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H h. Welcome to another episode
of Jeff Just Bizarre Adventure. On this

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little detour through the world of Cowboy
Bebop, I am your host more sane,

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joined as always by John aka super
Arepatrol for aka I just put out

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a two hour Simpson's documentary. How
are you doing today? That's fantastic tomorrow?

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Hey, can we just talk about
John real quick? My favorite subject?

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Quick? John? John said that
was insane thing I think I've ever

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seen, and nonchalantly he did it
like like no one would fucking realize,

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like a psycho, like a serial
killer cycle. I feel like my actions

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are being overblown to a ridiculous proportion
here. Okay, let's have the audience

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be the judge. John was wearing
a Silent Hill two black T shirt.

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Where did you get t shirt from? Is it bootleg or is it official?

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It seems bootleg? These are actually
very These are actually quite sought after

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rare official Silence Hill too like this
rare bootleg? Rare bootlegs? Oh wow?

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That is that? Doesn't that too
cool to be off? It seems

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too cool to be official. That
looks insanely bootleg. Yeah, bout leg

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is now designer though you look good
either way. But let's not avoid the

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oddity here because John, the conversation
kind of concluded that I look good.

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Yeah, well we all we can
all on that, and now it's time

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to talk about KAUP. Is that
kind of we'll get there, We'll get

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there. John stands up and he's
like, oh, we we're back,

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and he goes away, and then
not fifteen seconds later, he comes back

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with a different Silent Hill too long
sleeve sweatshirt or T shirt and just sits

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down like nothing is the matter.
And I just don't understand what kind of

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behavior is that? Are you having
a laugh? Are you just a crazy

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person? Why what are you covering
up a Silent Hill to T shirt with

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a Silent Hill to T shirt for? Because, Jeff, you got to

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coordinate, you gotta be I'm wearing
my Silent Hill outfit. Okay. If

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I had gotten those two hundred dollars
Silent Hill pants, I would be wearing

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them as well. And I'm not, And I feel like an idiot.

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Yeah, they they sold like two
hundred dollars Silent Hill. Look this online

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ceramics. It's a very reputable clothing. Actual they make clothes that looks ship

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and that's how you know they look
good? Right? Okay, you know,

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really, I don't get it.
I don't get it in the back

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of the T shirt. Okay,
okay, have you have you have either

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of you ever? Yeah? Have
you ever been through the Modesty Online Ceramics

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website? You should go to the
Online Ceramics website. I think I've heard

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of it. Yeah. It is
one of the worst websites I've ever seen

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in my life. Oh so,
he just I just saw a sweater come

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off. You did, right,
So that's that. You can see the

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w W W dot Online Ceramics dot
com. Yeah, yeah, and then

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online Ceramics dot Com U r L
underneath the silent hill to logo. I

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don't understand. So all you think
about is that dead wife of yours.

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That's really good. That's pretty that's
actually pretty good. So okay, so

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I know these kinds, I know
these people. I know these people.

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Can I just say that John and
I have unintentionally matched because I'm wearing a

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Health T shirt and Health are like
supreme shit posters. So this is Lucy.

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That is awesome, It's it's berserk, it's guts from it is the

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band Health, It's guts from berserk
with the sort of shoulder and then instead

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of guts his face, it's a
dog. And then on the back nice

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Yeah, I don't know if you
can. Yeah. So this is following

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a very popular trend in fashion these
days. I call it the Hey what

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if we printed out GeoCities onto T
shirts? And see what that would happen?

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And it's cool, Like, I
get it. It's very popular.

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I don't know how long it'll last, but I like it. I think

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it's cool. And John, I
think you're cool. And Lucy I think

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you're cool. Where's your cool T
shirt? Dam Yeah? And Tom's wearing

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a white T shirt? Is it
just plain white? I like that?

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Yeah, that is stylish. You
know. You know what that says to

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me, You know when it says
that I reached the stage in my life

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where I don't give a fuck and
I buy thirty packs of white T shirts

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and wear them. Yesterday I wore
this white T shirt out and then I

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came home and I changed into my
sleeping T shirt and it was the exact

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same white T shirt, just a
different one. And it was like,

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wow, pretty goody to me.
To me, that says to me that

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tam is the brand. Okay,
yeah, yeah, here's the brand.

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Because you know when you know when
like when people get money, like new

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money, and they go and they
go to Fendy and Chanel and everything they

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wear has a label on it,
and you're like, yeah, you've got

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money. But the real rich people, they just wear like a five hundred

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dollars plane T shirt but it fits
perfectly. That's how you know that they're

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really really rich. Yeah. I
was actually thinking about streamlining my life just

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to have like white T shirts all
the time. Okay, we don't want

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you don't want to go too far
in that direction because otherwise you will become

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like Simpsons or Steve Jobs slash Job. I think doing that Yep, exactly,

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Lucy, your thorough nose voice.
It gets me every time you do

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it, like every twelve podcasts and
everything. Yeah, I don't know it

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too often. But Elizabeth, welcome
to their news Elizabeth Steve Jobs were the

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same thing every day. She It's
like she's here, No, she's in

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prison where she should be. But
isn't she isn't she trying to reform her

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image? Isn't she a girl boss? Mom? Yeah, she's a girl

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boss and then she had like I'm
not saying she had a child for to

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get out of prison, but it
certainly looks not are following that story and

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that person. Okay, yeah,
she girl boss too post to the Sun.

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It's a cautionary tale for all of
us, certainly. Yep. Anyway,

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on this episode of Jeff jeff Bizarre
Adventure the Cowboy Bebop side Story,

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we'll be talking about a two part
series, Jupiter of Jazz Part one and

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Jupiter Jazz Part two. Jeff,
what did you feel about these episodes?

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How did I feel? Moody,
very moody stuff very uh, occasionally slow

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tempoed, but fine. I enjoyed
them. I thought, I you know,

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we'd not been exposed to a Cowboy
Bebop two parter just yet as far

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as I can remember. And knowing
that, going into these, I was

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like, oh, I wonder how
they're gonna do, Like a cliffhanger is

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going to be like this big thing? Has that gonna work? And you

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know, I think, like I
think pound for pound, very solid.

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Uh. Brought back some characters that
we met earlier on that you know.

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For my money, in my opinion, I think they were sort of like

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maybe scattering them out too infrequently in
my opinion, if they're trying to cohesively

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tell this overarching sort of story.
But boy, oh boy, did we

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jump into spikes flashbacks and you know
what this freak is always seeing whenever it

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rains out or whatever the hell it
is. So yeah, overall, definitely

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enjoyed them. I think it was
like an important chapter marker for like what

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I'm assuming this grander story telling adventure
narrative is right, Like this seemed like

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very pivotal, very important. And
also I thought the planet where no women

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lived was funny as well. Yeah, so that's where I land on that.

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I did enjoy it, and I'm
excited to talk about it with you

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all. I think I think you're
muted. You are a muted man right

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now at the cough, so I
needed to mute and mute. I'm trying,

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all right, what did you think
about these episodes? I loved them.

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It's a funny thing, like I
don't know how many times I watched

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kebbab up now, but I feel
like very different episodes are standing out to

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me now than stood out to me
like the last time I watched them.

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But I think particularly part one I
just thought was so fucking beautifully drawn and

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animated, and just the atmosphere.
This is a sumptuous atmosphere, guys.

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And I think a little bit of
that fell away from me in part two.

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I think he had a bit more
action and kind of stuff like that.

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But oh my god, there's so
many like just gorgeous shots. The

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scene of Fay in the bar and
the lighting's all red and harsh, like,

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oh, it was incredible, and
yeah, really starts to kind of

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these are the episodes that really show
their hands as like, yeah, there's

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some wider ship going on here,
and that we're not just fucking around.

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Yeah, we're not just bounty hunting. You know, there's other things to

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play. Yeah, we've got law
guys. Okay, we've got law Jazz.

