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M what's up Titans fans. Maximus
Titan Fan here with the Titans Fan Battle

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podcast, brought to you by the
Fan Battle Sports Network, and I am

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proud to announce that we have a
special guest with us tonight, mister Tyler

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Rowland from the Lockdown Titans podcast.
Go ahead and introduce yourself, Tyler.

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Tell everybody where they can find you
at. Yeah sure, Tyler Roland,

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host of the Locked On Titans podcast
Monday through Friday on YouTube Locked On Titans

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YouTube channel at TikTok Titans on Twitter, where I'm sure we all met each

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other first, and then I do
write for Sports Illustrated at All Titans dot

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com covering the team on a daily
basis pretty much everything you need to know,

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so any of those places. But
thanks for having me on first and

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foremost, I appreciate it. Excited
to talk some ball. Oh yeah,

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we were super thrilled to have you
on. Man. Like I said,

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you know you you were obviously one
of my huge inspirations for even starting this

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podcast. So I'm you know,
grateful to you that you were able to

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come on and give me a shout
out and everything that you're just the greatest

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ever. If you don't know this
man, you don't watch him on YouTube.

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You should be in every day or
just like me, get on there,

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hit the like button, subscribe everything. Man, this dude is awesome.

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Thank you for being on our show. Thank you. So let's they've

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brought into it training camp. You
know, we're back in training camp.

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Everything's going on. Today was the
first day with pads, So I guess

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my first question for you would be
the defensive line domination. You know,

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we've seen it without the pads.
I was kind of hoping we wouldn't see

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it with the pads, but with
the pads, it seems like they're still

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getting kind of dominated out there.
And I heard that Harold Landry was just

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kind of having his way with Andrea
Dillard. What do you kind of make

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of that? And what is your
assessment that is it that our offensive line

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is just having a real big issues
or is it our the defensive line is

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just really that good? Or is
it a combination? Well, I think

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what's the Drake meme that's going around
right now. Combination that's what it is

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right there. I mean, obviously
we all expected the Titans defensive line to

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be awesome, right, so why
would everybody act out be surprised any of

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that when the Titans defensive line is
in fact awesome, and we're hoping that

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the Titans defensive line would be great
against anybody, let alone the Titans offensive

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line, which we know, even
if everything goes well, they're probably an

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average offensive line, you know what
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So I think the odds are that
it's you know, gonna fall somewhere

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in the middle of the Titans offensive
line will be a little bit better,

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maybe not as good as average,
but still probably worse than we all hope

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with our most optimistic versions of what
the offensive line could be. But it's

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a brand new offensive line. I
saw something today that the Titans have like

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the least amount of returning snaps on
their offensive line, which makes sense.

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So it's a new offensive line just
now. Getting pads on the Titans defensive

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line should be awesome. I think
that you should be just as concerned about

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the offensive line right now as we
were before they ever started playing. And

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that is just a healthy amount of
skepticism as to whether this new group is

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good enough. I think the Titans
are probably taking an offense to blindman next

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year. In the first round of
the draft too, like that'll be a

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number one top need no matter what
happens here. So, UM, I

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guess I'm I'm just I feel the
same way about the Titans offensive line as

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I did before, and everything that's
happened just kind of confirms it, not

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really changes my mind. All right, All right, well that is well

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answered, well answered. What else
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I mean, are you is it
panic vote for the offensive line already?

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I mean, if you want to
go that route, you might end

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up being right anyway. So I
can't tell you that you're wrong, you

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know, I don't. I don't
necessarily want to hit the panic button yet.

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Um, I would like to see
how they do against other competition,

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you know, like I'll be more
interested when the preseason starts or when we

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get the I don't now the Patriots
is the never mind, that's that's further

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on, so that that joint practice
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So first preseason game is when,
well, when I'll actually start to judge,

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you know, what's going on and
if we need to hit the panic

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button or not. You know,
that's that's my whole feeling I want to

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see him against other competition. I
have some very skeptical optimism at the highest

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point for this. Uh well,
one thing I do really want to know

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is, because I haven't really been
able to see it for myself, is

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how is Scarronsky doing? Is he
is he coming along or what are we

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playing him at guard tackle? What
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Yeah, Scarronsky's playing at guard.
It's funny because when Rabel started talking about

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who could be the starter at right
tackle instead of NPF, you know what

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options there were, and he was
naming the internal options. He was asked

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about Scarronsky and whether Scarronsky would move
to right tackle, and he basically said,

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no, we want to let him
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We think, and I think this
is this is purely just theory from me,

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but I think Scarronsky's just awesome at
guard. And they're like, listen,

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you know, we could move him
out to tackle and he'll be pretty

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good, but we might have like
a Pro Bowl. And I know that

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Pro Bowl doesn't mean what it used
to because of the alternates and all that,

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but I think everybody has an understanding
of what you mean. He may

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not be like the best top five
guard in the NFL, but he might

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be like top ten, you know. So I think he could be like

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a Pro Bowl level guard immediately.
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think their zone scheme, I know
they're gonna mix in more power.

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We've seen Jordan rus pulling in a
video, and they're working on their power

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and their man run games. They
want to diversify the run games so that

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they have answers for every defense,
but they're still gonna have the bread and

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butter inside zone outside zone stuff with
Dereck Henry that we're used to. And

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when you run those plays, the
middle three, the guards in the center

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have to work so well together to
execute those reach blocks and those scoop blocks,

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and do these double teams before they
climb up the linebackers and communicate who's

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double teaming and who's climbing, and
like, all of that stuff is so

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important to the Titans run game that
I think when you have an excellent like

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look what Roger south Fool did when
he was hearing healthy, Like he was

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awesome to have a big body guy
who can just move guys and still move

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their feet too, So I think
Scarronki is just so good at guard that

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they would rather Basically, if you
move Scronsky to right tackle and you put

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somebody else in at left guard,
now you're worse at right tackle and you're

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worse at left guard. If you
leave Scarnsky at left guard, just put

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in whoever at right tackle, at
least you're only worse at right tackle.

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So I think that Scronsky has the
ability to play tackle, but I think

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they just want him to be a
freaking awesome guard right now, and he

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can be that, and they need
that more. I think long term,

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I agree, I agree, yeah
personally, me personally, I think it's

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a little too early to go in
panic mode. I feel like we just

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need to kill later play out.
I mean usually, um usually, most

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of the time, defense is always
one step ahead of the offense and train

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to count. It's just how it
is, like they it's easy to jail

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as a defense than it is with
an offense. And I feel like after

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last year Dennis Daily and all the
rotation we had, it can't get no

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worse. So we'll definitely better be
better than last year. So everybody just

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take it to everybody just take it
to your pills. Just training to count.

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We do have a beast defensive line
and we'll we'll get their offensive line

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would definitely be better. So everybody
just chill. Yeah, I pretty much

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agree with that. You know,
there's there's not really you know, too

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much to panic on right now.
Um, So on to the next big

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question I had for you, Taja
Sharp, he's kind of not been talked

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about or excuse me, oh my
goodness, I went back in time.

