WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.719 The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch Experience do not necessarily reflect 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:08.919 the opinion of the host, sponsors, or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. 3 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:18.399 As always, listener discretion is ed vibe. We got dumb wonder tupping blowing 4 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:25.399 around out here, and welcome to the Sasquatch Experience, folks. Sean Forker, 5 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:29.199 James Baker, Vans Neezber, Henry May, and Matt Arner here on 6 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:34.079 Monday, March the eleventh, twenty twenty four. That daylight savings time has 7 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:38.960 crept in and kicked our asses just a little bit. But alas we were 8 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:45.799 here, Matt and I had a great adventurous day yesterday which we're going to 9 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:50.000 be really happy to talk about here in just a little bit. Guys, 10 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:52.840 thanks for joining us here. Last week, of course we were off. 11 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:58.359 I was over at Sasquatch Watch Radio, which runs concurrent with the Sasquatch Experience 12 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:00.159 here on Monday nights at nine pm Eastern and had a great time with my 13 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.759 old fred Billy Willard. So if you folks hadn't had a chance to check 14 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:07.879 it out, it is archived. You can go to Sasquatch watch radio on 15 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:14.560 that thing called Facebook Clicking. Production was thus up for me, it was. 16 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:18.200 It was a good production. I really enjoy Billy, He's a good 17 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:23.159 dude. The Sean Forker songs the AI generated for were my favorite. That 18 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.000 was great one of them. Maybe, uh, Grammy winning, I don't 19 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:32.239 know. It was very touching. Well, Academy Award maybe, but next 20 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:36.280 year. Yeah, well, you know, how did we go? Brian 21 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:38.359 Corben, our executive producer, in the background, making sure we're being haveved 22 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:44.159 tonight. Brian, thanks for popping in with us. Sometimes we need chaperones, 23 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:47.959 guys. Tonight's show, episode ninety seven were creeping close to one hundred, 24 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:53.079 this, that and the other because Matt and I struggled all afternoon as 25 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:57.480 we were driving around the back roads of Pennsylvania trying to figure out a topic 26 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:00.359 for tonight. We really wanted to talk about what we had going on because 27 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.879 it was an incredible day out in the out in the world. It really 28 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.640 was. Yeah, something great, Matt. Wasn't it about being back in 29 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:12.840 the weakness? Oh? Any time you go out there, it's you know, 30 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:16.280 just such an eye opening experience to see the things that you know, 31 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:20.439 we got to see and we'll talk about later that. You know, the 32 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:25.639 everyday people may not get to to experience that, but we want them to, 33 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:29.439 you know, we want people to go out to the mountains and to 34 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:31.639 the woods and be safe. And yeah, we'll talked about that a lot 35 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:36.159 later. Right getting into tonight's show, though, as I said, we 36 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:39.199 are creeping close to one hundred, trying to get some great productions put together. 37 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:43.800 As we get on there Patreon, I put up some photos from our 38 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:47.639 trip yesterday, not all of them, not all of them, but some 39 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:52.879 and Matt and I are putting together another production, investigating Montour Road Part two, 40 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:58.840 kind of carrying on the story of the work we're doing up in the 41 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:05.199 northern part of PA, a very i would say, active part of Pennsylvania 42 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.319 that doesn't get a lot of respect and a lot of credit. But as 43 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:10.599 Matt and I spend more time up there, we start to see the little 44 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:16.319 hints of culture of the Bigfoot impact so much to the fact our receipt at 45 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:23.719 the place we had dinner had a Sasquatch on the actual receipt and a place 46 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:28.479 where years ago nobody would take that, you know, nobody would even joke 47 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.719 about it. Up that way, so correct Bigfoot's on the mind of people, 48 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.719 good or bad. Something has to be the impetus of getting folks to 49 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.800 be engaged. Matt and I are up there trying to figure it out and 50 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:40.719 trying to get engaged ourselves because we want those sighting reports. And of course, 51 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:45.360 folks, if you're listening and your first time listener just joining us, 52 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:46.280 thank you. If not, you've been here for a while, you can 53 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:52.000 report your siting confidentially five seven zero nine four zero nine four one one, 54 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:54.879 or email us info at sasquatch Experience dot com. You can also go to 55 00:03:54.879 --> 00:04:00.680 our website, sasquatch Experience dot com and click on submit your report, and 56 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.080 of course it is anonymous. We won't put out your information unless you want 57 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.439 us to. We would like to talk about it on the show. We 58 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:09.960 can talk about it on the show without talking about your personal information, but 59 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.039 we kind of need those reports. In fact, we got one through on 60 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:16.920 we thought was the hotline the night was actually my personal telephone number, as 61 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.279 Matt and I were discussing before we came on the air, So call her 62 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:25.240 if you're listening. I will return your call, just not tonight. Monday 63 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:31.439 nights Monday night is for we're busy doing this shit, doing this shit. 64 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:35.399 Absolutely, we're doing this stuff that have helps afford us to get out there 65 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:40.560 and do the research. So it's just good stuff. So again, five 66 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:45.160 seven zero nine four zero nine four one one is the number to send you 67 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:46.639 a report. And if you want to call that number and just tell us 68 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:49.519 what to do with ourselves, we'll also accept that. I will play that 69 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:54.079 on the show. However, yeah, we'll also play and give out your 70 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.920 phone number while we do it. Hey, listen, guys, once upon 71 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.519 a time and Henry, you know this. If you called it and pranked 72 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:05.720 our show, I put your ass on notice and you were out there. 73 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:09.360 Not only did I read your comment and let you come make a fool of 74 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:13.879 yourself, I also put your phone number out there so anybody could call you. 75 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:18.600 And I'm not saying how it's done right, how it's done, you 76 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:24.279 know, Matt and Sean. I was really taken back by the fact because 77 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:30.360 while the two of you were out doing your research, the photographs showed a 78 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:36.160 lot of snow. And I'm north west of you guys, up in the 79 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:41.759 Chicago region. It was fifty degrees. It was comfortable, it was T 80 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:46.759 shirt weather, and yet you guys are up in Pennsylvania and it's snowing on 81 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.639 you and you're doing your investigation. I'm like, how is this happening? 82 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:59.000 That's crazy? Well, yeah, I mean there's so many variables with the 83 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.839 with the turn, so the gold stream. We're also up in the you 84 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:08.319 know about you know, twenty twenty five hundred feet in elevation, so we 85 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.199 have that going as well. We have lake effect snow coming off of Lake 86 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:17.279 Eriie. There's just so much that that kind of really plays, you know, 87 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.920 a gampit with the with the weather up there. So and that's how 88 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:25.360 it was. It was nice and sunny for one picture and next thing, 89 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:30.439 you know, it's almost like a blizzard. Right. Well, I did 90 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.000 sit down and I recorded my news segment and I sent it to Sean, 91 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:40.000 and Sean sends me the photographs back of what they're what you two were doing 92 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:46.800 currently. And I was outside having a drink and it's sunny, it's warm, 93 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:51.800 it's comfortable, I'm in a T shirt and here you guys are getting 94 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:57.160 snowed on. And I was like, wow, it's so crazy how our 95 00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:02.240 environment changes in a short distance of each other, that you know, Yeah, 96 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:06.480 you can have one event happen over here, but another event happens over 97 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:13.560 here in a completely different weather environment, and that put it into perspective for 98 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:17.680 me. Yeah. Absolutely something to note. And I think it's really important 99 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.759 that if you keep an investigation log or a research log, that you really 100 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:27.879 catalog the environmental factors that are going on around you. Right only because if 101 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:32.720 you ever get called into the carpet for shenanigans, you know your local location 102 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.959 you know is if you can get as close as possible, not a general 103 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:41.560 because I'm sure there are parts of Potter County Matt and I could say we 104 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:45.720 were in Potter County and have completely different weather than what we experienced yesterday. 