WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:07.559 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:14.279 fourteen fifteen Howard by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions Katz 3 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:18.839 R two Son and iHeart Radio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. 4 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.600 Welcome to Why on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 5 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:26.320 Rivera. Jay is up today on the road. I have a guest toast 6 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:29.000 today, one of my great sponsored guys, Andy Brown. How are you 7 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:33.200 any great happy Friday having me today? Thanks for bringing in the cool air. 8 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:37.079 It's only better hit me out of heat, you guys. The ice 9 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:40.399 spots we're gonna do. I put it to seventy two just to make everybody 10 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:44.200 happy. Sixty to sixty eight not available. I don't want to freeze, 11 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.600 man, I don't want to freeze. We got a guy Jason with us 12 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:49.479 today. Thank you Jason for coming in or otherwise this thing would not be 13 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:52.960 happy. Yeah, I'll have to get to today. We're gonna have white. 14 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:55.600 I like having you Andy because we get to a lot of different things. 15 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:59.159 Yeah, you have a pretty even kill perspective on a few things, 16 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.239 and as well you will know PAC twelve Media what day. Today was today 17 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.879 and today was that continuing in Vegas, Yeah, and Arizona went about ten 18 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:15.079 thirty with with with jet Fish of course and Jade Delora and Stukes. So 19 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:19.159 a lot of the things said on the podium, I'm sure more was said 20 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:23.719 behind the scenes when they got to get their one on ones. I haven't 21 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.439 seen much of that as as some of the reporters are out there. But 22 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.079 of course let's start at the be top, just involving the Pact twelve. 23 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.040 No news is good news or no news is bad news, no news on 24 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:38.560 any media media. Yeah, yeah, he says he kind of misspoke. 25 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:41.480 Play of cop said did you kind of listen to us where he said, 26 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:44.200 we'd be telling you, but it suited And then they said, oh, 27 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:48.480 you look too much into it. If sometime's worth leaking, it would be 28 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:52.200 leak. Sure right, they have nothing. They have nothing. And he 29 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:53.760 didn't mean to say what he said, and he surely not the way he 30 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:59.159 said it, because one of our guys we have on the show every now 31 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:02.519 and again from Oregon came back and asked him, did you mean to say 32 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:07.359 that you have it, but you're talking about it because you want the concert? 33 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:08.680 No, we're not, we don't have it yet. And then he 34 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:12.680 says, the longer we wait, the better deal we're gonna get it. 35 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.400 That's kind of like marriage. The longer I wait, the prettier the girl 36 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:19.960 that's gonna come Fay straight from Vegas right there. The more money I put 37 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:23.680 in this machine, the chances I haven't read no, because if they had 38 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.680 a deal, guess what they would do. And they post it, tell 39 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.240 it, tell it, they tell her why not? Right? I saw 40 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.400 he's gonna be all it's gonna be really good. People have been patient, 41 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:37.360 are gonna be And I'm like, okay, so I know where I know 42 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:38.960 where I stand. Jason kind of are on the same page. Yeah, 43 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:42.360 when they tell us, they tell us right exactly. We're not gonna lose 44 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:46.319 any sleep over it. And Jay has been anxiously anxiously waiting for it, 45 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.120 but now he's kind of more to our side. Yeah, right, whatever 46 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:53.120 happens, that happens, where do you sit? Well, you kind of 47 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:57.240 need it's kin, you need to have that deal done, and but you 48 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.680 also need to know who's replacing the two teams that right, and you can't 49 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:02.280 are we leaving anybody? Are we losing anybody else? And you can't have 50 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:06.280 one without the other, right, and the TV deals first comes first, 51 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.159 the chicken or the egg. Well, the egg ain't coming to the chicken 52 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:12.639 cut? And which ones come first? Right? I get it, um, 53 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.280 But you have to have one before the other, and the first one. 54 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:19.240 They're not sane, they're not safe because they don't have anything like I 55 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:21.919 don't. You can't have a deal if you don't have a full allotment of 56 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:23.919 teams going into twenty twenty. Sure, I'm going to the problem next week. 57 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.919 I just don't know who's going, right, But I bought two tickets. 58 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.680 Who've had two tickets? I might go by myself, and it's likely 59 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:37.840 I'll go by myself. Memories. That frustrating. I mean, I like 60 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.479 to watch back to all sports when i'm you know, not working, but 61 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:44.199 I can't get them on TV. I can't get on YouTube, I can't 62 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:49.759 get on the right. That's frustrating. Sure, sure we should. Well 63 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.080 we've been saying this for a year. We should find it out sometime soon. 64 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.479 And they keep premising the probably saying without Carroty, you don't worry, 65 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:58.240 you'll get it. You'll get it, you know. And and when they 66 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.439 get it, they get it. We'll see what happens. But a big 67 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:04.319 day and obviously the big news out of Arizona is uh or was that Jaden 68 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:11.159 Delora spoke about his alleged incident as a high school student. Uh. Uh 69 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:15.279 you know, a sexual situation, uh, which was unfortunate back then and 70 00:04:15.279 --> 00:04:18.680 then continues to be very six years. That's a very serious situation on both 71 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:24.240 sides for all parties, right right, very Den and jet Fish I talked 72 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:27.199 about it too, So both of them talked about it. Uh. They 73 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.120 were asked and they answered, I think we have some clips. It might 74 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:33.319 take a little while. Let's go with Jed first because it kind of sets 75 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:59.399 things up the years of season. Um we were situation and what we learned 76 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:04.680 is that Jada never played guilty, was never found gabilty in any crimes. 