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Marina, Marina is already here with us. Welcome, Maria, Well Schres,
very good night, Jeshi, how are you Hello. Very good evening
to all, very well to a pleasure again to be able to share with
you the invitation and I think that with a very, very interesting subject that,
if not at least ninety- five percent has happened to you. If
any of us have experienced it, then already delighted. Welcome, Jeshi,
and be there. What taste? What a pleasure. She has a very
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Gentlemen, you have ever been unfaithful, you have ever been with someone who
has been unfaithful to you Have you ever lived infidelity, either close to one
way, in a relationship or far away, that you have seen a friend,
some friend, some hermano, some sister who has been unfaithful or you
have been unfaithful We would like all the people who are seeing us to write
us what their experience has been. And good to open this topic. I
would love to ask a question on the table to see infidelity is the result
of a problem in the relationship, or it can even occur in solid relationships.
Who wants to start. I' d like you to start being there.
Then Heje and then Marina, Pacho le Garreto and you I send to
the last wow you order ro. But if there are about two, look
definitely up here two because we' re on Facebook. It' s not
a word. Let' s just say that man has the identity of textual
time. It is true and continually dange to hurt him at home. Obviously,
I do the same as I somehow abta. We may have to be,
but we also believe that there may be a tangen integral negronde. But
the no- answers of the past can lead to happy people who, not
being your grandmother or there, weren' t thinking about your gaps. You
' re living and I work the bottom, there' s things like they
come in like this, I think I at least avoid the ok of the
two jess and you think. I think it' s good. To begin
with, infidelity is that one of the two people breaks trust not this through
either pleasure, either at a given moment, because it was a coincidence or
because it was cohabitation with another person longer than with his partner. Not necessarily,
infidelity occurs because one of the two people has either stopped loving or at
any given time have problems. Neither or at least the person who was the
victim of infidelity is guilty. I don' t think that' s also
an important point for people who have suffered from infidelity is not our fault,
it just occurred to our partner at that time, because enjoying with someone else,
not being us, ok ok son. You put two very interesting topics
on it, one of them that is not to blame or that you are
not to blame and another that you say it occurred to him not to enjoy,
because that enjoy don' t stain it right now we talk about it.
Marina, I' m going with you what you think, because I
' m very much in agreement with Yadic right now. I think fidelity is,
it' s not whether he left with someone else or not. It
is the betrayal, the betrayal of cohabitation with the other person and that is
what hurts, because yes, it does hurt, and I think it is
important to also touch on that issue. What is it, what is it
that hurts, no yes, if knowing that the other person is with another
human being and is doing things with another human being or betraying some commitment that
he had ok legorite pancho. I want to ask you as a therapist,
you as a therapist. Infidelity is always related to the sexual subject, that
is, there is only sexual infidelity or what other type of infidelity there is.
Or if sexual infidelity is the most important in a relationship, not there,
because it is a cluster of circumstances. But definitely the relationship I call
it in the most purely technical language, genitality sex, because, then,
sex we have in every cell of the body. Rather it is the conjunction
of the genitals or the putting into play in the relationship of the genitals to
call that we are using our sexuality when in reality, sexuality we use it
in everything. So, again if we talk about sexuality, then yes,
yes, it is immersed in all infidelity, because there are infidelities where genitals
are not involved and in any case, there is sex at stake, either
because they are homosexual infidelities in the cases of those who have homosexual preferences or
heterosexual infidelities, in those who have heterosexual preferences or both for those who like
it we call in the low world the bicycle. The point is that infidelity
occurs from the personal suffering of who is dissatisfied or dissatisfied with himself and who
seeks compensation for that suffering in another person, from whom he said he was
engaged or engaged. Okay I' m going with you Sara there to see
help us please just sexual infidelity, or there are various types of infidelity.
I have an idea out there that I think there are several kinds of infidelity
for me, but I don' t know how to see you talk,
from your point of view, please and agree everything you know, enlighten us
on this path. Yeah, there' s definitely a lot of infidelity.
In fact, since you are, to say the least, getting attention from
someone and you get an adrenaline, something you should only be having with your
wife or husband, and you continue it, that is, because attraction is
not the problem. Being drawn to someone is not a sin. It'
s what you do with that attraction that makes you an infidel because you'
re giving someone, a third party, into your relationship even if you don
' t take it to something physical, because you' re getting from that
person what would only look like to get from your spouse or the person you
' re in with the pact. No, then, there' s definitely
emotional infidelity, there' s infidelity. He also knows this question like ay,
I don' t realize and I flirt with you I stayed two three
more seconds watching you and I received that tasty adrenaline from the first moments with
someone let' s say and that' s already infidelity. And we'
re also going to what Francisco or Pancho said. I don' t know
how to tell you, but Francisco Pancho, I agree there are so many
svens. Thank you, thank you in Mexico. In Mexico they tell Pancho
Mae Ti son of I don' t know what. So, well,
ugly they call him apancho, hey, hey, yeah, it' s
true for a while I' m just saying so let' s hear something
Sarahi just said. It' s very important, very important because there'
s a kind of emotional infidelity. Jesshi, I' m going with you,
but to see an important point. We have an intellectual center, we
have an emotional center, we have a motor center with which we move,
a sexual center, which is the one that produces the most energy. And,
obviously, each of the centers, because this chemistry that Sarahi Yeshi says
is handled differently. This all of a sudden you turn someone over and they
' re married or they' re married, or even you' re married
and they said something very important. The attraction is not infidelity, but yes
the toy, already when you start with the toy already there, sonal is
when you already squeeze the burra the suit. I don' t know that
' s what I said, but that' s where I think that'
s really it. Not all of us can see the menu without at any
given time giving ourselves to flirting or giving the other side desire also to us.
