Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the fire Escape cast. Cracking a drink
during my intro? Is you already it's spilling? It's overflowing, It's all
over my hand in it went on my keyboard. Do you already need a
paper towel? I can just wave my hands when wind can do it.
Eric, I'm just thinking more about your keyboard than your hands. My keyboard
is fucking filthy, you know it. You know that's a nasty I take
care of my stuff. It is nice, rubb. Do you see grub?
Do you see grubs? Is this game's morning mess? I see no
grub here? Look at that. Probably get a new one from like a
company sponsored every like three weeks, and then you throw away your crummy one.
Yeah, that's how I get That's how I get it up these days.
Raw dog keyboards, disguesting it doesn't make sense. Maybe not the year
it would make sense to you makes It's the only thing that makes sense to
me. It's a penis thing, all right. I forgot that you have
to have one of those to get those, Yeah, to get my keyboard.
Dick jokes. It's episode sixty eight, not sixty nine. Yet we
just reference that during a fallse intro to make sure got some very fun announcements,
as it were up top, or rather more cementing some announcements. It's
that time of year when we're getting toward your favorite Game of the Year show,
our fourth annual. If we count the one before we officially okay,
twenty twenty, wait do we do? No, no, no, twenty
twenty would have been the first one. One twenty twenty two. Yeah,
this is the fourth, but we weren't officially fire Escape with the first one
yet. We called it that it might be on YouTube to stety even it
might as well be. But this is our fourth annual. But we also
did the halfway through the year one. Yeah, this is our fourth annual
Game of the Year live stream attorney. We called it that. We are
descending on Minneapolis December mark Get out your calendars right now, get out your
planners, your pager, well pager wouldn't tell you a day, but get
out whatever electronic devices you need to mark down Saturday, December sixteenth, live
from Minneapolis. It's the fire Escape Live Show Game of the Year Extravaganza from
Dan's game Dungeon. From Dan's game Dungeon. No, we're gonna in the
bar from Dan's game Bar. There's no games in there, there's no screens
in the bar. From going to there Dan's Liquid Bar. It's Mary,
Dan, Mike, and Jake. Cool judge Jake with surprise guests. Also
what No, I'm certain I know what you're doing. But we're gonna have
guests when we don't have who's gonna show up? We don't don't deliver?
Okay, well we have. We have someone impersonating a pretty famous person,
just such a literal you suck. We will have four of us in a
room. That is who you will see on camera. No other being besides
me, Dan, Mary, and Jake is going to be there. Show
is going to be so good you'll swear it rose from the dead ghost person.
This is all over hyping. We'll have dogs. We can promise dogs.
That's uncomfortable. I'm in. I don't like over HIPing. I like
promising. Over delivery is all I do. We're going The ghost of a
famous celebrity will be in attendance to offer his thoughts. We bought a wig.
He's talking. We bought a wig. That's it. I want to
manage expectations here. Doesn't know about this yet. Well, you're the one
who's already talking about it. He was not talking on specifics. We bought
Jake a wig. Well, his hair is going to be cool. Yeah,
his Hairbly said, Jake, cool. Judge, Jake, don't do
your hair. It doesn't matter. Yeah, you can just shave your head.
We need to put the wig on. We're gonna glue on like Joe
dirt. Save money on your your wax for the next month. You won't
need a Minneapolis or your palmade whatever you use. Row it out. Jake's
probably a palmade guy. He's a Depper dan Man, Depper dan Man.
No, it'll be us four December sixteenth, Minneapolis and Dan's Bar, talking
games. And we got a few new categories already this year. We're still
working on the actual run a show. I'm sure it'll be really fun if
you want to be in uniform, as it were our dorky Christmas sweatshirts crew
necks from last year. If you go back and watch our live stream for
Game of the Year twenty twenty two, you could see our sick, dorky
Christmas sweatshirts, which, if you don't know what that is a reference to
Dan tell them what that reference is to go. I had a dream once
when I was in college that I was at a party and a girl offered
to give me a hand job, but she referred to it as a dorky
Christmas. She said, Hey, do you want to go somewhere just me
and you and I'll give you a dorky Christmas. And for some reason in
my brain in my dream, I knew that meant hand job. So you
can get that sweatshirt again this year. If you already have one, get
a second one. If you already have to get one, get your your
your part. That one's got crumbs on it, like Dan's keyboard, your
elderly father one, and don't tell him what it really means. And let
him wear it to the grocery store and on to cribbage. And also know
one at the grocery store or cribbage will know what it means. I feel
that's what's fun. A few thousand people know that what well? I actually
have a question, but I'll continue on the promo reel for now. So
yes, December sixteenth, Uh, if you go to Patreon, our fourth
wall, our dorky Christmas sweatshirts are officially on the market. You can go
get one now if you want, I'll put it on Patreon. It's also
on fourth Wall or no, just go to fire skate merch dot com.
But I'll also put it on Patreon. If you're a patron and want to
get a reminder, I'll put it on there. Yeah, we're looking forward
to it. We've talked several times, and I feel like we say this
every year. I truly think this year will be quite a bloodbath for number
one Game of the year, the entire way up, like for sure,
dare oh yeah, definitely, but I think number one like this year.
Honestly, all four of us, I could see each of us having a
different number one, Yeah, I could. And honestly, I'm ready for
the fight this year because I changed the giant bomb format to the points based
Eurovision style thing when I came back, because I like, what does that
mean? Noticely, it's just straight up modeled after Eurovision. You know,
it's just like everyone has their own list of like the way we're going to
do it is, you know, we we put our top five together and
it's you know, we we're go ne this during our live show and we
basically it's like grand like Mario Kart Grand Prix scoring, where it's like my
number one game gets twelve points, my number two gets eight, my number
three gets six or something. That's what I do every you're a polygon too,
I didn't know that vision, but we make a big, like visual
thing of it. Like I'll go up to a podium and be like I
give my twelve points to blank, and then you see the numbers change live.
So we don't even know what our game of the year is until we've
all gone up and given our points versus like, so like, it's not
going to be a fight there. I like the presentations to all that friends
there, but us, we might we will kill each other in my bar
in a couple of years. Last year was what were all of our game
of the years? Hades was twenty twenty one, No, it was twenty
twenty, was twenty twenty eighties, I thought that was twenty twenty one?
Return Returnal was twenty twenty one. Yeah, so Hades twenty twenty, Returnal
twenty twenty one, I believe twenty twenty two. Last year was what did
we give it to? Last year? Fucking what was oh hard for?
It took a while I just saw it the other day. I took your
photoshop when me and Mary were hanging out from the fuck was it? Mary
said it to me. Hold on, let me pull up Mary's text because
that photo I had of you Dan at that bar was when you were posing
in front of it. Uh do it at a bar? No? When
I photoshopped you into that photo of me and Mary at the bar? Oh
right, right? How are all of our memories of garbage? I don't
know. I drink a lot. I do too. Yeah, yeah,
I'm scrolling that. I got the doc here. It's not poople order.
We gotta bring that back. Oho. Wow, oh oh, it's fucking
elden Ring. Oh that's right, because it was between elden Ring and Dan.
I remember we argued with you, but it's about at elder Ring versus
what was our number two vampire survivors? Right, and you compared it to
like a bardough to like a cheese sandwich. It's not what I did.
I don't know what play back the tape. Wow, those probably weren't the
foods, but that's what you did. You compared it a nice wine to
like something cheap that you get at fun. Sure. Yeah, Yeah,
this is amazing. This is very telling about this year because I'm looking at
our top ten from last year. Okay, here Elden Ring and Vampire Survivors
throw out some names. See if you can guess the other eight. Oh
god, I'm so bad at this lately, especially like now that a Polygon
I helped run the game to year, I forget all the games. The
number one Elton Ring, Number two is Vampire Survivors. What do you think
name out games anywhere that you think are on that The other eight on our
top ten? Did a Resident Nobody come out last year? Resident seven?
Because Nobody Saved the World two years ago? Yeah, Nobody Saves the World
was number three. Yeah, and that game's really good. It's really good,
But like, I don't think that would make top ten this year.
You know, this year are so stacked so last year we're discussing last year
any games from number three to number ten. Last year, there's a lot
of time Loop stuff that was twenty twenty one. Never mind time Loop was
twenty twenty one. Who I was twenty twenty two? Super forgettable outside of
no, no, we're just stupid. It's kind of no, it's not
on here. Looking at this makes it look pretty forgettable. I got to
look to look up polygons. No, well that's oh you are okay,
ex not order. Just try to try to name anything Nintendo nintend Oh my
god, a Powerwash simulator nope. Fuck, Why did I think that would
be in our top ten? That must have been twenty twenty one, because
I would Lamb it was full released last The Lamb is number six. Whatever
above, call to the Lamb. This is a family feud here. All
right, we got the number six on the board. I'm trying to think
like stuff we argued about. I mean, was it a good year?
I mean these are good. It wasn't subjectively games to this year, but
it was definitely like a lot of like medium hype games that got like that
we got excited about because there wasn't much else. Oh Stray Nope, Stray
was last year, but it was not on our top ten. Oh my
god, we are so like five months ago or eleven months ago, We
argued, Shooters, this is amazing. Oh oh, there was a time
one that we were fighting over Dan and I really liked this time like jumpy
game and when you're competing over time. No, it was called like white
neon like white white, it's something stupid neon white Umber five God time though
it killing it. You called it a time game, and yes, it's
about time. It's all about time. It's a speed run game. It's
not a time loop. And what do you want in the game? Which
number four? Yeah, you don't have number four? We have one,
two, three, five and three? Was Nobody Saves the World? I'm
surprised this was No, it was good. This is a good Nintendo games.
It's probably some puzzle bullshit. What's that? Uh? Every everybody like
like gott the Rap sniffed this game, but it was not the Rapture.
It was witness stop interrupting me, chances saying our ship and you're there,
Oberd return. That was like six years ago. It wasn't that good.
Wasn't that good? Uh? What's the one where you keep turning back time?
Twelve defelve number one? Yeah? Uh okay, so you're no,
so you're it's realistic graphics and you have to go back through time and for
solving a murder and forgotten city. And everybody looks, well, I wasn't
listening to you. You have to speak up. You have to speak up.
That's not for god. Maybe last year was more forgettable than I'm I
think it's our brain. I don't think. Is it a platform exclusive?
Is that what John? It is? It is? So that's a genre
you've mentioned in the last five minutes. A shooter. Mm hmmm, action
adventure m hmm. When was Wretchet and Clank rifted apart? That was two
years ago. That was like twenty twenty one. It was like early Weller
was like the first Guys five exclusive thing like two years longer than that was
like twenty twenty one. But it's an exclusive. Uh, it's Nintendo.
We haven't brought up a Nintendo. They always get at least one in a
year, like every year they get at least one. It was a Metro
primary Mester this year to Mario Wonder Bros. Super Mario Bros. Wonder This
year there was a Metro. There was a Metroid last year. Oh Fusion
that was two years ago. That was our number two. What Fusion was
a game from like Dread Dread, Yeah, two years ago. That was
two years ago. Last year, that was two years ago. It was
our number two game two years ago, number one maybe no returnal and then
metro dread I think I don't know, was a while ago. Yeah,
uh fuck? Is this fun for people listening? We're not live. I
think it's possible that people are screaming into the radio of their car. Oh
yeah, everyone has better memories than us, Tunic, it's not okay,
what get what genre? Give us a hint? It's a mic genre,
a strategy game. Oh god, this is your fault. I'm not gonna
remember some fucking war machine Garbo? Was it total war war? He having
three early last year? That is number ten. Oh you wish you got
that high, little bitch. We would never have let that in the top
five. How dare you strategy? Oh, it's like a JRPG or turn
based thing. We muted your mic when you argued for it. Now,
I'm trying to think if there's one other strategy games came out last year,
like turn based Tactics, Real Time Strategy. Only fought so hard for it
you cried, and you know what you mean. That's not a yes or
no question. Mm hmm, it's all of those. Oh wait, it's
not no fire almblems this year. You probably begged us to put this game
this high. It is a tactical game. It's the Mike genre. What's
the one x com ship Chimera? Man, you such genuinely no idea.
Do you know what it is? No, but I don't need to because
I didn't fight tooth and nail for it, because I didn't fucking here about
it. Fought tooth and nail because it's strategy. Mike, You're the only
one who does this. The game doesn't have a bumble bee? Whose friends
were? They get together? And there's only one person made this game of
what twenty five? Ye there? Oh my god, it was brutal streaming
in equation? Oh no, she like ten minutes you earned that? Man?
Oh no, fuck off? Holy shit, that's the neatest thing you've
ever done to her. And you threatened to murder her like fifty times.
I have no fucking clue what this. Goddamn gamers, this is not fun
for people. Tell that's what it is. I'm over it. It's a
it's an exclusive. Is there a Nintendo Tactics game that I'm forgetting? Firebom
was this year? Firemom e Gauge? Was there a fire Blemlesh No?
Oh, Mario plus Rabbits far Hope, Yes, Oh it was really fucking
good. The only one fighting. I know, That's why I was killing
me. The marry was like it's obviously Mike fought tooth and nail for that.
Like, now, I'm pretty sure I thought for that. I think
I I think I was okay on that game. I don't think I cared
for it. Well, I mean right, the fact that it's number four
is crazy because like I liked it, but like number that's that's insane.
Like, yeah, it was a slow year for sure, and so I
enjoyed. I'll read the whole list here, so Elden Ring, Vampire Survivors,
Nobody Saves the World, Mario plus Rabbit, Sparks of Hope, Neon
White, Cult of the Lamb, Signalis like Tiny can A, Strange Horticulture,
and Total War Strange Horticulture. Okay, that's a really good list,
but no, not the most memorable year. No, I mean, Strange
Horticulture was cool. I'm amazed it was top ten, Like that was just
a nice game. We had a varied list. Yeah, we also fought
tradition a lot last year. Like there are games like it wasn't there like
really big heavy hit or triple as that we didn't talk about was rag last
year. It was probably we didn't get that in a word that did win
the It's Not Poop board, and it's not return this year because I absolutely
have a couple ones that I'm putting on there. Like when you go into
anyone who wins the It's Not Poop Award, I hope they like walk into
their studio and they just have like a trophy. I don't know where they
got it. It's not poop award. It's just it's a it's a poop
emoji with like a Ghostbuster's cross through it. I was gonna say, the
trophy could literally be anything as long as it's not poop. Yes, yes,
but banana. It's funny. But why having played my first Pickman this
year, I've never touched a Pickman game four that I remembered until Pickman four
and looking back, having no idea that like tiny Kin was absolutely even sort
of in the name aping Pickman, Oh my god, extremely that. But
now that I've played a Pickman game, like, oh of course, like
that's tiny Kin sort of even sounds like Pickman almost like that, and tiny
Kin is is very good, but it ain't it's not Pickman. A few
games are Pickman for Yes, this game this year will be bad. It's
gonna be it's a crazy uh just we're not done. But the run of
show already, the amount of games that we're like, oh, we have
to talk about this game somewhere is lush. So there's just a lot of
options this year to discuss. And I think we might have to invent a
couple categories because I think all of our categories are invented, but we'll have
to make up some new ones because there has to be a way we can
talk about some of these games that won't make our top ten but are so
awesome. It's like a disservice that it doesn't it doesn't get some lights somewhere
or do like a specific thing really well but might not be the best overall
package. Yeah. Yeah, we hadded a few new categories already. We're
still working on flushing it out, but Dan and I are in there right
now because because I'm thinking about it, I can't not. I if I
forget, I'll regret this. And I love doing this, like coming up
with categories and filling stuff out. This is brutal, this is not fun.
Rating I'm Sorry, I'm being bad. I've been adding stuff this week.
It's pretty rude. Okay anyway, Yeah, there'll be it'll be fun.
That's December sixteenth. My favorite part is, like in document form,
I can be a real bitch because nobody knows if it was me or Mike
or Dan, and so I get to like really be an ambiguous like that.
They would do that the things we forgot came out, it's Mary.
Let the record show that. There's no way to confirm or deny. Oh
no, did it? Yeah, you're signed in under your personal Dan and
I yeah, it just says this was Mary right here. But that'll be
Yeah, December sixteenth, that'll be fine. Dan. We are streaming it
live on twitch dot tv slash Dan Reikert. Yes, and we'll on the
fire Escape YouTube for the BOD so you can't make it live, which will
be at Dan's Twitch channel twitch dot tv slash Dan riiker It'll be up on
a sorry fire Escapes YouTube channel on polygtton no okay b It will also be
up as during the normal episode slot for episode sixty nine on the whatever then
following Monday is and that's going to be open to everyone. Normally we do
seventy. Normally we do video for patrons only, and but this will be
it's our Game of the Year goes out to everyone, and it's we do
it every year. So this is like no different than what we've done every
year since the dawn of the inception of fire Escape, which is that this
is our annual Everyone gets to see it and you can also enjoy it live
because we want you to spectacular. The only big difference is if you want
to see the bod we have a YouTube channel now, so go to fire
Escapes YouTube channel and subscribe there and you can. There's also some really a
good episodes of Rezi on there with the there. That's why we started using
that channel. Hell yeah, yeah, subscribe there and a few weeks we'll
have a big old chunkie. We'll see how many hours long Game of the
Year thing we got going on. When you get some shitty jelly beans or
anything, yes, o shot, I forgot about that. That's coming back
to me now. Yeah I end up eating like, yeah, it was
like a donation and you ate like the rest of them. We crossed like
ten thousand dollars or something, and then yeah he did I can't handle it
so much that she puked. That's just irresponsible. It was because one of
the jelly beans is booger, and I I've said this before, that's like
my one. For whatever reason, it makes me yack, like thinking about
it. I thought it was a band aid, so band aid was That
is disgusting too, because it has like a blood thing going on. Yeah,
but it's that's probably also trick can trigger it, But booger will trigger
my gag reflex immediately even thinking about it. I don't know why it's my
one week funny because I eat my own all the time. My achilles bogger
don't if you talk about it, where does that come from? Because you
always hear about the kid that ate his booger is on the playground and stuff.
But like, is it a the kids think it tastes good? Or
is it they don't have a place to wipe it? Or are they like
putting together a ball of it like a ball of gum and taking bites out
of it like an apple? About it? He's marry. He's trying to
make you. I know, I'm just having a conversation for intellectual purposes.
We've talked about the game spot bathroom, like I when I think about it,
I want to vombit, like I can. We found out who that
was, though, didn't we? No, you've only you've only assumed and
then deliberated and accused. I know who it was in my heart of heart.
It was someone I already don't like. So do I know that it
was? Oh yeah, yeah yeah one of the like three people I've ever
like actually talked badly about. Drew Scanlon. Yep, you don't, dare
you? The proverbial doesn't even have biggers. He's just a pure soul.
He really is one of those people that, like, I've never heard anyone
say a single bad thing about Like, no one finds annoying, no one
finds rude, bad thing about Drew. They're bad, like they're a bad
person. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, like we're bad people.