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Part one begins with laughing Bull and
his son who was sitting by a

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campfire and watching a star fall from
the sky. But it is explaining that

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it's not just a shooting star,
it's actually the tear of a warrior who

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has finished a battle on the planet
and could not find his way to the

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great Spirit. So just like very
specific, I mean, that's all that.

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Okay. Meanwhile, on the ship
of the someone got a dog barking?

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Yeah, that's in the background of
my apartment. Can't do anything about

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it. Oh no, I thought
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It's not even that loud. I
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mad? Am I herring a dog? His fucking dog. It was gone

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for like three months, so I
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back with a vengeance. I think
it's a husky as well. On the

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ship of the Red Dragon Crime Syndicate, Vicious is meeting with the Van which

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is like the Council of Old People, and uh, talking about making another

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Red Eye. Deeal if you forgot
about Red Eye, it's back. The

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drug that Jeff Beck believes is bullets
constantly. So again, we Katerina not

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pregnant. They were not bullets.
There's drugs. Like the whole Katarina thing

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is like, yeah, I think
about her a lot. That's fine.

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That was in the mind. Yeah, So like, is the pregnancy a

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part of it? Oh no,
oh, it's not all. I'm glad

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definitely really starting to ask the hard
hitting question. I feel like I feel

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like, given how immediately you answered
that question, you're not being truthful.

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Yeah, you know. Look,
look, listen, Jeff, it's only

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it's only a guilty man who denies
the crime. Okay. I I met

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Jeff's Jeff's partner Stacey over the last
few days, and there was a point

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where I leaned over and asked her, what does Becla feel about pregnancy?

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And she just looked at me weirdly. So I think there is a little

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more going on here. Must have
missed that part of the wedding you were

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you were dancing, dancing. I
got loads of John. I've got so

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many videos of Jeff Beckler dancing.
Oh I I honestly, I guess I'd

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love to I'd love to dance with
Jeff Butler. Oh it's fine. Yeah,

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we had good we had some good
Jeff can dance. But like,

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the reason these videos are funny is
because they're like slowly zoom on his face

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until the where he looks directly at
the camera and then we'll do a little

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jig and then carry on. Okay, tell you what time, or we're

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going to stick them with all the
other files, you know what I mean?

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their pregnancy. I think. Look, because again, when I first,

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when you first meet her. I
don't believe you, like could even make

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that assumption about her. I'm not
sure. It doesn't matter when I think

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about her. Okay, well,
look you have your story. I have

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mine. I think. Yeah,
I don't know. It's not it's the

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next question that's wrong with it.
No, I know, I know it's

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fine. Uh yeah, but you
know, look me, what's right?

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What's you know? What's wrong?
Nothing? I'm trying. You know.

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It's like the first episode. It's
weird, just kids back then, right,

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it makes even worse. The Red
Idea is happening on the moon of

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Callisto and they are freaked out.
The old people are like why you why?

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They as this person trying to buy
from Vicious, and he explains that

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the person buying was in the Titan
War with Vicious and is in uh uh,

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and he's now buying from him because
of that connection. They eventually turn

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the kind of conversation towards Vicious more
and start to imply that they don't think

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that he has the authority to make
these kind of deals. But then they

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kind of reassert themselves as being powerful
and like, if you go against us,

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you will be punished. And I
think that's kind of a reference to

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the death of Mao from a few
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had no part in. I love
the presentation of these guys behind like the

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kind of sense like it's you really, it's that kind of Darth Vader effect

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where you need to be told absolutely
nothing about who these guys are. Yeah,

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and it just creates such a wild
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you don't want to mess with,
And Yeah, what is so amazing?

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How like it's it's it's like these
characters like I need to put myself in

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an impossible situation just to know that
I mean business, you know what I

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mean? Like, I love that. I love that painstaking detail of that

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ship. It's great. Uh So
one of the old guys agrees with Vicious,

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and then they suggest that Lynn accompanies
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crew. Yeah for you, then
for all our international audiences Lynn. As

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Vicious and Lynn are leaving, Vicious
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betray him in order to survive,
but Lynn is like, Nope, I

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will be loyal to you to the
end. Meanwhile, on the Bebop on,

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I think I think it's it's time
that we all acknowledge something. That's

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What's that John Vicious is a cool
motherfucker. He is. No, no,

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no, I said that. At
the very beginning. I was like,

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he's hot and he's cool. Yeah, I disagreed in the beginning,

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but now I'm sort of like,
all right, Vicious, all right,

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maybe maybe this is cool. Is
so like the typical and Jeff, maybe

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maybe we haven't watched enough feed to
kind of seen this trope. Vicious is

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the like just on the nose,
typical edgy enimey, bad guy, you

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know, so exposing myself here.
My TikTok recently has been given not like

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that, well, my TikTok recently
has been giving me whisper audios what which?

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So did you know that like audible
erotic stuff is very big now like

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like ASMR but like horny as yeah, and like I don't know, you

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know, like as big now.
I thought it was always big. I

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don't know, I never came a
girls. It was like male spirit behind

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like pillow talk love lines and stuff
like that. Is that like call me

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one nine hundred fuck Spike, you
know, like that kind of thing one

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hundred Spike. Yeah, that's just
the first person that came in my mind.

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Cowboy. Interesting Jet Faye, Jet
above Fay interesting Fay, although Faye

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recently has turned a corner in my
look, this isn't about I mean sorry,

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if anyone made whispering audio of Vicious
like that would just you know,

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it would kill. So it's Spike
actually, just you know, specialist Spikes

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a little goofy er. I think
Vicious is cool. Bike has Spike,

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Spike is pretty hot, like he
has Yeah to him, he has is

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kind of Jack's Kellington. Shut he's
shut. No, I'm not gonna shut

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up. He's a lanky, mantis
looking motherfucker. But he's so strong.

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You know that he is built under
there. Yeah, I mean yes,

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yeah, sure, like I don't
know, like, okay, I'm not

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trying to take that away from him. I just just like me, I

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get your whole. I could beat
this anim a character in a fight bit,

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but it's getting off. What a
dumb what a dumb thing to even

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say out loud. I could take
this cartoon character and fuck him the right

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up, Like, no, come
on, what is that as a joke?

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Did you say that you've turned a
corner on faith. Yeah, I'm

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attracted to fame more than I was
like a month ago, the second corner,

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And all it took was for her
to be handcuffed on a bed and

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he's bang up for it. No, it took her to be sunbathing on

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a spaceship and you know doing that, you know all that? Yeah,

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yeah, on the phase run off
with all the money and the to freeze

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from the cooling system, which is
why Jeff back lies now into her.

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This has caused the ship to become
quite humid. Edie is just knocking about

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searching for fee on the Internet,
but instead finds the signal for something called

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code name Julia coming from the Blue
Crow on Callisto, before she why did

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you say that name with Julia?
If she gets cut off before she can

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find out who the signal was sent
by it, but Spike knows what's going

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on and is like, I'm off
to look for her. Jet follows up

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behind and says, Julia is a
very common name, as should have been

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said in Zack Snyder's Justice League.
But then it will come to that it's

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a common name and they really need
to find Faye as specifically the money she's

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got Spike. Meanwhile, I was
like, I'm often to figure out this

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Julia thing. But jet As has
he's very upset about this, and basically

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he says like, if you leave
now and don't come and help find the

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money, it's over and we won't
be a team anymore. And Spike is

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like, that's cool, and then
he leaves. They both kind of like

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agreed that they don't understand each other
at all, despite working together for all

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this time. It felt like a
fake fight, if I'm being honest,

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it felt like a fake little fight, like, Okay, you guys have

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just met each other for a second. Yeah, you'll be fine. I

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don't know. I kind of like
it. I feel it's like it's a

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bit where you're like, oh,
this relationship is quite as smooth as maybe

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we've been led to believe, especially
you're the lonely one. Yeah. I

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mean like they definitely take pretty difficult
digs at each other, I think,

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But I don't know what is this
episode? What eleven twelve took their sweet

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ass time? You know? That's
all I agree though, it's they clearly

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have a rocky, turn abulent relationship. Meanwhile, on Callisto, Fey has

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she's got a cold. First of
all, she sneezing all over the place.