105 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:47.560 Yes, because, believe it or not, Matt and I were up at 106 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:53.439 the highest elevation at one point yesterday in that area and we could see everything 107 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:58.079 going on around us, but there was nothing going on at us until the 108 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:00.639 wind shift. And then all of a sudden, that wind shift and brought 109 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:05.759 everything up and it got white out, white out conditioned for a couple of 110 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:11.040 minutes. How was the wind conditions for you guys today? Horrible? It 111 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:16.800 was windy. Yeah, right, here's something else to think about Matt did 112 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:24.399 some pretty amazing vocalization yesterday while we were out on the ridge and no permeation 113 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:30.319 whatsoever. The wind killed it. There was there was no travel, no 114 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:35.159 distance whatsoever. And the only knocking of any sorts we could hear were trees. 115 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:43.120 There goes the train. The wind was knocking the trees around and causing 116 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:48.720 the clanking yesterday. But I mean we couldn't hear hardly. We had no 117 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:54.559 distal hearing whatsoever. Like the sound was just dead. After a certain footage, 118 00:08:54.600 --> 00:09:00.440 it just died. Yeah. Yeah, And that was the the thing. 119 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:05.240 If we didn't have that wind yesterday, you know, like it's just 120 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.840 one big bowl in that valley there that that vocalization would have went for miles. 121 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.320 But with that wind, I mean, it really just killed it. 122 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:18.559 We found a great spot that we could go and do those vocalizations. And 123 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:22.440 I was actually looking in Onyx and we have two kind of general spots up 124 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:28.799 there there are close by, and the other spot goes into the other valley. 125 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:33.559 There's actually like a small finger that kind of goes out towards the east, 126 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:37.480 and then you have a valley to the north end east, and then 127 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.720 you have another valley that goes to the south and a little bit to the 128 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:46.600 west, So we could be in the one spot and then do vocalizations, 129 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.240 and then we can have somebody else at that other location, which is maybe 130 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:54.320 about a quarter mile up, but they're actually going into a whole different area. 131 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.840 And if you have a good still night, those vocalizations will carry a 132 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:05.399 for miles, right, But is that not a learning point for you guys 133 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:09.080 that you know the weather conditions, which is originally why I brought it up. 134 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:16.080 The variance in the weather conditions and those vocalizations are yelled out may not 135 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:24.799 carry as far as you would anticipate because of the weather conditions. And you 136 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.919 need to take that into account too. When you're journaling, you know what 137 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:35.720 your exploration is and your research is going on, how the weather is influencing 138 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.720 what it is that you're trying to discover. Well, it's a one hundred 139 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:46.000 percent accurate statement that you're making, and it gets really important to do so 140 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:50.559 because of you know, those those variables we were talking about a little earlier, 141 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:54.000 you know, being able to notate beyond a shadow of a doubt of 142 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.919 what was happening, because if you have somebody looking into your information and they're 143 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:01.799 just using a cursory examination, not really going through. They can challenge anything 144 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:07.440 you say. Also impacts that your reliability and the data you're collecting, So 145 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.759 if something happened or something didn't happen, you kind of know what days to 146 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.799 avoid to go out there if you really plan on doing some active searching. 147 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.519 Yesterday, for Matt, it was really just passive recon for us to go 148 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:22.480 out and do some We weren't actively engaged. We were kind of following up 149 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:28.279 on an area Matt had done an investigation on, But we didn't go out 150 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.120 there with the express purpose to do quote unquote squatching. We went out there 151 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:37.759 to get the label RAND and explore because we have a couple of projects coming 152 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:39.559 up that we're working on that we need some good areas to check. And 153 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:45.799 I think Matt, I think we we hit our objective yesterday. Oh absolutely 154 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.679 that. But then also we had a situation where we thought we found some 155 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:56.440 impressions. Yes, yes, so, And just going back to the weather 156 00:11:56.519 --> 00:12:00.200 thing, I've heard some researchers say, you know what, we do don't 157 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.039 go out in the rain. We don't go out in this because you can't 158 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.559 hear anything. But you know what, your other senses, and this kind 159 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:11.159 of leads right into the impression the impressions that we're found is Okay, we 160 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:16.159 may not be able to hear, but you know what, there's other things 161 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.519 that we can kind of get from the environment. And one thing was Sean 162 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:24.919 really had his eyes on the ground and I said, hey, you know 163 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.519 what, let's take a look for, you know, any sort of impressions, 164 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.720 and he found a trackway. But well, we can go into that 165 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:37.559 a little maybe a little later, but that's something that Okay, our hearing 166 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.919 is kind of all right, it's cut out, so now your other senses 167 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:46.480 are going to kind of pick up. And again it may be I've heard 168 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:48.639 some researchers, especially out in the Pacific Northwest where they get a lot of 169 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:54.840 rain, where okay, you're going to get that rainfall and you're going to 170 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.039 have that drown out any sort of noise, but that doesn't roll out you 171 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:03.120 having a visual site or finding other evidence such as you know, the nest 172 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:09.240 from the Olympic project or track wet or anything like that. Matt, can 173 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.120 we just say my eyes were fricking on point yesterday. They were, and 174 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.440 they were I was I was extremely impressed because you know, I was telling 175 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.039 Sean I went to the eye doctor and they said, you must do like 176 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.840 a I have weird eyes sight and it's probably because my profession. I have 177 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:31.039 one eye that kind of scans and one eye that's kind of you know, 178 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.159 reads up really close. And it's because i might be at a computer screen, 179 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.279 but I'm also looking to make sure that there's nobody coming up behind me. 180 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.840 So you know, but Sean, I mean, it was just, 181 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.279 you know, We're sitting there driving down the road and I'm like, hey, 182 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.399 you know, let's look in the field for for some elk. And 183 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.960 I, you know, I'm kind of keeping my eyes towards the road and 184 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.200 you know, obviously, and but you know, Sean was like, Yo, 185 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:58.000 there's some elk in that field. And I'm like, you gotta be 186 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.879 kidney. And here there was a there was a nice heard of it. 187 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.879 You know, probably I don't know anywhere from you know, ten to fifteen. 