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Welcome back, everyone to a new
episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and

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David Harsani. Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show,

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please do so at radio at the
Federalist dot com. We'd love to

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hear from you now, Molly.
Every episode of Your Wrong is special,

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but this one is a very special
episode where we answer reader questions. How

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do you feel about these episodes?
By the way, nervous? I get

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nervous that you're can to ask me
questions and I haven't thought about what to

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say, but excited also excited to
hear how you answer these questions from readers.

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I will start with a personal one
from Joy, and a number of

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people have asked this in different ways, but they wonder, as someone who

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lives in the DC area, in
the swamp itself, is it difficult for

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you not to go native? I
guess is the question like, what do

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you do not to be pulled into
the same kind of you know, lockstep

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thinking and lifestyle that a lot of
people in DC live. That's a really

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interesting question I usually and I have
been asked actually by other people, like

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when I'm out speaking on the road, why I haven't gone native like everyone

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else, so many other people have
in DC. And what I usually say

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is that it's my church because my
husband and I and our kids are very

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involved in our church, and that's
kind of our social community, that's our

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friend set, that's who ay.
They're not very political like at all,

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so that's not what we talk about. And then all so you just have

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a different central force in your life. And I don't even mean by that

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God, although I do. I
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built around a totally different a political
schedule, like when is church, when

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is midweek service? What are we
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the person who's in the hospital,
or who's throwing the shower for the

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lady that's having the baby. You
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so there's that. But then I
also think I have something that you have,

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which is a contrarian nature, like
a comfortability not being where everybody else

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is. And I think having been
a libertarian for a long time helped me

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with that. Like being libertarian,
nobody ever agrees with you, and you

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just get used to people not agreeing
with you, and you don't take it

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personally and you don't get super upset
and you kind of look for where you

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can work with other people. And
so that was good grounding for the current

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time. Oh, in these we're
always disappointed in everyone. We're always disappointed

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in everyone. That's the case,
except not you know, like you're you're

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so you're such an outlier that it's
kind of silly to be disappointed and everyone

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you know, you're the one who's
different. And then I was just going

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to say that I think the number
one thing is that I don't actually respect

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the DC Beltway group thinkers. I
think they're not very smart. I think

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objectively speaking, they've done a very
bad job with running the country, and

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so I don't seek their praise because
in fact, I almost feel like if

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they do praise me, I have
done something horribly wrong. So I think

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all of those things help. What
about you even though you don't live here?

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Yeah, I moved away, No, I think because you know,

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a lot of people I knew in
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C with jobs in d C.
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I mean, Like they've become part
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you know, I started my career
elsewhere and I lived in Denver for a

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long time, and I just never
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I will say this, I think
DC is kind of an underrated city as

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a city. There's a lot to
do there. It's not a terrible place

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to raise your kids, you know. You know, I was born in

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New York. It's not overwhelming in
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an interesting city, I think.
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it started to get to me.
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It's just a very expensive place to
live and it is very politics focused for

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a lot of people. Everyone's like
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everyone's working for the government in some
capacity, or you know, rely on

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the government, and as a person
who basically hates the government, it was

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uncomfortable. So I was happy to
move away. Though you know, I'm

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farther away from some of my friends
and that's not great. But I've always

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moved. I moved around a lot
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like experiencing different places. So,
like your answer, it's very interesting.

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Someone wanted to or in who we
know, I would like to hear both

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of our best pieces of parenting advice. Yes, yes, I will I

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will now don't preface this by saying
I am not you know. I don't

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give out parenting advice because I don't
feel like, you know. All kids

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are different and all that you know, and all parents are different, all

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situations are different. But I would
say the one thing that I regret the

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most is giving my kids too much
access to the internet and phones too early.

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I think that as if you can
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out from them having sort of unfettered
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the internet, the better. I
think kids who pick up book, you

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know, they'll stop picking up books
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of being engaged in the real world
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their stare at their phones. And
I really regret not that we did it

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very very early, but I regret
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I feel like we could do a
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because I'm not sure if I have
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love having children. I think my
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become a parent if you're able and
you be a willing partner. It is

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as many kids as you can have. Yes, it's a it's just like

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the most fun and it's been fun. And I now have you know the

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older side of teenagers. It's been
fun the whole time. I'm not saying

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every day is without you know,
a problem or something someone breaks their arm

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or someone's sasses, you know.
But I really enjoy my children and I

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have enjoyed them every single pace.
So if you're able to have children,

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you should don't wait. And Mark
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within a year, so we we
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pregnant hardly, and I'm so glad
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would we just were open to whatever
happened. But I'm really glad God gave

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us a child right away. It's
like you create these help create these people,

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and then you get to hang out
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get older. My kids are a
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I just love spending time with them. Obviously they're going out into the world,

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but I think they're maybe because because
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they have wonderful senses of humor,
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So it's just this this society you
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group and that it's loyal to each
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it is the greatest thing that's happened
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it. Okay, I want to
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said about technology. And we kind
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not by accident, but the kids
when they were very young. I punish

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them by not letting them watch their
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to watch whatever, you know,
the Backyardigans or something like that, and

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they were so well behaved that day
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the TV show was the problem,
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as an option, they just became
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better. And then we learned just
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and so Mark in particular was really
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that, and they haven't. I
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does have a phone, but it's
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great. And I do think part
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delightful is because they know how to
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But then the other thing I just
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good as a parent. My mom
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just discipline is mostly just having a
routine and sticking to it. And I

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don't mean by that that you have
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It could literally be something like we
eat meals each day or something, you

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know, but just kind of being
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some structure and then lessening that structure
as the kids show that they're able to

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handle that. And I should say
in this is partially because I got to

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work at the Federalist, you know, I got to be at home.

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I got to have dinner with my
kids every night and like create a schedule

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where we spend time together all the
time. And that's vitally important as well.

