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Well, happy Monday, everyone,
Welcome to the marcast. Here your CFL

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Week two recap. Happy each and
teenth if you have the day off.

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I know my wife Dorothy is off. Some of the schools like we're still

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in session, others are, but
we are here today, no days off.

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We'll be doing our USFL a week
ten recap tomorrow with Pat Raffino.

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Very excited. I had to talk
to USFL playoffs there with two, two,

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four, and six teams making the
USFL playoffs from the same division even

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but today we're talking CFL. I
actually I have a lot to say today,

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so this will be good because I
actually did my homework this weekend.

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We have Jason Housey here and Evan
Willsmore. Jason, how are you doing?

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Doing great? Read? How are
you? We're good, Evan,

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Evan my West coast you can.
Patriot here and getting up a few minutes

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ago to do this with me.
How are you doing? Yeah, I'm

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not bad. Definitely a bit of
an early start, but I got another

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good slit of games to talk about, so I'm looking forward to it.

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I'm very excited. Here, Jay, Thomas Harry coming in. Hey,

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what's up? So I decided after
However, many weeks in doing this with

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Andy, Pat and everything, I
decided I need to start taking notes for

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the weekend. So actually did I
have notes for all the games? I

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actually haven't supposed to. Just like
flying off the seat here we have all

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that lots to talk about today kind
of overall thoughts, and then we'll go

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kind of game by game here,
Jason, what did you make of this?

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I enjoy seeing the blank here with
these zero score for the Elks.

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What did you make just overall the
weekend? I think that in general it

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was better in terms of the quality
of play from week one, which is

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to be expected. But I think
that in general the quarterbacks played well in

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the exception of a couple of cases. We'll get to Eva wild you make

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of everything? Yeah, I would
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overall play quality increased, but unfortunately
the teams who you know, still had

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struggles in Week one that seemed to
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Ottawa, Edmonton, and Hamilton in
particular Saskatchewan. You know, they

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played a good game against Winnipeg but
didn't end up scoring enough to make a

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count in the end, because what
a pig put up forty five so we'll

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get into more of that later.
But yeah, overall, I thought it

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was a bit of a better slate
than last week. Evan Frozer a second.

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Yeah, I have a lot to
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saw a lot of tweets and there's
a lot to look forward to here,

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Like we just got our apps absolutely
handed to us by Winnipeg. But there's

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like a lot I guess saw balls
he talking about it and Hodge and everywhere

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else like Scatch one, So we'll
talk about that. Hang your heads high

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there. Pretty poor game the Thursday
night one the Ottawa A lot to say

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about without Marshall Ferguson, friend of
me of the show poo Pooling on XFL

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week one and two, and I
said, hey, Marshall, how does

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it feel here? We have some
of these things going on? But overall

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I thought it was fun when I
posted, Hey, you know our previouw

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yesterday. Hey, we're gonna be
talking about this this morning. The couple

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of notes that came up to me
was one the bad refereeing. I had

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a bad officiating. I had a
lot of comments about that. Jason,

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have you noticed continuing bad? Like
play whatever you want to call it here

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going into Week two, not especially
from the referees so far this season,

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not more than normal. I think
that the natural thing about the CFL game

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is that there's going to be a
lot of flags. There's more flags,

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I believe, on average than an
NFL game. So I mean, I'm

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just kind of used to it with
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But maybe there's some specific cases that
people would point to, but none that

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really pop into my mind. And
then it was like we had some refeing

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the passers and things. I just
it was curious that, you know,

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if it's one person, we just
having the three or four people commenting on

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it. I thought it was least
something that has that stood out to you

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as more egregious than others over of
your life. Well me, sorry,

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no, you know, if we're
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the refereeing, um, I think
it's uh, you know, in all

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these leagues, you know, I've
heard complaints, you know, especially you

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know in the XFL and the USFL
because those are newer products. Obviously the

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CFL has been around for longer,
but I haven't noticed anything that stood out

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too much. I mean, you
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get a bad call. It's just
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there were definitely some things in that
BC Edmonton game that you know, you

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could maybe I don't know if the
referee is maybe in that one had the

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best grasp, but they still figured
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thought, you know, it worked
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I wouldn't sit here and complain about
the refs. I mean, given

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just football in general nowadays, like
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refs in any league, like I
was saying earlier, but I don't know,

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this community just seems like, you
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your team lost, so let's try
and find a you know, excuse to

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make it seem a bit better.
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to see people harp on like the
live stats being updated. Now obviously we're

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here today kind of going through the
box score. Am I missing? Is

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this in a real time? It's
not going on there. I've seen Hodge

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complaining about that as well. Jason, are you tracking, like the stats?

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Is it? Is it? This
thing? Am I missing? Where

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it? The problem is? Yeah? So if you were to check during

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the game, there would be no
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sports Net whenever you usually find CFL
stats, So they don't have any live

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tracking on and a lot of the
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they don't have it posted. So
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any professional sports league to have.
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this I don't do a lot of
like lives. You know, I guess

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if I was out watching Evan,
has that affected your life at all?

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I mean, I know I've just
seen a lot of people talk about this

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with like the sports betting and fantasy
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I haven't had too many problems with
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I've been able to check during most
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There was a game last week I
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just kind of froze after halftime and
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the fourth quarter or the end of
the third or something like that. I

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don't quite remember, but I don't
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terrible. I think the greater conversation
we should be having here is, you

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know why the CFL doesn't have it
app yet? With all this stuff in

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it. You know, I keep
having to go on my you know,

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web browser, Safari or whatever,
typing in you know, CFL dot CAA

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and then clicking on the game tracker. It's just a bit more work than

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I'd like to have to put in. You know, with the XFL,

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I could just go over to ESPN
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the USFL, you could just use
the Fox Sports app. So it's a

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bit surprising that the CFL is kind
of lacking in that category. Well,

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and then it just would have thought, you know, and now we're two

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years into the genius sports thing and
all of that. I see it a

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lot of times people make fun of
that, like this is the thing genius

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sports. Yea, certainly something here
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their app. I'm not living in
dying by any of these leagues apps,

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but even the XFL one, like
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games coming up and this is the
touchdowns and you can kind of track along.

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I just think it's helpful. It
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last year the USFL, they weren't
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like live track my stuff, and
it felt like these games were existing in

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the vacuum. We're a little bit
more this year. Yeah, you're getting

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the notifications. Hey there's a touchdown. Okay, third quarters starting. I

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think that's helpful. You're like,
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on, I should go watch it. Oh this game happened. That kind

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of missed that. So, Jason, any other thoughts on that, We'll

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get to the games. I'm not
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that it just it would provide another
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app. I just think that's a
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And I think the CFL in general
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They're really trying to improve that with
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I think that, you know,
the an excusable thing about the stats thing

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is that they had a system before
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the game. Why did they launch
take that down before launching the other one?

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Like, why didn't they just keep
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one was ready to go? So
that's what I can't wrap my head around

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with that. Well, I think
it's interesting, and obviously I think change

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is coming in general for the CFL. I remember, like last year we

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had Danny Austin and a lot of
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Cup didn't come right. And now
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week with the you know, the
TSN twel sixty and I got you know,

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with Dustin over there and Jason Gregor
and kind of longtime friends to the

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show and trying to figure out Like, I'm just curious, like what all

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this becomes now where if you're the
CFL and we're losing we're losing some of

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these like traditional outlets that are covering
us anyway, right, and whether they

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are choosing too or not. I
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laid off or whatnot. Like I'd
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of rides this out where it's already
kind of this niche fringe thing and trying

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to attract you know what I'm saying, Evan, are you are you like

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you're trying to get some of these
people. Now, I'll be curious,

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like who if you do decide to
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Like who is still there this year? That kind of is uh doing

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the daily stuff. Yeah, I
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There's definitely a lot of people in
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it's similar to the league, where
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of things that have been the same
for a long time, and now you're

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starting to see some changes, especially
after the pandemic. I mean, the

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CFL, you know, missed an
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do think that plays a role into
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lack of interest because they're you know, our long time fans that have stayed

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loyal, but I think it's just
harder now to kind of attract you know,

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new people into this market, especially
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It's it's really difficult because, like
you said, it's a niche product,

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and now we have so many leagues
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you know, between the XFL and
the USFL. I think people would rather,

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you know, spend their time with
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to, you know, doing something
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international product. But yeah, no, I definitely agree. There has there

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has been, excuse me, a
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interesting to see. Yeah, like, you know, how is this going

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to go in the future, not
just from all this stuff we talk about,

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you know, on the football side
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media side as well, Jason,
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but yeah, I do agree that
it's it's incredibly hard to attract the younger

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fans in this in this day and
age. And I think that the biggest

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problem is, like I was saying
about the digitalized content, it's really it's

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really important for this today's day and
age for companies and businesses to really reach

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the consumer on the platforms that they're
currently on. I don't think the CFL

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does a very good job of doing
that, so that's definitely something that they

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need to look to improve in the
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know, let's go here. I
guess we'll start at the end and work

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back. This is the game I
saw the least amount of, but I

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certainly caught up on the highlights and
kind of everything else. Sway, Kelly

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making his big debut here, Chad
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We you know, we called I
called on the show was our pregame

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show I said, Believi Mitchell is
going to be duty this year, has

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has played, you know, poorly
in two games. We'll start with Jason

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here. What did you make of
the tie Cats fourteen to thirty two loss.