77 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:10.920 Um. And really for us, um that that's what we could move off 78 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:15.319 of, and that's what we could understand. That we can't make decisions or 79 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:21.800 it would be unfair to make decisions based upon information we don't have, and 80 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:27.560 there is no information. There won't be any information that is available under the 81 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:32.759 light law. Everything sealed and expunged, so there really is nothing for us 82 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:36.920 to learn and what we can ask words for Jaden m and theday be the 83 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:42.920 best possibility to need to meet for us. Um our culture is very important 84 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:47.079 as I mentioned, and um all we can do is listen to the people 85 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:50.360 that knew him the best, that knew the most amount of information. And 86 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:55.480 when he and I and his family golf found out about this lawsuit in September, 87 00:05:56.120 --> 00:06:00.639 our university active is good as possible. Kind of explaining his side of 88 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:05.600 it, it was more more of the win Arizone on you about it and 89 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:09.680 and what they decided to do with it. Obviously he's still on the team. 90 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:15.560 They took that action and because everything's shut down at toy level, at 91 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:20.759 the at the youth level, you can't get to the facts. And then 92 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:25.560 Jayden talked about it shortly after. Let's get to that and then we could 93 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:30.120 talk more about it. We're back at Pactuel Football media day in Las Vegas 94 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.240 with some Arizona Wildcats and we were just talking to coach Fish. I know 95 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.319 there's a lot of excitement around this team. Yeah, yeah, they are 96 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:41.639 fellas good to see you trading Stuke's former walk on now team captain. On 97 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:44.480 the defensive side, it's amazing Jane Delora. Jane, I want to start 98 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:47.399 with you. A lot of dialogue around you off the field this offseason. 99 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:50.600 You have not addressed that yet. Would you like to address that now? 100 00:06:53.079 --> 00:07:00.639 Yeah, I kind of wrote out something, kind of been really thinking about 101 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.079 this since everything came out, so put the bike up a little closer. 102 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:09.920 UM. So I want to start off by saying, I understand importance is 103 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:15.120 a question that's been asked over these times, as well as the fact that 104 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:20.120 as journalists and everything, everybody has a job to do. But just believe 105 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:26.160 me that there's nothing I would like to do but clear my name if I 106 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:34.759 could defend myself from what's being written. However, and I hope you understand 107 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:42.480 that I'm bombed by the law to not discuss this matter at all, and 108 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:47.279 I just do not intend to break the law. What I can say today 109 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:54.480 is that I'm grateful for the University of Arizona for setting the facts in this 110 00:07:54.800 --> 00:08:00.319 matter and allowing me to continue my education as a student athlete. I would 111 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:07.279 also like to thank UM Thomas Sataki and Philip Miyoshi UM for correcting the misinformation 112 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:13.560 that's been reported UM that stated that I played guilty or was convicted as actually 113 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:20.959 assault, which is what was written. UM, and its privileged to be 114 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.240 the quarterback at the University of Arizona. UM. I want to show the 115 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:31.160 Wildcat community that I'll continue to be responsible and respectful leader on the field and 116 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.799 the classroom and in life. And with that being said, I kind of 117 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.840 would like to turn our focus to football now. So part of the problem 118 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.200 of the whole story, Uh, it was what's been written, what's been 119 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:50.600 said. Apparently many people have written that he pled guilty to to the sexual 120 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:56.799 assault but was not given the jail sentence, and he has denied it through 121 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:01.320 his attorneys have denied it, and so no one knows the facts. And 122 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.080 well a lot of people know the facts. The thing is sealed. It's 123 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:07.600 it's sealed, so no one to know the real story publicly. UM. 124 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:13.679 And and you know, and Arizona is backing him because nothing was done of 125 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:20.039 civilly or um criminally. Sorry, thank you. The recourse was a civil 126 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.320 How how you know you're a former student, Uh, you're now an Alam 127 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:30.360 You're a huge Arizona fan. How does that sit with you? It's a 128 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:33.799 tough situation all around. I think, UM, you have to respect the 129 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.600 law, and you have to respect the process. Yeah, so I hate 130 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.440 when people jump to conclusions and jump the system and not let it play out. 131 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.639 But also it's it's an emotional topic, not something you you can easily 132 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.360 take emotion out of. So I get the part from both sides, right, 133 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.960 Um, I would just hope that both sides allow the law to work. 134 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:58.919 It's supposed to go right, right, So well, yeah, we'll 135 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.519 see, We'll see what happens. I think. I think one of the 136 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.279 questions, I don't know if I would have asked this, but I would 137 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.240 have asked him privately on the side, not in the in the forum that 138 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.879 it was. But they asked him about him being a human being and how 139 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.559 it's taking its toll or kind of like that, and he kind of broke 140 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.840 down. He started he started to uh, not sob but you know, 141 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.919 tear up and talk about his family, how it was important to them that 142 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:24.000 they were safe and things like that. Exactly wouldn't you, which is obvious 143 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.840 and it would make me tear up as well. Um, And that's a 144 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.679 big deal. And I've said this with Jay on the show. How is 145 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.840 it going to affect him as serious as it is in the day to day 146 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.679 and as you play, because you're not going to get friendly voices. Oh 147 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.360 there's two sides of it too. There's you know, your focus gets a 148 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:48.480 little bit. I think when you have outside um distractions, sometimes good players 149 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.919 focus inward and focus in on the on their craft, right, great point. 150 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:54.600 Yeah, so I've seen it both ways. I've seen it tear people 151 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:58.480 apart. So it's a matter of how he's made it up and how it's 152 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:03.240 gonna yeah. Yeah. And it's a support system, yes, And it's 153 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.159 the biggest one people around you that a lot of you are supporting you and 154 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.919 are telling you the things you need to hear. You're good. But if 155 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.360 those people are not telling you what you need to hear, you're going to 156 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:15.879 fall apart. Yeah, you need that support system, sure, right, 157 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.399 No, it just sounds like and coming from Hawaii that is a huge family 158 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:24.840 based culture, right, So he's gonna have that, right, But yeah, 159 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.320 it's gonna it's gonna affect his focus at some point because you know what's 160 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.440 going to give it to him the most. Yeah, opposing fans, Right, 161 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.720 He's gonna get that everywhere he goes. So, and it's not gonna 162 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.639 be pretty, no, no, no, so so we'll see what happens. 