WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:30.480 Mm hm, thing on? No, what what is? Hello? Testing 2 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:36.159 on? What's working? Wow? One? Two? Check? Hollo hello 3 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:41.719 ho hello, go go on? Uh can you hear me? You think 4 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.640 you're almost there? Hi up? Can you hear me? Hi up? 5 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:49.240 Can you hear me? What? What? What? What do I say? 6 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:52.280 Here? What goes? Something goes? Here? Right? Hell? 7 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:56.240 Hell? It's all It's all drifting back as if full a dream. Hello, 8 00:00:56.799 --> 00:01:03.359 happy, Hello, Hello, it's what is today? It's the fifth 9 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:07.799 of January on a Tuesday, twenty sixteen. What's the giant bomb cast? 10 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.480 Year? Happy New Year? Hello, I'm Brad Shoemaker. Brad. Let's 11 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.239 go around the Hello Jason a striker. I am Jason. I wasn't going 12 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:17.760 to go around the table. But you're sitting right across from men. Yeah, 13 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:23.239 we're doing it and crosses now he's adjacent to me. Jeez, god, 14 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:27.680 Hello Da, it's the new Jason of twenty sixteen. Here impatient father, 15 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:33.920 Jason a striker. Yes, you strike me as a patient father. 16 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:38.000 Yeah, am I correcting that? You've been calm? You've always been very 17 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:40.840 calm. Yeah, in the years i've known you, even with you yeah, 18 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:42.959 yeah, I think with the baby, I think you would do very 19 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.319 well, yeah, I think so. Yeah, he seems to like me 20 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:49.439 just fine. He's got a very even temperament, like he'll just if he's 21 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:52.439 upset about something, he'll let us know and the most, you know, 22 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:55.519 like calm way possible. He hasn't He hasn't launched any formal complaints. No, 23 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:57.719 not as yet. Now he doesn't know how to write some contact hr. 24 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.920 I didn't let him know who HR smart? Was smart? Jeff Cursman 25 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:06.920 Dan record also here. Hello, I guess this is the part where we 26 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:15.080 talk about stuff. Sure holiday, Hey it's over, Yeah it is. 27 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:19.879 Fuck. It was going so well that I was getting really good at not 28 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.800 wearing outside clothes. Yeah. I do you not like really want to get 29 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:28.719 back to work after like a two week break? It depends in some ways. 30 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.560 Maybe in some ways definitely not I get to that boot because I've been 31 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.199 sick the entire break and so like I didn't really leave the house at all. 32 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:38.719 Yeah, and so but get that Cavin fever thing. That's a real 33 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:42.400 thing. I have not stepped outside today. I worked out in two weeks. 34 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:45.479 I just I could not wait to like get out and do things again 35 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.240 today. So you can sometimes I would have like a I would set a 36 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:51.800 rule for myself if I'm going to leave the house once per day, and 37 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.400 that didn't necessarily mean that I was going to put on outdoor clothes, drive 38 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:59.560 throughs or you know whatever. Yeah, you know, whatever nightmare I want 39 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.080 to inflict on myself at a given time. But you know, it was 40 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:04.919 like at least I was like getting in a car and driving a car and 41 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.319 like doing things that required thought. Yeah, this time, not so much 42 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:14.039 here and there. But there were definitely there were probably stretches of three days 43 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:15.960 where I didn't leave the house. It sounds good, that's about right. 44 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:19.599 I think the only time I really left outside of going home for Christmas was 45 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:21.560 like New Year's night. It's like, well, I gotta at least go 46 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.479 out and be among humans for a little bit. Went out, you know, 47 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:27.199 few drinks and stuff, but that's pretty much info. Yeah. Yeah, 48 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:29.680 we went out, like we went out of like eight o'clock or something 49 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:31.960 like a little bit, like I was having an appetizer and a you know, 50 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:36.719 hang out a little bit and let's get away from here before it becomes 51 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:39.039 a nightmare. Yeah, So I was going to I was gonna go out 52 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:43.479 with you, but then I realized oh, christ, my son is getting 53 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.080 his like two months shots today, so he's gonna feel terrible. And he 54 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.759 really did so because of just the pain of the injection, like all day 55 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:52.599 he's mad or how does that work? I mean you've heard of like, 56 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:53.400 you know, flu shots and stuff like that, you know, kind of 57 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:57.840 come down with the symptoms and stuff. So the slight little bit of the 58 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:00.439 thing, Yeah, it was a little and like you know, his legs 59 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.199 probably hurt. They were probably stiff and sore and stuff. So he was 60 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:04.680 he was not not too happy. Where is that where he gets him? 61 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:08.599 Yeah, and the legs, Yes, that doesn't seem fair. I know, 62 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:10.960 right, it's well, it's the fattiest part that in his or his 63 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:13.599 cheeks. I don't think that really works. I would that would suck. 64 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.959 You gotta find the maximum baby fat, Like they'll give shots into like your 65 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:20.800 face cheeks. No, No, what are you saying that they choose the 66 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:24.879 fattiest part of the baby. Right, So it's the legs, Yeah, 67 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.720 it's the legs, okay, or the cheeks are chubby as well. The 68 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:31.120 ron him saying, that's what you're saying. I were getting shots in my 69 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.759 butt when I was a little kid. That was the thing that happened a 70 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:38.040 lot. I got him on his heels when he was born heels. He's 71 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:40.600 got a lot of fat there. I don't know that's where they stuck stuff 72 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:44.720 in him. It's weird. Shit. Yeah, this is an unnerving conversation. 73 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:46.839 It's not what I signed up for when I came back in here today 74 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.160 at the first time in two weeks. I didn't make it out of the 75 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:53.720 house much. You got You've got a plausible excuse. We were sick. 76 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.279 Yeah, we kept passing around like disease germs to one another. So I 77 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:59.959 started it, and then Griffin and then Lisa, and then back and forth 78 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.199 them. It was terrible. So I had the same thing here my girlfriend 79 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:04.759 got sick. And then there was a point where, speaking of injections, 80 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:09.160 I all of a sudden had this weird little ball above my lip, Like 81 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:11.240 it wasn't visible. It felt like it was something like a pimple, Like 82 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:14.439 I kept squeezing it and nothing would come out, like nothing was on the 83 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.680 surface. Sure, but it felt like a little like like a hard peet, 84 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:20.000 like a little metal bb or something in my lip. Was it painful 85 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:25.600 that accidentally got injected into your face from the inside. I can't confirm or 86 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.040 deny this, but yeah, I went on Amazon Prime Now and ordered a 87 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:30.959 bunch of sewing needles and had them delivered in like an hour, and then 88 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:34.639 had my girlfriend take in my face and try to pop whatever was inside. 89 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:38.319 My lisp was just like hang out and just like take a bunch of bad 90 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:42.040 drugs. Like, do we need to get the sewing needles? I got 91 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.399 a great idea how to fix this. That's like the most messed out lance. 92 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.199 You got a lance of the things like halfway to taking a part of 93 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:50.519 clock radio because it's mocking you did you did you hold the needle in a 94 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:55.319 flame? First? Yeah? Sterilize it? We what do you want brand 95 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.519 new needles? So? Oh fuck? I didn think where I laid down, 96 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:00.199 So I took a sharpie and I because I could feel where it was, 97 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:03.000 so I took a sharpe and made a little dot, uh like I 98 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:06.000 had to go through like my mustache hair, and then I just laid on 99 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:09.160 the ground. And then I was all worried that she was since she was 100 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.279 gonna pierce through my skin that there was sharpie on it, and so I 101 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:15.199 was gonna get sharpie ink in my face. Like in the blood stream. 102 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:16.560 I didn't know if that was safe from probably, And so for like a 103 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.480 good hour it's just her jabbing at my face with a needle and then me 104 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:23.800 trying to jet like we went through the skin on the front part of my 105 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:26.480 face, and then from the ends she lifted my lip up and tried to 106 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:30.199 pierce it through like the fleshy underside. And this all sucked. This is 107 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:36.040 no good at Yeah, did you ever considered consulting medical personae. There's a 108 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:41.680 cope, you know you can do. It was like four dollars. We 109 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:44.720 also wanted to buy a clue, so we also got clue delivered in the 110 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:46.759 same one hour thing. All right, you just decide you want to play 111 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:48.839 clue, and then an hour later a dude shows up and gives a clue. 112 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:54.199 What Yeah, Amazon Prime Now sounds like scary. So I don't live 113 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.720 in a in a serviced city. Oh I thought that was the same day. 114 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:58.279 I didn't know it was within an hour. Oh, you can get 115 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:00.000 it within an hour. It's great. I use it all the time now. 116 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:01.920 I just order like like literally two hundred cans of soda because I don't 117 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:04.279 have a car, so it's hard to carry them all from Suway. Is 118 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:09.680 it an extra extra fee to get in within an hour? No? No, 119 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:14.040 it's a five dollar suggested tip. And if you're over, I think 120 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:15.680 like twenty dollars or something. I think it's all just kind of waved. 121 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:20.319 Man. Yeah, Cosmo dot Comsmo dot com back, we should order something 122 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.720 right now. You did, you could have a delivered by time we're done. 123 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:27.160 We could have it before the end of this podcast. That's scary. 124 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:31.240 That. Yeah. Every time I've sat down because because I'm here for work 125 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:34.160 and stuff, so every time I think like, oh man, I could 126 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.120 order something and have it right now, and then I go like, well, 127 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.879 what would I get? And that's like the dumbest way to shops, 128 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:43.680 Like what could I get right now? I don't actually need anything, but 129 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:47.319 what I just want to get something now? Uh, And and then I 130 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:50.399 uninstall the app from my phone. That's that's super handy, probably smart. 131 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:55.319 That way lies madness. You can. Brad talked me out of Impulse purchasing 132 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:58.040 one thousand dollars TV, but you had already bought it. I did already 133 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.319 buy it. I know. I came in super excited today. I was 134 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.720 like, oh man, I just got a great deal on a four KTV 135 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:07.240 ever the future. And then I talked to Brad four K TV as well. 136 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.360 What it was curved. Yeah, I don't care about curve, but 137 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:13.920 it was Dan to buy this stupid thing. I want him to fucking way 138 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:20.519 you you were helping me exactly. That's a great rating on display leg Come. 139 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.959 I'm like, this is great for getting Dan. Yeah, wait are 140 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.040 you saying that I made a mistake? And in talking him out of buying 141 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.319 that, Twitter also did a lot of people on Twitter were like, oh, 142 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.439 it's worth a thousand Curved is stupid and like yeah, I never wanted 143 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:33.600 the curve to begin with. And I was like, shit, I already 144 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:35.879 set a delivery for Friday morning. This fucking they're packaging this ki here is 145 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.720 here is what I think is the most appalling thing though about this whole process, 146 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.639 is that you bought another TV that's the same size as your currency. 