WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:07.599 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagan zale Sound Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:13.560 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services. It's sure your most Prized Possessions, 3 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:18.679 kt z R, TWU SA and iHeartRadio Statia. Hey, good afternoon, 4 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:21.800 everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 5 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:26.440 I'm Steve Riverta, He's Jagan Zawas got our guy Henry in today. Welcome 6 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:30.640 to Monday. I'm not sure if you hear the chimes, but we do. 7 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.320 Do you hear the chimes? Oh? Yeah, that's weird again. 8 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:37.039 Yeah, I'm not sure why. Yeah right, yeah, church is in 9 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:41.200 service. If you do hear it. It's the gospel of Jay and Steve. 10 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.600 I don't know what that is. I don't either. It goes away 11 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.399 after well, yeah, oh it's weird. Okay, Okay, that's fine. 12 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:50.600 Hey it's Monday, man, it's Monday. We have a decent show 13 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:55.119 for you. I say that with pool confidence. It's a really good show 14 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:57.240 though, I mean, you know, we got who do we have? 15 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:00.920 Oh? I forgot to write him down Schmid at four seventeen, Jeff Hammers. 16 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:03.159 We're gonna try and keep him from cussing in the air. Yeah. 17 00:01:03.239 --> 00:01:06.560 Yeah. And then we have a friend of mine for a long time friend 18 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:11.840 of mine, mister Dan right really from the Washington Beat for Sports Illustrated. 19 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.560 Yep, uh, he mistook me for another Steve Ever on a Twitter feedback 20 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:18.920 two weeks ago. I had to clarify who I was and he saw, 21 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.439 Yeah, that's right. So he'll be on talking about all things jet fish 22 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:26.760 and how life is up there in Seattle. Yeah, you know, yeah, 23 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.519 we'll just see and the Pac twelve you got to see what the expectations 24 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.519 are for you know, really all the Pack twelve schools going over to the 25 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:40.159 Big ten because you know, you don't hear much from r c LA because 26 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.879 they have been very good, you know us. He thinks it's going to 27 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:48.040 be good. Oregon thinks and they've got a chance to win the league Washington, 28 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:51.319 you know, with the new coach and and uh and what you know, 29 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:53.359 some expectations might be there. Yeah, so that'd be fun. Good 30 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.640 dude, sarcastic dude. So he'll fit right in. Oh boy, perfect. 31 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.719 I already like him, dude, I already like it's a good dude. 32 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.000 I haven't seen him in a while, so that'll be fun weekend stuff. 33 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:07.920 I know you guys bet on the w n B A. You can't 34 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.360 believe this, but a lot of people I talked to on Saturday or bet 35 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:15.360 on that game for whatever reason. I said, what been on a w 36 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.360 n B A USA game? I'm thinking, what twenty two? What are 37 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:22.280 you watching again? I once I knew somebody who wants bet on women's Olympic 38 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.000 hockey. Well that's what people have bet on just about anything. But they're 39 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:27.439 watching it. I mean, yeah, packed house, so it's sixteen and 40 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.560 changed, right. A friend of mine, friend of mine went through the 41 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:31.639 game. She said it was packed, and it was sold out and it 42 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:36.960 was fun. Pit Bulls thirsty entertainment. Oh that that's why. Okay, 43 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:39.680 they were making fun of pit Bull all morning on Dan Patrick? Well, 44 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:45.039 why that he did the game? Seen him a concert? It just it 45 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:50.680 just it's just say, didn't makes sense just saying that he's not he sold 46 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.680 out? Well, yeah, I guess you know. Have you seen him 47 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.759 in concert? No, it's the most fantastic conser I've ever seen. Yeah, 48 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:01.120 it's it's like Colly crap Is aerobics with hot chicks. Then you'd have 49 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.039 been offended. And then at then this morning because they were making fun of 50 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.639 him and that he's not he's not an A list anymore, you kid, 51 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:12.560 which you do not know because they do not know. I do not know. 52 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:14.919 I you know, I like I look. I like some of his 53 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:16.719 stuff. You know, we've had some of his stuff is out out music 54 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:20.879 here in our on our show before. They wouldn't let him do that anymore. 55 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.120 So no, I've you know, there's a few of his songs that 56 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:27.159 I like, but I look, I I probably wouldn't ever go to a 57 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:30.479 concert he is. I don't dislike him. He's gonna have another one in 58 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.439 September October. I'm going to that. I don't dislike him. I just 59 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:38.680 he's just there for Meffy was having a concert in Christina. Aguilera was showing 60 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:43.840 up because you do that song with him. I'm in right, but I 61 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.360 get it, Yeah, I get it. Okay, So so okay. 62 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:50.719 So that was this weekend. A lot of baseball obviously returned again, So 63 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.479 that was fun. Uh and uh, NBA would not NBA just trades And 64 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:57.840 did you see that Homer the show? Hey, yesday four hundred thousands people, 65 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:00.759 four hundred and seventy three, and it was not even the hardest hitting 66 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.800 ball yesterday. Yeah, I was somebody else hitd like almost five hundred. 67 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:08.840 I was watching the game and I was like, oh my god, you 68 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:11.919 know I mean he I mean basically, I mean he hit it underneath the 69 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.800 roof, but it basically went out of the park because it took one bounce 70 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:20.600 and went out into the outfield plaza beyond the beyond the outside of the stadium. 71 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:23.879 This is the only thing I got from that home run because after the 72 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:27.720 game, ESPN talked to him, you know, within the shortporter, right. 73 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.079 But but every time he must know English, because you knew what the 74 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:34.720 question was. Every time he was shaking this right and then going English, 75 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:38.639 I heard I've heard him speak a little bit okay, So he was nodding, 76 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.000 and every time the question was being asked, like he understood. They 77 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:43.600 still went to the interpreter and went back and forth. But it was like, 78 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.680 dude, I don't need you. I can say I think I think 79 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:50.959 he's not comfortable. That makes sense. I think he's not comfortable yet speaking 80 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:56.079 like I understand a lot of Spanish. I understand more Spanish than I can 81 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.600 speak. I was just going to go there with you and me. Our 82 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:03.199 Spanglish is not good enough to go. Yeah, I understand, Like like 83 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:08.639 we have. We have a house keeper who comes to the house. She's 84 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.800 an American citizen and the whole bit in her I've talked to her husband and 85 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.439 he speaks English like you and I. Well, we only speak Spanish to 86 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.800 her, right and and but we know she speaks English, but we just 87 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:23.160 speak Spanish to her. And it's great for her. Yeah, and its 88 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.399 yeah, it's easier for her and it helps us, you know. And 89 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.879 uh and my grandson he's you know, there's you know, my my, 90 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.439 my, my son and his wife. They're speaking a lot of Spanish for 91 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:38.800 him very you know, smart, and he's pretty funny. But now any 92 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:41.519 anything can happen. Again. I don't know if I've told this story, 93 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.800 but every once in a while, my mom and dad, who were you 94 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:50.480 know, native uh Spanish people they spoke Spanish before they spoke English, would 95 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:54.959 say, okay, that's it, we're only speaking Spanish in the house. 