1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:06,559 Hello, ladies, gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Keepers podcast. 2 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:11,359 I am the taylor Field and I'm joined by I am the last of the 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:19,199 haws Kerle Patzer. I yes, and if you haven't guessed by those nicknames, 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,640 we are here continuing our long and our jewest trek into the Halo season 5 00:00:24,679 --> 00:00:28,120 two spoilers of you. It feels long, It truly feels long. I 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,719 agree with that statement. Yeah. So we've done the first four episodes, 7 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:34,439 and we did all season one, so you can go back, you can 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,320 tune into all that Halo greatness that we talk about and catch up or yeah, 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,320 if you're following along with us so far, Yeah, we're going to 10 00:00:41,359 --> 00:00:48,280 get into episode five before we get into that crazy I swear it was five 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,039 five it's five. Oh my god, you're telling me have three more of 12 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:54,479 these? Got three more? Which is like, what are they? What 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:01:00,119 are they gonna do? Uh? But yes, you can find us with 14 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:02,920 your interconnection in the search bar. Geek Verse. Dot c A is their 15 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,439 home base, Keepers cast, our Twitter, geek verses, our Facebook. 16 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:08,840 You can also support us on Patreon, where you can get ad free early 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,040 episodes and content there. And I mean speaking of Patreon. Thank you to 18 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:17,280 our Patreon producers Aaron Braden, aplel of Darkness, Jack, Grand MUDs, 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,680 Sam and t fucking Money. These fine folks just know, they just know 20 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:23,599 what they know what they need to do, and they're doing it. And 21 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,760 we can't thank you enough for just doing what you're doing. So what else 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,599 have we got? We got Dune review, we just didn't do part two. 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,879 Actually, yeah, that's that's now live on the feeds. We got 24 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,359 tons of retros popping off if you are on Patreon, like Pine of the 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,159 Apes, Mad Max retros and what a Twilight retro that popped on there too. 26 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:47,879 What else is cook on you guys? Side Questions always did a great 27 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:53,879 side quest episode with Dylan recently that was fun. Yep. I think we 28 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,760 have a few Golden Geek stuff that's gonna be kind of coming around the corner 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,480 soon. Some results made you're cooking, so, I mean, if you've 30 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:05,560 been following it, I think I'm not sure now. So voting is on 31 00:02:05,599 --> 00:02:07,560 now, Yes, you got to get your votes in. I think Patron's 32 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:12,439 gotta get their votes in because it's a patron thing, right, the patre 33 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:16,000 But I also have to get my votes in personally so as well. Yes, 34 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,840 but that all said without further idea, let's let's just talk about on 35 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:30,400 Spoilers for this episode were able to confirm Kirkland was this five episode five? 36 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:32,199 Yes, okay, which kind of blows my mind because it feels like we've 37 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,759 been watching this for years, like just the second season, not even not 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,199 even the show in general just really very very low does so who who wants 39 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,960 to take it first? I mean, yeah, I'll just keep going. 40 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,879 I feel like the fact that you that you said that this was episode five 41 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,960 and it felt like episode six just says a lot to me for this, 42 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,840 for the show in general, and especially this episode, I felt like a 43 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,439 lot just does not happen. There is a couple things that I'll pull out 44 00:03:01,439 --> 00:03:05,360 that I found a little bit interesting, But it was just kind of funny 45 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,560 while I was watching it, because it's like I really have to sift through 46 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:12,360 this season to like pluck out some some little nuggets of gold. And they're 47 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,400 not big nuggets, you know, they're not They're not big, big golden 48 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:17,680 nuggets, but they're they're in there. Like there is some good moments, 49 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:23,280 I think, and some good aspects pulled from the Haloh sorry. The Halo 50 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:25,879 game series, and like we've already mentioned that throughout these reviews that we've been 51 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,840 doing, where like a lot of the like the Covenant stuff is appealing, 52 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:32,199 Like a lot of the visuals do look great in certain moments, but this 53 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:37,240 story that they're doing with master Chief, with Soren and his wife and the 54 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:40,439 kid, like I just do not care about this at all, and like 55 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:45,080 it's it's I don't know it. It's one thing for deviating from the game, 56 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,599 I think, but also just making these characters just not interesting, Like 57 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:51,080 this is just not that interesting of a show in general for me, not 58 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,120 even just because it is deviating from the Halo story that at least I somewhat 59 00:03:54,199 --> 00:04:00,879 understand. But I don't know. I think we're this far in. But 60 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,520 I will say while I was watching the show, I'm just like I kind 61 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,240 of hope this just fizzles out and we don't have to keep doing these reviews, 62 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,560 like I like talking about with you guys, But it's like I just 63 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,319 I'm watching this at the show and I'm just not loving it. And I'm 64 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,479 just it's an hour long. It's an hour long episode, Like I kind 65 00:04:14,479 --> 00:04:16,480 of wish it was a little bit shorter maybe, but uh yeah, I'm 66 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:21,560 really not not loving it too much and not a lot of like positives on 67 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,399 the horizon at least what's hinted at by the end of this episode for me 68 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,519 personally. But I don't know, maybe you guys are different. No, 69 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:35,079 definitely not. Yeah. This, uh, this is like one of the 70 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,319 dullest hours of TV. I think I've ever seen in my life. This 71 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,480 episode fucking sucks. I was trying to soften the blow. I was trying 72 00:04:42,519 --> 00:04:46,360 to soften the blow a little bit. This episode is so boring. It's 73 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,560 weird. It's like this in theory, this kind of episode should be fun, 74 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,319 not necessarily the content, but just like maybe this is slightly spoilers, 75 00:04:55,319 --> 00:04:58,120 but like a lot of characters kind of reconnecting and kind of you kind of 76 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,839 have like all the most of the characters in the show like kind of together, 77 00:05:00,519 --> 00:05:04,800 but none of these moments like feel earned or interesting or like certain characters 78 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,839 who haven't seen each other in like months potentially, and it just seems like 79 00:05:08,879 --> 00:05:12,800 they don't even notice that this person showed up. It's like it's so weird, 80 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,959 like there's just no I don't know, there's I guess I just I 81 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,639 don't have a lot of investment in a lot of these characters, and so 82 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,399 that hurts it. But I think the main thing is, once again, 83 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:26,959 just our our main character is so dull, so like when he just doesn't 84 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,920 react when he sees people or doesn't react when anything happens, it's hard for 85 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:32,720 me to feel too invested. And then yeah, what you're saying there, 86 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:36,720 like Soren and Layla and their storyline trying to find their son in this episode 87 00:05:36,759 --> 00:05:42,480 is like what are we doing? Like we spend so much time in this 88 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,519 episode of them just talking and like grilling random people trying to find out where 89 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:48,959 their son is. It's like who cares about any of this? Uh? 90 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:53,839 And it doesn't even seem like, oh, this is some big consequence because 91 00:05:53,879 --> 00:05:57,319 of some big character choice in an earlier episode. It was just like, 92 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,839 I don't know. Leila was like, hey, Kwan, can you like 93 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,160 take care my kid? And she's like yeah, he's like on this chip 94 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,800 and then this is like that leads to this, like it's so uninteresting. 95 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,319 So yeah, I don't know. We go to a new planet, I 96 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:11,439 guess, but it just seems like, I don't know, somewhere like the 97 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:15,959 Midwest US, Usa, like just seems pretty boring stuff here. So, 98 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,639 oh my god, I really don't have much to say on this episode, 99 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,279 to be honest, So even when we get into the spoilers, I don't 100 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,600 think there's a whole lot for me to break down here. This was a 101 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:28,720 This is a real drag drag of an hour. It's be the shortest review 102 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:35,800 we've ever done. Could be. So I I watched this episode, and 103 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,360 do you watch this at midnight? I gotta ask. I watched. I 104 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:42,839 say, while I was watching this, I was picturing where you were at 105 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,240 midnight just watching this and just like put yourself through that. That's like torture. 