The following presentation is in now Marvel Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from
around the world. It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files.
Welcome aboard everybody. I hope everybody's doing well. I hope you'll have a
great weekend. We have a very very special guest joining us tonight. His
name is Colin. He originally reached out I think back in December or so.
And you know, I've gotten a ton of emails over the last three
or four years about all the different subjects that we talk about on this podcast
in the I'm using air quotes here the conspiracy realm. But this is the
one and only I ever received about that. And this is something that I'm
passionate about as many as you know, because we're lied to about so much.
And Colin reached out and he had mentioned and I'm just going to read
the first couple of sentences. He said. The purpose of his email was
after reading the Bible and using the strong exhaustive concordance as well as Matthew Henry's
commentary, he came across the Brazen Sea while reading the description of Solomon's Temple
and the New King James Temple, and he had mentioned Rob's Skiba posted a
video r I P. Rob Skiba. Of course, he recently posted a
video about how he thought the Earth was being described in the Bibble, and
that's going to be, you know, the main topic of our conversation today.
And without any further ado, let's welcome Colin to the program. Colin,
thank you so much for joining us tonight, sir, Oh, thank
you, Georgia, appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Yeah,
you bet you. And before we get started, you know, go ahead,
and if you'd like to as little or as much as you'd like,
give a little bit about yourself, your background to the listeners at home,
real quick. George, would you be offended if I wanted to pray before
we started or not? I would be the exact ops. I that'd be
very humbled and appreciative of that. All right, let's do it, Heavenly,
Father to God, I just want to come humbly before you lift you
up and give credit, all credit and praise to your son Jesus Christ.
I pray the Holy Spirit you sit in this conversation with us, this is
all about you. I pray you helped me stay out of the way.
I pray you use me as you see fit, and I pray this reaches
as many people as possible and brings them to salvation through Jesus. I prayer
will be done in Jesus, in your name, under the blood you shed
for us to pray. Amen. Amen, Thank you so much for that.
Brother. All Right, so you said just a little bit about myself.
Yeah, sorry if I'm sounding a little nervous. I've never actually done
this before, but this is exciting. Yeah, so real quick, I'm
from Missouri, like I told you before, moved the whole family moved to
Yakima, Washington, and then stayed there for a little bit with family,
and then moved to Prescott, Arizona for a little bit. And I just
have to say Prescotta, Arizona is a very bizarre place. It seemed like
every other person had like crystals and their windows and stuff, you know what
I mean. And that was back in probably what early nineties, so I
can only imagine what it's like now. Um, we were there, and
then we moved to Vista, California, where I've basically been my whole life.
So I consider myself a local in Callie. Um, but yeah,
we stayed h in a motel and um, um, real quick, my,
my whole life has been riddled with supernatural events and um has kind of
led up to where I'm at now. And uh yeah, God's been showing
me all kinds of stuff. So what I do is every time I read
the Bible, Um, I asked God to show me what I normally wouldn't
see. What I you know, because let's face it, everything we have,
you know, even right down to the money in your bank account,
it's all given and from God. So all of us are on borrowed time.
All of this is his, you know what I mean? So I
would ask God to just show me something and just help me understand the Bible
so that I could turn and explain something if need be whenever I'm trying to
witness to somebody, because that's what that's what all that's about. Right.
If you could have billions of dollars and do this, that and the other,
but if someone comes up to you and asks you about Jesus or the
Bible and you can't answer them, it's like, what's the point. So
um, yeah, so God started showing me stuff, just bizarre things,
and what's amazing to me is that it's not like I'm anybody special. It's
not like I have these superpowers. You know. It's just literally any person
can do this. Any person can just come before God and just you know,
just say God, you know, use me, what do you want
to do? What do you want to do? And He'll start showing you
stuff. Man like it just strange things like I was talking to my mom
and I told you earlier, George, that my mom is the biggest spiritual
influence of my life. She led me to Christ when I was I think
I was five. I remember walking up to her in the kitchen and I
tugged on her dress and I asked her. I said, I either said
how do I get saved? Or I want to get saved? And she
stopped cooking dinner for me and my five siblings and my dad, and she
took me to the bedroom. She led me to Jesus. And you know
it's but yeah, so basically I was talking to her recently about about the
events about Jesus and this is something that's very very to me. It's powerful,
and I think it's something that needs to be said. Is and I've
never heard anybody say this except for maybe Chuck Missler shout out to Chuck Missile
the rest of peace. He's my boy, He's Jesus. When he came
out of the grave, Mary thought he was the gardener, right, And
people don't really, I've never heard anyone stop and ask like, well,
first of all, why in the world did she think he's the gardener.
So you gotta remember, these are all people that were, um, they
drew near to him. I mean, they like were starving for his time.
They loved being around him, right, So every waking when these people
left their jobs, they they dedicated their lives to this man, Jesus Christ.
For just a short few years he was with him. So you gotta
figure they're gonna know what he smells like, they're gonna know what he looks
like, they're gonna know what he sounds like. But yet when he comes
out of the tomb, she just thinks he's the gardener's right now. And
then and then you got and now you got the road to amis where Jesus
is talking to these guys and they don't know who he is, and yet
he's instructing them literally from the beginning all the way up to you know,
a present day for them telling them about the prophecies and basically school in these
days, right, and so they they didn't know who he was. And
then, you know, it's just interesting to me, and I think there's
another there's another incident. I can't think of it right now, but so
basically what I'm saying is, oh, yeah, up in the upper room,
that's right. Jesus comes in the upper room and a part with doubting
Thomas where he says, you know, he just says, I don't believe
you are who you are, And if you read it to me, it
seems like they realize who he is once he sits down and eats with them,
and then he starts breaking bread or he basically takes the position of authority,
which over in the Middle East you just don't do that. That's not
something you do. So, you know, the guy, the dude of
the house, right, the man of the house is supposed to do it.
But Jesus would always do this. Jesus would always take authority. And
so I personally believe that when he went to break bread or however they do
it, I think they saw the marks and his wrists, and I think
that's when they realized. And I think the reason why they no one ever
recognized him is because it's possible, this is just a conjecture. It's possible
that Jesus was still bearing his scars. So he was still bearing his wounds.
He probably looked like a freak. You know, he had this beard
ripped out. You know, he might have sounded different, you know what
I mean. But he didn't have any broken bones. So now that could
have all changed when he ascended to the Father. But then we got that
passage with John saying that and he looked, well, he was in heaven.
He looked and beheld a lamb as if it was slain. So I
just think it's very interesting. And then unplus, he got all these um
personal testimonies of people saying, oh I saw Jesus, Dad, Jesus,
Jesus. No one ever talks about his face. No one can ever say
they've seen his face. And I personally claim I believe this. I think
that when we see Jesus, it's going to be UM. It's going to
be instantaneous. You're you're it's um. I think you're going to be floored
because you realize right then and there that who he is what he went through,
and he has to bear these marks, possibly for all eternity, while
all of us get to, you know, be transitioned into these glorious,
beautiful bodies. But um, sorry if I'm getting choked up, but that's,
uh, that's what I think. So I can't prove it, of
course, but um, and then I asked this question to my mom,
and it's just it's a real simple question. I said, well, you
have to look and she, of course, she was like, well,
I don't know, call and that's kind of a bizarre thing. I was
like, no, I agree with you, it's bizarre, I said,
but look at it like this, which one is a bigger sacrifice, the
one where Jesus knows full well that I'm gonna have to go through this.
So basically, you gotta you gotta realize that this is an anomaly. This
is once once in existence, this is never gonna happen again. It's almost
like, um, Jesus had to break the code in order to bring us
back from the pit. So in order for Jesus to break the code and
do all that, I'm just using words here, it's almost like God allowed
it once. And because that there's a permanent thing, like a lasting effect.
Now I could be dead wrong, you know, but it just seems
to me that if it's not that, then how do you explain all those
different incidents where no one seemed to know who he was? You know what
I mean? It's like, how do you not know who this guy was?
Because then they also say the dudes when they walked with them, the
two guys they said when Jesus left, when he disappeared, and they were
probably you know, all aghast they said, you read it says and they
told each other like did our hearts not burn? When he was talking to
us. It's almost like they knew kind of deep down who he was,
but they didn't want to say anything. So it's like, well, why
wouldn't they want to say something? Is it possibly because they're walking with this
guy who looks like an outcast, you know what I mean, someone you
wouldn't want to walk if you were walking down the street, would you walk
up to this guy? Probably not? And a gardener you got to figure
two thousand years ago, who's going to be a gardener? A gardener is
going to be someone is an outcast. A gardener is going to be someone
who has to clean up, you know, filth or bones or maintain a
graveyard. It probably gets paid very little, you know what I'm saying.