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So let's go on, who is
David's favorite coworker and why is it

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Sean Fleetwood? Oh, I think
Sean Flee would sent this email. It's

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not Sean Fleood's. Okay, how
did you two meet and what were your

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first impressions of the other. I
do remember when I first met you in

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real life. We had spoken I
believe through Twitter had I was a fan

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of yours when you were at I'm
sorry, I forget the name of the

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site. Was it Get Religion,
Get Religion? Yeah, we met at

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a you had my dream job,
and that's what I was told. But

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when we started the Federal List,
I think we had a meeting when we

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first learned we were working with each
other. And they're like that where the

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Heritage Foundation is around the corners,
like a coffee shop or something. I

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forget what it is, but that's
where we first met for a meeting,

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and I think we hit it off
right away. Yeah, I remember when

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we were starting the Federalist you know, to start something out of nothing is

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anxiety inducing. And I knew you
and really liked you. I mean I

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knew who you were, I should
say, and really liked what you were

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doing. And it made me feel
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thing knowing that we were doing it
together. And I don't actually remember the

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first time I met you. I
remember the first time we had like a

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phone call. I remember exactly where
I was in my old house. Oh

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I don't remember that phone call.
But we met and you were like,

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wait are you David Harse, and
I said yes, and then we hit

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it off from there. I think
right away. We worked very closely together

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in our early Federalist years. Many
many it was insane. We were very

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much misled about how much work would
be involved. Yes, remember being up,

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We're like four o'clock in the morning, editing pictures, all of that.

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But but I have to say it
was also the most rewarding job I

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ever had, because building something from
scratch is such a incredible adventure, you

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know, and I had never done
that before. I've always worked for big

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organizations, so that was a lot
of fun for me. Still fun,

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but you know, just the beginning
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it. I do want to say
also that when you left for a period

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of time, I remember I remember
writing up a thing It's like, seriously

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going to make me cry, nice, Like there's the nicest thing anyone has

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ever. I was embarrassed by it, but I do appreciate it as well.

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No, I was really sad,
like you can tell because I'm crying

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when you left. And I do
remember a bunch of like people who I

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really respect, like really writers I
respect. They were like that was that

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was really great that you wrote up
like what you loved about his writing.

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Yeah, that was very nice and
I really appreciated it, and I appreciate

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it now, and then I appreciate
it so much it came back. I

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don't know about this one. If
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of your life, what would it
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have an answer for that. Oh. I don't like things like that.

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They're so limited because that's not how
I do things. Or when people say

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what's your number one favorite such and
such, it's like, well today it's

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this. But I do think about
it in terms of like when people say

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you can only take ten albums to
a desert island where you'll be able to

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listen to albums. And one thing
I find interesting is that even though well,

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what I listened to most is not
classical music, that's what I want

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to take if I'm going to a
desert island. I don't know what that

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means exactly. And so I really
like Bach. I have an extensive collection

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of Bach, and I would take, you know, the passions I would.

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I also like Smetana Move Lost,
I would take that. It's funny

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because I too would be I think
I know why the classical music. I

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think it's kind of like utilitarian where
it's the longest. It's got like really

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long and involved songs with many instruments, so you're not you know, it's

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not just this empty experience that you
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a deep depth to it. But
anyway, we didn't really answer that question,

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but I will say this is a
related question from another person whose name

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is Josh. Giving your extensive musical
knowledge and very tape, I'm curious what

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your pre fight walkout song would be
for disclosure purposes. Mine would be Mother

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by Dan zigg. I think that's
actually a pretty good one. Oh.

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I have this friend Rick who we
used to always talk about what you're at

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bat song would be, and he
thought it would be funny and would really

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mess with people. If his at
bat song was I'm So Pretty, that's

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good, but I don't know.
I would say mine would be Let's Dance

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by David Bowie. Really I love
that song. First of all, I

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know, I know, and I
feel like it just gives me all the

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good feelings like I can do anything. And I also just like, you

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know, I we go with something
filmic. Is that a word filmic?

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Like Shashtakach's Fifth Symphony? You know
what I mean? Something very traumatic?

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Okay, come out with the keep. You know. This is Pastor Matthew

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Harrison, president of the Lutheran Church
Missouri SI. The LCMS operates the second

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largest parochial school system in the United
States. What can you expect from a

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Lutheran Church Missouri sented school. There's
one race, the human race, and

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Jesus died for the sins of every
man, woman, and child, from

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every land and every nation. Life
begins a conception. All life is precious,

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from womb to tomb, and every
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in the very image of God.
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which is which from the Ten Commandments. There are only two sexes, male

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and female. He created them.
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and one woman. There's such a
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it's found in the person and work
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schools. So there's another question here
us kind of long, but it basically

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He's asking if there's one can conspiracy
theory you could believe, which one would

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it be for you? Like bigfoot
landing. I don't believe in any conspiracy

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theories. That's my shtick. I
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what's like the one conspiracy theory they
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people, you know, like senators
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first of all, it's just a
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if you're ever, you know,
just wanting to kind of get a conversation

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going at your house or something.
And the number one thing that people in

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DC say is that they do not
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was killed. That's just the if
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people and heard that so many times
from people who are otherwise not prone to

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conspiracy theorizing that it's made me be
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more. But I mean, it
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who didn't like JFK would shoot him, So I never really I think almost

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we've been culture surrounding that that we
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we were in the past. I'm
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the number one thing leading to conspiracy
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this late date, no president has
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makes me assume that whatever it is
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Donald Trump didn't release the info,
I was like, oh, this is

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bad. This one's bad. So
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and some people do have questions about
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fixed. I don't think so.
I do either. I think that the

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obvious pushback to conspiracies are that if
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be almost impot possible for them to
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idea, who, how do you
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the refs are in on it somehow, but players have to be in on

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it. And you're telling me that
no one ever spills the bean on some

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beans on something like that seems unlikely
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that someone was sharing with me was
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the colors of the Super Bowl logo. Each year the winning team is dominant

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in the color of the logo.
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of so silly and absurd. Do
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it. Do I believe that,
like NBA games are frequently rigged? Sure,

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sure, no problem, But I
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but I think like the lack of
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they lie to us so often,
is only going to make us more conspiratorially

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minded moving forward, because what can
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to us so often. Ovid the
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and on. So well, I
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I'm I think you and I both
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like an anti conspiracy theory nature.
So someone will say, In fact,

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someone was just asking me, did
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Bush's funeral, these like everyone got
an envelope and they all looked really

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surprised when they got the envelope.
Everybody but Donald Trump, So sorry,

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everybody, meaning the former presidents,
and I was like, yes, probably

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like a last minute instruction on where
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a thousand reasons why there's nothing weird
about getting an envelope. And that's kind

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of my nature as a journalist too, to kind of think through things.

