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today we're talking about a hoya that we were lucky enough to be sent cuttings
of by a listener last year. That's right, when we were discussing hoya
clots to fila back in episode one fourteen. You asked if I would give
you a cutting of my treasured, precious plant, and I smartly reply that
maybe I would trade you for another one of my wishless toya's, like Paulynura,
because that was a plant that I had my eye out for, but
it was always quite expensive even to just order a single note cutting at the
time, yeah, and we got multiple incredibly kind offers for poly neuras starts.
Yeah, thank you, Yeah, thanks again to everyone who reached out.
We were floored and that does remind me that maybe we should try something
like that again. Matthew, I will only finish this episode if you trade
me a mature Nepenthes edwards on a red form or an aunt fern. Okay,
Matthew, now we wait. That just seems irresponsible and greedy of us,
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why is it interesting? So? This hoya is known for beautiful leaves and
some fun common names. It's also a pretty easy grower and one of the
best quote foliage hoyas. For those of us who don't care as much about
wax plant flowers and the stress sometimes associated with that. It's also a former
it plant or was it or is it still We'll try to get to the
bottom of that today. Oh, I think it definitely still is, and
a search on Etsy or eBay for these will probably conform that to most people.
But Hoya pollnura, or the fish tail hoya or the mermaid taillhoya is
a really beautiful and popular species of wax plant from barely high elevations of Southeast
Asia from the Himalayas to northwest Unon, and the appeal of this plant comes
from the glossy green, oval shaped leaves with long tapering tips paired along pendant
stems, which is enhanced by delicate fine venation that really makes these look quite
a lot like fish or mermaid tails, naturally inspiring their common name. Yeah,
so I'll admit that I didn't see that at first. I heard the
name and then was looking at single leaves, and I thought the name was
kind of random, since there are other hoyas with vaning like this. Yeah,
okay, But for anyone else who doesn't really see that, I think
it's the two leaves together that make the fish tail effect. Oh for sure.
Yeah, yeah, maybe I'm the only one who was lost. Certainly
possible, but just in case you needed to know, Yeah, I think
it was pretty clear. And I feel like the venation on this is particularly
interesting and unique for this plant, and I first saw photos of it on
Instagram and Pinterest and I found it very appealing. But I was then actually
really surprised the first time that I saw a photo that showed someone holding a
potted plant. This might be the thing that was lost on me. But
with that reference for scale, it turned out to be a much larger plant
overall than I had imagined initially. The individual leaves on mine are almost four
inches long, and the span between the tips of each tail is about seven
inches, so it's kind of a hefty plant. Okay, that's interesting.
I think I imagine these as being larger, even like I was somehow thinking
a more obivada kind of scale or something. Oh okay, Yeah, it's
proved to be a pretty fast growing and easygoing plant in my care, and
so far I'm quite impressed. So I guess let's start with what are the
ideal recommended growing conditions that were likely to come across researching these plants online,
right, what are the recommended growing conditions? Indeed, going into this,
I assume Matthew and I were growing this one the same way, but we
actually weren't. And then our research didn't help settle that question super well either.
Yeah, and while we weren't doing anything wildly different, Yeah, our
approaches were different enough that for some plants it would have certainly led to issues
for one or both of us. But we were at least both within the
boundaries that are pretty widely prescribed by the fairly differing online care recommendations that we
saw. So, Stephen, just because this is usually the biggest concern right
away, what's stuck with you when it came to their preferred light levels?