It's not going to be like nowadays where you've got a pension or whatever.
It's going to be a very low level menial job. And I think there's
something to that which is something that Jesus would would would absolutely do. He
would even in modern day. You know, when you see people like Joel
Olstein and people like that, who right, And I'm not trying to insult
anybody who's supports so I'm just telling you from this is my opinion. To
my point of view, people who who claim to be people, you know,
men of Christ and you know, have thirty thousand square foot homes and
jetliners and the way that that's just not Jesus. You know, even I
believe Jesus wouldn't even salute a flag. You know, everybody patriotism is it's
kind of twofold to me in my old age, I'm starting to realize that
it's important to I still um champion the sacrifice of the men and women before
us, and including the ones I served with. We all believed we were
doing a noble thing. At the same time, I also recognize that most
of the people in government's not just ours but everywhere around the world are corrupt
from from the top to the bottom. So with all that being said,
I absolutely believe you make a great point where you're coming from with Jesus and
a gardener, where it almost seems like such a menial task and they wouldn't
look twice to think, you know, Jesus would be doing something like that.
Yeah. Yeah, So that's that's one of the major things that I
believe God has shown me. You know. And again I'm not taking credit
for any of this. This is all the Holy Spirit. This is a
God God doing it um. But it is very peculiar, you know what
I mean. I thought of it. I was like, interesting, which
would be a bigger sacrifice, right if Jesus. And also another thing I
asked my moms, Well, Jesus says that that he himself doesn't even know
the day or the he doesn't know when he's supposed to come back. He's
basically waiting for his dad to give him the orders. He said that,
and she said, right, that's true. I said, Okay, So
if Jesus is admitting that he doesn't know certain things. Wouldn't it be possible
if Jesus basically what I'm saying is, wouldn't it be possible that Jesus didn't
know the exact outcome of what he had to do. And what I'm what
I mean by that is you have to look at it like Jesus is the
exact perfect example of faith. Right, So when you read the scriptures,
every time Jesus is doing anything, he's doing it all for his father.
About you know, pray to the Father. I have to, you know,
have to go spend time with my father. I got to pray.
And even when he was twelve and he got lost in the temple, Joseph
Mary like, what the heck where are you at? He's like, don't
you know? I was about my father's business, Like his entire life.
He was doing everything because his dad sent him, and he was representing his
dad. And so he said, if you've seen me, you've seen my
dad. So I think it's possible that God the Father gave him this order
and said, okay, you know, if we're going to say these people,
you're gonna have to do this. And I think I personally think that
Jesus didn't know whether or not he would be able to pull it off.
I think that he believed that he would, and I think that he had
faith that his father would bring him back. But there's a difference between knowing
something and having faith in something. It's like, well, what do you
mean by that call? And it's like, well, look at it like
this. If you go to an interview and your buddy is best friends with
the boss of the company, right, and your buddy tells you don't worry
calling, You've got the job. Just make you have to. You have
to do the interview for posterity, and you know, we've got to make
it look legit. But there's also other candidates. So you show up to
the thing. There's three people sitting there just like you. They took a
shower, shave, put on their suit, they've you know, practice what
they're gonna say, just like you. But you know that you're going to
get the job. You see what I'm saying. There's a difference. There's
a difference from your perspective and their perspective. They believe that they're going to
get it because they think they're going to do this, that or the other.
You know you're gonna get it right, guess you've already been told.
I think Jesus right, I don't think Jesus knew exactly what was going to
happen, because if he did know, if he knew that, he knew
that, he knew like, Okay, all I gotta do is go,
I'm gonna get tortured, it's gonna suck, I'm gonna die, right,
but it's all good. Um, I'm going to be redeemed and Jesus and
God's gonna bring me back. I don't think so. I think that's why
he sweat great drops of blood because I don't think the Father. Basically,
if the Father had told him, like if it was a hashtile plan and
Jesus knew all these things, then there would be no reason for faith,
right you see what I'm saying. Yeah, and so um, yeah,
again, that's just another thing that I thought of that I can't prove,
but this is what I believe. And uh, we should probably get to
the Brazen Sea because I could talk all day. Yeah that that that's that's
great stuff. That's uh, you know, at the end of the day,
he did die for our sins and uh, you know, you mentioned.
You know, some of the things that you've mentioned, I've never thought
that deep about, but yeah, those are are kind of those things that
only happened once. Ever, Jesus dying for our sins, that's never going
to happen again. Um, of course, the flood that's going to happen
again. That's the Covenant God's now, it'll be fire next time, but
it won't be it won't be a flood. But yeah, these are the
once in a lifetime and once in a existence type of thing. So yeah,
the Brazen Sea, I'd be very interested to hear again how you came
across it, because again, in all the years we've been doing this,
this is the only email I ever got about it, and when I took
the time to look at the picture. And by the way, folks,
I will two things. I'll have Colin's email address in the show descriptions so
you can reach out and chat with him if you have questions. And I'll
put a picture in the show description too. So if you're listening to the
pot well obviously you're listening to the podcast, hit the pause button, go
to the show description and look at the Brazen Sea real quick, and then
you can come back and as Collin's talking, you can kind of understand what
he is talking about. All right, real quick, I want to give
a shout out to are, just like to just make it known that I
think I told you before in an email that I had never come across anything
about the Brazen Sea and anyone talking about it representing the Earth or something like
that, or maybe I said it to Scipio Arrudatis was one of the one
of you guys. I did actually find it. I think it was two
nights ago. And this is probably God again. Um. It's called study
light dot, org, forward slash, Encyclopedia. Um. It says a
big bibliography. Um, no wak laer bouch Derek have Brushian like sounds.
German archaeology from eighteen ninety four and then ben Zinger Archibald or archive I'm not
sure, from eighteen ninety four, page two hundred and fifty two, and
it says in rabbinical literature, the upper two fifths were round. This is
talking about the Brazen See now, the Brazen Sea. It's this massive vessel
that sat at the southeast corner of Solomon's temple. It says the upper two
fifths were round, but the lower three fifths were square. The symbolism of
the brazen sea is described in detail in the Midrash todd Shay, which is
like a Jewish Jewish text. I guess the cea represented the world. When
I read this, I was like, what says the cea represented the world?
The ten els and ells, I guess is like a measurement of fluid.
I think I could be wrong about that or depth. The ten ells
of diameter corresponded to the ten sefferat and I'm not sure what that is actually,
and it was round at the top, as the heavens are around.
And then I put I think of the four corners of the earth and the
circle of the earth inside that. Because it talks about you know, you'll
say, that's like the number one response he say, oh, people talk
about flat earth or whatever, and people a way say, oh, well
God said that he drew a circle in the face of the earth. It's
like, well, yeah, the circle doesn't mean a sphere. You could
draw a circle on a piece of paper. So I believe what this is
saying. This is there's so much to get into. I mean, I
don't know how long you want to do this, but so if the bottom
was square, And then it says that the four corners of the earth,
because I'm picturing a circle set inside of a square. So and then Job
it talks about Job chapter thirty eight, verse fourteen. The earth takes shape
like clay under a seal. It's hills stand out like the folds of a
garment. And and that's God telling Joe basically how he did it. I
I yeah, I sorry, I'm losing track here. I remember listening to
Rob Skiba years ago, and Rob Skiba, I honestly believe Rob Skiba was
onto something, and I think he started getting too much notoriety. I think
he started getting out there and a bunch of people started paying attention. I
personally think something was done to him. Maybe not, I mean, maybe
just died natural causes, but because he started, uh, he started getting
his fingers and all different types of pies. Right, he started getting out
there and he was becoming pretty well known. But he talked about he gave
a rough model showing but kind of like a no globe, but it basically
represented what we're talking about now is the Brazen Sea. It looks essentially like
almost like a giant I guess you would call it like a giant basin,
like a giant bowl or basin that sat on top of twelve oxen, and
the oxen faced in all directions northeast, west, and south, and three
oxen per direction and their hind quarters faced inward. And what's interesting is that
these um the priests. The priests would sit inside of the well. They
would, it says, it would wash themselves with the Brazen sea. But
for the life of me, I cannot find whether or not the Brazen Sea
had a covering or a lid, which of course that would be the firmament.