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Well, I was in intendance at
Bemo Field for this one. Um,

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great seats, but unfortunately for me
as a Tiger Cats fan, Um,

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you know, it was just more
of the same from week one.

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I think that maybe they played in
general better than they did in Week one,

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which is funny because they lost by
more points. But I think that

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a couple of key things are the
key red zone interceptions in the first half.

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Those twok really you know, points
off the board for the Tiger Cats.

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Even if you get three points there, I think it would have been

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a completely different game from that aspect, you know, just really bad interceptions

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from Believi Mitchell. That the play
calling for Hamilton was very predictable. Run

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on first down into the line for
two yards and then you know you're stuck

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in second and long. So I
think there was a lot of those situations.

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So I'm not impressed with the Tiger
Cats offense through two weeks. My

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panic level is probably about to a
five with this team right now, because

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you know, of what we've seen
the first couple of weeks, but we

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have yet to see this team play
at home. They've arguably played the two

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best teams in the league the first
two weeks. So I'm, you know,

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kind of holding back a little bit
of my concern for that reason.

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But at the end of the day, at pretty disappointing starts the season for

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the tiger Cats perspective. Even initial
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know, so from the Hamilton's side, I definitely agree. You know,

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the play calling needed to improve,
Believe I Mitchell I said last week.

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You know, it's going to take
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decide, you know, whether or
not he's just progressing in his career at

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this age, or you know,
whether it's a situational thing and you know,

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maybe he's going to get better after
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the past couple of years. But
to be honest, after last night,

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I'm already starting to draw the conclusion
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just age and it's just not a
great fit. You know. Matt Schiltz

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came in and like the middle of
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kinda and honestly played better I think
than believe I did pretty much the entire

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game. And you know, Matt
someone I know personally, I interviewed him

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about a year ago. Good friend
James Butler played well. He was,

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of course the big free agent addition
for them over from BC, and then

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Duke Williams who came over from Saskatchewan
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of that, I don't know,
there wasn't a lot to write home about

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for Hamilton. Unfortunately, that one
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even it was twenty two to six
and I was kind of sitting there like

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do I even keep watching? And
yeah, to be honest, the rest

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of the game just kind of went
about as I expected. But for Toronto

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it was a great way to start. You know, they're next season after

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the Great Cup, especially with Chad
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three rushing touchdowns in that game and
had he was pretty efficient passing too.

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I mean, what is that two
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so he was impressive. And then
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say the best part. And then
also, um, what's his name?

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Quantz stickers give him a special shout
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back in fan control football, didn't
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was definitely a good story to follow. And he had an interception in that

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game game excuse me. And then
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as I expected. I mean,
Toronto to me was gonna win that game,

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especially given that it was at home. You know, they're raising the

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Great Cup banner everything like that.
It felt like a Toronto win. I

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just again maybe expected Hamilton's to put
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similar to last week. Like,
obviously, you know, Winnipeg is a

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tough opponent. Hamilton's definitely had two
really tough opponents. You're playing both the

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teams that were in the Great Cup
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and you're playing you know, yeah, you're you're doing that, So

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that's that's pretty difficult. Um And
ultimately, yeah, I mean, they

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didn't put up the effort that I
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improve in the games to come,
although right now I'm not so optimistic.

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I guess you'd say, yeah,
Evan with Quantez, wasn't it. I

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was reading it down again, was
trying to talk about fan control football or

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and they were trying to talk about
it on the broadcast. Is that accurate?

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He said? All he said was
a league where the fans called the

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plays, But he did not actually
say fan controlled football. I did pick

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up on that. I was kind
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or fan controlled football or something along
those lines, but it didn't happen.

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So somewhere and Patrick D's is shaking
his fist like that. Uh. It

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is funny though, like the way
they'll go about talking to these players outside

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of you know, when they ever
like they ever talking about the Thompson a

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lot in the USA ballots he played
up north, or he played in the

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different land, or he played in
the different You're like, just say,

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Jason, I was reading on here, how was Hamilton favored coming into this

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match? I think it was around
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in favor of Hamilton, believe it
or not, which was kind of shocking.

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I did actually on my channel took
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game by one point. But you
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time picking this game this week.
I really should have seen that effort for

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the Argos coming out of the gate, Like, um, I really should

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have seen that coming. Um.
So I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't

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take the Argos in this one.
But yeah, the tire Cats were surprising

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favorites going into this game. This
aj Ellett thing where he went viral with

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it, it wasn't like, I
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It wasn't aw or whatever. He
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And then I that was very classic, I thought, putting the Hamilton tie

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Cats thing on did you have you
you guys, Evan, did you track

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any of that? There's that outside
of your preview? I mean I saw

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I saw a bit of it around
on Twitter, you know. I mean

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I know that he's been doing wrestling
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I don't know how long he's been
with the Argos now, but he's been

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there for a decent amount of time. Um, he had a good game.

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I don't know if I mentioned that
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he was someone who definitely carried the
rock and you know, whenever they

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couldn't, whenever they weren't passing it, they were definitely running it. With

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him effectively him and Andrew Harris had
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well. UM, so yeah,
that was that was good to fault.

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know. Yeah exactly like what wrestling
like league he was competing for? How

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any of that works? That that
that is above my pig grade? I

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will say, Uh, Jason,
did you track any that? Because I

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thought that was a pretty good I
want to pull it up, but I

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thought that was a pretty good,
like viral thing for the US or for

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the CFL to have. I didn't
actually see the video of it, but

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I didn't hear that he was.
Um, I believe it was some wrestling

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thing in Toronto, Um, Greek
Town. Don't cancel us here? This

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holy crap. I mean, this
is classic wrestling giving him the Great Cup

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rank here. It is not.
This is gonna be a championship right hand

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by John Sampson. Don't violate championship
memorabilia like that in this rank. Oh,

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Shrick Gibson is out. I mean, that's this classic of there is

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that? Do anything for you,
Jason Is. I'm a wrestling fan.

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I get excited watching that. Yeah, I love that kind of thing.

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Anything to get the logo of the
team or you know, the association with

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the league out there, to more
more eyes, especially for a niche product

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like the CFL. I think that's
uh, that's important. I'm not a

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huge wrestling to hand myself. I
never really grew up watching the WWE,

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but a lot of my friends did, and my brother, um by brother

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was a big fan of that growing
up. In fact, we were actually

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talking about it on the goat train
back last night. Yeah, see this

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is there. I won't play the
audio again, but they obviously they took

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it and they superimposed a tie cats
a logo here on the poor gentleman,

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and so I thought that was funny. I mean, that probably makes you

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cry a little bit there, Jason, but I thought that was funny they

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did that. The other thing with
this Chad living up to I think the

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expectations Evan, I know, you
know, obviously coming off last year and

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like he helped win the Gray Cup, but you know, mccag is in

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there and then him going there was
just it never really felt like they had

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any doubt with Chad and the Brian
Scott's up there and everyone else. But

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Evan, are you just surprised how
good Chad looks coming out of the gate

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here? Uh? No, I
mean there was a lot of hype about

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him in the off season, and
I think he's definitely I think he worked

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a lot behind the scenes last year
even when MBT was starting, So I

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don't think this is a fluke or
anything like that. I will say I

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think it was John Hodge put up
yesterday. He says, you know,

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do you think like Zach or do
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behind. I think it was Zach
Claros and someone else is like the third

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best quarterback in the CFL. And
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of the instability at the position across
the league right now, because there's been

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a lot of turnover, a lot
of guys are getting older, there's a

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lot that needs to be proven.
Uh yeah, there it is, you

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know, I said, yeah,
because its like again, just because of

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the uncertainty, you know, I
think that like, he definitely has the

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highest ceiling. It is a bit
of a knee jerk reaction to call him

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the third best quarterback in the CFL
after one good game where he had three

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rushing touchdowns. But you know,
I'm gonna stand by my word and see

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how that goes through the rest of
the season. I really do hope that,

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you know, this is Chad's year
and that maybe Toronto gets back to

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the Great Cup with him having started
the full season as opposed to just playing

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the one half of that game or
whatever it was. I mean, I

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don't really think this is that I
mean, I know John is known to

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be a little hyperbolic sometimes, but
I don't think that this is that crazy.

