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Hey everyone, It's Tuesday, December
the thirteenth, twenty eleven, and you

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were listening to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm Ryan Davis joined me today.

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Mister Vinnie Caravella, what's up dog? Not much, it's just chilling great

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Frank, mister Patrick Kleppick Damns doing
good, feeling it. Mister Jeff Gerstman,

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Hello, how's it going? That's
going okay, fantastic. And mister

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Brad Shoemaker greeting with your fancy ass
alien headphones, those alien weiers. Tell

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me about your headphones, your candy. Who are you wearing beats? These

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beats were Jimmy shoe today, Jimmy
shoes. They kind of looks like the

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Bewers and Wilkins. Oh being w
Yes, there's an amber stand in there.

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Thank you. That means class means
quality. Winds that the British and

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they specialize in like recording equipment and
made a fancy leather studio model. There's

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a lot of fancy leather nothing.
Man, this is News New Zealand.

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It's it's lambskin. It's lambskin from
somewhere. That's a fancy I say that

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counts as a fancy leather. We're
in the South Pacific Ish is lambskin lea

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think it's New Zealand, so that
the same thing. It's kind of like

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any animal skinny hide, a leather
comes leather. Think, I think it

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has to go through a certain treatment, because I don't believe before you reach

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a leather state bringing the wolf pelt
up to the thing, I got leather.

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That's all. Cracklands are not leather. According to the Inbox literature,

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it tastes better beers and Wilkins equipment
was used in their core ring of all

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the Beatles albums huh so so listen
it was really the only three of them,

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is the only way it was ever
meant to be one to one So

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their mono headphone, their comfy yep, right, these are one to one

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stereo album. They put out that
when they redid all the Beatles songs put

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on stereo, that was awful.
There there is a paucity of actual seeing

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the Beatles would have sucked if because
they didn't do it was just like they

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went in and just made mono songs
stereo and it was all that's like drums

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are over here and stuff like that. Right, you know, the early

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stereo mix stuff and all that stuff
is awful. That's why I was so

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stoked for that, Like two thousand
and nine, rerelease everything in mono,

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yep, buy it again for the
first time. Yeah, well you were

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gonna anyway every time, did you
did you? Did you dip again on

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this on the two thousand and nine
set, I was gonna buy it all

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in rock band. That was like
my plan was, yeah, but then

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they didn't release. Then then the
rockment didn't sell all. I'm waiting to

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get my white album. That's all
I wanted out of had. I've had

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the Beatles album so many times now
that I'm now just waiting for the next

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big leap in technology where they're just
I don't know, they can recreate genetically

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the Beatles and have them reperform the
songs like here's the newest album. This

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is a genetically almost perfect recreation of
how they would have played it. It's

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the Beatles again. We programmed all
their genetic information into a computer and that

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produced these songs new Beatles. It's
the Beatles literally, the Beatles album just

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reproduced by literally the Beatles. Literally
the Beatles literally, so it's actual Beatles

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that but you gotta wait. You
gotta wait until McCarty dies, right,

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because you can't have any living Beatles
around by Ringo doesn't count. He doesn't

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count. Well, no, because
once McCarty dies, then Ringo will sign

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off on this bullshit idea and a
heartbeat. True. He's like, well,

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I don't know clones because nobody cares
about Ringo. So he's gonna have

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to generate some attention by making some
controversial moves with the Beatles. First,

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first you do it with the two
of them, and then you do it

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once one of them dies, you
do it again. And then fully as

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as you as you're peeling off the
living Beatles, they're gonna produce that album,

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genetic recreation album, like seven times. Anyway, That's what I'm waiting

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for. Let's get on it all
right. Bowers and Wilkins, Yeah,

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they would, They would have the
access to the genetic materials. Scrub it

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out of the scrap it out of
the headphones, you know, whatever other

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gears around, mixing in with some
mold. Yeah, and LC add some

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add a velocar raptor some barb frog. You can put a couple of frogs

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in that bed. The food processor
whip that all up an out. Yeah,

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put that into a ice tray.
Is that new fridge peppers? That's

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right, And then apples like,
oh, we still can't get it.

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Damn it. Crap, we don't
have rights to that clone technology. Yeah,

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do you care about how you're doing? Doing? All right? How

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are you doing? I'm good?
Crazy end of the year, I guess.

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So here it comes barreling down the
road. I can't it out of

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the way it is. We've only
got a couple of weeks left of steering

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headlights being here. Games. We
got it. So now now that all

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the games are out, now we
have to start thinking about all of the

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games that came out and that we've
played, and all the games that are

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coming out over the next like eighteen
months. Trying not to thine months.

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I'm trying not to think about that. About the future, that's too far,

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Like Command of Conquered Generals too,
dude, you're just saying nonsense.

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We're twenty thirteen game. What are
you talking about? Thirteen pre order?

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Now? There won't be out on
Earth by then, so you don't need

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to worry about Are you worried about
not pre ordering it? Then maybe she's

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just pre ordered. I'm not I'm
not worried about dead. What are you

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work downe by by Aware Earth,
saying that in twenty thirteen everyone works in

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by Aware all and out of part
of a division. Now you will be

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being made by by Aware video games. Old Republic was really successful. It

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turns out you didn't know. But
going to the future, it's crazy.

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Everyone's got older public tattoos, World, bio World, the whole thing,

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Arkham by a World, Yeah,
okay, by a World presents zep Dialo

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trees always. Then I'm in all
right, do you want to build this

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carrier? No? You failed the
check, so you're building carrier man.

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That's your job, right, kick
the kick the harrier out of there.

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I played Zelda? Did you play
any games? I played Zelda Za?

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Finally someone else. I played the
Legend of Zelda, The Legend of Zelda.

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The Skyward Sword z that the latest
one, that's the most recent.

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How could you tell? I don't
know. Was it because you had to

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go and hold you had to go
and find your motion plus add on I

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did. It was still on the
week condom and I just plugged everything in.

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There's all right, tell me about
Skywoard Sword probably won't make any friends

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on the internet this way. But
you're not gonna make friends on the internet

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talking about Zelda, really unless the
thing say, this is the best,

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A couple of chat rooms that approve
you wrong, the a couple of bus

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tickets I wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
This, this is something. What you're

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about to get into is something I
couldn't get into because I'd be would have

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been talking to myself. But now
you understand, I'm just gonna talk to

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I don't. I don't think it's
as big a deal as you think it

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is. It's so slow. It
is the slowest goddamn opening of any game.

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Does that take a while to get
go? It was about an hour

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forty five minutes in before I left
the start on my adventure. And it's

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so goddamn pedantic. It's so hey, don't hey, Link talk to me?

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Okay? Holding down the Z button
to talk to people's real cool,

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right, D D D. Because
Link doesn't talk, right, you should

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hold down the Z button and talk
to that guy over there, and you

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can't skip dialogue or anything. Because
holding down the Z button to talk to

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people is the way I like to
target people. I call it z targeting.

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That's a weird name. You should
go talk to the person over there

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and ze target him as well.
Did I say that already? Because I'm

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crazy Joe, this guy who says
everything twice. If you want to talk

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to me again, just ze target
me, all right, see you later.

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Like that's and it's like like five
minutes per conversation of like every like

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it just should just be a thing. That's like I played Zelda before a

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right played a video game, Like
I know I know how this work,

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Like it hand holds you for the
first so I know how. Also,

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there's unskippable thing or no, I
don't know if it's unskipable. But there's

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a movie about the Emotion Plus and
how to attach the like if you don't

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have the the one the one piece, the one zie about how to hook

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the thing in and lock it and
like this is a really long stupid video

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sports Resort had stuff like that too, like they've I think all the Motion

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plus games have that war It was
a three minute video and it's a it's

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a it's like video of a lady
doing imserting and it's like and she's like

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it and then you're like a minute
and a half and you're like, Okay,

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I get it, and they don't
play that if you have the saw

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that and then it's like a minute
and a half in this remote plus Yes,

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got it, and then they'll tell
you how to take it off.

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Yeah, and then those of your
other minute and a half do you feel

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like you learned something? I hadn't
had it. I didn't have it locked,

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so you know what. I was
like, I should probably who cares?

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So uh Anyway, once I got
once, I took it like literally

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an hour forty five minutes, an
hour and a half just to get kind

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of things moving. And I'm not
saying that it's a bad game. Once

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things did get moving, but gosh, it is really slow. And my

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wife is sitting there watching me playing. She's like, who's this game for.

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It's like a little complicated for kids, like little kids, like a

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five year old, and it's just
way too pedantic for like an adult to

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be able to sit there and be
like, I get it. I know

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your cat's missing the cats over there. Just let me go get the cat.

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I read faster than you're scrolling this
stuff. Just please just spending it

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a button to get past the text
it's all atmosphere. Man, they're building

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up. Somewhere in the middle.
There's like a ten year old that is

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just loving it perfect right on,
Like they want to get that's who they

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want, get that ten year old
to get their their first timers and have

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them hooked. I thought that ten
year old was busy swearing at people in

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the nextbox a lot. Maybe yeah. And I don't think they're playing all

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the games. Maybe I'm just missing
miss judging anyway, game's fine, it's

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just so slow, just slow,
Oh my gosh. I mean even even

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the first dungeon isn't that great.
It's not until you get to the second

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area that the game really kind of
picks up. And I know if it

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should we perform a public service and
post the save file for download that is

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like right at where it actually starts, probably because yeah it is, because

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that was my biggest word is twenty
eleven, just the year the slow starts.

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I feel like we've had a bunch
of games where like Supmarto three Land,

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Jeff, You're yeah, you felt
like the first half of that game

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is a real snooze for some of
the same reasons. I mean, it's

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not that it's slow. It's that
it's it's really easy. You know.

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It's like they're they're afraid to show
you the real game. For like,

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kind of the first half of Super
Mario three Years Assassin's Creed Revelations like spends

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a number of hours in many cases
reintroducing gameplay mechanics that you just saw in

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Brotherhood, right, but acting like
everything's for the first time. Like when

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it was slow in Brotherhood, that
was acceptable, but Revelations was a little

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should be nice if you can say, like, yes, I played a

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Brotherhood. Yeah. Yeah. So
the problem with that one is that they

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they folded so much of the into
the story of the storytelling, into these

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mechanical elements. It's like, no, you have to meet this guy and

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you know, be introduced to these
factions before. I mean, does the

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same thing with you know, i
mean kind of the through the first act

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and a half of that game,
it's introducing new side stuff to you.

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That's true, kind of one mission
at a time, that's true. Oh

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to mind if it did that.
But this Zelda stuff is just like well

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they're not even couching it in like
missions or anything. It's just well you

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just you look at shots of people
looking at each other for too long.

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And like I said, you can't
skip through anything. You could skip the

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text in that game. It would
solve a lot of the early game basing

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issues because a lot of what you're
I understand having the gameplay mechanics introduced,

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like they just want to guarantee that, and that's hard to make that an

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option. But if you could skip
the text, you would probably do that

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that intro in half the time.
Yeah, if you if you could just

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you know, burn through the stuff, that's like, all right, you're

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speed read it like you're not really
telling me anything. It's not like you're

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listening to voice acting or anything.
So if you can, you're reading it

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a lot faster than it's displaying it. So I'm just waiting for the text

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that's all bolded blue, and that's
when I know when to actually pay fucking

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attention because those are terms that are
going to be actually relevant to games.

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Or if you could just like do
like a lot of other games where like

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scrolls faster as you hold the button
down, you can do. You can't

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scroll faster. It's just not fast
at all. I thought I was just

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imagining it. You can jamming on
it. And be like, I think

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it's going a little fast because a
lot of those games I have like a

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skip to, like yeah, filo, it just goes the next one.

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Yeah, no, uh, a
little too handholding. So yeah, then

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I started enjoying it. And then
the part that bummed me out the most

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was I made it through like the
pre first dungeon, which was really long.

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Again, I was kind of slow, and they made it to the

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first dungeon U and you know,
I was doing my thing. I was

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kind of whacking the thing back and
forth and killing guys. And it's supposed

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to be like where you hold the
weed room road is where Link's gonna point

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his sword and that whole thing.
But I was like, I'm getting through

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this pretty easily. And then I
got up to the first boss and the

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boss holds his hand up right,
and you have to hit him in pretty

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much like the opposite direction of where
he's holding his hands. So if he's

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holding his hand up high, he
try to hit him high, he's gonna

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grab your sword right. If he's
holding it down to the left and tried

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to him from down from the left, he's gonna grab your sword. You

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know, he'll throw the sword dick, fuck your sword, and like you're

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like, well that's and that's again
a long animation, and you're like,

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this is sword, rather not do
this. So suddenly I was like,

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okay, fine, But now I
suddenly realized I guess I had been playing

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the game all wrong because every time
I was holding the sword too high and

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went to go hold it down to
start down and move up, he would

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swing the sword down, so like
in my motion of trying to lower the

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sword down, dude, grab it
and be like that. No, no,

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I didn't want to hit you there. Suddenly I just I started hating

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motion controls all over again, like
at the point where they started asking me

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for like real fidelity of the controls
of like no, you need to swing

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left to right and not upper left
to right. I started hating life again,

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and I was like, I just
hate I think I just hate motion

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controls. This should be the game
that it's like, this is great,

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these all work and no, sad, I finally got it. I died

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three times on the first boss of
Zelda Head. Maybe you paid more attention

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for the hour and a half leading
I also got a bug right in the

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beginning where it kind of sucked where
this is a gorn that's what they're called,

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like the pack guys. He's getting
attacked by a bunch of bandits and

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I cleared out the bandits and then
the gorn got stuck in a walk loop

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animation where he couldn't make it over
to me. He's just walking in place

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and I had to reset the game. Weird. Yeah, that is unfortunate.

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Yeah, I'm calling for I'm calling
for a job. Uh send your

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disking. But yeah, it's Zelda
e. It's fun. It's parts of

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it or fun again. This was
This is My biggest fairy of this game

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was the house. Though it starts, does not get you to why that

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game is interesting until about five six
hours in, and so it can put

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you off really quickly. And I
think that first boss is designed well in

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the sense that it teaches you,
hey, you need to be like you

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said, you were wagging your way
through, and it like that's not how

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the rest of the game. It's
like, no, this is what you

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need to do. But it doesn't
provide you with enough feedback on what you

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did wrong enough to tell so that
you can tell did the motion controls screw

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up right? Because they're not perfect
they're I think they're way better. They're

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way more accurate, but it doesn't
give you enough feedback on whether you screwed

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up, or whether the games or
whether the motion is not one to one,

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and it's that timed combined with this
little pasting, then I think I

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was afraid it's going to put a
lot of people off to the goods tough.

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If you weren't there to tell me
that it's going to pick up,

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I just put it down probably and
be like, this is pacing is terrible.

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It picks up really well. Following
that, the thing that I think

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that the smartest thing they do is
almost in every menu of us, every

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screen besides the main gameplay screen,
any menu, any aiming mode. If

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you are pointing the WE mode at
the screen, you can push down on

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the deepad and it'll reregister that as
you pointing at the center of the screen,

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so it'll say, hey, do
you feel like this is a little

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bit off? Then like just push
that and it's like okay, snaps it

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back to the center. This is
what I think the center is. That's

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actually really helpful because you because you're
always swinging it around, it's losing calibration.

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So whenever you're the menu, which
happens all the time, just bike

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virtue of accessing items and checking things. Yeah, you can always be calibrating.

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That's that's actually really nice because it's
really fast and you just do it

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and I do it all the time. Be really awesome if you weren't constantly

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it was in calibration. Yeah,
I was gonna says it's a good solution

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to a problem that ideally shouldn't exist
at all. Yeah, it's you know,

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there's not a whole lot they could
have done, you know. And

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I'm also like shifting around on the
couch positions and stuff. I'm not like,

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I don't know if you're supposed to
be standing to play that game or

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what, but like I'm just doing
wrist movements. I'm not like waving my

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arm around. You know, you
shouldn't. And so like I'm starting here

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and then I'm slowly creeping over to
the other side of the couch. I'm

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like taking it to the bathroom with
me because I have the strap on,

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and like, you know, coming
back from the bathroom and being like,

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oh, you should go to the
bathroom with the trap on, Well,

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he's gonna make a mess. Yeah, for all involved. No one's going

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on to use that either either thing. I guess pass and play. No

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not in this case. It's yeah, some wet naps at the least,

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at the least I don't bring them
mention. And in that case, that's

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not what P and P stands for. And P P P and then you

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P, all right, that's your
P and P. How we did it

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in Long Island. I don't know
what you guys do. That's different.

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It's a different thing. Ponder rose
out here. Nope, okay, what

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else? What else you've been playing? Man? Uh? And that was

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kind of suburbs still treating you well? Yeah? That saw Hugo? Yeah,

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which I went to a roadside barbecue. Nice. Yeah, I'm still

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doing it. Didn't give up.
Yeah, paid fourteen dollars to go see

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Hugo. Yeah, alright in three
D. In three D. That movie

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is pretty good. That was good. I did some other stuff. Took

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the car out for a bit,
drove around just cruising. Now, you

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know, check it out high schools. You gotta log your hour of suburban

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driving every day. Yeah, every
day. You gotta us to come into

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the bathroom with me. I got
a remote and uh it should just be

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surprised. No one does. Everybody
does. No one does. But yeah,

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that was pretty much a Patrick Kleff
played all the way through Jurassic Park.

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You played all the way through Jurassic
Park the game war Path. Yeah,

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that does have a single player story. Yeah, I think all the

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dinosaurs are different endings too. Of
course, Patrick in the in the Grand

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Cannon of Jurassic Park video games.
Where does Jurassic Park of the game stand.

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Probably it's pretty high up there for
not a lengthy history of really yeah,

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not for that goes a whole glutton
of I feel like the Jurassic Park

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for the Genesis Last Sega CD was
pretty good. Yeah, does it light

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you play as a dinosaur? No
that it's not the best. No you

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ever you never, No that it's
not the best. Well electro mechanical.

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Come on, we gotta have a
different category for that. I don't know.

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Look for John Bombs twenty eleven Award
for Best electro Mechanical. There's a

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screen on that thing. Yeah,
there's that little digital screen two X roars.

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Uh. It's if it doesn't get
better, does it get more complicated?

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No, it's like that formula we
saw in those first, that first

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hour or so, I actually quite
I'm Heavy Rain to have a lot of

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issues, but I thought for what
it was striving to do, I thought

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it made so as as I thought
I thought it made some is that the

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closest analog absolutely it is. It
is an interactive film. But for all

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the issues that game had, like
this, this one is like a really

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bad Heavy Rain. Like none of
the actions feel like you're you're you're you're

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tied to them or are meaningful,
like there are just random buttons on the

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screen for them to be rant,
Like you never feel like you're doing anything,

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Like you never have any control of
the character. Like at least every

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Rain you're kind of walking around a
little bit and interacting with things, and

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the movement least made an attempt to
make the movements tied to what you were

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trying what you're doing on So if
you're turning a valve, it's gonna be

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some kind of rotation, yeah,
and there's a little bit of that in

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this, but it just like I
really feel like it I don't even know

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why I'm doing any of these things. And you also like rare la or

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fail or die, like they're a
very few fail scenarios, you're just kind

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of bumbling through and like they have
medals that you're getting there's just to try

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and encourage you to to do better, but there are no there's no inventory.

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The puzzles are so like just but
I think is a good word for

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this too, just like you just
click things enough times and you have solved

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the puzzle. And one like one
of the things from what we saw was

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very limited fail state, very limited
fail state. Even the icons, like

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the pistre version is so fucking awful, like frame rate, stuttering, audio

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glitches all the time, Like we're
not talking about a real process or intensive

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video game, Like it's a Telltale
interactive adventure game and it's just all over

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the places not good either, like
clearly fans, but like I'm not even

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sure if like the way it comes
across is like trying way too hard to

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be referential, like just dropping and
like hold onto your butts, but like

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none of these characters have met that
character and said in Jurassic Parks, so

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like there's no reason for that.
These are mercenaries are just hold on,

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there's no causality, no no itch
of just like remember when that guy said

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yeah, yeah, yeah, there
was like a bunch of someone wrote down

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a bunch of one liners in important
moments like well, I guess you gotta

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hit these points. You gotta get
a reference in here. It's no like

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you like four four different references to
the instances when the one kid is with

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Timmy, right, Timmy, he's
up on the fence, like several times

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where they reference that just like you
don't need you don't, you don't need

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to hit that note again. I
don't know that's I just put I played

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on. What does it take place? Takes place? Uh directly after Jurassic

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Park one? Uh so like directly
after like Hammon that night Hammon has gotten

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off the island. Wow. Uh, like those events have just happened.

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Yeah, Like that that barber saw
can that it falls out of his pocket,

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like you you were basically like you
were part of the team that was

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going to intercept that and take it
back to the mainland. And so you

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kind of get caught up with other
people trying to survive. You're multiple characters.

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Yeah, you don't, you don't
really You're not any one character.

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And because they don't have any of
the like characters you care about, like

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they make trying to make all these
like references to them, but it's just

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you do you feel like they at
least take advantage by not having you bound

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to anyone character and by not having
to worry about like inventory and stuff like

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that. Do you feel like they
take advantage of that as far as the

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storytelling goes? Or No, No, I could just imagine, you know,

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since you don't have to since nobody
has to live through the whole thing,

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could you have characters getting get acts. You don't have to tell me

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specifically of character you get acts.
But I'm using that as an example.

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No, Like it's it's just it's
just really poorly done, like in every

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every fast like it fails. It
fails as an action game, which is

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what they were going for, like
the heavy rain stuff. It fails as

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a puzzle game. The puzzles aren't
like the puzzles are like they kind of

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like zeldare like so on the nose
and like it's like you'll you're you're in

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front of like a structure that has
like all the different periods during the Cretaceous

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era, and you come across a
schedule that is like those Uh, it's

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like a password to get into the
next area, and it's got all them

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laid out, but one's missing,
so you just gotta go back to the

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other area and just see which one
you have to plug in hit circle,

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and just the interface is so awful, Like you cannot I can't tell when

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anything is on the screen. You're
playing this on the P three, Yeah,

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I hear the other versions are better. It feels like this will work

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better as an iPad game maybe,
but even still, like you, it's

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still has no sense of I feel
like I'm not doing anything when I'm pressing

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buttons. Like it's just there are
buttons there, just because oh god,

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we needed oh god, we needed
buttons here, not because like it was

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particularly well thought out for what would
make for meaningful interaction away for you to

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interact with this. Yeah, like
it's like we have yeah, Like they're

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just the here are things for you
to do, not necessarily because they correspond

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all together well with and because of
the performance problems, like it doesn't react

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when you're hitting the buttons, and
it's just a shame. It's a shame

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that it's you know, the good
stepping out of their comfort zone. It's

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a good idea, like the idea
behind it makes makes solid sense of like

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using these sort of like different motions
on the controller to allow them to do

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something a little more than just around. It just did not did not hit

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it. I don't know. I
don't know what this team worked on prior,

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Like I don't but it but make
it makes me concerned about the other

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things they're working on Walking Dead,
the original thing they have. They have

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King's Quests, different team, so
I know, I just yeah, like

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I would, I hope, I
hope. It seems like there's it seems

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like there's a lot of you know, shared technology, Like there's a pretty

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narrow code base at least it appears
from the outside of a Telltale games,

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so like how much deviation they can
do outside of what they are given by

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other teams, And they can make
an adventure game, and I'm worried about

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them making a king s Quests game
that's just you know, I mean Walking

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Dead like you know, involve some
action. So I mean I suppose if

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they're going for a completely different route
or if they have different ideas, but

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if this is how they approach act
and this is how their technology bakes in

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doing action, yeah, I'll be
curious to see what the reaction looks like

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to the next couple of tell Tale
projects. Yes, and I think the

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next couple of Telltale they're weird.
They're coming in a weird spot right now.

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Like, I don't think episodic played
out that well. Like it's hard

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to get people to pie. That's
why they make you buy all four upfront.

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Like, you can't buy this episodically. It's broken up in episodes,

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but a different sets of trophies.
This is just drastic part of the game.

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Yes, it just happens. You
broke into four four parts that have

406
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.759
a cliffhanger to kind of give you
each episode it's like two hours long.

407
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.039
I mean, you break it down. Part of the problem is that the

408
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:37.400
you know, the console manufacturers aren't
really interested in in episodic stuff like PlayStation

409
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.119
a little bit more so than Xbox, but even I think a lot of

410
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.519
just how how it's it's it's a
weird thing to dole out. Yeah,

411
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.680
because and if you're willing, like
for the most part, I'm sure they

412
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.759
probably have the market data to back
it up that if you're willing to pay

413
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:52.240
for the one, you're probably willing
to pay for the four or the five.

414
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.000
Right, and if you're not willing
to pay for more than the one,

415
00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.160
like they just somehow needs some better
way to schedule in like players,

416
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.079
you know, like I don't,
I don't, I don't. There's not

417
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:04.720
a good solution in its problem except
like buying it out front so that you

418
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.359
guarantee you get the money, because
otherwise you can easily see out. Someone

419
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.799
buys two episodes and it's like,
eh, right, I'm done, But

420
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:11.720
they still got to make them,
right, like, yeah, I make

421
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:17.440
three and four because it's already in
the Yeah, and no one's gonna start

422
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.839
at episode three, so it's you
know, I imagine if you looked at

423
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:22.920
the sales, Dad, I'm add
just shooting from the hip, but that

424
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.440
there's probably a pretty sharp decline after
episode one, right, And so it's

425
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.160
to their advantage to bake that in
early. But they need a better delivery

426
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.960
method, Like they haven't solved it
on the PC either. So it's like

427
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.160
even if even if a consum manufacturers
were more willing to go along like that

428
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.200
is that is something they could solve
all on their end if they were finding

429
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.559
a better delivery mechanism. I just
I don't know what that is. I

430
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.359
don't know if that's like scheduling it
out. It's like, hey, every

431
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.839
every week at Tuesday at six pm, like the next episode unlocks and then

432
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.240
ever, let's all play together,
like if you try and make it a

433
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:57.799
little more like TV works were kind
of schedule it in. But it's I

434
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:03.079
feel like episodic stuff is better idea
than as it plays out in practice.

435
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.279
Yeah, I don't. I don't
really know what you do to make people

436
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:10.039
care. And it's and it's I
think you write, you write better stuff

437
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.359
like that's you know, if if
the game is of a high quality,

438
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.640
then they absolutely will care and want
to play the next one and and go

439
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.640
from there. If you're kind of
the thing is like on the like TV

440
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.119
where you know you like loss is
a good example, like where you hit

441
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.440
like bad passion of a TV show
like well, screw it. I you

442
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:26.480
know, I'm watching DVD. I
just power through it. I just moved

443
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.000
on to the next one. I
just sit in front. You know,

444
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:33.000
games are active, so you're actively
more so than a TV Like you can

445
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.119
watch something else, you can read
something, you can play the iPhone game

446
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:40.759
game while you're watching a shitty episode
of a TV show. You you generally

447
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.319
like with the games, like well
it's what am I gonna go on?

448
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.440
Game facts and like pupp walk through
and just like through it. So I

449
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.960
know, the story beats going on
to a third one, which here the

450
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.160
third episode's great, you know,
I mean it's it's a hard problem to

451
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.880
solve and that and also just you
know, there's the question of of you

452
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.400
know, market demand for the type
of game that tell Tale makes, which

453
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.359
I feel I feel like, you
know, like we were all pretty positive

454
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:08.279
about the episodic stuff with tell Tale
early on, because it really did seem

455
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.599
like they had figured it out.
But I think the thing, it sounds

456
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:12.920
like, the thing that has changed
is that the quality of the new stuff

457
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.640
is not as good as the quality
the old stuff, and the format is

458
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.119
maybe kind of play itself out a
little bit, which I think the format

459
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.480
I think is part off. But
also just you know, it seemed like

460
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.640
everyone was hopping on the episodic bandwagon
and tell Tale was the one that seemed

461
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.160
like they had cracked it and they
had the follow through at least they put

462
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:30.920
out all their episodes right. But
then you just kind of realized, well,

463
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.599
there are these kind of hard limitations
on episodic content, and you know,

464
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.200
these are the these are things that
keep it from from really flourishing,

465
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:44.000
which is kind of why I think
you've seen everyone kind of shrug their shoulders

466
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:51.279
and abandoned the episodic like that very
specific. Also, the tell Tale stuff

467
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.039
feels kind of the same. Yeah, it's got sameness to it, like

468
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.519
there are better series than others,
but I feel like when you've played one,

469
00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:59.640
it's like, I don't. I
feel like I feel like I could

470
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:00.759
skip the What's kind of like,
yeah, am I in? It's it's

471
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:04.119
not even like at a certain point, it's not even about the license.

472
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.240
It's it's sort of like the well, am I in the mood for a

473
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:08.960
Telltale game right now? Like I
know what I'm in for, Like it's

474
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.880
gonna be angry. I didn't play
the third season. I barely even played

475
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.640
the second season of Samon Max.
Yeah, yeah, it's certainly and that

476
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:21.200
stuff was fantastic, but it looked
hilarious and yeah, but at a certain

477
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.200
point, like I've kind of had
I've had it, thank you. I

478
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.599
think it right though. I Mean
the game is good. The game is

479
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.559
good, Yeah, so make better
games. Yeah, it's as easy as

480
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:37.680
that. Yeah, just you guys
would just make better games, Uh,

481
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.720
would make better games. Walking Dead
fits their formula really well. So I'm

482
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.880
but I feel like that, you
know, Drastic Park I think was basically

483
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.240
in all respects a disaster, Like
it's not a very good game, but

484
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:55.440
the dinosaurs got out pretty much Chaos
Finds Away. Yeah, you know what

485
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.160
they didn't. They didn't use Life
Finds a Way, which is the only

486
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:02.240
at the point that they were misusing
the quotes so badly. I was actually

487
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.480
just waiting when you're like, come
on, just like both of us,

488
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:07.920
Yeah, what is the real quote? Is it? And they add a

489
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.200
setup for it like when they started, like you know, they kind of

490
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:12.599
had a lot of the same beats, like that they that the characters and

491
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:17.680
dress Park want to go across like
you know, finding eggs, and uh,

492
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.599
maybe you just chose the wrong dialogue
option and that's why you did.

493
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.240
Not a lot of not a lot
of really you can kind of explore all

494
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.079
of them. They're on a whole
lot of like select one and then you've

495
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.039
missed a bunch of a bunch of
dialogue. His Dress Park one, the

496
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:34.839
one where the t Rex finds its
way on the boat too. Okay,

497
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:38.799
man, why did you have to
bring that ups? Really forgot about that.

498
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:41.839
Someone was trying to make the argent
with the dress park two is not

499
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.200
as bad as I remember it.
I was just case him alone, no

500
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.119
specifically there, And I hated to
I hate to agree with them, but

501
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.759
I tend to. I tend to
be on that on that side of things.

502
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:56.559
About is you and drew out of
the theater really? Yeah? I

503
00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.000
think comparatively, of course it is. But like then, when they were

504
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.160
reminding me of various scenes toment,
like the scene with the two t rex

505
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.680
Now it wasn't two t rexes,
was it? Yeah? Two t rexes.

506
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.400
Yeah, when they're in the trailer
park, Yeah, that seems that

507
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:12.240
seems all two t Rexes. I
thought that stuff was fine. I thought

508
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.319
that like the RV sequence when they're
hanging over the cliff, like that was

509
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:20.319
just tense and awesome. It was
like it was a lengthy scene and you're

510
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.680
like it just they upstakes and upstakes
and upstakes until it comes to this totally

511
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:29.079
ridiculous but still kind of awesome conclusion
that even like the characters themselves can't believe,

512
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:30.079
like, wait, did that just
happen? I thought that that part

513
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.480
was good. I mean, everyone
will point to the gymnastics scene and that's

514
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.279
terrible, and I don't think it's
it's defensible, but like that's not the

515
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.680
whole movie. I feel like the
difference from me between one and two is

516
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:44.160
how they treated kids. Like in
one, it was kind of like the

517
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:49.559
kids were like the avenue to like
adults and kids like wonderment over dinosaurs.

518
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.119
Like that's kind of interesting storytelling technique. Okay, like we had the kids

519
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.759
that are amazed by dinosaurs, but
look, the adults are amazed by dinosaurs

520
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:59.599
and the kids have maybe a little
with the computer stuff. Was the lie

521
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:04.440
I feel into It was like kids
are badass, Like kids are kids can

522
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.960
save your life. It's kind of
a little little day of sex mockina just

523
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.880
or just like I mean a character
development, like too much spy kids or

524
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:14.079
something. Sure, kids kind of
scream and wet themselves and there on the

525
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:15.359
corner, Yeah, they're they're a
little more of a liability in the first

526
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.240
one. Yeah, and then the
second one they're like, you don't play

527
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.200
the adults are saving people's lives.
Just do what you have to do.

