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It's time for coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Holy crap, I don't know who
the hell we think we are get

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off our show, idiot. The
kids are playing or turning off. The

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countries are screwing it up. Gold
Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play

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Inner Murals. They're supposed to be
mature adults, but they're really not.

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Who's the kid here? Who's the
kid here? Are you kidding me?

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Now? Here's Nick coffee? As
we get the party started here on a

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Monday afternoon, I kind of feel
like we are picking up exactly where we

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left off on Friday. It's the
first it's the start of our first full

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week with both sides of the rivalry
feeling refreshed. New era. Obviously,

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Pat Kelsey's been here for a few
weeks now, I guess coming up on

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a few weeks. And Mark Pope
hired late last week at Kentucky and then

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it was made official yesterday where he
sold out without way. Not really a

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seller, they didn't have to sell
tickets, but the amount of people who

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showed up for that press conference,
I really can't believe it. Like Kentucky

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fans, I mean, sometimes you
know, they're kind of the worst,

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and that's you know, that's just
the way you're supposed to see it in

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the rivalry. I mean, I
don't mean that personally. I have a

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lot of close friends and family that
are Kentucky fans, but I did not

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expect that at all. What'd you
think of it, John, I'd like

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to say I'm surprised, but I'm
not. It's Kentucky and they, like

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you say it all the time,
They're everywhere, and especially here in the

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Commonwealth, and they're gonna show out
for one of their own, even if

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they are underwhelmed by the hire.
Initially exactly and that's what I guess surprised

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me because we all knew and loul
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I mean, yesterday felt like just
another reminder that these two programs just the

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exact same situation happened. A lot
of bigger names being mentioned for the job

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for different reasons never really played out
that way, and they ended up hiring

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a guy that with part with Mark
Pope. I think not only was the

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noise about fans being just you know, depressed and just sad because they were

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hiring Mark Pope, and that's the
guy. Clearly, there's a lot of

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Kentucky fans. I think they have
one of the biggest fan bases you'll find,

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so it got more attention because of
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the level of their you know,
just melting down was crazy. Lois Well,

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let's be real. I mean,
I'm somebody that you know always said

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I liked Pat Kelsey any time his
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I never thought he would be in
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think Kentucky fans would say the same
thing about Mark Pope, mostly just because

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they know him, because he played
there with Pat Kelsey. I've just been

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familiar with him. I know people
think a lot, you know, you

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think people have always thought really highly
of him in college basketball world. Of

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course, he has his connection to
to Chris Max, So I always liked

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him. I just never thought that
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A coach that had, you know, has only been sort of at the

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mid major level. But you know, I think we felt and trust me,

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I'm not like doing the comparison as
far as you know, this is

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not a comparison as far as who
melted down the worst and is going to

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have to eat crow. Because here's
one thing I know, and I think

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everybody listening knows this. None of
us are gonna be able to say we

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knew all along, like this is
the guy we wanted, like because I

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don't think there's anybody that really pushed
for this. I'm sure you could maybe

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find a few people within each side
of the fan bases, but Pat Kelsey

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was not a name that many people
were pushing to be the guy, even

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at the very end. And Mark
Pope was somebody that I truly don't think

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Kentucky fans could actually believe that he
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because you know, they're Kentucky and
now both coaches have been hired, and

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both fan bases are ready to roll. None of us know what's gonna happen

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on either side, but just having
something new, something fresh, is exciting

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and it's a lot to keep up
with. I'm just going to tell you

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that because I feel like we need
like a secondary show, like a different

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show, just to keep up with
the roster. As far as Louisville,

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for sure, given the fact that
they've had a handful of visitors over the

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last few days, still have more
this week. They still have ten scholarships

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to fill. So it's exciting,
and it gives you the chance to put

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together a really good team. I
mean, you know, I don't want

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to set expectations too high, but
when you have the nil bag, as

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they say, a lot of scholarships
to use, you know, at Louisville,

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you are a primetime program despite how
bad you've been the last couple of

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years. And from what I can
tell, the guy selling this program,

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Pat Kelsey, seems to be a
really, really good salesman. So it's

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exciting. But I'm just going to
tell you I have a hard time keeping

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up with a lot of it,
but I'll do my best to share what's

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out there. Some of you probably
already know. Some of you probably have

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more time on your hands to keep
up with it. But it's exciting.

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No doubt. Kentucky's gonna go through
the same thing. I know today they're

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they they've got guys entering the portal
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I just don't know a whole lot
about which transfers they are going after.

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But uh yeah, both team's gonna
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the era has essentially started. But
you know, again, I think we're

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picking up kind of where we left
off on Friday. And again, make

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no mistake about it, we all
are gon. We're gonna always go back

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and forth and you know, jab
each other. That's what rivals do.

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However, I will say that anybody
trying to claim that you know, no,

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you guys didn't want your coach.
We wanted ours, like I think

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we the process of how this all
played out to where we are right now

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feeling good about the new era and
the fresh start. It was a roller

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coaster, but it's gonna be fun, I can tell you that. All

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right. Welcome in everybody, Monday
Edition. Coffee and Company. Philbeth Thornton's

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here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
My name is Nick Coffee, the company

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made John alongside today. Hopefully you
guys had yourselves a good weekend. I

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mean, the weather was phenomenal.
I mean just a beautiful, beautiful weekend.