Like we're talk I could see people being very annoyed by us. Yes,
I see people about us, and everyone's like, I understand, I
can see why you would think that, But when you talk about Drew,
everyone's like, fuck that person. Yeah, you know what you I have
accrued my enemies over the years, You've earned them. Yeah, I work
for them. I thought about this, and I actually think about this often,
not often, occasionally It's funny having cats all the random shit they do
that is passed down from their ancestors to cover their tracks in the wild.
Domestic cats have held on to a lot of habits that domesticated dogs haven't because
cats aren't as removed behaviorally from lions and panthers and shit. They bury their
poop in litter or sand or whatever they have nearby to bury it, which
is like an instinct to cover their tracks. So in the wild animals predators
couldn't track them like the bigger thing on the food chain. They do the
same thing. If you've seen like people with cats will know sometimes if they
drop a piece of food out of their mouth on the ground instead of eating
it, they'll like do burying motions on it, like it's just instinct,
even if there's nothing there to bury it with it. I've wondered if there's
some weird ancestral instinct that does serves a similar function when you eat your own
boogers to like cover your tracks. You don't want to leave boggers behind for
people to find you. Man National geographic has really gone downhill, you're run
out of stuff to talk about. Yeah, well, I don't know.
I don't know why there Like there is enough people in the world that have
eaten their own buggers often enough where it's become a thing that like people do.
Do you think a lot of adultence it? I know I've seen it
entertainment. Do you think we all have those? Is it's the forbidden fruit.
It's just a gross little thing on your face, and sometimes drainage comes
out of it. I just think that we're like instinctively probably getting in there.
I don't fucking like thinking about it. I don't want to know about
it. I don't want to look at it. I don't want to assume
it. But do you think, but do you think that anyone's ever like
accrued their boggers into like the shape of a steak and cut it up with
a fork and knife and like the barbie you saw some change the subject talk
about Cat and I were talking about butt plugs. You go. Really we
were talking about how quickly like you learn what butt plugs are all about,
like you go from your your your butlug on second conversations that happened when it
was not recording. Yeah, no, here's my question. It's kind of
like an email question. What other things similar to butt plugs do you go
from being a rookie to an expert in by using it? Like for one
second, like, oh god, I'm an expert in butt plugs. All
of a sudden, I get you do it. You've understood it. You
can't skydiving. No, you're not an experts. You wouldn't be doing it.
That's just like understanding the thrill. Well, that's all butt plugs like
butt plugs, sky divings like butt plugs. You do it once and you're
like, oh, I get it. I like this is what this this
is what I've been missing? How did you? How do you get here?
You asked me to change the subjects because you want to tell a booger
steaks the idea better. It was like a fountain, like a cheese fountain.
But that's disgusting, and they wouldn't fountain it wouldn't. You have to
think about it. Do you think it would if it was running, if
you had a cold, it might be running the idea like a golden coral
chocolate mountain. Slamming the fifteen second forward button on Spotify. Right now,
we're hearing the podcast fifteen seconds forward. That is a good idea. I
mean, I feel like I don't want to joke about drugs, but there's
probably some drugs when you do it, like similar to butt plugs, you're
like, I'm never going back. Huh. For the record, I was
showing him you were making beauty blender, which is just code for but tell
you told me what it was. I was like, wow, this is
a very just open conversation, like check out my new butt plug for the
radio. For the radio listeners. This is a beauty blender that just arrived
today and I'm really excited about it. And Mike was like, what's that?
And I said, your girlfriend knows what this is. No you didn't.
You said it's a cute little butt plug. And I was like and
then I was like wow, interesting. And then you're like your girlfriend,
I mean, your wife knows what it's like. And then you said,
yeah she does. She does. But it's just a beauty blender. But
like they do kind of they probably have that appeal to them. I think
that's true. Well, there is is Okay, there is a product that
is supposedly for massaging your neck. But my Amanda was telling me that a
lot of women. It is a thing you buy at the store like Brookstone
and it's a neck massager, but in reality you're buying it to use it
as a vibrator. Whether like do you think like people would use like rumble
packs people I have. I've got like a top ten controllers that are best
for rumbling my bumbles. What's number one? The p S three controller was
great, wouldn't it be the Wii? You can get the Wii in there
right, Yeah, you're in there too, So the p S three is
like a jackhammer if you put in the right spot. I'm going to c
town in like five seconds. My horny teenager just get perked up so quickly.
And by that I mean my horny thirty two year old. Why do
you think my PS three is always hooked up? I was wondering, Yeah,
it was weird. Destruction is always running. He's got these like you
always keep controllers. I just have a save file that's ratchet with one specific
weapon that makes the bump the rumble go crazy. You get the tape over
the circle button. You imported the uh or you got the prototype boomerang controller
from that E three. Yeah, anyway, all personal massagers are the secret
weapon of women. You're all being replaced. I'll take all the help I
can get. Good. That's very that's very cool of me. So there's
no use fighting the future. It's happening. Oh, I've accepted my My
d is gonna get replaced one day by her second place trophy. And she
loves you first place now, but someday she'll be she'll be all over some
robot vibrator from Brookstone. What do you think Brookstone has knockne on a business
yet? That is kind of shocking. Brookstone is completely run on vibrators.
Sales every February just shy rock. Yeah, it's yeah. Imagine going into
like the airport sharper Image, which is next to the duty free shop.
You get your duty free bottle of Kolua, and then you go next door
to sharper Image, and there's a poster there with a woman like smiling,
like a very suburban looking woman smiling, and she's holding a like a little
sheepish smile. Are you bored? Is your husband not doing stuff? Buy
this vibrator. It's two in the pink one and the stink. It gets
you there whatever you need to podcast where if you're flying tonight, I'll get
you there. It's great for fold up and your car. That's not what
they marketed as. They market it as a massager discretion. Yeah, you
don't want to be buying. And then the lady's holding it and she's like
this, it's for massaging for something that helps you poop, and they're trying
really hard not to say it helps you poop? Is pro is? That?
Is that that? No? I mean like, oh, it's like
this yogurt like didn't uh Jamie Lee Curtis do a bunch of that like poop
stuff, but they didn't say poop. Yeah, the dan and uh probiotic.
Yeah, that's it where it's like they dance around the poop. It's
good for your protective system. It'll show like a waste and it'll show like
it'll show like material dots like going through and it'll be like, oh,
how seamless it is, And it's just like you're just showing me feces.
B roll of a geyser train going in a tunnel out of the tunnel,
yeah, out of the train going into the tunnel commercial Yeah yeah, yeah,
I was gonna say a train going in tunnel is the butt plug commercial.
It's a pretty gnarly butt plug insert in the tunnel. Honey, I
got you the train Exclusive butt Club. We just watched North Northwest, not
just watched a couple of years ago. We watched north by Northwest for the
first time, the Hitchcock movie. And at the end, it's like the
dude and the lady get together and it's just like fade to train just going
into tunnel like directed by Alfred Hitchcock. Smart. Smart really makes you think,
Yeah, I think I didn't pick up on that, and I think
BOMK brought it up and I was like, oh, that was a sex
thing. I always enjoy when there are cuts to something happening in nature or
whatever, when it's implying the sex scene. It happened recently in another movie.
I forget what it was. I remember a cut. It's the only
thing I remember about this movie but me myself and Irene. I remember there
was a cut where Jim Carrey is like squatting down and like it yeah,
and they cut to like chocolate serve coming out and like, you know,
scooping up into a cone and it's very very effective. It's honestly the only
thing I remember from that movie. I saw that movie with my parents.
What was the gimmick? Did he have a multiple personality and multiple personalities and
one of them was like a real degenerate piece of shit, and so it
wasn't another one like a marine drill sergeant, though one of them was like
a nice, normal person. It was Renee Zellweger was the love interest.
Okay, wow, wonder if this holds up. I doubt it. There's
not being great back then. Yeah, wait, we should watch it,
scratch. Let's just watch me, myself and Irene in Minnesota now on the
stream. We won't be able to show you it or you can't hear it,
but you will be able to listen to our live reaction. Yeah,
you'll be able to see. We'll have CCTV of our reaction. Well.
I speaking of movies that I would want to watch when we're in Minneapolis,
I'm just thinking about Rocky. Have you guys watched Welcome to Wrexham. You
know what it is? Either of you the you know? Ryan Reynolds and
Rob mcleenny bought the previously a sports team, the League six Sports Team professional
sports team in Wales and in England or in the United Kingdom, you can
climb up the ranks basically. I like, theoretically you could start in League
six climb all the way up to the Premier League, which is where you
know you have your Arsenals and your Chelsea's, your Liverpools, your Man United's,
your Man Cities. They bought a like found not a floundering but a
team that's been stuck in League six for fifteen years. They made a documentary
following them as they did it, and then following the team and getting to
know the town and the people and the players, the coach, et cetera,
the manager, I should say. And second season just finished this week
that we're recording. I think it was like November fourteenth. It's the finale
of season two. And they start towards the end with the instrumental of victory
by P Diddy and the family. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, I start
going to distance with I like to think of it as just Biggie and then
P Diddy parton that as great yeah yeah yeah, duct taping, Yeah no,
it's good. But then midway through, because Rob mclhenny is a big
from Philly, diehard Eagles fan. He's from Philly. Did it's always sunny?
Obviously he created that. Uh. Halfway through they actually like faded into
the actual Rocky victory. It's really fucking good. But we should do a
lot with those. On the first one. Yeah, while we're in Minneapolis
are Yeah, did you send me? Send me the infough We'll see how
much time we got and I get in it. Yeah. I get in
like early afternoon on Friday. Yeah, cool, Okay, we'll have some
time. That's lots of time to watch me myself and Irene. That's true
three times. It's like three and a half hours long. I remember it
came on two BH. Really that's unnecessary. Fair Brothers Comedy. What are
you? What are your guesses on minutes? Uh? Nin I'm eighty five
ninety It is an hour fifty six, which is too long for that.
That is way too long for that. Something About Mary is two hours and
ten minutes long. Absolutely unnecessary. I wonder if that holds up. That
was kind of a like Something About Mary was a moment in American comedy,
Like people were all about that movie. There's a couple of problems I can
immediately think of when it comes to like the aging of their something. All
I remember that is hair like the hair thing. Oh well, no,
do not know the joke. No, it's it's come. Oh he was.
He was trying to whack off before a date because he wanted to make
sure he lasted long in case. No, no, no. The advice
was, you won't be cool unless you jerk off before the date, because
you'll be because you'll be antsy and stuff. Yeah. So he's whacking off
in a bathroom right before the date and he comes and he's like looking around
trying to find it and yeah, yeah he can't find it. And this
is like in the aler. Yeah, and oh it's so yeah so uh
fun just like you describing these sequences. He opens up the door and she's
like, is that caragile? And she grabbed it off of his ear.
Scoop said, it's dangling out the ear. Yeah, puts it in her
hair. Yeah, that's that's the whole thing. Yeah. Interesting. The
first thing I ever saw Cameron Diaz and was the mask. That's I think
when everyone found out about Cameron Diaz, you ever forget No one did.
No, It's funny how everyone has that reaction to the max. Very absolutely
didn't you claim that I said for me, and you guys manipulated it.
I specifically said that I was wildly turned on by the mask because somebody waiting,
Wait did you say first smoking? Somebody stopped me? Is the mask
a spo? Was alrighty? Then alrighty? Then he also did like a
glove, like a glove her two when the monster truck Yeah, yeah,
no he flips the car and then sees the monster truck. Yeah. I
didn't hear you a person. I thought you said alas catchphrase, my wife
famous mask catchphrase? We should watch the mask? Would that before I watch?
I'm curious? Should watched? Help dear? Oh god, I want
to watch before you watch before every podcast. You're obviously not right in the
head. Tonight you brought up butt plugs, but dazzled you brought up the
butt plug. Sitting on a PlayStation three? Now the controller, the console
doesn't vibrate the place three would do anything for which is smooth and like round?
Yeah, it depends on how you use it. What would be the
most fun console to sit on? A game cube? Handle up? Oh
yeah, okay, between the cheeks handle yeah, trying to think Super Nintendo
and it's box. The sixty four has that like little curve that might go
right at the cheeks. All right, the Xbox God, the original Xbox
No, nothing from Xbox Oh too sharp, the corners will get Yeah,
yeah, absolutely no. Next time you see Philip, be like, why
are you designing your consoles specifically not to go up my butt? I'll tell
Grub to ask him that next time we interview them. Yeah, it's a
hardesty question. You can claim it, you can take credit for it.
I don't. It's too pointy. Maybe the play D eight you can't just
oh with the small one it's a crank. Oh yeah, I don't know
what it would do for you. Something and something other than just a box.
I mean, I think like a PSP all. This seems like I
would have heard. They're all hurt. You're not playing the game, They're
all not about gaming. In that moment, you think, an, what's
the what's like the longest vide? No, never mind, I don't know.
I just need to move on at this point. Who's hosting this?
What anything? Anything? Has been going on in your lives? Mary?
Talk to me, baby girl, what's on your mind? Just go toy
stuff. I think we're kind of trying to get as many games under our
belts before and I am similar to you last episode. I got sick this
week because I've just been jetting all over the United States. I think I
finally, like my body finally quit on me, so I like had to
stay home all week. I wasn't cool at all this week. Actually,
I mostly hung out and quarantined. I had to get my groceries delivered because
I didn't want, you know, I didn't want to gang one sick,
so I had to I had to order. I had to do Instacart and
got all my groceries delivered. That's probably the most exciting thing that I did.
The first time you've used Instacart. I really don't use it often because
it's expensive and really I like to pick my stuff. And I don't like
even in real time when they like text me and they're like they didn't have
this, but I'm going to get you this one, and it's just like,
but I don't want that one, Like I have a system. I
also like to pick out my produce, you know, like I have when
Okay, I'll give you an example. If you do an Instacart, you
don't get to say I want an avocado and I want it to be ripe
in three days. Right, you just say avocado and whatever they pick is
what you get. And it's just a bit of a gamble. So when
I got my instac cart, I asked for two avocados, and one was
like, you're not gonna be able to use this savocado for two weeks,
and the other one was you should use this yesterday. And I immediately had
to decide that I was going to make tacos that night because I had an
avocado that had to be eaten. So like the stress of like the instacart
of what they're going to give me. I mean, even when you get
to pick it out, like fruit like stresses me out. And then like
I'll buy a thing at Costco of like strawberries and it's like I love strawberries
and I'll buy it. I'll have like four of them or something, and
there's like thirty left, and like three days later, one of them got
super like yeah gray and shit grown on it, and it's like, well,
I'm not going to eat any of these now because that's all fucked up.
So yeah, I mean, to be safe, you can, but
you can also eat ones that like aren't near it. You're fine. I
meant no, doctor, but yeah, I think there's so if you want
to go above and beyond Dan, Yeah, here's what you do. When
your fruities come from instacart, immediately take them out and put them in a
whatever a container. No, you put them in water with like a scoop
of baking soda and like shuffle them around and give them a good shake rou
and get all it gets all the bugs, and it gets like dirt and
like little bacterias off of them. Because people always tell you to wash your
fruit. The secret, though, is that if you wash it the second
you get it home, and then you put it into like a nice storage
container, you're gonna help preserve it just like a couple of days longer.
And you can also tell in that process when you're doing it, you'll be
able to tell if one of the fruits is like kind of soft and like
midgy and you're like that's the last long eat it right, then just like
get rid of it, you know, yeah, and then you'll have the
ones that'll preserve it. When I do that, my fruit lasts like five
to six days as opposed to two to three days. Okay, that sounds
super helpful. Baking soda seems unnecessary, but what's cool that it is like
the carbonation of it in the water really helps. Like pick off stuff that's
on your fruit. And okay, anyone will tell you this, but like
if you ain't washing your fruit, like are you are eating gross stuff?
Because I at least do that check it. You know, so you gotta
wash it. But if you do it when it gets home instead of before
you eat it, just do it as soon as you get home and get
all the bacteria and gross bits off it. Okay, speaking of grossed up
in bugs, I had a moment. I think it was during I was
like podcasting a giant bomb or something, and I felt something on my back
and I went to go itch it. This was yesterday, god, and
I grabbed it and I was like, what is this? Like a skin
tag? What is this? And I pull and it hurts a lot?
What the fuck? And I pulled so hard, like really really hard.
I felt my skin stretching out. It wouldn't come off and it hurt super
bad. And it was like, that's the fucking skin tag. I'm gonna
have to like figure out a doctor thing and find time to get there or
whatever. I was like, wait a minute, let me ask, let
me ask monk. And I went up there and I was like, hey,
is there like a skin tag here? And she's like ooh, it
was a dug in tick like this big time and I had been playing and
she said it was all like black and blue around it where I was pulling
on it because I was pulling so hard, let go, And so we
took a I'd heard that like if you light if you have a lighter and
you hold it up to its butt, it'll freak out and like back up.
But the only lighter we had was have we seen those electric ones?
There's like usb ones that like yeah, it's like a pull and the little
thing it's for like lighting candles. And I was like, here, this
is the try this and so Bunk took it to my back and like the
little like zap thing just went through the tick and he was like like,
like died. So now I've got this like on fire dead tick in my
back. It's still there. Yeah, so that's the thing. Like it
was still super dug in, so it's like just roasted corpse in my back.
I'm just sitting on a toilet basing the wall right now as you're talking,
it's still in your back. No no, no, no, probably
like probably I don't know away red or whatever. Yeah, I pulled a
tick. I've gone camping a lot throughout my life, and one time I
went to McDonald's for breakfast the next day and I like felt it along my
waistband and I like saw it like doing this cartoonish like legs flailing as it
was trying to get deeper, and me was like, I don't think so.
I actually slept that in the middle of this McDonald's. I was waiting
a line to get mcgriddles. I was like, I don't think so,
and then pulled it out and flicked it towards the bathrooms, just pulled it
right out that far in. Oh wow, there suck. There is another
way. I forget what the the hack is to get them out. Besides
fire was put like a like a it's not ver some it's like some sort
of like nail poly fromover or some some household thing that you can like put
over them and I don't know if it steals it and they die or back
out to get air or something. But yeah, did I tell you about
the one of my ball sack. No, no, I don't think so
let me get a beer and I'll tell you. Hang, Okay, I
don't think I've ever had a tick. I I've pulled ticks out of dogs.
That is like a standard of having dogs, as I definitely happened.
I have had to get rid of them on my animals, and I have
like, uh removers stuff that like they it's like poison and as soon as
you spray it on them, they're like and they get out and die.
But I've never had any on you know, my balls, my balls.
So I was like thirteen, like peak like, oh, it's awkward teenager
going through puberty. I don't want people to know about my balls. Don't
want people to think about my balls. Nothing like that. And the Smithsonian
Institute was on tour, Mike, that's where this is going. I immediately
have no clue where this story is going. I don't know how it plays
in either but nowhere it's going. But I don't know how you're going to
get there. I mean, I was never a woodsy kid, you know,
growing up that much. So it's like I went to the Smithsonian Institute,
I saw the hat Abe Lincoln was wearing when he got assassinated all that
stuff. And then I went home and I don't remember what I was doing,
uh, but I noticed something on my balls and it was just a
tick dug in on my scrot them. And Mike you had a question,
Yeah, why why did you mention camping? What does Smithsonian Institute have to
do with camping? Well, no, I'm saying I was not. So
like, it's not like I was out wandering through the woods or anything.
