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This is pod Popular Podcast for the
People, Great Love Debates. It's Great

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Love Debate, the Great Love Debate. It's a great loved to base.

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Hi again, everyone is Brian how
We welcome to the Great Love Debate,

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the world's number one dating in relation
podcast since twenty fifteen. I am coming

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here from the very fine studios of
Pod Popular Podcasts for the People. I

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am back at the one in Boca
Ratone, Florida. It's a lovely time

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of year, but as I record
this, it's also scorpio season. As

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they say, I had a birthday, and the amount of oh you're a

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scorpio dwarfed the amount of happy birthdays. People really are bothered by it.

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I know we did a podcast on
I made that a couple of years ago.

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She did. But people are like, Eh, there really is audible

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scorpio discrimination. I don't even know
how to fight it. So I'm going

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to bring in my guest here.
She's very antsy. A couple of years

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ago, we had somebody named Mark
Wahlberg on this podcast. Not that Mark

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Wahlberg, the other one, Mark
L. Wahlberg. He was the host

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of a show called Temptation Island,
and he was a really interesting guest.

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You can google look through the archives
of it. He was great. And

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the thing that was surprised me about
him was he really cared about his cast

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I found that fascinating. He really
wanted them to be happy. He really

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wanted things to work out. He
wasn't just trying to stir the pot.

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My guest here, however, did
stir the pot, and she was lured

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into possibly stirred the pot. She
was on the most recent season of Temptation

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Island, which is on What USA
USA Network. Yeah, she's got a

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lot to say. I asked her
for that. I asked her if there's

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anything she didn't want to talk about. She looked like I was nuts.

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The lovely Marjorie Garotcha, how are
you good? Thanks for having me.

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I'm so excited to be here.
And is a nice girl like you end

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up on Temptation Island? You know, I've actually I've always been casted for

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TV shows, and they're all unscripted. As much as people want to believe

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that they're scripted, they're not.
So. I was on MTV when I

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was oh my god, this it's
two thousand and fourteen. I was not

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fourteen, and it was two thousand
and fourteen for a totally different like it

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almost like a dating show, but
it was about me being like a virgin,

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embarrassing like a virgin, or literally
a version. I was still a

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virgin in high school. Yeah,
so ever since it, yeah thanks,

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so ever since that, I just
connected with one of the girls that reached

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out to me and I stayed in
touch with her. She actually did Big

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Brother. She's like my casting agent, I would say, because she would

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always reach out to me and be
like, Hey, do you want to

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do the Bachelor? Hey, do
you want to do this? Do you

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want to do that? So I've
been casted for years and I've been flown

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out to La twice to do other
shows that I didn't know the name of

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it at the time because sometimes they
just don't release the names right. So

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it's been on my is, which
is a challenge that you're like, would

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you like to do? And they
they're kind of nebulous what it is.

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It's like a network dating It's usually
always a dating show. And I was

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always in an on and off relationship
with the same person, So anytime she

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would approach me like hey, are
you singles? Do you want to go

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on a dating show. I'm like, hell, yeah, let me find

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my soulmate, you know, like
on a dating show, because like this

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guy sucks or whatever. Our longtime
producer of this podcast, the two time

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Emmy Award winning Keko. She is
the reality television producer and she even casts

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shows a lot where she says,
I'm trying to cast these people. I

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can't say the name of it and
I can't say the network. Yeah,

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you're trying to get people to buy
in and say, uh yeah, I

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want to do this Temptation Island.
Though it was on years and years ago,

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it took a hiatus, it's come
back. Were you familiar with the

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show? I was, And actually
I knew a kid the year before that

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win on that show. Oh so
like he was a like we were just

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like friendly and he was kind of
like approaching, meaning he's like, Hey,

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I'm going to go to Hawaii to
film a TV show. I was

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like, okay, best of luck. And then one year later I got

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cast for that show and I was
like, oh my god, you're not

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going to believe it. I was
just casting for this show and I'm going

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to go And this is so wild
because he's from the same area. As

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me. So the premise of that
show is they have some couples who may

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or may not be in healthy relationships
and they bring in some people to tempt

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them. Yeah, so you were
a temp temptress? Is that determined?

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They call it tempty at temptee?
Yeah, so okay, so you were

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a temptee and do you know what
do they tell you, like, just

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go at it? And are you
basically testing the stability of the relationship or

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you're like, I'm going to see
if I can steal that guy? What

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is the mojo there? I'm pretty
sure that's what they probably expect to happen.

