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Hello everybody, and welcome to that
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peek behind the cut and we were
just talking about James labreezing in the Big

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Chunga song if you want to know
where the headspace together has been at tonight,

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because welcome to Hyperblasts. This is
our weekly news show here on That's

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the Matter. You're weekly relcome out
on podcast. But today it's a crowded

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affair. There are four of us
here because we have just come off of

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recording the eights ed of Awful all
right before doing this? Which are we

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coming for patrons supporters as you are
hearing this, But my name is Perren

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has joining me. You know the
lists on that particular occasion we have at

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Paisley. We have Sam Dickon and
we have Marks Anderson all with us today.

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How are we all doing? Are
we holding up all right? I

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feel like I just random marathon.
I feel like I've been to confession.

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Yeah, I've had some impassioned rants
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them now it's like, oh it's
late, but we soldier on. Yeah,

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some controversial stuff thrown in there.
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hyper Blast it's a pretty easy breezy. I think welcome. As said to

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the new show, the first thing
to throw out is the maddest cap on

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the summer festival season, kind of
falling to ship when it comes to you

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know, stories, horror stories about
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I hope none of you folks listening
to this have found yourself locked out of

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Vacan Festival, having arrived into Germany
from God forbid abroad back in this weekend.

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I've actually had to cap there festival
admittance early due to excessive rain and

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extreme mud and weather conditions, which
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the festival and they were like,
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entirely, but it's too you know, muddy, it's too rainy. We

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cannot bring everyone in here. So
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eighty five thousand people who are going
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out they can't actually get in.
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mud ironically at the VACAN organizers here. I don't understand the health and safety

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or whatever what's happening, but can
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or something. Can you imagine the
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level of complaints online would be like
nothing ever seen before from rock and mail.

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It'd be the biggest controversy to happen
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in such a long time. When
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the last Damnation, it's like there's
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So if you couldn't get in,
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lot of that haven't been as far
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or anything, because, like you
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you would just go a bit mental. Yeah, you've got factually,

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you've got thirty five thousand metal fans
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to this festival and can't get in. What are they all doing? I

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don't know. Genuinely, a fucking
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to look at it twice to be
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But that is obviously happening. New
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songs or anything to talk about from
anyone in particular this time. But there

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was a video that emerged on social
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playing together practicing something, perhaps a
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after a long absence, after a
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status even was, factually they're in
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and they wouldn't have published that video
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weren't going to be doing something pretty
damn soon Marmosetts back. How are your

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feeling? I mean, I will
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teasing process where every couple of months
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planning their instrument or so. This
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get something a little bit more like, oh, hey, we might actually

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be getting the band coming back,
which fucking a but this has been drawn

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out and I can't bring myself to
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Yeah, I didn't know that they
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saw was this one than I initially
initially very very excited. I feel like

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they've been noticeably missed. Yeah,
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really like I don't admit, because
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kind of went away, not too
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happened and then COVID happened and everything. It feels so long ago that record

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never quite got his jews, and
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love to him come back with more
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to see people I guess continually excited
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over the now nearly decade of old
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long that the whole UK scene that
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into that? Yeah, I don't
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Yeah, very very much. So
excitement. I don't know if that's the

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word we could use here, But
Bustard who are a band who I don't

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know tangentially relevant to TNM. We
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review a new record of theirs or
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now and then. Then they have
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so on. There are certainly a
formative part of it for a lot of

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people of a certain generation. They
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celebrations. They have announced a Greatest
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of people you know they're going to
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selection of singles with and my god, if this list isn't a who's

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who of the worst fucking shits in
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there are a few bright spots on
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Dashboard Confessional are one of the bright
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a single fucking A Top two point
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can see. Funderbirds. I'll go
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and there their rock album they released
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pretty good Sleep with the Light.
I'm featuring Death of Annah. I

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think that could be good, you
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it and get rid of the ones
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Annah sing most things that the ones
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anything. I'm going to go for
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don't anyone else to be there with
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for completing the meme by having Jonas
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because there was a period where people
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covered. I'm looking at three Am, which is one of the dreariest bustered