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Saturday was opening day for I think
a lot of the little league's around

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town baseball for the kiddos, and
my daughter is starting her second season in

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the Miracle League, which is a
really cool league that's over at Fern Creek

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Park where they have it's for special
needs kids, and they've got a surface

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out there on the field where you
can have wheelchairs and it doesn't you know,

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damage the field and all that.
So it is just it is so

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much fun. Even if you don't
have a connection to the league or anything,

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I think you would enjoy seeing just
how they champion all of these special

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needs kids. They've got an announcer
John, they've got walk up music,

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they hype them up. They've got
their picture on the big scoreboard back there,

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like not just their name, but
like a picture of them. It's

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so cool. Yeah, they are
it is. It is awesome. So

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the Diamondbacks that's that's who Maya's that's
Maya's team this year. So that was

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such a good event. I call
it an event. I mean it's competition

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out there playing ball. So it
was awesome. And then just again,

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like I'm somebody that you know usually
gets a little bit of that wee well,

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it's not a little weird, it's
very weird. Seasonal depression is a

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real thing. But I'm a sicko
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When it gets warm outside again,
I'm I'm I'm I'm not well.

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Uh, but I don't know.
I'm growing out of it, I guess

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because this weekend being outside doing stuff. I mean I was outside all day

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yesterday, uh, doing stuff with
the kids, a little yard work,

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cleaned out the car, played some
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Oh yeah, I mean I feel
like I feel like a dad what I

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feel like, which I am.
You know, I'm happy to be.

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But that's that's like's that that's now
my brand, you know, initially when

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I first when I had my first
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I mean I got baseball for both
kids on Saturday because Moosey was playing

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in his T ball league, So
like got a game tonight at six o'clock.

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So I mean, it's it's the
dad life. It's uh, it's

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the life I live now. But
uh, good, good, good weekend,

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no doubt. It feels like with
ring, feeling like it's here.

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You know, Derby's just around the
corner. So the vibes are strong right

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now. And today it's legitimately like
hot outside. I'm not complaining because you

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know, I'm sitting inside where it's
nice and cool, and yes, the

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air conditioning is working great in here. Is very worried today because today today's

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a big test for it, right
today, because it's not just like warmer,

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it's hot outside. Usually the first
day when we're testing the air conditioner,

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it can be a little rough.
Yeah, so it's set on seventy

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but it's at seventy two, which
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going to touch anything. And you
know, if it can handle nearly ninety

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degrees, then we should be in
good shape of the summer. But you

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know, we shall see. So
there's a lot we're going to get into

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today. I promise you that it's
a little bit of an overwhelming Monday for

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me because, you know, just
reel and off names of dudes we've never

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heard of that are in the portal, Like I don't think that's fun,

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but it's also just you know,
random name from random school. Like they

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may not be they may not be
exciting, but it's exciting to see these

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rosters come together. So Louisville just
had a handful visitors over the weekend and

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they'll have many more this week.
And I'll try my best to you know,

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to share again the info that I
do have. And then I think,

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when you think of visitors right now. I think a lot of us

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have just assumed that was going to
be nothing. But guys that are transferring,

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Well, this news dropped last night
from twenty four to seven Sports.

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I believe it was Travis So Travis
Brandam who put this out there. I'm

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sorry, No, it was Eric
Bossei of twenty four to seven sports who

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broke the story that five star McDonald's
all American Jaden quantans am. I saying

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that, right, there's no way
they just think it's quaints quaintance that makes

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more sense. So quaintance makes way
more sense. And that looks as if

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how it should. But I just
I was typing it out earlier today when

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I was tweeting, and I kept
there's obviously not an auto correct for that,

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because that's not you know, that's
a real Yeah, it's somebody's unique

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name. But I kept butchering it
like I'll be like, oh, here

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we go, it's q U A
A n CE and then I put an

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a n c H And I just
so I was overthinking, Yes, a

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quaintance that makes total sense. But
he is a five star kid, top

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ten consensus player. He is just
sixteen years old. Is not going to

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be eligible for the NBA Draft until
twenty twenty six. He reclassified into twenty

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twenty four and signed with Kentucky in
November. And you know, this is

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a guy that is elite. You
know, he jumped up from twenty twenty

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four to twenty twenty I'm sorry,
from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty four,

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and it did not move his ranking
at all. He stayed a top

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ten player. He's the number two
big in the country. And I mean,

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I have no clue if Louisville's just
getting like a courtesy visit what their

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chances are. But I feel like
this is kind of a statement. And

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I know, getting a guy on
campus really means nothing in the grand scheme

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of things if they don't end up
choosing to play there. But this is

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a guy, meaning Pat Kelsey,
who had never been able to recruit at

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the level before, right, that
had never been able I mean, and

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I don't mean because he was bad
at it. I mean because he was

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at Winthrop and Charleston. Let's just
be honest here. So you know,

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with that said, I wouldn't be
shocked if you know, him being able

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to you know, work the phones
and sell who he is, what he's

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all about, how he's going to
run this program. Wouldn't shock me if

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that led to this kid saying,
you know what, I'm wide open.

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Don't have much familiarity with Louisville,
but let's give it a visit. Let's

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see what happened. Let's let's go
check it out. I heard you guys

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got the bag. Let me ask
you this. I need you to help

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me. John. When I say
the bag, do I sound like a

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douchebag? I don't think it sounds
douchey. You'd be honest with me,

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right, I'm dead serious? Okay, because that's now like the that's when

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I hear people talking recruiting, like
people who actually, you know, that's

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their job, that's their work.
Like it's not necessarily in the uh in

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the write ups that you see at
rivals in twenty four to seven sports,

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but you know podcast video clips,
interviews with recruiting analysts that go on shows

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that when they talk in IL they
now say the bag. But I feel

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like I'm way too old and not
cool enough to say that. So can

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we say are you giving me the
pass? I'm giving you the po Okay,

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I may say it cause that's what's
going to like. That's all that.