So I found people saying bright indirect but you said you found something different,
right, I was surprised. Well, I mean, I did see that
same recommendation that you did, and specifically on one end people were saying like
west windows or slightly sheltered south ones. But what I feel like I some
more often was that pollinia does not want strong light and it burns easily with
hot direct sun. So east or even north windows were recommended in more of
the sources that I read, and obviously not all windows of similar orientation are
equal for people all over the world, but seeing how different resources recommended literally
all of the windows, I kind of took that to me that this hoya
is fairly flexible and it probably tolerates low light well while preferring to not have
that full direct sun occur, especially in the hottest seasons or parts of the
day. Okay, I guess that's reasonable. I wonder things like, you
know, maybe newer plant parents are putting this under super high light, you
know, without acclamation, or maybe there's things like that going on. But
that's interesting to hear. So I saw the typical range of Hoya soils for
this one too that we've covered on the show before. You can check out
a Hoya Soil episode if you want to deeper dive there. Yeah. In
fact, I actually potted mind an exact mix that I mentioned in episode one
twenty eighth that you're referencing. But these are going to be finding commercial potting
soils too. Yeah. Doug Chamberlain of Vermont Hoya's was growing a huge one
in what I understood to be soil from the nursery pot so to me,
that means this one isn't likely super picky. Yeah, Basically, it's recommended
to at least use a well draining mix like you just for just about any
foliage plant. Yeah, but it's commonly mentioned that you can improve the drainage
of a commercial potting soil with per light, so standard sort of foliage plant
care recommendations exactly. And I heard that you should let this one try out,
like a hoya obivoda for example. But you kind of read different things
there too, right, Matthew. Yeah, And that's the biggest difference in
what we took away from the general online care guides that we read. I
consistently read that these are less tolerant of hard drawing for long periods and other
hoyas because of their thinner, more tender foliage compared to the thicker, hard
leathery or waxy leaves of you know, like you said, obovada or pocaclota,
even hoya carnosa. But they still want to drive partially at least between
waterings. And it was regularly noted that they're sensitive to overwatering. So you
know, again standard hoya care, standard foliage plant care. I would imagine
that the amount of drawing that you provide, and the happiness of your plant
is probably most tied to your substrate choice, pop material and growing conditions.
Again, like we discussed an episode one twenty eight where we were talking about
the whole soil equation idea where you want to consider specific factors unique to your
plant, your growing conditions, and your care routine when making choices about the
pop material and the substrate that you choose. But I think altogether this seems
like a pretty flexible plant when it comes to watering. I feel like the
consensus idea is that they don't like to stay wet and saturated, but also
shouldn't be fully dry for long periods in any events. Okay, So Stephen,
what has your approach been for this plant and how successful do you feel
like it's been? Okay, So I would say I received this cutting from
that very cool listener and front of the show when I was already well into
my stride. Hoyo wise, if I may be so bold, So I
gave it what is now my standard treatment, which you know, I guess
that's like I'm trying to say easy. I don't. Yeah, it went
into a little cup of water and into a prop box. So part of
the cutting was in water, and it's in that high humidity environment like in
the closed prop box. This has worked for nearly every cutting I've received at
this point, so I felt confident about that and it worked in this case
too. Yeah, and those cuttings then had tons of roots growing out of
all portions of the stem pretty much. I shared a photo of my cutting
on Instagram when you got it to me, and it's a pretty root porn
moment. Oh wait, I forgot about that actually till just now. I
think I brooded yours too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and
then you just gave me like a remember that now. Okay. So when
it had that four inches of new root growth, which is kind of the
guidance for when you can remove it from the prop box, I put the
cutting into the standard ish soil mix that we mentioned earlier, had a bit
more sphagnum moss on the top around the new roots. My thought there is
that that could ease their acclamation to the less humid home environment, like if
they had that bit of moist sphagnum there. So then I kept it at
the side of a grown light for a while, so not on the highest
light, but to make sure that the light was consistent. I didn't want
any hiccups while it adjusted to its new pot and got established, And I
kept it there until I probably had five new sets of leaves, so that
was, you know, kind of a lot of growth. I think I
was going from two to five, and they grow in pairs, which is
kind of unique. Then I moved it to a macromayhanger in my window where
it now sits. Okay, as far as watering, I had mine in
almost the same condition as my obivada and Pubiclix just for reference. Oh okay,
Yeah, like under the same lights and the same watering schedule. So
the pot largely dried out, I would say, but I'm thinking about it,
perhaps not completely, just because the plant was smaller at that point.