106 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,560 The high of Dune just kind of ruined. Well, I did Dune 107 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:57,240 one and then that ended right at midnight, and so I popped in, 108 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:02,480 popped in the Halo, and it's, uh yeah, it's I'm convinced, 109 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,759 Like I did. I finished the episode that I know, I passed out 110 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,800 halfway through because it was fucking terrible. I picked it up the next day 111 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:13,680 and finished it the next day. So this, like I I remember, 112 00:07:13,839 --> 00:07:16,800 just like kind of like I mean, I I if you if you're gonna 113 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,480 call me out for falling asleep and not like paying attention to this episode, 114 00:07:20,519 --> 00:07:24,920 like you can't, because I went back and made sure I honed in over 115 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:27,279 the certain scenes. Because when I was watching at the night of like, 116 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:30,240 I was like falling asleep, but I heard I heard the shittiest fucking dialogue. 117 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:34,199 I just added to my notes like, but I'm still like falling asleep, 118 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:36,680 but I was still cool here. I'm aware of what was going on. 119 00:07:36,759 --> 00:07:41,759 And this episode was just horrible. It's horrible, and I'm convinced. 120 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,000 I am fucking convinced with what they did in this episode that these showrunners literally 121 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:50,079 went on YouTube and said, uh, Halo in five minutes, and they 122 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:55,439 just got the whole fucking download log of whatever they say in this Halo in 123 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,120 five minutes video, Like, Okay, there's our script. We're gonna Oh 124 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,360 this is good stuff. Let's fucking use this and put that into this TV 125 00:08:01,399 --> 00:08:03,480 show. Oh that's fucking great. And that's all they did. Because they 126 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:09,839 are meshing together so many things in this episode, and this one big thing 127 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,759 I feel like that they pulled is stemming from one of the books. And 128 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,439 it's not a they're all Halo books, but this book in particular is not 129 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:26,920 really affiliated with the master Chief like Halo. Sorry, they're also really changing 130 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,399 the lore now I going forward, I would not be surprised if the heck, 131 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:33,519 we don't even get the flood, they just completely change that into some 132 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:37,360 other fucked up piece of bullshit that I don't want in this universe. And 133 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:45,279 I I understand, like if we reviewed Avatar Last Airbender, and I understand 134 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,519 that there's a certain point here where people that really really like that show, 135 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,039 not all of all of them are like super stoked on the live action show. 136 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:54,200 They they love the anime, but they're all type on the live action 137 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,879 show. And I had to think, Okay, maybe that's the case here 138 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:00,960 because I keep seeing people genuinely saying, oh, this was the best episode 139 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,519 of this season. Season two is just such a pick me up from season 140 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,960 one. Everyone's just raving, and I'm thinking, man, what the fuck 141 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,480 is wrong with these big episode? Yeah? Yeah, these comments are out 142 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:11,480 there, and I screened those fucking comments because I'm looking for people that are 143 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:16,240 like sharing my thoughts, and so I just see a lot of positive people 144 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,399 and like usually about like three positive comments to every one negative comments, and 145 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:24,360 that one negative comment I found one This guy was like, imagine just being 146 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,799 finding this perfect recipe. You've perfected this fucking recipe. It's delicious, this 147 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,679 divine. You love it, but all of a sudden you decide to change 148 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,000 it. You decide to oversalt it and just fuck it up so bad that 149 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:41,519 people puke. And I'm thinking, this is a good analogy. That's my 150 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:46,960 rant. So I did not like this episode? Oh my god? Is 151 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,679 there anything else you guys wanted to I just picture you, like seeing like 152 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,639 a positive comment, just getting so mad, like fuck these fucking motherfuckers. 153 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:56,480 You just like go on their profile that you like, start stalking them. 154 00:09:56,519 --> 00:10:00,559 You're just so mad that they like this show's started messaging. Do you do 155 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,840 this at like one am too? Like right after the episode, you just 156 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,360 go in the forums and you just stay up for hours. I mean I 157 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:11,120 didn't this time, but you usually Usually when I'm going into work the next 158 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,759 day, I'll go on to like Reddit and I just I'll type, I 159 00:10:13,799 --> 00:10:20,039 will specifically type in why do people hate the Halos Show? And I'll get 160 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,720 all these different threads that people are just like wow, railing on it and 161 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,240 all that kind of stuff. So nice, Yeah, anything else before we 162 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:33,559 get into spoilers? Yeah, let's do it. Let's jump in. We 163 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,720 went down to our first ad break and then we are going to get into 164 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,559 these spoilers. We'll be right back and we are back. So do you 165 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,320 guys have any just bones to pick that you want to start with? Well, 166 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,759 I'll pick up I'll pick a bone. And this is a bone that 167 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:54,120 I'm picking with the subscription service of Paramount as well as is that the subtitles 168 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,200 are so janky. Oh yes, that happened with me. They were like 169 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,360 super out of sync. Well that, but also like I don't use subtitles 170 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:07,240 in general, like ever, so when you're watching the show when fucking McKee 171 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:11,320 is talking to the arbiter, like, none of that has any subtitle to 172 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,200 it. So it's like, am I supposed to know this language speak saying 173 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,600 helium? No? I really don't go in this setting. And then yeah, 174 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,799 and then it's way like off sync. Yeah, and then the scene's 175 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:26,399 over, so I'm like, okay, I'll turn the subtitles log down like 176 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,840 subtitles and then like comes back later and there's more and it's just like god, 177 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,600 damn this, Like how do they not have subtitles on this alien dialogue 178 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,000 sequence? By default? It's so dumb. It's it's weird too, because, 179 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:39,519 like you said, like sometimes it is default, but other times it's 180 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,120 not. And I'm one that I always have subtitles on. I just I 181 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,759 don't know, I'm probably just deaf. I feel like I have to to 182 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:50,399 turn them on too able to digest everything that they say. But it was 183 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,639 good. It was SYNCD until they were speaking, sanging heally, and then 184 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,279 it would like be totally off. And then I thought that the arbiter was 185 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:00,000 saying what McKee was saying. And I'm like, this doesn't make any sen 186 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,679 because like one person is like looking at another character but not talking, but 187 00:12:03,759 --> 00:12:05,000 like words are coming out. Like it was just so strange. So then 188 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,440 I turned it off and then like the su like the regular subtitles popped on 189 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:11,360 and they were proper, and then I had like turned them back on. 190 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:15,279 It was it was annoying. So yes, I'm glad you brought that up, 191 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,039 Taylor, are you subtitle by default? User? I In the last 192 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:24,840 few months, I've become a gig as a father. That's that's what drove 193 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,960 my same with Travis. I think that's what he said. Yeah, I 194 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,480 honestly I can't just I like the anime, you know, and then I 195 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,759 want to usually mention while I'm watching stuff, so it's like I'm crunching sol 196 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:41,039 out. I don't hear what they say. I can't when you're even in 197 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:43,360 the movie theater. I too, I just feel where are my subtitles, 198 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:50,799 Like I need this, especially in Dune when they're especially like any any Nolan 199 00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:54,720 movie, like, please give me subtitles the goddamn But Taylor, with that, 200 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,279 those various scenes with McKee and Arbiter, like, is that stuff where 201 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,480 you feel like they're deviating from source material, like changing the narrative or is 202 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:09,759 that more with other stuff that that? I mean McKee alone is just a 203 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,519 complete deviation from anything that's