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Let's just be real. That's now
a factor when it comes to recruiting

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players, whether it be high school
kids or transfers. If you have the

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perception that you have the bag and
you can deliver said bag, that is

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going to help you. Now you
need to do some other things as well.

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But like Pat Kelsey, you know, we'll see. I don't want

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to act as if the kids already
decided to come to Louisville, but I

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do think one of the early signs
about one of the first things I heard

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about Pat Kelsey whenever you know,
everybody was melting down about him being the

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guy myself included was that you know, obviously he's a mid major guy,

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and you never know how it's going
to work out. He's not a big

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name within college basketball, but people
really like him, and of all the

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mid major guys that it looks like
Louisville was considering, he is somebody that

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should be able to utilize those tools, those resources and really crush it.

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that is that's a big that's a
that's a good sign. I should say

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now there is somewhat of a connection
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I feel like two three times on
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here. But one of one of
Pat Kelsey's top assistants who followed him from

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Charleston. I believe, I believe
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year. I think it was just
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an assistant coach. He was one
of the four that was officially announced last

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week. Prior to him going to
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he was at Word of God Academy, and that is where Jaden quantaints.

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Is that right? Acquaintance God,
I'm gonna screw it up every time we'll

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get there. I'm overthinking it now, John, I'm over and I'm not

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yelling at John's not his fault,
but like acquaintance, right, like acquaintance

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about the first part perfect, I'm
not kidding you, man, I'm in

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my head, not just about this
young man, but about the whole name

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thing. I think you were gone. You were on vacation when it got

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brought up again. Like I went
from being relatively like I felt like I

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was very strong in regards to remembering
names, Like I put myself up against

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many to say no, I'll probably
have a better I'm probably better remembering names.

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And it's not like anything that did
anything for me. But now I

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don't remember anybody's name at all.
What's your name again? The company man?

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That's what we call you. You're
John right, company man? Yeah,

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So I mean I'm overthinking it.
But anyways, he played at Word

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of God Christian Academy, and I
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many many years because a lot of
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they move around from different prep schools, but you know that connection surely

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is some level of a factor in
how you get this five star top ten

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unanimous five star kid that I assume
everybody would want to get him to come

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to school for a visit. And
he's gonna visit, by the way,

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on Thursday. So look, I
don't want to get everybody's hopes up.

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I mean, I'm trying not to
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be able to swim in these waters
and it be with the guy that you

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know, Like for example, if
Kenny Payin was to get a certain recruit

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to visit, you know, you
know, at the end, it would

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have been clearly just a you know, a desperation attempt to try to make

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it look like he's actually recruiting,
even like he knew none of those kids

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that were gonna visit, we're ever
gonna come to Lois. But he was

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just doing whatever he could to make
it look like he was working. But

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we know he has like connections,
like he's Kenny Payne was the top recruiter

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for John Kellaperi for many years.
So it's not to say that it wouldn't

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be like something like Okay, okay, there's a momentum here. But you

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know with Pat Kelsey, you know
this is this is new to him.

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I'm sure they recruited these guys,
you know, before they became five stars.

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That made it quite clear they're only
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But to give you the old corny
saying that you hear from coaches, whenever

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they take a jump up from one
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a different logo on the polo,
right, they're selling something different. So

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I mean I saw that yesterday and
I you know, I'll admit the first

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thing I did was look and make
sure that like it was a real account,

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and sure enough it is. So
again, there's been some visitors that

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were here over the weekend for Louisville. There'll be more visitors this week,

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and we'll give you the latest on
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Monday afternoon. Also, I mean, how about Kel's just shining this weekend.

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He was out of the football field
fielding punts. He caught a kickoff

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I think it was behind the back, which I don't know if that does

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anything for him as a basketball coach. I'm sure it doesn't, but it

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looked kind of cool. I don't
know many people that I know I couldn't

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do that. And then he goes
out and throws at the first pitch on

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Saturday, looked good doing it.
He's he is somebody that has only been

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on the job two weeks and some
change here. But it does seem as

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if he really he's not leaning into
it, he's embracing it. And what

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I mean by that is when I
say leaning into it, it's like you

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know, you're you're kind of really
having to overcompensate because cause you know,

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you just know that that's what they
want. I think he loves this now

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will he love it whenever things maybe
aren't going well and they lose a few

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games, which they're going to Hopefully
we won't completely turn into lunatics, but

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we know that we can. But
I think for the most part, he

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seems like someone that will will embrace
that is best anybody could. I mean,

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if it just turns into where everybody's
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that probably would weigh on somebody.
But either way, it's his job and

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that's what this job is. And
then we've always known that. But the

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way it's played out recently, with
the way it ended with Mac and then

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with Kenny being exactly the opposite of
what you thought you were getting, I

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think we all know now that,
hey, we need a coach that's going

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to be really embracing that You're not
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you are somebody that I mean,
I guess you are a basketball coach,

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but the position, I mean,
there's more to it than just coaching basketball.

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And again, I think so far
he looks like not only is he

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somebody that can really excel in that
area, but he looks like somebody that

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you know, loves it all right, So back to the Kentucky press conference

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yesterday. When I asked you if
you were surprised by the amount of like

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people that showed up there, I
think the fact that and this is crazy,

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but if it was Scott Drew or
maybe even Dan Hurley, would there

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be that many people? I think
definitely with Dan Hurley, not with Drew

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though, right, yeah, just
because you don't have because he's boring.