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So when the conspiracy theory that Donald
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you know, took root around the
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to showing why that was ludacros as
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I will say going through that,
going through the process of debunking that

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widely held left wing conspiracy theory,
made me be more open to the idea

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that they had done similar operations in
the past and that they'll do similar operations

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in the future. So, like
Mark Elias tweeted recently that he wasn't sure

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what the details were, but he
was pretty sure that Donald Trump was about

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to be doing something illegal with regard
to the election. He didn't know what

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it was, but he was sure. You know. I was like,

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funneled with no consequences, the money
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his law firm to the people who
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So I was like, Okay,
so he's working on his next conspiracy theory

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that he will see with low information
voters and left wing journalists. You know,

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Sorry, I'm not answering that one, and I want to know any

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writing answer. Sorry, but what
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to really be talking about politics here, though. I will say that the

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destruction of the modern of the media
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this because they were the ones,
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these sorts of stories or create a
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that anymore. So it's very difficult
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few weeks ago someone was reminding people
that Glenn Kessler, who's supposedly the fact

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checker at the Washington Post, had
ripped Ted Cruz a new one because Ted

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Cruz had talked about like the possibility
that the COVID coronavirus had escaped the Wuhan

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Institute of Virology, where they were
working on coronavirus manipulation, and Glenn Kesler

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was like, what the senator doesn't
see is that there's a computerized animation showing

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that that's not likely. So we
rate this, you know, untrue.

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I was like, oh, dear, you know, a computerized animation showing

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that the that the virus could not
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But yeah, the media are so
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the conspiracy theories and helping censor people
who fight against them. Well, they

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actually take crude conspiracy theories and professionalize
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create these stories that seem plausible with
all kinds of journalistic language. So

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anyway, yes, yes, good
point. Okay, with all the negative

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issues facing our country and the constant
media attacks on conservatives, how do you

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keep your pleasant dispositions and keep a
balance with your families? This is from

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Barb from Buffalo. Like that question, Barb, I don't know how do

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you do it? I don't know
whytch things. I have a pleasant disposition

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at all. I have to be
honest with you, but I do not.

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I am not bothered by people attack
me, so not for the most

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part, and you get it.
I should say this. You always say

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everyone's nice to you, but I
would say that you have a much bigger

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profile, so you probably get a
ton more reactions to everything you say and

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do, right, I honestly view
this as a spiritual gift. I don't

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mean to be like to have like
a serious answer to these silly questions,

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but I think people are kind of
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They're not things you are responsible for. And I do not know why,

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but I have always had a pretty
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the right way to say it.
I sort of don't care about whether what

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I'm doing will actually lead to success
or not. I just focus on whether

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what I'm doing is the right thing
or not, and so I don't get

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super upset if the thing I'm doing
leads to a bad outcome because I never

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expected it in the first place.
Is that pessimism or optimism, Gosh,

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I don't know. I don't know, but I can vouch for this in

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a sense. So I don't really
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interests are esoteric, I would say, but sometimes I want to write something

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and like Molly no one's going to
care about this, and you're like,

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is it the right thing to do
than write it? Or is it true?

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Then write it? And that's you
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And I think that is a gift
in a way. Sometimes I wonder,

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though, is does it make Would
I be more popular if I only

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honed in on the things people want
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I you know, it's more I
don't know how to say a populist in

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the way I approach things, but
I can only see the world the way

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I do, and obviously you as
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I have a very bad memory,
and I think it's also a gift.

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I don't remember bad things that people
have said or done to me. I

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do remember if they said something mean
to like you, but for myself personally,

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and so it just makes it really
easy to if you're not holding grudges.

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And again that's not because I'm a
good person. It's literally just because

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I have a bad memory. But
it's a gift. Well, I would

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say this to Hell. I have
that problem as well. So what I

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do is I have a notebook and
I keep an enemy's list of people who

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have wronged me and said mean things
about me, and I you know,

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and I keep track. Actually,
I am quite I actually get over stuffed

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pretty quickly unless it's something very personal
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You know what I'm saying, Like, it's just like Harsani doesn't always

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talking about Harsni's an idiot. That
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Here's another serious question. Well,
but I just want to say one

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other thing. I actually do think
the fact that so many people go out

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of their way to be nice to
me does also help. And I find

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it interesting. They'll say they'll say
things like, you know, I just

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felt I felt like I should be
praying for you, and I'm praying for

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you, and I wanted you to
know that I'm praying for you, and

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I'm like, I'm glad that you're
praying for me. It does, it

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does help, And or they'll just
say I'm so glad you wrote this,

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or I'm so glad you said this. I've been wanting someone to do this,

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and I feel very frustrated when people
don't do it, and when you're

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dealing with all of that negative stuff
inside of DC knowing that there are real

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people who are good people, who
are all across the country who are like

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cheering you on. It does truly
help. I don't know if I could

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do it if it were that nobody
were behind me, Like I can deal

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with all the DC hostility, but
I'm not sure if I could deal with

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DC and general hostility, I'd probably
just yeah, you could deal with it,

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well, are you? Like?
Like I, it took me fifty

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years to learn how to take a
compliment, Like so if someone said something

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nice to me, I would immediately
put myself down or say something snarky or

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negative or sarcastic. So now lately
I'm like I say, I've been taught

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by my wife to say thank you. You know it. So I'm very

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uncomfortable when anyone says I'm more uncomfortable, I swear to you if someone's like

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raising me, you know, than
I am when someone's just attacking. So

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when like you wrote that wonderful piece
about me, I don't know, I

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didn't know that alread yet. My
mom always said she could handle people being

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mean, but the moment someone was
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I don't know, it's weird.
I don't know if it's my upbringing

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or whatever. I will say that
when my husband had to talk to me

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about this, because I'm always impressed
and surprised when people like recognize me outside

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of my house, you know,
like on the street, at airports at

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different places, and it really embarrasses
me because I'm not used to people being

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nice to me, like who are
strangers kind of you know. And Mark

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was like, Molly, you have
got to stop like being so embarrassed about

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people being nice, Like you have
to like, you know, go ahead

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and talk like you people ask you
for autographs and stuff like that or just

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selfie is or yeah, that must
be weird. I mean it probably used

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to by now, but really,
you know when people when you write a

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book and people are like, I'm
so sorry, would you mind signing my

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book? I'm like, there is
literally not an author in the world who

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gets upset being asked for an autograph
on their book, right. I can't

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even believe anyone would want my autograph, honestly, I'm just noone cares what

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they're saying, but I'm so happy
that someone's reading it, or you know,

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I just get That's one thing I
would say, never feel badly about

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asking an author for a signature of
their book. It makes them feel so

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great to know that people are reading
and enjoying their work. Yeah. Absolutely,

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this is kind of a serious question, but I'll ask it anyway.