96 00:05:55.639 --> 00:06:00.600 That would last like an hour before we were speaking English. Probably you know, 97 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:02.040 when I was elementary school. Oh yeah, yeah, which which uh 98 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:04.560 yeah, So on a scale of one to ten another we're not even talking 99 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:09.279 sports. Can we really do anymore? Uh, you're Spanish, how would 100 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.800 you say speaking it? I'm about a six? Okay, I'm about a 101 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:15.759 five? What about this understanding it? I'm more like in the seven or 102 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:17.800 eight. Yeah, I'm in the either nine. Yeah yeah, yeah, 103 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:19.920 you know, so yeah, yeah, you can't get anything past me. 104 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:23.519 But I couldn't get to tell you, oh you know, I'd have to 105 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.319 stutter and blah blah blah and words and it sounds like yeah, you know, 106 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:28.759 I mean I you know, when I was at the Star, I 107 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:31.240 was on a project, you know, covering Mexico for a couple of months, 108 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:35.079 and then I got in this business venture that I was going to Central 109 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:39.319 America a number of times, and I you don't get my way in and 110 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:42.560 out and you know, and do things and you know, not have any 111 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.240 issues with it. And actually during that period of time, my Spanish got 112 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:47.120 pretty darn good. But then it's like it's like a skill. It's like 113 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:49.800 you don't go to the batting cage every day, so you don't get as 114 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:54.319 well questioned. No question. My kids suffer from that same feet yeah as 115 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:58.199 well. The whitest Spanish and it's in our in our family, right, 116 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:01.079 I've got three older brothers. You started the top, and my brother rick 117 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:05.759 is is fluent through anybody. And then as degrade, you go, that's 118 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:09.399 just how it is. That's just that was. I get it. I 119 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:11.600 get it. Okay, cool, So I was just a thought. But 120 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.000 anyway, that was a massive homer. You know, if you saw the 121 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:19.519 reaction of the Dodgers and the dugout, it's like they had never seen anything 122 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:23.759 like that before. And I think there have been three balls hit out of 123 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:30.040 doctors stay. Willie Stargell did it first, Jim I think Mike Piazza did 124 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.480 it, and Jim Carlo Stanton did it. Stanton was the most recent. 125 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:36.160 Is he even playing anymore? Stanton? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 126 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:39.279 but he's he playing? Oh is he playing? And he's been heard 127 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:41.639 a couple of months right right here. I don't think he's playing when he 128 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:46.560 knew the Yeah, but that was I mean, the thing is again, 129 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:51.199 oh, Tany's homer's sounded different than everybody else. There ere another guys who 130 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:55.519 hit. They'll hit a ball four hundred and seventy feet, it still won't 131 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.560 sound like show Hay sounds. And I don't know if it's the type of 132 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:03.959 bat he's using or what it just sounds different. And when he gets when 133 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.240 you know he's gotten it. Yeah, you see just by looking at him. 134 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:13.000 I mean he hit a line drive over shortstop on Saturday, just over. 135 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.519 I mean the guy almost got it right, just and it skidded to 136 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.519 the to the wall. And it's so fast. I mean they had no 137 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:24.199 chance to cut it off. And just the ground ball into the eye. 138 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:26.800 I mean once it hit the ground, it was rolling in the o and 139 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:28.360 they could not catch up with it. That's how hard he hit. That's 140 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:33.399 funny because because I used to play on field and I went to go see 141 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.200 the Giants when Barry Bonds was on there ten years ago to a Rusty team 142 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.159 show, and I say, if I were to play shortstop, I poop 143 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:43.080 my pants every time he's up one on the balls that get hit hard, 144 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.279 oh yeah, like hard. Yeah. Either you have no time to react 145 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.639 to you about book that you're just ready right and and they make in credit. 146 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.399 You know the shortstops in the major leagues, Well all the fielder is 147 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:54.919 the Major League their third basement. Some of the balls over they get out 148 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.960 of it. It's crazy, but but you know, showy, it was 149 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.360 just an unbelievable shot. And the Dodgers. The Dodgers swept the Red Sox. 150 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.360 They're they're back in business. They're they're they're gonna they're gonna go off 151 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.399 and win this thing by a lot. Okay, sure, you're mean the 152 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:13.039 Yankees are you? You're not a Yankee. God, they're on a tail 153 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:18.320 spin. That's huge. Oh you did so, you're ten for thirty one, 154 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:20.399 ten and twenty one. I think it is last thirty games, last 155 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.879 thirty one game. I think I got a fired uh boon. No, 156 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.679 maybe after the season, but they want to do it. They wouldn't do 157 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.639 it mid season. I mean, they're not doing that bad right overall, 158 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:33.200 they're still doing good. Yeah for a team that started so well the stretch. 159 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.120 Well, it's kind of like the Astros in reverse. Yeah, yeah, 160 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:41.240 Astros are horrible early and now they're doing well again. Now they're bad. 161 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:45.120 Yeah, sorry to save Jay say that's fine. Okay, Hey, 162 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:46.320 hey, remember if you guys want to call five, two, o four, 163 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.559 one, six, seventy four or forty, well we'll hear from you 164 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:56.000 again. We have Dan Riley from the Washington Sports Illustrated and then and then 165 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:01.879 our guy Hammershmid Jeff Hammersmith, Yeah, you know, I'm trying to remember 166 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:03.679 he Well, you don't have to. We'll have to go back to the 167 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:07.279 media guy to see how many Big Twelve venues he played. I know, 168 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:11.919 I can think of what Texas Tech right late at Texas Tech and Oklahoma's not 169 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.519 in the Big twelve anymore, so but just you know, probably not. 170 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:18.519 Well we covered him back then, so we would know, or we would 171 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:20.879 know. Let's say, Oklahoma, they played Texas Tech. That's about it. 172 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.200 Well, that was the and they played Texas Tech here. That was 173 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:26.200 a couple of years that I covered that James Gray in eighty eight, right 174 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:31.799 eighty and Jammel Holloway and they and also in eighty eight. But then they 175 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.399 played different Oklahoma team here in eighty nine that they beat. I don't I 176 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.960 think that's it Jay, that I can remember. Yeah, yeah, okay, 177 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.919 well we'll figure it out. I try to get some people that a 178 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.759 coach or two that had been in the Big twelve they just didn't want to 179 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:48.399 be part of it. Yeah, because you know, what are they going 180 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.279 to say, it's been so long. Yeah, we're gonna have an interesting 181 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.080 conversation tomorrow. I'm looking forward to this. He's been on our show, 182 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:58.879 but he was kind of he had just retired Dan Guerrero, the former uc 183 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.600 L A athletic director. He's now working for a search firm. Uh that 184 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:09.799 that helps uh uh for coaching hires n c w A coaching hires. So 185 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.759 I think we'll try and get some insight on some of that stuff. I 186 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.200 mean, one of the questions I want to ask is how and he's been 187 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:18.360 on the He's been on both sides of it now right as a as an 188 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:22.919 athletic director hiring a guy. Now he's representing guys who are trying to get 189 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.960 hired, you know. Just I'd love to get his thoughts and hear his 190 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:31.360 thoughts on how funny it is to them when they see rumors well flying around. 