1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Earth's ecosystems are thriving and prospering, and humanity is benefiting from modest warming and 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,359 more CO two. I call it the greatest untold story of the twenty first 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,960 century, that of a thriving Earth and an improvement of the human condition because 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,879 of warming and more. CO two is completely opposite of what you and your 5 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:25,239 viewers are being told. You're listening to Carrie Lutz's Financial Survival Network, where 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,760 you get valuable information you just can't find anywhere else to thrive in today's trying 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,359 times. You need the Financial Survival Network now more than ever. Go to 8 00:00:36,439 --> 00:00:43,200 Financial Survivalnetwork dot com and get your free newsletter and gift. Financial Survival Network 9 00:00:43,679 --> 00:00:51,880 now more than ever. And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial 10 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,000 Survival Network. I'm your owns Carrie Lutz. Well, we had this person 11 00:00:56,079 --> 00:01:00,320 on about a year ago. You end up having the number one bestseller on 12 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:06,560 Amazon in environmental policy. I'd like to think we help play a role in 13 00:01:06,599 --> 00:01:11,120 it. He's got a new book out. The book is a very convenient 14 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,719 warming. How modest warming and more CO two are benefiting humanity? I know, 15 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:21,799 say it ain't so please. Al Gore is rolling in his live grave 16 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,239 right now. Last book was in Inconvenient Facts, the science that Al Gore 17 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:32,719 doesn't want you to know. And his name is Gregory Wrightstone. Gregory, 18 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:37,680 it's great to have you back on the show, and so CO two is 19 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:42,719 good for us. We glance would all die without it. And hey, 20 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,959 if it's a few degrees warmer in the North Dakota during the winter, who 21 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,280 cares, right exactly? Thanks for having me back on the last time I 22 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,879 was on your show, Carrie, we talked about how there is no climate 23 00:01:55,959 --> 00:01:59,439 crisis, and we you know, I showed I provided the science of facts 24 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:01,680 in the data, the disputed that, and we've taken it a step farther, 25 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,359 both me personally, my new book and the CO two coalition, and 26 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,719 we find that by almost every metric we look at, Earth's ecosystems are thriving 27 00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:16,080 and prospering, and humanity is benefiting from modest warming and more. CO two. 28 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:20,879 I call it the greatest untold story of the twenty first century, that 29 00:02:21,039 --> 00:02:25,479 of a thriving Earth and an improvement of the human condition because of warming and 30 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:30,680 more. CO two is completely opposite of what you and your viewers are being 31 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:34,599 told. And you're going to. This will be the last time you hear 32 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,840 me say it's completely opposite of what you're being told. Well, correct me 33 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:44,080 if I'm wrong. But aren't we having a CO two shortage is causing soft 34 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:49,639 drinks and beverages shortages in them as well? You know, we got a 35 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:53,319 shortage of CO two and yet they're telling us we have too much of it. 36 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,840 I mean, I guess we need to take more of it out of 37 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,599 the air so we can carbonate our beverages. Right, No, no, 38 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:00,479 no, no, no, no, no no, we actually have a 39 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:06,520 CO two shortage in the atmosphere as well. Weren't near historically low levels of 40 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:13,680 carbon dioxide? You're being told that all video two is at record levels. 41 00:03:13,719 --> 00:03:16,439 It's never been this high and we have to reduce it. Well, just 42 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:23,280 the opposite is true. Again, we have nearly historically low levels of carbon 43 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:27,759 dioxide the average. Now bear in mind we're a little over four hundred parts 44 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:34,319 per million of carbon dioxide right now four twenty and over Earth's history, though, 45 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:38,039 ceof two levels have been over twenty six hundred parts per million, six 46 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,599 and a half times what they are today. So the plants that we rely 47 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:46,639 on are crop They all evolved at a much higher CO two level than what 48 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:50,560 we are today, and they thrive on this. So our plants, our 49 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:57,800 vegetation, our crops are all at suboptimal levels of CO two. You probably 50 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,719 remember back to it's probably fourth grade, eight or fifth grade, you were 51 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:05,080 learning about photosynthesis, and your your teacher might have had you had a little 52 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,599 styrofoam cup and you put a beat is some soil and a bean in there 53 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,680 and you watch the bean sprout. You learned about photosynthesis, and you learned 54 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:19,399 at that time that budhasynthesis and plants require three things, mainly water, sun 55 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:24,600 light, and CO two, and the more CO two the better, right, 56 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,519 