528
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.200
Stay in the trailer. You know
what stay in the trailer. Seriously,

529
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.279
don't don't come on the trip.
Don't get that flashlight. So why'd you

530
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.000
come on the trip? Because now
we're all gonna die because you came on

531
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:35.920
the trip. That's that's the part
I see. That's short. I've learned

532
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.440
from action movies. When you don't
stay a where the action hero tells you

533
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:44.480
to stay, you put everybody's life
at danger. That's it. So saying

534
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.079
when Schwartz nigger says to stay here, stay here one time out of ten,

535
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:52.359
you're rights. He's locked up and
they're gonna kill him, and you're

536
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.920
you might fumble into saving his life. As someone who just watched likely as

537
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.039
someone who just watched the last Action
Hero. Yeah, that rule is is

538
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:06.160
very express expressively stated. So you
make you make everybody's think. If the

539
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.360
action here tells you to say somewhere, don't immediately leave that location. What

540
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:13.199
if? What if Robert Patrick tells
you to get out? You should probably

541
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.360
probably if someone says they want you
to come with them, if you want

542
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.960
to live, depends the pens really, it really depends do what you're told.

543
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.519
Does he look like he's gonna kill
you? I think he's lying.

544
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:30.320
I don't know. It's hard to
say. Does he look overly trustworthy?

545
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.039
No, and then you're probably You're
probably good. Does he look a lot

546
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:38.079
like guy who tried to murder you
violently about ten years ago, Then you're

547
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.679
probably. Then you're probably fun.
Then you're probably fine. Okay, it's

548
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:45.000
the guys that look too trustworthy that's
like nope. Does he look like he

549
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.159
could run for political office at some
point and actually win? No? Not.

550
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.519
Then you're fine. You're fine,
You're fine. These are the rules.

551
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.639
You must follow the rules, Patrick, you play anything else. The

552
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.599
one last thing I'll say about you, please is that you do get to

553
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:05.119
There is one puzzle where you explore
the computer system D and like, yeah,

554
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.480
that's that's pretty good. Like there's
there's a real easy way to do

555
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.159
it, and then there's a trophy
for like going real deep into the computer

556
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:15.199
system. Do you find any good
files in there? I KNOWD files in

557
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:21.440
there? Can you play Zorc?
I don't think so? Lame William black

558
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.400
Op that was in Black Ops.
Yeah, Yeah, totally plays Zorc.

559
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:28.719
Yeah I finished Free Man. Oh
really again? Gets I hear it gets

560
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:34.880
crazy to and is it like is
it like mainline, like your primary objectives

561
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.679
get real fucked or no. Well, so what ends up happening is that

562
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.079
I can see like the size stuff
because I came through so much like side

563
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.079
metals and such. At you.
Yeah, I mean there is a point

564
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.440
in every platform where I find where
for a long time, I tell myself,

565
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.119
I'm gonna get all this I'm getta
get all this ship, but I'm

566
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.920
gonna get it. But no,
and then, but then what happens is

567
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.239
that even though you tell yourself you've
given up, like you, you still

568
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.760
want to, like you're like try
like oh right, Like I wasn't even

569
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.920
I wasn't even trying on that run, and I kind of got close.

570
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.559
I'd probably do it. Let's see
what happens if I actually focus on it

571
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.599
and try and collect all of the
blue stars or whatever, and it gets

572
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.280
the actual main like game, But
it does get the main rock gets more

573
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.559
difficult. But it's really the game
is constantly tempting you to just like come

574
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:21.400
on, I know, I know, I know it was tough last time,

575
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:22.679
but come trying this thing on this
level? Can I just got this

576
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:30.639
go around and and and every like
like twenty lives that you die and I

577
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:32.280
guess the same area the games like, yeah, you want to just skip

578
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:37.159
this, No, no, no, and it doesn't like every like once

579
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:38.800
you said no, it will still
do it again twenty lives from now,

580
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.239
which is just like it furiates me
further. I'm like, I'm gonna keep

581
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:47.079
trying. You can die, real
It's it's easy to die on one hit

582
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.960
in that game, okay, or
it becomes easy to die on one in

583
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.800
that game. Because even when I've
resolved that I'm not going to get all

584
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:58.440
these medals, you still want to
try and get the medals even though you're

585
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.360
like, I'm not. I think
I'm not gonna go back and do it.

586
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.079
I'm like, you still try on
every level and this it's your own

587
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.360
fault, Like it's my own fault. Why I'm so pissed off, Like

588
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.280
it's like I know what I'm doing, but it's dangling right there. She's

589
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:13.920
saying that it wasn't it wasn't necessarily
the like the main path like objectives that

590
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.719
were fucking you up. It was
the stuff speaks, because I want to

591
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:21.960
get all the stuff in the platform
and I just shouldn't, so Boston that

592
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.280
game. Still it's not all to
be got, man, nope. I

593
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:27.840
do there with every platform where I
start out thinking I'm gonna get everything,

594
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.159
and then it's about three fourths through
when that just becomes like I'm really not

595
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:37.960
gonna play this. I start trying. Yeah, because you'll you'll come across

596
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:42.480
almost everything you need, just like
as you're going through the main question.

597
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:49.719
Also, you haven't got you haven't
played long. You have not played long

598
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.639
enough to get upset at the when
that game replays the dialogue box for bugs

599
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.480
you've already picked up every single time. Oh no, so hey, so

600
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.320
when you when you're in an area
and you come across a bug for the

601
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.159
first time us, it'll you know, it'll found this bug. But then

602
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:06.360
when you come back to that area
and find that pick up that bug again,

603
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.800
it'll tell you again. And then
you go to the menu and say,

604
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.280
like, you've already got twenty five
of these, just making sure you

605
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:15.800
know again, I can't escape it
all right, I don't even like the

606
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.400
net. It's hard to just flail
it. Some things should just not be

607
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:25.639
motioned. Yeah, so that's all
I play. Cool. Hey Joe,

608
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.119
all, Hi, so not much. How's track Mania too? It's really

609
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:34.039
good. That was the official Giant
Bomb track Mini two servers. Giant Bomb

610
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:38.280
Official Classic is a huge server.
It is blown nuts. Say it is

611
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:45.320
in the top three every day.
At some point it is to three the

612
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.159
world. Wow. Yeah, so
when you start, at some point it

613
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:50.760
is number one in the world.
Still when you number one in the world,

614
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.719
when you when you start getting like
access to super secret shit like you

615
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:59.880
we know you're a big player in
the track mania community. What happens is

616
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.360
I guess this, this is what
happened with some of their past games.

617
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:06.199
Is in some cases they have allowed
you to spend the end game currency to

618
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.480
buy the next game. Yeah,
so that would be there. That would

619
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:12.800
be it would be then when when
shoot media comes out, I might be

620
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.239
able to buy it. In planets, I have over one hundred thousand planets,

621
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.519
I have your server. Yeah,
yeah, because I have an official

622
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.920
uh like a rate a ranking server, which means I give I gave them

623
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:30.320
a deposit of planets. Forgot about
this? Yeah, did you pay down

624
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:35.599
your your your planets like you're lean
on your planets. I've made back,

625
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.519
uh, you know, like tenfold
deposits. When you get a deposit back

626
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:43.039
when I turn off the ranking bit, when I when I decide to make

627
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.199
it just a regular unranked server.
It comes. I get those planets back,

628
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.079
come check, make sure the servers
clean. You didn't break any windows

629
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.039
or anything like that. You get
carpet steam clean. Yeah, okay,

630
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:53.679
they're like okay, because I mean
there's a little mold here about, like

631
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:58.800
whatever. You get most of your
deposit back. Yeah, okay, that's

632
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.360
crazy. I don't know. I
don't know, I don't know. I

633
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.800
added some more music. I added
some more tracks. We should we should

634
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.079
do another TNT with that game.
At some point, I think we should

635
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:14.239
just start doing track Mania only podcast
that we just upload to your track Mania

636
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:19.039
server to only play when you hit
a certain track onlyybe six minutes long.

637
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.679
That's okay, I got enough to
say, Okay, all ex minutes.

638
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.440
That's well. We'll look into that
then. Okay, hidden you want to

639
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:29.519
know what's our game of the year? Got fine? How many tracks are

640
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:36.599
on your server? Ninety five some? I mean at one point it was

641
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.400
over one hundred. I've been cutting
it back because I'm getting bored to some

642
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:43.199
of the tracks, and you know
whatever, got gotta keep afresh. As

643
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.039
a server administrator, I have to
provide it continually work to provide a world

644
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:52.760
class track Mania server experience. That
means adding hot new dub StEB nice and

645
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:57.000
when when new music. The whole
time, I've been sitting here trying to

646
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.280
figure out a few minute tracks that
you drive on, your tracks that you

647
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:05.119
listen to, I mean both tracks. Still. Yeah, there are thirty

648
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:08.920
plus songs on the server. Okay, if that If that helps you anyway,

649
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:14.079
Yeah, track Mania is still track
Mania, then that's great. Uh.

650
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:22.119
I bought push mo saw for three
DS where I was going to tell

651
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.880
that do you t mobile phone saw? Somebody saying we should get that push

652
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:31.440
mo. It's available now on the
three DS shop push moo blocks, but

653
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.639
actually you do more, way more
pulling than pushing. In Europe it's called

654
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:39.320
pull blocks and that's a way better
name or a way more accurate from those

655
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:44.480
are both kind of shitty names,
pull blocks and push mo push mo.

656
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.679
Just I don't like push I don't
know bad. I don't like to push.

657
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:51.159
You're wrong. You're wrong for liking
Pushmo. So I feel like over

658
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:52.199
the last week, and maybe not
on this podcast, maybe just around the

659
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.159
office, we've been talking about how
dumb QR codes are. But let me

660
00:41:55.199 --> 00:42:00.320
tell you push mo. It works. Yeah, you can create your own

661
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.679
levels in it and uh and spit
them out as basically a QR code style

662
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.199
thing and read them in I just
let me tell you what it is.

663
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:08.960
Yeah, I was gonna say,
the QR codes just aren't implemented poorly.

664
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.599
Yeah they're dune, They're just haven't
figured it out. Yeah, that's it's

665
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.320
I don't need. It's faster for
you to tell me that you are all

666
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.199
to a website for me to type
that in right than it is for me

667
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:22.320
to take a picture of your stupid
block. But I was thinking if they

668
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.800
had QR codes on your credit card, I could buy stuff on my iPad

669
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:28.440
a lot easier, like if I
were just like going on the site.

670
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.519
And then it's like any of your
credit card information and I'm just like,

671
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.599
why don't I just take a picture
of this QR codes you as any kind

672
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.599
of security risk, nopell. Then
you're part of the problem what he's talking

673
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.760
about talking about people with X ray
eyes taking pictures of the QR code once

674
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:45.639
in your pocket. All right,
then you're right, Yeah, tell me

675
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:52.679
all about push mo. So Catherine
block climbing puzzle, We're not starting off

676
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.440
well, Uh, yeah, I
know, uh it is it is not

677
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:01.360
you basically, so it's a it's
almost like a two D image that you

678
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.559
are climbing. So a lot of
the levels people are making are like,

679
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.400
it's Mario, it's two D Mario, like they're making pixel art. What

680
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.039
you're saying, No, that it's
just Mario. It's not even one one,

681
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:13.599
But not all the levels are like
that. Basically, it's it's a

682
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:15.800
series of blocks that are grouped together
by color. So if you grab,

683
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:21.199
uh, let's say it's a three
by three square and the full bottom row

684
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:24.119
and up from there it's all brown, and then the other block is green

685
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.840
or something, and you grab the
brown bit, all the brown bits touching

686
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.519
it will pull out as one.
And you pull these things out up to

687
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:34.559
three layers and then jump on top
of them and then pull out the other

688
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.079
stuff. So basically you're kind of
working your way up to the top.

689
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:38.440
Is the is The goal is to
climb to the top of this thing.

690
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:43.199
And you know, depending on how
complicated the the level is, that'll be

691
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:45.079
either really easy or really difficult.
I mean, obviously it starts out pretty

692
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.320
easy, where you're just like pulling
out things to make stairs and and kind

693
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.679
of going from there. But as
people have made Mario and Pedal Baar and

694
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.920
all this other stuff, you know, those get a little tricky, you

695
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.599
know, to trickier to deal with. So it's three D. He's pretty

696
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:01.480
good. And then, yeah,
the three D looks nice because you're pulling

697
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.519
him towards the screen, so you're
you're pulling up to three levels levels toward

698
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.079
the screen and then kind of jumping
in to some of these areas and running

699
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.639
into the back, grabbing other blocks
and pulling them out too. So it's

700
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:14.400
it's helpful, it's it's the three
d's useful because you can easily see,

701
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.360
you know, which plane everything is
on at all times, so you can

702
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:20.360
like spin the camera around. No, you don't really need to, okay,

703
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.920
but it's pretty clear when you're pulling. The three D helps with that

704
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.880
because it just gives you a little
extra Yeah, little little deception. Well

705
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.239
death, Yeah, it's made by
intelligence systems. Yeah, this plains why

706
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:30.559
it's good. What right, Yeah, Yeah, it's a nice scam.

707
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:31.719
People have been waiting, like this
just came out in a panel a while

708
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:35.559
ago. Is that what till I
was talking about on Twitter? Probably last

709
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.079
week? This come out last week. I came out on the yeah,

710
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.400
came out on the yes I say
that. I was like, Danny,

711
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.400
I'm jealous he gets to play that. That's out. How you can play

712
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.159
it now? You can play it
for it's seven bucks or whatever it is.

713
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.679
It seems pretty cool. It's it
is like a lot of that kind

714
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:52.960
of block climbing e puzzle stuff that
you know, as soon as I started

715
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:55.360
having any kind of Catherine flashbacks,
I was like, I don't know that

716
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:59.519
I want to play this anymore.
And then I scanned in someone's Mario level

717
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.679
of picture of Mario level and then
when this is way harder than the beginner

718
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:07.000
ass levels that I'm on, and
uh, kind of stop playing at that.

719
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:08.840
So where do you go to like
a website that has a QR code.

720
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:13.599
I mean it's just the game will
spit out images to your picture role

721
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:16.800
I guess of your level, okay, and then you can post them on

722
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.119
the internet anywhere. So you know, if you go to our boards,

723
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.199
I mean I think our our push
moo page has the Mario image on it,

724
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:28.239
and uh yeah, it's it's well
made and it's on the shops.

725
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.400
You know, it's good basically,
So it's uh, it's pretty exciting.

726
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:35.280
Hey, you can save your credit
card information? Yeah right, yeah,

727
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.880
did it save your information? I
already had just above seven dollars in my

728
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:43.400
shop account, so I just spent
that and now I have four cents that

729
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.159
against it there forever not a crew
you shit, yeah, or an interest

730
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.760
on the shop. It'd be nice. There's no way to bring what are

731
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:54.800
they called before, like D side, No, it's completely separated the points.

732
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:58.480
No, no, because there's no
those are just those are just locked

733
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:00.679
up in my dside all of a
valid you can spell. You could spend

734
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.320
them all there on dsiwear and then
transfer it. I guess, you know.

735
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.719
So there's you know, it's not
totally gone. Assumingly, they will

736
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:15.119
hopefully not be a problem anymore with
any forward systems. Yeah, I imagine.

737
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:16.800
Yeah, if the WU doesn't use
these same points, that would be

738
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.760
weird, and in fact, to
like play a good deal of these games,

739
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.760
then they will be lost. It
would be cool if you will be

740
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:28.760
lost if you would beam those games
to the screen. Yea, you know,

741
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:30.880
the three D is good enough that
it wouldn't probably look that bad blown

742
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.400
up a little bit. Yeah,
and you're you have a touch screen in

743
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.920
your hand, so theoretically it's and
it's the same and unless they change between

744
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.480
now and when to release, it's
the same one touch capacity. Yeah screen,

745
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:44.719
it's basically the same screen. It's
blown upright, so so they could

746
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.719
they could get away with that,
So that seems well made. I didn't

747
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:53.000
spend a ton of time with is
available? Go they go to go to

748
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.400
the shop, which I know you're
probably checking it every weekend away and uh,

749
00:46:57.440 --> 00:46:59.800
and go watch that. They put
up video of it. You can

750
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.719
exactly what it is, and it's
useful. The video that they have up

751
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:07.800
there explains a lot better than than
I probably just did. What about the

752
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:12.079
latest House MD episode how Somebody episode
five? I did not buy it,

753
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.079
but it does look really interesting.
How much you've loved the rest of the

754
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.880
House games? Yeah? I mean
or the House game? I love House

755
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:25.559
Yeah. House music yeah yeah,
not the show though. He's like he's

756
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.159
just like he's like medical house music, yeah, medical house just house music

757
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:36.280
that that samples like medical noises like
yeah, k machine, sound of e

758
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:42.280
K G Machine, sound of a
shock pads, yeah, medical dubstep warming

759
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.800
up yea heartbeat, heartbeat, mid
step, heart step, Oh god,

760
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.039
dark Wing, Dubstep Dark House,
Dark House, Dark Wing, dub steps,

761
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:57.639
step by steps, stub step,
step by step step. I'm on

762
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.280
board with this. This, These
are all great ideas. Was this part

763
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:06.280
of your looking for nineties teachers?
Did? Uh? Was it? Hey?

764
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.960
Dope step? Yeah? That one
was pretty good. Hey dude,

765
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:14.159
they were better ones. There were
the rug A rug Rats. Nothing better

766
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.599
than the rug Rats one that I've
seen as far as the actual quality of

767
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:22.039
the dub step just because I didn't
listen step, I didn't, I didn't

768
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:29.440
listen to have heavy drops terrifying.
Okay, I actually heard the rug Rats

769
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:30.760
one, and yeah, it does
what you want the dub steps song to

770
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.159
do, which is play about three
notes of the actual thing and then just

771
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:39.440
go to blah. It's not even
a remix at that point, it's just

772
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:45.039
no, no, it's yeah.
It's the yeah. The laziest dub step

773
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.320
is arguably the best dub step.
Yeah like, because there's times when you

774
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:52.440
can be like they actually tried to
make like the like tried to recreate the

775
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:57.559
melody of this song in all of
their crazy webs. It doesn't work great,

776
00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.840
but they tried, and there were
the song was like this guy just

777
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:04.719
a track and said, I'm gonna
go start YouTube real quick for some clip,

778
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:14.800
Uncle Joey exactly. How that Ridge
Racer mini games coming out? Yeah

779
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:21.400
for for for Vita gonna be they
haven't Ridge Racers launch title. Yeah,

780
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.159
imagine gonna be if if it's gonna
be available, it'll have it'll be on

781
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:30.159
that disc or get access to our
Yeah. Sure that wasn't That wasn't all.

782
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.719
That was pretty great. That was
that was great. Forget about reason

783
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:39.280
and your your dub step plugins.
Just want Ridge Racer. Is there gonna

784
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:44.440
be a lot of dub step in
This year's Game of the Year features heaviest

785
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:51.719
heaviest drops, it being twenty eleven
was the year for dub step that twenty

786
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:57.800
ten. Yeah, I don't know
year everything. Yeah, we've just gotten

787
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.400
to the point where even like just
now it's it's it's made its way into

788
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.320
commercials and stuff like it. It's
all it's it's not gonna last much long.

789
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.920
No, no, that's what you
need to burn it out. Yeah,

790
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.679
everything just be done. And twenty
twelve is something like how you stick

791
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:15.320
folk music and then someone just goes
wow blah blah wow wow over it,

792
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.679
like all of the packaging for the
for the v GAS seemed like it was

793
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:27.559
all at least Yeah, I don't
know what else, man, I played

794
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.480
some other games. You watched the
vas Yeah, I did. And I

795
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.760
played sky rim On the PC.
Fair amount got going on that should make

796
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:37.280
a new character? I did?
Yeah, Yeah, I made a a

797
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.320
Nord. It still had that patch
to come out. I haven't gone back

798
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:46.239
to it. Yeah. Played some
Joe Danger for three sixty, which is

799
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:51.519
uh yeah, roughly the same out
this week. Yeah, but it's they've

800
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:53.519
added some it's a special edition.
It is a special edition that they've added

801
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:57.599
some stuff, like they've added actual
online play, which it did not happen.

802
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.920
Did Yeah, I think the Are
you sure? No, I don't.

803
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.360
I don't think they did that.
It's there, there's I know there

804
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.000
is an Xbox Live option, levels
back and forth, but I don't.

805
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:12.239
When I saw you playing it,
there's a thing that said on the dashboard

806
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:17.760
that says you were looking for people
to join your Joe Danger Party, I

807
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:21.320
said, well, that's just sounds
like Jeff. I don't know, so

808
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:27.760
he's hanging around Danger Party. So
it seems I mean, it's not a

809
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.599
full on sequel. Yeah, definitely. It definitely seems like there's a lot

810
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.360
of the same content. It's it's
the same levels. They've added a new

811
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:37.280
laboratory section and yeah, that's some
new stuff there. And it looks like

812
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:40.239
it doesn't have the ability to put
content on a USB stick and upload it

813
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:45.400
into the game, which PS three
had, which wouldn't surprise me. That

814
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:46.639
sounds like something Microsoft would be like, Oh no, man, no,

815
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:49.880
come on, no, no,
no, no, no, You're lucky

816
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:52.239
to let you send levels to other
players. I'm glad that happened. If

817
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.119
I got your level and then I
sent it back to you, Yeah,

818
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:58.760
I got your level back and then
we got all those points. Yeah that

819
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:00.960
was pretty good. Did you mean
it just be at my level? I'd

820
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:05.280
ever touched your level. All he
did was send you your level back to

821
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.960
get the points, and then it's
the end of my Now, I'm not

822
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.880
gonna I'm not even gonna why bother? I got the points. It's pretty

823
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.840
good. Moving on. I had
a lot of so it was a hard

824
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:17.800
jump, it was what's one hard
jump? And then the finish line.

825
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.800
I like Joe Danger. Yeah,
even if they didn't do anything to it,

826
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.920
if you didn't play Joe Danger before, which said, since it was

827
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:29.760
only on PSN, I totally understand
why people would not have played Joe Danger

828
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:34.199
before. But now Joe Dainger's out
on expect not only as many people have.

829
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:36.400
Yeah, sure, fine, yes, not as me if people buy

830
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.480
shit on PSNA, this is the
sequel on both or just on PSN.

831
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:45.239
No, this is just three sixty
and this is not a sequel. I

832
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.199
I don't know that they've said one
way or another, but I would assume

833
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.880
it would be all over the place
at this point. Get Joe Danger,

834
00:52:53.239 --> 00:53:00.440
Yeah, I play some Terraria ter
Area one point one one is out.

835
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.199
Yeah, what's we talked a little
bit about the one one. Yeah,

836
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:06.760
last week we've been kind of getting
into that. There's a drill that I

837
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.679
hadn't seen before, Adamantium drill that
just fucking plows through stuff. So if

838
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:15.199
you want to cut through things,
you should definitely be looking to try to

839
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.159
build one of those, or just
use the character editor to give yourself one.

840
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:23.320
Download the character editor. It's ridiculous
if you if you don't care about

841
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:27.760
actually crafting any of the things in
that game the right way, you can

842
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:34.639
just go get them. Go get
them, go click a button and I

843
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:37.719
pre ordered Star Wars the Old Republic
this morning because one of us needs to

844
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:42.280
own a copy so we can put
up some videos of it, and we

845
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:44.480
need to pre own it. None
of you slack asses. We're going to

846
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.920
do it. Yeah, yeah,
it's for the standard. I got the

847
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:52.519
digital Deluxe Edition because it came with
a flare gun. Yeah no, no,

848
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:59.679
no, that's the physical Collector's edition
that comes with all that stuff.

849
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:01.920
And then like three and three more
things or something they sold out of some

850
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:06.519
online, some digital versions, yeah
as well. I don't think they did

851
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:08.360
well. I don't know they were
there. There's pre orders for back have

852
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:12.280
been weird because they were limiting them
for a while and trying to make it

853
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.880
look scarce. And then there was
the one where like people ordered and then

854
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:19.280
they're not going to get their actual
copy until like January something. They're physical

855
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.840
people who order the physical Collector's edition
are not getting their stuff until like January.

856
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:28.719
That's yeah, bad news. Remember
there's some other thing too. I

857
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.480
my big mischaracterizing, but basically,
like there was also a problem with like

858
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:34.159
if you were getting the physical copy
early, like if you really get a

859
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.559
copy of it early, like you
won't be able to even though the game

860
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:39.599
will be live in other territories,
like, for example, if you're in

861
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:42.920
North America, get it early.
It's not live North America yet, but

862
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.079
it's live in Europe. Like,
you won't be able to play, You'll

863
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.119
just be sitting with this disc while
all their players are playing. Well,

864
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:52.840
they flip a switch. So they're
having the pre like early game access starts

865
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:59.079
today as of thirteen. And that's
the thing they're rolling people into. It's

866
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:01.559
the language. It was unclear because
they put out a press release last week

867
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:06.519
that said if you if you order
now, you will be able to play

868
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.280
on the thirteenth. I thought,
well, okay, that that seems pretty

869
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:13.639
clear that order now and I'll still
get in on the first day of early

870
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:15.320
game access. But a lot of
the other stuff that they have put up

871
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:19.280
about it says like we're going to
be sending out codes on a first in,

872
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:23.639
first out sort of basis, so
you will get up to seven days

873
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:30.920
of early game access. And and
so i'm I'm I just registered my code

874
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:37.760
on Monday morning, and we'll see
if I get one on to today.

875
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:43.280
It's really hard to keep these states
in line when the official okay next week

876
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.360
officially yeah, next week officially that
all that game will open up, and

877
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:52.480
and yeah, we'll run some videos
of it. That's that I Star Wars.

878
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:54.119
I bought that so we could do
that. Yeah, I'm not convinced

879
00:55:54.159 --> 00:56:00.239
that we'll be Yeah, month three. Yeah, eighty b eighty bucks for

880
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:06.039
the the flare gun for the flare
gun and a STAP which sounds like it's

881
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:09.800
amount of some kind. It's like
a one man vehicle floating platform thing which

882
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:14.119
from my time, which from my
time of the beta running around that starting

883
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:17.199
zone as the Jedi fucking forever.
So hopefully he'll be able to move a

884
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:24.840
little faster. Uh, get their
stap, Stay Stap, you're Scott Stap.

885
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:32.920
Yeah, Scott Stapp. Let's starting
Jesus and rocking shirtlessness. That's I

886
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:43.360
said, Jesus So yeah chest hair
yeah uh yeah, so fringers crossed.

887
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.320
Let's start the door. I just
want to make sure that you know it

888
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:51.559
will bring in by Thursday, so
when Galaxies goes off, we have a

889
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:54.159
place to go. Yeah, go
there directly. Yeah, our our Galaxies.

890
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:58.880
That's that's the only reason I spent
that money. Our Thursday Galaxy is

891
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:01.039
closing event. It's going to be
something special. So you always need a

892
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:06.079
canteen, you know it to be
chancing it exactly. That's yeah, the

893
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:09.400
name of the event. No,
I already have a character in there as

894
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:14.519
the end of Star Wars Galaxies,
and then I rewrote the deck this morning

895
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.239
to say Star Wars Galaxies is about
to become more powerful than you could possibly

896
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:22.280
imagine. Okay, now we're getting
there. And that's the extent of my

897
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:24.519
Star Wars knowledge. So if you
want anything else like that, it's gonna

898
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:34.079
be like Wookie times walk this way, there you go, and you're writing

899
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.480
these down right, I don't know
how you can forget those, Luke Skywalker

900
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:46.480
with two wise welcome to the fuck
shop. Eventually, eventually it just becomes

901
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:51.480
two live crew quotes. So and
no one want, No one benefits from

902
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.119
that crew. They don't even get
anything out of it. And it's not

903
00:57:54.199 --> 00:58:04.119
like Jeff's as Cap or something.
He's not you cap the local for ass

904
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:07.159
cap. That's the way. Yeah. See, I don't I don't think

905
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:13.800
they get we don't. We don't. We don't give me Jeff cents Uncle

906
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.320
Luke, here you go, ninety
three cents. Thanks for everything. XO

907
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:22.639
XO. I wish that your your
mayoral race had gone a little better.

908
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.719
Did he not win? He's not
the mayor, He's not the mayor of

909
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:28.880
Miami. He'll always be the mayor
of Miami as far as I'm concerned,

910
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:36.000
but not the official official. He'll
always be the mayor of Miami. Words

911
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:39.199
Fresh Kid Ice sergeant at arms because
there's other arms in that casts that arms

912
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:43.639
always fucked up. His arms so
screwed up. It would be like if

913
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.679
there's a new new, new,
new two Live crew, Fresh Kid Ice

914
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:51.039
comes back with just sucking one arms
that wants to stop. It's a cyborg

915
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.719
arm. A new new two Live
crews got laser eyes. Would be like

916
00:58:54.800 --> 00:59:00.760
the twenty twenty you'll have crew Brother
Marquis just shooting I beams out. It's

917
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:06.239
just a gas clo. Girls butts
making them bigger, yeah, butt enlargening

918
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:09.119
eye laser technology. And then verb
is there too. They you know,

919
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:13.079
sure he was part of the new
two Live crew and doesn't really count,

920
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.559
but hey, he wasn't even blame
him. He wasn't doing anything. If

921
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.519
someone came to you and said,
we need new people for the two Live

922
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:23.079
crew, you'd be like, dude, let's go in. I'll be in

923
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:27.679
the Two Live Crew. Yeah you
will, I'll be in you and me.

924
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:34.119
We're starting two point zero Live Crew
and can't be on that all right,

925
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:38.480
I'm backing out on Facebook, Patrick
Patrick and being my my web only

926
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:44.320
two Live Crew reimagining. It's a
Tumbler blog, right, Yeah, that's

927
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:46.079
the only place that we publish our
music. It's just a big parental advisory

928
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:50.639
sticker. Well, we only and
we only publish them as matchups. So

929
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.000
there are original tracks, but they're
too You're the man now dog. We

930
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:58.880
use that for like the beat.
Yeah, that's like our standard. So

931
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:06.199
we do that and dub step Tumbler
Tumbler blog. That's it, doubler.

932
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:12.480
That's all I got. Yeah,
yeah, je if you playnything else?

933
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:17.960
What what? Sorry, I'm thinking
two Crew. Sorry, let's let's imagine

934
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:21.840
you're the best two Live Crew video
game. Like, what kind of game

935
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:25.840
would a good two Love Crew game
be? I think it would be Saints

936
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:30.079
Row the Third, but not as
funny, okay, kind of tragic and

937
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:37.480
sad that's always yeah. Yeah,
so the worst version of a game that

938
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.320
already exists. Yeah, so it
probably shouldn't make a two Love Crew video.

939
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:43.440
I don't think they should make a
Two Live Crew video game, okay,

940
01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:46.639
because even if under your your like
dream scenario, it's still kind of

941
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:51.000
a shitty version of an existing game. That's yeah. Either that or it's

942
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.400
an eight bit side scroller, because
that's any time you turn anything into a

943
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:57.800
dumb video you can get away with
that. People just go like, I

944
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:01.559
don't know, it's a bit side
scroller. What would they shoot like eight

945
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:06.559
bit versions of Two Live Crew songs? I know, whatever does sound way

946
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:09.320
better than actual two Love Creui songs, So I don't know. Yeah,

947
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:14.880
problem the bass wouldn't hit as hardst
that Miami bass sound is what you'd be

948
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:16.440
missing there. And I don't think
you know, like eight bit it can

949
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:23.199
hit pretty hard. Songs are pretty
bad, but the bass hits pretty hard.

950
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:27.440
But the problem is that nothing else
does. So if you don't have

951
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:30.440
really great bass, all of their
songs sound terrible. Yeah, I mean

952
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:34.480
it's it's all low end. It's
as a real good mid range, no

953
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.480
mid range freshet ices, voice counts
as trouble, I guess, yeah,

954
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.760
and all and all of the rest
of the drum hits are just super tinny.

955
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:45.159
Yeah, it's been compressed into oblivion. You know mister Mix did not

956
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:47.920
get formal studio training. I'm gonna
guess let's say, you know, they

957
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:51.400
had not a mastering Wizards. They
had their priorities and I get it.

958
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:57.599
The pack Jam Team, Disco bread
Shoemaker. What's going on talking about the

959
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.760
podcast? Was the first time you
got exposed to Two Live Crew mid nineties?

960
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:07.639
Yeah, I guess limited exposure.
Yeah, aware aware of its first

961
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:14.199
time. It was the it was
the first hardcore rap tape you ever heard,

962
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.360
I don't. Jeff and I were
talking about this recently in the car,

963
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:22.960
remember, and I remember, like
the first NWA tape that I had

964
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.519
in my house, I felt like
I had drugs on me. I felt

965
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:29.559
like like if my parents ever found
this, be the fucking end of everything.

966
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:32.760
That big sticker was crazy. Was
like a bootleg tape too, But

967
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:36.960
it was just like I would have
nightmares about my parents accidentally putting this tape

968
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.119
in and playing it and you're going, oh, no, no one could

969
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:43.079
hear this. Hard to think of
Two Live Crew. I'm like, I'm

970
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.159
like, I'm like eleven and I
shouldn't have this. It was a hard

971
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:51.440
core on the same way that NWA. Yeah, that's some hardcore rap.

972
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:55.039
Two Live Crew and two Short was
just like whoa, because I mean it

973
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:58.760
was. It was the difference between
rapping about killing people and the and rapping

974
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:02.280
about fucking or Booty's right, but
you're right, it was. They were

975
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:07.679
basically like a novelty act that they
cursed a lot, and that was the

976
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:09.880
novelty, right, But there was
I guess there was still in their own

977
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:15.719
lives kind of hardcore Crew continued in
the grand traditions of things like Blowfly and

978
01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:22.800
Rudy Ray Moore. Sure, sure, so you know they're making party records.

