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When your old career gives you lemons
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We call it a podcast from the
Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and

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driven by Victor Chrysler Dots. Gee
Ram, It's Billified, the Bill Moran

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Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's
how we spread the word about the pirate

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ship. The Pirate Toothless Eddia will
be airing tomorrow, and I gotta tell

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you, I was worried about this
episode that's gonna come out. Mark,

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I'm ever gonna listen to me?
What do you mean? Are you ever

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gonna listen to me? What does
that mean? These guests do you like

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to get on? Well, the
guests actually those are the ones, and

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I know it's on the numbers are
fucking enormous, Like they're so big.

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We did one today. Just I'll
just just to give you an example,

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like five thousand view. It's like
it's it's crazy. I don't know,

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I don't get it. You know, maybe got something. It's like,

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yeah, like watching carry accident,
anyone is like this is brings in his

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girlfriend and he'll see you to morrow. Are we going to be able to

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understand it. I think so.
I think he can. I'm not sure.

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We'll have to go back through and
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Saturday just out of uh curiosity,
because I was a little nervous about how

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this was going to actually go,
you know and all that stuff. But

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Laura brought her significant other, Joe
in today. Oh boy, yeah,

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well I I you're it was nice
for you to come in. I was

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brave of you to come in.
Yeah. I was asking her questions before

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I got here. So here we
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what I said? What's gonna happen? Am I going to get set up

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tonight? No, I'm just gonna
ming You're just gonna mingle and there'll be

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there, There'll be no there'll be
no no worries at all. You're you're

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doing some school now, right?
Yeah? I am all right? So

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what is being said about what happened
over the weekend? Nothing? You're kidding?

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Nothing? Really? It was not
mentioned once. Yeah, I mean,

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because I don't forget these are special
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so that's different fit. But I
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Just in an off conversation among adults, anything, nothing really right,

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Yeah, that's weird to me because
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historical perspective, I go, this
is a weird thing, Like I in

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modern times, I can't think of
other assassination attempts that have happened, right,

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I mean, he had well Reagan, Reagan, Kennedy, and then

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after that. I don't think there's
been any other assassination attempts for presidents that

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I can think of, or any
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up with in my head. And
I'm going this, I'm trying to figure

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out the historical significance of whether or
not this is a you know, like

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one of these things where you remember
where you were when you found out kind

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of thing. I already forgot.
I was at my niece's graduation party and

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he found out. Yeah. Yeah, someone from the table over came over

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and was like Trump has been shot. And I immediately was glued to my

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phone, right yeah, and I
saw it on TMZ like that was the

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first thing. Yeah, and I
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I didn't know, I wasn't sure, wasn't sure what. Yeah, I

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was saying, yeah, nothing was
really sad. No did you care.

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Yes, yeah, yes, yeah, I thought. I mean, well,

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yesterday, so like the chief of
police for Fairport, he's a trained

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sniper with the SWAT team, and
he goes, how does a twenty year

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old guy out wit with no training? This kid had no training whatsoever get

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a shot off one hundred and fifty
or something wrong with this picture? Yeah,

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it's like but like what Mark posted
on Facebook this morning, I completely

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agree with what you said. What
did you say? I'm not a Trump

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fan, yeah, and I hate
when people like for I'll give you an

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example, I said, for football, I hate that person and you sit

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next to the collapse during an injury. Oh, I'm all with you on

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that. Okay, I'm with you
on that. That's where that's that's where

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that irks me. And I don't
like Trump. I'm gonna mote for him.

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I don't like him, right,
but I can't see being happy that

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that he didn't, you know,
be in sad. Dude. I'm so

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glad he said it because I saw
somebody on some social media platform going we

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were just an inch away, and
I'm going, that's take away the political

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stuff. That's somebody's dad at somebody's
husband, right, take just the human

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side. I don't care what kind
of husband. None, none of my

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business. None of my business.
I totally made that joke to Joe,

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but like, god damn it,
where did they mess? Yes, but

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like, I'm not gonna put it
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you know, even my most of
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But I said, I was like, I don't condone violence. I'm like,

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this is horrific. Like I've been
trying to figure out because I've never

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been like a Trump either. Right, but I go, there's a couple

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of things that this guy does.
Like I always we used to laugh over

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Trump University failed, right, Trump
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guess sued and got their money back
or whatever was going on. Right,

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But he stood up and did something
other politicians never did. When the all

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the big manufacturers of cars, we're
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he said, I'm gonna put a
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is built in Mexico. If it
was an American company and you moved it

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out to save money, I'm putting
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And nobody's gonna buy your cars.
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of stood up from the political side
to any of these CEOs and think about

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these, I mean, the forgotten
American like people fucking ate that shit up.

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Whether or not he could actually do
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to fucking what do you call it? Was it China he went to China

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or for the first you know,
I mean first time, say with that

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lunatic and they said together, who
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kind of like in a way in
World peace, there was nobody was,

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nobody was I'm gonna tell you what
my life was. My life was better

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when he was president. Somebody else
I was with today who owns a business,

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uh said to me, they made
more money when he was in office,

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right, they made more money.
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I feel the Democrats and I'm independent, I'm not either, but I feel

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Democrats want us to fail. That's
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me, you know, like you
said, Trump's not a politician. He's

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a man who's a business guy who's
doing things business ways. I yeah.

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I look, I didn't vote for
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But I always figure, you,
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life more than the bigger stuff,
not that the bigger stuff does well.

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I'm not saying that like I get
that, but what happened to right in

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your town? Those are pretty important
elections, right, It's affecting your money,

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your you know. So I always
go, it's not gonna be that

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that bad either way. It's kind
of was my thinking. Some people will

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get very mad at me for saying
that, but I was like, eh,

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right, but you're right, we
don't count. I mean, we

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don't don't We don't even have to
really vote. Our votes is not it's

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like estate that that's all I'm saying. It's almost like it just doesn't matter.

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But you know, and and I
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how does he lose? He wins, how does he lose? How does

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he lose? How does he lose? For the man to get shot and

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then say, everybody get down.
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podcast, they said, and they
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always has this mentality, and he
knew like cameras are on me, this

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is going to be a photographic moment
to like go up and put his fist

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bump up, which also leads to
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from one hundred and fifty yards away, like, was this some type of

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setup? Just didn't where If he
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this was a total setup. If
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wasn't killed, If he wasn't killed, the shooter was killed, right,

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The shooter was killed immediately, like
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shot, Like I've shot those AR
fifteens, and so you'll get a lot

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of rounds off pretty quickly. It's
really hard to miss anybody in the army,

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anybody a cook. Everybody is trained
on an M four, which is

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basically the military version of the AR
fifteen. It's pretty much the same platform

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of a gun. They're all trained
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you got to be a pretty bad
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so if you're aiming for somebody's head, you'll probably hit him in the

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middle of the back if you're from
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and put it through that. Like
the drop on this gun is not that

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bad. A lot of some guns
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This is like it's a sixteen inch
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i've read, I haven't read a
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kicked off his school rifle team for
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wherever this kid was. Yeah,
yeah, so they so he wasn't so

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he's a bad shot. It's illegally
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bought in twenty thirteen. How no, I just don't know how he got

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up there. But he's a twenty
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sorry, but to miss from one
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like if Trump hadn't turned his head
to look at the charge at that moment,

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that's where whiz by his ear or
graced his ear. They even said

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that like there were citizens that were
calling local cops to report the sniper,

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the gunman, and that nothing was
done about it. Se that's the thing

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that I think raises a lot of
conspiracy. But I don't think there's a

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conspira. I mean, it is
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he's not military trained he's not police
trained, gets up on a roof and

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is able to get off a shot
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former president and current president presidential candidate. Is a catastrophic collapse in security,

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just is. But I don't know
how the fuck that happened. We have

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two people who were at the rally
that we're going to talk to just to

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see kind of how the chaos that
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When you hear that, it is
just like there was one video of somebody

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near the roof, like I don't
know, like I guess it was because

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he was shooting from behind it towards
from the back of Trump, towards the

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crowd, because that's where the fifty
one year old guy got killed. Who

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would dove in front of his kids. And this one lady is yeah,

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I mean, she's just screaming her
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named so I go, Russ.
This sounds like an old school name to

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me, So I'm thinking it's her
husband. But I have no idea.

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I mean, she's just screaming her
head off, and I go, I

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can't imagine what that would be like
in terms of trauma. But yeah,

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Trump, Just I don't know if
that's like you're adrenaline, Like, who

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was you who said the cameras are
on him? And he's, well,

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yeah, he's used to that.
The cameras have been under from years.

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He produces TV shows, He's been
into the show. And here's the thing

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that I always get a little bit
irked with. And I'm not again a

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Trump fan, but I go the
media created Trump. Oh, they've sure

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held there now. The media hates
Trump. You're absolutely right. And you

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know the fact that he jumped back
up, and I don't know if that's

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adrenaline, if that's I swear to
god, I saw the fight fight and

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then I thought I saw him say
fuck you. Yeah, I swear to

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god I did. But maybe I'm
just in my own head thinking if that

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were me, and it grazed my
ear. And then once I'm like cognizant

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of I'm okay and no more shots
are being fired. I'm filled with rags

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that someone tried to Before he became
president, he was on the view all

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the time, he was on Rosie
Donald, he was on Oprah, and

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it's like, and ay, I
loved him. He was a celebrity.

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They got to go to celebrity parties
and stuff like that, and they all

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turned on him when he went in
went into politics because he's a real.

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He's a he's a real. That's
he's what the politician should be. I

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mean, the guy's out of his
fucking mind. But thank you. But

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Laura not a fan, not Joe
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a fan either. I'm not a
fan. I'm just saying no, I

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I know you're not. I know
you're not I know where you usually land

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politically, yes I do, but
I I think that most people are would

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go I don't agree with this,
and I don't agree with this, but

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you're saving my job, You've got
my back, you're gonna protect America.

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You're I swear that that's where people
are at. I told you. The

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ninety eight year old guy from D
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presidents to come down off the dais
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He just I think he's a piece
of ship. Yeah. I also I'm

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not a big Biden fan. Yeah, I just really wish it was too

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completely different candidates. Would you like
to see because I don't know, I

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mean, I know Gavin Newsom's name. Yes, Obama would be a good

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one. Oh, I do love
her, but like I don't even think

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she wants that. I think they're
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say I didn't like the school lunch. She free school lunches are not good,

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James, I have to eat him
every day. See My My whole

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worry with the whole Trump in economy
is that you are thinking right now,

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what's going to be beneficial to you
right now? I'm terrified for the future

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with the Supreme Court and what it
means for women in the future. And

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well, Dad, is the women's
not the right thing. I agree with

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you, Harry in My whole family
is Republican. I that doesn't bother me,

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but I just don't like how extreme
he is. And I'm really really

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terrified for the Supreme Court. Honestly, Okay, I think those are valid.

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They're concerns to have. I really, I really do see like you

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can't. I'm getting to the point
where I can't hate a guy just because

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I don't whatever, because I didn't
like Celebrity Apprentice, Well that's not it,

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but just because like I always you
know what it is. Somebody said

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to me today, you have to
be thirty five to be president. Where's

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the younger person? I go,
nobody wants the job. But go back

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a couple just go back a couple
of decades when you were told as a

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kid, when you grow up,
you can be president. Right, No,

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who says that now nore up?
You could be an influencer. I

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mean, we don't. You know
what I'm saying. We don't. We

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don't say that anymore. And that
and I wonder if, like and then

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when you look at Trump, he
is not as president dental I'll say yes,

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compared to the others. Like when
he started the debates and he started

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picking on everybody and calling him names
like little Rubio and this one in your

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small hands and whatever, right right, we all laughed, but we went,

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holy shit, you could do that
like it was it was it was

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like but it was so what we're
not used to. There's decorum, and

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there's a thing, and it's a
gentleman and this is and he came in

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and kind of kicked the door open. And I think that most people and

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here's and here's what Trump is is
he's for the He is for me,

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the middle aged guy. That's that's
barely making into works, you know what

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I mean? It works. He's
for me, yea, And he was

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as much as I didn't like him, and I didn't vote for him.

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I didn't vote the last two votes. My father's was rolling in his grave.

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Yeah. Well so, yeah,
that's interesting you say that because you're

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not the first person to sit in
that chair and say the same thing.

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I didn't vote one time, But
this is where I always go, you

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know, when I look at this, and I was thinking a lot about

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Trump and I something. It might
have been a Michael Moore piece, and

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what he was saying in there is
these guys who are now sort of disenfranchised,

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the displaced middle class American who worked
in the factory and the factories are

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moving on and kind of in these
roust belt cities right Ohio, maybe even

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a little bit of Buffalo, that
kind of you know, eerie Pennsylvania,

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these kind of places right all of
a sudden, they don't have anything.