going on with this story. But I've never been 204 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,240 a character like that and like similar type role in the stories. No, 205 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:22,600 there's been no human not I mean maybe later on, but as far as 206 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:28,320 I know at this point in time, humanity literally being an like the Covenant's 207 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,960 goal is extinction of humanity. But here they go. They got this one 208 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:33,600 human that can activate fore Runner tech, and they've taken her under their wing. 209 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,559 All humans are able to operate for Munner text, So is the fact 210 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:43,919 that they only have select humans that have this capability just baffles me. So 211 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,559 like you you even see it, Like there's a point when the Covenant need 212 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:52,000 to activate some fore Runner tech and they just capture human and just make the 213 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:56,000 human do it. But in this case, no, they've just taken a 214 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,639 child, a human child, and raised them. Razor is their their own 215 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,679 kind of It's just it's fucked up. They don't need to do this. 216 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:07,679 So the the the idea though, of the Arbiter and her, and the 217 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:09,000 Arbiter kind of saying like, hey, okay, we're gonna we're gonna go 218 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:16,039 out of here because this this fucking what is an Apple Apple vision pro fucking 219 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,639 plays off the Halo ring and all of a sudden, the Arbiter is like 220 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,840 flabbergasted and decides like, okay, they're gonna come after us, and they 221 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:28,600 bounce out of High Charity. Seeing High Charity and the Covenant armada was wickedly 222 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:31,759 cool. I really thought that was gorgeous. But them just sitting to bounce 223 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:37,039 out now and and going, I'm assuming get one of the other see the 224 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:39,960 other artifact and try to find the Halo. It's just they've they've changed the 225 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:45,480 dynamic of finding the Halo so much. Humanity found it by accident, and 226 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:48,919 the Covenant found the Halo because they followed Humanity and their ships are always able 227 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,840 to slip space jump faster than human ships, so they technically got to the 228 00:14:52,879 --> 00:15:01,639 Halo just like within milliseconds before Humanity kind of landed there. And so that's 229 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:03,519 that's how that all those all those events kind of unfold. But in this 230 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:07,360 you have Halsey saying like, you'll lead us to the Halo stuff like this, 231 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,879 I'm thinking, what the fuck is it? Like what is this? 232 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,440 What is this with John like some kind of they're treating him like a prophet, 233 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,559 like them to the Halo. It's just that's that's not how that works. 234 00:15:18,879 --> 00:15:24,600 It's it's not the story. Yeah, and like what is what do 235 00:15:24,679 --> 00:15:28,720 we gain from doing that storyline instead? And it doesn't. It's not like 236 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:31,360 that's Lady and some really interesting stuff on its own either. So it's deviating 237 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:37,519 for like I don't know, no noticeable purpose. Yeah, they're they're they're 238 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:43,200 turning John one one seven into the leson al Gayib. It just feels like 239 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:48,759 the Messiah the people, and it just seems like they, yeah, well 240 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:50,639 we'll get to Pablo I guess, but just for McKee and and the Forerunner 241 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:54,600 stuff. But uh, that storyline, I feel like at first I was 242 00:15:54,639 --> 00:16:00,759 liking the dynamic of the Arbiter and her just being certain people I guess that 243 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:06,480 are kind of outcasts on like the like like the whole Covenant scale, because 244 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,639 we were kind of asking those questions last time that we saw the Arbiter, 245 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,039 right, like, is this Arbiter different than kind of how because what was 246 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,320 you Taylor that was saying that it used to be more of a religious type 247 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,240 thing where it eventually became a like a punishment type role or has that just 248 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:26,000 always been the case that they just get sent on these suicide missions to to 249 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,679 reclaim their honor from from what I remember, and my memory does not serve 250 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:33,879 me well these days. So the Arbiter was originally a like a very profound 251 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:37,840 and esteem position amongst the saying heally and the elites, right, and then 252 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,039 when the Covenant kind of came in that that position kind of got warped and 253 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,440 turned into something as so like dishonorable. Then you take on the title of 254 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,399 the mantle of Arbiter and you go on these perilous missions. Okay, because 255 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:53,600 it's kind of seen through their dialogue that that was a similar type situation that's 256 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:56,480 going on right now. Right, Like he was mentioning that they need to 257 00:16:56,519 --> 00:17:02,519 get this for McKee's sake to like just not be killed. I guess by 258 00:17:02,559 --> 00:17:07,039 the what are they called the hierarchs, and then for the arbiter is talking 259 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:11,079 about like regaining it's not necessarily regaining his armor that I said, but something 260 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:15,160 along those lines. So I was somewhat interested in that. But I think 261 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:18,440 I was just confused when, like you said, the Apple Vision pro pops 262 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:22,160 up and it's just like a like a like an ad pop up for Halo, 263 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:26,119 and they're just like, oh, let's just go there, and then 264 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,480 uh, Cortana's just standing there, and I felt like I like missed something. 265 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:32,000 I'm like, I guess it was just Cortana that like played that in 266 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:36,079 that moment. She's a covenant now save McKee. Yeah, Like I was 267 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,079 kind of confused about you they're using Cortana to try and track down John though, 268 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,079 right that's like I'm guessing that's a step they need to do. I 269 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,119 don't know where that falls into the Halo part of it, but they just 270 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:52,480 want to kill him. Essentially right killed John. I think, so they 271 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:55,920 keep the demon unless I'm missing something. It seems like that's what the Arbiter 272 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,079 wants. And then mckey's yeah, I don't know, she's still in love 273 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,240 with those chees. Yeah, oh yeah, she can't forget those cheeks that 274 00:18:02,319 --> 00:18:07,079 one faithful night. Yeah. Mckey's motivations here, I don't know, like, 275 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,799 yeah, she called the arbiter off, and the arbiter didn't end up 276 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:14,480 killing John. He he listens. So I don't really know, because if 277 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,279 they're trying to find John, I mean, they had him there, but 278 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:19,559 I feel like now they're I feel like now they're actually actively trying to find 279 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:23,559 the Halo. I think that's what their their goal is. And so even 280 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:26,160 at this point, Kortana was supposed to be with them and oh yeah, 281 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:32,240 fucking oh my god, Admiral Keys, So I guess that death really did 282 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:36,000 happen because they kind of touched him on it. So yeah, now that 283 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,640 that that fallout there is super shitty because Chief, Keys, Kurtana all together 284 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:45,359 they arrive at Halo, but now we have Keys is fucking dead, Kortana's 285 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,880 a covenant worker now, and Chief is in butt fuck nowhere wearing his fucking 286 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:56,640 snow shoes and snow hoodie and all that shit, Like geez, it's just 287 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:00,359 crazy. And Reaches, fuck Reaches. Everyone's just saying Reach is destroyed. 288 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,799 You're telling me this. I thought we're gonna have a whole other episode on 289 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,599 Reach doing it there. But I thought so too. But like they they 290 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,279 got rid of the suits budget so they could do all this other bullshit story. 291 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:15,720 They're officially gone. He established it. They're fully gone. I left 292 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:21,240 so hard when they had Soren's wife. I think they're just like going somewhere. 293 00:19:21,279 --> 00:19:25,279 And she's like, like the like we lost Reach, the city is 294 00:19:25,319 --> 00:19:27,559 gone, the planet is gone. It's like it's just such a jump from 295 00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:30,759 like one little settlement to just the whole planet. It's just fucking gone. 296 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:34,160 Like I was not expecting the next words out of her mouth to be go 297 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,799 from one city just fell to like literally the whole planet. It's like a 298 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:44,119 continent. Yeah, that last shot we got, Taylor, how would you 299 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,119 feel if if she found some like Hayabusu armor or something like that. I 300 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,839 mean, that would look pretty freaking sweet. I'd be down. But again, 301 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,039 what he's gonna We'll never wear the helmet, so it won't even matter. 