188 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.080 Yeah, yeah, elk that we're out in the one field and elf. 189 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:18.000 Oh wow, that's awesome. Yes, well we got elk. So 190 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:24.840 later on I was just talking to Emily floor Matt on Instagram, one of 191 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.600 our people we follow and a friend. Yes, Matt and I were talking, 192 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:33.480 you know, roadside sidings, and and I was just saying this to 193 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:39.039 Emily, and elk is a large creature. It ain't freaking tiny, Okay, 194 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:41.759 it's if you don't know what an elk is, think of a big 195 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:45.720 ass deer, Okay, really big ass deer, kind of moose like, 196 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.159 yeah, but it's a big it's a it's a big freaking animal, all 197 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.440 right. And Matt and I are driving along the road and out of the 198 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.759 corner of my eye, I I think I might have screamed or I might 199 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.720 have yelled a pro sanity. I'm like, what the fuck? And Matt 200 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:05.879 and we're off to the side of us. Now listen, Matt could have 201 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.960 stuck his hand out his window and touched an elk. Yes, this is 202 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:16.120 that close to us. That's amazing. Yeah, where you guys, I 203 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.000 didn't know there were elk in that area. Well, listen, not not 204 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.679 all of Pennsylvania. Parts of Pennsylvania, and that area we do our research 205 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:31.039 at is an elk an elk area. But vance if I had nick caught 206 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:35.440 that out of the corner of my eye and it was right alongside the road, 207 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.159 yes, we would have drove right past it really now, put that 208 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:45.919 perspective. We're out there purposely looking for stuff, right right, and we 209 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:50.080 I almost missed it. But you're an everyday person and you're out on the 210 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.639 road doing your drive, and maybe you take this road one hundred and fifty 211 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:58.600 times a week and you're zoned in doing your thing. What's the potentiality that 212 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:06.039 you I've passed something and maybe roadside encounters aren't that uncommon? Right? Wow, 213 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:11.440 that's crazy. I had no idea that the elk population, not by 214 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:18.399 you or in that area was that prominent. No, absolutely, what wow? 215 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.960 Oh county yep. Yeah, well we have all county named after him. 216 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:26.840 Absolutely. But the one thing that the one thing that I brought up 217 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:30.879 is people say, oh, well, you know, an eight hundred pound, 218 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:36.960 you know, six foot nine creature, obviously somebody's gonna see one or 219 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:40.399 they're gonna you know, they can't really hide all that much. Here we 220 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:45.120 were, we literally, you know, almost stroke past. I don't know, 221 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:51.080 maybe there was seven or eight in that little group of minimum you know, 222 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:55.240 you're talking about a minimum of five hundred pounds for each animal, right 223 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:59.679 wow. So so you're looking out a lot of biomass that you know, 224 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.639 just matched in it. Like, you know, once we get the pictures 225 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:07.480 out, I mean, you know, you can see how well they're their 226 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:11.400 fur kind of blends in with the with the fauna there. But you know, 227 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:15.599 you figure something that's you know, with reddish brownish hair, you know, 228 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:19.680 at that size, and there's only one. You know, you're not 229 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:25.039 going to see that. But I think some of them as your brain also 230 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:30.480 blocks it out because like when I was up working in my yard, there 231 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:34.039 was a deer standing within reason of me, and until it decided to move, 232 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:37.000 I didn't see it. That when me and Fork, when me and 233 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:41.039 Fork are driving the one day and the cows got out of the neighbor's yard, 234 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.759 we saw some cows, but there were a few behind a couple of 235 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:48.920 bushes that until they started moving. Wait a minute, this right there, 236 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:55.839 you know, Like and we had been videoing the cows, and like when 237 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:57.559 you go back through the video and the pictures, you're like, yeah, 238 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:04.039 there's Betsy over there there. That one we were almost sucklers, you see 239 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:11.200 that, you know, you know, you if they wouldn't have moved right 240 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:14.480 that gull could have sat there for an hour or we would have been focused 241 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.000 on the other stuff. Yeah, and seen it and that's what they were, 242 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:22.279 what four hundred five hundred pound beasties. Yep. Yeah, I cannot 243 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:27.799 testify to that. I took my two boys hiking and we were in northern 244 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:33.799 Wisconsin and we were literally on a trail and I'm clearing the brush that's in 245 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:40.119 front of me, and I'm trying to clear the brush of a tan colored 246 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:45.119 animal that turned around and looked at me as to what am I doing rubbing. 247 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:49.319 I had no idea this deer it was, and it was a buck 248 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.319 was steaming in my way of while I'm trying to clear, and I had 249 00:18:55.480 --> 00:19:00.640 no idea it was there none. And of course my kids were totally excited 250 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.599 at the fact of oh, look a deer, and you know, it 251 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:08.640 just kind of scampered off. I was like, Wow, it's so incredible 252 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:18.279 when you're in that environment, how these nature animals can completely camouflage and blend 253 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:25.559 into their environment. You would never know that they're there. Yeah. No, 254 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:29.680 I did, not Old Van st Neezbit rubbing the buck in the bush. 255 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:34.079 I was think exactly what I ended up doing. That's how it goes 256 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:42.039 anyhow. But this area of Pennsylvania, we've really been getting really active in 257 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:45.680 it. Matt and I are gonna be spending a lot of time there and 258 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:48.599 we have to go to break here shortly, so after we come back out, 259 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:51.920 I'll let you talk about the sighting report. Matt. We can give 260 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.920 a little bit more about what we're doing before we go into the break, 261 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.559 and I know the news is going to encompass something. I do want to 262 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:03.640 remind folks that can come see it in person at the pen Ohio Paranormal Conference 263 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.519 on March thirtieth and Hermitage, PA. Get your tickets now at the Agents 264 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:12.079 of the Unexplained on Facebook. They also have a website and go to the 265 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:17.440 Facebook page get it. We'll be there, at least myself, Baker and 266 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:19.039 Arner will be there. We're going to have a good time, going to 267 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.039 spend the day with you. We want to get some sighting reports, so 268 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.400 come out and see us. We like to connect with our audience. We 269 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:27.759 have a lot of fun and I don't know, I think we're one of 270 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:33.640 the most approachable groups of individuals out there now. We love our we love 271 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.480 our fans, the few of you that are out there, and we have 272 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:40.440 a really good time. We really do enjoy being out in the public, 273 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:44.000 rubin elbows, just elbows with you, folks. We're not really anything else 274 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:47.759 at least, and that brings up another point with me, and I'm sorry, 275 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:51.039 Sean. I don't mean to interrupt. But for those that are watching 276 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:56.119 currently right now, and for our Patreon members, if there is a subject 277 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:03.200 that you would like us to talk about, please email us or contact us 278 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:10.200 through Facebook or other social media means. Contact us, share what it is 279 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:14.599 that you want to hear about, because this isn't about us. This is 280 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.039 about sharing with you guys and what it is that you're interested in. So 281 