But I find it hard. I believe that it didn't because, as
we all know, God and the Jewish people are extremely clean. You know,
cleanliness is one of God's top priorities, right, So it would be
strange if they're using this to clean themselves before they go write scripture in God's
word, and they just left it open for bugs or dirt or whatever to
get inside the water, you know what I'm saying, right, And I've
been in that part of the world. There's lots of dust over there exactly
you don't need. So it's like I can't for the life of me pin
it down. But I'm sure you or Sippio or whoever you know, a
better scholar than myself, will be able to figure that out. But yeah,
so I just wanted to give credit to whoever that was. No Ac
Librook the German gay from eighteen ninety four. So I got some verses here.
I don't know if you want to hear them. Yeah please, let's
just real quick go over the So basically these are covered in the Kings and
Chronicles, right correct. You got second Kings, first Kings, he got
chronicles, and there's other ones like that are kind of related to it,
like acts and revelation ezekiel um it says, let me see what I butter
here? Page one. Yeah, oh yeah, real quick. Doctor doctor
Metzler, doctor Metzler, not to be confused with doctor Missler, doctor Metzler,
MCL whatever those stand for. He was also a judge. He has
a web ring that is set up to get the Brazen rebuilt. I've never
even heard of this, but in my I told you I'd start doing some
research and adding more stuff to what I already had. This is bizarre to
me. Um, So if the Brazen Sea is what I think it is,
and it represents the Earth. God says that this Earth is going to
be destroyed and it's gonna it's gonna fall away, and he's going to create
and bring about a new Earth. Okay, So what's interesting is that this
guy, doctor Metzler, he's a Jewish guy, and he has this whole
thing set up to try to get a movement going so they can rebuild a
new one, a new Brazen Ce because apparently this thing was like almost like
a wonder of the world, and people would come all around and just you
know, admire this thing that Solomon just one of the things that Solomon built.
It was almost like a thing of cultural pride, I guess you would
say. The doctor claims that he was able to calculate the Brazen Sea for
the first time since its destruction, which I'm not sure about that. But
and this thing that he started is called the National Jewish Brazen Sea Project.
It was created on April ninth, two thousand and three, supposedly as the
same day that Baghdad fell. You probably could give testimony to that. You
said, you're in the military, right army or yeah, what was that
date again? April ninth, two thousand and three. Yeah, yeah,
that sounds about right, because we went over the Burm in March two thousand
and three. Said that sounds about right. Oh crazy, So I guess.
Wow, So I guess when Baghdad fell he I guess he felt safe
to do it, to create it on that day. I guess. I
don't know. That's interesting, yeah, right, you know, it's more
interesting if I could just interject really quick, yeah, because I had this
too. I came across in March of nineteen eighty six. He actually created
or he created something called the Metzler formula, and I guess in eighty six
he applied it to the Brazen Sea, and I guess that's kind of where
he figured out the measurements for it. That's interesting, huh yeah, no
kidding. And then let's see first Kings talks about the Checkered work. And
I know anyone, I know, you know, but your listeners probably are
well aware to the Masons and all their symbology and all that stuff. And
I know you've had episodes about Manly P. Hall and he there's a famous
quote I think Manly P. Hall said, once mankind understands and figures out
symbology, then a veil will fall from the face of mankind and everything will
be revealed. Basically, yes, sir, yeah, so I think this
is one of the main doors that once you unlock what we're talking about.
I think it's basically that manly p Halls talking about. So in the temple
there's also two pillars Yakin and Boaz, and the two names yakno Boaz.
This is all part of the Masonic ritual, but part of the two pillars
what's known as checkered work, and I think that's where you see all the
black and white checkered floors and all that nonsense that the Masons do. Um.
Yakin stands for he will establish, and then Boaz stands for in him
his strength. Um. So I'm just laying out the kind of the layout
of the where the where the Brazen Sea sits. Yeah, it's very bizarre.
I'm telling you. There's something here in Scipio seems to agree. And
you know what going harkening back to Yakin and Boaz, A lot of that
um people believe that was used as a ritual, you know, with the
twin towers that they've represented Jakin and Boaz. Oh I believe it. Um,
let's see you already talked about the oxen um. This is interesting that
there was two rows cast at the same time as the as the as the
sea itself. So, like I said, it's a giant basin. And
so hire him. I think it was hire him a biff or hire him
when he was contracted by Solomon to do the work. I mean, this
guy had It's amazing with this guy made at the on the planes of the
Jordan planes because I guess the soil there was very m clay, very clay
like, so it made it easy for him to make casts. Plus,
you know, anytime you're doing work for the Lord, God doesn't want to
hear any tools. He doesn't want any you know, residue or dirt or
anything touching anywhere near his stuff. So that's why he had to go do
work in the Jordan planes to do all this. So when he cast it,
there was two rows to go round about the basin um. They ran
on the outside of the basin, just under the brim. And this is
that I was going to talk about. This is one of the main things
that caught my attention back when I was listening to Rob Skiba. I had
watched one of his videos, and that's kind of bizarre, and it's like
back in twenty fifteen, sixteen, I thought it was very strange. But
then I had recently, I reginally watched an interview with August Picard, which,
for whatever reason, most people do not know who this man is.
He's an incredible guy. I made a little video about him. Yeah,
I mean, I need to watch the one that he made. But it's
crazy. Man like, he was the first dude to ever reach the stratosphere
with I think like his cousin or nephew or something. And and when he
came back down, the reporter asked him, like, what did you see?
You know, and this is like back in nineteen thirty two or something,
and he said the Earth looked to be flat with upturned edges, which
which is very strange. So when when you when you take that and you
gotta figure this is back in the early thirties. There's no there's hardly any
pollution, you know, very little electricity, um, you know, so
there's not there's not going to be hardly any ambient light. So if you're
up that high up in the stratosphere, your view is going to be it's
not going to be obscured as much as it is now. It's it's not
going to be as opaque as it is now. So he would be able
to see much farther than we can, I believe. And this harkens back
to the Brazen Sea. It talks about it having the brim is like the
lip of a cup, or like a like a tulip, which is you
know that That makes me think of a flat with up turn edge, like
you said, it had ornamental ornamental buds all the way around within these two
rows. Now, I think what this possibly represents is the sun and the
moon. So the Bible talks about the sun and the moon. They both
are on a circuit, almost like a guy that's running a race, right,
So the Sun of the moon go round and circle over and over and
over and over. Now, these two rows underneath the brim, that's the
only thing I could think of that because it says that there's these ornamental buds
whatever that is. Now those could represent the sun and the moon going around
in a circle. I could be dead wrong, but I think it's interesting.
There's two rows, you know, one row for each you know,
sun, the moon. And then you got First King seven chapter seven twenty
six, and it says, and it's brim strape like a cup, like
a lily blossom that I just talked about. UM, and I already mentioned
August McCard. Uh, let's see First Kings chapter seven twenty seven to thirty
nine talked about the ten carts of bronze that have all kinds of symbols.
That's got the lion, the oxen, the cherubim um. These are decorating
the carts. And these carts have panels on them. It's very strange.
But when I read this, it reminded me of m wheels within a wheel
that e Zekiel talked about. Um. These creatures, they operate and function
in a very strange manner um. They move very very weird. UM.
But I personally believe that these carts represent that these entities that I guess be
responsible for doing certain things outside the earth or who knows, maybe they have
multiple responsibilities. I don't know. But it talks about in heaven. You
know, you got these chairbms. They got four faces, you know,
an oxen, a lion, a man. It's just you know what I
mean, It's like it's too coincidental. And below them were wreaths of plated
work. And I when people hear about easy to keel and the wheels within
a wheel, he's he can't you know, he's not going to be able
to give you exact detail at his time. So again, I can't prove
this, but I think that's what that is. I think it's talking about
these same entities and these carts. They there were I think there were what
is it ten of them? Yeah, these are the or charge of the
Oh yeah, ten labors. So the labors sat outside the brazen Sea.
There were five on each side, five on one side, five and the
other and they each held I think it's at forty baths. So, Um,
the Bible is, it's it's fascinating. It's it references references itself.