302 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:03,359 Yeah, it's true. I can't remember where we're focusing. I guess 303 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,079 McKee forunner stuff, McKee the arbitrary. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess 304 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,720 this is the kind of the most exposition and kind of focus that we've had 305 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,440 with McKee. And and still I don't really understand fully what her goals are. 306 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,119 But I I just I don't. I'm not a fan of her as 307 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,359 a character. I think she's a good actress, I really do. I 308 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,519 think she's definitely delivering the intensity of this character. But I'm just not finding 309 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:30,880 that attraction to know more about what this character is going through and the tribulations 310 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,559 for this character at all. I don't care if they die, and I 311 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:40,279 I thought they were dead. So this is just a disappointment. I'm with 312 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,799 you on that. I don't think I have anything else on that kind of 313 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:51,599 storyline. Whoever you want. Uh, yeah, let's see what else happened 314 00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:53,480 in this episode. We so, yeah, we have that, like another 315 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,759 five ten minutes on Reach. What are the name of those big Covenant dudes 316 00:20:56,799 --> 00:21:03,319 again? Brutes? Brutes? Yeah, Gravity grab Hammer was exciting fight so 317 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,680 cool to see. Yeah, that was like it was well polished you know, 318 00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:11,119 like he looked really good. The grave hammer looked powerful. Have we 319 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,799 seen grab hammer yet? Yeah? In season one it was the last time 320 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:18,039 that they saw the Brutes, right, Like it was a similar type unit. 321 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,359 It was. It was similar because I think they when they in the 322 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,599 final battle and episode nine, I think the Brutes had a gravity hammer there. 323 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:30,200 But then also when Chief I think in the mid mid season battle, 324 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,519 that one brute like dropped out of the drop ship and like grabbed the forewinner 325 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:37,359 tech. Oh yeah, gravity hammer, So that's right, nice. Yeah, 326 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:40,799 yeah, I think the brute looked really really cool. It was an 327 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:45,240 intense fight scene and then he just got fucking gunned down by that gunship. 328 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,799 So that opening scene was actually that's where, like I I started watching just 329 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,720 that part like on my lunch break at work, and I was literally just 330 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,039 in the break room and I was just laughing my ass off and on just 331 00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:59,799 what I was seeing. It was mostly just because of like Pablo's reactions to 332 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:03,160 what was going on, because he was just so disoriented from getting just blindsided 333 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,200 by by that one that one elite or whoever shot him in the last episode. 334 00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:11,839 Uh, and he's just looking around. They had a lot of zoom 335 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,640 in shots like on his face, and it was just like this buffoon that 336 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,519 was just literally like dazed, and I'm like, there's my master chief. 337 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,720 That's John one one seven of those badass Spartan in existence, and he was 338 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:26,920 just so in shock and just not doing anything. I was just kind of 339 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,400 chuckling with that, and then I just could not believe Rizz's decision, and 340 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,920 like maybe I'm wrong here, and like the motivation of like Spartans collecting the 341 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,519 body of a fallen Spartan, but like the fact that they were like on 342 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:44,400 the evac trip or on on the on the EVACU Pelican or whatever, it 343 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:48,240 was like she just runs back out there. Everybody just waits for her, 344 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,640 so like she's literally delaying everyone else from escaping and just like putting everyone's lives 345 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,359 in jeopardy to grab this dead guy. And then she grabs him and just 346 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,680 gets shots herself. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Did 347 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,680 they killed two birds with one stone? I thought she was dead one hundred 348 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,880 percent yeah, And I was just chuckling. I'm like, I can't believe 349 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,559 that just happened, Like this is this is fucking Silver Team or whatever. 350 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:14,400 They're called this is the most badass eletes ever got master Chiefs just disoriented. 351 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,119 I don't know. It was just a really funny opening for me, even 352 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,039 though maybe it's supposed to be really intense and serious, and you know, 353 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,839 we talked about like the brute looked cool, but that was basically the last 354 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,640 shot. Also just kind of found it funny seeing Kwan with the with the 355 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,759 big mini gun type thing. It just was an interesting imagery amongst everything else 356 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:33,599 that was going on. And I'm just so shocked that, like Kwan is 357 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,680 kind of my favorite character I think right now going throughout this whole series, 358 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,599 and like season one, I just really did not care for that character at 359 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,000 all. It just goes to show maybe like where we are watching two seasons, 360 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,200 Kan Kwan ha is my is my most interesting character right now in this 361 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:55,279 Halo show. Unfortunately, I was definitely with you in the last episode or 362 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,640 maybe just two episodes ago. I think it was two episodes ago, Yeah, 363 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,240 but I was not digging what was going on with her character. In 364 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,400 this episode, we have those like prophet type people again the last of the 365 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,480 Haws, this whole like legacy thing going on. She's kind of tripping out 366 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,519 there. But I also just kind of found like did she know Vannik at 367 00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:18,440 all? Like why was she so gung ho on like need to bury I 368 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,200 need to bury this body, and I need to do it now. No 369 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,680 sense. Yeah, I felt like kind of weird. She couldn't bear Well 370 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,079 what did she say, Like, Oh, when I bury you, you're 371 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:30,440 gonna be everyone that's died. That's that's what you're gonna I think it's because 372 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,279 like she wasn't able to bury her family, maybe because Mondregal just got destroyed, 373 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:37,359 but I don't know, like yeah, like they don't really It's not 374 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,839 like they're pulling from some moment in season one. I guess maybe losing their 375 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,200 family, but like that's kind of a stretch for how much that should have 376 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:48,079 meant to her. I guess like she's like, no, we're fucking burying 377 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:52,000 this guy right here, and then like the Prophet people come around and she's 378 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:55,559 she's ready to start murdering them to give her the honor of burying Vannick. 379 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,039 Yeah, it was a whole This was just weird subplot and also like I 380 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,960 don't know, I I did you guys know find a weirdho just Chief and 381 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:11,200 her reconnecting after all the time, and there's just like you're awake. Yeah, 382 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:17,559 I definitely was like I I thought I had missed a scene amongst like 383 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:18,759 the two of them, because it just seemed like they had already had that 384 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:22,119 moment of like reconnection, like oh have you been, Like I haven't seen 385 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,440 you forever. It's just, oh, you're awake, you've been You've been 386 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,880 out for three days. And then like it just kept going like they haven't 387 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,359 seen each other since what was kind of a big moment I guess in the 388 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,079 last season just that whole he was forced to kill her and then and then 389 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,880 went against that and then just gives her to Soar and and that's that. 390 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,359 But they don't really they don't really put in effort to try and make that 391 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:48,480 moment special. Mm hmm, what's what's uh the whata you're just saying that, 392 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:53,720 Kirklud like you're you're awake, You're trying to cross the border right, 393 00:25:53,880 --> 00:26:03,359 walked into that push the Skyrim in show exactly, You're finally awake. Look 394 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:14,759 gear of Roar instead, You'll never get me. Oh je dragon God, 395 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:19,720 that game a lot. Oh my gosh, what you guys said about Quad 396 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,359 Uh, like I'm kind of back and forth. I don't. I don't 397 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,319 like the kind of things that are going on in this episode with her, 398 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,359 but there's a character I am liking where she's kind of transitioned from after that 399 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:40,759 first season. And yeah, I just I would have liked to had a 400 00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:47,880 little bit more between her and Uh and Chief and just the kind of engagement 401 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,000 I guess. But Chief is just he's such a brick wall. He doesn't 402 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,920 even he at times he doesn't emote and other times he really fucking emotes. 