early years, you 123 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.399 get to DVDs, you watch them and they becoming favorite episodes over and now, 124 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:38.920 and then it becomes so much and it's like, well, I'm just 125 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.800 gonna wait for the next episode, and then the show's over and then like, 126 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.240 well I'll do this podcast and I'll go back to the beginning. So's 127 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:46.879 I really haven't. I've tried not to like watch ahead or anything other than 128 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.199 if I'm doing like a commentary on the Patreon or something like that. Like, 129 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:53.079 other than that, I don't like randomly watch ahead because I want to 130 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.839 come to these relatively fresh, because it's so fun to not even remember stuff, 131 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:00.759 which we'll talk about in our conversation here, So anyway, let's get 132 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:09.480 into it then Echo. Well, no one has the right to take the 133 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:15.040 law into their own hands, not even the blur don't try to run or 134 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:20.720 you will die. Smallville All new episode on its new night Friday at eight 135 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:28.439 seventh Central. Echo is the fourth episode of Smallville's ninth season. It aired 136 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.480 on October sixteenth, two thousand and nine. Was written by Ryan Q. 137 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:37.519 Miller and directed by Wayne Rose. A couple notes there, Brian Q Miller 138 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.799 goes on to write the Smallville season eleven combooks because there are also the comic 139 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.440 writers and they worked on smallvill so perfect person to write those. And I 140 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.279 looked up Wayne Rose. I'm like, that name does not look familiar to 141 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.080 me. And this is the only episode they directed of Smallville, directed a 142 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:56.159 whole lot of Bowstar Galactica. Oh all right, one episode of Smallville though, 143 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:03.440 and then nine episodes of Power Rangers Ninja Storm. Ok, there you 144 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.639 go. Is Power Rangers also filmed in Canada? You know that's a good 145 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:13.600 question. In the two thousands of apparently Power Rangers Ninja Storm a series that 146 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.840 I am not familiar with, of Power Rangers in the early two thousands. 147 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.759 They probably did shoot that the the the non Power Ranger stuff, because you 148 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.360 know they ship that out to America. All that, all the Superhos stuff 149 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:28.919 shot in Japan, and then they put the I don't know the quote unquote 150 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:37.879 human the Senti stuff in Japan, and then the rest of the stuff when 151 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:43.039 they're hanging out of the juice bar, that's that's where they should. They 152 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.960 probably were shooting in Canada, and he probably was a Canadian director, knowing 153 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.639 that a lot of those CW shows as well shot out there, So that 154 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.360 is probably why. So what we're doing here in this last era of the 155 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.080 show, dan As, I'm asking people about the ratings watch is what we 156 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:00.960 call it. What do you think this episode got ratings wise on a Friday 157 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:05.000 night? Now, remember they're on Fridays, okay, on the CW. 158 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.360 Now for a little context, right, last week's episode, Rabid the Zombie 159 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:15.759 episode got two point three million viewers, okay, and the season premiere Savior 160 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:20.080 two point five eight. So that there's your context here, we are what 161 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:26.200 do you think this episode got in the ratings? Let's say that it's still 162 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:31.039 going down consistently, so we'll say two point one. All right, you 163 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:35.600 would be wrong two point six to one. WHOA went up? People love 164 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:37.600 zi It's the early two thousands, mid two thousands. People love zombies. 165 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:41.320 Dad, all right, Okay, so I guess they're like, I love 166 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.200 this show. I'll watch another one. I was just trying to think of, 167 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:48.480 like, like even like in the in the trailer for the episode, 168 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:50.480 what would be there to draw people in? And I don't know that there 169 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.480 was enough there. But Okay, I guess I'm wrong. But like I 170 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:56.519 joked about off the top with you talking about getting caught up, there is 171 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:01.360 a previously on Smallville, Justin Hartley says, it's previously on small But we 172 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.960 get little bits and pieces about Clark and Jireau and their training and toy Man 173 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.440 big stuff from season Dave tory Man episode Wherelex got blown up. Oliver did 174 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.919 pin that murder on the toy Man, so that's why he's after revenge here. 175 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:13.879 And then we got Oliver burning his green arrow costume, which she did 176 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.360 in the last episode because he's in a dark place. And he's in a 177 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.759 dark place because he kind of fumbled the ball with the whole doomsday situation last 178 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:26.720 year and Henry James Olsen died and that is why Oliver Queen is upset. 179 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:31.440 I think Chloe's also have some blame in that also. Everybody had some blame 180 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.039 how that went down, but Oliver's taking it especially hard. Now. He's 181 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:37.879 he is in a dark place, but he's he's physically in a very bright 182 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.679 place. He's in Mexico, right, So he's so I just wanted to 183 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:48.360 point that out this seats. It's the juxtaposition of his internal external circumstances. 184 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.120 Brilliant started telling air, but the episode starts out and it's it's all these 185 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.279 bound and gag sweatshop workers. It seems like in a storage unit. It 186 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:01.360 seems that way to me. Apparently it's a subsidiary of Queen Industries. Yeah, 187 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:03.960 I don't know if well, you know, maybe he's not doing things 188 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.080 above word, but yeah, why would you? Okay, I guess that's 189 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:11.799 that's what it was. Yep. I feel like they I feel like they 190 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:13.519 didn't quite have the budget for whatever it was supposed to be, and they're 191 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.360 like, we'll just shoot it like a sturge in it. And then it 192 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.879 became when it became perhaps because I guarantee you I don't know what it's from, 193 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:22.360 but that when we see like a helicopter and I'm like, that's got 194 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:26.799 to be from a movie or some WV stock footage, Metropolis, PD, 195 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:30.679 the Swat Team all that. But hey, this is where it's cool. 196 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.080 This air of the show, we see the blur show up. Clark just 197 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.559 shows up on a roof and surveys the scene. And I don't know, 198 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:37.840 he's gotta be a little more careful though, because usually he's like in the 199 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:41.320 shadows and stuff, but he's it's the daylight, man, Just stand up, 200 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.919 someone's gonna see you. Yeah. They're lucky that this was like right 201 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.000 right. His iPhones were coming out, you know, so yeah, yeah, 202 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.399 cell phone cameras were not what they were back then, so I think 203 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:54.720 you could still get away with this, But today absolutely no way Clark could 204 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.759 get away with this with this no bass stuff or have no secret identity. 205 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.080 Basically, it's pretty cool effect. We see everybody tied up, and we 206 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.120 see like a little like toy looking masks. I think I think like it 207 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.639 looked like a toy mask on one of the main guy with the gun, 208 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:09.919 right, I don't know, yeah, something like that. At first, 209 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:11.600 I was like, is that gonna be the toy man? Is that going 210 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:15.480 to be the guy? But it was like a reveal later, but we 211 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.600 see like the black blur of him, like blurring in saving the people. 212 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:20.320 It's a it's a pretty fun save. I think, yeah, no, 213 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.159 it was good. It was good. I guess he thought that the guy 214 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.600 was the toy man too, because he throws him and I don't like, 215 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:28.639 this guy look like a hostage. I don't know, like I don't. 216 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.360 It's a good thing he got this mi reading thing because I figured he read 217 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:33.000 the situation wrong, which I guess triggered what happened, right, I don't 218 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.559 know. I was surprised. Yeah, he just kind of chucks him across 219 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:39.320 the room and then just like I'm okay, I did my thing, and 220 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.600 I'll burn the thing on the ground and leave. And I'm like, you 221 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.399 didn't really do any I mean it's not you did save people and you and 222 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.440 you ate the bomb, but maybe you know, do some fact checking. 223 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:52.320 I guess that's the lesson he learns, right. I guess it is right 224 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:54.799 because I mean, yeah, well, well we'll get to any times, 225 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.679 Darrell. But like I'm like, I didn't. I was confused. I 226 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.360 was like, well, because I was like, is that toy man? 227 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:03.480 The mask comes off, it's not. It's a guy with a bomb. 228 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:05.840 It looked like he was tied to a chair too, so it didn't look 229 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.360 like he was like responsible. I don't know, but Clark, Yeah, 230 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:13.080 he sees this bomb, he hugs it, it blows, it blows the 231 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.600 s off his chest. I thought for a second, like, are they 232 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.480 gonna do somewhere Buddy comes in but they don't know he's the blur because his 233 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.399 s is gone. But they didn't. They didn't really do that. He's 234 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.000 just kind of like we see like and I guess they're there. It's very 235 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.600 similar to like what they do for Superhero, where like everything gets kind of 236 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.799 like blown out all around him and like blown out visually. You know when 237 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:33.559 when when it like has the mind reading and that's what the you know, 238 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:35.080 that's what this is, right, He's he's kind of confused. He's taking 239 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.080 so long to get out of there. I'm like, someone's gonna see you. 240 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:41.440 Yeah, there's a big hole in the wall and he's just sort of 241 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.440 standing there and I'm like, God, yeah, you need to get out, 242 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:48.399 but this is apparently what triggers this new power. I did like how 243 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:52.360 he changes in the phone booth. Huh yeah, And again I love this 244 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.279 there of the show where where Tom Willens dressing his age finally you know, 245 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.840 he's wearing like a nice fitting dress shirt and tied. He's just missing the 246 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.279 asses Dan right, Yeah, you know, maybe that's that's for the next 247 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:09.879 power he needs. He needs to get a prescription maybe so. So he 248 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:11.879 gets out of this film with he's looking around and he almost gets hit by 249 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.759 Lois. It's kind of irresponsible driving. Frankly, Yeah, it's only the 250 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.320 first of two times she almost runs him over in this episode. True, 251 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:24.200 it's all that. It's all that, the tension, that unresolved tension. 