147 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.080 Yeah, but it's four K. But then I learned you can't actually do 148 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.080 anything with for always buy a bigger TV. Always. I have a fifty 149 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.360 five inches, you don't need you can have a six get it. Yes, 150 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:54.159 I got a tiny living room. I don't need much. I can 151 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.120 go. But if it was bigger, it was the TV was just like 152 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.320 one of the walls in your living room. Okay, all right, now, 153 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.080 granted you there's not a lot of four K content out there, but 154 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:07.919 it will look a little bit better. Well, because that's the thing. 155 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.919 I'm fine with that. I've heard the opposite though. I really read there 156 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.519 maybe maybe this was a problem with like the first gen four KSE sets, 157 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.879 but I read that a lot of them are bad at scaling ten eighty signals. 158 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.360 I've seen some stuff, but yeah, like I said, maybe the 159 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.600 new runs are better. Is that like when you take a normal like DS 160 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.960 game and you blow it up onto the big like three DS's and then it 161 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.399 looks all like that that's not supposed to be this big? Is it like 162 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.159 that? Okay, it can be. Yeah, there's a little more magic 163 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.039 in the technology than that that tries to scoot it out. But sure, 164 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.639 yeah, sure version. I came into work today real excited about my new 165 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.440 TV, and then Brad and the Internet made me sad, and now I'm 166 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:45.759 not getting a new TV. Jeff chipped into. I almost bought, or 167 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:50.240 I didn't almost. By I started looking at wide monitors, it was like 168 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:52.559 twenty one by nine saw. I saw twenty one by nine at Will Smith's 169 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:54.960 house a few weeks ago, and I was like, huh, it's the 170 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.039 whole width of the desk because right now I'm using two monitors. And I 171 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.679 went in ahead and turn into my second one, uh, the other way 172 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.159 vertically, and that's been fun. Like I just keep like Twitter and Steam 173 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.559 open on that thing all the time. It yeah, or yes, I 174 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.799 could play Karrug on it all the time, hook up a Dreamcast and get 175 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:18.360 to work. But yeah, it's I don't need that second monitor that much. 176 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:22.320 And I my my main monitor is quite large, so I could really 177 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.639 I could fit everything in there. Yeah. The one time, the one 178 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.919 time I find the second monitor super useful is for streaming slash recording stuff locally, 179 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:31.960 like anything where you need to like see your preview window of like here's 180 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:35.840 how the streams going out, but not on the screen that the game is 181 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.759 running on right window or so I got my laptop there, I could do 182 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.879 that with that too. But it's yeah, that is that is nice. 183 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.399 Have you tried much gaming on that ultra wide monitor? Again? I did 184 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.840 not get one. I've heard some games are not super immediately like some games 185 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.039 are good at it, and some games games are confused. Give supp orders 186 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:58.600 and go sixteen by nine pretty pretty easily. But there's like some third party 187 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:03.360 tools will help you. I can figure that stuff. Check out White Screen 188 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:07.279 Gaming Form see what they've got to say. Check out an ultra watch screen 189 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:11.080 gaming. We got to rehack all our wide screen backs. They support twenty 190 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.720 one behind. That was the thing. When we all bought that wide screen 191 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.879 monitor at game Spot like ten years ago, nothing supported. My second monitor 192 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.360 is still yeah, I'm using. I've got two of those that I'm still 193 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.440 using. Whatever happened, Whatever happened to the Sony TV they sold where you 194 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.879 could play two players on the same screen if you're sitting in different parts of 195 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.039 the room. I've got one of those somewhere. Yeah, it's a piece 196 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:33.039 of garbage, But it wasn't even if you were sitting somewhere. It was 197 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:39.240 like you wore each of you yeah yeah, So one player would see one 198 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.080 thing and the other player woul see the other thing. So it was like 199 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.799 it was flickering between the two images and would filter out the bad image if 200 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.600 you were playing. Like many games actually supported that, like two Like some 201 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.919 racing games they demonstrate. It seemed like it seemed like they would only be 202 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.360 useful in like a dorm room or something. That was that was who they 203 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.399 were targeting because it was a really cheap ten ADP set. Yeah. So 204 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.759 it was a really cheap ten APTV the yeah, and that, you know, 205 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.480 and it looked like a giant PSP. Yeah. We we had won 206 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.000 a game Informer lasted a month, we did, yeah, we did, 207 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:11.120 but just died. I don't know what happened to that thing. I brought 208 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:15.080 it back into the office because someone needed a teach. Oh wait, do 209 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:16.799 you have that? Yes, that's right, I totally do have that thing. 210 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.320 Yeah, I needed it for Extra Life last year. Right, Yes, 211 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.679 that's right, it is. It is under some stuff in my home 212 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.679 office. I totally forgot I had that thing. You're right, I think 213 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:31.679 is really bad. Yeah, it's it's not a good TV. Uh. 214 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:35.879 I should bring that back in. Uh. Video games, Yes, now 215 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.519 you're talking. I managed to not really play any now you're talking for the 216 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:43.799 break hell. Yeah, anybody I tried to? Did you play some? 217 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.360 I mean I dabbled with some stuff here. I found out with Rusial Galaxy 218 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.480 a little bit. Oh that's oh god, right, that's the space trucking 219 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:52.600 game. Yeah. Yeah, you know it's got broadside lasers. You know, 220 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.759 it's like it's like the boat stuff in Black Flag, but in space 221 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.679 and also some Yeah. I didn't get too deep into it, but I 222 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:03.120 feel like Game of the Year discussions this year were a great jumping off point 223 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:07.279 for like, oh I need to play that and that and that, Like 224 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.360 everybody was bringing games to the table that like not many people had played. 225 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:13.600 Yeah. Yeah, and Rebel Gallaxy was like a big one of those where 226 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.200 they just kept getting behind that game. Yeah, and I didn't even know 227 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.360 what it was going into that thing. So yeah, I had looked at 228 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.480 it around the time it came out, and this looks like it might be 229 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:22.600 neat. Those guys should do something with it, and then that was the 230 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.039 last time I thought about it. Yeah, I don't know. I fooled 231 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.519 around that just a touch and it's got chops. It's it's cool looking. 232 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:33.440 Yeah I didn't I that's from you know, a couple hours of gameplay or 233 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.879 something. So I don't know for sure, but it seems neat. Gosh 234 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:43.639 what else I So I spent like the last few weeks just here and there 235 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:48.600 chipping away at the tutorials and Elite Dangerous. Okay, that came up too, 236 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:52.320 and I was also discussed during Game of the Year. I finished all 237 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.519 the tutorials and Elite Dangerous and then I was like, all right, I 238 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:01.039 know how to play Elite Dangerous. Let's get out into mother fucking space. 239 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:05.720 And then I started the game of Elite Dangerous. I have no idea what 240 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.279 the fuck do. It was like, there were some quests I could take, 241 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:11.159 but they were all like none of them made any sense or seemed like 242 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.240 I couldn't figure out where I needed to go. It was like, but 243 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:18.559 there are yeah, yeah, you started docked at a space station, so 244 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.720 you can look at a menu and go like, hey, take some jobs. 245 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:22.840 And I was like, fuck, yeah, I'm gonna take this job 246 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:30.759 to like go find this like like salvage cargo or something. And I don't 247 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.879 know. I took the mission and then I have no idea where the mission 248 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:37.559 is or where I needed to go or anything. And then I quit the 249 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:39.279 game. And then I opened it up two days later and said, hey, 250 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:45.360 you failed that mission. I'm like, oh, well, I guess 251 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.360 so, and so then I said, well, fuck it, let's go 252 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:52.960 into space and then I started flying. I'd said I was set a course 253 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.840 for something, and then I don't know. I couldn't figure out how to 254 00:14:54.840 --> 00:15:00.879 get there. And the tutorials have just made me t times is confused, 255 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:03.320 and I probably would have been other way. Are they straight up and adequate? 256 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.080 Is that? I guess? I guess, so I get and I 257 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.159 no, I guess. I don't know. Like I it taught me how 258 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.360 to land, it taught me how to take off. It's it's I shot 259 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:16.840 a bunch of shit or Xbox PC, but I'm using an Xbox controller. 260 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.080 But I have the option of the keyboard if I want to, you know, 261 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:24.960 get into some of the more you know, refined controls. I just 262 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.240 don't know. I don't know what. And that's very much in the vein 263 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.320 of the original Elite, Like it was very much like just fucking get out 264 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.679 there and do stuff, and that my understanding is that this is very much 265 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:39.480 that too. But there was just nothing to say like, hey, maybe 266 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.200 try this first, or hey, if you want to fight people, do 267 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.399 this, so that those quests were not adequate to like lead you to that. 268 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.679 It didn't. I didn't feel like they were leading me towards any like 269 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.600 particular. I don't know. I couldn't even figure out where the cargo stuff 270 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:54.600 was. It was just like, go find the cargo stuff and scan it, 271 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.720 or you're salvage it or do something. I think you could salvage it 272 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:04.279 have a cargo scoop that wasn't in the tutorial, but there I saw an 273 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.320 item. I saw an object you could activate that seemed to be I believe 274 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:12.679 it was called cargo scoop. Fucking I don't know. Many Maybe it's because 275 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:18.000 I'm playing Elite Dangerous Horizons, the like second season of content quote unquote. 