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And everybody's like there's so many different
personalities, so obviously during the casting

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process they probably look at that and
like picked like the best girls with like

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who's like willing to go out there
and get it. But like I was

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just like, if I like the
person, I will do my part because

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I have been single for a really
long time and I do want my soulmate.

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But like, once I got in
there, I just felt like I

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had no connection with the boys,
that that wasn't my m o. But

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if you do a connection, they're
in a relationship. Yeah, there,

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well have you ever broken up somebody's
relationship before? Have you ever stolen a

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guy before? Probably? I don't
think so. I've been in drama with

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like ex girlfriends of like guys when
like I've been down, the girlfriend has

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popped up and like been emotional and
I'm like, what do you want me

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to do about it? But like, or you've been in a relationship and

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the right the girl comes around and
you'll be like, this is my man,

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what are you doing? So don't
the women by nature like get the

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fuck away from my dude. I'm
totally like that. I would say I've

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definitely changed a lot. But like
in college, when I was dating the

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guy I was dating and he was
in a frat, the girl's in a

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sorority, and I went up there. There was like so much drama.

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The girl was like trying to say
that they were a thing, and I'm

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like, girl, like he's my
man or whatever. There was like the

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biggest drama. And I've had happened
that before. But you know, it's

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always a challenge because you want to
date somebody who other people desire you do

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that is the goal. You want
somebody who is desirable to other people.

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You know, want somebody who'd be
like, nobody wants that person. Well,

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I don't think of it that way. Well you got to be like,

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oh, everybody wants my man,
but he's with me. I don't

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think of it that way. Well, how do you think of it?

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Then I just go from the person
that I'm truly interested in. If you

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have like the things that I'm looking
for, then I'm interested in you.

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If you don't, then you're a
loser and I'm not interested in it.

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Oh. I agree with that.
But some people can't handle the fact that

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other people might want their spouse,
and I would been like, well,

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who wouldn't want them? They're awesome, you know, and that's a bound.

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Some people are just naturally jealous and
some people aren't. I think it

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is validating when somebody wants my partner, you know. I think it's it's

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like, of course they do feel
like a healthy jealousy, is what you're

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saying. Yeah, I think it's
like like just validation. She's leaving with

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me. Yeah, she's my girl. I'm leaving with her, so good.

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I get that. But the purpose
of that show these people going on.

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I don't question the people who are
the temptees. I more questioned the

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people that are like, We're going
to go on the show and see if

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some hotty can break us up.
I would never bring my spouse on that

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show. I wouldn't either. I
went there as a single, and I've

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even thought about it so many times, like should I go on this?

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There was a point where I was
just going to back out because I'm like,

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how's this going to make me?
Look? But I mean I went

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and yeah, where where do you
film this show? We were in Hawaii?

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So literally an island. Yeah,
we were literally on an ale.

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Do you know had you been to
Hawaii before? No? Okay, well,

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South Florida, you know, go
to Hawaii. The beaches are nice.

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Did they tell you ahead of time
that you're going to go to Hawaii?

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Yeah, we already knew. So
even when I was being casted for

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the show, I already knew what
the show was right away and where it

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was going to be filmed. Do
they tell you how long you're going to

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be gone? They said it could
be potentially up to a month. So

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I pretty much packed like three bags
for like a month. So they tell

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you how much clothes to bring.
They actually it's a whole process. You

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have to take a photo of you
wearing every single outfit you're going to bring

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for them to approve it and send
it like in an email, and then

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they tell you what they want you
to like bring, like you can't wear

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stuff with logos on it, Yeah, stuff like that. But they also

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want to know that you're going to
look good because you have to be properly

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tempting, right, I assume so, and I guess aesthetics, you know,

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they want to make sure not everybody's
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Like even when they came to our
room for our photo shoot, they

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like made me try on so many
different clothes for our photo shoot to make

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sure the girls were all like now, is are you assigned a couple that

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you're supposed to break up? Or
is it just a big pile? No,

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just a big pile. You just
like see who you're interested in,

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and you just like go and mingle. And actually, for the first time

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in Temptation history, we got to
mingle with the couples where like we met

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them and like everybody stayed in the
same house and we got to talk to

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like the girlfriends the boyfriends, and
it was just like not what everybody was

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expecting and how much alcohol is there. We're limited to like two or three

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drinks. Oh so they're not trying
to get you wasted. No, Okay,

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I'm here with Marjorie. She's talking
about Temptation Island. But I'm going

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to get into why I brought here
here, but that I really want to

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talk about on all this, I
will. I got to take a quick

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break because we have to pay for
trips to Hawaii and other things around here.