So uh, you literally have to cross reference the Bible to get a full
understanding of what one passage is saying. You know, Um, it's almost
like a Rubik's cube and to like unlock it to the two things that stand
out that obviously that Um, what was it? Was it? Metzker,
the guy's name that we were just talking about, Metzler, That's right.
Um, actually how much was two thousand baths of water and the fact that
it was made of you know, brass or bronze. Can you imagine how
heavy this thing was? Yeah, that's what I mean. This thing is
enormous. So I yeah, um, very very strange. Let's see,
I put the ten labors, so I also thought of the ten labors.
You get to these ten labors outside of the Brazen Sea. So the Brazen
Sea is this massive thing that holds all this water, right, and then
it's got round about it these individual carts with little smaller basins or smaller labors.
It calls them filled with water that the priests would either pour into the
sea or they would I guess if they were going to wash their hands or
feet or something and not take a full bath, I guess. But it
was just other for other ceremonial things they would use the labors, which I
thought that was very interesting. I think those possibly represent the storehouses because there's
many times as the Lord talks about storehouses. He actually called out job right,
job is getting ticked off and he's like, were you there? Do
you know where I keep this? Do you know? Uh? The storehouses
for the snow or whatever? So I think it's possible that these these carts
represented the storehouses outside of the earth. Um. And then it's interesting that,
uh, in the flood, it talks about the windows of heaven opened
up and water water was poured in, and so the same thing you could
do with these carts or these labors outside the Brazen seas, you would pour
water in from the outside. Um, I just it's it's not it's not
a coincidence in my opinion. And then see, I got what else do
I have? Sorry, I just can't get me off anytime you want.
Yeah, I was just gonna ask you real quick. So do you believe
Solomon? Um, you know, he was instructed by God to build it
this way, to to be a replicate of our earth? I do?
Yeah, Okay, I think I personally believe that there's a crap ton of
information that has been intentionally kept from the world. And I think there's all
kinds of stuff about Solomon that we're never gonna know because you got a figure,
this guy was so powerful. I mean, just by one individual what
do you call it, conscript or, one individual account that he had with
a far off nation. I talied it up and I think it was either
a billion or half a billion and a half dollars in today's value of like
gold and silver and stuff that's just from one one kingdom that they that they
gave him every year. So I mean he had cities that were built just
for his chariots and his horsemen. I mean, this guy was so powerful
it was insane. Like the only reason he failed is because he failed,
like he stopped doing what he's supposed to do. And he had three hundred
wives and seven hundred concubines, you know what I mean. Like there's literally
nothing the guy couldn't do right, anything you want to do. So he
had so much power and wealth, it was just it's beyond impressive. But
yeah, I do. I think I think whenever it was that the Lord
showed him how to do it. And I think David David knew a bunch
of stuff too, because David was gave all kinds of prophecies and stuff.
And I think that's what I mean. I think the Jewish people, or
let me let me retract that. I think there's a certain pocket of Jewish
leaders that know exactly what's going on, but they intentionally don't say anything.
Oh for just like back in you know what I mean, just like back
in the day, they go ahead, No, no, I thought you
were done. I'm sorry, didn't mean to cut you off. I agree.
And it's also interesting that this is what we're talking about, the Brazen
Sea or the Multency, which it's also known as um. It's in the
Bible again in Chronicles in First Kings, but it's also in the tal mode
as well. Yeah, so it's I think basically as like a mock ritual.
I think the elites and people who run this world it's almost like to
snub us or to like like mock us. Just they give us a little
breadcrumbs of information and give us just enough to, you know, so that
we could if if we wanted to, we could figure stuff out. But
you're gonna have to work for it. You're not gonna you know, they're
not gonna just sit there and tell you so UM. I think that there's
all kinds of stuff that's been kept from us in regards to like this.
In regards to I personally believe that Solomon went all over the planet. I
think because he had his own he had his own what would you call it,
um navy. He had his own navy. Um, he brought in
massive amounts of um lumber from wherever it was on barges, like you know,
it was. It was crazy what this guy did. But um,
see he did the talking about the labors. Oh yeah. And then,
uh, something interesting that I can't seem to pin down. It seems to
be talking about the footstool. So God references the earth as being his footstool
like dozens of times. Right, he says, I will make your enemy
like like your footstool, and then talks about the earth being Lord's footstool.
But then there's a couple of times where the footstool is mentioned about, like
like David David's talking about whereas it Psalm. I think it's Psalm one,
Chapter one thirty two, verse seven. David says, let us go into
his tabernacle, let us worship at his footstool. I believe this is referring
to the brazen Sea. But he calls the earth his footstoo as well.
Now he could just be saying the footstool is a tabernacle altogether. I don't
know. But um, it's just it's just so many things, man,
There's just so much stuff to talk about. Yeah, you know. And
let me see another one here. Um, let me go, oh yeah,
um Acts chapter seven, verse forty nine. Heaven is my throne and
Earth is my footstool. And I also, I just put I believe his
throne is located above the North Star, Polaris. That's what I believe,
you know, the north the North Star never moves. And Lord says he
looks down on us as grasshoppers and talks about you know, the enemy and
the devil and all his followers. They think they're doing their little machinations.
And the Lord just sits up on his throne and laughs. He just laughs.
Out of right. I think that's funny. It's just funny to me.
And on that, I really do. I think that God is literally
right above us. But I think it's Paul who says First Chronicles. I
think it's Paul. Probably correct me if I'm wrong. First Chronicles, Chapter
twenty eight, verse two, talking about about David. No, No,
I'm sorry, not First Chronicles. Where was it? I'm getting ahead of
myself. Here here we go, Ezekiel, Ezekiel chapter one, verse twenty
six, and above the firmament over their heads was the likeness of a throne
in appearance like a sapphire stone. On the likeness of the throne was a
likeness with the apparance of a man high above it. So I believe that
is the reason we see through a glass darkly, As it says in the
Bible, that's the same reason Ezekiel couldn't quite make out what he was looking
at. And what was that chapter again, Ezekiel, Chapter one, verse
twenty six. Um, So when I think I haven't written down here somewhere
okay, and above the firmament was over their heads with the lightness. Um
ho, Or was that I haven't written down somewhere talking about seeing through a
glass darkly? Um? I think seeing the glass darkly is talking about kind
of multi speak. It's talking about the firmament, right, Yeah, So
the firmament, however God made it it, It has multi it has multiple
features to it. Um. But apparently you can't see through it. But
uh. And also I was going to say, now, this is a
bizarre one, and I don't know what you think about this, but um,
I personally believe space is just that. I don't think there's anything in
space at all. I think the devil takes everything that God does and he
literally flips it on its head and he doesn't create anything. God creates and
perverts it. He perverts it, and he does a one eighty. So
you know how they say, oh, there's trillions and trillions and billions of
stars and all these countless planets and all this nonsense that can never be verified.
Yeah you know what I mean, say they give us all these digital
images, um that it's just it's like Walt Disney. It's like a total
fantasy dreamland. Yeah, it's no coincidence that Warner von Brown, who was
the head of NASA, and Walt Disney had a few, uh, made
a few movies together. Yeah. So but what centuries. Let me find
this one. It talks about I think it's Matthew um. Uh yeah,
so Matthew chapter eight, verse twelve, um talking about buying them up and
cast them into the outer darkness, which is very strange. Um, but
this is a known thing, like once you reach a certain elevation, all
the stars disappear. And even when you go back to the very first interview
with you know, buzz Aldrin, they were confused. Yeah, they couldn't
get their story. Now and it's like, guys, come on, like,
didn't you just go to the moon? What's up? So they one
of them said, oh, the stars, and then the Cooper whatever his
name was at the end of the table said there were no stars. And
I believe, I personally believe that guy was the one in charge, not
not Neil Armstrong. I think the dude at the end of the table that
no one can remember his name, I think he was the one that was
actually in charge of the other two. Um, I think he was the
dude, you know what I mean. And he was the one that corrected
him. He's like, oh, remember there were no stars. So yeah,
it was definitely Michael Collins. Buzz Aldrin is he was definitely yeah,
Michael Collins. It definitely wasn't a buzz Aldrin. Oh no, not buzz
guy. Yeah, no, buzz All. Yeah, the guys. I
feel bad for him. Neil Armstrong. He drank himself to death. And
um, I actually just made a video the other day, a thirty four
or thirty five minute video just just showing all the lies of history. And
he gave a speech at the White House and I want to say ninety four
and you could just see the guilt on his face and he would he kind
of mentioned the truth and it was one of the weirdest things. And again,
you know, you talk about Michael Jordan who won a basketball championship,
and that guy had sneakers, gatorade, movies, everything, and these these
guys went to the moon. There is if that was actually if that actually
happened, there is no You want to argue fire in the Internet and the
wheel great, but I mean that is man's greatest accomplishment. And they just
disappeared. They just disappeared. I would be on every movie, every commercial,
you know, Oh my goodness, I'd be ecstatic. You couldn't get
me to stop talking about those guys acted like they were the funeral Colin.