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What concerns, if any, do
either of you have about possible violence from

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the left, extremists, et cetera
if Trump wins in November? Could it

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be work? Could? Could?
I guess saying, could it be worse

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than the BLM riots from a few
years ago. I am actually quite concerned

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because I don't think I don't think
either side's going to really accept the outcome

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of this election. But the left
has shown that they can actually mobilize sort

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of an act of I know everyone
talks about January sixth, but the left

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is far more proficient and as far
more widespread reach in ext reaction and violence,

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and that has been sort of a
leftist specialty for a very long time,

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going back to the French Revolution.
Probably, So, yeah, I

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am very concerned. I understand why
you're concerned, And I will also say

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that one of my big failures is
that I lack imagination to see what other

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people are planning on doing. But
in a way, I'm not super I

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mean, I'm not saying that I
don't expect it to happen. I do,

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but there are a few mitigating issues. So one is that there will

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be a lot of pressure, I
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That will make it a little bit
more difficult for the left to mobilize.

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They're internally divided. Their street action
right now is really focused on Jews

409
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:17,200
and fighting Israel and I depending on
how things go in terms of Israel's war

410
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,039
with Moss, like if it's over
by the fall, then yes, that'll

411
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:26,640
make it easier for there to be
street action against democracy, isn't there isn't

412
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,720
it easy to find some pretext,
you know, a single shooting. It

413
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,400
doesn't even have to actually be a
bad shooting, you know what I mean,

414
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,920
or something I mean, a cop
shooting, or you know. It's

415
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,640
just so easy for them to find
something to kind of rally the troops.

416
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,519
And they already have these organizations that
and Soros funded people who can go out

417
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:49,240
there and do it. No being
more negative than you about this, No,

418
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:52,119
I think you're right. But what
I was also going to say is

419
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,640
that we have experienced a little bit
of a little bit not enough of a

420
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:06,160
pushback against some of the these movements
that are hysterical that lead to dramatic bad

421
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:08,839
action, whether that's you know,
the COVID response or BLM riots or other

422
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,680
things like that. And so I
think that if they do it, and

423
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:18,799
they will again something this year,
I'm just not sure. Like you even

424
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:23,440
saw with the takeover of campuses that
people were not really feeling it as much

425
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,319
as they had in the past.
Corporations weren't bending the knee, Kamala Harris

426
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:33,000
wasn't offering to bail out, you
know, people who were setting buildings on

427
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:37,279
fire or whatever. So I'm just
not sure if it'll work as well.

428
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:41,480
I do also worry that, you
know, one of the things that's really

429
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:48,000
bad about law fair and making it
where like none of the institution, like

430
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,039
the only institution in the country that
truly works right now is the Supreme Court,

431
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:55,079
and the left is working very hard
to destroy that one too. Once

432
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:57,200
you do that, you give people
less reason to play within the system.

433
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:01,640
And so I worry about that on
both sides, right and left, that

434
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:07,119
they will move to political violence.
It's one of the reasons why we're in

435
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,880
desperate need of like not just statesmen, but domestic political leaders who can kind

436
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,319
of guide through this difficult process,
and we just don't seem to have that.

437
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:22,279
So I'm worried. But the Democrats'
inability to accept the results of the

438
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:29,559
twenty sixteen election are really kind of
the original sin of our current moment.

439
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:36,119
I feel like what they were willing
to do to stop Trump has destroyed so

440
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,920
many institutions, both before he was
elected and after, and even the twenty

441
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,920
twenty, like the j sixth stuff, is really best understood as a reaction

442
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:52,079
against what the regime was willing to
do to maintain power. So it's a

443
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:59,519
very destabilizing thing that Democrats ran their
resistance efforts after twenty sixteen and until they

444
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:02,720
are four to accept an election that
they've lost. I don't see it getting

445
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,960
better, but I do see things
getting truly better. If they were to

446
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,759
accept the results of an election they
lost, well, they might one day,

447
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:16,880
but even imagining them except a Donald
Trump election, especially after he already

448
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,039
lost and now he's come back,
that seems a heavy left. I think

449
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,519
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450
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457
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Okay, here's a question the MLB. Basically, the person whose name

458
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,119
I'm trying to find and I can't
find, is asking. And I think

459
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,480
we might have talked about this a
little bit at one point. But you

460
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,679
used to your Cardinals fan, used
to be a big baseball fan, but

461
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:21,440
you gave up on them. Is
there any way to recover that. Has

462
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:25,159
baseball turned a corner? Are they
better now? And also, how are

463
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:30,119
you a Cardinals fan if you're from
Colorado and you lived in the DC area?

464
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:35,760
Where did this question come from?
I unfortunately I don't see. I'm

465
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,920
curious. Okay, so I'll first
off start about how I became a Cardinals

466
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,480
fan. I was born in Colorado
and grew up in California, and my

467
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,239
dad was a big football fan,
so he kind of raised me to be

468
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,920
a Broncos fan. And my mother
was a huge baseball fan, so she

469
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,559
raised me to be a Cardinals fan. Because she is from Saint Louis originally,

470
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,639
so she was born in Saint Louis. Her family are all Cardinals fans.

471
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,360
That's continued to this day that like
most of my relatives are Cards fans.