What if men go to their office every day and find that they share
more time with the person next door, who is possibly more dressed up than
the one at home. Obviously there is going to be a visual attraction,
but at that moment, if you allow yourself to remain like yourself, I
can say hard with your feelings, because of the one you see her and
live with her and all there is no subject. No. The problem is
that when you already give her that the flower and you are already sinuating it
will be something, because at this moment there is already infidelity, because at
the end of the day, as I mentioned in the beginning, infidelity comes
with the desire to do it now in what good way you can do the
strategy or the best simple and you can simply stay honest with the person with
whom you are, because part of showing also love is with fidelity, not
the respect to what the two had left, of not breaking the bond of
belonging faith to each other sexually. Ok Jeschika tells us that then it is
by decision, already when you decide. But other than that, you don
' t just tell someone else. Very interesting fact, when the one in
the office is better arranged than the one in the house or the other way
around, the one in the office is well combed, perfumed, arranged and
the one in the house goes with flip flops and his shirt from America,
which is frightening everywhere, because how not now Madrina. Please, I want
to ask you this issue of infidelity and, of course, it is a
betrayal, but there are traditions of betrayal. It is not the same to
give a rose that to go to take a drag of those not or if
it is the same, that is, there is little infidelity or infidelity of
bigot. What do you think, lack of treachery and feels ugly. But
yes, I think there are levels of betrayal, because one thing is ups,
that is, I was snuck one night and another thing is I already
have another family. On the other hand, no, no, but to
see how I' m gossiped one night before that, before I come back
with you, I don' t know the touch the a. I have
a family. Let me, let me, let me, interrupt you,
right now, I' m still with you. Thanks to Omar José Urbina.
I want to see Sara there talking about it. Thank you very much
to Angel the godmother to czar there is so accurate in her words. You
' ve already brought Caesar Mesa Hello. I' m from Argentina and I
share what you' re saying. Breaking that trust does irreparable damage and the
disappointment it causes is terrible. It hurts so bad, Venus Lopez. Thank
you. They are various types of infidelity. Omar Olmos, we must not
do what we do not want to be done and van Osorio is in the
house, my dear iván always and van we send them a strong hug.
You are, our follower, everywhere we follow in some sense of the word.
Good night, you' re here You' re saying this about who
we' re going about, about the infidels. My dear iván hard and
on the unbelievers, for there are also unbelievers. Pancho legorreta nothing more.
Infidelity occurs in men towards women, or also between women and men. I
know one that was my ex, then I tell them you' re going.
Pancho this recurring theme, therefore, yes, friends, it turns out
that although statistically, the man is usually more unfaithful than the woman, because
it happens only statistically, because in practice infidelity occurs to exactly the same extent
in men that there are women. The thing is, women tend to be
more discreet. That' s how you think I am. So you'
re saying that the good woman, yes, the woman does, makes it
better and quieter the man. We' re indiscreet, and we' re
smug. Do not notice that I lived in Fulanita and the truth is that
it is not true at times. Now be there I want to ask you.
I understand that you are married and that there are agreements in your marriage.
In a marriage there are agreements. There should be agreements between us,
according to your experience and your marriage. How they make these agreements. They
talk to you, they talk to you openly, or they talk to you
like that, you put limits, or how do you do it? You
do not fall into ventilating anyone, neither your husband nor you, but who
limits or how do you do it? My dear do there, because I
think that, before setting limits or putting the non- negotiable ones, what
we call it, the most important thing is to know who you are.
Because knowing who you are, you know what you value. Yes, knowing
what you value is that you can already establish something with someone else, that
is, my limits. I lived them in advance and then what happens that
when we get to a relationship, already rolling and I here you bring hearing
aid also the producer. He' s the one who connects everything to me.
We talked about it from the beginning that we wanted to make a team,
which was a two- way relationship, an exclusive monogamous relationship, and
when we got married, we made this pact of it' s you and
me. But I think one thing that helps us a lot is that we
are, we show ourselves how we are with each other, that is,
we are transparent. When I notice, to say, I have a specific
type of man that I like and Rolando long ago I' m going to
try to be very quick, but that he and my son of fourteen were
seeing a pretty girl and Rolando said I didn' t see her. I
didn' t see her and I love her if I just saw her.
But Blanco, my husband is white brown, like that from stress or daddy.
You think in twelve years I' m gonna think you' ve never
turned around to see a woman. I say what happens is that in twelve
years I hadn' t seen him, because the truth is that if he
does it he' s discreet, but it was illogical for me to think
no and turn and I said love. You think in twelve years. I
' ve never seen a man, no, but I mean, he dropped
his life. And I say Daddy, what happens is that when I see
something like that, I mean, I see a man that attracts me,
I turn around. That' s what I do. For us you know
our basis is biblical. So what it says before sin runs away or not,
resist it. But people can' t handle this. No, I
don' t trust me that much and I do if I see something that
I like, I turn around, I mean, I don' t,
I entertain him. No, then this transparency. And then, when it
happened to me and I told them I told him, although he was surprised,
I told him that the problem is that you flirt a lot with the
dirtbag and like Jershi said and a long time ago. For me it'
s what I' ve been saying that I' m close to my life.
