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Welcome to you, softcore history.
What is up? Welcome back to softcore

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History. I am your host for
the week, Rob Fox, and as

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always I am joined by Dan Jester
and Jake Goldman, and we're here to

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talk some history. But before we
do, I do have a couple of

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little house cleaning things at the top. First off, please go to iTunes

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and leave it's a five star review, and leave a review. We've got

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some good ones. We'll save those
for the end. There was one that

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I think one that we really liked
quite a few, Yeah, there was.

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Well. I appreciate you actually introducing
this though, rather than just going

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right into the house cleaning. Yes, because you've done it quite a few

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times. House cleaning is more important. But I was being played. It's

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almost as if you have never hosted
a podcast before. I'm here too.

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I'm more interested in getting likes and
reviews than telling people your names, because

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you're a slut for validation. Rob, Yeah, tell them how much you

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like me, and then say what's
his name? And who's it's what's fun?

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And Jeff? Yeah, reginal Older. I thought your guys names were

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Don and Jeff. To be quite
honest, like, I thought that was

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accurate ron I assume was a typo
NB there. Literally, I have a

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ten year I have to know you
for ten years before I actually know your

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name. Okay, that's a fair
Yeah, that's a fair rule, because

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I mean, what are you gonna
do, like just try to remember their

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name before you and I've only known
you guys for nine so you've known who

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I am for ten? Oh?
What a dumb Internet? It's what did

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I say? A lie? I
didn't know who you were? You?

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Did? You were? You did? I didn't read TFF? Did you

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did? Didn't you? Did you
knew? Anyway? Uh? Please leave

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you want to call in and leave
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number off It's five one two nine
eight one five one four three. Again

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that number, it's five one two
nine eight one five one four three suck

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my dick. He learned it.
I learned it. Proud of you.

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I did it. I remembered ten
numbers in a row. Extremely proud of

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you. Aren't know my dad's cell
phone number. I was at a water

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Burger yesterday and the code get in
the bathroom was eight digits long. That's

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good. Seems a little people have
been doing. People were probably doing it

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on speaking one on Barton Springs.
Oh my god. Yeah, that one.

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That water Burger is just like homeless
orgies in that bathroom. My whole

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point is eight digits is too long. Make it four, or it's just

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right for the people you don't want
in there. Yeah. Also, a

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code's not going to keep any homeless
people out. They'll just smash the fucking

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lock lock off if they really want
to get a door down. He'll keep

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the drunk barfers out. It will
keep them out. Yeah. On the

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patreon, we have I don't know
why you jumped in with a water Burger

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story. On the Patreon, we
also have a full back catalog because it

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was eight digits long, and he
you know, I'm proud of him.

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Okay, yeah, there was a
three line I forgot about that. We're

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cutting into the history time guys.
Yeah, really cutting into the full back

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catalog all evergreen shit, so that
five dollars a month isn't just getting you

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those months episodes, it's getting you
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which is evergreen all history content,
fun shit like that. We also do

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game shows and stuff like trivia contests
for history and stuff like that. Check

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it out. It's a lot of
fun. Anyway, Now onto the show.

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No, No, We're gonna do
no History today. What's the deal?

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Anybody that's stumbled upon this podcast without
knowing who we are? Fucky this

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episode. I doubt that's gonna happen
this episode because it's not very seo friendly,

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Like it's not topical. Oh,
it's just like a random thing from

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history I found. So every episode
we do no like this is even this

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is pretty like pretty sure the only
time the thing we've done so far as

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Oppenheimer. You're welcome, Oppenheimer.
Well, we do like Christmas and uh

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and and fourth of julyzed that,
but yeah, the only like hyper topic.

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I mean, we've we've exhausted those
holidays and Halloween obviously we've just no.

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But this is more like my I
cannot wait for October. I know

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spooky month is, Spooky Month is
come and tell your friends get ready for

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Spooky Month. We're coming hard,
We're coming bloody. But this is more

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akin to like my traveling m It
could be it could be an episode on

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the road, but I think we
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another location. On location catacombs.
Yeah, we're going to the Romans French

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catacombs so that guy can comment and
be like, man, I can't tell

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these guys nothing now, just to
shove it in his face. Really,

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I will add him. We'll go
back to that video find I'd be like,

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hey, bitch, check out watch
this episode. Here's a link.

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Suck it. Yeah, I can't
wait. Tell me get real petty with

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our negative comments. What do you
think is the greatest lengths somebody has gone

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to to prove an Internet troll wrong. Well, guy one time on counter

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Strike lost a knife fight in Counterstrike
and he found that dude like, yeah,

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I was gonna say I had to
be murder, like, there's no

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way it's not. The Internet was
probably only around for a year before the

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first troll related murder happened. Yeah, the guy went and found him and

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stabbed him in real life because he
lost the counter That man was Al Gore.

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Well, he invented the internet just
to do that. That's like the

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meat. That's like the shittiest,
most bad faith reading of that Al Gore

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quote. It is everybody's just like
talking shit on it. I didn't even

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realize it. I thought he did
say something stupid. I just took everyone's

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word for it. He met like
the Royal We like the America, like

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America, Yeah, we created this. It's like imagine like someone's like,

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we built the railroads across the nation. It's like and then everyone's like,

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this guy thinks he built the trans
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if he went to the bo bitch. He even talking about the guy who

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went with like yeah, okay,
fucking it was just so shitty. It's

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a pretty good example of like before
sound biting someone to death was a thing.

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They get it to him pretty hard
because there was something about like he

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compared his life to the romantic comedy
Love Story during that campaign, and they

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were like, he thinks that movie
is about him. It's like no,

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no one thinks that, Like,
yeah, for all the things you give

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out Gore ship for Yeah, there's
so many more things. Yeah, but

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yeah, anyway, a little bit
of a niche subject today. Today's episode

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is about something that about the type
of thing that whenever I get like,

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I don't know, a little anxious, a little stressed out about life or

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a situation in the world, it's
a sort of thing I think about and

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it relaxes me. Oh God,
where is it? Where's the left turn?

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Today we're talking about the African slave
trade. I know which one you're

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talking You're talking about the Eastern one, aren't. Kind of to an extent,

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it's not the slave trade that relaxes
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worth, it's my own personal theme
for this show, for this episode,

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but I feel like it's my other
history theme. Like obviously we say shit

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don't change uh all the time because
shit don't try blah blah blah. But

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it's like what we broadly subscribe to. I guess. But another theme,

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Dan, I think this one will
resonate with you in particular, another theme

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that I constantly have like remind myself
up to feel feel good. You remember

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that meme when like you know,
black lives matter, and then it's blue

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lives matter, and there's just a
picture zoomed out of the milky Way and

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there's like no lives matter. Yeah, that is kind of how I It's

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like a calming thing I get about
history, and the theme of this history

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theme in particular is no one's gonna
remember you m a spec of dust on

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a spec of dust, on a
spec of dust, your life Sawsymandius,

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King of Kings. Yeah, yeah, no one's gonna I mean, if

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you ask someone like the average person
to write down every historical figure they are

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aware of prior to nineteen hundred,
what do you think the what's the over

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under on the number they get,
the number number of historical figures they can

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write down, give them thirty minutes. You have to invade in another country

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typically, Yeah, do something horrific, yeah, or invent something incredible,

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or just sue somebody like I bet
even like Caesar would only be on like

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one out of every five lists.
You think, So you think Hitler's on

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everyone pretty much? I mean people
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Oh no, I'm sorry, Yeah, Hitler doesn't count because it's it's that

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no twentieth century historical figures. Yeah, like you're you're not a hard time.

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Actually, I bet it's I put
the number like thirty five. You

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think the average person could write thirty
five down? No, I think more

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fictional characters like a thour which doesn't
count, Like Medusa. Yeah, still

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get like Lincoln and Washington. There's
so many. The way I'm putting set

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in the over under it nine and
a half. I think the average person

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can't do ten if you get him
thirty minutes to sit down, right,

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thirty minutes is such a long you
know what. But I'm I think of

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the people I hang out with,
and I'm like, oh, then they

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could probably do it, but not
everyone. You have to be assassinated.

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Even then, like Garfield, nobody
really knows him, right, or fucking

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McKinley, forget that, right,
No one knows these people. So so

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that's what that's what I like to
think about when I when I think,

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like the world's big and right in
my face, I'm like, no one

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cares. Well, no one's gonna
remember anything I do, even if it's

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incredible, probably will be remembered.
We're gonna be doing a double header on

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Africa this week. Then oh wow, get us? Yeah? Really growing?

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Look at us? I think me
and Jake still off time to be

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remembered. Yeah, I think it's
it's past you Roby seven thirty two.

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We're still we're still young. And
yeah, it's we really should be at

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the point of the apex though,
and not at the floor. You have

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kids, so you kind of pass
on. That's all your hopes and dreams

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ont of that the only legacy any
of us are ever gonna have as children.

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I'm good. Yeah, well yeah, if you have any at all,

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that's right. My legacy is gonna
be something cool, like I don't

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know, some invention, all right, Stu pickles that start inventing. I

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guess, all right, here you
go, plush toys that are animals but

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bananas, call them bananimals. Get
get on it. It's been done,

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pattent Penny. No, it's over
in Korea. I'm sure it's probably probably

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that sounds very Korean. That's something
something you would see in like a Korean

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gas sting. What what if that's
my calling? Like Korean plush toys?

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Get on it? Yeah? Go
what are you knowing stopping? You get

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up and do it? All right? See you? Yeah, enjoy the

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episode. I'll so my own my
own specific example I like to think of

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when I think of this, sure
mind myself when i'm you know, whatever,

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is the Battle of Manza Kurt.
You guys ever heard of this?

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No hear about this? Yeah,
I'm a big Manza Kurt guy. I

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ran no okay close. It was
in Turkey, okay. Uh. It

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was basically the loss uh the Eastern
Roman Empire lost battle of the Turks,

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and like the ten hundreds, Uh, it essentially made it like that was

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it. They were done in Anatolia. After that the Turks took over colonized

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it. They weren't from there,
people forget that Turkey not the land of

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Turks. No, they were from
east of there, weren't they Uh,

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like south and east? Yeah,
like from more from inner step. They

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were more like around I think,
from around like Egypt or North America.