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Yeah, sorry, I went back
in time about ten years there, Taja

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Spears. I did it again,
didn't I? Uh no, I gotta

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write the time. I wrote it
down wrong, Okay, that's what I

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did. Okay. Anyway, Spears
hasn't been talked about much lately. It's

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kind of been like on my mind, you know, like is he kind

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of falling out or is he just
kind of like mixing in or people just

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now just starting to get used to
him being awesome. Well, I think

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that with the lack of pads the
last few days, I mean, they

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put the pads on now, but
with the lack of pads, I don't

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think people really care what happens in
the run game. You could tell me

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that somebody busted off a big run. But if there are no pads,

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I mean, you know what,
the passing game is different. The passing

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game is That's why seven on seven
and stuff is so critical to practice and

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what they're working on because that really
does translate. But run blocking without pads

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is I mean, you're basically bird
dogging it at that point and just kind

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of going through the motions of what
you would do since you can't really move

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anybody around or anything. So I
think with that being the case, there's

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not going to be as much pub
for running backs just in general because the

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majority of where their value is just
isn't respected at that time. With the

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pads coming on now this week,
maybe we'll get a little bit more of

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that and there will be some more
exciting in there. But I know Spears

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dropped a couple of passes in practice
a couple of practices ago over the weekend

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and stuff like that, So I
think he's just adjusting and learning a new

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offense. But I think that Taj
Spears when the lights turn on, is

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gonna be awesome and he's gonna be
somebody that people A lot of people were

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doing the whole you know, worry
about his knee when he was drafted,

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and that kind of killed some of
the excitement about him as a player.

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But I think he's a three down
running back who can catch the ball out

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of the backfield. I don't think
he's quite you know, Alvin Kamara or

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anything Christian McCaffrey level catching the ball
out of the backfield. I just think

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that he can do it. But
he can also run the ball and actually

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spell Derek Henry for some carry.
So I think he's gonna have more value

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than people realize. But I think
just circumstance and maybe him coming along a

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little slow has led to not a
lot of conversation I guess about him.

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That was a big thing with me
with Spears is that I was really excited

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about it. I need him to
take carries off of Dereck Henry's workload.

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Yeahs, I'm just not sold on
Hassan Haskins at all, and especially with

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all the turmoil it's been going on
this offseason with him. Who knows what's

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going to happen with him, So
really I really want Spears to succeed.

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I saw the report about his knee
apparently not having much cartilage left in his

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knee at all. So I don't
know if there's any more reports that have

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come out on that, or if
we know anything more about that now or

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what's going on. I think it's
just we know what we know. He

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had two ACL tears in the same
knee. There's no ACL left in the

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knee. He's probably not going to
be able to have the longest career of

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all time. Maybe he will,
but I think the reality always was that

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for better or for worse. I
don't want to get into the whole running

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back philosophical debate, but the smart
thing to do with running backs is now

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draft them, keep them for their
rookie contract, let him leave afterwards,

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and draft somebody new. And from
the Titans perspective, it may seem inhumane

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to talk about players like this,
but the reality is the Titans should probably

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just keep Taj Spears for the four
years of his rookie contract and then let

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him go in draft a new,
cheaper, younger Taj Spears again. You

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know, that's just it's unfortunate.
Like I said, it's very inhumane to

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say it that way, but that's
just the way that is right, you

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know. And like all of this, John and Jonathan Taylor's stuff is happening,

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and like even go back to Edri
and James replaced Marshall fault because they

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didn't want to pay, and Joseph
and I replaced Edri and James because they

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didn't want to pay. Just an
example in the division, like this has

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been going on for a long time
and now it's just in the public consciousness.

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But I feel bad from the Taja
Spears angle. I wouldn't want to

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hear this if I was his friend
or his family. But the truth is

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the Titans probably just keep him the
four years and let him go, and

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then a knee injury that will limit
how long he can play isn't even a

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factor because you're only keeping him four
years anyway. So I guess I didn't

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have I didn't have a lot of
concerns about the injury news because he tours

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ACL last in twenty twenty, which
means he played two seasons without that ACL,

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right, and those were great seasons, and he played great last year,

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so clearly he could play without the
ACL And if the issue is long

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term, you know, then the
Titans probably won't have him long term anyway,

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because that's how the running back position
is. So I just don't see

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the downside really at that time,
unless you just say you shouldn't draft a

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running back in the third round anyway, go later, you know whatever.

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I did see one person that was
like, well, you can't tear an

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A c L if you don't have
it, so that's a plus, right

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right, Yeah, you brought up
my you brought up my counterpoint that Tyler

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was that all the highlight reels you
watch on Taj Spears is him without the

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A c L like ninety percent of
all of them, or him without an

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A c L. Right, So
I'm not worried about it. I think

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he's gonna be fantastic at this level. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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All right. So the other big
question I had for you is how much

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does having d hop improve Traylon Burkes
and his play. I think it's huge.

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So as I kind of did earlier
when we talked about how like the

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zone scheme, how important it is
for the interior three, I'm going to

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dive into something that's a little scheme
related here too, And I think any

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Titans fan listening can picture the play
in their mind. I feel like Matthew

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McConaughey and a time to kill.
Close your eyes and picture for me if

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you will. But literally, the
Titans have two tight ends, one on

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each side of the offensive line,
Derrick Henry in the backfield, two wide

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receivers, one on each side.
They play action to Derrick Henry. One

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of the wide receivers runs a deep
post. The other wide receiver runs a

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medium crosser or a bang route or
strike route, whatever you want to call

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it. That medium route to a
J. Brown always caught over the middle

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of the field. All play action. So the way that imagine that play

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in your head and then think about
how defenses play the Titans. There's eight

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men in the box. Have you
got eight men in the box? That

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means you only have three men out
of the box, which means you're probably

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running a single high safety. You
got one safety deep, your other safety's

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down in the box. When you
do that, the Titans are going to

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run a deep post against it with
one of their wide receivers. And that

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intermediate route. Well, now that
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the middle of the field instead of
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I mean, lord, instead of
it being one of those guys, now

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it's DeAndre Hollis. If you're that
deep, if you're that deep safety,

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if you're that deep safety, are
you gonna come down? And we've seen

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Tannehill get picked like this a bunch
that deep safety says, I'm not even

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worried about who's going behind me.
I'm coming down hill to take away that

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medium route, that intermediate route over
the middle, and I'm picking off Ryan

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Tannehill, who's trying to drill it
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play act. All right, Well, when it's Nick Westbrook, a Kine

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or Robert Wood, it's running that
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Burks. I'm going downhill on the
short throw. I know Tannehill wants to

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make well. When you got Burks
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middle, now the safety has to
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And they're gonna hit the Hopkins over
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safety's gonna get a little impatient.
He's gonna take one step forward and then

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a six foot two monster is gonna
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the cornerback and take down the ball, just like trailing Burks did to who

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jaire Alexander one of the best cornerbacks
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Now he's in better shape. Now, he's slimmer, faster, more confident.