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I think, you know, besides
Claros, I wouldn't put Vernon in

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that category right now. Certainly would
put corn Dog. I wouldn't put our

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Buckle. I wouldn't put Cody.
Really, Trevor Harris, I mean,

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Jason, do you think that's that
outlandish that Chad's a top three quarterback right

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now? I think that's a good
thing. I mean, getting you guy

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in there to do that. Boy
do you make of this? Well,

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I can't really disagree based on what
we saw in Week one. Obviously,

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tire Cats didn't have any tape on
him. You know that always plays a

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little bit of a factor. But
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athleticism that he has brings to the
table. I think that was really impressive,

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and honestly, like you said,
given the situations around the league,

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nobody's really shown to have other than
Clariss and maybe like Trevor Harris, to

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have that kind of consistent of a
floor. I think that. I'm very

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interested to see how Kelly does in
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don't think it's Atlantish to have him
in the top three quarterbacks just based on

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that Week one performance. We had
a thing here. Oh, Evan was

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in our group chat with saying,
once you over under own the tie Cats

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to win this year, Evans saying, seven, Evan, standby value.

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What are you making the tie Cats
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I mean, I definitely I said
this last week. I think they're

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in a bit of a rebuilding process. I wouldn't be surprised after this year

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if there was some turnover on the
coaching staff. You know, I think

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they'll keep some of the you know, core pieces around still. I know

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they have a couple of guys that
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runs. But I don't know,
like I'm looking at this thing and I'm

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just I'm not seeing a team that
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you know, maybe I'm proven wrong. I would hope so. But right

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now, there's just a lot you
know that seems very not I don't want

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to say scripted, but it's like, you know, there's just certain teams

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where you look at them and you're
like, if this person is you know,

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here by the end of the season, or if they're not doing this

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by this certain point, the outlook
doesn't look great. And you know,

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Hamilton, I will say, had
a very impressive run. I mean they

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made two great Cups technically back to
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there was no twenty twenty season.
Unfortunately, they weren't able to capitalize on

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that, and that was definitely a
bit sad, especially because you know,

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I used to cover the Tiger Cats
for a bit and it was fun to

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see them go all the way.
But you know, I think right now,

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especially again on the coaching side,
I mean, you know, we

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talk about the players a lot here, but I think there's a lot within

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that organization at the higher levels,
you know, that could be potentially looked

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at in a different way. At
some point and that's not trying to discredit

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anybody. I think, you know, coach Steinauer has done a good job

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there, you know, right over
the course of a couple of years.

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But it just kind of gets to
a point where you know you're being figured

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out, I think is what I'm
ultimately trying to get out here. That's

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my you know sort of lead is
like they've been you know, they've had

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their run, but now it's like, you know, you switched quarterbacks.

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There's a lot of things that are
different for them already in this short period

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of time. And again, I
just don't see this as a great year

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for them, unfortunately, Jason,
last thing on this and I haven't pulled

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up here with obviously bow missing,
you're leaving the game, Schiltz coming into

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this lower body or is this cause
for concern? Are we just getting him

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out of there for the week?
Like what do you I mean, is

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you know, with Bobie and injury
prone and everything. Well, I think

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it's worth noting that they have a
buy after this next week. So I

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think that maybe they start Schiltz this
week and then they because they have a

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short week, they play on Friday
at home against Montreal, so maybe they

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you know, sit Bo for that
one, led him to, you know,

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sit on the bench for a little
bit, um for for a couple

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of weeks, and then give them
back for week five. I think they

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play Oddwall that week. So I
think that's that's an option for them,

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And potentially what we could see,
I think Schiltz, I mean from what

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we saw, I mean, given
that it was garbage time, you've got

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to take it with a grain of
salt. But I think that um he

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played better than Bo win this one. So I think that, you know,

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having that familiarity with the offense,
you have a little bit of comfortability

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with Scholtz. But at the end
of the day, I think if Bo

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was missing the whole season or or
is easy out for a significant amount of

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time, he obviously has a history
with injuries, So I think that's concerning

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um, you know, going forward
for the Tiger Cats. But I will

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say, in terms of reprojecting like
over under win or loss record for this

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team going forward, I still think
they're gonna win like eight games this year.

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Look back last year, oh and
four to start the season. Traditionally,

410
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.079
this team is a slow starter.
Other than the twenty nineteen season,

411
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.480
where they went fifteen and three,
so I'm not too concerned. I think

412
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:32.000
they'll probably you know, figure it
out, get a three or four game

413
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:33.759
winning streak somewhere in there. But
at the end of the day, it's

414
00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.200
disappointed to have another slow start for
this team, and I do agree that

415
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.240
there could be some changes on the
coaching staff. I think that Orlando Steinauer

416
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:45.240
has kind of lived off the success
of June Jones, who was the previous

417
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:49.839
head coach, an offensive guru who
you know, turned Brandon Banks into a

418
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:55.079
receiver into a great receiver. That
is, you know, other players and

419
00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:59.200
you know, transition them into this
great, powerful offense. And you've seen

420
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:03.079
a decline every every year in terms
of their offensive productions. So I think

421
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.960
that's super concerning considering that, you
know, just the that Steinauer is a

422
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.759
defensive head coach that doesn't really bring
too much to the table in terms of

423
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.079
offense. I think that Tommy Condell
has been there for a long time,

424
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.839
so I mean, maybe it's getting
a little bit stale. So I do

425
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:21.599
agree with Evan that there could be
some changes coming by the end of the

426
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:26.039
year if this continues. Yeah,
bo both making five hundred thousand, I

427
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.359
mean, you know, that's the
big biggest thing on that big thing on

428
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.319
that yeah, coming up here.
All right, So now we have this

429
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.440
was my you know, my my
crowning life. I have my BC Lions

430
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:41.079
had on here. Not not quite
as electrifying as the Nathan Work like five

431
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.519
touchdown whatever the heck it was game
last year that was like the greatest home

432
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:47.519
you know that we had. We
had one republic and kind of all that.

433
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.200
I didn't laugh at the game,
Evan. And then I have a

434
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.839
couple of jokes here to make.
Yeah, I mean, this game well

435
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.839
unfortunately, I mean I expect the
BC to win, and they did.

436
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.000
But again, I'm probably gonna focus
more on the team who struggled here,

437
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.079
and that was Edmonton, you know, being shut out for I think it

438
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.680
was the first time in like fifty
years or something close to fifty years,

439
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:15.079
since the seventies anyway, and you
know, ultimately this is just not acceptable

440
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.160
by any means. And I know, you know, again, I'll get

441
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:19.759
the BC in a minute, but
I think we need to talk about sort

442
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:25.200
of the urgency here for Edmonton.
And I said last week, I said,

443
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.519
this is a team, you know, the leash really isn't that long.

444
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.160
You know, for a lot of
players and coaches here because of their

445
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:36.119
struggles in previous seasons and so far, it almost just looks like they're regressing

446
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.119
even more. I mean, scoring
zero points in a game. Even if

447
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.680
BC you know, turns out to
be a ten plus win team this year,

448
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.119
which I think they will be,
you know, that's just quite frankly

449
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.720
unacceptable. I mean, ninety one
passing yards one turnover for Cornelius. I

450
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:53.240
mean you have to ask that question
of when does you know, someone like

451
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.359
a Trey Ford come in or Kyle
Loxley you did complete a pass in this

452
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.920
game, When does one of those
guys you know, get a starting up

453
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.839
oportunity. I know Chris Jones has
talked that Nledgium about how Cornelius has developed,

454
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.519
and you know, he's been with
Cornelius now for like three seasons.