252 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.519 I think it is between the two of them manifesting. Yeah, Clerk's like, 253 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:30.879 yeah, we're just trying to call you, and she's like on a 254 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:35.039 payphone, which is you know. I like how they use the payphone here, 255 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.559 like the phone booth, Like that pays homage to the classic Superman changing 256 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.080 in the phone booth and the whole thing. So I think that's a fun 257 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.440 way to incorporate that in the twenty first century, where where I mean, 258 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.639 there are there are no payphones anymore, right, I mean I haven't seen 259 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.120 one. I probably hadn't even seen one for ten years when this came out, 260 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.879 so yeah, it's been a long time. But then he starts hearing 261 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:00.679 all these things like Lois trips and he catches Serge, Oh Hello's and all 262 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:04.480 this stuff and hot stuff and and he Clark is so slow in the uptake 263 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:07.679 here what's happening? But I think I think that's very in character for him, 264 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.360 though, isn't it. You know, it's interesting because I was watching 265 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.639 it, I'm like, man, he is he's kind of dumb like here, 266 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.919 Like he's just like, it's pretty simple to see what's happening, Like 267 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:21.559 she's clearly not moving her mouth or anything like that, and uh, you 268 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:23.600 know, it's got that echo of fact of course that all you know, 269 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:29.159 teleopathy has. And he's just like what is what? Like, what what's 270 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:30.799 going on? I mean it's like, you know, come on, man, 271 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:33.200 put this. Put two and two together here. I think you could 272 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:38.159 figure this out. Now. This is a storytelling trope. So I don't 273 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:41.559 know what we call this a movie plot as an episode, because I don't 274 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:45.240 think it's necessary, Like I think about like what women want or something like 275 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:47.960 that for example, right right, But it's not. It's more like this 276 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:49.519 has been a Twilight Zone episode like this. This is a trope in fiction. 277 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.799 So I don't know, would you call this a movie plot as an 278 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.759 episode or not? Oh god, I mean that plot line. There's the 279 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:00.320 thing is, there's so much going on in this episode. It's really tough 280 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:04.200 to like because that's only part of it and it only lasts for half the 281 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:08.559 episode. You know that's true, Thanks Dad, We'll get there. Yeah. 282 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:11.519 Yeah, I don't know if it counts or not, but I think 283 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:12.160 that's a good point. I think you know, when you think of the 284 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.960 when you think of these famous like famous listen to you guys know what I 285 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.799 mean, small old fans. We all know fast and the various right that 286 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.319 the Saw episode, which is probably the most egregious, but it's actually really 287 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:26.440 good b for BT plot point for plot point. This this is an element. 288 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:29.880 So yes, even though we've seen this in other forms of media, 289 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:30.799 I'm not gonna I don't think we should count it. So that's a good 290 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:34.240 call there, good call there, all right, But that's our that's our 291 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:38.880 big stinger out to the opening credits, like like Lois thinking something that she 292 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:42.920 doesn't say. It's so it just throws straight. They're usually so good about 293 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.680 like the punctuation work, but there's not. It's just kind of weird to 294 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.640 me, like I was anyway, it's all playing into Clark just not figuring 295 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.359 this stuff out. So he cuts the open credits and we come back and 296 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:59.359 Clark is He's in an elevator. He's kind of overwhelmed by Lois's thoughts. 297 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.759 Lo is the only person he's hearing so far, and then later he hears 298 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:04.039 everybody, which I don't. I don't think they really explained that, did 299 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.720 they? No, they did not. It wasn't clear and she only only 300 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:12.559 heard her sometimes. But you know, he takes advantage of the situation. 301 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:18.079 It does she is a lie here about uh? Or he does one of 302 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:19.759 them does about I'm not a mind reader. I was like, ah, 303 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:23.480 but you are what you are anyway. I thought that was cute. But 304 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:27.240 he is so slow, and he's like leaning in looking at her mouth. 305 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:33.359 He's close. Did you say something? Yeah? It just makes him look 306 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:36.920 you know, he's bumbling. He's bumbling Clark at this at this moment. 307 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:38.519 So I guess, so he really is playing playing the part here, right, 308 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:41.319 but he hears, like you said, he starts to as any of 309 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.559 us would, right, use this steer vent and she's like talking about how 310 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.359 she's hungry. He missed the lat stonenuts, so he goes and gets her 311 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:51.839 one, and you know he's he's playing that up. But they find through 312 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:55.160 the research here about this bombing because they you know, she wanted to she's 313 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:56.559 always after the blurb, but they missed him, and they want to find 314 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:00.759 out what was going on with this bombing. And it turns out this this 315 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.880 sweatshop is a subsidiary of Queen Industries, which is which is which you know 316 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:10.279 plays into Oliver later. Apparently Clark could call Chloe and they meet on the 317 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:14.599 street. I guess they wanted some exterior scene here. Usually, like Rick 318 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:17.039 Clark, he should just go up to the watchtow or whatever and talk to 319 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.319 her, but they just catch up over a cup of copy walking down the 320 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:26.599 sidewalk about his new power. Huh yeah, I mean yeah, I guess 321 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:29.880 that's it. But it was just weird because like he calls her right away. 322 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:32.920 I guess, like like as soon as he gives low as the doughnut 323 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:38.319 he just goes do but whatever, that's okay. Now, he says that 324 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:42.920 he's only hearing Lois's thoughts, which which Chloe is like annoyed by. I 325 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:45.640 gotta tell you, man, like, yeah, you you know you've been 326 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.920 You've been on on episodes over the course of this podcast. A big Chloe 327 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.799 fan here, right, My stock has dropped so much on her. I'm 328 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.319 like Chloe, she's so like jealous in some way about Clark in Lewis, 329 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.960 but it's like she always uses some other reasons to be upset, which is 330 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.680 maybe justified, but the way it's played and the way it all comes off, 331 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:06.200 it's like I don't like it. I don't like it, and and 332 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:08.480 this is like the first it's just that in this episode, like, oh 333 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:14.039 yeah, I don't like the vibe that Colo is giving off here. No, 334 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:18.680 totally, she's a yeah, she's not very nice about the entire situation. 335 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:22.960 You know. He's Clark literally just he confides in her and he tells 336 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:26.960 her what's going on, and he's looking for some advice and she's just sort 337 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.279 of she's not having it. So yeah, go go talk to your dad 338 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.559 about it, you know, the cryptity because he had been training, which 339 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.960 Orella as we see, Sochloe's like it's gonna take off. And then and 340 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.519 then Clark's standing on the street and I and I thought, maybe he's gonna, 341 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:45.359 like you hear somebody like if I miss this, I'll be fired or 342 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.960 this or that, or he hears all somebody hears all these things, right, 343 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:52.519 all these potential crisis happening, And I thought, oh, maybe maybe 344 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:57.440 he'll use this power to to save someone. But he doesn't. Yeah, 345 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:00.039 but he just he just hears all this stuff. And I was like, 346 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.720 oh, okay. So we go from him being like overwhelmed cut to the 347 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.680 Fortress of Solitude, like there's no like I just I just was kind of 348 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.000 hoping like he'd like stop a car accident. Could you see a woman in 349 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:12.480 a car? And I'm like, okay, well this is setting up. 350 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:15.079 I don't know. I don't know, but I'm like, I feel like 351 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.119 there might have been an actually scene here they wrote, and they're like, 352 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:19.200 we don't have the budget. They cut it, so like a scene like 353 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:22.599 in Superman Returns where he just is sitting up, you know, in orbit 354 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.559 and listening to everybody. Yeah, he's like trying to like focus and find 355 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.079 the one person that's in trouble or whatever. Yeah, I could see that. 356 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:32.920 Yeah, and it is it is very similar. Again, it's very 357 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:34.519 similar to the Superhero, isn't it? Because it's just it is him just 358 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:38.400 absorbing stuff and the only thing is it's thoughts and not speech. But it's 359 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:44.359 it's the same. You think the same process would apply with him sifting through 360 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:48.599 right things he was picking up on his transmitter or whatever you want to call 361 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.680 that. So, so we do cut to the fortress. Clark and Jurrell. 362 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.559 They're on good terms. You know, they've been training. Terrence Stamp 363 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.599 Special guests appearance. Now, if you had to guess Dan how many episodes 364 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:06.079 of Smallville Terrence Stamp was in as Jarrell. But what would your guess be? 365 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:11.440 My goodness, Wow, he's got to be in every It feels like 366 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:17.160 he's in every finale and premiere. I feel like he's or most of them. 367 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:22.359 I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say twenty okay, very close, twenty 368 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.640 three ooh nice, And some of these are like, you know, stock 369 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.519 audio or something. So that. So, for as far as when Karen's 370 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:33.599 Stamp actually did new work, you might be right about twenty What did it 371 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.519 surprise you to know that this is his last appearance in season nine. That 372 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.640 would be yeah, I would find that because it's only episode four, right, 373 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.559 so right, especially especially if he's got like such a like Jooryl's keeping 374 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.759 such good tabs on Clark that he's like he knows what he needs and it's 375 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:53.960 like giving him, I don't know, some sort of weird powers to teach 376 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:57.200 him a lesson. But okay, I guess I planted within you the seed 377 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:00.359 for this trial. I'm like, what, like, what does that mean? 378 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:03.640 Like does it like when he was training there, like he just slipt 379 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:07.759 the little thing and his and his sub Jeorrel. I mean, as we 380 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.279 know on this show, these Kryptonians way too powerful. They can reverse time, 381 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:15.759 They can you know, freeze you, uh, resurrect and clear disease 382 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:19.160 and do all kinds of stuff. Right, So god level Jorel here is 383 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:22.640 in play. You're just giving him a power. This is him explaining because 384 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.039 car said, hey, did you do this? What's the deal man? 385 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:27.519 That was? It's crazy to me because looking at it, I was thinking, 386 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.759 like, okay, was in this series finale? I think he's in 387 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.720 the one for that because he talks to Kara Supergirl, and then I was 388 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.480 like, I don't know, is he in any other ones? And he's 389 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.400 in the season as you're to your point premiers of Allege. He's in the 390 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.200 season premiere of season ten because Clark talks him like in the Afterlife, and 391 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.240 then he's in stock Audio and Kent, which is the alternate universe episode where 392 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.000 Clark gets the other Ultraman to go to his fortress and stuff. But it's 393 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:55.799 like, wow, like in a season where we actually get a physical Joerel 394 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:59.759 later and Zod is here and all these Scryptonians, right, they don't you 395 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.319 Terrence Damp at all. It's strange to me, Like, as you said, 396 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:06.839 like they're so close now and we're four episodes in you think this is 397 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:08.200 just setting up more to come, but no, this is it. Yeah, 398 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:11.039 So like, yeah, that would make total sense if Darrell and at 399 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:15.559 some point interacted, you would think that they probably should have. Wh why 400 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.559 not? Maybe I know he goes to the fortresses, you refuse to speak 401 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:19.720 to me, which I'm like, Okay, I can see that that's a 402 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:23.440 nice way around that I'm not talking to this guy, right, But anyway, 403 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:26.839 it's just interest because weird like, there's we have far more episodes of 404 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.559 Terrence Stamp behind us than ahead of us, which is just surprising to me. 405 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:33.880 As we get further into Superman and mythology and stuff, you