I know what I want. It' s you and me. This
is a pact, we' re husbands, we have a family. Then
whatever you need, pimp, tell me, ask me, and what I
need, I ask you, and I ask you. We' re the
only little time he can buy you from. But we give ourselves up tastyly
that I think it' s also a problem of couple relationships that you don
' t enjoy, but it' s an intentional life. It' s
what I' d say, we intentionally live it. Those agreements. Let
me, let me tell you and congratulate you publicly, because I think it
is also worth congratulating the effort, the dedication of a couple who are trying
to make things right. I love Sara there because whenever I' ve listened
to her, ever since I met her, she' s always put her
husband at the door. He' s not hiding it. No. No,
no, no, no, like who says that, and being a
character like he is there who knows many people, who impact many people,
has always put the place that belongs to her husband. And I' m
sure Rolando, my dear, Rolando, would like to say hello. I
' m not sending you a hug from here. Eche hears or with call
exactly then already with that squeak there you go mine back yeshie please. Tell
us about it. There are infidelities that look like they' re not infidelities,
that is, when someone smiles at you on the street that you have
a partner, when someone comes up and says hello how beautiful? Or when
someone comes up, they say, hey, you pass me your phone and
you, like Mamarilla said, a while ago, you know, you know,
I' ll give the phone to this stranger. These can be considered
microinfidelities. Before you answer me and I go with you, I want to
thank all the people, Ahorita, we read their comments that are participating.
Thank you Ivan, thank you Claudio Angel the Beltrán. Thank you, right
now. We read it, Maximilian, what a pleasure, please write to
us, if you have been unfaithful or if you have ever been unfaithful to
them, I go with you, Oyeshi, micro infidelities. Whatsapp' s
message, the smile, the like on Facebook, that can be considered micro
infidelity or has no chan. I think so, because at the end of
the day, it all starts with intent. If you don' t think
you like someone or who to flirt with, then it just doesn' t
matter. But if you already pass the phone to someone to put the stickers
and go up level, even if it' s through a phone screen.
Of course there is an infidelity and you, at a given time or you
allow me to abhor you and you don' t stop and you stay and
talk and I invite you to have coffee as a reason to meet a person
who doesn' t even know where it comes from and what your intentions are,
unless you' re already considering that person you might like or feel a
click on the person. No. I think that at one point the person
who really wants to continue with that pact with his partner, whether it'
s free union, courtship marriage, the best thing is just focusing on my
partner in a matter of not giving details that you' re around with the
phone. You get your partner and you have to pull him over. You
get nervous the moment you' re getting nervous because you already have that contact
with this other person. You know perfectly well what you' re doing the
faithful that you' re doing if you can hurt the person, even if
it' s text. They told me that, uh, they told me
that. The truth is that I lived it in my own flesh and you
know there, in the unnamed non- marine. And I want to see
you first of all, first of all, I want us to vote this
way with our hands raised economically. Those of us who are here, of
the five who are here raise your hand, to whom you have ever been
unfaithful in your life raise your hand. Yeah, you' re not here
I don' t know There' s a lot of them. I don
' t come in here on the screen. If mine were to be seen,
I wouldn' t go in with pure horn. It would be ninety
percent horn. Now I don' t want them to answer me. I
don' t want them to answer me either. You who are watching us
don' t answer me. But you have been unfaithful at some point.
I can say yes. Okay, I can say yes. Yeah. I
did it in my youth a squirt of years ago. No, and the
truth is, when they did it to her, it feels pretty ugly,
not to me. I got caught one day when I had a hair just
like Jersey' s, just like I did. They didn' t catch
me being unfaithful, and with three three all three they sent the mop that
same night. Horrible, I can' t believe it. Pancho legarreta.
Please, I want you to tell me and help me, please, friend,
to understand if there is some kind of infidelity in which men are more
tendentious than others, and if there are infidelities in which women are more tendentious
to others. There' s some kind of way you can measure it.
O. No. No, no, no. It is just what I
commented earlier, that infidelity occurs equally in men and women, just because of
the prudence in which women are forced to develop educationally is that it is difficult
to identify their moments of impulse. Irreminable for that attraction that told us sarahí
that we feel the same men as women. But the point is just to
know the right men and women as tsar there who, in the face of
the commitment of exclusivity, decide to flee temptation instead of being brave and see
how far they are able to resist it. It' s the worst of
bullshit. Rather, by talking about the same thing between fellow psychologists as between
men and women, we agree that the point is in transparency, as we
conduct ourselves individually to recognize whether or not we want an exclusive relationship and be
as frank as to say well, yes, I like you and like you
to have a relationship of economic dedication, intellectual dedication, of life project,
but in the sexual sphere, do not count on me, because, if
it is not with you, it is with anyone. No ok, but
then that and that would allow you to maintain a relationship by fidelity, because
you are faithful to yourself toward yourself. But then that would no longer be
infidelity. Pancho, because if you remember in which he hears we get along
very well, or we all talk, we tell each other everything, but
not sexual everyone who is free China, because that I think is valid.
However, there would be no sexual infidelity there at least not, because stable
is clear. They are not exact, exact, exact and good agreements,
the only, the only additional comment I make is that they also point out
very punctually. Marina Jeshi knows all three agree on the subject of small,
small slips, flirting, engaging in sacred situations for the other or the other
yes forgiveness, but she presents a message. But in reality, the problem
is not to be attentive, but to be attentive with a subsequent intention,
because it can be attentive to the waiter, it can be attentive to the
cashier and it is a strictly courtesy relationship with the one who is caring for
you. But it is not going to happen from there, because when there
is already a situation where you allow that to base the simple attention to professional
service, then there is already an infidelity. Thank you, Pancho now here
is an important point that I want to comment that being there is this.