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He's the alumni factor. He's the
missionary man. Yeah, you know what

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I'm saying, like that missionary man. And Mark Prope maybe too, but

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he's a former player. People gonna
call missionary Mark, missionary Mark. But

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look, I'll admit it. He
killed that yesterday like he was. He

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was playing all the hits, hitting
all the notes. And that's not a

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tall task. That's not necessarily something
that you know. I mean, that's

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really just showing up and at least
giving the perception that you're competent to know

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what the job is. But I
felt a little envy yesterday from Kentucky for

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one reason. And it's not because
I wish LOUISVI would have hired Mark Pope,

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trust me, because I love the
way things are going with Pat Kelsey

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and I kind of like having a
guy that you know understands that he was

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in the top choice and nobody really
would have thought he'd be in this position

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because I think it's going to make
him hungrier and work harder than you know,

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anybody else. But what they got
yesterday with Mark Pote was what I

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think, Well, Kenny Payne was
never gonna do that because Kenny Paine had

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been I think the situation was just
different. Kenny'd been in Kentucky, Kenny

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hadn't been a head coach before.
But what he did is he ignited Mark

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Pope, meaning he ignited an era
of Kentucky basketball that wasn't forgotten. I

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mean, everybody knows how phenomenal they
were in the nineties, right, I

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mean, they won two national championships
in three years, and I actually think

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the team in ninety seven was their
best team, to be honest with you,

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So nobody forgets that era, but
it just really wasn't in any way

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a part of the Kentucky basketball brand
currently, and I'm not really sure you

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know how. I mean, you
can do some like maybe they bring back

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the Denham jerseys this year. They're
certainly going to do some things that play

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into that era where their coach was
a part of it, and they'd be

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foolish not to. But he said
all the right things, showed some personality

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that I didn't really know that he
has did the self deprecating thing, and

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I think that that works. Pat
Kelsey did the same thing. Self deprecating

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is in John. If you ever
just want to own the room, to

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start insulting yourself to people and doing
it in a clever way and they'll just

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be like, this guy's great,
I've tried. Well, then that that

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explains why you, explains why you're
the rock star and everybody loves you,

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so you can just make fun of
yourself. Let's way. I guess I

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need to do better at that too. But he did all of that,

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but it seemed really genuine and it
I'm I assuming it was because he played

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there like he was part of it. And I don't want to relive anything

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from the Kenny Payne era at all, but I was a little jealous because

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the way in which those two guys
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And we were still so intoxicated by
Denny showing up at the airport to greet

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Kenny Payne when he walked off the
plane like that picture that visual alone.

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Kenny Payne could have came up there
and farted in the microphone and we just

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said, hell, yeah, he's
one of us. We're back, like

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because you're just riding that moment.
But like, Kenny didn't really say anything

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that conveyed any real like I mean, I don't think you say anything wrong

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at that time, But Kenny didn't
get this fan base. Kenny didn't Kenny

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doesn't didn't view Louisville basketball the way
that everybody else does. I don't know

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why. I'll never understand why.
I mean, at the end of the

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day, I said this a lot
towards the end, I was a broken

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record. That stuff matters, man, It's how we became so lifeless.

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We didn't win, But man,
this guy didn't act like he ever wanted

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to be our coach. He didn't
own I mean, he just he did

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the bare minimum. And that that's
sad because you never want that. But

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if a guy did that, and
it was believe like if Kinney Payne was

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around here really just you know everywhere
in the community, you know, talking

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about former eras of Louisville basketball and
just you know, like seeming like like

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Jeff Brahm does. Honestly, like
it would have It would have been nice,

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it'd have made us feel good.
But at the end of the day,

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none of it matters, because if
he won twelve games in two years,

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it wouldn't matter if he was the
best in that role as far as

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just embracing the fan base understanding what
comes with the job, you still would

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have had to move on from him, and in fact, it would have

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made it even harder, right if
he became this really likable guy. But

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I could sense how cool that was
for Kentucky fans, especially those of my

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age, because you know, Mark
Pope played whenever I was just coming around,

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like like probably right around the time
I got into the rivalry when I

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was, you know, sick seven
years old, and he wasn't a notable

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guy, like, he wasn't somebody
that like. I mean, when I

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think of those Kentucky teams, I
think of Ron Mercer, Antoine Walker,

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Derek Anderson, Tony Delk, Scott
Paget, Jeff Shephard, those guys just

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because you know, those teams were
rock stars. I remember Poe, but

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you know, not a whole lot. So when each of these fan bases

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found out who was being hired at
that time, we went nuclear and now

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here we are and none of us
know if it's gonna work out or not,

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but there's there's just something exciting about
being able to collectively reunite as a

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fan base and just say, look, this is the guy, let's support

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it. Let's go, let's go
see what happens. All right, quick

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break, we'll come back on the
other side. Don't go anywhere. It's

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coffee and Company and we are Fieldbeuth
Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety

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all right. Just to be clear, when I mentioned that no side of

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the rivalry, the two sides,
of course Louisville and Kentucky fans like none

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of us will be able to collec
that, well, hey, we always

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wanted our guy to be the coach, and you all didn't. I'm not

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saying that we like. I'm not
saying that's not me trying to like pick.