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Oh really, I thought they were
more like I thought like they came up

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from eat through Egypt. I think. Oh man, So I always thought

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Turks were like more of a step
kind of like Kazakh area group of people.

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You know, maybe they are actually
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the thing. No, I don't
remember because no one, no one talks

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about the Turks not being from Turkey, that's something that's not really covered,

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right, yeah, right, Okay, they were from more Central Asia than

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anything, but one of the last
places. You're only proving your point exactly.

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Yeah. No one remembers anything,
and I'm good at remembering this stuff,

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and you don't remember anything, So
why don't you pronounce Bhutan? Right?

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Listen to our patriot scooting buggy straight
up booting. So that was it.

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This is the battle that they lost, and essentially that was it was

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not the immediate final nail in the
Eastern Roman Empires COFFM. But they were

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never going to recover from that.
They were never going to be a powerful

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nation again. After that. It
was even worse. It was set them

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on the path that then you know, the Crusades fucked up even worries and

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blah blah blah blah. Anyway,
there's a massively important historical event. People

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died there. It was the pinnacle
of many people's lives, some more than

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some battle. No one remembers some
battle, no one. I mean,

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like, can you imagine that you're
like dying bleeding out on this field and

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you're like, I did it for
the emperor. This will be remembered and

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sung about for the ages. Nah, and this is Western civilisation. Yeah,

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yeah, No, this isn't even
like a random battle in China where

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eight million people die. Still beats
getting stabbed at like a Black Friday sale

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leading out in the Walmart check it
out. My family will remember. My

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family will remember me getting the Scarman
GPS system. Songs will be song of

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me every Thanksgiving. No, no, just get fifty bucks off a big

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screen TV. Right, it's gonna
burn out in two years. So again,

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TV's are cheap as hell. Now. Hey, yeah, I know

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I shouldn't be killing anybody over TV. It's the only thing that's getting cheaper.

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So again, no one's gonna remember. No one's gonna remember you.

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And that's our show. Guys,
thanks so much for listening. No one

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will remember you. That's the message
we really want you to take. No

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one's gonna remember. Do you make
art? Do you? What do you

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do? It doesn't matter. No
one's even even artists, that's what I'm

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saying, even the artists. No, it's four, there's four. Yeah,

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it's four total artists. And one
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It's just Sandy Warhol. He just
slaps his name on stuff. Yeah,

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hate that guy. Everyone knows.
Everyone does the best. The best explanation

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of Andy Warhol's and Men in Black
three if you've seen it, it's just

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one of the aliens. No,
no, I'm not gonna spoil it.

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Just you don't even have to watch
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seemed black. The movie's like a
decade old at this point, but this

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story reminded me of that general theme
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story of the Zane Rebellion. Okay, let's hear it. I'm glad we

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don't clash topics this week. Yeah, I figured that wasn't going to be

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a problem. Oh damn it.
Actually, as soon as you said,

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oh, we're both doing Africa,
I was like a funk. I gotta

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grab my backup. I only have
one Africa U per week. Yeah,

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no, we can have too.
Yeah, I'm probably fine. Mind's more

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of a biopic. It's a big
continent. Yeah, so, because it's

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such a huge event event and more
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all encompassing event for the people involved. Like it, it's like the most

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important monstrous thing that happened. These
people lives and it had rammic ocations throughout

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the world. You don't know what
you never heard of it have to imagine

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because these countries are so insignificant.
Now, I mean, no, Turkey

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doesn't matter. This isn't Turkey.
This happened in Iraq, oh I know.

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but he brought up Turkey, and

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like even Turkey does not matter now, not really, it can be it

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can be a yeah, they're I
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they're in NATO, they're not really
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to Turkulse in there like government.
Yeah that's because you're a sports guy.

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But that's all that you can really
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this point pretty much. So Yeah, I mean this event, I mean,

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this is like a traumatic, catastrophic
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and no one knows about it,
not because we're ignorant or anything. There's

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just too much to know. Even
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people in the moment dying, this
is the biggest event ever that could ever

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happen to them, and we're like, oh, this was fun trivia for

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the day. Yeah, it's it's
just fun. I mean, that's just

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history. It's funny to me,
but let's talk about it now. So

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imagine, right in your thesis on
this in college, like you spend all

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your time studying this specific incident.
Probably have There are probably people with their

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thesis that seems like a total waste. No, it's better to do something

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like this that the professor's not gonna
shit about. Yep, real granular.

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Do you want to do one about
Napoleon? Good luck, asshole? Yeah,

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say something that hasn't been said about
this already, because that's your thesis,

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right, Yeah, your thesis needs
to bring a new You need to

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find the most random shit you can
think of. Yeah, the whole point

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of the thesis is to bring some
a new All I'm saying is you think

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this moment here in history does not
matter in the grand scheme of things.

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That man's paper with that woman's paper, yeah, even less so what they're

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paper about it. Yeah? Oh
yeah, yeah, it's all just I

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mean, and honestly, it's like
a colt it's like a robot learning about

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it, you know what I mean. It's like, oh hmm, those

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people got their heads cut off.
Interesting, m the person gets his head

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office. It's very interesting to him. Yeah, totally. So what years

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are these so? Uh, it
happens from eight sixty nine to eight eighty

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three a d. Sick takes place
in the opposite caliphate, of course,

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which is the third caliphate to succeed
Mohammed himself. Uh. It was founded

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by a dynasty that traced back to
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At the height of its power in
eight sixty a d. The borders

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of the Abbasid Caliphate stretched from Sicily
to India. It was a good caliphate.

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Yeah, big, big, old
caliphate. Not as big as the

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Umiad Caliphate before it. Yeah,
that was like Spain in India, it

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was like yeah, almost I think
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I don't know that they've gotten Uh. The heart of the empire was in

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Iraq. The capital, I think
the capital, either capital or it's you

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know, New York City was Baghdad, which was arguably at the time the

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greatest city on Earth. Cool.
This was what was known as the Golden

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Age of Islam that you hear so
much about. Oh pre Mongol, oh

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by about four years yeah yeah,
yeah, before they knuke the city.

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Yeah, with swords these kind it
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Like, hey, get you want
to get nuked, but slow, slow

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nukes. Slow nuking is really not
ideal. Now around this time, they're

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bucking, there's living their lives.
What the Mongols, No, No,

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the Muslims. Yeah, the Caliphate, they're crushing it. This is probably,

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I imagine this is the most powerful
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eight sixty he's still the Eastern Roman
Empire is still a big fucking deal.

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But like Western Europe is kind of
whatever, I guess maybe the Holy Roman

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Empire and then I'm still kind of
re establishing itself. Yeah post fall of

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Western Roman Empire, right, yeah, yeah, so they're still realigning.

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This is what would this is during
what people would still I think consider the

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Dark Ages for Europe. Yeah,
even though the Dark Age is kind of

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a misnomer, but that's neither here
nor they're not important. So one area

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of the Empire that was somewhat underdeveloped, despite this being probably the richest nation

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or whatever you want to call it, empire on Earth at the time and

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most advanced, was uh in its
backyard actually southern Iraq. After the Arabs

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conquered Mesopotamia. The port city of
Bazra sprung up shortly afterwards, Boss in

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southern Iraq, near the Persian Gulf. If you remember the second invasion of

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Iraq, that's the one we gave
the Brits to take. Whoa Brits took

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Basra. Let the Brits have it. You guys like ships? Yeah,

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oh you know, Bob got ya? God not? You can got today

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show, Bob say d. That's
how I imagine it went down. Yeah,

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yeah, President Bush, this is
a pretty serious topic. I don't

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think now so the song to be
doing an impression of Oh yeah, I

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would love Behind the scenes, Tony
Blair and George W. Bush. You're

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just talking about what to do.
George, it isn't it just fucking sing

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song? And it Tony Blair and
Tony you fucked pig didn't yet It's like,

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oh, god damn it. Everyone
forgets about that. I really hate

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that. I need to bring these
petrol prices down, God damn it.

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So yeah, bas Boss are sprung
up shortly after, and it became arguably

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the Islamic world's primary trading link with
East Asia, India, Indonesia, blah

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blah blah. This was their ports
city. You know the episode I did.

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I think it was on the Patreon
about the African slaves in China.

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I really got to do something about
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but yeah, joined the clothes waters. Actually listen to our Punt episode from

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a million years ago. Punts was
good where Egypt got all their treasure from.

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Now not they bought it, they
bought it. Just be clear.

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Punt was a trading trading empire that
we knew a little bit about. And

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also it was sexy land. It
was sex. They talked about the always

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taught the eas Egyptians wrote poetry about
how sexy it was. They were serving

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punt all day long. Man.
But sou yeah, this because the city

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became fabulously wealthy. It was,
you know, I mean it was like

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the most one of the most important
ports in the world at the time.

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Uh. Still, the areas around
Basra were largely abandoned. Uh marshland.

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started. Oh, because they're all
where all the first cities sprung up.

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Fertile land blah blah blah, swampy
fertile Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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it can be. It can get
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and that's what fucking happened. The
areas around Basra were largely abandoned marshes

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that used to be farmland, certainly
when the Marians were around, but even

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after that. The tigers and euphrates, though, are kind of like,

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so the Nile, like it floods
slowly, it's peaceful, it rises up,

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and the Egyptians are like, it's
time to harvest. The tigers and

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euphrates just like murder you and your
sleep. It's like a flash flood.

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river to live on. So when they

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flood, you're kind of fucked.
Yeah, especially in the valley between the

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two. Yeah, I would imagine, yeah, because like there's that,

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I mean, that's where Mary's essentially
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or sumer uh sumers may actually don't. They hadn't intersected yet at that point.

