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anybody we have filling in. Prettymacist
who fills in from time to time as

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well. Yes, absolutely, I
always appreciate that. A couple of texts

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principals Team ninety five ninety six.
I remember the magic carpet. See I'm

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not going crazy. Guys are killing
me. I thought maybe it was like

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the Mandela fact or something. Yeah, with the with the Shack movie that

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did everybody thinks the Shack was in
a movie called the was a Shazam or

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something, and there was a Couzam
movie. But everybody thinks Sinbad was in

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this genie movie that it never existed. I don't believe that there's a Sawid

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as a kid. There's like a
collective delusion about this. That movie Shaq

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was in, Kazam Sinbad was not
in a genie movie. Well Gren said,

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he's seen it. Just this collective
delusion though, so he's kind of

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someone. He's saying that Grant is
delusional. Well, yeah, I'm saying

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that that's probably fair. But it's
just like the Fruit of the Loom thing

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that's going around the internet right now. What was going on with that,

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Like they used to have like some
little other part of their logo, but

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they're saying that it never existed.
I listen, I know you love a

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conspiracy theory, Nick, Well yeah, I mean, okay, I remember

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the Fruit of the Looms guys.
It was great, the Apples and you

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know all those guys. So you're
saying what's now is an issue, and

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so the logo used to have like
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can't remember what it's called. Well, they think, but it didn't really

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used to have. It's like this
saying, people who think that Britney Spears

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wore the headset and the oops I
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actually ever wear a headset in that
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god. No. Are the people
that think Jeff Peanut Butter used to be

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Jiffy. It was never Jiffy.
So why would anyone say something was Jiffy

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when it was just jiff It's all
about the mind control. Nick. Are

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people that think the Curious George used
to have a tail but he never did.

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Oh, someone out there right listening
to the show, was it Jeff

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or Jiffy? The Curious George actually
have a tail or? Did he not?

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And sendbad was in that movie?
He was not in that movie.

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It never happened. I saw it. Are people that think that the Monopoly

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Man had a monocle. He never
had a monocle. You never seen all

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these things, like people think the
the stunt. It's like, He's understand

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why people would say that about Monopoly
because on the game itself, as McDonald's

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wouldn't advertise it every single year he
would have a mononical. So that's probably

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why you know, everyone to mister
Peanut had a monocle. Hmm, yeah

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he did. I'm just saying I
don't know the thing. It kills me

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because uh the uh there's the sindbad
one is the one that everybody insists I

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saw that movie. Fret said he
saw the movie, so I'm gonna trust

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his eyes. I'm gonna trust his
eyes, dude. I yeah, Kazam

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was a movie. It starts Shaquille
O'Neil as a genie. Yeah. I

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mean, I hate to say that
I did see that movie. So but

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I'm still going to side with Grant
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saw it, he saw it,
just don't go down the reddit rabbit hole.

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Yeah, crazy, because people would
insist that they were in the movie

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and saw this in the theater,
saw this movie that does not exist.

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So serious, it's a conspiracy theory. Now it's all about mind control.

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Maybe they were drinking a six pack. It's time for the NFL sixth path.

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I'm gonna trade a lot of beer, insight and inside information you can't

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find anywhere else. No. Six
the top six NFL headline. What oh,

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let's see here, old friend Teddy
Bridgewater was named head coach and is

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Alma Modern Miami Northwestern. That's right, Teddy Bridgewater retiring, but he's sticking

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around the game of football, something
we first reported in the Broncos game right

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before the Detroit Lions. The Teddy
Bridgewater was going to get back to high

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school coaching, and according to the
portal, he has been named the head

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coach of is Alma Modern Miami Northwest
High School. SI dot com reporting that

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they parted ways the former head coach
michae Lee Harris after one season. That

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opened the North Bridgewater to fill the
vacancy. Quarterback was the school's first choice,

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but was not availble to formally take
the position until the Lions season obviously

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had ended Detroit's loss to San Francisco. He's now at the Helm Bridgewaters.