403 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,920 Yeah, he's just he's out to lunch. Even again, a little bit 404 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,160 more with Sora and and Qwan would have been nice because I can't even remember 405 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,759 if they've actually engaged and chatted in the season at all, So I think 406 00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:12,119 it's just their son Kessler and Kuan that we're talking not even so characters do 407 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,400 not need to be in that show, Sore and his wife. The Kessler 408 00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,720 like attachment, Like I don't know, Son doesn't even feel like like an 409 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,599 old Spartan or anything. It just seems like some dude that's just in the 410 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,640 show like to be in the show and have some weird sub family plot or 411 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,480 something along those lines. And I don't know. They keep trying to like 412 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,680 bring in that he has history, he grew up in like a damaged home, 413 00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,839 but like it just kind of seems separate to other spartan up upbringings. 414 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,720 Maybe I'm just I don't know, glossing over maybe more of the Hallsey connection 415 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:45,839 with him, but like we didn't really get much out of that at all, 416 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,480 even though they were supposed to be, you know, going together on 417 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:52,319 that previous adventure when they were escaping Reach. I guess that was and that's 418 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,799 the last episode, wasn't it right, Yeah, yeah, exactly, it 419 00:27:56,839 --> 00:28:00,440 doesn't matter anymore. No, it was so shallow. It's like I even, 420 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,519 well, I even have these characters, if you're not gonna put in 421 00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:06,559 a proper effort of like doing them justice, they just like I don't care 422 00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:08,119 if they find Kesler or anything. I don't care if that sounds cold harder. 423 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,599 It's just I'm so not interested in that in that story at all. 424 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,839 And when it's like a different boy than than Kesler, I'm like, oh 425 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,359 my god, we're gonna have to like dive deeper down this red sur I 426 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,319 wasn't expecting it. But like, like I said, like as soon as 427 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,240 he took the helmet off, I'm like, are you kidding me? We're 428 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,519 gonna have to like go into next season, like are they gonna find Kessler? 429 00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:30,960 Like I don't fucking care, bring me to the Halo, bring me 430 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,079 to like like master Chief back in his arm or oh my gosh, real 431 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,240 leaing off with Kai he's like joining Acresson or something like. I just I'm 432 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:44,759 not loving with the say about that. Uh. With Kessler, I immediately 433 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,799 knew when like he's running around and the helmet wasn't coming off right away, 434 00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:49,160 I'm like, oh, this is not the fucking same kid. And just 435 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,440 when the helmet came off first split second, the boy looked like he was 436 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,839 like a forty year old man. Like I agree. I think it's because 437 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,799 his head just seems so much larger than what Kesler's was. And in my 438 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,440 mind, I was like waiting to see canl I'm like, oh my god, 439 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:08,519 it's a man, mama, he like plays with it or something. 440 00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:15,079 It's just super fucked up. Oh my god, do you do you guys 441 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,480 feel like Layla and Sore and just have like zero chemistry. They do not 442 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:23,880 seem like a married couple, not at all yeah, no chemistry. I 443 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,559 totally agree. I feel it's just it's it's a weird thing. I've been 444 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:33,039 in very mean I'm sure we've all actually been in very serious situations with our 445 00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,359 with our snipping others, and just for one of them to say, like, 446 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,920 I want you to be sad because I'm sad, They're like, man, 447 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,160 what is this high school? The fuck is that bullshit? No, 448 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:45,200 like one of us, one of us is sad, the other person needs 449 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,599 to be strong and uplifting or whatever. And I feel like Sorel was doing 450 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,759 a good job at trying to you know, you gotta make the best of 451 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:52,680 the situation and you're gonna you're gonna still give it your all. It still 452 00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:56,359 was in a weird way that they he was doing it, but still and 453 00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:02,480 it's a cherry on fucking top fact that she just pulls her wig off, 454 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:04,960 and what we were complaining that maybe the wig should have came off. How 455 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,519 many episodes ago we didn't even know she had a wig, was walking around 456 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:12,599 like life and death situation and she has a good time to to toss this. 457 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,960 It's just fucking bullshit, like she could have got such an upper hand 458 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,680 sneaking around she's wearing her fucking high heels and fancy suit. We're talking about 459 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,160 how like, how like noticeable she is, like especially just amongst like the 460 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,880 the Ravagers or whatever the common folk were on that planet. She just she 461 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,400 stood out like a sore thumb, and she just kept the white wig that 462 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:40,400 we thought was just her hair. Like my gosh, yeah, I feel 463 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,640 like, I don't know, I see where you're coming from, Ted, 464 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:48,599 But I also feel like man Soorin is to weigh lighthearted about just everything going 465 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,279 on. We talked about that last episode, all these quips he was making 466 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:55,279 as fucking soldiers are dying at his feet and he's like, oh, I'll 467 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:57,359 take that, give me that sword. And I felt that same way when 468 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,799 they're chilling at the Star the episode when they're aut Reach and Layelah shows up 469 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:04,240 and he can see her in the ship and he's like, oh, I'm 470 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,720 not gonna hear the end of this. It's like, I don't know he 471 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240 would think someone would maybe wonder like, oh, I wonder where my son 472 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,759 is, Like I don't see my son. I hope he's okay, Like 473 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,559 you know, it's try and make sure she's safe and whatnot. But no, 474 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,559 he's just always equipping, and so I can understand the frustration when their 475 00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:25,680 son is literally missing on some alien planet and he's still just quipping the whole 476 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,799 time. So it is weird, Like, I don't really know, it's 477 00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:32,640 hard for me to just see what the purpose of Soreing is in season two. 478 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:37,000 Like season one, I guess I understand it more and season two it 479 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:40,519 just more seems like, well, he's an established character and uh, I 480 00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:41,880 guess we got to give him some contents. This is like what they're doing. 481 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,000 But I just feel like even personality wise, in terms of like the 482 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,440 more action heavy, like quipping guy, like I feel like Vannik could have 483 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,400 done that job just fine. I don't really feel like we need this extra 484 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,799 layer of sorein. He doesn't really bring a lot of interesting stuff with him. 485 00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:59,480 In terms of Leila and Kessler, who sorry, I don't care about 486 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,160 this kids, Like, I don't care if they find them. It's it's 487 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,599 just weird. And we spend so much time on that in this episode, 488 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,039 and as Kirklin said, like we're set up to spend even more time with 489 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:13,279 it in the next next week as well, So buckle up. I guess, 490 00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:19,240 yeah, Okay, these characters are just they're taking up too much screen 491 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:24,839 time from the actual important stuff that makes Halo Halo, and it's just not 492 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:30,599 this does not this is Yeah, this episode absolutely did not feel like a 493 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,559 episode of Halo, with the exception of I guess someone being called the Arbiter 494 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,279 and looking at a Halo so that one scene, I'll give it to them 495 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:42,359 that had Halo energy to it. But yeah, we were talking about Riz 496 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,640 earlier. So Riz took some heavy battle damage. Her face is like all 497 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,839 scratched up and messed up, and it seemed I don't know if she will 498 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,240 walk again on her own someday or if this is like a temporary thing, 499 00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:57,799 but it seems like she's ready to hang up her boots and quit and just 500 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,720 live on this place, which kind of surprising because she's been here for all 501 00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:05,559 of like four hours and she's like, you know what, this is where 502 00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:07,519 I live the rest of my life. Like it didn't seem like a place 503 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,599 that I would instantly see and fall in love with and want to live there. 