think that 406 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:37.400 stuff would increase. But anyway, Darrell gave Clark this power to work on 407 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:41.039 his Kryptonian intuition, and I do like how Clark's like, hey, don't 408 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:42.559 underestimate who wins, and Clark's like, when you should you? Because it 409 00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:47.160 works both ways. Clark's like, well, don't underestimate him, but Drell's 410 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:48.799 like, hey, like you, you're underestimating them by just taking everything to 411 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:52.920 say face value. So I thought that was interesting. He says perception can 412 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.000 be the difference between life and death. Very true. Yeah, okay, 413 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:00.119 I don't know if now is the right time to talk about this, but 414 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:06.920 this makes no sense to me. I don't perception like okay, So by 415 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:11.440 giving him an extra ability and then taking it away from him, I don't 416 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:17.319 think that teaches him about the ability of perception. I'm not really sure what 417 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.599 he learned or when. I Like, at the end of the episode, 418 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:25.680 right he's talking to Oliver and he's noticing that Oliver sat and I guess that's 419 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:29.279 normally he would have just ignored that or something. Is that the lesson he 420 00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:33.319 takes away from this. I'm not sure what the plan and the payoff was. 421 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.680 I mean, that's fair, but this clerk, I believe it all 422 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.599 right, It's true, like it's almost too too small of a sample to 423 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.799 make any real difference. But I guess, I guess throughout the episode, 424 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.759 like he and especially with his stuff with Lois and stuff like you see, 425 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.640 like he's realizing like, oh, people don't always say what they need or 426 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.759 think, which is a ridiculously base level lesson, but apparently he needed it. 427 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.200 I mean, you know, as a as a living being, a 428 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:03.920 conscious living being, you think he would have gleaned that at the age of 429 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.240 two like the rest of us. But that's fine, Okay, that's you 430 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.599 mean, people lie anyway. But then we go to we go to the 431 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:18.920 hospital, Troupel's General. We have turns out three plus ones over the course 432 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.319 of this. I don't know more people went, but we saw three different 433 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:23.440 people in the three in the hospital beds, and that's what we're counting for 434 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:27.519 this episode's sake. But the first person that they talked to, it's apparently 435 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:33.200 an undocumented worker, because Clark has to tell him like, I'm not with 436 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:36.079 the I n S. Because she hears her where You're like, oh no, 437 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:37.000 they're gonna send me back, and my baby, I'm like, god, 438 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.920 yeah, y'all, like this is Queen industries. Like do do you 439 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.119 understand the implications of what you're saying? I don't think they did. Yeah, 440 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.839 yeah, it seems like it's a kind of an oversight, or maybe 441 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:52.079 it's just so far down the chain that I don't know. Yeah, it's 442 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.759 so weird. It's so bizarre because it's obviously important enough that it brings Oliver 443 00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:59.680 back into the world and he's aware of it, so like, yeah, 444 00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:04.079 just feels like it's weird that it's like under the books textile making like in 445 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:07.599 Kansas, Like I like, I don't know what is going on here, 446 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.519 but okay, that's fine. Yeah, it's strange. It's strange. So 447 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:12.759 yeah, because Louis is trying to talk to her and she wanted talking to 448 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.119 Clark mentions the whole like, oh we're not you can talk to us, 449 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.680 and then she opens up and the next guy is like a very excited liar. 450 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.400 He's like he was he was short and fat, and then he was 451 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.440 tall and thin, and and then Clark kind of zones in on him and 452 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.480 hears that. He's like, oh, man, maybe maybe seen in we'll 453 00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.599 talk to me next or so like he sees like glory and then the attention 454 00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:34.519 of it all, and then Clark calls him out. He's like, well, 455 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.079 you understand that if you lied to us, it'll just bl and Lois 456 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.519 seems really like turned on by Clark's assertive this year. I thought they just 457 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.480 pay a lot of attention to her reaction to it. I thought, yeah, 458 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:51.000 he he We get like a glimpse of Stern talking uh Clark, and 459 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:52.839 yeah, I guess she's into well it makes sense, you know, her 460 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.200 father, that kind of kind of man, so maybe that's a thing. 461 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.279 But yeah, she's picking up what he's putting down there, and he's like, 462 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.839 oh the liar hospital patient. He's like, oh, I didn't see 463 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.880 anything. You guys are right. So they move on from him. We 464 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.160 got a third guy later, the alleged bomber, they think at this point, 465 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.279 but we'll get to him later. And then Lois brings Clark like a 466 00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:18.559 bagel or something to be even when he butter donut and they're like, all 467 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.000 right, let's call it a night, and then she leaves. She's like, 468 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.720 oh yeah, I have plans and with lifetime and ice cream and that 469 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:27.119 kind of thing. So then Clark he decides to seize this opportunity. He's 470 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:30.559 like, oh, well, then, Lois, I was thinking that we 471 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.720 could go out together. And then he hears her think, oh, it's 472 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.000 Clark KNT asking me on a date, and he's like, well, no, 473 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.119 like a date. And then it's I think it's a very fun back 474 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:41.319 and forth here. What about you? Yeah, I mean, you know, 475 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:47.160 I'm unabashed, unashamed Lois fan, so anything anytime she's on screen, 476 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.440 especially when they're being cute together, I'm like, so that was the best 477 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:52.519 part of the episode for me. I love when they're all doing it. 478 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.759 Although Clark, you know, tripping over himself again, he knows he can 479 00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:59.119 read her thoughts. And then when she's like, oh, is he ask 480 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:00.759 you me on a date? He's like no, I'm like you are though, 481 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.599 like why are you Why are you surprised by this reaction? I just 482 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.319 that's the thing, right, Like, but yeah, you should, this 483 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.880 is your goal, Like, so why are you playing it down just to 484 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.680 just to be safe anyway. I know they have a lot of baggage over 485 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.960 the years between the two of them, but but no, to me, 486 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.440 like, I really enjoyed this episode and it'll be interesting that I haven't really 487 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.400 decided what I'm gonna give it at the end. I forgot our conversation with 488 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:27.599 the terminate. But the strengths of this episode is them, their interplay, 489 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.880 their relationship, the back and forth. It's pretty adorable. You know, 490 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.640 it's been established that Lois likes this for whatever reason, monster truck rallies. 491 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.640 It's a thing on the show. So he hears her think about that, 492 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.240 and then he's like, well, you know, we could go to this 493 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.000 monster truck rally and she's like, oh my god, Like he hears how 494 00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.079 excited she is. I did like this rule of like two cars and no 495 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:52.920 drama standard procedure. Yeah, yeah, that was good. I guess it's 496 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.039 the most Midwestern thing that they could think of, Like like, maybe that's 497 00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.240 what it is. Have you ever been to a monster truck rally? I 498 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.079 don't think I have. I have not either, and I've seen ads for 499 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:04.039 them and I just never saw the appeal. I'm like, oh, a 500 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:10.920 big truck crushing cars or cars. Yeah, okay, yeah, I don't 501 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.440 know, but Hey has a huge fan based Lewisling among them. Yeah. 502 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.039 Then we cut to Mexico. It's very obviously Mexican. If you know it 503 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.640 was Mexico yet you could tell by the giant Mexican flag on the side of 504 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:30.160 the wall and all these things. And Oliver, Yeah, yeah, very 505 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.440 Mexico, very Mexico. Oliver wanders in to a bar, already drunk, 506 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:41.720 clearly, and I I had zero memory of this at all. I was 507 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.359 like, what is this? Why how I been? I guess it's not 508 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.400 very that memorable. It's just just typical, like, oh, I'm a 509 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.680 rich guy, and look at all those cars and what I got to narrow 510 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.119 I've got purple stuff. Anyway, Oliver being Oliver, I guess, yeah, 511 00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.480 it was. It was fine. I guess the point across. I 512 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.000 guess he was, you know, flirting with some married ladies that I guess 513 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.279 wanted his money. Yeah. Yeah, apparently, because you think it's just 514 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:08.759 like, oh, some women at a bar, like, oh, who's 515 00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.279 that cute new guy. Apparently they're wives of some like, you know, 516 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.880 tough guys, because one of them comes up to the to oliveries of hey, 517 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:18.599 why hit him my wife? And he's like, which one's your wife? 518 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.680 And he's making fun of like the other his henchman or his wife, 519 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.480 and then they get in a big fight and then out of nowhere, Anosi 520 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:32.720 goes off and it's tests what is this? I mean, if you want 521 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:33.799 to clear a bar, it is a good way to do it. I 522 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.839 guess I don't know if it would sort of pass inspection today, but that 523 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.480 she does a lot in this episode. And I forgot like sort of what 524 00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:47.960 kinds of things she gets into, but apparently it's everything. Yeah, that's 525 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.279 the thing. She's kind of a I mean, they define her character's time 526 00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:52.960 goes on, but like she's kind of blank slates. They can kind of 527 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.279 do anything with her. I guess she's so new. I mean she's only 528 00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:57.599 been on the show for a year. But I was like, oh, 529 00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.920 oh, Test is here this episode doing stuff I didn't I had no memory 530 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:06.119 of any of that. By the way, you watch This is Us, 531 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.440 Yeah, okay, on This is Us. Justin Harley plays a character and 532 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:17.119 called Kevin Kevin Pearson, and he has like struggles with like alcohol and and 533 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.279 addiction, and he gets into dark places a lot, and I'm like, 534 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:25.400 this is his like demo real for that It's it seems now it's he's fine 535 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.119 here. But I gotta tell you, man, this Is Us is a 536 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.440 really great show. I do recommend it. And he really justin Harley Man. 537 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.799 Like, I'm not saying he was bad on Small Villa or anything. 538 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.319 He was fine, and he was he was really good at certain times, 539 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:37.559 right, but it never did. I watched this like that guy is gonna 540 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:39.759 win Emmys one day, right, you watched This is Us and like, 541 00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:44.440 this guy deserves an inny. So I'm just saying I could see a lot 542 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.640 of Kevin Pearson in this dark place, Oliver Queens in these in these early 543 00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:51.680 episodes season nine? Is he the lead on that show? It's about three 544 00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.799 siblings they call himselves the Big Three. He is one of those three? 545 00:32:54.119 --> 00:33:00.240 Okay, and Peter Petrelli is his dad. Oh okay, if you cheer 546 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.519 ros yeah yeah. Anyway, Wait is that enough? Is there enough age 547 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:07.440 difference? Okay? Well, there's flashbacks and stuff. It's all. It's 548 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.559 all told the different time periods. It's just kind of the hook of the 549 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.160 show, which is like the most interesting conceit so anyway, check it out 550 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:15.720 if you're looking for a show to watch. It's on Hulu, just like 551 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.920 Smallville, so at least it used to be. It's probably on Peacock. 