979
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:28.079
Yeah, party records right. NWA
was just making music to kill people

980
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:32.039
too, Yeah, they had that
was Yeah. When I was when I

981
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:37.239
was in the eighth grade and got
a hold of U easy tape, that

982
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.719
was it. They were angry.
It was over. That was the only

983
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:44.639
music I ever wanted to hear.
Ever again, like yep, if it's

984
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:49.079
not important as this is, then
forget it. It's like, yes,

985
01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:51.840
give me those two short tapes as
well. Let's just keep it all this

986
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:54.519
stuff, Yes, iced Tea's power, let's yes, stack them up,

987
01:03:55.199 --> 01:04:00.400
take these Fresh Prince tapes and we
can put them away. But that part

988
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.280
of my life. But that part
is over. This quame album is fun,

989
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:06.960
but we don't need it any We
don't need it anything. We found

990
01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:13.360
something new, We found something new
over here. This is I don't like

991
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:16.840
cops, mom, Dad, Really, I don't have that much of an

992
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:21.679
opinion about cops. It's really dislike
cops. Eighth grader, It's got a

993
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:26.400
real thing. It's cops. So
true. It was it was probably for

994
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:28.840
Chronic, I guess to answer your
question, it was like it was it

995
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:30.320
was like second generation though. Yeah, but yeah, it was like by

996
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:32.320
the time I got to the Chronic, it was it was like, yeah,

997
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:38.639
like everyone has a copy of it. Yeah, it was. That's

998
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:41.920
I'm not, you know, gonna
disrespect the Chronic. That's still amazing album.

999
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.400
But it was not I feel like
you're removing more towards him the edge.

1000
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:49.159
Yeah, yeah, it was.
It was. It did not seem

1001
01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:54.079
as just like straight up dangerous to
have wed had come in and ruined it

1002
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:59.440
everything, you know, it really
did. Like that last that last NWA

1003
01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:03.679
record that Dre made for him was
like the angriest, craziest, like paranoid,

1004
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:09.840
paranoid, schizophrenic, just just like
bananas. Like he was in a

1005
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:14.159
bad, bad fucking place and it
made for an amazing record and then said,

1006
01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:17.840
hey, chill the fuck out.
It definitely gotta got something for you.

1007
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.760
A lot less people just yelling at
you, like just put it in

1008
01:05:20.840 --> 01:05:25.199
a tape and it's just it'll be
thirty five forty minutes of people just yelling

1009
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:29.119
at you about their ship that's going
on, their mom is terrible, like

1010
01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:31.920
fucking that guy. And then like
it started getting into more about like,

1011
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.880
yeah, you know street jams,
like music, barbecue music, right,

1012
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:40.239
they can kind of put this on
with somebody else in the room. We

1013
01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:42.960
always like, no, no one
else can hear this while I'm hearing this.

1014
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.599
I mean me and my dad would
drive around and listen to n Wave

1015
01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:51.320
and Paula Close one year off,
close enough, good enough for government work.

1016
01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:55.719
I had that experience with User Illusion
two that was it for me where

1017
01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:57.960
my dad heard it and was just
like, yep, you're not listening to

1018
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.079
those Is that the one that had
get in the ring on? It was

1019
01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:04.840
fat as we stopped at the gas
station and I was like, oh man,

1020
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:08.480
I'm gonna put this in while he's
in the store. If he came

1021
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:11.199
back and got in the car right
in the middle of getting the ring nice

1022
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:13.639
break down, he took it out
and he was like, all right,

1023
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:16.880
that's it up. It's not yours
anymore. And then I got it on

1024
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:20.079
CD. I always knew that the
things that I was listening to were not

1025
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:25.119
to be shared. I had my
head, my mom, I think,

1026
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:28.840
write me a note to the record
stores saying, please sell this album to

1027
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:33.519
my son to go buy rap tapes
with dirty lyrics on him. Rap tapes.

1028
01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:39.960
To be fair, they re CDs. Dude wrap tapes were the best,

1029
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:42.320
the stuff that you could only get
on tape, yes, because it

1030
01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:46.480
was like local Bay area rap that
did not deserve to be on a CD.

1031
01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:49.920
So it was just like is in
the case at Watt's Music and you're

1032
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:53.199
just like, yeah, I want
this guy because it's got the guy has

1033
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:58.559
a gun on the cover, and
the guy yeah ill manner posse. That's

1034
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:04.920
when it comes in five the important
important local acts. What were we talking

1035
01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:10.360
about? Terry is all right talking
about two Live Crew, the game,

1036
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:17.679
Brad's pitch for it, Brady playing
a video games played about seven hours do

1037
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:23.679
to two on Sunday. Oh really
sounds in deep already. What's up?

1038
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:26.480
What's up? What are you doing
that game's up. I'm not ready to

1039
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:28.920
talk about it. You're not ready
to talk about two yet. So I

1040
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:33.559
spectated a dot to two match for
about five minutes and couldn't I didn't know

1041
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:36.480
what was going on. Yeah,
so like, do they need to get

1042
01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:41.599
to the buildings? Yes, to
get to the other team's buildings and kill

1043
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:46.119
them. So it's like an RTS. Not really, I couldn't figure out

1044
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:50.480
what was happening, only that anytime
it died, the the the message of

1045
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:54.280
a player dying was not something I
wanted made me want to not want to

1046
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:56.559
play the game ever. Again,
I don't think I wanted to start a

1047
01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:00.440
conversation about two yet. I'm just
saying, just just know the it's begun,

1048
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:05.559
okay, just saying that it was. It's the real learning experience started.

1049
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:10.079
Yeah, okay, is it?
Is it a game you think you

1050
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:14.440
could play? What did I just
say? I just get ready to start

1051
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:15.359
talking about it, all right,
I don't know, we'll see. I

1052
01:08:15.399 --> 01:08:17.960
don't know. It's it's a huge
fucking commitment. I can tell you that.

1053
01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:21.319
Yeah, I don't think it.
I think I think I'm gonna have

1054
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:25.439
to wait for it to be out
of beta because they like learn it button

1055
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.399
is great out right now, so
until they can get that in there,

1056
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:33.159
there's I clicked the on Sunday.
There's some stuff there unit pictures though,

1057
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:39.560
it's it's see what all the units
do? But I need the what the

1058
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:42.560
fuck it? What am I supposed
to do in this video game? It's

1059
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:45.760
some sort of TiAl that says like, yeah, exactly. It's like some

1060
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:51.119
unskippable text that says like listen,
listen just I will say just as a

1061
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:55.279
game that's ready for public consumption,
it's not ready for public consumption. It

1062
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:58.920
is really agree in a lot of
ways. I don't know what it was.

1063
01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:02.279
What's what's your what's your prior experience? I played the mobile, I

1064
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:08.159
played a little bit of DODA and
Warcraft three okay back but like three years

1065
01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:11.880
ago, sure something. I played
like two or three matches of Legal Legends.

1066
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:14.600
Yeah, that's about it. Okay, So no Demigod, No,

1067
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.239
that's right, I did. I
reviewed Demigod, but it's that game was

1068
01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.520
divergent enough that it's not quite the
same thing. I think that game shipped

1069
01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:25.279
with like six maps anything as other
maps, and they're really like I want

1070
01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:27.239
to say, like ten heroes in
the whole game, get right the fun

1071
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:30.640
out of here with different maps,
DODA two is gonna have like over one

1072
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.000
hundred heroes by the time it's hold
on. It sounds about right. Well.

1073
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:38.359
Legal Legends is some crazy numbers way
up there too, Okay, Okay,

1074
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:43.359
is there a Is there a play
versus Cpu option? You basically just

1075
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:45.960
have to make a custom match and
tell it to fill with bots. Okay.

1076
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:47.800
So it's like I said, it's
a lot of that infrastructure stuff is

1077
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:50.359
just not there yet, but it
is possible because that was that was always

1078
01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:53.760
the thing, all right, maybe
I'll try that. In fact, some

1079
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:56.359
of the guys I was playing with
said to just enable sheets when you start

1080
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:59.560
that match and just like max level
your guy and give yourself a shitload of

1081
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.039
gold and just start playing around,
like learn how the abilities work. And

1082
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:06.840
that's not that kind of stuff.
But it went pretty well. I had

1083
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:11.359
some pretty tolerant people helping me out. So I'm still curious if they'll end

1084
01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:14.680
up doing When they first announced that
project, where like you could sun like

1085
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:15.720
they were going like the big thing
was gonna be They're gonna be like a

1086
01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:21.359
mentorship, which I feel like that
game probably unofficially, I have TF two

1087
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:26.600
has something pretty similar to that that'll
be there. That'll definitely be there based

1088
01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.239
on the TF two stuff for sure, which works well. It's smart and

1089
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:33.039
and well done and it you know, they incentivize people going in there and

1090
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:36.840
and actually showing you what the hell. Yeah, these games are actually all

1091
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:40.600
about and I feel like even more
so than I mean t t F two

1092
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:44.880
has a lot of very specific even
amongst at least that is like a shooter

1093
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:48.239
or something, even amongst like class
based class based first person shooters, there

1094
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:53.840
are certain nuances about the way the
systems work that having someone there to kind

1095
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.239
of hand hold you through it could
be useful. And Doda just several times

1096
01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:00.680
over that indeed. Right, well, i'll eat cool your jets on talking

1097
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:05.920
about Doda. Yeah, Kingdom,
those of on the Lure Reckoning you played

1098
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:09.960
that last week for a couple hours? Talk about that? Yeah, about

1099
01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:13.159
two hours? Yeah? Yeah?
Yeah? Where did it where in the

1100
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:15.359
game? It was like two storms
of the way end of the game,

1101
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:17.399
which seems like kind of a weird
place. When I played it, I

1102
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:21.439
created a character from there, so
I guess I'm glad I played a later

1103
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:26.640
Yeah, like a later build they
actually had, so they're correct me if

1104
01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:29.439
I'm wrong. There were no classes, correct, right, Yeah, okay,

1105
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:31.159
so the four saves all at the
same point. This, so this

1106
01:11:31.279 --> 01:11:33.760
was cool. The all four saves
were at the same point in the story.

1107
01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:35.880
Okay, so you could pick up
at the exact same place with all

1108
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:40.239
these different types. Yeah, Like
on the save slots they had names like

1109
01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:43.960
Warrior and Ranger. Yeah, and
I think Sage and stuff like that.

1110
01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:47.920
So so like those are defined based
on like choices you make right later your

1111
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.880
character build, right more or less. I mean, so how the system

1112
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:56.600
works is you've got skill tree stuff
with I believe it's three different schools like

1113
01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:00.119
your warrior it was stealth. It's
like face Warrior, Thief and Magic,

1114
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:04.560
finst Sorcery And might think the names, but you know, you know what

1115
01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:11.439
that means, Magica Stampna. And
you can spec any way you want at

1116
01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:15.680
any time with those points, and
as you spend certain points in each category,

1117
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:20.680
you will unlock different fates that you
can then equip at a fate weaver,

1118
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:26.000
which is just dude in the world, and you will potentially have numerous

1119
01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:29.600
different fates at your disposal at a
given time, and you just equip one

1120
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:36.159
to boost your stats in a specific
way coming from the fates have names,

1121
01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:41.680
so if you spec all in might
uh, then you're going to get warrior

1122
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.399
type fates that then enhance your ability
to play as that type of character.

1123
01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:50.319
And if you play as you know, so you can kind of create your

1124
01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:54.840
battle mages that way, and there
will be fates that you unlock the equip

1125
01:12:55.479 --> 01:12:59.920
and basically give you bonuses to help
make that type of character more vile.

1126
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:01.720
Wait, are those fates are destinies? Sorry, destinies? You're right there,

1127
01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:06.239
there's whists of fate the destinies.
That's I have the term wrong.

1128
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:09.239
Yeah, there's a lot in there. I mean, that's the point is

1129
01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:11.880
that it's like a pretty complex character. You to go to Fate Weaver to

1130
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:15.000
equip your destinies, and you can
swap them out at any time. So

1131
01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:17.960
the Destiny is Brad when we're doing
the when we're taking a look at it,

1132
01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:20.199
which is up on the side now
if you want to look at it.

1133
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:24.640
That's the thing where it's like you
unlocked a new Destiny card, but

1134
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:30.199
you need sixteen points in magics and
thirty two to even equip this. Okay,

1135
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:33.880
so there will be some that you
unlock by getting ten points in each,

1136
01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:38.119
So if you want to play that
kind of jack of all trades type

1137
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:42.000
of role, they will give you
boosts for equiping something, which is great

1138
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:46.239
decision. It's an idea that talking
to them about it, the basic idea

1139
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:48.800
is that they don't want you to
be end up with a character that's not

1140
01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:54.520
viable, so they have created these
things that you can equip to make the

1141
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:58.439
way that you're playing regardless if you're
playing theoretically viable through the entire game,

1142
01:13:58.439 --> 01:14:02.920
instead of having the midmax as well
put together as I think the Skyrim system

1143
01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:05.479
generally is like, it is possible
to kind of spread yourself too thin,

1144
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:09.760
yeah, across too many different skills
and not be very good at anything.

1145
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:12.680
Right, So that was cool.
So yes, that's that's kind of the

1146
01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:15.720
question. Is this is the post
Skyrim world? Yeah, we are now

1147
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:18.560
in a post Skyrim. You've now
played a shitload of sky Rim and then

1148
01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:24.079
played Kingdom of Omelur, which none
of us had really done before. Well,

1149
01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:27.039
I guess Jeff played a decent amount. Yeah, but that was before

1150
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.439
Skyrim. So I'm just saying,
as far as you know, your familiarity

1151
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:32.399
with with Skyrim and the systems there, What do you think of what Ken

1152
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:39.079
Ralston and company are cooking up in
in reckoning, This generally feels like a

1153
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:42.640
really reductive way to cover video games, but it's sometimes it's just hard to

1154
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:45.000
resist the temptation to just like go
down this checklist of like all right,

1155
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:47.520
it's doing this thing from this game
and this thing from this other game.

1156
01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:50.920
Here's what makes this game tick.
And it's just like five different components from

1157
01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:54.399
like five different games. So it's
like, well, it's just it's just

1158
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:59.920
easy. Yeah, it's like the
map from Elder Scrolls and like the combat

1159
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:04.000
of kind of of of a God
of War but maybe not quite as complex,

1160
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:09.479
but pretty close. Like it's combo
base more than just hitting, and

1161
01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:14.680
there will be like pauses in the
combos and stuff are hold down the button

1162
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.439
to branch combos specific ways. Yeah, it felt good, Like it's very

1163
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:20.560
fast paced if you watch the footage
we put up, like you can,

1164
01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:24.439
like on a dime, you can
dodge out of the way of incoming attacks

1165
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:27.079
and stuff like that. It's not
like like Skyrim, you were just going

1166
01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:30.199
to take a certain number of hits
anytime you go into battle, because you're

1167
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:32.840
slow and unwieldy, like you're you're
very maneuverable in this game. It feels

1168
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:35.720
more like a character action game in
that respect, but like the town and

1169
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:41.119
quest structure of like World of Warcraft
actually is what it felt like to me.

1170
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:43.520
I don't know if it ever struck
you that way. I mean it

1171
01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:46.039
struck me as as an Elder Scrolls
game and a lot of that stuff.

1172
01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:49.399
I mean, it's it's real.
There's real, superficial stuff like yellow exclamation

1173
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:53.159
marks overhead. Well, yeah,
there is that, but also like I

1174
01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:55.560
picked up more than one, like
hey go kill Aten of this thing.

1175
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.720
Stuff like that. I didn't I
didn't get the sense there is quite as

1176
01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:03.000
much choice in what you're doing,
and even then the ways that you're interacting

1177
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:04.439
with the world. I don't.
I don't. I don't really know.

1178
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:09.800
I mean there there is. I
think you will make choices on dialogue wheel

1179
01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:15.119
how you'll solve oct It seemed like
there's a speech check too, for speech

1180
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:18.840
checks. Yeah, there's definitely supporting
points into some kind of when you go

1181
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:21.560
to jail, you get one lock
pick and maybe you can get out,

1182
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:26.720
like it's a lock picking mini games. Very similar, yeah, very similar.

1183
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:30.359
Yeah, you guys are joking.
No, No, I'm saying,

1184
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:33.840
like, like, down to that
stuff. They know mini games basically the

1185
01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:40.479
same. These guys worked on some
Elder Scrolls games some other one. Your

1186
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:44.560
helmet comes off there and cut scenes
and notice that's appreciated. Yeah, look

1187
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:49.000
like, uh, there's a character
creator that you can define what your character

1188
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:51.960
looks like. It's not presets,
No, it's not. Yea. So

1189
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:58.840
how that works is you are basically
uh dead at the beginning of that game

1190
01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:05.720
or or they, so you are
the regular people of that world are fighting

1191
01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:11.199
against an enemy that totally regenerates and
comes back to life. That sucks,

1192
01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:14.520
yeah, which makes it real hard. So there are people slaving away in

1193
01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:17.600
some tower somewhere trying to figure out
how to do that for humans and whatever

1194
01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:20.560
other races are involved in this,
and you were the first one that works.

1195
01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:24.600
You're special. So yeah, it's
like it's the way they do it

1196
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:28.640
is you're under a sheet because you're
supposedly dead. Then you design the look

1197
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:30.119
at your character, look in the
mirror, and wake up on a pile

1198
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:33.560
of bodies because you've been cast off. Oh they thought you were actually failed,

1199
01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:38.039
which is kind of a cool setup. For the beginning of the game,

1200
01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:41.720
I thought, and also justifiles you
know you're yeah, yeah, totally

1201
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:45.159
you're but you're under the sheet so
you don't see what they look like until

1202
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:46.840
you get to the you know,
sort of like the cart at the beginning

1203
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:49.119
of Skyroom. You know, you
don't have to define what you look like

1204
01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:55.560
until you get to a point where
it's key that look like something. Yeah.

1205
01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:59.800
I thought the combat felt pretty good. It's pretty quick. I got

1206
01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:01.880
my sneak on, you know,
attactive dude from the back. Yeah,

1207
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:08.359
some some good combat would make the
difference to me and the third person basically

1208
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.279
just more shung off of my dude. That's what I always want that.

1209
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:13.520
Yeah. Like the I mean,
the lute lust is definitely there. It's

1210
01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:16.800
all color coded to see it on
your guys as equip Lute management seems like

1211
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:23.079
well done together, like the menus, and there's inventory, is that right?

1212
01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:26.439
I think it's just a number of
slots as far as I So,

1213
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.279
I asked you during the quick luck
and I can't quite remember what your answer

1214
01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:31.640
was, but I think I remember
being kind of disappointing. But the stuff

1215
01:18:31.640 --> 01:18:33.560
that you picked up in near plate, Theroo and Jeff I don't know what

1216
01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:39.359
you picked up armor set wise,
Uh, just variations on the on the

1217
01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:43.479
similar sets kind of more like torchlight
or is it is it like very radically

1218
01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:46.560
different? Like will you be picking
up stuff that makes you look uh liked?

1219
01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:49.119
It looks like the varieties there that
you'll like as soon as you equip

1220
01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:53.000
these, you know, chess pieces
or something. I don't know that I've

1221
01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:56.119
played enough spent enough time to really
answer, though, I think the armor

1222
01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:58.920
does is supposed to look different.
I mean they're definitely I think our set

1223
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:02.039
bonuses for types of armor too,
if I'm not mistaken. There's definitely definitely

1224
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:05.239
some variety. Like you're just talking
about the visual design, Yeah, like

1225
01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:08.920
you know, like one of those
things when when you have a big game

1226
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:11.239
like that and you have a lot
of loot, it's great when you pick

1227
01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:13.560
up something that just looks one.
I'm sure there will be some really cool

1228
01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:15.960
on alandish and unique stuff, but
I'm sure there will also be plenty of

1229
01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.840
retextured swords and shields of sh I
just have the varieties there, and it's

1230
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:24.159
not just like three different types of
like I mean the Eagle Moon armor.

1231
01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:27.239
So there there was a point where
I had like three helmets in my inventory

1232
01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:30.199
and two I'm looked exactly the same
when equipped, but the blue one looks

1233
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:34.880
unique and was best spark. Yeah. Yeah, that was my biggest problem

1234
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:40.359
with the Torchlight was the there were
like three different I mean, I just

1235
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:42.319
thought that was made by a small
team. You know, Yes, they

1236
01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:45.640
can really chure out art assets all
day. Nakham didn't really have. I

1237
01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:50.439
guess it did have still fair mental
loot. Oh yeah, it was just

1238
01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:54.840
it was like kind of the same. It was that was real. That

1239
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:57.399
was real, wind sucker, That's
what it was. Was kind of realizing,

1240
01:19:57.479 --> 01:20:00.600
oh, I'm not gonna look that
different. Might change my because you

1241
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:03.880
see your guy the whole time and
then he's all the third person. Absolutely,

1242
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:10.279
it looked it looked fun. Crazy
blade rings one of the weapon types.

1243
01:20:10.279 --> 01:20:14.520
I thought it was kind of throwing
chacras. I think they're chokraate.

1244
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:16.319
You throw them, you slice with
them, kind of cut those the ones

1245
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:19.159
where it's like kind of a curved
blade that goes around your hands. Yeah

1246
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:21.239
yeah, I had some of those. Yeah, all right, but the

1247
01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:26.439
character they were calling me wock you
had like things that look kind of like

1248
01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:29.319
that, except through them and they
came back to you. There close a

1249
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:30.479
cool weapon. So I mean,
yeah, there's a ton of variety and

1250
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.960
in the combat options and stuff like
that. It's really striking to pull up

1251
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:39.319
the map because that looks like a
familiar map, you know, just like

1252
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:42.840
every location that you've discovered dotted as
a little old icon in the map,

1253
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:45.039
and you click on it and fast
travel to it and you're right there.

1254
01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:50.039
You have the same zoom. Not
quite I mean, you know, artistically

1255
01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:54.319
doesn't look quite safe, but but
the functionality is absolutely there. I stole

1256
01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:58.000
something from a chest and then a
guard had his word with some something things

1257
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:04.119
to say to me. It's like
very elder square. Yeah you can sneak

1258
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:08.840
up behind people and pickpocket them.
Yeah, stuff like that. But the

1259
01:21:10.520 --> 01:21:13.920
the landmask does not feel open in
the same way. I mean, like

1260
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:15.720
it's hard to judge until you play
the final game, but just like jumping

1261
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:17.760
around the map, because most of
it was unlocked, it looked like a

1262
01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:21.039
lot of the places I was fast
traveling into had like very constrained kind of

1263
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:25.600
like almost cord or kind of design. Even when you're out, feel like

1264
01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:30.399
there's a mountain, there's like it's
like a lot of artificial channel canyons,

1265
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:35.680
and and we had that we there
is up on the site. You get

1266
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:39.720
a sense of that of like this
is you're in this valley, yeah,

1267
01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:42.119
and like there are a big cliff
walls out of the shot where you're in

1268
01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:45.359
this cave and that's your movement is
very like channeled, you know, or

1269
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:50.000
like they're they're directing you along pretty
but there are towns. Definitely, it

1270
01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:53.800
seems like a new game with a
lot of a lot of solid elements from

1271
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:58.359
from other games. And that's due
out soon, right in February. That's

1272
01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:01.199
kind of like that's that's where all
of sky Rims and really kind of the

1273
01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:04.840
Elder Scrolls, Heart and Soul comes
from. Is you walk ten feet out

1274
01:22:04.840 --> 01:22:10.880
of town and then go directly off
the road and into some wilderness and find

1275
01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:15.039
a crazy quest or right, yeah, well there's definitely definitely some interesting quests

1276
01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:16.880
out there. Yeah, I just
I don't know that it didn't feel like

1277
01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:19.760
it had quite the same scope to
me. Well, Skyriman fall Out also

1278
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:25.920
benefit from the navigational compass that basically
has the faintest hint of gray on it.

1279
01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:28.720
And then I should go find out
what that weird looking thing is on

1280
01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:31.079
that. Oh, now, there's
seventeen other things on there. I'm never

1281
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:33.720
I don't even know where I am. How does it I'm in the middle

1282
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:40.760
of nowhere fighting this bear monster?
What the fuck? I need those belts?

1283
01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:43.920
I snuck up behind a sleeping bear
and stabbed in the back. Did

1284
01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:45.840
it's got an art style to it? I was gonna ask, like,

1285
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:50.680
what's the that is also maybe a
little world of warcraftish or a little fable

1286
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:55.000
esque, especially the animals, at
least the wolves and the bears. It's

1287
01:22:55.039 --> 01:22:58.239
all a little bit exaggerated. Sure
I wouldn't go as far as call it

1288
01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:02.840
like cartoonish, but yeah, they're
not stylis like that hard edged realism.

1289
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:06.960
I noticed the most on the bear. Yeah, the dudes just look like

1290
01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:12.720
dude, very colorful, very very
like saturated looking game. You're patrick,

1291
01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:15.000
you were gonna, Oh, I
was wondering one of the big like advanced

1292
01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.319
in skyrom is kind of how you
manage like all these different like you know,

1293
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:19.840
this big world with all these quests, Like, did you get any

1294
01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:23.800
sense of like how you're managing all
of that stuff? Just quest walk It's

1295
01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:27.960
a it's a big list of quests
they're broken out into there's like story quests,

1296
01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:31.119
uh, side quests, faction quests. There may have been one other

1297
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.720
category, but it is. It
is just a list in your menu.

1298
01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:41.600
So there's a ask whatever, what
do we call it? What it is?

1299
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:46.359
Yeah? Okay whatever suits. That
makes it sound like there's a document

1300
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:54.600
we burned through somebody pms me asking
what the difference is? Taste? Just

1301
01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:58.720
let it taste about the same.
But yeah, you know it's kosher,

1302
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:02.640
unlike the other which was not.
So yes, it's under new management.

1303
01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:06.560
Yeah, pretty much. But there's
a video of that. If you guys

1304
01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:12.760
watching Brad play and then Vinny,
you're talking to him as much question being

1305
01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:15.199
like, hey, what's going on
here? He's going, hey, what

1306
01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:17.880
is this? What is that?
And what it is? We tell you

1307
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:24.720
man, it's coming out at a
good time. February is probably a right

1308
01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:28.880
around the time when people will be
sun with Sky largely done with He'll see

1309
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:32.159
probably won't be out. Weighs off
absolutely, so I think in terms of

1310
01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:39.520
when they could have ever dropped that
game, that's probably eat. I means

1311
01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:42.000
he is putting it out, so
it's action. We're nded enough. I

1312
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:45.560
could see it maybe appealing to a
slightly different audience. Sure, maybe I

1313
01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:48.680
haven't seen curious to see how they
how they end up positioning it, if

1314
01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:53.000
they position it at all. He
has kind of just been throwing their partners

1315
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:56.359
games under the bus. Yeah,
they have still don't like that name at

1316
01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:59.479
all. They have not been getting
name it works against that game partners yea,

1317
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:05.319
bro, No, I think Kingdoms
of Amelor is okay. It's the

1318
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:10.319
part where everyone just refers to it
as reckoning, as if like that's a

1319
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:15.199
distinct name with any sort of identity. It's because we don't have any fucking

1320
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:18.840
relationship with the Kingdoms of Amelor name, and reckoning is easier and faster to

1321
01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:23.399
say. I guess, but it
almost did. It almost seems like,

1322
01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:28.640
no, we're just calling it reckoning. Oh you think that's coming from like

1323
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:31.000
the EA side, Yeah, yeah, I think so. I'm gonna drop

1324
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:38.920
then yeah, right, modern modern
reckoning. And it's just such a generic

1325
01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:43.199
way to refer to that game.
That's just well, reckonings are pretty generic

1326
01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:45.399
subtitle totally. You have proc your
reckoning power? Is that right, like

1327
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:50.000
you go into reckoning mode or something
there is your fake shift kills? Is

1328
01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:54.319
that when it goes all blue,
Yeah, super blue, and you do

1329
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:57.359
like a little quick time me thing. The faster you hammer the button,

1330
01:25:57.399 --> 01:26:00.399
the more experience you get. Really
sweet. Oh man, that's that doesn't

1331
01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:05.560
sound great. She's saying that she
just control it has the turbo buttonbo and

1332
01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:11.159
it doesn't work quite that way.
And it's also not as a fence sounds.

1333
01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:14.520
Do you hit like a limit real
fast like you hit there. It's

1334
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:17.119
like it's like just hit it three
times. There's kill him anyway, but

1335
01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:19.800
you could. There's a small fun
out amount of experience you can get off

1336
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:21.880
with this, and if you hit
it like ten times, you can hit

1337
01:26:23.079 --> 01:26:26.399
und percent of experience. It's not
that fact. Just keep scaling infinitely,

1338
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:30.640
I'd be crazy. And this is
there any literature out yet for Amalor?

1339
01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:34.840
Oh man? They put up a
website that doesn't like the history of amalor

1340
01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:38.880
Or, like covering the ten thousand
years between. It's gotta be a novel

1341
01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:42.479
this and the MMO and yeah,
I'm sure they'll be novels. Was a

1342
01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:48.880
salvatory was like the fantasy writer ten
thousand years say it's gonna be out there.

1343
01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:53.840
Actually I could see him delegating that, just saying like, well,

1344
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:57.279
I'm not gonna chan just I hope
at the fiction Master, but you know

1345
01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:00.840
some other like second second string writer. Actually, yeah, I figured there'd

1346
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:03.000
be the franchise would have kicked off
by now by the time the first game

1347
01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:09.279
is released, that they would be
a collectible card game, desk top top

1348
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:12.920
game. Yeah, an iPhone app
that's like a you know, got the

1349
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:17.279
whole Codex in it, and like
all the tips, official Bloody Sock comes

1350
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:21.960
with the pre order editions. Sure
up the Partners game, so they don't

1351
01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:27.520
they don't own the IP that would
That would be my assumption of why they

1352
01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:31.880
would not push the Kingdoms of Amalor
part right, because the yeah, so

1353
01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:35.199
like we don't get we get we
care about the reckoning part, which is

1354
01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:39.960
the game you guys are putting out
with us. Yeah, uh and yeah,

1355
01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:44.680
I don't know that the whole the
whole branding there is not the strongest.

1356
01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:47.800
Hopefully that doesn't Just like even just
Amalor sounds like it'd be better at

1357
01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:53.439
least has some sort of It's just
it's I think it just comes back to

1358
01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:59.119
the weirdness of that whole deal of
of this MMO that we still don't know

1359
01:27:59.359 --> 01:28:02.600
technically the name of that's been in
development forever. Yeah, under these weird

1360
01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:06.760
conditions, and like this is supposed
to be I spin off from that,

1361
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:12.840
but we're gonna see this before we
ever know the name of the actual game.

1362
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:16.399
It's because off from this game was
in development first as something else,

1363
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:21.479
and then it just happens to fit
into the floor. Yeah, like they

1364
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:27.319
scrapped it and started over, but
used a lot of the ideas. So

1365
01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:30.560
yeah, I don't know that all
that stuff is super weird. And the

1366
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:34.920
way EA has not really been given
their partners deals the love that I feel

1367
01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:40.680
they have like a pr And also
you have to imagine if Mass Effect is

1368
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:44.399
coming out, they don't have a
whole lot of incentive to really push another

1369
01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:47.720
RPG. This is like a good
solid month before Mass Effect. I guess

1370
01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:50.720
I bet three is more important.
It looked like there was a lot in

1371
01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:53.600
this game, but I bet you
could buy it and be done with it

1372
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:59.840
by the time Mass Fact came out. Depending Well, yeah, I would

1373
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:01.119
would argue, I mean, it's
different teams, but I would I would

1374
01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:10.600
agree with Patrick's argument that the larger
EA organization cares more about it, which

1375
01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:15.199
you think of the music that's ah
that was one track in particular that I

1376
01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:18.319
can absolutely hear, the Viva Pinata. Okay, all right, was that

1377
01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:21.119
guy fantastic? A lot of it. A lot of it was just sort

1378
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:27.880
of like generic big orchestral fantasy stuff. But you could tell a couple of

1379
01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:30.600
times they've assembled quite a crew over
there and could tell some big names.

1380
01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:33.960
Yeah, yeah, that's that's.
I read a little bit about Ken Ralston

1381
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:36.600
and I'm like, he's not just
the oblivion guy. Yeah, he's also

1382
01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:40.399
the moral wins guy. And before
that he was like a big pen and

1383
01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:44.359
paper role playing guy. Like he's
like a really esteemed RPG design he was

1384
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:47.239
lead designers, like he was like
like what just under Howard? I don't

1385
01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:50.159
know, I like it. My
my impression is that he's like a numbers

1386
01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:55.880
guy or you know, he's like
his systems like an RPG like mechanical systems

1387
01:29:55.920 --> 01:30:00.600
kind of guy. But there's a
lot of pedigree though. Absolutely sure you've

1388
01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:04.279
been that pays off. I was
gonna talk to Brad some more. Oh

1389
01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:08.399
you got more. So we all
all three of us played trines who today

1390
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:12.640
we did. We got a quick
look of that coming up, very beautiful.