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We will be back right after this, and we are back. So

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here's why I brought you in.
It is a challenge in the business world.

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It is a challenge in the dating
world to balance you want to stand

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out and you want to be noticed. On the other hand, you don't

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want the attention of people who either
have no value to creep you out whatever.

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How do you balance your public life, your social media life, your

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reality TV life with attention and then
doesn't that part of that freak you out

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and been like, I don't want
anybody to notice. I want to be

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left alone. I don't want these
guys to bother me. I don't want

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these fans because suddenly when you go
on a reality show, it's not like

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you grow up being an actor and
actress singing or your son of you.

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Suddenly you have a lot of haters. Yeah, you have a lot of

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jealous women. You have a lot
of creepy dudes. How do you balance

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that with still I want to be
out there and be public and keep that

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balance. How do you do that? Honestly, I don't know myself,

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Like sometimes I just I have deactivated
my Instagram before. I won't do it

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now because I have so many things
that I want to like work on and

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like I aspire to be so much
more. But it is hard because if

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you see someone out like first I
used to get seen now and people would

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be like, oh, you're an
influencer, Marge, you're an Instagram Like

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I don't consider myself an influencer,
So I think that was always really like

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weird and awkward because guys always have
something bad to say about that, like

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something negative, when I don't even
thinking anything negative. But I don't know.

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It is tough. I don't really
know. We're all trying to influence.

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If you're a realtor with a with
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or you're a personal injury attorney with
a Billboard on ninety five. You're trying

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to stand out, be the the
that person, the influencer in your industry,

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in your personal life. You're also
trying to sort of cast a big

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net, capture the notice of people, and then sort of shuffle through it

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and been like these are the ones
I want, these are the discard pile.

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and you don't want to make anyone
feel like they're like you're like better than

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them. No, you know,
but I've come a long way with like

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just like relationship and friendships that like
if you aren't adding, like filling my

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cup, then I don't want you
around me. And it's not because of

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like you're not at the same wavelength
I am, as far as like status,

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like I've been on TV and you
haven't. It's just I need to,

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like I don't know state of myself
sometimes. So when you were in

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high school, were in high school
around here, Yes, I grew up

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here, Carefield Beach right down the
street, and you had some notoriety in

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high school. How did the high
school people react to that, I mean,

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she's not a virgin. Well,
honestly, it was like I was

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always like well known and popular.
I don't know why, like in middle

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school and in high school, and
a lot of the girls, like especially

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the cheerleaders, they did not like
me for whatever reason. But like I

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was that girl that always like put
herself together, always did my makeup for

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school, and you could never say
one negative thing about me other than like

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hate me for whatever, for my
physical because I was a virgin. I

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didn't sleep around with anybody, I
didn't get with anybody, but I was

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hated for no reason. Yeah,
no, I get that too. So

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does it bother you more, either
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women or comments from men, Like
what's worse the haters or the creepers?

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I mean they both, they're both
bad, I think men. I think

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men to talk like shit about girls
is just so weird, Like you're a

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man, like stay in your lane. They talk about what they can't get.

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Yeah, there's always like she's a
bitch, she's lesbian. I think

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that's really weird. They need to
come up with the reason why you're not

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interested in that. Yeah, because
girls are catty and envious. But like

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for a man to say something because
none of my I confide in my male

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friends because they're not envious and they're
men, they're not women. So for

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a man to say negative things about
me, which I've had said before with

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like other articles about me online,
like I think it's super weird. How

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do you not respond? Or do
you respond? I don't respond? Ever,

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did you No? I've learned of
my attorneys to not respond, but

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you must have at some point You'll
be like, I, it's really hard

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to keep your mouth shut. Oh
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and I'm like very confrontational, so
like I like to check people and put

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them in their place. But you
know, sometimes silence is like the best

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way to go. Is the reality
show that you thought about doing or got

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asked to do and you didn't do
it, and you're like, shit,

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I should have done amazing race after
the reality show, Like when I got

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eliminated first, I was like,
uh, I kind of regret going,

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but also I don't regret it because
I had such a great experience and I

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would like to do another show,
like another dating show. Are you eliminating?