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:23.920 feel free and please share your interest and ideas with us, and we would 282 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:30.920 love to talk about it, sharing the laughter and love, folks. Will 283 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:38.960 be right backward, show me all right, Sasquatch experience the musical got a 284 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:41.160 lot of it, folks. We're going to take a quick break. We'll 285 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:56.200 be right back right after this. Stay tuned Tues Team awesome. Yes, 286 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:02.839 welcome back to a Monday night after taking a week off because Sean Forker decided 287 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:10.000 he wanted to do other things instead, But welcome back and thanks for joining 288 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:15.960 us on this edition of Bakefootball Horn Right here on the Sasquatch experience. So 289 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.640 we're gonna kind of kick things off here a little bit. Sorry if I 290 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:25.200 sound nasily, it's because I am. It's a head cold. Love to 291 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:30.599 head cold. You want me to pause while I snort? I could do 292 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:34.880 that. I'll put it on you there, Okay. So kicking off twenty 293 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:41.720 twenty four, that means West Virginia has a full year's worth of monster and 294 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:48.000 cryptid festivals to look forward to. Popular events like Moudman and the Bigfoot Festival 295 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:55.160 will be returning once again, but this year's West Virginians we'll see a new 296 00:22:55.279 --> 00:23:02.160 festivals or we'll see new festivals looking to break into the sea. These events 297 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:07.039 often attract thousands of visitors, some from clear across the country like I do. 298 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.240 If you plan on staying in the area, though, make sure that 299 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.640 you make reservations well ahead of time. So kicking things off for new festivals 300 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:22.680 in West Virginia is the Grafton Monster Festival. Wait what is the grafted Monster? 301 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:26.720 You ask, Well, let me tell you. The Grafton Monster is 302 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:30.160 described as being seven to nine feet tall, four feet wide and having white, 303 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:36.440 seal like skin. The monster also possesses no discernible head, the Grafton 304 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:41.960 Monster's head was rested within its chest. This monster also has a very loud 305 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:48.880 bellow now. The Monster Festival for graft and Monster will be June fifteenth through 306 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:53.319 the sixteenth, and it'll be outside the Black Cat Rookery Bookstore. The Grafton 307 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:59.200 Monster Festival is one of West Virginia's two new cryptid festivals coming in twenty twenty 308 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:02.079 four, and the festival well is being hosted by, Like I said, 309 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:07.400 the Black Cat Rookery Store, which will also be holding the grand opening for 310 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:12.200 its Craft and Monster Museum, which can be found inside the store. Next 311 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:17.880 up on the big event list is the West Virginia Bigfoot Festival, and that's 312 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.920 going to be held on June twenty seventh through June twenty ninth. The West 313 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:26.720 Virginia Bigfoot Festival will be returning for its fourth year, but it'll be at 314 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:33.200 a new location and with an extra day of festivities. According to the Facebook 315 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.680 page event group, the event will feature vendors, live music, food trucks, 316 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:44.079 guest speakers, workshops. What's the workshop, Let's go build a bifoot 317 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:49.519 Okay in the workshop. I'm sorry people, it's a stretch okay anyway, 318 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:56.960 twenty twenty threes. Festival also featured a Bigfoot calling contest, which everybody lines 319 00:24:56.039 --> 00:25:00.880 up on a stage with their phone and the first one that and dial and 320 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:04.000 get hold of Bakefoot wins. Yeah. I just made that part of it, 321 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:11.519 but they do have a calling contest that might be more ridiculous. When 322 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:18.720 we come back, we'll discuss a favorite West Virginia festival. You can all 323 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:26.519 take bets to try to guess what it is. You're listening to the big 324 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:44.440 football horn right here on the Sasquatch Experience. Hello, I'm Vance Nusbitt and 325 00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:48.920 you may know me from the hit show Sasquatch Experience. 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The Vegetable Man of Marion 334 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:07.039 County is one of West Virginia's lesser known monster tales that first appeared in Gray 335 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:14.960 Barker newsletter back in nineteen seventy six. Veggieman Day will also be making its 336 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:22.319 debut and is being organized by our West Virginia based friends, Moth Boys Paranormal 337 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:29.920 podcast and Conjured Dust Designs, an Ohio artist known for their cryptid monster artwork. 338 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.160 This is going to be located at the Frank and Jane Gaber West Virginia 339 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:42.039 Folk Life Center on July thirteenth. Thanks again for listening to this edition of 340 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:48.759 the Big Football Horn right here on the Sasquatch Experience, and as always I'm 341 00:27:48.839 --> 00:28:06.519 telling we meet again. 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You can become a member as little ass to to to two dollars 351 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.000 a month and enough of those shameless plugs. But gentlemen, while we were 352 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:03.240 on break, I was alerted to the fact that there is another Clearfield County 353 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.359 Outdoor Show, Central PA Outdoor Show, Yes, from March fifteenth to the 354 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:12.119 seventeenth in Clearfield this week Clearfield County Fairgrounds. Amy Boo will be there. 355 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.640 Our good friend Amy Boo from Project Zoo book, former guest on our show 356 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.240 All Around, great lady, good friend and if you'd like to go out 357 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.839 and see Amy, she'll be there at that event. So go ahead, 358 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:29.920 Centralpa Outdoorshow dot com for more information on that. Get out there and support 359 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.559 good research. That's what we do with the Sasquatch Experience. So, Matt, 360 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.720 before we went on break, I said that we were going to allow 361 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.440 you some time to talk about the reason we went up to the area. 362 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.200 So if you'd like to go ahead and share the encounter, well, you 363 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:45.920 know, we don't have to give specifics of names or whatnot, but I 364 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.640 think the story is good enough for our audience to listen as to why you 365 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.960 and I are taking our times on snowy days to go up there. Absolutely, 366 00:29:53.839 --> 00:30:02.920 so we got a Jesus christmin like was that? Okay? That was 367 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:08.160 it for me? Yeah. So anyways, we got a report that the 368 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:12.839 person had an encounter up in that area and they were referred to us from 369 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.759 a good friend of ours. So I was able to talk to the witness 370 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:25.039 and it's what you would consider a good class be encounter. He didn't have 371 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:30.039 a visualization, but you know, with everything that he said, it really 372 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.680 hit the nail on the head. So what happened was back in June, 373 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.119 he was up there with a group of people that were fishing, and which 374 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.400 is very common in that particular area. There's a bunch of world class drout 375 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:48.039 streams up in that general vicinity. Yes, so he was up there. 