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For his career, passed for six
thousand, seven twelve yards and seventy touchdowns

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in his high school career. The
number thirty two overall pick of the twenty

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fourteen draft, Ridgewater peers the seventy
nine games sixty five starts over ten seasons

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with Minnesota, New Orleans, Carolina, Denver, Miami and Detroit, win

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sixty six percent of his passes fifteen
twenty yards, seventy five touchdowns at forty

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seven interceptions. I think he's gonna
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think about Teddy Bridgewater becoming a high
school hit football coach. You know,

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the first at first glance, I
don't like it. And the reason why

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I don't like it because Northwestern High
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right and we could never beat him. So understanding the fact that Teddy has

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been around some great coaches, He's
gonna bring arsenal of plays. But all

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that being aside, man call back
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Miami. Everyone is really excited about
it because you know, when you have

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a high school guy that ends up
going to the NFL, and Teddy was

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drafted first round by the Minnesota Vikings, and the fact that he's played in

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the league as long as he did, he spent one two season with the

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Miami Dolphins, great for him.
It is good for him, great for

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Miami high school football scene. So
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I'm happy for him. Teddy kind
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at Detroit. He kind of told
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how we knew it was gonna happen. But I'm happy for him. He's

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beginning the next phase of his career
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high school ball. I think that
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ways, and I think he's gonna
be bro good at it. Two.

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Gardner Minshew says, I'd love to
settle down and find somewhere to call home.

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Quarterback Gardner Minshe wound up in the
Pro Bowl this week and he's the

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first Colts quarterback to make it there
since Andrew Locke, but he might be

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moving on this offseason. The Colts
had signed Minsheet a one year deal last

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offseason. He became the team starter
after Anthony Richardson's season ending shoulder surgery.

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Colts went seven and six with Minshew. With the Helmes, he came close

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to a Week eighteen win that would
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a first round pick last year,
so minshe will either be returning as a

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backup and moving on. He said
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are going to play out this offseason, but it wouldn't mind a long stay

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summer after bouncing from Jacksonville Toffility to
India over the last four years. Same

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quote. I'm a rambling man a
little bit my soul, but man would

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love to settle down and find somewhere
to call home. But until then,

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we're gonna keep on rolling. Guaranteed. Started job might not be a Minshe's

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future, but he could get a
chance to compete for a job with the

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other tables, the cults. Would
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Denver doing what being the starting quarterback? Now? I'm good, I'm good.

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I mean more people compete with Grant
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I get the whole idea. Yeah, I mean the mustache thing.

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I mean it was. It was
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the Jackson the Jaguars at a certain
level of excitement. Is Gardner Minshew d

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quarterback that the Broncos need? No, but it is a very interesting name

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to just kind of toss out there
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a guy that can excite a fan
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could really make you angry as a
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interest. I mean, there are
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you a couple of weeks. I
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rank where you put Gardner Minshew in
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quarterbacks that would be considered for Bridge
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Okay, yes, I mean that's
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are adding a couple of former players
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staff thoughts you might appreciate that.
Mike garra Fuller reporting that Las Vegas will

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hire my good buddy Deshaun Foster as
the running backs coach away from UCLA,

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and Rapport said they're also expected to
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specialist. Foster, of course been
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played College Bosses twenty seventeen. The
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at Texas Attack. That's where the
connection comes from. Foster played seventy nine

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games forty two starts over his years
in Carolina and San Francisco from all three

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to eight. Carter serves as the
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twenty eighteen, was the defense defensive
line Chivy Jets defensive line coach in nineteen

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twenty twenty, and elis Huge defensive
line coach in twenty twenty one. Nick

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as a former player, how do
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actively stopped for get these assistant coaching
jobs. I love it. I put

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something out the other day when Alex
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the noon of the Patriot Listen,
I love it. I would love to

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see more former players get opportunities.
And the spell that rumors that former players

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don't want to work, I still
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but I love the idea because adding
former players, they can really help the

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players at their positions because they can
tell them what the expectations are, look

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the real expectations. But also it
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I'm all for even though they're working
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of more former players get an opportunity. Well, I texted to Sean and

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I told them congratulations. But also
I have to hate you, so I'm

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just just give it your heads up
row listen. I mean the hate doesn't

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on that deep. Just twice a
year, it's a strong dislike. It