So what we're doing by increasing the CO two is driving what's called the 57 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:34,920 CO two fertilization effect, and the biggest we can go through that a lot 58 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:40,879 of the climate crises they're telling you about these natural disasters that are meaning about 59 00:04:40,879 --> 00:04:46,759 global warming, it turns up we see that these things like fires, floods, 60 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,360 droughts, many of these are in decline, not increasing, and we 61 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:57,800 see that the huge benefits that were crewing is mainly in vegetation. And of 62 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,279 course vegetation would include agricultltural productivity, but we see that according to NASA. 63 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:09,600 This isn't Gregory Whitstone saying this, This is NASA, know a government you 64 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:15,079 in that we see a greening what they call greening of the earth, and 65 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:19,759 greening would being vegetation's increasing, and we see from the near polar regions to 66 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:25,800 the equator there's an explosion of plant growth and vegetation. And we see the 67 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,480 same thing, thankfully, with our agricultural productivity. In my new book, 68 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:34,720 I show a chart. I take the eight top crop in the world in 69 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,759 terms of tonnage produced, and we look at those over the last forty years 70 00:05:39,759 --> 00:05:46,680 and find that these crops are breaking records in productivity and output year after year 71 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,399 after year after year, and that crop productivity increase or do mainly to three 72 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:58,000 things. Number one's probably increasing CO two. Another one is this warming temperature. 73 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,879 We know that we're in a warming trend, but that warming trend started 74 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,800 more than three hundred years ago. And the warming trend, what does that 75 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:10,279 mean for crops? That means the growing seasons are lengthening. In the pontinellity 76 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:15,600 United States, we have increased the growing season by over two weeks since nineteen 77 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,279 hundred. That's a good thing. That's a really really good thing. And 78 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:25,720 so what this warming means that filling frosts stop earlier in the spring and arrive 79 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:29,040 later in the fall. You can get more plantings in. And if you 80 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:32,319 have an apple orchard, what do you fear the worst for the most if 81 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:36,480 you'll fear a late spring killing frost. Same with fruit, all fruit, 82 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:43,560 the citrus fruit, fruit of thirty six degree weather in Florida. But is 83 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,319 the world really getting warmer here or are we just imagining this all? No, 84 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:51,160 it is warming. It's been warming and fits and starts. We haven't 85 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,160 had much warming at all really since twenty sixteen. We had a spike in 86 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,079 nineteen ninety eight during an al Nino event, and then it was flat from 87 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,759 nineteen ninety eight to about twenty sixteen. We went through about eighteen years where 88 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,920 temperature really it declined a little bit over that time. And in twenty sixteen 89 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:14,040 there was another around big Alninio event that drove a spike in temperatures. But 90 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,959 if we look at it over the last several you put this into the long 91 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:24,120 term perspective of several hundred years, and yes, we are warmer today than 92 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,040 we were three hundred years ago, and that's a good thing. Just for 93 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:30,600 example, it was great. It's three hundred years ago. We had no 94 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,199 industry. Even one hundred and fifty years ago, we weren't burning fossil fuels 95 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:39,360 the way we are today. Right, Yeah, and that's a that's a 96 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:46,160 good thing we are again because we're providing prosperity for people around the world. 97 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:50,360 And the side benefit is an increase in carbon dioxide. It's fueling plant growth. 98 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,399 I'll just give you an example why we know it was cold. I'm 99 00:07:56,519 --> 00:08:00,920 following you talking to you from Arlington, Virginia right now. Eighteen miles to 100 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,720 my south is Mount Vernet. George Washington's he lived there with Martha, and 101 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:11,399 Martha loved ice centered summertime drinks, and so every every winter he'd have his 102 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:16,680 slaves and dentured servants down to the Potomac River and they cut the thick ice 103 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,279 into slabs and bring it up to his ice house. Well, you can't 104 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:26,839 do that today. The Potomac rarely freezes over much less have thick ice to 105 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:31,839 cut into slabs. So we know, just historical documentation like that, that 106 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,799 was there was much much colder at that time. Hey, well, it's 107 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,039 a shame that the hell of DC isn't freezing over anymore, because we'd all 108 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:48,200 benefit from that, for sure. So but the world the follow the science. 