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He's coaching up Coltondow right now,
instead of like he kind of admitted

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last year, not really knowing the
plays a ton and having to ask people

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to give him information. You know, he's a totally different player now,

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totally different confidence comfortability level. So
I think that Burks has the chance to

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have better numbers than DeAndre Hopkins because
people are more worried about DeAndre Hopkins and

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Burkes's gonna catch all these deep passes
because safeties are going to be creeping on

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Hopkins. So there's nobody I mean, Tannehill, you could make the argument,

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but nobody benefited from the Hopkins staying
more than than Trailing Burks. If

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you go pass Ryan Tannehill for us, the fans, for the offense that

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we have to watch each week.
Yeah, yeah, I guess I'll put

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Burke's third when we take Yeah.
Absolutely, man, I truly think that

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tray Lin's gonna ball out this year. I thought he was gonna ball out

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anyway. But now that you take
the pressure off of being that number one

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guy that you have to be the
number one guy, you know, now

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you can be one A or one
B or whatever you want to call it,

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one and two however you want to
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I think he's gonna do so much
better now that he has somebody that can

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actually perform next to him. He
doesn't have to really worry about. Like

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you said, Nick Westbrook, a
Keene or Chris Moore or Kyle Phillips or

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whoever would have made that second spot
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that too. I mean, we
go through two or three games where we're

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burning people deep that are trying to
load the box on us. They're gonna

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have to put him more dvs to
be able to cover these guys, even

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Chig. I mean, Chig is
basically a huge receiver, so who can

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block. So, I mean,
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you're gonna have to put in somebody
who can cover him. So this is

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going to open up for Derek Henry
now and help the offensive line out too,

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because they're not going five on eight
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So as we get on into the
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it. He opens up the entire
offense and helps out Henry too, who

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takes off once again, some of
the workload off of him because he's I

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mean, it's only a matter of
time the guy's running back who's taking twenty

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thousand carries in his lifetime. So
well, and that's a really good point

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too, man. I mean,
you know, you look at Henry's yard

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per carry. It's went down over
the last couple of seasons. It's obvious

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because we can't pass the ball,
you know, and everybody can load up

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against Derrick Henry. So I mean, if we if we can prove that

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we can pass the ball efficiently and
not you know, have to rely on

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the run to win a game,
then it forces defenses to back off of

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Henry, which just opens up a
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Yeah. Yeah, it just makes
everybody on the offense more productive. Yea.

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Yeah, with the with the persons
and nel we have right now offense,

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I feel like Tim Kelly can he
can just open it up like he's

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almost like playing mad, Like we
got so much stuff we can do on

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offense, Hopkins. Hopkins made it
to where we can do so many different

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things, you know, and we
can cut out the bullcrap plays like the

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jet sweeps with Malik Willis and the
screen passes to tight ends who can't really

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run. Like that stuff is gone. Man, it's like Todd that stuff

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left with Tide downing. And that's
Tim Kelly. We need you to we

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need you to turn our passing game
unto a top level passing game. We

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got the receivers for it, We're
working on getting the offensive line, and

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we got the running back that can
you know, run the ball and actually

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put a fear on the defense that
we might run it now that we got

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at a real passing game. So
like, hey man, it's a lot

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of the sky is the limit for
our offense. I feel like we're definitely

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gonna be a threat. And Hopkins
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So so I'm hoping for no more
three tight end first and tens. That's

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that's my for this season. I
mean, don't put too much hope in

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that, Tim Kelly. I mean, I think we should all be excited.

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People kind of laughed when I wrote
this article back in like February or

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whatever. But Mike Rabel said,
after Tim Kelly was hired, the three

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things that Tim Kelly was most involved
in last year with the offense, and

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he said it was the red zone
offense, he said, it was early

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down passing, and then he worked
with the tight ends in individually. Well,

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the tight ends last year, Chicka
con Quo took a big step,

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you know what I mean, So
you gotta give him credit for that.

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Not only that, but early down
passing. I don't know if you guys

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have seen the stuff that Warren Sharpe
shared, but the Titans were one of

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the top fourteen most efficient teams passing
the ball on early downs last year.

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The Titans early down passing was good. The reason that Todd Downing was a

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fool is because he didn't pass it
enough. The Titans had like the second

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highest run rate on first down with
the like third least efficient rush offense.

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And they had like a top fourteen, top twelve passing efficiency offense on early

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downs but through it like the fourth
least. So they were just doing they

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were doing early down passing, well, they just wouldn't do it, and

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we don't know why. We'll never
know why, you know. But either

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way, Todd Downing's gar and hopefully
Tim Kelly continues what he was a big

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part of last year. And red
zone. I mean, I think at

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the top of my head the Titans
were top five red zone offense, maybe

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even number one. I knew that
they were number one. Yeah, they

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were number one in goal to ghost
situations on the one guardline. So like

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the Titans are great in the red
zone, which Tim Kelly was responsible for,

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they were great throwing the ball and
early down tim Kelly was responsible for

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Chicken Conquo took a big step.
He was involved in the tight end development.

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So I think based on what Tim
Kelly did last year, we should

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be excited about this offense because I
think it could be completely different and he's

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actually going to look to get the
ball too. I remember last year in

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a press conference, it was Mike
Rabel or top Downing, but one of

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them said, like, we're not
looking to like force a guy the ball.

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We want to run like smart plays
and stuff like that. And it's

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like every other offensive coach in the
league is like how do I get my

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best players the ball the most in
the best situations. And the Titans are

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like, we don't want to do
that. We just want to run our

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plays. And it's like, what
are we doing? So I'm hoping that

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Tim Kelly obviously doesn't do that,
and they've learned and based on some of

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the reports of the type of plays
they're running, the way they're getting guys

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the ball, it seems like Tim
Kelly understands that that is what he has

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to do. Right right, I'm
excited about Tim Kelly. I was excited

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about to hire. Everybody kind of
got upset in the fan base about the

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inside hire, and I was like, you guys are not looking at the

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stats. You're not looking at what
he did the last time he was an

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offensive coordinator. But you know whatever, It's okay. But I know we're

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getting close to your time. So
I want to ask you. I saw

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a post earlier on Twitter. Oh
we lost your audio. Oh I said

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we could do a little overtime.
M ain't going anywhere? All right?

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Cool? Well, look, I
wanted to ask you about the fans at

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camp. If I don't know,
if you watch my show, I'm sure

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you don't, but if there is. I've been kind of on a like

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a rant lately about the fans at
camp, and it's a thing for me

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because I used to be. I've
been a fan for a long time,

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so you know, Titans caravan,
all that stuff. I've been a part

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of all that because I live in
well, right outside of Knoxville. So

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any chance I get to go actually
be a part of the Titans, I

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do. I drive, and I
was happy to drive all the way to

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Knoxville like or Nashville like four times
a year. I think it was open

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to the public or whatever. You
could come in and and the last time

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I had a football guest on I
think last week. I asked him,

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Mike Patton, what the you know, what their deal was with that,

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and he's, well, they've been
building a lot of new facilities. They

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don't really have a lot of room. Where the stands were is kind of

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not there anymore. And I don't
know. I just I hate it that

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they've made this. Not only have
they made it to where you had to

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be a season ticket holder last year, but now they have this lottery for

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the season ticket holders just to get
into their practices. I don't know,

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I feel like it's disconnection from the
fans because I'm part of an AFC South

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network. They cover all the all
the shows in the AFC South and so

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um basically, like you know,
I get to see all the other shows

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and I see that the you know, the cults are are letting their They're

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letting their fans in, you know, just like a lot of other teams

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do. And I just don't understand
why the Titans. I mean, I

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know they're really strict about who can
and can't be in their facilities or around

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their facilities. I know the seven
on sevens, they don't you know,

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videotape that stuff, and they don't
ever allow even media to do stuff with

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that. I get all that,
but it just kills me as a fan.