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They're not making money, their families
have collapsed, their wives have left them,

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some of them may be homeless.
But they have one thing. They

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have one vote. They have one
vote, and so does the millionaire.

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He has one vote. And that's
where they're equal, and this guy it's

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like the ultimate fuck you. I've
got the guy who's the anti establishment guy

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who's going to come in, and
that seems to be it. All right.

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I didn't mean to start that way
because lots of things, well,

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only because I think it's the biggest
thing going on right now. And I'm

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saying in my mind, I go, you remember where you were? You

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will remember. I'm not sure how
old. I don't know how old you

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guys. If you remember the Space
Space Shuttle blowing up, that was my

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birthday eighth So you do remember I
turned old. That was in eighth grade.

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You were in eighth grade. I
was in tenth grade. How's that

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possible? We're the same age?
I was in eight I mean I was

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nineteen maybe six, I was,
Yeah, I was in eighth grade.

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What year did you graduate high school? Nineteen ninety? Oh you're you're younger

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than me. No, I stayed
back here, all right, all right,

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so okay, you know eighth grade. I was in tenth grade,

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so right around there anyway, Like
you remember where you were, right,

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I remember where I was when I
heard Kobe died. I remember where I

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was. It's just certain significant things
in the Kurt Cobay nine eleven, nine

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to eleven, You remember where you
were absolutely? How old were you at

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nine eleven? That was twenty four
years ago. I was in ninth grade.

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Ninth grade, so you were a
high school kid. I was okay

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then I was a sophomore. But
I remember I was at my last I

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had come in from pe class and
I was at my locker and two of

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the guys who had lockers on the
other side of me were like, Yo,

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did you hear about the plane flying
into the twin towers? So then

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I went to my next class and
it was actually US history, and we

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sat there and we just watched.
Yeah, did you see the second plane

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go in? Or no, you
did yep. During that time, I

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remember where I was working at Flaherty's
at that moment, and I called them

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and I was like, are we
going to be open tonight? They're like,

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yep, come in. I was
like, okay, were they Yeah?

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It was quiet. No, it
was a weird thing, right,

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yes, yeah, because I remember
his oldest brother was eleven months old,

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and I remember him running around and
I was home because I was doing afternoons.

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Yeah, it was September. He
was gonna be his birthdays later in

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September. So he's eleven months old
almost, and he's running around and I'm

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watching on TV. My uncle was
a pilot and my cousin's a pilot for

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Delta Airlines at the time, so
I was sure what airline this was,

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and I remember calling my old man
and I had watched the I had the

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Today Show on. I was doing
afternoons in CMF. I had The Today

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Show on and I watched the first
play. Go a small plane, That's

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what they kept saying, A small
plane hit the tower. And then so

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I flip over to CNN because I
go, oh, this sounds weird,

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right, And they were going to
a commercial break, and I'm watching,

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and then all of a sudden,
you see the second one circling around and

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go right in. And the weird
part is I had been in the Twin

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Towers often because my aunts worked for
ADT on the ninety second floor, so

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we used to go up there as
kids a lot, like when they had

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the tall ships come in, and
I think I remember nineteen eighty six.

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I think that Fourth of July was
all the tall ships and we went up

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to the up there and watched from
observation decks and everything. It was fucking

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awesome. I've been in the Twin
Towers often since happened. Just go.

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It was really, really freaky.
It was surreal. Last April I took

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the boys to New York City and
we went to the Memorial and then we

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went up we did the one World
Trade Center. I haven't been to that

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and they were like, Mom,
what is this all about? And I

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so weird. It's so weird.
Don't teach it? They don't teach well.

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I mean, yeah, but Mark, my kids are they were at

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that point eight and sex. Well
right now, I'm seeing if you well,

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asked Jamie Samison, do you know
do you know about nine to eleven?

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Yeah? They teach it in school. Yes, what do they teach

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you in school? Our teacher went
in depth and showed recordings that she took

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while she was there, and she
also went on to say, like when

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it hit the Pentagon that she thinks
it was an inside job. Okay,

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so hanging on a second. To
Mark's point, I don't think it's a

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lot in textbooks because that's a comparison. To me. There was nothing about

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Vietnam. We were coming through school, there was nothing really taught about the

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Vietnam War, basically because we shouldn't
have been there probably and we had the

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French try to fight at first.
But all that I learned from a teacher

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who, much like Jamison saying,
taught us from their own stuff instead of

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the materials. That is interesting.
You're right she went off topic one day.

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This is also off topic, but
she just went in on the O.

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J. Simpson case one day and
went on for two days and told

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us to study it. And it
wasn't even what we were learning about.

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Was this a history teacher? Not
I try. I try to tell my

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mom and like be like, oh. She said that when it hit the

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Pentagon, she thought it was like
a like a rocket and not a you

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know what I mean, Yeah,
not a plan. My mom was like

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picked up the phone and called the
school and then they didn't they can't do

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anything about it. Well, don't
forget your uncle is a West Point guy

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who wound up being over in Afghanistan. And she also did say that like

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she was kind of trying to put
it on us that it was that nine

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to eleven was an inside job and
was trying to not she should teaching facts

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you can't accept. She was telling
us about her conspiracy theory. Bro,

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she had his conspiracy theories for She
wasn't a freaky teacher. That's actually like

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a real teacher, like you like
her, actually a real teacher. What

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do you know? No, No, he liked her in class. He

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liked her. She was she was
a normal teacher. But she just had

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you know, like she liked to
talk about her thoughts and so. But

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it wasn't in a weird way.
She just like to share it. That's

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what I would like. Yes,
you know, right, And and she's

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somebody who's going to let you free
think a little bit, right, a

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little free think it is. But
you're right, you will get big trouble

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if you tried that ship around here
at all. Oh my god, All

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right, we'll take a moment.
Uh We're going to talk to some people

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who were at the rally uh in
Pittsburgh when the shooting came out. With

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the shooting happened at President Trump the
assassination. Time called that uh BTV wood

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Fire, Pizza and grill and the
mall Grease Ridge. You got the sausage

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wagon Jamison. Yeah, how good
was that? Was? Had fresh Montrelle

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finished. It's so it's a lot
of monts arena. But it's not bad.

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It's not bad at all. It's
really good as it is, really

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like your done six minutes? No, I like to check my time,

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Yes, Davis does what did you
get? Bill? I I didn't today

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And the only reason is because uh
no, no, no, not because

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they brought Joe. Because I I
had Jamis and I met some friends today

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who hung out their pool and we
had Venison burgers. So I like three

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or four of these venice three or
four Jesus Christ, Hey, it was

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protein. Yes, But I will
tell you that everything at bTB is fantastic

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because I know that I had you
had this? Is that? The strawberry

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field salad? Yes, it is
fantastic. I think of all the salads

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that I've gotten for a monthly salad, this is the best. Yeah.

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See the spring mixed, juicy strawberries, crispy bacon, crumbly blue cheese,

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walnuts, and your choice of dressing
on top of that. And it looks

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like they gave you some Italian dressing. Maybe I don't think a vinegrett,

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but definitely, Chris, it's nice. That nice. You can add grilled

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chicken when you go in, or
steak or shrimp or anything to that,

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or the black bean burger if you
want to add it to the salad,

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that's always good. The annipasto panini
is what you had, Joe, Okay,

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I was wondering. Yeah, it's
ham, mozzarella, artichokes, black

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dollars, pepperoni, pepperccini, and
their house made Italian dressing, which I

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love. And then I'm always a
big fan of the house chips at bTB.

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It's just my favorite. And when
you get out there, don't forget

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about the brunch either. You know, Sunday Sunday Brunch is really impressive over

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there. So yes, because they've
got everything. You can get everything from

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like eggs, Benedict the Waffles,
breakfast pizza and then buy one, get

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one Mimosa's Bloody Mirrors. I didn't
realize how many daily specials they have because

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Joe is a bTB goer. Yeah, and he's like, we got to

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go for the ten dollars burgers and
everything, And then he was actually just

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talking to my brother in law.
My brother in law goes there every single

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week for lunch. Oh yeah,
my brother in law was telling me that,

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yes, yes, when we were
at your house, Yes, he

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another movie. It wasn't. Yeah, I'm trying to remember it. I

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was thinking of a different movie.
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was gone. Oh yeah, I
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concerts though, didn't you. I
did not know? Yeah, uh so

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Dan is not here tonight. But
he was telling me that he knew a

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couple of people, or heard of
a couple of people who were at the

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rally with Trump, and we were
talking about that, and it's been everywhere

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in the news. I mean,
this is an unprecedented, scary thing.

407
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,079
And I did see somebody talking about
it where they're like, what what was

408
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,240
left? They impeached them twice,
right, they embellisd some other stuff.

409
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:36,759
They got him on this. The
only thing left to dude was was assassination.

410
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,000
And I think somebody said that prior
to the weekend. But it's a

411
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:47,279
very scary and I would think very
upsetting thing. Uh. Joyce Gallagher is

412
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,960
a teacher in Buffalo. Retired teacher. Joyce Yes, retired, retired teacher.

413
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,519
How many years have you been retired? Just to My parents were teachers,

414
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,200
but down in the Potipsie area where
I grew up with the Uh.

415
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:07,920
But what what did you teach?
I taught homeac very nice, nice and

416
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:11,599
UH. And your friend Greg is
on the phone as well. And you

417
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,119
and Greg went to the rally in
Pittsburgh. Why did you feel compelled to

418
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,480
go to this? Do you want
to start, Craig or should I?

419
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,720
Oh? I was always looking for
a traveling companion to a Trump rally.

420
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:34,319
I couldn't find anybody, And and
my buddy Joyce here is well, you

421
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,160
know, she's been a lifelong Democrat. She's going no, I want to

422
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,880
go. I want to go when
so, Joyce, you've been in a

423
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,799
lifelong Democrat? Are you? You're
a Trump supporter? Now? Well,

424
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:51,240
what happened is that I didn't like
what was going on with the Democratic Party,

425
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:55,680
you know, a few years ago, and then I decided to go

426
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:59,839
independent, and then they stopped the
Independent, and then I became Republican.

427
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:07,160
Okay, but basically I I have
I have conservative views. I I went

428
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,839
to the party that you know,
fit my my views on life. So

429
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:18,799
I found that in the Republican Party. And what inspired me to go to

430
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:26,799
to go to the Trump rally was
the fact that I am so set up

431
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:32,400
with what's going on in our country, you know, like we're losing so

432
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,559
much. I grew up in a
time when I would have never thought that

433
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,119
I see the things that I see
so and experience the things that I've experienced

434
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:48,039
in the last you know, maybe
you know a few years. And I

435
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:52,119
said that to get this angst out
of me, I've got to like shout

436
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,880
and you know, just be a
part of people that feel the same way

437
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:02,960
I do. So yep. So
Joyce, can I say, because before

438
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,359
you came on and I had your
wrong phone number of things, Dan greg

439
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,240
was saying that you're a black woman. And I only think that's important because

440
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:18,000
there's many people who believe that President
Trump had some racial I don't know if

441
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,880
we could say racist, but racial
overtones maybe maybe racist things. Did you

442
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,200
ever feel that way when he was
president before or in anything leading up to

443
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,759
his presidency? Not at all,
not at all. As a matter.

444
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,279
When I went to the rally,
I was treated very well. Yes,

445
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,039
well, I would assume that would
you kind of be the case, but

446
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:44,440
you're you know, you're retired,
so you're I would assume, in your

447
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,839
early to mid sixties, So you've
seen things over the years and how I

448
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,759
would think segregation that sort of thing, or at least no family members that

449
00:30:53,480 --> 00:31:00,000
lived through that time. So nothing
with Trump in any way ever kind of

450
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:06,519
rubbed you the wrong way in terms
of that. No, the thing is

451
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:10,279
is that I have you know,
over time, I have heard how he

452
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:17,519
has helped black people in many ways. One is employment. He had one

453
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:25,279
of the lowest, no one of
the highest statistics with black unemployment in the

454
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:30,480
sense and employment excuse me. He
raised the standards of black employment, which

455
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:36,759
was, you know, something that
was really outstanding that I thought. Okay,

456
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:41,359
so you go down to this rally, how was the vibe there overall,

457
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:52,079
god fearing people that love this country. Okay, Yeah, there's a

458
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:59,039
lot of I would think that that
seems like a pretty fair assessment of Trump

459
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,039
supporters. It feels like I think
a lot of people have come to the

460
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:08,920
conclusion I don't know that we can
continue with the current president, especially after

461
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,119
watching him the debate, if he's
able to actually fulfill the duties of the

462
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,559
office, I'm not sure. I
think that's Democratic Party is embarrassing this stuff.