376 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:56.720 His plan was originally to come up on Wednesday and stay through Sunday, However, 377 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.079 his plans changed, so he came up Saturday and he planned to stay 378 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:06.440 till Wednesday. Most of the people get there around Friday, Saturday Sunday and 379 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:11.880 then they're gone, so he'd have at least two almost three days to have 380 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:18.200 the river all to himself there. So he had set up a tent and 381 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:23.160 it was a little bit outside of where the stream was. It's a mix 382 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:29.559 of fields, some bottom land, there's plenty of woods, and of course 383 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:33.480 the mountains were there. So he was down on a flat park, had 384 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.440 his tent set up. He was up there Saturday, everyone's out there, 385 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:45.400 they had nothing happen whatsoever. Sunday everyone's starting to leave, and I believe 386 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:49.440 by Sunday night he was the only person that was left there. So Sunday 387 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:55.680 night nothing happened. So then Monday he goes out to fish. He's the 388 00:31:55.720 --> 00:32:00.160 only one out there, so he's out there fishing. He comes back. 389 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:06.240 Now granted this is in June, so sunset isn't until you know, probably 390 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.680 like eight thirty. He comes back, starts his fire, has a little 391 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:16.279 dinner. Around ten o'clock he's sitting at the campfire there and all of a 392 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:22.880 sudden, he hears about four very soft whoops. But he said where the 393 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:28.319 woops were coming from, He thought it was probably about a mile away from 394 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:34.480 him, but he thought that was odd. And then almost immediately after the 395 00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:40.279 whoops went, he said, what he heard was gibber jabber. So I 396 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.400 asked him, I said, how do you explain the gibber jabber? And 397 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:51.880 he said, I don't know. It was like somebody going like and of 398 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:53.400 course, you know, there's one thing that popped up in my head. 399 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:58.359 I didn't say anything, and then I kind of kept that for, you 400 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.440 know, for some questions after the interview, but I said, okay, 401 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.799 I said, then what happened? He said, then all of a sudden 402 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.400 he heard this howl. And he said, this howl just went you know, 403 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:14.640 probably for the next you know, twenty thirty seconds. He said, 404 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:19.319 it was so loud. He said, he felt that noise, you know, 405 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.039 through him, He felt it reverberate through him. He still thought it 406 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.160 was not that close or not that far away from him, or not that 407 00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:32.599 close. I'm sorry, but he's somewhat at that point still felt relatively safe. 408 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.319 However, because of all three of those things happening, and there's no 409 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.759 one else out there. He said, all right, I'm going to start 410 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.880 cleaning up the campfire, and you know, I might be sleeping in the 411 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.559 truck tonight. Is kind of what was going on through his head. So 412 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.599 about ten minutes later, as he's cleaning up from about fifty yards away, 413 00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:02.000 he hears one real solid wood knock, and he said at that point, 414 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:06.839 and he's like, all right, that's it, he jumps in his truck. 415 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.280 Now, what he did was he drove out to there's a little side 416 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.480 road that we were on. He drove all the way out to the main 417 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.719 road. It's not really a highway, but it's the main road that goes 418 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.880 through that particular valley. He did not see one person. He said, 419 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.840 there was no cars, no people. There's a cabin up there where the 420 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.280 people from his fishing camp were normally staying. He said, there was no 421 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:36.880 one there. Everything was dark. He goes back and there is nothing. 422 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:42.719 So he drove closer to the road, took his car, turned it off, 423 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.800 locked the doors, stayed in the car, tried to go to sleep. 424 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:49.519 He said. The very next day he got up, he got to 425 00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:54.199 sell service, called his girlfriend and said I'm coming home. And Tuesday you 426 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.760 know, Tuesday morning, he was packed up and out of there. Now 427 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.599 we spoke to him, we mentioned about the gibber jabber and the first thing 428 00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.320 that came up in my you know, when he was doing that, especially 429 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:13.119 when he did that description, I thought of Ron moorehead in the Sierras sounds 430 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:17.280 right. And we've also had other other accounts where people talked about, you 431 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:25.239 know, hearing some sort of weird vocalization almost like a talking And I had 432 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.960 asked him, I said, have you done any sort of research in the 433 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:30.639 past, have you looked into this? He said, absolutely not. He 434 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.519 said it wasn't until he started putting two and two together. He spoke to 435 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:38.760 his girlfriend about it and he said, all right, you know then he 436 00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:43.280 starts going on the internet. But I don't think he was familiar with the 437 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:50.679 Sarah sounds. He just really didn't kind of click into that. So so 438 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.360 I was pretty confident that that's something that you know, that the witness may 439 00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:58.280 not have been, you know, completely familiar with, which you know, 440 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:02.800 for us as an encounter is is pretty good. But going back to this, 441 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.559 uh, this area, this is an area where in one valley we've 442 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:13.239 had this you know, very classic class b encounter with the vocalizations in the 443 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.280 wood Knock the year before I think it was well, that was not even 444 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.920 a year. It was about six months before there was Wooden Knocks over in 445 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.000 the next well, it's I can't say it's the next valley, but it's 446 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:31.360 the next roadway that comes up through those mountains. So you know, so 447 00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:36.039 there is some sort of action up there, it's just that there's no people 448 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:42.519 up there. One observation, and Sean was was the counter for this. 449 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.519 We were on the major around I'll let you know what what road. It 450 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:52.440 was Route forty four, and we jumped on at Cherry Spring State Park and 451 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.400 we drove that, Yes, absolutely, and we drove that all the way 452 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.519 down to Waterville in that amount of time. How many cars would we pass 453 00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:07.360 on? For four? We passed four cars. Yes, So I mean 454 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.199 this is on a Sunday. Now, granted the weather wasn't that great, 455 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:16.119 but this is kind of typical though for that particular area. Unless it's hunting 456 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:22.039 season, fishing season, or something else, you're not going to see all 457 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:23.679 these people flood in, you know, flood in and it's not like the 458 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:29.440 Jersey Shore or you know, your typical tourist area where people are coming in 459 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.440 all the time. You know, you have just see thousands and thousands and 460 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.519 thousands of acres, and you know you have literally, you know, no 461 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.800 one up there. So they could be up there. They could have a 462 00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.800 punk rock band for all we know. You know, no one's gonna hear 463 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:46.599 them, you know, no one's gonna encounter them. They could do whatever 464 00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.800 they want. I just wanted to add to that point in Matt, that 465 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:52.840 the fifth or sixth time I've been up there for with you, and I've 466 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:58.079 done some other investigation near there. Yes, probably as we were talking to 467 00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.719 Tom Farrence as the crow flies, probably not far away from an investigation I 468 00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:07.840 did in twenty sixteen with the PBS Pennsylvania big Foot Society. The last few 469 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.239 times af there, we've saw no cars aside from our own. Yeah, 470 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:17.239 it's remote, and you know, for not frequent. Rather we're on season 471 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.239 or off season. The fact of the matter is these setting reports are happening 472 00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.159 in this area. Of course, you're not going to have an intense amount 473 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:28.280 of frequency of them if there's not, if it's not a frequented area, 474 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.559 what's the one thing you need to have? A sighting, A person a 475 00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.639 damn witness, right right, certain, So if you don't have so many 476 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.559 people out there, how the hell you're going to get a sighting report. 