504 00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:15,400 Yeah, but maybe I'm wrong, But I guess I'm just wondering what 505 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,079 the future of this character is gonna be. If she's not gonna be part 506 00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:22,000 of the action. I mean at the end of the episode, like she's 507 00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:25,079 kind of he's trying to get her to come along. I don't know if 508 00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:29,400 she's like pretending like she will or if she's gonna stand up to him. 509 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,599 I don't really know what's gonna go happen there. But Chief in the like 510 00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:36,680 he just seems kind of all over the place because he was giving Riz such 511 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,480 a hard time throughout those training even though he like knew that she was fucking 512 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,759 injured, and he's like pushing her to the limits, like get off your 513 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:46,200 ass it again. Yeah, we're all gonna shoot you as you climb up 514 00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:51,200 that rock as you just felt like one hundred feet, like run it again. 515 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,519 And then he's all like sad that she's about to die because it's like, 516 00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:57,200 oh, I pushed her too hard. And then she's like can barely 517 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,240 walk. She just did like emergency surgery came from the like just basically the 518 00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:04,440 pearly gates, like she was so close to death. And then he's like 519 00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:06,839 we're going, like are you coming with us? And then he's just like 520 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,800 shocked that she won't come with him. It's just like fucking let her rest 521 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,239 man, Like, my god, you want to kill her so bad that 522 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,840 you just push her to the limit even though her body's breaking. I just 523 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,440 found that so ridiculous. And then yeah, like her just being like I 524 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,000 found it, I found the place I've been looking for. It's like, 525 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,920 like, what are you talking about, Like you probably never even I don't 526 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,079 know, imagine that you would be putting down your Bootslettle then like settling down 527 00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,320 on this planet. She just seems like this has been the ultimate retirement package, 528 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,039 Like she's been looking at this towards this place for so long. And 529 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,480 in terms of where we're, well we'll see her again, I feel like 530 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,280 I wouldn't even be surprised we never see her again. Like it's literally just 531 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:44,519 she retires. Vani's dead, She's We'll never see her again. It'll just 532 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:46,639 be Cheaf finding Kai and that'll be like the one v one. Like, 533 00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:51,960 I just don't think there's any real place for the rest of Silver Team, 534 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000 which is which is unfortunate because it's just I don't know, like they had 535 00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:59,800 a lot of potential from where they were in season one. I felt that 536 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,079 way for a few characters though in terms of like there's nothing to do with 537 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:06,639 this character, and then they still have made up several episodes on arcs, 538 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,440 so I'm sure we'll get some weird Riz storyline where she becomes like a carrot 539 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:15,199 farmer on this planet. There's just some some some weird rabbit that ruins her 540 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,960 crops and then has to go up these fucking space rabbits. And season six, 541 00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:23,000 well, Chief, we'll meet up with her again. Chief. Every 542 00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:30,119 character is that it just Riz and his planet. I'll give my thoughts after 543 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,679 this ad break and we're back, so I I couldn't agree more. I 544 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,679 think the fact that Riz is on deaths door step and Chief's like, come 545 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,760 on, we gotta go. We're going together, and Rizz just like struggles 546 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,360 to stand up with her crutches and she's like, come on, let's go. 547 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:51,159 I feel like he just has he's lacking some some nuts and bolts and 548 00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,400 his brain there just to kind of like you said, out to lunch. 549 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,960 He really is like, we're running again, get climbing up that cliff. 550 00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:04,960 Yeah, she like grabs out his br There's poor writing involved with this. 551 00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:09,519 I really really feel like. But again, if Riz is being removed from 552 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,199 the equation now, I mean we've already lost Kai, and now we've lost 553 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,599 Vanik, and now we're losing Riz. It just makes it to me. 554 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:21,440 It does make sense. Like Halo the game comment of all kickstarted with Chief 555 00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:22,880 just being on his own. Well, of course there is an easter egg 556 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,519 of another Spartan in that game, the Pillar of Autumn, but you don't 557 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:34,639 actually really nothing comes from that anyways. It's just the fact that they're kind 558 00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:39,440 of like trying to touch down on certain things, like leading into Chief being 559 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:43,639 on his own with no team. I'm assuming by the time he gets to 560 00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:45,360 the Halo. But at the same time, they're just they're doing it in 561 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,039 a very weird way. And yeah, they could have done so much more 562 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,480 Silver Team. We could have seen some really really cool stuff. But the 563 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,679 only time we really got all four of them fighting together in this season, 564 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,280 well never like we got three of them fighting with no armor on. We 565 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,400 got all four of them not fighting but just moving through the woods going to 566 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,679 a relay station quietly and looking cool in their suits. And then with the 567 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:14,519 intro of the season, we just got Chief huffing it up these hills, 568 00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,119 fighting all by himself. We haven't gotten anything again with them all together, 569 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:21,079 and I think that's a huge con Now one of them's fucking dead, one 570 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:22,960 of them is injured beyond belief, and the other one fucked off. So 571 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:29,440 that ship has sailed and we can't never gain any benefit and satisfaction for visually 572 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:35,440 seeing those characters together fighting together. So it's just such a shame on that 573 00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,239 note too, with them we get to learn that they were left behind to 574 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,880 die essentially, which I just think this is the worst fucking Halo writing. 575 00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:47,719 I could imagine the fact that these Spartans, which are worth more than fucking 576 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,559 spaceships, were left behind just just to be killed off. And yeah, 577 00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:57,679 all throughout the everywhere you see these posters join the fight, help him win 578 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,480 the fight, and still got master Chief on the posters and whatnot, the 579 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,000 propaganda. It's like, man, it's just weird that this is this is 580 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,960 where we're at. They just they do this to spartans in the Halo games. 581 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,760 There's never a minute where you feel like any human life is worth just 582 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,480 like leaving behind or anything. Like like you said, Dylan, when you 583 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,039 got those rings with you, you're trying to keep them alive, and it 584 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,719 just feels like this is humanity. Every step that they have every battle that 585 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,679 they fight in these games is a battle that they feel like they can win 586 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,719 and they're gonna give it their all. But in this in this show, 587 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,920 it's just the no, we're gonna abandon you, We're gonna ditch you, 588 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,400 We're just gonna leave you behind this and that this planet's not worth defending. 