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I know how that feels. She
gets drunk. She's getting drunk at

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the Blue Crow, which is a
jazz bar. Hanging out there, Spike

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is looking around for this Julia situation
and is sent to Tony's. While there,

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Spike finds a trans person named Julius, who suggests Spike should go to

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the Blue Crow and find a saxophone
player named Gren, who is sometimes seen

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with ladies. Ladies, as Jeff
Beckla mentioned earlier, very rare on this

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planet, very not handled. I
don't feel like Julius was handled best at

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all. No, not really No. In a classic nineteen approach to trans

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people, there didn't feel great in
the cold light of twenty twenty three.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, for
sure. At the point, probably get

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into like the explanation of it.
That's a bit, yeah, it's a

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bit. Yeah, it's a bit. Yeah. At the bar, Gren

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strikes up a conversation with Fay who
Fay thinks that Gren is flirting with her,

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but Gren says, I'm not really
interested in women, so chill.

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Gren warns Faye that there are no
women in this town, and other men

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may be very interested her in her
if she isn't careful, but Fay is

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not really worried and kind of like
and leaves. He's trying to help her

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out as well, and she's just
like whatever. Spike is asking around for

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gren and he soon soon he finds
himself trailed by a gang of people.

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The man mistakes like the leader of
the gang mistakes Spike for Vicious, who

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they know is looking for Granted as
well and and has a lot of money

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that they want. Spike cares the
sound of Vicious's name and just freaks out

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and just kicks the ship out of
everyone, which is a great combat sequence.

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It's it's lovely, so good.
Yeah, a lot of animation,

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good choreography. Yeah, good friends. I love it. Like brief and

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brutal fights are in this, Like
there's never really any back and forth.

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It's just people getting smashed, and
it's because in real life you could not

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sustain a long, long fight.
And so I think it's kind of nice

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that they are so snappy and they
hit hard. They thread the needle,

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You're right, like they just like
do the they stay on it with the

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perfect amount of cadence. Seriously,
really like it makes Jojo just seem like,

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hey, well, to be honest, fucking ridiculous, what the fun?

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I know you? No, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry. It's been

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a while. We're gonna we're gonna
be just two episodes into part four,

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and you will regret your words and
deeds. Good. I look forward to

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that regret. I feel like with
Watanabe's stuff, like a lot of anime,

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they go for like flash and flair
and that kind of stuff in their

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combat sequences, whereas Watanabe stuff is
always more about choreography in a lot of

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ways, where it's you're not doing
like big powerful moves, You're doing like

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these very subtle dodgers and ducks and
uppercuts that land in a very like brutal

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way. And I think that's one
of the defining qualities of It's the same

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in uh not COLP. But I
was gonna say Samurai Champloo. But it's

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a lot of like similar, very
nuanced movements as opposed to big like fireballs

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and shit like that. Mhm.
Spike beats of everyone and then grabs the

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leader and then learns about the red
ideal that's happening between Gren and Vicious,

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and it also learns that Julia is
actually not involved. They're just using the

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name her name for this deal,
using the man's name for Cloud for Cloud.

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Yeah. Jet meanwhile goes into Callisto
looking for Fay. He stops at

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a bar where a big shirt is
playing on the TV and they talk about

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the bounty on Gren. The bartender
reveals that the bar is actually a popular

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hideout for people who have bounties on
their heads. Like the little exchange between

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them, I don't know about it. I just think it's one of those

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sequences where like it could have way
less character than it does. But I

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love how the bartenders kind of like, well I got a bony, It's

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fine, You're okay, you know, yeah, yeah, he's kind of

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cool, implying that Jet is on
the run, and Jet's like, no,

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I'm not on the run, and
the bartenders is like all right,

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sure. When he learns about their
bounty, he nearly calls Spike to court

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him to be like, hey,
there's a bounty here, guess what.

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But then he remembers that they're currently
broken up, so he doesn't do that.

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Fase walking around and sees the group
of people that Spike just beat up,

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but gren shows up as they're about
to re engage with her and pulls

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her away from the fight to protect
her, and then all kind of I

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always get like bummed out at that
bit, because like Fay really seems like

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she can handle herself, and I
wanted to see her whips some ass go

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all the way through. Yeah with
you because she gets one of them,

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right yep, oh more than one. Yeah, I think he's feel like

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a handful. Yeah. But Grenna
appears and like drags her into her apartment

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to keep her safe. He's he
also like why she's alone, and Phase

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like, I like being alone,
so I feel like it's better. She's

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talk into grand This's a bit of
a therapy session happening here. And then

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Grann's like, anyways, I'm off
to take a shower, and that leaves

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Faye to like look around and on
the walls she sees a photo which looks

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like one of them has Vicious in
it, and then an answering machine goes

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off and it is a message from
Vicious saying to Grinn that they want to

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meet, which is great timing.
Yeah, perfect divague, hyper specific.

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Yeah, I want to leave a
message about this crime. Uh I don't

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care what's on the other end of
this. I don't let anyone listen to

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this this message. By the way, no one accepts you. If anyone

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else heard it, that would complicate
matters and you'd probably have to tie them

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up or something, even though there's
no way to ensure that. I will

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continue speaking out loud. Wonderful.
Also, it's the year twenty eight fifty

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and answering machines are a thing.
Oh, come bye, this is vicious

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by the way. Yeah, I'm
in the crime syndicate with us. Like

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the phone, I thought the buttons
on the phone were really cool. Yeah,

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Like all that ship's dope. It's
it is that retro future ship that

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cowboys be about now, such a
great in Graham's apartment for a little bit,

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it seems it seems real cozy totally. Yeah. I'm also a beautiful

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person just studying. Yeah. Yeah, I also think there's like there is

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I think we've talked about this before, but like there are some like fifth

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element crossover things like just aesthetic wise, like gadgets and devices and stuff like

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that that do find their way someone
just yelling us the whole time. Yeah,

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I mean, like I just again, I know that's a homework assignment

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where you need to watch someone opera. He hasn't. Can we do?

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Can we do like a giant bomb? Watch along? Yes, we have

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this. We've had this exact conversation, I think at least once. If

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we running out past it already,
we're not. We're not this. Hey,

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this show's got a long wrong way. Let me tell you. Oh

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man, now I got I got
a real cute little message from someone being

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like a named Vicious. You haven't
posted, Jeff, Jeff's you know?

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Is it is it still? Is
it still going? And it's like,

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yeah, you little weakling, of
course it's still going. Really, what

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a weird No, I'm kidding.
That's great a discord Froze and John your

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face was like in this angry Grimace
post. Yeah, exactly that for like

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four seconds. Oh ship, I'm
not fast enough on the screen grabs.

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You don't have to catch you next
time. There we go. Yeah,

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but we should arrange that. Put
it in the candy Christmas bonus or something.

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Yeah, Jeff, can you figure
that out please? Thanks? Got

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it. She remembers that last time
she was a Vicious, he kidnapped her,

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and he also tried to kill Spike, so she was like, that

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sucks. Not happy about this relationship. A Spike finds Vicious on a snowy

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field and confronts him while also saying
hello Lynn. He's like seeing Julia without

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me, are you hey? Lynn? You look like a big boy now.

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So he hasn't seen Lynn since he
left the syndicate, and suddenly the

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two start squaring off the battle the
sword versus gun, bringing up the age

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old question what would win, which
is a dumb one because obviously gone so

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time? You know? The is
it Mitserugi from Soul Caliber mm hmm,

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And his whole storyline is like he
wants sword that's strong enough to be a

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gun, to be a gun.
Yeah. I remember I was reading a

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magazine article where they're like, you
know, going through all the characters and

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they just go, this is like
soul Caliber three. And he's like,

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he's still looking for a sword that
can beat a gun. Perhaps he should

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just buy a gun. Yeah,
it's funny because like there's other characters in

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the fucking game that have guns,
and he's like, man with a gun

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any day now, Blacksmith is gonna
produce a sword that is so sharp.

