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Welcome back, everyone to a new
episode of You're Wrong with Me. David

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Harsani and my good dear friend Molly
Hemingway. How's it going, Molly,

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It's going great. How are you
doing. I'm doing very well. We

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got to hang out a little bit
last week, so that was fun.

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We never really see each other in
real life very often. It was awesome.

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We had our annual staff retreat.
We just hung out, talked,

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shot some skeet, played some basketball. You played. You played basketball against

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one of the staff whom is like
six foot eleven. It's not six foot

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eleven, but he looks that tall
to me about college ball, and he

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played college ball, and he could
have like vanquished everybody. But but in

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fact your team won. Yeah we
did. We did. But I suspect

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that he took it easy on us. I think he took it say yeah,

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I have to say, like I
told you at the time, I

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think I had two heart attacks.
I laid down on the floor after I

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was beat red. Days later,
I still felt it, and I thought

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I had like turned a corner and
gotten back into good, really good shapes,

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you know, for the first time
since COVID. But apparently that was

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not the case um be in training
for next year. I was telling your

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husband Mark that I'm going to like
show up and pretend that oh yeah,

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you know, like it's some nonchalant
game. But me all being to train

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an all year just take three pointers
that could show up like Michael Jordan.

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I don't think I can do that
anymore. Anyway, it was fun,

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it was great. I loved I
was you know, I loved seeing everyone.

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So yeah, So today we have
this breaking news that two high profile

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members of Congress are demanding information from
the Department of Justice about a scandal involving

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Joe Biden himself. So you have
James Comer, who's on the House Government

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Oversight and Accountability Committee, and then
you have long time whistleblower hero Senator Chuck

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Grassley saying that they have information that
there is information within the FBI and Department

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of Justice alleging criminal wrongdoing by then
Vice President Biden involving a foreign person and

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the Biden family business and so or
that's what it seems to be. I

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mean, it's like it's a little
interesting because they're actually trying to get documents

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preserved and get them into House and
Senate oversight without revealing too much information,

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but it sounds fairly explosive, right. The wording and the press release says

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that there's a form somewhere that's classified
that describes an alleged criminal scheme involving then

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Vice President Biden in a foreign national
relating to the exchange of money for policy

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decisions. Now, I haven't had
time to sort of digest this. I

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mean, obviously, if the name
on this or Donald Trump, this would

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be the biggest story ever, it
would have blown up. I doubt this

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is going to get much coverage,
probably from the mainstream media. Oh my

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gosh, establishment media as yes,
they're not mainstream, but go on.

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And it's sort of a reaction that
I say that with you it perfunctory way

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of describing them. But well,
first of all, we don't know much

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about this yet, Like we don't
know what it, which country it involves.

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We don't know a lot. So
I think that people always need to

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take it easy when something like this
drops, and note not immediately assume that

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we have some kind of smoking gun
and stuff like that. I'm just saying

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it's it's good to be vigilant and
not overreact, right, disagree, I

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mean, we have I think here's
the scenario we have. We have a

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Department of Justice and it's FBI that
will launch an investigation into any Republican who

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is good at the drop of a
hat, even if the predicate is preposterous

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and ridiculous. And we lived through
that, We've experienced it in multiple ways,

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and we have seen this standard of
justice that's applied to people who are

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not allies of the Democrat Party.
And then you have seen repeatedly, you

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know, just to give a recent
example, the investigation of Hillary Clinton's mishandling

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of fied information through the creation of
an illicit secret server to manage her email

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as she did as she was Secretary
of State, involving you know, also

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the she was running a foundation that
took large grants from foreign governments in exchange

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for favors to be named later presumably, and likewise you have this Biden family

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business. There's one theory that Hunter
Biden is a business mastermind who everyone in

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the world wants to throw piles of
money at just for morsels of his wisdom.

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That's certainly a theory. The other
theory is that people were giving Hunter

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Biden bags of cash in exchange for
and not just Hunter Biden, but James

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Biden, the brother of Joseph Biden, and other family members, that they

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were getting and securing bags of cash
from foreign governments, foreign oligarchs, shady

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figures in exchange for their proximity to
Joe Biden. There's no reason to give

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these Biden family members money other than
the access to the person who actually handles

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government policy. So, while yes, of course I'm curious what the actual

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details are, what I'm hearing already
from this document alleging criminal wrongdoing involving then

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Vice President Joe Biden and the Biden
family business is that it's just another example

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of how if that person even had
the letter T in his name, much

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less Trump, we would have had
a massive special counsel going explosive reporting leaks

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from the FBI, and instead,
what happened in this case is apparently they

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had reason to start an investigation or
credible evidence of wrongdoing and it got buried.

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So I think my tolerance for having
a wait and see approach so that

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the FBI, Department of Justice,
other hacks the media can all like suppress

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a story, my patience for that
is just gone. So I will just

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go ahead and assume, well,
go ah, didn't assume if we even

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have this type of information that the
actual reality must be like a million times

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worse. Well, I'm not saying
this shouldn't be an investigation and we shouldn't

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know. I'm just saying we don't
know what it's about yet. That's all.