552 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.880 Now I don't even know, at least at least streaming services whats where. 553 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:27.920 But uh, we cut to Lois getting ready for her date. She's cutting 554 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.640 up, cutting up jeans and getting her getting her stuff on. Now you 555 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.759 know, I have a category here called Lois's costume Closet, and I want 556 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.880 to I want to include this in the category because she's getting all dressed up 557 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.480 to go this Monster Truck Rally. What do you think is is that a 558 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.240 fair Talyboard edition? Dan? I would think so. It is interesting that 559 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.680 she doesn't have, knowing that like we do, how big of a fan 560 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.640 of Monster Truck Rallies that she is, She doesn't have jeans that are already 561 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.200 cut up. I don't know how often one would need to cut up new 562 00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.160 genes. But you know it's fine, it's fine for this. Well, 563 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.559 it's because she's going with Clark, all right, she wants to wear something 564 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.759 special. Maybe that's where I'm gonna hate Kennon. And usually I usually I 565 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:09.639 use this category for like stuff she's gonna go sneak into something with and I'm 566 00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.119 like, ah, we gotta count it's fun. It's fun. So she's 567 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.119 making a new outfit, that's why Ki. But then of course, buzz 568 00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:20.440 kill Chloe comes in. It's like, oh, look at you, who's 569 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.760 the Prince Charming? Who the f do you think it is? Chloe? 570 00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.239 Like who else would it be? She's like, oh, and this is 571 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.320 cute because look they've they've had to come along. I was not sold on 572 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:34.039 Clark and Lewis like you were from the from the start. They have to 573 00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.159 have to come a long way to get here. But they're doing the work 574 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:39.679 and I respect it because they had like a brother sister vibe that started, 575 00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.199 and they to me, they had way too many like we don't like each 576 00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.199 other because we're gonna be married in the future jokes and that was so there 577 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.440 was too much of it for my taste, right, But now they realized 578 00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:51.440 that, like, okay, we did all that nonsense, but we need 579 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.079 to get back to what the core this should be. And they're doing it 580 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.480 because Lois is like, look, I never thought I'd said this out loud, 581 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.440 but it's Clark Kent and she's really excited about their date, and then 582 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:06.480 Chloe's action was like, eh, it just like Chloe, stop it. 583 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.920 Yeah, and she doesn't even I don't think it feels like Lois doesn't even 584 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.519 clock it, Like no, like normally she would, you know, really 585 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.079 maybe snipe back a little bit or say like what's your deal? But yeah, 586 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.880 Chloe is just a big old stick in the mud the whole time. 587 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.519 And it's like that this is And at that point in the episode, I 588 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:29.320 was thinking, is this episode trying to tell us that Clark using his power 589 00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:34.079 to go on a date with Lois is bad, like like it's him abusing 590 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.400 his power or something. We're taking advantage of Lois in some manner of fashion, 591 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.039 but that the episode never goes in that direction. Oh, I guess 592 00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.159 I would pick a direction, right, because that's an interesting idea, Like, 593 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:46.800 Oh, I got this new power and I'm kind of it's like a 594 00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:50.800 crutch and I'm using it too much for my own benefit. I need to 595 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.039 like get some perspective, like have that conversation, like maybe have a follow 596 00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:55.199 up at Jorell, who I thought maybe we'd have a follow up with, 597 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:58.840 but no, he's gone. Thanks Dad, that's it. Uh? I 598 00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:00.760 keep I keep quoting that because it's such a strange thing. We'll get to 599 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:06.440 it at the end. But yeah, like Chloe, I guess she's the 600 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.440 only person to wear this happening, so she's the only other point of view 601 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.400 we have. And she seems like, oh, it's like he's guessing what 602 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:17.159 you're thinking. Huh back, why are you so upset? Like he's making 603 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.679 her happy? What is the problem? You know? M hm. He's 604 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.159 not nefarious about it. It's like stuff they would have done anyway. Anyway. 605 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.559 I just buzz go Chloe here, and it's just like, yeah, 606 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.159 I don't she's not jealous of Clark anymore. I shouldn't be. It's just 607 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.000 I don't know. I get I get flashbacks to like old petty jealous Chloe, 608 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:38.639 and like it's not a good look on you from like season two, 609 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.719 right, Like it's like that same like same energy, and it's like, 610 00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.320 man, they're just going up, they're just going to the monster trucks. 611 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.480 Just let them go have fun, you know. And she was having such 612 00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:52.400 a nice moment, like Loe's just like I I maybe me and Clark against 613 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.800 the world, and I'm like, that's that's nice. That's a yues support 614 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.280 that support your cousin and your friend when she's going out with your other friend, 615 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.880 you should be happy about this. Well, while this is going on, 616 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.159 Clark is hanging her out the hospital to get more information with his with 617 00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.840 his new mental powers, and he and he hears the who they thought was 618 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:15.320 the bomber but really isn't like or not the mastermind of it all anyway. 619 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.159 I don't know if he was an accomplice or what he was actually, I 620 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:22.320 don't think they really they haven't really let us know. But he hears him 621 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:28.840 like thinking to himself or something about toy Man and basically incriminating the toy man 622 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.960 here and this is our third person in the hospital, so plus three total. 623 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.199 That's why Clark's like, oh Winstel shot toy Man. He's back, 624 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.840 right, And then we cut to like the outfit of the toy Man somewhere 625 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.280 in the newspaper article we saw from a previously on of like you know, 626 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.599 toy killer on the toy bomber on the loose or something, which is which 627 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.639 is after he had he had quote unquote kill Lex Luthor. And then he 628 00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.519 picked up a little sunglassess like, oh what the guy's for good. Do 629 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.159 you remember the toy Do you have a strong feelings or impressions about the toy 630 00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.280 Man on Smallville? No, I mean, you know, I he toin 631 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.199 into me always strikes me as a Batman villain. I don't I just don't 632 00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.840 know. I don't get why he's ever a Superman villain. But it's fine. 633 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.000 I forgot that he was on Smallville, and then when I saw him 634 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.000 here, I'm like, Okay, I see what they're doing. He's crazy 635 00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.840 and he likes toy bombs. Yeah, like that's his thing. I guess 636 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.679 it's just weird when you see it, like sort of played straight, you 637 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.199 know what I mean, Like like he's an actual threat. And we'll get 638 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.880 to the other scene. I really want to talk about Clark melting his face 639 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:30.199 off, because I've forgotten that's hardcore. Yeah, that's like so in Smallville. 640 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:35.199 The Fisial Magazine number thirty three available wherever magazine just sold. There's an 641 00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.239 interview here with Chris Gothier, who plays toy Man. Now you might recall 642 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.480 that he played the It guy in season three, the episode Delete. It 643 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:47.480 was just one scene like Lex goes down to like the the It and it's 644 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.320 this guy, and it's funny how this kind of worked out. So anyway, 645 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:57.239 they talk about this in the interview, Chris Gothia says this quote, 646 00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.599 it's so cool how that worked out five years ago. I for Lex, 647 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.480 I thought that was great how that panned out. People have been casting illusions 648 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.320 that this was in the works that I was hired five years ago for this 649 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.639 five seasons from now, keep your schedule free. I had so much fun 650 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:14.800 on the set because he had worked for Lex and then for Oliver Queen and 651 00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.320 they did the timeline works. So Mike, Hey, Cannon, that guy 652 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:21.360 Alex saw that one scene wasn't a toy man. It's totally cool. But 653 00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:22.719 you mentioned like how he played and stuff. So he's talking about how he 654 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.360 played the toy man and he says, quote, I didn't want to play 655 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.719 him too over the top because it's TV. I also didn't want to be 656 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.320 too crazy, So I hope I met a happy medium. I wanted him 657 00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.559 to be creepy. If he was too over the top, it would have 658 00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.039 been cheesy. I wanted to have some realism in there. At the same 659 00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:43.280 time, he is an insane figure obviously for that evil and kill people. 660 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.280 Something's messed up in you. I did a little bit of research about the 661 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.800 character. I'm a fan of cult things. I looked at Wikipedia, and 662 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.719 I just went with ma instincts. So I know, I actually really enjoy 663 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:58.599 him on Smallville. I think he's a very comic book villain in this world 664 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.320 which doesn't have a lot of comic But that's every Hey, it's Comico show 665 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:04.719 every now that it's if every villain were like this, i'd be like, 666 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:09.440 but look for every now and then little flavor. I like it. Yeah, 667 00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:13.880 when you were talking, we were talking earlier about like the like sort 668 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.039 of the tone and the feeling of season nine, I'm like, this is 669 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:20.719 definitely something that doesn't exist in an earlier Smallville. You know what I mean, 670 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.320 it's not like this word's because it does. It leans way heavier into 671 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:27.679 that, like the comic stuff, like the really really comic y stuff. 672 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.360 When then yeah, like you said, it's it's fine. Yeah, I 673 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:31.639 think my favorite toy Man, I think all my favorite versions of all the 674 00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:36.519 Superman villains or Superman the animated series. Yeah, because that's a creepy just 675 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.679 a creepy dowing Man guy. That's a good call, Like he'd fit our 676 00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:42.719 idem with the Riddler or something, right, like why why is this? 677 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.639 Why is this guy who who decided this should be a Superman villain? Yeah? 678 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:51.360 I think they got their Yeah, their notes mixed up because h one, 679 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:55.440 the one guy there is in Batman the animated series. He has the 680 00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.280 ventriloquist dummy. I can't remember the scarface. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 681 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.760 is that who I'm thinking of? Yeah, well there's in the Gray Ghost 682 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.559 episode, the one that of West there's a there's villain called the Toy Bomber 683 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.320 okay maybe, and he has plain remote control planes and stuff, and he's 684 00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:15.199 got toys and stuff and like that's almost like a toy man. But it's 685 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.280 like, no, that's a that's a Superman villain. But anyway, but 686 00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:21.480 then you got villains like a prankster. The guy was on Leelson Clark a 687 00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:23.000 couple of times. He's from the comics, so these are you know, 688 00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:25.960 you gotta sympathize with the comic writers, and like I have a running out 689 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.920 of ideas for villains, so they just start copying Batman and stuff. But 690 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.880 anyway, but he's here. I Requiem was a very complicated episodes, the 691 00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:36.960 one where they lot of got the Kryptonite and the kill Lex. All this 692 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:38.559 crazy stuff is going on with his last appearance, but I thought he was 693 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:42.119 a highlight of it, and I'm glad he's He's part of the smuvele Mythos 694 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:43.880 here. So anyway, we do you see him again? Two? Right? 