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I mean, I was a Louisville
fan that just never ever thought that

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that would be the route that Josh
Hurd would take, just given the circumstances

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of the higher I'm just saying,
like, you know, when we're gonna

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go back and forth, which we're
clearly going to do, is what we

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do. Like that that should just
be something that we put away because neither

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side can win. I mean,
we're both losers in that regard, but

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it's okay, it doesn't matter.
The reason we act like that is because

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we care so much, and the
two dudes that were hired, we have

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no clue they're going to be good
enough to get Louisville back to where they

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belong. And for Kentucky, I
guess, you know, I guess the

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same can be said, but obviously
circumstances are a little bit different. So

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it's just the fear. It's I
guess it's panic, you know, because

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we care so much. It's really
not about this guy or that guy being

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lousy coaches. It's just put it
this way already, seem like enough of

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the infighting within like each of the
fan bases. You know, John was

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just sharing a story with me.
I've seen it. You know, hell

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could happen with me, Like I'm
somebody that did not think Pat Kelcey should

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be hired now because I think he's
a terrible coach, But just I just

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felt like Louisville wouldn't go that go
that path with mid Major, So like

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just it it's it's just I don't
know, like I think everybody, maybe

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not every single person, but nearly
most, especially those that are passionate about

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it, that you know that dip
into too radio shows like this and are

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active on social media, even those
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Like I think everybody on both sides
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era that that's in Lexington and in
Louisville and hoping that it works out all

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So a quick update from over the
weekend as far as visitors for Pat

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Kelsey. We'll start with those that
have recently visited, and that is Maddox,

406
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the kid from Toledo who felt really
good about him. But I kind

407
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of feel like if he was going
to commit the Loisvill he already would have.

408
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.720
But you know, maybe maybe it's
happening in any moment. There was

409
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:30.839
some some rumors out there that he
was potentially going to be commit. You

410
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.039
know, he was kind of already
committed, like a silent committee was going

411
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.880
to maybe make it public whenever he
was on campus for a visit. But

412
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.440
he did when I gather, have
a good visit. And now he's visiting

413
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.519
Illinois, so he is from the
Chicago area, I believe, so maybe

414
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:51.559
that gives them the advantage. But
they just picked up a transfer Illinois did

415
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:52.599
I'm not sure exactly who it was, but I know it was somebody that

416
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:57.039
also was a guard. So you
know, maybe Maddox is a guy that

417
00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:00.480
will end up elsewhere. But and
he's a good player. I'd love for

418
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.839
them to get him. But what
I like seeing here is that you've got

419
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:10.440
updated rankings from ESPN, and I'm
sure you can find a bit on three

420
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.920
Sports, twenty four to seven sports, all that stuff, but they're the

421
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:15.799
guys who are the best available players
in the portal as of right now.

422
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.559
You know, obviously Maddox is a
good player. But Booby Miller, who

423
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.680
for those who don't remember, who
played at wake Forest the last I think

424
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.160
he's there a couple of years.
But he was a really good guard.

425
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:29.279
You know, averaged about fifteen sixteen
points per game for wake Forest last year,

426
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:33.559
who was a pretty good team.
He's he's gonna be visiting at the

427
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.359
end of the week on the nineteenth. So, you know, I think

428
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:41.119
what you're seeing here is and this
is probably how it's gonna work for every

429
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.920
coach in the portal that has spots
to fill. That is all right,

430
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:53.519
we need a veteran productive player at
this position. We're going to pursue five

431
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:57.200
of them, and clearly they're not
all going to be the same. We're

432
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:02.000
going to have some preferences as far
as how much we you know, how

433
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:04.240
much we really prioritize each of these
guys. But at the end of the

434
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.519
day, if we do our part
and we really work to sell and pursue

435
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.000
these guys and we'll get one of
them. Well, that's happening now.

436
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:15.839
But with Pat Kelsey it's with ten
different spots, which is why I just

437
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:21.119
see it seems so difficult to you
know, to keep up with. Also,

438
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:25.240
Nick Boyd was a visitor this past
weekend. He is an FAU transfer,

439
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:26.880
averaged about ten points a game for
him. Last year he shot thirty

440
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.559
five percent from three. So those
guys were here on campus. The other

441
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.400
two visitors, Rain Smith and James
Scott are the two players that followed Kelsey

442
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:38.039
from Charleston, so they're already in
the mix. They're already committed. So

443
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.559
as far as Boyd Maddox, you
know, I'm not sure what other visits

444
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:47.400
they have played. Again, I
mentioned Maddox's Illinois, So now we shift

445
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:52.079
to some other visitors. In fact, there's a visitor I believe. Yeah,

446
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.599
So Javon Hadley. This is a
name, and this is just me

447
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.880
giving you an example of how quickly
this stuff moves. Now maybe you know,

448
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:06.119
and there's a good chance I am
not consuming this information as much as

449
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.599
everybody else as far as players in
the portal, who they are, who

450
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:12.240
they're considering, who they're visiting.
But Javon Hadley is a name that I

451
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:17.960
don't believe we'd ever talked about at
all. And then sure enough he is

452
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:19.920
in the portal and he visited louill
yesterday. I think it was just for

453
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:25.240
one year. Yeah, it was
only for he was only at Colorado for

454
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.200
one season. But a six six, two hundred and fifteen pound shooting guard

455
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.640
who you know last year for Colorado
who was a pretty good team. He

456
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:36.559
averaged eleven and a half points,
six boards, shot fifty three percent,

457
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:38.279
in fact, fifty four percent from
the floor. So again, i'd be

458
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.599
a fool to kind of break down
his game. That's why I'm just rambling

459
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:44.759
off his stats because I don't know
nothing about him. But he played Colorado

460
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.480
last year and you know who was
you know, a Pac twelve team and

461
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.440
he put up some good numbers.
And now he visited Louisville, So maybe

462
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.240
he's somebody that joins what makes this? You know, I don't act like

463
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:57.160
it's you know whoever. Just bring
in ten guys and we'll see what happens.