163 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.480 Unfortunate situation, but it was something that you know that Canada's finally over 164 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.320 at least with the questions and the answers, and now we can move on 165 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:52.080 and we can move on and whatever happens from from that, we'll see. 166 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.200 We'll see you or not see what comes of it. Okay, Um, 167 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.080 so they're picked eighth in the league. We talked about this with Jason and 168 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:03.440 Jay. Eighth. That's I think that's fair. That's fair. I think 169 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.960 it gives Jed something to push for, you know, to kind of have 170 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.360 that chip on his shoulder. I think, yeah, And I think I 171 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.120 read that what he said he was we liked to be under dog. We 172 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:15.879 want to go into this season people underestimating us so we can surprise it, 173 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.759 right. And he did say that this was the best team he's had here. 174 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.200 I think that's obvious. In fact, I think it's the best team 175 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.200 he's had everyone has had here in five six years. I mean, there 176 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:33.320 are those teams that someone had were just absolutely horrible. It's almost cust and 177 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.120 that's pretty Yeah, there's my proof your honor. Yeah. That and Jed 178 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:41.080 didn't have it easy for the first two because of the previous situation with the 179 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.559 players are getting bigger, stronger, faster. Uh. The thing The thing 180 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.600 about it, just um, Andy, and you were a former an athlete. 181 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:50.960 You saw this. Well, you're getting better. So are other teams. 182 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.120 Sure, as you know back in the day when you had Damon and 183 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.759 Palid, I'm sure. I'm sure somewhere in your guy's minds as a team, 184 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.840 I thought you were the best team college basketball that year. Absolutely, 185 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.799 then all of a sudden Arkansas showed up. Always bring that up. But 186 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:09.000 my point, my point is you could be the toughest dude on your block. 187 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.039 You know, I bypass Arkansas anytime I go to the East coast, 188 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.279 just drive right around it. I'll go four states. Take a charge, 189 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.559 man, take a charge down there. Take a charge. You want to 190 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:20.879 go to Favorte Bill Again. I watched that the other day. That forty 191 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.720 minutes the hell or whatever it is, that's thirty for thirty. Yeah, 192 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:30.960 I just created watching it. But but that's that's my point is everybody's getting 193 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.519 better. But but everyone's getting better, but so are other teams. Sure, 194 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.440 But I also like how Jed's doing it through high school players, Like 195 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.759 that's his whole recruiting philosophy goes, I'm gonna build it through the high school 196 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:46.799 kids up and develop them. Yeah, but I'm gonna use the transfer portal 197 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.519 to field gaps. I'm not gonna live on it. I'm gonna field gas 198 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.759 when they need to do. When you go, do you go to two 199 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:56.799 games to you don't work? You don't work it football games. I'm up 200 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:00.000 there working yet. Oh you aren't working? Are you able to watch? 201 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.200 Watch right down the road from you? You're in the okay, oh, 202 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.519 in the same sweet sat Mary, you watching games? Are you kind of 203 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:09.679 just ushering people through? Oh? No, I'm in the incident command. 204 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.840 So I'm up there with all their different jurisdictions. Okay, we're making sure 205 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.720 people are doing what they're supposed to do up there. Okay, okay, 206 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.200 good to know that your media food and it's really good. No, what's 207 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.360 hot dog? Yeah? Great? Yeah? Then you're working it off right, 208 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:28.360 barbecue saucy day. 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Sen with me today as guest hosts 279 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:45.359 Andy Brown and now on the phone, former Ulevate football player Heat Pray. 280 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.440 How are you heat hey? Steve? How are you doing, buddy? 281 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:51.680 We're doing okay? Big day to day pack twelve football. Did you pay 282 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:56.400 attention to what was going on? I paid attention yesterday to the rankings and 283 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:04.319 the thing ranked eight but anything better than that happened today of these our cat 284 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.240 Now I'm being serious because I actually have worked all day to day, so 285 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:11.160 I haven't gotten a chance to do my review of the day's events. Okay, 286 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.799 so we'll talk about what happened today in a second. Let's talk more 287 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:22.759 about the poll. Sit well with you or not? It does? I 288 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.200 remember, Stephen, you and I've known each other long enough to know that 289 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:26.880 when I was playing, we would get picked. You know, we had 290 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:30.400 ten teams, we get picked eighth nights, and we come back and had 291 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:36.440 I think we had the winnings program during the ten year period from eighty five 292 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:38.039 to ninety five, you know, the second Winn's program in the pack. 293 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:41.759 So it doesn't bother me as much. I don't think we've done anything to 294 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:47.599 really earn a higher seed than that. Um. I think that they're doing 295 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.160 a phenomenal job of recruiting, and I do believe it we're going to finish 296 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.160 higher night. But it also doesn't put yourminus amount of pressure on you. 297 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.640 I kind of like being a little bit of the the you know, underestimated 298 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:00.839 over delivered type stance. Yeah, well, how do you feel about it? 299 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:03.559 Let me ask you which they're on you. I think it's accurate. 300 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.680 I think it's it's about right. But I was gonna ask you too, 301 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.960 Um, so you played under dictomy a very straightforward dude, not very high, 302 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.119 not very low. What would you what, well, how would you 303 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.759 think that he would take the jet fish era as it stands right now? 304 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.799 Well, I tell you, I think that he's gonna what. The first 305 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.000 thing he's gonna do is he's gonna say, but hell together a health staff. 306 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.799 Um. And that is one of the biggest things that coaches get measured 307 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:34.000 by who is who is the twelve to fifteen guys they have a underneath them. 308 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:37.559 I think Jed has done a phenomenal job of that. I do believe 309 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:44.839 that he is um, more of a kind of sales he kind of recruiting 310 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:48.079 kind of guy than coach tell me was um And I don't and I'm not 311 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:51.839 saying that as negative. It is just a difference in style. I do 312 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:56.200 believe that they are They're they're vastly different, um, but I do believe 313 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:00.640 they're both men of high integrity and at the becquit more and more rare these 314 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.079 days, Steve, they really are, Yeah, that kind of guy I 315 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:07.759 agree with you, we'll see what We'll see what happens. Um. Um, 316 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:10.920 It's okay. So now to the biggest news of the day, obviously 317 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.559 the Dolores situation. And what do you make of that being a former player, 318 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.440 Uh, I don't think there was a few incidences that happened when you 319 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:22.640 were a student athlete year, but I go to this degree, I don't 320 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:25.759 think. How is it when you're a teammate of a guy like that. 321 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.119 Well, what happens is is that there's a lot of times you don't know 322 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.400 