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The following present is Del Marvis Studios
Production. Welcome back to truth seekers from

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around the world. It's time for
another edition of the flat Earth Files.

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I hope this podcast finds you well. Everybody's doing okay. We have a

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great guest standing by her name's Colleen. We'll bring her on in just a

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moment before we kick things off.
Just a couple of quick housekeeping items,

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Please do stop by the website.
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Check out our chat room, our
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join the podcast like Colleen is today, please reach out to us. The

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email address is the flat Earthfiles at
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flat earth Files at gmail dot com. We still got a ton of emails

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from people who were physically at the
debate Saturday night, a lot of interesting

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takes. Enjoy reading them, and
again thanks to everyone who was reached out.

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Again, that is the flattereth Files
at gmail dot com. Without any

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further ado, let's bring on our
special guests for today. Good afternoon,

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Colleen, how are you doing today? Good? How are you doing great?

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Thanks for coming on the podcast.
Why don't you take a few moments

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and introduce yourself to the audience.
Okay, my name is Colleen. I

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just turned fifty in September, and
I discovered your podcast when I was listening

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to Joe Rogan, so a little
bit of background on podcasts and listening to

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things. I am a cyclist,
so I have ridden every day for since

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February sixth of twenty twenty. I
have not missed a day of riding my

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bicycle outdoors that snow, ice cold. I ride. On good days,

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I ride about twenty five miles.
Sometimes I do fifty. So I have

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a ton of time to listen to
music podcasts. I'm a huge Beatles fan,

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so I dug deep into the catalog. My mom was a teenage fan,

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so I've always been a fan.
So I would get sometimes a little

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bored and venture over into podcasts.
And I love classic music, so I

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would dig into music podcast like the
Osbournes, anything about music. And then

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one day I thought, well,
I'm gonna listen to Joe Rogan because he

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has been in the news a lot, and so I decided to do that.

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And then when I did that,
I seen another podcast pop up,

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and it was the Flat Earth Files, and it was kind of like,

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WHOA, I don't know what to
think about this. So I actually listened

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to the first podcast and it just
blew my mind completely. I was I

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had seen it before, I've seen
like memes of it, I've seen things

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on TikTok, but it really kind
of threw me off. I just I

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wasn't ready for it, I guess, so I didn't know what to think

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of it. And when I actually
heard your first episode, that's what changed

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everything. And I was literally riding
my bike one evening and nowadays, you

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know, now it's darker earlier,
so if I get off work, I

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have to go when I can go, and usually that's nighttime. And I

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was on a two lane road in
the middle of nowhere, and I just

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I had this crazy feeling come over
me, like oh my gosh. Everything

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just clicked. So I didn't really
have to it didn't have to sit on

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my mind very long. It was
just there and what you said and the

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way you presented it just I just
I can't even describe the feeling. I

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was like, whoa, he's right
up there. So it just it was

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an awakening, extreme but instant,
and I didn't have I didn't have to

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think about it. I didn't have
to lose sleep over it. I just

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knew it was right right away.
Now, have you been down the quote

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unquote rabbit hole before or was this
kind of your first, you know,

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dive into the truth community. I
have been down many rabbit holes. I'm

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kind of a researcher. I dig
into things. I had many suspicions about

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things before, but I wouldn't say
that I was fully awake. So,

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for instance, when nine to eleven
happened, I think I was like twenty

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six or so twenty seven, and
I remember where I was. I remember

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flipping on the TV in the conference
room. I remember the days following that

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and thinking, we've got to fix
this, let's go to war. I

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was ready because I was watching TV. And it was then I started hearing

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some alternative theories and I was like, looking at the way the buildings collapse,

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and I was like, wait a
minute, that doesn't make any sense.

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And that's when I started to dig
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the things that I saw didn't make
sense. And then I found like the

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engineers, there was a website back
then with the engineers that said this couldn't

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happen, So it was always in
the back of my mind, but I'd

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never really dug deep, deep,
deep until I many years later, and

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that was through my discoveries of the
pharaceutical industry. What a rabbit hole that

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is is as well. The architects
and engineers for nine to eleven is something

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that really kind of confirmed my suspicions
when you had at that time, I

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think over twenty five hundred people who
were actually certified architects and engineers that this

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is what these people do for a
living. And the guy made it very

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clear. Now listen, if above
the eighty fourth floor, if that kind

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of crumbled and fell over and the
rest was standing, I think people would

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have bought it. But for the
way it imploded, from the squibs,

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which were obviously some type of internal
detonation. The pictures of the I mean,

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we could go on and on and
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that was a punch in the stomach
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You know, in our minds,
you know, these people from the

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Middle East just killed three thousand of
our fellow citizens, and we were ready,

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you know, us in the army. I was ready to go.

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Let's let's go get our revenge,
and then in retrospect when you find out

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the truth, it's maddening. I
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afraid of what I was bringing into
the world, Like I didn't want to

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bring a child into this world because
it was so messed up. And I

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waited until I was thirty, oh
about thirty two to start thinking about having

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children. So it was quite a
few years later, and I told my

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husband, I'm like, if this
doesn't happen soon, we're I'm not doing

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this. So yeah, it definitely
threw my whole It shook me to the

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core. And I remember like right
after it happened, I was making patriotic

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ribbons, I had little flags,
I was handing mopped all my coworkers.

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It was just really it shook me
to my core. So definitely changed my

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life in a good way. In
a bad way. Yeah, So it

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was definitely an experience. That's really
interesting because I've actually had conversations with two

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people in just the last week,
both of them listeners that has said that

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they're not sure if they want to
bring children into this world today because just

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the way everything's going they're afraid to
bring a child in to face. You

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know, we live in a pretty
evil world right now. They're not even

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hiding it anymore. At least twenty
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they were hiding it. But they're
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your take? Oh? Yes,
definitely. And it's crazy because like when

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I discovered your podcast, I absorbed
all, like, up to one hundred

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and sixteen episodes in less than two
months. Oh wow, So that's how

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much time I spend on my bike. Therefore, I have plenty of time

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to absorb all that information. And
I couldn't stop. And the first day

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when I came home, my husband
said, you got to be nuts,

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Like he thought I was crazy,
Like he's been down the rabbit hole with

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the pharm of stuff and there's so
many things, and I'll get into the

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but he's stuck with me. But
he was a marine, so he thinks

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practically he's mister on time. He's
very regimented about the things he does.

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And me, I'm just like the
dreamer, the imagination person. It's like

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Yin and Yang. I mean,
we were total opposites, but it works.

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And so he's endured some of my
craziness so to speak, and thought,

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Okay, it's just my crazy wife. It's cool. But this one

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he was really like, you are
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actually made him angry, which surprised
me. I hear that it hurt my

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feelings. I'm like, how can
you not believe me? This is the

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real thing. It's so much like
Once it hit me and then I could

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see it, I'm like, outside
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for over an hour every day.
I see the skies, I see the

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stars. It makes so much sense. It just hit me immediately, and

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I couldn't understand why he couldn't see
it. But he is coming around.

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Yeah, that's interesting because we were
all that person too before, where you

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know, at least me and I
think most people, you know, you

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hear flat earth and you just kind
of roll your eyes, you know,

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sure, Jan, But then once
you realize it, once you come to

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no flat earth and biblical cosmology,
you realize that, you know. At

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first, I was like, I
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Because of all the things we talk
about, whether it be Pharma nine to

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eleven, JFK, the moon landing
and that's thing. I never bought the

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moon landing. I thought it was
beloney, and there's probably I think I

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saw a stat that the United Kingdom, over fifty percent of the people believe

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it was a hoax, which when
you think about it, the moonlanding is

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directly correlated to the shape of our
earth. But if it's okay to have

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that conversation with a friend about the
moon landing, they'll talk about it all

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night. But the second you try
to translate it or slide the conversation to

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flat earth, you get the look
like the deer in the headlight, like

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what talking about dude? Are you
drunk? Right? And I told my

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mom and uh, She's like,
oh no, that's not right, Like

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immediately she rejected me. And then
because she's a Jehovah's witness, and I

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was raised to Jehovah's witness and so
thinking about that aspect of my life,

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like I never really took to going
to church three times a week like we

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did Thursdays, Sundays and Tuesdays,
and to me it was kind of torture.

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I mean I listened, I absorbed, I read the Bible on teen

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times over and over and over again. But it never really absorbed for me.

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I mean, I remember things,
I understand things, but yet it

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didn't resonate with me because I always
felt like, well, when I'm not

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here, I go and do things
I'm not supposed to. I say bad

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words as a kid, and I
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I was kind of a rebel and
I just kind of got a place.

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It made me mad because they do
exclude you, Like my mom had

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to write in notes. I couldn't
participate in school parties, so no Valentine's

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Day, no Christmas, like all
the kids are having fun, I had

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to go to the library. So
it really bothered me. And then when

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you go out door a door,
you might see some of your friends at

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a door, and I was just
terrified of that experience. So I didn't

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really I didn't really care for any
of that. But I got a really

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thick skin. And my parents divorced
when I was in fifth grade, so

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again I got a thick skin.
Moving around to different schools, you have

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to kind of be a chameleon and
get along with other people that you know,

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totally country kid going into the city, totally different. Yeah, I

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got in a lot of trouble and
I was a rebel. Yeah, And

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that's we had a joke in our
church growing up, because all the pastors

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children were all trouble cases. We
had, Yeah, yeah, one hundred

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percent. We used to go to
Maryland a place called Camp Pacoma for Thanksgiving

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weekend. It was of to get
away, a big barn house and you

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know, and we do the singing
and all that stuff, play football.

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But it seemed like every time we
went down there, one of the pastors

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children would get in trouble and they'd
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Because, like you said, it's
they experience different things and is I

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think part of being a child is
to rebel, and if your parents are

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in the ministry, then you're going
to rebel against that in particular, not

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in all cases, but in many
cases. I've seen a firsthand. One

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thing I found particularly interesting, and
this is something I did listen, like

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I didn't want to listen, but
in my mind would wander a lot.

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I have this huge imagination, and
even as I'm fifty, I still have

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this huge imagination and I use it
a lot. But they would talk about

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the UN all the time. The
UN was the bad guy. The UN

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was Gog of Magog, I mean, on and on and on. They

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really hit hard on the UN.
I remember that, and I could probably

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go back into my grandma's house and
she has like hundreds of books because every

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year they published tons of books,
and I could dig in and find out

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about exactly what they were saying about
the UN. But the Un was definitely

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a bad guy. And there's a
lot of family members on my husband's side

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who think that they don't believe in
Jesus, but they actually do. There's

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a lot of misnomers with witnesses,
and honestly, they when it comes to

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like holidays, which I really was
against the fact that they were against holidays

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because every other church does holidays,
and I was intent on when I got

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married, I was going to have
Christmas, and we do have Christmas and

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actually have Christmas houses behind the play
here. But they are pagan and they

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were right, and they really do
are strict about following that. And I

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understand that now as I'm older,
sure, but didn't understand it then.