Yeah, yeah, they really did. So about the space, I personally
think that and there's several verses on this. I should have wrote them down,
but it basically just talks about the outer darkness and where there will be
weeping and nashing of teeth. So being cast out to the outer darkness where
there's weeping and nashing of teeth. So when you really stop and you think
about it, it's like, we'll wait a second. If we're going to
follow the pattern of what the devil does of taking what God does and completely
doesn't want eighty Right, So if the devil's saying, if there's trillions and
trillions of galaxies and all this nonsense, well, the opposite of that would
be, it's just the earth, and above it would be Heaven, God's
throne room, whatever that looks like. I have no idea. However big
that is, I don't know. And then beyond that it would just be
emptiness. It would just be the outer darkness where there's weeping in nash of
teeth. There is no there's nothing else, It's just us. And when
you that sinks in, it's actually pretty terrifying, Like you see what I'm
saying, because it's basically what that means is it's like, well, the
only thing that could save you would be God, Because to me, that's
absolutely terrifying. It is at the same time biblical cosmology when people actually take
the time and read it and understand it for what it is and how it
is written. You know, we talked a little bit before the program talking
about how this is bringing people back to God in Jesus Christ. And once
you realize that we're not an accident, that this wasn't a Big Bang,
and if you google how old the Earth is, it'll tell you we're four
point five four billion years old, and dinosaurs existed fifty four million years ago
and all this other stuff. You're just here on accident, and when you're
dead, you're gone. That's what they want you to believe. That's what
Satan wants you to believe. And I made a point a couple of weeks
ago, or maybe a week ago, I had an interview with a friend
of us, William Boot, and I said, if we are, if
you're a Christian and you take the Bible for its word, then um,
let's talk about the Tower of Bible for a second. Were they building a
tower to reach the heavens? Or were they building a tower to reach the
Moon or Venus or Mars. That we're building a tower the Bible says,
to reach heaven. Yeah, and that should really wake you up and understand
that the heliocentric model as it's presented is absolute garbage and lines. Yeah,
yeah, trying to see what else I have here, but yeah, the
so the brazen see. Um, oh, one thing I don't think I
meant brought up. It's my own conjecture. Obviously, all This is just
my own personal opinion conjecture that I'm trying to research more and get this pinned
down, get it narrowed down. But it would seem to me that if
the Brazen Sea represents the Earth with that which I believe it does, that
mankind actually represents the earth because God said that he formed man out of the
clay, out of the soil of the earth. And there's a lot of
Hebrew or you know, the Jewish people, I guess you'd say legend or
folklore. They believe that the reason why Jerusalem is so is so important.
They believe that that's where God stood when he formed Adam, as he formed
Adam, right there where I guess you would say, where the Holy of
Holies is, like wherever the wherever the temple. And that's the other thing.
I believe the exact location of the Solomon's Temple is not on the Temple
Mount. I personally think what they the world calls the Temple Mount, I
personally believe that is the old Roman fort that Bob Cornuke and Chuck Missler had
already talked about years ago. I mean, it's just so many things,
dude, that I believe the exact location of the temple is somewhere in the
city of David, which is the equivalent of saying, oh, I went
to Temecula or you know, think of wherever city that you're at right now.
If you go to the city, that's one thing, but if you
go to the old town of that city, that's another. So I think
that's what the city of David is. I think the city of David is
like the old town of Israel. And I think the original location of the
temple is somewhere in the city of David, not on the Temple Mount,
and I believe that's where Jesus is going to rebuild the Third the real third
Temple. So they keep talking about, oh, they're going to rebuild the
temple. Well, if they do, it's gonna be a fabrication. It's
gonna it's gonna be a fake. It's not going to be the real deal.
Because the gui Home spring, the Gihon spring, was required for ceremonial
purposes, right going back to the cleanliness, they didn't mess around with that
stuff. You know, they had to have fresh water access like as soon
as possible, right, So the temple would have been built as close as
possible to the Gihon Spring, which it was so, and now they're saying
it. There's people archaeologists that are going over there today and they're talking about
there's a like a dump site. There's a bunch of other stuff that no
one could care less about, you know, but the Gihon Spring is like
a little tourist thing and like people just walk by it and it's like this
thing. It goes unnoticed and everyone is focused on the Temple Mount. I'm
telling you it's I think Bob Cornewk and Chuck Muster were dead on. I
think the actual location, whenever it's going to be, it's they're going to
realize that, oh, actually the location is over here, which would mean
all this nonsense and all this political drama that we've been experiencing for the past
hard many decades is all going to be meaningless. And the Muslims go ahead
and have out of boys. It's hears take it because it's not going to
mean anything. And the actual holy site's going to be probably about six hundred
seven hundred yards south of the Temple Mount, I believe, is what Josephas
said in his writings. That's interesting. Yeah, I'm looking at it old
picture where the city of David. Then the pool of Siloam is off to
the southwest again in spring is to the east. The Temple mount obviously at
the top. Yeah, the Bible says what second Corinthians that they built at
Mount Maria, right, Mariah, I believe. I believe, So I
believe. So I'm not sure about that. Yeah, that's crazy, man.
And yeah, so I had that one and then I was going to
tell you another, but another one. Oh yeah, this is a very
interesting come back to the throne U sitting above the firmament Um in Revelation chapter
six, verse thirteen through verse sixteen. It basically, Um, I'll just
read it to you real quick. This is gnarly, man, this is
insane like and this is Revelation six. What was the versus again, thirteen
through six, So again talking about the glass darkly? Right, So I
believe that this entire time, And then people can call me arrogant or whatever.
You know, that's a lot that you're claiming, calling like whatever.
I don't care. Um, I believe that this entire time, most of
most people have been looking at the Bible through a clouded lens or a glass
darkly, um think of it. The best better way to put it would
be like, let's say you and your wife are at home, right and
your wife says, hey, honey, could you get me pour me a
glass of water out of the jug on the counter. And you're like,
sure, babe, So you get up, You walk into the kitchen.
There's two jugs sitting on the counter. You go to grab the jug,
thinking that's full of water in your arms, shoots up real quick, but
it's actually empty. It's the one you guys already used. It's the other
jug that's full of water. I think it's like that. I think we've
been looking at the Bible through a distorted lens, thinking a misconceived perception.
And I think once we get a grasp of what how to read the Bible,
I think it's going to come alive like we've never seen before. So
chapter six, verse thirteen, let's see. It says, oh yeah,
and the stars of heaven fell to the earth, which that in and of
itself, should either wake you up or not, like if you believe.
If you believe the stars or massive balls of burning gas, we're all dead
right right. But if they are what it says in the Bible says God
made the sun moon on the fourth day, and then he also made the
stars. It's like, and he put everything in the firmament, in the
firmament, and remind me to go back to that what I just talked about.
After this, says, as a fig tree drops its late figs when
it is shaken by a mighty wind, then the sky receded as a scroll
when it is rolled up. And every mountain and island was moved out of
its place. And the kings of the earth, the great men, the
rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, basically everybody, every slave
and every freeman hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains,
and said to the mountains, and the rocks fall on us, and
hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne, and from
the wrath of the lamb. But the great day of the wrath has come,
and who is able to stand? So I think what's happening there is
people are gonna understand something. First of all, you're talking about most of
the people, all these people that are clearly standing snubbing their nose at God.
Right, So these people are pagans, they're satanic, they're whatever,
these people that don't like God. Right, Otherwise, why are they saying,
hide me from the one who sits on the throne? So first of
all, why are they bringing up the fact that he's sitting on a throne.
So the only thing that comes to my mind is that because it says
that the firmament rolls up like or the sky rolls up like a scroll,
meaning it disappears, so that means that they are now able to see him.