276 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.639 It's like a separate entry on Steam. It's listed as early access. It's 277 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.360 a standalone thing, but I think it's also you can buy it as an 278 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:27.720 add on for the original Elite. I don't actually know. You think they 279 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:30.399 assume that you just know how to do yes, I mean it still has 280 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:34.000 all the tutorials in it, and so you know it's I don't think it's 281 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.240 supposed to be a separate game in terms of like, hey, you played 282 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:38.399 the other one. I think it's more like, hey, this is still 283 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:42.279 that same world. It's still all connected, but you have the Horizons content, 284 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:45.919 so you'll be able to land on planets and drive a little vehicle if 285 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:51.639 you could find a cool one to go to. Yeah, I don't sounds 286 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:56.639 like Muster or Hunter without space. Yeah sure, yeah, okay, there's 287 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.519 no online in that, right, It's all online. It is constantly online. 288 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.080 But I mean, like, you don't see players flying around you like 289 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:03.319 it's a new mothing. No, no, no, no, Well, 290 00:17:03.640 --> 00:17:06.599 so I think you will. I think you are. You are definitely on 291 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:08.920 a server, and I believe that you will see other human players from time 292 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.559 to time, but I don't think it's a widespread You play in private groups 293 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.960 as well. I want to say you'll eventually see other humans, but I 294 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:18.920 guess I can't say for sure. Well, no, thank you. Then 295 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.920 you don't want any other human concept. I'm getting into space to get away 296 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.119 from people. That's right. Space is big, man. Yeah, go 297 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.480 find your own area, find fund space system to hang out in. This 298 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.079 one's mine. So then I don't know. I me. So I had 299 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:37.599 a more satisfying time playing Star Raiders for the Atari eight. Does that game 300 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:41.160 have like a big grid in it? Yeah? Okay, my uncle had 301 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:42.519 that game and I kept trying. Did have a weird control or two? 302 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:45.920 So if you played a Dial six hundred. It came with a little keyboard 303 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.119 control. Okay, yes, I played it on the Atari home computer, 304 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.839 which had a keyboard because it was a computer, of course, and it 305 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:55.480 was a better version of the game. Uh, and it's you know. 306 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:57.880 I flew around and shot shit that looked like bootlegs High Fighters and had a 307 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.519 good time doing it. And then I was like seven, and I kept 308 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:03.000 playing that every time I went to my own Yeah. I had no idea 309 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:06.119 what was going on. Yeah, and I just remember a big white grid 310 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:07.839 and not much else. Yeah. If if I hadn't played a ton of 311 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.000 that game when I was a kid, going back and playing it now, 312 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:14.240 there was definitely like a feeling. He was like, I, all these 313 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:18.559 venues are fucking nonsense. But I figured it out. There's a Star Raiders 314 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.240 too. They're actually it's a couple of Star Raiders two's, but one of 315 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:27.519 them just got uncovered and released relatively recently. It was not commercially released. 316 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:30.519 It's been hanging out for the last thirty years. So they were making a 317 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:36.160 last Starfighter game at a Tari didn't come together or they lost the rights or 318 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:37.400 something, and the movie didn't do as well as they hoped, so they 319 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:40.599 said, well, fuck, that movie was perfect. I don't know at 320 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:42.920 the time. Did that movie not do well? I don't know, is 321 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.279 one of the I kind of want to know now. I don't know if 322 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:51.920 it did a buffo bo numbers or not, but number one with a bullet 323 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.440 over here in these parts. It's a good movie. Anyway. The game 324 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.079 was shit, and and they eventually released it the name Star Raiders too. 325 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.079 So wait, so that one did come out, Yeah, okay, and 326 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.160 it was a totally different game, and I did you know, I didn't 327 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:07.759 play it at the time. I was coming to it, you know, 328 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.880 a few years ago or something, going like, what the fuck is this 329 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:17.119 garbage? Right? Anyway, So I guess they released that to salvage this 330 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:21.799 last Starfighter game, ignoring the fact that someone had already spent a year making 331 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:25.480 a game called Star Raiders two and was actually like good and similar to the 332 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:29.039 first one. Yeah. Man, it's like shame like loading it up, 333 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:33.039 You're like, fuck, if this game had come out then it would be 334 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:37.039 a fucking mind blower. The original Star Raiders come out in fucking seventy nine, 335 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:42.480 so it's crazy. Anyway, So I messed around with that a tiny, 336 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:45.039 tiny bit. So wait, did this just come to light? This 337 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.640 just surface in the last like a few months. Yeah. The guy who 338 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:53.200 who coded the game reached out to some people in the kind of Atari community 339 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:57.960 as well as one Mike Micah and Frank Siffaldi, who then brought there crazy 340 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:02.319 big drives of let's figure out how to read these disks, and then they 341 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.200 read those discs. Good guess, talk to you if you got an unreleased 342 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.440 classic game that you want to be exactly there. Yeah. Yeah, so, 343 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.480 uh they got it together and got it out there, and it's uh, 344 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.519 it's fucking neat. So yeah, I don't know. Fun with that 345 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:22.160 a little bit. And then three times I loaded up Amplitude and then before 346 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.920 it finished getting out of the menus, I got interrupted and had to go 347 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.839 do something else. That's the extent of your ape. Yeah, that's the 348 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.640 extent of my Amplitude experience, through no fault of the game's own. It 349 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:34.279 was just like I would load it up, then fuck, I gotta I 350 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.519 gotta go do this thing, and then I'd have to like close it and 351 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.319 that came out and no, no, it's out, it's out. On 352 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:45.079 the fifth Yeah, it's out of this podcast today. There's not a lot 353 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:48.200 of fanfare about that. Well, I mean the way that wait, it's 354 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:51.759 up for backers. Yeah, kickstarter backers have it and then they sent codes 355 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:53.599 to press. Are such? Are people liking it? I have no idea. 356 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:57.440 Alex said it was. It was they made another one of those games. 357 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:00.880 Alex, they said in the production meeting this morning. Yes, he 358 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:04.039 he seemed fine with it, but not like also not jumping out of his 359 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:11.599 chair. I you know, for me, the lack of like licensed music, 360 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:14.559 I think really hurts that thing. It's a lot of the harmonics bands 361 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:21.240 was gone where there's like there's a Freese pop on there's they did, yes, 362 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:23.400 but at the same time, I you know, I mean, isn't 363 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:26.160 that But I say that having not heard most of the music, but but 364 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:30.200 having recognizable music was a big part of those games for me. And being 365 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.960 able to kind of remix songs I already knew in a way or hear the 366 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.880 different stems of those songs at least as you're kind of turning on the different 367 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.519 tracks. That was a really interesting part of that game for me. What 368 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.079 type of what type of stuff was in those games, Like there's like a 369 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:47.799 no doubt remix in there. You know, there's the there's yeah, a 370 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:52.519 handful of different styles of songs. So so not having that stuff in that 371 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:55.920 game kind of is a bummer. Yeah. Well, I mean, you 372 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:57.079 know, think back to when that game got funded, you know, like 373 00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:03.000 it barely got funded, Like no, it's totally had their hands full just 374 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:06.079 getting the game made, you know, yeah, no extra resources to get 375 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:10.119 classic music, right, but they got it done, yeah, and got 376 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.400 it out. Yeah, So congratulations, the kickstarter works. I guess. 377 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.640 I don't. I don't know. Yeah, this was is this hit for 378 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.640 that game? I wasn't. Isn't there some kind of promission air period where 379 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:19.440 this is like, hey, this is the first version and then we're going 380 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:22.519 to add some stuff order. Did I dream that up? I swear that 381 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.119 I saw there was like a two phase rollout for this. I think the 382 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:30.440 two phase rollout was backers get theirs early, okay, and now it's on 383 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:32.799 sale. I could have sworn they said they were going to latch. But 384 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.400 you know, originally that this game was supposed to come out last year. 385 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:37.759 Maybe that's maybe they maybe they had slightly different plant. At one point, 386 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:41.519 they ended up delaying it and putting the whole thing out. Uh, well, 387 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.200 is there anyone left to work on it? I don't know. I 388 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.480 don't know. The last the last person pushed the upload button and then turned 389 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:51.480 the lights out. The only people. I mean, you know, maybe 390 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:55.200 this says more about why it's like people are like, oh wait, the 391 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:56.960 Amplitude is coming out. But you know, the people that say, hey, 392 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:03.079 a game is coming out are the people that have been leaving. Yeah. 393 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:06.240 Yeah, there's still some people there in that role of course. But 394 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:11.279 anyway, Uh but I did play a ton of Super Mario Make Yeah, 395 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.359 every goddamn day. Yeah, they made like three levels. So how's the 396 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.039 how's the web based stuff? What surprisingly awesome? What did what day? 397 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:23.000 Did that stuff come out? Like that? Okay, it's great. Is 398 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.640 there anything new in the game or is it all on on the website? 