I was literally like a museum in Kansas City museum and you came and found
a tick on your on your balls. Yeah, And I remember like telling
my mom that, like I got a tick, and she's liked, were
you in the woods or anything. I was like, no, it's at
the Smithsonian Institute and uhcond long joke, No it's not. Is just a
real story. And I was like, Mom, what do I I was
kind of freaking out because again, don't want anything weird going on with my
ball sack at any point, much less at thirteen. And She's like,
well, you're supposed to. I'll do it. My mom always did,
and so like I had to fucking thirteen years old just drop my pants and
the I remember sitting on a stool and yeah, in the kitchen, sitting
on a stool, pants around my ankles, and she took a needle and
a lighter and lit the needle and made it super hot and then was like
on my balls, like fucking put it up against the ticks ass to scare
it. And I don't think it came out. I remember her taking tweezers
to my balls and a lighter and a needle, And this was not a
play. There's a kick in there. This is a bad, bad situation.
You should send her a card, like, I know that was bad
for you, but have you ever considered your your mother's perspective? Have you
ever considered your mom, who was probably like thinking about what she was going
to make for dinner and her son comes in. She just wanted to watch
twenty four or something ball and she got a fucking lighter and looked at her
son's nuts and pulled a tick out, Like your mom is a good mom?
Yeah, I mean, is this what you sign up for when you
have kids, is having to do ship like that? Absolutely not. She
had no idea that she was ever gonna pull a tick out of your fucking
nutsack and it's a great and thirteen years and nutsack. I never even questioned
it. M Oh, it's like that's like me right now doing that to
a kid. Well, to my kid, I like, yeah, God,
you're gonna get the authorities that cut that cut that whole thing out.
I didn't come out like I meant to. Yeah, but yeah that Sony
Institute. Yeah, I gotta tick my balls. But but it's out.
Did she get it? Oh it's not there anymore? Will you never finished
the story? Oh? Yeah, you actually got it out? And just
what it was? Tremendously uncomfortable? What was the u the solution? What
did she like? I think the fiery needle eventually got it. Oh that
wasn't her first thing. Yeah, I don't remember the specifics, but she
got tried peanut butter, she try gosh y, all sorts of weird archaic
methods, just the worst. I think I've turned into kind of a softy
with like any kind of animal stuff. I remember, like as as a
kid, you know, they were like bugs in the house. You know,
whether it is spider ant or whatever, and you just kill it,
me stop it or whatever, you know, like kids, young boys do
that shit all the time and don't think twice, and like, I don't
know, ever since I met Bank, she's always the type like, oh,
there's a lady bug in the house, she is going to like super
gingerly put a cyrofoam cup over it and take it outside and let it free.
And even like spiders and stuff, and like, ever since I met
Bonk, I've kind of become more like much software about that stuff. It
was like, Okay, I don't need that, Like I love but ticks,
that's all to say. Ticks, no remorse. They can fucking die.
Yeah them in mosquitoes, anything that can like genuinely like of a mosquito.
My dog is severely allergic to all sorts of stuff. If a mosquito
got into my dog's blood, it could genuinely cause a severe allergic reaction.
So anything that can attack my dog I consider a personal a personal attack on
me. And so I will kill anything that takes blood, that can bite
things like that. But you know, bugs in the house, I do
my best to scoop them up into a little jar and take them out.
Now, I think that's I think I've always been like that, though I
really don't think killing necessarily if you can avoid it. Yeah, killed the
deer with a shovel. Once you killed the deer with a shovel as a
joke. Actually likes as well. Shot elephant in my pajamas. What he
was doing in my pajamas, I'll never know. Nice that. I'm proud
of that. Proud of you. This is not like a funny story,
but it's like there were those memories that like super stick with you. And
and there was a moment when I was a kid, and I don't know
if I was eight or something, but my grandpa let me like use his
BB gun and he had the woods behind his house, and I remember sitting
back there and like there was a target and stuff, and I'd shoot the
target with the BB guns and stuff. And you know, I knew up
hunting. A lot of people in my family hunted and stuff like that,
and obviously in Kansas it was a big thing, but I'd never done it
myself. And there was like a crow or something and it landed on a
branch near the target, and I was like, oh, I could do
I could see what like huntings like. And I shot the crow and it
fell and it died. And when I said Grandpa, Grandpa, I hunted
a crow or I hunted a bird, and he took me out to like
go clean it up and stuff. But we stood over it and there's just
this dead crow in the in the ground or on the ground, and my
grandpa just looked at me and he goes, well, do you feel like
a man now, Danny? And I said, and I went I was
like no, he was, that's right, like it was. He didn't
say anything. He wasn't pro or con or anything. He just said,
you, does this make you feel like a man? And let me think
about it? And I was like no, I don't know, Like I
wasn't even thinking about it before. And I was like, oh wait,
no, I don't really feel good about this. And that was like,
yeah, sounds like a really cool guy, and that's a really good lesson
to teach you. But you had the opportunity to do something really cool as
a kid and be like, yeah, I want to kill more now,
Grandpa, and like really just shake him, give the small animals right,
get me up there? Yeah, it is it is. And I wasn't
like I've heard yeah, And it wasn't out of any I didn't intend like
it wasn't like I was excited about the idea of hurting this crow or anything.
I was just like, oh, I could do hunting, you know,
I've heard of this, and then kid would instinctively if you give a
kid a stick, the first thing they're probably going to do is hit something
with it. Right, These are like instinctive children things. If you give
a kid a gun, even if it's a BB gun and something's moving,
I could see any child tempted with the idea of shooting it and seeing if
they could do it. I don't think that's necessarily evil. It's probably just
like an instinct that we have when we were given a weapon, which is
why we had to teach children what to do when they have weapons. Yeah.
Yeah, And all of it is that one moment of my grandpa just
making me think about it per second, and I was like, oh,
yeah, I guess that doesn't feel good and like, oh man, it's
dead now, because I mean, like, that wasn't like yeah, I
got it, you know, it was like, Oh, compare that to
me, who never ever was allowed to like touch a BB gun growing up.
My parents would never put any weapons in my household, and I had
never even outside of movies, knew what guns were. It's really not something
I would ever come in contact with. And then in college, probably my
junior year, one of my like friends of a friend was like, I
have a I bought a fucking gun, and I'm gonna go to the range
and I'm gonna shoot it. And I was like, I want to also
shoot this gun because I've never done it before. And instinctively, when I
got my hands on my first gun, I had to hold it sideways and
bload it like really fast like it was because I was like, that's what
I think is supposed to happen and feel good, and so I like boiled
it sideways and like unloaded all six like bullets immediately and was like ah,
and then we hit every target, right, I mean I hit nothing.
And then when they were like and then I looked at them like laughing,
and they were like, all right, You're done, and I was like,
oh right, I'm an idiot. But I I didn't have that gun
back. No one taught me how to hold it, and so like,
to a degree, while I don't think we should be making sure every child
has a gun, I don't think that's the case. That's our platform every
child gun, make sure they all have one. What I guess what I'm
saying is is like the knowledge from being able to hold it with a responsible
person that explains the danger of it and maybe like dispelling the coolness of it,
that it's not cool, that it's powerful, or that it can do
so much damage, or that you could kill something with it, Like you
learn Dan, that's extremely important to learn young. And I wish I had
learned as a child that when you have the opportunity to have a gun,
that you never mess around with it, because I just was never. I
don't know, I mean, you should probably just naturally know not to hold
a gun sideways, but I couldn't help it. Yeah, people that actually
like know their guns and stuff are extremely serious about like oh, trigger discipline
and just just general rules like you never do this, like people that take
it very very seriously, Like there was a responsible way to do that.
But I did it with a bunch of eighteen year old ding dongs. That
ain't the way I had a bunch I like you guys know, I have
like generations above me of military parts of my family, and then I had
when I was pretty young, my grandpa and is hundred acre woods and like
uncles would take us out, like teach us hunter Dinker Woods one hundred acre
woods. Oh okay, that's less funny. Okay, man man always go
to hunter Dinker Woods like Humperdnker Woods. Yeah, what is this? Yeah,
my grandpa's from Texas and you own humper Dinker Woods. And that's where
we unloaded all our glocks. Yeah. We bring rifles and uh and whatnot
out and they would teach us like how to use them safely. Yeah,
I mean they also show them where they were stored though, so a lot
of people to take out six of one. I don't know they were doing,
but yeah, I uh yeah, I don't. I don't think it's
super safe to uh shoot a gun sideways. In fact, I'm pretty I
know it's not. I've dual wielded pistols before. Handguns. Don't ever say
we don't have range. On this podcast. We can talk about gun safety
and shoving a we mowede up your ass within like fifteen minutes. Yeah,
our listeners are confused. They've been skipping fifteen seconds ahead and there's a lot
of whiplash when that happens. Are they still horny? I'm talking about gun
safety. Now. I'm not horny anymore. I am. That's the only
way I can get off these days, specifically gun safety. Yeah. Yeah.
My man is like, yeah, put the safety finger, finger off
the trigger. Yeah. I shouldn't do this, man, I'm sorry.
She's a guess. Lock the safe, Lock the safe. It's so personal.
Do the background check, yeah, do the background check. You guys
will talk about video games. Oh right, yeah, don't put that in
there. But after the cough, can you make it like a machine gun?
Jake? Can you make it so it does it like ten times in
a row real fast. Have you guys played more Allen Wake two? Yeah?
Yeah? Good? Is that good? Yeah? It is. Here's
my thought on that is, I was just talking to Bok about this,
and I have had not had a lot of time to play games in the
last couple weeks because I'm setting up Game of the Year and all that stuff.
But I am like sixteen hours in Alan Wake now I'm done with like
six chapters with both characters. And it is messy. It is a messy
game. It is. There are parts that are just kind of weirdly balanced.
There's bugs. I had the game breaking bug the Espresso Express bug.
I don't know if you've heard of that, where like one of the cards
won't move out of the way, and it's a thing you have to do
to progress, to give a circuit board to make the parade float to a
thing and all that. So I just straight up, yeah, I straight
up couldn't progress, and so this stuff is frustrating. But I was thinking
that, like, I would take a million of these games that are bold
and weird and trying completely new things, and I can honestly say I've never
played a game that feels like this over a much more polished game. In
the game that always came to mind when I was thinking this was Gotta Wear
Ragnarok, where it's like that game the most polished, the most expensive looking,
the highest production value. It is fucking polished. I don't know if
I ran into a fucking bug in that game, none of that, but
I felt nothing playing that entire game. Whereas Alan Wake two, I've been
frustrated. I've been like, why isn't this working? A guy, I
can't even progress here? Oh this is acting weird. I need to actit
the game and come back, or this isn't clearer or this seems this boss
bites balanced weirdly. Ultimately, there's so many times though that I've thought like,
what a fucking cool idea, and they are nailing this, and this
has such a bold identity and I will take that over the predictable polish of
a lot of Triple A games any day of the week. It's fucking awesome.
Oh yeah for Remedy to be I might have mentioned this last episode,
but they've always felt like that underdog studio that's swinging way bigger than they have
the budget and scope for the fact that with Control and I've gone back to
Control since Ellen Wake two, but especially on Wick two, they've got that
maybe not God of War Ragnarock budget, but they've got like a triple A
budget now and they're still being weird with it. Is so fucking like hardening
to see. I wish more games for studios were doing that. I get
that Remedy has carved out this niche for themselves and they've you know, it
sounds like they were pretty selective when they were talking to Epic and now you
know, like when they are having these partnerships and whatnot, it sounds like
they're very selective because they want to make weird shit that they might just well,
I don't want to spoil anything. Ell'm like, two, we got
to do spoiler cast with this game once you finish it. I love the
like I mean, Dan, you were texting me, You're like, oh,
this is the section you were talking about, isn't it. I'm like
yep, and You're like, I'm it was like two am, You're like
this is this is incredible. I'm fucking loving this so much. And I
worried that it was overhyped because like when I hear things like oh this one,
you know, even like the headline, I'm polygone if like, oh
this you know, fifteen minute stretch, it's like one of the best,
you know gaming loans of the ear I know you did, And like even
even like just hearing that stuff, it's like, Okay, I know the
name of the chapter and just so like as soon as I see it pop
up on the screen, I'm like, Okay, this is supposed to be
the big chapter. Wait to make fun of mic when it's not that good.
Yeah, And I was like, oh my god. There were so
many times in that whole stretch where I was like, what a cool,
funny fucking thing that is so uniquely video games, you know, in the
way it's interactive. God damn it, that game is so fucking good.
Since where I just finished the nursing nursing home stuff. Oh God, yeah,
yeah that gets it's creepy going through basements and yeah, it's Oh man,
I'm I'm I'm in love of this game and more and more so every
time I play it. And I remember a summer Games Best people were talking
about it like a demo very well, and I remember like I got an
opportunity. Somebody worked on the game was like, hey, do you want
to come check this out? And I was like, I gotta go do
a thing or whatever. And I wasn't super interesting in checking it out because
I didn't love the first one. But I am so glad I gave this
a chance because it is so like it almost makes me want to go back
and play the first one, just because I'm actually like into this story,
in this world now, in these characters. I don't expect it to be
anywhere near what this one is. But God, going from not on my
radar at all to like a high up game for me this year, I
did not expect. Yeah, Mary, have you gotten did you get farther
into it? Or I'm in but I am, but I'm not as parts,
not these cool parts. So are you? Are you sticking with saga
mainly? Still? Are you did you get did you get to the point
where you can swap between you can? Okay? Cool? Okay, I
can experience up there? Weok it picks up there. And that's also where
like some of the frustrations come up, like I really I still don't like
this stuff with Alan I have I have to be I have to be on
my mental game to play this game. And obviously, uh, there are
lots of games where I enjoy the fact that it's going to challenge me.
It's just that I'm not always in the mood. Sometimes I want to drink
five beers and play a game, and this isn't actually the game I feel
like I can do. This is the game where I'm like, do I
want to solve mystery? I'm gonna do it. You know, I had
to really be on to play this game, but it is enjoy Some of
those stashes are like there's two or that are algebra puzzles. Y, I
know I'm not doing this right now. Sam Lake and Kyle, you don't
like no puzzles, No puzzles, now puzzles. This is like, don't
fucking be full math, you bitch, Like, how could you possibly expect
me to do full math? It's it's dangerous what they're asking of regular joes
aka dumb dumbs like me to do after a full work day. I'm like,
are you asking me to do math right now? Yeah? It's like
the show, Uh it was that game show back in the day. It
might I don't think it's still going and I forget a channel it is down,
but like, are you smarter than a fifth grader? Oh? Yeah,
yeah. They would have adults come on and compete against fifth actual fifth
graders in like math or history, the shit that they were learning that they
are learning in fifth grade, And you think back, it's like, well,
obviously the kids are gonna remember it, but it's like it's just to
show that, like how much for adults forget and how much kids retained in
the short term. Like that's not thinking back. It's not a compelling show.
But it's like algebra, I don't want to be fucking doing this,
And I the second one, I actually wrote it out. The equation I
realized I remembered more than I thought I had. But fuck, like whatever,
I'm getting off topic, my point being, it's very funny to me.
I love talking to Sam Lake and I love interviewing people from that studio
because they just do this weird shit and you can tell so many times in
that game they were just having a blast kicking or like they were like there.
You could definitely tell where they showed some restraint in this game, but
not many times. And I love the fact that there are these two algebra
problems for these puzzles, where like Resumel four would have been like shoot the
glowing thing nearby, and allen Wick two has that to the tenth degree as
well. But it's like I want to know who in the writer's room or
on the design team is like what if we made like But that's funny because
they call back to it. It's like the cult themselves are like, who
the fuck did this? Locked? Very yeah, it's not super precious about
like, oh, we got to make sure these are like this serious blood
cult, Like there's a door, key notes and stuff too. It's it's
it's one of the funniest games I've ever played. Honestly, yeah, Like
it's sense of humor is incredible and super unique, and it pulls off something
that I usually bristle at, which is whether it's a movie or a game,
like when the creator shoves himself in there, Like I always even like
it, just like Killers the Flower Moon and there's a part where it's like,
oh, why is Martin scorse as you just suddenly hear it's that's weird.
And also game makers like the fucking who's the Joseph Paris, the guy
that did Brothers and all that, Like there's this stuff and like it takes
two or you look through the telescope and you hear him saying, oh fuck
the oscars or whatever. It's like, okay, this seems like Selp and
Agent in a dumb way. Sam Lake every time he's in this and he's
like a big part of this game, I'm like, yeah, okay,
this is good. He fits in this world earnest. He is funny,
it's earnest, and he's going for it in a way that's not just like
m I put my face in the game. It's like no, he's actually
like he's additive to the game. I would say, yeah, I I
love, and I went back to Control him halfway through Control now for the
second time or sorry, I'm doing my second play through of Control since twenty
nineteen, and I bounced off Control. I don't have bounced off. I
had brute force my way through Control in twenty nineteen, and Mary, I
will say, I still don't like Remedy had the same problem in Control.
They're not always great about signposting where you need to go next. I don't
mind it as much in allen Wick two because I like the world of allen
Wick two more so as Saga. I don't mind backtracking through this really creepy,
funny cool like pack Northwest Town or a couple of them. Control,
though, I mean it's so much more Metrovna ask. It's like and the
and they literally there are notes telling you, hey, maps are hard to
read in the oldest house because there are building shifts, and then that doesn't
make sense. I'm like, Okay, I get that they're calling attention to
it, but that map is not great In Control, and sometimes you have
to backtrap to a department that's like six chapters back and across the map.
I'm and I'm I'm loving Control, don't get me wrong, but also Control
is missing that sense of humor that Ellen Wake two has, and like the
I love, I'm very happy I went back to Control. I'm gonna keep
playing it. It's very funny to see how much they were setting up with
aut of Alan Wake two with Control, Like there's the DLC, the AWE
DLC Altered World event, but oh my god, so many notes. Even
in like the first two chapters, you're like, uh, oh shit,
what was the one? Oh god, this is gonna kill me. It'll
come to me. But there's one early on. It's one of those documents
you're reading where they've blacked out, redacted some lines, and there's clearly one
that's referencing something of the part of the Remedy Connected Universe, which again I
fucking hate that. I get really tired with MCU stuff, but we had
Tucsan Egan at Polygen wrote something. It went up yesterday. It's like,
I actually like the Remedy Connected Universe because it's not exhausting. You don't need
to do homework to understand it. It's just fun to like see them doing
the Stephen king esk building out this horror supernatural action universe. It's it's like
fun to connect the dots and that's literally what you're doing a saga the whole
game anyway, So is that like, because I was thinking about how like
I've never seen a game studio do something like this where it's this connected universe?