So maybe we're kind of agreeing and I just didn't realize right well. And
that actually makes me think that you're probably keeping your obovada more evenly water than
I am. Okay, And that makes sense with what you were saying about
how you were treating polynera similar to obavada in that regard. I let my
obovada actually dry pretty hard and stay that way for quite a while. Pretty
okay, which I've done to my Obovada too and it's been fine, So
okay, yeah, yeah, either way, Okay, growth speed for polyura
feels relatively fast for Ahoya to me. I saw Pa Duncle's form and fall
off, but I wasn't super bothered by that. Again, this isn't one
that we're growing for flowers, and I'd rather have mine fill out a bit
more actually. Anyway, overall, it's felt pretty straightforward, resilient, pretty
darny, and especially if you have some hoy experience already. Yea, So
how different was your approach and what did you find, Matthew? Again,
I thought we were doing kind of the same thing, so I'm looking forward
to some surprises here. I mean, it might be even less earth shatteringly
different than you were imagining at first. But we did both approach it a
little bit differently. I think that the way that the roots had grown out
of the whole stem presented a little challenge when I was considering how to pot
it up, and I decided to plant the cutting at a shallow angle in
that go to Hoya substrate that I talked about, so that the majority of
roots were in the mix with the first leaves buried a little bit, and
then the stem was sort of laying across the substrate because I really wanted all
those roots to establish as best as they could. And then the cutting itself
actually established pretty rapidly, and it almost immediately began resuming growth. It was
kind of under some medium intensity grow lights on my dining room table, next
to a staglant fern. There were a couple of other small hoy as,
a couple lower light succulents, and stefani a kwisaki. I just for kind
of reference, and I kept the substrate fairly moist. In the first couple
of weeks. I barely let the surface dry, hoping that this would help
it acclimate to the potting substrate, and just kind of established itself. So
and that mixes pretty fluffy airy. There's a lot of moisture retention, but
it is really well draining, so I wasn't worried about route rot, even
knowing that I was keeping it a little bit more moist than I was going
to eventually. But anyway, it actually grew pretty rapidly, just like you
noticed, and I feel like this is a pretty fast growing species among hoias.
It put out five sets of leaves pretty quickly, So now my plant
has a single foot long vine with seven sets of leaves total, and the
color is really deep green, like you noticed, peduncles form at almost every
new leaf set, but then the yellow and drop off eventually. And I
am also not bothered about it, because I'm growing it for the appearance of
the foliage and I just want to let it fill an immature just like you.
So we're actually pretty aligned there. Now. I feel like someday it
might bloom, and I'm sure that I'll be excited about that if it happens,
but I'm not really going to put in any effort to make that occur,
just beyond the effort that I was already going to put into keeping this
plant happy and well grown. Yeah, for the last couple of months,
it's actually been growing on my desk right next to my Clistophila my Etherium clarinrvum.
It's a few feet into a room right in front of a south window,
so it does get some direct sunlight, but it's fairly gentle and it
gets a ton of ambient light throughout the day, both natural as well as
supplemented. Because this is the room with the majority of my grow lights.
And then I've been playing around with the watering frequency more recently, as the
plant is now fully established and actively growing, I wanted to see how dry
it could tolerate. And the most recent two leaves grew in a little distorted
compared to the ones that grew in with more fairly even moisture, and I'm
tempted to attribute that to letting it nearly dry a few times rather than watering
it as the surface of the substrate is dried. And my goal now is
to just let it, you know, kind of dry an inch or so
into the medium, kind of like standard foliage plant care, and in water
pretty faithfully, which is actually pretty unlike how I treat most of my other
toys, because many of them are fine with fairly long periods of being pretty
dry. And then lastly, I've also been better about fertilizing my plants so
far this year compared to how I normally am. And this one has some
slow released organic fertilizer in the substrate, but I'm also using a water soluble
all purpose fertilizer about what's a month for it, because this plant seems inclined
towards rapid growth, and I really want to support that. Okay, so
what about the challenges. Honestly, there haven't been any really for me yet.