1391
01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:17.000
Look, it looks really nice looks
amazing, but it's trying. Oh

1392
01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:23.039
my god, the same characters with
Warrior, and that was the same three

1393
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:26.239
characters. What I'm like, halfway
through the game. What there's like some

1394
01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:30.760
art out there that has like portraits
of the three on one side of like

1395
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:32.600
the little Masthead, and then there's
like portraits of three other characters on the

1396
01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:39.039
other side. I don't know what
the characters it's It's not gonna happen.

1397
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:42.920
There's no way there're other playable kame
But how awesome would it be how you'd

1398
01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.960
fit six players into any of those
situations that they have to imagine they would

1399
01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:48.039
just be like re skins of the
same building. I mean even just the

1400
01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:56.560
camera angle like that thing can't zoom
out completely flips over. You don't want

1401
01:30:56.600 --> 01:30:58.800
this Warrior, you get a different
one. That's not gonna happen. There's

1402
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:01.920
no way I want off it was. I want the lost vikings in that

1403
01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:08.159
game that that piece of promotional art
peaked my curios. It is a very

1404
01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:13.439
iterative sequel. It looks awesome,
it looks it looks incredible, like in

1405
01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:15.680
a really sickly sweet like I can't
look at this for more than like two

1406
01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:17.920
levels kind of way. It's like
I feel like I need to go brush

1407
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:20.720
my teeth. It's just it's just
nice to see some color. It is

1408
01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:25.119
really oversaturated. There's a lot of
like colored light blooms and stuff, you

1409
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:28.000
know what I mean. Like,
yeah, almost every level that I've played

1410
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:31.600
has a rainbow at some point.
Furthermore, also, there's depth. There's

1411
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:36.039
depth to the backgrounds and depth to
the color within the background. Like it's

1412
01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:39.720
not just like, oh, we
bathed all of these layers in the background

1413
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:42.239
in red, and they'll do it. So what's going on there? We're

1414
01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:45.880
publishing and release stuff. Is it
just are they figured it all? That

1415
01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:48.159
is coming out on all platforms?
Yeah, it's It came out on PC

1416
01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:55.680
and MAC already and next week next
week for three sixty is putting out the

1417
01:31:55.680 --> 01:31:59.399
Consulate versions. Okay, And I
guess they must have self published on because

1418
01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:02.680
no Atlas logo on the PC version. There's totally an ALTS logo on the

1419
01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:06.680
PC versus that I played. Sure, yeah, because I remember thinking how

1420
01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:10.119
weird it was that there was an
Atlas logo at the front of a PC.

1421
01:32:11.640 --> 01:32:14.880
He said that out loud, and
I remember it. Wow, I

1422
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:18.119
must have totally glossed over. I
think you rebooted it, and I could

1423
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:23.119
have. I don't remember seeing I
don't remember seeing it. But when I

1424
01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:25.840
was playing and it was the trying
to beta, it was not final.

1425
01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:29.800
So maybe maybe maybe there was a
holdover from the I don't know. I

1426
01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:31.520
don't know, I don't know.
Maybe they just decided it. Hey,

1427
01:32:31.640 --> 01:32:34.880
it looks fucking weird when our logo
comes up on this PC game. Let's

1428
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:40.079
just there's there's an SRB we started, there's the frozen by logo on the

1429
01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:42.439
d all. I remember, man, we gotta go launch that game.

1430
01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:46.800
The check Trying was a cluss track
because the game weird, the game because

1431
01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:50.000
they only came out of PS three, but because the game got rejected to

1432
01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:54.840
like a code error at the last
second, screwed up because I no no

1433
01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:57.640
for the original trying on p S
three. Yeah, like and so it

1434
01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:03.720
got screwed up as schedule, and
uh they had like basically well yeah,

1435
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:09.920
like basically what happened. They announce
an XBLA version and then did like they

1436
01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:13.359
get like the pitch got rejected by
Microsoft. Okay, like they said we're

1437
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:18.600
putting out one for XBLA. It
hadn't gone through like approval, so somehow,

1438
01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:21.640
like through the different machinations like it
did, it didn't get approved,

1439
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:25.640
so they couldn't release the XBLA,
so it became a PSN only thing they

1440
01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:28.079
had. They had a code error, and then it came out really like

1441
01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:30.960
the same situation, like really late
in the year. Time was lagged way

1442
01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:34.239
behind the PC version, right like
I was like the PC version was over

1443
01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:36.760
and done with by the time the
PS three one came right yeah, and

1444
01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:42.479
then it wasn't reversion. The frame
rate was not super great, and it

1445
01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.800
didn't control as well. It was
kind of a mess. So this is

1446
01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:49.720
why this is better rolling out still
not great because they didn't even announce the

1447
01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:53.039
release date until like two days before
it came out, all right, he

1448
01:33:53.159 --> 01:33:56.760
was trying to I think it's because
they were this was not desperately trying to

1449
01:33:56.800 --> 01:33:59.800
finish it. Probably it was one
of those games. I think everyone would

1450
01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:00.960
just assumed it was going to push
into the next year, and and every

1451
01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:04.800
time they'd be like, no,
it's still might have been might have been

1452
01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:09.720
better in January maybe, So there's
like nothing to play right now, I've

1453
01:34:09.720 --> 01:34:11.840
already played here all though. It
just and it's a three player game,

1454
01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:15.920
so out December twentieth, Like you
know, you'll be around friends and family

1455
01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:19.640
anyway. It's like a really good
fun cop game. Cool. Yeah,

1456
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:23.279
it's still a ton of fun.
I mean, cop is the way to

1457
01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:26.840
play it. You can play a
single players I played through the whole first

1458
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:29.439
game by myself. I've been playing
through this one at home by myself.

1459
01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:31.680
But then we did that quick look
and now I'm starting to wonder myself,

1460
01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:34.720
and we grieved the ship out of
you. It's a totally different online.

1461
01:34:35.319 --> 01:34:38.600
So yeah, that's kind of I
guess you could say the biggest addition to

1462
01:34:38.680 --> 01:34:41.560
this is that you can play it
online co op. Now, it's kind

1463
01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:44.720
of the features it should have had. Yeah, it absolutely should have had

1464
01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:47.920
that the first time a small team. How did it work with the controllers

1465
01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:50.920
on the piece? Once everybody's in
there, it's fine. Okay, It's

1466
01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:56.119
a little finicky to get started.
The menus are not set up super well

1467
01:34:56.199 --> 01:34:59.920
to get all that stuff kind of
assigned, like assigning players to control.

1468
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.279
It's really rock band and yeah,
like we couldn't figure out how to go

1469
01:35:02.439 --> 01:35:06.279
from keyboards who controller at first?
Like one character was locked with keyboards.

1470
01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:10.840
The menu settings are we did it. We did it. We did with

1471
01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:15.920
all three of us using controllers.
Yeah, we were just using three sixty

1472
01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:17.199
controls. It's kind of the way
the plan. Yeah, it's it's it

1473
01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:19.439
is a very different game with three
people. I mean, the whole thing

1474
01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:24.479
is just like a physics, physics
based sandbox platformer. You know, there's

1475
01:35:24.600 --> 01:35:29.399
leaves, there's leaves. My god, dude, Like a lot of a

1476
01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:32.199
lot of the materials stuff seems improved
in this, Like there's there's fluidnam I

1477
01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:39.600
don't remember trying one being particularly impressive
in the visuals. It's really nice looking.

1478
01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:43.279
I think it's like those both of
those games are like it's it's not

1479
01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:45.119
it's not a matter of scope or
scale. It's not like you're seeing it

1480
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:49.640
do anything you haven't seen done before. It's it's keeping it still in a

1481
01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:54.640
pretty small focus. It's just the
you know, the detail and the light

1482
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:59.119
of that really really strong art and
color palettes. But I think it's it's

1483
01:35:59.159 --> 01:36:01.399
not the kind of thing that you
just look at and are immediately blown away

1484
01:36:01.479 --> 01:36:04.399
by. It was more subtle than
the first one. It was just like,

1485
01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:06.640
this is a really nice looking platform, but this one, this one

1486
01:36:06.720 --> 01:36:11.560
is eye popping. I would say
they're really pushing three D and videos out

1487
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:15.760
there, like beating the pr drum
about three D vision in this game.

1488
01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:17.479
And I would actually like to see
it in three D because there's a ton

1489
01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:20.920
of depth in the scenes. It's
just red blue. Uh no, it's

1490
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:29.520
there. It's there, like proprietary
glasses, glasses, the active shutter special

1491
01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:31.439
and you don't think you just need
one hundred with the in video stuff.

1492
01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:36.680
You actually can turn on a red
blue mode but get it too as well.

1493
01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:41.159
I don't know, let's hope,
let's try that. Got all those

1494
01:36:41.239 --> 01:36:44.720
glasses. But they they've they've added
like iteratively, they've added a lot of

1495
01:36:44.760 --> 01:36:47.399
stuff to use those same abilities on. You know, there's like there's air

1496
01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:53.199
currents and and fluid like water stuff
to deal with. I think the Wizard

1497
01:36:53.239 --> 01:36:57.680
has been unless you've seen different,
the Wizard's gotten the most more new things

1498
01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:00.319
to all. It's all stuff for
the Wizard, and the Night has not

1499
01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:03.199
really changed he has yet. Did
he have a hammer in the first yammer?

1500
01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:06.920
But yeah, the the was it
the Thief and the Warrior, I

1501
01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:12.439
haven't haven't really changed that the Wizard. The Wizard gets all the new Uh

1502
01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:15.560
definitely made me realize, like the
Wizard is the lynchpin of the puzzle solving

1503
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:18.039
operations, your ring leader. It's
the guy who needs to know. Like

1504
01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:21.159
everyone else can just be fucking around
for the most part, but if your

1505
01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:24.439
wizard doesn't know what they're doing,
is it will be stuck. Are you

1506
01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:29.199
still drawing? That's exactly the same
stuff. That's that's that's what I mean

1507
01:37:29.239 --> 01:37:31.159
about it being very iterative. You
know if you still draw boxes and planks?

1508
01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:34.600
Uh, and is an important man
to have. Definitely, I'm shoot

1509
01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:38.520
narrows, some grappling. Well,
there were cases where like in the Wizard

1510
01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:41.359
boxes, there are cases where like
there are like troughs that you need to

1511
01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:45.279
use the Wizard to like prop up
with boxes to make water flow the right

1512
01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:47.520
way. But then the night would
get under the spout and use his shield

1513
01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:50.159
to like make the water run off
the shield into the trough and steam.

1514
01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:55.560
Yeah, neat stuff. I mean, there are definitely other ways. I

1515
01:37:55.600 --> 01:37:57.640
mean, that was the great thing
about the first game is that every puzzle

1516
01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:00.800
could be solved like five different ways
just switching character. It makes you always

1517
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:02.399
feel like you are coming up with
the solution on your own instead of just

1518
01:38:02.520 --> 01:38:05.319
like here's here's the one way they
defined that this thing could be done,

1519
01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:09.479
And now I've done it. But
you can actually there are achievements that they

1520
01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:11.960
weren't in the first one, or
maybe they were achievements of the PC version.

1521
01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:15.279
But you can finish the game with
every character by themselves there without ever

1522
01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:18.279
switching. Yeah, there's an achievement
for it's just for finishing one level with

1523
01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:21.479
the same character without switching. But
the entire game, at least the first

1524
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:26.000
one was beatable with a single character. It's very difficult because, yeah,

1525
01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:29.600
you have to get real creative with
the solutions. But the night was always

1526
01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:32.680
the one that's the most difficult because
he has like because the thief can jump

1527
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:36.880
around, so she can grapple on
the strad was it was like easy mode

1528
01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:40.600
wizards and stack boxes. So yeah, so I've been I put all of

1529
01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:43.640
my points into wizard upgrades, Like
that's like what else would you do?

1530
01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:47.880
You know, like who needs fire
arrows and an ice hammer when you can

1531
01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:50.960
make like four boxes to climb on? You know? That's that's what I

1532
01:38:50.960 --> 01:38:54.760
worry about co op. That if
if you're playing entirely co op and and

1533
01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:58.520
you weren't like actively switching characters like
get people a little more variety, like

1534
01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:01.199
being the night for the entire game. In a coop game, probably wouldn't

1535
01:39:01.279 --> 01:39:04.000
like you would have to grieve because
you just wouldn't have that much to do

1536
01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:09.000
that. That's the reason the combats
like serviceable. But you're just bashing on

1537
01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:11.680
on the X button like it's it's
not. It's like when it's the one

1538
01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:15.119
time the Wizard has to go like, hey guys, pretty much. Yeah,

1539
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:17.039
the Wizards back off for a second, has very little to contribute to

1540
01:39:17.359 --> 01:39:20.680
Did you guys fight these dudes?
It's weird, lizardman. I mean that

1541
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:23.720
is the reason I like playing it
by myself, as you get to play

1542
01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:26.720
everything. Yeah, so maybe cops
wanted to dip into but if you really

1543
01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:30.399
want to get the full sense of
things, you want to be the Wizard.

1544
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:31.960
Yeah, it's the Wizards game.
Everyone else is just playing in it.

1545
01:39:32.199 --> 01:39:36.239
It's yeah, but it seems it's
really cool so far, so review

1546
01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:41.640
forthcoming of that, we'll figure out
what's up those console versions cool. Get

1547
01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:45.039
back to you, all right,
that's anything else you want to get back

1548
01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:47.960
to me about. Okay, would
you play Ryan? What did I play?

1549
01:39:48.039 --> 01:39:50.039
Would you would you play Ryan?
What did I play? Would you

1550
01:39:50.119 --> 01:39:56.239
play? I played some Apples to
Apples? Oh yeah, on the Xbox

1551
01:39:56.319 --> 01:40:00.119
three sixty and more Apples to Apples. I played a little more Apple to

1552
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:03.319
Apples. Yeah, I played some. I played some Xbox Live Apples to

1553
01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:08.880
Apples. That uh, that was
Apples to Apples for as much as like

1554
01:40:09.039 --> 01:40:12.600
the single player and the local multiplayer
were like, we kind of took some

1555
01:40:12.680 --> 01:40:15.239
Apples Apples ideas and I don't know
we made these other games with them.

1556
01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:20.920
It's close. This was just straight
up like six players, everyone has their

1557
01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:25.079
handful of cards. They made an
Apples to Apple's ass Apples to Apples,

1558
01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:30.039
gud okay, they did. They
did a to a U. I'll tell

1559
01:40:30.039 --> 01:40:33.199
you. I'll tell you what it
was like. More than the kind of

1560
01:40:33.239 --> 01:40:38.000
the weird gameplay systems that they that
they introduced for like the local multiplayer where

1561
01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.880
everyone can see each other's cards or
where it's the big grid where everyone chooses

1562
01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:46.000
from, I feel like those modes
they're giving a lot more a lot,

1563
01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:50.279
a lot more of the cards that
you're getting could be like the quote unquote

1564
01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:55.359
right answer. I feel like there
was more randomness to the cards that I

1565
01:40:55.439 --> 01:41:00.479
was getting in the proper XBLA game, which was better because is like that

1566
01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:04.359
game is all about like weird interpretation
of of like what the answer could be

1567
01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:10.520
and when like there's like you know, on the like the board version,

1568
01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:14.359
the local multiplayer board version, where
it seems like bo all of these answers

1569
01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:17.439
kind of relate to the topic at
hand or could be related to the topic

1570
01:41:17.479 --> 01:41:20.760
at hand, but there's there's kind
of a right answer. A lot of

1571
01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:24.800
the times I felt like we ran
to that several times during the quick look

1572
01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:28.680
of like yeah, that was that
was the right answer. It only was

1573
01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:31.680
when the player was a lunatic like
Brett Muir that that wasn't the answer they

1574
01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:34.319
got hy Man, Him and I
are in the same wave like you just

1575
01:41:34.359 --> 01:41:38.439
because just because you every single time, even though he would tell you,

1576
01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:40.920
don't pick the right answer because I'm
not going to pick that one, you

1577
01:41:40.960 --> 01:41:43.800
would always try and pick the right
answer. Well until he picked the right

1578
01:41:43.800 --> 01:41:45.840
answer well once, but well I'll
tell you this, of the online mode

1579
01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:50.359
online games that I've played, I've
won them all, so so my picking

1580
01:41:50.399 --> 01:41:54.199
the right answer, those those people
are just being too literal. That's no

1581
01:41:54.319 --> 01:41:57.760
fun. Apples to apples, do
you find the social aspect there all that

1582
01:41:57.880 --> 01:42:00.920
stuff. Does it kind of just
drive it's gone, it's dead. Yeah.

1583
01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:03.079
The social part was me and my
girlfriend's here on the couch playing as

1584
01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:06.119
one player. So I could see
that being really dry. Yeah, like

1585
01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:10.800
you could play that if you're playing
that with friends, if everyone ponies up

1586
01:42:11.039 --> 01:42:15.359
and plays Apples it on you're chatting
about it, like that could be great

1587
01:42:15.399 --> 01:42:19.159
fun, but you need yeah,
like anonymous apples app Anonymous Apples to Apples

1588
01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:25.560
is not a yeah yeah AA to
A is not the way you want to

1589
01:42:25.600 --> 01:42:29.239
go. Yeah, it didn't seem
like that. That game is all about,

1590
01:42:29.439 --> 01:42:31.960
like when you guys are doing that
quick look, yeah, you know

1591
01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:35.399
the people you're playing with and you
bring a lot it's the meta game.

1592
01:42:35.640 --> 01:42:39.399
You're right, you do bring a
lot of the bullshittery is a huge part

1593
01:42:39.439 --> 01:42:43.279
of Apples to Apples for sure,
for sure. So so yeah, then

1594
01:42:43.319 --> 01:42:45.600
it just like when you play it
online, it kind of just becomes the

1595
01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:48.359
right answer game. Which too bad
because that's the place where I feel like

1596
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:54.920
they actually introduced like better randomness.
It's a weird term to use. The

1597
01:42:55.159 --> 01:43:02.000
truer randomness feels more random. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Like that's where

1598
01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:04.800
it has it, but that's where
it, you know, arguably needs it

1599
01:43:04.840 --> 01:43:10.039
the least. Yeah, apples,
apples, did you did you find you

1600
01:43:10.119 --> 01:43:12.560
were just running into people grinding for
achievement. It's like we did when we

1601
01:43:13.359 --> 01:43:16.840
know every other every actual every other
time that I played was was actually we

1602
01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:20.159
just got the one ship. There
weren't a lot of people playing over the

1603
01:43:20.199 --> 01:43:24.079
weekend, but there was enough that
I could I could catch games, So

1604
01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:28.840
I did that. Anyone else's voice
chat everyone's dead silence. Everyone was dead.

1605
01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:31.000
No, no, no, I
mean they might have been chatting,

1606
01:43:31.039 --> 01:43:35.199
but I turn off like I turned
down default. Yeah. Everything. I

1607
01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:39.399
don't want to talk to anyone,
nor don't want to hear anyone on Xbox

1608
01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:42.000
that's reasonable. Yeah, it's Xbox
Live. You've been on there. It's

1609
01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:45.199
disgusting. It's not a place for
human beings to go and to talk to

1610
01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:50.880
other human beings, meet people.
So meeting bad people, Jeff curse until

1611
01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:54.840
someone says, man, you curse
good? I say, where do you

1612
01:43:54.920 --> 01:43:59.479
live? You homo? Yeah,
that's that's what It's the end of that

1613
01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:01.720
sentence, and that's how they know
that you were one of their people,

1614
01:44:01.880 --> 01:44:08.880
right Patrick, You and I sat
on the couch last week, unexpectedly had

1615
01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:11.600
a little chit chat with Nolan North. No, North just wanted to swing

1616
01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:14.520
by the office. Dude, that's
actually you're not even joking. No,

1617
01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:15.720
I'm not definitely how that happened.
No, he just got an email from

1618
01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:20.399
so saying, hey, he's come
to either place. Cool. That was

1619
01:44:20.439 --> 01:44:28.279
literally that so fuop, Well I
got I got that email. I was

1620
01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:30.039
just like, hey, No,
one's like around the corner. He's like

1621
01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:31.199
one of you come by on like
the fifteen minutes. And I'm like,

1622
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:34.800
I got like at the email and
like I go over to the video.

1623
01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:41.439
I was like, hey, No, North might be hearing that. We

1624
01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:44.720
drop all pretimes of any professionalism at
all. It's like what we're doing,

1625
01:44:44.720 --> 01:44:47.359
We're not doing anything today Nolan North
is coming in. We're doing when I

1626
01:44:47.399 --> 01:44:51.199
do that thing. But then also
like the conditions we got from like the

1627
01:44:51.239 --> 01:44:55.039
person, and I was like,
maybe he's showing up, Maybe he's not.

1628
01:44:55.399 --> 01:44:57.399
He's kind of just out there doing
his own thing. You know,

1629
01:44:57.560 --> 01:45:01.279
I couldn't do something also also worth
sating through no official channels. This wasn't

1630
01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:04.359
like you know, pr contact,
which is how these things would normally happen.

1631
01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:08.600
And Nolan North actually knows what giant
bomb is. Yes, is aware

1632
01:45:08.600 --> 01:45:11.640
of them like that in and of
itself. Yeah, him knowing that we

1633
01:45:11.720 --> 01:45:15.239
are a website and then also knowing
that we had a award named, now

1634
01:45:15.279 --> 01:45:19.760
you know the number, Nolan North
Award, the Northeast Standard, the first

1635
01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:27.079
Industry first, Yes, yes,
the first, the Premier Award. What

1636
01:45:27.159 --> 01:45:30.720
do you say? He had some
funny anecdote about dad had been like,

1637
01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:33.760
hey, do you know you know
there's He was telling his dad that this

1638
01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:39.840
crazy site has made an award for
me? Is Nolan North? You know

1639
01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:43.680
your son? Uh? And I
think the dad His response was, well

1640
01:45:43.720 --> 01:45:49.560
did you win? Yeah? Yeah, singhe elder North showing out it's done.

1641
01:45:49.640 --> 01:45:54.640
No, Dad, But I don't
want to ruin the thing because it's

1642
01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:57.560
a good half hour plus of me
and Patrick just talking about I don't want

1643
01:45:57.560 --> 01:45:59.880
to I don't want to ruin his
joke about he's got good, he's got

1644
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:05.600
worse, he's got some good chops
and can't just hang scorchingly awful mouth.

1645
01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:10.479
Just the foul language that came out
of that man's mouth before we started recording.

1646
01:46:10.600 --> 01:46:13.319
Holy holy shit. We got a
little into it. We got a

1647
01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:15.439
little into it. But like he
was just we loosened him up some and

1648
01:46:15.479 --> 01:46:18.600
he was I can't even say it, like I don't know, I'm not

1649
01:46:18.720 --> 01:46:21.760
even gonna say the things out loud
that he said, like as are like

1650
01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:26.079
Mike checks, like whoa, like
whoa. But it was great that it

1651
01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:29.279
happened because the tone, because then
like I knew, I could, I

1652
01:46:29.319 --> 01:46:30.920
could say certain things on a camera. You could, you could rib with

1653
01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:34.439
him and like it would be school. Yeah, you call him asshole and

1654
01:46:34.439 --> 01:46:38.960
it's okay, it's fine. But
and he deals with it like he's like

1655
01:46:39.239 --> 01:46:42.600
heck of a guy, you know
what, super true gentleman could not really

1656
01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:46.800
nice videos videos up now looking days
sick. Also, he's got a book.

1657
01:46:47.199 --> 01:46:53.119
Yeah, that's it's a big part
of why he came by. He's

1658
01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:56.039
he's out there pimp in his book, which which I guess he and his

1659
01:46:56.159 --> 01:47:00.479
company produced because his brother, yeah, came by with it. Would I

1660
01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:04.039
guess his brother in law shot a
lot of the video that they that they

1661
01:47:04.279 --> 01:47:08.600
did kind of behind the scenes,
and you know, it's it's it's about

1662
01:47:08.640 --> 01:47:11.600
the making of is that right?
Yeah? Yeah? You know uh no

1663
01:47:11.720 --> 01:47:14.840
on North you know, is he
a voice actor? That is his his

1664
01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:18.199
primary job there, But he you
know, has gotten close to the the

1665
01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:23.479
Nighty Dog guys in a way that
I don't think a lot of game like

1666
01:47:23.680 --> 01:47:27.279
voice personalities necessarily do. I don't
think they get that involved in the process.

1667
01:47:28.640 --> 01:47:30.800
I mean, he like he's involved
in casting. Yeah, like he

1668
01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.600
you know, he uh. He
talked a little bit about some some kind

1669
01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:35.159
of performance coaching and stuff. I
think part of it comes from the fact

1670
01:47:35.159 --> 01:47:39.039
that they were doing the performance capture, not just like going to the right

1671
01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:42.840
fucking sound booth and knock this out. He's he's actually at anything you see

1672
01:47:43.039 --> 01:47:45.640
in that game. Just about that
Nathan Drake does. He has acted out

1673
01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:48.359
and in one way or there.
I mean they are, by their own

1674
01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:53.560
admission or were, and assuming that
character is kind of done at this point,

1675
01:47:53.640 --> 01:47:58.199
they were like subtly making him look
more like I think that's I think

1676
01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:01.039
that's really apparently you actually play the
game. So but so you can find

1677
01:48:01.039 --> 01:48:04.760
out more about the book and more
about the book and and other random stuff.

1678
01:48:04.760 --> 01:48:09.960
We talked about non uncharted related business
some as well. But it was

1679
01:48:10.039 --> 01:48:13.600
just a really enjoyable conversation. I
have to say I really enjoyed meeting him,

1680
01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:15.880
and he was he was, like
Jeff said, just really nice,

1681
01:48:15.439 --> 01:48:19.760
taller than I thought was true individual. And I think he's also very self

1682
01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:23.880
aware of how hard it or you
know, self aware of what his role

1683
01:48:23.960 --> 01:48:26.239
is and how hard it is to
make games. And it couldn't be more

1684
01:48:26.319 --> 01:48:29.479
hard. Yeah, that that was
kind of the nature of the book,

1685
01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:30.840
was like, Hey, these other
guys like I do this part of it,

1686
01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:34.000
but this programmer does this thing and
nobody knows about it, and it's

1687
01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:38.399
it's great that he was doing it
because like we don't get access to certain

1688
01:48:38.439 --> 01:48:40.680
things. Yeah, Like and he
is in there every day, and like

1689
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:45.119
he's kind of one of those people
in the best role to sort of tell

1690
01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:48.520
that story, evangelize the role of
the the guy who has to come up

1691
01:48:48.520 --> 01:48:54.880
with the what was it the squib
animator squib animation with animations where it's just

1692
01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:59.920
like every every single you know,
weapon that gets fired, you know how

1693
01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:04.279
as different muzzle muzzle flashes and squizz
and so like, different different distances and

1694
01:49:04.479 --> 01:49:09.319
different materials need to react differently to
these bullets. And there has to be

1695
01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:13.000
a guy that's this fucking job for
like two years, is coming up with

1696
01:49:13.079 --> 01:49:15.640
the way these things look and and
making sure that they're consistent. He says,

1697
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:19.000
that's that's craziness, that's madness.
But people need to know that that

1698
01:49:19.039 --> 01:49:21.520
shit has to happen. So it
seems like it's a great respect for the

1699
01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:25.800
craft. And you know, good
on him for trying to shine some light

1700
01:49:25.880 --> 01:49:28.439
on that because that's that's definitely and
a lot of a lot of it is

1701
01:49:28.479 --> 01:49:30.520
a lot of props given to other
voice actors. You know, he realized

1702
01:49:30.520 --> 01:49:34.960
the position that he's in as a
very visible voice actor. That was fun.

1703
01:49:35.439 --> 01:49:40.319
Yeah, thanks thanks to Molan North
for coming through, and I'd love

1704
01:49:40.359 --> 01:49:44.640
to have him in another time.
That is up now pretty much unedited,

1705
01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:49.640
so you see the see Nolan North
and catch it now before we have to

1706
01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:51.720
take it down. We didn't Yeah, we didn't even know if were going

1707
01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:55.560
to get an interview. It's like
when he showed up, green screen was

1708
01:49:55.600 --> 01:49:59.520
set up, podcast was set up, everything set up and in case,

1709
01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:04.039
yeah whatever because you weren't sure.
He's like because he when I talked to

1710
01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:05.399
him on the phone, he's like, ah, yeah, I'm just you

1711
01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:08.079
know, I can't swing throw it
how much time I was like, I

1712
01:50:08.159 --> 01:50:12.439
was like, all right, guys, not down, okay, you just

1713
01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:14.640
drop it off. A book came
in and we rad for a minute and

1714
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:15.600
I said, can you come sit
with us? Oh yeah, sure,

1715
01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:19.079
yeah, and then time got away
from us. So it takes it takes

1716
01:50:19.079 --> 01:50:21.840
about five minutes before you get over
the fact that, oh no, I

1717
01:50:21.960 --> 01:50:24.880
was Nathan Well. I was just
freaking out it. I was like,

1718
01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:26.479
I don't know what, what do
I say? What am I going to

1719
01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:29.399
ask him? I was I was
having pre interview panic attacks. But then

1720
01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:31.079
when we talked him for five minutes, this guy's just a dude. Yeah,

1721
01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:33.920
no worries here, This is just
a dude. I could talk to

1722
01:50:34.079 --> 01:50:39.920
dudes. You can. That's not
that's not that's not Nathan Drake. That's

1723
01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:43.039
just a dude. I've been on
Xbox Live. That's right. I've talked

1724
01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:45.880
to dudes there. This goes.
I've studied this. Yeah, a lot

1725
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:49.560
of cursing. I know what the
basic size and shape this is. Like

1726
01:50:49.680 --> 01:50:54.800
you have said, I played some
some Joe Danger that's coming out this Wednesday

1727
01:50:54.920 --> 01:51:00.199
on Xbox Live. I still like
it. I liked it before such rate

1728
01:51:00.279 --> 01:51:04.079
menu music I had forgotten. Yeah, yeah, it's a I just find

1729
01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:11.359
it an enjoyable game. I feel
like they they've created a nice blend of

1730
01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:15.279
of the you know of the racing
and the tricks. You know, it's

1731
01:51:15.279 --> 01:51:21.720
sort of like when not trials HD, but like in the motocross Maniacs or

1732
01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:27.359
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah a
lot like that's a closer parallel, but

1733
01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:30.960
but finding that balance between like all
right, you gotta get speed and you

1734
01:51:30.039 --> 01:51:32.159
gotta do this fast, and you
gotta do this in a way that you

1735
01:51:32.239 --> 01:51:35.840
get a ship ton of points through
your tricks. So you know, kind

1736
01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:39.560
of kind of striking that balance I
think can be tough. And I think

1737
01:51:39.560 --> 01:51:42.159
those those Hello games, guys,
I've done it. And you're right about

1738
01:51:42.159 --> 01:51:44.399
the music. If you asked music, great music. I think I still

1739
01:51:44.399 --> 01:51:46.079
have a PC version that kicking around
on my computer somewhere because it was an

1740
01:51:46.119 --> 01:51:50.079
IGF game at first. Yes,
then Sonody picked it up. I don't

1741
01:51:50.079 --> 01:51:56.720
know, the diff came out up
like and they signedly to p S three

1742
01:51:56.720 --> 01:52:00.520
and then Sony option to them out
said that yeah you guys and release it

1743
01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:02.880
on x biling like that. Sony
had to allow them to do that.

1744
01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:06.359
And this version is called Special Edition, and you know it's kind of get

1745
01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:10.560
the kind of microspically, it's a
different thing. They added like a new

1746
01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:15.000
environment and some other new stuff.
So not this same exactly miss policies or

1747
01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:16.960
if it's not at the same time, it has to have some new stuff,

1748
01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:26.439
anything new to it. I uh
so, let's let's talk about Let's

1749
01:52:26.439 --> 01:52:30.479
move it to news. I did
not watch the Spike TV VGAS this weekend,

1750
01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:34.119
but some stuff got announced at that. Yeah. Yeah, there were

1751
01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:38.239
there were games announced there, and
uh, I guess you know. People

1752
01:52:38.279 --> 01:52:43.000
have some opinions about the Spike VGAS. Yeah. Uh, A lot of

1753
01:52:43.039 --> 01:52:46.399
people have a lot of opinions about
the Spikes people every year, a lot

1754
01:52:46.439 --> 01:52:49.600
of people. The opinions are are
hot and heavy when it comes to the

1755
01:52:49.680 --> 01:52:55.039
Spike TV Video Game Awards. Well, that site still existed for Spike VGAS.

1756
01:52:55.359 --> 01:52:58.359
I think it's still opinions. I
think it can make money off it's

1757
01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:01.199
still I think it's just read actually
tell like Amazon, but it's just yeah

1758
01:53:01.239 --> 01:53:09.720
who answers? Now same everything.
Don't go look at yah can you make

1759
01:53:09.800 --> 01:53:14.479
money off of like Reddit memes because
the actually Yah who answers is making billions.

1760
01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:17.239
I posted my first yeah who answered
a couple of weeks ago an answer

1761
01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:20.600
what's that question? Or an answer? Uh? An answer? Oh?

1762
01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:24.359
Okay, god? What was it? It was? It was it was

1763
01:53:24.399 --> 01:53:27.079
a technical question about Saints Row.
I'm trying to remember what it was.