464
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:02.759
But this is like next level hectic
and chaotic as far as like,

465
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.920
Okay, this guy, we heard
his schedule to visit, then he didn't

466
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:08.119
come on the visit. That was
the young blood kid from South Florida who

467
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.880
looked like Louisville had a good shot
at him. He cancels his visit,

468
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:18.720
goes to Alabama, commits to Alabama. So the other visitors that will be

469
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.759
here soon, there's one of them
who will be making his way from Bloomington.

470
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:30.960
So Omar Ballow from Arizona. A
really good player who I mean every

471
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.799
I think every team, regardless of
like how you want to play as far

472
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:38.720
as stylistically, everybody could use an
Omeir Bollow because he's a big physical presence

473
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:45.160
seven foot two hundred and sixty pounds
and he's just I mean, he's a

474
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.920
big physical presence that like you don't
have, you don't play through him,

475
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.599
right, Like it's not like he's
getting twenty shots a game, but thirteen

476
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.799
points, ten rebounds, one and
a half blocks a game last year,

477
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.200
did that in twenty five minutes per
game, shot sixty five percent from the

478
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.400
floor. So he is actually ranked
as the number one player in the portal

479
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.000
according to I think it might be
ESPN, and he he's set up some

480
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.920
visits. Louisville is going to get
the visit after he leaves Indiana because he's

481
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.880
visiting there currently today until tomorrow.
Who else was in the mix for him?

482
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:21.640
I forget, you know, John
Louisville, Indiana, and uh,

483
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.640
either way, it sounds like just
to be honest, it sounds like Indiana

484
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:27.359
is believed to be you know the
pick for him. Oh, Kansas State

485
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.880
Jerome Tang in the mix. I
forgot about that. So we'll see.

486
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.119
You know, if omar Ballo does
not end up committing to Indiana in the

487
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:37.720
next twenty four hours and he does
make his trip to Louisville, I mean,

488
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.079
that's that's promising, So we shall
see. But again, he's the

489
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:48.000
number one overall player according to ESPN
and the Portal, So we'll see what

490
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:49.759
happens here. John, you think
they've made the trip to Mother Bears yet

491
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.920
they may have. Maybe that's I
mean, maybe that's tomorrow whenever you know,

492
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.880
it's exit out. Yeah, that's
like thinking, Yeah, that's like

493
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.720
the that's the final sales pitch.
You get him at the Bear's Pizza in

494
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.720
Bloomington, and you know it's almost
like, you know, he put the

495
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:06.920
bag on the table with the pizza. Yeah, he can't say no,

496
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.000
right exactly. So again, we'll
see. I really like this guy,

497
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.400
but I have a feeling, like
well I say I have a feeling just

498
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.200
because that's what all the noise is
is that he's going to end up in

499
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.599
Indiana. All right, So I
want to get to this when we have

500
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.240
a little more time, but we've
already had a couple of people texting and

501
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:29.000
asking about Rick Patino's offer to pay
in ile money for Mark Pope to get

502
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.559
to get players. I'm not going
to tell anybody how they should feel about

503
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:37.920
Rick Patino being like super horned up
for his former player being back in Lexington

504
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.119
because you know, as a Louisville
fan, I can get that it might

505
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.559
make you feel a certain way because
he was our coach for a long time.

506
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.119
Kentucky was the rival. In fact, you know, Kentucky fans.

507
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.599
I mean, I don't think it's
out of line to say that during that

508
00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:01.240
era, Kentucky fans loved I mean, I mean the Rick like they made

509
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:07.599
fun of Rick Patino for you know, over a decade. And let's be

510
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.640
real, there was some really bad
ammunition provided on Louisville's part for the rival

511
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:17.200
to make fun of Rick Patino,
right, Karen Czeipher fifteen seconds, you

512
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:22.759
know, Minority Hall, Katina pal
Like, we know. But I have

513
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.319
a theory as to why Rick is
doing that that I've not really heard anybody

514
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.720
else bring up. So I'll talk
about it coming up a little later on,

515
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:31.519
because I get that it's something people
are talking about, but I just

516
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:37.240
I don't. It doesn't it doesn't
do anything for me, meaning like it

517
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.839
doesn't it doesn't make me want to
go beat Kentucky even worse because Rick is

518
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.119
now like on their side. So
we'll get to that a little bit later

519
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.279
on. All Right, something else
we're gonna have to get you at some

520
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:52.680
point with both rosters, I mean
looking looking to completely put to I mean

521
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.920
I say rosters. Both programs are
gonna have completely new rosters. It seems

522
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.839
next year. We haven't even talked
about DJ Wagner hitting the portal today not

523
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.400
a real surprise, but that did
break earlier today. Aaron Bradshaw has committed

524
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.559
to Ohio State, So you know
basketball is going to be hectic. But

525
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:15.239
football, the portal opens tomorrow in
college football the post spring portal, and

526
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.079
it closes on the thirtieth. So
from the sixteen to the thirtieth of April

527
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.519
is when you have is the amount
of time you have to decide if you

528
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.960
want to stick around and run it
back with your team or if you want

529
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.840
to hit the portal and leave.
So Louisville is losing. Some guys in