455
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.680
But it gets to a point where
it's like, man like, I mean,

456
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:12.720
come out, like if it's not
gonna work, it's not gonna work,

457
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.839
you know. And again, I
don't want to sit here in week

458
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.599
two saying that Taylor Cornelius can't do
anything for this team because there's still sixteen

459
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:26.200
games left. But so far,
I mean, he's had one long touchdown

460
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.240
pass to Gina Lewis, and outside
of that, I mean, there's not

461
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.960
really much to work with there.
He's a good scrambler, you know,

462
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.960
he can run when he's needed,
but like, that's not gonna win you

463
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.000
the game, you know ultimately.
And I get that that's a great part

464
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.160
of his game, you know,
his build, his mobility, but I

465
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.839
don't know, I'm really not sold
on that at all. And then yeah,

466
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:52.000
for BC, you know, I
thought they had a decent game.

467
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:55.880
You know, could they have done
a bit better. Maybe there was a

468
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.759
lot of weird sort of turnovers that
happened early on where it was like the

469
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.319
all just kind of seemed to be
flying around between the teams and there was

470
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.839
a bunch of flags that you know, overturned those turnovers. I think one

471
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.920
of them ended up counting. But
yeah, Vernon had three hundred passing yards,

472
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.039
which I thought was pretty good.
Did have a turnover, but I

473
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.759
won't fault him for that. I
mean he completed you know, twenty five

474
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.519
out of thirty five minutes passes,
So I call it a good day for

475
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.359
him. To Quan Mizzle the running
back, I think that's how he pronounced

476
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:30.960
his name. Definitely was impressive at
least that's what I gathered from this game,

477
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:36.839
especially because he had such big holes
to fill with James Butler leaving big

478
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:41.680
shoes, I should say, not
big holes anyway, Uh, yeah,

479
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.160
he was impressive at least to me. And then just going down the list,

480
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.920
Justin McInnis had a really good game. Was good to see that after

481
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:55.599
he had the big catch in Week
one against Calgary Dominic rhymes again another impressive.

482
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:57.200
I mean, just look at this
whole receiving core down here, and

483
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.440
how sort of balanced this. You
know, every one's got four or five

484
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:04.279
catches. It speaks to Vernon's ability
to really spread the ball around. And

485
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.960
I talked about that last week.
I said, they have so many good

486
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.759
players in that receiving corps, but
at the end of the season, there

487
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.119
might not be that much difference between
you know, their top receiver and like

488
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:19.240
their fourth leading receiver. Just saying
but then, yeah, I'd say for

489
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.119
BC again, could they have you
know, done a bit better? I

490
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:26.079
mean, obviously they shut out the
opponent, which is great. I mean,

491
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.920
I maybe you could have scored a
bit more than twenty two in that

492
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.279
situation, But ultimately a good game
for them. They're on the right track.

493
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.480
Edmonton unfortunately not so much. Yeah, I want to I'm gonna.

494
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.119
I didn't want to hit a baker
yesterday because of Father's Day. But I

495
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:42.799
want to get I want to get
Justin McGinnis on the podcast here. I

496
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:47.720
think that's our new kind of fresh
with the missing Lucky and missing Keyan and

497
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.240
everything else. I want to get
get kind of in his head here,

498
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.720
because he's really come on strong.
Jason, what what did you make of

499
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.119
this? I just kind of slather
of the Elks. So I did an

500
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.319
initial reactions video on my channel that
got a lot of traction, Um,

501
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.240
you know, saying how the Elks
are off to a disastrous start, And

502
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.079
it really has been a disastrous start
for the Elk because I think that a

503
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.880
lot of things are just inexcusable.
With how much talent I think is around

504
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.079
this ross, or how much talent
they brought in the past couple of off

505
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.279
seasons. I think that, um, you look at how Taylor Cornelius has

506
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.000
played, I think that, um, it's really inexcusable because you have guys

507
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.960
around him that have been productive receivers
at other spots in the CFL. So

508
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.839
what's the common denominator. It's the
quarterback position. So I think that sometimes,

509
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.240
you know, or maybe they're just
better off like going forward, you

510
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.920
know, going with Tray Forward,
running some kind of like run heavy option

511
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.680
offense, you know, something like
that, just to get the ball moving.

512
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.799
Because tray Forward, we saw him
played a bit last year. I

513
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.920
saw him play, start, started
his first game in Hamilton, and I

514
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.000
saw him, you know, really
make a difference with his legs. I

515
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.559
think that really puts a lot of
pressure on defense and could add another element

516
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.759
that we're currently not seeing because yeah, we say that you know, Taylor

517
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:02.440
cur Relius does have some of that
scrambling ability, but if you're gonna just

518
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.359
say that's his biggest strength, that's
straight forward's biggest strength, and that's even

519
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.640
a bigger strength for him. So
I think that, you know, going

520
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:13.400
forward, that might be the play
that they do, or go with kay

521
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:17.000
Loxley. But something has to change
with its Edmonton Elks offense because zero points

522
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:20.119
in a CFL game. I forget
who said it. I think it was

523
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.440
Kerrie Joseph who said this about fifteen
years ago. He's like, we're getting

524
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.599
shut out in a CFL game.
That's an unacceptable So I think that at

525
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.559
the end of the day, just
so disappointing for Edmonton. But I do

526
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.079
believe Chris Jones deserves a lot of
heat as well. Going into a season

527
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.240
with a field goal kicker that can
attempt a fifty fifty one yard field goal,

528
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.400
that is unacceptable. They had a
couple of chances to take a lead

529
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.559
early in this game, could have
changed the entire tide of the game.

530
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.880
Even with the field goal. They
passed up fifty yard forty nine yard field

531
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.680
goal attempts for a punt, the
punt goes out of bounds and then they

532
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.839
basically get no net yards on the
punt. So I think that, you

533
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:58.359
know, at the end of the
day, just a really disappointing performance all

534
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:02.079
around for the Elks. Anytime you
score zero points is just unacceptable. So

535
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:06.799
that's what I think about them.
They just really need to do some soul

536
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.599
searching and figured this out really quickly
because jobs are going to start being on

537
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.279
the line here and then for BC, I think that just a matter of

538
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:19.799
scoring more touchdowns. I think that
defensively, they've looked excellent obviously against Edmonton

539
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.519
this game. You know, take
that with a grain assault. But you

540
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.799
look back last week only allowing fifteen
points to Calgary, So fifteen points allowed

541
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.799
in two games. Hard to do
better than that. And then I think,

542
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.559
you know, just like I said, finishing drives, scoring touchdowns,

543
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:36.720
it's only the only complaint I have
Offensively, I thought they moved the ball

544
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.960
very well. Yeah, it was
so a couple of things that I have

545
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.880
this tweet saying I thought this was
good buy Brock. Sorry Elex fans,

546
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.640
Cornelis ain't bad guy. Twenty six
games enough of a sample size to figure

547
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:52.039
it out. I agree with that. And I know that we have Darryl.

548
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:53.599
I think that you used to ride
for CFL news stub and he's still

549
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.440
he's an ELX fan, and he's
always been going on about, oh,

550
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.960
you know, it's Cornelius all that
stuff. It was to me there was

551
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.279
the quote at the end of the
game, and I was trying to find

552
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.000
the tweet I had where it was
Chris Jones saying, hey, you know

553
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:07.519
we have our quarterback. You know
we're set with that. I said,

554
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.000
I don't know if you have your
coach at this point, like, if

555
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:15.199
you're that invested in and I,
you know, I was. I was

556
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.079
filming the children's dancer recital and I
had my phone on, like my try

557
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.400
you know, I'm watching the game
and silent the whole, like the second

558
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:22.800
half. I watch the first half, watching the game muted the second half.

559
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:27.119
I'm like, I'm seeing Kai Locksley
warm up on the sidelines. I'm

560
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:28.760
like, why the hell are that. I'm like, oh, they're clearly

561
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:30.679
they're going to put in you know, Kay here at the end of the

562
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.679
game and get Cornelis out of here
like he finished the game. I mean,

563
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:37.119
Cornelis finished the game. I thought
that was weird. And then the

564
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.920
BC thing. I when Vernon finally
had the touchdown pass, I saw kind

565
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.400
of a look of relief because I
do think that Vernon was afraid that they

566
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:45.599
were going to go, you know, TD list the entire game, like

567
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:50.679
you guys said, kind of completing
drives but did not score any points like

568
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.000
you guys said. In the CFL
game, I was trying to explain to

569
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.559
Dorothy how challenging that is with the
rouge and kicking, like that's very,

570
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.760
very hard to get. I think
Dave Naylor said it was nineteen seventy was

571
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.800
last time that the Elks had been
shut out Evan. In terms of Vernon,

572
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.559
they called it good Vernon kind of
at the at the CFL on the

573
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.199
TSM panel at halftime. Was it
good Vernon? They're bad Vernon this week?