477 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:44.000 So, I mean, as the frustration goes from these places that we're not 478 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.760 getting or we don't have a lot of reports, you have to build the 479 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:52.360 relationships out there to get them. These aren't you know, these are outdoorsmen, 480 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.960 they're older people, they are experienced hunters. They're not people who are 481 00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.960 going to mess around and piss around in the bigfoot world. You know, 482 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.159 most of them do not believe until they have an experience of their own. 483 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.599 And if they do believe, they're not going to tell you in front of 484 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.039 their buddies. They're going to wait till they can pull you aside and then 485 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.199 they'll take you and tell you the story. So that's how we get a 486 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.840 lot of these reports up in some of these regions. Pennsylvania is a different 487 00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:16.480 way of life. You know, we're very rural in the central part. 488 00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:20.880 It's not just Pittsburgh and it's not just Philly. There's this, you know, 489 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:25.800 millions of acres in between that makes up Pennsylvania. Gorgeous beautiful wilderness where 490 00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.320 people respect the outdoors, and they like their hunting, they like their fishing, 491 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.159 and so much of that is, you know, untapped in terms of 492 00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.639 getting these sighting reports. The last ten years, maybe we've had an increase 493 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.800 in influx and reports, but there's still so much out there that's not been 494 00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.440 told that Matt and I really want to capture. And we don't want to 495 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:51.679 capture to be greedy. We just want the damn data. We want to 496 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.320 know when we can deploy so we could be a lot more efficient in the 497 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:58.559 work that we're doing. And we need it. Folks, if you're out 498 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.440 there listening and you had an encounter her, you're out there listening and you 499 00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.559 had a friend who had an encounter, put up her shut up, get 500 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.039 him out here to us so we can talk to him and get the information. 501 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.000 We need it to stay viable. We have to have it to continue 502 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.639 to be smart. So go ahead, Matt, I'll let you finish off 503 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:16.800 my little die dribe there, no, no, Well, I just want 504 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.880 to add to that is and you know we touched on it right after the 505 00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.400 break. You mentioned Amy Boo. And the one thing is is I give 506 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:30.280 her all the credited the world for what she's doing. She's actually going out 507 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:36.519 to these sportsmanships and setting up the table and you know, having you know, 508 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:42.000 building that relationship with witnesses and you know, and she's very appropriate. 509 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:49.000 She's such a lovely person, but she's so approachable, so I think people 510 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.800 would just feel more comfortable talking to her. I think maybe it's the you 511 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:54.559 know, she was a teacher and everything, so she she knows how to 512 00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.840 you know, work with different personalities and such. But she is such a 513 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.400 great people person and you know, having her out at these shows, that's 514 00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.840 where you're getting you know, the people you know, such as the ones 515 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:13.800 that we're talking about that you know aren't aren't sister and talked about, you 516 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.320 know, exactly, you know, to their friends that you know they they 517 00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:22.159 may have seen something peeking behind a tree or the vocalization, but maybe for 518 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.960 you know, again, someone who who's like that, they can come out 519 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:34.000 and talk to her. So right, for our podcast listeners, Pilot Island 520 00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:38.039 Research never ask anyone if they've had a big foot encounter. Instead, ask 521 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:43.000 them if they've had experiences in the wild they couldn't find a natural explanation for, 522 00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.039 and let them find their way into the confilm. And that's a hell 523 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:50.599 of a good point. Actually, you and I were talking about that yesterday 524 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:55.199 in terms of this overall new project we're working on that we're trying to leave 525 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:01.480 the sasquatch out of it in order to attract a wider audience, folks who 526 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:07.400 may have had some sort of wilderness phenomena with any kind of animal that they'd 527 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:13.079 like to share with us. And when you take away that that the Olympic 528 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.039 Project philosophy right right now, we were talking about, nowhere is bigfoot in 529 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:21.119 the Olympic Project philosophy, you know in the name, and you take that 530 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:25.119 away, you're a hell of a lot more liable to probably get more results. 531 00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:30.159 So great, great point there, Pine Island Research, Thank you so 532 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.679 much for posting that. Yes, very good info right there. Do you 533 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.920 do you think maybe the reason there's also not as many settings is because a 534 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.880 lot of the people that are out there are hunters and fishermen, and so 535 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:46.320 when they hear something bigger than they are looking for or could handle, they 536 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:50.800 kind of move on quicker. They don't, you know, hang out, 537 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.400 like if they from a disc. Like when we were out in the Ordinance 538 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:58.960 we heard what could be a small animal coming towards us. It was a 539 00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.920 skunk at one point. But the fact was, if we would have felt 540 00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:06.480 it was a bear or something larger, we would have moved on quicker than 541 00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.119 to wait to see what it is, you know. And the one that 542 00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.920 are these people are to say, Okay, I hear a lot of this 543 00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.199 over here, and I hear a lot of trees getting snapped and whatever, 544 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.960 and I'm here for deer. I'm not here to get mulled by a bear 545 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.679 now, and they move on. Well. The other thing, too, 546 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.519 is being a hunter. If I'm out in the woods and I'm in a 547 00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.880 spot and you know, I'll you know, we'll we'll talk a little bit 548 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.280 about the area that we were at. Specifically yesterday when I was changing up 549 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:43.079 my trail camera position. Was if I see a spot there where I see 550 00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.440 all sorts of deer sign but there's no deer, is something chasing it away, 551 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:50.440 you know, and I'm not going to sit there and you know, 552 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:52.880 and yeah, I might sit there and say, oh, you know what, 553 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.159 maybe it's gonna come by, you know, first thing in the morning, 554 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:57.239 or it's gonna come by it, you know, right before dusk. 555 00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.800 But if I'm seeing all this deer sign, but there's no year around, 556 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.800 I'm probably going to go somewhere else, you know, and try to go 557 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.960 to where the deer are, you know, and it could be that you 558 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.159 know, something you know earlier had had scared them away or and I and 559 00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.360 I'll tell you that I'm definitely guilty of that. Where we've been out, 560 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:20.119 you know, hunting in that general area, and we've seen area that on 561 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.119 paper is like, you know, that's the place you want to be, 562 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.880 you know, because there's you know, there's food sources nearby, there's cover 563 00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.519 nearby, there's places. And we didn't see a thing, you know, 564 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.840 not to say that there was anything chasing them away. It was probably hunters, 565 00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.400 you know, but right, but we didn't stick around, you know, 566 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.199 so we're just going to get up and go somewhere else. But we 567 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.880 did find a great area with a lot of deer sign And one thing that 568 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:51.360 that kind of shocked me was it was right up at the at the very 569 00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.199 edge of the ridge and literally when you walked over to the ridge and you 570 00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.199 look down, it was almost like a canyon. I mean it was Sean 571 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:05.400 could could tell you, man, there was no way we were we were 572 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.280 first either you know, walking we wouldn't walk down there, like you would 573 00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.440 literally have to slide you know, down there and there's no way to get 574 00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:19.360 up. But yes, yes, you would need a ladder. Yes. 575 00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:24.840 But what I found was we had you know, the in other people talked 576 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:29.159 