what's going on. Um. We had some guys that had um some issues 323 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.519 with fighting. UM. And it was about four or five guys my freshman 324 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.559 year. And I don't want to bring up the guy's names and throw them 325 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.720 out of the bus. They were there were some guys that could remove from 326 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:48.880 the team permanently, about three guys. One went to Utah, one went 327 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.119 to Memphis. One ever, I don't think ever played again. Um. 328 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:56.400 And the thing is is that you Steve. It's like anything else. If 329 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.519 you're hanging around somebody that's doing some knuckleheads stuff like that, and if you 330 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.640 start acting like some of the accusations that we're hearing about some of the other 331 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:07.160 guys. As far as some of the the abuse stuff. I mean, 332 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:11.240 you gotta get you gotta get the hell away from those guys or get them 333 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.680 the hell out your team. M And I'll tell you that's something that get 334 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:21.000 his uniform with guys that really care, they will make those they will make 335 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:23.599 those lock rooms very uncomfortable for people like that. It's funny you bring that 336 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.440 up, and I have Andy Brown with me. I don't know if you 337 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.160 know Andy from just after you left. He played for the U A basketball 338 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.440 team. So so right, Northwestern's being investigative. Everyone talks about that saying 339 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:38.960 and some of the lawyers say that it's uh, it's pervasive or throughout the 340 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:44.720 college situation. How difficult. Okay, so let's say it's that's what it 341 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:48.839 is or isn't. But let's seep just for the singles that how difficult would 342 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.039 it be You have your friends and your colleagues under the same team who are 343 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.920 knuckleheads to say I'm not for ready guys. You know, I know you 344 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.480 can easily say it now because we're not in part of it, but at 345 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.480 the time when you're in it, it's like, how do I fix this? 346 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:04.839 Well, I'll tell you what coach Toldy did with us. He said, 347 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:08.799 listen, I don't you guys have got to have police yourself. And 348 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.000 he says, I'm gonna have it. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell to you 349 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:15.079 right now, I'm you guys fix this. And he got the whole staff 350 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:17.799 and they walked out of the room and the next thing we know, there's 351 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:19.079 one hundred and twenty guys sitting in a room look at each other going, 352 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:23.880 huh, did you hea't got to have a conversation about this? Did you 353 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:27.000 have a natural leader that kind of stepped up in that situation on your squatter? 354 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:30.480 Was there always a guy that everybody looked to? You know, it's 355 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.160 funny you say that, because there are some guys, and usually it's the 356 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.640 guys that don't speak up very often they get the most amount of respect. 357 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.039 Um. There's always gonna be some guys that are um, that are that 358 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:45.359 are looked upon to be in the leadership positions that you know you automatically like, 359 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.799 for example, when that happened, I was a freshman. If that 360 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.759 would have happened when I was a senior, I would have been one of 361 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:55.039 the guys that they looked looked. You know, the eyes in the room 362 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:59.799 shift to um. But my eyes shifted too to some of the seniors that 363 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:02.920 we had. You know, obviously the Singleton Brothers were huge at the time. 364 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.079 Joe Toppemeyer was huge. I mean those guys we wanted, we wanted 365 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.160 some some leadership from the top down, and those guys were you know, 366 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:14.160 that's just something that that football is a different game than a lot of people 367 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:18.279 under estimate when they when he compared to other sports, because it is. 368 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:22.680 It is about as close to a meritocracy as you can get. And it's 369 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.400 a big group. And it's a big group. Yeah, And it's a 370 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:27.839 big group. And there are some alpha males in that room that have earned 371 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:30.920 every bit of respect they get. And if you do not give them the 372 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.799 respect you they deserve, trust me, they will get it from you one 373 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:38.720 way or another. Yeah. No, that's a good point. And you're 374 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:44.400 not gonna do anything if you're not one of those dudes and you go against 375 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:47.759 good luck with that. Well, I'll tell you what. The real dummies 376 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:51.160 are the ones that speak up that don't have any any of the any of 377 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:52.759 the respect in the room. And those are the gay most of the time. 378 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.880 You even if you're a talkative guy, when things like that happening, 379 00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:59.599 you've got to go to the leaders. You keep your mouth shut and you 380 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:02.960 listen. Yeah, yeah, makes sense, totally makes sense. That was 381 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:07.400 clin on our team. It was because when I were in college and he 382 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.799 was just soft spoken, and you know, if he got angry, I 383 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.359 mean, it should happened a couple times in games. If he gets angry, 384 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.599 I mean you could tell he's got it. He's got a depth to 385 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.799 him that that just does not automatically come out, you know, in an 386 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.000 obvious fashion. I love that about him. So did it happen a couple 387 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:27.519 of times? A couple of times? H You just say, there was 388 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.200 all of a sudden and Clint like, oh Clid spoke. Everybody just shut 389 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:34.440 up. Yeah, everybody the bus just got quiet, and it was like, 390 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:41.079 oh, coligious and it has meaning. So okay, that was it. 391 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.119 Yeah, Michigan forty goodness there still shut up a couple of times on 392 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:52.519 the bush the back of the bus. Yeah, shut up. Do you 393 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.680 miss those days, Heath, I'm sure you do well. The days as 394 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:00.559 far as locker room, the days of playing in the locker room, Well, 395 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.400 the thing is is that obviously football is a game you can't really play 396 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.519 as you get older. I mean, I've got fifty year old friends who 397 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.039 still playing pick up basketball, and I've got you know, coach Tony played 398 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.640 baseball until he's in his sixties, which you can't do that with football really, 399 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.440 So you do miss the game itself. But I will tell you to 400 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:19.880 a man, if there's anybody and that disagrees with me and this, and 401 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:23.599 they're not the same kind of guy I am. You missed the locker room. 402 00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.119 You miss that more than you miss you miss any of the attention, 403 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:33.440 any of the media, the you know at tension from the fair sex you 404 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:38.079 know on Saturdays that you get from from the young ladies and stuff like that, 405 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:42.279 But none of that matters in anywhere near comparison to the locker room. 406 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:48.400 The buddies that you have, and I mean even the bad things to happen 407 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:51.680 in the locker room stay in the locker room and the camaraderie and that those 408 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:56.440 are the things that you don't You're lucky if you get to experience them again 409 00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.279 in your lifetime. Yeah, well you've had a chance, Well do you, 410 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.279 guys? Unions and things like that. I think you guys had one 411 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:07.319 here next week, don't you. I you talk, you talking to me? 412 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.279 Yea, we've got well, I don't think we have a reunion. 