574
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.400
Oh, it was definitely good.
I mean again, was it perfect?

575
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.480
No? Could he be better?
Yes? But ultimately, like you

576
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.119
know, the only thing that I
would really fault him for is, yeah,

577
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:24.920
not finding the end zone that much, But that doesn't all go on

578
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:29.079
his shoulders. I mean, you
know, as long as they can keep

579
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:30.920
scoring and they can just kind of
keep at the steady pace, I mean,

580
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.360
they're gonna be just fine. They're
gonna be, you know, right

581
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.960
behind Winnipeg there in the West,
and you know they're not going to have

582
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:42.880
a problem. So the other question
I had was a Ganey being out too.

583
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.280
Looks like he's gonna be out.
That's gonna be a big loss for

584
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.480
Edmunton as well. At Jason any
other thoughts, It's just I don't know

585
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.119
what the Elks do at this point. I think last year it was like

586
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:53.519
the struggles at home and that was
kind of a joke, and now it

587
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:57.840
feels like it's struggles no matter where
they are. I mean, what would

588
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:01.880
you like to see them do.
Honestly, I think I would go with

589
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:05.880
the quarterback switch. I think,
like you said, twenty six games is

590
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:07.840
enough of a sample size, and
I think the big thing is we haven't

591
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:13.480
seen any progression from Taylor Cornelius at
all. So I think if he showed

592
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.119
some signs of getting better, stringing, some you know, good stretches of

593
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:20.960
play together, I think you could
justify having the position that Chris Jones has

594
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.280
and saying that he's our starter going
forward. But at the end of the

595
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:27.920
day, we haven't seen any kind
of consistency from him or any kind of

596
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.800
progression from him. So I think
I would look for the quarterback position because,

597
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.039
like I said, you're wasting the
talent of all these great receivers around

598
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.320
you. I think Dylan Mitchell has
negative five yards in two games. That's

599
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:43.039
that's pretty rough because he was expected
to be a breakout star in the CFL

600
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.480
this season. I had him on
my top fifty players list, So you

601
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.239
know, at the end of the
day, I think when it's hurting the

602
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:53.320
players around you, and you really
have seen the players around him like succeeded

603
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.679
other spots in the CFL, it
really shows you that the problem is the

604
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.400
quarterback position, and also the offensive
line hasn't looked ideal either. They're really

605
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:06.599
not confident in those short yarded situations. Probably the worst team in the league

606
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:08.840
as we saw in Week one against
the Scatch one, So that's a concern

607
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.559
for them going forward. They kind
of have a little bit of a flawed

608
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:16.320
team building philosophy in my opinion,
whereas they built from the outside the perimeter

609
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:22.239
and not really built in the trenches. So I think, you know,

610
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.360
the Elks have a lot of soul
searching to do, and you know,

611
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:27.719
they just kind of have to go
back to the drawing board. I think,

612
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.320
yeah, like you said, I
thought Mizzelle was good running back,

613
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.280
kind of filling in for BC.
I know that there was obviously the concern

614
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.280
there with Butler going the other thing. I thought it seemed to me,

615
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.880
at least that Vernon was moving a
lot more in the second half. It

616
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.280
seemed like in the first half he's
trying to be a little bit too much

617
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.880
of a pocket passer. And I
don't know if that if they just got

618
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:47.880
more pressure on him in the second, but it felt like where he's scrambling

619
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.159
more, he's a little bit better
in that way, kind of trying to

620
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.239
make up things and kind of be
a little bit of an orchestrator on the

621
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.079
field and that way. Yeah,
I just have written here a corn dog

622
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.400
equals duty. I'm just looking in
through my notes. And then it felt

623
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.199
like they were finally trying to get
rhymes going, that they had a couple

624
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.440
of drop passes and he was missing
that. Evan, any other thoughts on

625
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:07.880
the Receiving Corps. I know you
were talking about them kind of getting a

626
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:13.079
balanced workload there and a couple of
the big stars being outright now for BC,

627
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.280
Yeah, I mean the Receiving Corps. You know, I talked about

628
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.880
him enough last week. I mean
they you know, they're doing a great

629
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.760
job. Someone's always going to step
up. And even if you know they

630
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.480
don't have the one guy that necessarily
explodes onto the scene, again, it's

631
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.119
always going to be pretty even you
saw how many guys on that list that

632
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:31.639
had like three, four or five
catches. It's very very diverse, but

633
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:35.880
very balanced at the same time.
And I will say too, just talking

634
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.320
about Vernon Adams again for a second, I think BC and someone said this

635
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:45.280
in our chat to At some point
BC was extremely smart forgetting Vernon Adams last

636
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:49.119
year before Nathan Rourke left. Well, I mean obviously Nathan Rourke was injured

637
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.480
and that prompted them to bring Va
in. But now you look at again

638
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.679
the sort of state of the quarterback
in the CFL. Yeah, you know,

639
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.559
it's it looks like a steal,
you know, to get a guy

640
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:04.360
like Va who again maybe isn't exactly
in his prime. Like you could argue

641
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:06.360
that, you know, Va,
I guess I think it might have been

642
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.960
like twenty nineteen in Montreal, was
you know, at his peak, but

643
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:12.719
even then, like he's still you
know, one of the top guys.

644
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.360
I mean, you could put him, to be honest, I would feel

645
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.360
comfortable at this point maybe putting him
right behind Zach Claros. You know,

646
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:22.039
we were talking about this like top
three guys earlier. You could maybe put

647
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.239
Trevor Harrison there right now, especially
after his game against Winnipeg, which we'll

648
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:29.440
get into in a minute, you
know, and then Chad Kelly obviously like

649
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:30.880
we talked about. But I don't
know, like at this point, like

650
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:36.079
I think if Vernon can take this
team to the playoffs and they can have

651
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:40.199
you know, another run and at
least challenge Winnipeg again, I'd say that's

652
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.280
a win. I mean at that
point, like I know, Rourke was

653
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.800
extremely flashy, and I was very
fortunate to see him play against the Alex

654
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:51.760
last year, where he had I
mean just in a phenomenal game, best

655
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.119
game I've ever seen in person by
any quarterback I think at any level,

656
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:59.440
even though they had Rourke. You
know, Vernon I think can carry the

657
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:01.400
same type of Wait, maybe that's
a bold statement. Again, I understand

658
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.440
how good Nathan Rourke was. I
know his season was cut short. I

659
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.559
get it, trust me. But
I really think that, you know,

660
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.920
Vernon, you know, like there's
nothing like with his receivers, Like I

661
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.320
mean, who's stopping that. You
know, at this point, they're gonna

662
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.760
have to face a couple you know, difficult teams. I'm sure once they

663
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:22.760
get to like the Torontos and the
Winnipegs, like I said, maybe even

664
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:24.880
like Montreal, you know, it
could become a bit more difficult. But

665
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:30.159
right now, I think Vernon is
on pace for a great season and I

666
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.159
think he could really return to that
form that he was in, you know,

667
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:36.440
maybe three or four years ago.
Keep in mind that, you know,

668
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.920
Lions also have Dan Evans here,
you know, where you're talking about

669
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.159
kind of having the quarterback Richards and
then where our backup is probably better than

670
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.679
I would say, certainly Cornelius and
certainly whatever. At this point, Derek

671
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:50.320
Taylor had tweeted out, and I
think Derek said to come on the show

672
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.199
this week, like who can play
you know, who can play a quarterback

673
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.079
for the Elks right now? And
I said, like, yeah, I'd

674
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:57.880
call it like DeAndre Johnson or someone
in the USFL like, hey, you

675
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.440
dismissed the playoffs, like let's get
you up yere and kind of do that

676
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.760
half joking, but you know,
I mean they could kind of figure that

677
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.559
out. Last couple of notes from
me, we had the big LLL Cool

678
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:12.360
Jay concert. I thought this wasn't
funny tweet by Jacques. I don't if

679
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.119
you guys followed him on Twitter,
said it's a real statement. See if

680
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.559
I'm fan demographics said, la cool
Jay gone through this phrase for appealing to

681
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:21.480
younger crowd. I thought that was
good, but you know, it looked

682
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:27.559
good. I saw. I appreciated
the like the sweet shots of them are

683
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.119
hanging out with LLL like in there, you know whatever in the owner's suite

684
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.719
or whatever that was. I thought
that was cool. And then I especially

685
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:37.159
I saw the tweet said that I
know that Edmonton did the Christian Salisbury kind

686
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.519
of tribute last week, and I
thought that was nice that BC kind of

687
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:43.960
had that going at the beginning of
the game as well. For him.