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So I can't beat them up too
bad because they really did the Bible,

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and they typically followed the King James
version. But now I think they have

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their own translation, which is the
New World translation, and it does say

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spear, and my mom she was
like, no, no, it says

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spear. It says spear. I'm
like, Mom, it doesn't really say

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spear. And I think I kind
of bothered her a little bit because she

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I think she's coming around, but
she doesn't want to break that programming she's

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had her whole life. However,
she did mention to me that my great

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grandmother, who lived to be one
hundred, she died in two thousand and

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three, so she didn't never believe
the moon landing and thought it was crap

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to begin with. So I was
really excited to hear that because I always

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loved that woman. She's always been
a tough woman and she was sharp as

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attack till the day she died,
so I was very it was very heartwarming

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to learn that about her. I'm
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before the Saint World's Fair in nineteen
oh four is just really amazing. And

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I wish now that I knew more
back then where I could ask her more

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questions, because I definitely believed she
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so therefore the moon was the moon
landing was crap to her right, it

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was impossible right with the flat earth
view. Can I ask you where you

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are as far as religion and spirituality
today, yes, so I would say

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I actually can't stand organized religion,
and I've been like that for a long

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time. So we went to a
very popular church in the Saint Louis area

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for a while. It's what I
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impressed with them. It was a
Saint Louis family church. They don't they

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had TV advertisements but it never said
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said Jesus loves you. They would
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we did go there for a while, and at that point there was like

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Saint Louis Rams players that would go
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personalities that we go there, and
it became so big, Like I noticed

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that they would favor those celebrities and
not really care about the little guy,

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and that really disillusioned me as well. And I don't know, it just

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seemed that although it was welcoming,
it wasn't welcoming to every person. It

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was welcoming if you had a pocket
full of money and That's where I've always

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had a problem with organized religion was
the money involved. Like I've I've always

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talked to my husband, We've we've
married for love and not money, and

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will probably never have money, but
we'll always have love. So that's right.

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We were lucky there, but not
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but definitely still spiritual. And when
when I heard your first episode,

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that's when it hit me like,
whoa, he is right there. And

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ever since then it's actually brought me
closer to God. And I've dug out

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my Bible. I've started reading from
front to back, but I haven't gotten

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very far. I work like sixty
hours a week, so I don't have

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a ton of time, and when
you put that time that I'm on the

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bicycle, it gives me even less
time. But right now I've been absorbing

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all the podcasts and all the information
I can, and putting that all together

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in my head is just it's very
overwhelming. Wow, you are busy.

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You work at six hours a week
and a couple hours of doawn the bike.

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You don't have a whole lot of
spare time. No, Wow,

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God bless you. I don't sleep
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husband doesn't either. Being former military, we don't sleep much. And when

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you said about him being on time, that is something that's ingrained in your

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mind in the military. If you're
not ten minutes earlier late, that's the

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old what he says. He says
that all the time, and like it

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would be my sister say hey,
let's meet for lunch at twelve o'clock,

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and it's like twelve o' one.
I'm like, where is she at?

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We have a whole different mentality than
the normal person has well, and I

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feel sorry for him because I'm late
to everything. I was born three weeks

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late. I was late to our
wedding. I mean I was. I've

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been late to everything, and it
drives him absolutely bonkers. They say opposites

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a tract, right, Yes,
it's a good thing because I told him,

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like when we got married, that
we were not getting divorced, like

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one of us is going to have
to die. There you go. My

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parents got divorced and I didn't want
to repeat that. So for sure,

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one hundred percent, did you want
to talk a little bit, because this

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is very near and dear to my
heart. I have covered it at nauseum

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on my other podcast. Do you
want to talk a little bit about the

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vaccines and how it changed kind of
your life and was a big part of

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your awakening? Definitely. So I
was born in seventy three. The vaccine

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schedule, I looked it up.
I wasn't really I didn't know exactly,

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and they don't have it like did
they do now where it says exactly what

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you have to have by what month, what age. But back then,

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like in seventy two, they stopped
recommending the smallpox vaccine, which I find

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very interesting because nowadays the CDC or
FDA would never stop any vaccine at all,

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they would completely reject that. So
to think that they were somewhat on

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the up and up back then,
maybe I don't know, but I think

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when I was about three or four
months old, I got my baby vaccines

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and I turned blue and had to
be rushed to the hospital. And from

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that day on, I've had constant
allergies and asthma, those things, And

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I feel like I was kind of
an experiment as a kid because they would

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give me all these pills, these
inhalers, tell me not to participate in

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gym class, which I think all
of that was actually should have been the

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opposite, because now I know that
exercise and your health and keep moving,

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keep moving is my thing, so
I feel like those are extremely important to

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your cardiovascular health, and they were
doing the opposite. Although I did participate

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in sports back then somewhat. I
did participate in gym class, I never

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really wanted to run. I never
really wanted to do any like real cardio

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activity, which I should have been
doing. It probably would have helped build

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my lungs. Also, they never
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who knows what I was alertic to
all that time, but I was basically.

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I didn't get any shots after that
that I remember. I hated needles.

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But I was sick as a kid
all the time. I had hepatitis

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A from a school cafeteria worker.
I just would always get like chicken pox.

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I get everything, and I think
it's because my body was rejecting everything

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that came forward. So it was
like my immune system was an overdrive constantly.

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And I didn't really understand any of
that until I got to be old

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enough to be frustrated with the fact
that I couldn't lose weight and that I

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was miserable, and I couldn't breathe. I mean, I always rode my

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bike and always did those things,
but I would have asthma attacks almost every

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single time. So it's very frustrating. When I went to community college and

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this is crazy, and if I
could ever find this guy, I would,

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I feel so bad. I want
to apologize to him. But there

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was this guy in my psychology class. He was going to chiropractic school after

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he finished junior college, and he
gave me a tape and it talked about

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if you constantly slammed your finger in
a death drawer and you keep putting a

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band aid on it, but you
keep slamming your finger in the death drawer,

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You're never going to get better.
It's just going to keep hurting.

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You're going to take something to stop
the pain, but you keep doing the

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same thing over and over. And
I listened to the tape and I was

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like, Oh, he's so full
of crap. And I thought chiropractors were

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quax, and one day I was
I was. I woke up in my

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fingers on both hands, like the
last three fingers on each hand were numb,

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and I was scared because I was
like, oh, if I have

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to go to the doctor. They're
gonna say you have to get some kind

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of surgery, you go to a
neurologist, and I didn't want any of

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that. So my husband's cousin was
a chiropractor in Mississippi and he recommended that

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I go to a local one and
I did, and he was more of

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a fix you up after you've been
hurt kind of god. But that was

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my first when I realized that he
fixed it by just adjusting my vertebrae,

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I was like, whoa. So
it kind of blew my mind that we've

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been trained to just go to the
doctor and get a pill, and now

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I go to the chiropractor and get
adjusted and the pain stops instantly. So

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then it led me down. This
was my first big rabbit hole, discovering

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that the medical side of things is
more sick care and they want to keep

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you there as opposed to the chiropractors
want to help heal you, although they

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want to keep you there too,
so I can't say that they don't.

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It's just that the solution is a
non drug solution, which is what I

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really needed the whole time. Right, Yeah, there's no healthy people don't

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make good customers for big pharma,
correct, so that they want to keep

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you you sick. Yeah, that's
so much to take on from just that.

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I remember, again I've said this
before, but being being younger,

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when when somebody got the chicken pox, right, my mom would get a

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phone call, Hey, Brian's got
the chicken pox, Bring the kids down

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and we'd go play with them.
Everybody get the chicken pox, and two

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days later we've had that immunity.
Now, you know, fast forward to

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to twenty twenty, you know,
have the head of whatever Fauci was the

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head of you know, saying that, oh no, I mean it doesn't

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work, you need this vaccine,
which is really their way of saying God

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created you with flaws, you need
us to save your life. Really is

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what they were subliminally saying to us
exactly. Yeah, that was super frustrating

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for me. That first chiropractor I
went to. He did mention because I

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had mentioned that we were interested in
having kids. He goes, I'll tell

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you a dirty little secret. All
the pediatricians I know don't get their kids

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vaccinated. And I was like,
whoa really? He goes, Yeah,

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I have family members who are doctors
and they don't do that. And then

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I started digging down that rabbit hole, and once I started digging there,

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I realized that all of my issues
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And so then I was listening.
I always listened to radio, so that's

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kind of how it was conservative radio, and they would mention doctor Eric Neputi,

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I'm like hm. So I started
going to him, and he did

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analysis of my blood found out I
had all these food allergies. And what

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was concluded is that all these antibiotics, because I got to the point where

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I was allergic to every antibiotic that
was made. Now I can tolerate a

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zpac if I really need one,
but that's about all I can handle.

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Basically, what those do, the
constant antibiotics and steroids will put micro tears

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in your intestines and it just ravages
your entire intestinal area, your digestion,

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It messes with everything, and then
you can't absorb nutrients. I had a

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yeast infection in my blood stream,
which I had never even knew you could

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have. I've never heard of it. So doctor Naputi helped me get through

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all of that to where I could
now ride my bike in ten degree weather

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and not have an asthma attack.
So it was finding that I alertic to

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things until all of those those micro
tears in my intestines healed. But it

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took a long time, and I
was actually at one point kind of addicted

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to pregnazone. So they would I
would get a sinus infection which would go

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down in my chest, and then
they would give me antibiotics and then steroids,

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and then like three months later,
we would go through the same process

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over and over and over again.
And I went to a pulmonologist who's renowned

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in the Saint Louis area. He's
been around a long time, but it

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was the same thing over and over
and it never made sense to me.

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So I got frustrated, and that's
how I got to doctor Eric, who

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helped me figure this out. And
I was like, Wow, all this

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time, nobody gets to the root
cause of the problem. They're just putting

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a band aid on it. And
it made me think of that poor guy

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that I called a complete quack and
idiot in junior college, and I feel

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bad. Someday, if I ever
find him, I'm gonna apologize. But

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I had no idea, and that's
when I decided that my child would not

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be getting any vaccine because if I
had a reaction to it, the chances

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of her having that same reaction and
her having a lifelong misery, I couldn't

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do that. So I was very
scared about that though, because then,

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like w she was small, I
was worried about her going down the street

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and playing with kids. It just
got their vaccines for kids. If you

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go to a hospital like in ICU, it says, if you've been recently

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vaccinated, don't come in here.
So they knew that vaccine shed. So

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that was another clue, like,
oh, what if the kids down the

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street just got vaccinated and now they're
going to shed to my kid and they're

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not protected. But she's compared to
all the kids her age, she's a

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lot less ill and she's smarter.
And I hate to say that, but

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it's the truth. And we also
homeschool her. It is. And what's

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really kind of alarming to me,
and I know I'm not the only one

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who notices this. It seems like
the children, let's just say ten,

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maybe thirteen and under, they don't
seem to have that same emotion and kind

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of outgoing personality that unvaccinated children don't. And I think that's just my observation.

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I don't know if that's something that
you've noticed over the years. Absolutely,

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I notice what I call well one
of your guests mentioned it, and

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I'm like, that's what it is. The floride stare. They just they

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look off into space and they are
just completely like they won't interact or they'll

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hide behind their parents. I noticed
that, And here's my kid like running

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to hug these kids and they're like
running the other things you're running away.