Is that a is that what that's called with like comic shock, like
the MCU is a Marvel connected universe? Is that what stands for? That?
Is? Okay? Okay? So that is they didn't did they come
up with that? I feel like I just don't really know how the Marvel
works together. No, I mean Marvel took it to the like they took
it as far as like a capitalist movie machine could take it. But no,
Stephen King was doing it with the Have you read any Stephen King?
Uh not? No. I got halfway through it in fifth grade and my
dad thought I shouldn't reate it, so I'm read I'm rereading it right now.
It's so fucking good. But yeah, fifth grade is young that you're
right, but you should read it a lot of movies and seems very good.
Like the shin so the Dark Tower series, he kind of like started
connecting everything in his work and you could see it as being cheesy, but
I like it. I mean, Tarantino sort of did that loosely with his
movies, but I like it in Remedy Connect unions. For so, technically
the only games in the Remedy Connected universe are Alan Wake one and two and
Control. Is Is there any Quantum Break anywhere? Or is that just kind
of forgotten? Oh so Quantum Break and Max Paine one and two are all
over Allan Wake two, but they don't actually explicitly say it because there is
so much Alan Wig or souch m Max payin, like clearly the whole Alex
Casey Alex Casey is and you know, the voice actor playing Al Stacey is
Max Payne. There's all the weirdness with you know, rock Star taking over
for Max pain three. Oh yeah, it's incredible. Take two. I
don't know how the whole thing works out because also Remedy is remaking I think
it's a poorly kept secret that they're remaking Max Payne one and two, So
I don't know how that will come into it. The the kind of loose
understanding was that, yes, Alan himself had written Airport novels about this hard
boiled detective who is now Alex Casey played by Sam Lake the likeness of Sam
Lake and live acted but voice by Still and Quantum Break, and I forget
how this works because I think Microsoft owns that it's on game Pass, right.
That was that was an early effort during when Microsoft like the Xbox is
going to be the all in one entertainment machine, like Phil getting out of
TV series and yeah, that makes sense, like if you're gonna do that
like remedied. Oh they do live action stuff, like, yeah, they're
very cinematic. It makes sense. Technically not part of it, However,
there are many easter eggs alluding to it. The most obvious that's not even
an easter egg is that Sean Ashmore, who played the main character in Quantum
Break is the sheriff and Allen Wick two who gets blinked over to Allen's side
and his last name is just Breaker. That's the same guy who played Ice
Bobby Drake and the X Men movies. So like, they're not technically part
of it, but yeah, Control because Controls set up the idea of these
altered world events like Red House of Leaves or read that that website that Control
was heavily inspired by the Federal Bureau of Control is like the whole thing.
You're at their headquarters in New York City in Control and then they just start
going ape shit with the connections. So I can't wait for Control too now.
Especially there's some cool implications laid in Allen Wake two that's set up,
not even just plot wise, but again like the implications of the potential scope
that Control two could be, which again, the Control two definitely happening.
Yep, there yeahs to be seems like such a They announced that they're earlier
this year for the first time they earth, they announced publicly that they were
a they're now a multi project studio. So they were working on Allen Wake
two. They're finishing it. And again they tried making Allen Wake two back
in like twenty twelve or something, And there are a lot of illusions in
Alan Wake, this Alan Wake two, Like they talk about how Alan Wake
tried writing a new sequel back in twenty twelve, oh and it failed.
And then now there's this new thing that he didn't know about. When he
goes in the talk show, he's like, wait, what is this?
It Like it's just kind of sam like putting himself in a fun way or
like you know, but yeah, they're doing Control two. They're doing that.
They just announced two days ago they had this free to play third person
co op shooter in the Control universe. The art, the concept art they
showed early on was like the people you're fighting in Control, they're kind of
like those nineteen sixties Cold War looking soldiers. They had announced like a lot
of free to play co op shooter based around those people. They announce the
other day that they're shifting it to a premium priced co op game. Oh
okay, which could be fun these days. Just mean sixties seventy dollars.
I don't know if it'll be full price, but it's not gonna be a
free to play model. But yeah, Control too. And I think there's
one other thing they haven't officially announced, and people are pretty fairly sure that's
the Max Pain one and two remakes. I feel like that's like, yeah,
it's a I don't mean it might it might even be public, but
it's it was a poorly kept secret for a while, but might be public.
Yeah, Which is all to say though, Like again, when it
comes to Remedy, and this isn't spoiling anything because every game they've made has
been bigger in scope than the previous one. The ending of Allen Wake two,
a lot of stuff that happens in l Wack two again sets up these
implications that, oh, Control two could be like, if not like big
literally, then like big in scale, as opposed to like Control all took
place essentially in the same building. It didn't really it shifted and stuff.
That was the cool thing about it. Allen Wack two is in this these
confined New York nightmare scape and you know, this small pack Northwest Town when
it comes to remedy, I actually get excited about those implications because thus far,
every time they get more money and more style, they nail it.
Yeah, and it might not be my favorite game ever, but they're trying
new shit Allan Wack two Like, yeah, the angel lamp stuff absolutely gets
messy, the botboard stuff on Allen's side gets messy. As much as I
like the taxi driver neon New York City vibes Valenside, I absolutely think Sagas
is way stronger. And that's the danger of doing basically a game that is
two games like that blur together because one people are inevitably going to gravitate toward
one. But even more or more so, they let you choose how long
you want to play both basically up to a certain point, which, again
a less bold developer would have been like, no, you gotta do Saga,
and then you got to do Alan, then you gotta do Saga.
That probably would have been a more even experience. But I don't know,
the fact that they let you choose what you want to do is nuts.
And then then there's the whole mind place thing, which sometimes can feel like
a gimmick, but it never really fun to me. Yeah, even if
it's like you know exactly where it's gonna go or you've already like solved the
puzzle, I kind of like I can't for that. There, you know,
that's fun. They do some cool stuff with it late game, like
toy with it. There's a lot of good actors in that game, and
I think my favorite one, every time he's on the screen, I think
he's just hamming it up, like chewing up the scenery. So well is
a mister Door, Yes he is so every fucking facial exp and he does,
or when he's dancing or just doing weird stuff, he is. He
so understands what this game and this tone is. Oh and also the Costcala
brothers, they're they're fantastic Jaco and Ilmo. Yeah, that's another weird thing
about this game. I love is just that it's set in the Pacific Northwest,
but there's just finished stuff everywhere, and I they don't explain it.
It's like, yeah, that's the world, deal with it. I love
it. Yep. Yeah. And the mister Door. If you have not
played the game, you don't want like the big thing that Dan and I've
been talking about spoiled And I won't spoil it here, Mary, because don't
think you got there. Thank you when you finish the game. Go to
Sam Lake's Twitter Dan, you could do it after this today. I think
I saw this tweeted something today on November sixteenth. A clip in that clip.
Watch that clip and you'll know exactly what scene is. Watch mister Door's
facial expressions compared to Sam Lake and the guy playing Alan, and they're all
doing having fun in their own way with the scene. But what just watched
mister Dorspace compared to them, I'm like, this is the best man ever
made. Like I love this guy so much. He is he is he
is like the powers Booth in mcgruber, Like, oh, get this guy
to like understand this assignment so well, yeah, I knew how to play
that role perfectly perfect. Yeah yeah, god damn it, that's perfectly cat.
Yeah. But I mean, even like even Saga Melanie is great,
Rose is great. Oh yeah, is a fun weird character. Yeah yeah
right. I so don't give a shit about stories and games usually, but
like I'm in love with this universe and these characters, and oh man,
it feels good. I just I love this game. Yep, yeah,
yeah, I mean I ramble about every time it comes up. I fucking
just absolutely love it. Yeah, Mary, if if you if you bounce
off it obviously like to use their own. This game has some hurdles to
get through, absolutely, but if you keep going, I'm very curious what
you think, because there is some stuff later in this or not even later,
like mid game that I'm like merry of all people, especially like your
resid evil background. I think you love a lot of the stuff they do
with like Saga side especially Yeah, I'm prayed about it. They get very
silent hill later in this game. I think it seems like a kind of
game that would be really good to play with another person. That way,
when I get stuck, they can be like, have you ever considered this
is the solution so that I don't feel so bad when it takes me forty
five minutes to get to the next section. Yeah, I think that would
help. But I don't disagree with everything you're saying. It's obviously like a
just a really well made universe in game, and it has so much depth.
It seems like really fun to explore. I think I'm intimidated by by
the game, to be honest with you, Yeah, there's a lot going
on, But speaking of just very elaborate, there's so much that I'm not
a part of. A lot of the things you guys were talking about are
based on previous games I didn't play. So it's like, yeah, I
well, club, if you keep going, I'm curious what you think spoiler
casts in this, I won't quit. I know Jake has played it.
I think Jake likes it quite a bit. But speaking of games are doing
a lot, Mary, you've been getting more into Wonder. I have played
Mario Wonder. I haven't played a lot of it. I think I've played
three to four hours of it. I think it's really really fun and I
love the co op aspects of it. The ability to kind of just play
regardless of your skill is very ray Man Legends of it. I feel like
they've accepted elements of other co op games in this, where they're like,
hey, it's okay. If you die, you become a little floaty ball
and all the other person has to do is touch you for you to come
back to life, and it doesn't cost you a life. Now if you
don't touch them in time, it costs you a life. But lives are
purchase sibol, so yeah, and the and the currencies. There's like ten
currencies in this game, but the currency for buying lives is plentiful, so
you can easily just get more. So I don't worry about dying, and
I don't worry about dying more than the other person that's playing. It's great
if you have a big division in the UH caliber of your gamers. If
you want to play this with a cousin, you want to play this with
the kid, you can do that and they will be fine. They will
function. Are you playing Are you talking mainly local or online? Because I'm
playing local Okay, I have not played it Local coop at all, but
I've heard complaints about the like crown system and stuff like that. Oh yeah,
locals great, it gets annoying the whole. Yeah, So for those
who don't know, Basically, if you're playing local, the player who finishes
the course for first or hits the flagpole first gets the crown for the next
level, unless the other person becomes a ghost, then the crown transfers to
the other person. The camera centers on the person with the crown the entire
time. You can get around it certain ways, like Amanda and I basically
take turns at the end of each level doing the flagpole first, so then
the crowd the other person I didn't know that, try and destroy each other
and be the highest to get the flag, you know, as gamers do,
and the winner gets the camera because you play competitive because it's like Micromachines
N sixty four like or Smash Bros. Probably more apt comparison, like if
the person with the crown gets too far ahead of the person without it,
they'll go to a far off screen and die. There are levels like the
Rhinos Stampede early on, where if like say Amanda has the crown and she
jumped on the rhinos. She's trying to hold up for me and wait for
me, because I was trying to go get a purple coin. But it'll
the rhinos carry her too quickly and then I'll be caught and I'll be a
ghost it. I don't know what the work around would be. I know
I think it was. Speaking of the Rayman games, Mary, correct me
if I'm wrong. I think they just zoomed out really far. The players
were far apart. They were more generous than this game. But what I'm
saying is, I think it's more generous than I've ever seen a co op
Mario game. B too, for sure. I just yeah, I Raymann
Legends is the king of You can play with the total ding Dong child and
they'll be fine and they'll have a good time because there's colors and music,
but you can actually play the video game. Is this is taking elements of
Rayman. In my opinion, it's a You're gonna notice like people who played
classic Mario will be like, oh my gosh, this reminds me of the
Mario I had growing up, and it's difficult in elements like the Mario I
had growing up. But there's so many leverages that they're giving so that if
you're playing with someone who doesn't know how to game, can be there with
you. And that is cool and something I've never seen a Mario game do
before. I've never seen them be so open to younger players that probably aren't
very good at games and allowing them to have that experience with you. It
will require at least one good gamer, though, I promise you they flirted
with us for a while, like as far as the like, okay,
what if you're playing with someone that's not as good? And in the last
like five to ten years, they've done a lot of the like, oh,
you died several times in a row? Do you want the super duper
leap that gives you the pee wing where you can fly forever and hurt because
you're bad? Yeah? And it's like one character could choose to do it
and I got the super Tanuki suit or whatever, you know, where I'm
never getting hurt. But I kind of like, how wonder does it where
it's just like, okay, hey, do you just want to pick these
guys, you know, Yoshi and Nabit where it's like you can't get hurt
but you're also not going to get the powers or whatever, like, yeah,
it's going to help you out do that. So they just give you
the option to Like, if you're playing with the kid, just be a
Yoshi. You're probably game super kid friendly. It's it's literally I feel like
it was designed for you to play with young UN's and but I can feel
it. But also if you are like a seasoned Mario player, you know,
like me, there is plenty of Like if you're playing solo, there's
enough like if you want one hundred percent everything and get every Purple coin,
you get every Wonder Seat and get the flag pole, and then you do
the super duper you know kind of star Road thing and the Final Challenge stuff
like there is a lot of good platforming challenge. Like I don't think I
would be as into Mario nowadays as I am if they just dumbed it down
and just made it kid friendly and that was the focus. Like, I
think this game should be a template for accessibility. It literally does not mean
easy. It's a fucking hard game when it has the five Flames, which
I believe it's it's difficulty ratings. Similarly to Oh Hot Sauce, ratings.
Five flames means it's spicy. It's actually quite difficult. I've died like twenty
times on a five spice and getting through it makes me feel like I'm really
good at platforming. So the challenge is there, but the accessibility for someone
who is not at the same level as you to be able to enjoy that
experience is beautiful and it never sullies your experience. To get the most difficult,
challenging experience that you, as a professional, super cool gamer deserve,
It's like it should be in textbooks for accessibility. It doesn't hurt anyone.
It's just making it accessible to people who aren't as good. But your challenge
is uniquely yours and they give you credit for it. I've always hated that
argument and where it's like I remember the first time that was a big deal
was like I think the first Bayonetta and it had a mode where it's like
you can just jam the A button and you'll just do cool combos. It'll
just make you do cool stuff, and there is such a fervor and blogs
and think pieces and stuff about it, and it's like, if you are
someone who wants to play that and learn the combos and everything, like I
you know, I do. I love that will make cry and all that.
I'll play on those difficulties and it's the same fucking game. It does
not affect me in any way. I don't give a shit how anyone else
plays it. Why the fuck would I care if I'm just jammed a through
it or whatever, Like, I don't care, Like I that's insane to
me that people get pissed off by that stuff. I don't know if they
still do. But like, ooh, baby mode or whatever, Like,
who gives a shit? Baby mode is cool? Like leave it alone and
enjoy your own challenge, with your own achievements and your own satisfaction. You
know, nobody really ever climbs out well, actually, I'm sure there's actually
a lot of people who climb out Everest to be like I can and you
couldn't. But it's your challenge, it's your journey. So like, if
you're able to do this game on the hardest difficulties with all the max settings,
that's awesome, Like you should really revel in that. But for anyone
else that can't do that but wants to experience the content, it's amazing that
this game allows you to experience every level at the same degree without taking anything
from anyone. Well, does not diminish anyone else's experience, Like you know,
my solo played through one hundred percent of it and did all those challenges
and stuff like, oh great, somebody can not get hurt as Yoshi,
like does not affect me in any way. Able to get up there is
incredible. I do like the idea that I invented a really evil Mount Everest
climber that is, like, only elite climbers can do this, and if
you need help, you deserve to die, like really evil guy. You
do die if you don't make it to the top of mount. But the
idea that if you have this mentality that only the elite deserved to reach the
summit is silly because if you were to like be like, well, we'll
just like put you up there with a helicopter and then you can see the
view and you can enjoy it. That doesn't stop you from your achievement,
doesn't doesn't take anything from you. It's just letting else someone else have the
experience. So I think, to me, like the evil is the idea
that like, if you don't do it my way, if you don't suffer
and bleed and die for it. You don't deserve it is an unnecessary but
also really missing the point because your suffering shouldn't be anyone else. It should
be for you and your journey. And if it if it brought you joy,
if it brought you growth, that's literally for you. You shouldn't ask
that of anyone else. That's just something that you chose to do with your
time. I normally wouldn't evoke a wrestling related story, but it really has
nothing to do with wrestling. That Mary talking about the picturing the evil person
who climb Man. I I was thinking about vins Uman and there was a
real story where he was talking backstage to a wrestler, Matt Hardy, and
there was a character that was like in a wheelchair at the time, and
Vince was just casually saying like, well, yeah, you know, Matt,
It's like, you know, every human being, every strong human being,
has the same inclination, that same natural desire. You see someone weak,
you see someone in a wheelchair, and you have the desire to eat
them. He said this to to Matt Hardy, and Matt Hardy's like what
He's like, wait, you know you see someone in a wheelchair, you
just want you want to eat them. They're weak, they're prey. You
know where the story where they alpas where you know how all of us want
all this way. It's like, what the are you talking about? Monster
of a person that's weird them. It sounds like a real life demon.
Yeah, yeah, he's very well adjusted. He probably hates super Mario wonder.
No, No, he's fucking awesome at it. And I have plued
some co op yeah every time and comments that are like, really, it
shouldn't have like this co op bubble mode if that if person gets bubbled,
you should just eat them. And it's just like, what is your fucking
problem? Years ago, Vince McMahon, when asked why he wanted to eat
people in wheelchairs, responded, because they're there. It's the race to space
speech, he said, Like years ago, George Mallory, the Great Betis
explorer who was to die on Mount Everest, was asked, why do you
want to climate and he said because it is there, and space is there,
and where I going a climate? I'm just imagining him talking about Vince
McMahon eating people in wheelchairs, like we all want to awful it's an awful
distruction of an awful person who five years Yes, do you? I think
about that a lot. Sometimes it keeps me up at night. Someone's going
to clip something that I say on this stupid podcast. It happens. Mary
believes that this is true, believe the Nixon thing or something. Yet I
feel like there's years of stupid context that led up to this stupid moment.
My dad will still text me if anything Nixon related and like a thing he's
looking at or reading about, he will text him like, oh, I
bet Mary is really big out of this. Yes, I might be.
I feel like that discussion is is old and tired and probably doesn't need to
be, like you're tired hung in the fire escape arena. Oh no,
no, you can bring Nixon at any time. I actually meant the discussion
of like whether or not people can who need help to like play games and
stuff like that, it's such a reasonable ass that it almost doesn't deserve merit
to discuss. But I love, honestly that we would compare it to someone
as evil as as what Dan is talking about, because I think they are
one and the same, which is worrying so much about what I want to
somebody else's experience and whether or not it's as difficult as yours is really self
centered and missing the point, which is that everybody, everybody's, everybody's life
and path is their own, and the idea that somebody else is not up
to your standard, uh is actually very weak in my opinion, because you're
constantly walking around trying to express that you're very strong, which I think is
quite telling. It's the most everybody know that you are strong. It is
the guy that calls himself an alpha and drives like a hummer and stuffs are
still around, but it's just tight energy coming off of that. And so
I would just say, like, it's great that the game is very accessible
and it's fun and you get to be an elephant and throw your trunk around,
and so to just bring it back to the video game, I think
that it's a good game and I'm enjoying it went far. We're having flastes
and co op. I get so fucking excited every time I see a wonder
seed, no wonderflower, and I'm like, what is this going to do
to the stage right now? And we're always like every time we touch it
or the other person touches, We're like, what's going on? And then
it's all inevitably just very fun and like somewhere a musical or others are just
like a whole stampede of hippos or thirty minutes of Mario just grind it on
a game cube. That happens. Yeah, nice, Yeah, I got
to keep playing where we're playing that. Speaking of co op stuff, I've
been playing, one of the most fun things I've been doing is not a
video game. It is a board game. Do you guys, are you
familiar with the idea of a legacy board game. I bought Risk Legacy because
I heard great things about it, but I have not played it. God,
you understand it's never played. But yeah, it keeps going and it
evolves and changes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For those who don't know,
it's pretty like Pandemic. Legacy is probably the most well known one.