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songs from the album that I had
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the spot point this collap on this
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and my expectations plummeted so fast,
so early that by the time I read

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the name wheat Us, it was
a ray of sunshine, though some of

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the most cred they have on this
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There two point zero featuring neck Deep
twenty twenty three. Neck Deep, I

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know that this is the fucking nightmare, so look forward to cracking the knuckles

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and hearing what's offer there. Elsewhere. We did get an album announcement this

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week from Twin Temple, who have
announced their second album is called God Is

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Dead usual kind of you know,
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It's going to be coming out on
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of course, meaning it's competing with
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quite huffed about, you know,
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has been quite a long time since
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of a you know, an active
you know, they toured with Ghost last

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year and that kind of thing.
That's still a thing that's been put in

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front of people, but it's been
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music from them, so I suppose
it's good to see a second album turning

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up now. This is an event
the Teutonic Thrash band, the German School

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of Thrash. They are doing their
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shows. It's obviously happening in Germany, but Creator, Sodom, Destruction and

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Tankard are all gonna be playing here
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to say the German ones. In
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Like I know, people bitch about
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are wrong and short sighted over the
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really got lifted along for the ride, didn't they. When you're next to

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Creator or fuck me, yeah it
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one that I couldn't even tell you
a Tankard song like that I could the

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other. I'm a thrash fan,
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of Tankard. I'm not even slagging
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if again the Anthrax to Metallica gap
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know, create even destruction to Tankard, it seems like the only way this

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makes sense is if tank could have
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it's like and others just going no, not really now, it was sort

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of you know, you know,
we were all together. Yeah, we

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were around. It's just I could
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or whatever, particularly when you look
at their careers are sins, It's like,

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wow, yeah, who is Does
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part of the same gang? Really? No, I think it's only because

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it's only because the Americans have the
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the fourth, so three always work
better for the Germans one because those the

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top three of this. But I
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turn this into a negative affair that
doesn't atually sound like a amazing show like

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I would have such a great time
there, and I'm sure all the German

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fans who are gonna be there with
their homegrown favorites, it's going to be

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a big event, a big event
over here. Perhaps it's a skin dred

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long time you know. Perennial fucking
favorite on the UK live music circuit.

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They are playing their biggest ever headline
date at London's Embley Arena. They're also

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gonna be playing Manes during a couple
of other places. But I'm kind of

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shocked they haven't done it before.
They feel like they've been such a huge

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thing that can sell fairly large venues
in the game for so long. I'm

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shocked they've never done a Wembley date. So they've done Wembley as like very

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special guests, essentially co headlining with
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Fat. They might've done it with
someone else, but they they've they've done

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like Wembley before as like a high
profile supports loot. But yeah, them

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doing it by themselves feels long overdue. I was just gonna I'm so toughed

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for them. I kind of on
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But the thing with skin Dred is
if you go to any festivals at

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all, you are going to get
exposed them. Like for me, I've

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seen them about six times and I
love seeing them live, but they've never

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been enough for me to buy a
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for a Skindred where on it,
it would necessarily convinced me to go,

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so I would. It could go
either way. It could either be everyone's

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seen them and everyone loves them,
so everyone everyone's gonna go, or it's

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like, well you can see them
an awful lot. There's not really a

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scarcity of Skindred good yea, even
if they are always good. I've never

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been to a Skindred headline show,
and like I am a more casual Skindred

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fan, but it is a thing
where like if you've been to you know,

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Download or Bloodstock, you've probably seen
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thing I've always said is the show
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a Skindred date that feels a little bit

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different. Right, It's not just
Skindred come around again, it's Skindred going

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for the biggest thing they've ever done, you know, a big one off

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show at Wembley. That's always special
for bands when they try and do that.