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I feel like I'm disconnected from my
team. I wish my team made

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more of an effort to connect with
me. Again. Yeah, I think

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that's a fair complaint. And uh, you hinted at it, because I'm

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sure you know that I've been complaining
about it for years now. I don't

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understand the titans restrictive nature, how
they want to restrict access. They It's

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almost like they think they're restricting access
to other teams, but they're only hurting

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their own fans. I'm sorry,
but the Kansas City Chiefs allow all their

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fans. The Kansas City Chiefs allow
full taping of their practices. Eleven on

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eleven, seven on seven, Like
we hear about these old trailing Burke's caught

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a one handed pass in the back
of the endside, like Rabel threw his

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hands up and yelled touchdown. Will
Levis through three straight touchdown passes. We

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would see all of that. If
the Titans were like the Chiefs or the

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Bengals, or the Jets, or
the Buccaneers or you know, we could

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keep going. Most of the teams
in the NFL aren't as restrictive as the

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Titans. And when you see teams
like the Bengals, and you see teams

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like the Chiefs, and people can
say, oh, well, I got

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responses, oh Joe Burrow, Pat
Mahomes. You could show anybody anything and

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it won't matter stop it. These
teams have been this way for a long

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time. It's not like they just
got Pat Mahomes and they're like, you

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know what, we didn't show anybody
anything because we think it's going to hurt

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our chances to win. But now
we have Pat Mahomes and we're so good

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that we'll just let everybody see.
That's not the point. These teams do

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it and allow it because they want
their fans to experience it. They want

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their fans to feel connected to the
team at practice. And if the Titans

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are sitting in their offices right now
and saying, well, not letting our

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fans see it helps us win games
in the fall, like, it's just

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foolishness. It's absolute foolishness. It
doesn't matter, you know. And the

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same people who will come on and
say, oh, who cares if Will

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Levis throst three touchdowns and practice it's
just practice, blah blah blah, are

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the same people that come on my
post and say, oh, it's no

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big deal to me. I don't
need to see more of the Titans blah

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blah blah. It's like, how
can you have it both ways? Does

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it matter? Does it not matter? Don't you want to see it?

407
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.880
There is no argument from the fans
that makes any sense to argue that they

408
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.160
want to see less of their team. I want to see less highlights.

409
00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.559
I want to see less stuff football
is entered, amen, I want to

410
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.000
be entertained by this team. I
spend money on, spend my time on,

411
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:08.079
spend my energy on. I want
to be entertained. And if all

412
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:12.200
these other teams, it's like if
you and all your buddies, all of

413
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:18.000
their wives let them go play golf
once a week, and you're the only

414
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:21.920
one who doesn't get to go play
golf once a week, and you come

415
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.000
to me and say, actually,
I love my life my wife for she

416
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:26.640
doesn't let you golf. She just
wants me around so much. She loves

417
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.759
me more than your wives. It's
like nonsense to me, you know what

418
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.680
I mean? Like, that's how
I feel about the Titan's not showing stuff.

419
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.559
Like it's just like, are they
fooling themselves or do they just want

420
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.759
to make it less fun for us? I don't know. There is a

421
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.599
lot. I'm I'm with you in
that rant, and I appreciate you fighting

422
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:51.279
that fight. You can't because I
don't know. I get so much crazy

423
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.680
pushback from people who want to purposefully
want to see what it's like. The

424
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.440
people who go on your podcast in
the comments and say, oh, why

425
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.000
are you talking about that? Well, what do you mean? What do

426
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.160
you want to talk about? Do
you want there to be no podcast?

427
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.440
Do you not want to talk about
the types of period? Would you rather

428
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.079
focus on your work? You are
on your lunch break watching a YouTube channel

429
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:14.799
because any topic about the Titans is
still entertaining, and it's better than not

430
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:19.279
having conversation about the Titans. So
more Titans, more content, more podcasts,

431
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:23.079
more more. Why not be entertained? Why aren't you against more entertainment?

432
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:29.359
Yes, thank you, thank you. I'm always and that's and that's

433
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.519
really a thing though, like,
uh, fortunately my kids and my wife

434
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.359
they got to go to training camp
today, but uh, and they have

435
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.880
fun. But they said the titles
were real strict about cell phones, no

436
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:44.359
recording. They said they were kicking
people. They were kicking you out if

437
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:48.400
they cut you with your cell phones
and banning you. So like it's serious.

438
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.160
But I just don't understand it.
Why it wants to Well, they

439
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.440
think they're gonna score three extra points
against the Dolphins in week fifteen or whatever,

440
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.799
like come on, man, let
your fans, let's take a video

441
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:11.440
like doing it. Well, they're
not scheming for a specific team or something

442
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:14.599
like that. I understand if it
was like the week before preseason, all

443
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:15.759
right, I give you. You
know you don't want to see that,

444
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:21.200
that's fine, But when you're like
the first two, that's different. Different.

445
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.240
Now, yeah, no team does
that. No team is putting out

446
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.680
full practice of team drills during practice
for the season, you know, but

447
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:32.559
tons of teams and and all the
teams that win more than the Titans in

448
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:34.799
the last few years. I'll do
it. So don't tell me like it's

449
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.799
not like Joe Burrows losing a game
because somebody filmed in eleven on eleven Rep

450
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.200
in June or July. Like,
come on, man, just give your

451
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:47.160
give your fans more. We deserve
it, That's what I'm saying. And

452
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.920
like I was showing you every single
signature on that head, I got it

453
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.279
a training camp and I felt like, you know, you actually get to

454
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:56.559
talk to the players, you get
to meet them. I mean it human

455
00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.240
pictures them, you know what I
mean? YEA makes you feel like you're

456
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.519
you know more. I don't know, maybe I'm just a weird guy,

457
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.839
but I just feel like I'm more
connected to a person if I can actually

458
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:14.839
talk to them face to face,
then if they're yeah right. And the

459
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.119
more you see them, the more
videos you see players, the more interviews,

460
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.559
you see players, all that stuff
absolutely like it just brings the customer

461
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:27.400
to the product directly. And I
just I just want somebody from their public

462
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:33.319
relations department to just tell me why
they have stuck with this restricted policy on

463
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.799
media. And I can't speak as
much to like the local fans stuff and

464
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.160
everything like that, but at least
from like what they're allowed to put out

465
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.279
on social media and stuff. I
just want to what they're even if their

466
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.079
explanation is awful and they tell me
we think it's a competitive advantage. Even

467
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.799
if that's their answer, at least
admit it and say it publicly so we

468
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.759
can shame you, thank you,
thank you, yea, and say this

469
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.799
is why you know. Yeah,
I'm right there with y'all on that matter.