109 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,679 The science says it's getting warmer and we're causing it, and this is 110 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,320 bad. So you're saying, don't follow the science or follow the same science. 111 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:05,159 Right. What we find is you're what they're calling the science isn't quite 112 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:09,919 so, and that is it warming? Yes? Are we adding CO two 113 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:15,080 the atmosphere? Yes? Does CO two have a warming effect on the atmosphere? 114 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,080 Yes, it's just not very much, and it's overwhelmed by the natural 115 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,759 forces that have been driving temperature since the dawn of time. So now we're 116 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:28,879 the CO two coalition that I lead is in scientific organizations. We've got now 117 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,720 some one hundred and sixty some of the top scientists in the world. We 118 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,440 just added doctor John Klauser to our board of directors. He's the twenty twenty 119 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,559 two Nobel Laureate in physics. It's hard to call him a science denier, 120 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,759 and so they try. And actually he's proud of it. He says, 121 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:50,320 call me a denier, I don't care. But he provides the facts, 122 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,639 the science and the data. No matter where it leads, and where it 123 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,960 leads is no climate crisis. All right, Well, I guess I guess 124 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,480 you're going to make a believer out of me yet. Uh. I drive 125 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,600 a Tesla, but not because I'm saving the planet. I drive a Tesla 126 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:11,840 because I like driving a Tesla. Yeah. They sure are fun, aren't 127 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:16,360 they? They can get send here, Gregory. Does that make me a 128 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,440 bad person because I'm not trying it at all by driving a Tesla. I 129 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,440 just like driving it. Yeah. No, They're they're fun. They're they're 130 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,039 fun to drive. But if the reason you're buying it, many of these 131 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:33,279 people, I think the Tesla market should be about saturated now because individuals that 132 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,720 have enough money to buy a Tesla, and many of those are doing it 133 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:41,960 for the wrong reason. They think they're saving the planet. You apparently are 134 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,799 not one of those, Dan, so God bless you. Uh. But 135 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:50,960 what we're seeing here, this drive for ebs has been incredibly destructive to the 136 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,759 automobile industry. I got quite destructive yet, But if you lost four points 137 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:05,279 for lost four point seven billion dollars last year in their electrical vehicle business, 138 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:09,159 that work got to sixty five thousand dollars lost for every car they saw, 139 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:16,399 and that's an addition to seventy five hundred bucks tax subsidy. My father always 140 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,039 said, anytime you get into a new business, you're going to pay for 141 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:24,720 lessons, and that's what Ford and the rest of the legacy automakers are doing. 142 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,440 So Trump has said if he gets into office, he's going to put 143 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:35,080 one hundred percent Terarify on all Chinese vehicles coming into the United States. This 144 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:43,720 has the Chinese freaking out look. I think eventually evs will win out because 145 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:50,159 they're better in many respects. They're better from the standpoint of less moving parts, 146 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,879 more efficiency. Although the electrical grid is really inefficient, something that no 147 00:11:56,159 --> 00:12:01,519 environmentalists will ever talk about, so called environment metalists, because it undermines their 148 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:07,759 view. But you know, out of every kiloot that goes through the wires, 149 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,480 anywhere from five to fifteen percent of it is lost in what's called transmission 150 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:18,639 loss. So but eventually the evs will went out because they're better, less 151 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:22,519 serviced, more efficient. From the standpoint of the if you can generate the 152 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:31,080 power cheaply and efficiently, then the car runs cheaper and more efficient and software. 153 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,679 It's really not so much the car but the software, and with electric 154 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,519 you get way more control over a vehicle using software than you do with an 155 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:48,639 internal combustion engine. But that has nothing to do with the purported environmental benefits 156 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,960 of an EV right, well, those purported. I'm going to disagree strongly 157 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,480 with you. I don't think the evs are going to make it because we 158 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,559 like the ease of firing up, pulling into a game station, taking three 159 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,919 minutes to fill your car, not forty five minutes. Plus the evs are 160 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,799 are much much heavier. There's much more wear and tear the tires because even 161 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,679 weight about thirty percent higher than because of the lithium ion batteries are so much 162 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,960 