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Is do they have an exclusive for
a certain amount of time? Like

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you can't go do the Bachelor for
like a year. Yeah, it's like

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six months. We have a contract
until after the air date, so you're

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home free. Maybe that was June. Yeah, yeah, okay, it's

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almost you're almost home free by the
time they start testing again. What did

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you what was different about the reality
TV experience than you expected? Did you

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get used to having all the cameras
around? What was what was like,

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what I was expecting, honestly because I've

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been on reality TV before, but
they came here to film me in my

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life. It was different than because
I got to live in a villa this

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time with people. But I guess
just really the fact that like they don't

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pressure you to do anything or say
anything like my producers or like in and

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out, just like chatting with us, making sure we're all good, and

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like you just go on and live
your life. And the camera people they're

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only there really at night for the
parties and it's like three men and the

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rest is just like cameras all around
the house that it's like filming you are

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you miked the whole time, You're
micd the whole time, so we're in

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the mic pack. So you literally
wake up, you get COVID tested and

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then you go into the room and
stay hi to your person. It's the

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guy in the morning of the girl. I really forgot their name. And

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then they just mic you up.
And then you go into the kitchen.

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You live your life like there's nobody
filming you, like going behind you miked

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up, miked up, that's the
first thing you have to do before you

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get inside the house. Huh,
COVID testing. So you did this,

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you film this during it was still
COVID going on. Well, I don't

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know if it was still really COVID. I don't know what Hawaii's regulations were

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them, but I guess they just
wanted to make sure like no one had

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COVID. So we had to get
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last year in two thousand and twenty
two. Yeah, right, so October

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I still doing that then, Jesus, it's crazy. Yeah, Bobby rules

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on it. Then that you forget
about the mics and the totally forget.

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Did you totally forget? Because you'll
be like talking like about somebody or like

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and next thing you know, you're
like, oh my god, they can

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hear me. You're like, oh, oh my god, I have to

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go pee, and then I'm like, hey, sorry, I'm saying this

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out. The mic is on you
all all the time. When you go

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pee, it's on you, Like
we got three cameras on us. Now

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I almost forgot that exactly. You
just forget So you didn't obviously find love

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on this? Yeah, and did
you? What did you learn about yourself?

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Though you're able to survive a flight
to Hawaii? I feel like I

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learned that I truly have come a
really long way because I have been in

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a back and forth relationship with my
ex boyfriend for like, legit four or

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five years. That like when I
put my foot down last year in August,

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the show was presented to me in
September, I filmed in October and

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being around those couples and just seeing
everybody's like reactions, and they were so

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reactive that I'm like, Wow,
I'm not like you guys, actually,

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like I've not in a bad way, but like the whole toxic relationship,

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I'm like, wow, I'm so
glad. That's like, but you weren't

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right, so you want to I
have been there, right, so I've

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realized that, like, wow,
I have evolved so much being here,

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like seeing the outsiders. I was
like, oh my god, I really

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have really come a long way.
So it became like almost like a friend

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to the boys, like for them
to confide in what was the most toxic

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thing about your toxic relationship? I
feel like just gaslighting and just like not

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really supportive. It just like one
day wanted to be with me and one

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day we didn't want to be with
me. But it was like on for

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five years. That's a long that's
a lot of days on, a lot

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of days off. It's a long. That's five years in your twenties too,

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right, that's a valuable time lash, yeah, one hundred percent.

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And you know you it's what's the
point, what's the point of going with

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that back and forth? Like just
end it and move on with your life.

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Right, But then they're like they
don't want you, but they don't

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want anybody else to have you.
And then you get into that exact question

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exactly, and then they are because
you are very public and they're watching you

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on your social media and then they're
like, oh, she looks good.

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That wasn't my access situation. I
would feel like, but I mean he's

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irrelevant anyways, I forget he exists. Thankfully after five years of back and

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forth. It's terrible. Now you're
forgettable after five years and back and forth.

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Should have been it's all long overdue. When you wake up in the

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morning, do you have you plotted
out your social media posts for the day?

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No? Are you going to give
them the OOTD? Are you going

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to like? Have you? Or
is it just oh, this is going

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to make good content? What is
the thought process for my social media posting?

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Yeah, honestly, I've changed my
social media posting too. I used

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to love like working with brands and
just like collaborating, but now I don't

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want to do that, so I'm
being really low key on social media.