470
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.880
And the thing that really gets me
about it is we're constantly talked about

471
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.559
is one of the lower fan bases
in the NFL where to constantly talked about

472
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.480
is one of the worst social media
teams in the NFL, worst content,

473
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:17.960
and it's it's like what we're doing
is not working, so let's change something

474
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.880
up. And like you said that, if the Chiefs do it, it

475
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.960
can't be that bad. They're obviously
it's not hurting them. They're doing pretty

476
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.559
well. And the Bengals the Eagles. The Eagles beat reporters tweet out like,

477
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:35.920
uh. For example, they'd be
like Elijah Moulden lined up in the

478
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:40.359
nickel spot and rotated with Roger McCreery
three times during all full team periods.

479
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:45.359
They ran a hook zone three times, he ran a flat route three times.

480
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.519
But like the Eagles tell you exactly
what play they ran and where everybody's

481
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.640
at in full lineup descriptions. It's
like, well, no wonder they didn't

482
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.799
win the Super Bowl last year.
I guess it's because they show their training

483
00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.440
camp stuff too much, you know, like exactly what are we talk about

484
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.519
them? What are we doing?
But anyway, this is this is a

485
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:08.160
very uh first world problems pie in
the sky man yells at cloud things.

486
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.920
So I guess we could talk about
the actual team if you guys want.

487
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.559
Yeah, all right, So last, last, last actual team question I

488
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:22.359
got for you man, is the
the rotation between Monty Rice and Jack Uh.

489
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.839
Well, that was the most interesting
thing of the day in my opinion,

490
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.400
other than than the Will Levis thing
that kind of flew under the radar

491
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.759
too. Yeah, I agree,
look, I'm I'm a I'm a big

492
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.680
Bulldogs fan. If we're talking about
college ball, I know a lot of

493
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.880
my my my associates here in Knoxville
hate that. But oh well, um

494
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:46.400
so I really want to see Monty
Rice, you know, produced. I

495
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:52.759
want to see him produce. But
he just doesn't seem to be able to

496
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.319
produce in the passing game. He
doesn't seem to be able to to run

497
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.880
with receivers or even tight ends really
well, you know, he doesn't.

498
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:02.559
I don't know, he just doesn't
seem to get that aspect of it.

499
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.960
Really well. He's really good at
run defense, you know, he's quick

500
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.800
sideline to sideline, that kind of
guy. But even Rabel had an interview

501
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:15.719
where he was talking about how Gibbey
was just lengthy and just better at pass

502
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.679
pro you know, And I don't
know what what's your take on that.

503
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.000
Do you think that's something we might
actually see in the season as it goes

504
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:30.519
along or I mean, I personally, I'm not as high on money or

505
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.119
ice as a lot of people.
I think a lot of people kind of

506
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.960
viewed money as like linebacker one coming
in, He's gonna take that next step,

507
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.679
He's the next David Long, and
I just I don't know. I

508
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:46.079
think he's got ability. He is
speedy, especially he's faster than Gibbons.

509
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:53.400
That's Mike Rabel even admitted that today. But I just like the versatility that

510
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:57.760
Gibbons can provide. Like you said, I think Gibbons has the ability to

511
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.000
be better in coverage. I think
if you had to have one of them

512
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.599
matchup one on one with a tight
end, I would rather have Gibbons because

513
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:08.760
of that length and that understanding of
zone. I think Gibbons has a really

514
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:13.599
good understanding of like where to drop
to in coverage and that sort of we

515
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.079
think about like how fast you are, how you move making plays, blah

516
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.760
blah, but like no one where
to be, and like having a good

517
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.960
feel for like where to drop to. David Long was really good at that

518
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.360
last year when they would play action
fake, David Long take two steps up,

519
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:29.119
oops, and he would drop back
and he would know where to go.

520
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.000
I think Gibbons has is better at
that than Monnie Rice is right now.

521
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:36.559
But honestly, maybe a rep situation. Rice has missed some time.

522
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.639
And it's not just that he misses
time. It feels like he can't get

523
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:45.239
momentum going because his injuries like disrupt
patches of time. So I'm hoping that

524
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.280
that Monty Rice gets more reps.
But at the end of the day,

525
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:51.239
I don't see Monnie Rice is like, like, do you think Monty Rice,

526
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.239
will we ever be better than David
Long? Like than what we saw

527
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:58.880
from David Long last year? Like
when hell is this year? Is this

528
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.239
his third year? That's what I
thought. Yeah, I didn't say him

529
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:06.920
and Racy McMath were drafted in the
same year, right, YEA, yeah,

530
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:15.679
that's what I thought. So if
I and I obviously now I give

531
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:21.320
you that. Yeah, but we're
talking about progression right throughout, you know,

532
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.719
from rookie to now. I love
my bulldogs and everything, but I

533
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:29.159
have to say, you know,
there's not that much progression from the time

534
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.760
we drafted him to where he's at
right now. And yeah, it's kind

535
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.599
of the same with McMath. And
if I'm gonna be hard on McMath and

536
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.840
say, all right, it's time
to move on from him. We've given

537
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.280
him enough time, you know,
unless he does something just absolutely amazing and

538
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:45.920
training camp in preseason, we need
to let him go. Then I don't

539
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.840
think, Yeah, I try to
connect the dots and maybe with the rotation

540
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.480
and the stuff the Titans do,
it's it's out of line. But like,

541
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:57.280
if will Levis is the third team
quarterback and will Levis has thrown touchdown

542
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.199
passes to Racey McMath either, will
Levis got to play with the twos,

543
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:06.360
which Paul Kaharski reported today. Will
Levis did start rotating in with the second

544
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.000
team here and there, and him
and Willis were rotating, which was interesting

545
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:14.960
as well. But uh, like, if if will Levis is thrown touchdown

546
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:16.920
passes to Racey mcmatt, that means
Racey mcmtt is playing with the third team

547
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.599
offense, he's going into his third
season. I just don't think it's there,

548
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.079
you know what I mean. But
Monny has been better than Racey,

549
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.360
that's for sure. But I understand. I think that you keep Monty on

550
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.760
the team no matter what. It's
not like you'd go away from him after

551
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.119
this training camp. He's gonna be
on the team this year and next year.

552
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:37.079
Borrowing something crazy. But I guess
the question is, like, do

553
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.599
you guys really see Monty Rice developing
into somebody who you're gonna give a second

554
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:47.400
contract too? Yeah, you're probably
just gonna draft another linebacker after you in

555
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.320
next year's draft or the year after's
draft and have him replace Monnie Rice and

556
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:58.519
let Monty Rice go because like he's
just a replacement level linebacker in my opinion,

557
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.480
He's not anybody who's gonna be like
even an above average starter, like

558
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.079
you know we talked. If you
think about it, like all pro level,

559
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:12.360
pro bowl level, above average starter, average starter, below average player,

560
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.679
practice squad player, you know,
like Money Rice to me is just

561
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.519
like average. He could start for
you. He's like David Long. I

562
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:23.800
know, they're different. Like David
Long is a good linebacker. He can

563
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:29.679
make some good plays, crazy interceptions, good against the un but you're not

564
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:31.719
gonna pay him a ton of money
and keep him, like you're just gonna

565
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:37.159
get a different guy who's probably about
the same level. And like for every

566
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.679
every money Rice, there's an azz
out Shire And it's like I'm not paying

567
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:45.760
Money Rice six or seven million when
I could just pay a veteran who's just

568
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.000
about the same, maybe a couple
mill less. Like it's the same why

569
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.239
they let David Long go and then
replace him with his zes who's the same

570
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.679
price. It's just they're just an
average replacement level linebacker. And I don't

571
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.920
see Money or Ice ever being more
than that. So would I be shot

572
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:05.000
if Jack Gibbons, who could maybe
be a replacement level linebacker, could beat

573
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:09.239
him out because his skill set is
just a little more diverse. Believe that.