No. This is kind of agreements, this kind of agreements that are made
and that, obviously, there is no way to verify them but to believe
in the word, to place trust in the person understanding Sara there that you
will not not be unfaithful to me. You cannot be unfaithful to me,
but you will be unfaithful to yourself in the face of your commitment, in
the face of your word, in the face of your manhood or your investiture
as a lady. You' re not gonna behave so high or so low
according to the promise you keep to me, but first you keep to yourself.
That' s right, before you answer me, I want it very
quickly. Thanks to all your comments. Excuse me If I go on some
pimentel, it will be that all physical infidelity precedes an emotional fidelity. Asks
a goody question brought a hug to everyone, especially Azaris. Good morning.
Good is my Luis, My I think I want to meet your ex everything
you don' t know what and compadreÁngel Pelán. A woman' s
infidelity comes in hiding. Sometimes he' s just a friend. Yeah,
women say he' s one friend or he' s gay. They always
go out with that. Claudio Borjón. The problem with couples is that each
one expects to be loved and loved as he needs and feels waiting for this
to come. They see the couple as a whole and pretend that it is
already very good comment and for this they beg to demand that the other be
as they need. Seek, bless that love that in the outside world,
without knowing that that love we seek is within us. When we already learn
to love each other absolutely, unconditionally it is easier to turn around and see
the other as it is. Thank you, Ivan, thank you, Greetings,
Maximilian. Says Ivan. There are men who try to make courtesies with
the ladies and they have touched him that even stalker they touch him. That
' s also true and nothing to see. I think the infidelity is that
you' ve already started cooking what you wanted but you don' t just
go through a glass of water. Thank you, Angel Beltrán, thank you
for your vulnerability. Angel. I was unfaithful because of the attention I received
from the other person and because she put me before others. Thank you for
sharing and for being vulnerable. That happens a long time after an infidelity.
There' s no turning back. Question Maximilian, or yes, you can
resume the relationship, Ahorita, let' s talk about it. I sadly
bear my jumentad in my youth. Yeah, and I was worse than Iscariotenan.
But, if it seems, my brother Hi Jeshi, greetings, says
Manuel wendy you would invite them start with their own shortcomings. I' m
coming with you my dear tar up there please look. I think we must
also know that we are unbelievers. What I am going to say is a
little controversial, but it is not the same when we have a relationship full
of shortcomings, where we do not give ourselves a good deal, where we
do not give ourselves a place, although we say yes, because the word
is not the same, that the work is not and that there is infidelity.
Hence the truth is that it is logical and expected because there is disrespect,
because there is no communication it achieves then I believe that also as there
is more at stake, infidelity would have an even more serious impact, because
there is a stronger, more solid construction. No, I mean, you
' re not talking about ay I slipped around like they said, that I
fell here without clothes, so that' s never gonna happen. Not if
playing at a point in our life, to come to tell me something like
this would be an absolute not because of the kind of construction we have,
right, so why I tell you this, because people should not believe blindly,
but in the fruits of people. That' s one thing I can
tell you Hi, I' m Madonna, right and you' re not
No Yes, I' m Madonna, no. This isn' t gonna
be there, it' s not because I can say a lot of things
that, maybe I won' t put the weight of my life on this.
Then why do I say it? Because yes, I trust in rolling,
but I think trust should be taken into account and this fails many people
you want to give immediately for gaps that you bring, that is, for
attachments, But the ideal and this is a recommendation that I always do is
don' t tell people what they expect from them. Let them act,
let them be based on who they are and how you know who they are
then that' s when you know at what level or where on your bus.
These people can then go to the construction that we have rolling. And
it' s not because I want to blindly believe in you, but because
it was the steps that I was checking, that he was taking and he
with me, that gave rise to this then an infidelity on a level of
what we have built him and I, for my taste, is much more
serious, or has far more consequences than someone who is playing with his life,
because I don' t deal with mine. Not then I think it
' s super interesting what Sarahi says. Indeed, check not when you find
that the other person really sleeps with her first, for he will surely do
it with you, not when that person, he is divided within. All
right, all right. My coconut tree is towering here. Let' s
see I want you to go with your code. No. No, yeah,
no, no, no, you have to have a different zip code.
Then they live in or else they hear. I want to ask them
I want to be answered Marina, I go with you, then j yes,
legorreta calf and in the end, Sarahi to see this question. I
think it' s worth it if we think about it correctly before we say
anything. Then, then culture, education, where the person lives flows into
whether we are unfaithful or not. I go with you, Marina, then,
with you, Jesica Paco Legarrete and there I think it does have a
lot of influence, and a lot of education that you were given about the
values that you generate for your person. And I' ll give you an
example. Many years ago, still in matters of boyfriends, not formal couples,
I had the opportunity to be unfaithful and yet I stopped because one of
the internal values that I formed was the respect to what I was going to
live, because they told me, because it is that who will find out.
I don' t get the whole sane, who' s going to
find out, I said wait for me to find out, I, okay,
yeah, and then, when I say I find out I' m
just affecting myself with this conflict I' m going to bring, and that
' s home education, the environment you grow up in. I think yes,
it has to do with what you are inculcated in or what you are
living in your perfect environment. Thank you, Marina Jeschie It influences the geography
where we live. Influence the zip code, wait for me to open you
microphone, forgive me I closed it closed it is already open ahead. In
fact, yes, of course it does, because it has to do with
your culture. There are also cultures and there, to this day, in
the 21st century, there are still marriages of six wives and the male on
other occasions, well, you have to see what you see at home.