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So it's it's kind of crazy,
Like I've definitely noticed a difference. And

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plus, when we decided to homeschool, the reason. Part of the reason

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was is our work schedules and my
mother in law, my mom actually homeschool

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her. That's awesome and it's I
would never trade that for a million years,

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especially with what happened during COVID.
I'm glad I made the decision.

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Those decisions of not vaccinating homeschooling were
scary, and I felt like I get

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a lot of scorn from other parents. There's people at work that would say,

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oh, well, what about her
social interaction? And I'm like,

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you have not obviously met my kid
who cannot shut up sometimes like when she

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comes home. I just got a
headache because she's just like up. But

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I appreciate that. I mean,
she's like my little mini me. So

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I definitely am glad I made those
decisions. And I just I don't I

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have a thickset skin about it,
so I don't. Really it doesn't bother

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me. I sometimes it does because
it's like they always think the same thing

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about homeschool kids, but there are
a lot of them are really smart and

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a lot more mature than kids their
age. Yeah, that was the joke

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because I'm about your age, and
it was the same thing growing up.

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Oh that's a homeschool kid. You
know, he's going to have issues growing

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00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.799
up. And that was again in
retrospect to the furthest thing from the truth.

409
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.079
And when you were talking about everybody
when they go to the doctors,

410
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.680
they're just getting pills, they're getting
vaccines. Again, all these things just

411
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.599
treat the symptoms. They do not
treat the disease or the disorder and the

412
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:22.880
body. And anybody who's ever listened
to a sixty second pharmaceutical commercial, it's

413
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.799
fifteen seconds of what it can do
for you. In the next forty five

414
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.200
seconds are all the side effects and
it ranged everything from stroke to death to

415
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:34.319
loss of hair. It's just why
people would trade one for the other is

416
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:40.559
beyond me. I wanted to ask
you your mom's homeschooling, and again big

417
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:45.799
congratulations for that. Is there certain
platforms she uses or a curriculum she uses.

418
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.480
Okay, so yes, we use
Rebecca, which is another family member

419
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.200
used it for their kids, and
so we just thought, well, it's

420
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:59.519
a good curriculum. We're going to
use it. It's called the Becca Christian

421
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:04.599
Curriculm. I'm trying to it's out
a Pentcacle of Florida, but they have

422
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.640
they actually send out report cards.
So my daughter just got a report card.

423
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.680
She got straight a's. Wow.
So when she doesn't go to bed

424
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:16.079
till two o'clock in the morning,
I can't really argue with her because she

425
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:22.960
gets perfect grades. But it to
me there is a lot of memorization there.

426
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:30.240
And they she told me yesterday and
it just it threw me for a

427
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.759
loop because she said they were learning
about Christopher Columbus and the teacher made a

428
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:37.839
reference to well, it's a good
thing he didn't fall off the edge of

429
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.319
the earth, and I'm like,
oh, no way. They didn't say

430
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:45.119
that, but they did. So
they even make fun of flat Earthers in

431
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:50.000
the curriculum, and they're Christian based
curriculums. So it kind of surprised me,

432
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.920
but then really didn't surprise me because
I realized that a lot of organized

433
00:32:53.960 --> 00:33:00.279
religions are just that they're organized religions
and they don't necessarily dig deep enough to

434
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:05.319
find out the truth. And that's
another reason why I tend to be turned

435
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:09.079
off by churches. And I'll put
the link in the in the show notes.

436
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.519
It's a Becca a b e Ka. I just sent off to them

437
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:16.400
asking for some information to check it
out. And they offer curriculum preschool through

438
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:21.200
grade twelve, homeschool, Christian schools, and preschools. And that is a

439
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.599
common theme, no matter if it's
monarch aop, alphan omega, all of

440
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:32.200
the We love the math, we
love the daily you know, Bible lessons,

441
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:37.000
the English is great. But when
it gets to science and gravity and

442
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:42.319
the moon and all of that stuff, it's like they just go right along.

443
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.759
Yeah, it sure does. And
that's the frustrating part. Now there

444
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:52.920
are people that are working on kind
of a Biblical cosmology type of curriculum,

445
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.880
people who were longtime teachers, so
I'm looking forward to those things that are

446
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.799
coming forward. It's funny because when
I came home and told my daughter that

447
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.880
night that the Earth was flat,
and I kind of lined it out for

448
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:12.360
she didn't even blink an eye.
I don't know if it's because I've always

449
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:19.239
told her about my alternative theories of
other things that it And what was crazy

450
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.440
is she came down the next day
with a pile of NASA shirts and said,

451
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.960
Mom, I can't wear these.
I'm like, what, It's just

452
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:29.519
a shirt. She goes, but
it has NASA logo and it's lies.

453
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.239
I had to respect that. So
I have a pile of NASA shirts that

454
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.760
I need to donate somewhere. But
nice, she did not want to wear

455
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:43.199
it anymore. And she I guess
because she's only fifteen, it didn't really

456
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:47.639
even though she's been brainwashed that entire
fifteen years with space and whatnot, it

457
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:52.280
didn't really face her one bit.
And she's like, oh yeah, and

458
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.039
when like, I've told my mom
about flatter, but I definitely haven't told

459
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:02.039
my mother in law and I probably
won't. She very strict and very religious,

460
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:06.960
and I just don't know. I
don't need that rift in my life.

461
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.079
Yeah, sure, So I probably
won't ever tell her, but Sadie

462
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:15.199
says, she rolls her eyes when
that stuff gets brought up in school.

463
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:20.039
So I bet, because look,
the indoctrination is real. There are so

464
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:25.159
many instances that that really go to
show what a web and a matrix that

465
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.199
they have built to make things where
like we should live in a world where

466
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:36.519
everything should be Leah, let let's
research this this theory and see where we

467
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:37.880
find out. You know, if
you were to go to somebody to say,

468
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.199
hey, let's research the flatter theory, they're gonna you're going to get

469
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.599
exactly that. People are gonna roll
their eyes and like, are you nuts?

470
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.079
But that really just goes to show
again how much effort that they put

471
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:55.920
in to television through the movies,
the globes being in every classroom, every

472
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:00.480
TV show, there's a globe.
Right, it's subliminally put in your mind

473
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:05.400
that right, It's just that is
it. Don't ask any questions. And

474
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.679
I get a lot of emails from
people that say exactly that when they question

475
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.400
whether it be the pastors of science
teachers, that's the answer they get,

476
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.360
Well, that's it. That's just
the way it is right, and that

477
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.719
frustrates a lot of people. If
you can't give an explanation, don't say

478
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:25.719
that's just that, because you're teaching
a child that just not to accept critical

479
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:30.639
thinking skills and to accept what they're
being told. And that's what the people

480
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:35.480
who run the Rockefellers and their indoctrination
system, that is the type of children

481
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.039
and young adults that they want to
grow. They want you to accept what

482
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:42.039
the guy on TV and that white
lab coat says, and that's it,

483
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:49.039
right. Oh yeah, And my
grandparents and my parents and probably your parents

484
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:53.000
and grandparents, because we're the same
gen X people, they will believe the

485
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:58.199
guy in the white coat no matter
what. And it's really hard to break

486
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.559
that. It took me a lot
on time to break my mom of it,

487
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.719
but she's still she's still not one
hundred percent there. She's the only

488
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.519
one I can really talk to.
My dad was a Vietnam vet. I

489
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:13.559
don't really I don't really mess with
him too much about any of that stuff.

490
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:16.599
I probably I left the flatter book
on the table and he saw it,

491
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:20.519
looked at it, and he didn't
think twice about it, So I

492
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.519
don't know. I probably won't bring
it up to him either, but my

493
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:30.320
mom, I definitely I like to
challenge her a little bit because she's very

494
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:36.559
religious. And the one thing about
Witnesses is they were never into vaccines.

495
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:42.119
And this is why I think a
lot of the organized religions have been corrupted

496
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:46.800
and secretly taken over in some way
because and that sounds a little off my

497
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:53.920
rocker, but the Witnesses were never
They would always speak out about homosexuality,

498
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:58.880
they would speak out about vaccines,
they would speak out. Now that all

499
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:04.039
of those things are very quiet,
they don't speak against homosexuality, they don't

500
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.559
speak against the vaccine, and in
fact, they encouraged it. And that's

501
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:12.519
when I was totally out. I'm
like, Mom, they She goes,

502
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.360
well, they don't make you,
and I said, that's not the point.

503
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.719
They may not make you, but
they're encouraging it. And this is

504
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.079
something they've never did. And when
my grandma was going to go get these

505
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:27.039
vaccines, I actually called her,
balling my eyes out, please don't do

506
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.000
this, Please don't do this,
because she was My grandma is the one

507
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.199
who mentioned I don't know if you've
ever heard of the Silent Spring. It

508
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.119
was a book I can't remember her
name, but she wrote it about the

509
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:45.239
DDT poisoning of the eagle eggs and
it degrades the egg shells of the eagles,

510
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:52.320
and the eagles were dying because they
weren't surviving to even hatch. So

511
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.880
my grandma was always kind of like
she was a PBS woman, so she

512
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.199
would listen to all this stuff about
climate chain and on and on and on,

513
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:06.880
but again more of a classic liberal
person who would speak out against the

514
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:12.320
man, and she always had some
alternative beliefs. But yet now all of

515
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.559
a sudden, COVID is the thing
and she's going to get this vaccine.

516
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:19.599
I'm like, Grandma, God created
us to be able to handle these things.

517
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.400
Are we shouldn't mess with our DNA, on and on, and she

518
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:27.280
did it anyway, and now she
has like five of them. And honestly,

519
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.880
I think the older you are,
you'll probably you're either gonna go right

520
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:37.559
away or you're gonna survive longer than
expected. I seem to notice one or

521
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:42.480
the other. There's really no in
between. But Grandma has dementia, and

522
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.800
that's because she believed the guys in
the white coats and that has been taking

523
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:52.480
statins for years which are your anti
cholesterol drugs. I've watched that myself,

524
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:57.599
because she started out with taking some
like fish oils and that type of thing

525
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:01.920
to lower her cholesterol. But again, these doctors have like this chart,

526
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.840
whether it's blood pressure or cholesterol and
B and I, and they go buy

527
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:13.079
a chart, and every single human
has to fit into these categories. And

528
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:17.519
if they're not getting enough prescriptions,
then they change the categories so then more

529
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.760
people fit into the bucket of oh, you need this pill. And again

530
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.519
their generations will believe what the guy
in the white co tells them, and

531
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:29.920
they'll take these things, and the
next thing you know, they're losing it.

532
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.960
Their minds aren't the same, their
bodies are falling apart. It's just

533
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:39.280
it's very frustrating to watch. And
I've always been outspoken about that. Vaccines

534
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:44.920
and pharma and it some people,
like I've told people about flu shots at

535
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.039
work. They do it every year, sign up for your flu shot.