about, like you know, the gas lines and in the power lines and 577 00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.119 everything. What we had was and this is one thing that you know I 578 00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:37.760 kind of marked my observations with yesterday, was we didn't see as much sign 579 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:44.119 along the you know, along the gas line or the edges adjacent to it. 580 00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:47.679 Well, we actually found was about i'd say one hundred and fifty yards 581 00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.599 away was the edge of the was the edge of the ridge. We actually 582 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.719 saw more sign that was over towards the other edge of the ridge than we 583 00:45:54.760 --> 00:46:00.639 saw that was closer to to that particular area. So thing to kind of 584 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.679 keep an eye on when when we're out there, you know, I may 585 00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.280 end up moving the uh the trail cam at some point closer to that ridge 586 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.199 area. But we'll see how we do. But we'll go into the into 587 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:19.800 the trackway. So again Sean was just uh, super observant and yes, 588 00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:23.559 eagle eyed, and and there was a couple of impressions that we saw but 589 00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:30.480 unfortunately we had so much Uh there was actually a sleep that was coming down, 590 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:32.199 so it covered a lot up a lot. There was a lot of 591 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.119 leafy material. But there was one or two impressions like, you know, 592 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:42.559 this could be something and may not be anything. But he found this trackway 593 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.639 and on page again, like you know, if you looked at it, 594 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:52.119 you know, just you know, seeing where these prints were like, oh 595 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.599 my god, this thing has a stride and it's dipping. You know, 596 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.559 it's you know, breaking the surface. I'm a pretty big guy and I 597 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:05.519 would really wasn't breaking the surface all that much. But whatever this was, 598 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.239 I mean, you know, the impression was probably at least a maybe three 599 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.599 quarters of an inch, you know, compared to what a little depth. 600 00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:22.000 Yeah, so we're looking at it, but what we're noticing and again, 601 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.519 if you if you just kind of keeps looking at that, at those particular 602 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:29.719 impressions, you're going to say, oh my god, man, this this 603 00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.639 does look you know, like like it could be something maybe about eleven inches 604 00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:37.000 or so in length, maybe a little more. You couldn't really tell if 605 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:44.119 there was toes because it was going on a slight decline. But but as 606 00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:50.159 we got closer what we What we noticed was it appeared that there was just 607 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.840 in the way that trackway was. It appeared that it would have been made 608 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:58.559 by something with four four legs as opposed to two. Yeah, and the 609 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.639 width on it was starting to get pretty pretty wider than they were long. 610 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.320 And I said that, and I think we've got a bear. I don't 611 00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.840 think we have a big fun we have a bear. Okay. So I 612 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.880 have a question to throw to the two of you. Yes, what you 613 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:16.440 brought up earlier, what do you believe has a higher population? Would it 614 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:22.440 be deer or elk in that area? You know what? It's it's funny 615 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.000 because if you ask any hunters are going to say there's a lot more elk 616 00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.400 out there than deer, because you always end up seeing elk rather than deer. 617 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.719 But the deer population is actually, uh, you know, pretty de 618 00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:43.119 the of the elk hurt out, okay, and those yes, So, 619 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:47.880 as far as a bipedal creature quote unquote, a deer would be easier to 620 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:53.440 take down than an elk. Oh absolutely absolutely okay, And especially uh, 621 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:58.920 especially coming up in the next like month or two, you're you're gonna start 622 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:04.519 having a fawn strung and that is that is the number that's like one of 623 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:08.559 the number one feeds for your your carner. You know, well you're through 624 00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:16.400 some air ye brat ye yes, very vulnerable. So so yeah, they're 625 00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.079 a nice tasty meal for them. But anyways, even though they look cute. 626 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.480 But going back to the princes and like, you know, we took 627 00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:28.400 some pictures and they're not not great, but you know, we got to 628 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.480 see where the trackway was and and you know, again looking at things, 629 00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:36.119 you know, not just centering in on that, you know, each single 630 00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.440 print, but kind of looking at the area as a whole, we were 631 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:43.880 able to make that determination. The one thing I'm gonna say though, is 632 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:50.880 Okay, this was made by a bear. However, this bear made that 633 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:58.920 impression that deep mm hmm. So this bear that was coming through Now again 634 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.440 we're in Pennsylvania. We have some very large black bears. I'm gonna make 635 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.280 a rough estimate here. I'm gonna say anywhere from four hundred to six hundred 636 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:13.440 pounds. Wow, that was a monster. Yeah, that was a yeah. 637 00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.840 And even even where I live here in northeastern PA, I'm on kind 638 00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:20.760 of the other side of the state, but I'm still in the in the 639 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.920 mountainous region. We've had beers that were I think the biggest bears were in 640 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:29.559 the seven hundred pounds range. Wow up here crazy Yeah. Yeah. And 641 00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.519 the thing is we couldn't. You couldn't photograph them to save your life. 642 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:37.320 They were terrified in terms and I tried different angles, I tried all kinds 643 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.639 of ways to photograph them. You couldn't even really put anything up next to 644 00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:45.880 it to scale it. Yeah, you could definitely with the eye delineate a 645 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:51.480 clear print in terms of being there, just with the leaf litter and the 646 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:57.559 impressions. It just Yes, it worked for a foot but at no point, 647 00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.239 I don't think at any point, Matt, we really thought we were 648 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.280 looking at was a big footprint. I think we knew it was some course 649 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:07.199 sort of animal. Yes, but it definitely it was a good exercise yesterday. 650 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:13.119 But it's just to the point that in PA you don't get really good 651 00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:20.159 footprint castings because of the environment. Correct. So I know in in you 652 00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.920 know, the Western United States, they have different soil compositions. You know, 653 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:27.920 you look at uh, you know, you know. Henry can probably 654 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.400 fill us in on a little more of like how how Bluff Creek was you 655 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.559 know, with in terms of the soil, you know, like that muddy 656 00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:39.360 sandy soil that that's excellent for you know, for casting prints. But man, 657 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:45.280 up here it's rocks and leaves and everything else. And if we're lucky, 658 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:50.760 we might get some mud, you know. But yeah, unluck there's 659 00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.679 along a river bank or something, right, yes, yet, Yeah, 660 00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:58.000 but we were looking at those two like yesterday, we didn't really rule out 661 00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:02.119 anything that there. There wasn't a visual place that we didn't try to at 662 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:08.000 least go somewhere and look for some sort of evidence or some sort of It 663 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:12.239 was a really good day. It was a great day of discovery and exploration, 664 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.800 and we really had a besides the you know, the friendship and the 665 00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:20.480 you know camaraderie, which is always a good time, you know, just 666 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:24.239 being out there and exploring this place was really cool. And we've got i 667 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:28.760 mean without I don't want to give away too much, but Matt and I 668 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.159 got some pretty big projects coming along that this area is going to be our 669 00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:37.480 focal point for said projects. And I'm very pleased with what we got yesterday. 