Maybe I would feel differently if flowering was a priority, like we were
saying, But this has been one of my easiest toy experiences so far.
Yeah. I haven't really had any actual problems. But I was a little
worried at first, as the leaves of the cutting when you got it to
me were kind of a bright yellow green with deep green veins. So I
wasn't sure if there was some sort of clorosis going on that would resolve once
the cutting established and took up some nutrients, or if those leaves were actually
just yellowing because they were going to drop off. However, it turned out
to be fine, and they greened up barely quickly once they were growing roots
into the substrate. Yeah. I noticed that at first too. I almost
forgot about that. Yeah, it was really insignificant. Since then, though,
I've also noticed that similarly, in new leaves, they look a little
off color sometimes, and there might be some kind of yellowish spots that look
concerning, But as the leaves mature, the color evens out and the foliage
has always looked fine for me by the time that it's hardened off, right,
So I went over to check mine for this just today to see if
it was going to be like a struggle I would want to cover in this
episode. Mine all seem fine. Now. It does take oddly long for
them to color up and fill out, like your say, so I was
worried for a bit there too. How sure are you that those new leaves
that you had form aren't just in that stage right now, because they're actually
like fully hard, they're the same leathery texture as the previous leaves, and
there is another set of two new leaves coming out, So okay, because
you know, I still feel like I had some that were kind of warped
when newer leaves were coming out, but they look fine now. So I
don't know what We'll post pictures on our show notes of our two plants grown,
you know, in largely similar conditions. Yeah, and you know,
you know, compare notes like you may be right, I don't know.
I just think that it's just like a little quirk of the plant that now
that we've kind of learned it, it's not concerning. Now some of this
might also be because the leaves sometimes have little silvery splashes on the foliage.
Yeah, and some plants have a higher density of this than mine, of
course, And I wasn't really sure what to think of the new leaves as
they were growing, and like we've said, so, I just wanted to
mention the silvery splashes the yellow leaves kind of like this kind of characteristic of
the plant, because I just want to help any hypochondriac plant parents who might
be out there looking at their their new pollenura in order to help calm your
nerves a little as you watch this new growth emerge. It's, yeah,
just what the plant does. Now. The foliage does even seem fairly variable
depending on growing conditions, because our plants are clones of the same mother plant,
and you know, we've only seen like over video camera and like send
each other photos of the plants. But it seems that mine is a much
deeper green with glossier foliage than yours, and your plant, on the other
hand, has kind of a brighter yellow green leaf with more pronounced deep green
veining. Perhaps it's just the difference in our light levels, Maybe it's the
frequency of our watering, Maybe it's the frequency of our fertilization. But yeah,
okay, I mean I think ours look the same, so yeah,
but maybe maybe you're right. We'll see when we post those photos on Instagram.
Yeah, I wasn't comparing too closely. I was just kind of like,
okay, yeah, all right. Now. As far as like pest
challenges, mine has had mealy bugs show up on it. It's a hoya,
and that's also the pest that I always have somewhere through some extent,
but it's never been a big deal. I just sprayed the plant off in
the sinc to remove them, and then I treated with an insect to settle.
So spray when I noticed one of those flare ups. Also, like
you said, they seem to form and drop ped uncles prematurely and pretty freely,
so don't get excited when you see them or stress when they fall off.
This is a much more handsome plant than Hoya bella, which is the
only other hoya that I've ever had that does this so aggressively. And I
don't take it nearly as personally when it happens on the hoya pollen era because
it's a pretty play yea, Yeah, your favorite punching bag boy Bella,
Oh, I let that one die? Good, Ryan, did you?
I did? Yeah? Bye, I'm about to repot mine. But that
was that was my og hoya. Okay, So yeah, all right?