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just a te strong dislike twice.
Don't up to wait other games and win

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the division either, so it's a
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four. But these Saints are working
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Saints can't make an official till after
the Super Bowl, but they reportedly have

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found their guy New Orleans. He
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San Franciscos passing game quarter at Clint
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week's game in Las Vegas, obviously, so these Saints have to hold off

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on making an announcement. Kubiak is
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years the Broncos passing game coordinator in
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with the Vikings as quarterbacks coach from
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coordinator in twenty twenty one. Of
course, the son of Texas and Broncos

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head coach Gary Kubiak, Clint also
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Eighteen's an offensive assistance. Saints fired
long time offensive coordinator Peter Carmichael. That's

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finishing number nine and points scored in
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The Carmile Cole course caught on in
Denver. Kubiak was also on Dan Quinn's

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short list for offensive coordinator there in
Washington ultimately chooses New Orleans. We think

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about Clint Kubiak taking over the Saints
offense. I love this because he's a

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guy who has been on both sides
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CSU Rams, he played safety,
then he made that transition over to the

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office side of the ball. And
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his father was officsive coordinator with the
Minnesota Vikings and then his father retired,

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Clinton took over and Kirk Cousins had
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So I'm not saying that we can
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if it happens, I understand.
I yeah, I don't think that there's

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the money available to do that.
Obviously they've got Derek carr d contract down

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there as well, but I like
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on Washington shortlist. Like like I
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who they ultimately get. Whether these
Chip Kelly rumors come to fruition. Although

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I've told that that was not as
big a thing as it was out to

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be, they could ultimately circle around
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Klint Coobie five. You talked about
this to me a little bit earlier to

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a talk about law on a long
term deal with the Dolphins, says he

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believes it will happen. Dolphins lost
to the Chiefs in the playoffs last month.

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Miami GM Chris Greer says the team's
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term playing at a high level,
but put a long term for t might

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look like what the Dolphins is currently
unclear. Tager Lewis said in Orlando at

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the Pro Bowl Games this week he
shares the same goal when it comes to

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a second contract with Miami, saying
quote, I believe that will happen.

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He didn't deal further into the status
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saying quote, I'm gonna let you
know my agents, Chris Mike McDaniel talk

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about that. Let them move forward. Accordingly to a Turns twenty six in

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March, Is entering last year his
rookie deal. Miami picked up his fifth

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year option last spring, coming off
his best season of his career, large

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part because he finally stayed healthy for
an entire season in seventeen games to a

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complete sixty nine point three percent of
his throws for a league leading four six

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and twenty four yards, twenty nine
touchdowns, fourteen picks. It was good

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for a one to one point one
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my main goal this year was to
play seventeen plus games. I was

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able to accomplish that goal, and
just very fortunate that I was able to

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do that. Very happy too.
Of course, some frigid conditions of Dolphins

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were not very competitive in their playoff
loss to the Chiefs, and he finished

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his postseason first post he's to start
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yards with a touchdown and a pick. Miami enters twenty twenty four a clubhusse

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to determine what kind of contract that's
going to give him. They do have

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two franchise tags and they could use
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to to a long term deal?
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sounds crazy, but if you look
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the numbers have gone up as far
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five hundreds about forty six hundred now. His interceptions have gone up in twenty

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twenty two twenty five touchdowns, eight
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this year. And when you look
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to make sure that you have a
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could spend in a one particular position
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helps you out. So su it
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mcdaney wants wants to do. And
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tyree Q, how may hell can
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the thing that Miami has to say
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behind to are we going we getting
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this or is this going to be
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long term? And I think that's
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You've seen that he can thrive in
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with more experience in that offense.
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it great. The question for me
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that he was going to stay healthy
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that. Now can he do that
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one's a follow up, as the
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them twenty million dollars that a Bit
Patel stole for gambling. You guys,

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remember we talked about this story a
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Bit Patel and bezzle more than twenty
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gambling. The Jaguars are now taking
gutsy to the next level. According to

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ESPN dot com, the Jags vest
FanDuel to reimburse some or all of the

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money that Patel stole on A source
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an article that contained no byline that
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in the NFL regarding a settlement.
Our Vanduel's attitude is it got the money