191 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.159 I don't think I'm gonna ask him because I think it's a silly question 192 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.480 to ask him specifically. But to your point, uh, I think I 193 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:43.080 think the rumors are one thing. Uh, But why spend let's say two 194 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.960 hundred thousand on these guys when you know who You're going to google them? 195 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.279 Yeah, you can google it and you already know the guys. What exactly 196 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:58.440 do they find out for for administrators that they can't find out for themselves. 197 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.480 Or is it just that they just don't want to do the work right right 198 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.559 and we should ask him that. That's very strange though, because you you're 199 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.919 the A D right and you you know the ins and outs. You know 200 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.000 people. Why pay this guy? You're like paying the chauffeur to get you 201 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:15.200 to this place when your guard's perfectly fine that the resume and make a few 202 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:20.799 phone calls and then bring him in. I remember when uh oh uh said 203 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.600 Dempsey was the go to guy, who do who do you go to? 204 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:30.679 Set said, He'll tell you, He'll tell you search for, search for 205 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:35.399 because he knew everybody and trusted everybody. And then but it's an interesting business 206 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.799 because a lot of people do it, right, I still do it. 207 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.159 That's the thing about it. I'm surprised they still do it because, honestly, 208 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:45.960 if you were a code who wouldn't you know and and who you know? 209 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.080 You can call this guy to know this guy? Do you know this 210 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.759 guy? Okay, it's like you're hiring people. Well, there there must 211 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:56.000 I can only assume, and there must be some sort of vetting aspect to 212 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:01.879 it. To the vetting process that we either we don't know, we don't 213 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.960 know what it is, or it's it's too difficult for an athletic department to 214 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.440 put resources into that, so they just go pay somebody to I'll give you 215 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:15.039 one. Do you think they veted someone? Well, if they did, 216 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.919 they did a damn crappy ass job, because if they would have come to 217 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:22.559 me, I would have told him what I'm hearing. Well, everybody, 218 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.919 a lot of people were here right right, right, So how could you 219 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.679 How could you let that slip? I don't know. Did they did? 220 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:33.519 They do a certain remember, remember, but but he was the hot name 221 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:39.399 without the vetting, before you knew anything about him. He was the guy 222 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.080 and everybody was happy when they hired him. I know I was sure, 223 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.440 and you know to to that point too. So if I was happy they 224 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:54.279 hired him until I saw what they got also to to Stoops, I mean, 225 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:56.519 he was the hot guy at the time, the top assistant coach of 226 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.679 the one of the best things. He was Stoops, you did you just 227 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:01.720 didn't know, right, You just thought, Okay, here's a guy who's 228 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.600 been a defensive coordinator and one of the top programs in the country. Great 229 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:11.080 name for a long time, great coaching, chop right, great football and 230 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.679 the whole bit. What else did you need to know? You just what 231 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:16.519 you weren't going to ever find out, no matter how much evading you did, 232 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:20.559 was how good is he as a head coach? You just didn't know 233 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:22.519 you had. And that's a big difference if you've never been in that spot, 234 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.960 right exactly? Okay, let's go well, get ahold of Dan and 235 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:31.240 then talk a lot about the PAC twelve Washington and whatever, just whatever else 236 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:35.200 is going on. Stick around. The Window Depot has everything you need to 237 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.840 create the kitchen or bathroom of your dreams. Browsey aisles of instock cabinets available 238 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.480 in a variety of sizes and configurations, and instantly elevate your space. Today, 239 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:48.039 visit a showroom and let our experts guide you. 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Now we have Dan really long time PAC twelve guy now 297 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:03.680 with sports illustrating in Washington. How are you, Dad? I am good. 298 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:06.119 Good to hear from you, guys. Good to hear from you too. 299 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:11.119 Tell you Steve Rivera's are not the same. I'm the best one out 300 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.039 there. Dan. Just for your f YI, I told Jay the story. 301 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:19.559 You thought I was somebody else. In a tweet about Jedfish, That 302 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:23.480 is true. I did, I did think that was you, but glad 303 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.000 I found you however it happened. Yes, yes, same here. How's 304 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:33.359 life with the Fish up in Washington? Oh? I don't know. It's 305 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:38.480 probably not as amazing as it was the last two years with the new Alabama 306 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:42.960 football coach, but it'll it'll probably work. So, yeah, were you 307 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:48.559 surprised because we didn't talk to you when it all happened when this came down 308 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:53.799 at the beginning with Fish? Was I surprised that he came north? Yeah? 309 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:59.920 Yeah, I think the Big ten is and the SEC are big attractions 310 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.680 to every college football coach out there right now, and it almost doesn't matter 311 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:07.319 what city you live in. If you can get into those leagues, you're 312 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.559 gonna have the most money and the most TV coverage and probably the best players. 313 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:15.160 So what about what about the leaving? How much of a surprise was 314 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:19.640 that to everybody? Well? I was. I was kind of surprised because 315 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:23.720 he's a conservative guy, and uh, you know, but you don't turn 316 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:29.559 down Alabama or you know, unless you're at Georgia. I mean right there, 317 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:33.920 there's just not too many reasons to turn down a place where you're going 318 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:37.880 to have the best resources to be successful. And and the Boor is really 319 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.400 impressive. I mean not too many people still know about him, but he's 320 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.480 as good as it is in running a practice. And and you know, 321 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.920 he beat Oregon three times and it was all on a coaching job because Oregon 322 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.839 probably had better players at least part of the time and better facilities and and 323 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.640 uh, you know, the Boor went in and beat him three times. 