heavier, and they have a tendency not often, but you know, it's 163 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:26,960 harder to sput these things have a Lithium is an unstable metal that is flammable, 164 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:33,720 and we've seen those fires of these EV vehicles and it's it's not they're 165 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,480 hard to put out, yeah, I think, And then you look at 166 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:43,679 the look at the environmental degradation from cobalt, liftium. Mind all the rare 167 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,159 earth minerals they have to remind them, most of them outside of the United 168 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,639 States, with very little environmental oversighter, and it's just you know, they're 169 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,679 using slave labor in China and they're using child labor and the congo to mind 170 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,360 cobalt, it's there's a lot, a lot, not just it's not you 171 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:07,320 just don't plug the electric your core cord end that the electric's got to come 172 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,000 from somewhere right now. That's coal. And I don't have those kids to 173 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,960 work here, go on, Gregor, you've got to put to work. 174 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,919 An idle mind is a devil's playground. You know that. No, But 175 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:24,279 going back to what you're saying, Tesla has broken the code, all right. 176 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:28,240 Yes, they're more expensive to fix if you damage them, no question 177 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:33,240 about it. But that's for right now where there's just not adequate scale for 178 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:39,559 companies to produce the parts on the gray market. Whether Tesla's letting them or 179 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:50,919 not, I don't know. In terms of in terms of cobalt and the 180 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,440 minerals and all that, we're about to have a quantum leap in battery technology 181 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:01,679 that we have not seen anything like since Edison in to the alkaline battery. 182 00:15:03,399 --> 00:15:07,360 So that's going to make a big difference. You will be getting five hundred 183 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,639 to one thousand miles off of charge. Wireless charging is going to become prevalent. 184 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,600 In fact, the new Tesla cyber truck has got the jacks there once 185 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:22,879 it's developed, and you know, it's just we're going to go to sodium 186 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:26,480 batteries. There's going to be so many battery types. You know, the 187 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:33,679 main battery innovations I saw in my life where burst well alkaline batteries weren't really 188 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:41,840 consumer items till later. Then nickel metal hydride they used to basically power notebooks 189 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:48,080 and electronics, and then lithium ion. We're going way, way beyond that. 190 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,879 And the other thing is they're not practical for people who live in apartments 191 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,039 and urban areas. But if you live in a house, you charge the 192 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,840 car there. I don't remember the last time I've been to a station other 193 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:04,559 than to buy a soda or you know, a charging station. I went 194 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:08,879 once in the past three months to a public charging station because I forgot to 195 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,559 charge my car at home and it took a w opping fifteen minutes to get 196 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:18,879 enough chuck. You have you taken any lengthy trips in your electric vehicle? 197 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:22,879 You know, I just don't normally take there. You go a rare, 198 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,440 unusual you're unusual. Then many people like to take a longer trip occasionally in 199 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:33,799 their vehicle, and that becomes a nightmare from just about the charging stations are 200 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,879 just not there, not less, not for Tesla's Tesla that has the infrastructure. 201 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,320 You know, now you don't live in Wyoming, North Dakota or something. 202 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,679 That's true. That's true. I mean that that's but they're just ain't. 203 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:53,879 It's just they're putting them at a rapid rate. I've even seen that 204 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,120 where at the gym I'm at they use Charge America or somebody else, but 205 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:03,279 they make them. They buy the units from the one company other than Tesla 206 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:06,680 that are reliable, and I never see one of them break. But look, 207 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,799 I'm not advocating these. I'm just saying it's my belief that the market 208 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:17,680 is going to deliver these because people are going to want them because they they're 209 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:21,960 better. I mean, but you're talking about. What you're talking about is 210 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,880 wishful thinking that something there might there may be a breakthrough and maybe they're well, 211 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,799 maybe they're ankers are there. They're not commercially viable yet, But that's 212 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,240 just that's just scalability. But I will tell you this, like FSD and 213 00:17:37,319 --> 00:17:41,079 my Tesla. But you really can't have in an ice car a lot of 214 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:48,039 reasons because you don't have the instant response to the computer, and an ice 215 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,119 car, you know, is downright amazing. You know, there is no 216 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,279 other car in the market. But hey, I'm not here to putsh Tesla. 