So just like Ezekiel when he said that he looked like through a sapphire,
and he said it looked to be someone sitting on a throne and above
him, like a likeness of of a man or whatever high above. So
I think revelation Revelation sixteen is talking about the same thing that Ezekiel saw,
but the differences is that now everything is out of the way so you can
see it clearly. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense to me, like why
would these people be talking about And plus I think it's talking about the father
sitting on the throne and then the lamb, so they're actually seeing two characters.
They're seeing God and his son, And I think Jesus is about to
come down and open up a can. Yep, I don't think you're right.
It's crazy on it's it's bizarre, dude, indeed. And that's something
you know I read, Um, I've read Genesis since I've came to understand
in my opinion that the lies of the heliocentrism, uh, the heliocentrist model
is um that you really do going back to what you said, you read
the Bible and you take it from a different perspective. A lot of times
you think that's just you know, it's an old story, right then that's
what a lot of people still think. I've been in gatherings in churches where
people, you know, they still talk about the Big Bang theory, and
we have to take we just can't pick and choose God's word. We you
know, in my opinion, I think we have to accept it all as
it is or not. Yeah, I agree. And also right after that
Versus sixteen or seventeen, it was chapter seven, it says this going back
to this goes ties back to the Raisin. See where I was saying about
the lower three fifths or square and then it talking about the four corners of
the earth, that's right, and the four winds right right, So yeah,
it's so bizarre. So chapter seven it says, after these things,
I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the Earth, holding the
four winds of the Earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth,
on the sea, or any tree. So I you know, now
that the firmament's out of the way and you can see everything, you're you're
able to see the four corners or whoever it is. I guess they're in
a vision or something. Seeing John sing in the vision, he's seeing these
four corners. After the sky rolls up like a scroll, you know,
people cry out. So it's very interesting. Um and talking back about I
brought this up to Scipio and he said he agreed. He said the same
thing, uh in Genesis, just in the very beginning, dude, the
very beginning of Genesis. And this is what's what you're planning to be a
Christian? You planning to Oh I love God and I read the Bible blah
blah blah. I's like, yeah, okay, that's fine, because it's
I think your microphone went down your shirt there there you go, Sorry that
you're good brother. Oh yeah, it talks about the first three days.
It's very strange. The first three days there is light, right, and
God keeps track of the days, right, Yeah, But the sun and
the moon and the stars they're not created until the fourth day. So the
question is, okay, so if God's keeping track of the days, then
what does that say? Like, so is that saying that the sun,
moon and stars basically just help us govern the day, but they don't dictate
the day? Do you see what I'm saying? Like, it's it's bizarre.
It's it's saying that, let see if I could find it. Yeah,
Genesis one fourteen says and God said, let there be lights in the
firmament of the heaven to the day from the night, and let them be
for signs, seasons, and for days and for years. Yeah. So
so it's like, first of all, what is this light? Is it
just the light from God himself? It's interesting because it's not coming from the
sun. You see what I'm saying. So, in other words, the
days are are going to happen regardless of the sun and the moon. It's
just that I think he puts the sun in the moon and the stars,
he puts them there. I guess for us and to help prove his prophecies
and all that stuff. Yeah, And I think he's also in that in
that verse, he's saying, basically, just like the ancients. You know,
it's funny, Wikipedia and all these sources make you think that you know
the people prior to you know, let's say, pre Reformation, we're just
archaic and they were cavemen, and they didn't know what they were doing.
And the fact of the matter is, somewhere even maybe in that Reformation time
frame, there was a great vast of there was a time I don't know
when, I can't place it, but when when a lot of the common
knowledge amongst people um slowly and surely was pulled from them. Because it was
a skyclock, people could know what season it was, what day it was,
when it was noon, when the sun was directly overhead. People use
that as a clock and as a calendar as well. Yeah. And also
going back to the Brazen Sea talks about where is it um, the guy
was it a has either? I think it was a hash. He stole
the stuff. Yeah. Second Kings, chapter twenty five or thirteen states that
the Chaldeans broke apart the two pillars, the brazen sea, and the carts
and took it all, right, because this is like choice bronze. This
is all the best bronze you can get. So I guess it was like
cleaner and brighter or something. I don't know. They took it away,
along with the silver, the gold, utensils, etc. You're talking massive
amounts of wealth. And the guy, I think it was a has Let
me see if I can find if I wrote it down. Yeah, I
think it's a Haas, who was the king of Judah. Yeah, this
is uh yeah, so Second Kings, chapter sixteen, verse seventeen. And
he took down the sea from the bronze oxen that were under it and put
it on a pavement of stones. So to me, this sounds like when
God brings a new Earth, like I was telling you earlier, after this
one gets destroyed, um, and then the earth is going to be removed
from its foundation, which would mean that it is, you know, falling
away. So that's just I don't know, it's just something I noticed.
All these things are just so bizarre, they're very peculiar, and like Chuck
Missler always said, and this is something that's always stuck with me. He
said, if you're ever reading the Bible, and he instructed, he said,
you know, go to God, have him teach you and ask you
to show you. And that's basically why I start off every Bible session like
I said I did. He said, when you come across something in the
Bible and it seems odd or it seems like it doesn't really fit, he
said, but you can tell there's something there, he said, keep digging
because there's usually he said, there's something profound that you just haven't understood yet,
so you just have to keep researching it in the Bible. And boy
was he right, Like he's that's exactly what it is. Like, you
come across something, you're like, well, that's odd, Like we'll keep
reading. That's why it's important to read your entire Bible from cover to cover.
You can't. That's why I told my mom. I was like,
you cannot rely on some guy, some pastor, to just keep beating you
the same sermons. You know, wash Rents repeat, wash Rents repeat.
You can't. You got to read it yourself, dude, Like the only
way you know, because the Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit's gonna talk to George.
Holy Spirit's gonna talk to me, Holy Spirit's going to talk to every
single person who humbles themselves and submits themselves and goes before the Lord and worships
and reads the Bible. He's going to speak to you on your terms and
how you can understand it. You can't rely on some dude, you know
what I mean. Like, it's just if you do that, if you're
relying on someone else to tell you something, then you're opening yourself up for
deception. And Jesus gives a direct commandment saying do not let yourselves be deceived.
And I try to remember to tell everybody every podcast this is my opinion.
I highly encourage everyone to research for themselves. I'm sure a lot of
the podcasts I've done they've never heard of some of these subjects. But take
the information I give you and research it for yourself. I'm a human being.
I make mistakes, and whether I know it or not, whether you
know it or not, we all come at different things with personal agenda.
Not agenda is like it's diabolical, but it's just the way we perceive it.
It may not you guys, may not perceive it the same way.
So it's important that you know whenever you listen to a podcast, or you
listen to a preacher or a pastor, or you're you're at a lecture from
a business person. It's important that you take notes, but at the same
time, make sure you research it for yourself because nobody's perfect. Absolutely um,
And I was gonna say, I'm not I'm not going to plug anything
because but I am going to be coming out with a I'm coming out with
this thing of a book I'm trying to do is basically my own I guess
you'd call it autobiography, but it's it is strictly it's all faith based.
And I'm telling you, man, I for the longest time in my life,
I thought I it was just well, you know, it was a
Christian thing and weird things happen to Christians. But now that I'm like,
what forty one, I'm realizing that, No, the things that I've gone
through in my life are absolutely bizarre. I should have died probably three or
four times, and the Lord has preserved me for what. I have no
fricking clue. But I'm talking crazy stuff, man, supernatural stuff that we
could get into if you want to. I don't know you, but yeah,
we still have another twenty minutes or so. Go ahead, Yeah,
okay, so real quick, levin Missouri, anyone shout out to anyone who's
in Missouri. I don't have to tell you this, but you guys know
that there's all kinds of satanic and demonic activity in Missouri, a lot of
devil worshippers, a lot of nonsense. But when I was in Missouri,
um, so I this book that I'm going to publish her pretty soon.
It's I haven't in chronological order, right. So from the time I think
I told you about when I asked my mom, my mom to get saved,
and she stopped cooking dinner and she led me to Christ. I think
I was five. Now I don't I don't know. I still don't remember
why I did that, why I had an inclination to do that. I'm
sure it was, you know something, because my mom used to read the
Bible to us, like religiously. She would read King James. She would
read King James to her kids, and I'm so grateful she did. I
am. I am certain that because I can still remember sitting on the floor
in the living room in her little house and on West Hayes in Lebanon,
and she would be reading and I would try to understand, right, I
was trying to understand this old English, and so just me focusing and trying
to understand what she's saying. I think it did kind of sharpen my comprehension
and my ability to grasp or you know, understand or whatever. So I'm
sure it was something like that. She'd probably read a story in the Bible,
or or he went to church or something, and you know, that
night I went and said I wanted to get saved, but yeah, I've
I have literally seen I remember I was worshiping. I was worshiping the Lord.