Have we enjoyed this plant? Would we replace it if it died? I
would? But if I did, I feel like I might get a bigger
one to get more of the like full foliage hooya effects. Sooner. I
hope you're starting to like save up a budget for that. And it's also
really funny to hear you say because you wanting a full, bushy, trailing
foliage plant. But I will clarify and say that I want more fullness,
but I don't like need an all out bushiness like I've seen in some of
the big plants online, like why have foliage hiding other foliage and other questions
I ask myself about bushiness. But you know, it's more like I want
at least a few vines with nice leaves, you know, just somewhere clear
my reputation to maintain. Oh sure, I understand. And this actually is
a plant that I think looks really pretty if it's a little bit scant because
the foliage is so attractive. Yeah, exactly, like a few vines really
showcases it nicely. But I think that this is going to be an ideal
candidate for pruning. If you have a couple of long vines, to strim
this back periodically and then cut them into single nodes, and then you can
just tuck them into the substrate around the mother plant to root in as new
plants. You can also just propagate them and then put them in their own
pot on their own. Yeah. But with the ease and speed of rooting
for polyN Eira, as well as its speed of growth overall, that seems
to be a common approach for these, and it seems like one that would
really pay off quite well. So I'm just waiting for mine teet a little
bit bigger before I do this myself. I would like to see if it
starts to put out some side growth on its own at some point, since
many of my hoyas tend to put out new shoots from the base or at
nodes by the time that they've grown up a little bit, and mine's not
quite there. Yeah, I'm open to see some side growth too, like
a new vine. Yeah. Now, it is really nice when a plant
just roots easily when you stick in cutting into soil and with the fairly frequent
watering that I aim for with Polynira, I think that would be a pretty
reliable method. And like I said, I've seen a lot of people recommend
this, so yeah, now I would certainly replace mine if it died.
I might even replace my Bella just to given another chance, even though I
hate that one. That was fast. Yeah, who knows, but I
am really looking forward to growing the pown Era up further. It's really striking
and it's one of those hoyas that really stands out in my collection. I
love all of my hoyas equally, but that's not true, but I can't
say that all of them really look that different. So I particularly appreciate the
ones that are so unique and interesting on their own, even without flowers,
that they're special plants just looking at them anyway. This one has also been
really easy to grow, so it's really fulfilling. Yeah. Also, I
wanted to throw in maybe one of its best unsung traits is that it doesn't
form long bare vines. Oh yeah, without leaves that like dangle and wander
for months before filling out if they feel like it. I've not noticed any
plants and photos doing that's really good point. Yeah, at least, like
I've never seen that either. Mine hasn't done that. New growth always seems
to come with a neat matching, you know, new pair of leaves.
My Piebkalics, on the other hand, has had some of like some of
its naked vines now for years. I'm serious and yeah, and yes,
like it's growing, it's consistently flowering. Otherwise I feel like it has everything
it needs. So yeah, I hadn't really thought about that. But we've
mentioned in other episodes Hoya's growth habit is a little bit weird because they grow
those long shoots and then eventually leaves show up, whereas a lot of the
vinding plants that I grow, I expect to produce leaves as the vine emerges,
and these for me, it's like it puts out one node and two
leaves, then it puts out another node and then two more leaves. Yeah,
yeah, okay, okay. Any final thoughts for plant parents interested in
giving us a try, well, Like we said before, be thoughtful about
the care advice that you read. There's a lot of slightly differing approaches suggested
that aren't always in agreement with another so just don't be afraid to try different
things if you're not seeing the results that you want. That's right, you
could follow one of the care advices that we gave today, right exactly,
we're helping. I mean, for instance, I personally like the hoya substrate
that I have mine in because it's airy and it's well draining. It's also
moisture retaining, and the pollinia is growing in a fairly warm environment with moderate
humidity, so I keep it fairly moist most of the time and that's been
great for me. But Steven Gross is on the dryer side and his plant
is also helping happy. But I think yours has one fewer pair of leaves
than mine. But it's not a competition, right, well, I didn't
think it was. I would be winning, though. I think I gave
you the bigger one. Okay, thank you, all right. I would
also say, don't be afraid of a small cutting with this one. Yeah,