463
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:22,279
They're embarrassing this man. Well obviously
shouldn't be doing this. Why there's

464
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,960
some somebody said to me, it's
almost elder abuse. I can't disagree.

465
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,079
Yeah, I know, I mean
it sort of feels that way, right

466
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:37,079
as a former Democrat choice Well,
could you repeat the question. I'm sorry,

467
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,279
I've got so many things going through
my head right now that i'd like

468
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,480
to talk about. You know,
yeah, I just said that watching President

469
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:49,720
Trump, I think there's some people
who feel, excuse me, not President

470
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,440
Trump, President Biden, it's almost
like elder abuse, watching him, putting

471
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:58,319
him out there consistently. Well,
the thing that I have that I'm offended

472
00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:01,640
by is the fact of the lie. You know, like I've always believed

473
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,640
that, you know, truth should
always prevail. And the thing is is

474
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,319
that the lies, the dishonesty,
you know, like the transparency, the

475
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,000
lack of it. I think that
there is you know, I mean,

476
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:21,000
the Constitution says that we have the
right for free speech, but the point

477
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:24,319
is is that free speech is hindered
by people that don't agree with you.

478
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:31,359
And if you don't agree with a
person in this state, not state like

479
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:37,519
New York, but in this climate
you are, there's a bully pulpit.

480
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,480
And also you are you know,
there could be litigation, there could be

481
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,880
lack of employment, you could be
fired, you could be ostracized. There's

482
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,000
so many I mean, we're not
meant to be that way. We're meant

483
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:53,160
to like help each other get through
life. And I'm finding that, you

484
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:59,079
know, like, you know,
it shouldn't go this way. You know,

485
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:01,279
we weren't meant to We weren't meant
to be, you know, like

486
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:08,000
to take away a person's lifestyle or
income because we of a disagreement. We

487
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:12,480
have It's interesting you say that because
I always think that that's a social media

488
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:15,800
thing. And it used to be
where we would have a disagreement and we

489
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:21,119
just maybe walk away saying something like, well, agree to disagree, but

490
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,960
now yeah, you disagree, right, But now it feels like you're not

491
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,360
just wrong and it could pardon my
friends, but you're dead fucking wrong.

492
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,320
And how could you possibly think that
way? And you're right, I mean,

493
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,800
the bully pulp. It's a big
deal. But take me back to

494
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:42,920
the events on Saturday, and you
know where you were and and kind of

495
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,400
how things unfolded and how far into
the speech was President Trump at the time

496
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:53,079
when the shots rang out, Well, it was a very hot day.

497
00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:01,639
Everybody was scrambling to keep cool.
I, Greg and I were trying to

498
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:07,800
find places of you know, coolness
under like building not under buildings, but

499
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,000
next to buildings or wherever we could
find it. And basically we decided that

500
00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:17,119
we would stay in the area of
shelter from the sun until he came.

501
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,719
So what happened is that, you
know, like five o'clock, we were

502
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,519
told that he would arrive at five
o'clock. He did not arrive at five

503
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:30,079
o'clock. He arrived a little after
six, so we decided to go down

504
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,440
and get a place near the stadium
or not the city of the platform so

505
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,639
that we can get a good look
at him. And it was like,

506
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:45,360
you know, like shoulder to shoulder. I mean, it was really hard

507
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:51,840
to get real close. There was
a fence between him and us in the

508
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:59,480
platform, and then there was probably
oh maybe eight or ten you know dick

509
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:04,599
deep people you know around that.
I mean, I'm discussing, but it

510
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:08,360
was a pretty thick crowd around the
fence. Even so, what happened is

511
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:14,079
that you know, the rarey started. He you know, there was the

512
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,159
music that was being played that you
know, got you you know, excited

513
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:25,440
about like being there. When he
finally arrived, you know, everybody was

514
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:30,880
cheering. He told he told people
how much he loved them, which is

515
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,159
really you know, like really outstanding, you know, like to to to

516
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,280
be so personable that you show people
that you really care about them as opposed

517
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,760
to you know, the fake caring. You know. So he came out

518
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:52,360
and basically, you know, it
was there was like a round of applause.

519
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,280
Obviously, you know a lot of
you know, like chanting things like

520
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:06,719
that. What I recall before all
this happened. Is well, maybe i'll

521
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,639
go to I'll just continue on the
same plane. So therefore, you know,

522
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:16,519
he started to talk. He said, he was talking about the things

523
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:21,480
that he has done. And the
funny thing is is that, you know,

524
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:25,320
like, it wasn't long before shots
rang up. But I'll go back

525
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,239
he started on his talk. He
he said that I don't like you know,

526
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,039
talking, you know, with the
telecopter, but he said that I

527
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,960
need to show these statistics to you. So he was he was looking,

528
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:47,039
he was having us look at the
statistics of how the border has changed from

529
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:52,400
his administration to the prior, not
the prior, well the prior and the

530
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,599
the current editation. And you know, we were fixed on that. You

531
00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:00,519
know, everybody was fixed on what
he was saying. And souddenly, there

532
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,440
was the pop, pop, pop
pop. It wasn't even long after he

533
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,360
had started that that the popping came. Now, I've never heard a gunshot,

534
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:13,000
so I thought it was just you
know, like firecrackers or something like

535
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,400
that. But then immediately somebody said
shot, you know, shot to get

536
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,199
down. And I have never seen
people flattened so quick in my life.

537
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,880
And so what happened after that is
that you know, we saw him taken

538
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,840
off the stage. Everything you know, became I won't see, I won't

539
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:37,760
say it became mayhem. But in
a in a in a uh, it

540
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:45,079
became like people, uh, there
was how can I say it, people

541
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,480
kind of like realized that this was
not a good situation, and they started,

542
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:52,519
you know, like going through the
cars. I mean, some people

543
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:58,039
ran, there were people crying,
There were people on their phones. You

544
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,400
know, there was there was the
gamut of some people saying the president is

545
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,000
dead to like, you know,
oh, there's nothing. You know,

546
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,159
it was just like firecrackers. I
mean, you you know, you can't

547
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:13,000
go by what you hear when people
are in that state of like perplexity.

548
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,920
And it was so surrealistic. I
mean like I mean, I mean,

549
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:22,559
here you are looking at you know, statistics, you see you're your your

550
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:28,559
charge because you see President Trump.
You you you're you're part of like a

551
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:36,239
rally. You know, like you're
part of like a good uh You're you're

552
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:43,119
a part of something that's really positive. You're you're paying attention to the information

553
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:49,880
he's trying to educate you on.
And suddenly it becomes surreal and The thing

554
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,159
is that before and I'll jump back
to what I was saying before, when

555
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:57,480
we came down from the shelter to
you know, to the area where the

556
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,679
podium was, there was a lady
in front of us a said, you

557
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,679
know, the snipers on top of
the on top of the roof, and

558
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,400
I have never seen snipers, so
therefore the snipers like again, So really

559
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,000
I said, what you know,
like, you know, are we overdoing

560
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,719
it and all that? But I
really learned later that we weren't, you

561
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,000
know, overdoing it. And the
interesting thing is too, is that when

562
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:23,440
we when we were when we came
down from the shelter, we wanted to

563
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:29,920
get a closer look. So there
was a secret State secret serve it a

564
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:36,000
secret Service agent with the radio that
looked like he was going closer to the

565
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:38,960
fence. So we followed him and
it looked as though he must have gotten

566
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,480
information on something that was you know, about to happen. And then you

567
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:46,920
know, seconds after that, you
know, the popping came and then you

568
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,239
know, he disappeared and we hit
the ground. And how scared were you

569
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,440
or did you even have any time
to be scared? I didn't have time

570
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,920
to be scared. I will say
this. When we hit the ground,

571
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,039
I couldn't believe that I was doing
this, but I did it. And

572
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:06,119
when I got up, I,
you know, I know that I wasn't

573
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,000
shuttering like that, but I actually
touched my toy. So to think,

574
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,519
you know, like maybe you know
like I did, or you know what

575
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:16,519
I mean, maybe didn't feel it
right. I got bad knees. So

576
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:24,440
I heard the layout so quickly was
yeah, it was actually everybody did everybody

577
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,480
but me. I can give a
different version if you're if you're interested in

578
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:34,159
hearing it, because I'm more I'm
more practical. So we left at nine

579
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,039
in the morning. It was a
three hour drive. We get there at

580
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:40,199
noon. We stand in line for
an hour. We're in a wide,

581
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,199
open field, which is you know, it's it's basically the fair grounds.

582
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:50,280
There was only one tree in the
whole complex, so we stood in an

583
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,440
hour, in line for an hour
to get in. Get in. At

584
00:41:53,440 --> 00:42:00,360
one o'clock they open up the gates. I expected to see Trump Junior and

585
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,719
and Marjorie Green and Matt Gates.
There was nobody a couple of local politicians

586
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,960
that spoke at three o'clock. So
from noon till five. There was nothing

587
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,079
going on, just an open field, everybody mingling. They did have some

588
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:22,559
nice food trucks and water, I
mean pallets and palettes of free water,

589
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:30,199
which everybody went through, no shade
whatsoever. So along the back fence there

590
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:37,119
was the EMTs that they literally had
a line of ambulances taking people in because

591
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:43,159
of heat stroke or sunstroke. They
were dropping like flies. So all the

592
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,719
people that were in the bleachers,
you know, you have to get there

593
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:51,800
early, you know, to get
your fifteen minutes of fame behind President Trump.

594
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,840
Well that was a constant rotation of
people because nobody could tolerate the sun

595
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:01,440
that long to save their space.
So, you know, Joyce and I

596
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:07,960
we wanted to get behind President Trump
to be on cameras and it was our

597
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,199
first rally and to you know,
tell America, here we are and we

598
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,280
support President Trump. So the people
that, you know, the ones that

599
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,760
were shot and hurt, you know, they could have been rotated in there.

600
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,639
They could have been there like only
five minutes, right. And there

601
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:32,599
was two two bleacher sets. The
first one which President Trump was in front

602
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:39,079
of with the cameras to as you
look at him through the camera to his

603
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,320
to our right at that point,
there was another set of bleachers. Those

604
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,400
were the people that were shot in
that set of bleachers. And I do

605
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,719
a lot of shooting. So when
the gunfire went off, it wasn't pop

606
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,920
pop pop, it was bang bang
bang, and it happened. So President

607
00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:00,440
Trump was on stage for six minutes, okay, and the reason and you

608
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,079
know, we were all in shock. And then the police, I mean

609
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:12,480
there was about a thousand different police
officers and officials there within us, mingling

610
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:16,840
amongst us and keeping us, you
know, everybody safe in theory, and

611
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,039
they moved us right out. So
that whole place. So President Trump came,

612
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,840
he was there for six minutes,
they moved him out, and they

613
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:31,840
had us out of that fair ground
field within another six minutes. The whole

614
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,880
place was clear. We were all
in because they turned it into a crime

615
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:42,960
scene, you know, so people
didn't just meander through. They were literally

616
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,320
forced out. And then we spent
three hours. You know, here we

617
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:51,119
are in our car thinking we're going
to drive away, and then they shut

618
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:54,760
down all the roads. All cell
phone and Wi Fi was turned off,

619
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,360
so we you know, our loved
ones at home were trying to get touch

620
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,400
with us, and they couldn't so
you know, everybody was panicking thinking that

621
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,400
we were shocked. Wow, so
that was they jam They jammed the cell

622
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,480
phones, right, you couldn't make
calls in or out. Well, I

623
00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:19,280
what I was I thought they shut
them down because they you know, you

624
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,000
know, my phone normally works at
any time, right. But what we

625
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,679
were told after the fact was there
was you know, fifty thousand people there

626
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,960
all trying to make a phone call
at the same time that they just locked

627
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:36,000
up the system. Yeah, well
that happens. I mean, well,

628
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:38,639
we have Fairport music fests. It's
true. You can't get a call out,

629
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,639
you can't get a text. You
get the text the next day Mebia

630
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,960
at such and such bar. You're
like, sorry, mister, yeah,

631
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:50,039
well sold, Then what what they
told us is potentially true. Then yes,

632
00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:52,639
yes, I thought again I thought
the experience, Yeah, I thought

633
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,480
maybe they jammed that. I don't
know, I would assume there's a way

634
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,320
to Well, that's what I thought
too. I mean, it was an

635
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,440
assassination attempt. And so were you
scared? Greg? Is this is going

636
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,639
on? I mean that that that's
a pretty heavy deal. It's a pretty

637
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:08,719
heavy ordeal, and it's scary and
you don't know where the shots are coming

638
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,840
from. And you know, well
we knew where the shots were coming from.