324 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:00.640 So he's he's the real deal. Okay, yeah, make sense, that 325 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:03.880 makes sense. Uh So here you are, Are you gonna miss the Pac 326 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:11.119 twelve? Yeah? Yeah, I'm gonna miss coming down to Tucson. I 327 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:15.279 came last year and I thought this might be the last time I ever come 328 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.720 down here, at least for you know, football game and right, and 329 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.319 you know, I went to California and Stanford and I thought the same thing 330 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.720 I last year and the year before, and so yeah, I miss it. 331 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:33.640 I'm not too thrilled about flying back east four times, you know, 332 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:37.759 to go to Rutgers in Indiana. I'm going to go to Iowa and Penn 333 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:41.880 State for sure. I'm debating the other ones because I don't know if I 334 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:44.720 want to get caught in the middle of the country. It's longer than I 335 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:48.200 should be others. Well, let me ask you because you know, I 336 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.960 mean, this has been a while since we known that we were going to 337 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:55.000 get to this with you know, all these teams you know, going all 338 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.920 over all over the place. So what's the what's the temperature in the room 339 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:03.000 now about the moved to the Big ten? Kind of like everybody's shocked when 340 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:06.680 it happened. It happened. People are disappointed at the Big Pac twelve going 341 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.880 away, But now we're here, you know, football seasons a month away. 342 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:15.759 You know, what's what's the mood like about all this now that it's 343 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:18.519 here, What are people thinking about going to the Big ten? Do they 344 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.160 want to be in the Big ten? That kind of thing. By that, 345 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:22.759 I'm talking like, you know, fans and that kind of stuff. 346 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:29.160 Well, you know, having with all of us having been in the Pac 347 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:33.440 twelve, I'm going to say this pretty pretty uh straight up. Is Oregon 348 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.480 and Washington have two of the biggest headed fan bases you can run into. 349 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:42.000 And it happened for Washington when they won with Don James, they all of 350 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.559 a sudden the fan base got kind of out of control and Oregon is just 351 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:49.920 like that now. I mean, everything's unrealistic. Every recruit is the greatest 352 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:55.440 guy that ever came, and and and so these fan bases, both in 353 00:22:55.519 --> 00:23:00.400 Eugene and Seattle, you know, would probably expect nothing but the best and 354 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:07.119 going to the Big Ten rather than being left behind with less money, less 355 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.880 TV and all of that. So they're they're they're up for it. I 356 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:14.240 don't know how many people will travel to all these games, because you know, 357 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.240 it's so easy to go down to Tucson on a NonStop and down to 358 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:22.720 Berkeley and Los Angeles and now here. If you want to go to Iowa, 359 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:26.200 you flying to probably fly in to Chicago and drive two hundred miles. 360 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.480 I did that last year to go to Michigan State. I flew in Chicago 361 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.039 and drove to East Lansing. And you know, you go to Penn State, 362 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:40.400 you get flying at Pittsburgh and or Philadelphia and you travel one hundred and 363 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:44.119 fifty one hundred and eighty miles by car to get there. You know, 364 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.559 it's funny because I let me get in here on this. I spoke to 365 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:55.720 Perry what's he covers Washington for the Seattle Paper. Oh god, yeah, 366 00:23:55.799 --> 00:24:00.279 Perry. Yeah, Percy, Percy Allen. I talked to him. I 367 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:03.400 talked to him at the Big twelve turn at the Pac Tuff Tournament. He 368 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:06.519 said that, he said, people have no idea. You know, they're 369 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:07.680 talking about the travel, but they have no idea. Said, you don't 370 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.119 fly into any of this in any of the Big twelve cities. I mean 371 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.319 there's a couple that you do, Like you said, most of them, 372 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:18.400 you fly somewhere then drive another you know, two three hours to get there. 373 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.279 And that's what people are underestimating about the travel, whereas in the Pac 374 00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:23.240 twelve you flew into the city and you hopped on a bus and went to 375 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:29.279 your hotel and you were there. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's gonna 376 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:30.799 be a hardship, but you know, it's the way of the world, 377 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:36.880 and it's gonna be that way until they have one big conference and split it 378 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.599 up by you know, geography region again. That way somebody like Washington and 379 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:44.839 Arizona be reunited again. I don't know how long it'll take him to come 380 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:47.680 to their senses to do that, though. Yeah. Let me ask you 381 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:51.960 just about last year, what kind of ride was it for you? I 382 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:53.480 know, it's you're not a fan. You're like me. You just straight 383 00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:56.519 ahead and do the job. But there's a lot of work to be done 384 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:03.680 on a potential national title team. Well, you know, I am so 385 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:07.720 old. I covered the nineteen ninety one Washington National championship team, and the 386 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:15.000 similarities I saw were the players were outstanding as far as talking to them, 387 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:17.359 they were you know, when you have a great team, the guys are 388 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:22.039 usually pretty confident and pretty agreeable and like a Lil Madoonsa is, you know, 389 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.200 just a classic character. They love him in Chicago because he just sits 390 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:27.799 there and has a lot to say, and you know, it's kind of 391 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:33.960 fun to listen to him. So I saw similarities in that manner where you 392 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.880 know, the job got a little easier because they were winning. He didn't 393 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.200 write about losses. The players were nicer because they weren't upset about performance. 394 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.319 And the Boor is, you know, like a really a laid back guy. 395 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:51.200 And I'll tell you the previous coach to him, Jimmy Lake, to 396 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:56.240 this day probably still doesn't know my name. And Calin de Boorr knew every 397 00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.759 single one of us guys were that covered his football team. And we come 398 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.599 up and just out of the blue talk to you during practice. So it 399 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:08.480 was a a pretty positive experience, you know for everyone involved. Yeah, 400 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.000 no, that's great to hear because it's because the access to the kids that's 401 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:17.559 getting shut off everywhere. True. Yeah, it's not up there apparently, 402 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:22.240 or is it now? With Jed Well, I don't know about shut off, 403 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:23.920 but you know I used to be able to go out to every single 404 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:29.599 practice, watch it, and then request one or two or three guys after 405 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.720 practice and sit with them for unlimited amount of times. Now you don't watch 406 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:38.440 practice. They'll bring somebody to you at their selection and you know, it'll 407 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.279 be twenty guys talking to one and it'll be very quick. So it's you 408 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.400 know, definitely. We used to call it the Big ten mentality where they 409 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.759 shut everything off and gave you just barely any kind of access at all. 410 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:55.039 And now you know, Washington and most of the other schools out west probably 411 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:59.240 subscribe to that. We're one of them. We do that all the time. 412 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.839 Yeah, that's exactly how they did it. Pull pull one or two 413 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.839 guys after practice and you get you know, you get a question in. 414 