399 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.240 They did. They added three items to the game, three objects that you 400 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.440 can put on like that ties into that web stuff sorting and whatnot sort of, 401 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:37.359 so you can So there's a bookmarks button or there's a search button in 402 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:41.799 the game now that actually bops out to the WEIU web browser and loads up 403 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:45.759 the website that page. Yeah, well that's I mean, honestly, that's 404 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:47.839 more than I thought they were going to do. Yeah, so I guess 405 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:49.440 that's something. It's weird that you have to kind of bop out to get 406 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:52.920 there, but it works fine and automatically logs you in, can kind of 407 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:56.519 manage you fine, Like it works like again, you know, again, 408 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:00.200 maybe faint praise, but that's kind of more than ext picture. I thought 409 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.160 you were gonna have to sit there with a laptop on your knee the whole 410 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.000 time. You're no, but what it's been really nice so there and then 411 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:10.519 also under the court and the courses section, there's a bookmarks button and when 412 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:15.640 you hit that, it returns every course you have bookmarked. And so what's 413 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:19.240 been nice is like, let's say you're on some forum thread. We've got 414 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:25.079 one on our forums. They're they're you know, there's a subreddit people out 415 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:27.160 there talking about Super Mario Maker levels. They can just post links to that 416 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:30.839 ship and you can just click that link, click bookmark and then move on 417 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:33.960 the need to post codes anymore. In fact, the code is actually in 418 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.599 the URL right and got it that way if you want. Yeah, yeah, 419 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.240 so it's been nice to like someone will say like, hey, I 420 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:41.640 just made this level. Check it out and they'll send it to me and 421 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.640 I'll go, oh shit, and I'll click on it and hit bookmark, 422 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.640 and then you know, later on that day or something, I'll go play 423 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:51.720 the stuff I bookmarked or something. It's well, it's it's also great because 424 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:53.559 like you know, when whenever I made a level, I always really wanted 425 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.759 to see, you know, the comments I wanted. I definitely wanted to 426 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.079 see the clear number and everything. Yeah, but you could see comments on 427 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.240 the me verse thing if you went to that website before, but you could 428 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.319 never see like the clear number or the percentage US. Now, you know, 429 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:08.079 I don't have to have my game pad. I can be at work 430 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.240 and just go to my like profile on Mario Maker bookmark or whatever, and 431 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.920 it tells you all those stats and everything. Yeah, you can't get all 432 00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:18.440 the stats for your levels right there, which is which is nice. The 433 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.559 one thing you can't do is you can't delete bookmarks from the game, which 434 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.039 you'd have to go out to the web browser and and do it there, 435 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:27.799 which is like, after I clear a level, I'm done with it, 436 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:30.960 you know. So it's like it'd be nice if there was just a button 437 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.000 right there. That's just okay, good go delete it. I don't need 438 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:40.880 this anymore. But I think the interesting thing though, is that it's seemingly 439 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:44.680 in conjunction with some of this stuff and the way that they're kind of tearing 440 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:45.880 the difficulty. And maybe it's just, you know, because the game has 441 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.400 been out a while or whatever, but like the levels you get served randomly 442 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:56.480 just keep getting like better, Like the Expert tier difficulty used to just feed 443 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.759 you ship there was just impossible, and you'll still run into that stuff here 444 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:04.920 and there. But I feel like I'm just getting more finishable levels in Expert, 445 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.559 like more cleverly designed stuff, Like you're just seeing stuff you hadn't thought 446 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.119 of it before, totally, Like yeah, I'm definitely like seeing stuff and 447 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.519 getting ideas and like oh shit, yeah, yeah, it's good to hear 448 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:18.839 people are sticking with it. Oh yeah, continuous, continuing to innovate. 449 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:23.400 Yeah. In the Mario levels, the Excite bike bike as costume, so 450 00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:27.920 they're still rolling out like they'll just add another row to the costume list and 451 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:33.680 then roll out levels that unlock those costumes obtainable by anyone or is any of 452 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.519 that stuff been held back behind, like I think the only back behind the 453 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:42.160 Amibo is the Giant Mario with Yeah, we both bought that, didn't we? 454 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.920 They sent me o. Yeah, that's I finally bought an Amibo thanks 455 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.039 to that though. Is that the one? Is that the one you tweeted 456 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:52.119 a photo of? Is that the big block? Yeah? Pixel dle life 457 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.039 like Pixel. Yeah, there's two of them. I bought the one with 458 00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:57.759 the modern colors, and then for Christmas, I just got a surprise gift 459 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:00.440 from my sisters, so I got the other ones. So I guess I 460 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.240 have two at Meibos. I thought about buying that thing just because it looked 461 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.359 cool to have, like a three D version of the Pixel Mario. If 462 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:10.200 that was just a neat object, even if it didn't do anything, but 463 00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.359 that would that would be and spending money on me, right exactly. I 464 00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:17.359 have not done that to maintain my ideological purity over here, keep keep it 465 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.160 clean. I keep looking at them though now, and they're not that expensive. 466 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.559 They're not like Rega Man. It was the pac Man for me, 467 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.759 but I have I have not caved, and I have not spent money on 468 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.359 in Ambo. I'm surprised you want that pac Man though, because the pac 469 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.279 Man in the game is just that weird like pac Man Adventures one or whatever. 470 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.480 It's not like classic Pat pac Man. If you run it's original. 471 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.640 Oh, at full sprint, it turns into original. Okay, how far 472 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.720 afield are they of Nintendo characters at this point? So, I's pac Man 473 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:47.519 like Shovel Night, Mega Man, you said, Regaman Shovel Night Okay, 474 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.160 okay, which is a really crazy thing to be in that game? Yeah? 475 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.559 And is Bannetic gonna get one? Yeah? I assume you would get 476 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.240 one at some point? Yeah, I think so. I think that is 477 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.160 that official? I forget Yeah, I watched a little bit of that most 478 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.519 recent and then what you would expect that at some point Cloud would be in 479 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:06.119 Supermarket. I was gonna say, it's almost it's almost just like a mirror 480 00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:10.640 of the Smash Brothers, like Guest Roster, right, Yes, because that's 481 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.359 the only those are the only Guest amibos they've made so far. I've been 482 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:17.359 characters that are non Nintendo amibos, have have been ones that have appeared in 483 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:22.039 Smash except for Shovel Night, Right. I guess it's it's nice and a 484 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.240 weird way, even though it's like relatively minor thing, it's it's nice and 485 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.640 a weird way to have a game that works that seems to work with every 486 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.880 amibo. I can't say that for certain, but it seems like at least 487 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.480 that that's their goal. So I don't know, that's kind of cool. 488 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.400 But you can unlock all that stuff I play in the game, but like 489 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.599 some of the required I mean, you know, you have to play sixteen 490 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:48.319 Expert levels and finish them with a hundred lives kind of over and over again 491 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.640 to unlock some of those, because you get one costume per Clear, and 492 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:56.480 it's like Sonic only shows up on Expert. Yeah, I'm trying to get 493 00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:57.680 all of it only shows up on Expert, you know. So it's like, 494 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:00.039 didn't you say at some point it'll say, hey, you can't get 495 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.400 anymore from Easy. Does that take a while, Because like, I've gotten 496 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.000 a ton cleared Easy eighteen twenty times more than that, wells, But also 497 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.119 I cleared Normal a bunch too, and you can some of them unlock either 498 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.559 from Easy or Normal, So I probably unlocked some of the Easies by playing 499 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.759 Normal. Okay, So at this point, I think I've cleared Easy twenties 500 00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:22.400 times of cleared Normal thirty or forty and cleared expert once. So you made 501 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.400 a bunch of levels over the break. I played most of them. They're 502 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:30.039 they're real hard. Yeah, well yeah, I've been making them easier. 503 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.160 But you did some of that piece Witch stuff. Yeah, you've been talking 504 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.799 about it mostly just making. When you sit down this game at this point, 505 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.559 it's i'll bust out a level in like thirty five or something like that, 506 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:42.519 or a couple hours. Do you start blank or do you go in 507 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:48.319 with I'll start with one idea like that. The last level I made, 508 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.079 I was watching you stream yourself making a level, which this thing fucking eat 509 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.880 its own tail. I was watching you make a level, and something that 510 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.559 I saw while you were making the level there was not even a key part 511 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:02.440 of your level. I was like, oh shit. And then I immediately 512 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:03.759 went and made the thing to test to see if it would work the way 513 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.319 I thought it would and be like, oh, that that's a really fucked 514 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:08.279 up, weird thing to do. I'm gonna make a level around that. 515 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.200 And then that's some of the most fun stuff in that game, where it's 516 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.599 like, I think we were talking about the exact same thing that the peace 517 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.119 Witch thing. Yeah, and then I came to a realization when it like 518 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.359 accidentally landed on a buzzy beetle and then it's like, oh shit, there's 519 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:22.759 a whole thing you can do with that, Like, yeah, this is 520 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.160 it's a good game. It's a versatility of that thing. I need to 521 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.400 place more of that. It's uh yeah, it's sounds sounds like it has 522 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:36.319 gotten better. It definitely better. It definitely like and and basically the ways 523 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.720 that I wished it was better to begin with totally. Yeah, it's stuff 524 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.680 that you know, at launch was just super weird and you know, they 525 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.960 still have the stuff in there where it takes you time to unlock all the 526 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:49.079 objects, which is you know, it's well, yeah, that's not exactly. 527 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.160 That was not for a reason that that was not for a deal breaker 528 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.119 for me. It's not great, but it's it's not the worst thing in 529 00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.279 the world. But yeah, it improven the sorting tools and stuff is is 530 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.680 the thing that makes that thing work essentially, because if you can just click 531 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.640 this button to open the website and click a bookmark thing and then not think 532 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.480 about it right until you play the game next. I mean again, just 533 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.440 being able to do it on the console is like a huge thing. Yeah, 534 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.400 for sure, there's a lot of neat stuff out there. I mean 535 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.559 it's like, you know, for all the fucking talk we've been doing, 536 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.519 I'm making like, oh, this level is so hard. Like there are 537 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.759 people doing things that are just impost like you know, just they're like, 538 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:27.799 would you just say there are levels out there harder than what you guys have 539 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:34.759 doing. I want the vowels airspace. Yeah. Yeah YouTube that I mouth 540 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:42.200 opened. Watch it's people doing shit where they're like they're throwing buzzy beetle shells 541 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:48.319 at trampolines that are on the wall and then jumping out. It has to 542 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.240 it has to hit off the trampoline and then you on the rebound to get 543 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.039 where you need to go and do it and and it's like that, but 544 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.319 it doesn't stop. So it's this constant time pressure to it's like this like 545 00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.680 you know, two minute thing of just constant execution and if you fuck it 546 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.119 up once you're done. And I don't want to play those levels. I 547 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:07.359 don't want to make those levels, but you look at them, you're like, 548 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:12.799 fuck, that's awesome, man, I'm getting out of the super hard 549 00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.200 level game. I'm gonna make nice levels from that one. Yeah. I 550 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.480 mean my first one with the checkpoint, the break just casual and yeah, 551 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.799 there's a nice stroll in the park list freeze things a lot better make checkpoints, 552 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:24.319 you know, checkpoints are a nice quality of life feature. Yeah, 553 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:30.200 yeah, it's uh yeah, I really want to see what they're gonna do 554 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.000 with that game from here, like how far they take it. You know, 555 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:39.519 they supported Platoon for a pretty long time this release with a lot of 556 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.319 free stuff, and you know, they've they've patched this game a handful of 557 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:47.039 times, and sometimes it's insignificant. Sometimes it's just more costumes. But sometimes 558 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:51.759 it's like, hey, here's three objects that didn't exist in previous Mario go 559 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:53.599 nuts. Yeah, and like now they've kind of crossed that boundary of like 560 00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:57.599 hey, what if the clown car shot fire? It's like, well, 561 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.680 fucking why stop there? Like you know, yeah, it's the it's the 562 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:07.480 thing where I want. It's it's the thing I like got up to in 563 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:13.359 Minecraft and got scared and stopped playing Minecraft. Is the logic aspect of things. 