639
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:15,639
We didn't know, you know,
we're on the ground. We can't

640
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,800
see up on the roof right at
one hundred and fifty yards. In fact,

641
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,360
I didn't even know there's buildings there, honestly, right, you know,

642
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,920
I look at the photos I took
and if you look way in the

643
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,920
back, I guess that's the roof
that you know we shot from, but

644
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,440
from us on the ground. So
the people that actually saw the shooter that

645
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:38,360
you see on television, they were
up in the bleachers, so they could

646
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,239
see him because they were at a
higher level. Yes, yes, yes,

647
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,440
yes, I got you. And
then surprisingly, you know there,

648
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,559
you know, because a lot of
people, We're talking a lot of people.

649
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:52,800
Everybody was trying to find shade at
some point during the day, so

650
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,840
some of those people had mingled within
that building and that's when they saw the

651
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,639
shooter climb the ladder. You know, that's it. And there was a

652
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:07,840
you know, but we weren't.
We were actually next to the mainstream media

653
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,559
platform, okay, did you We
were to the right of that directly and

654
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:16,800
in the sense that Joyce was talking
about, was you know, it's kind

655
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:22,159
of a barricade divider kind of thing. You know, they can move them

656
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:27,079
in and out. It wasn't an
actual sense they come in pieces and did.

657
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,400
And then there was chairs in front
of the mainstream media up to the

658
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,639
platform because you know, the front
chairs are for those Trump Joe's and the

659
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,039
I p s. And then there
was a few chairs, you know,

660
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:45,639
backing up to the mainstream media platform. Yeah, so I'll ask you both

661
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:51,920
this, has he secured the uh
the nomination? I know he secured the

662
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,079
nomination for the Republican but has he
has he won the office of the presidency

663
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,280
for a second time already? People
to say that, you mean, what's

664
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,119
our feeling. Yeah, there's many
people who said it's over, Well we

665
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:07,639
should be it's over. It's not. Well, you know, go ahead

666
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:10,719
and go ahead, George, we'll
both we'll both answer. We both had

667
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,599
different political points of view on that. But yeah, my thought on the

668
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:22,239
you know, like, I think
it's providential. I think that, you

669
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,880
know, like for a bullet to
get so close to a person's head and

670
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:32,679
missed like that, it was it
was the providence of God. I do

671
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:39,199
believe that. I think about what
happened with George Washington. George Washington,

672
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:47,400
are you familiar with what happened with
him? Well, in the in the

673
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,320
middle of like battle, his horse
was shot from beneath him. You know,

674
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,159
he was he was surrounded by an
array of bullets, but none of

675
00:48:55,199 --> 00:49:00,480
the bullets hidn't. There's a famous
painting that you can see. I don't

676
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,840
know if you're and I don't know
the name of it, but it's a

677
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,599
white horse. It's up on its
hind legs and you're seeing bullets all around.

678
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,280
The president or what became what he
wasn't the president at the time,

679
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,440
I think it was General Washington then, correct, correct, And at that

680
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,719
time what happened is that you know, they I guess they looked at his

681
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,960
clothing and they realized that this man
should have been dead. So I look

682
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,480
at I, you know, forward
into you know Trump, you know,

683
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,719
President Trump. It's almost providential that, you know, like you know,

684
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:37,000
washing, General Washington was you know, forging a country and here you have

685
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:40,639
President Trump, you know, trying
to forge our country in a different way

686
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,239
in a sense. So that's my
that's my thought of it, because if

687
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:52,000
if things, if he does not
get in, we're not going to see

688
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:58,480
America again, the way we thought, the way it was it was written.

689
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:06,840
But what Yeah, well, I'm
an avid shooter. And if you

690
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,119
look at the giant ass leg that
was behind President Trump, that the cranes

691
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:15,679
were holding up, that thing was
almost horizontal. So the wind was very

692
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:22,199
strong in President Trump's favor. I
mean, but again I have to agree

693
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,440
with with Joyce that you know it
was an act. It was the hand

694
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,440
of God that saved him. Well, how do you not turn to show

695
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:35,440
you the stats? I think he's
dead. Well, his head was turned.

696
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,840
I mean, if you watched the
clips on Fox or whatever, you

697
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:45,119
watch the snipers behind him. The
snipers actually had the shooter in his scupe.

698
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:50,280
He lifted his head off the scupe, the shots fired from the shooter,

699
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,519
the sniper puts his head back on
the scope and had President Trump's head

700
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:59,800
really didn't deviate one way or the
other. He was still looking to his

701
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,000
Yeah at the chart. Yeah,
had he not been if he didn't have

702
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:06,679
those charts, they saved his life. I think he said that, and

703
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:12,119
it seems to be true. This
guy clearly a terrible shot. That's an

704
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:15,440
easy platform, easy gun to shoot, and only one hundred and fifty yards,

705
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:17,639
you know, as a shooter for
an AR fifteen. Like I said,

706
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:22,360
the wind was pretty was pretty stiff. Well either that stuff that's just

707
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:29,159
stupid. I was in shot,
Okay, I witnessed it. When everyone

708
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:32,360
else dropped down, I didn't.
I just stood there. Why And I

709
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,760
had a difference because I wasn't really
afraid for my life. I mean the

710
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,840
shooting, I knew they weren't shooting
at me. They were shooting at him.

711
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,880
And it ended pretty quickly. I
mean we're talking. It seems you

712
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,480
watch television, it seems like a
twenty right exactly. You know. I

713
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,880
feel bad for the Secret Service because
they show a photo. You know,

714
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:00,400
look at the Secret Service agent couldn't
holster her pistol. Between the shot being

715
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,519
fired then covering them and getting them
into the car was literally seconds. Yeah,

716
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,840
you know, it really is.
Have you shot an AAR fifteen?

717
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,159
Oh yeah all the time? Yeah, week I go out shooting. Yeah,

718
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:15,440
those are I mean those bullets fly
quick, right and and yeah,

719
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,960
I mean they're just you got it, and so you're just hitting a bunch

720
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,880
of those and uh, I think
the snipers had him. I don't know

721
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,559
how many rounds the kid got off, but it couldn't have been a whole

722
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:31,760
lot. Yeah, I'm still confused
about that myself. But it you know,

723
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,800
it wasn't pop hop hop. It
was bang bang bang it was and

724
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,920
it sounded very close it did from
my point of view, okay, But

725
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,920
also to the right of that,
there was an explosion. I thought it

726
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,800
was a fire hose, like maybe
a straight bullet hit a fire hose or

727
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,199
it couldn't quite figure it out,
but it was coming out of a straight

728
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,960
up hole and it was like a
fire hose sprang out like dirty water.

729
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,519
And nobody ever made a mention of
that. But this went on for about

730
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:06,320
thirty seconds of the spray of whatever
it was, and then it ended somebody

731
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:13,199
had poured upon It was definitely all
right. It was like hitting a fire

732
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,079
fire hydrat. I got you,
oh so rusty water, Yeah, anytime

733
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:22,679
they've opened up. I once in
radio I had the lovely task of they

734
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,559
wanted to be submerged in water for
thirty six hours, but they would draw

735
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:29,840
curtains and you could sleep in all
this. But they filled it greg with

736
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,320
the fire hydrant that hadn't been opened
in forever, and there was so much

737
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,679
rust in this water. That it
needed to settle out for a day.

738
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,840
Right, So I think to your
point that somebody probably hit a fire hydrant.

739
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:44,840
It's a lot of rust water,
water that hasn't been released in a

740
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,639
while. And there you go,
that just sounds like a holy hell to

741
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,280
me. I mean, it's really
quite scary and quite upsetting. And you

742
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:58,000
know, whether you support President Trumpet
or not, I think that we talked

743
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,800
about this a little while ago on
the podcast. I I it's a human

744
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,960
being, and I can't imagine what
his family was thinking after you know what,

745
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,840
once you the thought settles into as
to what actually happened, what actually

746
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,840
transpired. That's a very scary and
unsettling feeling. I have to think for

747
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,840
everybody. Oh even you know.
I talked to Joyce this morning and we're

748
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:21,199
both in shock. I mean I
could literally cry in a heartbeat, you

749
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,119
know, if I think about it. You know, I was shedding tears

750
00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:28,840
all day yesterday, and you know
then we have family functions and church and

751
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,000
you know, it just gave me
a good excuse to just you know,

752
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:37,639
cry my eyes out. But yeah, it's it's again. I'm in shock,

753
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:40,800
and I have no words for really, well, what I want to

754
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,840
say to add what you you know, my thoughts is that you know,

755
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:51,400
like we're supposed to be the United
States of America, you know, united,

756
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:57,920
not you know, like divided,
and you know this administration that is

757
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:04,920
that is here dividing us. It's
not it's not keeping us as a group.

758
00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:10,440
And that's my thought. Okay,
all right, well I can understand

759
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,960
that, and I I thank you
both for talking. And I can't imagine

760
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,320
what you went through. And uh, god speed right, thank you,

761
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,440
yes, yes, thank you,
and thanks for listening to us. You

762
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:27,760
got it. Joyce and Greg,
thank you very much. Guys, thank

763
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,920
you, bye bye bye. All
right, there you go. Yeah,

764
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,960
that is I mean interesting, right, I mean they were right there.

765
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:39,360
It's heavy to hear him here and
to hear him say I cried, like

766
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,599
the next day I was, I'm
in shock. That that just shows you.

767
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:45,840
I can't imagine. I've never been
in one of those situations, you

768
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,960
know what I mean. You imagine
going to the country show in Vegas when

769
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,119
that came open front. I mean
I kept thinking, well eleven minutes,

770
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,360
yes, thinking about it's it and
you don't know where to go, Like

771
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,639
this guy may have some ballistics.
I don't know Greg's back. He says

772
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:02,400
he shoots guns, but I don't
know if he's a former police officer,

773
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,079
military guy. I have no idea. He sounded like he could hear understand

774
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:08,440
guns a little bit better, but
most people don't, right, And like

775
00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:14,000
she said, I I thought pop
pop pop is what it sounds like.

776
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,119
It's what it sounded like on the
videos I saw I fired those guns.

777
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,840
But I've been right up on top
of them. But I've only fired him

778
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,559
maybe once twice. It took my
kid to do it with the sheriff.

779
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:29,280
So all right, we'll take a
moment. Well, lighten things up.

780
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,360
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802
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Well. He grew up in Syracuse
and the number one station there was

803
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Conda for a long time. So
that's the uh. He didn't play at

804
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:45,079
any of your country best or whatever
you went to. Now, were you

805
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:51,159
always a country fan or are you
now won by osmosis? So my dad

806
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:57,400
injection? No, my dad was
pure country was Yeah. So my first

807
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,840
concert was Reba McIntyre. Really good
first concert. Yeah, what was your

808
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:06,199
first concert? You know? My
first concert ever? Country concert? No,

809
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,920
first concert ever. Lover Boy and
Zebra at the State Fair. It's

810
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,400
fubra Holy ship, dude. They
were from Long Island. Yes, they

811
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,960
used to come to to WPDH all
the fucking time. They were not They

812
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,719
had like one song that coordimated,
had a couple They sounded like led Zapp

813
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,880
they did, Yes, very much. So lover Boys opening up for Sammy

814
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,400
Hagar they are How weird? Is
that? That is very weird? Joe,

815
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,199
you're a country guy. I'm a
country guy. Unfortunately, you know,

816
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:36,039
well, unfortunately it's the wrong girl. The wrong girl got me listening

817
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:38,559
to different music. Just because my
heart was broken, I lost my dog,

818
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:42,559
drink a beer and I turned country. Okay, but is it What

819
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:45,440
was your first concert? My first
concert I think was actually Lincoln Park,

820
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:52,119
there you go. Yeah, mine
was Stevie Ray Vaughan, Henry Lease Summer

821
00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:54,079
opening Up. You remember Henry Release
Summer? Yes they do, yeah,

822
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,960
like one sum is there Summertime.
I think he's dead somehow. Summertime.

823
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,599
Yeah, it was. I have
to dig it up and see if we

824
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:07,320
can play it in. My all
time favorite artist is Garth Brooks. Garth

825
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,360
Brooks was like he's the man.
And I went to see Garth Brooks in

826
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,960
Buffalo, Buffalo, and he put
on a hell of a show. Like

827
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,679
ten years ago, I was there, jamieson. What what was your first

828
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:23,039
concert? I don't even remember.
Oh, that's right. Oh we went

829
01:00:23,079 --> 01:00:30,159
to see Logic real quick. Walked
into the girl's bathroom, not realizing it

830
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:35,440
wasn't okay, was there a lady
in there? No? Did you did

831
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,800
you just go in the first level? Did you see the little Oh you

832
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,679
went upstairs? Because when I just
went in the one right down here there

833
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:45,440
was a little Jesus Christ figurine and
I almost stole it and brought it in.