688
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.800
Obviously, you passed away too soon, and with the Edmonton we've tracked him

689
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.559
through all the other stuff. Jason, any other thoughts, well, kind

690
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.039
of double time through these last couple
of games here we're going along. But

691
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.960
this has been good. Yeah,
I think just h I agree with you

692
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.920
you guys said about Burning. I
think he has a chance to really rejuvenate

693
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.239
his career here, and you're starting
to see the signs of it. He

694
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:05.239
played really well at the end of
last season, so I'm glad he's in

695
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.159
a situation that's very conducive to the
way he plays. And you know,

696
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.320
they may not be as explosive on
offense as they were last year, but

697
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.639
I think this defense could be even
better than they were last year, as

698
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.559
we've seen the first couple of weeks. So I think that, you know,

699
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.559
we're gonna have to see how they
played this Thursday against Winnipeg. That's

700
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.960
gonna be a big test for them. But I'm excited about the BC Lions,

701
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.840
you know, going forward. So
we had the game here. This

702
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.039
was the game I saw the least
of. Like I said, Winnipeg really

703
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:37.079
just kind of smacking around the Saskatchewan
at home. I think they said that.

704
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.239
You know, Winnipeg hasn't lost a
game in Saskatchewan since twenty nineteen or

705
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.760
whatever. Evan, I know you
didn't see much of this game either.

706
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.639
This was the late Saturday game,
but like I say, at the top

707
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.679
of the show, there was a
lot of like apologizing for Saskatchewan looking good

708
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:53.800
even in losing twenty seven to forty
five. To me, it never felt

709
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.559
that incredibly close. Do you have
any thoughts and we'll toss to Jason.

710
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.559
I mean, yeah, like you
said, Reid, I didn't get a

711
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.159
chance to watch much of this game, if any. I went back and

712
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.719
I looked at the highlights. You
know, Saskatchewan, I mean they had

713
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:12.400
they had a great day passing the
ball. I mean we can start with

714
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.840
that. I know we already talked
a ton about BC and they're receiving corps,

715
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.119
but like you know, the rough
Riders had two guys Sean Bain Junior

716
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.320
and Kevin Jones went over one hundred
yards. And then I heard a lot

717
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.519
of praise about Samuel Mliss too.
There was a lot of people like,

718
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:29.519
you know, welcome to the CFL
type of thing, so that was good

719
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:31.719
to see. And then on the
defensive side, I know, again we

720
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.079
haven't talked much defense yet, and
I fought myself for that. But like

721
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.920
Larry Dean had a great game and
that's obviously a familiar name to me and

722
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.400
many others. Roland Milliken, who
I talked about on the show last week,

723
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.920
also had a pretty good game,
I thought, with three tackles for

724
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:50.719
loss. And then for Winnipeg,
I mean, yeah, like you know,

725
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.679
it was just a I mean,
they've scored I think over because they

726
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:58.599
had forty two last week against Hamilton's. So they haven't even had a game

727
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.599
yet this season where they've scored below
forty points, which is stagger I mean,

728
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:06.119
that's that's just unbelievable to me.
I mean, if you, I

729
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.840
mean you want to talk about a
strong way to start a season, that's

730
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:13.159
how you do it. I mean, this is like just the polar opposite

731
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.519
of Edmonton, and I hate to
you know rain on the Elks parade there

732
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.960
if there is any parade. But
you know, I just feel like,

733
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.000
I mean, there's it's such a
contrast going from that game to this one

734
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:27.679
where you're looking at such a you
know, diverse group of players, and

735
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.639
you know, there's so many what's
the word I'm looking for. There's just

736
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.920
so many, you know, different
outlets and options and whatever. I mean

737
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.360
if you look here, I mean
Zach Collarro's you know, is posting like

738
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:42.199
a similar stat line, you know, close to three hundred yards every game,

739
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.119
two touchdowns. He's just kind of
automatic with that at this point.

740
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:50.559
And then receiving wise head Dalton shown
you know who obviously came on and seen

741
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.320
last year, you know, eight
catches, one hundred and forty five yards.

742
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.199
I mean, your day doesn't get
better than that. You tack on

743
00:44:54.239 --> 00:45:00.519
a touchdown too, extremely impressive stuff
from him. And then on defense,

744
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.039
uh, you know they had I
mean a couple of guys i'd say,

745
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.800
you know, stood out Celestin Habba, who's a rookie um I want to

746
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.920
say from Texas A and m Commerce
he had a nice game. And then

747
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.599
m Malik Clements had five tackles for
lost, which was also impressive. Same

748
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:21.320
with Brandon Alexander the cornerback. So
again good to see all those guys,

749
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.880
you know, kind of really putting
things together again. Like I was going

750
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:29.199
into the season, I really wanted
to see how Winnipeg would start, especially

751
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.119
um, just coming off the Great
Cup loss. It's like, you know,

752
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.280
how do you sort of tackle that
momentum? Like is it gonna shift?

753
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:37.840
You know, because there's a lot
of moving pieces there. You've been

754
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.159
good for so long. But to
be honest, they retained a lot of

755
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.480
their you know, core players,
and you know, obviously I think I

756
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.480
remember when Andrew Harris left to Toronto
and that seemed to be a big departure.

757
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.199
But Andrew Harris is getting older now, and I always knew, like

758
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.559
Brady olivera I was going to carry
the weight and he's done that so far.

759
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:59.840
So things like that, They've just
done a fantastic job sort of replacing

760
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:01.920
the few players that they've lost,
and I think that's why they're in this

761
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:07.280
position where they can score forty plus
points per game. Jason thoughts on this,

762
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.920
and I have a couple fall up
questions. Yeah, so I actually

763
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.559
believe it or not. Despite the
eighteen point deficit at the end of the

764
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:16.559
game. I thought this was the
most entertaining game so far this season.

765
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:21.800
There was a point in this game
where Saskatchewan was matching Winnipeg punch for punch.

766
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:24.880
Trevor Harris looked incredible in this game, especially considering who they had out

767
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:29.480
in the receiving corps. Obviously,
keyon Shaver Bakers yet to join the team

768
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:34.119
this season. He's out with an
injury. You have Drell Walker who's out

769
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.960
with injury. So I think that
Saskatchewan looked great considering the guys that they

770
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.679
had in there. And you know, I think this game really changed on

771
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.800
the Geneering Grant punt return because I
think that made it a ten point game

772
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:50.679
and then Winnipeg just kind of take
it home from there. But Winnipeg just

773
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.719
such a well oiled machine. In
terms of their offense, I think that

774
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.880
their defense showed a little bit of
holes. I think the first couple of

775
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.320
weeks of the season, they may
not be as good as they were the

776
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.719
previous couple of years. But I
think this offense is better than they've ever

777
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.920
been and I think that's gonna lead
them to a lot of victories. If

778
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.199
they're gonna score forty points every week. I think there's nobody that's going to

779
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:14.480
stop them this year. Yeah,
was this the best? Was this the

780
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:16.199
best punt return that I saw?
This at least top three? I think

781
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:20.199
Ben Grant was saying that as well, top three punt return he's ever seen.

782
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.119
Jason, Yeah, it was absolutely
incredible. I mean just count the

783
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:30.960
broken tackles and how far he went
like laterally across the field making guys miss

784
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:34.000
before he turned it up. So, I mean, Jenerry granted Son an

785
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.559
all time punt returner, I think
for what he's shown the past couple of

786
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.199
years in the CFL. The other
thing I had, oh it was it

787
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:45.679
ended the game late game when I
finally got the game on in like Saskatchewan

788
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:50.360
deciding not to go for it.
We had seen Ottawa go for it on

789
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.880
third down there at the kind of
end zone goal I whatever in the Thursday

790
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:58.239
game, and I like kind of
aggressiveness because I was going back and forward

791
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.320
with Christine the constable and I said, if you're onto at this point,

792
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:02.119
what do you have to lose?
Like I would go for it, like

793
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.920
what are we trying to save here? And I felt the same for Saskatchewan,

794
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.440
like Winnipeg, you can't match,
you know, they always say that,

795
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:12.440
like you can't match touchdowns with field
goals, and especially Winnipeg, like

796
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.039
they had the opportunity there to at
least give it a shot, and I

797
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:20.039
felt like not going forward and settling
for the three and the Winnipeg comes immediately

798
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.239
back, drives the field and gets
another touchdown, It's like, well,

799
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.039
now you're down. I just feel
like you have to be aggressive there,

800
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:28.239
and I feel like you have to
play a perfect game to beat Winnipeg,

801
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.039
and there was just too many issues
there with Saskatchewan. Anything else from this

802
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.159
one, I want to make sure
we get through the Ottawa game. Jason,

803
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.599
any other thoughts on the Winnipeg Saskatchewan
Well, I'm glad you brought that

804
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:43.519
decision up because I believe they were
down by fourteen points inside the ten yard

805
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.199
line about seven minutes left in the
fourth quarter, so plenty of time left

806
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:51.079
if they get the touchdown there to
come back potentially in that game. But

807
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:53.000
they decided to kick the field goal, and I'm just like, I'm a

808
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:57.760
big proponent of always going for it
if you're inside the ten yard line on

809
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.920
third on third down, in this
CFL, because if you turn it over,

810
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:05.039
you're giving them a long field,
whereas if you kick the field goal,

811
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.800
you're giving them the ball at the
forty yard line. Only gives the

812
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.599
good offenses. You can get a
couple first downs, they get that field

813
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.559
goal right back, So the field
goal doesn't help you in that situation.