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He just he just like, if
he could only get the sword gun from

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Final Fantasy eight, his left would
be complete. That would be perfect.

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So they're about to square off and
Lynn steps in between them and takes a

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shot. Does he take a shot? Actually no, no, he steps

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in between them and then Spike is
like, what are you doing? You

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need to move, and then Lynn
pulls his gun out, and then we

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caught to Fey who's like got her
gun out and is like slowly moved towards

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the shower to try and get the
upper hand on Gren before Gren takes the

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control of the situation, maybe kidnaps
her. When she all is the shower,

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she sees that Gren is has Buba
and Pepe describe it and how exactly.

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Yeah, that's why. That's what
I'm going with, is that the

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medical that is what the medical term
is. I'm only saying that because I

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saw a tweeting with someone said Booba
and Pepe yesterday. It made me laugh.

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So, yeah, she questions him
about this and he's basically or they're

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basically like, I am both genders
and neither, which is interesting way to

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present that. Like, I thought
all of this was kind of cool.

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I don't love him like looming over
fake because that does go back to some

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trophy ship, but like I'm into
Graham not being into women and like I'm

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into you know, them just being
like this kind of intergender person because it's

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like you don't get a lot of
that. But I think later when it's

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like it was a medical thing that
went wrong, it's like, oh,

404
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.799
like I think yeah, and it's
again, it made me like this so

405
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:12.319
much. If they're if they're just
like, yeah, it's just what I

406
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:16.359
am. Does gre does Gren present
it as something bad? I don't think

407
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:22.559
My read is like never that is
necessarily not necessarily bad. But I think

408
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:27.119
it's kind of like it's this off
it was unintended. Yeah, yeah,

409
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.599
and I think I would have liked
that it was intense, like if they

410
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.880
just leave the character. But Gren
seems fine, Yeah, that's the thing.

411
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:38.119
Like it's a very like it literally
is like it literally is like I

412
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.160
took some pills and now I've got
boobs. But like that that is the

413
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:47.160
instansitive part of it. But there's
no like I'm disgusted with myself and this

414
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.039
is horrible. Yea very much like, yeah, this is the way it

415
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:58.279
is. Yeah, compared to every
like ninety nine percent of other things.

416
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.359
It's actually like, aside from the
pill part, it's actually decent. Yeah,

417
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:07.400
and no one's like in any other
show anime, like someone would be

418
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.760
shown being repulsed by it, but
even Faye doesn't really react to it,

419
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.719
and Face is like okay whatever.
So I feel like there is some credit

420
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:21.159
due here where it's just like not
presented as something negative by the characters.

421
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.840
The earlier stuff of Julius is stereotypical, a bit trophy, but I think

422
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:30.119
this part is handled relatively well in
that it's not doesn't become the focal point

423
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:34.559
of some sort of mockery or like, there's no like commentary on it.

424
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.599
It's just the way it is,
other than the weirdness of how it happens.

425
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:54.079
Yeah yeah. Spike yells at Lynn
to move out the way, but

426
00:34:54.159 --> 00:35:00.880
Lynn shoots him in the chest instead, and Spike falls to the ground Vicious

427
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:06.960
and then Lynn just like peace out
and leave him in the snow. Jupiter

428
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:13.800
Jazz Part two begins with Gren explaining
the story to Fay. So he was

429
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:19.360
in a war with Vicious, fighting
in a war with Vicious on Titan.

430
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.360
It's like trench warfare style thing and
he finds. Gren finds Vicious listening to

431
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:30.599
a little music box playing a song
called Julia. Gren asked if he could

432
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:34.519
play the song on his saxophone after
the war, and Vicious hands him the

433
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:40.360
music box and just kind of like
doesn't say anything. M Vicious gets up

434
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.039
to go away, and then suddenly
quickly turns and like pulls his knife out

435
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.039
and stabs at Gren. So it
looks like he's quickly turned on him,

436
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.440
But what's actually happening is there's a
scorpion right next to Gren's face and he

437
00:35:53.519 --> 00:36:02.519
stabs that one of those Jupiter moon
scorpions. Hot of very a lot of

438
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:09.400
intention in this scene. Oh yes, hot, way more sexual than when

439
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:15.320
they did it in Predatory. Not
that war sexy. That's that's the takeaway.

440
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.920
Well, no Vicious is sexy.
Hm, No, it's not a

441
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:25.480
debate. No. Gren explains to
Fay that when he came back from the

442
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:30.320
war, he was actually sent to
prison because he was accused of espionage and

443
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:36.639
being a spy, and it was
Vicious that testified against him. Pretty vicious.

444
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.800
Yeah, he was pretty pissed off
about this and kind of lost his

445
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:46.320
mind in prison, and that's why
he was subjected to an experimental drug which

446
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:52.920
caused his hormones to become imbalanced and
thus Buba and people. So I think

447
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.760
if there's there's like one thing you
could maybe say that, like Bebop is

448
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:01.440
guilty of I think it's occasionally an
episode so they just exposition dump a lot

449
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:07.480
of shit in there, and sometimes
I don't think it really helps. And

450
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.239
this bit kind of took me out
of the whole thing a little bit because

451
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.679
it was like, oh, it's
a lot of lot of heavy things you

452
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.119
just kind of dropped about, like
you know who this character is and why

453
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.239
they're doing what they're doing, but
it's all compressed down into like a couple

454
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.599
of lines. Yeah. I think
a lot of shows that do that.

455
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:28.440
The thing I hate about it is
it comes at the cost of a conversation

456
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.519
where that stuff can still be presented
to the audience, but instead of having

457
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:36.880
one person just dump it, they
often missed the opportunity of having the other

458
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.639
person ask questions about it because they
need to preserve like the characterization, and

459
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.719
in Phay's case, like they have
presented Fay as kind of like ambivalent to

460
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:49.079
everyone around them, and if she
was in a situation where she took an

461
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.920
interest in Grend's story and ask questions, which would have been a better way

462
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.559
to tell the narrative. It kind
of undermines her character as someone who's aloof

463
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.320
and only cares about herself and doesn't
really care about anyone else's information. So

464
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.480
I feel like it's say, they
kind of backed themselves into a corner with

465
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:07.199
who's partaking in this scene, which
is why I feel like it also pulled

466
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.840
you out of it, because most
humans would just be like, why doesn't

467
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:19.159
she ask him the questions instead of
just having this dump of information interesting Faye.

468
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:25.800
Then Gren said that he intended to
meet Vicious and learn that learned whether

469
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.800
and ask him whether he actually testified
against him to frame him and then face

470
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.119
like he's just going to kill you
man, And Gren's like, I'm not

471
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:38.599
afraid of him as well. What
do you guys think of Grin or sorry,

472
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:47.000
Grin Vicious sidekick Lynn? Lynn?
Yeah, as my mom, So

473
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:53.400
that goes deep. Yeah, okay, that's a different angle for you,

474
00:38:54.000 --> 00:39:00.519
and I'll let you process that.
Also good at making musicals, yep,

475
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:08.199
yep, this Disney Disney person for
sure. Oh the crickets that you do.

476
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.880
She's in the discord soundboard and that's
not going to get recorded, but

477
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:21.320
it is quite funny, my siren. The other thing is yeah, or

478
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.000
like the music from Persona done by
Lynn. Mm hmm, we met we

479
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:34.559
met Lynn already, correct my mom, Nope, talking about yep, Yeah,

480
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.239
we've met. We met Lynn in
the last episode. Yeah, oh

481
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.360
yeah, no, no, no, but I mean before that, before

482
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:45.599
that, I don't believe so well
you might have been in if we did.