217 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,640 It's been my personal experience. I think they've reached critical mass, probably 218 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,960 not going to fail. The attempts to mimic them and imitate them have failed, 219 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:08,240 And the fact is their sales are still going up. Well, the 220 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:14,920 legacy makers ev sales are at best static, maybe going up a little bit. 221 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,319 But look, like I said, we agree on climate here. I 222 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,079 just like the car better than any other car I've ever had before, and 223 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:27,359 I've had sixty ice cars in the past forty five years. But you know, 224 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,319 let's get back to the important thing here is Tesla's not going to save 225 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:37,799 the climate. BYD is not going to save the world, and according to 226 00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:41,480 your science, Gregory, the world doesn't need to be saved by them anyway. 227 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:48,200 Yeah, that's correct. We've got what we're doing is actually adding a 228 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,839 beneficial molecule to the atmosphere by using fossil fuels and for you to drive that 229 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,319 tesla. What you require is electricity, and the best source of electricity. 230 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,599 I use three words to describe what that should be. It should be abundant, 231 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,799 affordable, and reliable. I'd like coal. To me, sounds like 232 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,759 coal natural gas, nuclear not gas, and nuclear is by far the best. 233 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:18,160 It's in the United States. It's significantly more expensive, but that's the 234 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:23,200 main reason. It's regulatory regulatory issues along that. Wow, and even if 235 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:30,079 we just today said okay, let's go all nuclear, you're looking at what 236 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,839 decades, forty years? Maybe if we've built an up that I don't even 237 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:37,200 think about it. It's an impossibility. A good friend of mine has been 238 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,799 working on that modular nuclear reactor. It sounds like you just put the thing 239 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,640 together, you plug it in, and you get cheap, abundant electricity. 240 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:51,039 Nothing could be further from the truth. You still got to go through the 241 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:55,519 regulatory hurdles. It's still a total out and out mess. Hey. And 242 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,599 if we talk about fusion, I've got a number of nuclear physicists srow on 243 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,319 the CO two coalition. They, according to them in the in the physics 244 00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:08,039 community that the standing joke has been that fusion is always forty years in the 245 00:20:08,079 --> 00:20:11,839 future. Yeah, dating back to the sixties. Oh, what'd be great. 246 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:17,480 Yeah, but we'll get there. But the point, the point they 247 00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:23,119 try to make is there's nothing on the horizon that makes this feasible. No, 248 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,599 no, no, fusion is a great concept, and maybe we will 249 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,599 get there. But uh, you know, we've both been hearing about the 250 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:36,720 benefits of fusion. Fishing is the way to go? Was it that guy 251 00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:41,319 from the Bowery Boy he said nuclear fishing? He said, I've been fishing 252 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,039 a lot, but I never went fishing for nuclear so in any event, 253 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:51,640 but no, I totally agree with you. The benefits here to uh to 254 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:59,839 uh energy and the world by these evs is illusory at best and fraudulent. 255 00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:04,359 Perhaps perhaps really it's fraudulent when you get down to it, right, Yes, 256 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,599 yes, you're being lied to on a daily basis about who would do 257 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:14,640 that? Imagine that lie to who would lie to us like that Gregory? 258 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:22,680 But then to us, well, there's a Hey, appreciate you coming on. 259 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,960 Tell us your website please CO two Coalition dot org. CO two Coalition 260 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:36,559 dot org. And we also have an education initiative for students at CO two 261 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,039 Learningcenter dot com. CO two Learning Center dot com. We're catering to the 262 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:48,599 homeschool movement. We'll provide books, comic books, videos, and importantly, 263 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,079 lesson plans tailored to each All right, excellent. Hey, we appreciate you 264 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:57,039 coming on links to yours and your website and the show notes this interview on 265 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:02,119 Financial Survival Network dot com. Please go there, click through. While you're 266 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,720 there, sign up for our free newsletter. Got one coming out shortly, 267 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,720 and Gregory, keep up the great work. The books are great. I 268 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:12,880 read the last one and I'm looking forward to reading this one. We'll talk 269 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,920 to you again real soon. 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