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Here's what I'd like to know.
Obviously we should, we should see

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this document, and we should hear
from the whistleblower. There's no reason why

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that shouldn't happen. A and you
mentioned Trump. You know, if this

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had been Trump, if there would
be a tea in their name. Any

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Republican? I mean you don't you
know any Republican had this kind of document

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existing, and a whistleblower, you
know, in out there in the world

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who had quit, who had a
claim that they had been involved in a

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bribery scheme, this would be a
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all the paper, New York Times
piece, for sure. I can't even

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believe we haven't heard about this since
this is how long ago as a VP,

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like, so over ten years ago. Sure that is interesting. But

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one thing that kind of impresses me
about this rash of whistleblowers that are working

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with Grassley and other high caliber members
of Congress. They're really doing everything by

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the book. You saw this with
the IRS whistleblower, who before he or

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she even gave information to his or
her own attorney, made sure to get

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that congressionally approved so that nobody could
say that they violated IRS protocol or guidelines.

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Like they're really being careful, and
Grassley has released a bunch of information

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that points to this significance and high
caliber of these whistleblowers. There is also

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the situation that the media and the
FBI are sort of if I've been reporting

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on this story a little yet to
publish anything, but my reporting indicates that

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there's this sort of coordinated campaign within
the FBI to completely take out any one

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who's blowing the whistle. They're working
with corrupt members of the media to disparage

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denigrate anyone who's coming forth with information. Now, the result of that is

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that all of these whistleblowers are just
being extremely, extremely careful and making sure

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they're doing everything by the book.
It's not just one whistleblower, it's a

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ton of whistleblowers, and they all
have different levels of information and different aspects

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that are coming out sort of related
to this. I think it's interesting that

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we are getting more information about Hunter
Biden's finances out of this like court in

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Arkansas that's hearing a custody dispute than
we have from our own corporate media or

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any of the like years long investigations
on this point. During the Trump era,

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we had nothing but like NonStop leaks
and innuendos from anonymous intelligence officials,

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all of which came to nothing.
We've had years of Hunter Biden investigations where

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they're just handling it very responsibly and
not letting anything get out and just like

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not indicting, even though we all
know that there are crimes ranging from like

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guns to drugs to tax issues,
you know, and presumably like a lot

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more that we that we get a
little hints of. But Hunter Biden is

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pleading poverty in this Arkansas court,
which is, you know, either he's

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lying, which would seem to be
the case because we know that he's been

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given bags of cash by all these
people, or he's telling the truth.

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And what's interesting about that is he
has some of the highest paid attorneys in

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America. So if he's poor,
who's paying for those attorneys? Is it

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China, communist China, is it
Ukraine? Is it corrupt oligarchs? Like

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who's paying for his high paying,
highly paid attorneys? What do you think?

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I don't know, I don't know
paying for it? All? I

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know? You know this is I
guess. I guess. I don't have

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anything definitive to say so far in
this podcast because I don't know what all

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this stuff is really about. But
I will say that the case against Hunter

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Biden is oh. I read a
story about every month about how indictments are

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coming any minute now they have never
come. And we know so much about

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his criminal activity from like you say, a clear and gun charge like that.

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I haven't seen any disputed evidence for
where he dropped a gun near a

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high school and led on his background
check forms. These are the kind of

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criminal This is the kind of criminal
behavior we should be focusing on if we

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want to stop gun crime. So, which is a big, you know,

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issue for Joe Biden. But I
don't know who's paying for his lawyers.

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How the hell should I know I
was paying for his lawyers. I

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don't know. The whole thing is
extremely shady, and we you know,

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and those post stories and his laptop. It's clear that he's involved, and

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you know, he's up to no
good criminal behavior, and it's clear that

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he was only able to engage in
that behavior because of who his dad was.

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And it's clear to me at least
that his dad helped him. He

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took him to China, he introduced
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got involved in Ukrainian investigations that involved
a company that was connected to his son.

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So obviously this is corruption. I
don't know what the you know,

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how illegal it's going to be,
but it is corruption, and it's you

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know, I just don't see how
they get around indicting him. At some

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point, you do say that Joe
was helping Hunter, but it seems also

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that Hunter was helping Joe. You
know, we all kind of like make

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light of how people come to Congress
and they're really poor and then they leave

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multi millionaires. But part of the
way that happens is through arrangements like this,

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where family members serve on boards in
exchange for their proximity to the powerful

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politician. And there is indication from
the material that's come out thus far,

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from emails of family members, that
Hunter was paying for part of the Biden

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family existence and so I think it
was a mutually beneficial arrangement. And it's

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kind of sick and sad that Joe
Biden acts like he's this like wonderful father

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who loves his addict son without taking
responsibility for the pressure he put on his

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son to raise a ton of money
so that the family could live high on

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the hog. Yeah, sorry,
since we're going Since I'm going off on

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Joe Biden, I just want to
say I think his refusal to acknowledge his

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own granddaughter because of the circumstances of
her birth is reprehensible and just horrific.

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And I do not say that as
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but just as a human. That
is so wrong. That is not that

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little girl's fault how her parents met
or how they conceived her, and every

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child should be welcomed as a beautiful
gift from God and particularly from the grandparents.

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And he, you know, this
week, was denying her existence.

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They're denying her. The use of
her family name is just awful. Children

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need to have relationships with their mothers
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I have never thought Joe Biden was
a good person at all because a

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person who acts the way he acts
in politics is not a good person.

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The way that the things that he
said about Mitt Romney wanting to put black

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people into chains even just to talk, you know, as a sand he

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ran the Clarence Thomas hearings. He
is the one he had so much to

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do with the degradation of that process
and the smearing. He is not any

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kind of good person anything else.
On this topic. I was a long

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prepared. I was a long prepared
because it just happened, and I don't

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know what to think. I'd like
to take a day to mull it over.