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:10.720 So that's where it goes. So what are the thoughts I mean intern, 415 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:14.039 I mean, he's done another probably pretty good job of recruiting, didn't pull 416 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.880 as many Arizona guys as as he wanted to. What are your thoughts on 417 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:19.839 them heading into the season. Where do they fit in the big ten? 418 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:23.720 Do you think? Well, the three polls came out today and hey, 419 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:29.640 they're out of ninth or tenth, so that's middle of the pack borderline, 420 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.680 you know, top level, versus being in the in the second nine. 421 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.640 So that's probably about right, because you know, you lose twenty two out 422 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.480 of twenty out of twenty two starters, so I mean, you've got to 423 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.519 be realistic about that, right. You know, they do have a lot 424 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.880 of starters from other places, meaning you know, a bunch from Arizona and 425 00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:53.200 you know some others. Guy from Oklahoma's coming in that started until he blew 426 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:57.240 in the A and and But the bottom line of this football team will be 427 00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:02.920 how the offensive line comes to together. Because when we ended spring training spring 428 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.960 football, I should say, it was looking pretty tupid. You know, 429 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.480 it's mostly freshman and red short freshman with one sophomore at right tackle and two 430 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.240 guys injured. And they went into the portal and took three guys, and 431 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.880 I'm not sure how good any of them are because they weren't big deals that 432 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.680 you know, their their previous schools. So it all depends on what kind 433 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.400 of offensive line they have or else they're just going to be a break even 434 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:30.680 football team. And so what do you make of Jed himself? He's pretty 435 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:37.559 slick. Yeah, yeah, he's he's got it down. I mean, 436 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:42.359 you know, we had a we had a running back at kicked off the 437 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.680 football team, and that's all anybody wanted to talk to him about. And 438 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:52.039 he had an opening line, opening segment that he gave on how players were 439 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.200 looking pretty good, and finally somebody interrupted him and said, hey, he 440 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.440 just had this guy get arrested and thrown off the football team. That's what 441 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.240 we want to talk about. And you know, it was something that pretty 442 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.839 much happened during the Deboor era, but the guy was still on the team 443 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:11.759 here with with Fish and now he's definitely no longer anywhere near the University of 444 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:18.160 Washington. But yeah, Jetfish does things his own way, and it's kind 445 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.000 of probably reminds me a little bit of why he's got such a lengthy NFL 446 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:27.440 background. It's kind of polished and and you know, but he seems agreeable. 447 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:30.960 Yeah that makes sense. You think you're gonna like covering the Big ten? 448 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.160 Oh, well, we'll see. I mean, you know, I'm 449 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.200 I'm I'm getting to the end of this road, and I decided to do 450 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.799 at least this next year and goes to a couple of Big ten cities. 451 00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.559 I've been to some before, but I thought I'd see how that plays out, 452 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.319 and then all of a sudden, the basketball team might be a lot 453 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.480 better than it was, because it was pretty bad under Mike Hopkins. You 454 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.440 know, it just wasn't interesting and wasn't competitive. You know, I watched 455 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.920 some player zone up here and we're up by ten ers at twelve points, 456 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.799 and you know, they got out coached and lost by twenty or something. 457 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.359 So basketball could be a lot better, and I might want to watch, 458 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.119 you know, see how this team plays out. Yeah. I think you're 459 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.799 a little older than me, but you've been covering this a long time. 460 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:25.559 What paper were you at the times of the Intelligence. I was at the 461 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:32.400 Seattle Post Intelligencer for twenty nine years, and my newspaper career ended at the 462 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:37.519 Atlanta Journal Constitution once the PI closed. That's your twenty two thousand and nine. 463 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:40.720 So when did you come back. I remember you going to Atlanta. 464 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.680 I came back in twenty twelve. I spent about two and a half years 465 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.200 down there, and I to be honest with you, I had one of 466 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:53.519 the coolest jobs I've ever had. I worked for Boeing and they flew me 467 00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.559 all over the world to cover whatever Boweing does. And I went to places 468 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:02.400 like China, India and Saudi ra A as a writer And never would have 469 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.559 done that if I hadn't got into aerospace for a while. Yeah, very 470 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.440 very nice, very cool. We're talking to Dan Rayley from Covers, the 471 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:14.599 Washington Beat for Sports Illustrated. So, I mean you mentioned a second a 472 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:15.960 little bit ago that you think that it's all going to go back to some 473 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:22.079 regional structure, and I know that that's what a lot of people are hoping 474 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.920 for. I know we are out here what god, I mean, how 475 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.000 this could take a while and yeah, and in what form? And you 476 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.680 know how do you you know who calls the shots on that? Well? 477 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.960 I think money is going to call the shots on that because things are getting 478 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:42.960 so expensive with now having to buy players and pay you know, coaches salaries, 479 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:47.720 that are way over the top, at least in Seattle. You know 480 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:52.240 what debor was offered and what jed Fish got. But they're going to come 481 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.240 to a point where you're going to have to take the seventy seventy five schools 482 00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.599 that can afford all of this and call themselves FBI schools and bunch them together. 483 00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:06.440 And the only way to do that and make it work economically is a 484 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:12.359 bunch of them by you know geographics. Don't let them play like don't let 485 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.359 Arizona play Northern Arizona and Washington play Eastern Washington. They got to all play 486 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:20.799 big time games, games that are worthy of maybe big platforms on TV, 487 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:23.359 Like you know, Washington's going to play Tennessee in a couple of years. 488 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:29.039 They should play only games like that at a conference besides the Big Ten conference 489 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.279 schedule. And then you know, all of these teams have to get to 490 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.680 play in the top bowl of games and in the playoffs, and maybe the 491 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.920 playoffs even expand one more time. That's how I see it, because you 492 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:44.839 know, your basketball continues to expand and bring everybody in and makes a lot 493 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:50.000 of money. We had talked to a few people like you talking about the 494 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.960 PAC twelve, the good old days. Any great memories maybe one or two 495 00:32:53.200 --> 00:33:02.720 in your time. Well, yeah, I I I really when I was 496 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.000 a kid, I really enjoyed the Sunny six Killer era. I mean it 497 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.839 was it was like a movie and and you know, Sonny six Killer and 498 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.720 all the guys were just like really hipsters, and they put a lot of 499 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.240 points on the board and washed the football. Until that point had been only 500 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.200 run, you know, run the football and play real conservative, big ten 501 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:30.799 type football. But all of a sudden, this uh native American quarterback from 502 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:35.640 Oregon comes in and just turns the town on its ear. And there's songs 503 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.119 made about him, and he's on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and you 504 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:42.359 know, that was just really an exciting era. And I still see Sonny 505 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.440 all the time, wow around town. And he was in a movie. 