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Okay, they hadn't pushed all the
silt up, so all this was

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abandoned, but the Caliphate knew that
this land could be useful again for architecture

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if the marshes were converted back to
farmland. So the Caliphate just gave all

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this marshland to wealthy residence of Basra, and they're like, you can have

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this on the condition that you can
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make it useful, all right.
So the wealthy residents were like, sure,

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we'll take freeland. But then they
went to check on their new real

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estate and the job at hand that
would come with it, and they were

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like, man, this is gonna
be horrible work. I mean, it's

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hot as shit because we're in a
rack clearing all this water and vegetation and

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top soil. Sounds a lot like
some people's issues with the southern southeastern United

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States. Yeah, they're like,
this is just gonna be deathly work.

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I don't think we could pay anyone
to do this if we wanted to,

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so they didn't. So it's like
they're Mississippi. It's there, it's just

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off the punch of train, the
delta. Yeah. I would say Louisiana

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would probably be the state i'd want
to be a slave in the least.

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Yeah, just based on climate,
climate and conditions, like just wet Mississippi

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is the exact same Mississippi if you're
on the delta, but much worse.

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Yeah, well so it was East
Texas. Like, if you get past

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east of Houston, that's all fucking
gross too, dude. Honestly, if

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you're on the Delta, you're fucked. If you're in the Bio, you're

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fucked. At least Louisiana you have
some like name recognition. Nobody gives a

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fuck about Mississippi. No, Mississippi. Yeah, it's bad. It's the

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worst state in America. It's it's
by far the worst. There's not even

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a good city where they're named after
a river that doesn't start or end there.

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Yeah, it's just they're pretty stupid. Yeah, it's a dumb state.

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Yeah, I mean, but quite
literally, if you're from Mississippi,

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apologies but you're but now your school
system now trash. I don't. I

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was singing today about how old miss
what's your cuisine? Okay, mud pie?

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Actually know they have they have a
great they have a great ticket at

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your dish. The Mississippi pop roast. Yeah, the mud the mud roast,

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Mississippi mud Roast, That's what I'm
talking. I was thinking today how

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old miss has got to be like
it's just like it's just like really well

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dressed to literates. I don't even
know what the that's hilarious, but like

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I don't even like really like lipstick
on it. What do you think the

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largest city in Mississippi is? Do
you think you know it's got jack Jackson's

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easily Jackson speaking of Southern foods that
are dogshit though, Alabama sauce is stupid

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and it's not a barbecue sauce.
And I don't want that ship anywhere near

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anything I eat. Fucking ever,
seems like they're catching a stray for no

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reason. No, it's deserved.
Largest city in Mississippi's Jackson, with a

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population of one hundred and fifty thousand. Yeah, nobody should live in that

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state. That is insanely small for
the largest city of Like, have you

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been to Oxford. I've never stopped
anywhere other than a rest stop, dude,

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Oxford's tiny. Yeah crazy. I'll
be in Jackson next week or in

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two weeks. What thinking a pit
stop? Yep, making a pits You

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need to go to a dive?
No, you don't. I don't need

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to go out. I think I
just need to check into the hotel and

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sleep, just hang out with the
hotel bar. There's no way your hotel

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at a bar. No, it's
about to say that people watch fucking stopping

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go next day the hotel, any
hotel bar and Jackson. It's just like

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eight people drinking out in the back
of their truck in a parking lot at

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the hotel and they can't be wor
than roswell. Ah, that makes sense.

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New Mexico doesn't. There's certain states
that don't get as much shit for

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being garbage because I've thought it was
four Like the Mexico has skiing though,

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and they have some geographical Yeah,
how beautiful. Well, they have beautiful

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mountains, They've got the cool desert, you know what I mean. So,

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but like landmarks that you would actually
want to see. Yeah, the

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geography and topography of it like help
it help prevent it from getting all the

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ship that it should get. Where's
Mississippi even though Missippi's like kind of beautiful

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too if you just take the pieces, not it's not. It's missipping Oklahoma

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too. Oklahoma's of the worst and
ugliest states in the country. I would

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say Misissippi is several degrees Mississippi.
The only thing this is to be ups

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going for it is its coastline.
Gambling, gambling in Bulock sy like and

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that's on the coast Stark Vegas certainly
not Star. You gamble there know where

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they call it Star. I'm sure
you can't just called it Stark Vegas out

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of like a cute whatever name.
Anyway, I want to know about this

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place, Okay. So, uh, instead of you know, paying someone

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to do the work, which I
don't know if they thought they could do

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it or not, they really didn't
care. Uh, they just paid people

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00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:11,559
to go to the southeastern coast of
Africa and by a ton of slaves.

406
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:18,240
In fact, the two much primary
reasons the apposite Empire Caliphate even traded along

407
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:22,519
the African coast was for gold and
slaves. I mean, we can get

408
00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:26,799
into a much larger topic of African
slave trade across both top like coasts.

409
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,559
But something that a lot of people
don't realize is that other people, like

410
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:37,440
other empires that traded slaves with Africa. It didn't start out as some going

411
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,240
in and raiding slaves and kidnapping people. They were tapping into an already very

412
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:48,359
well established intercontinental or not. But
like within the continental in truck, no

413
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,039
inter would be within itself, right, no inner would be between contents like

414
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:57,680
Okay, so InTru continental slave trade
that was very established by chieftains and war

415
00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:03,279
lords and you know governments. By
the way, the vikings are popping off

416
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,200
at this time, they come across
the caliphate and like sicily they do,

417
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,720
yeah they do. But uh and
by the way, this is even so

418
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,880
they start to trade back and forth. This is being even too much of

419
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,920
a monoculture or treating Africa like a
monoculture. This is East Africa. Yeah,

420
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,400
they don't as far as I know, really have any contact with West

421
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:29,200
Africa, which is where the United
States and Great Britain and the New World

422
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,559
got its slaves. Yeah, right, and in Spanish, like they totally

423
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:36,000
different parts of a humongous connet.
Yeah, and even saying East and West

424
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,000
is kind of reductive into a monoculture
kind of trap. I wis there are

425
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:42,359
so different a long mives coasts.
Oh yeah, I will say though the

426
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,839
Abbasid Caliphate was basically going up and
down the whole coast. Yeah, East

427
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:48,599
Africa totally totally, but maybe not
all the way down to like South Africa

428
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,279
and ship but like it was quite
a bit of stretch of of Africa that

429
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:59,160
they traded with. Africa continent wise
might have the most resources throughout human history,

430
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,640
and we have done nothing but pillage
that that place. Not just that

431
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:11,880
like all of Oh it goes back
to basically as soon like probably pre Roman

432
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,559
Empire forward. People have just been
going into Africa and taking shit. Yeah,

433
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,559
fucking crazy. They never want to
stay, but it's just like,

434
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,240
yeah, we'll just take this.
It's it's rough here, guys. I

435
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:23,079
was just getting not an avy connent
to live on I feel like, you

436
00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:30,160
know what I mean, like maybe
on the Mediterranean coast a little bit gold

437
00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,119
lithium, like either the tippy top
or the bottom of me. That's where

438
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:38,359
that's where we got our uranium for
the atomic bombs. Yeah. Everything,

439
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:44,000
it's all in Africa at all,
man. So yeah, they just got

440
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:48,119
a ship ton of slaves from Eat
Africa enter the Zane. These were the

441
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,079
Africans that were you know, conquered
and kidnapped and whatever else and sold as

442
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,559
slaves to the wealthy elite of Bozzer
among many other places. Uh. And

443
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:59,680
these people did not give one single
funck about the Zange. Now, it

444
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,920
should be noted that this was not
really like racial slavery per se. I

445
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,519
mean, they were free black people
living, living their best lives in Pazda

446
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,720
and elsewhere from the same areas that
these slaves were from. Yeah, it's

447
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,640
just like these poor bastards were caught. I don't maybe they were further in

448
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,079
from the coast, you know what
I mean, and they were just like

449
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,720
plucked from whatever. Like that scene
in Apocalypto. Yeah, the opening town

450
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,039
scene of Apocalypto where they're just like, all right, I gotta do some

451
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:29,359
raiding. Yep. Uh, if
you survive, you're a slave. M

452
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,319
basically, what village you're gonna go
back to there isn't y. Yeah.

453
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,640
So these people, they did not
give one single fuck about desage or their

454
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:44,079
health. They were in extremely replaceable
people. Thus, believe it or not,

455
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:48,720
their living conditions were horrifying and despite
being a you know, just a

456
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:53,759
few days away literally from the world's
richest, most medically advanced, most knowledgeable

457
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:57,880
city, thousands of them died from
disease, starvation, exhaustion, torture,

458
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,799
and so on on a regulars.
Didn't matter. Money was flown through the

459
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:07,799
fucking city and the fucking Empire.
There were always more slaves to grab from

460
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,240
Africa and elsewhere. Africans weren't the
only people work in the marshes. But

461
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,880
the zane I think we're the primary
Uh what do you what do you call

462
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,680
it group? I guess the demographic. Yeah, they are the they're bearing

463
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,240
the brunt. Yeah. Now the
Zange' been slaves for a while. Actually,

464
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:30,160
they had previously revolted in six eighty
nine and six ninety fours, would

465
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,400
predate the apisite Caliphate that would be
against Umi had caliphate, But it wasn't

466
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:41,039
until eight sixty nine eighty when things
got real like Spartacus levels of serious uh

467
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:45,319
back in eight sixty one. So
the revolt starts in sixty nine. Eight

468
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,880
sixty one, the caliphate started dealing
with some serious internal strife. The central

469
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,200
government was broke from dealing with other
rebellions and wars. Several factions were trying

470
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,799
to take control of the empire.
At the same time, they had a

471
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,480
bunch of different caliphs take control in
rapid succession. Really, I mean just

472
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:02,799
typical imperial stuff. Yeah, same
shit, the ship that happens in Rome

473
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,640
and China whatever. You have an
empire at some point, this type of

474
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,559
shit's gonna happen. You gotta keep
the empire, right, you gotta and

475
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:14,599
people are going to try to take
power and blah blah blah blah. What

476
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,559
was one in Rome? The Year
of the Four Emperors. It's just shit

477
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,200
like that. It's we don't even
need to get into it again. It's

478
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:29,319
like typical empire shit. Enter Ali
ibn Muhammad, the man who would liberate

479
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:36,079
the Zange slaves because he was a
good man. No, this guy was

480
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:42,400
a piece of shit and he sucks
ass uh. It seems that Ali's primary

481
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:49,839
occupation in life was starting rebellions.
It's kind of cool. This is the

482
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:53,400
ultimate rebel without a cause. Like
this guy is literally a rebel without a

483
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,440
cause. He will adopt a cause
to justify his rebellion, but it's really

484
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,519
more about the rebellion. Some men
just wants to see the world bann.