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Actually, I was just doing TV
and they usually give you a heads

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up about what you're going to be
talking about. And one of the people

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that I was is like, on
around he was given this topic, but

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he learned he was given this topic
when they asked him the question on live

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national television and he was like,
I don't know, but he did a

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great job. So I mean these
are serious charges. Yeah, well yeah,

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and it is serious in like the
most these would be the most these

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are you know, this is the
bribery is bad enough, but bribery and

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a foreign national involved in US policy, you don't get worse than that.

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By the way, imagine if this
involves bribery and Ukraine, given the first

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impeachment sham thing we went through,
and like, what if the FBI had

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knowledge prior to that of actual shenanigans
involving Ukraine and a government official. Oh

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boy, Weirdly, weirdly, I
think that the Russia collusion hoax affects me

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here or somewhat in that I just
don't want to immediately do what they did,

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get hysterical, you know, about
something that I don't know, I

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don't have the full picture on.
And I'm not saying there's someone in the

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FBI trying to undermine Joe Biden.
That seems highly highly unlikely with you know,

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spurious stories whatever. But it does
make me want to not get hysterical

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like they did. Well, here's
what I think you can reasonably surmise or

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reasonably understand that our FBI will open
investigations at the drop of a hat against

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someone right of center who's a threat
to the establishment, and they will go

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out of their way to not do
the same for an ally of their preferred

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political party. Now that doesn't mean
that if you were to open a full

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fledged investigation you might find exonerating evidence
for the Biden family business, but we

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can at least know that we have
two standards of justice. That people who

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are friends of the regime are allowed
to just basically get away with anything,

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and that people who look askance from
the other side might end up in prison

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for like the silliest of process crimes. All right, I'm done with that.

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I want to move on. Um, here's some what has really This

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is what really grinds my gear.
This has grinded my gears this week.

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This is I like to say,
chap, chaps my hide. Did this?

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Chap your hide? This did the
So this has been ongoing for a

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long time, the various degrees in
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effort to undermine the Supreme Court and
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the reason that that that this Supreme
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is being undermined, is because it
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governing principle. Right that it is
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progressivism. It's, in my view, maybe the only thing that stops them

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right now in many places. So
there was a story about clou Clarence Thomas

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had been essentially had conflicts of interest
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there was a Neil Gorsuch story about
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his house and it tried to hide
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junk person didn't know how to read
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probably the latter. And yesterday there
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get into the specifics too much,
but it's about the Federalist Society and other

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groups like it who are interested in
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they were that this guy Leonard Leo
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that was sort of corrupt whatever.
Another just idiotic story. But this is

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my This is what I just want
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yesterday on MSNBC. I saw a
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it was with Mecti Hassan, and
he was just gleeful, gleeful and happy

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that the court had been delegitimized in
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was what they wanted to do from
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that and claimed that conservatives make law
through the court. He literally said this,

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and that He literally later brought up
abortion, which was row was unilaterally

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thrust on the American people. It
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it is because a bunch of guys
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the American people. Even gay marriage
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not democratically. What he's saying is
completely ridiculous. But it's always cabin ball

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with these people, and I think
what they've done to the Court is an

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insurgency. As I read this,
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He wrote this wonderful substack could look
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insurgency, and he is right.
Chris Murphy is an insurgent that is far

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more dangerous than the Shaman of January
sixth or any one of those people who

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acted, in my mind, despicably. But this is the worst attack on

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our institution that I can think of, worse than anything Donald Trump did anything.

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And I don't think there's any way
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Court. I really don't, because
once they start ignoring the Court, which

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they will do, which we even
have what's her name, Nancy May saying

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ignore courts if you don't like it, just ignore the court on abortion and

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abortion pills and whatever you want.
Then you don't have a country. Then

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you just have anarchy, and then
that's that's going to be the end of

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it. I do want to know
that makes sense. That makes sense.

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It did. Oh, since I'm
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note that he also made this point
that the Left is always claiming that they're

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in defensive institutions, but they're besieging
of the Supreme Court and the in federal

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courts in general, shows that they
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Can you imagine Dick Durby and sitting
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get John Roberts to come down for
this clown show hearing he had the other

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day a guy who I listed it
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I listed went through the Judiciary Committee
and listed some of the things that these

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these senators have done in the way
they you know, speaking of the way

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they make money while in office.
This is definition insider trading. I will

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say when I when I wrote the
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several justices and one thing that was
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the how offensive it is to be
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corrupt senators having your ethics challenged in
confirmation hearings, and they just have to

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kind of sit there and take it, even though they know that these people

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are some of the most corrupt people
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But I do want to say that
nothing about these attacks are meaningful except as

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a way to see that the Left
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single institution except for the Supreme Court, and so they are doing their best

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to seize control one way or the
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they can't, and that includes lying. And to put a fine point on

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what you said about the Dabs ruling. Rov. Wade was legislation from the

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bench. It was seven men dictating
to the country that even though abortion was

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nowhere mentioned in the Constitution, that
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You had to just accept that it
would be legal and there was nothing you

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could do about it. Dabbs Alito's
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since it's not mentioned in the Constitution, it can be it can be

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handled by the people at the state, local, federal level. It returns

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to the people the right to decide
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Chris Murphy and others are just straight
up lying or completely ignorant, and neither