834
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:52,440
We need a little we need a
little divine intervention. Who's the country

835
01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:57,800
artist that Mark was showing me?
She had a Jean Maren Marris, Maren

836
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,559
Mars. She had a gene rests. Not a skirt? Is it a

837
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:04,840
skirt? Is a skirt? Okay, just a skirt? I'm an idiot,

838
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:07,239
but it was a slit all the
way up and she's not wearing under

839
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:13,119
her I thought I got it.
I'd have to see here's the thing.

840
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:16,119
I can't look at that because I
would have to stop it, zoom in

841
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:22,679
to make sure there wasn't flesh colored
panties. That's what someone did. Someone

842
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:34,239
had at someone? Did someone do
it? Or did you do it?

843
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:39,039
He's honest. At least he's honest. Right, it's a long skirt,

844
01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:44,199
very very thigh. Are you watching
the video? No? I just pulled

845
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:47,039
up a picture to watch the video. You watch the video and tell me,

846
01:01:47,159 --> 01:01:52,039
like, is this because would you
ever go out in public? And

847
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:58,960
maarn Mars thank you, Well,
of course she knows. But I'm asking

848
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,760
from a woman's perspect is there enough
panel there that you would think that maybe?

849
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:07,599
Well, I'm saying like there's a
I don't I don't even know.

850
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:13,199
I don't have TikTok? Who has
TikTok? I got it? How old

851
01:02:13,199 --> 01:02:17,199
are you? TikTok? What is
wrong with you? I think that she

852
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,599
definitely has on underwear. You do
know she doesn't. Yeah, I'm with

853
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:25,920
you walking You would have known that. Yeah, it's like I'm telling you

854
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:30,719
right now. I'm telling you right
now. I had nothing to do this

855
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,960
morning, right, So I fucked
around with that for at least two and

856
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,400
a half hours because I got up
early, so I went the better the

857
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,519
last night. Yeah, and it's
totally freaking Wait two and a half hours.

858
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:45,360
You spent two and a half hours
on that video seeing if Marrion Marrish

859
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,280
was wearing underwear because I wanted to
be able to say I want to be

860
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,000
able to say that on the show
today. I'm one hundred percent shirt a

861
01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:58,039
very nude. Yes, I'm with
you and thank you, thank you,

862
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:04,000
Jamison, Jamis. What if it's
just a photo though people can photo shot

863
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:08,519
watching the radio, she's there,
There's no way she's walking the stage like

864
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:14,760
that. Spicy Spicy or Nicki Minaj
is one of them. They were on

865
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:21,960
stage and you could you could see
all I think okay, you could see.

866
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:24,519
No, I do think I remember
that. I know, I definitely

867
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:28,239
think that. Yeah, I think
she's got new I'm gonna I'm gonna.

868
01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:30,159
I love the fact that you spent
someone. You broke that down like it

869
01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:34,440
was a prude of film. I
did so fuck you guys to say they

870
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:37,559
even doubt me. Somebody knew that
it spent in a half hours. Somebody

871
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,360
has it. Somebody has it broken
down film of the Trump assassination like that

872
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,960
assassinations an attempt. Let me say
I like that as you did the Marra

873
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:46,639
marks. Well, we have friends. We have friends that watch it,

874
01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:50,679
will watch a football game after,
Yes, they will. We do have

875
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,000
a friend does that? Oh we
have several yes that watch that and then

876
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:57,400
watch the All thirty two or whatever
it is, and yeah, Joe,

877
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,000
do you do that? I know
only if I have to. That looks

878
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:04,239
like underwear. It looks like she's
got panties. She definitely is wearing.

879
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:08,039
I'm going with the ladies opinion on
this. That's all I want to know.

880
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,599
I have a question for you,
since we're talking about this mean girls,

881
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,119
mean girls growing up, do you
run into mean girls? Did you

882
01:04:16,239 --> 01:04:19,760
have an experience with like eighth,
ninth high school. What's the matter?

883
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,159
Were you a mean girl? No? I wasn't mean girl, but I

884
01:04:24,679 --> 01:04:30,039
didn't have like other mean girls I
was. But did you know of did

885
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:31,840
you know of mean girls? Yeah? Okay, one of my best friends

886
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,480
was a bitch to everyone. Okay, here's my question. Do mean girls

887
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:40,599
remain mean girls when they grow up? Because I will tell you that I

888
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:44,519
still think that. Well, I
have a theory. I've always said this

889
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:48,719
that we never grow up, we
just grow old. Because I watch I

890
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:54,280
watched the shit that goes on,
Like sometimes I love to people watch.

891
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,719
It's one of my favorite things to
do. I notice everything. And I

892
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:01,360
can notice when there's like divorced women
in a bar and they're with their girlfriends

893
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,639
and they come in and you can
see the ship and you could almost see

894
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:09,360
who the mean girl is in the
you know right, And you can see

895
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,920
this, And even at my mom's
age, I could pick up. She

896
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:16,239
got a call that was so high
school. I was in the car with

897
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,719
her. It was such a high
school call over a guy that this woman

898
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,320
met on a dating. I pretended
I couldn't hear anything, and my mother

899
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,440
goes, it's just the drama.
I go, yeah, don't you remember

900
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,119
having mean girls to see them up? No? Yes, for the mean

901
01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:34,159
girls say come on, say give
me drop one day, first name only,

902
01:05:34,199 --> 01:05:39,280
first name only, Becky, I
didn't think a girl, yeah,

903
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,760
because you were you were on air. If you're a regular person like me,

904
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,480
soon was a mean girl. Okay. But do they grow up and

905
01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:51,039
change or do they stay the same? To be honest, I would think

906
01:05:51,079 --> 01:05:55,480
that you stay the same. A
little you do, but I think a

907
01:05:55,519 --> 01:05:58,599
lot of those does motherhood It's like
change you a little bit, make you

908
01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:02,559
a little more loving or I still
know grown as women that are older than

909
01:06:02,599 --> 01:06:08,400
me, in their fifties and they're
complete bitches really like always the same when

910
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:13,239
you say bitches, like in what
way? Snooty? Snooty talk about others

911
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,480
behind her back? Yes, the
very critiquing like those just double sided jazz.

912
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:23,519
Also the worst. Well here's my
thing. I think that I didn't

913
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:29,320
have daughters, right, thank God
I had three sons and most so I've

914
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,119
just gone through life like you're a
mean I didn't give it, but I'm

915
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:38,239
watching now. I have friends that
have daughters, and I hear these things

916
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:43,280
and I go, do you outgrow
it? And then I noticed sometimes when

917
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,039
I'm out, I'm like, I
watched this woman come in. Okay,

918
01:06:46,039 --> 01:06:49,199
this is what trigger did for me. I'm somewhere and a friend of mine's

919
01:06:49,199 --> 01:06:53,360
wife goes, I was in the
same sorority as her. God was she

920
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,079
a bitch? Then look at her
and look at her now, and now

921
01:06:56,239 --> 01:06:59,960
this woman had work done on her
face. Her her lips are plumped up

922
01:07:00,239 --> 01:07:03,880
right, definitely botox all the ship. She comes in. She's practically peacocky

923
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,360
in the fucking bar with their tits
out, the big fake you know.

924
01:07:08,519 --> 01:07:12,199
And I went, do we ever? Really? Are you always going to

925
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,719
be that person who's just gonna look
down, I don't know, be mean.

926
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:19,159
Yeah. I think a lot of
people also just hold on to was

927
01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:29,119
their best time in life comes true? You know it's true. Do you

928
01:07:29,199 --> 01:07:31,239
see the webster? I just call
him the Real Housewives a webster. I

929
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,920
think there's a few in there that
are very snooty, and I think they

930
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:39,880
probably compete for guys, and I
get bet they screached. I bet they

931
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,159
screw each other over. I bet
they would try to steal each other's boyfriends

932
01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:46,559
if they could. I'm gonna I'm
gonna disagree. I'm gonna disagree with all

933
01:07:46,599 --> 01:07:54,400
these her side, Well, Laura's
very like very she knows some snooty people

934
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:59,559
and whatnot, but they're not the
ones that a bar. Okay, you'll

935
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:01,880
know any girls at work at the
bar. Yeah, you hear some freaking

936
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,400
shit. I loved it. I
love it. I just I was just

937
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:11,239
curious. I don't know why.
I remember when I made Joe come work

938
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,079
out with me at the gym.
He one time was like, who was

939
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:16,680
that girl? And he described her
to me. I was like, Oh,

940
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,960
she's the biggest bitch. And he's
like I could tell, like just

941
01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:24,960
by He's like, just how she
walks around your gem, Like right,

942
01:08:25,039 --> 01:08:29,279
this shit doesn't stink. She wears
full on makeup jewelry. Like okay,

943
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:31,840
she comes to the gym, So
going to the gym, she puts a

944
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,439
lot of effort in just to go. Well, I would think most people

945
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,600
just throw your hair up. Yeah, guys throws on a hat. Joe

946
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,159
doesn't do anything because he's gonna shaved
his head. Yeah you're not bald and

947
01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:45,840
you shaved your head. Oh it's
a tattoo. Well I know you guys

948
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,640
are speechless. Yes, my hair
is a tattoo. Bullshit. No,

949
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,880
how do I show you a picture? It's called scalp microblading. So I

950
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:57,000
had this crazy receding hairline. I
was bald up top. I watched an

951
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,800
infomercial on a Saturday morning for like
thirty minutes. Shut the fuck up for

952
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,079
real, Like, you shaved your
head, it looks great. Two hours

953
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:06,000
later I drove to Buffalo. So
I just shave it every two three days

954
01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:12,079
and just a clean haircut. Got
touch it? Sure? Wait no the

955
01:09:12,119 --> 01:09:15,800
first wait, so hang on a
second. Is it tattoo? I'm confused.

956
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,520
Tattoo? It took fifteen hours.
Oh my god, how much pain?

957
01:09:19,119 --> 01:09:21,479
It wasn't painful at all. So
they don't go as deep as a

958
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:26,000
tattoo. But does it wear off? It's supposed to last like four to

959
01:09:26,079 --> 01:09:29,239
six years. Hold on, I'll
let you feel so where you can tell

960
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:32,800
he's good. So if you go
right here where I was receding, you

961
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:42,640
feel nothing, right, Oh but
it looks like there you go. Ah.

962
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,079
Yes, first time he met the
boys, that was like his opening

963
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:48,159
line, like he was like,
guys, my head's a tattoo. And

964
01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:50,520
then Luke was just like, mom, can I go shave my head?

965
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:56,159
Like Joe, what was the opening
line to you do you want to dance?

966
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,279
Okay, all right, yeah,
look at that. But so the

967
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:03,960
tattoo, this is interesting to me. Okay, fifteen hours, fifteen hours,

968
01:10:04,039 --> 01:10:09,000
so it's broken down between three and
four sessions. I was there,

969
01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:12,840
you know, four or five hours
each session. Yeah, this guy in

970
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,239
Buffalo. We drive out there just
laying like this, or laying yes and

971
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:21,359
yes. Just a million dots.
Wow. No, damn, that's it.

972
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:27,279
I know. Hundred dollars was great. That's it. That's it.

973
01:10:27,359 --> 01:10:30,760
The last four to six years.
Did you look into anything like the hair

974
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:35,560
transplant that they do the uh where
they regrow hair like No, I've known

975
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,319
people who have done that where they
pull the scalp a little bit forward.

976
01:10:39,359 --> 01:10:42,800
I mean that all looks really rough. I mean I did want a man

977
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,039
bun, so I looked at the
wigs, but I couldn't go there.

978
01:10:45,079 --> 01:10:46,000
So I couldn't go there. I
saw. I said, you know what,

979
01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:48,439
let me just try this little tattoo
thing. We'll see what happens.

980
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,560
I wanted hair. What do you
want me to do? You're gonna do

981
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,119
a man bun for it? Oh? I would get it to a man,

982
01:10:54,159 --> 01:11:02,000
but a hardbet all right, hair, you never had hair. I've

983
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,279
always had short hair, receding at
a young age. I started shaving my

984
01:11:06,319 --> 01:11:11,239
head when I was twenty nine thirty. What does that do? All right?

985
01:11:11,279 --> 01:11:14,880
Okay, so let let's let's let's
be really let me ask and try

986
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,039
to be really honest. Okay,
what does that do in your mind?