506 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.440 He was in the longest yard of the longest yard, which was he which 507 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:52.759 was I kept the google of now, yeah he was in the longest yard, 508 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.880 not the google of Yeah he was. I was a little disappointed that 509 00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:04.599 you didn't say meeting me was part of the hut wh Yeah, no, 510 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:09.320 I just I just had some really good moments, and you know, like 511 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:15.039 and I even away from the games, like I got on a I got 512 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:20.199 on a rebel car bus in Los Angeles once and the only guy. There 513 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.199 were two of us on the bus, and we talked the whole way from 514 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:30.159 the parking lot to the terminal and it was noodhleson. And when I was 515 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.119 in college, I hitchhike down to Los Angeles. I got out of summer 516 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.639 school and a friend of line and I hitchacked down to Los Angeles. And 517 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.159 we're going to stay in a frat house with somebody who went to high school 518 00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:43.639 with and he wasn't there. We got mixed up on the dates, so 519 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.599 we put our sleeping bags down on a running track behind Pauly Pavilion and Johnny 520 00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.280 Wood and woke us up the next morning and asked if we could go to 521 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:59.239 breakfast with him. Sure, coach, but those are my memories that's different 522 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.119 from ours. Did you know that you were working as a reporter at the 523 00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:06.760 time or did he already know you were? Yeah, we were coming from 524 00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.400 probably back to end media day, or that he knew my face for sure. 525 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.679 Yeah, okay, that's cool, very cool. Well, Dad, 526 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.320 appreciate your time. We'll probably get ahold of you down the road at some 527 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:21.920 point. Anythank for Steve Rivera, the real one. Thank you, Dad, 528 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.719 I appreciate it. Right, good, cool, let's go it, 529 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:28.199 come back. I think some of his thoughts are like, you're talking about 530 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.199 money's gonna talk, right, I think it's gonna happen. Yeah, how 531 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:37.000 long? What happened? Well, we still be doing okay, All right, 532 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:38.679 stick around, we are back. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, 533 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:43.119 you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look 534 00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.079 back at the Ludelsen era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot, 535 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:47.800 it was a labor of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, 536 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:52.639 coaches and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who led them, 537 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.239 competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty 538 00:35:55.239 --> 00:36:00.400 five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Lut is an in site to 539 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:05.039 how he built the program into a national powerhouse. What one email me at 540 00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:09.000 Steve Rivera ninety five at gmail dot com. Hi, this is formal. 541 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:14.320 While get leman huntly with Arizona Health. 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We have fifteen minutes slew today this first 558 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.239 hour, and then we've got a second hour hammerschmid in the four fifteen hour. 559 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:35.559 Good stuff. They're very thoughtful, very smart, dude. You can 560 00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.480 get kind of toes. Have been doing this for a while, dude, 561 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:42.320 yeah, wait, way longer, yeah than me. I agree. I 562 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.039 agree with you guys. There's gonna be a West, Midwest, right central. 563 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:49.960 However they break it up right right, you know, in northeast or 564 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.360 oh, just like the Midwest of South? Who the West is going to 565 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.199 be slim? Jay, Well, because it's already it's the PAC twelve was 566 00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.079 already slim. Anyway, those who qualifying for this, who else could you 567 00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.280 bring in in the west? And how far do you go? Well, 568 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:09.199 it's going to depend on who who the Midwest and the South decide they want 569 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:13.480 to keep, right, because remember there was a time that Oklahoma and Texas 570 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:15.480 almost send it up in the PAC twelve right right right? Would they want 571 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.599 to be in the West? Maybe they want maybe if they're going to get 572 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.119 the same amount of money, Maybe it's a twenty five, twenty five, 573 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.639 twenty five, yeah, oh, you know, twenty five and twenty five, 574 00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:27.880 another, twenty five another or something like that, other than twenty twenty 575 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.920 twenty right, twenty you know, maybe maybe it's three instead of four. 576 00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.079 Right, So then you know, and you can do what however you want 577 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.199 to do your playoff and stuff like that. I mean, you don't have 578 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.079 to have it doesn't it doesn't have to be four leagues. I mean, 579 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:44.360 one hundred years ago, the NFL had you know, an east of Central 580 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.639 and a west, and so did the and so did a Major League Baseball 581 00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:51.280 and all those other You can do it that way, you know, it's 582 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:52.599 just a matter of how how you're going to structure your playoff, right, 583 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:57.840 Yeah, but what teams come in, you know, deserves own state and 584 00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.119 I mean Oregon State and one State are not part of this group, right, 585 00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:07.320 but should they be? Yeah? Because they should, right right? 586 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:08.800 So, but they're not now yeah, And and then you know, all 587 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:13.239 of a sudden, Oregon and Washington are back in USC U c l A 588 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.639 back Yeah, but then you have the PAC twelve of the PEC twelve, 589 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.840 Okay, and then who else? Right, That's what I'm saying you're gonna 590 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:22.679 have to you maybe get some of those teams, like maybe some of the 591 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:29.280 Texas teams, right, you know, like maybe the Western kind most you 592 00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.639 know Texas teams, the you know s m U, T, c u 593 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.119 UH, Texas Tech, Baylor, be Kansas, you know, maybe Kansas 594 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.000 and you know some of those like that. Again, it depends on how 595 00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.519 the thing winds up getting structured and do they want to come into that league 596 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:45.960 rather than stay in this other league. Yeah, I mean, you know, 597 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.599 I'd have to go through the conferences right now and say, okay, 598 00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:57.119 these these are the seventy five whatever it is FBS schools. I actually I 599 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.400 think I think it's fifty or sixty. Maybe it's what it is in the 600 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:06.079 fourth conferences, because there's what there's eighteen in the Big in the Big ten, 601 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.440 there's sixteen in the in the in the it's thirty four, there's three 602 00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:15.400 twelve, there's sixteen in the in the eight in the se fifty six fifty 603 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.760 two. So then and then there's what fourteen in the in the ACC sixty 604 00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.440 five sixty success, so it's seventy. Yeah, so let's say you're doing 605 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:27.719 them, you know, twenty one or twenty two or whatever in each league. 