485
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,839
He's a rabble rizer. This he
is a rabble riser. He is.

486
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,799
He's just trying to He's an agent
of chaos. He just wants to see

487
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:14,400
it get fucking twisted. He he's
essentially what I wrote is he's like like

488
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:20,000
his situation with rebellions is like someone
trying to become a famous YouTuber, like

489
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,880
just doing shitty pranks everywhere, hoping
and filling him and hoping like one goes

490
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,759
viral so he can be famous,
and hoping he doesn't get punched in the

491
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:30,880
face. Yes, that is that's
that is this guy's life. And in

492
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:37,920
fact, the Zons rebellion was not
Ali's first rebellion. Uh. In eight

493
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:42,119
sixty three, he went to the
eastern Arabian peninsula where like Qatar and Dubai

494
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,400
and Shiddar, and he pretended to
be a Shiite Muslim so he could convince

495
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:52,720
everyone to rebel. Why not to
really like throw it. He didn't think

496
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:58,759
the caliphate was uh, like you
know, some horrible imperial master or anything

497
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:04,039
like that. His main problem with
the caliphate is that like he wasn't in

498
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,359
charge of any of it. Yeah, I feel that, you know what

499
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,400
I mean, I should be making
the decisions. If this were my caliphate,

500
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,800
we'd be so much more efficient.
Yeah. And I don't even think

501
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,960
I mean, he would have gone
as far as he could have gone and

502
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,480
become became caliph if he could have
pulled that off. But they would have

503
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,119
been happy just slicing a piece of
land off for himself, yeah, and

504
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:24,079
and being like, yeah, I
can tax this place and get money and

505
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:29,719
be a king amenia. Yeah,
and that's where he wanted. He just

506
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,599
wanted clouting money. Okay, what's
his background? Is he coming from a

507
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,199
rich family? No self made man? Yeah, I suppose you could say

508
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,480
that kind of had to respect that. Yeah, he's just an entrepreneur.

509
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:45,920
I don't think he grew up poor
because he seems somewhat educated. So maybe

510
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:52,079
some sort of middle class situation.
But I don't think he was any sort

511
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,639
of nobility or anything, not that
he didn't claim to be. We'll get

512
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,000
to that. But it sounds like
he's a rising grind guy. He is

513
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:02,199
absolutely a rising grind guy, a
rise and grind, and he knows when

514
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:07,880
to he knows when to check out. Well, yeah, you gotta know

515
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,480
when to cash out. Yeah,
you gotta know when to hold him.

516
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,519
Yeah, Well he doesn't really know
when to hold him. He has when

517
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,840
to fold him though, no,
he never folds him. He knows,

518
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,719
he knows just when to cash out. He knows when to rapidly take all

519
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,320
his chips off the table and run
away. That's a good that's a good

520
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,679
thing to know that. They really
like that when you go to a poker

521
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:30,760
table and you just snatch them all
up and you win like three hands and

522
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,440
leave. They really love that.
Oh they do that. If anyone's never

523
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,960
played poker at a real table,
as soon as you get up, leave

524
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:44,880
just leave. Also, suck my
dick. You lost I one? Why

525
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,559
am I supposed to sit here and
let you take it back? That's that's

526
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:51,679
the kind of attitude right there that
you need to bring to the poker table.

527
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,800
If someone was like really a jamb
a true hour, I'd be like,

528
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,679
fuck fuck you, I'm cashing out. You and this man would have

529
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:01,800
got along. Yeah, well,
there a code at the gambling table.

530
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:08,639
Yes, there is a code.
A thousand fart noises to that. That's

531
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:15,199
fart noising. Okay, fuck,
that's the stupidest shit I've ever heard.

532
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:19,000
I mean, you're not, like
the whole point is that there's no way

533
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,400
you're getting up up in three hands. You're walking away with like you're just

534
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,119
kind of taking away from it.
Do you upset the black check table too?

535
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,719
By hitting on numbers you shouldn't do, You split things you shouldn't.

536
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,840
I do think that's a little different
because that's a team sport. It is

537
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,960
a team sport. You're going against
the dealer. Yeah, so that's that

538
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,159
makes more sense. But you're taking
money from the other players, so it's

539
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:43,599
not there is no like we both
get you know, it's the ninth inning

540
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:45,519
and we both get a turn at
bat. Right if I score on the

541
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:52,000
top of the ninth piece, out, bitch, I'm leaving, like giving

542
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:53,119
you a chance to get it back
now if you get a giant pot,

543
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:57,360
Yeah, run away, just run. Yeah, I guess if you're up

544
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,280
twenty dollars and leave like, that's
not even it's kind of weird. Yeah,

545
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:06,159
would like the football on your own
ten first. Fuck y'all. You

546
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,360
went from like the twenty five to
the forty. You have a first down?

547
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:15,719
Cool? All right? Yeah.
So his rebellion, his first rebellion,

548
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,039
it went pretty well at first in
the Eastern Arabian Peninsula again around Qatar

549
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:24,639
to buy all that stuff, and
his forces even got successful enough that his

550
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,840
dreams were starting to come true.
They were collecting taxes in his name.

551
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:36,199
Oh that's Cloud Big Big. I
already hate this guy collecting taxes. His

552
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,480
first move is taxes. Yeah,
this guy sucks. He conquers a little

553
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:44,320
land and starts taxing the people without
representation too sad. Undoubtedly, the whole

554
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:50,239
representation on taxes thing is very late
in the game. It's normally just fuck

555
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,880
you pay me. Because of most
of history is that scene from the finale

556
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:59,920
of Game of Thrones where Sam's like, well, everyone lives his so shouldn't

557
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,639
everyone get to say in that government? And then everyone just fucking laughs at

558
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:12,280
him. Yeah, idiot, why
my wholeso vote? Yeah? Yeah,

559
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,440
that's that is all of history until
basically the American Revolution. Typically, a

560
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,360
man that's been in prison for months
picks the king m Yeah, normally yeah,

561
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:29,519
usually a convicted murderer who was a
better story. Yeah cool, thanks

562
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:35,239
than the man who is broken,
this kid who's not progressed the plot at

563
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,280
all, not even the best part
of his story. No, there's a

564
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,320
better stories than the man who fell
out of the window. Everybody psychic,

565
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:46,440
every fourth dimensional being, that's the
He hasn't told anyone that though, So

566
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,840
I guess that's true. I think, whatever, we're not doing this.

567
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:57,159
Yeah. Uh So. Eventually the
rebellion fizzled out. The local inhabitants fought

568
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:00,400
back because I weren't really down with
Ali, and he just pieced fuck out

569
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,760
to Basra. Time to start a
new Yeah, it took a ship in

570
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,360
the night or whatever. I don't
know. In Basra around which these ons

571
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,639
were are, you know, working
in the city's right u and everything.

572
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,880
The city's rival groups were actually feuding. So Ali tried to take advantage of

573
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,719
the chaos and he declared a new
rebellion, but this time in Basra.

574
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,159
Okay, okay, I see his
plan. Is there ever a time in

575
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,920
history with the rival groups just kind
of kick it? I, you know,

576
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,159
there's probably it's like they typically always
feud. They do, and I

577
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,639
don't know rival part I don't know
why they're not more into like price fixing,

578
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,719
you know what I mean, like, well, what if we what

579
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,559
if we work together? Yeah?
Yeah, I mean I don't get why

580
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,960
not. But anyway, that is
also late in the game fixing, when

581
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:52,480
rivals start to price fix. Yeah. Yeah, So he declares a new

582
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,760
revolt, and I think not to
just reference the office, but it really

583
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,639
is just like an I declare bankruptcy
situation. I was about to say,

584
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:04,679
like the he just roll into Bozra
like, hey, y'all starting to revolt?

585
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,400
What's up? Kicks over a trash
can? He's like, it's on

586
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,400
guys, literally, Yeah, yeah, it kicks over a public trash can.

587
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,800
It's like we're revolting. Yeah,
everyone's like, who's this fuck it.

588
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,639
It's like all the fairy tale characters
going to Shrek schwamp. Yeah.

589
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,840
Yeah, and the problem is literally
no one joined. So he's one minute,

590
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,480
I get the fuck out of Basra. So that's it. Well,

591
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:31,679
he goes and he has to hide
in the marshes around the city because people

592
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,559
are hunting down this guy who tried
to declare a rebellion but no one joined.

593
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:38,239
Yeah, normally, get the you
get the funding first, you get

594
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,760
the backing. He was in.
He was a hype man. Yeah,

595
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,519
he's get ahead of yourself. I've
been I've been guilty of that before.

596
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:50,639
You're just really excited about something.
You just you're not thinking straight. You're

597
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:53,960
just just giddy with excitement for your
new idea, and everyone's like Then you

598
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,760
try it and everyone's like you're fucking
You're like, you like have an idea

599
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,599
for like a cool like web series
and you're already filming before the scripts finished.