536
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:52.239
And I told them a couple people
and they did in one year and didn't

537
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.280
get sick. And then the next
year they got all scared because the media

538
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:59.199
told them, and they got them
and they got sick. So it was

539
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:07.280
very frustrating to tell them and they
won't listen. Pardon me, no problem,

540
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.559
you take a break there for a
second. I wanted to mention a

541
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:16.239
couple of things. Number one,
I pulled up the Jehovah's witness website real

542
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:22.440
quick, and it's one of their
main FAQ questions. Are Jehovah's Witnesses opposed

543
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:28.800
to vaccination? And no, Jehovah's
Witnesses are not opposed to vaccination. We

544
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:34.360
view vaccination as a personal decision for
each Christian to make. Many Jehovah's witnesses

545
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.039
get choose to get vaccinated. It's
funny though they quote Galatians six' five

546
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:43.119
health care decisions are a personal matter. And it's kind of a stretch because

547
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.199
four verse four reads let every man
prove his own work, and then shall

548
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:52.760
have rejoicing in himself alone, and
not in another. And then the actual

549
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:58.119
verse there quoting is for every man
shall bear his own burden. So how

550
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.039
relating healthcare to however men should bear
his own burden? I guess so be

551
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.480
it. But yeah, you're right, they do not. They don't stand

552
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.760
against that anymore. And I think
again, we've seen many churches over the

553
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:15.559
last I think it really started in
the eighties and surely into the nineties sort

554
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:21.719
of merge into this modern day thinking
of getting along and coexisting in this type

555
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.320
of thing, which has caused a
lot of organized churches to kind of fall

556
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:30.639
away from the word yeah, and
they fall into what I believe, because

557
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.760
like Jehovah's Witness is kind of a
joke to people. They even comedians constantly

558
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:42.880
beat up on them. And it's
funny because they were so strong against all

559
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:46.239
these worldly things which they always talked
about when I was a kid, and

560
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:51.679
then now they're just caving to the
worldly things. And that's where I think,

561
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.239
not just them, it's many religions
are caving to and that's why you

562
00:42:54.239 --> 00:43:00.039
see the splits and the Methodists and
the Lutherans and the different religions. They're

563
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:07.599
all just kind of falling apart.
And that's what And I did watch the

564
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:10.280
debate. I listened to it first, and then I've seen a couple clips

565
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:15.320
at the end. But as soon
as I heard Great Block talk, he

566
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:22.599
was like the quintessential Southern Baptists scream
at the congregation kind of guy, and

567
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.519
I was immediately turned off. So
I've never been into that. I felt

568
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:30.079
like he was a Saturday Night Light
Live skit version of a preacher, and

569
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:37.159
it was disturbing. Yeah. I
went in with an open mind, but

570
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:38.880
I as soon as I heard him, I couldn't. I couldn't take him

571
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:43.719
seriously. Yeah, he did not. There was zero chance he was going

572
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.559
to change his mind. You could
tell that from the get go. He

573
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.039
was not open mind, had been
willing to have a conversation. And by

574
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.119
the way, the rules that apply
to journalists that if the story ever becomes

575
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.039
about you, then you've not done
your job. It goes the same to

576
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:58.320
pastors. If the church becomes about
you, the spotlights on you and not

577
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.480
God, and you know Jesus Christ, then you have failed. And He

578
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:06.000
makes people like him and Ostein and
all these people they want to be the

579
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:07.480
star, right that they want to
put on a show, and they want

580
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.239
people to, you know, adore
him. And that's really where you need

581
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.920
to check yourself. And again,
if I'm being overly critical, sorry I

582
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.119
call it as I see it again, I'll pray for him, hope he

583
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:22.559
comes around and understands his shortcomings.
But at the same time that that was

584
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:27.639
very, very uncomfortable to watch,
especially the last you know, thirty minutes

585
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.880
or so well. And there's some
preatures that I've seen on Facebook. And

586
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:35.960
if you're worrying Prada and Gucci,
I have a problem with that. I

587
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.440
just I do. I have a
problem with the money and the huge houses,

588
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:45.119
and I really have a problem with
tithing too. I don't think that's

589
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.280
what it was meant to be.
And that's why I don't believe that you

590
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:52.559
have to be in a building to
worship God. I feel like every time

591
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:57.119
I go on a bike ride and
I'm seeing the glory of his creation and

592
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:01.840
having that time to myself to reflect
and think or absorb a podcast. I

593
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:07.440
feel that when I'm when I'm out
in nature, and to me, the

594
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.000
spirituality is in myself. I don't
have to be in a building dressed up

595
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:16.039
to do that. It I'm not
a very well obviously, I'm moving constantly.

596
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:19.199
If I sit too long, I
fall asleep, which is why I

597
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:23.400
don't like to watch a lot of
movies. I fall asleep. So to

598
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:29.880
me, sitting in a seat for
two hours is absolute torture. I'm always

599
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:31.920
fidgeting around, and that's I've been
like that since I was a kid.

600
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:37.719
And my daughter's like, you're ADHD, you're autistic. It's funny because these

601
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.559
kids now, they watch so much
TikTok. Everything is a disorder. So

602
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.800
she loves to prescribe me as having
all these disorders. I'm like, I'm

603
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:51.280
just me and if that's my little
tics, then so be it. I

604
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.920
don't need to have an ism or
whatever. I'm just me. So I

605
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:59.519
tell her, I said, you
may get that for me, But it's

606
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:04.119
I don't see how they can expect
kids to sit in school all day and

607
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:09.199
not go to recess or It just
that sitting and memorizing is torture. And

608
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.000
it's the same as church because they
expect you to sit there and listen and

609
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.480
memorize, and to me, that's
not what it should be about. Yeah,

610
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:21.719
and by the way, great point
on that there's eight billion people and

611
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.280
not one of us are alike,
and they want to put a label on

612
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:29.440
certain things, and that going back
to what you said earlier, I think

613
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.840
personally, the goal of a doctor
when you walk in is for him to

614
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.519
either label you or diagnose you with
something so we can get you started,

615
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:43.719
you know, on the pharmaceutical training, because I've just seen it so many

616
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.400
times. There is literally, you
could be sitting on the little bed there

617
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:52.440
where they check you out in your
heart and everything. Oh, you're tapping

618
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.280
your foot a lot. You must
write we have something for that. I'm

619
00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:00.480
like. And the other thing you
said, which really is on point,

620
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.159
I remember just being miserable in school
because I was always in sports. I'd

621
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.639
get up at five in the morning
deliver the papers. To sit in a

622
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:14.159
chair for hours on end was literally
it seemed like almost a form of punishment

623
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.760
to me. I couldn't stand in
school. And you know, I hate

624
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.760
the word reimagine because they all use
it now we're going to reimagine this.

625
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:24.639
But I think, you know,
homeschooling and there are so many good teachers

626
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:28.800
out there. I talk to them
all the time, but they're kind of

627
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.039
handcuffed with the curriculum and what they're
allowed to do. It's not like back

628
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:38.880
in the fifties where teachers could be
creative and really be mentors. And because

629
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:43.320
they're just so handcuffed with the curriculum
today and how they have to teach it.

630
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.920
So that's why I really encourage homeschooling. And two things I should add

631
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:50.880
is number one. I know there's
a lot of people out there who have

632
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.800
found a good church and enjoy it. And that's I applaud that. I'm

633
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:58.000
so glad to hear people when they're
able to do that. And I'm not

634
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.880
bashing that. It's just I can
tell you that I've gotten thousands of emails

635
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:06.760
from people who've because listen, man, church is run by man, and

636
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.039
man is inherently flawed, so you're
going to have these type of things.

637
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:15.559
But the other thing before I forget
that book Silent Spring was written by Rachel

638
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:20.840
Carson. Yes, that's it,
And you know it's funny. Back in

639
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:23.760
the fifties and sixties, there were
a lot of people smoking. You watch

640
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:28.519
any show in the fifties and sixties
or by I was smoking a long dart,

641
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.400
right. But it wasn't so much
the tobacco that was killing people.

642
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.960
It was the DDT and the pesticides
and the chemicals that were being sprayed on

643
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:45.440
the tobacco and all the products,
and cancer was not really prevalent until post

644
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:51.440
World War Two when they started using
all these pesticides and chemicals on the things

645
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:58.320
we eat and in some cases the
things people smoke. Absolutely, that's also

646
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.519
one of the things, like I
would tell people well, I'm fair skin,

647
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:06.639
freckled red hair, but I don't
use sunscreen as much as I'm outside

648
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.960
and ride my bike in the sunlight. I may get a little burned at

649
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:13.039
the beginning of the season when it's
when I'm in a tank top, but

650
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:16.079
i'd never wear sunscreen. And people
like, oh, you're crazy, You're

651
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:20.400
gonna get skin cancer. I like, no, you're gonna get skin cancer

652
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.840
because you're putting that stuff on your
largest organ is absorbing into your body and

653
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:29.559
eventually it's going to be a problem. And I don't do like I only

654
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:34.159
do natural deodorance. I'm a little
bit. I do a lot of vitamins.

655
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.920
One thing that I've done to help
keep my gut under control is using

656
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:45.679
black seed oil with original oil,
and it tastes so bad. I put

657
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:49.000
it in white grape juice and I
take a shot of that like every day.

658
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:54.239
But that helps with your immune system. So I've definitely dug in deep

659
00:49:54.320 --> 00:50:00.400
with the holistic medicine because before all
this pharma stuff they had, they had

660
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.519
cures. They had things that would
help people that came from the earth.

661
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.880
The ground they grew all kinds of
herbs and the things that would help people

662
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:15.559
natural medicine, and because you can't
patent those things, they want to ban

663
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:20.000
all those things and say that they're
they're hurting people, but they're not.

664
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.840
And I'm just I'm hoping that it
never comes to the point where we can't

665
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:28.960
have vitamin C or vitamin D over
the counter, that we have to go

666
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:34.199
through a doctor to get those things. But you never know. I mean

667
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.960
the way things are going and the
way they poo pooed ivermectin. And I

668
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:43.679
had never really taken ivermectin until COVID, and then I actually found a way

669
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:49.440
to obtain it without going to a
doctor locally, and I was able to

670
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:57.400
overcome. I had COVID one time. The husband brought it home and he

671
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:02.360
actually was forced to get the vaccine
and he only did the We did the

672
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:07.440
Johnson and Johnson one and immediately we
went to doctor Naputi got a vitamin C

673
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:14.079
infusion, so it's a direct vitamin
C injection into your vein. It's like

674
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:19.719
a giant thing full of vitamins magnesium
B twelve. And then he also got

675
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.800
his blood dump that day, so
taking eight files of blood outer or so

676
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:29.119
it helped keep your blood clean and
clear and it doesn't clot as much,

677
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:34.559
and considering Johnson and Johnson was the
clot shot, I was very concerned about

678
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.639
that and we didn't want him to
get that, but he had no choice.