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is good. No, it's it's
because listen, I would love for one

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of these guys to sit down with
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tough question and then answer this one. What is democracy? Define what democracy

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in your mind means, because I
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Really everything I like is democracy.
I think it just means things that match

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the Democrat agenda. Yes, Like, can you believe that they have the

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goal to say that someone who wants
to ask a voter for an idea to

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make sure that they're the person who's
actually voting, is an enemy of democracy

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because it's so sacred that you can
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without any kind of laws dictate governing
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say, as Richard Blueman Paul did
that Clarence Thomas should be investigated by the

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DJ for criminal activity because he failed
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And I'm not even sure he actually
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mean, it is an attack on
one of the go on. I think

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he did have to. He does
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is that's actually common occurrence anyone who
covers judges no, like Katanji Brown Jackson

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had to amend like twelve years of
forms because she forgot to mention her husband's

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employment or some such people amend forms
all the time, and it's a pretty

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regular thing because of how complicated these
issues are. But this is not about

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actual concern over Clarence Thomas, who's
one of the most frugal members of the

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court in history, having a wealthy
friend who he sometimes goes to his house

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or goes on his boat. This
is just about what it's always been,

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which is a belief that Clarence Thomas
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originalist justice and a black man.
Such amur are also amended her filings and

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Justice Stephen Bryer had traveled paid for
by I forget the family's name. Some

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real some billionaire family. Oh yeah. Also, like they're all upset about

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these trips that Clarence Thompson, there's
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something like two hundred and fifty trips. Ruth Bader Ginsberg was taking trips all

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the time. But with Ruth Bader
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decisions as fundraisers for pro abortion groups. None of these jerks had a problem

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with that because they actually don't have
a problem with the underlying issue. They

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have a problem with people not towing
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I'm all over. But you had
Donald Trump on January sixth. I

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think it was cless speech. But
does any of everyone remember Chuck Schumer threatening

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the Supreme Court justice is in front
of the building. I forgot the words

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to use something. You reaped the
whirlwind, or you're going to rape the

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whirlwind. You sewed the wind,
You're going to reap the whirlwind. He

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threatened, threatened justices that if they
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contradiction to the actual Constitution, that
they would face physical repercussions. And by

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the way, they have justice Kavanaugh
has had assassination attempts. All of the

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justices physical, all of the justices
who were not on the left side of

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things on abortion law have to have
massive amounts of security. They can't really

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go anywhere they like, just this
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protesters by the way, you know, since it's illegal to do this in

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attempts to change judges or justices ruling. There are all sorts of things that

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the Department of Justice could do to
go after these people. They have gone

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out of their way to not do
anything. Like moms at school board meetings.

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That's the threat to the republic,
you know, moms expressing their views

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that are in contradiction to what Merritt
Garland's views are. That's something where you

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need to bring the full force of
the FBI against them. But people making

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assassination attempts against sitting justices or threatening
them and their children, but it's a

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free country. They can protest.
I give you another example. Across the

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country there are state legislatures and they're
trying to pass laws, and a bunch

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of leftist goons, which is what
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In the same way the insurgents of
January sixth did and no one has a

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problem with it. I hope you're
using air quotes for insurgents there. No,

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I always have disagreed with you on
that. I think there are some

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people who were not and there were
some people who acted violent. No,

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I'm just but yeah, I am. I'm saying it's sarcastic. I'm not

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I'm not defending anyone taking over any
capital. I'm just saying the overheated rhetoric

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is silly. So like I would
not have called them insurgents before before right,

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um, I would have called them, you know, thugs and idiots

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and people who are shutting you know
who are who who should be arrest Oh

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my gosh. Shutting Shutting down capitals
is a leftist specialty going too decades.

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Exactly, you can't go to a
if you're a conservative and you go to

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a college, you're going to be
screamed at and shut down. This is

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this is the leftist way of mode
of operation and it's been happening forever.

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Or they're shut down highways or during
the BLM thing, they would shut down

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cities like I mean, or just
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of Seattle or Portland or wherever.
Um? How many? How many is

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anyone? And yet when you see
this happening like you didn't in Um in

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Tennessee or was it Nashville in Tennessee? Uh? How does the how does

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the press um frame these people?
They frames them as protesters, as heroes,

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not as villains as they did with
these as January sixth Folk. Now,

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okay, but David, it's not
hypocrisy, it's hierarchy. They never

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believed the arguments that they were using
against conservative protests. They just don't like

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threats to leftist power and leftist policies. And so if you're in favor of

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those, you're good. If you're
opposed to them, you're bad. So

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they're actually not being hypocritical. They're
just believing quite strongly that the right doesn't

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have the right to exist. That's
exactly right. So let's then let me

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go back to the story on the
Federal Society or others who raise who you

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know, who are written about the
conservative legal movement, who are written about

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as if they're somehow corrupt. The
wording is constantly dark dark money groups,

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dark money networks, dark money,
this, dark money, that, and

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then I went and I looked at
the same reporters have they reported dark money

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groups on the left, and they
never mention those words. It's always activist,

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you know whatever kind of used even
to use an example, we're in

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the midst with quickly, sorry,
one quick quick word. The point is

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conservatives aren't allowed to raise money.
That's what bothers them. The existence of

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these groups bothers them, not anything
they actually did. Just like you said

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about you know, these protests.
Sorry, no, just that we are

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in the midst of a dark money
operation. Like obviously, anybody with an

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IQ over room temperature understands that there's
a coordinated attempt to attack the Supreme Court.