574
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:13.079
And that's just based on where I
always saw Monty Rice. I never

575
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.599
saw him as like a true linebacker
one. I never I've never even seen

576
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.719
Monty Rice as a guy who I
think is on David Long's level and how

577
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.920
I viewed him, So I don't
know. I guess I wasn't shocked to

578
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.320
hear that, but some people have
been higher on Monty Rice. Maybe are

579
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.000
shocked to hear that, but I
guess I wasn't. I've been I think

580
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.719
this is the year, though,
that we're gonna find out, well,

581
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.960
who's right and who's wrong on Monty
Rice. Really I do, because because

582
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.480
I mean this year three, like
we talk about year four is the contract

583
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:44.559
year. Everybody tries to ball out
in year four, but I feel like

584
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.199
year three is when you see who
a player really is. Yes, that's

585
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.920
we're about to see. So I'm
really excited, And like I told him

586
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:53.480
before the show started, I'm a
big Monty Rice fan. I know a

587
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:58.079
lot of his family from Alabama,
so like, I'm big on him,

588
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.719
I want him to do well.
I'm also, like I said, a

589
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:07.280
skeptical optimists, So I'm not really
I'm not too not too optimistic about it,

590
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:13.079
but I do hope, right,
Yeah, twenty two years of disappointment,

591
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:20.719
but uh, I got yeah,
go ahead, Tyler. I got

592
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:24.320
two questions. I got two questions. I want you before you leave and

593
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:30.199
Max Maximum bust out laughing on the
first one. How was your honest to

594
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:39.559
God feeling about Caleb Farley? Okay, your feeling on cable h Well,

595
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:44.519
I mean, there's two different opinions
that I have here. One is the

596
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:49.480
football opinion and one is the opinion
that I have on on just Caleb's situation.

597
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.239
The football opinion, brother, he's
done, Like I'm sorry, it's

598
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:58.960
a whole count. And this goes
into my second opinion. This goes into

599
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.920
my second opinion. But he switched
positions early in college, so it's not

600
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:07.480
like this guy's been playing cornerback for
a long time. He tours ACL in

601
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.760
college, barely gets an opportunity to
play cornerback, comes back as like one

602
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:15.880
good season, then back injury.
Then COVID happens too, and he misses

603
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:20.199
a bunch of time where he could
be playing because of injuries and COVID and

604
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:24.960
all that comes into the NFL first
two NFL seasons. Toward ACL second season,

605
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:31.119
reaggravates the back, So that's two
acls, two backs, a position

606
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:37.119
change, like limited reps, three
seasons off. Yeah. Yeah, there

607
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:42.679
is just no way that a developmental
guy. He was always a guy who

608
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.199
had a ton of athlete. He's
super tall, super fast, physical,

609
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.840
He's got all the athletic skill in
the world. But he just needs time

610
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.679
to develop. And unfortunately he's not
going to have time to develop, and

611
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.280
any time that he would have he's
been robbed of because his body is just

612
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.119
not built to be a professional athlete. I guess, you know, I

613
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:01.440
don't think that. Like when I
say that, people think it's a big

614
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:07.320
critique, Like most people's bodies are
not built to withstand professional sports. You

615
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:13.039
know, none of us are.
I could die out there, you know

616
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:17.480
what I mean, Like I would
literally die. So like I'm not criticizing

617
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.559
the dude, it's just the reality
that not everybody's body is built to withstand

618
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.639
it. So he got screwed from
an experienced standpoint. He got screwed from

619
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:29.280
a body standpoint. So I feel
bad saying it, but I just do

620
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:34.599
not see any path where he comes
back to be a relevant player for the

621
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.280
Titans at all. He's never going
to be close towards this draft selection.

622
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.239
They'll probably get one more opportunity after
this, because everybody gets a second chance

623
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.320
when you have talent. But I
just don't see it happening. What I

624
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:46.039
do want to say is, with
all that stuff that I just said happened

625
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:52.280
to him and his mom dies from
cancer, Like from a human perspective,

626
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.880
think about how hard the last like
four years have probably been. Plus you

627
00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:00.559
get on social media at all and
everybody's like dog and you, dude,

628
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:06.559
just absolutely do I host a podcast
and you know, I'm not really you

629
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.280
know, it's only the couple thousand
people or you know, the twenty thousand

630
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:13.880
people my ecosystem is. But some
days I'm not having a good day for

631
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.480
whatever reason, and then somebody says
something really mean to me. You know,

632
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:22.119
like even though I know, like
I'm good, like that mean in

633
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.000
Saul isn't real. You know,
like every day, like some days it

634
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:31.039
just sucks. So to like,
like you know, and to not have

635
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:36.360
your own mother like that's hard because
who's the nicest person to you ever in

636
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:38.800
your whole life? Most of the
time it's your mom. I know everybody's

637
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:44.360
situations different, maybe that's not always
the game, but generally your mother loves

638
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:45.840
you more than anybody else in the
whole world. That'll be tough on you,

639
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:51.760
But but mama, Mama always is
well. When he's going through the

640
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.800
hardest period of his entire life and
everyone is as mean to him as they've

641
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:59.239
ever been, the one person who
loves you most and who is nicest and

642
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:04.360
sweetest to you isn't there to give
you any balance. And that's why maybe

643
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.679
I should think about this morning.
We discussed players, but I get like

644
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.719
my hair stands up because I feel
so so bad for him, and I

645
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:14.480
know in my mind that there's just
no way he's ever gonna get back to

646
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:16.880
who he hoped he could be when
he was in the in the driveway on

647
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:21.840
the playground, hoping he could be
that NFL player. His body is never

648
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.079
gonna let him get close to that. And it's just, you know,

649
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:30.639
just a human to human man.
That's I don't care that he got a

650
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.760
couple million bucks. That's hard,
man, that's tough. That money's gonna

651
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.159
go and he's not gonna have his
mom or his dreams. You know.