483
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:50.280
It's very brief. Yeah, he's
never been named as a character like

484
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:54.079
or like presented as someone important.
He might have most been knocking around in

485
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.639
the background, which is why,
which is why they have the line Wire

486
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.599
spikes like you've grown up, Like
if if we had met him before that,

487
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:09.519
we would have known. So they
contextualize him a bit more. Uh

488
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:15.679
So, Fay says that Vicious is
just gonna kill him. Grand says doesn't

489
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.719
care. And then we've asked.
Faye asks like why did you bring me

490
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:23.079
here? And Green Green's like wanting
to be around someone before I go and

491
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:28.119
do this thing. And then Face
likes, very selfish of you to bring

492
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.920
someone here to be with you and
then go off and die, which is

493
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:38.440
a fair point. She quickly opens
fire on Grin, presumably still believing that

494
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:42.320
she's in danger. I don't know
otherwise, it's a very weird situation to

495
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.440
be like, don't go and die. Actually I'm gonna shoot at you.

496
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:51.840
But yeah, he kind of like
dodges and disarms her and then handcuffs her.

497
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:57.840
Jet meanwhile is walking around. He's
in the arresta house and shows a

498
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:00.400
picture of Bay to the bartender,
who's like, yep, she was here

499
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:06.079
last night. It's been a long
time since I've seen a hot woman,

500
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:09.800
so I would remember, trust me, And he's like, she kind of

501
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.719
reminds me of Julia, another hot
woman. I remember, she used to

502
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.920
say on the same weird lighte where
He's like, I haven't seen a woman

503
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:21.719
that beautiful in two years. Yeah, when I saw the last Yeah,

504
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.159
yeah, two years ago, I
saw another beautiful woman. It's just like

505
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:31.159
cataloging every beautiful woman that he finds. Spike, meanwhile, is knocked out

506
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:38.000
and recounting kind of like moments from
his past in his unconscious state. It's

507
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.559
the red rose in the rain that
we've seen a lot, the buquet of

508
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.719
roses by the window, the open
vial of red eye, and then the

509
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:51.119
shot of Spike and Vicious going back
to back in a shootout as partners and

510
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.679
Julia had the window. Vicious is
in bed with Julia, and then Spike's

511
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:58.639
on an operating table receiving his transplanted
eye. I think, is this the

512
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.800
first time we kind of see or
learn that one of his eyes is not

513
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.920
real? He mentions it in the
he kind of alludes to it before.

514
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.119
Yeah, I think we have seen
the eye floating in a glass. Oh

515
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.639
right, yeah, that was like
in the first episode. Yeah, but

516
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.320
he never actually then, we never
actually get direct confidence. This is the

517
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.760
first time that we see like,
oh, he's got a fake guy.

518
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.639
And the flashback Spike is talking about
like leaving the syndica and he asked Julia

519
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:30.320
to run away with him. He's
shooting a machine gun that's hidding aside the

520
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:36.760
buquet of roses, and then Julia's
like ripping up a paper in the at

521
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:40.079
the window and dropping it, and
then Viciuses can be heard saying like,

522
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:45.920
am I gonna be betrayed? And
then Julia is saying someone's going to kill

523
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.800
someone else. It's a lot of
like similar imagery from the previous episodes that

524
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.719
we've seen, except this all condensed
into one like long sequence this time.

525
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:59.800
Maybe maybe it's just me, but
I always love I love that, Like

526
00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:04.199
it feels like we're being given like
two thirds of the pieces, but never

527
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:08.599
really enough to put it all together. Yeah, And I do think it's

528
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:14.079
an effective strategy of like storytelling,
because I think the more you kind of

529
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.239
like unlock each episode, you're granted
like like you've earned it right, Like

530
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:22.199
you've earned the right for the historical
exposition, which I think is fun because

531
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.639
it's like, oh, you're starting
to like see what this is all about.

532
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.360
Here you go another memory kind of
like has a little bit more elucidation,

533
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:34.079
so that that's fun for sure.
Elucidation Is that a word? Or

534
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.480
is it just a lucid day?
I know elucida is a word, but

535
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:44.760
is elucidation a word? Elucidation is
a word? Yeah, you know it's

536
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:49.000
it's eleven am on a Thursday.
Well, it's two o'clock where I live,

537
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:54.119
two o'clock somewhere, big woods,
Big words out pizza for this.

538
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.840
I'm so excited. Oh what kind
of pizza for you? This place called

539
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.480
pi it's called it The Silence Till
two of pizza places. Are you gonna

540
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:07.119
wear your family, he'll sweater or
your T shirt when you order it both.

541
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.280
That's the whole idea, okay,
And will you say I'm wearing this

542
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:15.280
shirt because I believe this place to
be the style Hill two of pizza places.

543
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:16.639
And then you'll just have to like
explain all that, yeah, and

544
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:23.519
there'll be like like a video could
you please just you do you want?

545
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:30.800
And I'll be like in a minute, I don't know, I don't know

546
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:36.480
how to not talk about this for
ninety minutes. I'm sorry. Then Spike

547
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:40.280
is remembering more recent stuff, that
moment where he has that shoot out with

548
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:45.159
Vicious second time and he's knocked out
for a really long time and Fay is

549
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:50.480
by his side after he falls out
the cathedral thing. Then he recalls a

550
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.400
conversation with Julia where he explains that
his eyes were different colors. He says

551
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:58.599
his left eye sees the past,
and she's like, what is what about

552
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.639
the other one? And then you
don't get stuff for that. He wakes

553
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:05.920
up and he's got a crow sitting
on his chest, just squawking away.

554
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:09.599
And what's like seeing other people live
your dream? I hate it so much.

555
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.800
I wish a crow would sit on
me and squawk away. You just

556
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:16.760
want to be you want to be
like smushed by a crow? Is that?

557
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:21.159
I just want to have a crow
as a friend. Oh, crows

558
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:24.719
seem cools are amazing. What's the
video that you sent me the other day?

559
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:31.159
Lucier of the crow says, how
yeah, crow speaking? How where

560
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.960
are crows? Like? Like what's
their native habitat? Like? Where are

561
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:40.400
they? Where are the all the
crows? Yeah, they're like they're kind

562
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:45.000
of like they're just everywhere right,
like there and anyway, everywhere and nowhere?

563
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.519
Yeah, where are the woods and
forests and that kind of stuff.

564
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.280
I've been thinking of getting a tattoo
of a crow. Oh I would love

565
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:59.039
that. So I would love to
get a tattoo a crow. Crowbros,

566
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:04.039
crowbrows, I would like it.
And people telling people to be like,

567
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:08.519
oh here comes the crow bros.
Yeah. What was what were you calling

568
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:13.559
yourself on You're the final gamer?
Right? Yes, that is my idea.

569
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.559
I remember and on the stream I
said like I could be the first

570
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:21.000
gamer and people were like, yes, that's great. That good. Yeah,

571
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.800
and the final and first game pretty
cool in America. I know,

572
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:29.840
I don't know, Lucy, but
I really want to be a crow man

573
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.280
as well. So it's kind of
it's like if it's kind of a meat

574
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.840
time thing, you know, like
like not that you wouldn't make it good

575
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.000
one, but I just feel like
it would be kind of weird, like

576
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:44.719
help help me out here to stuff
like spook spookster. You know, I'm

577
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.000
a pro spooky man. You could
be like a you know, like a

578
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:54.679
little little frog boy, like a
little momo man. You mean, the

579
00:46:54.760 --> 00:47:01.400
second best spooky animal up against the
crow. Of course, the next logical

580
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:07.400
animal is the very very scary frog. Yeah. That was going to be

581
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:12.599
the follow up to the movie The
Crown and the Fucking Frog. Yeah.

582
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.760
American crows, I'm not I don't
mean it in a mean way, but

583
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.159
just I think, you know,
me and me and Tam crows are kind

584
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:22.400
of our thing. But then like
you get it if you're a crow as

585
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.719
well, it's kind of like,
well, what does it even mean?

586
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.599
You guys have absolutely yeah, do
you want to? Jeff, you and

587
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.360
I can have no, Lucy,
you'd make it. You'd make a great

588
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.719
crow, bro. Yeah, I
think I think, Oh, well,

589
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.599
what a weird turn of events.
So yeah, I can't believe that the

590
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.119
door closed behind Lucy coming into have
we can have the tattoos be of like

591
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:51.039
the three crows, but they each
look a different direction and a crow.