987
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,319
Like again, I've always had a
pretty thick head of hair. Now I

988
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:25,359
feel like there's I'm starting to lose
it back here a little bit. But

989
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,319
I'm also older now. But as
a young guy losing your hair, there's

990
01:11:29,319 --> 01:11:31,560
there's it's gotta be. Does it
fuck with your ego a little bit?

991
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,319
Oh? It definitely? Yeah?
There you go. Yeah, so I

992
01:11:34,359 --> 01:11:39,159
had a lot of baseball apps?
Yeah? Does that make it worse?

993
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,000
The baseball app? Well, I
don't know, Like pulling it on and

994
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,800
off and all of a sudden you
get out, you get a little chunks

995
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,439
of hair in the band around you. I was like that that wasn't no.

996
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,640
But but it fucked with your head? You didn't you it did it?

997
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:55,119
Did you know? Going to the
barber every two weeks and them telling

998
01:11:55,119 --> 01:11:57,039
me, you know, hey,
it's getting a little thin up here.

999
01:11:57,119 --> 01:11:59,640
I don't know what's more we can
do? So I just said one day,

1000
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,640
I'm just gonna take it off.
Yeah. And so how were women

1001
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,439
receptive to that? Like, how
young were in your twenties? I can't

1002
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,720
I'm trying to remember if I was
thirty or thirty one, but I was.

1003
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,479
I noticed I was receding probably twenty
seven, twenty eight to six,

1004
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,720
pretty good. Yeah, then it
really started going up top. And that's

1005
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,439
when there's nothing IgA do, right, Yeah, because it looks like a

1006
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,359
full head of hair. Man,
well, thank you, it does.

1007
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:26,039
Didn't be that type of guy.
You have a pleasant beard though, Like,

1008
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,520
yeah, no, there's no I
mean, that's the rule. You

1009
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:31,680
know, if you're gonna go bald, you gotta have some kind of color,

1010
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,920
you gotta have some facial hair.
And that's just the rule. What

1011
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:40,239
were mean girls like when you were
going bald? I was kidding, I'm

1012
01:12:40,319 --> 01:12:43,640
kidding, I'm kidding. Joe said
he had like a glow up in the

1013
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,720
past. Yeah, I definitely had
a glow up. You know. I

1014
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,920
got him visil line, I got
my hairline. I got in a little

1015
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,840
bit better shape, you know,
I was I was the fat guy in

1016
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:55,039
high school, the fat guy,
really fat guy. Crooked tea. How

1017
01:12:55,079 --> 01:12:59,039
tall are you six too? I
was at my heaviest I was three hundred

1018
01:12:59,039 --> 01:13:05,000
pounds. Holy shit, dueh six
But you probably wore it better than some

1019
01:13:05,079 --> 01:13:09,960
three pounds. I don't know,
man, I loved them and heavy ivex

1020
01:13:10,039 --> 01:13:13,479
T shirt. Yeah, it was
terrible. It's a terrible face. It's

1021
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,319
a lot of weight to be carried
too, I like on your knees and

1022
01:13:15,319 --> 01:13:18,520
ship. So what did you do
to lose it? Uh? Depression?

1023
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:23,800
Depression hit really hard. Then I
just started going, you're going bald?

1024
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:29,359
You got fat? I fat was
bald fat bald? Fuck yes? And

1025
01:13:29,399 --> 01:13:32,239
then you and you got depressed and
that changed your life. Most people that

1026
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,319
most people get to that point.
I knew I was gonna get picked on.

1027
01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:39,399
They're bald, they're ready to go
off the one on four Bridge.

1028
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,520
No, I think you're a hero
to me. You'd be very honest.

1029
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,079
But no. So I got in
the best shape of my life, maybe

1030
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:48,079
like eight nine years ago. I
got down to like two hundred pounds nice.

1031
01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:51,960
And then I would say within the
last three years, I just started

1032
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,359
focusing more on myself with the BIZZI
line, my hairline, everything else.

1033
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,159
It helps, you know, I
have this beautiful girlfriend. Now that's just

1034
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,880
it. All pay it off,
all paid off. I gave up.

1035
01:14:01,239 --> 01:14:05,760
Yeah, fuck it. Yeah,
Marianne really got herself reprised, didn't she

1036
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:11,359
She did. She's like reaching into
the cracker box, that's for sure.

1037
01:14:12,399 --> 01:14:15,960
No, I I think that's pretty
impressive that you were. You really depressed.

1038
01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:18,720
Oh yeah, I openly admitted it. You know a lot of my

1039
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,560
friends didn't know what it was.
You know, I struggled it for years.

1040
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,560
It took a while to be up
front and honestly, you get help.

1041
01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:29,279
I did. I I saw therapist. Good. I did not say

1042
01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:32,000
who really saved you? Though,
don't fucking take credit over here. No,

1043
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,680
I wasn't. Yeah, my dog, I'm telling you I wanted to

1044
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:41,960
dog. Dog helped me out.
Yeah yeah, what kind of dog.

1045
01:14:42,119 --> 01:14:51,800
He's a border Yeah yeah yeah,
but he's he's like, yeah, nothing

1046
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,199
that would be you know, you
didn't have the same effected, you know,

1047
01:14:55,319 --> 01:14:58,319
you know, just being what you
know, maybe I could have met

1048
01:14:58,359 --> 01:15:01,159
the dog if I was in the
fire. Yes, Look, it don't

1049
01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:08,039
start with the So we had the
buildo party and I thought, what build

1050
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:10,960
up? No, I know,
because I know what the you know,

1051
01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:14,359
right, Yeah, it was a
sex toy party. We brought it up

1052
01:15:14,399 --> 01:15:16,880
because there was We didn't I didn't
know these things parties in Rochester, not

1053
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,960
Diddy parties. It wasn't Diddy party
they have. No, It's like they

1054
01:15:21,039 --> 01:15:27,359
used to have something they called way
way back in the olden days. No,

1055
01:15:28,079 --> 01:15:30,359
they probably did. They still probably
have those, but this they had.

1056
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:35,239
They had tupperware parties where ladies would
get together and buy tupperware that you

1057
01:15:35,239 --> 01:15:40,479
could and it was like a salesperson, so one woman would sell it and

1058
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,319
then all these other ladies would come
over. They drink wine, they get

1059
01:15:43,359 --> 01:15:45,399
a little buzz, and then they'd
buy tupperware. Well it's the same thing,

1060
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,039
but this sex toys and I didn't
think it was real. So we

1061
01:15:48,039 --> 01:15:50,279
looked it up. We called a
woman. We said we want to have

1062
01:15:50,319 --> 01:15:54,119
a party. She said okay.
Laura said we could do it at her

1063
01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:57,359
house. So we did it.
Literally all happened within thirty minutes. Yeah,

1064
01:15:57,319 --> 01:16:00,960
you guys bought them in person or
you guys just y, Yeah,

1065
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:05,319
you can know the store was the
store comes to you. She comes in

1066
01:16:05,399 --> 01:16:10,279
and shows you all the stuff.
Yep, your dad got to taste different

1067
01:16:10,279 --> 01:16:14,800
flavored blubs. Yeah, you tasted
it. Well, not on my finger.

1068
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,840
They put it on my finger and
then I tasted it. I have

1069
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:20,239
I'm doing a job here, son. You want me to keep paying for

1070
01:16:20,279 --> 01:16:25,000
stuffing? Yeah, you got paid
to taste that. I didn't get paid.

1071
01:16:25,039 --> 01:16:30,800
But I have humiliation. He's been
doing that for thirty years. You

1072
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,399
guys, we'll just give up workout. I'm still bad. I didn't get

1073
01:16:34,399 --> 01:16:38,439
to meet the dog, and you
get that dog. We could have touched

1074
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:43,640
my depression together. I think we
need to do a whole nother pool party

1075
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,279
one. Oh. She wants to
do a pool part with everyone that comes

1076
01:16:46,359 --> 01:16:49,000
on the pod, but somehow I
will not be invited to it. Well,

1077
01:16:49,239 --> 01:16:51,199
I will invite you to that.
We know what we'll do that.

1078
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:55,600
Let's find a date in August.
Can we do that. We'll find a

1079
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,600
date in August. And I'm not
a big fan of taking all the equipment

1080
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,800
out, but I will do it
for that. We don't even have to

1081
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,359
do that, she did. No, I like to do the pod,

1082
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,960
doing the pod there, doing the
pod there, and then hang out and

1083
01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:10,359
party and that's it. Maybe we
do it like on a Saturday. We

1084
01:17:10,399 --> 01:17:14,479
can, and then we can run
an episode. We have everyone got it?

1085
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,279
That's what I like. We do
a little batch recording and get some

1086
01:17:16,279 --> 01:17:20,920
stuff done. That sounds better than
that sounds better? Do it August first,

1087
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:26,880
because it's a National girlfriend Day?
National girlfriend What are you trying to

1088
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,159
do? It could be like a
cute little thing. But if you guys

1089
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:32,560
want to have another didty party,
go ahead. I don't want to have

1090
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:40,600
another. Okay, So happy with
how the party turned out. How about

1091
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,079
this kid? I can't get it. My god, he's a chip off

1092
01:17:44,119 --> 01:17:48,520
the old bar holy ship. Yeah. I don't have a girlfriend though,

1093
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,640
so I can't go. We're not
sure about that. If it's at her

1094
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:56,640
house, it's for them. But
you guys, got I gotcha? Yes,

1095
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,279
I see what you're saying. What
if we put like three random girls

1096
01:17:59,279 --> 01:18:01,720
behind something and then you can ask
them a thousand questions? Oh and then

1097
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:12,039
I have to go. Oh nowadays
it's it's twenty one. Yes, it's

1098
01:18:12,079 --> 01:18:18,199
on YouTube and it's a different naked
dating. Oh god, they had a

1099
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:23,359
show where you stood behind the screen. Did you watch it on HBO Max?

1100
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:30,000
No? Do you watch the game? They're completely naked and they reveal

1101
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,079
starting at your feet and the wall
goes up, goes up, goes up

1102
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:39,159
and it's you standing there with the
host your clothes, but everybody who's a

1103
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:43,359
potential date is naked. And you
get to the side and are they all

1104
01:18:43,399 --> 01:18:47,720
good looking people or no? But
you get to see the body. The

1105
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:51,720
last thing you see is the face. It's for so it would be literally

1106
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:57,479
me, you four all behind a
panel and it goes up and then like

1107
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:03,800
you eliminate before you would even see
the deck, like you're you eliminate one.

1108
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:10,479
Then it keeps going all mark.
It's called I think it's called naked

1109
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,800
dating, naked naked dating, or
naked attraction, naked attraction, something like,

1110
01:19:15,399 --> 01:19:18,279
Yes, it's a British show.
I hate British. But then so

1111
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:25,079
say I choose you in the end, then for me to make I get

1112
01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:29,920
naked, she gets meat naked for
the first time. Check that out,

1113
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,760
Yes you will, And I would
like to review back in the seventies and

1114
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,880
I had something like that and a
serial killer was on there and the lady

1115
01:19:36,119 --> 01:19:40,760
who like got with the guy.
There's two guys that go behind them back

1116
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,720
in the seventies and just you don't
see him until the end. They both

1117
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,359
come out and they talk a little
bit more and then they choose who.

1118
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,039
She chose the serial Killer, which
she didn't know at the time, and

1119
01:19:49,119 --> 01:19:54,840
he was may have killed like three
people but in total killed like like a

1120
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,119
hundred something like that. This is
real. This is legit and you can

1121
01:19:58,119 --> 01:20:00,159
look it up. It's called the
Dating. Is that Ted Bundy or something

1122
01:20:00,199 --> 01:20:05,279
like? No, I don't know
this, yeah, I think listen and

1123
01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:09,600
listen. Yeah, So she did
it. She went out, she called

1124
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,680
him, talked to him, but
she called the show back and said,

1125
01:20:13,039 --> 01:20:15,279
I don't like this guy. He's
giving me a weird vibe. He's kind

1126
01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:18,000
of creepy. So he so the
show called her, I mean show called

1127
01:20:18,039 --> 01:20:23,359
the serial killer and said, hey, she's not gonna be able to make

1128
01:20:23,399 --> 01:20:27,560
it. She's finishing some stuff up. I'm sorry, and he was like

1129
01:20:28,119 --> 01:20:30,279
whatever, right, and he tried
that night. He was going to killer.

1130
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,680
Was the goal to kill that lady? Wow? Rodney Alla, Yes,

1131
01:20:35,039 --> 01:20:39,880
Rodney Alla. Look at he was
in jail. He recently died like

1132
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:45,079
this this decade like after I think
twenty sixteen, twenty fucked up spent.