530
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:32.719
the portal will tell you about who
they are and this is going to be

531
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:36.639
normal, right, Like, there
were certain positions maybe you felt like in

532
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:39.480
the portal that Louisville was still pretty
thin at and we knew that Jeff Brohm

533
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.400
and his staff were going to have
to wait until the spring ball wrapped up,

534
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.000
which probably their spring game is his
Friday. But you know players are

535
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.360
already going to be hitting the portal. In fact, there's already reports out

536
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.039
there as far as which guys are
going to be leaving. So you know,

537
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.000
we'll get into it, maybe not
today specifically, but I think there

538
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.480
are some spots where Louisville wants to
go add depth. And if there's one

539
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.599
thing we can say that Jeff Bram
has done really well thus far since he's

540
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:02.800
been at louisvo Is, he's done
well in the portal. I mean back

541
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.760
to back years where his portal class
is not only ranked towards the top of

542
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.800
the country, but again the portal, you know, you get a big

543
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:15.360
splash, a big impact guy,
guy that you've watched being All American at

544
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.639
this school and then he's coming to
your school like you have you have justified

545
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.400
expectations with that. But one of
the things that's always really you know,

546
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.000
especially this past year with Brahm,
is that they lost guys in the portal.

547
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:29.079
And you know, I'm sure some
of the guys that left, they

548
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.480
didn't want them to leave, but
that this is now the game, right,

549
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.800
I'm gonna go out there, like
Mari Huggins, Bruce he ends up

550
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:37.599
at South Carolina. He was a
good receiver here, was great. Wasn't

551
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.320
an elite guy, can't be your
go to. So I don't think aybody

552
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.559
want him to leave. But Jeff
Brom's gonna go get guys in the portal

553
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.199
that are going to probably be ahead
of him. So he moves on.

554
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.480
So there's still were clearly some guys
that I wish would have stayed, but

555
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.599
they were gonna get overrecruited. And
when you look at how twenty four to

556
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:01.440
seven sports evaluates the portal as far
as look looking at what you lost in

557
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:08.519
what you gained, and Louisville is
bringing in damn near ninety percent of their

558
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.800
class that is better than the guys
they lost at those positions as far as

559
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.079
those trade offs. So I don't
know exactly if there's a one if there's

560
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:20.000
one specific spot that they feel like
they really got to go add some players.

561
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.760
But I'm sure we'll we'll get into
it throughout the week, but let's

562
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:23.440
get to a quick break. We'll
come back on the other side. In

563
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fact, before said break, let
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565
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566
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been putting on for a long time
because you know, it's probably not something

571
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you even want to think about.
But I would imagine if it's an issue

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for you, it's probably impacting the
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mean with with your with your loved one,

574
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with your partner. So uh,
you know, that's not good,

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577
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quick break, we will come back
on the other side. Keep this

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thing rolling along at his Coffee and
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584
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on Sports Talk seven ninety So again
I mentioned it earlier. If you were

585
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:38.920
somebody that is bothered by the Rick
Patino love fest for Mark Pope being the

586
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:43.400
coach a Kentucky again, I get
it. I'm not gonna tell anybody how

587
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.960
they should feel, and in a
way I would. I mean, I

588
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.800
wasn't expecting anybody to be like,
Okay, that's cool, but this is

589
00:37:51.840 --> 00:38:00.000
a guy that played for him at
UK and I mean Rick felt a certain

590
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.119
way about Kentucky when he was here. Clearly, and it actually worked out

591
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.440
well because I don't think Rick ever
hated Kentucky ever will I don't think it's

592
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.320
possible. I mean, he said
it recently on the part of My Take

593
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:15.039
podcast with Big Kat and PFT,
that you know, he wishes he would

594
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:16.920
have never left Kentucky. Do people
realize he has said that before, Like,

595
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:21.159
that's not the first time he said
that. And I don't even think

596
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:22.239
it's a crazy thing to say.
I mean, when you're the coach at

597
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.719
Louisville, you gotta be careful because
you know, you want people to believe

598
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:28.760
that you and I think he loved
it here too. But what made it,

599
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.880
you know, what made the rivalry, you know, at least seem

600
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:36.480
as if Rick had he felt a
certain way about Kentucky was John Caliperry being

601
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:42.559
there. There's a personal rivalry between
the two already they hate each other.

602
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:49.440
So Rick always was going to love
the University of Kentucky's basketball program because it's

603
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.119
part of him. It's part of
his story. So seeing a guy who

604
00:38:52.159 --> 00:39:00.440
played for him when he won a
national championship there like that's that's that's a

605
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.239
good moment, right take take the
emotions of the of it being the rival

606
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.280
and you know your former coach out
of it, which again you can't just

607
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.199
erase that it it matters. But
for Ricks, from Rick's position, like

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this is probably one of the more
prouder moments he's ever had as a coach

609
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because of the level of job that
Mark Pope just received. And Ri's had

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guys that played for him get jobs
elsewhere as head coaches. But this is

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different. This is a guy again
who they want a national championship together,

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and now you know, many many
years later, Hope's been brought back.