413 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.839 We have a I'm going up to play in a golf tournament with Fish and 414 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:21.200 some of the staff and rich Tony and some of the old teammates of mine. 415 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:23.440 I thought it was a reunion. Maybe it's a get together or something 416 00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.240 like that or it. Yeah, there's a PCA thing that I'm going to 417 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:33.160 up at the rim and pace and on the twenty seventh. Okay, well 418 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.960 next week, and that's gonna be rich Tomey and coach Fish and I think 419 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.000 davek is gonna be up there, and um a bunch of teammates and stuff. 420 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.079 Nick tell me, guys, so when you get together, and I 421 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.440 was as this of Vandy two from time to time, I'm sure the the 422 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:52.000 five yard touchdown turns into a fifteen yard touchdown, and the stories, the 423 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.759 stories getting a little well, let me tell you right now, it only 424 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.640 turns into a fifteen yard touchdown if none of your other teammates are around you, 425 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.519 if you're telling it to strangers, Because if you tell it in front 426 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.960 of your teammates. Your teammates will cut you off at the knees immediately if 427 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:15.119 you try to embellish anything. Trust me, they will not let you get 428 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.680 away with that. Oh man, I'll tell you that that's one of the 429 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:21.960 things too, that their teammates that there's anybody who's gonna hold you in check 430 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.519 and beat you the humble pie you need. Sometimes it's your teammates. If 431 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.000 you come down and watch a couple of games every year, I know, 432 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.880 I think that's true. What do you expect to share outside of them finishing 433 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.160 eighth historically and you know this, there is when it finds ways to beat 434 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.880 teams and then sometimes somewhere they get beat by teams that shouldn't lose. To 435 00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.559 man, well, I think that one of the things that helps us avoid 436 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.640 that um of you know, recent times a lot of times is because when 437 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:53.119 you have a more dynamic offense, you you're able to kind of make it 438 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.759 a little bit more consistent and say it's what I've I've found. I think 439 00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:02.559 that they've got some some very good consistency they brought to the offensive side of 440 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.759 the ball. So I think that'll that'll that'll bring some level of consistency. 441 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.960 Hopefully now hopefully I'm not wrong, but that's I think that's the way I 442 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:11.920 see it. Yeah, yeah, no, I think Tomer Lloyd does the 443 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.839 same thing. We score a lot of points to give us some leeway, 444 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.000 so they won't you go, if we're playing bad case we're missing uh tackles 445 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.759 on defense, or in case that running back is not buying the holes, 446 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.640 or there the offensive line time and a tough time, or they're they're nailing 447 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.039 a couple of calls on defense. If you get it, if you get 448 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.359 able to get out and get get some buffer, it allows you to stomach 449 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.160 thoes when you're playing you know, one two three point ball games like we 450 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.279 did back in the day. You missed, you missed an assignment a guy. 451 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.920 I mean, shoot, Steve, we lost in Miami and the Orange 452 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.559 Ball eight to seven. We lost the Arizona State seven to six. I 453 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:51.640 mean, you know, I think, right, you can't you can't know, 454 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:53.319 you can't make a single mistake if you're only winning one point ball, 455 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.920 yeah, I'll play. Or two costs you a game or two? Yeah, 456 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.480 no question, no question. So Jet something to said something that kind 457 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.839 of struck me. In order to recruit he says, especially what happened with 458 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.720 the previous coach is in order to recruit some defensive players, some good ones, 459 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.480 he had to build the offense so that they knew they'd be playing for 460 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.240 a good team because at least they knew that they would have a team that 461 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.160 would score, that they wouldn't have to be played defense all the time. 462 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.000 Makes sense, Well, it does make sense, and I'm witnessing it right 463 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.240 now with some of the high school stuff I'm seeing going on because you know, 464 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.319 it started back with Kurt Flood with free agency, and then the portal 465 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.880 thing hit over with the colleges and now high schools they're following the transfer model. 466 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.519 And coach tell me was a developmental model guy. He very rarely went 467 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.039 to duco. He was a guy that wanted to develop guys within a system. 468 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.559 Nowadays, why develop a guy for three years when you go five minutes 469 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.759 and get one off the portals. That's happening in the high school and I'm 470 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.359 seeing it now. To your point, we have on my son's football team, 471 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:57.279 we have eight wide receivers that could start for anybody. And the reason 472 00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.920 we have eight is because they've got a guy in the pocket. They can 473 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:06.920 throw it to them. And it is a it is a system that they're 474 00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.279 buying into. It is a situation where I'm if I go to this school, 475 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.839 I'm going to get the ball thrown to me. There's nothing worse than 476 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:17.359 being a receiver on a team that does not throw the ball. Does that 477 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.839 guy who throws happened to be your son? I was not going to go 478 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.599 there, but yet it does. And I'm very proud of the quarterback. 479 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:29.799 He has fled into No. No, I know you're on another show tomorrow. 480 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:34.200 What what are his chances of going somewhere? Um, well, we 481 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.480 got to get his great up. He's uh he uh didn't get to play 482 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:39.880 very much last year. We had a very good quarterback that he had wont 483 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:45.279 to stay championship for a sorrow as a returner. He ended up at New 484 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:50.079 Mexico and uh. During that time, Mason, let's just say he did 485 00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.319 not take his academics very serious. So we've got to get those straight. 