472
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,360
And she would take me to Chavez
Ravine in LA to see the Cards

473
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:19,760
play the Dodgers like once a year. Some of my best earliest memories or

474
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,719
of that, I got to see
Fernando Valenzuela, you know, just great,

475
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:31,000
great. We had great seats that
were given to by parents by a

476
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:36,920
local businessman on the third baseline in
the club section, which it was really

477
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,280
cool, and I might even remember
like one time the guy sitting in front

478
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,159
of me got mad at me because
I kept accidentally kicking his seat. Really

479
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:51,760
important memories, you know. And
I saw a picture's duel that went into

480
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,559
extra innings that ended up won.
Nothing like, I got to see really

481
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:58,800
great things. So then I moved
to Colorado and continue to be a Cards

482
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,440
fan. I would go see them
all the time, saw them all the

483
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:06,719
time, and you know, make
trips out of it, and put a

484
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,960
lot of time and energy and effort
into being a fan. And in twenty

485
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:16,960
twenty, I did not like that
they embraced the racist BLM riots, that

486
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:22,320
they came out, that they had
several players who were really pushing for that

487
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,960
Marxist ideology. I really opposed the
racism of BLM, and I really opposed

488
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,400
Marxism. And I also just like
wanted baseball to be one of those places

489
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,199
where you could sit next to,
you know, a Chuck Schumer type and

490
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,960
it didn't matter because you were focused
on the field. And so I did

491
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:43,800
this really silly thing of writing them
a letter and saying, like, if

492
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,320
you do anything else political, like
I'm not going to be a fan anymore,

493
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,199
I'm not going to give money.
And so they'd also, you know,

494
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,280
bought into the COVID restrictions pushed by
Anthony Fauci and others and shut down

495
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:04,039
the season. And so the next
year, Joe Biden asked everyone to boycott

496
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:08,400
the state of Georgia for working to
improve the integrity of their election system.

497
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:14,239
And I was appalled by this.
I thought this was like horrific what he

498
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,239
was doing, and it was horrific
for anyone to go along with it.

499
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,920
And I was particularly appalled that Major
League Baseball went along with it. They

500
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:28,760
pulled the All Star Game from Georgia
and moved it to Colorado, and I

501
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,039
just decided that these people hate me, and if you hate me, I

502
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:35,360
don't need to give you money.
And so I realized that they tried to

503
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:39,199
quote unquote walk it back by returning
the All Star Game or so, I

504
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,320
don't even know. I did truly
stop watching. I mean I stopped watching,

505
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:49,239
I stopped supporting, I stopped giving
money. I was at breakfast with

506
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,599
a kid from church on Sunday and
he was like telling me all about the

507
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:57,079
Cards. He's a huge fan,
and I couldn't even couldn't even pretend to

508
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,360
be part of the conversation because I
have no idea what's going on, so

509
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,079
what I wouldn't need. No,
I'm saying like, oh, you know,

510
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,519
and he and I used to like
have really fun conversations. I did

511
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:14,960
give him like this awesome vintage cards
jacket this year that is so cool.

512
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:17,480
But anyway, my point being,
what I need is something I will never

513
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:22,599
get. What I need is an
apology, and they're never going to apologize.

514
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:27,400
So it's done. And I'm really
sure it was from Daniel in Perryville

515
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,719
Misery. Good question, Daniel,
anyway, I don't judge other people for

516
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,280
continuing to love baseball. I wish
I could get over this. I don't

517
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,719
even I mean, I truly wish
I wasn't so constrained. And I've had

518
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,079
very high profile individuals who are baseball
fans try to get me back on the

519
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,239
wagon. So I don't want to
say like never, but they just it's

520
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,519
like if your spouse cheats on you, you've just kind of lost something,

521
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:00,400
you know, And that's kind of
how I feel like. I just feel

522
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,079
like they cheated on me and they
hate me, and they haven't really done

523
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:06,440
a good job of doing anything dramatic
to get me back, and I know

524
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:08,960
they don't care about me at all, you know. So sorry that was

525
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:15,840
a way too long answer. No, it was good. Here's a complaint,

526
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,559
Gosh, I didn't write the name
day. I wish that you and

527
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:21,679
David would embrace the true diversity of
your devoted audience. I have at the

528
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,119
slightest idea, who any of these
obscure rock and roll musicians are. Would

529
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:28,119
you please attend a concert at the
Kennedy Center we're met and give us a

530
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:31,280
full report. You need to palent
cleanse after all the discussion of popular music.

531
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,239
Now I have to say, I
feel like the music we took about

532
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,159
isn't very obscure most of the time
at all. I mean, last episode

533
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:45,320
we were talking about Leonard Cohen,
and we've spoken about like New Order.

534
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,239
I mean, those are like massive
bands. I try to keep I like

535
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,360
obscure music a lot, and I
try to keep that off the show anyway.

536
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,480
I guess it's more of a defense
for me. I just to say

537
00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:00,440
that the last time I went to
the Kennedy Center I heard Sue f Sufjan

538
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:02,880
Stevens. That was great. I
was pregnant with my oldest And then the

539
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,800
time before that was when my husband
proposed to me at the Kennedy Line.

540
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:14,519
Oh really, that's that's exciting.
I need to go back there. That

541
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:17,599
would be fun. It just seems
like so expensive. I did see an

542
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:23,840
opera up at gosh, what's that
place where Salmon rushed he was stabbed?

543
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,880
Wow? Was that in New York
somewhere? It's yeah, I don't remember,

544
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,440
come on, hold on, hold
on pause. It the Chautauqua Institution

545
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,559
in New York. I was speaking
up there two summers ago, and I

546
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:40,599
got to see an opera and I
was like, Oh, I do like

547
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:44,719
opera. I should go to this
more. But then I looked into tickets

548
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,519
and it's so expensive. So we'll
do our best, dear listener. But

549
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,920
I mean, we've spoken about Bach, we've Isn't that more obscure? Is

550
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,960
an opera these days more obscure?
Yes? I can promise you that an

551
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,519
opera is more sure than most of
the musicians we talk about. But we

552
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,599
do have a diverse crowd. We
have to do what they ask. So

553
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,760
I have two questions I think they're
related here. One of them is from

554
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,559
David and Bentley, Louisiana. He
mentions that President reaganet had repeatedly said liberty

555
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:21,920
was never more than one generation away
from extinction. He is basically saying that

556
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:31,559
it's the younger generation that has finally
succumbed basically to the I would say the

557
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:37,840
educational systems kind of propaganda and leftist
bent and he mentions the Hamas protests and

558
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,760
so on. So essentially he's asking, do you think that basically there's any

559
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,079
redemption, Is there any way out
of this, or is it just that

560
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:50,920
we're lost because of younger people in
our society who have been brainwashed? What

561
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,760
do you think? I think that
it is a huge problem there, maybe

562
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:59,119
not as big as we think,
because I have seen polling of young people,

563
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:01,360
and even most young people in college, for instance, do not agree