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Now will he win? I don't
know. I have no clue if this

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guy is going to be able to
get it done in Kentucky. No clue

615
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nobody does. But I think Rick
is genuinely happy for Mark Pope. And

616
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another factor that like nobody's bringing up
that I just think is pretty obvious,

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like I think he wants to overdo
it because Rick knows the reach that he

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has. Rick tweets out something,
Rick says something, I mean, it's

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not going to lead TMZ, but
let's be hones. Is there another coach

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out there, John that you think
that could just, you know, use

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his press conference to just talk about
something like he was doing a talk show

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or tweet out some kind of a
change that he wants to recommend for Nil

623
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and that stuff like Patina John Cala
Perry. Yeah, but he did,

624
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but he didn't do that. Yeah, you know Cal is You know,

625
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maybe Cal will one day kind of
grow out of his arrogance to wharre because

626
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Rick's arrogant too, trust me.
But there are a lot of like,

627
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if I'm being honest with you,
now, Rick I think has a little

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bit of that faux humility because of
what he went through publicly with the embarrassment

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m Cal. I mean, Cal
would still be the coach at Kentucky because

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he would have been much more successful
than he was in recent years if he

631
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wasn't so stubborn like that's what That's
what led to that being so bad,

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bad at the end and needed to
end. So you know, I think

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Rick now knows that if he's just
out here talking about Mark, like in

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what four days time, this has
turned into you know, I think relatively

635
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big stories. They're not again leading
Sports Center, it's not you know,

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it's not to that level. But
him doing the video about Pope getting the

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jobs, saying that he would cut
the nil check. I mean that became

638
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.760
a big story and Rick knows that, and you know who that's probably gonna

639
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:14.679
piss off, John Caliperry cows at
Arkansas. You know, he'll have to,

640
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you know, get his own team
together. And obviously there's gonna be

641
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.960
a rivalry renewed there between Arkansas and
Kentucky, if it ever was really a

642
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.760
rivalry, because again Cal's now going
to be playing against him in the conference.

643
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But you know, Rick wouldn't do
anything to gas up Kentucky when John

644
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Caliperry was there like this, because
it would be also gassing up a guy

645
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who he loaths, which is John
Calipery. Notice the said low than not

646
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love. I don't know why it
came out weird, but you know he's

647
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earlier today Patino this morning. Wow, just saw clips from our captain's press

648
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conference. Not shocked, but pleasantly
surprised. Would expect nothing less from coach

649
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Mark Pope. Also Saint John's men's
basketball excepts this year at UK next year

650
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:57.280
at the Mecca. Looking forward to
saying goodbye to Kentucky men's basketball. Like

651
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.119
that opens the door for Rick to
go back there and be treated like a

652
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:06.960
legend. Which he is a legend
there. Obviously we know some you know,

653
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since he'd left. It wasn't as
if, you know, he became

654
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:12.760
a low life human being, but
he coached the rival like that's just that's

655
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.559
gonna make Kentucky fans feel a certain
way about him. But this era,

656
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that nineties era that was super successful. It wasn't forgotten, it wasn't tarnished,

657
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but it wasn't exactly going to be
in the line. It wasn't going

658
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to be referenced as much. It
wasn't going to be elevated as much.

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Because you know why, John Calipari
wanted it all about his brand. His

660
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guys love familiar. And even though
cal benefited from the nineties decade that Kentucky

661
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had because again, it added to
the brand, It added to what Kentucky

662
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.920
basketball is. That helped him win, that helped him get players, But

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he's not going to go out of
his way to reference that run. You

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know why, because it was Rick
Patino who did it. So I think

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Rick is genuinely wanting to go back
to Kentucky and be welcomed, And I

666
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:01.760
don't blame him. I don't think
it has anything to do with Louisville.

667
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.679
It will have nothing to do with
Louisville. It's just because he had a

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00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.400
phenomenal career there, and it was
weird for a while because he went to

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the rival and then Cali Perry got
there, and Cali Perry, to be

670
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.320
honest with you, owned Rick during
the rivalry and they hated each other.

671
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So I don't think it's Rick trying
to flip sides on Louisville. I don't

672
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think Rick is Some people have said, we've got people in the text line

673
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:28.360
say trying to guess I guess what
I was mentioning. As far as like

674
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why Rick's doing that. The two
guesses that came in were well, because

675
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.119
people forget Louisville did fire him.
They did, But like, that's not

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why I think he's doing it.
I think he's genuinely just over the moon

677
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.400
and by the fact that his former
player who loves him is now the coach

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of Kentucky. So now that opportunity
for him to be welcomed and feel comfortable

679
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:50.480
there is there, and I think
that's cool for him. Really had nothing

680
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.360
new with Louisville, to be honest
with you, but one thing that will

681
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:58.199
bother me, right because I'm a
fan like anybody else. You know how

682
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:06.280
many years Louisville fans, myself included, experienced Kentucky fans just making fun of

683
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:12.199
Rick Patino, talking about like he's
he's the worst human being ever and just

684
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you know, bringing up, you
know, the scandals that of course did

685
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happen. And the more he keeps
talking up Mark Pope, you guys are

686
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.599
gonna be eating right out of Ricky
PA's hands. I mean, you're already

687
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.280
doing it, to be honest with
you, So, like that's the one

688
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:29.360
thing where you know, I don't
really blame him if they're want to embrace

689
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.119
the nineties era because it was great, but like they want to check your

690
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:36.039
like, you know, your social
media stuff, because there's probably some of

691
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.519
you that said some despicable, awful
things about Rick Patino when he was Louisville's

692
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:44.079
coach, and I get it he
was the rivals coach, but talk about

693
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.840
a complete one eighty. I mean, Rick Patino was like the villain in

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00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:52.880
that fan base for decades and now
you know, you know they're going to

695
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.840
bring him back, like you know, he's going to be like a fixture

696
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.920
within their program as much as you
can be when you're a head coach everywhere

697
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else Alright, don't go anywhere.
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