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They are coordinated attempt to go after
the non leftist justices on the Court.

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So different media outlets are used as
willful co conspirators in this operation.

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Sometimes it's the exact same hack reporters
who ran the anti Kavanaugh smere such as

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Heidi Prisbella, and they are all
working together in the latest anti Supreme Court

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operation. The dark money funded groups
will like Demand Justice and fix the Court

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are being quoted in this but rather
than you know, when someone comes to

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a reporter and says like, hey, I want you to take part in

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this operation. A good reporter would
be like, tell me more about this

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operation and then expose it. But
that's not what we have. We have

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people just being look, sure,
I'll help you with Kavanaugh two point zero,

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and it's infuriating. Also, here's
another infuriating thing. Really quickly,

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Ruth Marcus ran the anti Kavanaugh smir
for The Washington Post. It was a

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despicable, disgusting, reprehensible operation just
because they love abortion so much, and

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even for people who love abortion.
Ruth Marcus is special because she once said

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that not only does she think that
people who children who weren't perfect should be

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killed, she would have killed her
own kid if her kid had been determined

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not to be perfect in utero,
so like her bloodthirstiness is intense. Anyway,

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while she thought that the Kavanaugh smir
meant that justice, then Judge Kavanaugh's

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life should be overturned and he should
be investigated to within an inch of his

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life, and that she believed these
allegations despite the fact that there was not

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one scintilla of evidence in support of
them, and like a million pieces of

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evidence against them. She says this
week that she's really upset at Justice Alito

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because he says he thinks he knows
who the leaker was, and yet he

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offered no evidence in support of it. Are you bleeping kidding me right now,

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Ruth Marcus, are you kidding me? You who thought that it didn't

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matter that there was no evidence in
support of destroying the life and threatening the

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life of a really respectable federal judge, Like, that's okay. Now you

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want evidence before someone can say simply, I think I know who the leaker

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was. He didn't even like say
I think it's this person. He just

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said he believes he knows who it
is. That's a good point. I

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saw that. Now that's a righteous
rant there. But I have to go

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back a little bit and just say
you mentioned how listen, I've been in

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journalism a while. People try to
sell you APO research all the time.

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00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:09,480
Most of it is risible, most
of it is laughably thin. You would

407
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:14,279
never attach your name to it because
you would immediately be called out and embarrassed

408
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:17,559
to do it. These days,
well let me let me let me read

409
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,759
from my own piece the other day. These days, though with a little

410
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:27,480
quality control, virtually no consequences for
spreading false partisan attacks. A person without

411
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:31,400
any journalistic ethics can probably build a
career on this stuff, which brings me

412
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,440
to Heidi Principala's new piece at Politico. I was literally gonna be like,

413
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,480
and you're talking about Hidi Pricipal by
the way, we eviscerated her Kavanaugh reporting

414
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:45,400
Injustice on Trial, and you can
look that up in like chapter ten,

415
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,759
I think, But go on,
yeah, she'll She'll repeat anything that they

416
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:52,599
tell her to you. She's just
terrible. She's at Politico now, so

417
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,880
anyway, she was the I don't
even want to it's I have to be

418
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,599
honest with this last hit piece of
hers. It couldn't even decipher what the

419
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:02,799
action accusation was like. It was
so difficult to understand. It was just

420
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:07,559
a bunch of words that sounds scary
cobble together to try to insinuate something,

421
00:34:07,719 --> 00:34:14,519
but it was just vacuous, David. That reminds me of the second phase

422
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:19,440
of the anti Kavanaugh operation, which
was the New Yorker had rowan pharaoh and

423
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:23,840
Jane Meyer telling a story that I
have read literally like thirty times, and

424
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:30,039
I cannot tell you what the problem
was like if you actually tried to nail

425
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:34,119
it down like what the allegation was, It was impossible, but like it

426
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,920
was supposed to be really explosive,
all because they used like salacious words and

427
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,400
salacious scenarios and they kind of put
them one after the other, but ultimately

428
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,400
came up to like a woman thinks, but isn't sure that maybe someone who

429
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:52,599
might have been Brett Kavanaugh might have
done something. I was like, this

430
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,559
isn't this is not journalism, and
yet everyone went wild with it, and

431
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,639
Senate Democrats said that it was a
reason why he should he should step down.

432
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:04,239
Yeah. I struggle to come out
with a name for that. I

433
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,559
call it like Petempken. Journalism is
just kind of dressed up with all this

434
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:14,800
journalistic verbiage and like words that sound
very you know, damning, but actually

435
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,679
don't mean anything. Let me just
read you the lead of that story by

436
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:22,400
Heidi Prisi Well. Leonard Leo,
who helped to choose judicial nominees for former

437
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:27,559
President Donald Trump, obtained a historic
one point six billion dollar gift from his

438
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:31,880
conservative legal network via an introduction through
the Federalist Society, whose tax status for

439
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:38,400
bids political activism. That is one
sentence and it makes zero sense. Oh

440
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,800
wait, can I just read chilling
components Donald Trump one point six billion and

441
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,920
Federalist Society, and that's all you
need to know. This reminds me of

442
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,559
something I would like any of our
listeners, particularly those with money, to

443
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,840
know, which is sometimes people will
come up to me and be like,

444
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,960
oh, congratulations on the one point
six billion dollars. There is no relationship

445
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:07,719
between the Federalist Society and the Federalist
other than a shared love of founding documents,

446
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:10,920
and we certainly publish people who might
be members of the Federalist Society,

447
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,599
and you know, I wrote a
book on the Kavanaugh confirmation. But there

448
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,519
is no relationship. So if anyone
out there has one point six billion dollars

449
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:24,199
and wants to invest it in quality
journalism, please give me a call.

