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Survival Network. I'm your owns Carrie Lutz. Well, we had this person
on about a year ago. You end up having the number one bestseller on
Amazon in environmental policy. I'd like to think we help play a role in
it. He's got a new book out. The book is a very convenient
warming. How modest warming and more CO two are benefiting humanity? I know,
say it ain't so please. Al Gore is rolling in his live grave
right now. Last book was in Inconvenient Facts, the science that Al Gore
doesn't want you to know. And his name is Gregory Wrightstone. Gregory,
it's great to have you back on the show, and so CO two is
good for us. We glance would all die without it. And hey,
if it's a few degrees warmer in the North Dakota during the winter, who
cares, right exactly? Thanks for having me back on the last time I
was on your show, Carrie, we talked about how there is no climate
crisis, and we you know, I showed I provided the science of facts
in the data, the disputed that, and we've taken it a step farther,
both me personally, my new book and the CO two coalition, and
we find that by almost every metric we look at, Earth's ecosystems are thriving
and prospering, and humanity is benefiting from modest warming and more. CO two.
I call it the greatest untold story of the twenty first century, that
of a thriving Earth and an improvement of the human condition because of warming and
more. CO two is completely opposite of what you and your viewers are being
told. And you're going to. This will be the last time you hear
me say it's completely opposite of what you're being told. Well, correct me
if I'm wrong. But aren't we having a CO two shortage is causing soft
drinks and beverages shortages in them as well? You know, we got a
shortage of CO two and yet they're telling us we have too much of it.
I mean, I guess we need to take more of it out of
the air so we can carbonate our beverages. Right, No, no,
no, no, no, no, no no, we actually have a
CO two shortage in the atmosphere as well. Weren't near historically low levels of
carbon dioxide? You're being told that all video two is at record levels.
It's never been this high and we have to reduce it. Well, just
the opposite is true. Again, we have nearly historically low levels of carbon
dioxide the average. Now bear in mind we're a little over four hundred parts
per million of carbon dioxide right now four twenty and over Earth's history, though,
ceof two levels have been over twenty six hundred parts per million, six
and a half times what they are today. So the plants that we rely
on are crop They all evolved at a much higher CO two level than what
we are today, and they thrive on this. So our plants, our
vegetation, our crops are all at suboptimal levels of CO two. You probably
remember back to it's probably fourth grade, eight or fifth grade, you were
learning about photosynthesis, and your your teacher might have had you had a little
styrofoam cup and you put a beat is some soil and a bean in there
and you watch the bean sprout. You learned about photosynthesis, and you learned
at that time that budhasynthesis and plants require three things, mainly water, sun
light, and CO two, and the more CO two the better, right,
So what we're doing by increasing the CO two is driving what's called the
CO two fertilization effect, and the biggest we can go through that a lot
of the climate crises they're telling you about these natural disasters that are meaning about
global warming, it turns up we see that these things like fires, floods,
droughts, many of these are in decline, not increasing, and we
see that the huge benefits that were crewing is mainly in vegetation. And of
course vegetation would include agricultltural productivity, but we see that according to NASA.
This isn't Gregory Whitstone saying this, This is NASA, know a government you
in that we see a greening what they call greening of the earth, and
greening would being vegetation's increasing, and we see from the near polar regions to
the equator there's an explosion of plant growth and vegetation. And we see the
same thing, thankfully, with our agricultural productivity. In my new book,
I show a chart. I take the eight top crop in the world in
terms of tonnage produced, and we look at those over the last forty years
and find that these crops are breaking records in productivity and output year after year
after year after year, and that crop productivity increase or do mainly to three
things. Number one's probably increasing CO two. Another one is this warming temperature.
We know that we're in a warming trend, but that warming trend started
more than three hundred years ago. And the warming trend, what does that
mean for crops? That means the growing seasons are lengthening. In the pontinellity
United States, we have increased the growing season by over two weeks since nineteen
hundred. That's a good thing. That's a really really good thing. And
so what this warming means that filling frosts stop earlier in the spring and arrive
later in the fall. You can get more plantings in. And if you
have an apple orchard, what do you fear the worst for the most if
you'll fear a late spring killing frost. Same with fruit, all fruit,
the citrus fruit, fruit of thirty six degree weather in Florida. But is
the world really getting warmer here or are we just imagining this all? No,
it is warming. It's been warming and fits and starts. We haven't
had much warming at all really since twenty sixteen. We had a spike in
nineteen ninety eight during an al Nino event, and then it was flat from
nineteen ninety eight to about twenty sixteen. We went through about eighteen years where
temperature really it declined a little bit over that time. And in twenty sixteen
there was another around big Alninio event that drove a spike in temperatures. But
if we look at it over the last several you put this into the long
term perspective of several hundred years, and yes, we are warmer today than
we were three hundred years ago, and that's a good thing. Just for
example, it was great. It's three hundred years ago. We had no
industry. Even one hundred and fifty years ago, we weren't burning fossil fuels
the way we are today. Right, Yeah, and that's a that's a
good thing we are again because we're providing prosperity for people around the world.