589 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,000 We're gonna, you know, just go. There's just so many fucked up, 590 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,880 improper representations of the characters and the ideas that really make Halo what it 591 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,559 is in those games, and it's just really it's just wearing on me. 592 00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:54,480 Mm hmm uh. How are you feeling about Kai and what we saw here? 593 00:38:54,559 --> 00:39:00,079 I mean there's not much breakdown, but something. So this is exactly 594 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:06,760 what I was talking about before with Akrison and the Spartan threes, and this 595 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,159 is this is exactly just It's ripped out of the book Ghosts of Onyx Halo 596 00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:15,039 Ghost of on X and has been re skinned for this. So Ghostvonyx one 597 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:17,639 of the first Halo books actually read, and I actually really enjoyed that book. 598 00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:22,679 It's a good book. But where is it? So? Yeah, 599 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,039 on X Basically it's a shield, It's a foreigner shield world. It's where 600 00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:31,199 they train the Spartan threes and so a Foreerunner shield world. Basically, when 601 00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:35,079 the halo rings activate, you'd slip into the shield world. I think it 602 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,000 would create like a little slip space portal where you could go in the rings 603 00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:39,679 activate, then you kind of pop back and your eye affected. Uh, 604 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,199 that's how it kind of works. And so they didn't know it was obviously 605 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,920 a four Hunner planet at the time, but you have in the book, 606 00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:52,719 I think his name is Petty Officer Mendez. And then they they Akerson abducted 607 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,239 a Spartan two by the name of Current, So this was an under this 608 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,039 is under the books project. No one knew about the Spartan threes, but 609 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,519 they abducted. So Kurt has been replaced with Kai, who is willingly gone 610 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:07,480 with Akerson, so there's no abduction. She's willingly gone with him and is 611 00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:09,920 training the Spartan threes for the Smart and three programs. So that's basically what's 612 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,159 going on here. And the way that they just they casually just brazen over 613 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,880 it, Like how anyone that doesn't know this, I'm curious what you guys 614 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,519 would think of it, because you just see, Okay, we didn't see 615 00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:23,760 really what happened with Kai. She just disappeared, and now here she is 616 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,800 with Akerson on a planet called Onyx, and you see a whole bunch of 617 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,039 people being trained. It's like, well, okay, what is the point 618 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,280 here? Is she? Like? You don't know she's training them, you 619 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,320 don't know, really what's going on? Is this another Reach? Well? 620 00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:42,679 This just makes the fall of Reach feel less severe and less powerful than it 621 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,440 was supposed to, because, oh, we just got another massive human planet 622 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,920 here with military and whatnot. So it doesn't really matter that Reach fell because 623 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:52,119 we got something here. Just this was too soon, and the way that 624 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:54,639 they introduced that scene, it felt like this was just a cap off to 625 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,800 that story for this season. It genuinely felt like this is just like a 626 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,679 cliffhanger and tune in in next year for season three of what happens. So 627 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,840 I don't know, I'm not I'm not happy with it at all. And 628 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,760 I feel like if we're getting ghosts of Onyx stuff with the Spartan threes that 629 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,159 totally pulls away from from Halo, pulls away from dealing with master Chief at 630 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,960 being on Halo and get into the flood and everything like that, this is 631 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,360 just that's such an anthology story in my opinion, and just to mingle it 632 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,679 in with this main Halo narrative just doesn't fit. Damn, dude, that 633 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,760 was a great breakdown. I love how knowledgeable you are on this like extended 634 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,760 universe stuff. Yeah. I mean for me, it's it's it's yeah. 635 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,239 I'm really just like throwing random shit at the wall in terms trying to figure 636 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,719 out what's going on with this storyline because Akerson. It's weird, Like this 637 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,320 episode we had like, you know, a scene, but there's not even 638 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,760 like dialogue or anything. Right last episode he wasn't in there at all, 639 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,599 So it's like, I don't know, they're trying to set up this character, 640 00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:57,760 but then like two episodes in a row, we're not doing any work 641 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,360 on it, and now we're like coming in. We only have a few 642 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,559 episodes left here, so I don't know. It's weird. We have so 643 00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:07,199 much what we've seen of Ackerson, Like I'm supposed to believe that he's just 644 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:13,079 this really powerful guy. He's probably got a really silver tongue, really charismatic 645 00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:15,920 or something. He's able to kind of get whatever he wants. I haven't 646 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,639 really seen any of that but I have to kind of believe that that's what's 647 00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:22,199 happening, just based on everything kind of goes his way. And really there 648 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,159 was only one person against him that was that was John. So it's not 649 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,400 shocking to me that Kai would go with him. That he would have some 650 00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:36,360 reason, especially after from Kai's perspective, John has made several questionable decisions and 651 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,519 lied to her actively, so it makes sense. But would Kai be down 652 00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:45,639 with the destruction of Reach and John and Vannick and Riz dying and all these 653 00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:47,599 other people dying or does she just not know that info it. She's like, 654 00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:52,280 we're given so little so far on what's actually going on in kas Kai's 655 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,400 mind and in terms of making this decision, And yeah, like maybe he's 656 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,239 promised her the world and maybe he told her that they got John all these 657 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,239 other people off safe and everyone was evacuated from Reach. Like that's the only 658 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,840 way I can make it seem reasonable. And how she wouldn't there wouldn't be 659 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,440 any red flags raising up when when she's going with him, because it's like 660 00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:15,679 even if even if not all those promises are there, It's like if if 661 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,760 the civilians are still dying, I can't imagine Kai being like super down with 662 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,719 this and not wanting to be down there on Reach trying to save as many 663 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,280 people as she can. That doesn't fit with like the Kai that I've got 664 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,679 to know in like a season and a half of the show. So it's 665 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,320 just weird. I just feel like we have been given so little information on 666 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,159 these on these characters, and I don't know, it's weird. It's like 667 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:43,280 it's like they expect you to have this knowledge from outside the show on Akerson 668 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,079 for him to be an interesting character in any way, So kind of weird. 669 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:52,440 I'm curious to see how they try and wrap it up in these next 670 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,320 three episodes. I'm guessing since this Kai Akerson scene was at the end of 671 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,039 this one, that they're trying to say that like he next episod, I 672 00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:02,719 would expect you're finally going to get some more of this content and hopefully it 673 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,480 is meaty and meaningful. And I mean, I haven't really cared much for 674 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,559 Akerson as a character so far, but it's still as important to get his 675 00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:15,960 motivations and understand why Kai made such a decision. So I appreciate your context 676 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,239 there, Tather, but yeah, it's hard for me to have too much 677 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,840 of an opinion until we like get more in the actual TV show. Yeah, 678 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,559 I definitely am more in your camp as well, Dylan, just for 679 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,039 not having like maybe prior knowledge to what's going on here with Acresson, Like 680 00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:36,280 I just don't really have any attachment. And it's just kind of weird seeing 681 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,800 Kai in this position because how you laid out, like if the only way 682 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,800 that would makes sense is if she somehow believes that the rest of her team 683 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,519 like got out, because she's never seen like someone like I want to lead 684 00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:51,360 this team, like like like I should be master chief, I should be 685 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,400 the one that's more in the in the line, Like she just always seems 686 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,119 like the number two when it comes to master chief and just so loyal to 687 00:44:57,159 --> 00:45:00,760 that. And even though, like I guess a little bit of buttonhead moments 688 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,760 early on, it just it just seems like such a leap to where we 689 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,920 are now, like leading off and she's just she's just escape reach, I 690 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,880 guess, and just just siding with Accurson. Like it just seems like a 691 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,320 big jump for me to get behind. And it's not even like I'm that 692 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,960 invested with Kai where it's like, oh my god, my favorite character is 693 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,480 inciding with the bad guy, like, oh no, like it just yeah, 694 00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:28,920 not enough groundwork. I think was laid out for someone like me to 695 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:36,360 to fall behind on that. M I guess, Taylor, Like this planet 696 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,079 of Aliria. Is this a place that you're familiar with? Is this in 697 00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:45,920 any of the games or something? Maybe the simulator, but I'm unfamiliar with 698 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:51,400 it, so it's it's beyond my realm. I love the episode too. 699 00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:53,880 I was like waiting to meet Aliria like this character like, oh no, 700 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,400 it's just the planet of the range. Last last episode was called a reach, 701 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,599 like its just kind of named after the planet that we're on the trend. 