564 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:17.799 I wish that this game would get into build a functional computer totally, 565 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.079 uh like or or like you know, you know, hey, you can 566 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.599 make these walls disappear if you do this, you know, like like being 567 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:30.759 able to open a door or affect a level in a logic based way, 568 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:32.079 and they're like, you know, hey, you can turn on the conveyor 569 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:37.079 belts by hitting this switch like stuff like that. I mean you can't do 570 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.160 that. Peace would just stop the conveyor belt, but they stop the I 571 00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:43.599 mean like hit a switch in a level to turn everything on, and then 572 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.880 then then now these things are powered, you know, like like those sorts 573 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.359 of ideas. I also want the disco ball that unless you have dark levels 574 00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:54.200 from Super Mario World that's not in there, that the angry son. No, 575 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.359 Yes, I want keys, I want keys. I want secret exits. 576 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:00.240 Secret exits would be cool. I mean, you know, I'll go 577 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:01.920 back to the thing I said it during Game of the Year, which is 578 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:06.000 I wish they have like worlds, you know, whish you could package up 579 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.599 a bunch of levels. I wish you could make your own world map, 580 00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:12.039 even to go from a level to level. Like I mean, I think 581 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.559 you're probably the one that said, like you should be able to just fremake 582 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.000 Super Mario World in this game, right, like that that's the ultimate endgame. 583 00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:22.679 Yeah, I think that would be fucking crazy and awesome, and also 584 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.039 like I think that the majority of the people playing the game wouldn't know what 585 00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.719 to do with those tools. Yeah, so it's one of those things where 586 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:30.320 it's like, yeah, you could go that far, but they probably don't 587 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:34.079 need to go quite that far. I wonder if they'll ever make it too, 588 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.119 Like can you iterate on this beyond like like retching some some items into 589 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.760 it. I think that there's there's I think a sequel does do what we're 590 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.159 talking about, right, Yeah, I guess, I guess what's not iterate? 591 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.760 But justify can could you actually justify a package? I think Maria Maker 592 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:51.800 sequel. I think a lot of that depends on if the NX runs we 593 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.360 use software, which I think it's safe to assume that it does in some 594 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.280 form. But are you just talking about like a change of platform, because 595 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.920 then I don't see what's like what would be justified about calling that too just 596 00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:06.000 by something that would be on another platform? Okay, Okay, yeah, 597 00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:08.559 that's you know, I think that that's a that's a big part of it. 598 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:12.800 Yeah, I don't know, it's water jet pack, no, no 599 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.199 work. I would just like, you know, they you know, they've 600 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.599 they've already burned through all of the tile sets, for instance, So what 601 00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:25.000 if they did Super Mario Land the game board weird so that there's one of 602 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:30.519 the costumes they have yet to unlock is Mario in the byplane from Super Mario 603 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.000 Land. He won't be able to fly, but it's just so they've introduced 604 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.119 that music and some of the kind of stuff into the game with that costume. 605 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.840 And I think that would be a cool thing. Like there's some enemies 606 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.119 in that game that didn't appear anywhere else or didn't appear in in other Mario 607 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.559 platformers, so you'd get some new objects that way. I'd be into it 608 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.840 if they just let you use that monica and look top to bottom. Yeah, 609 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.119 I think that'd be awesome. I think some way to do boss fights 610 00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.280 that isn't just a thing in a clown car, you know, because there's 611 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.880 no real boss thing is like like logic like tie this door unlocking when this 612 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.400 enemy dies, you know, like like those sorts of things like that would 613 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.800 be the leap. I think that would be the next big step. And 614 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:15.480 so that's actually there's a there's someone out there trying to make an an unofficial 615 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:21.239 Super Mario Maker project on the PC that is doing some of that stuff. 616 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:23.760 Oh, I saw that. I saw that. How long now that that's 617 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:25.760 in the light of day, how long does that have? Less so that 618 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.639 the person making it has taken it out of the light of day as quickly 619 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.480 as possible and seems to be continuing. The statement seems to be like, 620 00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.199 I'm gonna keep working on this, but I'm not going to talk about it 621 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.239 a lot. So it's like two years from now, it's just going to 622 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:43.280 appear. I don't know. Yeah, but it's that that game has stuff 623 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:47.079 from like Super Mario Deluxe and like modes that you know appeared in obscure versions 624 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:53.480 of the game and as the Game Boy Color version, and so you know 625 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.719 that has stuff like hey, there are five red coins and when you collect 626 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.639 them, it makes this These red blocks disappeared like in that thing. And 627 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.639 if you think it's one of those things, you know, this is ridiculous. 628 00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.320 But if you think about Super Mario Maker as a response to the kind 629 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:14.280 of gray area ram hack scene and how that kind of blew up on YouTube 630 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:19.719 and became much more visible than a rom hack normally would a response to this 631 00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.840 thing, if you if you take this thing is like like, let's say 632 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.519 this is like the Street Fighter two Rainbow addition of Super Mario maker that this 633 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.920 this person's making off in a corner somewhere. Imagine if Nintendo came back over 634 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.480 the top and said, oh yeah, oh that stuff, Okay, we'll 635 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.719 take all that and then some like here's Champion addition, here's this, and 636 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.760 you know, I'd love to see them continue to get weird with this thing 637 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.400 and and continue to take it places, because it seems like that they've they've 638 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.320 showed a playfulness with this thing that they normally don't. You know. It's 639 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.159 like you think about Mario's being this very staid like, hey, this is 640 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:53.679 what Mario is. Fuck you. Yeah, you know occasionally they give m 641 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.960 a water jet pack, and you know there's like there's the you know, 642 00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:59.519 occasional offshoot here and there. He's in a zillion sports games, So I 643 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.559 mean, like games do you think of as like the cord to the Mario 644 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.159 cannon or whatever, like Marley does what Mario does, Skinny Mario was that 645 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:08.079 for me? Yeah? As soon as I saw that, I was like, 646 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:12.280 man, nothing is sacred anymore. It's like, but you play these 647 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.079 Mario levels as the we balance board, right all right, tile right? 648 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:21.719 Yeah, and you know, and hey, let's put in this big bouncy 649 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.239 donut thing. Let's put in you know, pie switch doors and weird shit 650 00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.360 that you know, like that they came up with after the fact. And 651 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:31.840 you know, if they're willing to introduce new things to that game that haven't 652 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:36.840 really existed in that form in any of the other Mario games, then they're 653 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:37.760 kind of just saying, like, fuck it, let's come up with some 654 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.360 stuff. And I would love to see them come up with, like, 655 00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:45.239 hey, here's like twenty more pieces that didn't exist in the old games, 656 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.199 but they're gonna let you do weird shit to your levels now that you've kind 657 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:51.920 of mastered this tool set. I'd like to see something like in Mario World, 658 00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.519 they had those huge the colored piece switches in the over World. It's 659 00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.559 like, okay, you hit the blue one now in all those levels permanently 660 00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.679 and switch pals. You've got all these yeah blue things, or even just 661 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.400 within a single level. Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, just like 662 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.239 here's a bunch of outlined blue blocks, go fill them in somewhere so you 663 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.360 gotta get a stomp on this thing. Yeah, I think they get much 664 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.360 milogy out of using those, uh, taking those tile sets from Super Mario 665 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.119 All Stars, like the the gussied up like the sixteen be versions of those 666 00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:19.639 original Like is that really worth it? Like I'm just trying to think of 667 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.239 other visuals, right, because like I think it would be cool for that 668 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.280 stuff to be in there. Yeah, but what about like a Mario two 669 00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:28.280 tiles set to where it looks like Mario. That's that's the dream, Like 670 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.880 that that would be my ultimate dream. But I just it seems like they're 671 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:32.679 they're just different games, right, They're just they're just trying their best to 672 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.639 pretend that doesn't fit in. But but I think it's like that's the thing 673 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:38.199 though, is is it kind of doesn't like, you know, anythink about 674 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.280 mechanics of of that game. It's actually one of the event courses. So 675 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.519 you can unlock Birdo as a costume, and they remade the first level of 676 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.960 Super Mario two man in Super Mario one and you can even do the like 677 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.039 jump over, you know, the shortcut thing is in there, and you 678 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.639 know they replaced the like the ninjis with like other bouncing you know, it's 679 00:39:55.639 --> 00:40:00.880 like they've they've found ways to like recall that level, yeah, which is 680 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:06.199 which is kind of cool, but you know, it's it's it'd be the 681 00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.639 mechanics of that thing are so different when you know, with picking up vegetables 682 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:12.559 and throwing them at things. It's just the movement and all that other stuff 683 00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.440 that, like Mario two is a weird fit you could shove. You could 684 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:21.119 shove the traditional mechanics into this. Yeah, I think I think they I 685 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.239 think it would be awesome, But I think that's it's it's a larger undertaking 686 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.199 that I think that would be the sort of thing you would do in a 687 00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.760 sequel, because now it's like, oh, now we have vegetable based gameplay, 688 00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.239 which is exactly how I would bullet point it on the cell sheet for 689 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.800 the second game. Vegetable based gameplay. Okay, and then how about like 690 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.840 world map vegetable based gameplay? All