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Um Skindred having their shot at it
is you know, I hope it

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does go well for them. I
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homegrown swell of like we know you've
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this is going to be the special
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the show that likes and you want
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I mean I was. I was
amazed. They've got their first ever

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Cran cover this week. Yeah,
to go along with this, Like it

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feels like God, these are these
are things that like it's gonna have been

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such an institution of the UK music
that have been so beloved and have delivered

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so many iconic download festival performances and
moments that you kind of go, God,

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they're only now just getting their first
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Is it's kind of crazy. Yeah, So yeah, I hope it does

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go well for them. And also
Military Gun, who are one of the

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more kind of buzzy hardcore bands around
at the moment. Who are you know,

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threatening to knock on the door and
do some things that kind of post

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turnstyle wake and so on. They've
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What's Coming to the UK in December
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at Outbreak Festival, so I'm sure
a lot of people we wanted to go

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along and see them good stuff.
There not a lot of news this week,

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but as said, there are plentiful
hosts this week. So we've got

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a few questions and so we're going
to kick off with James Bentley, who

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asked, what band are you currently
stop faffing about and releasing an album about

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health? Stop faffing out and releasing
album? Well, what are we thinking?

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What are the bands where we look
at them and go, oh my

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god, please against me again.
I'm never getting it. I've given up

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hope because no other members are too
busy of doing other things. But I'm

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just like, I quite liked the
Laura Jane Gray stuff, but I just

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wanted against Me on because there is
something about against Me altogether where they bring

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up the best in Laura in particular, So just give me that, please.

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I'm tired of waitings like twenty sixteen
was the last record is getting to

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such an obscene weight. Now,
please just stop packing out and give us

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now Adam stopped drumming for Warriors even
though I love Warriors as well, and

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get back to against me. Yeah. I have a few of like you

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know, reunion bands like who only
do the nostalgia circuit and never released music

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like Funeral for a Friend. Give
me an album please, but my answer

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is donosaur paylop okay, Like Celebrity
Mansions was my my favorite album of twenty

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nineteen. I love it. I
think it's a brilliant collection of fun,

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catchy like rock anthems they've released.
I've run DMC cover during COVID, but

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it's been sort of they've not released
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desperate from that's again I was thinking
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bit of a cutoff for like how
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start being like, you know,
come on about it, like ID Health,

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which you know, the person who
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albums in twenty nineteen, but they've
released, like you know, they've released

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music. Yeah, I would like
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I wasn't thinking about them being you
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time, obviously Winter Sun, but
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for me, I have to say
Trip to Cong the last studio album

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was twenty fourteen, the follow up
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The difference there is, you know
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doing like the best originally written,
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has ever done, and then in
the years since then playing loads of the

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back catalog live where I've gotten to
see a set of hell Hammer songs,

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and you know, next weekend I'm
going to get to see Trip to Con

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play a set of Celtic Frost songs. So I can't complain about the faffing

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too heavily. But next year is
going to be the ten year anniversary of

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the last official Trip to Con studio
album. I fucking need it. This

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was Ahab for ages, but you
know, this year they've finally done that.

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We've mentioned them a few times in
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cosmic death metal a lot Catalist is
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was twenty sixteen, most of Blood
Incantations careers happened since then, It's still

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just that one album. I really
really need more and then just go through

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a list here, just throwing out
some names of bands who have been added

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to a little while. I want
new material from Acacoca nine inch Nails,

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although he said he doesn't want to
Mela Cash. It's been a long fucking

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time. Dead Congregation has been a
long fucking time new piss Grave. I

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want disphere. Thomas Lindbergh fucking toll
told me that they were working on a

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new Despair album, and this was
several years ago. I want it now,

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Gallows Visigoth. I need a new
Visigoth album like I need air in

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my lungs. Electric Wizard. It's
been a few years now and we've seen

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he was doing special on them.
I wan't bleeding through to hurry up and

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release an album. Now we're supposed
to dropping little bits and singles here and

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there. When do we start up
tool Watch again? How How long is

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long enough to go? Okay?
Tool You know the longest gap between your

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albums aside from the obvious, is
five years between latter houris in ten thousand

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days. At what point do we
start going? Are you going to follow

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up their innoculum or is that it
well next year? Well, Danny Curious,

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Sorry, Danny Curious seems to think
they were going to He was talking

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about what they have an EP that
they were going to do. They had

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all these plans for it and stuff. I know, I don't know if

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they've just given up on that with
the opiate re recording sort of thing they

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did, but I don't know it
was Tool. It's a weird one because,

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like you say in the part,
it's only been five years. But

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because of fear inoculum and the sort
of magnitude of it, I wouldn't be

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surprised if there isn't another Tool album. Yeah, I kind of wouldn't either,

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But I do think again, when
do we start too watch again?