702 00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:09,840 We got here two weeks in a row on episode Yeah, I've depleted, 703 00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:17,840 So what do I got here? The wig riz there, Halsey giving 704 00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,159 the eulogy for Vanik again doesn't feel like Halo, and I felt like this 705 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,960 just feels fucking weird. I'm not javing with it. You got all the 706 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,239 torchholders around and I'm sure they're going for something sentimental, and then Chief just 707 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:37,079 says like put him in the sky, Like Okay, I'm just not not 708 00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:44,800 feeling that, Chief, Yeah, I mean, even for how much setup 709 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,920 we've got for Vanik as a character, and we talked about how he kind 710 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,440 of just died and there wasn't much fanfair last episode. But this even felt 711 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,599 like overboard, like overkill or like too late, even like this should have 712 00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:58,960 been somehow worked into the same episode as his death maybe, but I was 713 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,920 like, okay, I've had died last week. I've moved on, like 714 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:07,119 let's let's do something else. So there's there's two things here regarding Chief as 715 00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:13,239 a character, and it bothers me how they tackled this, And this is 716 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,039 one of the factors for why I think that Okay, they watched a Halo 717 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:22,440 in five minutes and just fucking combined everything into the show. So again Halsey's 718 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,599 saying like, you can take us to the Halo and then says, whatever 719 00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:28,159 built it, it left something in you. That's how I chose you, 720 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,679 which is just there's so much of all this exposition is just so poorly fucking 721 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,000 written. It bothers me. Now, just yes, the genetic gene pool 722 00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:42,360 picking these certain humans all makes sense. That's that's what they did with the 723 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,440 Spartan two program. But whatever was left in him that you come to learn 724 00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:53,280 that throughout the Games and with Halsey that the fore Runners. Okay, here's 725 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,119 here's some major backstory here for Halo. When the fore Runners were accepting that 726 00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:00,000 they're going to recede from the galaxy in the Universe Verse, they set up 727 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:05,599 a plan that the mantle responsibility would be passed on to humanity. Humanity would 728 00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:08,440 then take on this responsibility of just being the guardians of the universe. And 729 00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:13,519 so when the Foremunners did that, that's why humans can activate fore Runner tech 730 00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,239 is because this mantle responsibility is passed on to them and they seated this. 731 00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:24,039 Now there's a Formunner called the Librarian, and she basically left accelerators in humanity. 732 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:27,920 She left blueprints, and one of these blueprints is the Spartan program. 733 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,079 So all these things she left was for humanity to get to the point where 734 00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:37,360 they are at now at an accelerated rate by accessing genetic like certain things and 735 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,840 what our thoughts that she left behind, and so, long story short, 736 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,239 one of these things that was supposed to be coming along was human augmentation kind 737 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,480 of the human body itself, and Spartans were on that path of achieving that. 738 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:55,119 And so that's another thing that Halseley is trying to talk about here, 739 00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:59,840 and I mean that's something that's pulled from Halo four and another thing you have 740 00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:06,159 from Halo four as well, horrible, horribly executed scene is like whatever, 741 00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:12,000 I right here, you're not a machine. Basically Cheap is talking about that 742 00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:14,559 himself, and like, yeah, Halsey saying, oh, you're not a 743 00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:16,159 machine. Everything like that. It's just so poorly done, and that is 744 00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:19,960 such a one of the moments that brings me to tears when I watch that 745 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,760 cut scene in Halo and Halo four, and I watch it quite a bit 746 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:29,440 actually, because it's such an intense scene where Chief loses Qortana and he's just 747 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,039 just staring at Earth. It's like five minutes long, him just staring at 748 00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:36,800 Earth with his helmet on, just taking it in. And then you have 749 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:42,639 this is Admiral Laski or Captain Laski, sorry, just he's a guy that 750 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,000 just comes up and just basically tells Chief, like, you know, soldiers 751 00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:49,719 aren't machines or just people. And Chief doesn't say anything. He just he 752 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,159 like turns his helmet and looks at Lasky and then turns away and looks at 753 00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:57,360 Earth. And it's just such a heavy scene. But this is where you 754 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,679 have the game starting to explore Chiefs humanity. We've gone through three titles where 755 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,159 he's just like point A to point B, but you just you follow him 756 00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:07,760 because he's the master Chief and he is that Chief that you see on the 757 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,920 posters. And this TV show joined the Fight Help Fight the Covenant with him 758 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,239 and all that kind of stuff. But now you get into this next sequence 759 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,599 of games that really go into that heavy part of his humanity and just transition 760 00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:27,320 from him being that robotic soldier to being so much more than that that and 761 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,199 I love that, I really really do love that. I love the game 762 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:36,440 cycle it, but this show has taken the bipolarists ness out of all these 763 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,199 different games, like and just like left and right and up and down a 764 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,880 topsy Turvy, and I just fucking hate it and it drives me nuts. 765 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,599 So that's I think that's all that I really had. I think that's exhausted 766 00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:52,360 my notes. So those are some of the just stuff that really I love 767 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:58,360 hearing you talk about Halo lore man, like you're such a compassion with this 768 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,599 stuff, Like this is so compelling, and I want I want this level 769 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:06,760 of storytelling in this show. It's it's there's that's really interesting, compelling things. 770 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,679 I wish we were getting half of that quarter that I know. I 771 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,239 feel. I feel bad for you the more you tell me how cool this 772 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,639 stuff is, like, because it's like, man, you're so in the 773 00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:23,119 bag for this and the fact that this show is not delivering, Like for 774 00:51:23,199 --> 00:51:24,920 me, it's just kind of like a boring TV show. And I, 775 00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:27,840 you know, I like the games, but I don't really know the story 776 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,840 very well. But yeah, there's some really great storytelling going on there, 777 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:36,360 but we just, uh, it's all lost in translation. Oh it's true. 778 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,800 There is some great storytelling and people that have never played the games but 779 00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:44,199 they're watching the show and they think this is the fucking be all end all, 780 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,599 Like, oh my god, I don't have to play the games. 781 00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:50,360 This show is amazing. Uh, there's just they're they're missing out. They're 782 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,679 really really missing out on some some good quality content. Definitely, and the 783 00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:01,519 truth, the truth, the most important thing of all, well is that 784 00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:07,239 everything that's all capped. Nothing else. Yeah, Okay, Well we will 785 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,039 be back Ladies and gentlemen for episode six, and we got another two, 786 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,400 well yeah, three episodes remaining. It's gonna be great. We're gonna figure 787 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,679 out where the fuck the show's gonna take us, so until then, you 788 00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:22,440 can find us with interconnection in the search bar. We'll see you later. 789 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,960 Bye bye, B.