You you play, you play a board game or a round as it were
at that point, depending on certain criteria if they were met, or just
because you played one round, you and that person will open up this new
Like in Pandemic it's like a locked box, or in Risk Legacy it's like
a nuclear code and it'll tell you in your next game, you now have
to do this new rule, and you sticker. You stick the rule into
the rule book, and you have to follow that rule for the next twelve
It's us like a dozen games is a whole campaign. The idea being that
in Risk Legacy and I Believe Pandemic, you were actually tearing up cards when
you retired them they stopped that. I'm talking about it because a man and
I've been playing Ticket to Ride, Legacy, Legends of the West. Amanda
introduced me to Ticket to Ride. I knew about it. It's a pretty
famous board game, an XBLA game in like two thousand and nine or something.
I've never played it. That was my introduction to it. Yeah,
we've been playing, or we played a round of Legends of the West tonight
before before we recorded, and even in one round, I'm already we're already
really hooked. Because her family played a lot of Tickets to Ride when they
were all living together over the pandemic. So anytime I play with them,
they know like the meta of the game really well. They know which cities
are always useful. They know like the ports that always connect to other ports
for a lot of points. I always have fun, but it's like it's
like coming in playing Mortal Kombat for the first time ever against someone who has
played every single game, Like, sure, all right, I might pull
off some beginners luck things, and I did win my first time against a
Manda, but my record against her is like two and twenty one. Here
though, and much like Risk Legacy, you're building out the map of America
as you play over twelve games starting in eighteen sixty five until eighteen ninety eight,
You're picking a railroad company. You're building out the tracks, but you're
also getting new rules. There's like bankers coming into it. There's a murder
mystery involved that you don't know half of it. I'm not going to spoil
it for anybody who wants to try it out, because it's really fucking fun.
You're there are these like props in the game box I didn't even know
about, and then at the end of the round they're like, okay,
now open the conductor's thing, and we open it and there's like a new
prop that introduced this new wrinkle to the game that I was like, oh
fuck, that completely changes like how I'm thinking about tickets, which if you
played tickets to Ride. You know, tickets are how you honestly like the
meta. You get a lot of points by getting tickets. So yeah,
brilliant. Legends of the West is so basically the person who invented the idea
of legacy board games with risk legacy, the creator of tickets to Ride,
Alan Armoon, and the guy who did Pandemic. They all teamed up to
design this, along with obviously a huge team that worked on it. Really
good looking art soup, like really intelligent, compelling rules that add wrinkles every
game, or I'd say that having played one round, but like I already
it's good enough where I'm already seeing I completed a few basic roots from like
Boston to New York and New York to Philadelphia, really easy roots. They
didn't get me many points in that first round, which Amanda one, and
we slipped the bank slip into our company's vault basically so we can keep track
of how much money we got each round, and that'll contribute now next time,
I'm going first. But also I basically because we retired some tickets and
you're retiring, they're not asking you to tear up the cards like they did
in risk legacy. I think they realized people did not like doing that to
property they owned. I kind of liked the impermanence like perma death of it.
But now you just retire them in a section, so you could potentially
restart I think, even though you'd have to buy new parts. Anyway.
I got these cards that I read out loud. One side, then the
other side was secret, just for me that I have this information for the
next game. That because sort of because of but also like in spite of
the fact that Amanda one, I now have information that can help me next
round that she doesn't really know about and by the time she listens to every
episode of Firescape, so I'm not trying to give her an advantage. But
basically, by next round, I know to pay attention to shares that the
bankers are going to be offering me that she might not know what they're for,
but because I have the information, It's just it's so fun, like
how it shakes up the formula from one round to another based on like the
idea that if humanity were if like our neighborhood just wiped off the earth,
someone could find our box and see kind of see the story of our campaign
just by looking at it is really compelling in its own right. But so
far it's very fun. And last thing, this is not a spoiler because
when you open the box you'll see it. There are several decks of cards
that we have not opened yet that we only open once we've It's like it's
set up like a jigsaw puzzle, so we only have like the East coast
right now. It goes from like New Orleans in the southwest to Savannah in
the southeast, bangor Maine in the northeast. And then I want to say,
I don't evenink we're into the Midwest yet. I think the next thing,
we're adding the Great Plains and then you open the deck for that region
once you add it to the jigsaw puzzle of the map. And then we
looked at later cards and there are some fantasy supernatural elements to this part of
it. You're solving a murder mystery the whole campaign. There are decks.
It's not just like Midwest, Great Plains in a Southwest, etc. Pacific
Northwest. It's haunted wastes. So I'm like, what the Fuck's this is
gonna get weird? And it's like I'm already excited to play more of it.
It's liking it a lot so far. If you like Pandemic Legacy,
or you played Risk Legacy or couldn't get through more, I think the train
aspect and the American expansion might be more accessible to people that aren't into the
war gaming aspect of Risk. It's really fun. It came out very recently,
but I encourage people to try it out. I think if you're coming
from video games into the tabletop space, I think it makes a lot of
sense because Balder's Gate, Threes of the World and Roguelikes of the World,
I think instill this idea of a continued campaign out even once you finish the
game, this replayability, that kind of you can stamp your identity on a
thing. It's very fun. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. Nice.
Yeah, I think a game, a board game that is good for
two players is definitely like that. They don't all fit that bill. And
whenever I find one like you know, Wingspan Bonk and I have played in
a decent amount like it's it's great to find a new one of those.
So that sounds pretty good. Yeah, yeah, try this out. I
highly recommend it. It's it's great, it's very fun. I can't say
enough good things about it. And I'm only in the first of twelve rounds.
Technically, I think we're gonna play and you can add in other players
to it, even though they want to been there, Like my brother in
law and his wife will be here for Thanksgiving next week or this week if
you're listening at the episode now, and technically they won't have been there for
the first five rounds of the campaign. But there are ways the game tells
you, like if you want to add people or like say you can't make
every round, just record the bank slip in that person's company vault. At
the end of the campaign, there will be We're not going to tell you
how right now, their absences will calculate toward a final score. I'm like,
I have no fucking clue how they're going to balance that, But it's
cool to know that they are doing something behind the scenes. So curious.
Yeah, nice, but yeah, it's very fun. I think people check
it out. Dan, what have you playing anything besides Allen Wake I kept
going with David Diver and I continue thinking it's like, as far as the
game that is best to play on a plane or if you just need to
wind down at night and put something on in the background that you're not paying
attention to, Like it's a I don't mean to downplay it, Like it's
an incredible game on its own, right, even if you're given full attention,
but it's like unrivaled in terms of like I just want something to do
on this flight. Yeah, it's so and a good cycle, right,
like a good Oh my god, the Loop is amazing. Yes, it's
fantastic, and it gives you the big things where it's like, oh,
this big event is going to happen in four days, make sure you get
a bunch of tuna or whatever. Like I love it. I love it.
There's like an actual story, like more of a story than you would
expect in this game. And it's kind of a hook, right, like
the idea of someone sick and they need you to make them a soup.
Now the guy at the sushi store can make the soup, but you want
to get the ingredients right now all of them are dried into a child who
makes you guns. Yeah, yeah, that guy. That's Something's so much
personality in that game too, even just like okay, I'm gonna use my
artisanal flame to unlock a new thing, and just saying, you know,
Bancho do his thing. Yeah, it's it's great, and uh, I
guess that kind of rolls into uh talking about playing games on a plane.
Steam Deck oled I covered it to death on Giant Bomb since I went to
Valve. I went to Balve right after we recorded the last episode and checked
it out. I sat in an orb of Steam Decks and went home with
one, Oh, it's killing me because like it was pre released and they
haven't even announced it yet, so I had to. You know, the
thing was like, hey, don't play this in public. We don't want
a thing where like pictures go out or whatever. So it's like, I'm
on this flight going home. This is a very Game's me be a problem
to have. I got to play my old steam Deck on the flight home
instead of my new one. Like his parent's getting puked on by their kid.
Who yeah, and I'm like, well, this could be a little
brighter and lighter, My case could be smaller. Yeah, Like I have
a much smaller case, which honestly, that is one of the bigger benefits.
Anymore, I would have lived in the ORB. Yeah, wait,
hold on, explain that. Just it's very funny that we talked about the
sphere or I guess the sphere. Everybody was talking about the Sphere two weeks
ago or whatever, a month ago, whenever it was new. And then
Valve, of all companies, which Valve pr wise, is really quiet the
last well, it's like inside baseball stuff, yes, but publicly speaking,
it's it's just they don't strike me as a company that would do an installation
like that to the the ORB. Yeah. No, Honestly, I talked
to the guy who made it while I was there, and it was very
much just like a fun passion project thing where it's like, oh, what
if we did this tease where it's like we did this video and the entire
commercial was lit only by steam decks, and that turned into like I could
build this weird fucking rig and just you know, like it just seemed like
they had fun making it and talking to him about it, like they knew
how silly and weird and fun it was. So Yeah, it was a
great trip. It was awesome. I was in and out in like twenty
four hours. But yeah, I've been there a bunch. I've always enjoyed.
Like you said, the valve is kind of a black box in a
way where you know they will let you know when they're ready to talk about
something. And when they offered it, I was like, yeah, I
got to go out there. This doesn't happen all the time, and sure
enough it was. It's not the steam deck too. It's very much like
looking at it from across the room, it would look like the same thing,
but all the little additions. You know, it's lighter, it doesn't
run as hot. The battery life is a big thing. I don't think
that's a little addition the case for me as much as I travel and stuff
like, having the thinner case is important. The battery is huge, but
the screen itself is fantastic. I think it's definitely a much bigger upgrade than
like the switch to the Switch show led. So yeah, I love it,
and honestly it's such a cool, fun device, like I instantly went
to town. Fine, if you already have one, I get it,
I get it, I get it. And if you're not a huge like
display nerd, I get it. Good an initial you know, how much
more is this the base? The base base memory? Is it six forty
nine. Well it's one is it? Five? Twelve and one? Terabyted.
I don't have the press skit up, but yeah, if you don't
have one, Yeah, I'm not going to buy the new one anytime soon,
but if you don't have one, it would tempt me more, for
sure. They're they're great. I love it and I yeah, setting up
all the emulators and all the ship you can do in Linux on that,
like, it's just it's just so much fun. Like even if I like
didn't use a ton of emulator stuff on the old one because I tend to
use my stuff like mister and all that, it's just fun to set up.
It's a fun device to just kind of tinker with if you're into that
kind of thing. And I very much am. So it's a it's been
a delight. I love it. So yeah. Is there any game in
particular that has stood out for on the OLED screen? Eighties? Oh right,
eighties really pops on that screen that is so fucking vibrant and saturated in
a great way. Yes, And that is a you do a side by
side on that and it is very very noticeable. Played I replayed like twenty
hours been on PS five like two months ago, and even on just PS
five, I'm like, God, I forgot how good looking this game is.
It's fantastic and also it's pretty elegant. The way you can just like
take the SD card out of your previous Steam deck put it in a new
one. You do. There's not a single prompt, there's not a single
like, hey, do you want to import? Do you want to do
it? Like? It just works. Everything just worked. So it's been
a smooth, smooth operation so far. I'm big on it. So yeah,
that's been a good one. I speaking hardware, Sony also sent me
the new PS five, the Slim one without the disc distray. No,
it's got it. It's got the distray that has a removal. When they
were first selling the was it the base PS five you can get the version
with or without it, right the base you could choose, and then I
think they're doing something with the Slim where it's like you can get a removable
one or something like that. The one I got just has it just a
smaller in general, like every PlayStation has done before. It's yeah, but
I mean I I shot it. I just I they that is their their
mo is to release the slim version of the console like a couple of years
after. Yeah, but it's kind of funny, like I shot, you
know, we're doing more like TikTok stuff on John Bom and I shot a
shot one comparing it to like the PS three and the PS three slim and
the PS two and the PS two Slim, and I didn't realize it was
going to look this way, but I set them all up on my table
and it looks like that fucking meme of the tiny domino and all the big
ones falling. It was like, the PS two slim is the most slim
redesign. It's so fucking good. And then okay, chunk here PS two
and then it's like, okay base PS three is a lot bigger than that,
and then the slim is like it was just they kept moving up and
this one was not that not that much smaller. It's what do they say,
like thirty percent or something like that. They have a big number.
It doesn't feel that much smaller. Honestly for me. The biggest thing is
like I hate the base on the on the core floating like shock that.
It's yeah, that rotates weirdly, and you got to put those little like
feet into the thing and you to look at like where the symbols are on
the lip and put them in there. Like it's just it's felt very flimsy.
This one. There's like two little feet that you just fucking shove into
some holes and it just sits there horizontally with no like. I got the
vertical stand too, and that's that's actually pretty solid, but I like horizontal.
It just feels much more solid out of the box. And to me,
that's the biggest upgrade. It's not that much smaller. It's still like
the last thing, the last console I would ever want to pack. You
know, it's still got the foldy out flappy guys. You know, it's
going to be awkward in a suitcase. It's the biggest, most awkward console
I have, And that includes the Series X, which is probably bigger and
heavier, but it's a box. It just kind of fits easier, you
know. Yeah, So it's it's cool. I'm glad I replaced the you
know, my my base PS five. It's better, but it's not like
a head and shoulders like like for instance, the steam Deck Old is a
much bigger upgrade than the five. Slim Slim is just better looking, though,
yeah, always better looking. No no, no, no, no
no, no, this though, well, yes, I agree, but
this is like the p S five is ugly as balls. The p S
five is ugly historically bad console. Yeah, the PS five slim is like,
it's honestly like almost as stark a difference between the series S and X
and the sense that it's like an entirely different design. It's rectangular. Now
it looks is rectangular, I mean kind of flares out, you know,
PS five flares the what if I which one am I looking at? Hold
on, maybe I'm looking at like an early fan art. What do you
look? Yeah, this is not a rectangle. I'm gon grab it you
no, no, no, no no, I was looking at some fan
art. Okay, I was going to say, it's not a rectangle.
You ever designed that fan art? Should DESIGNS five's okay? Yeah, this
doesn't look that much different. So it looks like a PS five. It
doesn't look honestly, if I just showed me a jpeck of that'd be like,
No, the launch PS five it's got this weird like black stripe down
the middle, and I keep thinking I have like an HTI cable dangling over
the front. But it's just the black stripe. Cool. Yeah, it's
fine, it's fine, it's better, it's better. I'll say that I
got the PS five really truly might be the ugliest console ever made. I
mean as far as the big ones, like the big consoles. Yeah,
I'm trying to think what's uglier. If we're talking to PlayStation Sega, Nintendo,
Microsoft, MM, I mean, shit, I love the GameCube design.
Some people think it's sup orly shit. PS five might be out out
of those. If we're saying Sony, Sega, Nintendo, and Microsoft.
I almost have like a weird nostalgia for that giant chunky original Xbox. Oh
me too, I don't have. Well, obviously I don't have an instolgia
for the PS five. But the PS five, though, like the Xbox,
it's like, oh, we're making a video game console. The PS
five, I don't know what they were. Their concept was like space age
looking stuff. I think it was just supposed to be like the future.
I feel like they were like, let's make it look like a console from
twenty to thirty. Yeah, but they just did a terrible job, Like
on the execution, you don't really like the PS three. The launch PS
three is so heavy and weird and I don't love it. But the fucking
series S I fucking think is really good looking. Oh with that like in
the circular like vent thing up top the seventies record player almost Yeah, yeah,
yeah, white, I love it anyway. Yeah, we they have
the you said you have the Pulse earbuds on the way as well. Yeah,
I got the portal and they're sending me the portal in the Pulse earbuds.
Yeah, so I'll check those out. Are the Is the allure of
the earbuds just that they can connect wirelessly to the controllers with no idea.
I'll find out. I'll test it out when I get it, But I
I don't know anything about them yet, gotcha, Because the dual Sense right
now doesn't have like, uh air pod air pod air pod, it doesn't
have capability for those or like Bluetooth. Oh okay, So I think the
appeal would be that you can actually hook up the voice chat without like a
through Bluetooth or USB whatever without Yeah, you can. You can use Discord
on your phone. So they're a bit redundant, But I don't know the
full specs but I feel like everyone just says discord, like I can't remember
the last time I used console level party chat for it. And I also
don't just play multiplayer games period, so yeah, yeah, I don't discord.
I use discord like with Jake for Balder's Gate, or like Endless Dungeon
with my friend recently after she's discord it's easier, Mary, What else have
you been playing? I have been playing. Uh, okay, So I
one hundred percented Pickman. Yeah that post game stuff is great, right,
Yeah, I hit I rolled credits this week. I told you guys earlier,
but I got sick. So when I had to stay home Sunday because
I did not feel good, I was like, I'll play Pickman. And
within an hour I rolled credits and I genuinely was like, oh, that's
a bummer. I felt like I would have played another world, I would
have enjoyed playing it a little bit more. That's a shame. And I
one hundred percented it the whole way, if that makes sense. Like I
was one hundred percenting it each level as I went. So yeah, when
I rolled credits, I was at one hundred percent and I figured I had
finished the game. And then my dog got sick, and you have never
seen a girl so happy for her dog to get sick. Ever, I
was like, let's go back. I have to fix him, and I
got to play a whole new area. It was great. The post half
the game is after that, it's it's way fatter and there's like a really
lush world and because you have to change pickman so much towards the end,
because the whole concept is like, have you really learned how you're supposed to
use all these pickmen, because like in this area you really need to use
the fly guys, and in this one you got to use ice boys.
And it's really fun picking and choosing the right pickman for a particular thing.
There was a couple of Dandhari levels where I had to do them twenty times
to get to get the level that I needed. It was crazy how much
it pushed me to one hundred percent, And I'm very proud of you.
Get seven minutes and you've got all this shit you got to bring back.
Yeah, those were super fun. It was crazy. Those are those the
worst ones of those You're like, fuck, I really should have just opened
that shortcut right away, so then get back to the pot or yeah,
or why don't I have the flying guys carrying this pool ball back? Why
do I have these like six yellow pickmen working on that pile of materials right
now? That's right, there's like eight bosses right there. I have a
dog, he'll dig that right up. You have all these second guesses,
and you really push yourself when you're trying to get the one hundred percent right.