606 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.880 In each division you have a west of Central in the East, and 607 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:35.920 then you know, yeah twenty four West, mid West and Midwest and and 608 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.360 south right, and then now you're pulling. Now you can pull teams from 609 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:44.519 some of those teams from Texas as you said, maybe Nebraska, right, 610 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:49.880 Iowa. You know, some of those teams can fall although those are classic 611 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:53.760 Midwest teams, but you know they're sort of the western most of the Midwest 612 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.639 teams. Yeah, it'll be interesting. Let's not worry about that now, 613 00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.480 because we have other things to worry about. The football starts here in about 614 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:05.719 a week, a week from tomorrow, Wednesday, from Wednesday practice first practice, 615 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:09.280 or we're not gonna be here Thursday Friday, We're not. Then I'm 616 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:14.000 out back home for my family thing. And and you're gonna be taking Dick 617 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.159 to take because we're not. We're gonna be busy once. Yeah, we 618 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.519 got work. I've got work to do. I gotta get some work out 619 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:22.199 of the way to target work. Yeah, So Steve is gonna be out, 620 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.440 So we're gonna have Thursday and Friday no show, right, no show, 621 00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:28.920 and then we'll I'll be back Tuesday. You'll be here Monday, and 622 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.800 then we have football pretty much all the time. Way football all the time. 623 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:37.760 It's on. We're gonna have a session with with Brennan, Brent uh 624 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.199 Brent Brennan next Tuesday. There'll be a press conference and a media lunch with 625 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.440 him, so we'll report from that. Those are the good old day Spener. 626 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:46.280 We used to do that all the time. We told me every week, 627 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:50.480 man, every week, brownie is up in the from the student union, 628 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.840 some Hawaiian food. Again, it was a buffet. They fed us. 629 00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.559 We all got fatly, that's what. That's what. They had the 630 00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:01.519 money and they can do whatever they want until they said we better kill The 631 00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:06.679 thing is at that time point they felt like they needed the media, they 632 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.039 needed to coverage, so they fed us. Now it's they get covered from 633 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:13.079 wherever they wanted. They provide their own coverage so they don't have to feed 634 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:17.280 us anymore. Is there still food in the press box for football? Yeah, 635 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.920 it's it's pretty generic, but it's it's it's food. Chicken wings or 636 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.840 chicken tenders, hot dogs, brownies. Yeah, yeah, it's not what 637 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.639 you know. We're media, don't You're not gonna complain? Yeah, I 638 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.880 mean remember that I mean, it was always cold cuts at basketball, remember 639 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.480 it was the cold cut. Yeah. Things Now we get sodas, we 640 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:42.199 don't get soda good sodas. Yeah, but you know, our thing is 641 00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.760 like cops and like donuts and media food, media food, they like free 642 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:47.639 food. Whatever it is, what it is, that's the that's the main 643 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.320 ingredient now. So yeah, yeah, So anyways, we're you know, 644 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.239 we're we're gonna get We're gonna you know, keep gearing up, try again, 645 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.960 try and bring in some big twelve media people in toil. We start 646 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.000 here to kind of talk about, uh, we've had two rate Kansas State 647 00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.840 and Kansas State and Kansas yeah, and then we had well and then we 648 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:08.840 had Brian Hall from from Colorado. Right, so we've been trying to get 649 00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:14.079 a guy from Utah, but we've had respond Michelle too well Michelle. Yeah, 650 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:15.519 we have Michelle Garner for me. It's you. So we're getting there. 651 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:17.960 We'll get there. So we'll get up there. But you don't want 652 00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.639 to reach out talking to talk to Texas Tech and Baylor mainly the people are 653 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:27.679 on Arizona schedule this year, right, both in football mainly, but then 654 00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.679 we'll get to basketball as well. But it's uh, it's happening, Steve. 655 00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.239 We're here. It should be fun, should be fair here, this 656 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.960 this thing is happening. Then also makes a good point which we kind of 657 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:42.079 argue. You you're going to Penn State, you fly here, drive there, 658 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:44.679 you go into Ames, you go to join here if you light here. 659 00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.079 I did that when I went to Kansas a couple of times for basketball. 660 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:51.679 You flew somewhere and you drove. That's why the Manhattan thank Kansas State. 661 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:53.519 I drove by there and you think, God, it's cold and it's 662 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.280 ugly, dry stretch. I'm sure that people feel the same thing when they 663 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.360 flight in the Phoenix comes. Yeah. Well, and some of the places 664 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.880 have their own airports, like I remember, you know, Champagne, Illinois 665 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:07.320 has an airport, but at that time they didn't have jetways. And he 666 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:09.840 got there and we planed and we were there in December and froze, you 667 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:14.119 know, getting from off the plane, you know, across the tarmac and 668 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:17.079 into the into the thing. I probably improved by that. Texas Tech, 669 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.920 I remember flying directly into Texas Tech as I recall, right, but you 670 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.400 know some of those Waco, does Waco have an airport, Yeah? It 671 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:30.400 does okay, so you know, but but you know, personality, as 672 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:34.199 I said, the writer for the Seattle Paper, you know, when I 673 00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.400 talked to him about you know, I asked him the same quality are you 674 00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:37.360 gonna enjoy, you know, you know, going to the Big ten? 675 00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.679 He said, I'm gonna hate the travel, he said, because I'm from 676 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:43.320 there, and I just know that none of those places, not none of 677 00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.559 those he said, a lot of those places don't have their own airports. 678 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:47.880 It's a pain to get in and out of places over there. So we'll 679 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:52.079 see what what he comes up with, what everybody comes up with there should 680 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:57.239 it's good. You wonder how much people are gonna continue to talk about it, 681 00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.360 right, how much of a factor it's going to be, maybe even 682 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.440 how much of a betting factor it's going to be, right, Yeah, 683 00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.840 if if if you've got Oregon going to Penn State and I say it's a 684 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:13.800 it's a noon game Penn State time, which is basically nine am Oregon time. 685 00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.800 I remember, I remember when we went to Wisconsin for that game that 686 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.719 Arizona played at Wisconsin and it was it was it was a noon game there, 687 00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:22.519 which was you know, nine am, two some on time, and 688 00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:27.400 it looked like they were sleepwalking through that damn game. Right. Yeah, 689 00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.400 I remember that, yeah, very much, so, very much. So 690 00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:32.119 again, if you want to call five two O four one six seventy four 691 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:36.960 forty tell us you missed us. I need an ego boost here. I 692 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.719 missed you paid for I did. Yeah, it was another storm. You 693 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.960 got to hit us yesterday, did you at least it got it got it 694 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.440 rained really hard. I don't know that we didn't get any damage or it 695 00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.599 rained hard and it got windy. Yeah, yeah, yeah I heard that 696 00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:55.159 because I'm I'm just I'm a I believe in God. I'm a religious guy, 697 00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.920 but I'm not crazy religious from praying please don't get my house again. 