don't be afraid to order one of those online, or you know,
be less afraid than with some other hoyas. At least this one has a
reputation for shipping. Well, that was certainly our experience. Mine arrived,
you know in great condition. Yeah, and they grew fast, so I'm
always afraid to order small cuttings like this. In fact, synapsis jade satin
cutting that I ordered a real long time ago. I think it was over
a year ago. It is just now establishing in potting soil. It's growing
its fourth new leaf, but only the second decent looking one. This way
is not going to leave you waiting nearly so long for a rewardingly happy plant,
I expect. Yeah, Okay, we've said this already, you know,
directly indirectly, but I think it's good to think of this one as
a foliage hoya. The flowers are great, of course, but they're less
remarkable than many other hoyas, and they seem more difficult to get to bloom
and then even see and enjoy because they're kind of tucked, you know,
very close to the foliage. Yeah. I've seen plenty of photos of plants
that have like tons of flowers on them, but I expect that this is
probably just a species that needs to mature into a fairly large plant before it's
going to be a reliable bloomer for you. And it's also probably going to
want more lights to bloom well. Than it needs to just be a super
handsome house plant. And from what I've seen, it also looks like the
flowers are held in tight little clusters directly underneath the leaves, and with the
leaves being so large, I would expect that if you have a plant in
full bloom that you're viewing from eye level, you might not even notice that
the flowers are there. So maybe it's better and a hanging planter above a
chair that you sit in so that you can look up into the foliage to
appreciate those flowers. Yeah, so don't let this be one of those plants
that you feel like you can grow but you can't quite master since you can't
get it to flower or something. You know, I think we have plant
feelings like this. There are just better hoya choices for that kind of you
know, secret guilt. Yeah, much more rewarding flowers. But for what
it's worth, these ones are kind of a yellow green to salmon, and
they have a red center. Allegedly there's a light sweet spicy scent, So
like it's exciting if they happen. Okay, is it easier to find now?
Well? In my quick searches, small cuttings were available online for about
twenty five dollars US rooted, but larger plants were still pretty expensive. Yeah,
I'm actually surprised since this one seems to grow so quickly. Yeah.
Now the price has come down quite a bit in recent months. And I
remember seeing tiny single note cuttings like the ones you're mentioning selling for like sixty
dollars or more in years past, and wondering if that was as good a
deal as I could expect for the time being. Okay, so I guess
the question is, since twenty five dollars for a tiny plant is pretty well
into splurge territory for many of us, is it worth the splurge? I
would say yes. I would also say twenty five dollars is fairly a good
deal, so you might be paying more than that, Okay, considerably more
than that for a slightly larger plan. Okay, So all right, maybe
I saw some deals then. But like we said with Hoya Clistophila, this
one is a fast, easy grower, and I think we both agree that
it lives up to the pictures if you like what you see online. Of
course, if you've listened to the show before, you know that there aren't
many plants that deserve to be the quote it plants to us, but this
one does. Yeah, and I'm glad that you feel that way about polyN
Eira. It's not terribly common that a wishless plant of mine really exceeds my
expectations, especially if it's a fairly pricey one that I kind of hope for
more to come out of. But boy, Paul and Eira is one that
really makes that list for both of us. And I do think that it's
funny though this is still kind of a statusy it plant, because I think
it was. Doug Chamberlain mentioned that he bought a big basket of his first
toy at Paulyn Eira real cheap at a big box store, and he was
struggling with his, like he had some struggles with that plant initially, But
people bought these for like fifteen dollars and six inch baskets at home depot in
twenty ten. So crazy to think, Yeah, maybe it'll end up being
a mass produced plant again in the future. Yeah, and like any good
fat plant, I've seen the status cultivar or two. Matthew looked into those
for us. Yeah, so the standard green one is the one that we're
growing, and it's the easiest and least expensive to find. But there are
a few varieties that you're likely to see, especially if you're searching on Etsy
or eBay, and brojet is probably the one that you're going to hear about
the most. Yeah, brojet is the one that I saw most in my
searches, and it's just kind of not for me. And yes, that
is delight in my voice that you're detecting, because whenever I see a prestige,
you know, plant of any kind that I don't want part of me
rejoices that I won't be tempted by it, Like it is remarkable looking.