It's one thing to get through it. It's another to be like two
min max getting all of these items. I have to be perfect. I
can't have any pickman wasting time. Ever. Yes, and you used to
be very thoughtful about where you're putting everything. I really felt like it challenged
me. And in a moment where on a day where I was actually quite
not great. You know, I was sick and the day I was getting
my groceries delivered and so like I was, I was like, I can't
even leave my house. I'm miserable. Bring me avocados. Bring me an
avocado, and I don't know if it'll be ripe or not. Three days
from now it must be ripe. I felt like all of my happiness was
poured into pickmen and hoping that I could like finish this game, and when
I really did finish finish it, I felt a large amount of accomplishment and
appreciation and respect for that game. I've never played a Pickman before. As
my first Pickman, this is the first time I really felt like I connected
to a game and one hundred percent. You know that I never one hundred
percent games. I never I'm not a completionist. That's really not my thing.
I play games until I'm satisfied, I move the fuck on. This
was like the first game where I was like, I have the time,
I'm not going anywhere. I feel like, shit, let's do it again
and get gold bitch. And I really pushed myself and I felt a huge
pride of it. It's probably what people feel like when they when they want
a Platinum games. This is probably like high platinum game crazy people get,
and I got it with Pickman. So I'm very I'm really into that game.
I feel very strongly bad. I don't think it's for everyone. I
don't think I could sell it to anyone, but I think I could say
what a casual but insane growth trajectory that game has. It's for everyone,
like in the sense of that it's casual enough that anyone can probably like pick
it up and get through it. But the scale where you have to be
so insanely good to get to that degree. I felt incredible when I was
able to get completion on some of those pieces is awesome. It's really really
fun. There is something about four, I think, where it's like I've
played them all, I've liked them all a lot. Four is definitely my
favorite. But hearing you Mike, my sister Kayla, you know, people
that have never played Pickman before and gave this a shot, and everyone like
seems to universally love it, and it's the fastest selling or most selling in
the entire Pickman series. Like, there is something about four that is striking
a court of people. And maybe it's just the most polished, like best
version of Pickman, but it just like makes my soul feel good to see
so many people will be like, oh wow, I tried it out and
I love it, Like it is such a joyable series and the stuff.
You know, so basically, Mary, you did this stuff with all of
our afterwards, right, we're spoiling this. Pickman came out six months ago.
You know, you did the all of our stuff where you have a
set amount of days. Yeah. Yeah, like that. That's like an
old style like Pickman thing where it's like Pickman two, you, hey,
you have to get all this shit. So there is this timer like running
in the background the whole time, and it's a little more stressful. And
we were talking earlier about Mario Wonder and like how it is accessible, Like,
hey, if you just want to see credits or you just want to
beat it, you can play it in this way and do that. But
if you also want to go nuts on it and do the harder stuff and
do all those Dandori battles and get the golds, it's masterful at that.
And Nintendo has just been killing it on that front lately, and god damn
it, Pickman deserves this credit. It deserves the attention. The sales It's
always been good, but Pickman four is easily the best one. I'm so
glad you guys are liking it. It's a great name. It has just
like they have. It's like alchemy, but instead of gold, it's like
such joyful multitasking. And I'm wondering how much of it's resonating with people now.
I mean a it's because it's like the first switch specific Pickman. I
wonder how like obviously, like you know, how many were on was it?
Pickment three was at the WU. One and two were game Cube and
they re released them on the Wii with new new play control. Uh.
Three came out on the Wiu, and then three Deluxe came out on the
Switch, and then four or switch. Yeah, I'm wondering if it's just
because it's the first like big number one on the switch. But regardless,
it's like I said this kind of as a joke, but there is something
to it. I'm like, this game is just like gamified Xanax, Like
it is just it's meditative to the point of being calming as fuck, even
when it's getting tough during dandory bows. I'm like, I it's just like
very fun chores. It reminds me like Sundays at my in my park,
like here on Sundays, or the day when I go around and I take
like an hour to trim and water all my house plants here. M M.
That sounds like a chore. It sounds like you would be a pain
after, you know, weekly after several years. But it's like it is
a joyful chore where I'm like, mall tasking and I'm like just getting that
much more efficient each time I do it, And I know there's such comfort
in knowing that there is as much possible energy going into this one thing and
then also this other thing, and then like everything is just efficient. It's
how it's supposed to be there. It's comforting, it's satisfying. The loop
there. There's something about games this year. We were talking about David Diver,
but also Dredge and Pickment four. These games have just figured out how
to make like a perfect loop. Yeah, And I don't know, there's
that feedback where it's like this is so rewarding and calming and meditative but just
challenging enough where I'm not like getting tired or bored. It's just like it's
not mindless. No. Pickment four is just flow state. Much of it
is just like flow State incarnate. But then there are the tougher parts where
I'm like, oh, like Mary, like you said, I didn't realize
how much I was learning throughout all this game, but then like they test
you and again in these very cathartic tests where I'm like, oh, it
took me eight tries, but it was still just so I'm getting shit done.
It is. Uh, there's there's something to it. I don't know.
That game is fantastic. Speaking of which, Dredge. Actually, I
just saw their DLC is out, the pal Reach. Dredge got like Arctic
themed DLC. I don't know, Mary, have you played it? Uh?
Dredge, Yeah, I got the pal Reach. DLC just came out
like yesterday or today. Oh god, I haven't. I haven't tried it,
and I freaking love Dredge. I think it's really up there for me
this year, so I'm gonna need to. I might try to play that
over Thanksgiving break because Dredge is up there with Pickman four and David Diver of
like I just wanted to loop, I'm in I'm in gody mode. So
right now, November and December are my dates to play games that I know
you guys are going to bring up during Gody so that I can least say
like played them. I can discuss them if you want when you argue for
them. One of the ones that I played is specifically that which is you
guys know. The Game Awards release their nominees this week and for Indie Game,
which was quite contentious. That was interesting. Dave the Diver brought up
a big controversy which I won't get into because I don't actually think it's it's
that interesting. But the point is is how a Viewfinder was in Indie game
category and I have never played Viewfinder, and I was like, if it's
a nominee for Indie Game of the Year, I have to play it.
It was the only one on there that I hadn't played this year, so
I downloaded it and played it on Monday. I played like maybe four or
five hours of it. It's really interesting. It's a really great concept where
you at first it's very slow and it's essentially a perspective based game where you
see a gap and you obviously know you need a bridge, and you see
a post it that has a plank on it. If you put the plank
where the bridge needs to be, the bridge is there and then you can
cross so outside world. Yeah, correct, And it's so it's a perspective
based game, but it's done very well where you could play a lot with
it. And then eventually what it becomes is you get a polaroid and you
can take a photo of anything you want and then when you hold the photo
up, that thing will become a part of this world, and that is
quite interesting, and it allows you to solve these puzzles in very unique ways.
You will solve a puzzle very differently in the way I solve it,
because the way you choose to manipulate manipulate your polaroid and take a photo and
how you use it will probably be different the way I do it. So
it becomes a sandbox in the game where I'm at now, But there is
some very tutorial heavy beginner pieces where it's trying to explain the rules of the
world. It's great. It's a very interesting puzzle mechanic. I don't think
it is at the capacity of puzzler that Cocoon is. I just want to
say, like Cocoons puzzle building is bar non the best that I've seen all
year. If you want a puzzle game that explains the rules and then challenges
you, Cocoon is where it's at. This game is just it's an interesting
concept of a perspective based puzzling, and it is an interesting world. I
don't care for the vo or the story at all. I don't want to
hear anyone's sad sob story about why I'm in this garbage pale world. I
don't give a shit about you or your story. And just because you made
the character that I'm interacting with a cat doesn't mean I can't be annoyed with
them. And I like cats, and I still found them annoying. I
found every character in that whole fucking game annoying. I don't want to hear
a goddamn thing from anyone. There should have been no vo in that game.
I stand by that thought. But it's a neat puzzle game. The
gameplay gimmick work so well, and I feel like it they must have just
thought that, like, oh well, portally, you know, like the
puzzles were great, but also everyone loves Glad I have. She's earned well
if you find her. Does the stuff with that like second layer of the
story, with the futuristic dystopia stuff, did you get there yet? Uh?
Yes, I've started. That stuff felt so fucking unnecessary bad. The
game had me. When you're doing like photo tricks with batteries on the ground,
that's when I was like, oh, ship, Like they built this
exploit into the game in a really cool way. I was like, you
had you had this like Prey you had and you lost me. Yeah,
I don't know. I just feel like they put a hat on, an
ugly hat and a really good looking hat, and that was like, I
don't know why you're doing I don't know. Sometimes I wonder if like that
game was cooking for too long because it was a concept and if maybe it
had like two really insane o game devs were on it, it would have
been perfect. But then there was like a producer and like six other idea
guys in there that were like, what if you could break the world and
you're from the future and there's a cat and it's just like, shut up,
you don't need all that stuff. That game was really solid the way
it was, and I think all the bells and whistles that they had had
kind of annoyed me. But the puzzles are great, and I really do
think it'll give you some good think of moments. It's really fun when a
puzzle game makes you go, oh my god, I see and I had
one of those. I streamed this game, and it's really fun when it
finally clicks for me and I see my chat just go and everyone's just like
she did, She's she sees it like you, we all kind of click
at the same moment. When something like that happens, it feels great.
So I think it's a cool game. I really do recommend it. But
I had a couple a couple of Rockie pieces for me back and forth there.
Yeah, for sure, did you play? I think you played?
Chance of saying ah, right, yes, I told us about that.
Yeah, game, I think I like that play that I played it.
Have we not talked about it? I like that game a lot, but
a similar thing to Viewfinder. They also try to do a lot outside of
the actual logic and language puzzles that I'm like, like a lot of the
storytelling and the stealth stuff like what do you You're not a stealth I felt
like Uncharted for was the tipping point where like, you don't need stealth sequences
and every That's when I stopped Spider Man two. I was like, I'm
not doing another marriageane thing. I'm not like that ship. Yeah, and
I like Spider Man two, but God's things were I think doing this it's
a good disc It's a good comparison. I think sometimes you focus on what
you're good at, and yeah, it's interesting when a game might not recognize
when it's killing it. Yeah, maybe one as you do some busy work.
But we're at a point where like, I don't want busy work,
just let me. I don't stuff that I don't. I don't begrudge games
for trying stuff. I just want you to do it well. Like fucking
Dredge did not need to become this supernatural horror thing later on, it did
it well. In my opinion, I like how it did that. Like,
I'm fucking addicted to Dredge. One hundred percent of Dredge too. I
think I'm a free I got every fish. I was like, they didn't
need to do that, but I thought they did it well. And then
how many other games, Like again, you're not gonna be able to do
Portal Too better than VELL did. Like I agree. I say that all
the time. If you're trying to emulate a classic, a beloved classic,
if you ain't doing it better than that game, leave it alone, do
your own thing. You don't have dual protagonists that you can switch between whenever
you want, and one's in a nightmare world and one is in some weird
little twin Peaks town which came in different pages which Mary hold on, Let's
let's convene on the side I was talking to I was talking about about warrioror
moving. Yeah, we're talking about Sambadaire, talking about Sonic the Hedgehog was
murdered or whatever it's called. Yeah, I'm I'm the last game I'll talk
about tonight. That I also played just to catch up with more for Game
of the Year. I have several friends who swear to me that Remnant two
is good. I went back to give it more of a chance. I
did because I liked the first game, and I like what they're doing with
this second game, but it just frustrates me too often. I think there's
a lot of cool things going on. I like that. I like how
much they obfuscate in this game. They're not holding your hand through a lot
of it. I think it feels snappy from moment to moment. I think
that the world parts of the world are compelling. I like Low Song like
most people. I like the Bloodborne esque area. I like that you it's
randomized to the point where you might not even see the same a boss that
I saw in my play through, because you went through different parts of these
worlds that are randomly rolled. I like all that, and I like some
of the classes. I think the class design is really compelling. I really
dislike how often I am fighting bosses that are more frustrating than they are challenging.
The dodge is one of the least satisfying things, and I might just
be timing it terribly. But like the dodge in Allen Wake two is not
overpowered, but you need to like you can tie, you could start timing
that really well. In Rounded two, the dodge just feels so and I'm
not over encumbered. Like I told my friend, He's like, maybe you're
where you have too much armor. I was like, nope, I checked
that. I understand how these kind of games work. I looked into that.
I don't know. It's just frustrating me way too often to enjoy.
I wish I enjoyed it more, but I don't. But and then outside
of that, I know, I just said that was the last game I
talked about, But I played a fuck ton of Endless Dungeon over the last
like two weeks. Mary, I think you played Endless Dungeon. Uh,
yeah, I did play Endless Dungeon. I haven't played a lot of it.
I should preface I think I've only played a couple hours of it,
but it's a fun co op game Tower Defense, which is like such a
classic easy sell for me. If you want me to drink some beers and
play a co op tower defense, I'm in, uh, Power Defense,
Roguelike, twin stick Shooter mashup. Yeah, that's a good Yes, that's
correct. And it has a bar, yeah, like a put a bar
in there, and it's kind of what's the I mean every game now many
games have like a home base hub. Yeah, your hub is a bar.
The fucking dwarf miners and space game that I love, I put like
two Deep Deep Rock Deep. They have the bar too anyway, and you
you have to defend the crystal shock. And uh, what's interesting is like
every time you open a door, it gives you currency. So the idea
is like exploration rewards you with currency that you spend on turrets or maybe science
or maybe health health packs for you and your and your buddies. I Mike,
actually, maybe educate me because I don't think I figured out what causes
waves to Is it time based or I sometimes I felt like every time I
opened up like a door, I risked a wave like, yeah, no,
it's the way statistically, it ups the danger of you getting a wave
when the more doors you open, Okay, but then you also have to
then you also have to plan, Like if you open up every door willy
nilly, you're increasing the risk that enemies could come from another direction. So
like, the more you play, the more you're like, you're also creating
the path through which enemies are traveling. So that's when you're like, fuck,
do I want to open this door yet? Do you want to risk
going this other other side of the crystal bot before I move it? Yeah?
The more the more you play that game, the more you start to
internalize a lot of the rules and the meta of it, which is why
I really like it. I I I got like a very good twenty hours
out of it. I think it's a really well designed game. I got
a bit frustrated with it. I think some of the character design is is
pretty imaginative. I it's very satisfying to get these permanent upgrades and take a
new character down, and once you can get three people in your squad,
it's much more fun. But I do still wish there was more depth to
it. I felt like by my eighth ninth run, I had kind of
seen the entire loop, whereas something maybe not eighth or ninth, maybe like
twelve, but which is again like twelve runs a roguelike. I don't know,
but like twelve runs into Haites, I hadn't even unlocked all the weapons,
and I'm still seeing new wrinkles unfold. So I really like m Mus
Dungeon. Honestly, it might be in my top ten. I had a
lot of fun with it. I just I think I did. At a
certain point, those first few minutes of new runs started to feel more repetitive
than they would have been hades, where I'm like, oh, this is
all still really snappy and satisfying. I think I lost that a bit sooner,
and then LUs Dungeon than I would in a truly great roguelike. Yeah,
I think I. I also actually fell off and I didn't play it
for very long. I really enjoyed learning the mechanics, and then once I
learned them, I was like, okay, so it's just like electrical enemies,
you know, acid enemies, And once I kind of had solved what
it was teaching me, I felt like there was nothing else. I wish
it kind of a lot of games like that. They will dule them out
over time, so they'll be like, this entire area is just robots,
this next entire area is aliens. But it kind of did it all at
once, so there wasn't really anything to uncover. Yeah, they start complicating
that later on, but it does take a bit. But again, by
the time they start complicating in that way where you're like balancing the different enemy
types and elemental weaknesses, I felt like it had gotten easier, much easier
because I had upgraded two characters. I had a three person squad, so
it was like like getting that six person squad in x Com two is like
paramount, but it's still difficult once you do very different games. But I'm
just thinking like games where you increase the squads this one by the time you
got to three, and like it got to be a bit too easy,
right, But yeah, I think if you're into tower defense, all very
satisfying tower defense game, but you're also moving twin six shooter like hell Divers
kind of thing, it's I think it's got a lot of creativity. I
like a lot of the character design. I like there's some fun synergies between
different characters I think, for like, for a solid fifteen to twenty hours,
which these days is kind of honestly a little past the sweet spot.
I think that's that's really like a good time. Like I think fifteen hours
for me, regardless of the genre, is pretty good time to finish a
game. I think Ellen Wake two is the first game in a while that
I have finished and been like, oh wow, I I wish there was
more. I was shocked when you told me your hour account and I was
like, oh my god, Yeah, idea could be that long. I
mean one hundred percent keep that in mind. But still it's it's fairly lengthy.
I'd say it's similar to Resume of four length, if not more.
No, it's longer than Resume four. I think Resume four or now I
think remake you could probably get through fifteen hours. Maybe sounds about right.
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, outside of that might, I've got to
clean up some games for Game of the Year consideration. I've got a whole
list. I like Star Wars, Jedi Survivor I want to try more of.
So I've got some people I trust that tell me. They're like,
they asked me how far I got. I told them, like ninety minutes
in and they're like, Okay, play a little more. There's going to
be a part where the game really gets rolling. If you don't like it,
then put it down. I'm going to try to get there. They
told me. I'll know when I get there in terms of like what you
start doing as the overall explorative loop. But I forget. I have a
list somewhere of games I got to catch up on. It's definitely that time
of year though, where crunching out a bunch. Yeah, I would like
to with I just realistically, it's just the thing, I don't know if
I have time, you know, Oh yeah it sounds but you do have
the time. You're just choosing not to make the time. Like he ain't
that bad. I don't know. Look, I've been working on the only
game I've been playing for like a month has been Allen Wake two, and
I'll get maybe thirty minutes in, like in a week, I'll maybe get
hour and a half, you know, Like I just it's been it's been
a lot for a while now. So I guess I don't say that none
of us are not busy. We're definitely busy people, But I think busyness
is a really good excuse to be like I I'm just too busy to play
it. But what that really says to me is is like I'm not prioritizing
it because I don't want to. No, I'm literally saying, like I
wake up at like seven o'clock in the morning and go to bed closer to
midnight, and like every fucking second is filled with stuff, and like today
I would have loved to play a video game, but like, but if
you did have time, which deo game that you play? I need to
finish out in Wake like that I definitely need well seriously, like, like
that is is way high on my list right now, Like that is the
priority before these Games of the Year things. But like I have to finish
that. But that's the only game I'm working on right now. I just
need to beat it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I just texted
Jake because I texted the other day I don't think I'm gonna get either of
you to play Shadow Gambit, and I told Jake it's very much his ship.
So I'm like, did you play it yet? And he didn't answer
me, So I just texted him answer me in all caps. Two days
after he said no, not yet, Shadow Game at the Curse Crew,
the the O Yeah yeah, Squad Asymmetric Off yep. God, that's gonna
be annoying to argue for it because I don't think any of you guys are
gonna play it. It's gonna be one of those games I get up there
just by virtue of I don't know where I'll get it, but it's you
gotta you gotta pick where you're putting your points in your argument points. Yeah,
I gotta parse them out. M M. I've got a few games
in mind that I know I'm going to have to like really prop up.