There are families that are already established for them who live. They have a
whole family, but they occasionally also have couples outside. So, if you
think so, then you think what' s most normal, because that'
s what you' re seeing at home. It also has a lot to
do with this and I don' t want to leave as well as that,
to the extent of what would allow us to be a little bit innocent
not to call it more ugly and to say that it is often because of
education or lack of education that the populated men, because they are given as
little animals and I say they are given with each other and with those with
whom they can and seriously, is a whole subject. Not then, I
think it also has to do with the bases on which you were educated,
which you are losing in these times. I' ve stressed it quite a
few times and then, at the end of the day, I think you
have the education, that you have, that you have the zip code of
what you have if in a moment you' re going to start a relationship
with that person. I totally agree with Sara. So we have to let
you see who that person is to know if the person wants it or not
in your life, because it' s not like I' m telling you,
hey. Yeah, I' m, I' m from African and
in my culture you do allow yourself to have so many wives. Yeah,
but it' s not gonna interest me,' cause I' m used
to doing the. Madam not to be the African of Whatsapp. The point
is to know. I believe that all the people who have cheated on us
I include myself and not a few times it has been because I did not
know how to choose the right person. This was my subject. There I
made a big tache because obviously well, this is giving you age and young,
because I don' t know it can be because he was the most
handsome or then the cute and then the lack of what those two didn'
t give you with another and you' re having like that instead of knowing
and giving you the chance to really know their mistakes, because they looked like
what they wanted me to, but at a given moment, because they dropped
the mask. No and this was because it didn' t take time for
me to say stop, I mean, before a relationship. First we start
with a friendship and then we start giving things away to know who you are
clear to know the person. Now, in these times, Pancho Legarreta,
where everything is fast, where you know a person and you are already proposing
marriage, because you have to be very careful. I don' t want
to ask you, Pancho Legarreta, so you think it does, it depends
on culture. You think in this case those people have some kind of guarantee.
Those people, for example, who are in a religion, who are
in a church, who are taking therapy, who are in personal development courses,
have a tendency to be more faithful than there are no guarantees as to
what you think. No, no, there isn' t, there isn
' t. And yet you can, at least boast affinity in values,
depending on where you meet your partner. So, if you know her in
the congregation, if you know her in the church, if you know her
in the mosque, if you know her in example, in Buddhas and Buddhas,
you have to understand her. Buddhism is not a Buddha. Buddhism is
many Buddhas and can then be in the temple of meditation or in the temple
of some Buddha. Specifically, the situation is. That may allow you to
see me guess the value structure of that person, but it doesn' t
mean it' s a guarantee, because, because I come from a Catholic
Christian family that I could presume that all my acquaintances I did in the temple
had the same values. And today four of them have passed through prison and
twenty- seven have their marriages. We have our marriages. Come to see
Pancho, juancho, tell me quickly, unfaithful grandfather, unfaithful son, unfaithful
grandson, not in any way what in any fair way. In my family
there are such situations where, at some point the women left their marriage,
at other times it was the men and I, for example, have a
couple of dads who are both faithful, as well as Saraiz and her husband,
perfectly clear, totally dedicated. They have fifty- eight years of marriage
and those who are left with a wonderful life. Many congratulations and greetings to
your parents please, it' s good that they' re not like my
ex not what else it takes to be there. I' ll go with
you, I want extra before I go with you. Thank you Manuel,
Manuel Rodríguez for your comments. Wendy like this and and deley start with Mario
Alberto' s own shortcomings. The key is to be reciprocal only to omar
elmos. I think it' s more than anything to have confidence in yourself,
because we can' t be tormenting ourselves to think that the other person
will be doing it. Very good comment, Miguel Castañeda. Good night.
Good night, Miguel, you' re late, man. Everyone here is
very concerned asking where Miguel is. What happened to Miguel? What happened?
Surely, he' s sucking There' s in a corner Call him No
Luis Enrique, greetings from Ecuador. How pleased Luis Enrique, from Ecuador,
Greetings to the entire community of Ecuador. I' ve always thought. Ivan
says fidelity begins by neglecting the couple. It' s like Adam who neglected
Eve, and it' s because of her now we have to wear clothes
and work to eat Ay Mendi, Guadam that boy Adam, so good,
says Angel. My mother taught me values and respect. Although my environment was
difficult, I stayed with single dad, but I feel that for the first
time I believe or a part of me, since I had not been unfaithful
in any of my previous relationships and I did not realize the gaps that I
had until I arrived with a godmother to sara there and saw my major mistakes
not knowing, for not knowing, to have filters dare there. I want
to ask you the question of the five hundred thousand and this is the part.
It is possible for you to forgive and rebuild trust after an infidelity.
If you put me in trouble, oh look, if possible, if possible,
but there are two factors that I would always tell you look. If
these two things aren' t there, there' s no way before both.