And the side benefit is an increase in carbon dioxide. It's fueling plant growth.
I'll just give you an example why we know it was cold. I'm
following you talking to you from Arlington, Virginia right now. Eighteen miles to
my south is Mount Vernet. George Washington's he lived there with Martha, and
Martha loved ice centered summertime drinks, and so every every winter he'd have his
slaves and dentured servants down to the Potomac River and they cut the thick ice
into slabs and bring it up to his ice house. Well, you can't
do that today. The Potomac rarely freezes over much less have thick ice to
cut into slabs. So we know, just historical documentation like that, that
was there was much much colder at that time. Hey, well, it's
a shame that the hell of DC isn't freezing over anymore, because we'd all
benefit from that, for sure. So but the world the follow the science.
The science says it's getting warmer and we're causing it, and this is
bad. So you're saying, don't follow the science or follow the same science.
Right. What we find is you're what they're calling the science isn't quite
so, and that is it warming? Yes? Are we adding CO two
the atmosphere? Yes? Does CO two have a warming effect on the atmosphere?
Yes, it's just not very much, and it's overwhelmed by the natural
forces that have been driving temperature since the dawn of time. So now we're
the CO two coalition that I lead is in scientific organizations. We've got now
some one hundred and sixty some of the top scientists in the world. We
just added doctor John Klauser to our board of directors. He's the twenty twenty
two Nobel Laureate in physics. It's hard to call him a science denier,
and so they try. And actually he's proud of it. He says,
call me a denier, I don't care. But he provides the facts,
the science and the data. No matter where it leads, and where it
leads is no climate crisis. All right, Well, I guess I guess
you're going to make a believer out of me yet. Uh. I drive
a Tesla, but not because I'm saving the planet. I drive a Tesla
because I like driving a Tesla. Yeah. They sure are fun, aren't
they? They can get send here, Gregory. Does that make me a
bad person because I'm not trying it at all by driving a Tesla. I
just like driving it. Yeah. No, They're they're fun. They're they're
fun to drive. But if the reason you're buying it, many of these
people, I think the Tesla market should be about saturated now because individuals that
have enough money to buy a Tesla, and many of those are doing it
for the wrong reason. They think they're saving the planet. You apparently are
not one of those, Dan, so God bless you. Uh. But
what we're seeing here, this drive for ebs has been incredibly destructive to the
automobile industry. I got quite destructive yet, But if you lost four points
for lost four point seven billion dollars last year in their electrical vehicle business,
that work got to sixty five thousand dollars lost for every car they saw,
and that's an addition to seventy five hundred bucks tax subsidy. My father always
said, anytime you get into a new business, you're going to pay for
lessons, and that's what Ford and the rest of the legacy automakers are doing.
So Trump has said if he gets into office, he's going to put
one hundred percent Terarify on all Chinese vehicles coming into the United States. This
has the Chinese freaking out look. I think eventually evs will win out because
they're better in many respects. They're better from the standpoint of less moving parts,
more efficiency. Although the electrical grid is really inefficient, something that no
environmentalists will ever talk about, so called environment metalists, because it undermines their
view. But you know, out of every kiloot that goes through the wires,
anywhere from five to fifteen percent of it is lost in what's called transmission
loss. So but eventually the evs will went out because they're better, less
serviced, more efficient. From the standpoint of the if you can generate the
power cheaply and efficiently, then the car runs cheaper and more efficient and software.
It's really not so much the car but the software, and with electric
you get way more control over a vehicle using software than you do with an
internal combustion engine. But that has nothing to do with the purported environmental benefits
of an EV right, well, those purported. I'm going to disagree strongly
with you. I don't think the evs are going to make it because we
like the ease of firing up, pulling into a game station, taking three
minutes to fill your car, not forty five minutes. Plus the evs are
are much much heavier. There's much more wear and tear the tires because even
weight about thirty percent higher than because of the lithium ion batteries are so much
heavier, and they have a tendency not often, but you know, it's
harder to sput these things have a Lithium is an unstable metal that is flammable,
and we've seen those fires of these EV vehicles and it's it's not they're
hard to put out, yeah, I think, And then you look at
the look at the environmental degradation from cobalt, liftium. Mind all the rare
earth minerals they have to remind them, most of them outside of the United
States, with very little environmental oversighter, and it's just you know, they're
using slave labor in China and they're using child labor and the congo to mind
cobalt, it's there's a lot, a lot, not just it's not you
just don't plug the electric your core cord end that the electric's got to come
from somewhere right now. That's coal. And I don't have those kids to
work here, go on, Gregor, you've got to put to work.
An idle mind is a devil's playground. You know that. No, But
going back to what you're saying, Tesla has broken the code, all right.