695 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.880 We do we see him again? In season ten? Uh? He 696 00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.559 in the second to last episode of the series. Oh wow, he forms 697 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.320 the Legion of Doom, which goes nowhere because it's the end of the show. 698 00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:59.320 So anyway, so then we get to Tests and Oliver, she's like, 699 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:00.079 you know, talking like, hey, what are you doing? Like 700 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.320 I one of my favorite lines, she says, I wrote it down is 701 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:07.679 your stock is worth less than you think of yourself. Just now I thought 702 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.159 was pretty good. H And she doesn't know why he's punishing himself because she 703 00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:14.679 doesn't know any of this stuff about how Jimmy died or any of that happened. 704 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.960 So this is like a good feelings is actually good emotionally connecting the scene 705 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.079 between the two of them, and then Oliver like he can Oliver's back is 706 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:22.760 to her the whole time. He can tell like it's kind of getting to 707 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.480 it WI and then he kind of pulls himself together, and I guess he's 708 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.920 intuitive, which is the theme of this episode, because he's like, what 709 00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.079 do you want to sounds like you need to do the talking. Apparently she 710 00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:37.039 needs him to address the shareholders because you know, our our sweatshops are being 711 00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.559 blown up and we need we need our CEO to address it. Yeah, 712 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:44.039 why it's so weird. It's I keep coming back and that I'm sorry, 713 00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.199 but it's so straight. It doesn't it's it is bizarre. I mean, 714 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:52.920 it makes sense right that toy Man knew to target it so that now he 715 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:57.679 has a reason to go back and go into the public sphere. But like 716 00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.800 you said, it's just why pick that of all things? But yeah, 717 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:02.880 so Oliver, I don't know if he was hoping, like for an actual 718 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.480 thing. Here's like, so is that all you want her? And she 719 00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.199 says, I've learned not to expect too much from you, Oliver, Like 720 00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:12.440 damn, yeah, because they had you know, they had a relationship in 721 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.239 the past, and I thought that was I always always mentioned this. I 722 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:19.880 think it was clever to tie tests into Oliver's past because that kind of helps 723 00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.679 like justify her presence on the show, because obviously they made her up in 724 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.039 season eight, right, there was not even a thought of her. But 725 00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:28.840 I'm like, okay, well she knew her and him, like you can 726 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.760 kind of put the pieces together, and it just kind of helps es her 727 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.039 into the show, her place in this universe. So I don't I still 728 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:37.800 know why she showed up like looking like Laura Croft. It's for this scene. 729 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:43.159 But anyway, yeah, yeah, because she least like wheels up in 730 00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.039 twenty like we military tests now all of a sudden. But anyway, then 731 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:51.159 I swear I swee come back to the Daily Planet. Clark chills back up 732 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:52.519 there, and here's Chloe. He's like, well, if he could read 733 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:59.239 my mind, we can He's like, or else what chloy? Because she 734 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.000 did because last time she knew Clark could only hear Lois, but now he 735 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.480 hears everyone. She's liked, well, you're here breaking my cousin's heart. 736 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.480 And anyway, yes, he stood her up on this. This was actually 737 00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.599 I think they could have done but they were They could have done this a 738 00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.920 little further, like we didn't see Clark like cancel with her or anything. 739 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.360 It just all of a sudden, like he didn't go I don't know. 740 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:20.960 That was a little messy to me, what do you think, Dan, 741 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:25.719 Yeah, I mean it is weird because you know, why wouldn't he also 742 00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.960 tell Lois because it's not like she's not involved in what they're doing. It's 743 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.599 like, yeah, I guess maybe what does he think is going to like 744 00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:36.000 does you think it's going to be I don't know, maybe he just thinks 745 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:37.639 it's going to be dangerous or something. But yeah, it's weird that we 746 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.199 don't get it. Yeah, I mean there are ways you could have played 747 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.840 it off to not like, I don't know, man, like you've been 748 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.559 working on this. You guys have had a lot of failure to launches. 749 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.880 You could have tried to make this one work a little better. Fortunately it 750 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.639 turns out okay in the end, all things considered. But I think he 751 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:52.880 thought he could have to go do Blur stuff, and you don't want to 752 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.920 involved and be danger because the toy man, you know, dangerous guys got 753 00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:00.559 bombs and prisoners and and all this sort of stuff, So he didn't want 754 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.320 to get her too involved. But she's already kind of circling this story. 755 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.599 So I do like how Clark clarifies so well, it wasn't really date, 756 00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:10.280 It was not date like that makes it like that made it okay any better? 757 00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.599 Have you learned nothing? You know from your mind powers? They're on 758 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:17.400 the case, right. He gets her to kind of, you know, 759 00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:21.440 do her investigation, get to watch Tower and do your superhero thing. I'm 760 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:22.679 gonna go to this party at the it's at the Ace of Clubs, so 761 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.360 that they find out that Oliver's back in town and he's making this big announcement, 762 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.480 so that this obviously this is all part of the plan for uh toy 763 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.360 man to draw it. Oliver, he uses his mental powers to to read 764 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.239 the bouncer's name, to read the bouncer's mind as he's reading the names off 765 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.199 the list, to just pick a random one to say that's so he is, 766 00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.679 Huh, if only were that easy to get into these parties. Yet 767 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.719 well, you know, he could have just looked at it as well, 768 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.280 you know, with his X ray just saying he doesn't need Yeah, that 769 00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.559 was kind of a flimsy use of that, but that's okay. He forget 770 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.840 that's the very superman thing, Like he gets these other powers, then he 771 00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:58.679 forgets he has the other powers, like older powers. But well, even 772 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:00.800 he has trouble keeping tracking on a lot, there's a lot to know, 773 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:07.559 so and then like Clark, he gets in under some fake name and like 774 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:12.400 do you have a plus one? And then on cute, a giant monster 775 00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.599 drug shows up and I al wants HiT's Clark. I gets it two times 776 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.599 in one episode. Uh level, someone sits him. And so we're to 777 00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:22.760 believe that she got one of the monster truck guys to drive her to this 778 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.119 party because she heard Oliver was back. Is that where to believe? That 779 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.800 makes more sense than what I was thinking, Well, we did. I 780 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.000 thought she drove it, but I guess she did get out of the right 781 00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.159 side of it, so that makes way more sense. When she left her 782 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:37.599 person in the car, she tells Clark that they hope they has an open 783 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.519 bar because they left the person. Now she's wearing something totally different than we 784 00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:45.280 saw her dressing up for, which also confused me. Yeah, I guess 785 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.440 the idea is that he she also had the driver stop and get a very 786 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.679 fancy dress for this black tie affair that she was trying to crash and she 787 00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:58.039 found out because I don't I don't know, does has that ever explained? 788 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.400 She just shows up. It's very convenient. It's all very convenient. And 789 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.440 look, I look, I enjoy this episode quite a bit, but there 790 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:06.639 are some plot holes here that could have filled in, and they're just a 791 00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.199 little messy. And this is one of those messy spots. Okay, it's 792 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.840 one of these messy spots because they just had to get them here at the 793 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.320 same time. But they could have done they could have just avoided the monsters. 794 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.440 Now rewriting it, but I'm like, you could avoid the monster truck 795 00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:21.679 thing entirely. I'm like, hey, b a plus one to this thing 796 00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.119 that we have tickets for to see, all right, you could have just 797 00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:28.440 it could have been a little more organic. Do you think that maybe? 798 00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.119 Uh, like in Toronto that week there was a monster truck rally and they 799 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.840 just were able to get one for cheap and that was and maybe that's why. 800 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.519 You know, that's a good point because that's not that they spend a 801 00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.239 lot of time on it. But it is a giant monster truck prop. 802 00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.480 I mean, if you're trying to save budget, why would you put that, 803 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:50.039 Why would you even put that in the episode? But it is very 804 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.639 comical. It's very low stlane to show up in a monster truck from a 805 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.039 monster truck rally, so so get on to their show. She says something 806 00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:00.079 like, you can't you can't keep things from you small, I have the 807 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:06.920 Internet on my phone, so two thousand and nine. It's so cute. 808 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.320 So yeah, that's really funny. But she she's basically her theory is that 809 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:12.880 Clark, you know, ditch your for this and bros. She says, 810 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.480 bros. Before hose, Well, there you go, quote unquote from Loew's 811 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.840 lane herself get to go see Oliver and keep the story or something like that. 812 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:21.840 That's kind of where she is about it. That's where he is about 813 00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.000 it. We get in there and Clark starts scanning the crowd and hearing just 814 00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:29.360 all kinds of nonsense and and then he gets these mixed messages from Lois Like. 815 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.239 It was strange to me that I thought she was saying, Oh, 816 00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:35.599 I'm just gonna go, and then he was hearing like conflicting things, and 817 00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:37.960 I thought she was like, and this is a classic blowest anything, like 818 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:39.199 I'm just gonna get some there, I'm gonna, you know, give me 819 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:43.559 a drink. And then she goes off and does more investigative stuff. But 820 00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.719 I guess she really did just really just went home. This time, Dan, 821 00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:50.000 Yeah, she was just you know, they didn't want her there for 822 00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:54.159 the scary stuff I guess the bomb and the uh Oliver pouring his heart out 823 00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:59.760 and that was it. She just was gone. Yeah, So why get 824 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.000 there first? Why even be there like at all? Kind of again, 825 00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:05.320 yeah, I think it's a monster truck thing. Man. I think that's 826 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.920 just because there's not really she doesn't really serve much purpose going there and then 827 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.840 just leaving. Yeah, yeah, like why even never show up at all? 828 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.079 Strange? Like it doesn't like bother me, But I'm just confused, 829 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.639 Like it's just like, yeah, because she gain how many times have we 830 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.400 seen like Clark and Lewis show up somewhere and they both make their excuses to 831 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.440 go do you know her lowest Lane thing and he go does his Superman thing? 