450
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Or even if it's just a tiny
fraction of that, please give me a

451
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:37,280
call. Okay, commercial one point
six million dollars one point six thousand dollars

452
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,159
one hundred and sixty thousand would be
great. I could hire a reporter two.

453
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,039
But yes, sorry that that got
me off track there, But yes,

454
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,599
yeah, I know everyone always thinks
we're the Federal Society lesson. I

455
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:51,400
don't get too mad over that.
Because of our name. But yeah,

456
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,519
we are not connected with them in
any way other than we were fans generally

457
00:36:54,519 --> 00:37:00,280
of I think they're legal philosophy.
So another thing that was big this week

458
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:06,239
involved the or it actually happened last
week, is that Kevin McCarthy, against

459
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,719
all odds, got the House to
pass an increase in the debt limit in

460
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,039
the debt sailing. And this is
just like a fascinating story because the entire

461
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:20,639
calculus in Washington, DC, or
the one that Joe Biden was operating under,

462
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,719
was that there was no way the
Republicans could come together to pass an

463
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:29,440
increase on the debt limit, And
so when Kevin McCarthy was asking him for

464
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,559
months to negotiate with him, Biden
just kept saying, I'm not going to

465
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:38,880
negotiate with you because you're not worthy
of negotiating with All of this hinged on

466
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:45,039
the Republicans not passing an increase,
and then they did. It destroyed the

467
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:51,559
media slash Democrat argument against negotiating with
Kevin McCarthy. Now, all of a

468
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:55,079
sudden, the only person who has
passed something or who has done anything to

469
00:37:55,159 --> 00:38:00,559
save the country from default is Kevin
McCarthy. And now the Senate has to

470
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:05,719
go along or be responsible for the
failure there, or Biden has to go.

471
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,480
You know, it's like it's actually
kind of a hilarious turn of events,

472
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:12,079
and it really does point to how
wise it was to have that fight

473
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:19,559
about speaker early on, where the
Conservatives demanded some some things in exchange for

474
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,559
their vote for Kevin McCarthy. Thereby
bonded them together very closely. And now

475
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,760
they're actually working together under really difficult
circumstances, like the margin they have is

476
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,559
so small, and yet they managed
to do stuff like this. That's a

477
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,559
good that's a good point and a
good story. And I have to say

478
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:40,159
a couple of things. There was
a Wall Street Journal story on this fight,

479
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,400
and they literally again I'm using the
word literally correctly, did not mention

480
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,239
the House bill had passed, like
they spoke about like the disagreement, but

481
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,280
not mentioned that the has a bill
passed during the Obama years. If the

482
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,760
House pass if the Democrats passed something
and the Senate didn't move forward, it

483
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,039
was called obstructionism or vice versa.
Now they don't even mention it. They

484
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:04,519
don't even mention it in their coverage, just like it doesn't matter, do

485
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:07,519
you remember Chuck Schumer every day going
where's your plan? Republicans, It's like,

486
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,440
show us your plan. Well,
they have a plan now, and

487
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,320
you know it's it's amazing to me. The death seal, Like, I

488
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,920
just want to put out that you
said that about the Wall Street Journal,

489
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,199
which is the only paper I subscribe
to, and I do acknowledge that it's

490
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,840
better than most other papers, but
stuff like that happens all the time,

491
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,920
and it's infuriating. I think they
just have a bunch of like leftists working

492
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,719
in the news side, and it's
really delegitimizing the paper in ways that are

493
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:37,079
not cool. I do also read
the Wall Street Journal and like the Wall

494
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,280
Street Journal and subscribe to the Wall
Street Journal because I think it's serious,

495
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,199
a serious place with serious journalists.
But yeah, there are plenty of left

496
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:46,400
wingers and there's plenty of bias in
the news pages. I don't know if

497
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,320
people realize that. I think because
a lot of investors and stuff read it,

498
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,760
they're they're more I don't know,
anchor to factual reporting the New York

499
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,760
Times, but yeah, it's problematic. But yeah, anyway, I think

500
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,679
you know you have the you have
the debt ceiling, and basically Democrats argument

501
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,280
is that you ignore it, pretend
it doesn't exist. You're not allowed to

502
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,440
make any demands, You're not allowed
to do anything. And then there,

503
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:13,559
you know, and then they pose, they say, like, we pay

504
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:15,559
our debts. We're Americans, we
pay Yeah, but if you don't do

505
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:20,719
anything to lower your debt moving forward, you're never going to be able to

506
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,000
pay it that they don't want to. You do have to pay your debts,

507
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:25,920
but you do have to also be
responsible. I mean, it was

508
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,639
a good move because usually Republicans lose
this vote. I know, I know

509
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:35,000
the Republicans in the House are going
to disappoint us mightily very soon. But

510
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:38,719
just like, it is May and
they have done all right, so they

511
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:44,000
should get that credit. I don't
wonder if anyone really cares about cutting spending.