592
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.800
I will get a crow tattoo this
weekend. I don't give a ship.

593
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:59.559
Get like three on a clothes line. We get, we get, we

594
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:04.000
get. Lucy is like demonstrating where
on her bodicept the crow would go.

595
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.800
Yeah, we get the clothesline.
But we have the three crows, but

596
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.760
we only have one of them each, So like your crow will be on

597
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.840
the middle, one looking straight like
John could be left looking left. Mine

598
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:21.039
will be right, and then when
they're together they form like one Charlie's angel.

599
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:27.079
Yeah, and then I'll get just
get like the frog on my ankle

600
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:31.599
looking up at the cool crows.
Everyone not really part of this, right,

601
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.320
that's been made clear to me.
I'm aware that I'm not. You

602
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.360
can get like an old lady with
a broom, and then you can like

603
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.440
stand next to us. It looks
like you're trying to like poke the crows

604
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:46.679
out. Can we rename the discord
crowbros. I feel like, yeah,

605
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:51.719
this feels good. Yeah, yeah
good. I mean we'll have to make

606
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:53.719
another channel for Jeff, but yeah, and It's going to be really awkward

607
00:48:53.760 --> 00:49:00.280
communicating between two channels, but yeah, yeah, yeah, feels great.

608
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:06.400
It feels good. Spike is trying
to stand up and he realizes that actually

609
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:10.159
he wasn't a shot by Lynn.
He was tranquilized by Lynn, which bothered

610
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:15.400
me. Can we do Lucy?
Can we get a Alan Partridge? Lyna

611
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:20.960
have been tranquilized, Lyne? You've
tranquilized me with a Spike. That's very

612
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:27.119
I love. I'm a big Steve
Coogan. He's just done a documentary what

613
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.039
not Documentary's just done a docu drama
about Jimmy Saval where he plays Jimmy Savill.

614
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:36.760
Is that a good idea? Okay? Well, apparently his performance is

615
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:38.639
incredible, but the rest of the
show is not that good. Can I

616
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:45.320
tell you guys, just real?
Steve kind of one of the most insane

617
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:52.119
Patreon messages I've ever gotten someone who's
already donated. Wait wait, wait,

618
00:49:52.239 --> 00:50:00.000
Jeff doesn't know who Jimmy Saval is. Jimmy is a dude, world class.

619
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:05.920
Is who Jimmy Savile is. He's
a He is the most prolific pedophile

620
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.039
in all of human history. Probably
he was like knighted. He hung out

621
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:14.760
with the Queen and Charles. He
hosted Top of the Pops and like a

622
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.840
bunch of big, big TV shows, and he made a whole thing about

623
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.559
being really charitable and raising money for
kids hospitals, and he would just go

624
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:31.039
around and just that. But I
believe that most of the British media covered

625
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:36.199
for him. Yeah, google him
and you tell me he doesn't look like

626
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.239
a pedophile. Yeah, like,
of course with the context, you know,

627
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.800
like looking at that man, you
should horrifying. He's a he's a

628
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:51.599
gargoyle. What else he died?
Oh yeah, he died. This came

629
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.159
out to so right, all right, Well that's you know, look,

630
00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:00.519
yeah, but I see the Steve
the Cougan side by side, and that

631
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:06.159
is deeply upsetting. John. Yeah, I've never heard of this. So

632
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.719
I got a Patreot message, which
mean someone has already donated me money to

633
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:14.760
contact me on Patreon, and they
said, hello, sir, I was

634
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:21.199
wondering if you would be interested in
a promotional opportunity to do with a video

635
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.599
game company. And so I hadn't
seen the message, and then several minutes

636
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:31.159
later they sent a follow up message, Actually just wanted to check that you're

637
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:39.559
not a Jimmy Saville type. What
you're not? No, Tom, No,

638
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:44.360
I'd be willing to go on a
limb and say that me and Jimmy

639
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:49.039
Saville have next to nothing in common. I think there are a few people

640
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.159
I am less like than Jimmy Saville. Just to get out out there,

641
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:58.280
I think, I think, yeah, this person is probably using like very

642
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:00.840
battery wish to be like, you
know, a freak, you know,

643
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:08.039
a way to well saying you're not
a freak. Mm hmmm, can we

644
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:15.000
go? Can we go back to
this ridiculous way that they left u us

645
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:22.119
hanging with Spike seemingly being shot by
Lynn. You are mad about the tranquilizer?

646
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:28.119
Come on, come on, what
are we doing? Because I'm sure

647
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.280
Spike didn't have a tranquilizer bullet in
his gun and let me tell you that.

648
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.400
All right, what are we doing? Look? I don't get it.

649
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.760
What's the what's the problem. I
just think a tranquilizer bullet is stupid?

650
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:42.440
I think, Sorry, I understand
what's happening. This is Jeff saying

651
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.360
I could survive a tranquilizer bullet.
No, you couldn't know that is that

652
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:53.440
is not what not in the in
the way that like they penetrate your body,

653
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:57.559
Like, what are we doing.
It's the future. They have spaceships.

654
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:02.159
It's the future. We have space
ships and tranquilizer bullets and answering machines.

655
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:10.480
It's awesome. So yeah, tranquilize. I'm able to suspend my disbelief.

656
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:16.639
It's fine. I just think,
are you It's just just I'm clear

657
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:21.039
here, Just so I'm clear.
Sure in the modern day, we literally

658
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:27.639
have tranquilizer bullets that can penetrate rhinoceros
arts, and they don't think in the

659
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:31.760
future we don't have tranquilizer bullets that
could punch through a soft jacket. Of

660
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.039
course we did. Of course that's
just the problem. To lend my problem,

661
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.320
I just think it's stupid. I
can believe it to be true in

662
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:46.199
the future while simultaneously also thinking it's
stupid and a stupid way to like get

663
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:52.239
out of Do you think that it's
you think that it's stupid that you think

664
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.039
that is stupid that a man who
has a long history with another man and

665
00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:00.039
potentially a friendship and has been through
various, you know, high stakes death

666
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.920
defying situations would choose to use to
tranquilize a gun instead of a real gun

667
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.679
against it. I mean, I
guess we learned all that context. Uh.

668
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:13.360
Sure, Look, it's fine that
they did that for me. It's

669
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:17.360
like, Okay, let's establish tranquilizer
bullets at some other point in the twelve

670
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:22.280
episodes prior and then maybe I would
have been a little bit happier. So

671
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.360
you want them to at some point
they stand up on this. It's a

672
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:31.920
real shame that we didn't put eight
minutes into establishing tranquilizers somewhere in Caboy Bebop

673
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.599
yep. I just want to point
out it's the one American on this podcast

674
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:44.280
that's like bloodthirsty about killing and shooting. It's like, it's unacceptable, you

675
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.800
are twisting my words. I mean, nevertheless, seems fairly clear. We'll

676
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:52.199
let the audience decide. Tweet at
Jeff back a lot to tell him whether

677
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:58.679
he's blood thirsty or not. Thanks
Jet asks. Uh. The Spike is

678
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.239
realizes that been tranquilized and he's just
struggling to get up, and he's like,

679
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:06.079
I'm being mocked by Linn. This
is what he's doing. He didn't

680
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:07.800
shoot me with an actual gun.
He shot me with a tranquilizer gun.