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Now you're a brand, right,
So now I'm starting my own brand.

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I'm starting I'm launching a bikini line, so I want to focus on that.

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And I just don't want to be
posting the same content that I was

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posting before because that's just irrelevant.
And I've evolved so much so I don't

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plan anything out every single days.
And so how does one launch a bikini

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line? Because me and McKay in
the other room, we're probably not launching

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are you like? This is what
I want to war? And this doesn't

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exist or it's pretty much what I
look good in in this No, because

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you're Brazilian by descent, is that
accurate? Correct? Yeah? The Brazilians

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are the queens of the bikini.
We are and we love the beach.

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We love literally the beach, so
I love it here too. I'm always

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in a bikini, but yeah,
pretty much when I'm creating something that's like

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versatile, so it's you can be
worn like day or night. And it's

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not just bikinis, it's beach where
too. It's your work bikini. Pretty

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much going to the office, we
need in office bikini. Weear like Lulu

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Lemon made workout Woman Workout where functional
and fun exactly. You're on it all

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right, this is your first time
on this podcast. We play something called

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worst date or first date, So
you either have to give us the absolute

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worst date you've ever been on or
the best first date you've ever been on,

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your choice, and we hope we're
gonna have to think about this because

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I don't give people the time of
day. I haven't been on a day

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in a while, I know,
but you've been dating a long time,

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so it's like, what was the
worst date you've ever been on, or

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really the greatest first day you've ever
ready. Your choice doesn't have to be

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bad. It could be good or
bad. Honestly, I would say the

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best day that I've ever went on
was when one of my friends came down

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into town and we actually went We
had like a private tour in Miami with

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like all of the animals and we
got to hand feed one of the savannah

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cats. So that was it.
Like a zoo. It was a zoo.

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Yeah, I forgot the wild I
forgot the name of the zoo somewhere

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in Miami, but it was like
two years ago, Miami Zoo. I

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don't know if there is, but
it was like a private tour, like

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just us to the entire zoo.
Oh really yeah, it was really cool

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how they set that up. That's
a really good date. How they set

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that up. I mean he just
did it helps that men, it's private

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tours. Good for him. Yeah, men like animal. If a man

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likes an animal, women tend to
like that. Oh I love me a

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man that loves animals and a man
that's like a golden retriever pretty much like

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personality so loyal. Yeah, like
sweet those men those when to fetch not

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so much like I need you to
be like, you know, a man

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in like not be too emotional.
But yeah, I haven't been to that

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many zoos, but I think I
always think zoos are kind of mean.

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No, totally, but a lot
of the people who work at the zoos

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say they don't know anything else,
and they are treated most zoos so well.

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For sure. I asked all the
questions because I'm a huge animal lover,

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so when I was there, were
asked. I was asking them like

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all the questions like do you guys
take care of them? Do you guys

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like feed them daily? Do you
guys do this? And they really do.

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They do take care of the animals, of course, because I went

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to the aquarium in Atlanta, which
is like the biggest aquarium in the world,

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and they have this giant tank and
there's a shark in there, and

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I go, how come the shark
isn't just eating all the fish? Yeah,

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because you figure that's all sharks really
want to do is eat there's fish

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all over the place, they're swimming
around. Why don't they eat other things?

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And they said that, first of
all, they keep them well fed,

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so they don't want to eat off
cycle and they basically said, sharks

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are incredibly lazy and they don't want
to chase anything, so they only want

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like wounded things and dead things and
and all that kind of stuff. I

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was like, oh, fun fact, Yeah that makes sense. I was

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curious, all right, this was
fun plug. And first of all,

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what happened to that guy in the
second? Is the second date after the

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after the zoo? Yeah, we
spent like topic No, we actually spent

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like the whole weekend together. But
this was like two years ago. We're

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just like really good friends. Now
he doesn't want to hear that. That's

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so sad, like getting friend zone. Yeah, he got friends, so

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he took you to the zoo.
I feel like I'm the weekend and now

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he's at friend zoning. Yeah,
like pardon me, I can't commit like

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I want to. And then I'm
afraid too because of like I just feel

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like I have so much other things
I need to focus on. But then

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I do want to, like thanks
for the kids, I got to focus

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next, and then uh no,
not going to be the father of my

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babies? Like what is that conversation? No, Like, how do you

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friend zone them? You know?
Like I was totally into it, Like

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while we spent time together and then
like you know, bunts went on and

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we just didn't talk and we didn't
talk for a year. And now I'm

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like not interested in that way,
but I can take you to the zoo.