I got saved, and then we got baptized, right and then after
I got baptized, I remember feeling elated. I was probably five or six,
and I was so happy and I felt like I was floating going through
the pews, you know. And I remember going home and it was like
in the middle of the day and I just got this feeling. I said,
you should get up and go praise God, and I just said,
okay, So I got up and I went out to our front yard and
it was in the middle of the day, like probably twelve two o'clock or
something. I got down on my knees. What's interesting is that it's exactly
what Solomon does when he builds like this. It sounds like it's like a
plateau or a table or something that he builds and then he gets up on
top of it and stands on top of it, and then he, you
know, the whole congregation of Israel's before him, and then he gets down
on his knees on the top of this table and he spreads his hands out
and his arms opened wide to Heaven, and he started praising God and saying,
you know, there's no one like you, you know, bless this
nation. We are wholehearted, you know, towards you, this, that,
and the other. That's kind of what I was doing in my limited
grasp of understanding as a five or six year old. I was literally doing
that. I was in her front yard. I was on my knees,
and I remember lifting my hands up and I was just praying to God.
I was like so happy. And what's really creepy is that as soon as
I did that, I remember feeling something to probably my seven or eight o'clock
and it, I mean, the best way I could describe it is.
M take the feeling. If you don't, we've been on a roller coaster.
Sure that feeling you get, Yeah, you're feeling. You get on
a roller coaster right before the draw. Mix that with you take two maggots
and try to push him together, and you get that invisible resistance you can.
You combine those two together. And that's kind of what I was feeling.
It was very bizarre. It like it woke me up instantly. It
stopped me from what I was doing, which was the whole purpose of the
enemy is because the devil he loathes and he detests that, because that's actually
what he wants, Like at the end of the day, that's what he's
after. He's after to get treated exactly like God. So I was doing
that in my yard and I remember I looked, I looked him back to
my left, and this old woman was standing as close as she possibly could
to our front yard, but she was still standing in the street and she
was staring at me. Bro she oh, man, it's scared the crap
out of me. Like I stopped everything I was doing, and I remember
just instinctively I got up and I like backed away from her. But I
can still remember looking at her. I could tell then, even then,
I could tell that there was something up with this lady because she looked like
she was about eighty. But I could tell by look by her eyes.
Looking at her eyes, it was almost like something was looking at me through
an old woman costume or something. I mean, it was oh dude,
I'm telling you, it gives me the hebe gebs. But she and then
she said she said hello, like like trying to get me to come next
to her, and I was like hi, and I just kind of backed
up. And then I immediately ran to our front door, which took me
all of about four seconds. And I immediately turned around, thinking, you
know, she might be behind to grab me or something. I turned around
and homegirl was gone, like straight up disappeared, and she was wearing all
black. She had all black on, and she had like a shawl like
something was covering her head. But I could still see your face, oh
dude. And and then I think that that night, I believe I said
a prayer to God and I started crying. I was sleeping on my left
side. I was asking God to just I wanted to be with him,
you know. I was so happy to get saved, and I just wanted
to be with him. I was crying. I cried myself to sleep.
The next day, I believe, I go to the backyard and I lay
down in the backyard, and I remember I started like to drift off.
I was like daydreaming or something, and I had my hands behind my head.
I was just thinking about everything right, Like how bizarre the things were.
The old woman getting saved, you know, feeling close to God.
And I swear to you, the clouds they slowly opened, and this old
man walks out holding a staff in his right hand. He didn't have a
covering on his head, but it looked it's gonna sound corny, but he
looked very similar to how Charlton Heston looked in the Ten Commandments. But it
wasn't a white guy. It was He looked middle Eastern. He looked like
his skin looked like beef jerky. He looked like he looked really old.
He looked at least eighty or ninety years old, and his hair was all
white. He had a really pronounced long beard. His beard was white,
but his eyebrows seemed to be dark, which I thought was interesting. And
he had a robe that looked to be like red, brown, yellow orange
colors, but they didn't have any sleeves, and I could see that he
was wearing a garment underneath the robe. So I have no idea who that
was. I mean, I can speculate. I don't know. I've prayed
about it many times. I don't know what it means. Like I said,
I'm not anybody special, but God showed me that for some reason.
And also maybe one of your listeners knows what this means. The old man
took his staff, so from my perspective land on the ground, he was
about an inch he's about an inch tall, and he took his staff,
he raised it up and he moved it across his body towards his left,
and then as he did that, he turned to his left and then went
back inside the clouds. And he didn't say nothing. That's all he did.
That's all I saw. And it lasted about i'd say ten seconds,
maybe less, something like that. So I don't know. I don't know
what it means. I've prayed multiple times about it, and God, I
guess he's reserving it to tell me. I don't know. But and but
that those events happened like within twenty four hours of each other, probably two
or three days or something. I'm not exact, but yeah, they all
happened in Lebanon, like shortly after I got saved, I believe, and
and so in this book, I've written chronological order, like there's thirty different
scenarios, thirty different incidences, and I've drawn. I've illustrated every single one.
So you know, I'm not the greatest artist, but I've got some
skills. I can draw pretty good, So I've drawn so basically the best
I can for my memory. I've drawn what I've seen, what I remember,
and some of them are absolutely gnarly bro Like I saw a bum we
call me and my buddies call him sky Talker out here. I don't know
if he's still alive, but I saw this guy morph into a demon.
Me and my brother were coming from my house. We were going to go
smoke pop with my buddy. This is when I was probably I don't know,
twenty three or something. I was driving my truck, my Forward Ranger,
and it was probably a ten or eleven o'clock at night. We were
in Vista, California at this time, and I'd already seen this dude,
this bum, this guy sky talker. I'd already seen him twice, and
every single time he would literally one time he stopped in mid sentence and walked
away because I was I was approaching him, and then my buddy RJ he
was talking to he stopped a mid sentence, turned and went the opposite direction,
and RJ was like, what the heck they call him? What'd you
do? I was like, uh, And I got that same feeling,
that same feeling I told you about what the old woman and I was praising
the Lord. I got kind of the same feeling in my chest. I
could feel I could like sense him and guaranteed he could sense me too,
and he just took off. And then the other time I met him in
Jack in the Box and he like, oh man, it's just so creepy,
like when you encounter true evil. It's it's it's sobering. Yeah,
yeah, it's and I'm sure you have you know and whatever you've experienced.
Um, so yeah that. But the third time I met him, I
can only imagine he was trying to get me to wreck my truck because I
mean, my brother were driving. He like, I said, ten eleven
o'clock at night. He comes from my left and he like goes up on
the hood of my truck, and you know, it's it's dark, like
there's no lights. I can't see it. He appears out of nowhere.
So I'm doing about twenty twenty five miles an hour, turning left onto a
street, and right as I do that, he comes out from my left
plants himself on my hood. The headlights light up his torso and his face
and I see for a split second it's a sky talker. And then I
as soon as I realize it's him, I see him, dude, I
see him turn into a demon like like he literally turned into like a bat.
Was it was. His eyes went jet black from eyelid to eyelid,
and he grew teeth that looked like giant thorns. I mean it was.
It was bizarre. Like I froze. I thought I was gonna kill him.
I thought I was gonna run him over. And he rode with me
for about a second or two, and then he just kind of went off
to my right or to his left and nothing like. I freaked out.
I almost had a heart attack. Like if I if that happened to me
now, I would have had a heart attack, but I was like twenty
three so and my brother lifted up from the floorboard. He said, what
the bleep was at because he knew something happened. Because I literally froze,
like I froze, I thought I was gonna kill him. I didn't hit
the brakes or nothing, and I went and parked at the gas station.
I got out, I checked my truck. Not a single scratcher dent.
So the only thing I can think of is that he was like hovering.