681
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:15.800
That had no context and wasn't introduced
in previous sense of humor. Jet meanwhile

682
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:22.519
is asking a man for the Orlando
Apartments, which is a blue building,

683
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.679
and he's like he doesn't want anything
to do with foreigners and leaves, and

684
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:31.159
then Jet notices the building is nearby. He finds Gren's apartment and he's like

685
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:37.760
walking around with his gun out and
ready to fire any threats. And then

686
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:42.039
he finds Fay cuffed to her bed, handcuffed and she's all a groggy and

687
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:47.800
Jeff Barlas Backlas like hell, yeah, let's go. Spikes made it back

688
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:54.280
to the Swordfish too, and tries
to find Vicious, but he's like faced

689
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:58.840
with this weird ancient code that he's
like, what the fuck, And then

690
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:00.719
he gets a call from Jet,
who says he lets Spike back on the

691
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:07.079
crew if he helps to get Gren
elsewhere. The deal between Vicious and Gren

692
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:12.199
is starting. Gren is disguised as
a woman and he's making his way to

693
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:16.760
the drug deal with Vicious on this
abandoned skyscraper roof which is nutlike the outskos

694
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:22.960
of the town. And then Jet
observes that Faye didn't sabotage the sword Fish

695
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.280
and hammerhead, which kind of seems
like she wanted them to find her,

696
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.679
and she's like nope. She says
there's only two twenty long in the ship's

697
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:36.679
safe, which Jet was surprised to
hear on Bebop. Meanwhile, they just

698
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.880
use the opportunity to remind people that
Ed is there and doing stuff. She's

699
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:45.039
just playing with Iron and asking you
about where her souvenirs are. It was

700
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:49.840
very cute when when Ed uses Iron
as a little pillow. Yeah, yeah,

701
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.079
no, I mean Iron doesn't seem
like he's up for this. Yeah,

702
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.559
I got hurt. You don't hurt. I use peanut as a little

703
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:59.039
pillow. Yeah, so do I, But like I don't like smash my

704
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.079
head into Yeah it was like a
head bud. I'm like holding my weight

705
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:06.800
as well. Yeah, sure you're
not putting it all on your This actually

706
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:10.400
reminds me last night Miko did the
weirdest thing where she decided she was going

707
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:15.039
to sleep on my pillow just like
slightly above my head and kept going there

708
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.639
and I had to keep picking her
up and moving her because she was like

709
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.960
pushing me off my own pillow.
Eventually, I just don't care about you,

710
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.400
called Lily, who did that.
She I eventually gave Pillow. She

711
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:30.800
would like, Yes, that's exactly
what she was doing, very warm,

712
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:32.760
That's exactly what she was doing,
and she's never done it before, so

713
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:38.320
I was like very confused by this. On the rooftop, Gren drops the

714
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:42.679
bag of Red Eye and slowly backs
away from it. Lynn approaches it and

715
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.920
expect inspects it and uses this like
potency reader took firm that the Red Eye

716
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:52.800
is X plus. But it's the
real deal, Vicious tells Lynn. Yeah.

717
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:57.280
Vicious tells Lynn to give the disguised
Gren a suitcase containing the Titan Opal

718
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:02.519
as requested. Lynn walks back,
and then Gren reveals himself, kicking the

719
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:07.519
suitcase back towards Vicious and shooting it
and revealing that there's a bomb there.

720
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:15.599
That was cool. Yeah. It
immediately explodes. Lynn is only slightly injured,

721
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:20.920
and from a distance it yeah.
It cuts to Spike, and Spike

722
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:28.679
sees the explosion and jumps in the
ship to approach. We'll get his Gren

723
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:32.320
then explains to Vicious how Julia found
the solar transmitter that was hitting inside the

724
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:37.320
music box that Vicious gave to Gren
all those years ago. Gren asks Vicious

725
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.400
if he's trying to kill him again
and talked about how it talks about how

726
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:44.199
they fought in a war together and
they were comrades, and how he had

727
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:46.039
looked up to Vicious, and then
Vicious is just like, there's no need

728
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.920
to believe in anything. So he's
basically saying like, I don't care about

729
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.880
myself, I don't care about anyone
else. Gren opens fire and Lynn jumps

730
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:59.119
into the line of fire and takes
a bullet for him. Idiot, What

731
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.559
a dumbass. Take him up on
it, Lyne, What an actual dumbas

732
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:07.559
a man bound by honor, Jeff, he will not betray you. There

733
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:14.920
are just weird little like loyalty oddities
and tying up this little story here,

734
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:21.400
But we'll get there, Grene.
Spike overhead and legs it, jumps in

735
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.440
and tries to escape in the ship. Vicious takes a red eye and leaves

736
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:28.440
Lynn behind just dying on the ground, so proving that Vicious really doesn't care

737
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:32.039
about anyone by himself. Spike gives
chase and tries to track down Vicious in

738
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:38.679
his vehicle and does a two on
one dog fight, and he kind of

739
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:44.480
also like confronts Vicious about the way
he's kind of left Linn to die,

740
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:49.159
and Vicious says that Lynn wasn't protecting
him, but he was protecting the Red

741
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:54.199
Dragon order. And as Vicious is
about to shoot Spike, Gren cuts him

742
00:59:54.239 --> 01:00:00.920
off, and Vicious and missile at
gren Gren's craft and it hits him,

743
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.000
sending the ship like careening into the
ground. Spike decides to break off and

744
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:12.199
save Gren and kind of ducks behind
a building to save them, and then

745
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:17.039
Vicious hears the Julia tune being played
in the music box and then realizes that

746
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:21.679
Gren hit it inside the bag of
Red Eye and when the song ends,

747
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:27.199
the solar transmitter activates and causes an
explosion and it destroys one of the wiggings

748
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:31.719
of Vicious the ship. With this
wing taken out, he just about manages

749
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:37.199
to fly the ship back to the
Red Dragon ship and Spike disengages and lands

750
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:43.840
next to Gren's aircraft. He asked
Gren where to find Julia, but Gren

751
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:49.719
like spits up blood from the injury, and then Gren asks Spike to help

752
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.280
him onto the ship so he can
fly back to Titan and to try to

753
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:57.320
see it one more time before he
dies. Pike puts him in the ship.

754
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:01.719
Gren then realizes whose Spike is and
says that Julia talked about him a

755
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:07.760
lot. She doesn't actually, he
doesn't actually tell Spike where she is.

756
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:13.360
Now, No, no, Spike
tows his grind ship into space and then

757
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:17.920
he goes back to the Bebop after
telling uh Jet that he isn't bringing in

758
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.039
anything. Jet lets him inside.
Then we returned to the canyon in the

759
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:25.000
desert. We're laughing. Bull and
his son are watching a shooting star in

760
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:30.440
the sky. Bull tells the kid
that it's not an ordinary star. It's

761
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:34.480
a tear of a warrior who has
finished his battle on his planet and could

762
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:37.960
not find his way to the lofty
realm where the great spirit awaits everyone.

763
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.280
Okay, let's unpack all this.
Okay, okay, all right, Jeff,

764
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:46.199
all right, okay, but she
was tied to the bed with handcuffs,

765
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:53.960
right, meaning it wouldn't be weird. No, listen, okay,

766
01:01:54.320 --> 01:02:04.159
I'm not talking about sentence. Oh
I'm joking. Do you get a little

767
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.480
game where we try and like,
what noise do you think Jeff made when

768
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:14.239
he saw that? Because I think
it was something like that. Oh all

769
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.400
right, that actually got me good. That's funny, that's funny. Uh,

770
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:19.719
No, what I want to know
is, Okay, so Gren and

771
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.960
Vicious they're fighting in this war together. They seem to be like or at

772
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:27.239
least Gren has like, oh,
we're better friends than we actually are.

773
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:34.360
And then we find out that like
Vicious turned on Gren even though he saved

774
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:40.760
Gren's life with killing that scorpion,
and like, I don't understand how like

775
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:45.440
all that happens in the past,
and I realized like vicious actions led to

776
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:51.559
Gren's like incarceration, right or what
happened like Greg got put away or whatever

777
01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:54.800
it is. And I and now
Gren's like, well, however I tie

778
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:59.400
up this, I'm gonna die,
like whatever's gonna happen? Like I just

779
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:04.239
don't like something about that felt sort
of like unearned and like over dramatic.

780
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:08.480
I just don't know why that had
to be without a doubt no matter what,

781
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:13.599
like they tell you in the apartment, like Gren's gonna die. Gren's

782
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:16.760
actually gonna die either Vicious is gonna
kill him or whatever's gonna happen. And

783
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:20.639
I just I want to know how
that sits with you all. How do

784
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.440
you take all that remembering was there
not something about Gren having a disease or

785
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:30.000
something? Yeah, yeah that okay, maybe that went right over my head.