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You know what, it's been eight
months since the last Weezard project where the

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fuckerss thrown gonna come Two Mold Actually, two Molder is one I used to

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use as a joke like they us
every year, but then they haven't released

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one for ages and they put out
like a demo of a handful of songs

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I think last year, And that
used to be like when two Mold released

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like a demo on band camp.
You know the album will be coming fairly

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soon, so I would like that
rather rather soon, only because we just

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did them on Alum Club. But
my bloody Valentine have been threatening to release

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an album for ages, like they
really it was like twenty nine teen they

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were going, We've got two EPs
done, and You're just like, that's

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an album. You're thinking of an
album? Guys. It was a couple

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of years after that they were like, oh no, now we've got two

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albums and it was like release one
that was three years ago and would just

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Kevin Shield was just going to sit
on it and then one day you'll find

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it in your own letterbox. He's
probably, you know, producing those guitars

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a thousand times over again? Is
he the fucking Winter Sun of like Shoegates?

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Like, because that sounds exactly what
Yari says, where he's like,

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I'm the fourth album that I'm currently
working on is thirty percent done. The

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third one I'm currently working on a
seventy five percent down. Is that Is

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that his approach? Yeah? Sort
of. He's not asked his fans to

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fund a Sawney yet, but the
same vibe. Tyler Ballard asked if you

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were coming to the US, what
venue would you want to visit the most.

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This is interesting one because obviously think
of historically, like you know,

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you'd want to check out CBGB's and
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for me, the music that's most
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come from the US. So I
think about you know, maybe the Florida

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death metal scene or whatever. There
aren't may necessarily hugely iconic venues associate with

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them. They're probably just bars that
have been like torn down since then.

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So the ones that came to mind
for me are going along with like CBGB's,

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which I you know, no obviously
is huge, but Saint Vituses in

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being yeah in New York is the
one where if you watch any videos now

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of like you know, whatever cool
underground extreme metal band playing their set in

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New York, it might get filmed
by someone and put on their YouTube that

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just looks like a hell of a
cool place, and that would be like

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a cool that's like a name that
actually recognized, which isn't Actually there aren't

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too many in the US that are
like that. And then the other one

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is the Red Rocks Amphitheater, which
is I recently came into possession of the

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Opeth live album from where they recorded
there, and I got that live album

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and I opened up the gate fold
and the gate fold is just like a

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photo of their show there, and
it's a real like you open up and

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go, WHOA, what's that place? Like this huge like huge fucking like

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outdoor like in the fucking like mountains
of Arizona or whatever. Um. Like,

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I grew up in Cornwall and we
have some kind of similar things,

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like we have like an out there's
like the Minac Theater, which is like

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an outdoor open air theater like on
a cliff just by you know, the

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thing that that there's almost like a
you know in a very American landscape that

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we don't have here and don't on
a much larger scale. Um, that

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looked like a cool place. Um, Sam, you're saying some vis as

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well any others. There's the other
one is a commun's called but there is.

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It's a like a church in Philadelphia
where again it's such a like iconic

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I think it's like a l convery
church and hey, five six shoots loads

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of gigs there as like like one
that I of iconic card con venues in

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that area that i'd be like,
I think going to show there. Basically

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any of the cool hard core venues
across America i'd want to check out.

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And yeah, I guess the parking
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That'd be a real place of history. The Dennis that the Denny's Grand Slam

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took place in the fuck is Up
Dennis? It's a good shout. The

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random backyard that Rick to Life played
an a cappella set. Yeah, elliot,

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did you say a people miss anything
there? Oh no, no,

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I mean you've already said a certain
Vices and Red Rock those are the two

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I had in mind as this a
couple of super iconic ones like Radio City

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Music Hall or there's a one in
Nashville, like is it Nashville Country Music

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Hall or something? Is It's also
those are more like in a touristy sense.