I will be impressed if I received in person. I'm just not tempted.
Knock on wood. Yeah, Now, I actually don't know if these are
truly like recognized registered cultivars necessarily or just trade names that are you for plants
with varying degrees of variation but with sort of blurred lines that define them.
And some of it could also just be the growing conditions that kind of allow
these visual attributes to be most pronounced. But brojet is apparently just the Danish
word for barrigating, and so these pollen Eura tend to just have really heavy
amounts of the silvery splashes that make some other hoyas also so coveted. The
foliage on these has a more textural appearance because like the mid vein portion seems
to be a lighter green, the veining seems more pronounced on these plants.
And then you'll also see some that are just called splash, which seems to
be similar to brojet, and sometimes they're called Brojet splash, except that there's
even less density to the silver splashing, while on the other extreme silver looks
like the majority of the leaf surface is uniformly covered with that splashing to kind
of give you a minty green color to the foliage. Right, I actually
really like that one. I think it's super beautiful, but it is far
far more expensive than the others that we've seen. Yeah, it's also sometimes
called Soper Brojet. But then you found a version with very good to leaf
margins, and those were the most expensive at all, selling for absolutely ridiculous
amounts of money. Yeah, and I actually kind of liked those. I'm
not a variegated fan so often, but the mix of white margins and the
veining and the texture they were kind of cool together like that. So maybe
I'll get a twenty dollars cutting when it comes down to that price, like
in twenty thirty or something. Yeah, we'll see, because I feel like
we sell one on Etsy that was selling for fifteen hundred. Yeah, it
will be a little while. Okay, historical botanical cultural information about these don't
look at me, you know what. There is not much that I have
to say here, and I think that I just really maxed out the section
last week when we were discussing Mowichia, and we've already said that Hoya pollonier
is from the Himalayas and eunon. I couldn't really find anything about when it
was scientifically described or when it entered into cultivation, but it's at least as
early as twenty ten, because that's when some people commented on buying. There's
from like the angel plants at home Depot, right when it was first discovered
at Lows or whatever, right like this plat was identified at Lows. But
one aside just about the fact that they come from higher elevations in the Himalayas,
that didn't really factor into the care that we've noticed and the care that
you know we're recommending is that they might appreciate cooler temperatures, especially at night.
But for most house points and standard home conditions, that's sort of a
moot point. And this one is growing really well for me in the same
room as the heat loving pope and clota that blooms constantly like four feet away.
Okay, yeah, And you know, depending where you live, these
things could be so different. Right here, our nights get cool, and
you know that's a blessing in many cases, it also be a reason why
you might have your plant struggling to bloom if it is constantly growing above sixty
five degrees all the time. So I think that the only cultural piece that
really resonates with me is that I'm honestly a little surprised it's far more commonly
known as the fish tale hooya than it is as the mermaid tale Hooya.
Like, I don't know, it just seems like that is a more trendy
and sexy name to me. Somehow, I tend to call mine a mermaid
talhoya. But The Little Mermaid was also my favorite movie when I was a
really little kid, So it just seems like for such a trendy, cryptid
a folklore and such a trendy plant that those names should go far more hand
in hand than what I've noticed. It just seems like better marketing. Yeah,
that is interesting. I don't know if I ever heard mermaid tale hoya
before you mentioned it today, but yeah, with fish tale, like I'm
kind of seeing like dead fish, I kind of smell them right, So
I would definitely pick mermaid till too. Yeah, I just think it's a
far more romantic and appealing name. Okay. In this week's after show for
official patrons, we'll talk about our next Hoya goals, or should we say,
any remaining Hoya goals? Is it possible that we've reached our own peak
Hoya? Head to patreon dot com slash Plant Daddy Podcast if you're interested in
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