670 00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.440 I really am. And Baker, you've been there so Bake, you 671 00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:45.719 know this place you guys make one valid point as though as you went in 672 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:52.760 to look for evidence of signs of things you didn't do. And we've had 673 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:57.599 this, I've had this rant many times about the circlers and the other things. 674 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:01.000 Is but like you didn't walk into the wan to go this must be 675 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:08.360 a bigfoot track. Okay, I have a track. Okay, what is 676 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.119 it? Okay, well, Mac goes, it's gonna be that much weight 677 00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.280 because look how it presses. You use science and trigonometry and all stuff in 678 00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:19.440 math, all the things that people said you'd never use every day, but 679 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.639 you do. You don't notice it, and you used all those to beverifyd 680 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:27.039 down to Okay, I've got it down to it's not a deer, but 681 00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.719 it's not an elk. It's got a wave of a bear. The way 682 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.119 the gate is, it could be a bear. Without seeing the bear. 683 00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:42.159 You're seventy five percent sure it's a bear, and you're one hundred percent sure 684 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:46.320 is not a saucequatch because you're using math and science instead of it's got to 685 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:52.000 be a sausquatch. Correct. And that's where that's where me and Schohn have 686 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:59.400 always been on that same page of let's figure out what it isn't and narrow 687 00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:04.079 down what could be. Well, somebody well in and go, yeah, 688 00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.639 that's a prayer, that's going to be it. Let's go cast that sucker, 689 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:09.000 go sell them for fifty bucks piece. No, if you were with 690 00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:14.000 us yesterday, I think you would have appreciated the amount of humor. Yes, 691 00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.800 and I put into that very thing you're talking about, because we ran 692 00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:22.840 into this tree fall, made a perfect ex formation. We took some photos 693 00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:28.000 with it to be smart, but like it. To the conversation we were 694 00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.400 having, Matt was saying, like, to somebody who's a romantic, this 695 00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:35.719 is here's a tree fall, this is perfect tree book, right, And 696 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.960 so we had to go through and take our pictures and just kind of do 697 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.400 our due diligence and have a little fun with it. But in doing so, 698 00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:46.559 you know, like you said, Baker, we really try to use 699 00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:52.320 the science based approach to what we're doing. Eliminate the possibilities and the potentialities 700 00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.599 of what it could be or what it can't be, and nine times out 701 00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:58.760 of ten you're going to drive to the right answer. I don't think there's 702 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.800 any question you say seventy I think, Matt and I tell you, we're 703 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:06.840 one hundred percent there. So I was just guesstimating with the existence. But 704 00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:09.719 like you didn't like to sit there and take fourteen pictures in the circle listening 705 00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:14.039 where it must have. You know. It's kind of like when we went 706 00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.880 we first came on the mind land. We had a formation and you could 707 00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:21.199 see where the two trees were growing and the other trees. The wind blew 708 00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:24.400 over and made the formation. But like we had the same conversation in a 709 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:31.159 bar after an Ohio Bickfoot conference. And this gentleman as Barrickman, isn't it 710 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.320 he was he was talking to Cliff Barrickman. He wasn't talking to Cliff. 711 00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.519 He was preaching the Cliff, like Marco, this has gotta be. And 712 00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:45.159 Cliff said, the one thing that it's stuck in my head more than anything 713 00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.480 else is he goes, you can't prove it's a bigfoot unless you saw him 714 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.440 do it. Then he may have said more eloquently, but that was the 715 00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:58.159 core, you know. And I'm amazed I remembered anything him that night because 716 00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:02.480 that Cargill was huge. Well, like it's this guy was not like saying 717 00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:06.760 this could be a big for this. He was preaching, like if you 718 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:09.519 if you were across the room, you could hear this gentleman, and then 719 00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.800 like it blew silent. When Cliff said that, everybody was like, yeah, 720 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.559 just shut up, dude, because like you, if you didn't see 721 00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:22.239 him do it, it doesn't it's not a it's not this, you know. 722 00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.880 Like I go out to my land, I know there's been deer all 723 00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:30.599 over my pumpkin patch because I see pellets and I see footprints. I'm ninety 724 00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:35.440 deer, you know. But until I see the gear that made the pellets 725 00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:37.559 and made for I can't pick which one it was, or I can't be 726 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:42.199 on to prevent you know. By the way, later on that night, 727 00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:46.960 I found James Baker face down in a fire pit and we called him Cinderella. 728 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:54.599 Yeah, Henry, we've all monopolized this hour. You have any thoughts 729 00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:59.519 Do you have any thoughts for us, Henry tonight and everything we've talked about 730 00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.760 to get you a little sound piece on here because we've been greedy, sorry, 731 00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:08.039 Henry, mm hmm. It's good that you guys did the due diligence 732 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:21.960 and maybe said that that no it you eliminated everything. You literally all the 733 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:30.199 possibilities bigfoot last. That's what you guys put it is. It was big 734 00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:37.280 How much time do you think could be saved if people would adopt that philosophy? 735 00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:47.760 Oh my gosh, A lot of the time arguments said that comment last. 736 00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.599 I really like that. That's the first time I've heard that, and 737 00:57:52.719 --> 00:58:02.239 really like analogy. I like that. That's awesome when it comes to evidence, 738 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:07.039 it's bigfoot last, bigfoot last. I like that. Folks, you've 739 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.400 been listening to the Sasquatch experience. I'm Sean Forker. You can find me 740 00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:15.559 everywhere on social media. I'm my name at Sean Forker, Vance working. 741 00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.920 Folks find you. They can find me wherever. They can find me right 742 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:25.480 here in my living room, but on Instagram and on Facebook Vance a nezvit. 743 00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:30.119 So yeah, I'm pretty easy to find and the A stance for asshole 744 00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:36.760 Matt work and yes, find you Matt Mickey Arner on Facebook, Cryptic Wilderness 745 00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:43.440 and on uh basically Facebook and sometimes on Twitter. And we do have a 746 00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:47.800 new project that'll be coming out soon, so I'll keep you posting. Stay 747 00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:52.119 tuned for more. James. Why don't you take books? I can find 748 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.440 you if you want them to Well, if you're not at the post office, 749 00:58:54.599 --> 00:59:00.800 you can always check. You can James next Facebook, or you can 750 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:05.719 try. I have a new project I've been working on for a whiles Lot 751 00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.639 five six to land. It comes to stuff I've been doing on the site. 752 00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:14.440 Hendrick, Henry shush and is girl Henry go ahead? Tell them where 753 00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:20.320 folks can find you, Henry May on Facebook. Connect with us, Folks. 754 00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.079 We're socially active and we want to be involved with you again. You 755 00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:29.119 can find us on our social media Sasquatchexperience dot com, Facebook dot com forwards 756 00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:36.320 last Slasquatch Experience, Sasquatch Experienced on Instagram and squatch exp on x formerly Twitter, 757 00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:38.119 and folks, we want to thank you for listening. Henry take us 758 00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:43.400 out with those dulcet tones. You'all be good or be good at it. 759 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:53.199 We'll see you next week. Folks. Keep on squatching. You've been listening 760 00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:59.119 to Sasquatch Experience. Please rate interview where this podcast is being consumed. To 761 00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:02.519 share your experience, visit us on Facebook, our website, or email us 762 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:07.519 info at Sasquatch Experience dot com. Keep on Squatching,