1764
01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:30.560
I was, Oh, no,
it's better than that. God, what

1765
01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:33.760
was this? A lot of it
was when I moved over to my SSD,

1766
01:53:33.880 --> 01:53:38.520
I was looking for how to back
up the save files to readstall windows

1767
01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:41.600
and stuff, and turned out to
be a steam Cloud thing and blah blah

1768
01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:45.479
blah. You know, it's fine
whatever. But the answer or the question

1769
01:53:45.720 --> 01:53:49.399
was, the question was how do
I back up my save files from the

1770
01:53:49.520 --> 01:53:54.600
non Steam version of Saints or the
third And I was like, isn't that

1771
01:53:54.680 --> 01:53:58.960
a steam Works game, meaning there
is no non Steam version? Yeah?

1772
01:53:59.079 --> 01:54:02.720
And I went and confirmed all that
stuff and then posted the answer that you

1773
01:54:02.720 --> 01:54:06.680
should probably pay money for the game
before you go asking for tech support about

1774
01:54:06.720 --> 01:54:12.279
it. Yeah, And the question
was deleted five minutes later. It felt

1775
01:54:12.319 --> 01:54:18.199
pretty good. Anyway, you're on
the case. But you you posted some

1776
01:54:18.359 --> 01:54:21.840
thoughts on the site about the Spike
TV vdas. Yeah, yeah, I

1777
01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:28.600
watched them. Yeah, and it's
you know, there's a fair amount of

1778
01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:30.920
outrage and a lot of kind of
talk back and forth about the quality of

1779
01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:34.520
the show and the time they gave
to the actual awards, which was minimal.

1780
01:54:34.720 --> 01:54:40.600
Yeah, I mean there's there's I
think kind of the fundamental underlying question

1781
01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:47.680
is different different people's priorities of what
the awards should be. Yeah. Yeah,

1782
01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:53.239
some people looking for kind of the
the quieter, more introspective look at

1783
01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:56.479
you know, celebrating the video game
industry as a video game. Yeah,

1784
01:54:56.479 --> 01:55:00.520
as opposed to being a bombastic a
little more Dice Spike TV show. Yeah,

1785
01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:03.960
a little more little little more GDC. Yeah. Yeah. I think

1786
01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:08.239
that's the thing people kind of tend
to forget, is that there are multiple

1787
01:55:08.439 --> 01:55:13.399
awards shows do rest the year,
And I would like G four was around

1788
01:55:13.399 --> 01:55:15.600
the Dice Awards for a little bit, weren't they. Yes, they would

1789
01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:19.880
uh air them on TV and a
next er person, but you could watch

1790
01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:23.199
all of it live on the web. And I think they streamed them,

1791
01:55:23.399 --> 01:55:26.119
Yeah they last year. They did
stream them, some of them. But

1792
01:55:26.199 --> 01:55:31.199
even the even the Dice Awards have
like weird issues with with like genre classifications,

1793
01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:34.399
Like we were there for Dice Awards
this year, you know, the

1794
01:55:34.760 --> 01:55:38.760
twenty eleven ones, and it's sort
of like, wait, adventure games,

1795
01:55:38.800 --> 01:55:42.560
that's what you're gonna call these.
That's weird that you've created a or you're

1796
01:55:42.600 --> 01:55:45.600
using a genre that pits like Red
Dead Redemption against Limbo, Like these couldn't

1797
01:55:45.680 --> 01:55:51.479
be more wildly different. Games genres
and gaming are always are just still broken.

1798
01:55:51.960 --> 01:55:55.199
Yeah, but you know that was
the place if you wanted your you

1799
01:55:55.239 --> 01:55:58.840
know, being Gordon coming up and
reading poetry, you got it. You

1800
01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:01.920
absolutely got it. Crazy brilliant motherfucker. Yeah. That was That was a

1801
01:56:02.680 --> 01:56:09.039
crazy as moment. So I think
that, you know, like expecting all

1802
01:56:09.319 --> 01:56:12.239
all awards shows to be all things
to all people is crazy. And I

1803
01:56:12.359 --> 01:56:15.800
think that the show they put on
in a lot of ways it fits,

1804
01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:20.319
you know what I expect out of
a network like Spike TV us the people

1805
01:56:20.359 --> 01:56:24.800
that put on the Scream Awards.
Yeah, I think people forget the Spike

1806
01:56:24.840 --> 01:56:28.880
TV part. Yeah, people,
And because because because you see the Jeff

1807
01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:32.239
Keely like the face of Game Trailers
TV, and you know, Jeff Jeff

1808
01:56:32.319 --> 01:56:36.000
Keeley does some stuff that has substance
to it, put in the Portal two

1809
01:56:36.159 --> 01:56:39.439
app that you put there, like
the guys all of a writer when he

1810
01:56:39.520 --> 01:56:43.640
chooses to be. And so I
think people all year like because every year

1811
01:56:43.680 --> 01:56:45.640
Jeff says like it's gonna be better, we listen to the feedback and then

1812
01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:48.920
I think What happens is that they
kind of get this built up since that

1813
01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:51.520
it's going to be better than it
was last year, when they should kind

1814
01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:56.199
of be recognizing it for the network. It's on and right, and we

1815
01:56:56.279 --> 01:56:59.920
have no real sense and the company
that's putting it together it's not it's not

1816
01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:02.720
the game trailer's TV production. Yeah, this is a Mark Burnett. It

1817
01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:05.760
was like, you know, the
guy that brought you, are you smarter

1818
01:57:05.920 --> 01:57:10.119
than a fifth grader? Put this
fucking thing. The guy does the movie

1819
01:57:10.159 --> 01:57:14.520
Awards from TV put this awesome thing
together at the modern MTV Movie Board.

1820
01:57:14.680 --> 01:57:16.840
I don't know if they're still doing
it or no. I think it's it's

1821
01:57:17.279 --> 01:57:21.000
recent years. I think like oh
nine they did it, so it's nineties

1822
01:57:21.079 --> 01:57:25.039
m TV Movie Awards. But they
were decent, yeah, entertaining. Yeah,

1823
01:57:25.079 --> 01:57:28.359
they had funny, those Ben Stiller
bits and all that weird stuff.

1824
01:57:28.439 --> 01:57:34.079
Yeah, so what were the funny
bits at the Spike Vgas. Yeah,

1825
01:57:34.520 --> 01:57:38.600
I mean, the creator of a
major video you know what, another guy

1826
01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:41.520
squat over his face, you know
what. The funny but at the vgas

1827
01:57:41.560 --> 01:57:44.560
were when they played that Command of
Conference trailer and tried to say it was

1828
01:57:44.600 --> 01:57:46.720
a BioWare game that was the funniest
part of the show for me. Wait

1829
01:57:46.800 --> 01:57:54.640
what Yeah, so yeah, it's
the what they're trying to do from an

1830
01:57:54.680 --> 01:57:58.560
entertainment perspective, I feel's way off. And I don't know who that part

1831
01:57:58.600 --> 01:58:00.680
of the show is for, Like
I don't know who sitting there going like,

1832
01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:03.159
oh man, that tea bag and
jokes hilarious, or that YouTube guy

1833
01:58:03.600 --> 01:58:06.159
or yeah, some YouTube guy that
I guess had bitched about the show the

1834
01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:11.800
year before. I think you were
right in what you remember some dude,

1835
01:58:12.119 --> 01:58:14.640
Okay, I don't know. And
then like it was just like they played

1836
01:58:14.720 --> 01:58:16.479
some video of him in his bedrooms
cursing, and then they had him to

1837
01:58:16.520 --> 01:58:19.800
the show is sitting next to a
Spike executive and isn't that funny. It

1838
01:58:19.960 --> 01:58:23.359
was not funny. No one kN
who that Spike executive was. So it's

1839
01:58:23.359 --> 01:58:27.399
like, yeah, neither neither end
of this joke is funny. And then

1840
01:58:27.560 --> 01:58:30.520
and actually, I'll give exactly LEVI. I credit the guy clearly knows games,

1841
01:58:30.600 --> 01:58:32.800
Like seemed like he was trying to
do the best he could with like

1842
01:58:32.920 --> 01:58:38.880
some really bad materials. Yeah,
like it was he has like some game,

1843
01:58:38.960 --> 01:58:43.479
he has some nerd website things like
the guy Cares knows he he was

1844
01:58:43.560 --> 01:58:45.720
hanging out at the or of the
Gears to party at E three. He

1845
01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:50.840
seems like he's been out there.
Samuel l. Jets Yeah, or even

1846
01:58:50.880 --> 01:58:54.920
Neil Patrick Harris like he just the
guy at least comes from He's like that.

1847
01:58:55.199 --> 01:58:58.359
He's like that. Cliff Lazinski like
its presentable, it's funny, like

1848
01:58:58.640 --> 01:59:03.720
cant it's pretty like whatever man where
the game is at? Yeah, well,

1849
01:59:04.159 --> 01:59:06.720
I think it's it's not funny.
Like I think people if this was

1850
01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:11.800
actually a legitimately funny show that was
like Reverend and like kind of got games

1851
01:59:11.880 --> 01:59:15.119
and like it would it would better
run that line of like, look,

1852
01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:16.399
it's at the end of the day, this is all advertising. But if

1853
01:59:16.439 --> 01:59:19.840
we had fun along the way the
promise it it's just miserably Yeah, it's

1854
01:59:19.880 --> 01:59:25.359
a miserable to full referential humor that
just doesn't hit. And and I think

1855
01:59:25.399 --> 01:59:28.760
it was actually funny. I think
people would be a lot more forgiving because

1856
01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:30.920
you would at least like you'd be
like, well, look, oh wait,

1857
01:59:30.960 --> 01:59:34.600
look it wasn't as this deep introspective. But look at video games,

1858
01:59:34.640 --> 01:59:38.199
the fact that stuff that they're filling
the time with when they're when they are

1859
01:59:38.319 --> 01:59:42.960
not showing awards that they were giving
away is not is not entertaining. It's

1860
01:59:42.960 --> 01:59:45.600
like with Charlie Sheen, which at
some point, at some point that probably

1861
01:59:45.600 --> 01:59:50.000
seemed like a get whenever that idea
came up, like oh we gotta have

1862
01:59:50.319 --> 01:59:54.399
Charlie Sheen. I hope that it
came up like eight months ago or something

1863
01:59:54.439 --> 01:59:58.000
like that. They slot like,
all right, Charlie's get this thing and

1864
01:59:58.039 --> 02:00:00.159
he was funny at the time,
and yeah, that it must to have

1865
02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:01.279
happened. Hopefully it happened a long
time ago, because if that was like

1866
02:00:01.319 --> 02:00:04.199
a recent thing, like guys,
I got this great idea, Chuck Shean,

1867
02:00:04.439 --> 02:00:09.239
how about it? I would like
to think that people would have been

1868
02:00:09.319 --> 02:00:14.000
like, no, what that thing
is? That thing is funny, roast.

1869
02:00:15.279 --> 02:00:17.079
Yeah, one who watched the Roast
is extra gonna watch this, and

1870
02:00:17.079 --> 02:00:21.279
anyone who did watch the roast slit
their goddamn throats afterwards. So that you

1871
02:00:21.359 --> 02:00:24.800
had stuff like that, you had
guys like will I am coming out and

1872
02:00:24.840 --> 02:00:30.119
then spending like twenty seconds trying to
convince you the viewer that he understood video

1873
02:00:30.199 --> 02:00:33.880
games with his whole I am video
games, I'm in them, I play

1874
02:00:34.000 --> 02:00:39.960
I play them. Video games are
me. I love that they kept introducing

1875
02:00:40.079 --> 02:00:45.239
him as will I am from the
Blacks experience, like perfectly, that's delightful

1876
02:00:46.439 --> 02:00:49.680
every time, Like ll cool J
came out and introduced a Mass Effect three

1877
02:00:49.720 --> 02:00:59.680
trailer and then the Command of Conqueror
General's two trailer. I don't it's just

1878
02:00:59.800 --> 02:01:03.960
the the quality of stars didn't fit
the subject matter all that well and also

1879
02:01:04.000 --> 02:01:09.119
weren't necessarily draws on their own right, Like I don't know who's going,

1880
02:01:09.239 --> 02:01:11.880
like, oh thank god, Ella
cool jay Z, it's weird. Who

1881
02:01:12.680 --> 02:01:15.079
is It's who they could get?
Yeah, so it looks it looks like

1882
02:01:15.199 --> 02:01:17.439
it's who they could get, but
it's Spike. But it's a video game

1883
02:01:17.479 --> 02:01:20.239
awards show, so it's like als, it's a tough sell to a publicist,

1884
02:01:20.279 --> 02:01:25.199
I'm sure yea. And and that
number, it probably just depends on

1885
02:01:25.319 --> 02:01:29.359
what the ratings number is and in
some cases probably an appearance fee or something

1886
02:01:29.439 --> 02:01:30.840
like that. But I think got
Felicia Day, which like she fits.

1887
02:01:31.239 --> 02:01:34.479
She she's again part of that like
on the right track, like she ended

1888
02:01:34.560 --> 02:01:38.439
up being like her and Zachary Zachary
leiam I were probably like the two most

1889
02:01:38.520 --> 02:01:41.560
credible things about that broadcast. Yeah, uh, and I think that that's

1890
02:01:42.560 --> 02:01:45.880
like straight up, I know it
might not be the answer for like the

1891
02:01:45.079 --> 02:01:48.079
big ratings that they want to get
in star Power and this and that for

1892
02:01:48.359 --> 02:01:53.920
for whatever weird mainstream cred they want
to build. But that show should be

1893
02:01:53.960 --> 02:01:58.079
hosted by Jeff Keeley like that they
should it, or he should at least

1894
02:01:58.079 --> 02:01:59.640
be on it. Last year he
was on it a little bit. I

1895
02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:01.680
think he was honored at all this
they were doing like like in between like,

1896
02:02:01.760 --> 02:02:04.800
ay, I'm backstage here with this
guy. Yeah that was that was

1897
02:02:05.479 --> 02:02:09.960
years before Last Order. This time
it was Felicia day All doing all the

1898
02:02:09.960 --> 02:02:12.039
back shows. Okay, so they
still had they cut to that stuff,

1899
02:02:12.039 --> 02:02:15.199
but it was she was back there
playing real life fruit Ninja. Yeahs for

1900
02:02:15.239 --> 02:02:19.560
like raising money for Child's Play.
Yeah, at least also also, you

1901
02:02:19.640 --> 02:02:23.079
know, worth a plotting that they
were raising money for Child's played during it

1902
02:02:23.199 --> 02:02:27.079
and during their Weird Kids. But
it's it's easy to want to just like

1903
02:02:27.199 --> 02:02:30.399
shred this thing as being like the
most embarrassing thing on television and oh god,

1904
02:02:30.439 --> 02:02:31.640
it makes me embarrassed play video games
blah blah blah, And that's you

1905
02:02:31.680 --> 02:02:38.279
know, that's a perspective I understand
to an extent, but you know there

1906
02:02:38.319 --> 02:02:41.039
are other awards shows out it's the
wrong place to ask for acceptance. Yeah,

1907
02:02:41.359 --> 02:02:43.680
exactly, I was. I don't. I don't look for Spike TV

1908
02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:45.479
for validation about anything, right,
And I think I think a lot of

1909
02:02:45.520 --> 02:02:48.119
people come from this in the same
perspective like the Games is Art thing where

1910
02:02:48.119 --> 02:02:50.359
it's like just you're looking at it
the wrong way, which is that they

1911
02:02:50.479 --> 02:02:56.439
desperately want could be two people's credit
that this is the biggest stage that games

1912
02:02:56.520 --> 02:02:59.600
have in terms of an award show, in terms of presence, and so

1913
02:02:59.840 --> 02:03:03.239
I understand it's worth a criticism,
like it's worth but but it's still like

1914
02:03:03.279 --> 02:03:06.319
a chicken and an egg thing because
you're why is this the biggest stage?

1915
02:03:06.399 --> 02:03:11.000
Because they pull up ll cool Jay
And because they pull up up it's because

1916
02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:14.279
it's on television. Yea, they
have the reach, but they're not just

1917
02:03:14.439 --> 02:03:16.479
on They're not just gonna pay the
cable. They're not just gonna put like

1918
02:03:17.039 --> 02:03:21.359
uh, Jeff Kelley up there talking
to a crowd handing out awards on primetime.

1919
02:03:21.520 --> 02:03:28.159
For that's that's not a two hour
broadcast at that point that TV.

1920
02:03:28.800 --> 02:03:31.119
Yeah, so like the Game trailers
TV is not on at that time,

1921
02:03:31.279 --> 02:03:33.359
you know, it's it's on pretty
late at night. So I think it

1922
02:03:33.439 --> 02:03:40.239
gets the attention it gets because it
goes so far afield from what the normal

1923
02:03:40.399 --> 02:03:44.239
kind of video game crowd sniffs as
bullshit right away. You know, it's

1924
02:03:44.319 --> 02:03:47.399
like, Okay, we're gonna get
these dudes who really are just tangentially related

1925
02:03:47.479 --> 02:03:50.960
to video games, if that anyway
at all. But it's Spike TV and

1926
02:03:51.119 --> 02:03:55.800
let's we've got boobs and kind of
like Dancing with the Stars. Great,

1927
02:03:56.720 --> 02:04:00.000
yeah, yeah, I mean there's
also an institutional problem with the way fundamentally

1928
02:04:00.039 --> 02:04:04.119
video games are made, which are
a team effort, and as a result

1929
02:04:04.159 --> 02:04:09.079
of team efforts, individuals don't get
as recognized, and the industry also doesn't

1930
02:04:09.079 --> 02:04:12.520
put forth individuals that often in order
for an award show to work, you

1931
02:04:12.560 --> 02:04:15.960
need individuals like you would never go
to the oscars and expect like DreamWorks Interactive

1932
02:04:16.039 --> 02:04:19.560
one studio of the year for putting
out like that. That's just you would

1933
02:04:19.560 --> 02:04:24.640
be laughed, like that's just you
don't promote corporations that way, And like

1934
02:04:24.760 --> 02:04:27.960
the gamer God thing that I have
a legitimate beef with of like that,

1935
02:04:28.479 --> 02:04:30.840
hold on the fact that they gave
a Gamer God award to Blizzard, and

1936
02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:33.399
then it was just that hard,
like I just saw the awards of them,

1937
02:04:33.479 --> 02:04:36.000
Like, wait, that's not a
like the gamer God thing should be

1938
02:04:36.359 --> 02:04:41.720
like person a person, right,
not just because what is Blizzard now was

1939
02:04:41.800 --> 02:04:45.960
not the Blizzard that originally made StarCraft
or Diablo, Like it's all those dudes,

1940
02:04:46.000 --> 02:04:48.079
the one up on the stage are
the guys who founded it. So

1941
02:04:48.319 --> 02:04:51.039
there is that. It's still well, didn't give it to those guys.

1942
02:04:51.079 --> 02:04:54.960
Don't give it to Blizzard. You
know, it was less bad as much

1943
02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:58.199
as then they teased the cinematic at
the end of it. Well, I

1944
02:04:58.239 --> 02:05:01.159
mean, so that's just on a
clip, but that's so that's the draw

1945
02:05:01.239 --> 02:05:04.520
at least that's kind of the draw
that's been pitched to us for the Spy

1946
02:05:04.640 --> 02:05:10.760
TV vgas ISS and that that is
the most important part of the trailers,

1947
02:05:10.880 --> 02:05:13.640
Like that's it than E three.
It's where you see if they could get

1948
02:05:13.680 --> 02:05:16.319
away with calling this like the future
of video games on television, you know,

1949
02:05:16.640 --> 02:05:19.239
right here on TV come and watch
Ellen cool Jay will tell you about

1950
02:05:19.319 --> 02:05:24.319
Command of Conquer. I think that
would be more honest, because you know,

1951
02:05:24.399 --> 02:05:28.960
it's like the uh I missed the
montage where they were giving out all

1952
02:05:28.960 --> 02:05:32.720
the awards. I watch the pre
show, so I didn't see any of

1953
02:05:32.920 --> 02:05:36.359
the pre show was great because they
had it was ed Boone up there talking

1954
02:05:36.399 --> 02:05:39.520
about how you know, it was
great to win this fighting game award.

1955
02:05:39.520 --> 02:05:45.319
Greg saw having up there talking about
Bastion a little bit Ellen uh voice the

1956
02:05:45.359 --> 02:05:46.960
voice from Gladys up there talking a
little bit and giving you a little bit

1957
02:05:46.960 --> 02:05:49.600
of the voice. Though without the
computer effects it does not sound good,

1958
02:05:50.720 --> 02:05:55.239
you know. It was It was
honest, It was one. It was

1959
02:05:55.720 --> 02:06:00.560
for two hours on television, was
just on, was just online, and

1960
02:06:00.760 --> 02:06:01.800
I think that was that was the
best part of the show. That was

1961
02:06:01.840 --> 02:06:05.680
the part that felt most in tune
with what video games are today. And

1962
02:06:05.760 --> 02:06:11.079
then it just became like a big
kind of gaudy firework. I mean,

1963
02:06:11.159 --> 02:06:15.000
the thing is like they gotta put
on a TV ship. Then that's the

1964
02:06:15.119 --> 02:06:17.800
thing is. It's like I feel
like us, like us going to the

1965
02:06:18.000 --> 02:06:21.039
Spike tvv Gas and actually we went, like was that two years ago?

1966
02:06:21.079 --> 02:06:24.760
It was like two or three years. I've been twice. I've been.

1967
02:06:24.840 --> 02:06:29.479
I've very nearly went this year,
and watching them I really wish I had

1968
02:06:29.720 --> 02:06:32.159
because it's it's really fun to go
in person, like straight up that trip,

1969
02:06:32.239 --> 02:06:35.399
that trip was a fucking blast.
And going and seeing the actual awards

1970
02:06:35.479 --> 02:06:39.399
happening, everybody's there. It's a
really fun time. It's just interesting.

1971
02:06:39.520 --> 02:06:42.880
It's interesting because you realize, like
even if you just look at the show

1972
02:06:42.920 --> 02:06:44.840
and go like, oh, they
just farted this thing out, no one

1973
02:06:44.920 --> 02:06:48.239
gave a shit, Like just seeing
the logistics when you're on site of putting

1974
02:06:48.319 --> 02:06:53.520
this fucking thing together and the number
of people that have to be wrangled and

1975
02:06:53.760 --> 02:06:58.600
just the seat fillers that have to
be yeah, feeling like how big one,

1976
02:06:58.680 --> 02:07:01.079
how big this room actually is,
and all these other things. It's

1977
02:07:01.159 --> 02:07:04.920
it's uh he puts it in perspective
of like, man, you know,

1978
02:07:05.079 --> 02:07:09.439
I'm surprised anything gets done at all. It's it's that kind of thing where

1979
02:07:09.960 --> 02:07:14.680
you then understand what they're dealing with
with trying to put on something that even

1980
02:07:14.760 --> 02:07:17.600
just looks like this. Uh So, yeah, I'm glad that I went,

1981
02:07:17.640 --> 02:07:21.640
and I think that that I don't
know, that perspective is useful well,

1982
02:07:21.680 --> 02:07:25.439
and you can also probably maybe better
understand like why like a good bit

1983
02:07:25.520 --> 02:07:28.319
doesn't make it to TV, like
the it's not a matter of just like

1984
02:07:28.640 --> 02:07:32.800
writing something and then just and they
were totally there were totally bits that like

1985
02:07:33.560 --> 02:07:38.560
totally killed in the you know,
in the theater in the room that did

1986
02:07:38.640 --> 02:07:42.800
not work on the broadcasts. Like
like there there was definitely that sort of

1987
02:07:42.800 --> 02:07:46.800
a disconnect. What happens in between
during the commercials is everyone just get somebody

1988
02:07:46.840 --> 02:07:49.119
out. It's just like where I
work, the crowd, so I will

1989
02:07:49.119 --> 02:07:50.960
come a back and then they turn
the light back on and all the seat

1990
02:07:50.960 --> 02:07:55.720
fillers go ape shit again for the
for the return ye and it just continues

1991
02:07:55.920 --> 02:08:01.600
like a countdown. Ever that makes
sense then, yeah, but like even

1992
02:08:01.640 --> 02:08:05.000
look at something like the Oscars,
right, probably the biggest award show maybe

1993
02:08:05.039 --> 02:08:09.439
in the world, right, the
most the most produced, most produced those

1994
02:08:09.720 --> 02:08:13.399
that thing bombs all the time.
It's super snoo Think about all the writers

1995
02:08:13.520 --> 02:08:16.239
and like time that is spent in
that and that's a bunch of that's a

1996
02:08:16.319 --> 02:08:22.920
room full of people whose entire lives
are dedicated to filmic entertainment and right,

1997
02:08:22.239 --> 02:08:26.800
and also hosts that are like that's
all they are professional actors and hosts,

1998
02:08:26.960 --> 02:08:31.199
and the writing is sometimes terrible.
The bits are lame, Like I think

1999
02:08:31.239 --> 02:08:35.640
that, Yeah, I think award
shows are dumb, and that's why.

2000
02:08:35.760 --> 02:08:37.640
That's why I think it's really smart
that they end up packing all this,

2001
02:08:39.600 --> 02:08:41.239
all these premiers and all all these
trailers onto it, because at least something

2002
02:08:41.359 --> 02:08:45.399
happens, right. I Mean,
Award shows may all suck, but most

2003
02:08:45.439 --> 02:08:48.079
of them don't make fans of the
medium feel embarrassed for themselves. True,

2004
02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:52.600
Like you know what, I think, I feel like everyone really you got

2005
02:08:52.680 --> 02:08:54.560
to take a long, hard look
at the fucking Oscars, man, because

2006
02:08:56.239 --> 02:09:01.239
interpretive dance routines of this movie's like
best scores, Give me a fucking break.

2007
02:09:01.640 --> 02:09:05.199
We're like the but like, like
we're talking about enthusiast press getting pretty

2008
02:09:05.359 --> 02:09:09.279
wrangled in the crowds here. But
like you're right, you're right, and

2009
02:09:09.359 --> 02:09:11.279
so that crowd isn't going to have
that same perspective on the Oscars because they're

2010
02:09:11.279 --> 02:09:15.800
not as close to that stuff.
But like, there you see enough people

2011
02:09:15.840 --> 02:09:20.680
that are watching the Oscars and just
getting as as cringed out as anyone would

2012
02:09:20.720 --> 02:09:22.560
also like they're seeing at the moment, but not at the fact that they

2013
02:09:22.600 --> 02:09:28.239
are fans of film. I also
think that, like you know, we're

2014
02:09:28.279 --> 02:09:31.199
looking at the person who says that
that this is that that this is making

2015
02:09:31.239 --> 02:09:33.840
them embarrassed to be a fan of
games like has their priorities. It's not

2016
02:09:35.079 --> 02:09:37.800
that it's that, it's that you
feel embarrassed that somebody you know might look

2017
02:09:37.840 --> 02:09:41.319
at that and think that you're into
it. That's a valid I don't want

2018
02:09:41.319 --> 02:09:43.039
to be associated with that kind of
material because I mean a lot of people

2019
02:09:43.079 --> 02:09:48.119
don't understand what video games are.
It's still pretty narrow field. But also

2020
02:09:48.279 --> 02:09:52.039
there are way more people playing video
games than anyone complaining about this show on

2021
02:09:52.079 --> 02:09:56.840
the internet. Think and you know, it's like you you look at the

2022
02:09:56.079 --> 02:10:00.199
number of sales that a game like
Modern Warfare three does and these kind of

2023
02:10:00.199 --> 02:10:03.960
biggest like they're not just selling to
kids with Twitter accounts that are all set

2024
02:10:03.039 --> 02:10:05.520
up to complain about this show.
There's probably some people to watch that one,

2025
02:10:05.560 --> 02:10:07.760
like yeah, whatever, man,
fucking awesome, I'm gonna go get

2026
02:10:07.760 --> 02:10:13.960
some more headshots like that crowd exists
and there are probably some people to watch

2027
02:10:13.039 --> 02:10:16.119
that show, and it didn't really
have a problem with it. Like you

2028
02:10:16.359 --> 02:10:20.720
would imagine anyone that's watching that is
watching it because they wanted to watch it,

2029
02:10:20.800 --> 02:10:22.239
you know, like some people will
have like just watch the Oscars because

2030
02:10:22.279 --> 02:10:24.720
like, well it's this big thing. Everyone's you know, everyone's watching the

2031
02:10:24.760 --> 02:10:28.560
Oscars like it's an event. Like
I don't think the Spike TV like,

2032
02:10:28.600 --> 02:10:31.720
I don't think there's anyone that's gonna
and just end up flip into the video

2033
02:10:31.760 --> 02:10:37.800
game. It's all it's a hypothetical
problem. It's not like my aunt called

2034
02:10:37.840 --> 02:10:39.680
me up on Monday morning and said, oh, man, I bet you

2035
02:10:39.840 --> 02:10:41.039
love it. You know, but
the problem that I got spotting on that

2036
02:10:41.079 --> 02:10:43.199
other guy's face, didn't you.
The problem is that if they fixed the

2037
02:10:43.359 --> 02:10:48.680
if they just fixed that part,
it would not stem the complaints. People

2038
02:10:48.720 --> 02:10:52.439
would still be bitching about the Spike
TV V. I think you have three

2039
02:10:52.479 --> 02:10:54.680
people will be complaining about that regardless
forever, for all time. It kind

2040
02:10:54.720 --> 02:10:58.960
of doesn't matter what they do.
You're right, and some people that will

2041
02:10:58.000 --> 02:11:01.600
never be pleased by this. So
two Spike TV, like what what good

2042
02:11:01.680 --> 02:11:05.560
is there in addressing with stuff?
No? No, no, And also

2043
02:11:05.640 --> 02:11:09.199
like again because the dude to production
companies, like just because you know,

2044
02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:11.600
you know, I can't understand all
of Jeff Keeley's process, but like he's

2045
02:11:11.640 --> 02:11:15.079
been you know, very forthright with
the criticism and like he you know,

2046
02:11:15.319 --> 02:11:16.760
doesn't flip out like but and he
says that they're reading it all, but

2047
02:11:16.840 --> 02:11:20.720
ultimately like he doesn't make the show. It's a totally different productions credit.

2048
02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:24.359
On the show, he was like
executive producer. It was a producer in

2049
02:11:24.479 --> 02:11:30.239
charge of public relations, like a
really weird title. So he's the one

2050
02:11:30.279 --> 02:11:33.840
that knew the people to get the
exclusive. Heis, here's a production company

2051
02:11:33.920 --> 02:11:37.000
wants to make a video game ardship
that knows nothing about video games. You're

2052
02:11:37.039 --> 02:11:41.920
the guy who knows about video games, and we're probably if I had to

2053
02:11:41.960 --> 02:11:43.920
guess, I'd say they probably did
not listen to him at all, right,

2054
02:11:45.239 --> 02:11:46.479
Or they have their book, they
have their guests, and everybody like

2055
02:11:46.600 --> 02:11:50.079
who He's not making the decision to
bring El Cool Jay on. Somebody else

2056
02:11:50.119 --> 02:11:54.720
has been booking talent for a while
and they're like, here's who we can

2057
02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:58.640
get. How do we make these? From the perspective, he is doing

2058
02:11:58.640 --> 02:12:01.600
a good up of picking like the
right unannounced stuff to go out and give.

2059
02:12:01.680 --> 02:12:05.479
I think for the most part,
the most in terms of like stuff

2060
02:12:05.479 --> 02:12:09.279
that you can announce in December,
which is increasingly becoming more and more because

2061
02:12:09.319 --> 02:12:13.880
I think people are starting to program
with this in mind or build announcements with

2062
02:12:13.960 --> 02:12:16.479
this show in mind. Yeah,
I think that aspect of the show is

2063
02:12:16.560 --> 02:12:20.039
pretty much fine unless you're going to
take the approach of like, well,

2064
02:12:20.079 --> 02:12:24.399
that's all advertising, which you know
it kind of is. But if we

2065
02:12:24.439 --> 02:12:28.520
want to get into the all trailers
are ads thing, then this whole industry

2066
02:12:28.640 --> 02:12:31.680
is broken. So let's let's not
go down that path just yet. I'd

2067
02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:35.520
step that conversation for the time being. Yeah, so there were some cool

2068
02:12:35.560 --> 02:12:37.640
games announced, Yeah, at Vj's. Yeah. I will admit to being

2069
02:12:37.720 --> 02:12:41.880
genuinely shocked at seeing the Naughty Dog
logo on the Last of Us. Yeah,

2070
02:12:41.960 --> 02:12:46.000
that's the next Naughty Dog game.
I guess they've been. It's been

2071
02:12:46.199 --> 02:12:50.119
over two years. I don't I
forget who the lead designer is on it.

2072
02:12:50.159 --> 02:12:56.039
There's a lead from from Enslaves,
it's on it. This has been

2073
02:12:56.159 --> 02:12:58.960
both in parallel with with Uncharted three
and so x Ninja theory guy. Well,

2074
02:13:00.319 --> 02:13:01.159
he's not like the head guy.
He is a guy, yeah,

2075
02:13:01.680 --> 02:13:05.119
the creative director as a guy who
was like a writer Uncharted two. I

2076
02:13:05.199 --> 02:13:07.439
think he was. He was one
of the guys from a Charted two.

2077
02:13:09.560 --> 02:13:13.720
So it's what I'm trying to say. Scott is a different, different lead.