564
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,079
with the protesters and are generally pro
Israel or not that that's the only topic

565
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,599
we're talking about. I do think
it's a can't I do think higher ed

566
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:13,639
is a cancer on this country in
the sense that they have been completely taken

567
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,920
over or most of the most of
our lead institute learning institutions have been taken

568
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,880
over by the hard left. I'm
not even talking about people who are like

569
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:24,679
you know, I don't know,
who have sort of center left opinions like

570
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,960
when I was younger, But I'm
talking about basically communists. And it's not

571
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,920
like there's some weirdo now teaching at
this school or that school. They literally

572
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,400
run the place in many many of
these institutions, and that is a serious

573
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,280
problem. Not because most people with
young people are affected by that, but

574
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,639
that a lot of the young people
end up at the state's apartment, who

575
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,480
end up teaching again, who end
up in media, are you know,

576
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,840
have that kind of point of view
and those people are in a sense running

577
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,400
the country and that is incredibly dangerous. How about you. I don't know

578
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:01,159
the answer to these questions. I
think their interests. I do think things

579
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,880
could get very bad, very quickly, and it could be over. I

580
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,000
also think that you have to just
fight and stay nimble and look for opportunities

581
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,159
to improve things. So if I
can, sorry, I'm like all over

582
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:19,159
the place on this, but I'm
reminded of something Charles Kroudhammer said to me

583
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,039
during like twenty sixteen, where he
was saying that for years he'd been saying,

584
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,880
like how bad the situation was getting
in the country, but it always

585
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:34,960
seemed to be fine, and he
was wondering if maybe he had overestimated the

586
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:39,880
serious nature of the problems. And
this was partly a conversation really about Trump

587
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:45,039
and support for Trump, which he
opposed, but he was always very open

588
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:51,280
minded and looking for explanations about why
people were supportive of him. But he

589
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,400
was thinking, like maybe the breakdown
in the country that he had been predicting

590
00:43:57,039 --> 00:44:00,599
was happening, and that the loss
of support for institutions and the you know

591
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:06,320
sort of like change in character of
the country, that that really was happening.

592
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:13,840
And so I think sometimes it's such
a slow decline usually that you can

593
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:16,320
kind of you kind of cope and
think like, oh, it's not so

594
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,920
bad. It's pretty bad. Right
now, we've got open embrace of all

595
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,480
sorts of bad things, whether it's
you know, killing of children, mutilation

596
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:30,320
of children, complete rejection of the
constitutional order, a completely unaccountable bureaucracy,

597
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:35,199
like an embraceive tyranny that you would
have hoped never would have happened in this

598
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:40,079
country. But also things can change, Things can change, so you could

599
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:47,039
see an you know, sometimes something
else bad will happen, but it will

600
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:52,920
result in a clarified thinking. You
know, so an outside threat or you

601
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:58,880
know, other countries that are experiencing
turmoil might provide some focus to us too.

602
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,519
I don't know. My point is
being you fight and fight and fight,

603
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:06,840
and you look for opportunities. So
even though it's dark, and on

604
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,320
that point too, I would just
say, as bad as progressive education is,

605
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,159
the progressive education model what's happening in
government schools. There has been an

606
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:21,679
absolute revolution in classical learning. That's
happening in you know, church schools,

607
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:28,480
secular schools, homeschools. Like there's
there's a nice contingent of people who are

608
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:32,440
actually getting a good education and who
are giving getting the skills to withstand the

609
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:38,000
peer pressure of their of their generation. So that makes me a bit optimistic

610
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:44,960
too. Yeah, I would say
that people think that there's historicism, like

611
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,280
there's a trajectory of history and it
happens. I would say that just think

612
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,639
about events like nine to eleven.
You know, I'm not saying everything changed

613
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:55,199
for the better, but everything changed
and our politics changed, and so that

614
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,719
happens all the time. There's no
inevitability in anything. But that said,

615
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:06,880
it's like you were saying, how
things kind of start corroding and then you

616
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,039
know, it gets worse slowly.
But I think there's also like things that

617
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:13,920
happen that accelerate the process. And
I've noticed that since the Trump presidency.

618
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,480
I think that process not because of
Donald Trump, so that's part of it.

619
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:21,079
In a way, things have accelerated. Like I just if you ask

620
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,880
a normal aggressive now I think they
hate this country. I think they think

621
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,960
where that we are the evil in
this country. And that's always been a

622
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,079
position of like the Chomsky college student, but now it is like a position

623
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:36,760
of people on CNN, on the
Washington Post editorial board, and it gets

624
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,159
worse and worse. And if you
ask them, is the Constitution generally a

625
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:43,000
good thing to follow in this and
that I don't think they would like.

626
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,880
I don't think they like those ideas. You know, you'd always be like

627
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:49,400
people talk about Nash I'm all over
the place, but people talk about nationalism,

628
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,639
and everyone's like, well, America
isn't the same. It's not an

629
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:53,400
ethnicity. It's an idea that we
all have to accept. I actually believe

630
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,440
in that, but they don't believe
in that idea anymore. So then what

631
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,480
do we have. We just have
a bunch of people here who don't have

632
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:04,320
a shared understanding of our history or
shared understanding of the things that we stand

633
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,079
for. And we're there now.
I think we're there now. I think

634
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:09,280
it's a huge problem and I don't
know how it's going to end, but

635
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:15,599
I am concerned, all right.
So that was fun for this uplifting episode.

636
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,719
So this person asks, I'm just
going to just so this person also

637
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,159
asks or another person, I'm sorry, what are their places? Like?

638
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,320
Ivy League schools are lost, even
a lot of state schools are lost.

639
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,079
Where should can a person send their
kids? And do they need a degree

640
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:38,239
for everything that they're interested in the
society? Obviously, I think you'd say

641
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:45,679
Hillsdale is a place where one can
go to avoid that sort of thing,

642
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,119
right. I feel like you might
be better at speaking to this because your

643
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,960
kids are older, and so we're
just kind of starting this whole process.