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Yeah, I feel like there's all
the la ones that people talk about,

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like the Rocks and everything, But
I kind of don't really care.

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I don't know why. There's no
there's not a history for me there.

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The Rainbow I don't like cool to
check out, but again it's not like

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I can. But other than that, yeah, yeah, and I'm not.

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I don't want a bit of hair
metal but or not like, oh

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my god, this is where Warren
used to play, this is where rat

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got their start. Yeah, none
that really like the ones I would care

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about that have like cultural significance.
I don't think even exists. I don't

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think CBGB's or Gilman Street or even
around any street would be cool if it

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existed. Yeah, I'm not the
answer. Yeah, that's I know very

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little about the US, all right, and Ross Bow he asks, people

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always talk about the next headliners for
download, but who do you think are

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staking a claim for Bloodstock. I've
always wanted to kill Switch, so I'm

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buzzing to finally see them get their
shot. This is a question where again

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I feel like in the mid twenty
tens to late twenty tents, there were

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so many when we were waiting for
Saboton to finally get their shot, when

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we went for a one and half, to jump up, when we went

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for a Gagia. Now there's kind
of less of that school of bands right

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now, the one that is the
equivalent I go Powerwolf when yes, like,

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if power Wolf continue their kind of
rise, I could very easily see

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them doing something similar to what Saboton
have done, and we were just speaking,

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you know, long wondered whether skin
Dred would maybe do that. You

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know, they're such a festival kind
of staple. Maybe off the back of

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this Wembley date if that goes well
for them, it could, It could

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happen. But again the flip side
is there, as you were saying,

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Elliott, our Skindred actually enough of
a draw in themselves to kind of be

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the headliner. I don't know,
but yeah, what what do I reckon

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Sam terms of like the metal core
lot in terms of either a band like

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kill Switch, who have obviously been
around for a long time but they're kind

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of being ported on here, or
the new lot hour parkwer Drive whatever.

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Like again, like you would have
said, like parkwer Drive felt like the

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obvious one from the newer school of
metal corey tomorrow. Very sorry, but

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again I don't know if they'd ever
be enough of a real draw architects with

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where they've gone once anymore. I
maybe you could have maybe seen a case

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for it if they kept doing,
you know, carried on the route from

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Holy Hell without going down the sort
of more arena rock thing. So I

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don't know if they'd ever really do
it um there's no one else really from

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that kind of like Nat because Trivium
have already done it. Although a Trivium

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I think neid a round two because
Trivium did it in twenty fifteen and it

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was, you know, famously not
their greatest hour at that point in time,

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they weren't in the fittest state as
a band. But Trivium now on

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such a high. I would love
to see them come back and really like

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almost like what Avenge did the second
time at download, like had Drivin come

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back and really smashed the second download
Bloodstock. My fear of the metal core

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lot is again you say architects of
time ago, and I don't know if

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it's right. My fear is that
Sleepdoken do it, because I think they

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do slam dunk before they do.
But they played the second stage and I

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watched them and I thought it was
really weird and I thought it didn't fit.

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But now they're just playing. They've
sold out Wembley Arena and like a

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fucking second, didn't they. So
my fear is that sleeked Oken would do

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it, and you know I would
not be there. But do we think

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Volbeat could do it? I wonder
about the Volby would be a good shout

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out. Yeah, there's a couple
of established bands who haven't had the shots

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only to kill Switch who maybe could. And the two that came to minds

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me there were Corn and Volby.
Oh Corn's a good show. Yeah.

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Yeah, I suppose Corner's got the
darkness to like they can be because if

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Rob Zombie can do it, I
expect there's no argument against like Corn.