679
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.800
It just came down to the point
where, like you're our age,

680
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:46.679
it's really hard to change your whole
career at this point. So that caused

681
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:52.880
a lot of COVID was pretty dark
for me. I've never had any experience

682
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.920
like that. I hope it never
happens again. I was very against all

683
00:51:55.960 --> 00:52:00.320
of it and stood on my ground
one hundred percent the whole time. I'm

684
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:02.960
never wore a mask. I have
asthmas. I don't like things on my

685
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:08.559
face. I don't even like we're
turtlenecks. So there was no way they

686
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.679
were making me put a mask on. And when work said we had to

687
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.039
mask up, I wore a lace
mask one day and I got called into

688
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:23.039
HR. So after that I negotiated
what I call the face bucket, the

689
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:29.320
face shields and it's tilted outwards so
I had more air because even with that

690
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:34.400
thing on, it felt like I
was breathing in a fishbowl. It was

691
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.840
a whole year of torture. I
thought we're never going to get out of

692
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:45.039
this. We had a city executive
in Saint Louis that was very much Not

693
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.719
only did he work for the largest
healthcare system in the Saint Louis area,

694
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:54.280
Mercy, he maintained that job and
was the county executive at the same time,

695
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.159
which you're not supposed to do,
because somehow he got away with it.

696
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.760
And he was very i would say
to the level of fascist about the

697
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:09.800
masks and closing businesses, and very
adamant about the vaccine. And they did

698
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:15.039
kind of punish people at work who
didn't want to get the vaccine by saying

699
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.519
that we're going to charge you more
for insurance. And I did go and

700
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.400
get an exemption, and the only
thing that saved me was the fact that

701
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.679
I had the anaphylactic shock when I
was a baby, so I was thankful

702
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:30.039
for that. I'm surprised he actually
gave me the exemption. But it was

703
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:36.480
very stressful time and there's times when
I was I've never thought of taking my

704
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:39.719
own life ever. I can just
say that one hundred percent until COVID,

705
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:45.360
when it just felt like there is
zero hope, like it just was on

706
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:50.559
and on and on, and they
kept pushing and pushing, and there's times

707
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:52.920
I thought, you know, if
I just ride my bike out in front

708
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:54.840
of this semi, I won't feel
a thing, It'll all be over.

709
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.719
And I never did, of course, But I've never been that kind of

710
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:04.360
whole person. I've always been a
very optimistic person. So that was a

711
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.760
really rough time. And I just
I remember, like my daughter saying,

712
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.559
Mom, just wear the mask.
It's embarrassing. People were looking at us,

713
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.719
and I said, no, I
refuse to because if I give in,

714
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:20.159
then not only am I showing you
that I'm weak and I don't believe

715
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:24.840
in my own beliefs that I can't
stand for myself, but I just can't

716
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:30.199
do that. I can't give in. So I did refuse. And I

717
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.760
know some of them, like you
had mentioned in a previous episode, as

718
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:37.119
a private business, you need to
respect their deals. But I don't know

719
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:42.519
it just I couldn't. Yeah,
sure, and it just wouldn't. I

720
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.760
wouldn't do it. And it was. It was a rough time, but

721
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.719
I stood by my ground as far
as I could. Yep. And when

722
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:53.079
I went into the Walmarts and the
bigger stores like that without a mask on,

723
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.239
for every one person who gave you
the evil eye. There was other

724
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.719
people in there that kind of kind
of looked at you in not their head

725
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.519
in respect. Because again, if
anything like this ever happens again, whether

726
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.119
it be from a medical tyranny or
anything else, I sure do hope we

727
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:14.519
have it we do a better job
getting together and ensuring that nothing like that

728
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:19.559
ever happens again, because that was
just the most evil year that I could

729
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:23.519
ever remember. I would never have
never would have thought that we would have

730
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:28.760
endured something so evil like that,
right, especially in the US of a

731
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.920
right way, we're so free,
right, it was absolutely insane, And

732
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:37.400
just the fact that we were even
there and had to put up with it,

733
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:42.639
and then had to put up with
it from them pushing pharmaceuticals on people.

734
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:47.000
That's a medical treatment. You're injecting
something into your body that should not

735
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.559
be something forced on anyone. How
do they know how somebody's going to react

736
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:58.559
like that? Just seems completely wrong. And a lot of I do have

737
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:00.920
people that work in the metal industry, and a lot of them didn't want

738
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:06.639
to and were forced to. And
just like your wife and she ended up

739
00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:09.639
leaving, there's a lot of people. A girl I know that worked for

740
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:15.639
a company for thirty years as a
registered nurse and she quit and she's much

741
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:22.199
happier now. But it's just unbelievable
how they push a medical treatment on people,

742
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:28.239
and it doesn't make any sense to
me other than now it does because

743
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:31.320
I know what the endgame is.
But at that point I was super frustrated,

744
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:37.320
and that only made me dig deeper
into the reasonings behind it. And

745
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.320
that's when I discovered, like your
podcast that well that was only just this

746
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:45.519
September, but just that was really
enlightening because then I really seen the deception

747
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:52.440
for what it was and how encompassing. I mean, that encompasses everything.

748
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.519
If they lied about that, then
it makes total sense why they lie about

749
00:56:55.519 --> 00:57:00.360
everything else. Everything else. Yep, that's the vaccinations and you know flat

750
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:06.239
earth. All of that really opens
your eyes. And again, as terrible

751
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:09.719
as twenty twenty was, that woke
up a lot of people, a whole

752
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:15.639
lot of people, definitely, So
again, as terrible as it was,

753
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:17.280
it's waken a lot of people up. By the way. One thing I

754
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:22.079
forgot to mention. You had talked
about the sunscreens, and that's also one

755
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.639
of those topics when you mention it
to somebody, you get the eye roll.

756
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:30.480
Oh sure, whatever. It's on
the NIH's website and I'll come out

757
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:32.039
with that, yeah, twenty years
ago. I'll put it in the show

758
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:37.960
notes use of topical sunscreens and the
risk of malignant melanoma. So it's on

759
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:43.760
their website. Yeah, And it's
on and on and again. Like the

760
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.480
stuff you drink, the stuff you
eat, it's all been sprayed in some

761
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:50.599
way. And like I said,
I go outside every single day. I

762
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.960
observe the sky as a kid.
I was riding my bike all the time

763
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:58.679
too, so I never really quit. But I remember looking up the sky

764
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:04.599
and you didn't see streak everywhere.
That is definitely something that increased. And

765
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.760
I can always tell what it's going
to rain because they heavily spray the sky,

766
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:13.320
like two days in a row before
it's going to rain. And it's

767
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:19.039
ridiculous and I point that out,
Oh that's not I get so many eye

768
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:22.079
rolls about that too, And then
they come out and have actual published articles

769
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:25.679
that they're doing it, and people
still don't believe. It's like they don't

770
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:31.519
believe their own senses. It drives
me up a wall. But I mean,

771
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:36.119
I can't force a horse to drink
the water. I can't force them

772
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:40.239
to believe me that's right. And
we've talked about Operation Popeye during Vietnam where

773
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:45.119
they did cloud seating and forced it
to rain and flooded out trails. And

774
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.679
then a listener had sent me an
email England and the Royal I guess the

775
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:52.840
Royal Air Force did some cloud seating
in nineteen fifty two which caused some type

776
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:55.880
of horrendous flood. I think it
was in England. I'll have to go

777
00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:00.800
back to that email. But this
is something that's been going on seven years.

778
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:04.559
And if you think about if it's
been going on that long, how

779
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:08.760
far has the technology come and how
much are they actually able to manipulate?

780
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:15.440
Right? And from what I've researched
about chemtrails, And there was a whistleblower

781
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:19.760
in the military, and I want
to say she was in Texas and started

782
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:24.440
I think she dealt with supplies and
started noticing these barrels of things and she

783
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:28.960
put two and two together and then
she realized what was happening. She blew

784
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:32.679
the whistle and then they threatened her
and her family and she noted that they

785
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:38.119
were not able to spray anywhere over
the bush ranch, which I find interesting.

786
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:42.800
They don't have to get it,
but everybody else has to get it

787
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:47.719
crept. I noticed that in the
early, like late winter, early spring,

788
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:52.280
they're really like, the clouds are
really bad, the spray is really

789
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:57.800
bad up here in Missouri, and
that's when I have the most long issues

790
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:02.400
because I'm breathing that in that whole
time. It definitely makes the difference,

791
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:07.039
and it's frustrating. There's nothing I
can do about it, and I'm certainly

792
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.320
not gonna wear a mask, so
I just have to deal with it and

793
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:14.760
hope that I can keep my body
as healthy as possible. But we don't

794
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:20.440
drink tap water. I don't believe
in I got fluoride poisoning once. I

795
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:24.679
worked in a company that makes those
type of products. That kind of opened

796
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:30.920
my eyes as well, because I
was doing a taste test and I swallowed

797
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:37.320
a bunch of sodium fluoride and I
was extremely ill. So definitely, that's

798
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.400
another rabbit hole I went down into. And I don't We don't do fluoride

799
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:46.639
at all. Back in the I
want to say it was the late eighties

800
01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:52.119
early nineties, there was a radio
show called Stephen d. C in Saint

801
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:54.400
Louis and I don't know if they
were syndicated, and I'm not sure,

802
01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:59.000
but they're the comedy morning show guys. Ha ha ha. You know.

803
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:04.239
They would call this lady in Florida
and they called her the crazy floor eyed

804
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:07.199
lady, and they would get her
on the phone and get her all riled

805
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.000
up, and she was saying,
the flooride is bad. I'm telling you,

806
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:13.760
the flooride is bad. And they
would make fun of her incessantly,

807
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:15.800
and looking back, I was like, oh, that lady, she was

808
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:22.760
right. It just I never thought
that. You know, you think it's

809
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.639
funny at the time, but then
when you wake up, you're like,

810
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:29.360
wow, these people were right,
and they were making fun of these people.

811
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:35.000
So yeah, it's definitely they're coming
at you from every direction, and

812
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:38.360
you just got to do your best
because right now, with grocery prices being

813
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:44.440
exorbitantly high, you can't really afford
to get everything organic. You can't.

814
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:50.800
I looked in the cereal aisle for
non GMOs and you can't find a box

815
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:55.320
that is unless it's over six dollars, and there's maybe like a selection of

816
01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:01.039
four items, as opposed to a
whole isle of cereal packed with all kinds

817
01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:05.400
of chemicals. Yeah, the General
Mills and that kind of stuff. Yeah,

818
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.239
it's the same way. Here.
We have a grocery store called Redner's

819
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:12.719
and there's a very small you know, the isle is really long. It's

820
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:15.360
got two sides of General Mills and
Kelloggs and all that, and then it's

821
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:20.480
got just a very probably six feet
wide by a couple of rows up.

822
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:24.440
And I think the cheapest organic cereal
we saw was nine dollars. Yeah,

823
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:30.679
they're ridiculously expensive, and I just
kind of I gave up eating it anymore.

824
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:36.519
And definitely don't drink any kind of
milk because pasteurized milk is not good

825
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:39.880
for you, and it's definitely not
good for someone who has autoimmune disorders because

826
01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:45.840
inflammation is the enemy. So I
try to cut out anything related to anything

827
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:50.280
that would inflame my body. So
about twice a year I go get a

828
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:53.239
blood test. I haven't had an
allergy blood test in about a year,

829
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:57.639
but it would tell me like,
okay, you're allergic to corn, wheat

830
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:04.280
and pecans, walnuts. There's all
kinds of things that I was alerted to.