600
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:04,239
I said, I talked about it
the whole time and I never followed

601
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,000
through it. Yeah, it's like, no, here's how it's gonna go,

602
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,760
and then it doesn't. Wolf A
Duke sketches for the Patreon. Fuck

603
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,840
you. I mean they're all great
ideas. We just have zero fucking time

604
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:21,599
in our lives, so describe to
our Patreon so we we could make more

605
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:28,760
time. He was captured shortly after, and I don't I don't really know

606
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,119
what life was like back then,
but look, I just imagine the vibes

607
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:37,159
to an extent are like modern day
Saudi Arabia, and I feel like anyone

608
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,159
who declared a rebellion there would not
easily get out of custody. No,

609
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,960
they're supporting an independent golf league.
Yeah that took big, big at the

610
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,239
time. Yeah. Uh they Yeah, they didn't conquer Scotland, but they

611
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,599
sort of have their fingerprints there.
He was somehow able to secure his release,

612
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,239
just talked his way out of it, I guess, and went to

613
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,119
Baghdad. In Baghdad, he lied
and claimed he was a Zaide Muslim,

614
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:09,079
which was a branch of Shia,
and that he was related to Zaid ibn

615
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:20,079
Ali, who was a famous Muslim
who notoriously uh died rebelling against the Umayed

616
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:22,800
Caliphate, so essentially a famous rebel. Yeah, he was like, that's

617
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,760
my fucking grandpa or whatever. He's
just going into town selling mona rails left

618
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,440
and right. Well literally it kind
of falls into that classic though. He

619
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,679
definitely is a SHII right because like
he is like, oh, I need

620
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:42,119
this bloodline confirmation to prove my case, and that's very yeah, which is

621
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:45,480
interesting. He's I mean, he
is a Shia Muslim I think, but

622
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:49,199
he's not really anything. No,
you know what I mean. He's he's

623
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,440
an opportunist, Yeah, that's it. But yeah, he's he's he's using

624
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:59,119
the mechanisms of recognition that are prevalent
in the I guess is the Caliphate that

625
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:01,320
is this thing right now? Shall
one? Yeah? Yeah, then he's

626
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,519
using the mechanisms that are required to
gain clout, ye, which he will.

627
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:09,960
Then again he's a grinder, take
it. He will take advantage of

628
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,239
those mechanisms soon in the future and
I'll get to that. So this gained

629
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:22,320
Ali some followers once again. In
eight sixty nine, Ali heard about the

630
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,559
factions in Basra futing, and he
decided to give it another go. Now

631
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:29,159
that he had some people who were
like this guy's tight. He's related to

632
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:35,559
that one guy. So that's something
he went back to Basra, perhaps the

633
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:40,239
arch manning effect. Yeah, perhaps
he was maybe quote unquote inspired, but

634
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,280
not at I have to assume,
not in an ultra ultruistic way at all.

635
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,320
By his time spent hiding in the
marshes, so he sought out the

636
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,480
zange, the African slaves. Uh. Specifically, he went about asking about

637
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:58,199
their working conditions and their nutritional standards, and he found out that both roughly

638
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:04,360
qualified as bad. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, he unionized the slaves.

639
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,119
Uh. No, he's just doing
investigative groundwork. You know, he's

640
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:10,239
just kind of sustening out, doing
a little recon seeing what the vibes.

641
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,079
He's vibe checking, you know,
he's like vibe checking. Yeah, Hey,

642
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,480
what's what's the vibe in this lawless
swamp that you guys do work in

643
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:21,360
for free? Like, what's it
like here? Oh? Is it bad?

644
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,400
Is bad? Bullshit? Guys?
Come on, you need some box

645
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,800
fans up in here. Let's go
listen. I'm against slavery, but I'm

646
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,239
also against the unions. This is
quite a picture. You don't know which

647
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,280
way the scales. What's the greater
evil? Right? Right? Yeah?

648
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,480
Who knows? God? I mean
collective bargaining. Who what is a union?

649
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:45,960
But you know, and slave driver
by committee. This man's just the

650
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:50,679
boss tweetie of his time. Who
do you want to be owned by one

651
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,599
guy or a group of people?
You know seen? You know? Yeah,

652
00:44:54,679 --> 00:45:04,840
so he began a campaign to uh
emancipate this and as soon as basically

653
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,360
a couple of them joined and I
think a couple might be waited A good

654
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,719
way to describe it, like a
handful huh no, just too yeah,

655
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:19,440
just too literally, too hand full
of them, Ali declared himself chief of

656
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,639
the zange. You know, homie, you're selling me on the conditions being

657
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:30,280
bad and immediately you're my boss,
like free you also, I'm your king?

658
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,199
Yeah? Whoa, all right,
he's just the weird kid in high

659
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:37,920
school in the corner with his two
pals doing whippets. Ali, I didn't

660
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,840
have any high school kids in the
corner doing whippets. I was thinking more

661
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,000
of the kids that like uh Narrudeau
run around you know, high school,

662
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:51,719
or like the two kids that are
playing like Power Rangers still and they're sixteen

663
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:58,880
years old, The kids that juggle
in the courtyard, the kids that exclusively

664
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,559
shop at Hot Topic for dragon ball
z gear. Okay, so they're not

665
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:07,079
actually email their like I respect they're
nerdy. Maybe there's a little dark added

666
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:10,840
a little darkness to them, but
yeah, a lot of trench coat wearing.

667
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,800
But you can't really be I don't
want to say depressed. Probably is

668
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,519
in the right word, but I
feel like dragon ball Z it sparks joy

669
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,440
it do you know what I mean? So it's like you can't I don't

670
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,280
know. Man, when you gotta
watch nineteen episodes to see Freezer die,

671
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,639
you kind of get sick of the
show. You know what I'm saying.

672
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,559
We're not We're not gonna take this. You're gonna feel that one Nona,

673
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,320
you can you can holster that take. Yeah, that's you. You liked

674
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,760
the nineteen episode arc of Freeza.
I'm not getting into it. But just

675
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,039
don't disrespect dragon ball Z. That's
awesome. I'm just saying it's a long

676
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,559
arc for I don't care. Yeah, I don't respect you or your opinion.

677
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:50,679
Okay, cool, Well let us
know in the comments. Uh.

678
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,199
He promised the Zange, I'll e
did freedom and wealth from their conquest.

679
00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:00,760
But it wasn't just the Zange who
joined quite a few people. This essentially

680
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:07,599
turned into class warfare very quickly.
Semi liberated slaves clients of prestigious families and

681
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:14,880
number of craftsmen and other sort of
like maybe less skilled laborers. Uh,

682
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,360
and then just some random peasants.
I guess that means probably farmers also Bedouin

683
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:22,639
people, So just sort of like
desert wanders, you know, nice fucking

684
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:29,440
herders and stuff like that, shepherds
that lived around Basra. They all joined

685
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,199
them. Okay, they were like
they were probably all in it for their

686
00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:37,519
own reasons to other than his Well, it's like the reason ones they were

687
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:40,079
bored. They were well also they
were poor. They were you going to

688
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:44,559
do as a desert wander. They
were poor, and they were just looking

689
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:46,719
for things to kind of fill your
time. Yeah, they were poor.

690
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,480
They were they didn't want to be
poor anymore. If we kill these people

691
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:53,039
will be rich. And finally someone
got to, you know, enough people

692
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:58,360
together do it. So part of
the reason all these other people joined in

693
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,559
the class warfarts like this is so
you were talking about it was like,

694
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,599
oh he was a she is So
he's using the methods of the way they

695
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:08,280
organize themselves, which is they talk
about bloodlines and inheritance. That's the important

696
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:15,360
ship mechanism of a cent or of
succession. Well, Ali started preaching what

697
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:21,880
the Karagites, another famous rebel group
from Islamic history, preached, which was

698
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:27,440
essentially, you know, fuck bloodlines. Anyone who's a good Muslim can be

699
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:30,559
caliph. Oh so he pulled a
Suni on him. Basically, yeah.

700
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,400
Uh, they were talking. They
were they were all about taking the best

701
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,199
man for the job. Their exact
quote on that was, in fact,

702
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,440
this is true. Uh, the
most qualified man should reign even if he

703
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:46,920
is a black slave. Oh that's
progressive, it's good for them. Yeah,

704
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,480
as long as he's a good Muslim. Did it turn out that he

705
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:53,320
would be the leader though? Who? Ali? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

706
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,280
so the most best man should be
king. And I'm the one who

707
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:00,639
I'm the one who suggested that.
That means I'm the best, means that

708
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,519
the rules right. Argue with me
about it, some guys like, yeah,

709
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:13,679
did you come up with the idea
I'm the benevolent king here? Okay,

710
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:20,559
I'm best boy? Uh so yeah, that really appealed to all these

711
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:28,119
people along with they promised wealth and
revenge and whatever else. It appealed to

712
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:30,719
the working class. And although I
will say the majority of his army,

713
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:36,480
I think as far as we know
what, we're still slaves. Uh.

714
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:40,480
Finally Ali had a winner. He
had a rebellion that was gonna stick.

715
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:46,639
Nice. He sold his monorail.
You love to see it. Everything else

716
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,320
just doesn't sound like he really got
it started. Look, it's like he's

717
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,760
kind of testing the waters. It's
like they say, with anything creative,

718
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,320
you know, just make it because
whatever you make first is gonna suck anyway.

719
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,559
So gotta make that first thing.
System keep creating, and eventually it'll

720
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:07,960
be good. Stack wins, Stack
wins. Yeah, yeah right, no

721
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:12,400
for real, I mean I hate
this guy. Though. We do have

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Check it out today. Oh he's
a piece of shit. Yeah,

864
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I don't understand what he's done wrong
so far. Well, I guess we'll

865
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,800
get to that. He has freed
the slaves. I mean he's organized them.

866
00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:28,239
See organizing I'm actually kind of confused
about this, like doing this guy

867
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,960
like, sir, sir, you're
all my property, talking to my property.