1133
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,600
It was crazy because I know they
were teaching that in history class. Now

1134
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:56,479
maybe maybe maybe teacher teacher, all
right, we will uh, we'll take

1135
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,000
a moment. Laura is an organizer. I don't know if you know that.

1136
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:03,039
I do know that, yes,
But I want to know about asking

1137
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:06,840
people to part with things? How
ugly has it gotten? Have you had

1138
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:11,640
to give up on a gig because
they wouldn't listen? All these things?

1139
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,279
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1168
01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:45,439
I'm so fair. I just st
my hands out of town earlier last

1169
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:49,319
night. Yes, and so what's
early for you? Well, usually I

1170
01:23:49,399 --> 01:23:54,520
go to about about ten. Okay, it was like six thirty seven.

1171
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,800
Oh, yeah, that is that's
early. Yeah. I think seven fifty

1172
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,039
nine has been the earliest for me. So I was up. Yeah,

1173
01:24:00,079 --> 01:24:02,600
So then I saw it. I
saw it, say, I might got

1174
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,720
the eye. I got my iPad
and I got what I got the state

1175
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:10,560
the iPad And yeah, I love
it. I love it. That's very

1176
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,560
good. Uh mearon Morris and we're
not sure what's there. James has been

1177
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,760
enlightening us with a serial killer stories
back in depth? Huh, I go

1178
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:24,479
back in depth with what about the
Yeah, go ahead real quick? Okay,

1179
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:29,439
So the dating game and dating game
one? So the guy what was

1180
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,680
his name again? Rodney el Kara, So Rodney, I'm not gonna butcher

1181
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:41,119
his name, but he won't get
mad. He butchered the bitches. So

1182
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:45,279
he died in two. I think
he died in twenty twenty two. Butchered

1183
01:24:45,319 --> 01:24:49,760
the bites. He Rodney died in
twenty twenty two, twenty one, I

1184
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,920
think, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was I think he might have

1185
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,319
been in his eighties, sixties something
like that. Had to have been in

1186
01:24:55,319 --> 01:24:59,359
his eighties or seven or whatever.
He was old. So he was in

1187
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,560
jail. He was facing twenty five
to life for what he did. It

1188
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,680
was confirmed seven, but now that
it's still being investigated, it's supposed to

1189
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:12,039
be one hundred, one hundred and
ten. How about you are a relative

1190
01:25:12,079 --> 01:25:16,680
of one of those people and you
never everybody talk to us about wanting closure,

1191
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,880
right knowing what had happened. What
happened? We know obviously they were

1192
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,199
murdered or did they just disappear?
Did he kidnap them? And so this

1193
01:25:25,279 --> 01:25:30,880
is yeah, he got battery,
kidnapping, massmars. So people just disappeared.

1194
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,000
So this is what happened. To
say, first murder was he was

1195
01:25:33,039 --> 01:25:36,640
aiming for two girls, and so
this girl was spending the night at her

1196
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,560
friend's house and asked, can I
take my bike back to my house and

1197
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,960
get something? So she said sure, and the man offered her for like

1198
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,119
a ride. And at this time
I think he might have been an aspiring

1199
01:25:47,119 --> 01:25:50,159
actor, but he was a charming
man. Yeah, so they usually are,

1200
01:25:50,319 --> 01:25:56,039
yeah, sociopaths. So, and
I haven't heard this story in a

1201
01:25:56,039 --> 01:25:58,960
while, so I'm right, but
I might be off on some things.

1202
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,399
But he took her back to the
apart apartment and he either killed this girl

1203
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:08,880
or didn't, and I'm pretty sure
he did. But so he takes her

1204
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:14,800
back and he brings her up to
the apartment and the bike's outside. So

1205
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,319
if everybody's wondering where the bike is, like or where she's at, it's

1206
01:26:17,319 --> 01:26:21,359
where the bike is. So she
calls. When the girl doesn't show back

1207
01:26:21,399 --> 01:26:25,319
up at her friend's house, the
friend calls goes. Well, first of

1208
01:26:25,319 --> 01:26:28,399
all, she goes to her parents. The parents call the police. The

1209
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,399
police track. I don't know how
they did, but they got to the

1210
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,439
apartment and the girl is now in
the shower with the man, and the

1211
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:44,359
man is trying to rape the girl
and she's screaming, and he puts her

1212
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,159
like under something, and he when
the police are outside, he looks out

1213
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:51,239
and his hair's not wet. He
acts like he was taking I think he

1214
01:26:51,319 --> 01:26:55,039
was just acting like he was taking
the shower. He's looking out the window,

1215
01:26:55,079 --> 01:26:57,760
and the police realize his hair's not
wet, but the rest of his

1216
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,560
body's wet, so they know that
he was lying. And when it comes

1217
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,960
back out, there's blood kind of
you know, up to here. So

1218
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:10,000
he's he was beating her up,
trying to make her shut up, and

1219
01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:15,960
I'm pretty sure he killed the girl. And then you know, they arrest

1220
01:27:16,039 --> 01:27:19,479
him. I don't think they actually, I don't think they called him.

1221
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:24,720
I think he got out the back
drove off. That was that. Then

1222
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,520
he moved across the country, changed
his whole identity, changed his name,

1223
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:33,680
changed his whole backstory. And it's
easier to do back then. What well,

1224
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:39,359
I'm trying to think, like you
have kids, and you guys,

1225
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:45,800
your your brother Jordan, and Jordan
was always like a guy who is right

1226
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,720
on the edge, like a little
kid. He was everything. I had

1227
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:53,600
the worst day ever, but that
I once was with them alone and the

1228
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,800
guy, the older guys are sixteen
months apart, were at the Seneca Park

1229
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:01,479
zoo. They have this iceberg climbing
structure. Jordan's on that. I'm trying

1230
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,000
to get them out. We're trying
to leave and it's like hurting cats and

1231
01:28:05,159 --> 01:28:09,840
Jackson decides to run into the tunnel
where you could poke your head up like

1232
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,520
a gopher. So now I got
to go get him. I'm trying to

1233
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,880
drag him out of there, but
I got the other guy. So a

1234
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,079
woman I worked with at the radio
station, she worked in the traffic department,

1235
01:28:18,359 --> 01:28:25,159
said I'll watch Jordan. I get
maybe twenty five feet away from the

1236
01:28:25,159 --> 01:28:28,600
climbing structure and I hear, hey, lady, get away from me.

1237
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,000
You're scaring me, this like deep
voice from a four year old, and

1238
01:28:32,039 --> 01:28:35,039
I got so now you're running back, like you know, so I'm going

1239
01:28:35,079 --> 01:28:39,880
you always told your kids to beware
of strangers, to be But what were

1240
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:44,439
we doing in like the seventies,
because that's when like this shit went on

1241
01:28:45,159 --> 01:28:48,880
for the most part. Like I'm
Steven Stainer was kidnapped then, and like

1242
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:54,000
all you heard all the like that
alphabet killer times around, Yeah, the

1243
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:58,720
alphabet killer. You had what's his
name? Shawcross, Like it's all like

1244
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,800
seventies, eighties, And I go
now I feel like there's so many cameras

1245
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:08,239
everywhere. We would see something.
I'm always shocked, Like when remember I

1246
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:11,199
don't know how many years ago was
but the guy who was holding the girls

1247
01:29:11,239 --> 01:29:14,239
in the basement in Cleveland, oh
yeah, like in the dungeon. I

1248
01:29:14,279 --> 01:29:17,199
was like, how the fuck did
that happen? How did nobody see anything?

1249
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,520
And now we've got even more cameras, like the ring doorbell is everywhere,

1250
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,520
and so I go, these psychos
got to find a new right.

1251
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,560
Basically, you can't keep people in
your in your basement anymore. I don't

1252
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:31,840
think you can. I don't think
you can do that. I don't think

1253
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:36,159
I just you know, it's your
cell phone tracks everywhere you Yes, you're

1254
01:29:36,199 --> 01:29:42,680
pinging and dinging, and right after
you're right. So I already said what

1255
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,000
like they already know. I didn't
say this while we were taking the break

1256
01:29:45,239 --> 01:29:47,960
that he went on the dating show. I already know about this, So

1257
01:29:48,079 --> 01:29:50,920
before or after what I'm about to
say, he went on the dating show.

1258
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,359
So he moved across the state.
It was during the summer, so

1259
01:29:55,399 --> 01:29:59,800
he took a camp counseling job and
he was he was very good. Everybody

1260
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:03,520
liked him. He was not creepy
like they're usually charming charming guys changed his

1261
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,640
act. He may have literally,
wasn't that the whole thing with a Dexter

1262
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:12,399
or what's that other show he may
have been, Yeah, but he was

1263
01:30:12,399 --> 01:30:15,960
a doctor right and he killed the
back What about Barry where he's trying to

1264
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,600
be an actor and it's the Fonds
is in it and he's like his his

1265
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:24,520
acting coach and it's the guy from
Saturday Night Live and he kills people,

1266
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:29,119
but he's charming and nice. And
he may have literally from what I was

1267
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:32,319
learning, it sounds like he was
literally trying to change his life and not

1268
01:30:32,359 --> 01:30:36,039
be crazy anymore and just be a
normal person. But something probably ticked him

1269
01:30:36,039 --> 01:30:39,479
off. Maybe he was trying to, you know, get with somebody and

1270
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,039
you know, didn't go the right
way with another camp counselor, but something

1271
01:30:43,079 --> 01:30:46,720
ticked him off. Well, I'm
creepy and I'm not gonna kill anybody or

1272
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:51,039
anything like that. So the actually
a point actually goes right, is absolutely

1273
01:30:51,079 --> 01:30:59,720
right that you're not helping m I'm
not charming. I'm the one that you

1274
01:31:00,119 --> 01:31:06,720
look like you own a white van
though he three bTB on the side.

1275
01:31:11,239 --> 01:31:15,800
So at one point there's there's wanted
posters, and I guess it makes its

1276
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,199
way to him to where he's at, and kids see it and they report

1277
01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:21,720
it to whatever the higher up is
when it comes to being a camp counselor,

1278
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:28,079
and as soon as he hears about
it, he leaves, moves again,

1279
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,640
changes his identity again, and they
never catch him. So no,

1280
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,840
he'll catch them, what do you
mean? I mean, but they weren't

1281
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:39,640
catching him, so I think he
may have gotten arrested but got away again.

1282
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:45,840
Somehow. He got away maybe for
battery or harassment. And I think

1283
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,079
his first ever crime this is going
back. A girl rejected him in a

1284
01:31:49,119 --> 01:31:55,560
bar and he beat her with a
beer bottle and stabbed her. Survived,

1285
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,640
So he got arrested for assault.
That was his first ever charge. So

1286
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:02,479
he's always been He never got off
parole. Whenever he violated it, he

1287
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,479
went on the run again. So
he's always been on the run forever,

1288
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,720
forever and ever. When he was
on that show, he was on the

1289
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:13,880
run. So whatever. So he
goes on, he kills more people and

1290
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,399
then I guess at one of the
crime scenes he gets arrested and he went

1291
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,680
back to the crime scene. Well, Shawcross used to do that too,

1292
01:32:20,319 --> 01:32:25,520
so he was I guess he was
bringing him back something. We can probably

1293
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:30,640
do this another day or talk about
it whatever. But yeah, and then

1294
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,800
he got arrested for for a confirmed
seven people and a lot of them were

1295
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:40,439
young girls and some of them.
No, no, no, this guy

1296
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,279
was No. I think he might
have been from the name. He could

1297
01:32:44,319 --> 01:32:48,399
have been Latino, because it's usually
white guys for the most part, right,

1298
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:54,319
well, except for what was his
name? There's somebody who was not.

1299
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,560
Yeah, he had he was supported
the devil like crazy. You know

1300
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:02,319
what I'm talking about, right,
are looking at me? No? I

1301
01:33:02,359 --> 01:33:05,720
mean he was. He's a white
guy from San Antonio Tech. Yeah.

1302
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:10,359
Yeah, it's usually a white guy. It's usually a white guy. Think

1303
01:33:10,399 --> 01:33:15,079
that's that. And when you're when
you're charming and somewhat decent looking and clean

1304
01:33:15,159 --> 01:33:19,239
cut, Ramirez, people give you
the uh richind Ramirez people give you the

1305
01:33:19,239 --> 01:33:23,520
benefit of the doubt, that's right. They give you the benefit of do

1306
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,520
you fit in? Everything's cool?
Ah, this guy, Hey, listen,

1307
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,119
he gets I had a bag,
drank a little too much last night.

1308
01:33:30,119 --> 01:33:30,760
We gave them a bit of it, right, and that's what.