831
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:07.679
Peanuts that I didn't even know I
was alerted to when I was eating

832
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:12.159
these things, and I would be
inflamed from the inside out, and you

833
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:16.559
can't definitely lose weight or be healthy
when you're constantly inflamed and you can't breathe

834
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:22.360
and you're miserable. So as hard
as it is, I'm constantly watching what

835
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:27.559
I'm putting in my body. Definitely
don't drink anything out of the tap.

836
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:31.079
I'm just very conscious of it.
And although i know it annoys my daughter,

837
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:36.960
like she just wants McDonald sometimes and
we do sometimes get jump food,

838
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.400
but I can't avoid that, and
I'm not going to tell her to avoid

839
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:44.639
that, but I tell her the
reason why, and then I let her

840
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:46.920
make up her mind, and most
of the time she chooses right, but

841
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.960
sometimes she goes along with her friends. And that's fine. We can't be

842
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:57.199
one hundred percent on all of it
all the time. One it's too expensive,

843
01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:01.320
and two it's just really hard.
I think everything's okay in moderation.

844
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:04.320
I've always said that, yeah,
we do the best we can. I

845
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:09.880
mean it's hard, though, yeah, absolutely. Like I said, you

846
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:13.199
can get a dollar burger deal at
Wendy's, but if you want to sell

847
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:16.280
it's like seven bucks. It just
doesn't make any sense whatsoever, right,

848
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:21.199
And something I want to bring up
because I just thought of this not too

849
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:26.960
long ago. So back in the
eighties and nineties, there was this huge

850
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:32.039
explosion of SIDS sudden and the death
syndrome. And now I think about it,

851
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:36.920
I wonder how many people are in
jail accused of killing their kid,

852
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:44.440
like rolling over on their kid in
bed, or accused of child endangerment and

853
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.679
it was a vaccine, Like,
how many of these people were punished for

854
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:51.760
something they didn't even do. That
kind of disturbs me. And that's probably

855
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:56.800
because I'm a liver and I believe
in truth and justice. So for me,

856
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:01.639
everything has a good and and I
want to be on the side of

857
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:06.519
justice. And it bothers me that
these people are probably in jail and maybe

858
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:11.800
not anymore, but they were jailed
for things they didn't even do back then.

859
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.159
Sorry because of that. Yeah,
absolutely, And going back to the

860
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:21.480
sixties and seventies, there was evidence
with the Pertess's vaccines where you know these

861
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:25.960
they would get the vaccine and the
children would die within twelve hours and they

862
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:29.079
would blame that on SIDS. Yeah, so for all those years, oh

863
01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:30.960
it was SID Suddenly. It just
happens, right, just like they're trying

864
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:36.239
to normalize post vaccines, post twenty
twenty, all these young people a collapsing

865
01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:41.360
of heart attacks. They're trying to
normalize that. There's a commercial. I

866
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:44.320
forget who just put it out,
like you know, a twelve year old

867
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:46.440
ride his bike and he stops and
grabs his chest and it's just like again,

868
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:49.920
they're trying to make this the new
normal, right. It just it's

869
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:53.960
always happened. It's just now that
you know, we just want to put

870
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.639
it, make it public and do
what we cand to fix it. It's

871
01:05:56.840 --> 01:06:00.559
just it's maddening. But you're right, there are a lot of stories out

872
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:04.800
there about parents in jail blamed for
SIDS where and in many cases it was

873
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:11.440
due to vaccines. That's terrible.
Yeah, it's disturbing. And just the

874
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:15.000
fact that they blame parents. I
mean, yeah, maybe mom or dad

875
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.960
had a cocktail before they went to
bed, but that doesn't mean they rolled

876
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:21.840
over their kids and killed them.
Because unfortunately, I ended up. Our

877
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:28.480
daughter slept in with us for six
years. It was like torture. But

878
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.199
I had to go to work,
so I had to make sure that she

879
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:35.360
slept and I slept, and so
I wanted her. I didn't want to

880
01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:41.360
have to get up all the time. So definitely I kind of punished myself

881
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.880
a little bit. But there's no
way, even when she was a tiny

882
01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:46.400
baby, that I would have ever
rolled over on her. It's like,

883
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:51.079
as a parent, you just have
this inner sense of you know, you

884
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:55.360
wouldn't harden your child, so you
would know, like you don't even have

885
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.880
to know, like in your mind, it just is there. It's an

886
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:03.440
innate instinct. So I don't buy
that people were drunk and ruled on their

887
01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:08.960
kids and killed them. I just
I'm not buying it. Agreed. I

888
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.360
wanted to if we could touch on
one more thing before we get into your

889
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:15.360
silver bullets with flat Earth and a
few other things. But I really wanted

890
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:19.000
to talk just for a few minutes
about doctor Napouti and here's a guy who

891
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:26.159
is legitimately helping people. And then, as I told you before we linked

892
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:30.920
up here on zoom that I found
that the Federal Trade Commission, a gentleman

893
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:36.360
by the name of Richard Charisma or
Kerosime excuse me, is once again this

894
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:43.480
is the federal government going after doctors
who didn't play ball with big pharmaceutical And

895
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.440
I'm sitting here right now I'll include
this link in the show notes as well.

896
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:51.239
This is a warning letter from the
federal government to doctor Eric Naputti in

897
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:58.000
Saint Louis, Missouri, for quote, unsubstantiated claims for coronavirus treatment or prevention.

898
01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:02.360
And I don't know how well you
know doctor Neputi, because once again,

899
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:06.440
well he championed, like you said, intravenous vitamin therapy, vitamin D

900
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:11.199
supplements, and chiropractic care. And
here's the government. And again, let

901
01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:14.000
me ask you this. Number one, how did he react to the government

902
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:18.840
coming after him? But number two, why in the world does the federal

903
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:26.439
government have any business telling doctors how
to treat their patients? Exactly? He

904
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:30.359
was bury outspoken from the get go. He did a lot of Facebook lives.

905
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:33.760
He would say, the best thing
you can do is vitamin D,

906
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:41.399
fresh air, get your sunlight,
get your vitamins, get anything to boost

907
01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:45.520
your immune system. And they attacked
him, and he was on a list

908
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:49.159
of like one hundred ballistic practitioners that
they were going after, and he did

909
01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:54.720
get sued. I'm not sure where
that ended up. I haven't really asked

910
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:58.319
him. I have an appointment with
him in a few months. I like

911
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:00.880
to see him personally. Sometimes don't
always get to because he helps so many

912
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:06.640
people. But yeah, I have
a good relationship with him, and I

913
01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:11.199
noticed that he wasn't around as much
in the office when I would go to

914
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:14.840
get adjusted, and I think it
was a lot of his things were speaking

915
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:17.520
engagements because he was out trying to
get the word out to as many people

916
01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:21.720
as possible. So he would be
asked to go to different states, different

917
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:27.600
places to have conferences and talk about
these things, and he was very outspoken

918
01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:32.079
about it. But I definitely think
it put it laid a heavy toll on

919
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:39.479
him with stress because I noticed that
he wasn't around a lot, and he's

920
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:44.920
kind of the crux of the whole
office. So to me, having him

921
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:49.479
there and helping people himself is a
lot different than having the other people in

922
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:53.520
the office that were just there to
help him out. I mean, they're

923
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:59.279
still good, but he's the one
with all the knowledge and I definitely like

924
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:03.039
to work with him directly. But
he had a lot of stress, Definitely,

925
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:09.000
I can understand, and I'll tell
you I'm looking at the federal profile

926
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:14.359
of Richard Karasima. Of course,
if you play ball, you get rewarded

927
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:18.560
and he is now the highest rank
as you can get in the civil service.

928
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:24.119
He's at GS fifteen and he's making
close to two hundred k a year

929
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.479
down in Washington, d C.
I'm going to reach out to him.

930
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:30.399
I probably won't get any email back. I never do want to reach out

931
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:32.439
to people, but I'd like to
hear his thoughts on what he thinks in

932
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:38.039
retrospect, and of course he'll probably
weasel his way out with you know,

933
01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:42.760
I was just doing what I could
with the information because what happened earlier this

934
01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:47.520
year with the hydrochloro queen. They
apologized about that. They still haven't given

935
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:53.439
in about the ivermectin though. No, that horse paced right, that's what

936
01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:57.119
they call it. Believe that people, that was a Nobel Peace Prize winning

937
01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:01.239
Yes, yes, indeed, and
of course because it wasn't something that you

938
01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:08.199
bought from mirk Or or Pfizer,
it wasn't recommended. And it's just pure

939
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:11.920
evil. And again, twenty twenty
was just the most evil year. And

940
01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:14.680
I hope and pray we never have
to endure anything like that again. That

941
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:18.239
was awful. I kind of want
to we have about where we had twenty

942
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:21.479
minutes left. I wanted to get
a little more into flat Earth. What

943
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:26.039
would you qualify your six silver bullets? You know, if you're in an

944
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:29.880
elevator with somebody for thirty seconds and
you wanted to plant some seeds in their

945
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:33.640
mind for them to investigate. Okay, So one is that you can see

946
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:42.520
too far, and two is just
your senses. So like being outside every

947
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:47.079
day I'm on that bike, I
can't feel any difference. I mean,

948
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:51.520
you would have to feel the Earth
spending around at a thousand miles an hour.

949
01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:56.800
Just that doesn't make any sense when
you actually look at the numbers.

950
01:11:57.720 --> 01:12:00.199
That's something I also, as a
kid, never wrap my mind around.

951
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:03.640
I could never wrap my mind around
the solar system, and I felt like

952
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:08.439
I was stupid or something because I
couldn't. It just didn't make sense,

953
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:14.079
and looking back, it never made
sense. And then as I observed,

954
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:18.000
like since I'm out every day and
you see the sun rise, the moon

955
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:23.880
rise, the moonset, the sunset, and the positions of where they would

956
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:28.079
change based on the months, and
I would try to look up online and

957
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:31.000
figure out like I don't understand how
this works, Like it doesn't make any

958
01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:35.520
sense. And when when I heard
your podcast, I was like, oh

959
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:39.680
my gosh, that now it makes
more sense. And then I got that

960
01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:45.840
flat Earth app Flat Earth Dave,
and when I seen it on the app

961
01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:49.960
and how it goes in a circle, I was just like that it makes

962
01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:55.479
total sense, Like there's no way
that now I get it. It was

963
01:12:55.560 --> 01:13:00.520
clicked instantly. So to me,
your senses are extremely important and how we're

964
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:06.520
trained to ignore them. It just
it was a mind blowing thing. Genesis

965
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:13.560
was another one. It's just literally
right there in the pages. It's there.

966
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.000
Another one that clicked for me was
the rainbow. The shape of the

967
01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:21.600
rainbow. I'm like, oh my
gosh, it's the shape of the firmament.