814
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:17.320
So I really don't understand that decision. Like you mentioned Ottawa's decision on the

815
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:21.840
Thursday night game, I think I
really did agree with that one despite it

816
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.079
not working out. So I mean
again, I'm big proponent of going for

817
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:28.880
it on third and goal in those
situations. The other thing too, you

818
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:30.800
were saying Trevor Harris played good.
I said he played good despite I was

819
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.639
being totally wasn't going to play the
game of Rod Peterson came out and said

820
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.559
he's not playing. Trevor Harris is
there? And then Andrew where he was

821
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.400
that cried about that. I had
anything else here? Should write you?

822
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.360
People say either Trevor Harris whatever.
Oh and then the last thing, the

823
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.159
pizza feud. What was going on
with this pizza feud the Winnipeg Saskatchewhy did

824
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:53.320
I miss something with that? Is
this a Canadian thing? I couldn't tell

825
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:59.000
you. I'm there was something with
Regina Pizza being being duty or something like

826
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.559
that. Okay, so we end
up with that all right, last game

827
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:07.800
here, and this brought a little
bit of enjoy to my heart because early

828
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.000
on in the XFL season there was
a couple of poor games, as you

829
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:13.960
would expect from a startup league in
the first couple of weeks of gameplay.

830
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.159
Marshall Ferguson felt the need to chirp
off on Twitter about the poor gameplay,

831
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:22.320
and I was very happy to have
Marshall Ferguson on the call for quite possibly

832
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.280
the worst CFL game of the week, certainly of the season thus far,

833
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:29.639
with the Calgary Stampeters beating the Ottawa
Red Blacks that evan initial thoughts on this

834
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.719
game, Yeah, this one was
rough. Definitely a rough way to start

835
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.440
the week. I you know,
I remember putting this game on and I

836
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.880
was like, oh, geez man, Like immediately it just kind of stood

837
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.639
out as like a sore thumb.
And I don't want to you know.

838
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.920
I know there's been I heard some
talk on Twitter about how sometimes when Calgary

839
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:51.960
and Ottawa played each other it ends
up being like this, But I don't

840
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:53.719
know, Like I was watching that
game and it was almost it's just one

841
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.480
of those games where it's like what
are we doing? You know, like

842
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.920
what is going on? Like you
know, like I don't I don't want

843
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:02.840
to say I can do a better
job than you know anybody that you know

844
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:07.079
is in these sort of positions,
but I mean you look at it and

845
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.519
you're just like, I mean,
there's just so many things that could have

846
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:15.280
been done differently. I will say
the one thing that I was pleased about

847
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.039
was Tyree Adams getting some action in
a quarterback for Ottawa, you know,

848
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:24.159
the nick Arbuckle thing, Like he
started the game okay, but still turning

849
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:28.440
the ball over, still not finding
the ends, Like all those problems are

850
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.199
still there, right, So I
think, again the Red Blacks are they've

851
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:35.920
already started you know. Maybe I
don't want to say making that transition,

852
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.840
but like, would it be surprising
if Tyree Adams you know, played again.

853
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:44.599
No, I mean he did,
Okay, he still had to turnover

854
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:47.320
as well, but like a tiny
bit more efficient in the past game and

855
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.360
had more passing yards, So I'll
give that one to him. Yeah,

856
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:57.400
just the whole game really felt you
know, sloppy, I think is the

857
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.800
word for it. And I'm glad
that you know that the game like right

858
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:06.199
after that, um, I think
it was it was Winnipeg Saskatchewan was the

859
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.800
game after that, right, yeah, yeah, after Yeah, So I'm

860
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:13.440
glad that there was kind of that
turnaround. Um. But man, like

861
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:17.880
you know, I'll just say it's
with all that in mind, I'm glad

862
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:22.000
that Calgary was able to pull through
because I do feel like they were the

863
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.760
better team here. Um. Was
it a perfect day for them by any

864
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.280
means? Not really? They did
all right on offense. You know,

865
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.159
Jake Mayer two hundred and seventy yards. Dedrick Mills was someone I had my

866
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:35.800
eye on, you know, really
the whole game. Um, he was

867
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.599
being talked a lot. Is like
again he had you know, some shoes

868
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:44.880
to fill there. And then Reggie
Begelton Begelton, Um, you know he's

869
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.079
been with Calgary now for a while. Um, I know, I remember

870
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:52.239
back when I first started doing CFL
coverage, he had signed with the Packers

871
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.119
or something, and then now he's
come back and you know, still with

872
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.039
Calgary, you know, doing his
thing all these years later. It seems

873
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.320
like so, you know, good
for him him on that front, but

874
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.480
ultimately, yeah, I mean this
game was just kind of one where you're

875
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.679
like, you know, you're glad
it's over and you move on. And

876
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:10.280
I think the teams maybe thought that
too. I could be wrong, but

877
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:15.559
like, that's that's what I just
gathered from watching on my TV. Jason

878
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:19.280
thoughts. I had a quote here
Bob Dyce after the game, we have

879
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.320
to look seriously look adapted everything we're
doing as a good if we a firm

880
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.840
believe we just have to correct the
errors because like this only comes back.

881
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.199
This isn't a different team about him. Feel like, what did you make

882
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:32.119
of this really pitoful performance by Ottaway. Well, one stat tells the whole

883
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:37.760
story of the first two games for
the Autoo Red Blacks. Zero offensive touchdowns.

884
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:42.400
That's inexcusable and honestly, Edmonton would
be right along with them if not

885
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.920
for that one hundred and two yard
touchdown by Eugene Lewis in the first game.

886
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:50.679
So Ottawa, you know, I
feel for them because they've been stuck

887
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:52.760
in the mud for the last several
years here. I mean, this was

888
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.480
a team that justin twenty eighteen they
were in the Gray Cup. I mean

889
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:00.760
and just the last several years here
we just have not seen them get anything

890
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:05.239
together, especially on the offensive side
of the ball. I think that,

891
00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:07.119
you know, the first half of
this game was very hard to watch.

892
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.440
I think that once Tyree Adams came
to the game, it was a lot

893
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:15.519
more watchable. Calgary also played better
offensively in the second half. I think

894
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.800
both offenses played terrible in the first
half. I think really the only touchdowns

895
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.280
that Calgary got were off turnover,
so you know, I think that was

896
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:25.239
a really sloppy game from that perspective. But in the second half, I

897
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:30.000
think Calgary got some things going.
Good to get Reggie Bagleton going. He

898
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.079
had a very disappointing year from in
my opinion last year. I think he

899
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.159
was my number one receiver going into
the league last season, so it was

900
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.280
good to see him get going.
Willie Kennry had a big reception at the

901
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:45.599
end there. But overall, I
think that this game was one basically by

902
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.119
one really strong drive in the third
quarter by Calgary to get a touchdown.