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fair and clear. That's not their
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you, it doesn't feel like it
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card system that allowed Petel to steal
the money. The idea whether the entity

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who received the stole of money for
gambling or cars or booze or whatever it

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has pay it back is ludicrous.
It's possible. Jags think FanDuel can be

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squeezed into doing it given the importance
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it's another example of the league's decision
to flip the customers always right on

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its head. The league has no
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millions or billions for more and more
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It'll be interesting to see how far
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developed obviously an addiction. Instead of
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either Jacks negligence and enabled them to
steal, and the Jags in the NFL

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should take a step back and ask
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created with the systems that they have
created. Do you think fan duels should

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have to pay back the twenty million
dollars that mean, to be honest with

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you, they didn't have anything to
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I don't think they should because they
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end of what we would call a
business transaction. Now here's where the dilemma

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starts, because the NFL is partners
with FANDU as well as other some other

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sportsbook agencies. Now, this doesn't
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So my solution would be come to
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to detune the twenty million dollars,
because how is it that the Jags somehow

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overlooked this twenty million dollars and all
other funds going out of the door,

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So they have some culpability to as
well. Yeah, I don't think the

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FanDuel's responsibility should be refund that.
I think the other question is how much

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did amit Ptel win back from them? We know how much he lost.

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How much did he win back from
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case were, they had to refund
the money, shouldn't that be credited against

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us since they paid out on the
Well, this is why you come up

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with the settlement what he lost versus
what he won, which apparently was not

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much but the world's worst gambling Okay, Well but then wow, then he

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really put himself in somewhat of a
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this is something that the league is
going to have to fix out, find

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a way to figure out, because
this is one of their partners. Well,

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All right, kay, welcome back pret

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Broncos cut for you tonight. Ben's
with all Bran, Nick Ferguson, Grant

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Smith and I'm happy to be back
with you from mobile personally keeping an eye

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on this about the Creighton game,
mostly from my wallet as always. I

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mean, why would I not.
That's an interesting conversations got there and some

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stuff came across I think social media
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of these is coaches in college football
bolting for the NFL. And we saw

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at Boston College Halfney headed the Green
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Chargers. And I'll say this,
this is a conversation I've had multiple times

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over and they all say the exact
same thing. Coaching college football, being

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a head coaching college football is not
fun anymore. You're not a coach.

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raiser, and you are recruiting and
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has made it incredibly difficult. It's
about money and who can pay the largest

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sums to the right people to come
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think a guy like Deon Sanders has
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the most money, but they've got
the right sales pitch and they got the

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right environment. But you look at
guys, I mean Nick Saban retired,

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We're talking about guys jumping ship to
the NFL, and and every coach that

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I thought to you says, it's
just not fun. It's not fun coaching

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college football anymore. It's a wildly
different landscape. Some guys have adapted to

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it, but a lot of them
haven't that. A lot of them are

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looking for parachutes to the NFL because
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collegiate level when it comes to coaching
G five programs without the cash to be

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able to bring NIL guys in on
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things really difficult for a lot of
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some talented coaches on the collegiate side
of things, and you hit the nail

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on the head when you look at
Dion And this is why last year,

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in his first year, he took
a lot of straits from a lot of

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coaches criticizing him because well, why
is it that CEU, a program that

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hadn't done that well, was receiving
a lot of praise. I mean,

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you got Amazon Prime from Prime Time
and then you know things that are happening

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with his sons and the notoriety that
comes along with that, and some coaches

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are realizing, one they can't compete
with that because they don't have that prime

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coach, prime type personality. Then
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of it. Like when you think
about Jeff Hafley leaving Boston College after being

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at Ohio State and leaving Ohio State
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there's the money aspect. I mean, yeah, every single year you're

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trying to make your team competitive.
You go out and you recruit, and

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you think that you have just as
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other collegiate coaches to get a lot
of these kids decide and you realize,

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hey, man, we can't bring
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were in the ACC, but we
can't bring in ni own money like Dabbo

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Sweeney. We can't do what Nick
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this is kind of a situation that
caused him to Nick sabments are just kind

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of abruptly retire. But think about
that conversation that's taking place now with Chip

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Kelly, the whispers that Chip Kelly
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their office at Coordinating. You're like, well, how does that make sense?