I don't know. I don't know how he did it because I was doing
at least twenty twenty five miles an hour, so I should have ran that
fall over, but I didn't. Like That's what I mean, bro,
My life is riddled with stuff like that, just being attacked by the enemy,
you know. And I could go on and on about all kinds of
encounters that there's no doubt in my mind. I know for a fact,
Like me personally, I know for a fact that the Bible is true because
everything has happened to me supernaturally. The only thing that can explain it is
the Bible, you know, not the not the Book of Mormon, not
the Um. What is it the one in India, the bug, amount
of vita or whatever it's malled like. None of those things, dude,
None of that stuff explains what I've been through. Except for the Holy Bible.
That's really interesting. Um, it's mesmerizing almost listening to you tell those
stories. I do want to ask you one more question before we start to
wind down. What is it with Lebanon, Missouri? If you put that
into your Google search, you'll see is the Devil in Lebanon, Missouri Satan's
last stand? And then um, Satanic panic in Missouri it never really left.
And that story is as recent as December twenty twenty two. Wow,
I don't even know that. Yeah, it's all over the news from from
twenty fourteen to twenty twenty two, the last eight years is and then a
lot of the stories include I'm not sure if you're familiar with a Hillcrest Baptist
Church. Are they the ones that had the Nastbury Bible? Possibly? Oh
wait, that was the one in Kentucky, right, I don't know.
Yeah, I think that was in Kentucky and they ended up shutting it down
because of COVID or something, right, Yeah, but yeah, it's really
interesting you put Lebanon, Missouri in there, and there's a lot of stories
about that. That's very interesting. Yeah, I'm telling you, man,
I've I've experienced so many things I tell my friends and looked me like I
got something grown out of my face, like it's it's just it's bizarre,
man. Just I've had out of body experiences. Yeah, just just wild,
crazy stuff. Well, listen, the enemy is real, and I
think he can tell you know people who were true warriors of Christ. And
yeah, obviously there's something about you that draws draws them to you. I
think you're right. Yeah. Oh, and the last one real quick before
we go. I don't know how many people have seen the shadow person.
And this is kind of to wrap it up what I saw, not This
is the best I can describe it. It was an out of body experience
and we were staying at my now my ex were divorced, but at the
time we went down to her friend's house down and I believe it was Incinita's
and we were staying in her house and she had to go somewhere the next
morning, so she said we it was okay for us to sleep at her
pad, to sleep in her bed, I was like, all right,
sweet, So we go to sleep. I wake up, but in my
mind, like I remember waking up in my dream, I guess you could
call it. And I'm looking at my body, but I can hear myself
breathing. I'm gonna I can hear myself breathing. And then all of a
sudden, I look and the entire room that we're in is the color of
plasma. It's the best way to describe it, as like if you were
to wear rose colored glasses. But everything in the room was the same.
So it was literally like the upside down like in that show The Stranger Things.
He was literally like that. But what's weird is that I could sense
that something was about to walk into the room because we left her bedroom door
open, and I remember I was like, I think I was either hovering
about my chest from my face. I couldn't really tell, but I remember
panning to my right and I focused on the door, the bedroom door,
and then I could hear my heart boom boom boom, and I started breathing
heavier and heavier because I could tell something was coming to the door. And
then all of a sudden, and walks this shadow person like he owned the
place. Like he walked in like nonchalantly, just swinging his arms, and
as he turned to his left, he saw me, and I followed him
with my eyes. I just, I just I stared at him, and
as he turned, he could tell that I saw him. As soon as
he saw that, he jumped back like a fricking cat, actually quicker than
a cat, almost like something out of a Japanese animation cart. Dude,
like he moved faster than anything I've ever seen in my life. So he
jumped back like like real quick, back through the door. And then I
followed him back to the door with my eyes, and then I woke up,
right. It scared the crapping. I woke up, and then I
was looking with my real eyes and everything was the same, and I knew
exactly what had just happened. I was like, what the f and I
called out. I was like, show yourself and nothing is laid there it
was, I'm telling you, bro, I don't know, That's what I
mean. I can't explain it. I don't know what it was that I
saw. If I saw some dimension or something, why it was plasma color,
I don't know, but I saw and he was the only thing that
was black, the shadow person. He was like like a silhouette of a
person but filled in with like Microsoft paint or something like. He was solid
black. And yeah, it was very strange. And I'm sure that government
listening right now. NSA. They're probably like, oh, we're need to
go get this guy, because I've heard about projects where they try to see
if people can do certain things like that. Yeah, if there's some people
out there receptible to things like that, and you certainly seem like one of
those people. And by the way, shout out to the NSA. They're
big fans. I love it when you do the on the show's son.
They're always listening. Yeah, what a story, and do you have an
idea? I'm sure like mine's been a work in progress for some time,
but you have an expected completion date of your book or when you're hoping to
release that and where people will be able to find it. Well, I've
already written it. I've got about twenty six, about twenty five or twenty
six of the drawings completed, and I'm basically just coloring them with colored pencils
and stuff and going back over with like a fine, really fine ink,
like the things that you've seen in your life that we've discussed, you made
drawings of them. Yes, Oh wow, that's gonna be incredible. Oh
it's crazy, bro Like, it's so crazy that my family they're scared to
look at it because they I don't know, I guess it makes them feel
uncomfortable or something when you tell them these things. Do they do they believe
you? I think my mom does, I honestly to god, I don't
think my other siblings do. And I can't blame them because it's so bizarre.
It's literally like something out of a movie, but but crazier because it's
Yeah, I mean, it's again, it's just too much to get into.
But I'll finish it. Um, I'll probably, I don't know.
Do you have a recommendation who I should go with with publishing? Should a
self publisher? Well, it's the first book I've ever done, so yeah,
there's a few out there I can I'll send an email later a few
different ones that you can send your book to. I know Rose Publishing is
one who who will do alternative But I also know David Gaherry, who was
the founder of Speak Free Radio. He has his own publishing company as well.
He may be interested. I'll send you a link here in the next
couple or an email with a couple of links for you to check out.
You know, Amazon is when most people go to. You know, of
course there's the pluses and the minuses with that, but I mean, obviously
you're gonna have a vast audience there. But I'm gonna I'm gonna title it
decided on. The title is going to be through a glass unveiled, kind
of touching on what we talked about earlier, through glass darkly. So thanks,
George. I really appreciate a man. You're You're an awesome dude,
and um, uh it's an honor, it really is to speak to someone
like you, because I believe today there's so few like legit patriots that actually
have the guts to let it all hang out, and you're one of them,
you know. So um, if you were some hill or some clown,
I wouldn't even waste my time talking to you. But I think you're
the real deal, and uh, it's it's been a blast talking to you,
man. I appreciate it. If I ever start selling vit him and
stop listening to me, I'm just kidding. But it's been a it's been
an honor. And you know, every I get so many emails, and
each and every one of them I'm I'm very humbled and thankful for But I
always have remembered your email because it was so unique. And I remember going
to Google the old Google machine and putting in the Brazen Sea. And then
because again, the Bible is such a huge book, and there's some things
no matter how many times you read it, you kind of forget about,
and then you go back into Chronicles and Kings and read about it and Solomon's
Temple, and then you realize when you read that, and then the mockery
it's I think it's twofold because I remember, right after Biden won the election,
the vice the VP, what's her name, Kamala, she put out
a tweet of her walking somewhere in the White House. It had the black
and white check aboard floor, and then it had in the in the picture
it had two columns and then I forget what the tech said. It said
something yeah, and it was part mockery, but at the same time it
was almost part we've got knowledge that you guys, you know that you don't
have. And I think the Illuminati illuminated the controllers, so and so forth.
The Zionists, we can Jesu it's whatever. It's an information war.
It is an info war, and it's you know, the people the top
have knowledge, but at the same time that the one thing that we have
that they don't is Jesus Christ. They think, here's the difference. This
is how what I try to tell people is the Luciferians. And that's what
Bill Cooper called him, and he was right. They are Luciferians. We
can argue if they're Jews, if they're Jesuits, blah blah blah. They're
Luciferians. They believe this is the psychopathic thing abottom. They believe they are
doing good. They believe Lucifer was the hero that freed Adam and Eve from
the garden. That's how they look at that whole situation. And then I'm
really excited to have in July we're having Gary wayne On who wrote the book
about Genesis six, because that in itself is quite a story, so really
really interesting stuff. But I can't thank you enough for coming on. When
you do end up release in your book, i'd like to have you back
on down the road, so you can. You know you should advertise it,
you should, you know you should voice it. I'd love to have
you back on down the road. I'd love to do it, man.
Thanks George, all right, thank you so much, brother, It's been
an honor you too,