512
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,599
But anyway, um yeah boiler alert, they do not. Okay,

513
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,159
um, I mean if you do, but okay, uh yeah. Any

514
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:59,760
have you been watching anything or reading
anything interesting? I have? I might

515
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,519
have I mentioned this last week,
but I don't think so. Or I

516
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:07,079
finished watching Better Call Saul the last
season, which I thought it was excellent.

517
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,639
You know, I disagree with people
say it's better than Breaking Bad.

518
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:15,800
I don't think it comes close,
frankly, but the last season was it

519
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,679
really was fun to watch and just
to see what happens to Saul. So

520
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,800
I think you are not a Breaking
Bad fan. Really it was I want

521
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:30,760
to be. And it took me
like six weeks of recovery after each episode

522
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,440
I watched because it was so intense. So like, I recognize that it's

523
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,559
great, it's just way too intense
for my little heart to him. I

524
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:43,039
am usually not affected by things I
watched on TV. I couldn't care less,

525
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:46,199
but when that show ended, I
was like emotionally affected, like for

526
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:52,000
days. So yeah, it's super
intense show. I think that's all I

527
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,000
really watched. I would mention one
other other thing. Last week I had

528
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,199
mentioned to Martin Scorsese documentary about David
Johansson, and someone wrote us a letter

529
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:05,679
reminding me or we're suggesting that I
watched this thing called New York Doll,

530
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,559
which is about the basis from from
the from the New York Dolls original basis

531
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:14,760
who fell into drugs and alcohol and
will say what, became a Mormon and

532
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:22,119
moved out to Utah and it's an
interesting and then he got very sick and

533
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,800
the New York Dolls reformed I think
this was like in the early twenty tens

534
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,679
or something like that, and had
a concert and kind of helped him.

535
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,280
And it's just an interesting story of
redemption and stuff. And it's just a

536
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,400
super interesting documentary. It's called New
York Doll. I actually have seen it.

537
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,679
I own it on DVD, and
I would just if people are interested

538
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:42,519
in that kind of music and that
kind of story, that's a pretty good

539
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:47,480
documentary. That's it. Okay,
Well, I don't really have much because

540
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:52,760
we had our retreat, which was
fun. I did finally. I've never

541
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,199
been able to shoot ski at all, and I made contact, like I

542
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,199
did it. I can. I
like to shoot targets, but not I

543
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,679
can't do the like moving target.
Isn't it gray when sid explodes or whatever

544
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,559
it's called. But yeah, it
finally happened. And the guy who helped

545
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:13,599
me was like a zen master.
He just spoke in my ear weird things

546
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,000
that got me to think the right
thought and it was beautiful. I did

547
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,760
not go with you guys shooting,
by the way, Oh no, I

548
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,119
went. I tried to go fishing
instead. How'd that go? Not well?

549
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:28,360
Because it was raining like crazy.
Also, our six foot eleven staff

550
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,800
are also caught multiple fish I think. By the way, speaking of impressive

551
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:39,440
people on staff, Kylie Zempele excelled
at every sport she did, whether it

552
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:49,000
was shooting, football, baseball,
or whiffleball basketball. It was pretty the

553
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:53,679
most fun one axe throwing. Oh
yeah, okay, he is our best

554
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:59,079
athlete by far. I was very
impressed. Yeah, super competitive. I

555
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:02,639
just love rewe on our team and
say something about our team here. Yes,

556
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,679
it is interesting to see you really
get a person to a person's I

557
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,119
don't know core when you watch them
play sports. And when we started playing

558
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:15,559
basketball, you could see that we
were like that. John Davidson and I

559
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,679
the older people on stuff. I'm
much older than him probably, but I

560
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,599
would rather have died than not get
him. My wall and trying to look

561
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:25,760
at John was the same way,
even though I know our six foot eleven

562
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,760
basketball hero could have beaten us if
he really wanted to. John's like almost

563
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:36,119
dying and he's just grabbing onto him, like done his back, like fouling

564
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,559
him, trying to win. But
and then of course yeah, oh yeah,

565
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:43,719
she's Oh she was impressive. Um, I liked that Sean Davis and

566
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,960
I were playing table tennis, but
there were no ping pong balls, so

567
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,320
we just used a variety of other
balls to do it, and it all

568
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,239
like totally worked and including whiffootballs and
tennis balls. And I liked that idea

569
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,000
that like, we will just make
something work if we're committed. Yeah,

570
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,000
oh, it's interesting. Anyway,
he just said a lot about us.

571
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,280
One of the people I was talking
to said, you know, because he

572
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,480
hadn't met everybody, and he said
that when you get a group of our

573
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:14,639
size together, there's going to be
someone you don't like, and he was

574
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:20,360
just blown away that he liked everybody. Interesting. I like maybe fifty percent

575
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,320
of the people. Well, I
also feel like I should mention that beverything.

576
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,920
I liked everyone. Yeah, no, yeah, I totally just blew

577
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,360
over. The Bedford got married this
weekend to an awesome lady, Sarah Westwood,

578
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,000
and that was awesome as well.
So we wish them our best.