832 00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:30.280 Right, Uh, but she doesn't really just go home. But then 833 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.400 she went home, She went off there you go. But then we have 834 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.840 Oliver addressing the crowd and uh, it's kind of funny. He has well 835 00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:42.519 Test introduces him and he comes out. He's like,'s see if I'm 836 00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.079 gonna stay up right long enough to say this, And he's like, huh, 837 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.800 speechwriter's got a sense of humor and everybody laughs, you know, you 838 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.960 know, like because you think you don't know where this is coming from yet, 839 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.440 but apparently the speech is coming from the toy man boy put on the 840 00:49:54.519 --> 00:50:00.159 ear piece and then like there's this big everybody hears some big sound, right. 841 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:05.400 I don't remember the sound part, but it's visual. I don't know, 842 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:10.079 like Clark lost his power here to hear right, right? But I 843 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:14.480 thought everyone was everyone reacting to it or was that just the visual light of 844 00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.840 like him that Yeah, I don't remember. I don't recall thinking that anything 845 00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.800 odd happened. I was confused because they were trying to show you that, 846 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.800 like he lost his power, and the way they show this power is like, 847 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.320 you know, the overblown light sort of thing. And I wasn't sure, 848 00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:31.639 like are people reacting to this or not? I don't know. And 849 00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:37.079 then Clark's like, huh, thanks Dad. Just such a strange reaction for 850 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.400 him talking to like him talking to himself about Darrell saying that about him losing 851 00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:45.480 his power. It's very strange. I again that that whole plot like is 852 00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:51.360 just so so bizarre because like, okay, so he chooses this moment for 853 00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:55.519 now Clark to learn the lesson about perception. But I don't know how he 854 00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:00.159 does that. I'm not sure what happens next that facilitates like his plan moving 855 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.800 forward, But it shouldn't matter what even happens next, because how would he 856 00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:07.760 even know? Yeah, well, yeah, I guess. Well, yeah, 857 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:12.320 that's another issue entirely. But it real exists out time, outside of 858 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.920 time in space clearly. So toy Man starts saying, like, we're gonna 859 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.840 play game, toy Man says, and they're shooting. They're shooting toy Man 860 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.079 real tight, so you can't see where he is, which I think is 861 00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.599 clever because it kind of pays into like the double reveal later you see his 862 00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:28.280 like his eyes or his mouth or something like that, and reveals that Oliver's 863 00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.800 on this pressure play this bomb, right, so like if he steps off 864 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:31.519 of it, it's gonna blow up and he has to stand there and he 865 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:35.280 has to read the cell prompt everybody it's gonna die, right, So he's 866 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:37.519 reading this pretty damning speech about himself. He's like a silver spoon in my 867 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.239 mouth and all that. Although it turns out to be pretty good therapy for 868 00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:45.239 Oliver at this point. H Yeah, he says, it's a he says 869 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:49.599 it's a fact sheet. Yeah. So yeah, he's talking about how he's 870 00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:55.719 a liar and a cheater, and he says, did you clock this? 871 00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:00.239 He says, my name is Oliver Queen. He says that I'm like he 872 00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:05.960 said the thing from Arrow. You have failed the city. No, no, 873 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.559 no, we can't do I never thought I never thought that this. 874 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.239 Oliver Queen said, my name is Oliver Queen. It was so funny to 875 00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.679 find it in like this speech here in this episode. But Clark X rays 876 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:19.239 everything and he sees that he sees the bomb with like a like a timer 877 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.000 on it. He tells Chloe like to get the building, clear it out. 878 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:28.239 So she she's hacking away and and hacks into the alarms. Just everyone 879 00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.960 evacorad the building. And you know, I don't know, like in the 880 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.920 old days, you just be like, a right, we need everybody out, 881 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:37.440 Like Clark would have pulled a fire alarm or something. Why why okay 882 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:43.000 whatever if we have hacker Chloe here to to say the day here. But 883 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.559 toy Man really wants him to do uh, to confess that he killed Lex, 884 00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:49.559 And he's like, you didn't have any problems telling him I killed Lex? 885 00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.519 So which is a good point, like like toy Man shouldn't be doing 886 00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:54.679 what he was doing, but Oliver shouldn't have pinned the murder flexing with her 887 00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.639 on toy Man, right. I mean it's toy has killed a lot of 888 00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.079 people, but he didn't kill like suth Her. Yeah, So everybody clears 889 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.400 out and then we get this reveal of toy Man like on the balcony or 890 00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:06.079 something close to the balcony, right, and then Clark just goes over to 891 00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.679 him and man handles him, and I love it. He says, I 892 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:13.320 don't know who you are. Well I was gonna ask that too, because 893 00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.320 I'm does does do they not interact in the first episode that he's no, 894 00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:21.800 it's all it's all Oliver, and it's all like lex uh working with toy 895 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.320 Man and then a toy Man like getting Oliver queen because he's he's fixated on 896 00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:28.719 Oliver because that's the guy who like fired him and all that stuff. So 897 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.159 it's like Avengers endgame switch. It's like you took everything from me. I 898 00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:37.480 don't even know who you are. So my other question was does he is 899 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:42.679 He also not concerned about his identity. That is a problem. See that's 900 00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:45.920 and that actually actually that that plays, and then when he comes back and 901 00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:47.599 the end of season ten, like he knows his identity, which I'm like, 902 00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:52.239 yeah, because you just carelessly sped up to this guy was like gonna 903 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.920 throw him off a balcony or something. This is where I believe we're supposed 904 00:53:55.960 --> 00:54:02.440 to learn how Clark uses in tuition to defeat toy Matt right, because we 905 00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:07.960 keep cutting back and forth to like Oliver on the on the podium, like 906 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:10.199 preparing himself for dead. I think some good moments of Oliver like collecting himself 907 00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:14.559 and breathing, like like just mentally preparing for what's gonna happen. But then 908 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.480 Clark's like with real winslow shot and this and that in the game, Like 909 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:22.199 I think we're supposed to take that Clark would not have come to these conclusions 910 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:29.960 without his telepathic power. I guess, I guess if. But what if 911 00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.920 he still had his power and then he wasn't reading this guy and that could 912 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:38.400 have been the reason that that the reveal happens. That's good idea, But 913 00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:44.199 I counter that and say he can't use the temporary power to save the day, 914 00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:46.239 right, because that would because that would defeat the purpose, and that's 915 00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:51.639 a crutch he's not gonna have. They didn't think this through. I mean, 916 00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:55.599 yeah, they should have made it more clear, like, oh, 917 00:54:55.920 --> 00:55:00.960 from what he learned from this my reading stuff, he's able to read this 918 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:04.840 guy that he otherwise wouldn't have been able to. Okay, sure, and 919 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.280 that's what they think they're doing. I don't know if they are or not. 920 00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.440 I don't know because I'm because Man's a crazy guy and it's an android. 921 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:15.079 It turns out Clark just heat visions his face off. I was I 922 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:21.039 was blown away, honestly. I was like, that is a lot uh 923 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:24.280 to do if for something you're not one hundred percent certain on. First of 924 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.519 all, I didn't like the path that he takes to get there, Like 925 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.679 you said, all those facts that he goes through, toy Man wouldn't do 926 00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:35.159 this, and you wouldn't be human error and all this stuff, and I'm 927 00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:39.920 like, you're like literally jumping from conclusion to conclusion here, and also what 928 00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:45.119 if you're wrong? And also why not like just just X ray vision this 929 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:50.599 dude. They should have put in a shot of X ray vision. Absolutely, 930 00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.880 they should they should have done that. And then he kills him. 931 00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:54.599 But that was so shocking, though we would have lost the shock factor if 932 00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:59.039 he had just melted his face off in this in the smovel toy Man we 933 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:01.679 have not seen never about before in the comics. That's a very common thing 934 00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:05.599 like that. There's a whole thing where I believe and this is get kind 935 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.519 of kind of dark here, but like and as I understand it, in 936 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:15.079 the comics, a toy Man killed Cat Grant's son, but then they kind 937 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.760 of softened the character later, Well, that was an android duplicate of toy 938 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:22.920 Bad. So like that's they've done that before. And and I think on 939 00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:29.320 Supergirl even because the son of toy Man Win shot well Kara's friend at the 940 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.760 at the CatCo on Supergirl Show, but there was an episode of the first 941 00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:35.159 season with his dad, the proper toy Man. I think he was like 942 00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:37.960 an android in that too, So that's a that's a thing like that, 943 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:43.840 that's a thing for the character. But in this universe to have a perfect 944 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:47.239 because he's there's no indication this guy is an android, Like he's just acting 945 00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:51.840 like normal and all that stuff. It's it's a big leap. And we 946 00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:53.920 just had Metallo a couple episodes ago and that was Oh luka, there's advanced 947 00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:59.440 really in technology. Even this guy over here just made a freaking what the 948 00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:04.159 what's the life model decoy? Right? Yeah, this is some wild tech. 949 00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.679 I mean, like, I just am still shocked that he just heat 950 00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:13.599 visions his eyeballs out, and like, like what made him think that that 951 00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:16.440 was a good idea even if it like like even if it was a robot, 952 00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.400 he was not in any danger. No, Like it wasn't doing anything. 953 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:23.480 It was just talking to him. I was just I was shocked when 954 00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:25.480 I saw it. I'm like, that's a very like Superman thing to do 955 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:29.800 if he knows he's dealing with a robot. But like, this is Clark 956 00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:32.679 Kent who's not exactly sure of himself and is confused right now, and I'm 957 00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:35.880 just gonna, okay, I guess we're going for it. Hey man, 958 00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:37.800 We're in season nine, now, Okay, this is what we do. 959 00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:40.199 This is how we handle our problems. And then he's like, no one 960 00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:45.679 wins a game if you both lose, Like I think that was supposed to 961 00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:47.239 be a profound statement, but I'm like, well, yeah, obviously, 962 00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:52.159 yeah, that's like his like I got you to you in right, So 963 00:57:52.199 --> 00:58:00.159 it turns out that it was on a timer, right, the the the 964 00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.119 bomb that Oliver's standing on, and Clark kills me like, well you you 965 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.679 wouldn't want to be blown up too. You want to dance on his grave. 966 00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:07.719 So that's how I know you're an android or whatever. Right, So 967 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:09.800 Oliver steps off the plate, he thinks he's gonna die. Clark's like, 968 00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.039 oh, well, how did you know it wasn't real? And Oliver's like 969 00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:17.400 I didn't. Clark's like, oh, you were more disturbed than I thought. 