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Wouldn't that be kind of like a
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coach at UCLA in Los Angeles to
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but I mean, flip side of
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I mean, you're a coaching football
in college, are you? I

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mean you spent as a head coach. You spend so much time as a

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figurehead. There's donors to glad hands, you got dinners to go to television

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appearances. As an OC in the
NFL, man, you got to craft

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a game plan that week. So
as OC and NFL, you're not doing

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a lot of interviews. Now,
you may do that one weekly interview here

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that kind of like Joe Lombardi would
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everyone wants to talk to the head
coach after every single game. Yeah,

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that's one less worried so much off
your back. And if you're a Chip

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Kelly, if you if you know
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He hates it. He does.
He said, well, look, man,

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I've seen him do a couple of
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bad at it. He's comfortable,
but he hates doing them. And he's

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always hated doing them. It was
different when you're at Oregon and pre at

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il and you are flush with cash
and you're the flashy uniform school and yeah

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that coach that you get to UCLA
and it's a different ball game. You

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don't have that Nike anymore, you
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to you know, to do all
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the way, you've got to compete
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It's just different. And I think
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coaches are starting to realize like,
look, you know, if you're gonna

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be a head coach in college football, you gotta be a salesperson. You're

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not an ex as an old guy. You're not nitty grig getting your hands

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dirty coaching football, not as much
as you want to be. So well.

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Programs should do now instead of going
out getting I guess cover to high

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school coaches or coaches who were on
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coaches or officer coordinators. Instead of
doing that, what they should do is

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peruse the used car sells lots around
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they have to initially go out there, sell the program, sell the players,

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and procure nil money. Yes,
I mean, I'm not saying you

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need to go out and hire Mary
Kay ash or Mary Kay Cosmetics. I'm

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not saying, you know, I'm
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that you know that that that you've
got to go out there and you've got

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to find a way to market,
and the head coach has got to be

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a marketing person, you know.
I mean, it's one of those things

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that in addition to selling the program, you've got to rerecruit your roster year

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after you You've got to say,
hey, look, everybody's got money.

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Why Why is the grass greener here? And your offensive cordator and defensive coordinator

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are likely doing the most of the
coaching for you. Aw, this is

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crazy. This could turn the tables
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especially with the College Football Bowl commit
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We can see more coaches deciding,
you know what, enough is enough and

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they're trying to get back into the
pro. And I'll tell you what we're

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talking about right now. It is
definitely true. Right, I'm not going

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to tell you. The coach that
I spoke to like two days ago,

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well, we were just having with
regular conversation, how your family doing,

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whatever, and he said to me, just randomly, out of the blue,

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you know what, I got to
get to the NFL. And I'm

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like, you know why you got
to get to the NFL because that's kind

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of a dream job, well partially
being a dream job. But he's like,

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college football is killing him. Yeah, not literally, but figuratively,

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it's killing him because there's so many
factors that you have to deal with now

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that you really don't have to deal
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and then I think that's it.
I mean, you look at you know,

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you talk to these guys and they're
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They're t I got to get to
the league. I gotta get out of

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this man. This is this is
I got a twenty hour a day grind

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where I'm trying to try to sun. And I'm not saying everybody used to

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be Alma Wheeler. You know,
And for those of you who don't know

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that is that's the guy who coined
celvices. Will not stake, But I

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mean it's it is a tough environment
now that I think a lot of hardcore

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football people don't understand how to navigate
that landscape like they used to just five

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years ago. The transfer portal has
exploded, NIL has exploded, and I

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think there are guys who are struggling
to adapt to that that would otherwise be

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great coaches. I also think that
there are guys like Athlete who want to

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coach football and don't want to be
knee deep in Donor dinners every night,

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cold calling recruits and trying to sell
them on coming to my program. How

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you sell in Boston College? Nowadays? You can start here. I mean

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you can start a lot of places. Yeah, well, but you can

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start a lot of places, and
you start by saying, look, you

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can come here. You can play
right right away. If the NFL is

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part of your journey where you want
to get to, we can help you

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get to because we play in the
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be considered one of the top teams, but with your assistance, that can

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get us there. But our games
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more, that's more visibility for you. Now you can choose to go to

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go out west and go to one
of those schools, but now you have

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to sit for two years and there's
a possibility that your NIO money can increase.