2078
02:13:13.840 --> 02:13:16.159
There's been some things, you know, a lot of people kind of

2079
02:13:16.199 --> 02:13:20.560
saying things about Uncharted three not not
pushing forward, not necessarily as impactful as

2080
02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:26.079
Uncharted two. This help you to
understand why yea, yeah, it's a

2081
02:13:26.159 --> 02:13:28.199
really well made game in that exact
same mold. Yeah, and that makes

2082
02:13:28.920 --> 02:13:33.640
more because the visionaries are off working
on this other thing ostensible it seems that

2083
02:13:33.720 --> 02:13:39.439
way. This looks like like I'll
be as reductive as possible in the negative

2084
02:13:39.479 --> 02:13:41.479
way that Brad didn't want to be
earlier. This this looks like, you

2085
02:13:41.520 --> 02:13:46.720
know, Uncharted meets I am lege
absolutely, but I trust Naughty Dog to

2086
02:13:46.840 --> 02:13:54.119
take easily reduced concepts and make fucking
kick ass games Uncharted with better shooting original

2087
02:13:54.159 --> 02:13:56.359
about Uncharted. Yeah, Uncharted is
as you know, what you do with

2088
02:13:56.439 --> 02:14:01.039
the column A, column B,
as you can get absolutely and a Naughty

2089
02:14:01.079 --> 02:14:03.520
Dog I feel, uh, you
know, I have. I still have

2090
02:14:03.079 --> 02:14:07.600
the utmost faith in that studio.
To me, it just comes back to

2091
02:14:07.760 --> 02:14:11.880
not necessarily wanting to play something that
looks a lot like a zombie game.

2092
02:14:11.960 --> 02:14:13.279
Yeah, well what kind of game
it is is is the biggest worry for

2093
02:14:13.359 --> 02:14:16.079
me, because is there going to
be a bunch of like urban troversal like

2094
02:14:16.359 --> 02:14:20.439
cribing on, like really convenient surfaces, arm reaches out and that's how you

2095
02:14:20.520 --> 02:14:24.079
know he can get there. Exactly
do you play as the guy or do

2096
02:14:24.159 --> 02:14:26.680
you play as a girl or is
it co op and you play as both.

2097
02:14:28.079 --> 02:14:30.800
I want to play as a girl
with Switchblade against a zombie horde,

2098
02:14:30.840 --> 02:14:33.840
Like are you gonna be shooting twenty
of those things? Like I don't don't

2099
02:14:33.840 --> 02:14:37.960
necessarily want to play a third person
shooter in which you are shooting zombie men.

2100
02:14:39.039 --> 02:14:41.039
I hope, whether they're not legitimately
zombies or not, the behavior is

2101
02:14:41.239 --> 02:14:45.439
zombie esque enough. I think we
can turn to the modern zombies are fast

2102
02:14:45.479 --> 02:14:50.520
content. Like my hope is that
combat is is sparse and yeah, like

2103
02:14:50.640 --> 02:14:54.000
I hope that like a disaster report
like something like that, like infrequent but

2104
02:14:54.159 --> 02:14:58.239
really really serious threats like when you
want like the healing system from MGS three

2105
02:14:58.359 --> 02:15:01.920
or something where it's like a breaking
bones and have to you know, I

2106
02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:05.079
mean, like a few adventure elements
would probably go a long way. And

2107
02:15:05.159 --> 02:15:07.680
setting like this if it's something where
when you engage, like when combat happens,

2108
02:15:07.760 --> 02:15:11.079
like it's a big deal. Yeah, Like it's it's it's meaningful,

2109
02:15:11.239 --> 02:15:13.159
like it's it's you're you're sweating it, like, I think something like that

2110
02:15:13.319 --> 02:15:16.600
that really because like, yeah,
played up the survival aspect. I think

2111
02:15:16.600 --> 02:15:20.560
could be like what if you what
if you only fight stuff like half a

2112
02:15:20.560 --> 02:15:22.880
dozen times over the course of the
entire game, and you get the smash

2113
02:15:22.960 --> 02:15:26.720
Jude's heads with a four by four
Okay, all right, four by four?

2114
02:15:26.720 --> 02:15:28.840
All right, I don't know,
you have me at four by four.

2115
02:15:28.960 --> 02:15:31.319
At about two by four, it
was that's too small. That was

2116
02:15:31.359 --> 02:15:33.920
just snapping ahead. The girl drive
a truck. Are the trucks yeah,

2117
02:15:35.039 --> 02:15:39.039
probably trucks Dead Island trucks, yes
or no? And I don't know.

2118
02:15:39.079 --> 02:15:41.279
I always thought we saw yeah,
I talked to some well all of that

2119
02:15:41.520 --> 02:15:43.880
truck, talked to the lead truck
design. All of that was played on

2120
02:15:43.920 --> 02:15:48.880
a PlayStation three. It was no
joke. They put the blue ray in

2121
02:15:48.920 --> 02:15:56.079
and hit start and here you go. We were right, and then we

2122
02:15:56.199 --> 02:15:58.680
recorded that onto. The last time
someone made to such a big deal about

2123
02:15:58.720 --> 02:16:03.920
something running on a PlayStation three was
the Kills Them two footage and you seeing

2124
02:16:03.960 --> 02:16:07.439
that, I was like, yeah, that was that was That was pr

2125
02:16:07.520 --> 02:16:09.079
telling me, yeah, that was
absolutely real off PlayStation three, and I

2126
02:16:09.119 --> 02:16:11.600
went, all right, that's what
they say guys, but at least this

2127
02:16:15.000 --> 02:16:16.520
right, Sure, Yeah it was. It was more of just sort of

2128
02:16:16.560 --> 02:16:20.079
like a matter of fact, like
okay, there was never like any no,

2129
02:16:20.199 --> 02:16:22.199
no, you're like yeah, okay. It was just kind of wait

2130
02:16:22.199 --> 02:16:26.720
to get Yeah, especially those look
like cut scenes from a PlayStation three,

2131
02:16:26.279 --> 02:16:28.840
especially coming from the guys who made
the last feel chartered games. Yeah,

2132
02:16:28.840 --> 02:16:31.239
you can say you guys can make
really good looking games. Yeah, yeah,

2133
02:16:31.399 --> 02:16:37.159
there you're gonna beat it up a
little bit, maybe just saying I

2134
02:16:37.239 --> 02:16:41.319
saw on chart to do that game. It looked really good in that game.

2135
02:16:41.200 --> 02:16:45.760
Curtains are nice, but better knife
dynamics might be. But that's a

2136
02:16:45.799 --> 02:16:50.399
PlayStation three game. I guess.
Yeah, I guess so Fortnite. Did

2137
02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:52.680
he see anything else about it?
Because I didn't watch it was your dates

2138
02:16:52.760 --> 02:16:56.840
or anything? Year? Okay,
for sure it should be. It should

2139
02:16:56.840 --> 02:17:01.879
be on a magazine covering near you
so soon just a girl with the switch

2140
02:17:01.920 --> 02:17:09.879
blade Fortnite. It's the new epic
game, but not like the new it's

2141
02:17:09.920 --> 02:17:15.079
not the new epic games. He
played it up a little too much before

2142
02:17:15.120 --> 02:17:18.200
the show. Cliffski would argue they
played it up just the right amount.

2143
02:17:18.280 --> 02:17:22.280
I'm sure he would. Sure,
Yeah, this is coming. Lee Perry

2144
02:17:22.319 --> 02:17:26.879
who was did he? Did he
work on Gears of War? I don't

2145
02:17:26.920 --> 02:17:30.399
know. He's listed as a lead
designer at Epic, so maybe it's kind

2146
02:17:30.440 --> 02:17:31.360
of like Cliffin as a general role. I don't know. They say it's

2147
02:17:31.760 --> 02:17:37.239
there's a CG trailer. They say
it's inspired by Minecraft. Yes, that

2148
02:17:37.319 --> 02:17:41.440
trailer, definitely, I see that
influence or tower defense elements, but it's

2149
02:17:41.440 --> 02:17:43.559
not a tower defense game. I
don't know. I thought that art style

2150
02:17:43.639 --> 02:17:48.920
looked really interesting from the perspective of
you don't think Epic will make a game

2151
02:17:48.959 --> 02:17:52.079
that looks like that. I see
them doing something different. It does not

2152
02:17:52.159 --> 02:17:56.399
look like Gears of War. It
is the first dudes look like they are

2153
02:17:56.520 --> 02:18:01.239
human football pads. So that's the
first kind of non Gears of War game

2154
02:18:01.280 --> 02:18:03.319
they've put out since Gears of War. Well, they're using the Rage engine,

2155
02:18:03.360 --> 02:18:07.959
right yea, right up here here
in the Minecraft comparison makes it seem

2156
02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:11.520
like a vehicle for expansion of the
Unreal engine to me, right now,

2157
02:18:11.719 --> 02:18:16.520
now here is some text that the
Unreal engine is not. Traditionally, I

2158
02:18:16.559 --> 02:18:20.040
will say, the kind of hearing
of them not shy away from Minecraft comparisons

2159
02:18:20.120 --> 02:18:24.479
seems kind of dirty to me in
the sense of a small development team.

2160
02:18:24.520 --> 02:18:28.799
And then here comes the guys that
make the engine that powers every game ever,

2161
02:18:28.920 --> 02:18:31.520
going like, we're gonna make a
game like that too, what mine?

2162
02:18:31.559 --> 02:18:35.399
What I remember? That mean that
fort the end it's like Fortnite.

2163
02:18:35.639 --> 02:18:39.159
Oh yeah, yeah, that's it's
it's a little weird. But by the

2164
02:18:39.200 --> 02:18:41.959
time this game comes out that they
will have made their Minecraft money, whatever

2165
02:18:41.959 --> 02:18:48.399
they've made. Maybe it's kind of
maybe it's kind of pointless. So much

2166
02:18:48.399 --> 02:18:52.520
money has already been made off Minecraft
that they might as well be But yeah,

2167
02:18:52.600 --> 02:18:54.159
now, yes, now is the
time that everyone else cashes the fuck

2168
02:18:54.239 --> 02:18:58.319
in because this is big enough to
be a trend. Maybe it's inspired by

2169
02:18:58.360 --> 02:19:00.959
Minecraft in the sense that you can
buy the beta and then you know,

2170
02:19:01.000 --> 02:19:03.799
when the game comes out for free, it's cool, like other little guys

2171
02:19:03.879 --> 02:19:05.399
have been doing that for a while. Yeah, it's r Area Forces Craft.

2172
02:19:05.440 --> 02:19:11.360
Oh there's no shortage on the Xbox
are outright? Yeah? Not inspired

2173
02:19:11.399 --> 02:19:13.319
by some are more naked than others? Is there is this one? Definitely

2174
02:19:13.719 --> 02:19:16.799
just like the idea of there's a
night cycle and during the nighttime you have

2175
02:19:16.840 --> 02:19:22.879
to defend your you know, your
base against weird nighttime Monsters. I'm like,

2176
02:19:22.959 --> 02:19:26.000
okay, Like I was, I
was starting to think Minecraft even before

2177
02:19:26.120 --> 02:19:28.840
the trailer was over, and I
dug around online and saw that people were

2178
02:19:28.879 --> 02:19:31.000
talking about that. So I think
it. I think it conveys that it's

2179
02:19:31.040 --> 02:19:37.079
not trying to be. It's not
trying to I don't think clearly presents itself

2180
02:19:37.120 --> 02:19:39.879
as a game about building things.
And actually I almost prefer they're just straight

2181
02:19:39.959 --> 02:19:43.200
up saying yeah, it was influence
by Minecraft, rather than like trying to

2182
02:19:43.200 --> 02:19:50.559
play Coreya back on our expectations a
little bit. Yeah, I go,

2183
02:19:50.639 --> 02:19:52.639
okay, well that yeah, kind
of as opposed to we see it in

2184
02:19:52.719 --> 02:19:56.120
three months or six months and I, oh, you guys just need Minecraft,

2185
02:19:56.559 --> 02:20:01.040
Okay? Are they They'll bring in
Minecraft to my Xbox? Yeah,

2186
02:20:01.399 --> 02:20:05.360
connecting a ring okay? Out on
Android? I things on an iPhone too.

2187
02:20:05.600 --> 02:20:15.319
All that that stuff is Fortnight huh
Fortnite fort Night huh? Got it?

2188
02:20:16.680 --> 02:20:20.840
Jeff telling me about Tony Hawk,
Well he's a skateboarder. What he

2189
02:20:20.920 --> 02:20:28.680
looks really tired? And yeah,
yeah Tony Hawk? Was there really video?

2190
02:20:28.719 --> 02:20:31.239
You thinking that they should not be
bringing out Tony Hawk anymore. I

2191
02:20:31.280 --> 02:20:33.319
feel like Tony Hawk has paid his
dues he's done. Whatever he means,

2192
02:20:33.440 --> 02:20:35.799
he's been doing this for like more
than a fucking decade at this point,

2193
02:20:35.879 --> 02:20:39.639
just slit. So he did double
duty. He did double duty on the

2194
02:20:39.719 --> 02:20:43.840
pre show, announced his upcoming game, and then came out to not to

2195
02:20:45.120 --> 02:20:50.520
introduce the Spider Man trailer on the
show itself got him by the nuts until

2196
02:20:50.520 --> 02:20:52.920
twenty fifteen, I think is the
last date, so you know. So

2197
02:20:54.040 --> 02:20:56.559
that's why it was obvious that they
were always going to eventually do another Tony

2198
02:20:56.559 --> 02:20:58.440
Hawk game, because they had locked
him up for so long that someone's just

2199
02:20:58.559 --> 02:21:03.799
like throw money away to not do
something with it. Parts When did they

2200
02:21:03.120 --> 02:21:07.040
trick? When did they re up? That was that around? It was

2201
02:21:07.040 --> 02:21:09.040
a while ago when they signed like
a lengthy deal with him. No,

2202
02:21:09.200 --> 02:21:13.000
no, then they reupted at some
point when it still made sense to do

2203
02:21:13.200 --> 02:21:15.600
that. Yeah, I remember that
was right around the time the bottom dropped.

2204
02:21:15.600 --> 02:21:18.239
I remember they made their ten year
interview because or think their ten year

2205
02:21:18.479 --> 02:21:20.799
deal with him, because I interviewed
him and said like, so, like,

2206
02:21:20.559 --> 02:21:22.719
what do you do, Like how
do you keep doing this for that

2207
02:21:22.840 --> 02:21:26.399
long? He's like, I don't
know's I don't figure that. He's like,

2208
02:21:26.399 --> 02:21:28.520
that's where these guys to figure out. But I feel like he never

2209
02:21:28.639 --> 02:21:31.559
felt like anytime, and he's been
doing this a long time. He's been

2210
02:21:31.600 --> 02:21:35.840
in pretty much every event ever,
so like I feel like he's never really

2211
02:21:35.879 --> 02:21:39.280
phoned it in but always kind of
been oddly sincere in a way. I've

2212
02:21:39.280 --> 02:21:43.000
always kind of respected Tony Hawk at
events. You think he buys it,

2213
02:21:43.079 --> 02:21:46.639
you think he believes what it is
that he's selling, not not the sincerity

2214
02:21:46.959 --> 02:21:50.879
in that way, the sincerity,
the self awareness and kind of like I'm

2215
02:21:50.920 --> 02:21:54.799
here, let's take some pictures and
do that. Why I know why I'm

2216
02:21:54.840 --> 02:21:58.360
here. I'm gonna go do the
half pipe thing. For me, it

2217
02:21:58.440 --> 02:22:01.440
was the stuff that was happening right
around the time the Tony Hawk Ride was

2218
02:22:01.479 --> 02:22:03.360
coming out, when he was starting
to like call out reviewers and be real

2219
02:22:03.440 --> 02:22:05.200
weird about it. That was when
I kind of went like all right,

2220
02:22:05.360 --> 02:22:13.120
turned on Hawk. That makes me
think that he really does like believing and

2221
02:22:13.159 --> 02:22:15.639
all that stuff, Like when you
watch the videos for like behind the scenes

2222
02:22:15.719 --> 02:22:18.639
like with with Rid and stuff like, yeah, he was gonna be a

2223
02:22:18.680 --> 02:22:24.600
really cool, big thing and I
think actually idea. Yeah, there was

2224
02:22:24.639 --> 02:22:26.120
a lot of things and they just
didn't properly say, like and by the

2225
02:22:26.200 --> 02:22:31.000
way, only kids will like it, but made even and maybe not even

2226
02:22:31.079 --> 02:22:33.879
them if they had come out and
said that we don't know who will like

2227
02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:37.360
this game, but it's a neat
idea. Right. So this is actually

2228
02:22:37.360 --> 02:22:39.600
being developed by Robomoto, the guys
who did those last two games. Who's

2229
02:22:39.680 --> 02:22:43.799
left at robomo right, yea,
yeah, most of that team was laid

2230
02:22:43.799 --> 02:22:48.120
off Chicago teams, Chicago one of
the last last Chicago teams out there,

2231
02:22:48.399 --> 02:22:52.600
right, uh. And this is
going to be taking levels from the first

2232
02:22:52.799 --> 02:22:56.479
two Tony Hawk games and redoing them. That this PS one yeah, yeah,

2233
02:22:56.600 --> 02:23:01.239
yeah, the PS one Tony Hawks
and what does that game? I

2234
02:23:01.239 --> 02:23:05.559
mean z that get me? Uh? Transitions betweens. So they didn't say

2235
02:23:05.600 --> 02:23:09.440
anything about the mechanics. It's hard
to release say, but it'll be at

2236
02:23:09.520 --> 02:23:15.120
the very least manuals. I would
hope that they would include reverts reverts in

2237
02:23:15.159 --> 02:23:18.000
that game, for Christ's sakes,
even though those didn't come along until three,

2238
02:23:18.719 --> 02:23:20.399
because I think that that's that's where
you complete think combo system. I

2239
02:23:20.440 --> 02:23:24.479
think you want to retool levels significantly
if you're gonna put reverts in there,

2240
02:23:24.479 --> 02:23:30.000
because that changes scope and scale.
I mean, they release they've rereleased some

2241
02:23:30.040 --> 02:23:33.440
of those levels, uh, you
know after adding the revert, and it

2242
02:23:33.600 --> 02:23:37.319
was still fine. You know,
it definitely did some weird things, yeah,

2243
02:23:37.360 --> 02:23:39.600
exactly, like the combos got a
lot longer and stuff like that.

2244
02:23:39.680 --> 02:23:41.600
But I think that's just you need
that stuff for a tony off game at

2245
02:23:41.639 --> 02:23:45.399
this point, like, I don't
want to go back to you. I

2246
02:23:45.479 --> 02:23:48.000
want to want to take mechanics away
from anything past three. If they want

2247
02:23:48.000 --> 02:23:50.479
to say like, hey, you
can't get off the board, I'll be

2248
02:23:50.520 --> 02:23:52.280
like, fine, dude, whatever, Okay, spine transfers you don't care,

2249
02:23:52.479 --> 02:23:54.680
No, do not care about spine
transfers. They're there. They were

2250
02:23:54.760 --> 02:23:58.879
fine, but not vital. I
feel like the the manual was the first

2251
02:24:00.079 --> 02:24:03.040
step to giving it a proper combo
system, and then the revert completed it.

2252
02:24:03.200 --> 02:24:07.040
Yeah, and and anything past that
is just kind of like take it

2253
02:24:07.120 --> 02:24:11.879
or leave it. But they showed
a level. It looks it looks pretty

2254
02:24:11.920 --> 02:24:13.479
nice, So it's hard to kind
of say, you know, like but

2255
02:24:13.559 --> 02:24:18.239
it was. It was all gameplay
pretty clearly. It's kind of ways off

2256
02:24:18.280 --> 02:24:24.079
next summer, Yeah, summer summer
release and downloadable for for levels from one,

2257
02:24:24.239 --> 02:24:26.440
two, not necessarily one and two, right not not necessarily the entire

2258
02:24:28.200 --> 02:24:31.639
game cat you know, catalog of
one and two levels will probably selections,

2259
02:24:31.959 --> 02:24:33.319
which means they'll maybe they'll leave out
that downhill one or something. But I

2260
02:24:33.399 --> 02:24:35.319
think they were talking about maybe they
having that one. I don't know.

2261
02:24:37.120 --> 02:24:41.799
They are updating the roster of skaters
a little bit and some of the some

2262
02:24:41.879 --> 02:24:45.639
of the skaters who've appeared in much
later Tony Hawk games are gonna appear because

2263
02:24:45.639 --> 02:24:48.440
I think they might have signed deals
with some of them too. Uh.

2264
02:24:48.840 --> 02:24:54.479
They probably they can just carry over
red to go back and resign from from

2265
02:24:54.520 --> 02:24:58.479
one. Did not see bamar Jara
on that list, Spider Man, did

2266
02:24:58.559 --> 02:25:01.840
not see spider Man on that list. I would hope that you would put

2267
02:25:01.520 --> 02:25:05.600
Spider Man in that game. I
mean, they'd make the Spider Man games

2268
02:25:05.639 --> 02:25:07.920
still, so like I think that's
that's pretty key. I would like to

2269
02:25:07.959 --> 02:25:15.440
see Darth Maul show up also.
But about Darth Maul, whatever the flagwagon

2270
02:25:15.600 --> 02:25:18.399
gonna be in there. Yeah,
I don't know, no soundtrack details at

2271
02:25:18.399 --> 02:25:22.000
all. Yeah, it sounds the
soundtrack. I'm super the soundtrack in those

2272
02:25:22.000 --> 02:25:26.559
first two Tony of games is clutch. That's arguably one of the most important

2273
02:25:26.600 --> 02:25:28.479
parts. Or even if they renegotiate
all that stuff that I absolutely have to.

2274
02:25:28.680 --> 02:25:33.120
Yeah, now it's worth now,
it's worth way less. Now it's

2275
02:25:33.200 --> 02:25:35.719
way easier to get those songs.
Are that like mid nineties punkin SKA.

2276
02:25:35.879 --> 02:25:39.520
These guys are like, you can
pay us for those again, great,

2277
02:25:39.719 --> 02:25:45.760
fantastic our URBN releases have been doing
shit for business through college. Yeah,

2278
02:25:45.840 --> 02:25:50.680
exactly, first semester bills if if
that. I listened to a lot of

2279
02:25:50.760 --> 02:25:54.680
punk pants the first time, like
Pennywise and bands like that for the first

2280
02:25:54.719 --> 02:25:56.920
time. Yeah, it was good. It was a good exposure I thought.

2281
02:25:58.520 --> 02:26:01.159
Yeah. So, I mean that's
you know, as someone who has

2282
02:26:01.200 --> 02:26:05.319
said several times they should release the
old Tony Hawk games in higher quality graphics

2283
02:26:05.360 --> 02:26:09.639
as a downloadable game credit, I
think it's great that they're putting out older

2284
02:26:09.719 --> 02:26:15.760
Tony Hawk games. Absolutely not,
it's take me off. I mean it's

2285
02:26:15.879 --> 02:26:18.440
it's not like that's not the most
obvious idea of the world, apparently not

2286
02:26:20.600 --> 02:26:24.159
four years. Yeah, but they
had no reason to do it till they

2287
02:26:24.200 --> 02:26:28.000
were in desperation mode. Yeah,
it was like, why put out Multipley.

2288
02:26:28.680 --> 02:26:31.840
It's not like Activision puts out a
lot of downloadable games period. Yeah,

2289
02:26:33.440 --> 02:26:37.360
that's true. It's a good point, huh yep, and yeah,

2290
02:26:37.520 --> 02:26:41.120
keeping jobs in Chicago. God bless
him. Is there a name for it?

2291
02:26:41.680 --> 02:26:48.840
Tony Hawk's pro Skater HD right there. So I'm you know, yeah,

2292
02:26:48.040 --> 02:26:52.840
I'm not necessarily the biggest fan of
HD remakes and re releases and stuff

2293
02:26:52.879 --> 02:26:56.840
like that. But like those Tony
Hawk games, think they go through the

2294
02:26:56.879 --> 02:27:00.719
catalog they got all the way up
the Thug two. I think it would

2295
02:27:00.719 --> 02:27:03.280
be great if they actually did do
DLC and started adding levels a lot after

2296
02:27:03.319 --> 02:27:07.040
the fact. I think that depends
on how well this thing does and all

2297
02:27:07.120 --> 02:27:11.280
that, because it's you know,
you'll notice that they're just choosing PS one

2298
02:27:11.440 --> 02:27:15.920
era games, like they're not taking
the PS two Tony Hawk three stuff and

2299
02:27:15.920 --> 02:27:18.600
cramming in there as well. Like
it's just the earliest of the early And

2300
02:27:18.840 --> 02:27:22.120
I wonder how good they make it
look. I mean the trailer that the

2301
02:27:22.440 --> 02:27:26.159
video they put out is of the
game and how it looks. You should

2302
02:27:26.159 --> 02:27:28.600
watch watch it. Do you think
it looks? It looks pretty good.

2303
02:27:28.120 --> 02:27:33.719
It is a let's say, modern
So I just mean as far as,

2304
02:27:33.799 --> 02:27:37.360
like you know, other than an
issue of of the size of the levels,

2305
02:27:37.719 --> 02:27:41.959
you know, there's not any real
good reason that you couldn't bring Tony

2306
02:27:43.000 --> 02:27:46.639
Hawk three stuff in there and have
it still work right exactly it and have

2307
02:27:46.719 --> 02:27:48.760
it look appreciably better, I guess
is the thing, because that's supposed it

2308
02:27:48.799 --> 02:27:52.840
depends on how That's all the HD
means, right, is if we made

2309
02:27:52.879 --> 02:27:56.440
it look a little better than it
used to look, right Like, When

2310
02:27:56.440 --> 02:27:58.000
it comes down to it, it
doesn't hurt to look as long as it's

2311
02:27:58.040 --> 02:28:01.959
yeah, as long as we yeah, it doesn't alien, it doesn't look

2312
02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:05.719
like what if we put out a
new fucking Tony Hawk game today it would

2313
02:28:05.799 --> 02:28:11.360
look like. But I wonder if
imagine they are going to include support for

2314
02:28:11.440 --> 02:28:13.879
the rod controller. I was just
I was gonna say, in the true

2315
02:28:13.879 --> 02:28:18.159
Tony Hawk sense, they should let
that that should be a board option that

2316
02:28:18.719 --> 02:28:22.559
in the game you a hoverboard.
They did at some point, but it

2317
02:28:22.600 --> 02:28:26.000
should just not hover It should just
be on the ground, grind against the

2318
02:28:26.040 --> 02:28:30.760
ground, just never moves. You
get on it and just you sit at

2319
02:28:30.760 --> 02:28:33.639
the top of the the moves kind
of like on the board. What if

2320
02:28:33.680 --> 02:28:35.840
it's just the camera stays on you
on the board and then you see a

2321
02:28:35.920 --> 02:28:39.159
ghost skater doing whatever they're doing,
but you have to do the camera doesn't

2322
02:28:41.239 --> 02:28:45.639
kind of sense of humor of the
game. Yeah, Dick, that'd be

2323
02:28:45.680 --> 02:28:48.399
pretty funny if they put it in
the game. It's just a shame that

2324
02:28:48.239 --> 02:28:52.639
what is the state of never soft
is there? It doesn't exist. The

2325
02:28:54.120 --> 02:28:58.239
exist. They turn into a Guitar
Hero factory and then cut a bunch of

2326
02:28:58.319 --> 02:29:01.920
people. But they didn't shut it
down there. They did call of duty

2327
02:29:03.000 --> 02:29:05.719
maps, didn't they Yeah, they
were doing Call of duty stuff. They

2328
02:29:05.719 --> 02:29:07.520
were working on support they have.
They are working on a big game.

2329
02:29:07.559 --> 02:29:11.440
That is all. That is all
I can so they existed. They exist

2330
02:29:11.639 --> 02:29:16.079
enough that they are working on a
game that's not just DLC. I cannot

2331
02:29:16.079 --> 02:29:16.879
say more than that, but they
are. They are, They're working on

2332
02:29:16.959 --> 02:29:20.479
things. They moved on from the
Tario to work on Some part of me

2333
02:29:20.680 --> 02:29:26.479
that wishes that that that was the
Yeah, they totally did. They wouldn't.

2334
02:29:26.479 --> 02:29:31.280
It wouldn't be any of those people
something. You still you still abide

2335
02:29:31.280 --> 02:29:35.719
by the never Soft name in some
way still has never in a guitar Hero

2336
02:29:35.879 --> 02:29:39.799
sense. But yeah, well sure, but you still hold that torch.

2337
02:29:39.000 --> 02:29:43.440
Yeah I do. It's weird,
I know, because that's clearly not the

2338
02:29:43.520 --> 02:29:48.719
same. Dudes. I know theocalypse
too, also well, while we're god,

2339
02:29:50.120 --> 02:29:52.239
Bruce willis starting the phone. They
didn't know that on the phone and

2340
02:29:52.360 --> 02:30:01.000
get po and poh what else of
those time? Yes, no, whatever,

2341
02:30:01.040 --> 02:30:07.079
I'll talk about amazing Spider Man on
the PlayStation one. That was some

2342
02:30:07.120 --> 02:30:15.959
ship right there. Never soft killing
it. BioWare's Commanding Conquerenceware. I'm sorry.

2343
02:30:16.079 --> 02:30:18.280
The trailer just says BioWare, I
don't know what you're talking about gywear

2344
02:30:18.479 --> 02:30:24.360
victory. But where is that?
Where's where's victory? What's the point point

2345
02:30:24.399 --> 02:30:26.840
on the map? Where's Angeles?
So is that true? Is that a

2346
02:30:26.879 --> 02:30:31.920
neighborhood. Yeah, it's the Ela. It's like the former Amanica Generals too.

2347
02:30:33.440 --> 02:30:43.360
From BioWare Victory Victory. That's some
interesting brand management. Bower Sacramento,

2348
02:30:43.799 --> 02:30:54.200
Yeah, yeah, victory glamorous Sacramento, San Francisco. Where sure there are

2349
02:30:54.239 --> 02:30:56.600
others, there are others. Alright, money on the table, gentlemen.

2350
02:30:56.840 --> 02:31:01.200
How many biowares are there still this
time next year? Year? Oh?

2351
02:31:01.879 --> 02:31:07.040
Yeah, yeah, that's the direction
you win in as opposed to how many

2352
02:31:07.120 --> 02:31:09.840
more BioWare No, no, no, no, how many? Bower is

2353
02:31:09.879 --> 02:31:20.520
not shipping until twenty thirteen. I
mean they're not making has been secured.

2354
02:31:24.159 --> 02:31:26.680
Yeah, I feel like this is
the moment, and it's it's it's not

2355
02:31:26.840 --> 02:31:30.680
that it's necessarily a new thing,
but I feel like this is finally the

2356
02:31:30.799 --> 02:31:35.399
moment where the BioWare name has completely
transitioned out of a name you can believe

2357
02:31:35.440 --> 02:31:37.360
in to a name that EA is
going to put on games they want you

2358
02:31:37.440 --> 02:31:43.840
to believe in right move of games
they might or they're worried that you might

2359
02:31:43.920 --> 02:31:48.280
otherwise not. Yeah, because I
feel like the things they've done up to

2360
02:31:48.319 --> 02:31:52.200
this point have made some sort of
sense in terms of expanding that name well,

2361
02:31:52.280 --> 02:31:56.360
and you're always I can see Greg
and Ray kind of being associated with

2362
02:31:56.600 --> 02:32:00.719
this project, and like the way
I think that's like, you know that

2363
02:32:00.799 --> 02:32:03.959
the games the Mythic makes are not
that dissimilar through the games the byware,

2364
02:32:03.200 --> 02:32:07.360
and it makes sense from a business
perspective to put all your MMOs under one

2365
02:32:07.479 --> 02:32:11.879
roof uh, from a you know, just a straight up organizational standpoint.

2366
02:32:11.959 --> 02:32:13.559
So it's like you take the you
know, mythics out there doing Dark Age

2367
02:32:13.559 --> 02:32:16.920
of Camelot, Warhammer and and all
that sort of stuff, like, yeah,

2368
02:32:16.920 --> 02:32:18.920
okay, it makes sense for them
to kind of report up through the

2369
02:32:20.000 --> 02:32:26.239
same people that the Old Republic people
are reporting up through so sure, right,

2370
02:32:26.399 --> 02:32:28.959
sure, even even the Facebook stuff
they're based on Buyowaur properties, so

2371
02:32:30.079 --> 02:32:35.200
you it would make sense for that
to the people that made the Drag Facebook

2372
02:32:35.200 --> 02:32:37.600
game, like sure, sure,
you know it's so I mean, you're

2373
02:32:37.600 --> 02:32:41.680
starting to stretch it, but you're
but you can there's a tie to it.