652
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:46.159
Sucks. Yeah, damn. Second
question, do you finally think the injury

653
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:55.039
book is leaving us alone? Man? Don't talk. It's the second week

654
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.880
of training camp. No, don't
do this, Listen. I think there's

655
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:01.960
to be a level of injuries with
this team no matter what, because of

656
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.440
the way Rabel wants to play rabels, running these guys into the dirt in

657
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.800
June and OTAs and stuff. We're
building a callous you know, like that's

658
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.679
what he's doing. And then we're
gonna play a physical brand of football that

659
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:15.440
takes its toll on guys. So
I think the Titans are never gonna be

660
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.280
like one of the least injured teams
in the NFL. It's just not gonna

661
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:23.719
happen. But if they can just
be like fifteen to twenty instead of twenty,

662
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:28.079
instead of thirty two every year,
If they could just be like fifteen

663
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.119
to twenty in injuries, I think
they'll be fine. And yeah, I

664
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:32.760
think they can do that. I
think they can do that this year.

665
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.920
Please Lord. Yeah, Yeah,
all right, man. You know,

666
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:42.639
obviously I was the big, the
big fan girl here, so I wanted

667
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.079
to get most of you know,
on most of my questions, and I

668
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.119
did, And that's cool. Flame. You got a couple of questions in

669
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:52.159
there, Tyler. You have any
questions for Tyler before we wrap this up?

670
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:58.280
Wait, who you asking? I'd
have a question for you? Yeah,

671
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.679
I'm ready to feel it. Any
questions. But my biggest question was

672
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.360
about the linebacker situation. I'm really
uh And I actually had a question about

673
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.800
Caleb Farley as well. Um,
I saw where his agent was at practice

674
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:15.119
earlier today and was talking to Rabel
before the press conference, which I find

675
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:16.960
very odd. I don't know if
that's something that happens often. I don't

676
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:21.920
see that in the news very often, so seeing that was kind of weird,

677
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:23.639
and I didn't I didn't really like
that too much. But I don't

678
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:28.079
want to be that guy. I
just wanted to ask about it before I

679
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.960
really gave my opinion on it.
Well, that's fair, uh, but

680
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:34.320
yeah, that is a good question. Let me talk you off the ledge.

681
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:38.320
So while I know it's Caleb Farley's
agent and he's hurt and like he

682
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:42.840
like poked his head out of like
you know that kim Ka meme where she's

683
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.840
hiding behind a bush and she like
post her bed out just a little bit.

684
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.000
That's what I imagine Caleb Farley did
out of the door of the locker

685
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.159
room today. The way it was
recorded, it said Caleb Farley like snuck

686
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.599
out the side more of a locker
room like that. He just like you

687
00:46:54.639 --> 00:47:00.440
know what I mean. But I
think that there's there's a terror way to

688
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:06.079
view this, and that's like early
retirement. The Titans are releasing him like

689
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.519
some sort of big like negative thing, which if the Titans cut Farley it

690
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:13.239
would cost them two and a half
million dollars in salary cap space. It

691
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:16.960
would save them nothing. So it
doesn't really make sense unless they truly do

692
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:21.760
think like hey, this like it's
a medical retirement and they can get their

693
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.800
money back or something like that,
like on the cap. But unless it's

694
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:29.559
something like that, I think the
reality here is it's just a courtesy agent

695
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:34.079
visit. Like Drew Rosenhouse is Caleb
Farley's agent, and he's one of like

696
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.000
if you ask people like who's an
agent in the NFL, Drew Rosenhouse might

697
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:40.079
be the number one guy that people
actually know, and I think he's just

698
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.119
the type of guy. And I
think agents do this a lot. They

699
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:45.800
just visit their players throughout the summer. You know, they have a client

700
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:49.679
list, it's not like you know, so they'll go visit, especially a

701
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.440
guy like Rosenhouse with a lot of
clients. They'll probably just go visit as

702
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.440
guys and take a trip during the
summer and hit all the different training camps,

703
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:00.119
see all as different clients, talk
to their coaches, blah blah blah,

704
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.159
established connections. Everything's about relationships in
life and in business, you know.

705
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.519
So I think the truth of it
is, while it does feel weird,

706
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.159
I think the reality is it's probably
just like a courtesy agent visit regular

707
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.719
generic Hey, an agent's just stopping
by training camp to see his player and

708
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.280
check in and you know, keep
tabs on those relationships that he's built and

709
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.159
blah blah blah blah blah. I
think it's most likely something like that more

710
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.679
than it is like something crazy with
Farley is happening, but based on what's

711
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:30.079
happened with him in his career and
with him being on pup still and all

712
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:32.760
that, who knows if it is
something crazy but I guess if I had

713
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.000
gun to my head, I would
tell you it's probably just standard run of

714
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.679
the mill agent visit that happens during
training camp, because I think Rosenhouse has

715
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:44.159
come out to Titans training camp before, whether it be last year or the

716
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.280
year before, one of the years
that I've been covering the team, Rosenhouse

717
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.000
stopped out there before, and it
was similarly like so and so's agent was

718
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:52.239
here, blah blah blah blah blah, and people were like, what does

719
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.880
it mean? And I think they're
just stopping by. That's good to hear.

720
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.800
I'm glad. I'm glad I didn't
jump off the LEDs there before.

721
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:05.400
I has asked a question, and
I have a question, since you brought

722
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.360
that up to the Rosenhouse thing,
do you think that, like his history

723
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:14.880
with the Titans since since we've changed
pretty much everything about the team since all

724
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:20.360
that went down, do you think
that that our history with them is our

725
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:22.760
team with him? Is? Are
we cool? Do you think? Yeah?

726
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:27.639
I think everything's fine there. I
think you know, when a single

727
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:30.960
thing happens with a player and people
are always like, oh that agent.

728
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:35.199
You see it in basketball a lot. I'm a big Lakers fan and Aaron

729
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:39.440
Mintz from CIA represented Paul George for
a little while. I don't know if

730
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:43.559
he still does, but like the
Titans had some issue with one of his

731
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:45.920
clients and they're like, oh,
the Lakers will never get Paul George,

732
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:47.719
I said, the Titans, But
the Lakers will never get Paul George now

733
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:51.800
because their agent hates him. And
then like a year later, they signed

734
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:53.880
one of one of his players that
he has as a client. And it's

735
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:59.880
like, there, you can't have
those kind of beefs in pro sports because

736
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.079
eventually you're gonna want one of your
clients to go to a certain team.

737
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.360
One of your clients is gonna want
to go to a certain team this and

738
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.840
that, you're gonna your client's gonna
get traded to that team. And it's

739
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.920
just there's only thirty two teams.
Agents can't they can't be like, oh,

740
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.239
I'm never doing business with that team, or my relationship is terrible with

741
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.679
that team. I mean, we're
people, so we know dealing with somebody

742
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.639
you don't like, it's gonna happen. But I don't think they can afford

743
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.239
to just be like, I'm not
doing anything with that team. So I

744
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.320
wouldn't. I wouldn't make too much
of the Drew Rosenhouse thame from many angles.

745
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.599
Really don't think it's epic of deal. All right, anything anybody else

746
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.760
wants to bring up Before we wrap
it up, I just want to give

747
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:42.480
a shout out to Tyler Man.
I appreciate you coming on. You know,

748
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:45.079
I've been rocking with you for a
long time. Yes, dude,

749
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.440
Yeah, I remember. I used
to work thirst if a vandy man.