I' ll tell you fast enough. It must be understood that we
all limp something and we all have gaps and ways, that is, legitimate
needs that we fill in illegitimate ways. Call yourself food, call yourself videos
that feed us from being called infidelity, call yourself gossip, call yourself rude,
or take revenge for treating people badly to make you feel good. With
the same truth to you. Then we all have proclivities and those we have
to learn to deal with. So, having said this, when you understand
that you are in front of another human being, who also suffers, who
also suffers and understands that you are not perfect, it is the only,
only way to be able to even conceive of this. Ok because staying in
marriage or in a couple after an infidelity saying you forgive and turning one hell
' s life to the other is not right. No one takes advantage of
it, but the two things I say to people so they could consider it.
But then it' s an eight- step course we have. That
would be the first thing on the part of both of us. There must
be will on the part of both of us, because many times the infidel
what you say oh man how we advance this, that is, you broke
my whole life what you' re talking about. I mean, there'
s remorse because they got it, but there' s no genuine regret.
I am explaining this issue where I realized that I broke something and that I
am willing to go through the process of restoring it, then there must be
will on the part of both of us. Yeah, and then, in
those steps that later, if you want, we' ll talk about it.
I think you have to be able before you say yes, to evaluate
the damage why, because many times you say you forgive, but you don
' t know what you' re forgiving, because in the fear of losing
the fast bond you try not that you and I are going to make it.
But then you hear the person because you didn' t evaluate everything that
broke and the levels and depth he had. If by being completely accurate about
what it is that you are forgiving. It' s the only way it
' s really and heartily given. And the truth I have found that that
can strengthen a couple, because many times they live in the couple as very
superficially, very well I expect this from you but we never communicate. And
an infidelity. When these two factors exist and the pair is reconnected, sometimes
it is the first time that they are shown completely as they are because they
are already raw. Then they have to be very specific couples, very specific
people and a specific heart. It' s also nothing else because I don
' t want to lose her. That doesn' t really work for anyone.
That is, my opinion, a specific heart. Please remind us of
your social networks very quickly. It' s there where we can find you.
Please find us literal in all networks, like Rana to Reina, and
if you want to contact us for sessions, etc, in Rana Reina,
with Rana to Reina. There you can find Sarai Francisco Legarreta, I go
with you what are your social networks and right now, I ask you the
following question. Pancho Legarreta on Facebook and Instagram. Great, jesshie your social
networks. Oh wait for me Jeshee, let me open you microphone sit down,
I close it I am the tulpable. Excuse me now, yes,
you can speak Nata Brampes. I' m also on all social networks like
Jessicas, like Jesse Cuevas, so just like tick Top, Facebook, on
Instagram, it' s YouTube, this one everywhere. Jeshica Cuevas has a
testimony of a kidnapping that she lived and did the book. I highly recommend
the book, because it doesn' t just tell her story. It is
not a story truly forgive me for telling it this way according to your book
and what happened to you. It' s a really interesting story. But
he lived an issue even with a very close person, that is, how
amazing that the closest people are the ones who can sometimes do us the most
harm. I highly recommend you. Look for Jeshica, buy your book.
They won' t regret it. It' s a fabulous story and,
apart from shockingly, it' s going to leave them a good message.
How we found you. To you of course, I am full with MX
on Facebook, I am like a full life system. Those are my forms,
my social networks. OK. Now ask everyone. I want you to
answer me in such a way, immediately economic, as a vote, as
we did a while ago. Let me know that we are the Senate of
the Mexican Republic here, but we do work here. There are five of
us here, at least if all five of us work. OK. I
said that. Please tell me you believe that the one who believes here of
the five that we are that social networks came to facilitate infidelity. Yes or
no, totally ok out of the five four pacho the wagon says no.
I think they did come to make it easier to be unfaithful. My reason
is I' ll have later asked and told them. I' m going
with you Sara there to see you give us your point of view on this.
Why do you think they make it easier for social networks to infidelity,
because it' s this microfidelity or microinfidelity that they were talking about that I
' m reconnecting with my friend in high school, well, yes, but
yes, I mean, because it gives you these microinfidelities, as they say,
because I' m reconnecting, but for what, that is, people
who were twenty- thirty years old not to see them, for what then
it does. And I also think it really affects the relationship in general,
because it takes away this gallantry. It' s this courtship' s father
thing, because they already send you one day and already as easy as the
flirting already started. Infidelity has already begun and before a minimum, it was
necessary to go out and give him a little more money to be unfaithful.
And now you' re already liting Thans, which means you get in the
right way and you' re done. Okay, Marina, tell us your
point of view. I think so. Obviously it makes it easier because you
have much more access to the hand and you can also kind of have more
options, you know and you can also hide it much easier. It'
s not just like a good ay where I' m going to look for
it. You' ve got your own house. She' s got pacha
screaming at her. Marina says you can hide it easily. Let him hide
something he shouldn' t hide. Yeah, it' s kind of dangerous,
no, but what do you think is better than Jesshi first to tell
us his point of view. Let' s see, Jesshi, let'
s go with you again the microphone. I don' t know what'
s wrong with you. Already there is ok because I am also totally in
favor of that the social networks have come not only to increase, but they
facilitate it in questions that already there are many pages and this you listen to
with friends in order of pages where you are seeing that the girl takes off
her shoe, that I do not know what, both if you are from
behind And as it is, there are many pages or you go on Facebook
and suddenly, if you entered a real estate group, in my case or
in a group of whatever, it is not missing that you find the link
of some girl who is wanting to give his services or of boys because right
now those who are also very much of boga. It' s the kids
who send you the betrothal that' s what' s about the kid and
the kid dances there. It does everything through the screen, then nothing else
is that you meet the ex two months ago or five years ago, or
that suddenly a new friend, because he' s from some other country.