786
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:35.280
They say that they had like they
were given this experimental drug, and

787
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:40.559
it was like, yeah, so
Gren's like terminal. Yeah, okay,

788
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:44.800
well that changes things a little bit. I also think it is a bit

789
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:50.360
sort of like either way disease or
not, right, Like Gren pretty much

790
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:53.960
leaves the apartment for like what they
believe to be the last time, and

791
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:58.280
it's like, I'm gonna have this
final showdown with Vicious and you know,

792
01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:01.760
I'm kind of with you, like
they're swear. There's stuff I really like

793
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:09.960
about Gren. I think as a
whole, his character never quite gets there

794
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.199
for me, which is frustrating because
I think I think Gren's cool, Like

795
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:16.639
I like grenn Yeah, And there's
it's just something where it's like that last

796
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:23.159
ten just ain't clicking. I feel
like, yeah, they just it's just

797
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:28.480
missing like the least bit of like
expositional closure there to kind of make it

798
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:34.880
all make sense. Maybe. Also
not that I'm upset with the bookending of

799
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:42.559
like the you know, the Chief
the laughing Bull, but like, what's

800
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:46.079
that about? Are they? Are
they on Jupiter on one of the moons?

801
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:50.119
Are they? Like? What what
is that? What are we doing

802
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:55.280
there, American. I'm just curious, Jeff, No, I'm not.

803
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:59.320
I know, I know who they
are, but they're on the moon,

804
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.079
Like, is that just to sort
of like bookend it all together? I

805
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:06.119
guess it's just yeah, because it's
a two politics. Yeah, yeah,

806
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:09.880
and sure, sure, sure,
sure, that's how I took it to

807
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:13.079
be. I'm just wondering if you
all thought there was like some other kind

808
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:17.880
of like messaging going on there,
not especially like it reminds me a lot

809
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:24.599
of the scene they even do the
same like sand in the hand thing that

810
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:28.400
they did in episode one, So
it reminded me a little bit of that

811
01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:30.280
and that, like, you know, that's kind of something that Spike's always

812
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:33.800
been kind of attuned to. But
no, I don't think they're senting much

813
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:40.559
to it beyond like it being like
a little bookend little device there. Cool.

814
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.480
Okay, So yeah, that's that's
the only stuff I had to talk

815
01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:47.599
out with you all. I'm glad
everything else, okay, Yeah, you

816
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:49.800
know, look, I really enjoy
this stuff. I really, I really

817
01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:54.119
enjoyed. I think again, the
whole Grenz demise is a bit over dramatic

818
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:56.559
for me for my taste of what
we were sort of trying to do here,

819
01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:02.639
especially with the character, but excellent
stuff, like truly excellent again,

820
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:08.079
Like you're not gonna hear me complain
much about what I now know is the

821
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:11.119
perfect anime. So what I was
gonna say, I was sat next to

822
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:14.599
wait, I was next to I
was sent next to Jeff and the lovely

823
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:16.880
Stacy. At the wedding, we
all attended us, well not you,

824
01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:23.840
John, sorry, the wedding the
rest of us Okay, sorry, I

825
01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:28.079
mean yeah, we'll close that.
Look, we'll figure that last week,

826
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:31.159
and and I was trying. I
was trying to enjoy my lovely meal,

827
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:38.719
and Jeff just would not stop banging
on about Cowboy Bebop. It's changed him,

828
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:43.400
It is changed. He's serious.
He actually he brought it up in

829
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:48.039
a in a setting, a non
podcast setting, Stacy and I chat a

830
01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:51.679
little bit about hot, how hot
Spike was. He was just bringing it

831
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:56.840
up. It was very sweet to
see. The funny part about all that,

832
01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:59.400
for me at least, was like, You're at a table with like

833
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:02.079
twelve people and I bring up Cowboy
Bebop, Like, hey, everyone,

834
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:05.760
I've got a new cool thing for
you all, and like literally all eleven

835
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:15.079
people were like Welcome to nineteen ninety
Minny Caravella said that to you exactly like

836
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:19.199
that. It's like Vinnie went,
oh, the Netflix show, and you

837
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:23.719
went, no, the anime,
and he went welcome to nineteen ninety eight.

838
01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:29.719
Like it was just I was just
so out of my league there,

839
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.039
you know where I'm like, hey
man, I'm about to I'm about to

840
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:35.719
like talk shop with like you know, I'm going to sound this is my

841
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:40.880
conversation storry. Yeah, this is
I'm going to feel accepted here, And

842
01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:45.840
never have I felt so excluded.
It was awesome. It was awesome.

843
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:48.119
What am I to hear? What
am I feeling excluded as a big part

844
01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:51.880
of living animate Jef? Yeah?
Yeah, and I felt it firsthand.

845
01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:57.840
Yeah. Oh fucking devastating that Bebop
is actually getting taken off Netflix in America

846
01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:03.119
at the end of the month.
Yeah, that's right. Make arrangements figure

847
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:10.719
out out into crunchy rolling giving me
an account. Yeah, thanks, I

848
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:15.039
appreciate it. Shout out Tyler once
again, thank you for listening to another

849
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:19.199
episode of Jeff Jeff Adventure the Cowboy
Bebop side. Do you think we could

850
01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:24.399
do a little light custom send out
here? Yeah? Okay, So I

851
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:30.079
guess I'm gonna do like a crow
Bro call out and you guys can do

852
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.800
just a little, a little kind
of call So Tim you be crow Brow

853
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.680
one, Lucy you be Crowbro two. I'll be Crowbro three. Uh,

854
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:44.319
cro crow Brow one, go crow
Row two, Go Crowbo three Go.

855
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:53.960
And Jeff, just whatever you want
it, rub it. We'll see you

856
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:57.840
on the next episode of Jeff Jeff
Adventure. John, Where can people find

857
01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:01.239
you? What you up to?
I could just find me a pouch wolf

858
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:06.039
anywhere. I released a video recently
called the Simpsons is Good Again? And

859
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:10.279
whether it is or not, you
go watch the video to find out where

860
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:13.680
you can watch the Simpsons. But
please watch me, Jeff. Where can

861
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:17.359
people find you? Yeah? All
we all we do know is that you

862
01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:25.000
stole that title. That is true
and plagiarism is a serious defense. I

863
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:28.479
hope you've learned. And yeah,
I'll get away with it all. Hell

864
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:31.760
yeah, crimes, Baby, They're
back on the menu. I'm at Jeff

865
01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:36.920
Backler everywhere. Please draw me,
Please draw the three crow Bros And a

866
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:43.880
frog on a lily pad in a
Halloween environment. That's T shirt. That's

867
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:47.880
a T shirt. Yeah we have
Wait, what about each crow Bro is

868
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:55.000
like a different Jojo or Bebop character. And then I'm the frog can just

869
01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.720
be a frog, not just a
frog normal frog? Yeah, just a

870
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:04.399
plane the frog Izzy's face. Yeah, you've gone too far. I was

871
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:08.840
cool with the I was cool with
the whole excluding thing. Yeah, I

872
01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:11.920
did feel like that frog at that
wedding table talking about uh god, what

873
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:15.079
will you bob? So yeah,
if the shoe fits wear it is what

874
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:19.439
they say. Lucy, Where find
you? I'm at Lucy James Games every

875
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:25.800
week. Can find me on Giant
Bomb and game Spot and mostly I just

876
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:30.199
tweet about what I'm up to,
So follow me if you want to same

877
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:34.640
you follow me tomorrow, h everywhere. We will see you next time.

878
01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:45.039
Bye, Jeff. Jeff's Bizarre Adventure
is hosted by timor Hussein, Lucy James,

879
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.760
John Super Eye, Patch, Wolf
Walsh, and Me Jeff Backlar.

880
01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:53.359
Our post producer and editor is Jean
Luke Sepke. Our logo is designed by

881
01:10:53.479 --> 01:11:01.319
Justin Boshon and Jesse O'Brien. Thanks
so much for listening, Animy