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Yeah, I guess. I guess
it's it's where you draw the demographics and

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how many people would not like for
that to because I am very sympathetic to

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a bustock audience who goes you know, I want it to stay as Bloodstock

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again, that's my fear of something
like Sleep Tooken or Architects even was to

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go over there. But thinking about
you again, it's kind of hard because

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the way I thought about this is
you have to be bigger than Anthrax,

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right for a Bloodstock crowd as well, because Anthrax are permanently subheadliners there and

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they're in the Big Four and it's
like no one questions really whether Anthrax should

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be headlining it. But for a
blast Ac audience, Anthrax are a pretty

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big fucking band, and to surpass
them, you have Anthrax, Like you've

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got to be bigger than Anthrax to
a Bloodstock crowd in order to headline that

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festival. And even some of the
band who are really buzzy at the moment,

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like not loose, they're like halfway
up the bill this year, so

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it's not like they're even in that
subheadline stage at the moment, so that

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I think, yeah, we're there's
not as many like knocking on the door

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as there was in say twenty eighteen, and I'm curious to see what happens.

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Obviously, the ones you're wanting to
do it in a dream world like

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fucking you know, unto others or
you know, maybe malevolent or whatever.

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They got big enough, but it
feels like it's a little way off at

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the moment, hope far up to
crowd door filth play subheadlines, subheadline.

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Same with DIMMI See this is the
thing is like I always the thing,

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always found really excited about Bloodstock and
still find exciting because it always surprised me.

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Is it felt like their pool of
potential headliners was so much bigger than

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downloads, Like, yeah, lots
of different jot and then when they started

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crossing into maybe less traditionally heavy metal
stuff, it kind of opened up even

403
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:23,240
more. But like they're kind of
in that weird thing now where it's like

404
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,119
Ghosts have probably gone too big for
them to go back headline that, like

405
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,119
they He's really glad I caught the
one and only ghost blood Stock. Yeah,

406
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,640
it's not happening again. I would
love personally for it happening again,

407
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,480
but obviously it won't for you know, numbers of reasons. But catching them

408
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:38,640
at that one moment, they're like
Square Hammer just come out. That was

409
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,880
magic, And there's quite there's quite
a lot of bands at like Corns level

410
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,160
who maybe come from a similar time, who you think size wise would be

411
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,680
fine. But it's like death Tones
aren't going to headline Bloodstock. You're gonna

412
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,519
get like Disturbed or anything like that. So you basically only have Corn from

413
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:56,400
that. I know, the other
one that was thrown around a few years

414
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,039
ago, which obviously is going to
happen anymore. But like people talked about

415
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:00,200
Maldon Manson, but if you haven't
got that, you really have just got

416
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:07,519
Corner. And then in powermel like
Powerwolf, yeah, but against Halloween a

417
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:08,839
subheadlining. It's that Anthrat thing.
It's like you've got to be bigger in

418
00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:14,000
that circle than hell to go on
and the only one really blind Garding and

419
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:15,440
Similian kind of that sub headliners a
lot. The only one really has been

420
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:21,240
Saboton and it's surpassing that. You're
looking too power Wolf really and then even

421
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if do it, if Saboton could, could you get could you see baby

422
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,079
Mittal taking it? Yeah? Hut
On something like really out there as a

423
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,880
left field pick. It'll be a
real risk, wouldn't it. So many

424
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,400
people would be really upset about it, like it would. But I'm like

425
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,839
they they've got the power metal kind
of thing going on there. There is

426
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,160
I know a lot of male friends
do like them. There be people in

427
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,759
your line, but I think baby
Metal are a realistic shout as a Bloodstock

428
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,000
headliner. Trouble with that is,
I think you need to balance it out

429
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:52,960
with something kind of proper heavy on
the other end. And there's not that

430
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:57,640
many of a comparable size of because
it's like Emperor used to headline Bloodstock and

431
00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:02,200
now the subheadline and Cradle of Filth
could headlines. So there's not really like

432
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,440
a how many really extreme bands.
Could you have headline on the same weekend

433
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,759
there's baby Metal to really balance it
out. Yeah, you need to wait

434
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:15,400
till Behemoth will back around again or
if Demon Demon has ever decides to take

435
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,039
him more all on the road again, which he doesn't seem to be interested