Yes, they're more expensive to fix if you damage them, no question
about it. But that's for right now where there's just not adequate scale for
companies to produce the parts on the gray market. Whether Tesla's letting them or
not, I don't know. In terms of in terms of cobalt and the
minerals and all that, we're about to have a quantum leap in battery technology
that we have not seen anything like since Edison in to the alkaline battery.
So that's going to make a big difference. You will be getting five hundred
to one thousand miles off of charge. Wireless charging is going to become prevalent.
In fact, the new Tesla cyber truck has got the jacks there once
it's developed, and you know, it's just we're going to go to sodium
batteries. There's going to be so many battery types. You know, the
main battery innovations I saw in my life where burst well alkaline batteries weren't really
consumer items till later. Then nickel metal hydride they used to basically power notebooks
and electronics, and then lithium ion. We're going way, way beyond that.
And the other thing is they're not practical for people who live in apartments
and urban areas. But if you live in a house, you charge the
car there. I don't remember the last time I've been to a station other
than to buy a soda or you know, a charging station. I went
once in the past three months to a public charging station because I forgot to
charge my car at home and it took a w opping fifteen minutes to get
enough chuck. You have you taken any lengthy trips in your electric vehicle?
You know, I just don't normally take there. You go a rare,
unusual you're unusual. Then many people like to take a longer trip occasionally in
their vehicle, and that becomes a nightmare from just about the charging stations are
just not there, not less, not for Tesla's Tesla that has the infrastructure.
You know, now you don't live in Wyoming, North Dakota or something.
That's true. That's true. I mean that that's but they're just ain't.
It's just they're putting them at a rapid rate. I've even seen that
where at the gym I'm at they use Charge America or somebody else, but
they make them. They buy the units from the one company other than Tesla
that are reliable, and I never see one of them break. But look,
I'm not advocating these. I'm just saying it's my belief that the market
is going to deliver these because people are going to want them because they they're
better. I mean, but you're talking about. What you're talking about is
wishful thinking that something there might there may be a breakthrough and maybe they're well,
maybe they're ankers are there. They're not commercially viable yet, But that's
just that's just scalability. But I will tell you this, like FSD and
my Tesla. But you really can't have in an ice car a lot of
reasons because you don't have the instant response to the computer, and an ice
car, you know, is downright amazing. You know, there is no
other car in the market. But hey, I'm not here to putsh Tesla.
It's been my personal experience. I think they've reached critical mass, probably
not going to fail. The attempts to mimic them and imitate them have failed,
And the fact is their sales are still going up. Well, the
legacy makers ev sales are at best static, maybe going up a little bit.
But look, like I said, we agree on climate here. I
just like the car better than any other car I've ever had before, and
I've had sixty ice cars in the past forty five years. But you know,
let's get back to the important thing here is Tesla's not going to save
the climate. BYD is not going to save the world, and according to
your science, Gregory, the world doesn't need to be saved by them anyway.
Yeah, that's correct. We've got what we're doing is actually adding a
beneficial molecule to the atmosphere by using fossil fuels and for you to drive that
tesla. What you require is electricity, and the best source of electricity.
I use three words to describe what that should be. It should be abundant,
affordable, and reliable. I'd like coal. To me, sounds like
coal natural gas, nuclear not gas, and nuclear is by far the best.
It's in the United States. It's significantly more expensive, but that's the
main reason. It's regulatory regulatory issues along that. Wow, and even if
we just today said okay, let's go all nuclear, you're looking at what
decades, forty years? Maybe if we've built an up that I don't even
think about it. It's an impossibility. A good friend of mine has been
working on that modular nuclear reactor. It sounds like you just put the thing
together, you plug it in, and you get cheap, abundant electricity.
Nothing could be further from the truth. You still got to go through the
regulatory hurdles. It's still a total out and out mess. Hey. And
if we talk about fusion, I've got a number of nuclear physicists srow on
the CO two coalition. They, according to them in the in the physics
community that the standing joke has been that fusion is always forty years in the
future. Yeah, dating back to the sixties. Oh, what'd be great.
Yeah, but we'll get there. But the point, the point they
try to make is there's nothing on the horizon that makes this feasible. No,
no, no, fusion is a great concept, and maybe we will
get there. But uh, you know, we've both been hearing about the
benefits of fusion. Fishing is the way to go? Was it that guy
from the Bowery Boy he said nuclear fishing? He said, I've been fishing
a lot, but I never went fishing for nuclear so in any event,
but no, I totally agree with you. The benefits here to uh to
uh energy and the world by these evs is illusory at best and fraudulent.
Perhaps perhaps really it's fraudulent when you get down to it, right, Yes,
yes, you're being lied to on a daily basis about who would do
that? Imagine that lie to who would lie to us like that Gregory?
But then to us, well, there's a Hey, appreciate you coming on.
Tell us your website please CO two Coalition dot org. CO two Coalition
dot org. And we also have an education initiative for students at CO two
Learningcenter dot com. CO two Learning Center dot com. We're catering to the
homeschool movement. We'll provide books, comic books, videos, and importantly,
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