970 00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.880 Yeah. That just kind of hangs there for a while. It's like 971 00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.880 they really want you to know that that Oliver is kind of has a death 972 00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:28.760 threat. He's a he's not in a good place mentally. That's rue, 973 00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:30.480 yeah, you know. And they followed up with a scene on like the 974 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.320 balcony with Oliver and Clark, and I think it's a pretty good back and 975 00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.719 forth. And Clark's like, yeah, there's danger all around me and I 976 00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:42.079 was missing the warning signs and and that's why he needed this lesson apparently, 977 00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:46.039 And uh, he does mention that Chloe followed the feed from the ear piece 978 00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:50.079 that toy Man had Oliver where and they already arrested toy man. I'm like, 979 00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:52.239 okay, And for a minute, I was like, are we ever 980 00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:54.719 gonna see the real toy man this episode? At all of it? But 981 00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:58.800 see, but that's why those those shots of like his eyes in his mouth 982 00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:00.719 are really were clever, because you thought, oh, it's because he's in 983 00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:01.960 the crowd and they want to reveal that. No, it's because he wasn't 984 00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:06.519 even there. Like that tracks like it's as absurd and blindsided as we were 985 00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.280 by that robot tracks from what they showed us to that point. Anyway, 986 00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.639 if we're to assume he's he's a mechanical genius, which I guess test does. 987 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:17.559 But arm was there, right, Okay, need to play some math 988 00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:25.039 here, Oliver says. And he's talking to Clark and they're reconnecting here and 989 00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:30.519 Clark apologizes for not being their first friend and stuff. So Oliver starts talking 990 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:34.599 about he was five years old when his parents died. Okay, okay, 991 00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.920 his parents died in nineteen eighty nine. First shot of Smallville is the one 992 00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:43.920 of the first shots of novels. Whyn't Luther read that newspaper Queen Industry ceo 993 00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:47.079 missing it? See, so that means Oliver was born in nineteen eighty four. 994 00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:52.239 Okay, okay, tracks Lex was nine years old for the meteor shower. 995 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:57.079 He was nine when he lost his hair. Was born in nineteen eighty 996 00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:04.039 That means Lex is four years older Oliver, although they're played as contemporaries. 997 01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.599 And if you remember in season six that the whole episode where they go back 998 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.039 for like a like reunion to that private school they were at, and they're 999 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:15.880 like all the same age, and they're either all the same age or Lex 1000 01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.920 was always played as younger than Oliver and his like frat boy friends because they 1001 01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:23.119 used to pick on him for his comic books and stuff. So somebody messed 1002 01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:27.480 up on the timeline here, Oliver. Why couldn't Oliver have been nine when 1003 01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.679 his parents died, they would have the same age. Or I was twelve 1004 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.679 and he's older and he's an upperclassman picking all Lex, right, And I'm 1005 01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:37.280 like, that's like, I know, it's a little thing, but like 1006 01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:40.400 that annoyed me when I did when I ran the numbers, Yeah, maybe 1007 01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:45.920 maybe the script said nine and he just said five. You know, he's 1008 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.880 been drinking a lot. That's true, that's true. He just had in 1009 01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.840 your death experience. He was confused about the facts of his life, brought 1010 01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:58.800 to you by the show that showed you a tombstone for Jonathan Kent, which 1011 01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.519 said he was born like six years before we saw his mom pregnant with him 1012 01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:07.000 in flashback episode in season three, So no surprising. Look, I don't 1013 01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:08.920 say this to like tear the show down. I find it fun to kind 1014 01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:13.400 of try and make these things work because I know they got lots of people 1015 01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.519 and lots of episodes and seasons apart, and no one's no one. Now, 1016 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:19.159 if I were running a show, I would have some master timeline or 1017 01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:21.199 something, but you know I don't have that kind of These people are trying 1018 01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:23.159 to crank out twenty two episodes of season Okay, things like this are gonna 1019 01:01:23.159 --> 01:01:27.039 slip with the cracks, right anyway, we're Star Trek fans. We know 1020 01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.960 how it is. We certainly do, that's for sure. But you're telling 1021 01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:34.599 me that, Oliver, that means he's That means he's twenty five right now 1022 01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:38.559 like his man's twenty five. That means he was twenty two and season six 1023 01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:43.840 and he was around with the Green Arrow. Yeah, he definitely does not 1024 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:45.800 seem that age. No, I mean to be fair, none of them 1025 01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:49.719 do. None of them are age appropriate. Yeah, Clark seems like he's 1026 01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:54.880 thirty now he's actually twenty one. But look, this is a good pep 1027 01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:57.840 talk between the two of them, and they seem to, you know, 1028 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.960 we'd be back on the same page after having a rift, which was developing 1029 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.760 all through last season and especially at the finelle. So I like how there's 1030 01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.800 some sirens and Olivers like sounds like they're playing your song, Go Go Save 1031 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:09.920 the world, don't go be here. That was cute, I thought, 1032 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:16.039 Yeah, So then Clark runs off and and and then oliver S's reflection in 1033 01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:21.559 the window and who is it? Dan? It was lex Or or somebody 1034 01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:24.440 that looked a little bit like lex someone who looked vaguely enough like micro rose 1035 01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:28.679 mom if we put him in the shadows. Now, I thought, did 1036 01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:31.519 they get the same guy from recrihem the last toy Mate episode, because you 1037 01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:36.199 know Darth Lex as we've called him, run with the mask and the shadow 1038 01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.079 and the bandage because that I don't know what they did that CGI trickery or 1039 01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:42.480 whatever they did that was like that looks like micro roseam would a bandage like. 1040 01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:44.960 I thought they did a good job with that. This guy was like, 1041 01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:49.840 uh, Aaron Howie is the actor. This is the only thing he's 1042 01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:53.360 ever been in. Wow. But he did write something called Dance of the 1043 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:59.320 White Tiger. Those are his only two IMDb credits. So I guess they 1044 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.880 just thought they put out some casting call for someone who would shave their head 1045 01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:06.800 and look vaguely enough like micro Osamon if we put enough shadows on him. 1046 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.400 But this is just to show you that, like Lex's murder is haunting Oliver 1047 01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:14.199 and he he throws a drink at the reflection and then it the I don't 1048 01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:15.320 know, this is kind of cool. The liquid phase down and becomes Oliver 1049 01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:17.719 like he's you know, I don't know like that was that was. It 1050 01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:22.199 was totally needless and melodramatic, But fine. I guess they couldn't really pay 1051 01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:28.159 for micro Rosenbaum's rights for a reflection. They just want you to know. 1052 01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:30.119 Oliver is not in a good place there, it is, even even though 1053 01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:34.000 he just he just had a good talk with Clarke. He'sid not cured so 1054 01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:37.039 to speak. Right, he needs a hug. I think, really he 1055 01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:39.800 doesn't need a hug so because the toy man, real toy man, real 1056 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:44.519 toy man and any custody here he screaming that he wants a lawyer, right, 1057 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:46.480 and then Test walks in. I had known memory of this. But 1058 01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:49.679 Test is doing all, like you said, testing all kinds of things. 1059 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:53.559 Yeah, she can do whatever she wants. I mean, is he him 1060 01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:58.119 just jail? Like is he just like County jail or like you know, 1061 01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:02.880 Metropolis jail, because she says she bribes the guard but there's more than one 1062 01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:05.679 person out there. Whatever, it's fine, it's easy. It's just such 1063 01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:09.360 a way to get her in there. But she shoots a guy. I 1064 01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.280 mean, she shoots in fullice custody, so you know, me and the 1065 01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:15.400 guard. After understanding, you try to escape and he shot you in the 1066 01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:17.840 leg, and now you're gonna get solitary. I noticed that she's like she's 1067 01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:21.079 like wearing like more eyeshadow because she's evil in this scene. It's something I 1068 01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:24.880 noticed when she first showed up in season eight, Like the first couple episodes, 1069 01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:26.840 they weren't like sure what they were gonna do with her, Like, 1070 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:29.000 well, she's the new legs and she's bad, and like they kind of 1071 01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:31.000 like gave her that I don't know, like the heavy eye makeup, implies 1072 01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:34.360 you're evil. That's TV language. We all know this, right, So 1073 01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:39.199 she's more in this scene and uh, she's like, no, Solitaire is 1074 01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.000 gonna be good for you and your new toy. And she opens up this 1075 01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.960 case and it's Metello's heart from a couple episodes ago, and she wants him 1076 01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:47.119 to figure out how works. And they're on the same page about it. 1077 01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:50.599 He's excited about it, she's excited about it. That actually makes a lot 1078 01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:59.079 of sense because apparently winslow Shot is a cybernetic genius. Sure ye like robotom. 1079 01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.280 Now he just needs to put a crypt kryptonite hard in one and Clark 1080 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:08.320 won't be able to laser. I guess yeah. I don't know if they 1081 01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:12.480 ever call back to this. I mean, Metalla does show up later in 1082 01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:15.440 the in the season again, and then when and then when toy Mann is 1083 01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:19.639 forming a legion of dow Uh, a stunt double of Brian Austin Green is 1084 01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:25.079 there at the table and Shadow I'll say that, so there's a connection there, 1085 01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:30.079 But I don't I don't ever remember this coming up verbatim anyway for the 1086 01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:31.719 rest of the season. But but he's going away for jail for a while 1087 01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:33.480 and the next time we see him, he's in jail. So I think 1088 01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:39.000 he's been in jail this whole time, do you okay? Again? Her 1089 01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:45.480 plan is to give him this advanced alien technology so that he can work on 1090 01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.719 it while he's in jail. What is he working on it with? Like? 1091 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:53.000 What is he just looking at it like holding it, like absorbing it 1092 01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:57.960 through his fingertails. It's just he doesn't have too old lady, like, 1093 01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:00.480 what is he supposed to do? That's that's fine, it's fine. That's 1094 01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:04.559 a good point. Lex would have taken him out of jail, put him 1095 01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:09.000 in the level thirty then one or something. But she doesn't want to hold 1096 01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:11.840 anyone against their will. She's gonna let the state hold them against their will, 1097 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:15.000 right anyway. But I think that was a fun way, and I 1098 01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:16.119 forgotten about that. I think it was a fun way just kind of connect 1099 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.480 things, especially earlier in the season, and it does track and it makes 1100 01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:24.320 sense. So then you gonna wrap up Seat of the Daily Planet. Lois 1101 01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:28.239 comes in wearing sunglasses. I took that a shorthand like she had a hangover. 1102 01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:30.840 Maybe she went home and drank some because she was depress about all they 1103 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:35.599 things went with Clark, and we see a an article that Clark had written 1104 01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:39.639 with a byline with both of them take a screenshot of this. It's fun 1105 01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:44.159 and I think this is a very smart and very cute way for Clark to 1106 01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:46.199 kind of patch things up with her. Yeah. No, I again, 1107 01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:49.519 I've already mentioned how much I love all this stuff, but it's it's really 1108 01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:55.480 good relationship building, where like she's she was upset and still is too little 1109 01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:58.760 to a degree, but he is making right. He's making it right. 