968
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:29.119
And then the stars never changed.
That's something I've always observed. And

969
01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:32.720
then water finds its level. Those
are some of my big ones. I

970
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:38.640
did try to tell someone at work
and he thinks I'm crazy. Now we'll

971
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.960
get to that in a second.
I want to ask you, but you

972
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:44.840
brought up water always finds this level, and I don't think I had a

973
01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:47.199
chance to comment on this, but
again going back to pastor Lock when he

974
01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:50.680
brought out that level and said water
always finds its level, and I'm like,

975
01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:55.560
bro, that's a water bubble.
That's actually an air bubble in the

976
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:59.680
water. Right. I was blown
away. I was like, that proved

977
01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:02.520
he did zero. I think he
went on to the Flat Earth Society's web

978
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:05.880
page for like thirty minutes, because
he did mention like that we were on

979
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:10.439
a disc going up eight miles an
hour, which is their definition of gravity.

980
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:13.840
But I was blown away when he
pulled out that level. Yes,

981
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:15.319
I was. I was shocked at
that too. I was like, wow,

982
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:17.760
I don't think he really did any
research. No, I was like,

983
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:20.720
dude, that's a water bubble.
But I'm sorry, go ahead.

984
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:25.479
Yeah that was unbelievable. Yeah.
Yeah. The one of your six is

985
01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:32.039
really underrated, and that is your
senses, because so often we'll disregard our

986
01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:38.760
senses or what we see with our
own eyes, you know, over what

987
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:44.000
we're told. Right, if we
see something and know something, we're more

988
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:45.880
apt to believe someone, you know, because they have a job title,

989
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:51.560
whether they're a teacher or like a
doctor fauci. And that really goes to

990
01:14:51.640 --> 01:15:01.279
show how much they have mastered psychologet
like mass psychological operations over them masses definitely,

991
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:05.319
And I notice it now more in
TV and things. And I've always

992
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:11.720
been interested in like supernatural things,
because those were always taboo, like you

993
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:14.399
don't mess with any of that.
That's what I was always told as a

994
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:18.920
kid, and so definitely then I
was drawn to it. So I've always

995
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:28.359
been researching Egyptian folk, like the
mythology, Greek mythology, and I knew

996
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:31.239
stories of the Bible, of course, and one of your guests, Dustin

997
01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:35.840
Nemos, I believe it was he
when he put all that together with the

998
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:42.800
giants, and the the way he
put it all together with nemrods dna,

999
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.880
I was like, whoa. So
again, tying all those things that I

1000
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:53.039
found interesting, the Egyptian things,
the Greek things, they all tie into

1001
01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:56.319
the Bible. They're all part of
it, and I never really thought of

1002
01:15:56.359 --> 01:16:00.800
it that way. So again,
that just blows my mind, and I

1003
01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:02.960
liked it. I watched a show
called Supernatural. I don't know if you've

1004
01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.000
ever seen it. My wife is
seen all like fifteen seasons of it.

1005
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:12.039
Yes, okay, So again,
a lot of that stuff is tied into

1006
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:17.840
the Bible, things that happen in
the Bible, things that it makes it.

1007
01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:23.439
It puts a spin on it.
But definitely they know what they're doing

1008
01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:28.319
and they're telling things on purpose,
and they put it right there for you

1009
01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:31.319
to see indeed, and once you
start seeing it, and then it's like

1010
01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:36.479
you can't not see it. So
it definitely blows me away. And there's

1011
01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:45.159
a few like I noticed about Stranger
Things that directly relates to sir. You

1012
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:48.800
have to see that if you haven't
seen it. There is a show on

1013
01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:55.960
Fox called Sleepy Hollow about ten years
ago, and it had talking about the

1014
01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:01.600
Heschians and Freemasons and on and on
and on and tying it to supernatural events

1015
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:05.560
and very interesting and now I'm gonna
have to go back and rewatch it now

1016
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:11.960
that I know more things. The
Twilight Zone is another one. I mean,

1017
01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:16.880
there's so many episodes that are just
like wow, I mean they it's

1018
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:20.560
almost like they knew ahead of time
what was coming. And another one that

1019
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:26.600
I don't think gets enough at.
Simpsons always gets picked on as the prediction,

1020
01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:30.640
but South Park, as crude as
it is, I've watched a ton

1021
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:35.880
of South Park in my time,
and it's like they knew all the ridiculousness

1022
01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:42.600
culturally that was going to happen.
This happened in episodes years before it even

1023
01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:45.760
happened. It just blows me away. That's a great point. Water watches

1024
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:48.520
it too, so it's funny.
Yeah, I watched the early stuff in

1025
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:53.720
the early two thousands, and they
were poking at the the wokeness and the

1026
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:57.640
self identic, right, don't miss
gender me and all that stuff. They're

1027
01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:01.319
not and I'm sure again it's probably
more disclosure than anything. I'm sure they're

1028
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:03.760
part of the club. I think
it's Trey Parker and I forget the other

1029
01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:08.439
guy's name, Matt Stone. Matt
Stone. Thanks. But again, that's

1030
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.960
why you never tell people not to
listen to someone, because part of the

1031
01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:16.039
gist of the people like Alex Jones
and these people is disclosure, so you

1032
01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:20.079
should pay attention. That's that's a
great point. Yeah, it's funny because

1033
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:26.520
my daughter, of all things,
she was playing a TikTok of Alex Jones

1034
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:30.119
with the gay frogs. Oh yeah, I'm like, but it's true.

1035
01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:32.680
I said, he may not be
one hundred percent all the time, right,

1036
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:35.720
but he's right. I mean,
you put all this stuff in the

1037
01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:40.279
food and water and you get anomalies. And I think that's part of what

1038
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:45.439
why there's gender confusion, because you're
taking in hormones that are in the water

1039
01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:50.079
and in the food. It would
make anybody's body confused. So definitely there's

1040
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:53.760
a lot to say about what you
put in your body and your health.

1041
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:59.039
And I remember, like doctor Nipudi
like you can pay every time you go,

1042
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:01.319
or you can pay like for a
year for a whole family, or

1043
01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:05.960
two years or however many visits,
and it's expensive. But the way he

1044
01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:10.600
put it is, when you're in
bad health, what would you pay to

1045
01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:14.840
be in good health? And it
totally makes sense, no price. Yeah,

1046
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:18.720
right, that's a great point.
Yeah. There was the guy who

1047
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:23.199
used to be part of Microsoft,
the guy who died earlier in his life.

1048
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:25.800
He made a comment when he was
on his deathbed, He's like,

1049
01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:28.279
look at me, I've got billions
of dollars and it does me no good.

1050
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:32.640
Died at the age of whatever it
was. Yeah, that's that's a

1051
01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:34.960
great point, and especially if it
works and there's not going to be any

1052
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:41.159
side effects like you see with big
Pharma. You mentioned briefly, you know

1053
01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:44.960
about history and ancient history that you've
been studying, just briefly, what are

1054
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:50.000
your thoughts on the Pyramids. I
think that it had to be giants agreed.

1055
01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:54.039
That's my that's my guests, but
I don't. Of course we'll never

1056
01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:59.880
know, but I definitely that's always
been something that's fascinating me. When I

1057
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:03.479
was I believe I was ten,
I went to the eighty four World's Fair

1058
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:12.039
in Knoxville, Tennessee, and that's
where I fell in love with Egyptian mythology

1059
01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:16.880
and they had a whole egypt exhibit
and I was just obsessed. I still

1060
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:20.000
have the coloring book from that.
It was like an adult coloring book,

1061
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:27.800
but all the designs and now that
I see like Anubis and they have the

1062
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:30.760
head of a dog and the body
of a human, and I'm like,

1063
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:34.479
whoa, that's that was in the
Bible. That's the altering of DNA.

1064
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:42.000
And to know that that was actually
real really floored me. That's incredible.

1065
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:44.600
You want to get do you want
to have your mind blown, Colleen?

1066
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:48.680
Go for it. In three weeks, nineteen eighty four will have been forty

1067
01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:54.640
years ago. Oh wow, Wow, that's hard to fathom because for me,

1068
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:59.680
I mean I was a freshman into
my sophomore year. I graduated in

1069
01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:02.439
eighty s Evan, that seemed like
just yesterday. But to think that eighty

1070
01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:05.359
four was because I remember the eighty
four Olympics. That was a big deal

1071
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:09.840
too. Yes, that was a
big year here in the States. And

1072
01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:12.920
that was here in a couple of
weeks, it'll be forty years ago.

1073
01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:17.840
That is just incredible to think time
flies so fast. It's just mind blowing.

1074
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:20.000
My dad told me, he said, the older you get, the

1075
01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:24.720
faster time will go. And he
wasn't lying. Boy. One of my

1076
01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:28.079
friends said, life is like a
roll of toilet paper. The closer you

1077
01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:30.119
get to the end, the faster
it goes. That's a great analogy.

1078
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:36.159
That's awesome. Make a T shirt. Could you share some of your maybe

1079
01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:44.399
successes and maybe not so much successes
with trying to spread the word of flat

1080
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:49.359
Earth. So there is a gentleman
at work that he was a staunch atheist

1081
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:54.720
and had become a Christian, and
he had told me stories, and I

1082
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:59.239
kind of think that in a way, I'm what they call an mpath.

1083
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:02.920
So people will tell me their life
stories and just walk out to me in

1084
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:06.880
a grocery store and for the next
half hour, I'm standing there listening to

1085
01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:13.159
their most intimate details. I'm a
good listener and I hardly ever get to

1086
01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:15.680
talk. So that's why I'm really
enjoying our conversation. Is I finally get

1087
01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:19.920
to tell a little bit of my
story. But this gentleman would tell me

1088
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:28.319
about his atheist experiences and he hated
God and he's had a rough time,

1089
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:31.600
and then he found God and Christianity, and I thought, this is the

1090
01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:38.039
perfect person because he's been both places. And when I told him, I

1091
01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.880
said, just listen to this one
podcast, give it a shot. He

1092
01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:44.800
just looked at me like I had
two heads. So I really haven't told

1093
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:49.560
anybody at work per se except for
him. There's a couple people I want

1094
01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:55.319
to but I don't even know how
to begin. I don't know. And

1095
01:22:55.600 --> 01:23:00.279
my mom I've told, but that's
becoming a success. And it's funny like

1096
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:05.720
now, at Thanksgiving, somebody when
we went to take a walk, my

1097
01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:09.840
husband and I. When I came
back, my daughter said, you won't

1098
01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:13.279
believe they were making fun of flat
earth people at the table, and I'm

1099
01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.760
like, oh, dang it.
I wasn't here, but I wasn't going

1100
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:20.960
to bring it up, So I
don't know. I'm a little nervous about

1101
01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:27.279
sharing it. But now, like
I was really nervous about coming on here

1102
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:31.319
and kind of exposing myself so to
speak. But I felt like it had

1103
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:35.319
to be done. And that's another
thing that I've always had an issue with

1104
01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:41.079
is I don't know really what my
purpose is want I don't know what I

1105
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:44.039
want to be when I grow up. I've done the same type of work

1106
01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:46.880
for the past thirty years. I
fell into it. I do tech work,

1107
01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:55.119
but I'd never really had a career
per se. And I really don't

1108
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:57.520
know what I want to do,
and I don't know my purpose. And