903
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:52.719
But other than that, I think
that, you know, Ottawa really just

904
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:54.840
didn't get anything going again, not
getting it in the end zone, and

905
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:59.679
it's hard to win games like that. Jason, do you think that Mayor's

906
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.280
kind of fallen off here and not
living up or how do you how do

907
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:07.559
you kind of grade his performance thus
far? Well, first of all,

908
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:10.119
I actually wanted to say that I
believe these statistics are wrong. I believe

909
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:14.280
the I think he actually passed for
over three hundred yards in this one,

910
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:16.960
So I mean that's another thing with
the statistical system that have an error resolve

911
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:20.320
over the place. But I think
he was better in this one. I

912
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:23.360
think it was acceptable. Still not
the level of play I'd like to see

913
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:27.519
from him, but I think that
I didn't really have any problems with this

914
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.440
performance. He the one turnover rehad, I think it was off as receivers,

915
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.159
and so I'm not going to really
fault him for that. So I

916
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.079
think he was much better from week
than week one. So I think that

917
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:42.079
given the bar for a quarterback play
in the CFL right now, I still

918
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.760
think he is one of the better
quarterbacks in the league. And I think

919
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:46.199
that, you know, if he
can just play like this going forward,

920
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.280
even if he doesn't play any better
than this, I think that, you

921
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:53.199
know, I think Calgary doesn't really
have too many things to be concerned about

922
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:57.400
going forward because the rest of their
team is just very strong. They're always

923
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.320
gonna be able to run the ball, and that was a big difference Week

924
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:05.000
one for them because against BC they
could not get that running game going whatsoever.

925
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:07.239
In this game, Detrick Nels had
a huge game, So I think

926
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.880
getting the running game going, allowing
him to lean on play action a little

927
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:16.199
bit more is a big thing for
Mayor going forward. The other because Kadeem

928
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.960
was out too, right is he
on the sixth game? Coadem carry right

929
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.840
now? Is he on yeah?
Sixth game injured list? Yeah, so

930
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.239
certainly not good there. We'll start
to wrap this up look ahead. Here.

931
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:28.599
I had a comment here might have
to be on the stream here.

932
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:30.599
I can put users in time out
if they have inappropriate comments. We have

933
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:35.960
just reminded the defending Gray Cup champions
are America's CFL team. Trummor. I

934
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:37.840
don't appreciate that, Mac, then
I do not appreciate that. Yeah,

935
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:42.599
Chris knows. I tho the BC
Lions are America seam looking for it.

936
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:47.239
Here I had the schedule Evan thoughts
BC here with the early game kicking off

937
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:52.880
Thursday, we'll have our show regular
on Friday again this week and our kind

938
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.199
of our regular weekend show here BC
going on Thursday, and then we have

939
00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:00.880
Montreal at Hamilton, Saskatchewan at Calgary, and then Toronto at Edmonton. That

940
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:04.760
could be a scary one there,
Evan, thoughts of the game you're looking

941
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.559
most forward to heading into the weekend, Well, I definitely think BC at

942
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.599
Winnipeg is the headliner. That's gonna
be the real test for the lines.

943
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:14.320
You know, they've come out pretty
hot. A couple of things they could

944
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:17.079
have done differently, but ultimately they're
two and o. Both them and Winnipeg

945
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:20.840
are two and o at top of
the West, so that'll be interesting to

946
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.679
see. I mean, BC's playing
at their house, so you know that

947
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:28.559
that makes it a bit more difficult. That's definitely the matchup I'm most excited

948
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.199
for. The other one that I'll
talk about here is Saskatchewan at Calgary.

949
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:35.679
I feel like that'll kind of be, you know, one of those teams,

950
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:37.639
like you know, I mean,
right now, it seems like BC

951
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:43.079
and Winnipeg are gonna be the two
you know, Western teams, but like

952
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:45.639
Saskatchewan and Caligraph, I feel like
it's sort of you know, who slots

953
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:51.159
in at number three there and I
think that I think that that might um,

954
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:53.119
that'll be interesting. I feel like
that game could determine a lot about

955
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:57.880
just sort of how the rest of
the season goes, especially just through the

956
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:04.840
entire Western Division, even though it's
only Week three. Yeah, Jason,

957
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:10.079
In terms of do you think Hamilton
gets a bounced back here, I reluctantly

958
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:15.480
say they do. I think I
do think they generally play much better at

959
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:17.800
home year to year, and I
think if Matthew Schiltz is playing, I

960
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:22.480
oddly have more confidence that they'll win
this game. But Montreal is coming off

961
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.960
a bye week, which is the
diagrams kind of got screwed a little bit

962
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:30.440
by the schedule makers at the beginning
of this season. Obviously, Toronto having

963
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.880
the bye week week two, they
have to travel to Winnipeg week one,

964
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:37.800
and then Montreal off a bye again
here, so I think that's something to

965
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:42.119
keep in mind. But I think
Hamilton coming back home generally plays with a

966
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:45.679
lot more energy there, so I
think defensively they'll play a lot better or

967
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:49.360
maybe get Cody Fajardo will throw a
couple of interceptions here or there. So

968
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.840
I think Hamilton, I'm pretty confident
in a bounce back for them, Mac

969
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:58.480
the Knife. Here you can win
tickets to the XFL next year or the

970
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:01.000
USFL twenty twenty three Champ Chip game, which has not taken place yet,

971
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:06.840
so we could still add a subscribers
here before July. First watch it there

972
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:08.280
and then Chris. Here are lots
of emojis. I don't know if this

973
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:13.159
is appropriate, but we'll put it
on here. I think Cornelius got a

974
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.320
lot of poop emojis here, and
we're gonna go beat the Argos that way.

975
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.079
It should be exciting here. Evan, anything else for me before we

976
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.199
get out of here, You know, I don't think so. Like I

977
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.199
said, I mean, you know, I really want to see some of

978
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:29.800
these teams that are struggling turn around. I mean that everyone says that,

979
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:32.400
but I really mean it because especially
teams like Ottawa who have been in the

980
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:37.039
basement for a while, and same
with Edmonton, especially those two. It's

981
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.960
just I really hope here that at
least in the first month of the season,

982
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.400
that they're able to get a win
and turn things around, because right

983
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.519
now it looks pretty grim for some
of those teams. Fortunately, you know,

984
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.000
teams like BC have continued to be
strong even though they've lost some key

985
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.679
pieces, you know, the argos. They still had a couple of questions

986
00:59:55.679 --> 01:00:00.239
even coming off the Great Cup win. Clearly not a problem yes to day

987
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.639
against Hamilton. Hopefully they continue that. Um so you know, teams like

988
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:07.480
that, I mean, everyone is
in a different position right now. I

989
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:09.760
feel like and I mean that,
I mean that in some good ways,

990
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:13.559
and I mean that in some bad
ways. Like there's some teams that have

991
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:15.960
a lot of work to do,
and there's some teams that have really none

992
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:19.199
to do. Like if you're Winnipeg, like, I don't see what you

993
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.360
could really change to make things better. But that's usually how it goes about

994
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:27.320
every year. I'm just a bit
surprised to some extent that, like some

995
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:31.400
of these teams have shown like no
improvement whatsoever, like at all. Again,

996
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:35.000
I get it, it's week two, knee jerk reaction. Whatever.

997
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:40.159
We're not gonna you know, we're
not gonna. I don't know anyway.

998
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:45.400
Um yeah, I'll stop, I'll
stop rambling now. Yeah that's good.

999
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:52.800
Jason, we're here week two of
this. You're now ingratiated in the writers

1000
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:57.440
group Twitter that you don't don't sell
our secrets to the Canadians here, anything

1001
01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:00.559
else from you here as we work
our way through the season. No,

1002
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:04.760
I'm just excited for Week three.
I think that we're learning more and more

1003
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.840
about these teams. I think,
you know, once we get past the

1004
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:10.159
third fourth week of the season,
then we get a much better idea of

1005
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:15.159
you know, where these said teams
are at. I think once everybody's had

1006
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:17.880
their home openers and everything like that. So I'm excited to see what we

1007
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:22.679
have in store going forward. I
will say, if you're still on the

1008
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:24.239
fence here, I did tweet you
know, if you're still on the fence

1009
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:28.599
and you're like, I gotta don't
really care about the CFL USFL ending here

1010
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:31.199
And I did have this tweet yesterday. I was really proud of the Breakers

1011
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:35.199
Gamblers game. First half was one
of the worst house in football I've ever

1012
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:37.880
seen. I said, I probably
apologize any fathers out there watching this game

1013
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:40.519
with their children. If you're still
on the fence about the CFL. It

1014
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:45.559
can't be any worse in that half
of football yesterday. So join us,

1015
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:49.280
Pat and I will be back tomorrow. We'll be doing USFL Week ten preview,

1016
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.400
and then I think Pat is doing
an all USFL team that we're going

1017
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.440
to be doing here on the podcast
this week. I think Derek Taylor,

1018
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:58.440
like I said, it's coming on, and I believe Rick Sarah Tella as

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well. We're gonna be talking to
XFL Rookie Draft and the team's kind of

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rounded out. Appreciate everyone like and
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championship tickets or XFL next year.
Appreciate it. We'll get out of here

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