436
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:22,279
in doing. Yeah, I think
I still think their pull of potential headliners

437
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,359
is bigger than than downloads. But
I think we're in a bit of a

438
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:26,759
transitional period where he might have w
a few years as though some of those

439
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,319
bands like a Power Warlf, Malevolence
even Whoever to kind of get a few

440
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,319
runs up up the ladder and get
to the place where bands like a modern

441
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:37,920
Mars Sabaton whoever were about, you
know, five years ago. And like

442
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,920
I said, I don't think there
are a few returns that I think are

443
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,000
going to be big, like Trivium's
return, machine Heads return, seeing as

444
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,440
they did their back on the festival
stage and they did a secret set.

445
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,119
I think machine Head headlining Bloodstock for
the first time in however many you know,

446
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,920
over a decade would be quite an
event for people. But yeah,

447
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:57,319
we'll see how that goes. Patreon
supporters, the latest thing we had it

448
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,240
from last week is our album a
pack where myself Samon Elliott, we spoke

449
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:04,319
about I thought this was a really
good album club episode, Like they're all

450
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:08,039
good, obviously we make them,
but I thought this one, all four

451
00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:12,680
were really really good chats, like
we're really enthusiastic and interested with you know,

452
00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:18,279
the stories and the discussion points around
all four of the albums the question

453
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:21,200
here, which were of course Slayer
Season in the Abyss, My Bloody Vantine's

454
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,880
Loveless Cancer about searching for Zero,
where I think we kind of almost did

455
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,799
like the you know, the comprehensive
like, you know, it's far enough

456
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:27,680
the view mirror, now, let's
put the stamp on what did this album

457
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,759
do? And then Blood Plantation starts
ball as well. I think HM had

458
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:36,680
its own story to tell that you
could really dive into again, like going

459
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,200
into that My Blood Vantine record,
which is the kind of like a new

460
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:44,759
experism in into like the madness of
how that album tore apart the band,

461
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,400
the label. It's a crazy story, and then the genius that comes out

462
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,319
of it on the other side.
And then also just talking about the best

463
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:56,160
trash Matter album ever, isn't it. I Mean, I can't disagree I

464
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,480
mean, I mean, I have
to disagree, but I mean I can't

465
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:04,759
dissuade any ounce of enthusiasm for the
it's the best Slayer album, Slayer are

466
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:07,839
the best fresh band. Yeah,
well I think it was. It was

467
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,440
cool to you know, really give
that its props because it is an album

468
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,119
that is such a classic, but
also it's kind of overshadowed by, you

469
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:18,400
know, the big one in the
Slayer catalog. It was really nice to,

470
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,119
like, for forty minutes or something, just go like season the abyss,

471
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,680
Holy fucking shit, look how much
amazing shit is on this record,

472
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,680
Peels. I think it was also
cool because all four of the choices kind

473
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,119
of blurred the lines in their each
category. So it's like the big metal

474
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,640
thing that spearheaded it. It wasn't
like a black album thing. It was

475
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,880
a sort of under not even underappreciate
it, but like the silver metal Slayer

476
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,880
album and then the big rock record
was so it wasn't like it was any

477
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,000
one of us could just throw to
someone else. It was all felt very

478
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,640
like well balanced across the four album
clubs. Yeah, and then as said,

479
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,240
what we have just recorded alongside this, this hype Blast, which is

480
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:00,400
out on the Patreon now as you
were hearing this going up today as well

481
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,680
is the first chunk of the eight
zed of Awful, something that many of

482
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,359
you have been asking for us to
bring back. It's been a few years

483
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:09,359
since it's been around. We weren't
able to do well, you know,

484
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:13,480
a couple of years ago whatever,
but we've got to it here. I

485
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,599
have, of course already done this
thing, so I essentially shared the bickering

486
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:22,640
that unfolded between Elliott, Sam and
Mark who have all done lists. And

487
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,000
as said, this is the first
part. This was the first half a

488
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:30,680
to M essentially and it is just
under four hours long. We are going

489
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,079
to be coming with you to be
very soon with the the second half of