It makes you interesting and you start filtering with that person, maybe without bad
intentions, but you end up with that good what you talked to him,
you didn' t talk about it with the couple and you felt more comfortable.
But at the end of the day, I feel that, as we
said from the beginning, not everything has to do with intent. If you,
at a time when you' re watching the screen, you' re
not interested. You turn it around, it' s okay. Infidelity is
an intention, It is the intention to continue to give you satisfaction, because,
at the end of the day, being unfaithful is for a selfish satisfaction,
without thinking about what is thinking, feeling your partner. Thank you,
Jeshi, Pacho lagarreta Platícanos, please, and also here an important subject that
you touched on earlier then the open relationships. Let' s say you saw
the UFF anti- infidelity solution, because there are plenty of solutions, but
the open relationship is not in itself the generalized solution to infidelities. It is
only an alternative, depending on the type of relationship. You told us,
sarahí that you formulated with your partner. I am reading very interesting comments from
the audience' s listeners, but above all I am reflecting on the contributions
made to us by Marina, Jeshee and Saraí, because it seems that the
tendency of social networks to bring human interaction closer impacts on infidelity when or infidelity
has simply been there. And the closeness caused by social networks, because it
is only closeness. You decide if you already know if it puts infidelity or
simply makes friendship. Hey, pacho in five seconds. You have five seconds.
Just tell us your capsules you have. Please, what good question,
oh friends, you' re going to love, what good question? The
capsules that we have of personal development, those of general culture, those of
grasping me lost and, of course, those of simple approach to the people
that we find in the street. We' ll be going to your city
We' ll be going to your country. If you see us, say
hello because we' re dating and they really don' t know how funny
we' re getting. And the people who have recognized us, too,
have become very interesting about what good question. I want to invite you to
see Yeshi' s interview with Pancho legarreta of being there, what a good
question. There are very interesting things about each of them. Stay with me,
it' s worth a lot. We' ll be talking to Marina
soon. Thank you for following us here on this fan page. I hope
they follow us. Please, it' s going to be interesting. Every
Tuesday is a new theme and every Tuesday we will be talking to new guests.
So follow us. Get out there I' m coming with you.
I want you to tell us, please, and give us some advice.
Let' s go with the straight line, let' s go to the
straight end. Please tell us three recommendations, each of you three recommendations.
That' s where you can give us concrete precision so we don' t
fall into infidelity, in the couple. M you know yourself so that you
know where you' re taking it is the most important thing. You know
what. Where you don' t get through, not another round. That
' s what' s tremendous. I knew what was coming for us to
do. I knew it. I know myself. I learn to explain clearly
who to live, who I am and to explain who I am ok and
I only relate to people that I don' t try to force my narrative,
but walk in the same way as I walk. I do, I
mean, because the rest, you can' t control anything else. But
if you know yourself and you know how to express what you need, you
will not win these mental games, therefore, and you do not lie to
yourself that someone enters into a narrative that is not true and you only relate
to people on that same level or consciousness or viberation. Whatever you call it
or values, no, and therefore value the same thing as me, and
that would be the answer, in my case, the recommendation. Stop fooling
yourself guys, great, great, very good, very good. Thank you.
Let' s go with the comments. I' m going with you
or Yeshi very briefly. Please, I' ll even open your microphone.
So, okay, I thought you were talking about it alphúblico already. Okay.
For me all three would be honesty, Honesty with oneself more than with
the person with whom you are going to make a promise of fidelity, Not
knowing wants that if you simply and simply are a person addicted to sex,
because there is also that between men and women, no more men, because
not to commit fully, no and tell the couple with me this part do
not count it. It would be yes to reaching agreements before committing to something
greater. But or that they had the romance, they already had the affection
and they plan to take the next step. Yeah, like touching the point
of how far they think they commit to what fidelity is. And thirdly,
I think that we personally always have to have as our world, where that
world, as well as this beautiful baby, being there mentions and does not
hide from her partner that this world is two when you commit to being with
that person and does not mean not having a social life, and does not
mean not being with family or friends, but what respect is, not above
all saying we are for each other. If I have a temptation or if
I have any desire, if I want to, I don' t know
how to experience something new, because it' s best to come with your
partner, because you know that you have everything clean, all right with her
as well as to get another infection from the outside. No, then I
think you have that' s the truth. So that' s honesty,
agreements and loyalty for many. Thank you. Thank you, Jes, and
I' m coming with you, Marina Corazón. They were telling me that
my second name and temptation so far I understand. I' m coming with
you, Mariña Mira. I think it' s also getting to formalize with
a couple. You have to get to formalize without putting expectations to the other
person, without putting it on the table, because then one forms expectations about
the other person and you really don' t know what that is. Person
expects from the relationship. One two, as they said, of that respect,
but first I respect yourself, yourself and three, knowing what you'
re waiting for from the relationship. In itself, how far I want to
go and this is where I want to formalize so I can know what I
' m going to compromise. Thank you very much for the reason. Garreta
' s pancho. Please, three very quickly, honesty, with yourself,
with yourself telling the truth that is not the same as honesty, taking care
that you don' t say truth ok and tenderness, tenderness at all times.