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Whether it be like some of the
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but they would be a lot better
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But if you're BC, which by
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emission rate and you have to have
a three nine nine GPA to get in,

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You can start here and then you're
gonna transfer. What are we a feeder

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school for a We're gonna become a
minor league school, And man, do

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you want to be that head coaching? No? You know you don't want

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to. But once again, we
got to face the facts of where college

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football is right now. It's you
either bear part of the game or watch

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other people step over you. Now, if for some reason you perceived as

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being somewhat of that bridge school,
that okay, well we're going to we're

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your starter school. We're gonna put
all the hard work in, we're gonna

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develop you for you to go somewhere
else. Hey man, that's just kind

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of part for the course. But
that's where college football is at this particular

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moment. Yeah, I mean there
are schools that have recognized or been ahead

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of the curve in terms of how
to deal with with with some of these

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things. Like, for instance,
Arkansas State a few years back, they

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realized that we are a feeder school, right right, They realized this and

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that we're not a major program,
and we have some options in terms of

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how to make money to get us
there. We know where we want to

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be, but we know we aren't
there. And this was after Steve Roberts

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was the coach there from two thousand
two to two twenty ten and they went

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thirty five and sixty three. So
they took a chance on a guy named

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Hugh Freeze, and they said,
you, if you can give us a

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year, give us two years,
whatever, we'll put in a buyout here,

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and we're going to continue to put
buyouts in these hot up and coming

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offensive coordinators and give ourselves a chance
to make money on coaching contracts in an

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effort to build our program where we
want to go. He Freez gave him

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one year, they went, he
went ten to two, and then of

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course he got hired. So they
decided to do it again and take another

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chance on a guy named Gus Malsan. Malzon went nine to three. So

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they decided to do it again with
a guy named Brian Harson. Harson,

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of course ended up getting the Auburn
job after then then they did it with

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Blake Anderson. Blake Anderson was there
for six years, and then they did

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it again this past year with Butch
Jones tried to give it, you know.

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And so what they did was they
were ahead of the curve. They

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said, look, we've got these
coaches, we're gonna put max buyouts in

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here and have these schools that want
to get these guys. We'll give them

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a head coaching experience. We'll get
the money and we'll be able to build

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up our program over the years to
become that. But nobody, nobody has

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a plan for that with nil and
how to do any of this stuff.

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Now, it's just a it's just
a free for all. There's chum in

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the water that haves spend more money
to get the get the players they want.

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Everybody else is settling for what's the
table scraps. But this is why

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a lot more coaches, better better, phrase will end up making that jump.

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Like we've seen it in basketball college
basketball for a while, the one

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and done right. We could even
see that with college coaches because every coach

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is looking for that next opportunity to
basically set their their families up and on

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the service. I know a lot
of you know, college athletes get mad,

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and you know members of them,
media criticize them, but I understand

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that we're all in that right race
of life and we're trying to find a

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way to better our families position financially. So I get it. So there

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has to be something in place.
And I still am a fan of players

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get paid for their production because the
NCAA and a lot of high high profile

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programs have been doing that for years. But it's time for regulations. It

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has to be regulated in some way
because if not, we could see a

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large influx of quality college coaches trying
to make that jump to the NFL.

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And I know there's only thirty two
teams, right and not everyone's going to

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get a job, but it could
find a way a couple of years down

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the road end up hurting college football
as we know it. I think it's

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already hurting college football. The six
oh five says, what's so sad about

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NIL is designed to pay for name, image and likeness, but instead has

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become pay to play. Yes,
depending on what you ask. But this

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was a thing fifteen years ago when
you asked me should we pay players?