486 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:59.039 If but if they are good. To see guy's limits, um, and 487 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:00.240 I mean when I say this, guys, I mean, this guy's the 488 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:06.799 limit. I've seen the I've seen the photos and the the the clips of 489 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.839 him. I know he's very good. In fact, did you play with 490 00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:13.960 Joe Schmigel? I did? His son's in the same realm. You guys 491 00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.000 have great kids who can play. We I've been out to Show's house in 492 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.720 the last two years. I've been out in his house four or five times. 493 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.240 He's been out here. Um, Brady and and Bow and Mason have 494 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:29.799 all hung out together. They they're very, very similar. Brady is the 495 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.160 quarterback, Bow's the receiver. For Smigel's kids, Brady's six foot five, 496 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:40.880 Mason's only six one. But Mason's grandfather. You may not know this is 497 00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.240 Larry Smith. Did not know that? No one did not know that, 498 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.279 did he? I know he's getting recruited by Notre Dame. Is that right? 499 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:51.440 Did he hasn't made the commo you? No, No, he's younger. 500 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.079 I mean, he's actually only about a year younger than Mason. But 501 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:58.799 he's he's a rising sophomore. Oh soccer as a junior. Okay, No, 502 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.279 he's young. He played a freshman last year, but he was a 503 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.519 sixteen year old freshman. Yeah. Well, every every dad wants his sudden 504 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.240 to be better than they were. Absolutely. Yeah, well I tell you 505 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.159 what we all say that until the day you look across the field and you 506 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.119 look, you recognize the fact that your son is better than you were. 507 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.199 That's why you don't get him on the quarter or anyway. Yeah, you 508 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.719 don't help him right away, but she certainly. You go back to the 509 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.039 car you put you you sit in the front see of the car before you 510 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.159 started up, and you're like, damn well you And he said, tell 511 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:28.480 them what you said. I had all girls. I was easy. Oh 512 00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:30.800 man, I'll tell you that that day I realized it. I'm there for 513 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.039 you, that I sat down. I was like that boys better than I 514 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.880 was. I don't believe I'm saying that. And he has having a girls 515 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.719 have your own issues with the girl. Imagine my mom says. My mom 516 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:44.199 says that she's starting to question her face. She said, if I was, 517 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:45.440 if there would have been a god up there, he'd have given me 518 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:52.320 girls because paybacks for what I did to her. Yeah. I always good 519 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.440 talking to you. We'll talk to you again as the season progressive. Yeah, 520 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.639 you got a body anytime. Thank you you get talking about this. 521 00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.559 Guys, have a great day. Peak brave former you a football player in 522 00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.480 the late eighties nineties. Let's take the break and come back talk more. 523 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.000 If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly 524 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:13.599 forty years. 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Hey, welcome back, 567 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:28.360 joining about hearing Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Andy 568 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:32.000 Brown, Sir James pushing on the butts over here, Jason's got Hey, 569 00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:37.280 I do man, you lost the space shibot exactly exactly. I'm not a 570 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:39.039 brain surgeon and I'm scientists. I can't do any of that, thank you. 571 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:44.199 Jason. Of course, come out a book. Okay, that's all 572 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.000 I got. Hey, he talked about academics. Not so much academics, 573 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:51.599 uh, in terms of being a student, the importance of that. I 574 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.639 still don't understand why. Kids and this is no knock on his son, 575 00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:59.159 but kids, they still need to know the importance of that. And even 576 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.320 when they're here. How difficult was it? And I'll ask Jason this too, 577 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:06.360 um to be a student to one student athlete one and a student at 578 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.960 the college level, I found it being a student athlete. I was a 579 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.559 guy who needed focus, I needed something to do. So were you a 580 00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:16.280 decent student? It was? I was an academic All American, so I 581 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:21.039 was four point zero. So you have that exam brought the GPA up? 582 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.360 And where did you study business? Business? Finance? Okay, finance degree, 583 00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:30.840 gotcha, Okay, so I needed that, so my downtime I would 584 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.280 do nothing. So when you probably needed too, though, when I schedule 585 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.320 was packed, I got I got things done right. But if I had 586 00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:42.599 an hour to slough off, guess what, well you you needed your downtime? 587 00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.599 How you your time? No, I can't, but you always I 588 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.480 always had to fill it with something. I mean it was if I don't 589 00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.119 have anything otherwise otherwise would do nothing. And back then they did they have 590 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.840 video games like the do today. Yeah not like today. No, No, 591 00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.679 I was, but you're not a video game dude. Okay, I 592 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:01.960 wanted to be in the gym. I was playing Basketball's what I want to 593 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.519 do? Yeah, how many times we finished practice, lift weights and then 594 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.239 go down the rec center and play so like claim to like take you out? 595 00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.119 And he went home and did homework and then you did it? So 596 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.679 so did you find it um for the other guys to have you guys haven't 597 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:21.599 made I could you guys have tutors? I don't tell you what. They 598 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.360 had some tutors back then, and it was right now they built a whole 599 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:27.679 thing across the way. Now it was a little as big as this room, 600 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.480 and I was there at two computers in the and the typewriter, I 601 00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.679 think. But there were some guys that were always in there that recognize it 602 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.000 and he need to be in there, and they were. And there were 603 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:38.519 other guys that Corey, that guy was brilliant. Yeah, but he's just 604 00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:45.159 a smart and they're Reggie smart guy. They're all I mean nowadays, if 605 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.960 you're not making the greatest because you don't want to just yeah you need to 606 00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.239 go to class. Just if you just show up and crack open a book 607 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:59.159 and the books. Would anybody want to not want to go to claud you 608 00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:01.480 fish, you get girls in you Jed fi sent is he's all about the 609 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:08.079 academics, right, he's recruiting. He wants gets that before we go there. 