I think there's one that I'm I don't think any of you like that I'm
gonna be. It's gonna I don't know, it'll be interesting. It'll,
like I said, it'll be a fucking shit show, bloodbath, I'm gonna
slit throats. Any other games where you guys want to do emails? Email
Email all right, as usual, you can write into fire Escape Past at
gmail dot com. Questions, comments, concerns, corrections. We actually have
a couple of responses today. They're not really corrections, but some fun responses
we got based on some past conversations that's fire Escape Past at gmail dot com.
Write in you want us to potentially read your question your email on next
episode or the one after that, Mary, do you want to do this?
First one from Adam? This is a response. I was it last
episode maybe two ago we talked about I think it was the email section less
episode. We talked about how I get these periods of like intense deja vu
over and over, and Dan was saying, you've never really experienced it.
Yeah, our listener wrote in a response to this, Okay, hey,
flaming escapers, it's a nice got a nice ring to it. It's your
old friend Adam, the neuro in interventional surgeon here again. Did I say
that right? Yes, we call ourselves brain doctors. But yeah, yeah,
noodle doc. Yeah. But hone in on your talk about deja vu,
because it's one of those things that can occasionally be the sign of a
neurological disorder or derangement. This isn't some warning to get your head scanned or
anything, just more to get you thinking good. Okay. Aside from disorders
and diseases, deja vu seems to appear in people who have sleep loss take
sleeping anxiety pills or consume a lot of alcohol that act on the same GABA
receptors. Two of those three explains deja vu. I was like, that's
not me. That's not me. Uh, and I alcohol is a bit
less lately, but like, I'm definitely more than average. I'd say I
would be very curious to know if you find that you get your runs of
deja vous are close to times when you have either had sleep loss or take
anxiety sleeping medication, or whether it occurs in the aftermath of alcohol intake stretches.
I haven't had this sensation myself since I wasn't residency, which is notoriously
grueling period of training. Cheers Adam. I think there's probably a time I'm
assuming he meant since I was in residency. Yeah he wasn't. No,
Yeah he wasn't. He said he hasn't experienced that day movie because he wasn't.
It's super sleep deprived. Yeah, yeah, it would not surprise me.
The sleep loss. My most of my life, insomnia has been a
There's been periods of my life where it's been actual, like you know in
Fight Club when he's describing insomnia. For as much as that movie is very
much like dude, bros. I don't really. I don't watch that movie
anymore. That part is true. It's like there's been twice in my life
where I've had such bad streaks of insomnia where life just stop feeling real.
It was all this is weird haze, So I could see that. And
I also just sometimes don't sleep well over the summer, especially I don't sleep
well, so I could see it being that. But yeah, it comes
in waves. It makes sense of what he's saying, because I was saying
it comes for me. It's like, oh, I had it like four
days in a row, but then I won't have it for like a year.
It's fun. I didn't know they might come along with periods where it's
like the holidays, or like I'm just seeing friends all the time and drinking
more than normal. Interesting. Let me throw a question back at the Adam
here. I'll email the emailer Gabba receptors and stuff like that. That's something
I've been reading about. But I've been reading dumbass layman google searches and stuff
like that because I've always been wondering, like why I have such issues with
it. If I get really drunk one night, the next day is this
panic attack city. It's just full on, just like just a steady hum
of anxiety the entire day. And I've heard like Gabba rebound and you're overloading
Gabba or starving your Gabba stuff like that. And then I started hearing a
lot of people talk about d HM d hydro my d hydro My right,
Tyson, it's a It's just like a supplement you're supposed to take after you
drink. And I got some because the rave reviews I saw everywhere, and
it does seem to be kind of working. And I don't know if it's
Placibo, it does seem better. Like I'll wake up the next day if
I've had like a you know, long Friday night, like me and Kayla
like stayed up til five am drinking the other night and I took one of
those and then woke up and I'm like waiting for the like wait, I
don't feel like I want to crawl out of my own brain, you know,
like this feels okay? So Adam, if you know anything about that,
I would love to hear you, even if it's not for reading on
the podcast. I would love to hear your thoughts on that. Yeah,
he's got an email. I don't know anything about Gabba. I haven't done
any research on Gabba. Who is she? I've read about it a bunch,
But I'm also a dumbass who doesn't know anything about science or brains or
anything medical from your medical perspective, Dan, And it's probably tied till I
got to open mean thing. And it seems like you can overload things and
then if the next day might be rough if you do too much with your
gabbas. I don't have many gabbas, and if you overdo your gabbas,
then you have a gabba recession, and then you crave gabba. I hate
talking about this stuff because it's like I love reading this stuff because I'm always
trying to diagnose myself, but also people googling and self diagnosing themselves online or
doing their own research on stuff when they're not a doctor leads to issues.
And it has led two issues on a wide scale. And it's like,
so I don't want to be the like I do some research to know I'm
an expert. I'm still very much a dumbass, but I am trying to,
like, you know, figure out what I can about these things.
But like I'll read things and then I will go to like my doctor and
be like, hey, is this bullshit? Like and so like that's why
I like asking actual experts like I heard this is this bullshit? You know?
Well, I mean, you took a pill and it's having an effect.
So it's what's interesting. Is is it lac ebo or yes, is
it actually having an impact? Which I'd be interested in hearing about. I
also get like anxiety after drinking a lot. I always thought it was associated
with the fact that drinking a lot, drinking excessively obviously makes you feel like
shit because you're poisoning yourself. Sure, and so I always felt like the
anxiety I felt the morning after was my body being like, why are you
poisoning yourself? You ding dong, Like, don't hurt yourself so that you
can have fun. Now you're sick and you don't feel good and you've ruined
your own your other day off because you're so stupid, and that makes me
feel guilty, and then I get anxiety. So I always concern I always
assumed it's because like I'm I'm doing something that's unnecessary to hurt myself. I
don't get into a nature versus nurture thing. But I think we all grew
up pretty similarly. Similarly. I think I know what lacrosse was until I
was like thirty, Okay, I mean, like the environments we were raised
in. I think, at least the suburban mindsets we were raised in.
We were all suburban, yes, like catholic Ish, right, like at
least like Christian. Was Christian childhood? Well not like, Well, I
went to Catholic school, but my parents never gave a ship. It was
just my Yeah, yeah, I digress. It wasn't a big part of
my childhood go on outside of school and going to Mass every week. But
yeah, yeah, I think we probably the guilt aspect I can relate to.
Not anymore nowadays, I'm like, I don't. I am. I
am able to push guilt away more easily, But guilt has been an overriding
emotion in my life, and I think it has a bit to do with
my upbringing. Not to blame my family. I love them, you've met
them all now. They're wonderful people. But uh yeah, I used to
when I was younger, and I would like be hung over occasionally. The
guilt would be the worst part, and that would definitely multiply. The anxiety
mine feels like it's something like in my brain is like like in the books
and stuff I read about it, I hear it's like a dope mean thing
where it's like, imagine like a seesaw or whatever, and you you overload
stuff or so much dope mean and the seesaw goes one way and then it's
like, Okay, your brain has kind of right itself and it kind of
overcracks for the day after and stuff like that. So yeah, the worst
for that for me. As fun as Molly is, I've had of the
Who's that chase? Chase that chase. She's a scats artist, she lives,
she lives under the playground of A handful of times have done Molly and
it's always fun and I like Molly particularly, have done it a while.
But because you're still very aware of your surroundings, it's not like you're not
tripping, it's very just enhancing certain things around you. The come down on
that can be brutal because it's just I cannot I can't do weed, you
know, I can't do weed. Yeah, I'm not. I don't want
to do the weed. I'm not. I can't do the weed, You're
not thing, but like the molly come down can be pretty rough because you're
literally just overloading like serotonin with molly and dopamine and everything, and it's like
the best. Everything is vivid. The next day was rough, Dan,
I had I had a bad one this weekend. I went and got edibles.
My sister was visiting and weed in her state isn't legal, so I
was able to take her to her first legal weed store, which is so
exciting, right because everybody, yeah, you can just buy it. Yeah.
Well, they're also super professional and they'll be like what, uh,
you know, what can how can I serve you? What's your preference?
Like what do you like? You know, what are you gonna do?
Are you gonna clean your house? Or do you want to have a little
happy nappy? And she was explaining it. So he's giving her all these
options and they're just so kind. It's so exciting. And while she was
having such a good time, I was like, well, I'm a seasoned
veteran, so I'm going to grab my usual and I grabbed an edible.
I always get the same ones. I have a system and I really like
dosing, Like what's cool about getting them from a store is they'll tell you
the dosage, and I know exactly what my dosage is, so I know
how much I should be taking. And I have a very low dosage.
I usually take like five milgram, which is like the lowest you can get.
Yeah, but you'll feel it. You'll feel five. Oh. I
like bite a piece off of five milligrams. Same, So like, I
keep it really low, all right. So I buy the one that I
think I usually buy it. I take it home and when my sister leaves,
I go get a coffee and I see them in my purse and I
kind of just pop one because I know I can have one gummy. I
know the dosage, and I have my coffee and I go home. And
as soon as I get home, I'm like, why am I so hi?
And I look at that little box and it's fifty Oh no. I
ten times dosed myself on Saturday. Yes, because I thought the five fifty
that is like crawling out of my sack skin. I know I would be
just standing on a roof firing a pistol in the air with searchlights on me.
I had a little bit of a panic, and I essentially I did
this thing where I was like, I understand that now I cannot leave my
house because I'll have a panic attack. And I sat and played pick Them.
Oh, that's the best thing you could have done there. Yeah,
And I got like really into pick Them. I do think it's actually why
I was able one hundred percent over games. I had a fifty mile so
that helped. It's true I did actually connect those dots because I was like,
I I fucked over my brain and I realized to me, everybody's different.
I'm not a doctor, e there, I'm a ding dong as well.
But the thing that was able to cure my extreme anxiety and possibly the
ability of me to spiral that day and freak out was to focus on a
game that required my concentration and it it really does. It really does,
like you like we talked about earlier, like that seems like the perfect game
to do that with. Yes. When I finally stopped being high, I
recognized that my throat was really dry, and I thought, this is probably
a result of my edible And it turns out I was fucking sick. And
that's what happened. Like my body came down and I became ill. The
next day, but I survived that edible experience through pickment. Hell yeah,
anyway, maybe if you're feeling anxiety, play it. Even though I've already
one hundred percent of it. I could totally see that being like I'm just
starting. You know, one and two were on switch Now fuck that.
Maybe I'll get those downloaded and have them at the ready, like in case
of panic while high break least just in case. It was also a two
to one edible, so it was fifty milligrams of THHC and it had CBD
as well, which had like a really I had a nice body high,
which I think, Okay, that does help. Yeah, what is Simo
doing? He's just staring into the darkness behind me. A weird ass.
Dog's actually really creepy. Yeah, doctor weird doing just waiting for you to
call him. Oh hi, I didn't see you. I went into the
bed or bedroom a couple of days ago. Bank was asleep. The dogs
ran there. They're usually in the bed with her. I walk in,
I'm taking out of my watch, I'm taking putting my phone on the thing.
All of a sudden, I heard the closet door open, and I'm
like, what the fuck is going on here. It's like right next to
me. He's like, who is coming out of the closet. Razor had
apparently gone into the closet in the middle of the night and must have like
shut the door behind I came in there and what's up? And came out
of the closet. Damn. Dogs are great. Yeah, what is she?
She's grabbing him. It's uh, he's wander up there. It looks
like he might have been getting prepped for a walk. He's wearing his reflective
coat. I love it. Dogs wearing clothes is very funny. Loaf,
look at that loaf. It's up God. Patreon video watchers see a dog.
I think he's just, you know, dog depressed. No, was
he getting ready for a walk? It looks like just come back from one.
Okay that this is from noon and I I didn't take it off.
Okay, look at hey man, Hey she mom? Buddy, Hey buddy,
hey, you can't hear you put headphones on that dog? Okay,
hey, hey, won't you? Yeah buddy, buddy, Oh yeah,
buddy, you know what you want? A ready way buddy? Oh oh
yeah, yeah, buddy, Yeah buddy, buddy, hight buddy, buddy,
boo, you wish I was a dog. It seems like a good
leg uncomfortable. Don't worry about weed and anxiety. They're so fucking stupid And
like, man, Gizmo just just given ice cube. He's the happiest he'll
be in his entire life. My dog gets weird. My God gets mad
depressed sometimes if I if I'm too busy. Simung goes on a w every
day, usually around noon, and if I'm too busy and my meetings go
along, he will go into the basement and stare at a wall in the
dark. That's awesome from the end of the Blair Witch Project in the corner,
the guy just shaking the corner. Gizmo saws take a toy out of
a cabinet in the laundry room once and if we can't find Gizmo, we're
like looking all over the house for him. It's like, oh fuck,
is he in the linder of room? And he'll be sitting in the londery
room just staring at a cabinet. He's not a toy in once It's like,
okay, of course, yeah, Scarlett saw like a mark on this
big armor mirror we have in the bedroom, like two days ago, and
she's been like sitting loafing on the floor staring up at it ever since.
I wish I had that focus and concentration. They're better than us. Yep,
we don't deserve them. All right, Well, thanks again, Adam.
You've got our email to respond in. All right, I got a
game question here, Dan. I'll read this one so you can do this
last one, which is specifically addressed to you. All right, Hey,
fire Escapers, what's one game you will never uninstall from your PC or console?
For me, it's Halo Master Chief Collection. So much content and installagi
and fun. I go back to it every few months. Thanks Jesse from
Saint Louis. It's a great choice, my Chief Collection. Yeah, I
have PT. I can't uninstall it or I'll lose it. Is one that
I will keep forever. I usually keep Rocket League installed because I genuinely will
play it every Well, I haven't played it in a couple months, but
I usually play it at least a couple times a year with my friends,
which is just just a lovely, memorable game that I can pick up at
any time. We've talked about this many times for a long time. Mine
was Warframe I finally just got rid of it because I was playing it a
lot PC though I cannot foresee ever for the first see of a future on
installing Warhammer three with how much game there is there and how often I go
back to it, and they are billions. They are billions. Is like
my anxious I need to play our real time strategy game about turtling and have
control over something that is my Like things are overwhelming, I'm going to go
play this game. I'd say like Xbox uh, probably the first Soul Caliber
I bet HG or the XBLA Soul Calber, Like that's just like my favorite
fighting game ever. And I'm not even a big fighting game guy. It's
just anytime I'm playing Soul Caliber, I love it. On Switch, I
would say Mario Kart eight Deluxe, because that is just such a like if
you just seen a mindless thing to play, it's always gonna be fun.
If you've got friends over, everyone fucking loves Mario Kart. There they still
put out new DLC stuff like in the last week. It just seems like
a no brain You're like, I be able to have a one game on
your switch, it would probably be that. So my switch is Smash Bros.
Ultimate. I haven't done solid since I got it. I don't think
mine's hollow night. Yeah, shut the fuck up, stupid face. I
nodded. I was like, oh cool, I'm glad you like that.
It's going to happen one day. They're going to just randomly announce Silk Song
and a release date while we're recording. And you're not going to believe me
when I'm like mary go on Twitter they announced, I'll explode every time.
It's really funny because every time Nintendo has any kind of like update, which
they did this week, anytime they have like a we're gonna do a little
couple announcements, world, Twitter will explode with just little Silk Song clowns because
everybody is like, they're not gonna fucking we're all we all want it and
they won't announce it and they just make us look like total dorks. Yeah
you are, I know. Yeah, It's like I'm trying to think there's
probably one I'm missing, like on Xbox. Yeah, for a while,
it is war Frame. Most mind that I will never uninstall our PC just
because like their strategy games like Command and Conquer or something. Yeah, but
like PlayStation five. You know what PlayStation five. I since I got my
PS five, I had not uninstalled Red Dead Redemption two. Every once in
a while I still go back into it and just kind of get my multiplayer
character. Also, it's just a big game to download, so I think
that probably plays a part. I don't want to wait for it to redownload,
but I'll just like, you know, get my character wander around.
That's just a very calming wilderness to go explore. It's up there. But
thank you, Jesse Damn. This last one is specifically for you. It's
also kind of Giant Bomb related, and also for people who don't know what
they're referencing, please explain, because what a weird fever dream of a show
that was? Okay, I was watching best of Giant Bomb on Shuffle?
Was Dan actually mad? Parentheses? Sad? At the end of burgle My
Bananas. That's a Joe from Finland. Okay, so burgle My Bananas.
I remember when you announced that show. I'm very proud of that show.
First of all, great title for a show. It's great follow up to
Steal My Sunshine, which is Marius Sunshine one. The concept of what the
fuck was it? Was the four of us playing, and we traded off,
and we had the most convoluted way of earning banana tokens or something that
we could buy stuff from the Funky I love how you're asking me you designed
it all. Yeah, I know, but I also have no memory.
I just remember being very funny to me. Here's what I remember. I
remember announcing it in a glittery jacket every time, and then let's go to
the Funky Shop and then taking two minutes to try to get my chair out
of the way in that tiny fucking room to get the punky shop and frame.
I don't remember how any of the currency worked. I don't remember.
The Wednesday was we actually he shipped the sixty four to Antarctica, which is
very com funny to me. Yeah, yeah it was. It was Vinnie,
you, Me, and Abby. And the idea was that because Navara
wanted no part of it, yeah, he had the foresight to opt out,
and the idea was, yeah, that we would just we had these
random every time we got a banana in the game, which is if you've
not played Donkey Kong sixty four, that's the equivalent of like the Star from
n sixty four or the wonderful, the shine and Shine. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Anytime we got one of those, there were several criteria for
any time we reached them, we would go spin the wheel, which then
like gave us a new prop to wear, wheel to eat or did we
just play? Wasn't a virtual wheel? It was a real wheel behind you.
You made the wheel, didn't you. I thought we did a virtual
thing. No, I'm pretty sure it was a real thing you made and
brought in, because yes, you had the You said, let's go to
the funky shop. You set up like a tiki bar behind you. No,
I set up the funky shop. I think I was virtual. I
think i'sing a lot of this too. Then I what a weird period of
my life. I don't know anymore. The Funky Shop is definitely real.
Well, so yo, yeah, yeah I made that. Yeah I wish
I wish I still had that. Uh so, wait, Mike, maybe
you remember like asking if I was mad or sad at the end? What
happened at the other All I remember is sending a Nintendo sixty four day Antarctica,
which I was thrilled about. Like I remember taking that to the FedEx
store in Midtown and being like, can you send this jungle green sixty four
day Antarctica? I remember being like I had a lot of fun with this.
This was this was like one of the weirder things we've done. I'm
gonna miss this. You did. You did like a farewell speech for sure.