1109
01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:01.640
that's something I've always questioned with my
prayers, like what am I supposed to

1110
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:06.560
do here? And I'm hoping that
we're getting there, I just don't know

1111
01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:11.800
how to get there, what my
next step is. So maybe this is

1112
01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:15.199
my next step to be a little
more brave and say things to people,

1113
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:18.800
But I don't know how to begin, and maybe a little business card would

1114
01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:25.920
be a way to start it.
I don't know, yep. And transitioning

1115
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:30.640
is a hard time, you know, for like for soldiers, you've done

1116
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:33.840
the same thing when you retire for
anywhere between twenty and thirty years. It's

1117
01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:41.039
very structured. And then to try
to find meaning post military, because I

1118
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:43.479
think it's important as you get older, you want to do something that has

1119
01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:47.199
meaning as well as more than just
a paycheck as well, and it's very

1120
01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:50.119
difficult. I see it from athletes
all the time, because you know,

1121
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:54.960
from the time there's six or seven, they're recognized as elite and they,

1122
01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:58.560
you know, all the way through
college and the NFL and then they're just

1123
01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:01.199
done. And positioning in life,
whether you're an athlete or a soldier,

1124
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:05.680
or maybe you were a businessman with
the same company for thirty years, to

1125
01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:10.800
transition later in life is very difficult, and a lot of people are looking

1126
01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:15.079
for what can I do that you
know is meaningful and I can make a

1127
01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:17.439
difference. And I think if we
do want to make a difference in the

1128
01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:23.039
world and make change, we all
have to be including myself, because I'm

1129
01:25:23.079 --> 01:25:29.680
not the same person. I want
to put it correctly, I'm the same

1130
01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:31.439
person, but I may not be
as brave in person with other people,

1131
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:34.039
just like yourself and everybody else.
To walk up to somebody and say,

1132
01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:36.960
hey, looks pretty flat out there, right, and I think we all

1133
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:41.720
should have a little more conviction and
maybe put ourselves out there a little bit.

1134
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:45.920
And obviously, again the person has
to be willing to listen, right,

1135
01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:50.039
because I think all of us know
who we can maybe have success with

1136
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:55.479
and the people out there who probably
were not going to ever have success with.

1137
01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:59.520
So that's kind of just my thoughts
in general. What about yourself.

1138
01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:03.920
Yeah, there's a few people that
are extremely what I would call extremely religious,

1139
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:10.239
and they wear the T shirt and
they're constantly talking about it and it

1140
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:13.399
kind of gets on my nurse.
But one of these days I thought about

1141
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:16.479
walking up and say what in the
firmament are you talking about? And see

1142
01:26:16.479 --> 01:26:21.560
what they also, but I haven't
been I haven't had the situation yet,

1143
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:26.399
but it's definitely going to be said. Well, one of the ladies is

1144
01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:30.680
a pastor's wife, so I feel
like I could maybe mention to her and

1145
01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:34.239
see, but it's I don't know, it's risky because I don't want to

1146
01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:39.399
lose friends over it. But I
really technically my best friend is my husband,

1147
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:43.079
so I really don't hang out with
people per se. I'm very busy.

1148
01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:46.399
I'm absorbed in what I'm doing.
So and I've always been an only

1149
01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:49.720
child till I was fourteen. My
mom got remarried and had my brother,

1150
01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:54.960
but it was more like I was
a second mom than a sister. So

1151
01:26:56.279 --> 01:27:01.520
I've always been able to handle being
alone and and absorbed within my own imagination

1152
01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:06.159
and creativity, so it's not hard
for me to just just hang out by

1153
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:12.439
myself. That that's great points,
and we should start using the word firmament

1154
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.960
in our regular vocabulary. We should
get a training on social media, because

1155
01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:17.880
that's the kind of thing, the
first thing when people see something they don't

1156
01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:24.319
understand, especially in today's world where
you have a smartphone, you pull out

1157
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:27.039
your phone and you type in the
word it tells you, and you know,

1158
01:27:27.119 --> 01:27:30.319
maybe maybe, just maybe that'll be
enough to get people curious enough to

1159
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:34.199
look into it. Absolutely. Yeah, we have just a few minutes left,

1160
01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:36.840
so I'd like to you know,
anything else that you'd like to cover

1161
01:27:38.279 --> 01:27:43.600
or mention to the audience. I
want to give you that opportunity. Mainly

1162
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:48.520
that I just hope that people have
a little more bravery than I do about

1163
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:54.000
bringing it up to other people.
Definitely brought me closer to God. I

1164
01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:58.960
mean, that one really blew me
away because and because my husband even said,

1165
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:01.399
why does it matter whether it's flat
around? I'm like, because that

1166
01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:06.640
means he's right there, he is
totally right there, and it's not so

1167
01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:15.439
far away. Galaxy it's not.
He's just right there and that means so

1168
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:20.920
much to me personally, because I've
never really had it just seems so far

1169
01:28:20.960 --> 01:28:25.720
away to me. All the whole
concept of God seemed like a far away

1170
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:30.520
thing that I would never understand and
that it never really made sense. And

1171
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:34.399
now he never really helped me kind
of thing, and I don't know,

1172
01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:40.560
it's just it puts it all in
a different perspective. And I definitely felt

1173
01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:43.760
different in my heart. And like
I said, that feeling that came over

1174
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:45.399
me when it clicked. When I
was riding my bike that night, it

1175
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:50.159
was just like, I'm surprised I
didn't crash. It was just overwhelming.

1176
01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:56.960
And definitely I've always prayed and I've
always believed. It's just that it never

1177
01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:00.399
felt more personal. And I just
hope that others have that feeling too,

1178
01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:06.239
And that's what That's why I think
there's a difference between religion and spirituality,

1179
01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:14.199
because I just I see people that
are religious that act horribly towards other people

1180
01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:21.439
on a daily basis, and I
don't understand that it doesn't I can't wrap

1181
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:25.960
my mind around how you could be
so religious but yet be so rude to

1182
01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:31.239
people so It just floors me that
the one thing that was that turned my

1183
01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:34.880
life around was learning that it was
flat. And he's right there. I

1184
01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:40.640
mean, I may not know exactly
everything, and we won't know until the

1185
01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:44.359
time comes and we die, but
and we may not know then, but

1186
01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:49.359
it is important and it does change
your perspective on things. How big of

1187
01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:53.640
a what you realized it was flat? And like you said, you had

1188
01:29:53.640 --> 01:29:56.840
that moment on your bike. What
was it a couple of days? Was

1189
01:29:56.880 --> 01:30:01.159
it a week? How long was
it for you to kind of action understand

1190
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:06.640
everything and to almost, you know, reprogram your mind to your new beliefs.

1191
01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:12.159
As crazy as it sounds, it
was like instant. It just clicked.

1192
01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:15.960
Instantly, everything fell into place.
The only thing, like, I

1193
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:21.000
had a ton of questions in my
mind about meteors and shooting stars, and

1194
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:27.199
I got the app and I was
like looking at the skyclock and explaining it

1195
01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:30.680
to my daughter. So as I'm
learning things, I'm explaining things to my

1196
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:33.319
husband and my daughter. And I
know, like every night when I come

1197
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:35.680
home from my bike ride, I'm
like, Okay, here's what I learned

1198
01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:41.239
on my bike ride and my podcast, And sometimes I get an I roll

1199
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:45.039
from the husband, and sometimes I
don't. So I'm getting somewhere. It's

1200
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:50.960
just a matter of time. And
he knows I'm passionate about things and some

1201
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:55.239
of the stuff like that I've researched. He's like, oh, that's crazy,

1202
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:59.760
Like Elvis is alive or whatever.
And Paul is not dead. Just

1203
01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:02.680
for the record, Oh, Paul
is not dead. No, he is

1204
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:09.319
not dead. Okay, I reject
that one. So he didn't die in

1205
01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:13.439
nineteen sixty six and Billy Shears didn't
take over, right, Okay, Now

1206
01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:16.640
that's a whole other podcast. So
if you ever come, if you ever

1207
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:20.840
want an expert on that, I'm
privy to that one. Cool. Nice,

1208
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:25.479
well done. This has been a
wonderful ninety minutes, all your insight,

1209
01:31:25.600 --> 01:31:28.359
and it's great to hear your story. And i'd like to give you

1210
01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:33.199
the floor for the last minute or
two and just address the audience. I

1211
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:39.600
just thank you guys for listening,
because I listened just like you do.

1212
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:44.199
And I never thought it would be
on here to share my story, but

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here I am, and I'm glad
I did, and I feel a thousand

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times better for it because I never
got to really, I don't have people

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to share it with and stick with
it and feel free to email me.

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I love to email all the time, my computer all the time. So

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contact me and I'll be happy to
talk with anyone. Well done, Thank

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you so much for your time,
and again, her email address, Quinnie

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one hundred at gmail dot com will
be in the show night's show notes.

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Excuse me as always, so feel
free to reach out and say hello.

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So once again, thank you so
much for your time. I hope everybody

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has a great week. Thank you
for your continued support, Thanks for your

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01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:30.079
emails. God bless everyone, and
keep your head on a swibble. And

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until the next time we meet,
my friends, we will see you.

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I know it's been a struggle.
I don't know if you've had me feel

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the time, tell down all the
way. Yeah, I know you feel

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01:32:51.680 --> 01:33:03.399
them. You smile at the same
gold from you. I feel like you've

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01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:13.760
lost your way. Don't give up. No, don't give it and nevers

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01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:18.239
home. Don't let call the primise. It ain't done yet. He's got

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a glad. Why it's a right
time? Got up? Let me come.

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Why afraid God him called. I
can see the street beside you.

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Child's are putting up five. Oh, you're stronger than a thing. You

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01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:59.920
guy, you're gonna be all right. You're accepting a dead found you beautiful?

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01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:06.760
You're shoving bride. Yeah, you're
living, breathing, move you can

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01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:15.840
hold your head a pie. Don't
give up, No, don't give in,

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01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:21.279
never loss home. Don't let gone
on the primies. It ain't done

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yet? This God up? Play? Why some wain town? The God

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01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:32.439
of may comes. Don't give up. No, don't give in you never

1239
01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:38.960
live home. Don't let go on
the primies. It ain't doun like it's

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01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:44.199
worth living in? What's a way
down? The God? Up? Baby

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01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:55.239
Colt? Why surprise? Now?
Got up? Staml? Oh? Yes,

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01:34:56.640 --> 01:35:02.840
what surprise? Down the God up? You be caught? Oh yeah,

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01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:20.399
got caught. Don't give up,
No, don't give in, never

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01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:27.600
lose hol Do they go of the
primisn in and done? Yeah's got up?

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01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:34.199
Playing? Wats kind of even costs? Don't give up? No dog

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01:35:34.399 --> 01:35:42.119
giving never the home? Don't they
go of the primes? It ain't done?

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01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:48.319
Other's worth living in? What's died? The God of every colds?

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01:35:54.239 --> 01:36:13.399
Oh, the God of needs?
Why God? You're listening to the Fact

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Hunter Radio Network. Just the facts, ma'amy