Gentlemen, Pancho Leerta just said something. Stop giving truths, not just
about your partner. Nobody. You' re not your partner' s dad,
you' re not the coach, you' re not the tutor,
you' re not responsible. But stop walking. It' s because I
love you that I tell the truth to you that you don' t know,
don' t know and with jobs you know you. I do not
wish that you knew yourself well, so that then yes, now the hour,
for you also provoke me and so do not hear me. Says Osorio
Ivan, my wife is Baby Ponjita. That' s what he says to
his wife. I love it. It does not say that when man truly
has his well- understood values and education. That' s how a model
passes it. He' s never gonna walk around with dogs, no,
and this one and the one with the broom is even looking to score.
Goody brought up God who helped me recognize my anger and from there the story
changed. Angel should last an hour longer. This live is very good.
Thank you very much, Angel. Bring your relationships to fruition. Angel just
said a jewel. Gentlemen, you know what it' s called with this.
With this stop putting and romanticizing that love comes from the heart and fights.
No. No. No. The one who truly loves uses this because
even to love one has to know, respect the person and leave him free
to make his decisions. What a taste or more greetings to all many excellent
blessings from Veracruz invite us to a coffee omar no more like this. There
are greetings, send us, coffee or send us. Something to hear.
I want to thank you all. Thanks to figs, but I' d
love to, please, before we say goodbye. I would very much like
you to tell me this part of the pain and reflecting a little bit,
the pain of infidelity can heal. I' d love to hear from you
and an end message. Please. I' m going with you first,
Jeshi, very briefly. Jeshi, marinate, pancho igarrete and we close with
gold brooch with Sarahi. It has been a pleasure for me, a privilege
for you to join us. I insist on following us because it' s
going to be good and you can win even wool with us here. What
a good question, Jeshee, you can heal an infidelity, yes or no.
Of course I do. It' s all from resilience and, above
all, self- respect, not at the moment that you' re standing
well and that you know that everything was either conceptual, either way, but
that you gave the best of yourself that you did reserve to what was the
relationship as a couple. I think that simply and simply we have to accept
that there are men or people who do not know how to respect what it
is to do things right, there are no women as well. There are
women, too. You create me chip s g ras two dated. I
' m coming with you, Marina. Thank you. I think you can,
you can heal. It' s a job of its own. You
have to do your part of decorating yourself, because the pain you' re
feeling, and that has to be totally independent of what the other person does
or doesn' t do, because it' s an internal job, but
I think you can handle it at some point. OK, thank you,
Lagarreta male Marina. Please, Well, we say in psychology that the grave
of infidelity is not infidelity, per se genitality sex, but lies accompanied.
To come to that, then what implies greater effort is forgiveness of lies.
And, of course you can forgive the lies nothing more than there is nothing
that the other person can do to forgive the affected person or the affected person
to the lie, but just, as Marina said, it is a job
that begins with the one who lives the pain and thanks, Sancho. Forgive
me, Marina You were gonna say something. Oh, no, OK,
make sure you signal us because they' re not obscene, because I do
get that on me Yeah, yeah, no. That' s why I
do answer, I know. So how am I supposed to hear what a
good question you just asked us? Now what good question did you just ask
us? Jenner González says the question is how to take the ego off.
Good to the next show. We won' t invite you to stay and
talk about the ego anymore. It can' t be on the next show
for you to join us and be here. Angel Beltrán tells us good to
omar elmos effectively, of course you can heal if there is love and great
repentance, of course, when you really ask forgiveness with repentance, can you
heal? Sanar saysÁngel Beltrán from himself, if possible. It costs because
you have high and low, but ro Ns was not built in one day,
and it is a constant work in many areas of our life. Thank
you, Angel, thank you all for your comments. I' m going
with you there. But before I go with you, I am of the
idea and forgive me all those who say and think otherwise. I am of
the idea that infidelity is not forgiven, because it is a decision. And
when someone decides to hurt you knowing he' s gonna hurt you, knowing
he' s gonna hurt you, knowing he' s gonna break the pacts,
knowing he' s gonna abuse you, that' s not forgiving.
You can never forgive a mistake. But when someone does something intentional against you,
he wants you to stay away as soon as possible, because those people
don' t change. Whoever lies to himself, who betrays himself is a
miserable one who does not deserve forgiveness. Excuse me, I have to say,
and this one goes with dedications. I' ll be right there I
' ll leave you the microphone. Hey, hi. This to me,
indeed look is that the problem is not infidelity. Not all relationships were well
before infidelity. Then rescue something that wasn' t worth entering, not true,
but you can heal your heart after an infidelity. Yes, but I
agree a lot with Jeshie. It has to be from resilience, that is,
not letting the pain win, and we have to be intentional in turning
ashes into flowers, that is, that what the tree has in bloom lives
from what it has buried. It' s not a poem. Out there
aha then I think the intention that nothing in this life breaks us and live
the fullness and part of it on the way is going to be to forgive.
Even if you don' t reconcile the relationship, I think it'
s very important that we see it in your case. I hope you'
ll forgive her. I don' t expect you to make up with her
just to leave this issue behind and talk about other things and not the unnameable
one. I hope that I find that not fifty- six years ago,
they didn' t lose anymore. Let me tell you your things. Sara
over there. Thank you, many blessings, many thanks, a hug and
all of Jeshee. Thank you, blessings to you, too, Marina.
Thank you so much for accepting you are welcome Pancho Lagarreta. As always I
am Luis Miguel Salvado. For me it is a pleasure and a privilege to
join us in what good question and we see each other and listen to each
other in a forthcoming program. Thank you indeed all and it has been a
pleasure and a privilege to connect with you. Welcome. Be everyone for the
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Son, you get good blessings for everyone, good bye that go very well
blessings. Thank you, bye S,