868
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,559
Get away from my slaves, all
right, I got all right,

869
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:40,519
I got security. I feel like
word would get out about this guy and

870
00:59:40,519 --> 00:59:44,320
you're like hanging out looking at your
slaves and you're like, oh, I'm

871
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:49,039
not this fucker again, like get
out, get like, don't don't be

872
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:52,480
spreading ideas, you know, don't
want you here. Yeah, no,

873
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:54,320
he just see somehow pull I mean, this guy's pulls shot out of his

874
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,480
ass, like over and over again. He's like Bagger Vance, just wandering

875
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,599
out of the marsh, like hey, yeah, if you calm down a

876
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:05,599
little and realize there's more of you
than them. Maybe even back then they

877
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:07,760
had like fifteen minutes smoked breaks,
like oh you know, I know they're

878
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:14,960
slaves, but they're entitled to their
fifteen minutes. Yeah. So, over

879
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:20,760
the course of the next fourteen years, Ali and his Zanja Army fought a

880
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,760
successful guerrilla war against arguably the most
powerful empire on Earth, and not just

881
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,280
that in the heart of its empire, not on the borders or anything like

882
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,960
that, in the fucking middle right
in the middle of it. Yeah,

883
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,199
yeah, no, not far from
back then. The eye of the hurricane,

884
01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:37,639
though, it's the softest. What
the eye of the hurricane is always

885
01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:40,599
the softest, you know. I
mean look, if you look, if

886
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:43,800
you play total war, you know, like all your armies are on the

887
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:46,079
fringes. Yeah, on the so
if a rebellion pops up in the middle,

888
01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:49,760
you know, like fuck, that's
gonna take like four turns to get

889
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,800
back. If you're expanding across a
bunch of different fronts, it's really hard

890
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,280
to fortify the middle. Yeah.
So first they built a city near the

891
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,519
marshes in Basra called Al Mukata or
Muktara. They rated towns and villages,

892
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:05,559
freed slaves. It just means Al's
town, Ali's town. Yeah. How

893
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,079
long did they take to just prop
up the city? Fourteen years? He

894
01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:13,920
just said, Well, they built
it pretty quick, and is our HQ.

895
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:16,519
Now. They raided towns and villages, took all their ship, freed

896
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:22,960
their slaves, They built forts to
control the territory they conquered. They even

897
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:25,159
constructed a navy to fight on the
rivers. Mostly. Okay, then he's

898
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:31,480
doing I mean that's solid craftsmanship as
far as like how to rebel. Yeah,

899
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:37,079
he gets fucking wrong, and of
course, because this is what he's

900
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:42,719
in it for. They minted their
own coins and collected taxes. Hell yeah,

901
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,440
now that's when. Al right,
guys, this is where the fun

902
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:52,079
really start. Paying yourself in your
own coins. You got allie bucks like

903
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:57,519
David buster Bucks. This is just
the plot the always Sunny where they makes

904
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,960
and like what, well, we
gave everybody the Patty Bucks and they paid

905
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:02,599
us, so we made no money. We actually lost money. Show where

906
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:07,199
was that the chib? And they
were talking about implementing some sort of NFT

907
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:15,159
coin whatever, things like how is
this every like, they're just like it's

908
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:20,280
and then an NFT person will explain
it to you and you're like, oh,

909
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,280
so, how is it not Patty
Bucks? And you just keep asking

910
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,840
that and then people stop trying to
bring it to you. There's nothing.

911
01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:28,320
I mean, we don't even get
into it because it is like the most

912
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,920
uh like token white guy podcasting and
talk about ever. But NFTs are just

913
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,719
like the funniest way anyone's lost money
in the last thirty years. It makes

914
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:43,800
the mortgages they were handing out in
two it's our generations time shares. Yeah,

915
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,760
definitely. You can visit a time
share. There is a tangible thing

916
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:53,320
for a week. It's more than
a fucking I'm sorry. You bought a

917
01:02:54,440 --> 01:03:00,559
knockoff board ape whatever thing like you
bought the Garo version of that and it

918
01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:04,519
gets I'm sure you buy the week. You don't. Actually you still have

919
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,000
to pay for the hotel and stuff
on top of it. I can still

920
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:12,119
visit it, you can still,
I can't. I can't interact. What

921
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:15,239
what is the kangaroo card? Get
me like, pay ten thousand dollars for

922
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:20,400
enough? I invest in old fashioned
trading cards. It's right now. You

923
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,679
do need that physical copy straight up? Oh yeah, which is just pa.

924
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:29,480
Yeah, my future rides on a
Michael Harris rookie card. Oh man,

925
01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:31,960
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that guy. Yeah, go Braves.

926
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:37,480
And he needs a World Series MVP
this year. Let's do it after

927
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:44,199
conquering. Oh and so they did
all this stuff. Then in September eight

928
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:49,960
seventy one, they sacked Basra.
Oh no, oh yeah, yeah good

929
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:54,760
they sacked a little tiny support dude. No, it's a major port city.

930
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:59,679
Yeah, it's like the most were
in the mark in the world.

931
01:04:00,199 --> 01:04:04,039
Yeah, how do you think they
got the slaves to the march the port.

932
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:10,920
I get it. Yeah. So
after conquering the city, Ali and

933
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:18,960
the Zang told its inhabitants, Okay, whoever wants amnesty, please get together

934
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:23,400
in the city palace and the public
squares so that we can grant it to

935
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,119
you. So everyone was like,
okay, fuck, we're conquered. Let's

936
01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:30,800
just go out do what they say, and you know, we'll grant us

937
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,480
amnesty. Instead, they murdered twenty
thousand people right there in the streets as

938
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:41,280
soon as they were all conveniently congregated
there. It was an absolute fucking blood

939
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,440
bath. Then they took every ounce
of treasure they could from the city.

940
01:04:44,519 --> 01:04:50,039
And just how they murder him that
quick knives, swords, fire blades.

941
01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:54,360
Think about it this way, though, for what it's worth, you're thinking,

942
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,519
I feel like you're picturing like five
hundred people killing twenty thousand people.

943
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,800
It's more like twenty thousand people killing
twenty thousand people. M okay, you

944
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,119
know what I mean, Or even
ten thousand people. You gotta stab two

945
01:05:06,119 --> 01:05:10,280
of them and one was a kid. It just seems like a lot of

946
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,159
congestion in the streets. Yeah,
I'm sure there was a lot of trampling

947
01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:15,400
that did some work too, you
know what I mean. It's like most

948
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,760
of the Civil War debt. There
were more Civil War desks from disease than

949
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:24,360
combat. That type of situation.
True, you can't give a disease your

950
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,239
handshake for the secret organization. Now, you know, you can't flash the

951
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,360
Masonic symbols at the at the polio. Yeah we oh shit, he's a

952
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:39,400
Mason. Well I'll shoot over his
head then, all right. This was

953
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:44,519
enough to finally shock the Empire,
the Caliphate into being like, oh they're

954
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:51,440
for real. Yeah. Still,
somehow it would take the Abbisides eight more

955
01:05:51,519 --> 01:05:56,360
years before they could get their ship
together enough to confront Ali and the Zang.

956
01:05:57,119 --> 01:06:00,960
Really, which is such a long, long fucking time. Like a

957
01:06:00,039 --> 01:06:03,079
lot of times, you think about
if you hear the years eighteen or I'm

958
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:06,599
sorry, eight sixty one and eight
sixty nine, or eight eight seventy one

959
01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:12,480
rather and eight seventy nine. If
you hear those years, they sound like

960
01:06:12,599 --> 01:06:17,079
Tuesday and Thursday. They're not.
It's yea so fucking long. Think about

961
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:20,360
how long the Obama administration was,
Yeah, think about how long he was

962
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,800
president. Think about well, I'm
just thinking moved at like a fucking snails

963
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,559
pace. It doesn't matter, though
you're giving a rebellion time to people established

964
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,360
experienced time the same way that eight
years a long time. Yeah, it's

965
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,000
a lot of time to settle,
Like to establish yourself in a spot,

966
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:40,480
takes a long time to travel,
not for them, not that long.

967
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,719
I get there very close. Yeah, I get all of what you're saying.

968
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,039
The thing is, though it's still
like and like you said, I

969
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:49,320
third, like forces are on the
outer rim having them come back. Yeah,

970
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,239
I guess there could be a lot, you know, to dance point

971
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:56,079
there, there could probably be a
lot of like the like determining which forces

972
01:06:56,159 --> 01:06:58,480
need to come back in order to
deal with it. You gotta get word

973
01:06:58,519 --> 01:07:00,880
to them. We do. We
let them ride for a little bit,

974
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,239
let them build some steam because we
need to finish this up. Then we

975
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,960
get to that. Like there's probably
there's a lot of diploma not diplomatic,

976
01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:12,119
think about how quickly things become normal
to you. So like at some point

977
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:14,760
people were like, oh, yeah, we live in the Zange Kingdom now,

978
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:15,559
or you know what I mean.
Like it's like they don't even that

979
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:20,000
I'm gonna part of that. Abbasid
California allowing for legitimacy procrastinated. They're like,

980
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:23,199
yeah, we'll get to it.
Well, they did have a lot

981
01:07:23,239 --> 01:07:25,199
of a lot of other ship going
on. I'll get to that in a

982
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:29,840
minute. But I mean it's I
don't know, it's like if if like

983
01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:33,800
because it's a major port city too, Like imagine someone just like takes over

984
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:39,119
Los Angeles and like the US government
can't even get the military there for eight

985
01:07:39,159 --> 01:07:45,840
years. That's yeah, that would
be insane. It's fucking crazy. It

986
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,920
would be like, I think relatively, be like if someone took over Los

987
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,960
Angeles and we weren't there within a
day. Yeah, yeah, there wasn't

988
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,039
a ff the division. If it
took like six months to get there,

989
01:07:56,039 --> 01:07:59,400
that would probably be the equivalent for
response time. Or I guess the Dark

990
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,599
Knight rises. I was always sitting
there, like how the funk? Oh

991
01:08:02,679 --> 01:08:06,760
yeah, now the criminals rule the
town, own a major the New York

992
01:08:08,039 --> 01:08:12,679
of this of this version of America. Yeah, at least Pittsburgh, right

993
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,719
like that that's where they shot that
one. Yeah, but like they own

994
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,279
this place now, and the National
Guard can't, like the full military can't

995
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:25,800
just suss out a couple of crazies, right, It's yeah, that's basically

996
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,600
what's going on here. Finally,
in eight seventy nine, it's really just

997
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:31,880
like I said the apisodes, the
whole thing was a total shit show.