1110 01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:02.960 He understood that he screwed up and is trying to help her, and it's 1111 01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:06.199 so cute. It's such a great little scene. And then they talk about 1112 01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:10.320 a real date at some point as well. Yeah. Yeah. And in 1113 01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:15.440 Smallville the Official Magazine number thirty four with Erica Durantz and she talks about this 1114 01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:19.000 episode a little bit and where Lewis is the Clark, and she says, 1115 01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:26.000 quote, Lois is still trying to figure out what she's feeling for Clark. 1116 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.360 She's drawn to the blur as well. In some ways she sees something unique 1117 01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.079 in Clark, so she's drawn to him first. It's very confusing for Lois, 1118 01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:35.920 and I don't know if Lois really believes Clark feels that way about her. 1119 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:40.880 Again, Lois is protecting herself, which is why there's a constant cover 1120 01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:44.239 whenever she's around him. What if he doesn't feel that way, then it 1121 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:46.239 would be really awkward. Right now, Clark is a great friend, so 1122 01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:50.400 it's more her fear of messing up another friendship, especially as this one is 1123 01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:55.280 so important to her. She's basically afraid to move forward and really step out 1124 01:07:55.639 --> 01:08:00.119 on a limb to tell him. Speaking of that quote, I laughed out 1125 01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:03.079 loud in her and she's like, is that supposed to be an oli branch 1126 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:05.760 because there's gonna be a whole tree in there. Yeah, that was good. 1127 01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:10.320 Her one liners are always funny. But you know, it's interesting that 1128 01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:14.960 just listening to that and then thinking about because in this episode, I mean, 1129 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:18.199 it's it's very clear that she definitely has feelings for Clark, like she 1130 01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:24.520 she in her head. She's getting all excited every time they're talking, even 1131 01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:28.000 when she's talking to Chloe, like she's excited about it. So she you 1132 01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:30.760 know, she's there, Her character is there in that place. They're just 1133 01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:36.039 I think teasing it for even a little bit longer, did you cock the 1134 01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:40.920 Lois is left handed. Apparently I didn't. I did not. She takes 1135 01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:42.359 because of course, like, oh, you help me with this article, 1136 01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:45.760 and she started marking up and I'm like, whoa. First, I guess 1137 01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:48.079 Erica durantsmust have left handed. I'll else, why would you do that? 1138 01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.600 But now I'm like, have we ever seen this? So we were? 1139 01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:54.640 Do we know this before? Like, I'm just so fascinated about it? 1140 01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.680 You're not left handed? Are you dead? I am not? No? 1141 01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.600 Okay, dad, the odds are the near of us were because this is 1142 01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:01.039 only two I don't know, Like, I just I'm gonna keep an eye 1143 01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:03.199 on for that now and never I never get it a second thought before. 1144 01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:06.439 I'm sure we've seen Lowis Wright things on this show, but I don't know. 1145 01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:09.560 They just just the fact that, like they dwelled on it a little 1146 01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:11.920 longer. I'm like, wait a minute, that's her left hand, So 1147 01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:14.640 I'm gonna keep an eye out for that. But no, this is this 1148 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:16.279 is real. This is real cute. And they talk about being stood up 1149 01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:18.720 and about on a date and Clark's like, well, it's a good thing. 1150 01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:24.359 It was just like a date, super cute. He's really trying. 1151 01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:27.880 Uh, He's used that excuse like three times in this episode. He thinks 1152 01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:31.000 it gets him out of everything, and does it? Does it? Does? 1153 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.439 They talk about second chances and he's like, well, you know, 1154 01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:38.479 how would a guy get a second chance? She's like a slow news day 1155 01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:40.680 and he's like, well, those doesn't happen very often. She's like, 1156 01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:43.760 yeah, well, hypothetically speaking, and he's like, well, hypothetically speaking, 1157 01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:48.159 and then she says, my thoughts exactly look at that episode about mind 1158 01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:54.119 reading what a line and on. And then they do this like kind of 1159 01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:58.920 like camera like does it like almost like a like a like a half circle 1160 01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:00.359 around just to see them and Daily Planet logo. I'm like, okay, 1161 01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:03.119 I get why you did that. I don't think we needed that. But 1162 01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:08.800 it's like, remember it's low as the clerk in the Daily Planet. An 1163 01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:12.560 unmotivated camera move, I guess is my commentary there at the end. But 1164 01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.119 no, that's a really cute scene. And so that's the thing. Like 1165 01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:16.840 we've been talking through this and we've been poked some holes in it, but 1166 01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:21.119 I just like the strength of this episode is the two of them and their 1167 01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:25.680 interplay, isn't it. Yeah, it definitely is, And I wish I 1168 01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:30.520 mean, you know, God, I kind of wish there was less Oliver 1169 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.560 stuff and just more of that, like like make the whole episode sort of 1170 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:38.680 farcical and fun like that. You could keep the toy man stuff maybe and 1171 01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:41.079 I don't know how you'd be able to tie it in at this point, 1172 01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:44.960 but you know, maybe something else then, but maybe maybe two less scenes 1173 01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:47.920 of Oliver in Mexico and just have him show up at this yeah event, 1174 01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:50.960 right, So yeah, that's true that they almost didn't go because in my 1175 01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:53.720 mind I was like, Oh, that's the fun and where he has the 1176 01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:56.600 mind powers, right yeah, And I'm like, oh, it's it's Oliver 1177 01:10:56.680 --> 01:11:00.439 and tests and she has a newsy and there what are you doing? So 1178 01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:03.720 anyway, No, no, no, that's great and and but you end 1179 01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:06.600 on this on this little moment, and you know that the season's been building 1180 01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:10.680 more towards like them finally being a couple, and and this is just really 1181 01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:13.760 building towards that. So it's a really delightful and to what I thought was 1182 01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:20.479 a really delightful episode Small Vale season nine on Blu ray and DVD. Between 1183 01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:27.960 two worlds, You sent me here to fulfill destiny Between two lives t boos 1184 01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:33.880 and fate loss one hero must decide his destiny. You have no idea what's 1185 01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:39.199 up against this? Now season nine sores with amazing extras that take you into 1186 01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:45.159 the heart of the Justice Society of America. Small Ville season nine on Blu 1187 01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:54.840 ray and DVD September seventh. Echo got an eight point two out of ten 1188 01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:59.800 on IMDb, and Neil Billy from The Superman Hope Age gave it a three 1189 01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:03.560 zero point five out of five, and his exact quote is, quote, 1190 01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:10.800 Eh, wasn't that bad? Wasn't that great? Cool face melt I give 1191 01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:14.399 a three point five five. So even even Neil, who has been pretty 1192 01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:16.479 down on this show, was won over by the face melt. Dan, 1193 01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:20.600 It's a big moment, man. It's a It's a bold choice, that's 1194 01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:25.880 for sure. Now. On the letter grade scale A to F, what 1195 01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:29.199 would you give this episode? It's it's tough for me, it really is. 1196 01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:34.000 It's just it's it's parts of it are weird and like disconnected and and 1197 01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:40.039 there's a lot going on. But I just love the Clark and Lewis, 1198 01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:44.600 you know, I'd say, given a strong B, maybe B plus, 1199 01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:47.239 I'll give it to B plus And on the on the the strength of those 1200 01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:51.920 two characters, and I thought the Toyman stuff was interesting as well. Uh, 1201 01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:56.359 and then of course you know the face melter, So what else can 1202 01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:59.439 you say? Yeah, you know, going in this, I was like, 1203 01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:01.159 oh, miss, let's like an A A minus like talking through it. 1204 01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:06.720 There are some some messy parts of this episode. So I'm gonna be 1205 01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:10.000 in align with you. I'm getting you hear a B plus on the strength 1206 01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:12.560 of them, on the strength of performs. Hey, I enjoyed toy mat 1207 01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:15.039 right and then and then then and then that faceball gives it the plus absolutely. 1208 01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:17.560 But yeah, the Oliver stuff, I didn't remember it, and I 1209 01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:23.079 understand why because it's so just disposable and forgettable. And have they lean more 1210 01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:27.399 into the and or had a message of like, yes, and this is 1211 01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:31.039 why you shouldn't abuse this power, or this is what you've learned from this. 1212 01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:34.199 But there's no like I thought there should be like a recap of Jorelle 1213 01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:36.359 or something like, well, thanks for giving me that. I guess now 1214 01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:39.960 you have unlocked the But there's none of that, right, not that it's 1215 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:42.680 necessary, but I don't know, like it just it feels like they got 1216 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:45.720 really far in this idea and then just is kind of like, just like 1217 01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:46.840 the episode itself, that just take the power away, like it's done, 1218 01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:53.920 We're done with that. It just away exactly. But that's gonna be a 1219 01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:56.560 B plus for me, a B plus for you. Let's go to the 1220 01:13:56.600 --> 01:14:00.159 tally board. Just a couple of things this week, Hospital visit plus three, 1221 01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:08.680 the three uh workers from Oliver Queen's sweatshopoes. I guess yeah, that's 1222 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:12.720 gonna be my biggest takeaway now this somede. But that's gonna bring us to 1223 01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:16.520 one hundred and thirty nine. One hundred and thirty nine so far. I 1224 01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:20.119 am hoping, and I think we have a shot we can get to two 1225 01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:25.239 hundred before this show's over. Hospital visits, we'll see, uh, but 1226 01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:29.439 that's one hundred three nine so far. And then Lois's costume closet, like 1227 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:32.199 we discussed, Hey, she's making literally making an outfit to go to this 1228 01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:38.039 monster truck rally plus one. That's gonna bring us to ten so far. 1229 01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:43.439 And hey, Bechdel test fail, big time fail, because all Chloe and 1230 01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:47.159 Lowe's talk about is clark yep. Oops, oh there you have it. 1231 01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.279 There you have it. Well, then always a pleasure to have you on. 1232 01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:55.239 I'm glad Clark got another power, so we can talk about another episode. 1233 01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:58.159 If people want to find you and your podcasts out there online, where 1234 01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:02.079 can they find you? Yeah? I host a Star Trek podcast over on 1235 01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.199 the Nerd Party Network. It's called SETI Off the Three. We three guys, 1236 01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:09.640 we just chat about all things Star Trek and who boys are a lot 1237 01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:12.920 going on in Star Trek right now, so uh, come give it a 1238 01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:15.920 liston. It's a good show. Uh, and that's where you can find 1239 01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:17.439 me. Awesome. Yeah, I hate The Card season three, right, 1240 01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:25.239 dream come true? It was a thing, that's for sure. Oh maybe 1241 01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:28.119 not a dream come true for you. Go check them out on City Off 1242 01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:30.720 the Three. So they had to think about The Cards three. I loved 1243 01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:31.720 it. I love the Card season three. I was. I was not 1244 01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:36.159 too excited about The Card season one and two, but season three gave me 1245 01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:39.000 everything I was looking for. So anyway, no, no coachat now, 1246 01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:41.000 I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go right now and find out what you guys 1247 01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:43.840 talk about it over there? So there what a tease? What are But 1248 01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:47.880 anyway, well, well we'll have you back on. Uh you know before 1249 01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:49.920 the show's over. I might not have to be a new power episode. 1250 01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:53.520 But that's always fun talking small with the dance, and we'll find a spot. 1251 01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:57.840 So sounds good, sounds good. 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