610 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:13.039 Cho to being a student, that's what is it difficult? No, 611 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.440 No, really, like you said, effort, You put the effort in, 612 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.480 you'll see the results. And there's so much help available. You know, 613 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:21.920 professors, you know other students, you know twuittoring and there's just so 614 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:22.800 many resources available. He's tweeting it. So I fel like, if you 615 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.039 just put the effort in, let's succeed, honestly, And there's no colleges 616 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:29.559 for anyway. Yeah, there's a lot of systems in place now to help 617 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.840 people with learning disabilities that even recognize that you didn't have one and you're like, 618 00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:36.119 oh, the oneer, I can't see the numbers, right. So 619 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.719 there's a lot more of that awareness now that I think even ten fifteen years 620 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.920 ago, thirty years when we say this, if you want to call in, 621 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.800 please do five two h four one six seventy four forty five two four 622 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:51.119 one six seventy for forty we'll take your call. We don't have a guest 623 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.039 in the next hour, but we can all be us about this type of 624 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:55.719 stuff. In the next hour. I can say, well, you know 625 00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.119 what I bought. I brought you something back from the final floor. Wait, 626 00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:00.760 wait, let's do that in a second. But okay, you're talking 627 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.920 about academics, yes, and what it means and I didn't know this. 628 00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.559 This is why Jed wants that three point zero student. When it comes down 629 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.039 to a five and seven team and there's open Bowl games available. Being on 630 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.840 the Arizonable Board of Directors, we had this issue come up. We're like, 631 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.480 well, we don't have enough teams to fill these spots. How do 632 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.039 we get our team. Will you go to a five and seven team and 633 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:28.440 they use an APR I believe it's called academic progress rate and it looks at 634 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:36.239 what school has a better academic score. So Rice has a normous amount of 635 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.079 heady guy Harvard, any of those guys, and only those teams that have 636 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:44.480 a really high bar set for the academics is going to get that five and 637 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.800 seven bid. So that's you have to go with. Yeah, I didn't 638 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.719 know that. I didn't know that. There's I'm sure a few of them. 639 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.440 Yeah, it happens that there's forty one to forty two bowl games. 640 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:58.599 Yeah, so you're talking at eighty two eighty four teams. You don't always 641 00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.639 get six and six and six and sixteen. So this came I believe it 642 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:07.360 was two thousand, three thirteen somewhere on there. Where then I came out 643 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.719 with that APR if you have a good GPA. Yeah, no, so 644 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.719 a lot it's not just GPA. It's waiting on a lot of things, 645 00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.079 graduation, but that's a factor. That's a factor. Yeah. So that's 646 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:19.719 where Jed goes, Hey, we need to have that, and that's I 647 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:23.400 think he's a smart coach. He's like I'm gonna use every possible way where 648 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.239 i want my team to get sure. Okay, why not? Now to 649 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.639 the gifts that you come from the heavens of college basketball. It's just been 650 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.239 so long since you've had me in here. This is from Houston the first 651 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.760 part of April. You said bring me back something, right, So I 652 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:39.920 brought you back something you can wear in the hot heat right now? Okay, 653 00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:45.760 just a bag? Oh cool, Gillian Gilligan hat. Got you a 654 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.559 Gilligan hat? Nice? It is fine for cool. Cool. It's funny 655 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:54.119 because I don't wear these hats, but I've been looking at him outside outside 656 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:59.039 that one, but I do my weed eater and I and yeah, sitting 657 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.239 in your pool drinking them. Very cool, thank you. And it even 658 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.239 had a string for me to Canada tien it up. Yeah cool. I 659 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:09.079 want to post this on Facebook. Cool. Yeah, that's I'll use that. 660 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.079 I'll put that. That would be my knick knack stuff. Thanks. 661 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.559 It's good to have friends like you, guys. I have my final four 662 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:21.400 bag. Cool. This my Tricker treat bag with the hat on. But 663 00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.840 on were my one of my disguises and my Tricker treat bag. Cool. 664 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:27.880 Cool, Thank you. I'll wear this. I'm gonna wear this this weekend, 665 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.639 within the week. Yeah, I'll post for you in you know, 666 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:32.679 Arizonly. Very cool. Thank you for thanks for thinking me. We didn't 667 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:37.519 have any Cooca cold bottles probably I used to collect. Yeah, Final four 668 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:44.360 battles. Oh yeah, yeah. Was it a good set up? Because 669 00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:45.880 next year are you going to be working that in Phoenix? Next year? 670 00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:50.039 This year, we'll have people up there working most likely I use you, 671 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.920 Tann but no, yeah, yeah, I don't. I we had the 672 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.039 CEO of the Final four, uh, and I don't want to miss press 673 00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.280 the pronounce him, so I won't say anything she was on. And then 674 00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:02.960 we had issue guy who's runs the media. I don't like the situation in 675 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.360 Phoenix for one reason and one reason. Right, you hit it right on 676 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:09.679 the head. It's not like San Antonio. It's not like New Orleans. 677 00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.960 How is Houston? Houston spread out? But it depends on what you're staying 678 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.239 too. This year we stayed more down town. I believe that by the 679 00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.679 convention center, so it was actually more compressed when we're staying there. Yeah, 680 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:28.199 but to get everybody there yet, Yeah, it's downtown. One place 681 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.800 you can walk around see everybody. They've done a better job in Houston. 682 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.400 I think this is a third year, the third time they've had it there, 683 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.079 and they did a better job of creating things around the stadium for you 684 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.199 to come early too. And before it was just a parking lot. Yeah, 685 00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:44.679 so now they filled the parking lot with some pregame tailgate stuff. They 686 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.159 might they might do that Phoenix, because if it's right there in Glynny'll have 687 00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:52.159 a new have the casinos now, the shopping places, and they should. 688 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.000 I mean, that's what drives people. You want to get them there early 689 00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:58.559 so they can hang out through three hours of the ingle. Yeah, right, 690 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.760 instead of having a downtown or the Fantista was I think it was. 691 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:04.400 That's tough, but Indian out was great. You can just stop on the 692 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.559 way to the to the stadium and everything. I don't know if I asked 693 00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.599 you this because in the in the ninety four it was in Charlotte the last 694 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:14.639 time, the last time they headed in a small venue like that, uh, 695 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.000 And I don't I remember. It was really busy for us obviously in 696 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:22.000 the media. For you were you able to get out, get out and 697 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.360 do anything because you guys were playing, we were playing we had. You're 698 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.320 you're pretty set schedule until you lose, and then it's just like, did 699 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.400 you guys come back letter? What you guys didn't we staying? Well? 700 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:36.119 Did you got the option to stay? Well? We all we stayed. 