2374
02:32:41.760 --> 02:32:45.399
But then it's like, and the
way that this got build and I

2375
02:32:45.440 --> 02:32:48.200
don't know if this is on the
spike side of trying to make this seem

2376
02:32:48.239 --> 02:32:52.040
like a bigger deal to get people
to watch, but saying like here's a

2377
02:32:52.079 --> 02:32:58.159
new game from Buyerware sucks the new
Buyware ip that screenshot or artwork that came

2378
02:32:58.159 --> 02:33:01.879
out through Game and Former first,
but everyone took to be all they're making

2379
02:33:01.959 --> 02:33:07.799
some Borderland's rage Fall sort of game
like that did not imply or even hint

2380
02:33:07.079 --> 02:33:11.760
vaguely at what we ended up getting. It just involved the tank yeah,

2381
02:33:11.959 --> 02:33:15.559
and a and a unit yeah,
which I kind of suspected the times that

2382
02:33:15.639 --> 02:33:16.840
it was just going to be a
cut that that was just a cut scene

2383
02:33:16.879 --> 02:33:22.719
and not necessarily but I had not
made the leap until until the rumors started

2384
02:33:22.760 --> 02:33:24.159
breaking that like that's the command of
Conker game. And I was like oh

2385
02:33:26.559 --> 02:33:30.920
oh, because they had already announced
that Victory Games was a studio and there

2386
02:33:30.959 --> 02:33:33.719
they had already announced that they were
making a new Command of Conquered Yeah PC

2387
02:33:33.840 --> 02:33:39.959
exclusive with the John Vans can Canagan
the old the x might Magic to the

2388
02:33:41.040 --> 02:33:45.680
new World Computing guys heading that up. So for it to all of a

2389
02:33:45.719 --> 02:33:48.200
sudden be like, now here's a
new game from BioWare that we already kind

2390
02:33:48.200 --> 02:33:52.079
of told you about. But hey, uh like that this is Spike TV,

2391
02:33:52.200 --> 02:33:56.319
so we're gonna say the name that
matters and also whatever, like yes,

2392
02:33:56.399 --> 02:33:58.680
but I'm like, you know,
EA made that trailer and it just

2393
02:33:58.760 --> 02:34:01.479
says BioWare upfront it. You know, it's same by Victory is the same

2394
02:34:01.520 --> 02:34:07.360
Victory Games. They very much want
you to think this is the new I'm

2395
02:34:07.360 --> 02:34:09.120
saying that's an EA decision, that's
not a Spike decision. Also, it's

2396
02:34:09.159 --> 02:34:13.719
a sequel to the last C and
C game that the entire fan base arguably

2397
02:34:13.799 --> 02:34:16.440
universally rallied around, like general's you
know, a pretty popular games. But

2398
02:34:16.680 --> 02:34:20.440
that's the thing that stuff since then
wasn't wasn't well received. Yeah, but

2399
02:34:20.600 --> 02:34:24.719
like, but where are the guys
to bring back C and C after four

2400
02:34:26.719 --> 02:34:28.319
after which I figured it was gonna
be a full on reboot. And there

2401
02:34:28.319 --> 02:34:33.639
were there were some some trademarks and
stuff registered that made it sound like that

2402
02:34:33.719 --> 02:34:35.680
there was like it was Command of
Cocker or Annihilation or something that started with

2403
02:34:35.719 --> 02:34:39.520
a letter A. I forget what
a lot? If you want to play

2404
02:34:39.520 --> 02:34:41.559
on people's nostalgia, yeah, like
if you want to play on nostalgia,

2405
02:34:41.879 --> 02:34:46.520
if you want paying call it,
if you can do that, or you

2406
02:34:46.600 --> 02:34:48.840
can you can resurrect this name.
I just wonder if that other that other

2407
02:34:48.959 --> 02:34:52.479
name that's floating around and just ends
up being a Facebook game or something like

2408
02:34:52.559 --> 02:34:56.159
that, Like who does I think
it's it's really weird that they didn't if

2409
02:34:56.200 --> 02:34:58.840
we're gonna go to the extent to
put the buy our name on it somehow

2410
02:34:58.920 --> 02:35:01.319
like raying Regg didn't introduce use it
or like try to contextualize it's like here's

2411
02:35:01.399 --> 02:35:05.200
what, here's why, because this
is the first question that comes going forward,

2412
02:35:05.280 --> 02:35:07.319
is like the first thing that anyone
has to sit down and talk to

2413
02:35:07.360 --> 02:35:13.000
either of those guys is why.
And like I think I think they're doing.

2414
02:35:13.920 --> 02:35:15.799
I mean, we already all kind
of think it's the brands hanging down

2415
02:35:15.840 --> 02:35:18.959
a weird path. Like they're doing
themselves a disservice what to not be upfront

2416
02:35:18.000 --> 02:35:22.600
contextualizing this is why this makes sense
for buyoware, and this is yeah,

2417
02:35:24.000 --> 02:35:26.840
this is how we're having our eyeball
on this and we're influencing this game under

2418
02:35:28.120 --> 02:35:30.840
you know what you consider and by
aware princess and have them yes exactly,

2419
02:35:30.879 --> 02:35:33.120
I have them come out and reiterate
what exactly are the buyoware principles at this

2420
02:35:33.200 --> 02:35:35.799
point, how this is how this
applies to the trees like that is that

2421
02:35:35.959 --> 02:35:41.760
that's the only thing left right?
Does that? Yeah? It's it's it

2422
02:35:41.840 --> 02:35:46.319
comes across as a very corporate decision, and that, you know, given

2423
02:35:46.360 --> 02:35:48.760
what's happened to the mass like franchise. I look at I look at doctor

2424
02:35:48.799 --> 02:35:52.840
Greg's launch beard and his his tattoo
and his pull up sleeve, and I

2425
02:35:52.920 --> 02:35:56.559
go, that's not a guy that
is out there and making corporate decisions.

2426
02:35:56.680 --> 02:36:01.000
That's a guy that's out there and
making beard decisions and beard decisions. Those

2427
02:36:01.040 --> 02:36:07.000
are those are both true? Yeah
and me. But they've all they've all

2428
02:36:07.079 --> 02:36:11.280
moved around within the EA now right, Yeah, there's still high level they're

2429
02:36:11.280 --> 02:36:15.079
like in like you know, like
Miamoto as positions of like overseeing so much.

2430
02:36:15.280 --> 02:36:18.440
But Greg seems really entrenched with the
older public team, like he's been

2431
02:36:18.520 --> 02:36:22.600
down there a lot, like he
by all my understandings of its like pretty

2432
02:36:22.680 --> 02:36:28.079
much living there, very much hands
on with you know, the production of

2433
02:36:28.120 --> 02:36:31.840
this game. I don't know how
much you know, nitty gritty but involved,

2434
02:36:31.040 --> 02:36:33.959
not not just a checklist, Yeah
exactly. They you know, neither

2435
02:36:35.040 --> 02:36:37.159
of those guys seem like they are
just suits sitting there going like, I

2436
02:36:37.200 --> 02:36:41.719
don't know, man, we sold
it. Now we're just taking honorary positions

2437
02:36:41.879 --> 02:36:45.319
and drinking beer and stale boat.
But it's it's weird. It's just you

2438
02:36:45.399 --> 02:36:48.079
feel like the stakes on BioWare just
get higher and higher and higher, Like

2439
02:36:48.280 --> 02:36:50.360
every time you look back at it, it's like, oh, now they're

2440
02:36:50.360 --> 02:36:54.000
doing the cran of cockey game and
they have this number of people under their

2441
02:36:54.000 --> 02:36:58.440
perfect and they're doing this and it's
it's it's a weird, like some kind

2442
02:36:58.440 --> 02:37:01.040
of dark. It almost seems like
they're getting they're like getting set up to

2443
02:37:01.120 --> 02:37:03.959
be framed. At some point.
Yeah, at some point they go bust.

2444
02:37:03.319 --> 02:37:09.440
High stakes. I actually, you
know, we spend five hundred fifty

2445
02:37:09.440 --> 02:37:13.079
million dollars these elevation partners picking them
up. But yeah, like you're you're

2446
02:37:13.159 --> 02:37:16.600
kind of offering buyer. I recuse
myself from those discussions to say our good

2447
02:37:16.639 --> 02:37:22.280
buddy, John rick Atello, Like
do you guys elevation partners up until the

2448
02:37:22.319 --> 02:37:24.840
moment where he was it's just weird. It's like, yeah, it's like

2449
02:37:24.920 --> 02:37:28.360
they keep offering them, like you
guys want to make one another studio or

2450
02:37:28.399 --> 02:37:30.600
thinking about doing a Commander? Do
you want it? Yeah? Why not?

2451
02:37:30.680 --> 02:37:31.680
Why wouldn't we want it? I
don't know, why wouldn't you want

2452
02:37:31.680 --> 02:37:35.360
it? You should take it?
Or instead? It's almost like, hey,

2453
02:37:35.440 --> 02:37:37.559
we got these guys that are working
on this Command of Conquer game,

2454
02:37:37.559 --> 02:37:39.040
and we don't know who they should
report to. We were thinking maybe you

2455
02:37:39.360 --> 02:37:43.520
sure, yeah, sure, we'll
take them. Their lives are making games,

2456
02:37:43.719 --> 02:37:46.920
you know, like if you're the
doctors, it's like who else are

2457
02:37:46.959 --> 02:37:50.840
we gonna give these poor bastards too? Yeah? Like like way what he

2458
02:37:50.159 --> 02:37:54.479
is organized some kind of sense.
But with that game already existing prior to

2459
02:37:54.600 --> 02:38:01.120
this announcement, and this game already
being effectively announced, pre order now and

2460
02:38:01.280 --> 02:38:05.239
also you can pre order it now, and even though it's not until twenty

2461
02:38:05.280 --> 02:38:09.680
thirteen. Good it says that.
It says the trailer Now twenty three go

2462
02:38:09.760 --> 02:38:13.639
into Origin. You can preorder copy
general get twenty thirteen pre orders. I

2463
02:38:13.680 --> 02:38:16.799
guess that is what are the pre
order bonus quarter or fourth quarter in the

2464
02:38:16.879 --> 02:38:20.319
last year, did they talk about
preorders that, Well, it's twenty thirteen.

2465
02:38:20.360 --> 02:38:28.120
So you get your acid rain proof
jacket, your cool tank skins we

2466
02:38:28.200 --> 02:38:31.479
get. You get fresh cyber implants
to go in your head. That will

2467
02:38:31.559 --> 02:38:35.079
let you get the latest Command of
conquer news directly from EA net. You

2468
02:38:35.159 --> 02:38:37.159
only get the FMV if you pre
order. Yeah, will it have FMV

2469
02:38:37.360 --> 02:38:41.639
Probably, Like that's the thing.
If it's a key points Rick Flair will

2470
02:38:41.639 --> 02:38:46.079
pause and a wheel will pop up
that would use what Rick Flair says.

2471
02:38:46.120 --> 02:38:50.200
That would be great. I will
pick whoo whoo or whoo. I will

2472
02:38:50.280 --> 02:38:54.319
pick kick Rick Flair out of this
tank. Let's pull the right triggers.

2473
02:38:54.399 --> 02:38:58.479
Play out. Would just be ready
game constantly. I just you know that

2474
02:38:58.559 --> 02:39:03.399
announced like peel back all the BioWare
weirdness. That's not the Command of Conqueror.

2475
02:39:03.399 --> 02:39:07.600
I give a shit about generals general, I really don't care about generals.

2476
02:39:07.680 --> 02:39:11.280
It kind of got away from the
cane bits that I care about But

2477
02:39:11.719 --> 02:39:16.200
at the same time, I'm willing
to listen to a future of Command of

2478
02:39:16.239 --> 02:39:18.440
Conqueror that does not involve Cane,
that does not involve Joe. I guess

2479
02:39:18.440 --> 02:39:24.000
I'm just out to the point they've
they if I can't be drawn in by

2480
02:39:24.399 --> 02:39:28.600
StarCraft two, the world's biggest RTS, like let like, I guess I

2481
02:39:28.760 --> 02:39:31.559
kind of feel like lesser games in
the genre don't have much to give me

2482
02:39:31.680 --> 02:39:35.600
either, like it. Yeah,
the whole of the genre has a lot

2483
02:39:35.639 --> 02:39:39.440
to prove to me at this point
too. Yeah, I mean they could

2484
02:39:39.440 --> 02:39:41.600
be totally flipping it on said for
all we know. Yeah, I kind

2485
02:39:41.639 --> 02:39:43.879
of like the story set up to
some extent. I mean, you know,

2486
02:39:43.920 --> 02:39:46.719
it's pretty thin what's out there so
far. But it's just like all

2487
02:39:46.719 --> 02:39:50.360
the world leaders are at some peace
conference and then they all get blown up

2488
02:39:50.399 --> 02:39:56.280
by terrorists and only the generals remain. That's generals too. That's pretty good.

2489
02:39:56.319 --> 02:39:58.399
That's pretty good. Yeah, it's
like that game. So it's just

2490
02:39:58.639 --> 02:40:05.079
oh yeah, yeah, just just
the exploded yeah, left, Well we're

2491
02:40:05.120 --> 02:40:07.680
gonna fight and stuff. Well,
we're gonna blow up these guys that are

2492
02:40:07.760 --> 02:40:11.120
driving these technicals, all right,
great, yeah, cool? Done?

2493
02:40:11.360 --> 02:40:15.559
If it doesn't have technicals in it, You're out. It was a weird

2494
02:40:15.959 --> 02:40:18.719
teaser even for what it was.
We're like the big review was like,

2495
02:40:18.760 --> 02:40:22.559
oh, it's you know, that
distinctive aircraft for Amana COCKR And I was

2496
02:40:22.600 --> 02:40:26.120
like, Okay, I don't think
I don't think you have made that traumatic

2497
02:40:26.280 --> 02:40:28.079
enough. Nope, that thing also
was not that distinct Yeah, yeah,

2498
02:40:28.200 --> 02:40:33.360
that that that design appears everywhere,
the spray or whatever design Like there's one

2499
02:40:33.360 --> 02:40:43.520
of those. Pretty at one point
it was distinctive. Oh yeah, stuff

2500
02:40:43.520 --> 02:40:46.440
like that, And it's been around
when arts games were a bigger deal and

2501
02:40:46.799 --> 02:40:52.799
that was sure, but the ed
Yeah, I just wonder if if it

2502
02:40:52.079 --> 02:40:56.319
if it becomes this full on chase
for esports money. Like I was,

2503
02:40:56.399 --> 02:40:58.159
I was trying to go down that
star road, try to make that appeal

2504
02:40:58.399 --> 02:41:03.760
where that where that falls next to
the product cycle of because you know,

2505
02:41:03.879 --> 02:41:07.639
the next dessert thing will probably be
out first half next year, if I

2506
02:41:07.840 --> 02:41:11.399
guess, maybe the third one could
be end of twenty thirteen. After that

2507
02:41:11.520 --> 02:41:15.440
eighteen months later, Like I don't
know if like, are they gonna come

2508
02:41:15.440 --> 02:41:18.120
down, are they gonna try to
like get you know, out ahead of

2509
02:41:18.239 --> 02:41:22.120
the tail right or do they try
to get out. I mean, is

2510
02:41:22.159 --> 02:41:24.280
it something that even compares to StarCraft
or is it something Do they end up

2511
02:41:24.280 --> 02:41:26.280
going the other direction with it,
kind of making it more casual? Do

2512
02:41:26.280 --> 02:41:30.879
they make it more story focused and
actually embrace some of the things you think

2513
02:41:30.879 --> 02:41:33.319
about when you think about BioWare.
Maybe, but I mean because I mean,

2514
02:41:33.559 --> 02:41:37.719
you know, they need a new
they need something new, and because

2515
02:41:37.799 --> 02:41:43.200
they kept banging their heads against making
rts is and the world was not necessarily

2516
02:41:43.280 --> 02:41:48.760
interested. It's pretty good. Can't
campaign based arts like a story based anything

2517
02:41:48.799 --> 02:41:50.680
else. Like you go through it
and you've seen it, and then you

2518
02:41:50.959 --> 02:41:52.959
need another one, you know,
and then you get back into the same

2519
02:41:52.000 --> 02:41:54.680
thing of them having like crank or
those out of every year or eighten months

2520
02:41:54.760 --> 02:42:00.120
or whatever. It's strange to call
what is is sort of a reboot man

2521
02:42:00.200 --> 02:42:03.319
and conquer generals too, because I
think that already makes a shitload of people

2522
02:42:03.399 --> 02:42:07.559
too. Now, because it's like, I don't generals generals too. I

2523
02:42:07.600 --> 02:42:09.559
don't know that, right, No, I don't. But yeah, if

2524
02:42:09.559 --> 02:42:13.840
I didn't give a shit about the
last generals, I think it's why a

2525
02:42:13.879 --> 02:42:16.159
lot of people did, though,
And you know they're trying to staggle those

2526
02:42:16.200 --> 02:42:18.399
if they could. They could just
call it something else and then be like,

2527
02:42:18.479 --> 02:42:20.680
hey, guys, this is basically
Generals too, Like I think Generals

2528
02:42:20.760 --> 02:42:24.520
two already just kind of makes a
bunch of people go like never never mind

2529
02:42:24.600 --> 02:42:28.840
that the guy who ran Generals went
on to make StarCraft two essentially Like,

2530
02:42:31.639 --> 02:42:35.920
Yeah, Uh, Alan Wake American
Nightmare? Uh? Is the new Alan

2531
02:42:35.959 --> 02:42:41.920
Wake game? Really next year?
Now officially announced as an Xbox libricade title.

2532
02:42:41.600 --> 02:42:45.399
Uh, it looks like Alan looks
like some Alan Wake. I'm going

2533
02:42:45.440 --> 02:42:48.319
to see it this week. Cool
tiy what's up? Yeah, I don't

2534
02:42:48.319 --> 02:42:52.440
know. The trail looks all right. Yeah, it was not clear on

2535
02:42:52.520 --> 02:42:56.920
the setting there America. But I
never I never finished that last De'll see

2536
02:42:56.920 --> 02:43:00.600
you, so I don't know what
the state of you know, finish it.

2537
02:43:00.680 --> 02:43:03.600
I'm not sure what the fuck is
going on, But it does seem

2538
02:43:03.680 --> 02:43:05.079
like he is just running around the
country. Yeah, at the end of

2539
02:43:05.079 --> 02:43:09.760
the writer it's more it's like the
end of Alan Wake makes it sound like

2540
02:43:09.079 --> 02:43:13.479
there are other places that are similar
to this, and the writer makes that

2541
02:43:13.680 --> 02:43:16.760
a little clearer. This this could
be like the Further Adventures of Allan Wake

2542
02:43:16.879 --> 02:43:22.520
kind of yeah, like he like
in the scrolling text or like the setup

2543
02:43:22.559 --> 02:43:24.840
text makes it sound like the way
they'll get you to different locations is that

2544
02:43:24.959 --> 02:43:28.360
like this hot spot of like light
and dark. There are a lot of

2545
02:43:28.399 --> 02:43:33.000
these, and that will take him
to what's like the X Files. I

2546
02:43:33.040 --> 02:43:37.559
think it's gonna be similar Incredible Hulk. Yeah, he'll go to a new

2547
02:43:37.559 --> 02:43:39.639
place and there will be new adventures
there. I see actual FMV video of

2548
02:43:39.680 --> 02:43:43.840
a man and that trailer. Yes, that's Scratch. That's the alter that's

2549
02:43:43.840 --> 02:43:48.799
the evil ego of of Alan Wake. I will say in that trailer they

2550
02:43:48.120 --> 02:43:50.760
I like that they show some of
that stuff because I want some FMV out

2551
02:43:50.799 --> 02:43:54.440
of out of remedy US. Did
they like totally spell out what the plot

2552
02:43:54.559 --> 02:43:58.239
is? And I'm just like,
man, that sounds so like the way

2553
02:43:58.280 --> 02:44:01.319
you talk about mister Scratch, who
embodies like his alter ego that is like

2554
02:44:01.440 --> 02:44:05.120
capturing the minds of other people.
I was like, don't say this plot

2555
02:44:05.159 --> 02:44:09.399
out loud, and it sounds really
dumb stuff. It's fine, Well it's

2556
02:44:09.840 --> 02:44:11.879
my energizer. Just well, I'll
tell you this much like all of the

2557
02:44:13.120 --> 02:44:16.239
like Alan Wake in game recaps,
that motherfucker talks fast. He has to

2558
02:44:16.399 --> 02:44:20.040
explain so much shit in so little
time. There's like, all right,

2559
02:44:20.040 --> 02:44:22.399
I got to let this stuff out
really quickly. Never mind that it sounds

2560
02:44:22.559 --> 02:44:26.120
really fucking dumb, just bear with
me. Also like a TV cut one,

2561
02:44:26.159 --> 02:44:31.879
so like it's already hyper compressed to
to be a smaller. But but

2562
02:44:33.600 --> 02:44:35.920
yeah, I like that that game
enough to want to you know what,

2563
02:44:37.000 --> 02:44:39.719
I'm happy to get out of like
the very specific uh you know, kind

2564
02:44:39.719 --> 02:44:45.159
of Twin Peaks he uh, you
know, Northwestern Mountain vibe. I'll be

2565
02:44:45.200 --> 02:44:48.399
curious to see how, you know, how they kind of explore the landscapes

2566
02:44:48.440 --> 02:44:50.840
of different areas. So let me
in the comparison. I don't I don't

2567
02:44:50.840 --> 02:44:52.440
know if it's remedy or not.
But someone they knew something about the game

2568
02:44:52.479 --> 02:44:58.319
was that if if Alan Wake was
Twin Peaks, then uh, Alan Wake

2569
02:44:58.360 --> 02:45:01.799
American Nightmare is from Dustl edn Okay. So more of a road buddy,

2570
02:45:03.600 --> 02:45:07.000
there's hope it doesn't it's for pussy
lovers. It's it's it's a little more

2571
02:45:09.760 --> 02:45:15.639
I mean, I there seems to
be more grindhouse Tarantino in the in the

2572
02:45:15.719 --> 02:45:18.559
kind of the tone and the vibe. Yeah, so let's see. Yeah,

2573
02:45:18.559 --> 02:45:20.840
I'm with you. I hope there's
about a third of the combat because

2574
02:45:20.840 --> 02:45:24.520
I enjoy the combat. Show did
you show a fair amount of combat?

2575
02:45:24.840 --> 02:45:26.760
Finish? It's TV trailers, I
know, I know, but they still

2576
02:45:26.760 --> 02:45:30.639
show a fair amounts. Like I
wanted more Alan Wake, but more Alan

2577
02:45:30.680 --> 02:45:33.360
Wake is not necessarily what I want. You're hoping it would change Alan Wake

2578
02:45:33.520 --> 02:45:39.920
some Let's lean into the storytelling and
the shrom hardcore connect controls. Yeah,

2579
02:45:39.079 --> 02:45:43.840
that's what you want. Some more
of these thermisis around? Many collectible types

2580
02:45:43.879 --> 02:45:48.280
can we come up with? They
only had like eight before? Yeah,

2581
02:45:50.159 --> 02:45:54.079
oh this thermisis damn those did you
get all thosemis? Fuck? No,

2582
02:45:54.239 --> 02:45:58.000
they really That thermosis really hurt thing. That was the worst part of that

2583
02:45:58.079 --> 02:46:01.520
game. Would you want about the
combat? But like heading off into the

2584
02:46:01.520 --> 02:46:05.159
woods, people people like me and
you who can't help but stop and look

2585
02:46:05.200 --> 02:46:09.120
around when we know there are things
to find, so enjoy. It breaks

2586
02:46:09.159 --> 02:46:11.360
the momentum. And that's what I
did. Was just very early on,

2587
02:46:11.360 --> 02:46:13.959
I was like, Okay, it's
clearly this is bullshit, so I'm just

2588
02:46:13.159 --> 02:46:16.200
I'm not going to conduct any of
them. Well, the worst part is

2589
02:46:16.280 --> 02:46:18.959
that, like the pages actually added
to the narrative, Like you right,

2590
02:46:18.280 --> 02:46:24.920
it was crucial to enjoying the storyline
to find those stuff. Yeah, it

2591
02:46:24.000 --> 02:46:28.520
just more night Falls, I said
before I say it again, give me,

2592
02:46:28.719 --> 02:46:31.120
give me more night night Springs,
Night Springs, thank you. That

2593
02:46:31.239 --> 02:46:33.840
was the rumored name for this.
Yeah, I kind of wish it was

2594
02:46:33.959 --> 02:46:37.440
like that, the name and that
first teaser screenshot they they brought it they

2595
02:46:37.479 --> 02:46:41.760
put out before the awards, like
he was standing in front of a a

2596
02:46:41.360 --> 02:46:48.040
a night Spring, so probably gets
I like the name. Yeah, that

2597
02:46:48.159 --> 02:46:50.479
was good, but I guess this
means it'll probably be covering more ground than

2598
02:46:50.520 --> 02:46:54.879
that, so MOREL and Wake in
their future. Patrick will come back and

2599
02:46:54.000 --> 02:46:58.760
talk to us about that. Yeah. Awards were given out also at the

2600
02:46:58.799 --> 02:47:05.559
Spike TV BG. Yeah, yeah, that's all. That's interesting. That's

2601
02:47:05.600 --> 02:47:11.280
it. Wait, you're forgetting one, dude. What's up again the Revengeance?

2602
02:47:13.680 --> 02:47:16.959
Oh well, I was going off
of new game announcements, not third

2603
02:47:16.360 --> 02:47:22.600
announcements. Totally. There's never been
a game called Metal Gear Rising Revengeance until

2604
02:47:22.120 --> 02:47:28.719
just the other day. So until
no one's lying, no one's saying that

2605
02:47:28.799 --> 02:47:33.840
they didn't. There's no lies happening
here. So this isn't just a joke.

2606
02:47:33.040 --> 02:47:35.680
So what's the form like, is
that into revengeance. Is that actually

2607
02:47:35.719 --> 02:47:39.239
part of the name? So how's
it formed? It? Is it?

2608
02:47:39.399 --> 02:47:43.440
How is it? You're rising all
one? Where are all one? Statement?

2609
02:47:45.440 --> 02:47:48.120
Is the brand? Got it?
Meg Rising colin revengeance? Revengeance?

2610
02:47:48.200 --> 02:47:52.399
They dropped the Solid according to Kajima, because it doesn't involve solid snake,

2611
02:47:52.680 --> 02:47:58.479
and but it's set after MGS four, but it doesn't do the metal before

2612
02:47:58.520 --> 02:48:01.200
it was supposed to be some kind
of prequel. It was in between she

2613
02:48:01.319 --> 02:48:03.600
wasn't it was in between three and
four? Was it before? It was

2614
02:48:03.639 --> 02:48:05.479
in between three and four? And
then the game got canceled. The thing

2615
02:48:05.600 --> 02:48:09.360
that hasn't changed is that it still
looks like a two bit character action game

2616
02:48:09.440 --> 02:48:16.959
starring riding watermelons getting cut dudes watermelons. You remember, you remember the thing

2617
02:48:18.040 --> 02:48:20.479
I said about being embarrassed that people
would watch the vgas and think that that

2618
02:48:20.600 --> 02:48:24.479
was what I was into. Yeah, I feel the same way about him.

2619
02:48:24.600 --> 02:48:28.639
Like cutting a guy into thirty seven
discreet pieces that fly in different directions,

2620
02:48:30.040 --> 02:48:33.520
it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. The
building, it's ridiculous. At the

2621
02:48:33.559 --> 02:48:35.840
same time, it's just like,
oh, you cut that guy in half,

2622
02:48:35.879 --> 02:48:39.239
We'll guess what you can cut this
guy into thirty sevenths. I mean,

2623
02:48:39.600 --> 02:48:45.159
like that trailers tongue in cheek,
but Metal Gear Rising has been just

2624
02:48:45.239 --> 02:48:48.440
trying to find any kind of like
identity or anything at all. But like

2625
02:48:48.559 --> 02:48:52.440
it's no, no, no,
you're getting confused with Metal Gear Solid Sorry,

2626
02:48:52.719 --> 02:48:56.280
which is a completely different game that
does not exist. I mean it's

2627
02:48:56.319 --> 02:48:58.000
it's it's vaguely amusing the first time
you see it, but the five hundredth

2628
02:48:58.120 --> 02:49:03.040
time you do it in the last
level the game like that. Yeah,

2629
02:49:03.079 --> 02:49:05.600
I don't know. I think my
main problem with it was how stilted a

2630
02:49:05.680 --> 02:49:11.000
lot of the acts very start stopping. Yeah, it just seemed like like

2631
02:49:11.120 --> 02:49:16.200
all right, like square up on
the dude to start chopping. Now it's

2632
02:49:16.239 --> 02:49:18.879
time to start cutting the dude,
and then we'll get into the cutting mode.

2633
02:49:20.319 --> 02:49:22.719
You chop the ship out of that
guy. Yeah, I don't know.

2634
02:49:22.799 --> 02:49:24.799
That part looked good. It looked
like he should have like taken the

2635
02:49:26.120 --> 02:49:28.920
cyborg part off and it would just
be Travis touchdowns. That's like what By

2636
02:49:28.959 --> 02:49:31.760
the end of that trailer, I
was like or or the chick from Bayonet

2637
02:49:31.879 --> 02:49:35.719
or Bayonetta. I will say this. He picks up a metal gear and

2638
02:49:35.799 --> 02:49:41.000
throws it from the air and running
running along like the side of it,

2639
02:49:41.079 --> 02:49:43.680
like on its arm. It was
all sorts of Bayonetta. Who was the

2640
02:49:43.760 --> 02:49:46.680
other cyborg dude? Was that vamp? I don't know here? Some other

2641
02:49:46.719 --> 02:49:50.079
guy? Yeah, there was another. It was just some other dude.

2642
02:49:50.200 --> 02:49:54.200
I don't know. I don't know
what Metal Gears Reproduction is doing the cut

2643
02:49:54.239 --> 02:50:00.719
scenes so that but this is but
this is a fake telespon them games joint,

2644
02:50:00.799 --> 02:50:03.319
right, Yeah, they're they're they're
doing the gameplay, but the the

2645
02:50:03.479 --> 02:50:09.040
writing, voice acting, like the
the only time in any goddamn press release

2646
02:50:09.079 --> 02:50:11.959
where it's gonna say, like the
writing, voice acting and cut scenes all

2647
02:50:13.000 --> 02:50:16.079
done by a different studio. But
yeah, Coaduma productionsself doing that. I'd

2648
02:50:16.200 --> 02:50:20.280
rather they just let Platinum do the
whole thing, because I've seen the cut

2649
02:50:20.319 --> 02:50:24.600
scenes that Platinum can put out,
and I'd rather watch those. I agree,

2650
02:50:24.719 --> 02:50:28.719
I'd rather I'd rather watch Bannetta two. Kamiya has nothing to do with

2651
02:50:28.799 --> 02:50:33.879
this game, like nothing, like
he went on Twitter very uh, very

2652
02:50:33.680 --> 02:50:37.000
like bluntly said, I have nothing
to do with this game. Do you

2653
02:50:37.040 --> 02:50:41.159
think it says something about like Metal
Gear in general, for like Coajuma Productions

2654
02:50:41.159 --> 02:50:43.440
to be like we don't even want
to do the game play anymore, even

2655
02:50:43.520 --> 02:50:52.120
we've been trying just failing. Can
Yeah, like there's there's I didn't listened

2656
02:50:52.120 --> 02:50:54.840
to the whole thing. But they're
like they said they can the project.

2657
02:50:54.879 --> 02:50:58.200
They couldn't find essentially a soul for
it, Like they couldn't find a game

2658
02:50:58.239 --> 02:51:01.840
play, like they had that watermelon
thing that's all they had. And so

2659
02:51:01.920 --> 02:51:03.360
they trying to build this game around
it, and they couldn't get anything together,

2660
02:51:03.399 --> 02:51:07.280
and so they just they canned it. And then I guess Kijima was

2661
02:51:07.319 --> 02:51:11.239
sitting around with uh Kamia and he
was like, well, let us pitch

2662
02:51:11.280 --> 02:51:13.799
you on an idea, and they
pitched him on an idea, and but

2663
02:51:13.879 --> 02:51:16.159
they were still like, but we
want to do the cuts. I love

2664
02:51:16.200 --> 02:51:18.639
doing the cuts. No, it's
it's Kim is a control freak, right,

2665
02:51:18.680 --> 02:51:22.440
I mean, like, so he's
got you know, he could potentially

2666
02:51:22.479 --> 02:51:24.639
make another metal gear, like he
has his fiction, so he's not gonna

2667
02:51:24.719 --> 02:51:30.840
let someone else that part, I
totally that part makes sense. And that's

2668
02:51:30.920 --> 02:51:33.280
that's the part. That's my favorite
part about what they do is the writing

2669
02:51:33.319 --> 02:51:35.959
and the cut scenes and all their
stuff. So well that's to me as

2670
02:51:37.040 --> 02:51:39.399
crazy as as you can because you're
not you don't even have to worry about

2671
02:51:39.440 --> 02:51:43.440
the gameplay. Some other dudes are
doing that, right, so go for

2672
02:51:43.559 --> 02:51:46.040
it. It just seems to epitomize
how I've kind of felt about Middle Gar

2673
02:51:46.399 --> 02:51:50.479
Medal Gears Solid four was great,
but it was like kind of the gameplay

2674
02:51:50.600 --> 02:51:52.879
was almost like, ah, just
give me to the next part where it

2675
02:51:52.879 --> 02:51:54.840
goes crazy again, Like, give
me the next set piece, the next

2676
02:51:54.920 --> 02:52:00.159
crazy bit. And this part does
look crazy for as kind of you know,

2677
02:52:00.239 --> 02:52:03.760
you're just kind of like sitting in
your seat tilting her head slowly watching

2678
02:52:03.840 --> 02:52:07.239
this trailer waiting for the other shooter
drop of like we're just kidding, and

2679
02:52:07.319 --> 02:52:11.760
it kind of never does. Uh, it does look crazy. That's why

2680
02:52:11.760 --> 02:52:13.760
I'm excited about it. I want
to play it, but I don't know

2681
02:52:13.799 --> 02:52:18.360
if I want to play that for
like eight hours? How about six?