750
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.239
You got me through a lot of
nights. Man, dude, yeah,

751
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:58.880
I appreciate it, especially early on. You know, I always tell people

752
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.119
when I first started, I had
fifteen followers on my Twitter account. The

753
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:07.360
first check I ever got was like
ninety bucks, So, like you know,

754
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.760
it was small. And I definitely
do remember some of the people,

755
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.880
very very early on that would even
give me a shot and give me a

756
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.119
chance to listen. A funny story. I got added to a Titans group

757
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:22.199
chat one time, and uh it
was on Facebook. Don't add me to

758
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:28.800
these if you're listening right now.
People were headspace for group chats or anything

759
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:30.599
like. I have group chat with
my high school friends. That's all I

760
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:36.079
can afford to spend my energy on
nowadays. But uh, somebody added me

761
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.239
to like a random group chat based
on one of those Titans Facebook pages,

762
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:40.480
and it was a bunch of people
I didn't know. And one day they

763
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:45.239
like mentioned something about podcasts, and
like some dude went off about locked the

764
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.280
new Locked On Titans guy is such
a nasally annoying voice blah blah blah.

765
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.239
I was like, yeah, yeah, like they didn't even know that it

766
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.960
was like me, you know,
they were I was so early on.

767
00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.760
I was like, oh my god, I'm screwed, Like no one's ever

768
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.760
going like this show whatever. But
it turned out all right, So yeah,

769
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.920
I guess, uh, you know, at the end of the day,

770
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.599
we're all just fans, and I
appreciate anybody as willing to listen to

771
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.079
me for you know, a couple
episodes a week or two and a half

772
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:20.239
hours. I never lose sight of
I'm not so famous minus celebrity, not

773
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.000
so famous. I don't forget that
we're all We're all just the same,

774
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.159
just fans wanting to talk about our
team, you know, So I appreciate

775
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:31.119
it. We appreciate you man.
Um all right, so uh yeah,

776
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:35.159
well we'll see you later, man, if you want to go ahead and

777
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.519
just tell everybody where again where they
can find you at and then you can

778
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:42.840
jump off and I can do my
outro. Cool. Yeah. Locked on

779
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:47.360
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Friday, always free. Don't do pay

780
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:52.599
walls. Don't make people pay for
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781
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.519
your podcast free, make your articles
free, sell the advertising, do it,

782
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:59.440
do it right. People hate commercials, but it's better than paying for

783
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:05.320
the content. Uh and uh so
YouTube Locked on Titans YouTube and uh sports

784
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:09.760
Illustrated All Titans dot com really appreciate
any support there. We're in the infancy

785
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:15.000
stages of kind of building that up
and then uh TikTok Titans on Twitter.

786
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.599
You can tell me how bad my
takes are. How about my tweets are

787
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:22.760
everybody else? It's fun, especially
my Kyle Phillips article today. Everybody thinks

788
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:25.440
I'm wanted to focus on punt returner. So it's just a new day.

789
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:30.480
You can tell me I'm an idiot
tomorrow. All right, man, Well,

790
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:32.360
we appreciate you being on the show. Thank you so much for stopping

791
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:37.000
by. Um again, I appreciate
you guys, thanks for having me on.

792
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:42.920
Thank you, and you come on
again if you ever want to for

793
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.800
sure. Man. Absolutely, I
loved chopping it up. So I'll be

794
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:50.239
on again. Maybe sometime during the
season. We'll have a little, uh

795
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.920
a little recap here and get back
together the four Horsemen here the Titans Apocalypse.

796
00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:57.079
But uh, all right, guys, I will see you. Thank

797
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.840
you so much. Tighten up,
thank you, have a great night.

798
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:04.599
Yeah, all right, So that
was Tyler Rowland. Everybody, Um,

799
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.880
we are about to end the show. Thank you for tuning in. Um,

800
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:13.239
what's up, Jason? Just a
shout out? Um? But I

801
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:15.119
did. I felt I thought he
was gonna get off a lot. I

802
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:20.000
thought Tyler Rowland was gonna stop a
lot earlier than he did. I was.

803
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.000
I'm blessed that he stayed as long
as he did, so I'm really

804
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:27.239
happy about that. But I was
waiting until after he left it to let

805
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:32.360
y'all know that if you notice the
guy below me, Um, he's new,

806
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.960
he's brand now. Yeah, and
he's he's gonna be a part of

807
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:42.480
this podcast from now on. So
y'all should just get used. Yeah.

808
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.719
So Tyler Man, welcome to the
podcast. Brother. Thank Tyler. You

809
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:51.719
want to introduce yourself, Let let
people know what made you a Titans fan.

810
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:54.360
Oh Man, Well, I was
three years old and they had just

811
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moved to Nashville, just started being
the Titans actually instead of the Oilers,

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and I remember watching them on CBS
and I was like, hey, I

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like their colors. Ever since then, I've been disappointed every single year in

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my life. That's what made me
a Titans man. And I'm here because

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whenever we win the Super Bowl one
year of my lifetime, I'm never ever

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going to shut up about it ever, so waiting on that time. I

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never shut up about playoff victories.
Any moral victories I can take or I

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will take them. But I am
a huge Titans fan, love the Titans,

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been a Titans fan literally since they
moved to Nashville. So I'm here,

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I'm not going anywhere, and I'm
extremely excited to be able to come

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on here and not just to annoying
my work friends with my Titans takes anymore.

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So the guy they couldn't care less
about the Titans, and I'm gonna

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sit there and talk about them anyway. So I'm glad I get to come

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on here and actually have a some
of an audience that actually somewhat cares about

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what I have to say. So
I'm glad to be here. Man,

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tell them where they can find yet. I have a tightened underscore always twenty

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two on Twitter is the Ryan Stonehouse
Stan account one and only the original one.

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I was the Brett Kurrnstan account.
We show love to the specialist over

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here all the time. So follow
me on Twitter. I'm trying to put

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out new content all the time with
pictures and videos and things like that.

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Mike Tyler, rolling Ted, come
on there and tell me how stupid I

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am with all the takes that I
have, because I mean, we all

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have stupid takes. We're not always
right. So come on there, argue

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with me, love me. I
don't either way, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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show love back. So you just
find me on there. Let's let's talk.

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Man. I'm excited, beautiful,
all right, man, flame,

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tell them where they can find yet. Brother. Yeah, so you can

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find me a flame Douglas on Facebook
and now on Twitter, you can find

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me a flame underscore six one five. Let's come follow you, boy,

840
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:00.280
keep you updated on any tights news, and you know, keep on this

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show man with my boy Max am
I you co host Tyler? Yeah,

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man, and as usual, you
can find me everywhere on Maximus Underscore,

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00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:15.400
Tighten Underscore Fan that's at Twitter,
YouTube, Facebook or excuse me not YouTube,

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00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:20.800
TikTok Facebook. You can also find
me on the Titans Fan Battle podcast

845
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:25.559
on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter. Also, please like, subscribe,

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00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:34.480
Share Sharing is Caring. Thank you
for our show tonight and we will see

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00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:38.199
you guys next Monday night, same
battime, same bat channel. Enjoy it.

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Tighten up everybody. Tighten up,
y'all be pain lad and lady and la