701 00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.440 Um, we got the option to go to the game or not. Monday, 702 00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:40.440 so he was like, hey, you guys want to go the game. 703 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:44.960 We all had dinner and we all had team things, responsibilities. We 704 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.039 had to be a certain places just to kind of check Sunday and Sunday and 705 00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.920 Monday. And then Bason and said, hey, King, you want to 706 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.679 go the game, you can. If not, you're staying here. And 707 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:59.320 did the team stay? Some of the US wins the game and someone some 708 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.159 of them stayed right there in the hotel room until it was on the home 709 00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:05.159 Oh okay, yeah, Dan Damon Stottom, I didn't want to go to 710 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.920 the game. He's like him, I'm not playing in it. Going it 711 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.960 would seem that would be him respectful. I didn't speak anything less from him. 712 00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.519 Yeah, Well that he's that dude. He is that dude. That's 713 00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.519 why he's so successful. I don't know if that's why, but he's gonna 714 00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:20.360 he'sn't gonna do a great job at Georgia Tech. Absolutely. You know he 715 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:24.159 is, because he's a detailed dude. He's the dude that ironist t shirts 716 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:29.320 good and he's gone down. I think he knows that. I think you 717 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:31.880 learned a lot from Coach just watching Coach Olsen stuff. Yeah, I mean 718 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:36.639 we all did. So did you read my book? Either read my book? 719 00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.840 Did you I've not read that damn yet. So when talking to Damon 720 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:43.719 in his book and such his chapter, he can't. He thought, that's 721 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.559 why I don't have a chapter. You and other people that have gotten mad 722 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:51.800 at me story twitter my chapters. But for Damon, he he two things 723 00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.440 that struck me. And I think I told you about this. When when 724 00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:58.320 Luke went to go interview him do the recruiting up in Portland, what was 725 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.400 the one thing that he noticed? No, uh, well, he drove 726 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.880 up in Alexis, drove up with Alexus, you know, kind of Damon 727 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.360 saw this guy driving up in Alexus. Only there's only one dude, the 728 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:13.920 only dudes who sold drugs drove up in a Lexus. Here was Luke Ulsen 729 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.519 droving up in Alexus. Yeah. And then when you would take you guys 730 00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:22.239 out you know how Luke was very fancy the best places to die at the 731 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.920 time, the best places, best hotels, and he said, you know, 732 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.480 I didn't grow up that way. I didn't know where my forks were 733 00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.039 supposed to go. I didn't know all this stuff. And we took a 734 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.559 class. Did you know that? So when we get in it's like one 735 00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.800 of your first orientations. You sit down in the room and they put us 736 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:39.079 setting out in front of you. You're like, okay, I didn't know 737 00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:43.679 that. Here's how you eat, Here's what these are for. Here's this 738 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:45.639 spork you use for this. This when you use for this is everything shouldn 739 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:49.480 right, this and that, And you're like okay, and we still forget 740 00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.639 it. Klezard sitting down on people right like we just want a hammer. 741 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.639 I did not know the hammerers that. Yeah, well that's cool. That 742 00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.440 was good. Yeah, I was talked. They talked a lot about money 743 00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:01.599 and dress and how you look nice and so we did all do that. 744 00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:07.079 Yeah respectfully. Yeah, but some people listen, Yeah something I don't care. 745 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.639 Yeah, sure, yes, Cargo. When coach Alsen called U ragmuffins, 746 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:19.159 yea muff that's right. That was the most that he's man at you 747 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:23.079 and you're trying not to laugh because things like that. Yeah, that was 748 00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:29.480 fun. Missed I missed those. Yeah, I'm sure how but you you 749 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.239 hanging out with the guys Coreyes, with you a lot. Reggie's with you 750 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.800 all the time. And talent doing great things, both of them, right, 751 00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:37.599 Kevin, he finds in talent, he's Kevin doing great things. People 752 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.000 still rave about Kevin and his leadership. Yeah, with that football team that 753 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:44.719 he had in ninety eight, I think it was you know, he's a 754 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.000 good guy. We talked the other day. We had lunch the other day, 755 00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:49.760 and um, it was great to talk to those guys about their post 756 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.599 collegiate endeavors. You know, when they first got out and they wanted to 757 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:57.679 keep playing, they wanted to keep you know, in the sporting well, 758 00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.719 they made some pretty good money overseas. How we all end where we are 759 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.920 back home, back here that Kyle far moved back in the town, Oh 760 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.719 did he? I think he was going to do that. He he's done 761 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.760 really well for himself on that TBT team. To China. I think it's 762 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:15.159 China right now. Yeah, in China, Yeah, there's there's fuenty of 763 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:19.559 opportunities, right, but to listen to the stories is amazing. Yeah, 764 00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:25.920 because that's where you can all bull Yes now like get But it's funny because 765 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.559 you talk about Cli telling Corey to be quiet or to shut up because back 766 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.400 in the bus stuff right, and in his radio show that he had him 767 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:38.320 back in the style. Can we please get a moment of silence? Those 768 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:43.360 are the things when you're twenty twenty years old, is doing great things any 769 00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.159 right now? It's awesome to watch them. Yeah, all the guys, 770 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:51.280 I mean Juson wraps their arms around the guys I've played here with. That's 771 00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:54.320 an a testament of the fan base. I think people love once they get 772 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:59.639 here and they feel it. It's not four years and done. You come 773 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.719 back and you're you're welcome. Sure every day? Yeah right, and people 774 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.960 applause you when you walk in the Michale. I mean, you don't know 775 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.239 me when I walked in macale, but when you do, you know the 776 00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:14.480 important people. Why why are you wearing that eighteam shirt? That's right, 777 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:16.280 so I can kick you out. I'm not only a member, I'm the 778 00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:22.480 president. Okay, Hey, thanks for being here at the first hour. 779 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.000 We're gonna be here for the second hour. As well. Right, um, 780 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:29.280 thank you Jason for handling these duties. Here, we're gonna take the 781 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.239 break. Are we going to early last time? We're good. Okay, 782 00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:35.519 We'll go here and then come back on the second hour breaking news, right, 783 00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:36.360 yes, okay,