698 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.039 They were still working on it, so that happening. Yeah. No, 699 00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:07.039 I went and played at Swilo. Uh yesterday morning, had a nine thirty 700 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.920 tea time. It was actually it wasn't horribly hot. It was breezy. 701 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.960 You'd never hear the mornings or good morning. It was okay. I didn't 702 00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:17.079 come home kind of all spent like I normally do. I'm actually was taking 703 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.159 a week off. I wasn't gonna play and my son was playing in a 704 00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.679 foursome. And then they needed somebody bailed out at the last minute and they 705 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:30.400 needed another player. So I played shot my usual and had fun. Good 706 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:32.760 uh, good weekend. It's we're getting closer to a lot of different things. 707 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.519 School starts here in a month already. Yeah, so so you know 708 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:42.679 who need you know, who need to get on Rachel Webb, the psychologists 709 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.960 front, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, just see okay, yeah, 710 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.159 some of the things that you know, she's always good on the show. 711 00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.760 Yeah, so we'll get well, we'll talk to her, right any you 712 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:54.000 know what suggestions from listeners? Who do you want to hear? Right? 713 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:58.840 Who do you want to hear from? Look, we players are were limited. 714 00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.159 I mean, uh, Dan just talked about Jet's doing the same thing 715 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.559 up there in terms of you know, talking to players. They pull one 716 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.440 aside at the end of a practice and that's who you get to. The 717 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.840 good old is when we did it, When we did that, go get 718 00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:13.440 whatever you want. Yeah, who you need, Steve, go ahead and 719 00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.119 ask them blah blah blah. Yeah. Now we're at the whims of the 720 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:20.079 whims of them. They they decide, they decide who you get here. 721 00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:24.480 You didn't even play. But here's the question, what did you think about 722 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:31.760 this guy ready for one hundred fifty Yeah, yeah, no, no, 723 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:35.079 no, that's fine, that'd be great. Let's see if we can get 724 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:37.360 Sean Elliott back again. He'll be here in a month for the camp and 725 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:42.400 and you know some of the guys okay to preview the camp, but don't 726 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.000 you here again. Some suggestions from you guys. You know, you know, 727 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.639 the guys that we covered in the past, we might have better connections 728 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.960 with than trying to get it. You know, we like we got Jane 729 00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.079 Bradley last week, but you know it's kind of hard. Those guys have 730 00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:57.960 busy schedules and and you know, you got to see if they're available. 731 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:02.559 So we'll see. But you know, I saw the I know we're gonna 732 00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:07.239 talk about the Summer League first and second team and all that stuff. Okay, 733 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.639 I'll leave that. I'll just say, you know, there's one of 734 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:14.559 the guys didn't make it, but but there during a game to yeah, 735 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.800 so we'll sorry, Oh the game. There's a game tonight. Thought championship, 736 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.679 No championship game. Okay, here's breaking news to Yeah, it is 737 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.559 breaking news to me. I thought it was done over the weekend. It 738 00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:28.840 kind of was, But did you have one more game. Okay, all 739 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.599 right, actually watch that. Yeah, I think that's stead of being watchable. 740 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:37.159 But there's a Dodger game on tonight, Dodgers and the Giants. Oh 741 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:38.760 that's let should be a nice series. I heard a lot of things yesterday 742 00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:45.280 about it. Yeah, definitely. Oh okay, here's the thing. Here's 743 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:51.719 the thing, and this is really breaking news thing, but Apple TV has 744 00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:57.119 announced that they're going to cut back on how much they're doing on TV. 745 00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:02.280 That they're not they're just not getting the viewership. Partly, I think is 746 00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:08.159 because of the availability of this person that that reported on this said that that 747 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:15.159 Apple tv generates less views in a month than Netflix does in the day. 748 00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:22.079 Well that's where the packs just going to say the thing. Maybe one maybe 749 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.280 by not getting that, it's really hurt them, right that they're kind of 750 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:29.320 like, we can't even get sports on our on our you know, on 751 00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:34.000 our platform, So now we're we just got to cut back altogether or that 752 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:38.159 or people like our age, my age, your age just don't want to 753 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:42.000 watch on that platform. Yeah, I mean I get it, I can 754 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.320 abscribe to it stuff like that. Well, my you know, my wife 755 00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:51.400 has a bunch of stuff that she watches a bunch of their their Their programming 756 00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.840 is great, it's really good. They had ted Lasso one that my mom 757 00:49:55.039 --> 00:50:00.480 my, mom my wife watches, The Marvelous missus masl All. I'm watching 758 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:05.639 Presumed Innocent, which was a movie now they've made it into a series and 759 00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:09.079 I've started watching that. So there's some stuff, but it's it is hard 760 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:14.280 to get to like in our in our bedroom on our bedroom TV, you 761 00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.079 have to have a box. We have a box, or you can you 762 00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:21.800 can chrome cast it. But on smart TVs, the app is on there, 763 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:23.639 so it's like as easy as get as it is to get to Netflix 764 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:28.599 or some of the others. But Yeah, says they're they're cutting back. 765 00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.440 They're going to do less TV uh, less programming for their stuff because they're 766 00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:38.960 they're getting killed. So that be interesting interesting to think what would have happened 767 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:44.920 had they gotten the PAC twelve. Would that have boosted their profile or it 768 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:49.320 had not had How long could they have how they could have paid the paid 769 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:53.519 the contract? Right, I'm I'm reluctant to say that they would have lasted 770 00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:57.559 and then and then what you're gonna scramble see what kind of deal we get 771 00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.280 ourselves into We've got to get out of this. Yeah, and we should 772 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:01.679 have done this or done that. Every's gonna land it on its feet. 773 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:07.039 There's no question. They're in a better spot, more stable, for sure, 774 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.480 more stable. It's gonna be fun. It's a new thing. When 775 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.920 we miss the back twell, we talked about this. Of course we will. 776 00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.360 But we move on, right, Yeah, we move on. I'm 777 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.440 ready to move on. Okay, start the season and we'll move on from 778 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.159 this segment. Yeah, I'm back with Henry. All right. Henry's gonna 779 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.119 have some breaking news, all kinds of a lot of basketball to talk about, 780 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:28.519 So Henry be doing that and then just some general stuff out there. 781 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.159 So stick around for all that and we'll be back in at four fifteen. 782 00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:35.840 Right at four fifteen, it'll be Jeff Hammersmith, So come on back