579
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,079
I'm going to the yea, yeah, yeas tonight. Are you familiar with

580
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:40,119
that band? I am familiar with
that band. They've been around a while,

581
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:43,679
right, and they were a New
York band, I believe. Yeah,

582
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,639
actually, yeah, yeah. One
of my best friends went to college

583
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:49,199
with one of the people in the
band, so I saw him play like

584
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,400
in college. And then I have
seen the Yaayas before and Karen Oh is

585
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,400
like a revelation live, so I'm
really looking forward to it. But tonight

586
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:04,039
is their opening night on their tour
this year, so I wasn't sure if

587
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,280
that means that they'll be like getting
their kinks out or whether it'll be really

588
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,760
good, but I'm working for it. I'm sure they practiced before the tour

589
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,840
will be fine, okay. And
then my other update is that I made

590
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,920
it through Exodus and I'm already in. I'm into Leviticus. We got some

591
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,400
mail on that that was interesting.
Yeah, oh such, Yeah it was

592
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,199
good, and recommendations of things to
watch or read that I will do.

593
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,639
But I'm really committed to just this. Is that like Joshua just killing it

594
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:37,079
and King I haven't don't spoil for
me. I want to just experience this.

595
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:42,239
So right now we are just on
like processes for sacrifices, and I

596
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,159
think we'll get to the you know, food and sex stuff later, um

597
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:52,360
whatever. I think I recall Aaron's
kids get in trouble for something but I

598
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:55,360
just I want to read it with
fresh eyes. So I really question a

599
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,880
theological question, do you have any
qualms when you're reading the Old Testament about

600
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,960
all the violence that is that God
commands the juice to participate in, including

601
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,320
the genocide of certain ethnic minorities and
things like that. It just doesn't seem

602
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,159
very compatible with Jesus's message in the
New Testament. Is this a good question

603
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:21,760
for this podcast? It's too big
at this moment of the podcast where we've

604
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,800
got like a few seconds to have
up. But no, That's one of

605
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:29,280
the things I like about it is
thinking about the parallels between the Old and

606
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:36,440
New Testament and the consistency between it, even about how sin requires sacrifice and

607
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,360
how that is understood by the ancient
Hebrews, and how that is understood when

608
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:45,960
Jesus talks about the New Covenant,
even just that whole thing covenants and how

609
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they operate and how, oh,
I do have to say, one of

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my favorite things is, so you
know, Moses does all this work to

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get the Israelites out of Egypt,
and literally within hours they're grumbling about how

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this wasn't worth it. But I
also how God is grumbling back at how

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loser all these people are, and
how he just wants to kill them all.

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And then they're grumbling back, and
then Moses is like, could everyone

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please calm down, We're gonna be
okay. You know, It's just like

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a very real situation. And I
like the the personal nature of the relationship

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between God and the Israelites, like
Moses is mediating between the masses and God

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himself, like you know us,
especially with the golden calf story and all

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that, right, is that that's
what you're mostly talking by the way that

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blew me away. Think about all
that Aaron has done up until that point.

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And then the moment the people get
ye get a little like, where's

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Moses, what's going on? And
then he's like, well, let's let's

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build a golden lf and worship it. It's like, what are you?

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You've done so much? Why are
you He was like, yea, let's

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he was like, yeah, let's
do this thing, like everyone give me

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your earrings and stuff. It's kind
of doesn't mesh with what you've heard about

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him earlier in Exodus, right,
I don't know, But I also like

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how it shows that God is faithful
even when his people are not, and

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then to your question about like all
the I mean, it's we've got a

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lot of blood at this point,
particularly where I am in Leviticus. But

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I think again, it conveys the
seriousness with which God takes this relationship with

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his people, and also that He
really is protecting them for this greater thing

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which is revealed in the New Testament, with the incarnation of Christ, his

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life, his ministry, his death, and his resurrection. But reading it

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as a salvation history just makes a
lot of sense. And that's what I'm

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really enjoying and getting out of it
right now. Thinking Aaron's kind of like

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a pr professional, so he'll just
do whatever he's told. Kind of Variety's

638
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just a spokesperson. Oh, interesting
way to think of it. Yeah,

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No, I like that. If
anyone has any kind of suggestion on this

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topic or wants to send us a
maybe book book suggestions on how to think

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about the Old Testament violence in Christian
ended and how they're compatible. Well,

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yeah, and that's good. Sorry. Yeah. At Radio at the Federalist

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dot com. Radio at the Federalist
dot Com thinks this reminds me that my

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friend that I've made through this podcast, the one who told me that I

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had experienced a Lenten fast by getting
sick, and who thereby inspired me to

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do this project sent a note this
week about how great Luther's commentary on Genesis

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is and how like deeply Luther gets
into it, and how what a fun

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read it is. It's like eight
volumes, it's verse by verse, and

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I do want to read that.
And I told him I want to read

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it, but I really want to
just like read straight through for now,

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and he said, yeah. Every
time I make a suggestion like that,

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it's like saying to someone, hey, nice swim you're having, would you

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like to carry this heavy rock on
that swim? Like I just I want

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to. I do want people's thoughts
on Genesis and Exodus, but I can't.

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I just have to keep a file
of what to read afterwards. Right.

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Our co worker, our colleague,
John Davidson, recommended a book because

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this is the kind of conversation we
get into on retreats after a few drinks.

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And the book's name was called.
It was called The Religion of the

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Apostles Orthodox Christianity in the first century. And this sort of thing interests me.

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Historical dimensions of of of of of
religion Anyway, I think we've we've

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gone way off track here, but
these are interesting topics. Perhaps will we

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visit them next podcast, But until
then, the Lovers of Freedom and Chios

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for the play