644
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:59,760
I do think Hillsdale is a good
choice for many people. It's also a

645
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,880
very competitive, very small school,
so most people who want to go there,

646
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,920
like the vast majority of people who
want to go there, aren't going

647
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,199
to get in, so there have
to be other options. I do like

648
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:13,079
the core curriculum that we provide at
Hillsdale. I think it gives you great

649
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:16,360
a great basis from which to do
whatever you want to do, you know,

650
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:22,760
whether that's math or sciences or humanities
whatever. Like, it's a great

651
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:28,320
broad education that will serve you well. So I'd be looking for schools that

652
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,239
do something along those lines. But
I have nieces, you know who are

653
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,920
I am a niece who's on a
full ride engineering scholarship. I don't think

654
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,280
it really. I think she's been
you know, she's at a large state

655
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,559
school that has served her well,
and she's not really embroiled in any of

656
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:51,400
the silliness there. So each kid
matters each school. Listen again, I'm

657
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,880
going to say that I don't I'm
not handling this this advice for whatever you

658
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,440
want, but I would there are
very few schools I would trust with my

659
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,360
kids they were on some kind of
social science, you know. But STEM

660
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,800
degrees I think are different. Even
though even there this stuff has kind of

661
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,679
seeped in in many ways. But
I think if you're going to school for

662
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,440
something that's serious, like a STEM
degree or what And I'm not saying other

663
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,039
things aren't serious, but I think
you need school obviously for anything math or

664
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:20,719
science or that kind of thing.
As far as like do I need degrees

665
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,199
for things you're interested in? I
mean, like journalism. I don't think

666
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,679
that anyone should get a journalism degree. That's a two year trade school at

667
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,039
best and an internship, you know
though, you know, I mean you

668
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:31,960
need to learn how to write,
you have to be you know, there

669
00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:35,519
are certain things you need to learn
for journalism, but a lot of it's

670
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:38,159
common sense and hard work. So, you know, I wish we didn't

671
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:45,239
cheat these kids and parents out of
hundreds of thousands of dollars because of government

672
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,519
moral you know, hazard that they've
created with these the loan racket. It's

673
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,280
sending kids to school to do those
sorts of things. That's just my view.

674
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,440
I'm sure there are good schools that
have good social science programs as well,

675
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:04,760
but not the Ivy League ones.
What is the one essential book that

676
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,119
you've written that people need to immediately
purchase on Amazon or Barnes and Noble,

677
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:15,280
et cetera, et cetera. I've
only written two, all right, Which

678
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,519
one would do you think that if
people had to? Well, I don't

679
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:25,119
know. Both your books are kind
of important. I don't know how about

680
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:30,840
you answer both. I've written a
few books, and if I the one

681
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,679
I had the most fun writing and
I think is the best other than the

682
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:37,840
one I'm working on now, I
would say is my gun book First Freedom.

683
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:43,519
It's a history book, and I
think that people had the wrong impression

684
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:45,480
of it when it came out and
thought it was just going to be another

685
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:49,039
political book about guns, not there's
anything wrong with political books about guns,

686
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:52,159
but it's really more of a cultural
history of why guns are important to Americans.

687
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,920
I did a lot of research for
that book, and I'm very proud

688
00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:00,280
of that book. Proud of most
of my books, except for one,

689
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,280
which I think was hacked up,
but I'm not going to get into that

690
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,199
now. But got that book.
I think if you're going to read anything

691
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,199
by me, it would be the
one to read if you're interested in that

692
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:14,119
topic. Does the Federalist offer to
words? Then I wanted to give ah,

693
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,599
Oh my god, I've always said
mention something. Sorry. I yeah.

694
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:20,880
So my first book I did with
Carrie Severino, who is awesome,

695
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,039
truly one of America's great people.
Justice on Trial, the Kavanaugh Confirmation,

696
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:30,760
in the Future of the Supreme Court. It is about Kavanaugh, and I

697
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,400
love what we put in there about
Kavanaugh, but it's also about the Supreme

698
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,800
Court and why its composition matters,
and how nominations have gone in the past,

699
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:43,599
even like how Republicans failed for so
many years prior to Trump to uphold

700
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:47,119
the promises they made their voters.
And it's just I liked that book.

701
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:50,559
I like how it turned out.
I liked how it was edited and all

702
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,039
that. And then the other one, which I did not have so much

703
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:55,920
fun writing, but which ended up
selling even more, which I think I

704
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,639
hear more from people about, was
rigged, how the media, big tech

705
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:07,039
and Democrats seized our elections, and
so it looks at election stuff, and

706
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:10,440
I wrote it because I needed to
know what was going on after the twenty

707
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,800
twenty election. And there's nothing in
there that's not substantiated. You know.

708
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,800
It's not like, oh, this
could have happened or that could have happened.

709
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,519
It's all about like what actually happened, what money went into it,

710
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:28,039
how it was orchestrated, how it
played out in different states. And I

711
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:30,800
think it was helpful to a lot
of people to see what was done to

712
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:37,199
take over our elections, you know, and how important it is to know

713
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,199
what's going on so you can fight
it. And so I think that even

714
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,639
though I really preferred the first one, in many ways, I think that

715
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:47,079
one might be more important for our
current moment. I don't know what.

716
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:52,039
Let me add to this. I
would say that the reason I loved writing

717
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:53,800
first rooms because I was learning as
I wrote, and I think that that

718
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,280
is the most fun way to write. But so I want to say Justice

719
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,960
on Trial. Both of your books
are great, obviously, but Justice on

720
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:07,519
Trial was an incredible piece of journalism
in a way that in history, that

721
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:10,679
gave you such good context as to
what's going on in the courts. And

722
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:16,360
you know, I think even today, if you're just watching the delegitimization of

723
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,960
a court by the left, you
read that book and you understand the roots

724
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,679
of that, and it is just, you know, one of my favorite

725
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:30,280
political books. I want to say, so kudos to you. What's I

726
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,719
don't know the quite what's the longest
you could reasonably go without checking your phone?

727
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,440
Well, I have to say last
week I kind of like shut off

728
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:44,280
my phone for days basically and just
to like, it's just I can't.