2682
02:52:20.280 --> 02:52:22.159
Maybe six as long as you get
to cut the moon or something. But

2683
02:52:22.879 --> 02:52:28.559
well they canting metal gear without having
there be something even crazy, so unless

2684
02:52:28.559 --> 02:52:31.040
you get to cut the Earth and
half at some point, I think they

2685
02:52:31.040 --> 02:52:35.639
would save that sort of stuff for
a ban at a sequel. So they're

2686
02:52:35.680 --> 02:52:37.760
good stuff. Yeah, she already
I think she already did that. I

2687
02:52:37.799 --> 02:52:43.639
couldn't remember quite exactly. She may
have cut them right when you say that,

2688
02:52:43.680 --> 02:52:48.399
I pulled the guy out of the
giant and the things eyeball and then

2689
02:52:48.799 --> 02:52:52.760
rode the Yeah, there might have
been some earth slicing. She was like

2690
02:52:52.840 --> 02:52:56.719
riding through time at that point.
Like it was beyond fucking slicing up planets.

2691
02:52:56.799 --> 02:53:03.239
It was just way crazier than that. Revengeance. Revengeance? Do you

2692
02:53:03.280 --> 02:53:07.920
think it all supports cats faring?
No? Like, how many dumb words

2693
02:53:07.959 --> 02:53:11.920
can you come up with in a
year? They're setting records over there?

2694
02:53:11.159 --> 02:53:15.200
I don't know. Did you see
his appearance on the show? I did?

2695
02:53:16.360 --> 02:53:20.040
Did he make up words? Kind
of? What was cool GiMA doing

2696
02:53:20.120 --> 02:53:24.760
on the show? Oh, it's
it was explain explained the bit, explain

2697
02:53:24.799 --> 02:53:28.120
the bit funny, There is no
bit. It's it's it's that he does

2698
02:53:28.200 --> 02:53:33.719
not speak terrific English. That's true. That's to me a Mootei bit was

2699
02:53:33.760 --> 02:53:37.040
a little bit awkward to Yeah,
a little bit a little fanetic. He

2700
02:53:37.120 --> 02:53:39.760
was bombing his head during the Black
Keys performance. So did you see that

2701
02:53:39.799 --> 02:53:43.319
shot? It was the best five
seconds of programs. Super bearded Andrew Kelly

2702
02:53:43.399 --> 02:53:48.159
sitting at that table too, yeah, wow, super bearded bearded up.

2703
02:53:48.399 --> 02:53:52.280
Yeah, yeah, he's pretty heavily
bearded. Like I was watching with someone

2704
02:53:52.280 --> 02:53:58.360
and it was like Andrew Kelly backed
it up, but you wouldn't recognize him

2705
02:53:58.440 --> 02:54:03.559
so much so much, so what's
a Patrick? Maybe you can explain this

2706
02:54:03.639 --> 02:54:07.719
to me? What's up with Miyamoto
here? He doesn't make games anymore?

2707
02:54:07.920 --> 02:54:11.280
Or he only makes Facebook games now, Size works at someone and he's finishing

2708
02:54:11.319 --> 02:54:16.399
the last Guardian. Well someone has
to God damn it, no one else

2709
02:54:16.479 --> 02:54:20.479
is apparently working on that game,
so let him do it. Wired ran

2710
02:54:20.559 --> 02:54:26.280
a story, Kohler ran a story
saying that, but they originally extremely misleading

2711
02:54:26.319 --> 02:54:31.520
headline of I'm retiring. He is
not doing He It sounds like kind of

2712
02:54:31.559 --> 02:54:33.879
like what he's been saying for years
that he is looking to take on a

2713
02:54:33.000 --> 02:54:39.120
perhaps a smaller role, let's say, general manager role at Nintendo and work

2714
02:54:39.159 --> 02:54:41.079
on smaller, more personal projects.
He hasn't been a game director since Ocarine

2715
02:54:41.120 --> 02:54:45.280
of Time. He's over seen things
and had his hand in things, and

2716
02:54:45.959 --> 02:54:48.000
it's mostly you know, involved in
like we creation and things like that.

2717
02:54:48.120 --> 02:54:52.559
But she's like, it's like his
role has been like kind of behind the

2718
02:54:52.600 --> 02:54:56.239
scenes, big picture stuff. But
then also whenever they need a face man

2719
02:54:56.520 --> 02:54:58.719
for anything, Yeah, yeah he's
there. He's their sales. He can

2720
02:54:58.760 --> 02:55:03.840
be the like I helped create this, so it will be magical. Yeah,

2721
02:55:03.959 --> 02:55:07.280
Like imagine if he concentrated all of
them magic into one thing. Yeah,

2722
02:55:07.639 --> 02:55:13.440
you know we music. Yeah I
doubt even that. Yeah, I

2723
02:55:13.479 --> 02:55:16.360
mean he's very responsible for things like
the Wee mote and and things like that.

2724
02:55:16.520 --> 02:55:18.159
Like he he's but he's part of
that big picture. But yeah,

2725
02:55:18.200 --> 02:55:22.120
so Nintenno stock price because of that
original headline of retiring dropped two percent.

2726
02:55:22.840 --> 02:55:26.479
Ninteno stock price has not been doing
that well this year, so they put

2727
02:55:26.680 --> 02:55:31.239
immediately put me a moto on like
an interviewing tour with like the mass media,

2728
02:55:31.319 --> 02:55:35.120
which was like MSNBC, the the
Wall Street Journal. Uh. And

2729
02:55:35.360 --> 02:55:37.479
in each of those ones, it
was like, I just want to make

2730
02:55:37.559 --> 02:55:43.360
clear I am not retiring. I
just you know, I want to start

2731
02:55:43.440 --> 02:55:46.600
training younger staffs, working with smaller
teams and making more personal projects. But

2732
02:55:46.680 --> 02:55:50.399
I'm so tired. God damn it. I wish they would let me retire.

2733
02:55:52.040 --> 02:55:56.319
He's always he's almost sixty fifty nine, I think he's Yeah, but

2734
02:55:58.600 --> 02:56:01.399
he's got another ten years in him
at least, But it's the time when

2735
02:56:01.479 --> 02:56:05.479
you start like grooming and actually figuring
out who the fuck your successors are,

2736
02:56:05.639 --> 02:56:09.040
Like yeah, like I mean he's
already like on Uma, has Zelda got

2737
02:56:09.079 --> 02:56:11.399
that under lock? Like he even
he has said that he doesn't want to

2738
02:56:11.440 --> 02:56:13.360
make se noyone wants nothing to do
with Zelda, even though he's stuck.

2739
02:56:13.440 --> 02:56:16.959
Dude, he must have played,
like maybe you go get a job in

2740
02:56:18.000 --> 02:56:20.799
Namcode working on tech and games.
They could probably use the health sneak.

2741
02:56:20.799 --> 02:56:26.680
How many times he must have played
that first two hours, so I called

2742
02:56:26.719 --> 02:56:30.040
bullshot in his development. He clearly
did not, or else someone would have

2743
02:56:30.040 --> 02:56:31.920
said, wait a minute, I'm
done. I'm done. The stakes way

2744
02:56:31.959 --> 02:56:35.799
too long to get go done?
How long? Whatever? They probably have

2745
02:56:35.840 --> 02:56:37.799
a bild of that game that you
can skip past all that ship. What

2746
02:56:37.959 --> 02:56:41.000
was time to sword in the original
legend of Zelda? Like twenty seconds?

2747
02:56:41.239 --> 02:56:46.559
Like twenty steps walking the cave the
next screen, fucking Octor Rock. I

2748
02:56:46.639 --> 02:56:48.600
was, I was, you know, I was literally thinking that. As

2749
02:56:48.639 --> 02:56:50.879
I was. I was, I
was looking at my playtimer and being like

2750
02:56:52.000 --> 02:56:54.120
probably it really says an hour forty
five minutes, and like I haven't gotten

2751
02:56:54.120 --> 02:56:58.479
any yet. And I was literally
thinking, like Fort Zelda, how long

2752
02:56:58.719 --> 02:57:01.719
like you fucking was the design of
that game? Walk forward, getting a

2753
02:57:01.799 --> 02:57:05.159
cave, get your short and going
on adventure. I find for myself just

2754
02:57:05.280 --> 02:57:09.600
a general trend like the longer it
takes to get from title screen to doing

2755
02:57:09.719 --> 02:57:11.719
the thing you do for most of
the game, the less I want to

2756
02:57:11.760 --> 02:57:15.520
play it just stop. Some things
are interesting, some games that have like

2757
02:57:15.760 --> 02:57:18.760
I'm gonna show you you before,
I'm gonna show you before you have your

2758
02:57:18.799 --> 02:57:20.840
bionic parts or something like that.
For like here's the set up your normal

2759
02:57:20.959 --> 02:57:24.040
dudes, You're gonna like do this
thing and then we're gonna completely give you

2760
02:57:24.079 --> 02:57:28.559
a new character model and all that
stuff, like in about twenty minutes.

2761
02:57:28.600 --> 02:57:31.399
It is meaningfully in service with the
storyline. Sure, but if it's like

2762
02:57:31.680 --> 02:57:35.040
like you said, if it's like
two hours of it was, it's rough.

2763
02:57:35.399 --> 02:57:37.879
I mean, maybe I'm blowing out
of proportion, but it just felt

2764
02:57:37.920 --> 02:57:41.239
like I know a lot of developers
hate like the XBLA TCR stuff about like

2765
02:57:41.360 --> 02:57:45.000
you have to be in the game
playing and like what is the sixty seconds

2766
02:57:45.120 --> 02:57:48.000
or something like that, But like
that, in some cases there's a benefit

2767
02:57:48.040 --> 02:57:50.719
of the smaller games and for older
games like the original Legend of Zelda,

2768
02:57:50.799 --> 02:57:54.120
like that's way more doable. But
now that we have layered I say we

2769
02:57:54.639 --> 02:57:58.319
now like they just damn game developers, I didn't do it, have layered

2770
02:57:58.440 --> 02:58:03.280
so many systems on top of games, Like those systems need to be explained

2771
02:58:03.280 --> 02:58:05.159
introducing them. Yeah, and now
that we don't have manuals anymore, like

2772
02:58:05.239 --> 02:58:07.760
you know, smooth, smoothly rolling
those things out over time is important.

2773
02:58:07.799 --> 02:58:11.319
But like like that Space two did
a fantastic job of you like you guy

2774
02:58:11.440 --> 02:58:16.479
around seconds, but it's like it
but it's this, it's this weird kind

2775
02:58:16.520 --> 02:58:20.200
of counterintuitive thing where the only reason
we need to keep piling more systems on

2776
02:58:20.280 --> 02:58:24.000
it because everyone played the last game, but we still build the new game

2777
02:58:24.079 --> 02:58:28.159
like nobody played the last game.
I think maybe just everything needs that option,

2778
02:58:28.319 --> 02:58:33.600
like like the Metal Gear PSP game
as where it says like you know,

2779
02:58:33.639 --> 02:58:37.239
which game did you play? Or
like MGS three had where it was

2780
02:58:37.319 --> 02:58:39.959
like did you play HIMGS two?
Yeah? Do you like? Do you

2781
02:58:41.079 --> 02:58:41.440
like that? Do you like this? What do you like? It?

2782
02:58:41.520 --> 02:58:45.079
Shouldn't just do it. I mean
they did roll out a lot of stories

2783
02:58:45.440 --> 02:58:46.680
or tried to roll out some starry
stuff. But they should have done It's

2784
02:58:46.680 --> 02:58:50.559
just put a fucking cat on a
hill with like something you have to slice

2785
02:58:50.600 --> 02:58:52.440
with the sword and be like,
go get the cat. And if you

2786
02:58:52.520 --> 02:58:56.200
get it and you do all the
things like I know how to z target

2787
02:58:56.239 --> 02:58:58.600
and know how to climb this wall, like great, here's the sword.

2788
02:58:58.680 --> 02:59:01.719
You can do that on your own. Jump off the skyworld, you're done.

2789
02:59:01.879 --> 02:59:03.000
Go crazy. If you can't,
then you got to kind of work

2790
02:59:03.040 --> 02:59:05.799
your way up to it. But
they should just put something there that's like,

2791
02:59:07.000 --> 02:59:09.719
you know what you're doing here,
go crazy. Guess what Delsa got

2792
02:59:09.799 --> 02:59:13.520
kidnapped? Go find her. You're
breaking you can you grab the rock out

2793
02:59:13.520 --> 02:59:16.600
of the dude's hand. Great,
let's go right, yeah, like you're

2794
02:59:16.600 --> 02:59:20.159
a master. Good job. I
like the idea of going through some kind

2795
02:59:20.159 --> 02:59:24.440
of like video game like psych profile. Yeah, take this, take this

2796
02:59:24.600 --> 02:59:28.920
roshock test. Okay, I know
what you should be getting here. Let's

2797
02:59:28.920 --> 02:59:33.719
picture look more to you like doom
or Toky makeing memorial. Okay, now

2798
02:59:33.799 --> 02:59:37.000
do this? Well what if I
mean you know like this it's just kicking

2799
02:59:37.840 --> 02:59:43.639
look down master chief thing totally and
all that data is there. I mean,

2800
02:59:43.719 --> 02:59:48.520
they could actually be piling on to
your achievement data or something like that

2801
02:59:48.600 --> 02:59:52.079
and saying like, we know you've
played this, this, You're more than

2802
02:59:52.159 --> 02:59:54.840
likely gonna know how to do these
things as a result of these games that

2803
02:59:54.959 --> 02:59:58.600
we know you've played. That's because
they're on your profile. I see you

2804
02:59:58.760 --> 03:00:03.959
like Castlevania, right, totally plug
and then you can just play and just

2805
03:00:05.040 --> 03:00:09.000
do that now that we have like
this, this this more ingrained sense of

2806
03:00:09.399 --> 03:00:11.959
like, you know, progress ownership
within a system where it's like, no,

2807
03:00:13.120 --> 03:00:16.680
these saves are on my profile,
Like it would be that much easier

2808
03:00:16.840 --> 03:00:20.319
to lock into that stuff and figure
out at least on the two three six,

2809
03:00:20.360 --> 03:00:22.280
And you know, they would obviously
need to give you the option to

2810
03:00:22.799 --> 03:00:24.159
break out of that stuff, because
what if someone else played that game on

2811
03:00:24.200 --> 03:00:28.000
your profile? Like it's you know, it's not it's not a perfect sure,

2812
03:00:28.040 --> 03:00:28.799
they're still what if, but I
wonder, yeah, I wonder if

2813
03:00:28.840 --> 03:00:33.079
there's some something to be gained or
something to be expedited as a result of

2814
03:00:33.280 --> 03:00:37.120
knowing of them being able to know
what you've played, if not assuming too

2815
03:00:37.200 --> 03:00:41.239
much about the player, at least
some kind of manual opt out. Yeah,

2816
03:00:41.360 --> 03:00:43.719
it would be nice, but you
know, but they try to make

2817
03:00:43.719 --> 03:00:45.520
those things so good, and when
they make them good, they're great.

2818
03:00:45.559 --> 03:00:46.799
You know, like like the early
parts of Death Space Too are pretty much

2819
03:00:46.799 --> 03:00:50.840
fine, and you know they they
help you get acclimated to the story and

2820
03:00:50.920 --> 03:00:54.280
and help you, you know,
like if you didn't, if you hadn't

2821
03:00:54.280 --> 03:00:56.559
played Dead Space one in a pretty
long time, like you probably need some

2822
03:00:56.639 --> 03:01:00.440
kind of refresher like, Okay,
here's what then do well, I mean

2823
03:01:00.920 --> 03:01:03.719
A controls like a lot of other
third person shooters. Yeah, like you

2824
03:01:03.840 --> 03:01:07.399
kind of know how to play it
on basic level, but like the opening

2825
03:01:07.399 --> 03:01:09.120
of that game is exciting, like
you were moving around within like a minute

2826
03:01:09.120 --> 03:01:11.799
of starting it, and over the
course of like the next twenty minutes,

2827
03:01:11.840 --> 03:01:15.159
like you get all the stuff.
It's like, all right, I got

2828
03:01:15.200 --> 03:01:18.280
my gun, No, I got
the teleknesia stuff. It's presented very like

2829
03:01:18.360 --> 03:01:22.120
actively, and you feel like you're
taking part in it instead of Z targeting

2830
03:01:22.159 --> 03:01:26.520
the guy and then Z targeting the
guy. Yeah. One more piece of

2831
03:01:26.559 --> 03:01:33.120
news here, in addition to Miamoto
still being a Nintendo new DLC for Bastion

2832
03:01:33.399 --> 03:01:37.319
forthcoming Stranger's Dream and it will be
free. It's out, I think,

2833
03:01:39.159 --> 03:01:43.040
yeah, so sweet out on everything. But three sixty three sixty when it

2834
03:01:43.079 --> 03:01:46.200
comes out, it will be a
dollar. Also on three sixties it will

2835
03:01:46.200 --> 03:01:50.719
come I thought the three sixty was
was a week later. So it's just

2836
03:01:50.840 --> 03:01:52.479
I mean, the big thing is
you have to pay for it, right,

2837
03:01:52.879 --> 03:01:56.479
and it's a dollar, and and
the sewer johny Games have said,

2838
03:01:56.559 --> 03:01:58.479
we made it as cheap as Microsoft
would let us. If we could give

2839
03:01:58.479 --> 03:02:01.920
it away to you on this system, we would, but they won't.

2840
03:02:01.000 --> 03:02:05.559
So what a bunch of shit.
Yeah, it's like those those policies are

2841
03:02:05.559 --> 03:02:11.600
beyond irritation, where the developer is
actively saying we are being prevented from providing

2842
03:02:11.600 --> 03:02:16.920
a service to someone because of these
imposed marketplace conditions that Microsoft wants to put

2843
03:02:16.959 --> 03:02:20.799
on their service. That made sense
five years ago when people weren't used to

2844
03:02:20.799 --> 03:02:22.840
paying for content, but made no
sense now when they were just putting an

2845
03:02:22.879 --> 03:02:26.840
artificial control over. I mean,
it's the marketplace, so I mean they're

2846
03:02:26.840 --> 03:02:31.559
allowed to and there's the problem of
their other being No, I mean it's

2847
03:02:33.879 --> 03:02:37.200
the problem is my Every developer I
talked to you is like they don't provide

2848
03:02:37.239 --> 03:02:39.799
with options and also there's no guideline
and how this stuff works it is on

2849
03:02:39.879 --> 03:02:43.479
a case by case vague basis,
and the more value you put in your

2850
03:02:43.520 --> 03:02:46.440
DLC, the more likely you are
to get denied the option to put it

2851
03:02:46.760 --> 03:02:52.559
for free unless you val but they
had to forego achievements. So like you're

2852
03:02:52.600 --> 03:02:56.159
you're it's like a shit shit sandwich
no matter which way you go, Like,

2853
03:02:56.920 --> 03:03:01.360
I mean, uh, it's the
strangest dream available. Also, you

2854
03:03:01.520 --> 03:03:05.680
play fucking bashing in Google Chrome.
I did it on my on my aging

2855
03:03:05.920 --> 03:03:11.680
mac book. Yeah's pretty much fine, like browser based HTML five. That's

2856
03:03:11.760 --> 03:03:16.200
crazy, it's awesome. That's completely
fucking does not have a macport and I

2857
03:03:16.280 --> 03:03:20.319
played it on my Mac. That's
bananas. It's It does have a Google

2858
03:03:20.360 --> 03:03:22.200
port though, so I guess you
can play that on Google Book if you

2859
03:03:22.239 --> 03:03:26.280
hadn't one play I difinitely run on
Rome book. I mean those things are

2860
03:03:26.280 --> 03:03:31.319
so. It was a Chrome yeah, but I mean any any capable machine

2861
03:03:31.319 --> 03:03:33.920
that Chrome runs on, it'll run
yeah yeah, like and then I run,

2862
03:03:33.040 --> 03:03:35.920
well, but it will run on
You could sertu play it on Linux

2863
03:03:35.959 --> 03:03:39.719
because there's a Linux version, you
know, like whatever they've they've got,

2864
03:03:39.000 --> 03:03:43.680
they've got system requirements posted and this
first version doesn't have game pad supports.

2865
03:03:43.760 --> 03:03:46.879
Yeah, you're kind of but they
did the language imply that it might come,

2866
03:03:46.280 --> 03:03:52.280
hopefully will come. It's just ne
to me platform. I've never seen

2867
03:03:52.319 --> 03:03:56.360
anyone. I've never seen a game
worth naming come out like that. Yeah,

2868
03:03:56.440 --> 03:03:58.840
you know the I don't know if
it was Greg or somebody. It

2869
03:03:58.920 --> 03:04:01.639
might have been like the super Giant
blog. But credit was given to the

2870
03:04:01.680 --> 03:04:05.600
Google engineers that helps make this happen. And well, what that says to

2871
03:04:05.639 --> 03:04:09.120
me is that Google like singled this
out as like kind of the vanguard,

2872
03:04:09.239 --> 03:04:11.079
like this should be a good platform
and be a good test case for I

2873
03:04:11.120 --> 03:04:13.600
mean not only that, but that
seems like a pretty big honor toe bastion.

2874
03:04:13.799 --> 03:04:18.120
Yeah, I agree for Google to
pursue it like that, but just

2875
03:04:18.360 --> 03:04:20.120
like, yeah, seeing like this
is of the quality and of the tone

2876
03:04:20.120 --> 03:04:24.239
that we want to that we would
want to represent Google with in kind of

2877
03:04:24.399 --> 03:04:26.920
trying to put this out there as
a platform. And it's good to yeah

2878
03:04:26.959 --> 03:04:31.079
also that you know it hits whatever
system requirements, not being too technically demand.

2879
03:04:31.079 --> 03:04:33.920
It's good to see some of the
stuff like showing up in this,

2880
03:04:33.040 --> 03:04:37.559
like Google App Store stuff that they
put into Chrome actually being of substance because

2881
03:04:37.639 --> 03:04:39.840
up until up until this, like
it seems like a lot of stuff they're

2882
03:04:39.840 --> 03:04:43.319
putting up. There are just any
even this to some extent is this is

2883
03:04:43.399 --> 03:04:46.280
the same way, but it almost
looks like you're just installing, uh bookmarks.

2884
03:04:48.000 --> 03:04:50.600
Like when you install Realm of the
Mad God in the Chrome app Store,

2885
03:04:52.159 --> 03:04:54.319
what you're really installing is something that
points to Realm of the Mad Good

2886
03:04:54.360 --> 03:04:58.840
dot com because it's flash game.
Like it's not. There's just they're just

2887
03:04:58.840 --> 03:05:01.440
a little redirects like it's no and
and this and and even this redirects you

2888
03:05:01.479 --> 03:05:05.399
I think to like Chrome dot Supergiant
Games dot Com or something like that.

2889
03:05:05.680 --> 03:05:09.159
So it's I just kind of love
the that still does like a forty meg

2890
03:05:09.239 --> 03:05:13.760
install or something like. It's somehow
you know if this is platform agnostics,

2891
03:05:13.799 --> 03:05:16.159
Like wouldn't that with Microsoft because they
have their own bing thing, like you

2892
03:05:16.239 --> 03:05:20.000
know if it's like bolted onto like
PSN or something was like, hey,

2893
03:05:20.079 --> 03:05:24.520
we also have like you know,
all these web games that are powered by

2894
03:05:24.559 --> 03:05:26.120
Google that you can just get.
It's just like, hey, we poorted

2895
03:05:26.200 --> 03:05:30.760
Chrome to the p S three.
Yeah go, I mean it. Indeed,

2896
03:05:31.079 --> 03:05:35.479
let's talk about new releases. Yeah, let's all right, great,

2897
03:05:35.600 --> 03:05:41.639
yeahs terrific, Noo Joe Danger a
special edition for XBLA that's fifteen bucks.

2898
03:05:41.319 --> 03:05:45.879
Uh. There's an ORCS Must Die
expansion pack that's out this week. There's

2899
03:05:45.879 --> 03:05:50.319
a Fruit Ninja Connect expansion pack that's
out this week. There is a gun

2900
03:05:50.479 --> 03:05:54.559
Slinger expansion that's out this week.
Guns Stringer expansion that's out this week,

2901
03:05:54.639 --> 03:06:00.799
Real Big Shooting. It's called probably
non and FMV base and all Cats problem.

2902
03:06:01.120 --> 03:06:05.680
Yeah. I loved Dancysdale pointing out
like Major Nelson got it wrong.

2903
03:06:07.319 --> 03:06:11.239
It's in caps all right, sounds
tracked play Real big Fish and no,

2904
03:06:11.280 --> 03:06:13.000
it's not spelled Real that way.
That's all it's. Yeah. So it's

2905
03:06:13.000 --> 03:06:18.600
also not like a slot machine game, which is what I was thinking.

2906
03:06:18.840 --> 03:06:20.840
It's in Real big It's like,
oh, it's gonna make everything look like

2907
03:06:20.840 --> 03:06:22.840
slot machines. Were on the Tony
Hawks not track. Yeah, yeah,

2908
03:06:24.000 --> 03:06:28.920
probably one or two. I ate
lunch next to Real big Fish at the

2909
03:06:28.920 --> 03:06:33.000
Warp Tour when my brother was on
it. What were they like old and

2910
03:06:33.559 --> 03:06:37.239
using it? Why they were still
on the Warp Tour? Right, this

2911
03:06:37.360 --> 03:06:39.879
is the last couple of years,
yeah, three years ago. Okay,

2912
03:06:39.920 --> 03:06:43.399
that sounds part. They're kind of
like the headliners at this point, like

2913
03:06:43.479 --> 03:06:48.479
the old right, the old Guard
of God. Yeah, we didn't break

2914
03:06:48.600 --> 03:06:52.600
quite big enough, so we're still
relegated to the modern rock radio fucking tours.

2915
03:06:52.799 --> 03:06:56.239
They're still good. Yeah. They
were always fun to watch live.

2916
03:06:56.280 --> 03:06:58.680
Was that like summer of ninety seven
it seemed like that stuff was gonna get

2917
03:06:58.719 --> 03:07:01.680
real big. Yeah, that's probably
I remember seen them in like ninety five

2918
03:07:01.799 --> 03:07:07.280
or ninety six, right, taking
it like the one summer on MTV.

2919
03:07:07.559 --> 03:07:09.680
Oh yeah, there was. Everything
was fucking everyone like, hey, walking

2920
03:07:09.719 --> 03:07:13.879
through sears and you were hearing real
big fifth songs playing right and you're like,

2921
03:07:13.040 --> 03:07:18.000
oh god, what is happening.
Everything's turned weird? And then and

2922
03:07:18.319 --> 03:07:22.879
then it all it was beautifully weird. It was. Yeah, it was

2923
03:07:22.920 --> 03:07:26.760
great for a while. I loved
it to death, Like this is really

2924
03:07:26.799 --> 03:07:30.760
about do you think you think finally, my my, my, much demanded

2925
03:07:30.879 --> 03:07:33.440
SKA Revival. I feel like I
feel some fifth wave, but it's gonna

2926
03:07:33.479 --> 03:07:39.399
be dub step influenced, like Electros
saying, and I don't I don't think

2927
03:07:39.399 --> 03:07:45.040
it's gonna know. That's what this
podcasts because of that, were gonna have

2928
03:07:45.079 --> 03:07:50.879
time, dude, It's like three
hours plus here this this week, though,

2929
03:07:52.200 --> 03:07:54.520
being Caravella, let's talk about what's
going on on the side this week

2930
03:07:54.559 --> 03:08:00.040
before we before we say it week, uh tune in your normal there's and

2931
03:08:00.200 --> 03:08:03.120
I throw it on yeah, T
and T. This week we're playing Star

2932
03:08:03.120 --> 03:08:07.319
Wars Galaxies until it goes down,
until until fall off, until the motherfucking

2933
03:08:07.360 --> 03:08:09.319
wheels fall off. I have my
Star Wars Galaxy account. I have my

2934
03:08:09.440 --> 03:08:13.200
Rodian Smuggler already created. I have
my Orange Crush. I yes, I

2935
03:08:13.319 --> 03:08:20.440
made it to uh to tattooing five
Yeah, like five, between five and

2936
03:08:20.479 --> 03:08:22.360
seven. I would say, all
right, do you have a ship ready

2937
03:08:22.360 --> 03:08:24.920
to fucking party? Do not own
a ship? No? I have a

2938
03:08:26.000 --> 03:08:30.360
speeder though, schedule to go down
at a nine pm Pacific time is what

2939
03:08:30.440 --> 03:08:37.399
I'm twelve. The information that I
have one is nine pm Pacific times.

2940
03:08:37.719 --> 03:08:41.719
This is all gonna go shakeup.
They've had some sort of like big faction

2941
03:08:41.879 --> 03:08:46.319
thing going, haven't they. You
know what I just made it into.

2942
03:08:46.840 --> 03:08:50.760
Ask me anything about Star Wars Galaxy. What is Star Wars Galax? I

2943
03:08:50.799 --> 03:08:56.479
have no fucking idea. I don't
know that I learned that Star Wars Galaxies

2944
03:08:56.639 --> 03:09:00.520
no fucking idea. I went I
was hanging out on the space for way

2945
03:09:00.559 --> 03:09:01.719
too long, and then I said
all right, fuck this, let's get

2946
03:09:01.719 --> 03:09:03.559
to the planet. And then I
got to the planet do you have the

2947
03:09:03.639 --> 03:09:07.760
expansion? And I was like,
oh god, there's nothing to do here.

2948
03:09:07.879 --> 03:09:11.639
This place is a dead What the
fuck jumped to light Speed and the

2949
03:09:11.639 --> 03:09:15.879
Wookie revenge? I think all that
stuff is spilt. I don't know.

2950
03:09:15.959 --> 03:09:18.920
I don't know if you have your
I think they've rebuilt Star Wars Galaxy so

2951
03:09:18.920 --> 03:09:24.959
many times that that stuff doesn't even
matter anymore. Host Starsider, I want

2952
03:09:24.000 --> 03:09:26.040
to say, it's the name of
my server. Get your character over to

2953
03:09:26.120 --> 03:09:30.799
Starsider if you haven't done the transfer, which you probably have like a dozen

2954
03:09:30.879 --> 03:09:33.680
transfers in your account, because I
have one, and I have barely played

2955
03:09:33.719 --> 03:09:37.200
that fucking game. So you can't
make characters now, though you have to,

2956
03:09:37.319 --> 03:09:41.120
you have to have already. Yeah, you've got to be in for

2957
03:09:41.159 --> 03:09:45.000
the end game at this point.
So we've been advertising, you know,

2958
03:09:45.079 --> 03:09:50.319
our intent to do an end of
Star Wars Galaxies four months. Yesself,

2959
03:09:50.479 --> 03:09:52.440
if you didn't know that this was
coming, it's not our fucking fault.

2960
03:09:52.440 --> 03:09:58.399
I had people asking me on Twitter, which is a microblogging service, Uh,

2961
03:10:00.360 --> 03:10:01.799
hey, are you guys trying to
do anything for the finale? Of

2962
03:10:01.799 --> 03:10:07.479
Star Wars Galaxy, and I wanted
to reach the screen and choke every single

2963
03:10:07.520 --> 03:10:11.520
one. I was like, I
put that on the page that has been

2964
03:10:11.559 --> 03:10:13.799
on the home page of the site
four months, for months, like,

2965
03:10:13.840 --> 03:10:18.120
how could you keep up with anything
we do and not know months? Well,

2966
03:10:18.239 --> 03:10:20.399
if you didn't know before, now
you know Star Wars Galaxies. This

2967
03:10:20.479 --> 03:10:24.399
Thursday, look for it. We'll
be squall will be there and we'll do

2968
03:10:24.520 --> 03:10:28.120
some Old Republic stuff at some point, if not this week whatever, right

2969
03:10:28.159 --> 03:10:31.360
after that. Early game access supposedly
starts on Tuesday. So assuming that I

2970
03:10:31.520 --> 03:10:35.360
get assuming that I get early game
access at such at such time, we

2971
03:10:35.479 --> 03:10:39.399
will you know that that will play
that other Star Wars game, Rebel Assault

2972
03:10:39.440 --> 03:10:43.079
too great, Yeah, fantastic,
it's my favorite to play some trust to

2973
03:10:43.159 --> 03:10:50.920
play the y Wing expansion. Well
was there one? Yeah? Yeah Wing

2974
03:10:52.000 --> 03:10:56.280
expansion. Yeah, So look for
that Thursday night the PM. No,

2975
03:10:56.440 --> 03:11:01.000
maybe I'm just thinking to Jeff Gersman
and Brad Shoemaker. That's it for this

2976
03:11:01.079 --> 03:11:03.440
week's show. Thanks for listening.
We will be back next Tuesday with another

2977
03:11:03.600 --> 03:11:05.680
edition of The Job Podcast.