490
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:39,759
that. But god, there were
some some controversial picks also, some like

491
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:44,720
completely blind signed to me, Why
am I having to google this and listen

492
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,759
to what this is? Picks on
this list, which I think is a

493
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:55,640
great mix. Yeah, coming in
as hot as it gets set, the

494
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,680
tone really didn't it And like any
hours was, I was like, oh,

495
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,440
we didn't get anything quite that school
we got. We came close,

496
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:07,440
but yeah, that was a real
tone set. Yeah, and and some

497
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:09,920
trends that just needed a kicking.
Oh me, I found a lot of

498
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,920
mine were just things I've just been
like, I've sat on this and I

499
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,559
just want to just really lay in
just how much some of this stuff pisses

500
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:22,920
me off. Yeah, al Amon, were very relevant. Mark I will

501
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,759
say this, Mark I Shit you
not has picked a song from a nineteen

502
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,359
nineties animated TV show as one of
his longestanding bugbears. I'm going to let

503
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:37,759
you discover in the episode what that
is. But truly truly took me off

504
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:39,680
guard. It's so funny because we
always like, oh, you know,

505
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:43,599
it's nice to be positive on the
show. It's fun to just not slag

506
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,160
things off for a lot. At
the end of the four hours, as

507
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,359
tired as I was, it was
like, oh, I can't end this

508
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,480
now, I've got eight more things
about We are a more possy show these

509
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,519
days, we do, you know, we primarily platform albums that we actually

510
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:59,519
want to talk about. But there
is a special moment like this where again

511
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,240
to the to the people who pay
for it, we will, you know,

512
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:05,880
lay the hammer down where it is
so deserved. And as said,

513
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,400
the second half of that is going
to be coming to you very very soon

514
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:10,159
as well, say thank you very
much for supporting. It's at patron dot

515
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:14,840
com. Slash that's not matl that's
what keeps the show alive. Releases for

516
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,599
this first week of August, it's
not a very busy week at all.

517
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,119
But I suppose the big one in
kind of the TNM sphere is the fact

518
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:27,719
that Teenage Wrist are back with their
album Still Love. I guess it's not

519
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,400
that long ago The Earth as a
black Hole was released, but that is

520
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,039
one of the more you know,
beloved can alternative rock records of this decade

521
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:36,079
so far, so certainly feels like
a big one that a lot of peoplere

522
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,159
gonna be checking in on the follow
up to that Elsewhere of course, along

523
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,559
with you know what we spoken about
earlier today in the show, Skin dred

524
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,480
A back with a new Album's Smile, which is actually is a while since

525
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:49,000
the last Wison it's the last one
Still Big Kings, Yeah years ago.

526
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,719
Yeah, gosh, that is a
while, so I mean, hopefully it's

527
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,760
a it's a good record to back
up, you know, their arena campaign

528
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,760
and everything elsewhere. Mammoth w V
eight, which is of course a Wolfgang

529
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,360
van Halen's band. They're really seeing
Mammoth two. I've never listened to Wolfgang

530
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,159
van Halen, but you've been supporting
Metallica on this round, doesn't he which

531
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:08,280
is not surprising considering he's Wolfgang van
Halen. But if you want, if

532
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,440
you're going on to any of those, you know his album is out and

533
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,079
then a couple of heavier things thrown
in there. I think on Unique Leader

534
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:19,199
Records, I believe is Humanity's Last
Breath Ashen and the one that I will

535
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,840
be checking out is an Autumn for
Crippled Children Closure, a very kind of

536
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,880
cool post black metal band they will
just named a couple of years ago that

537
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,199
was excellent, so I'll be checking
in on that. And there we have

538
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,920
it. Thank you very much for
listening. We'll be back with a slightly

539
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,880
early Hyperblasts or at least for us
recording it next week because I'm going to

540
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,119
be going after the Bloodstock festival.
Butts, yeah, cheers for listening.

541
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,280
Head overs of the Patron if you
want to hear the asad of Awful and

542
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,559
everything else going on. We'll see
you next week. By