729
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,639
I'm not going to say I'm overwhelmed, but I was kind of just sick

730
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:49,480
of everything already, and sometimes you
just need that break. So I would

731
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:54,079
say, you know, twenty four
hours. It's a bad question. I

732
00:53:54,119 --> 00:54:00,960
don't I'm angry at the question.
It's a great question, but it indicts

733
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,480
me as a person, like I
don't think I could go very long without

734
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:07,920
it. Sometimes I tell my husband
that I want to get a dumb phone,

735
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,840
and he reminds me that I do
my entire life on my phone and

736
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,960
that I would not be able to
continue, you know, doing what I

737
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,360
do if I didn't have the phone
there. And one thing I like about

738
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,119
it is that it does enable me
to be with my children. Like I

739
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:27,760
can go to a game or something
and then just like in the parking lot

740
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,239
before I go in, make sure
there's nothing that I have to address or

741
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,280
like when it's done, you know. And so it does enable me to

742
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,599
do a lot with my family that
I like. But I kind of wish

743
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:42,840
I could check it, And probably
the answer is on the weekends when I

744
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,199
don't actually check it for most of
time. I mean, you're a mom

745
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:50,480
with kids at home, so you
have to like be you know, available,

746
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:52,760
right and also you know you're running. You're the editor in chief of

747
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,760
the Federalist dot com, so you
need to be there too. This is

748
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:04,000
a complaint. Sometimes when you're samantling
the left's latest severe to alarming excesses,

749
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,239
one or both of you will say, quote, it's insane, and I

750
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,480
will think, no, it's not. Some of these voters may be crazy,

751
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:14,000
but the leaders know exactly what they're
doing. They're depraved, monstrous,

752
00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:19,159
demonic, but insane. No,
we have to stuff using insane. I

753
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:23,119
think I think it was I think
I was in a meeting with Chris Bedford

754
00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:29,039
and some senators. I think he
was the one who made this point,

755
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:34,960
like there's nothing insane about what they're
doing. It's very strategic. And I

756
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,719
do agree that we shouldn't call it
insane when they are just like really wielding

757
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:45,199
their power smartly. But it just
feels so crazy. I disagree. I

758
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,039
think when you sometimes have you did
you see some of those protesters being interviewed

759
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:51,440
or whatever? I mean, I
think there are a lot of people who

760
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,719
are a bit insane. I guess. I guess it's hyperbole to some extent,

761
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,960
but you know what I'm saying,
Like, I think they're true.

762
00:55:59,039 --> 00:56:02,639
There are true beliers out there who
are just unhinged. I get unhinged maybe

763
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:08,039
a better word. All Right,
I think this will be our last question

764
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:14,519
before we call it a day,
before we call it a podcast. It's

765
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:19,559
from Brianna. What is a dream
podcast guest for you? Like, if

766
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:22,800
you can interview anyone like, let
me even expand it and say anyone in

767
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,880
history or and then anyone living.
Is that too much to put you on

768
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:35,320
the spot with In the universe of
things that have existed, this definitely puts

769
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,599
me on the spot. So can
you tell me what your answer is while

770
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:42,599
I think of one I have.
I'll preface this again by saying that I

771
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:45,280
have actually met a lot of the
people who were my heroes when I was

772
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,280
younger who influenced me, and I
have to say most of those meetings were

773
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:52,119
not as fulfilling as I expected.
I think a lot of people who I

774
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:55,840
met, who I liked a lot, were not as fun to be around.

775
00:56:57,559 --> 00:57:00,119
If I could interview anyone, I
mean, this is weird, and

776
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:04,280
it's not because I am like a
worship him or anything, but I would

777
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,039
love to like speak to Ronald Reagan, you know. I think that'd be

778
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:13,559
a really good one and weirdly to
kind of dispel a lot of myths about

779
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:17,840
him, you know, both the
you know, both the the worshipful myths,

780
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,320
but also some of the other myths. So that's just one that popped

781
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,679
into my head. Obviously historically speaking, you know, I'd love to talk

782
00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:30,400
to like Alexander Hamilton or something living
I don't really know. I mean,

783
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:35,079
if we're going through history, you're
gonna say, Jesus, aren't you?

784
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,039
I was thinking Moses. Moses would
be I mean, King David. His

785
00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:45,039
story is insane, right sat Ron. Sometimes I get excited about thinking about

786
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:50,360
in heaven you get to talk to
these people, which just let's still questions,

787
00:57:50,679 --> 00:57:59,960
that's full of active living. I
don't know I would probably so I'm

788
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:05,360
not very good at asking questions in
an interview context. It mostly works when

789
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,199
I really when I feel like either
slightly antagonistic towards someone, you know,

790
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:14,519
so like a Hillary Clinton might be
a good interview where I could kind of

791
00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:17,480
ask her about the Russia collusion hoax
that would be interesting to me, or

792
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:22,920
other people who like had to kind
of sit there and answer questions or you

793
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:29,960
know that type of thing that's interesting. Totally cheesy. But what I love

794
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:35,440
about this podcast is that I frequently
forget that I am recording a podcast.

795
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,960
I always feel like it's just like
I get to talk to you. And

796
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,920
that's my idea of a good podcast, when it's less about like we're going

797
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,199
to tackle this such and such,
and it's more like, hey, what

798
00:58:45,239 --> 00:58:47,480
did you think about this or that? And I that's what I value.

799
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:52,480
So you know what my answer is
cheesy as it is, David Harseli,

800
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:59,440
and you say Molly having yeah,
no, no, you say thank you.

801
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:04,360
I was gonna oh thank you.
See I kind of like sarcastic about

802
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,159
it. Yeah, I don't,
I do, I do? I do?

803
00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:12,599
I mean, listen, we got
tons of mail and a lot of

804
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:15,159
It's like, Molly's my favorite person
on Earth. I get to interview Molly

805
00:59:15,159 --> 00:59:20,199
every week, ask whatever I want. Can it really is cheesy? We

806
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,199
better stump? Yeah. I guess
I could have come up with some musicians

807
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,280
or something. I think that would
be more interesting than political people, right,

808
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,960
who are usually pretty boring and have
stock answers to everything you know.

809
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:35,280
No, I think that while musicians
are wonderful, creative geniuses, I also

810
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:43,079
wonder if if they would be really
boring to interview that's interesting, they probably

811
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:45,320
would be. I have to say, I'm listening to this podcast now that

812
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,599
has very famous actors on all the
time, and I'm kind of taken aback

813
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:52,039
by how like listen, I never
had very high opinion of actors, but

814
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:59,119
a lot of them are quite boring
and not very intelligent. Anyway, of

815
00:59:59,199 --> 01:00:02,360
course, we have to end the
end the podcast by insulting people. But

816
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that was a very enlightening and interesting
conversation. We'll be back next week,

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and I hope everyone will as well. Until then, be lovers of freedom and