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And I'm like, well, no, unless you've got something that's set up,

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that's structured, because otherwise what you're
gonna have is just wild free for

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all. And then you've got universities
like Tennessee, you were getting dings because

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they're exploiting the edges of this,
and that's what everybod's gonna do. They're

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gonnaxploit the out of it until you
get a standardizedetting. If you don't have

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a standardized way to do this and
there's no way at all. And I

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said, back then, what's to
stop t Boone Pickens at the time,

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who was living from saying, Hey, you come play at Oklahoma State,

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and I guarantee you're gonna get commercials
advertising for VP Capital and I'm gonna I'll

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pay you more than anybody else can
you get. We'll get Weizure nil to

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endorse BP Capital, which you know, I mean what eighteen year old is

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even knows what that is. And
that was gonna be the thing. You're

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going to have wealthy donor types that
are going to come in and buy the

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best players, and that was gonna
be it. Well, people started preparing

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for it back then, and you
look at the schools that have the money

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to do this stuff now, and
those kinds of schools that have massive amounts,

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they've been prepping for it for years. They got ahead of the curve,

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and it would be hard to compete
with schools with like Texas Longhorns.

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The alumni have a deep pockets,
they have a lot of oil money,

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and I knew that it had the
petition to kind of get out in the

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hand. When you know that the
Longhorns have their own network, they don't

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need ESPN or anyone else. They
do their own stuff in the house and

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that takes a substantial amount of money
to be able to do that. And

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with that being said, you were
able to hire some of the best trainers,

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best nutrition is offer kids a great
college atmosphere and lifestyle and Austin.

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So I was like, well,
can you really compete with that? And

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coaches are starting to realize, like, look, man, I'm not set

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up to compete with those schools now. I thought, based on our roster

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we were set to compete on the
field, and that could be true,

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right, but set to compete financially. That's where things are changing for the

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words for a lot of coaches,
and that's why as a head coach you're

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more of a fundraiser than anything else
at this point. By the way,

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Tennessee has the largest NIL Aspire Sports
Group. Tennessee is the largest clear number

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one ATIL in terms of funding.
If I told you that Texas was number

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nine overall, would you believe that? No, they are now the number

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nine? Ye give me the top
five. John Ruiz of Miami is the

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second largest NIL person a and m
is number three with the fun Division,

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Street and Oregon is number four,
Gator Collective obviously Florida number five, Boulevard

501
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LLC at USC is number six,
The Foundation at Ohio State is number seven,

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the Mattador Club at Texas Tech is
number eight, and then Clarkfield Collective

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at Texas number nine. Mamma's tenth, by the way, with high tight

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traditions. Listening to you right off
those names, I think of the first

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name that came to me, like
a couple like Goldman tax right, So

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I to say, you know what, they make us money over there,

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right, how about we give out
money to make money as well that we

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can see, you know, big
conglomerate type companies digging into nils because it's

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a lucrative opportunity for them as well. I agree. I just like I

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look at this and it's it is
a It is an interesting it is an

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interesting setup because you know, for
years I was like, man, it's

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just gonna be the people who are
set up to have the most money to

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pay the most place. Is what's
going to happen? And we're here.

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I also three or four years ago, I said, you know what,

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we're getting to the point where as
soon as we start paying, we're going

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to have kids trying to decide whether
or not they need to stay in school

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for the money, and we're here
when you were stayed in school for the

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money, he knew he wasn't going
to be drafting the first two rounds when

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you were stayed in school for the
money. I never thought we would get

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to a point where that would be
part of the conversation because most kids,

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they get basketball. And John Kyla
Pyrie, what what what? What would

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he always say? And wiz model, he's his job was to get players

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to the NBA one and done.
And then now you think about it,

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if John Wall was still playing at
Kentucky, Nah, I'm good, I'll

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see you down the road. Inverse, thinking, especially in college basketball,

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how long can I keep these guys
here with your money in order to be

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a COMPETI and you know what,
think about it. Here is the problem,

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like marsh Maddness is coming up up
soon, and people would get upset

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because you didn't have any more of
those kind of dynasty teams anymore because guys

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were leaving to go to the NBA. For coaches, this may be the

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coach's dream from a basketball standpoint,
they can keep their core guys together and

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make these wrong runs. It's good
to have our core back together. Roccos

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Country. The night rolls on after
this