right? Custom music? How about this 691 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:45.320 not a super Mario Maker two super Mario two maker? Yeah? All right, 692 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:47.679 okay, yeah, I can sign me up. Make it so I 693 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.679 kill a boss with its own eggs, and then a weird falcon head opens 694 00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:53.280 up, but then sometimes the falcon head attacks you. Yeah, and then 695 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.519 you play a slot machine I want to shake. I want to pick up 696 00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:59.719 the falcon head and shake it to make an angry falcon head will attack me, 697 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.719 and then it's awesome. It is it really, it's a really good 698 00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.800 game. I want a boss fight. Word there's an organ playing and shooting 699 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.800 vegetables out of it. Now make the bag. I eat vegetables until he 700 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:13.840 dies. Hey, that gives awesome. Did you go back in your own 701 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.840 levels? No, I'm just curious. No. Once I get him uploaded, 702 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.639 I never want to see those again. That's why if I have to 703 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.280 re upload them, it's just the worst thing in the way. Mine are 704 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.960 not crazy like his are, but all occasionally, especially if like if I 705 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:28.719 haven't made a level in a little while, I'll be like, okay, 706 00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:30.800 what have I done? Like what you know? Okay, kind of go 707 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:35.760 back through a little bit. Yeah. I love just being done and never 708 00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.000 going back. Although I went back to some of my earlier ones before I 709 00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:39.440 got I turned into a total maniac with him, and it's like, okay, 710 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:42.599 yeah, I remember this, that's fine, Like my first level, 711 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:46.360 God, this is so quaint. Yeah, times I think things were so 712 00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:50.760 much simpler then. Yeah, this is the age of innocence. It's true. 713 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.039 Uh Dan play anything that wasn't Maria Maker. Yeah, I dabbled with 714 00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.880 a bunch of stuff real quick. I played levers in the danger space to 715 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:01.400 go up there. It's fun, it's cool. Yeah, I want to 716 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.320 try that. What do you do in that game? You fly ships? 717 00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:07.840 People? You have like a ship stab a guy, no stabbing. You're 718 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:12.320 in space. Okay, you have to collect bunny rabbits and space to unlock. 719 00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.000 Like a portal turns into a heart and you go to the next stage. 720 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:16.880 But like I was playing co up with my girlfriend, and so you 721 00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:20.360 got the ship with a bunch of different nodes and like, okay, this 722 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:22.639 one controls the shield, this one, you know, there are four different 723 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:24.360 turrets that you can power up. One of them's the engine. So like 724 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.800 I'll be like, hey, Bianca, you get on the engine. You 725 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:29.920 know, I'll handle the shields, and then if it gets to a combat 726 00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.840 situation, she'll run to a turret or something and I'll man the shields. 727 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.639 You know. Like it's lots of running around and like oay, go up 728 00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:37.239 the ladder now, you know, let's get out of here. Let's you 729 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.280 know, let's put this gym into this turret. To make it stronger and 730 00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.840 just kind of look at the map and figure out where you can find these 731 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:46.760 bunnies to get out of the level and risk verse rewards stuff like if you 732 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:51.079 get more bunnies or more gems, you can level up your ship more and 733 00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:53.920 that helps you in your overall run. But yeah, it's kind of fun. 734 00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:55.760 We didn't play a whole lot of it, played a few levels, 735 00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:59.639 and it seemed pretty cool from one I keep hearing about the multiplayer aspects. 736 00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:02.800 Is there any single player components or handled I looked back at some old reviews 737 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.559 just to see how it was received, and people said the AI was pretty 738 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.599 good. So when you're playing solo, it's it's it's pretty good from what 739 00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:10.639 I've heard. But I just played co op, so that was fun. 740 00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:14.239 It's only go up to two players. Yes, as far as I could 741 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:15.440 tell, it was just two people, and uh yeah, I had a 742 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.400 fun time with that. Mario Maker obviously we already talked about that. Kept 743 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.199 playing some Steam World. Yes, I actually yes, that is the one 744 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.320 thing I probably in terms of new games, not that there are a lot, 745 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.679 that's the one thing I put a bunch of time into. Good game 746 00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:30.800 it. Man, that's a really good game. Yeah, it's fun. 747 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.440 Yeah, it's it's ExCom fun. Yeah, like it's it's turn based strategy, 748 00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:36.760 but like super easy to get into with aiming and stuff. Yeah, 749 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.159 there's also Yeah, there's a skill component to it as opposed to just like, 750 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.880 hey, you've got a sixty sixty percent chance to hit this guy like 751 00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:46.079 Worms, but X calm kinda yeah, yeah, sure, like banking shots 752 00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.480 and stuff like that, shots off the ceiling and stuff. Yeah, and 753 00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:51.840 you'll have some stuff that's like an explosive and you have to kind of arc 754 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:52.840 it. So yeah, it's got kind of a Worms two D thing going 755 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:54.960 on there. A lot of the most of the guns don't have laser sights 756 00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.599 on them, so it's a lot of just eyeballing your aim trying to make 757 00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.880 sure you're getting a head shot. Nice. Uh, it's did you finish 758 00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:04.000 it? I know, I'm still working on it, Okay. Like looking 759 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.239 at the number of stars you can get, it seemed like it might be 760 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.559 a little short. Are you just in that main early area? Oh wait, 761 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:13.280 is that not the total number? Yeah, because it'll tell you like, 762 00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:15.599 oh, you know, x out of forty four stars. That's just 763 00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:19.280 for that opening. That's just oh wow, yeah, okay, never mind, 764 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:21.119 I thought that was the whole game. Oh no, no, okay, 765 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:22.679 I don't know how many areas there are. Wow, Like I've put 766 00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:25.519 a lot of hours into it, Okay, just it just went from a 767 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.840 very short game to a very long game, which you know, I go 768 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:30.519 back and replay a lot of levels just to get more loot and stuff like 769 00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:34.760 that, and it's very replayable. I really really enjoy that. Have you 770 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.239 found uh? I feel like I should just be min maxing three characters though, 771 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.119 as opposed to switching around a lot. I've kind of switched them around 772 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.599 because like you'll have one guy that's really good at melee or whatever, and 773 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.039 you'll have your sharpshooters that have the laser sights. And I've bounced around a 774 00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:49.599 lot. I like kind of leveling up everyone. What sort of connection do 775 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.800 you see between SteamWorld Heist and Steam World dig is that visual stole visual? 776 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.880 It's actually even more specific than that. There are like shared sound effects and 777 00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.559 stuff like there's it's actually a super cohesive feel to it, you know, 778 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:06.119 like just menu design sound effects, like even the way they like weird cynthy 779 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:09.199 robot voices sound. Yeah, I Dug Dig Yeah, yes, yes, 780 00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:16.239 Dig did you Yes, no, I'm no ties of yes, Steamwold. 781 00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:20.320 I actually actually finished Steam Rol I had. I had a save like a 782 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.800 month's old Steam World Dig save on my Vida that I finished on the flight 783 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.119 home and then immediately whipped out my three s and start playing Heists after a 784 00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.000 finished Dig. Those are great games, and I love that they have this 785 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.920 like shared world, but they're making totally different types of games. Yeah, 786 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.679 it's cool and they're both really good. Yeah, both both great games, 787 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.559 but different styles completely. Yeah, so play some of that on the commute. 788 00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:44.039 Also dinked around a bit with they've got those PS two games on PS 789 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.320 four now, so I played some Perapa two and that's when I'm I played 790 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:51.519 a little Papa two as well. It brought me back to being bummed out 791 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:53.320 by that game when it came out, because I remember, like Perappa one 792 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:57.159 was around the time where you could spend fifty dollars and get perapp one and 793 00:45:57.239 --> 00:45:59.519 be like, yeah, that was that's a good game. But then by 794 00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:00.840 the time the two came out on PS two, it's like, yeah, 795 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.679 that was a couple of hours of game play. Yeah, And also like 796 00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.519 Chop Top Master Running stage isn't nearly as good, and but the one stage 797 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:14.000 where they the it's the I guess think it's the it's the final stage before 798 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.800 the final stage where all of them come back and play, and it's like 799 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.400 like the kind of computer re versions of all of the levels. You've already 800 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.679 played the Ghost Grandpa that makes Burgers. Yeah, yeah, it's been a 801 00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:27.639 while since I beat it. Yeah, I remember liking that level a lot. 802 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.960 Anyway. Yeah, the timing windows stuff didn't seem great on that, 803 00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:36.800 no, no, yeah, yeah, I had trouble with that. I 804 00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:38.199 just played like two or three levels of that. Didn't played a little bit. 805 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:43.000 Cdtvs. They ruined old rhythm games. Yeah, and it's pretty much, 806 00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:45.599 but also there's not that great to begin with. It's not but it's 807 00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:50.480 weird that they're rereleasing that thing, and it's like kind of not great. 808 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.519 I guess on some levels, like well it's ten bucks, but at the 809 00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.440 same time, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Twist mettal Black played 810 00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.199 some of that look though, because there's some upscaling going on. I thought 811 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.039 they looked good and PS two games looked sharp. Yeah, I thought they 812 00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:05.159 looked really good. I want to play Perappo, which is hard to tell 813 00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:08.440 what that one is because yeah, style is so specific to it. Fist 814 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.199 Metal is harder than I remember being because I remember playing through that with every 815 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.280 character back then, and like here, it's like, holy shit, like 816 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.639 I'm dying pretty frequently in that game. It feels this way looser than I 817 00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:21.119 remember it feeling. But then the main thing that I've been playing in the 818 00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.159 last few days and getting really excited about all over again is Splatoon. I 819 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.599 just loaded it up. I don't remember what spurred that on, but you 820 00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:29.920 know, I hadn't played a lot of the new maps, the new modes, 821 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.320 new Rainmaker, Ranked mode and everything, and it had been so long 822 00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:37.159 that I go into the gear thing and Sheldon or whatever, the gun peddling, 823 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.920 you know, shell, Hermit crab or whatever. It's just so much 824 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:42.559 of hitting a through like, oh, by the way, you can also 825 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.760 use this, Oh here's this paintbucket you can use. Oh, here's this 826 00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.320 hydroub laster thing here. So just tons of new weapons and stuff and testing 827 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:50.800 all those out. And I think it was when we were doing our Game 828 00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:52.000 of the Year stuff and we were playing the music and I was like, 829 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.880 oh, yeah, yeah, I remember some really good association. So this 830 00:47:55.039 --> 00:48:02.119 put out a soundtrack to Splatoon in Japan and called it splut Tune good good 831 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.760 good stuff is great. But yeah, I thought back to like how good 832 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:10.199 just the name Splatoon was for that game. Yep, it's got cartoon platoon 833 00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:15.559 splatting, but lots of different things. Back for my spell check, right 834 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.960 as I was writing things about Splatoon during Game of the Year one T two, 835 00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.800 ohs, well, it kept just correcting it to Platoon. Yeah, 836 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:27.760 and I almost left it picture of Charlie Sheen. It turns out that game 837 00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.039 is still super fun. I had not played that in in a few months, 838 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.480 and man, im I'll probably play some tonight. It's just a joyous 839 00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:38.840 game. On the multiplayer stuff forwards, okay, you know, I kind 840 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.119 of want to go back, and because I never beat that single player stuff, 841 00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:45.119 and and now that I have like a Splatoon ambo uh you know, 842 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:46.480 I put it on there, I might try some of that stuff. Although 843 00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.480 it's just like try this level but with the role levels. Yeah. Yeah, 844 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.320 it's played the same levels but with a different weapon. It's not great. 