What happened that would make me mad or sad? I don't think you
being mad. I remember you maybe because we kind of ended it. The
intent was to keep going, I think, and then the intent I think
was to get the point was the game sucked and we were trying to like
earn enough points to send it to Antarctica so we never had to think about
it again. Like that was the whole point, right, yeah. Yeah,
So like that thing, and you can be honest with me here,
is this a me thing? Is this a problem? Because like I've seen
this pop up plenty of times where it's like I feel like maybe I'm just
wrestle brained too much, or it's like I'm constantly like, oh, you
got you gotta play things up and you got to like, oh, heal
it up, and then you gotta sell it when you lose and stuff.
So like I've seen people like at the end of a live Mario party we
did. Drew Scanalon beat me and I did a thing where I took my
earpiece out and I've got off stage, and you know, I'm like,
after being like the biggest shit he'll ever for like four hours and then the
uld baby face Drew Scalon wins and I'm selling like, ah, I'm throwing
a tantrum. And I've seen people be like, oh, it's hard for
me to watch Mario Party five because you know, like I could tell Dan
was really struggling at the end, and I'm thinking, like, do people
just do I Am I just assuming people are getting like wrestling things or is
it like somebody just not reading that. I'm obviously like putting on like I'm
playing the bad guy and then selling the You're a good seller. I think
you really do sell people on your anger or your sadness or you're being a
dickhead. I've bought it before. I don't know if I've ever been actually
angry well on a podcast or a stream. There might be I think part
of that might be a misunderstanding of on the viewer's part of like not understanding
your job or what's really going on. Like I think it might be a
parasocial thing. They think that everything they're seeing is authentic. You sure,
So maybe that's it because I've definitely done things on like GameSpot or fire Escape
and then I see people reacting to something I said or how I was talking
about it, and they're like completely went over their head that I was,
you know, playing it up, and they just can't like read that like
I think, like so often, especially on fire Escape. That's where I'm
We've talked about this before. I'm pretty authentic on Fireescape. I'm not.
I'm never straight up like lying about shit, but there are certain times.
There are definitely times, certainly where I'm amping up the mic so to speak,
for a bit exactly. Yeah, we're all being authentic, but I
think sometimes I will ramp stuff up and then people will be like, oh,
like, I guess Mike is actually like I didn't realize this was a
side of him. I'm like, well, it's not. But I'm doing
it at the microphones and cameras in front of our faces. We're doing a
show. But yeah, Dan, you said that you've never actually been mad
in a podcast ever, and then you said, well, yeah, then
I thought even recently, yes, there is one context in which I definitely
am mad, and it's happened several times on stream in the last few weeks,
and that is if I am dealing with production issues now that I am,
you know, as I'm trying. That's the thing, Like I'm still
fairly new to this. I kind of started doing this in the pandemic.
And there's shit where it's like if you saw men streaming with KLA last weekend,
and it's like, why the fuck doesn't the volume on my TV work
anymore? Or why isn't this game capture card showing up as a source in
OBS anymore? Like, and I've got a fucking extra life stream that I
am have to host and play and literally host people in my house and stream
this out and raise it like there's a lot on my shoulders. And when
like something is happening where it's like why the fuck isn't this capture card showing
up or whatever? Like that is legitimate, Like that's not an entertainment thing.
If it was, that'd be shitty entertainment because like me just getting frustrated
at tech is not like a funny bit or anything like that. So like
that that is earnest me being upset, me being pissed off, being disappointed
because it's like, goddamn it, this should be working, and I don't
understand why that's you verse tech, that's not interpersonal stuff, which I think
people don't know how to read sometimes. Well, yeah, there was a
moment at Giant Bone with Vinnie, and like me and Vinnie always got along
great, and we still do. You know, there's never any problems there.
And we were playing Fusion Frenzy once and like whenever I've said this before
and how I don't know, I'm not actually competitive, but I don't actually
get mad or anything like that. Well, there's the time you threw a
pennant Benny. You got madiffusion printing through a penn at Benny. It's like,
again, yes, we're playing a dumb ass party game and some bullshit
happened, like oh you better me and I threw a pen against the wall
behind his head and be like no, no, you must have forgotten about
that time you were furious and threw a pin at his face. What are
you talking about? Like, I just it's it's crazy to me when people
can't tell that. It's just like, this is we're doing a show,
I think people get get so it's it's one of those things. It's like
a double sided coin because on the one hand, it's flattering that people decide
to spend this much time watching something or listening to something. On the other
hand, I think it can be difficult for people not to get pilled into
thinking that everything they're seeing is authentic you, and they think that is you,
and if they were to hang out with you at a bar, that's
exactly how you would be. Yeah, and again, we're all authentic here,
but we definitely amp up certain aspects of our personality for energyment or just
honestly, for me, it's to make YouTube laugh. Anyone on a show
where even like not even like a podcasting thing, in a social situation with
your friends, he plays stuff up you Like if I was playing Mario Party
with my sisters with no cameras on Growing Up, You're gonna act mad when
someone steals your star. You're gonna like, you know, that's you're just
getting into it, you know, Like I just that's it's so foreign to
me, and I just wonder if it's like I'm just so fucking yeah wrestling
brain, you know, like I'm fucked up to a point where it's goes
but such a good actor, that is not the case. I think my
my sense of humor, and then my friends, many of whom you've met
recently, half of our sense of humor was very much based on like putting
on an act to fuck with other people. Yeah, but they gotten so
used to it that they know that most of anytime I'm showing any intense emotion,
odds are, it's a bit yeah. Yeah, people who know me
know when I'm truly mad. You two can tell when I'm truly mad.
I don't think it's happened, but there were definitely times when I've been like
pissed at a specific person when you guys could tell it's mad. But like,
it's almost never on air. Odds are on air, I'm just playing
something up. Well. That's the thing too that I think people don't get
is like if we actually did get mad during a podcast recording or during a
stream, it wouldn't play out in a way where you would hear it.
It would be a thing where you'd kind of bite your lip and be like,
all right, we got to talk about this afterwards or something. But
even that's rare. But it wouldn't be a thing where a podcast like that's
not fucking you would do that. Yeah, there's producers who would cut the
feed at some point if something bad enough. Yeah yeah, yeah, but
it was an actual problem you're talking for the show or something like that,
but like that doesn't really happen, So yeah, I yeah, maybe I
I worry that I make too many assumptions about like, oh, well,
this is obvious when maybe it's not obvious to people. You know. I
think as long as you are feeling good about the relationships that you have,
that's like ultimately the most important thing. And I've never genuinely been furious with
you. I've frustrated, but I don't think I've ever been mad once in
the last couple of years where Dan has sincerely pissed me off. Oh this
is fun. No, it's pretty simple and it happened quickly. It was
no no, no, no, no uh one of the I think honestly
it was the meetup last no, not the it was game of the year.
Yeah, last year. We were here in New York before we went
up to Connecticut. When you ate the cat nep no, no, no,
no. That was funny because it's at your apartment. Yes, I
live on a fourth floor walk up. By this, I'm in the clear
here. This is great for a fourth floor walk up. Video of them
going up four flights and we're climbing up the stairs to get to my apartment
and I'm in front and Dan's behind me. And what were you doing?
Were you grabbing? It was every time you stepped, I was grabbing your
ankle. That was about to step three time. Impossible for you to walk
up. I think there, let's say there's sixteen stairs per flight, let's
step for there are sixty four steps. I got pissed by the end of
floor too. I was like Dan, that's actually annoying me. And then
you kept doing it for the next two flights, and I'm like Dan,
I can't explain. I cannot overstate how pissed I am right now and how
much is annoying you or me. That's the only time I can recall where
I was like Dan. Like later that night, I was like Dan,
that actually like it was. I was heated and you I would do it
again. I would do it again million years, get like physical again.
But I truly cannot imagine this situation where I would actually like, haul off
and punch you in the face. Oh, but that was the closest you've
got, Even though the gulf between that and me actually punching you was still
very wide. You got close. I do that to Kayla. I do
that to Kayla. I only do it with the people I'm closest with.
And I do it to Kayla and she this fucking donkey kicked me in the
chest on a staircase. So I don't want to do that though, because
these are steep, like the curve. I was like, you would get
hurt. I think you know that I'm never going to do that on those
stairs, So you keep doing it or you've done it that once. I
was like, I got upstairs and like Amanda was like, you're actually mad
at you. I was like, yes, but you weren't mad when he
drug you by your feet and then turns on the ice dispenser of the fridge
with your feet. Wait when what? Yeah, I took I took you.
We were all very drunk. I took your foot. You were laying
on the ground or something, and I grabbed your foot and I shoved it
into the ice thing. That's funny. That's really funny, Mary, didn't
you get the video of that? I have video of everything. Where can
you send me that video? That was funny because that was the night Dan
was eating the skittles off the counter with his mouth that too, and Bunk
is in the background talking about why it's weird to wipe a certain way the
fall hike. Yeah, and no, most Dan does like the worst stuff
in the videos. We're going, what are you talking about? You're doing
it wrong? Yeah, No, most of the stuff you've done to me,
Dan, I've like, see I when I'm the like butt of the
joke, I will be laughing harder than anybody. You handle it well.
I think I'm very good now at identifying who would be funny and fun to
fuck with like to an insane degree, and who would be friends with you
if you can't be fucked with a little bit. The flatiring thing, it
wasn't flat tired, but that was like something I don't know what, maybe
like anything involving my it's not my ankles, though. You dragged me by
my ankles to the ice dispenser, and that was funny. It must have
been just like the thought that you were about to trip me, like sixty
four times going upstairs. It seems like an annoying way to walk upstairs.
But like and then that like my, my, my communication like hiccups get
come into play. Because I remember stopping on like the third floor and turning
to you. I was like, Dan, I know we fuck with each
other. We have one more flight to go to my apartment. Please,
this is pissing me off. And then lo and behold you start doing it
again, and I had to, like, I forget. I definitely wasn't
like clan clandestine, like telling Amanda I'm really kissed. It was more like
she's like, you're actually mad. Art was like yes, And I think
I had to go back and like pet one of my cats for like five
minutes to calm down. I gotta go pet my cat. Oh, I'll
stand by that one. That's do it again, Like you've shoved the cat
treats in my mouth. That was funny. I wasn't expecting that. Yeah,
you've done a lot. But uh but yeah, Mary, if you
have that ice suspenser thing, send it to me because that I have it,
I have it somewhere. I'll find it. I also Instagram, but
like it's literally an Instagram story. Oh, yeah. Uh put that back
on the firescape Instagram. Okay, oh well, thank you Joam, Yeah,
thank you. Land of Alan Wake. Oh is that what he was
saying Finland? Oh it said it said something else here? Oh oh that
Landed thing. Oh I don't know. Just Alan has been there. Yeap
Remedy's there, which is funny because Poets of the Fall are Finish the band
in the games Old Gods of Asgar are technically Swedish, but they're played by
a Finnish band. But there's also the young version and the old versions.
Yeah, yep, good music. Watch watch those music videos. Watch that
clip that Sam Lake posted today, and pay attention to Warrendor's face. While
like Sam and the guy playing Allen are like being a bit more serious and
like deadpan, He's just like, uh, I try to pull this up?
What is like his He's retweeting a lot of Alan Wake love right now.
I posted slack for probably let me find it. I'll put in our
discord. Yeah. Yeah. In the meantime, everybody, thank you so
much for joining again. Before we sign off, got a few fun things
coming up December sixteenth. If you're not already subscribed to Dan's Twitch channel,
Twitch, dot tv slash Dan Riikert, that's where we will be doing it
live. We will get back to you with specific times. We'll put that
on our social channels and or Dan, do you do we you have a
the evening. We haven't talked about it like I would say central time,
you know, seven eight around that general time frame. We'll get some dinner
or something and then we'll go live, so roughly around seven or eight on
that Saturday, the eighteenth, and that will be live on Dan's Twitch channel,
and then we will put the VOD on the fire Escape Past YouTube channel.
If you're not already subscribed there, go do that. That's also where
Mary and I put up Resident Evil we Fingers. We'll have a new episode
very soon, or rather we will have one up, a new one up
by the time this episode is up on our channels, but go there so
if you can't make the live show or you can only see bits and pieces
of it, that'll be up on our YouTube channel, and then we'll also
have the audio up on the following Monday, the eighteenth. Monday the eighteenth
will be episode seventy. That'll be our Game of the Year twenty twenty three
extravaganza, Mary Jake and I will be descending on Dan's house in Minneapolis to
hang out in his bar and argue for what I'm sure will be a very
cordial and civil chat about the best game of twenty twenty three look to it.
Yeah, and then Fireskate merch dot com. You can go and get
your dorky Christmas sweatshirts your crew next if you didn't get one last year,
they are available. Do you want to catch up on our festive ugly dorky
Christmas sweaters? Very wholesome, You don't need to tell everybody what it really
means. And then we also just have merch for still one's business that it
means hand job. No, no, it's a hand job. Sure.
There's also just some nice like winter garb on fire Escape merch dot Com going
into the winter. And then outside of that, we will be back in
a couple of weeks. Before that, we have one more episode before our
Game of the Year, while we're planning for that. We will be back
on December fourth, Dan, what do you have going on in the meantime?
You got a lot going on? Yes, I do. I don't
know if I'll be streaming much to my personal channel in the next few weeks,
but Giant Bomb definitely check out our Game of the Year stuff going on
there from Los Angeles. We will be on the ground for the Game Awards,
but more importantly, the real Game of the Year Awards will be happening
on December ninth, live in Los Angeles. Tickets sold out very quickly.
We have a live venue, we've got guests, we've got friends sold out,
but we will be streaming out live on at twitch dot tv slash Giant
Bomb, and it's gonna be fun. We also we are doing like a
normal like week leading up to Game of the Year. We're gonna do categories,
We're gonna do the usual stuff like that. Is gonna be the finale
of Game of the Year. Is gonna be live on stage. We will
be doing the silly categories and stuff like that on that previous upf day,
on the BombCast day, things like that. So just stay tuned to Giant
Bomb. A lot of plans going on there for Game of the Year and
then week after that fire Escape Game of the Year, So a whole lot
going on. Judge Jake is going to make his return, and apparently several
famous guests are famous, a very famous ghost, a very famous gizmo.
If you're talking about gizmo, we can deliver on gizmo. We can promise,
and we will deliver on the ghost of a very famous celebrity will be
there in spirit. I don't make promises. I can't heap, don't I
don't write checks. My butt can't cash. I don't know this is appealing
to you too, But you know, the Twin Cities are a test market
for Taco Bell and we have had the Taco Bell chicken nuggets for the last
month and I've had them three times and they are fucking amazing, really tallapenia
breaded chicken nuggets. I'm not kidding at all. Are they in a taco
No, They're just they're nuggets. And I look as much as we can
get a taco and you can put them in there. Yeah, yeah,
Like I am a Taco Bell mark. But when they put out a new
thing that isn't great, I'll say it. The chicken rollers that came out
with recently were not great. I ordered them once, won't order them again.
These nuggets, real deal, they are like this. Somehow Taco Bell
has become my favorite nugget in fry place and we can get those the nacho
fries. The nacho fries are fantastic. Taco Bell is doing great work lately,
and these nuggets need to come out. Taco Sciences come a long way.
They got a new belt sauce. They got a Jalibenio honey mustard.
I don't even like mustard, and I order the Halibenio honey mustard. It's
fucking amazing with the nuggets. I'm telling you, it's fucking good. They
perfected Taco Bell with the crunch wrap. I don't know that I want to
go past that. All right, we don't. We don't have to get
it. We don't have to get them. I'm not I'm not kidding it.
It's fucking great. If you get Taco Bell, I'll just get a
crunch wrap. Did they still have the crunch wrap? They do like breakfast
ones, and I have disappointing to you that I want to get a crunch
wraps at this point. Will be adventurous, you know, adventures by eating
Taco Bell. I come on now, Dan, I eat many many fancy
foods. I just drank a coat Darne. Throughout this episode, christ On
that note, Mary, what do you have going on? I'm going to
the Game Awards. Uh, that's probably the next big thing. So I'll
be at the Game Awards with Dan. Mike's coming to. Will definitely take
a photo of the three of us. All of us will be there,
really looking forward to in person photo. Yeah, Mary, we should u
specifically, I did not bring up that Wednesday, which would be Wednesday the
sixth, we will be doing the Giant Bomb at night couch show. We
won't. Yeah, and I'll be there. Yes, you will be there.
It's not gonna be a whole thing like a summer games spot where it's
like several different nights and Mike will be there and we're going to do a
nice in person count. Don't look at the photo for too long. No,
just a Brett glimpse. Yeah, yeah, just just real quick.
But yeah, Mary, you'll be on the couch. We'll have you a
Wednesday night, the night before the Game Awards. I will see you there.
I'll be there, Yeah, and we'll take a picture. I like
Mike's on the show and he goes, I like, wan, that was
funny. I remember that now? Well cool? That was episode sixty eight.
Getting closer to sixty woo. And then we then we pe numerous celebrity
guests planned for sixty nine. Yep, I haven't figured out who yet,
but there will be celebrity guests. All the stars will be there. The
stars will all be there. It'll just be like one really bad JFK fresh,
my fellow Americans, the next step in entertainment, the all in one
entertainment console, the Xbox One. JFK is done. Matter is a weird
bit JFK figuring out the console that goes best off his butt what I want
to see? He's a Wemo guy. Yeah, the Series X is two
rectangular. I'm here to tell you the Series X can fit better. It's
still a square pag in a round hole, but it will do the job.
And what you must ask is not what your console can do for you,
but what you can do for your console. Imagine what is Phil Spencer
mixed with JFK sound like? Let's hear it. I'm so excited to bring
you the next evolution of entertainment consoles. It's going to be such an exciting
year for Xbox. We have such exciting indie studios and newly acquiet Studios here
to bring you the best games on any platform. This is a weird bit.
I don't you asked? Did you ask for it? He did ask
for it, but then you didn't put in like how those fit into your
butt? Yeah, back to the left. I believe it's all connected.
Well, I'm not going to smirch the good name of Phil Spencer and Abraham
Lincoln or JF. It's one thirty here, I'm tired. Seven years ago,
here's Phil doing a four score. And seven years ago we set out
what are you doing with your hands? At that point? They're my pants?
Right now you're wet toad shirt? We score? And seven years ago
we set out, thanks for a good episode, to remake Battle Toads.
And I'm so excited because today we're here for two hours. This is my
most anticipated game. It's called Redfall. We bought. That's a game I
gotta go check check out before h Yeah, it's gonna come up a lot
of them here. There's gotta be a category to fit that in. All
right, thank you for joining. A lot going on the next few months.
I cannot fucking wait till we have one more episode before Game of the
Year. But I can't wait. Uh in exactly a month from a couple
hours ago when it was still November sixteenth. I'll be out in Minneapolis to
record. That'll be fun. Looking forward to seeing cool Judge Jake. We'll
be back to Razor Gizmo, see your new digs. Can't wait, good
time. Well, thanks everybody for joining. We'll see you on episode sixty
nine. Do you on episode sixty nine? No, come on now,
it's your joke. It's your joke. Dan was the originator nine recording