998
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,199
They were still going through the imperial
ship, right, the potter of struggles,

999
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:39,319
and obviously they share borders with a
bunch of empires who they're fighting and

1000
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:44,039
stuff like that, including the Eastern
Roman Empire, who was still real fucking

1001
01:08:44,079 --> 01:08:47,439
legit at the time. In eight
seventy nine, the caliph and his son

1002
01:08:48,119 --> 01:08:53,760
were finally able to mount a campaign
against the zone. Over the next two

1003
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:58,039
years, finally facing a real organized
force, de Zangs were beaten back until

1004
01:08:58,039 --> 01:09:01,600
they were finally hold up in their
little fake capital city that they built south

1005
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:10,079
of Basra. Okay, things were
getting rough, and then a siege began

1006
01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:14,720
of that city during no During the
siege, the caliph told anyone who surrendered

1007
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,760
that they would be fully pardoned,
and they did this. They anyone who

1008
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,319
surrender came out and they would pardon
them within view of the city and then

1009
01:09:23,039 --> 01:09:25,960
they would let them go. They
were true, they weren't. They were

1010
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:30,079
like, yeah, you're good,
thanks for not fighting, thanks for surrendering.

1011
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,720
Go live your life. I'm just
looking at where Bazar is right now,

1012
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:40,119
just to understand it better. Okay, right there above kuwait yep,

1013
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:44,840
yeah, where it spills out.
Okay, interesting, Wow, Basra looks

1014
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,239
beautiful. Yes, it I mean, I don't know, it seems cool.

1015
01:09:49,039 --> 01:09:53,399
Never mind, no, no,
no, I'm good. So finally

1016
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,680
in it's a hotel. Let's see
what those rights are. Okay. Just

1017
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,000
that's give me enough. You know, you know I'm not going there.

1018
01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:01,079
I can get you a ho tell. I just want to see what a

1019
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:05,239
night stay is. Probably a lot
like Jackson, Mississippi. I don't think

1020
01:10:05,239 --> 01:10:11,000
you're going to the hotel bar.
Probably staying in your room, not leave

1021
01:10:11,079 --> 01:10:15,159
it very much. Yeah. Finally, in eighty three, the opposites breached

1022
01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:23,079
the defenses of the city and it
fell. Ali died fighting with his men

1023
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:28,159
in combat. They took his head
and displayed it in Baghdad. Rebellion was

1024
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:38,279
crushed, but it had so thoroughly
fucked up the opposite caliphate that they historians

1025
01:10:38,279 --> 01:10:42,720
think they never really recovered from this
dipshit. Yeah, oh no, that's

1026
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,880
why you snuff it out quick.
Yeah, they never really had the power

1027
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,880
they did. Again, that's so
terrible. That this man did you freed

1028
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,760
slaves? So yeah, okay,
Rob, it's kind of you're kind of

1029
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:59,399
showing your hand. This episode just
wasn't he did it because he wouldn't have

1030
01:10:59,399 --> 01:11:01,359
done it as it was like the
best way for him to get power.

1031
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,439
Sure, but I think the means
justify the ends. He did nothing really

1032
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,640
terrible or his ends justify the means. What do you mean he did nothing

1033
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,640
terrible? First off, his army
slaughtered twenty thousand innocent people. Listen,

1034
01:11:15,039 --> 01:11:18,359
you gotta crack a few eggs to
make a freedom of letter. He was

1035
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:23,880
only freeing slaves so you could carve
out a kingdom and then just make money

1036
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,920
off of it. But freedom wrong. Why did Dame Lincoln free the slaves?

1037
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:32,880
He didn't reap any benefits. Turns
out he didn't get to that's had

1038
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:38,039
blown off just like our boy Ali. Yeah, I guess so yeah,

1039
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:40,640
I mean, so you're talking about
the Abe Lincoln. Yea, the Middle

1040
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:44,399
East, like history doesn't know there
was still sleep slaves after that, history

1041
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,960
doesn't repeat it rhymes this man in
Abe Lincoln, same person Potato Potato,

1042
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:54,960
Tato potato, And this was like
his fourth rebellion, Tom bootin Hey you

1043
01:11:55,119 --> 01:11:58,640
got one. You got one.
Hey, that's more than most people get

1044
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,319
in successful rebellions. That was a
successful rebellion. If he was able to

1045
01:12:02,399 --> 01:12:08,680
one carve out and create a capital
and create a currency and tax people.

1046
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,039
Yeah, if he had a thing
going for eight years, he won did

1047
01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:15,840
Okay, he's probably chilling for those
eight years. Let me tell you what

1048
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:24,439
life was like under King Ali.
Fabulous sy I bet he didn't do much.

1049
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:28,600
That might be true. I bet
the reasons the problems happened is because

1050
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,239
he was kind of lazy after he
got power. Yeah, he rested on

1051
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:34,680
his laurels. Yeah, which makes
you bad, But anyway, I'll read

1052
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,560
you. This is from a historian
at the time as a contemporary writer.

1053
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:48,239
During Ali's rule in southern Iraq,
a large number of people this is imposo,

1054
01:12:48,359 --> 01:12:51,399
by the way, A large number
of people hit among the houses and

1055
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:56,479
in the wells. They appeared only
at night and hunted dogs, rats and

1056
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,199
cats. Then they ate the corpses
of their companions who had died, and

1057
01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:06,239
they watched each other waiting for someone
to die. The stronger killed their comrades

1058
01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:13,720
and devoured them. So essentially it
was fisted by mc slave owner. Fucking

1059
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,920
yeah, imperial propaganda. Yeah that's
Oh, and they have to eat dogs

1060
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:25,279
and you trug and only came out
at night. How can we so much

1061
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,000
terrible? We'll just say they're savage. It was so much better when they

1062
01:13:29,159 --> 01:13:31,000
lived under our wull and did get
no pay. I mean, it's a

1063
01:13:31,079 --> 01:13:38,520
historical fact basically that the zoand rebellion
killed in six six figs. How's he

1064
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,880
gonna have trade though? Hundreds of
thousands of people? Not his fault he

1065
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,439
can't open trade with the guys that
are surrounding in Yeah, it's actually literally

1066
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:50,479
his fault. Why won't they just
left the home killing them? It's just

1067
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,800
a bad locations, you know.
It's the first thing you got to think

1068
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,960
about when you're establishing a spot.
Are all my enemies surrounded me? Damn

1069
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,560
it? Yes? Not great?
Did I make enemies with all of them

1070
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:09,159
myself? Fuck? All right?
The killing? How do I get diplomatic

1071
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:14,119
foreign relations going? Yeah, we
can't, damn it. Uh. The

1072
01:14:14,199 --> 01:14:17,159
rebellion, like I said, killed
hundreds of thousands of people. Uh it

1073
01:14:17,319 --> 01:14:21,000
Also, now this isn't really a
well I don't care about this. This

1074
01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:25,640
this is it doesn't make it.
We're talking about the well being of the

1075
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,239
slaves, Like, I don't really
care about this. No ill of the

1076
01:14:28,279 --> 01:14:33,319
empire. They lost, they lost
today's they lost ground to all the empires

1077
01:14:33,319 --> 01:14:36,399
surrounding them, including the Eastern Roman
Empire. They all made gains against the

1078
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:43,079
Caliphate. This was to a lot
of people, including like some storians say,

1079
01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:46,479
it wasn't even really a slave revolt, it was like a class revolt.

1080
01:14:47,159 --> 01:14:53,039
They are. There's other people that
argue that there might not have been

1081
01:14:53,279 --> 01:14:58,159
that many slaves involved at although I
don't think that really hold water U.

1082
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:02,640
One of the reasons is that there
are still one and a half to two

1083
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:10,560
million Afro Iraqis who claim ze heritage
living today in and around Basra two.

1084
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:15,039
There's like two million black Iraqis.
That's pretty cool. Yeah, they're all

1085
01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:18,960
They still practice some of their sort
of African East African heritage and stuff like

1086
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,760
that, but they are all now
are like Muslimans speak Arabic. They don't

1087
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:27,159
speak Swahili or anything anymore. An
impression seems like his life might have mattered.

1088
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,760
The people that would have made the
impression in this case would have been

1089
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,880
the people owning that. Yeah.
Yeah, culturally, they probably forced a

1090
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,520
lot of that onto them. That
wasn't by like oh, Ali freed us,

1091
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,720
let's take up his ship, right. Yeah. It was more so

1092
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,920
like, hey, you're a property. You have to do this. You

1093
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,640
live here now, yeah, and
I have things to yell you. We

1094
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:48,399
don't have time for assimilation. Yeah
uh but yeah, that is the story

1095
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:57,960
of the Zane Rebellion. A humongous
world changing event that how did it change

1096
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,760
the world? It's it sent the
opposite the strongest empire at the time on

1097
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:08,920
a downward spiral. Okay, what
was the result of that? I guess

1098
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:14,239
what is the downstream effect here?
Like who takes just another caliphant and the

1099
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,720
reach gets limited? Things change hands
that this helps the rise of the Turks.

1100
01:16:19,239 --> 01:16:21,920
Okay, okay, I could see
that. So the Turks are able

1101
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,079
to start becoming the pre eminent power
within that region of the world. Yeah,

1102
01:16:26,079 --> 01:16:30,199
not immediately, but it's the start. It's the it's the it's the

1103
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:34,760
butterfly flap. They see that a
god can bleed fair. Yeah that's cool.

1104
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,680
I'm just curious because I want to
know it has Yeah, I mean

1105
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,359
it has like massive ripple effects.
But more important, like I said,

1106
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,159
no one's going to remember you.
This was a huge deal. At the

1107
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:47,439
time. This was I mean,
honestly, it got me thinking about how

1108
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:54,039
probably like it's a big deal to
us because we're Americans and all this stuff,

1109
01:16:54,079 --> 01:16:57,600
but you know, we're only one
hundred and sixty years removed from the

1110
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,439
US Civil War. People really can
to care about that in a thousand years,

1111
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,920
all right, I'm being serious,
we will print these shirts. No

1112
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:09,600
one will remember you. Yeah,
and it's just a it's just a face

1113
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,680
shot of no one. No,
it's just those are just words. No

1114
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:18,079
one will remember you, softwores or
dot com that shure it will be printed

1115
01:17:18,399 --> 01:17:23,960
within the next week. It's I
mean, yeah, this was fucking like,

1116
01:17:24,039 --> 01:17:26,880
this is the big It was such
a big deal in hundreds of thousands

1117
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,640
of lives, a slaver of old
like a civil war that that helped the

1118
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,560
quicken the rot of the most powerful
empire on earth arguably at the time.