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Let's go back to the zoo.
Yeah, but you know, things

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change. Oh, I'm interested in
other people now because now you want to

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have babies. Yeah, Okay,
that's a different point too. You date,

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You can't waste five years when that's
your focus. Yeah, I mean,

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yeah, I don't. I not
always say that I wanted to have

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kids when I was like really young, and I did, like I TMI,

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but I did get pregnant when I
was twenty three with my ex.

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So I feel like that affected me
for like two years and I'm past that

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now. But like all my friends
have kids, all of them are engaged

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in all them, you know,
just have their life. Well you're to

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wait five years till they're all getting
divorced and they all hate the kids,

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right. I get it. If
you dodged a bullet, it's not perfect,

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and I don't stress about it anymore. I used to stress about it.

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But I also am not just going
to entertain you if you're just going

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to waste my time if we're not
on the same wavelength. Can you be

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asked out by somebody in target?
I can somebody just go up to you

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and be like, hey, I
saw you in the band aids section.

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You want to go out? Have
to do a whole process. I mean,

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I don't know, you're really sweet. I'm like, it's not you,

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it's me. I'm focused on myself
right now, right, But if

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you're focus on yourself, then five
years go by, I know, no,

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and it's not easy to date a
girl who's focused on herself. And

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same thing with men. Men always
use that line. I feel like,

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not necessarily with me based on my
career. They do all that well because

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you just don't want anyone to take
away from like what you're doing, what

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you want to like achieve in life, you know, because I feel like

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when I was in my relationship,
it was like that he was never supportive.

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He was always just kind of making
like rude comments. So if you're

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going to have someone that's not a
support system, then what's the point.

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Totally agree, you should be able
to do both. You should be able

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to build your empires with the support
of each other. Right, you should

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be able to do that. If
you're going to entertain anybody, whether you're

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like friends with benefits like having sex
with them, I think it needs to

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be someone that it's a lease up
to your standards, where like you could

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potentially have a future with because if
you guys aren't on the same wavelength,

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you're like, you're a big YouTuber
and she's not doing anything, Like how

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do you guys even relate? And
you don't want anybody to hold you back.

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No, somebody's going to hold you
back there. They're not going to

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need somebody to boost you up and
encourage you one hundred percent. We have

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to be in the same that's hard
to find career because people are going to

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be like, well if she gets
you know, I've known a lot of

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girls who dated guys in bands,
and they always admit to me they're secretly

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rooting for them to fail because they
know if they become big stars, they're

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probably gone. That's you can't have
that in a relationship. That is like

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terrible, I think, I know, but it's true. They're like,

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they get their record deal, they're
going to go on tour, and they're

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going to leave me. Wow,
Yeah, that's crazy. But so they

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admit it. They're like, yeah, I kind of want them to be

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just enough to pay the bills,
but not enough to be a star.

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Crazy. Just so many people are
like envious and it's wild they are.

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You can't be envious of your spouse, No, you really can't. And

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if she's somebody or he's somebody who
gets the spotlight or wants the spotlight or

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it's part of who they are,
you have to jine that spotlight. That's

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part of the deal, right.
I did one guy that was super supportive

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about that, like never questioned me. And then and he was younger than

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what I like my accent, and
I was just like, wow, it's

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so wild how some people are just
so different. Like some people are really

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secure, Like it all comes down
to, like insecurity, it's tough to

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get guys in their twenties, thirties, I guess any age to settle down,

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any age I get it to get
off the ride. It's hard up

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until forties. And it's just yeah, stupid bastards, all right, tell

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everybody where they can find you,
stock you and send you hateful messages.

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Marjorie Garacho m A r j ri
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Marjorie. You can spelled the garacha. That's the hard part really, because

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as soon as you type in Marjori, it's the only Marjorie that pops up.

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That's true. Yeah, it's just
Marjorie. I suppose she'll come up

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Google Marjorie Temptation Island. I'm sure
you've followed. Thank you. This was

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fun as far as far as us
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anniversary Live Great Love Debate show,
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our biggest shows ever. Like I
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live shows anymore, but if I
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Blackbox dot com or Greatlovedebate dot com. Shoot us an email Great Love Debate

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