1309
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:35,319
Yeah. So now that it's still
being investigated and people are going in now

1310
01:33:35,359 --> 01:33:40,800
it's like for us, legally it's
a confirmed seven, but really it's a

1311
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:45,439
confirmed yeah except seven. You're like, you know, I just said on

1312
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:50,279
his Wikipedia page eight confirmed up to
one and thirty. Geez, god damn

1313
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:54,319
imagine that was like your neighbor to
go and he would be the same thing

1314
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:58,119
anytime, anything, like great guy
like I I went over, I had

1315
01:33:58,159 --> 01:34:00,840
a cup of sugar. I didn't
once I went and I bacon cookies,

1316
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,600
used to exchange Christmas gifts. He
was wonderful kid. This kid I went

1317
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,800
to that grew up with and I
came out with. He was a serial

1318
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:14,960
killer and or guy for real?
You're really yes? Now almost homeless people?

1319
01:34:15,239 --> 01:34:18,439
Yeah? Wow yeah, because the
who's gonna track him? Right?

1320
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,800
Yeah? Yeah, I knew what
well. I grew up in a really

1321
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:27,760
small town where a brother killed his
sister. She was in my class and

1322
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,880
he was fifteen. Took the car
out for a ride and she goes,

1323
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,520
I'm gonna tell mom and dad,
and he took a knife and stabbed her

1324
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:36,119
over a hunter. That must have
been a huge story, huge story.

1325
01:34:36,119 --> 01:34:40,079
And he wound up living here after
he got out and his juvenile record was

1326
01:34:40,119 --> 01:34:42,600
sealed and all this stuff, and
my father's going, oh, you have

1327
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,159
it sealed. Can imagine if some
girl married. He was kind of like

1328
01:34:46,079 --> 01:34:50,760
and I think Jaron rip did know
the guy I was talking about. I

1329
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:54,399
don't know if Jack Ripper did this, but another serial killer. He would

1330
01:34:54,439 --> 01:35:00,680
strangle them and then yeah, men
killed him. Yeah with an that's loveing.

1331
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,199
I'm really glad that you're using your
time so these days such a good

1332
01:35:03,279 --> 01:35:08,439
stuff. It's a what's the oldest
thing you own? What's the oldest thing

1333
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,279
you own? This thing I own? Yes, No, you didn't take

1334
01:35:11,279 --> 01:35:15,039
it too far. What we're gonna
say. He would wait till so he'd

1335
01:35:15,039 --> 01:35:18,439
strangle them and they'd pass out.
Then he'd rape them, and then when

1336
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:24,159
they gained consciousness is when he would
kill them with a knife. Okay,

1337
01:35:25,079 --> 01:35:28,119
I don't like you learning these things. What's the oldest thing you own?

1338
01:35:28,319 --> 01:35:33,520
I have a stuffed animal dinosaur with
sunglasses and the guitar and a leather jacket.

1339
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,680
How old I got him? I
was fifteen? Okay, all right?

1340
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:41,359
Because somebody was telling me they have
like, uh, Super Super Bowl

1341
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:46,000
replica tickets from nineteen eighty six.
I think the Giants won that one.

1342
01:35:46,199 --> 01:35:48,479
I think it was one of the
giants one. Yeah, it was yeah,

1343
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,079
And I was thinking, and that
made me think of you, because

1344
01:35:51,119 --> 01:35:56,560
I go, how much when you're
helping people organize or clean out, how

1345
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,760
much shit do you come across that
people go, oh, no, I

1346
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:09,239
want to keep that wa oj played
for them, moms, for the giants,

1347
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,960
I mean all the time. Today
I had someone who didn't want to

1348
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:17,119
get rid of a pencil keeper from
their childhood, and so what do you

1349
01:36:17,159 --> 01:36:26,079
say? Why? That one was
simple? But like a lot of people

1350
01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:33,039
just hold on to sentimental items,
which I understand, but yes, or

1351
01:36:33,119 --> 01:36:39,520
about like a wedding dress, get
the fuck get it? Okay, So

1352
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,800
a lot of women will hold on
to it and give it to their kids

1353
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:48,880
because daughters they'll have like some patches
sewn into like their daughter's wedding dresses or

1354
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:56,199
whatever. Okay, But then there's
just so many other things that people hold

1355
01:36:56,239 --> 01:37:03,640
onto, and they're stupid old magazines, old newspapers. It's it's the papers

1356
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:10,199
that people hold onto that kill me, Like, you don't need this file

1357
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,720
from your job when you were twenty
years old, Like do you ever get

1358
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,199
in arguments with them? Have you
left a job because people wouldn't like listen

1359
01:37:17,239 --> 01:37:25,000
to you or take your I so
is, if you're not willing to get

1360
01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:30,359
rid of stuff, you're wasting my
time and your money. Because I want

1361
01:37:30,399 --> 01:37:32,279
to make an improvement in your life. I want to help you get rid

1362
01:37:32,319 --> 01:37:36,760
of all this shit that you have
lying around, or get your home ready

1363
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:43,399
to sell or whatever. But like, if you're not willing to work with

1364
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,039
me, then it's pointless and I
won't go back to those times. How

1365
01:37:46,119 --> 01:37:50,600
was Joe's house when you went there? He owns nothing, nothing, nothing

1366
01:37:53,239 --> 01:37:58,560
minimal. Really, Yeah, you
didn't hold onto anything sentimental. I think

1367
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:03,079
I have one container of sentimental stuff. But I do have a teddy bear

1368
01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:08,439
that sits on my on my dresser
that I got when I was two weeks

1369
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:12,640
old. So yeah, yeah that's
true. Well this thing I own is

1370
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,680
I have my grandmother's class ring and
I wear it all the time. Yeah,

1371
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,680
but that's nice. Yeah, yeah, I own absolutely nothing. Yeah

1372
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:24,680
I don't think I really the stuffed
animal. But that's it. But he's

1373
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:29,880
just saying, like, yes,
you do a retro red wing satin jacket

1374
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:31,399
that's been around. I just think
it would be really hard when you're cleaning

1375
01:38:31,399 --> 01:38:34,880
people's houses out, like some of
them have to almost go behind their back

1376
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:39,359
with another relative to throw shit out. Well, and it's a lot of

1377
01:38:39,399 --> 01:38:43,239
times when I'm working with elderly clients, like it is so much hand holding.

1378
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:45,479
And you know, even one of
the clients right now that I'm working

1379
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:49,600
with, she is I also have
like an antique dealer that I work with

1380
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:54,680
that is selling items for this client. And the other day she was like,

1381
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,560
oh, I actually want one of
these statues that she had told me

1382
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,960
to sell. And I was like, are you sure you want that back?

1383
01:39:00,119 --> 01:39:02,600
Like we can easily sell it,
like you think it will make money?

1384
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,960
And I was like, yes,
it will. I mean they're gorgeous

1385
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:10,520
wooden, handcarved statues. It's like, okay, well then sell it.

1386
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,920
It's like why would you why do
you need to keep holding on to stop?

1387
01:39:14,039 --> 01:39:18,359
But you know what she finds mark, She finds colostomy bags, the

1388
01:39:18,399 --> 01:39:27,760
sex toys. Imagine that like clean
and your mom, you're gonna find all

1389
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:33,319
that stuff. I didn't know the
ben wabbles what Yeah, I was doing

1390
01:39:33,359 --> 01:39:45,279
someone's bathroom with them, Like what
and she like handed them to me and

1391
01:39:45,319 --> 01:39:47,359
she's like, can you put these
in my night standing in my nightstand,

1392
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:51,239
and I was like, okay,
what are they? You don't know?

1393
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:58,560
Oh, this is amazing. Say
I didn't know either. Right now,

1394
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:04,439
you have no clue after hearing what's
girlfriend said on the on the podcast,

1395
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:09,439
there's nothing worse. So they are
balls? What she asked them? Did

1396
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:18,159
you say ben wobbles, balls,
w a h balls? All right,

1397
01:40:18,279 --> 01:40:24,560
explain what ben wall balls are?
Guys, female anatomy lesson. You put

1398
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:28,399
them up your vagina? Oh oh, I thought there was somewhere else too.

1399
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,560
Well you can, well no,
but this is it's supposed to.

1400
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:36,960
And then you hold them in and
it's like a kegel exercise. It's supposed

1401
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:43,880
to strengthen your public floor. That's
what they're for. Yes, I thought

1402
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,000
people stuck them up there, but
they probably do. That's anal robe.

1403
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,960
I thought they did. I thought, and they get bigger, like they

1404
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,920
start out small and they get bigger
and bigger and bigger. That would be

1405
01:40:53,960 --> 01:41:01,359
like a line talking about that,
like tight and it's like you do oh

1406
01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:08,079
clueless thirteen year old all right,
okay, okay, all right, girls,

1407
01:41:08,159 --> 01:41:10,840
yeah, okay, we don't.
I don't know anything about girls.

1408
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:15,119
I thought it was something you put
up your butt too. Maybe it is.

1409
01:41:15,319 --> 01:41:17,720
I don't know, you put them
up there? Yes, I'm sure

1410
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,840
if you put anything up your butt, you're supposed to have it like have

1411
01:41:23,119 --> 01:41:27,680
a hold or else, ye swallow
it up. Oh yeah, well that's

1412
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:31,239
always my favorite when I've talked to
uh radiologists, yeah, who have had

1413
01:41:31,279 --> 01:41:35,800
to take X rays. There was
somebody in Rochester that had a light bulb

1414
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:41,800
to say that a light bulb up
their butt. I don't know, I

1415
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:44,119
don't know, And I would be
like, how do you was it a

1416
01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:48,239
flood, Well, that would be
a thicker glass that it wouldn't be afraid

1417
01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:54,840
of breaking. But think about if
that broke and it perforated your sphincter or

1418
01:41:54,840 --> 01:42:00,279
whatever. In trouble. Yeah,
seen a little video on the internet probably

1419
01:42:00,279 --> 01:42:05,039
floating around there exactly what you just
said. What a light bulb? One

1420
01:42:05,079 --> 01:42:11,199
man, one jar, one man, one jar on man? Okay,

1421
01:42:11,239 --> 01:42:13,960
so that's what it sounds like.
It's putting the light bulb, but it's

1422
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:18,640
a pickle jar and it breaks and
in the video he's picking glass out of

1423
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:24,560
his butt and it's bleeding. I
yeah, yeah, you're this is on

1424
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:30,239
the This is on the internet,
on platform, go on Twitter, read

1425
01:42:30,279 --> 01:42:32,880
it, Jamison how old, are
you? I'm fourteen. I haven't seen

1426
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:38,560
it though, I've just read articles
and used to say it is a video.

1427
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:43,800
Oh guys like a finger something up
their butt? Yeah, she did

1428
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:49,840
say that true? Is that true? No, I have to say that.

1429
01:42:50,319 --> 01:42:53,439
I've let me put you let me
put it this way. I had

1430
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:58,720
I had issues this for the like
the last six months, and I couldn't

1431
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:03,119
understand how any but he could,
ye could possibly I could, so I'd

1432
01:43:03,119 --> 01:43:10,439
be the worst time. I'd be
the worst giguy ever. Doctors have to

1433
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:15,520
check things, check your prostly,
what do you mean, like you die?

1434
01:43:16,199 --> 01:43:18,359
No, No, no, they
no, they got it. They

1435
01:43:18,359 --> 01:43:21,880
gotta they gotta check these things.
They have to check things. This is

1436
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:26,960
gonna be great, your mom,
it's gonna be so so happy. Oh

1437
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,680
boy, you're never coming back again. You're never gonna be allowed back.

1438
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:34,079
That's gonna be the end of that
buildo per No, don't don't know.

1439
01:43:34,359 --> 01:43:38,359
No, no, now, a
lot of trouble, thanks a lot,

1440
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:42,319
Laura. That'll go over well.
I can see I'm being good. I'm

1441
01:43:42,319 --> 01:43:44,760
not being the bad one. No, you never are. No, I

1442
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,520
mean good. I don't want to
piss. I don't want to piss his

1443
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:53,560
mother all right. For uh Mark, who didn't know what ben Wa balls

1444
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,840
are but doesn't know I've seen it
two weeks. Oh wait, unless they

1445
01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:01,399
come in whatever, We're gonna make
something happen next week, guys, unless

1446
01:44:01,399 --> 01:44:09,079
I'm not invited. Yeah down invitement
places for Joe who's got a tattoo head

1447
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:14,640
and it looks great. Teeth look
great, I love it. Give the

1448
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,840
glow up and Laura, who didn't
even have to help him organize. I'm

1449
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,840
Bill Brand, will see you tomorrow