1119
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:42,319
All this other shit you never even
heard of it. And not not because

1120
01:17:42,359 --> 01:17:45,159
it doesn't get enough lover anything.
That's because it's just so much shit happens

1121
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:48,520
and you and mostly it's just you
just don't care. You don't care about

1122
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:54,159
the reflection of like the education system, and it's not really a negative reflection.

1123
01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:58,479
It's just why waste your time on
this? Yeah? In America,

1124
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,960
like what why would this has zero
impact on our lives? But it kind

1125
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,000
of does in a weird way,
right, because if you don't have this

1126
01:18:05,079 --> 01:18:08,840
happened, then you don't have the
Turks take up and then you don't it

1127
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,960
doesn't lead to the Ottoman Empire,
and you don't have these regional conflicts that

1128
01:18:12,039 --> 01:18:15,000
lead to World War One, which
you know, it's it's downstream, right.

1129
01:18:15,039 --> 01:18:18,479
I'm not claiming that this needs to
be taught to American sixth graders in

1130
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,439
social studies, actually am, I'm
like, you gotta learn about this.

1131
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:27,439
This is how life works. It's
like so much shit happens, and it's

1132
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,920
and this is like a humongous event
and no one you don't know about it

1133
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,560
because no one's gonna remember you.
Well, I think it's really interesting the

1134
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:39,399
topic itself, not so much even
the rebellion aspect of it, but how

1135
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,520
prominent the East African slave trade was. We always hear everything from the scope

1136
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,640
of the Atlantic slave trade right right, the Indian Ocean sense because where we

1137
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,640
are, right, and that's what
you learn about. But I think not

1138
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:57,760
trying to make it excusable by any
stretch of the imagine. Where so we

1139
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,239
were fine, No, it's like
everyone was in on this. It wasn't

1140
01:19:00,279 --> 01:19:05,760
just Britain, it wasn't just America. Everyone even African kingdoms were in on

1141
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:10,000
the slave trade. In Africa,
everyone was slave slave trading. Check it

1142
01:19:10,039 --> 01:19:13,600
out. White people didn't invent colonialism, no, no, no, no

1143
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,800
they didn't. And also there were
a lot of white slaves in Africa.

1144
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:21,560
Like if you wandered off your colony
or your little stay place and you got

1145
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,920
caught by the slave traders. Within
Africa, there were plenty of Europeans that

1146
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:30,520
were sold into slavers span yard pretty
much. But it's just funny, be

1147
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:31,279
like I just read this, I'm
like, this has just had to just

1148
01:19:31,359 --> 01:19:36,800
like I mean, it affected viscerally
so many fucking lives. And now you're

1149
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:41,880
just like, you know, yeah, how many rebellions do you learn about

1150
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,239
in American history that are slave rebellions
that you remember? You don't really learn

1151
01:19:45,279 --> 01:19:50,479
about any slave rebellions in American history
A history, I mean like in American

1152
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:57,399
history classes for US history, like
the classes out but like hils, yeah,

1153
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,880
yeah, you learn about like the
slave rebellion and hate you learn learn

1154
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:05,520
about Tucson. It's shades rebellion,
even a slave rebellion, though who shase

1155
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:11,199
rebellion. I'm just saying, like, why would this be on our radar

1156
01:20:11,319 --> 01:20:15,279
when we barely care about our own
the answers coming out, I don't think

1157
01:20:15,279 --> 01:20:18,000
it's on anyone's radar. And he's
saying that's incredible because it did have a

1158
01:20:18,079 --> 01:20:23,119
huge effect on global power. I
bet they know about this in the Middle

1159
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:27,079
East a little bit. I don't
think they do. I really don't.

1160
01:20:27,159 --> 01:20:28,720
It's not like I see this and
I'm like, oh, no, one

1161
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,079
told them stuff up Middle Eastern history. I think this is a footnote,

1162
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,039
okay, if at best, and
by the way, that might also be

1163
01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:40,039
by designing in the Middle East,
Like, yeah, I don't even know

1164
01:20:40,039 --> 01:20:43,039
what kind of history they teach over
there, but by the way, like

1165
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:49,479
even look at look at it from
the point of view of they probably not

1166
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,399
even if they teach roughly history roughly
the same way, which they don't,

1167
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:58,560
let's just say they do. Like
think about how little Americans know about American

1168
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,279
history, right, So why would
a a Muslim in the Middle East have

1169
01:21:02,359 --> 01:21:06,960
a knowledge of what is definitely not
a top ten event in terms of like

1170
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:13,640
what they consider significant. I know, just play the hits. Did play

1171
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,920
the hits, Play the hits.
He's the things that got us here the

1172
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,039
quickest. Yeah. Yeah, so
that's all I got for that. What'd

1173
01:21:18,039 --> 01:21:23,800
you guys learn? I learn that
you don't like slave rebellions? Yeah,

1174
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,439
you just have this grudge against this
man. I was just trying to free

1175
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:30,520
the slaves. He wasn't trying to
free the slaves. He would have killed

1176
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,560
every last one of them if it's
reasons or sweet tax money, just because

1177
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:39,880
they weren't pure. Okay, they
weren't a pure enough reason for you,

1178
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,720
he still tried to do it.
Yeah. It's kind of one of those

1179
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,479
things though, where it's like what
Rob is saying is the means at which

1180
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:51,760
he was getting what he wanted weren't
altruistic. They were opportunistic, right,

1181
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:58,039
but they never are man. Yeah, Okay, even keeping that in mind,

1182
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,199
like even with the most pess mystic
point of view, this dude didn't

1183
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:06,319
give a fuck about freeing slaves.
In fact, he had his own slaves.

1184
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,239
Well that's a twist, you know
what I mean, Like he was

1185
01:22:11,279 --> 01:22:15,720
conquering people and enslaving them, but
he was he enslaving the masters, then

1186
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,279
it's okay. It seems like a
blancln. He didn't give a fuck about

1187
01:22:17,279 --> 01:22:21,119
freeing the slaves, like he did
not really he would have not done it

1188
01:22:21,159 --> 01:22:25,439
if it meant keeping the country together
because that was his first job. But

1189
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,600
he was like, I do want
to free these people. This guy was

1190
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,800
like, yeah, whatever helps me. Yeah, that's just being human,

1191
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:38,600
bro. I guess who's today's Hyler
Rob. Yeah, I know you're saying,

1192
01:22:39,239 --> 01:22:44,520
probably the people that brought the slaves
there in the first place and treated

1193
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,840
them like shit enough to join what's
his fucking and started rebellion like me,

1194
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,680
you'll take I don't blame the slaves, like, fuck it, you're gonna

1195
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:56,479
free us. Yeah, yeah,
we get to kill them. Yeah,

1196
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,640
all for it? That makes sense. Yeah, I like the Zane or

1197
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,920
the winners here, they're the aunt
Taylor. I mean, you know,

1198
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:10,239
they lost and then we're enslave again. No, today's Hitler's Mississippi. It's

1199
01:23:10,279 --> 01:23:15,560
Alabama white sauce. M Yeah,
gross, it's okay, it's fine,

1200
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,039
stupid and dumb chicken. Well that
is is all I got for today again.

1201
01:23:19,319 --> 01:23:25,840
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1202
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:30,720
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1203
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,239
I'm serious, I will. I'll
make that shirt. It's an easy

1204
01:23:33,239 --> 01:23:35,520
to design. Oh, you'll design
the shirt. I'll send it to you.

1205
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,439
We'll put it up. Yeah,
I missed the white star line.

1206
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,199
Sorry, you better put it up. Yeah, sorry, this is it

1207
01:23:42,279 --> 01:23:45,279
too late for white Star line and
probably yeah, we're not making that.

1208
01:23:45,239 --> 01:23:47,520
Uh man, I can't read this
whole one, but it says the best

1209
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:53,439
factual history with the most in something
I don't know. Uh, it says

1210
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,760
what the user is? What the
hell did I waste money on the review?

1211
01:23:57,199 --> 01:24:00,680
A Guido, a jew and an
altar boy walk in a studio.

1212
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:05,159
The rest is history. And then
Grafton hutchins, I'm not Italian, that's

1213
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:09,399
a real name or not. Yeah, but you your vibe is you're very

1214
01:24:09,399 --> 01:24:15,000
GTL. Yeah, like incredibly Guido. He titled it educational and then,

1215
01:24:15,039 --> 01:24:17,840
like a bastard, gave us four
stars. Don't give us four stars?

1216
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,920
All right, I know it's a
funny joker. We're doing it now because

1217
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,720
he keeps you keeps doing this,
all right, Well, it's gonna drop

1218
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,520
our rating, so please don't we
have a four point nine out of five.

1219
01:24:27,079 --> 01:24:29,920
It's like an uber all right,
Yeah, but it's kind of cooler

1220
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,039
to have four point nine starts set
of five feels real. Yeah, five

1221
01:24:32,119 --> 01:24:35,479
seems way fake. It's fake as
fuck. Yeah, he says educational.

1222
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:40,239
This is so much more educational than
that football coach who also happened to be

1223
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:43,920
a history teacher we all had in
high school. And then try jose at

1224
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,600
thirteen said that bad catalog though them
tricks ain't for kids. A yeah,

1225
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,880
they aren't. Try like the one
underneath, if we haven't already done it?

1226
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:56,479
What the next one? Great show? I think so great. It's

1227
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,399
from Stoner Einstein. Great show.
I think there's some history, but who

1228
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:00,840
cares. There's an if witty banter
to keep you entertained. Perfect if you

1229
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:05,079
want to learn a little without sitting
in a lecture. Boom, goddamn right,

1230
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:09,319
you didn't know about zond rebellion before, right, fucking though probably not

1231
01:25:10,079 --> 01:25:15,000
Boom, I sure didn't for Dan
Rochester and Jake Goldbin, I'm rob Fox.

1232
01:25:15,079 --> 01:25:15,199
You just got sauce served