845 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.960 Yeah, but the new Rainmaker mode is pretty cool. I like that. 846 00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.719 I don't know if you've seen that at all with the like Golden weapon, 847 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.199 like push it to enemy territory as much as you can. But yeah, 848 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:05.480 the new levels, I hadn't played on that like art museum level or 849 00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:08.079 that one like resort. Uh man. Yeah, that game is just awesome, 850 00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:10.519 really really good. I remember when it first came out and we did 851 00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:14.280 that bomb cast and we were all really really up on it. Yeah, 852 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:15.440 and I think you know, some of us played for for a month or 853 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.400 so, but I think we all pretty much fell off. But going back 854 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:23.480 to it felt great, no trouble getting into the games. Vibrant community is 855 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:27.760 super active, Like I'm sure that got a lift from kind of just Christmas 856 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.679 Presents, so they did a lot of pack ends and stuff in Japan also, 857 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:32.840 so it's but nice to hear people are still playing it. Oh yeah, 858 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:36.199 super easy to get into stuff. So yeah, it's just a great 859 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:40.079 game, still excellent. Uh Jason, Yo, Hey, have any time 860 00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:44.440 amidst all the parenting and a lot of time to play because there was a 861 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.360 lot of sick times. Oh yeah, okay, but usually on like long 862 00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:51.000 breaks like this, I try and take a bit of a sabbatical from the 863 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:52.039 games. Yeah, a little bit like, I didn't want to get to 864 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.840 you Hetty with anything, so probably healthy. Continue to play a lot of 865 00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:59.599 Rocket League. Of course, that game is fucking fantastic. Shou ever get 866 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:02.559 the platinum? Uh? Yeah I did? What's that my first platinum? 867 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:08.360 I think it may have been yeah, yeah, wow wow, Dedication Man 868 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:13.079 right there, But no other than other than that. The Humble bundle released 869 00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.920 like a comic book bundle, so I spent a lot of time with, 870 00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:22.199 like rereading some of that stuff. There's one comic in particular called Irredeemable, 871 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:28.360 which is basically if Superman said, hey, fuck you guys, I'm sick 872 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:31.400 of you're fucking shit. You don't appreciate a goddamn thing. I'm gonna start 873 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.760 destroying cities. Yes he should, Yes, Look that is Irredeemable. Isn't 874 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.239 that that one Superman movie where he grew the stubble? Oh he supposed to 875 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:40.840 night and Split in two and grew the stubble with the Reeves. That's what 876 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.679 it's based off of, I'm sure. But yeah, there's like a Justice 877 00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:46.079 League an analog and stuff, and they've got to try and stop them, 878 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:52.119 and it's more relationship based than anything else. Not your typical like it's Superhero 879 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.159 comic comic. But yeah, I read through like all ten volumes of that. 880 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.320 Wow, really really, what's uh? What are they? What? 881 00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.440 Exactly what format are they selling? Is it like a code that goes into 882 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:05.119 like some service or are they just like direct downloads from a Humble Bundle site 883 00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.599 in various formats? Yeah? Is there like a comic equivalent of DRM free 884 00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:13.159 basically? Yeah? Yeah, all of those are DRM free, So it's 885 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.280 just a file. I've got a reader called like a Chunky reader on my 886 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:21.400 iPad, and you could actually log into the Humble Bundle site and download those 887 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.800 directly to your device, like it was a completely seamless process. Yeah, 888 00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:29.199 that's great. So does everybody just read comic sante of tablet these days? 889 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:30.559 That's the best way for me to do it, does it? Yeah? 890 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.760 I used to, you know, buy a lot of you don't need any 891 00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:40.280 backing boards, no PVC free plastics, acid paper, acid free backing boards. 892 00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:44.960 But yeah. Other than that, just a little bit of a Dragons 893 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.280 Dogma, which is coming out on PC soon. I don't think we can 894 00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:50.039 talk too much about that yet. I think Austin's going to be doing a 895 00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.880 quick look out there hopefully Other than that. Yeah, that's that's about it. 896 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:57.079 I forgot my damn three DS at work, so I couldn't play steam 897 00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.760 World. That sucked. Forgot to mention. I started the first Dark Souls. 898 00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:05.000 Oh yeah, that games good. God, I can't wait to invade 899 00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.000 you. Pretty good. I haven't been invaded yet. I had summoned a 900 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.480 guy. It was nice. I didn't know about the DS fixed thing, 901 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.760 so, like, I wanted to go in totally blind because I beat Bloodborn 902 00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:15.119 and thoroughly enjoyed that. I think it was like my number five game of 903 00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:17.719 the year. I played a bit of Dark Souls too, but I never 904 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.840 liked the thing about like dying and then it like capped your health things, 905 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:22.960 so I didn't know that wasn't in Dark Souls one. I went in pretty 906 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:27.400 blind and uh yeah, not knowing about DSFix. Like I was streaming in 907 00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.079 the whole chaps up up in arms that I wasn't using DSFix A. Sorry, 908 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:32.800 yeah, I had no idea about this thing. Don't worry. That's 909 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:37.400 if you're streaming Dark Souls, you will have multiple times of people up in 910 00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:39.119 arms about some fucking thing you're doing. Oh. The other thing is if 911 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:43.079 you summon. If you summon other people into your game, people don't like 912 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.920 that at all. But did you summon for I just I didn't know. 913 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:50.840 I didn't know it was fourth thing. I guess it was the tourist demon 914 00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:52.360 or whatever. But then the guy didn't even wind up doing anything. That's 915 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:54.840 the very Oh oh it was just an NPC. No, it was a 916 00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.079 dude, but he just stood around and like taunted and stuff like. I 917 00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:00.760 think I actually killed the dam in my first time. Okay, but that 918 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:06.880 ds fix it turns out, actually helps it looks way better. I heard 919 00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:09.039 it screw stuff up with like the frame rate cap stuff like jump start based 920 00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:13.719 on because the physics simulation is weird, is tied to the frame rate somehow. 921 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.239 But like I I very rarely. I think, like sliding down ladders 922 00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:20.679 will occasionally cause a problem, but you can you can just hit backspace to 923 00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.519 toggle back to thirty. I heard that have a problem. That's a default 924 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.280 thing with d S fix. Yeah, cool, I might have to do 925 00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.360 that. But yeah, I thought it was gonna be one of those things 926 00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:29.320 where it's like, oh, let's see what the first one's like and I'll 927 00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:31.280 you know, play for an hour or whatever. But I like it a 928 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:34.800 lot. I think I'm gonna keep playing it. I'm really curious, so 929 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:36.840 I mean, you can speak to this as you continue to play it, 930 00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:38.960 like what it would be like to play that one after having played literally all 931 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:43.719 of the others, as opposed to like I think most most oh, okay, 932 00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:45.559 you haven't played no, but I'd played Dark put like maybe twenty five 933 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:49.000 hours into Dark Souls two and I'd beat Bloodbarning. I think Dark Souls one 934 00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:51.519 was probably the entry point for the most people, like it was for me 935 00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:53.199 for sure. I saw a lot of people said it's it's their favorite one, 936 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:58.360 so so coming to that fresh like not really understanding like what that's what, 937 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.760 like what the spirit of that series is and what you can get away 938 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:02.199 with and like kind of just what the ends now sare as opposed to like 939 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:05.719 kind of understanding all that stuff from having played the other games. I can't 940 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:07.840 imagine going and totally blind because like I hadn't played this game or read about 941 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.760 it, but I'm playing Blood Born and stuff. I get how combat and 942 00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.559 just the gist of the game works. I can't imagine going in blind. 943 00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:17.280 It was rough, but it's it's super good. I mean, it holds 944 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:20.000 up. Well, I mean, what, it's four or five years old 945 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:23.880 at this point. Twelve. Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a lot 946 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.920 of fun. Yeah, how from where are you now? Oh? God, 947 00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:30.719 I beat the tourist team in I just killed a black night. I 948 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:34.639 went to a bridge and a big old dragon came down and killed a bunch 949 00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:37.800 of dudes. Okay, yeah, so I'm right around there. Okay, 950 00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.239 Okay, that's pretty early owned. Oh yeah, but there's still tons of 951 00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:43.199 stuff I gotta learn still, you know, stuff like I don't know how 952 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:46.400 kindling works are becoming reversing, hollowing and all that stuff. Every one of 953 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:50.519 those games has its own weird mechanics. Yeah, like that have a shield 954 00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:52.800 again after blood Born? Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a good game. 955 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:57.320 I'm surprised at how much I've really enjoyed all the time I've spent playing 956 00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.119 that series. They patched all the games for one of his live stuff out 957 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:05.559 of that, right, you even had. I haven't messed with it since 958 00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:07.760 they took a lot of stuff out. Yeah, none of that. That's 959 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.559 good. Yeah, great game, all right? How about you? Bred? 960 00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.920 Uh that's kind of I mean I poked it fall Out four like at 961 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:20.559 least half a dozen different times for maybe thirty to forty five minutes each. 962 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.360 I guess I'll keep playing it. Yeah, at some point I did some 963 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:32.519 poking into Metal Gear Solid five The Phantom Pain on PC, which I played 964 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:38.159 it on PS four, but decided I wanted to like, I wanted to 965 00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:43.639 run around and fuck shit up basically, and and it seemed like starting a 966 00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:45.960 new game was actually probably the worst way to do that, because I got 967 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:50.599 to crawl around a fucking hospital for like forty minutes first. Actually having done 968 00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:52.920 that sequence a handful of times, now, yeah, it's not that long, 969 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:57.440 but it's still longer than it needed, longer than it needed to be. 970 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:05.360 And then I downloaded a cheat engine script which lets you do some real 971 00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:09.920 weird shit, like you can change his run speed, so I changed it 972 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:15.719 to times five, and he's faster than a skull. He's like, yeah, 973 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.480 it's fucking nuts, and he walks at normal speed. So it's just 974 00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.840 as soon as you click in the stick, he's just fucking gone faster than 975 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.960 a horse. It's it's hilarious, it is, but that's it's it's awesome 976 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:31.400 because it's hilarious. Uh, and you know you can research stuff immediately you 977 00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:35.800 can. I'm surprised that you can't just like hit a button and give yourself 978 00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.159 everything. Yeah, that's you know, the game isn't quite there's some stuff 979 00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:44.079 that seems like you can do that with a little bit. But you can 980 00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.280 like edit the stats on your soldiers to be like I want an electro spinning 981 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.880 guy right now, ten hours before I need him. Just give it to 982 00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.280 me, fuck you, and you can have it. So it's it's neat. 983 00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:55.400 I mean, obviously it's not the way to play through that game the 984 00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:59.440 first time, I think, but but going back to it and just wanting 985 00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:04.559 to just kill shit, being able to be completely invisible or you know, 986 00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.480 at the drop of a dime. Actually it's not invisible. It's what is 987 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:09.719 it. It's whatever the hack is that they that they have. It's it 988 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:15.599 makes the guys start cracking up, like there's some item is like is there 989 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.960 like the decoy items that make them laugh or is there a gas? I 990 00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:22.360 can't tell if they're laughing or coughing, but they're just kind of like they 991 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.800 kind of double over or just kind of lay their head back, or it's 992 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.239 like they're freaking out a little bit and they just will, and so it's 993 00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.000 just all the troops in a base to start doing that, and you're like, 994 00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.440 well, okay, and then you just gun them all down. I 995 00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:37.920 mean, that's not fun. So I'm only just fucking around with that here 996 00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:40.000 and there. But it's only fun when they activate and then you're invincible and 997 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.920 you have set your gun to no recoil and rapid fires, so it just 998 00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:49.239 fires it like a thousand times the normal speed. So it's just like riot 999 00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.800 SMG, like pinpoint precisions, going as like fast as it possibly can, 1000 00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:54.719 and you're just like, all right, this is dumb. How easy it 1001 00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:57.880 would it be if I use Because I played on PC, so I've got 1002 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.719 my one hundred plus hour file that like, I'm not really playing anymore. 1003 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:02.960 I would love to just apply it to that and go around and suck up 1004 00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:07.400 basic You can totally do then, so it I mean, yeah, what, 1005 00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:09.679 I don't care though it would make changes to your save and you know, 1006 00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.920 if you're playing online, something weird might happen there with their server stuff. 1007 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.960 So you know, I've I've been disconnecting from the online even though like 1008 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.079 I'm not up to the fob point in the game, so I don't really 1009 00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:24.440 know what that would do, but it's I don't know, it's weird with 1010 00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:29.079 an online game like that because like theoretically you could use it to cheat and 1011 00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:34.920 create a big fob base before you'd normally be able to or or build it 1012 00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:39.280 up big, you know, for free. So there's some weird stuff around 1013 00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.960 that. But I don't know, it's fun to like, you know, 1014 00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:46.280 if you my favorite times with that game, where when it was just a 1015 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:51.039 big dumb sandbox and just having a few more buttons to press you make the 1016 00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:57.079 sandbox dumber, was was pretty cool. That sounds great. Yeah, yeah, 1017 00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.719 and you can you can set the ratio that's the speed on the running. 1018 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:07.079 I said to five, you just double double click a thing and then 1019 00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:09.199 punching a number. I punched in five. I was like, that seems 1020 00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:12.559 like enough. You should see, Yes, you could probably put in five 1021 00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:15.440 hundred. You should see if you can outstrip the game's ability to stream in 1022 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.960 the world. Just run it at fifty or something to see if you could 1023 00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:22.280 run across all of Afghanistan in like twenty seconds or something and just see what 1024 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:23.559 happens, turn around and let it all low. You know, we should 1025 00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:29.199 do that. We should do that here? Yeah, perhaps that I want 1026 00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:31.719 to see that. It's NAT's Nat. I heard a lot of chatter online 1027 00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:37.079 about a hot new idler. Yeah, yeah, the twitch idler. Yeah. 1028 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:42.079 I'm hearing some folks talk about that. I went in there. I 1029 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:49.079 should have probably not done this. So I had this idea and instead of 1030 00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.159 like keeping the idea to myself and then becoming a multi millionaire, I just 1031 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:57.800 typed it into Twitter and hit go. I said, wouldn't they someone should 1032 00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:01.719 make an idol game that increments based on viewers in twitch? Oh wait, 1033 01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:07.199 you weren't running that? Oh see everyone that I was seeing was saying that, 1034 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:08.679 like it was your stream Nope, because yeah, I started streaming there. 1035 01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:10.599 Oh you're competing with Jeff's twitch idler. And I was like, what 1036 01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:15.519 did he build a thing? Oh? I thought you would built the Oh 1037 01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:20.800 this thing is. I don't want to take any credit for his name's Andrew. 1038 01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:22.760 I had someone. So then twenty minutes later I get a response on 1039 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.679 Twitter that says, you mean like this, Like, well, fuck, 1040 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:30.480 so he built it based on your tweet? Yeah? Uh? And then 1041 01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:34.719 now over time it has been like additional features have been added so every user 1042 01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:39.840 can type, upgrade once an hour to upgrade a numbers factory. It's based 1043 01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:44.000 on numbers and then number of messages, so the room was in slow mode 1044 01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.760 to keep people from spamming too hard. And then people that follow the channel 1045 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:54.119 that makes the numbers go higher. Man say, I talk about a laptop 1046 01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:59.159 here, and see what's what's changed since then? Because there was a timer 1047 01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.119 and then a picture of a cookie appeared and there was a basketball on the 1048 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:05.079 screen for a while. I don't know what the fuck's going on. I 1049 01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:08.360 have nothing to do with this any longer. People were under the impression that 1050 01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:12.760 you created this. I wish that seems like something that like maybe if I 1051 01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:15.039 was like a little more patient, maybe I could have made some part of 1052 01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:16.679 it. I was impressed for a second. I was like, I don't 1053 01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:21.400 know how he did that. It's a it's scripts and math, it's web 1054 01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:27.599 servers and sockets and I don't know, sockets, probably sockets, probably sockets. 1055 01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:30.519 You guys ever play any of the Arkham Knight DLC. No. I 1056 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.559 heard it was terrible. I just kept hearing it was bad. Yeah. 1057 01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:35.920 I tried poking at that a little bit over the break end. YEP. 1058 01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:37.559 Seriously, I made it like ten minutes into each of those really like, 1059 01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:43.599 yeah, so rentegrade for me? Yeah, I looked out. But that's 1060 01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:45.440 a shame, all right, So I can report in here. There are 1061 01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:51.119 currently seventy nine people watching the twitch idler, which that's the name of the 1062 01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:55.320 account, twitch Idler. It has a thousand and sixty four follows twelve thousand 1063 01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.639 messages. The multipliers about fifty five. The number factory is a level sixteen 1064 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:04.000 forty six. I'm gonna type upgrade here. Does it have to be all 1065 01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:07.079 caps's exclamation point upgrade? You don't have to earn any currency before you upgrade? 1066 01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:10.880 No, if every user can only do it once an hour. And 1067 01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:15.360 the number is currently at four hundred and eighty eight million, you know that's 1068 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:19.960 a pretty high number. It keeps it's it's look, I mean, it's 1069 01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.840 could be high. Okay, oh wait, it's a different layout than I 1070 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:24.639 said. There's no cookie anymore. Yeah, the cookie's gone. And now 1071 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:29.159 see the version is updated. It was originally like twitch idler three thousand, 1072 01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.880 early access alpha and now it's a version six point eight six D. So 1073 01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:37.159 put in some work. Numbers going up, yeah, and then there's some 1074 01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:44.239 science here. More numbers equals viewers times follows divided by one hundred plus messages 1075 01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:52.159 divided by a thousand plus factories divided by fifty. So that's dumb. That's 1076 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:57.920 a nightmare. And there were like a thousand people in there at one point. 1077 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:04.039 Thankfully, it seems to have died down. Uh. Yeah, I 1078 01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.000 actually have a lot of really bad ideas about what I would do to this 1079 01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.599 thing things gott Graham over the holiday, I see the holiday. This was 1080 01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:14.960 fucking yes, I was still technically part of the break, I guess, 1081 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:17.960 so yeah, I'll take this away from me. All Right, Well, 1082 01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:21.480 I'm glad we all got a little bit of time with some games. It 1083 01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:24.840 seems like we've all got some stuff to continue messing with before stuff starts coming 1084 01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:30.239 out again, which is always a good thing. All Right, believe it 1085 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.079 or not. On the fifth January, there is news to talk about. 1086 01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:37.079 Okay, do you believe it? No? Okay, well I don't care 1087 01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:39.519 at all. Like I said, I believe it or not, we're gonna 1088 01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:45.559 go right into the stuff anyway. Headline the first news stories. Yep, 1089 01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:50.639 I've been busy over the holiday. Within twenty four hours of you hearing this 1090 01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:52.599 or less, or maybe it's already happened by now, if you were a 1091 01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:57.639 few days later on this podcast, Oculus Riff pre orders will have the gun, 1092 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:00.440 right, Yeah, but as of this recording, we still don't know 1093 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:05.280 how much it costs. That's really crazy. They came out Monday morning saying, 1094 01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:09.360 hey, two days hence, forty eight hours from now Wednesday morning, 1095 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:14.280 pre orders will go up all major retailers at your game stops. They neglection 1096 01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:17.079 j Bennys, Yeah right, yes, the Sears, Amazons hit the Sears. 1097 01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:20.800 I'm gonna go to Woolworth's, go put your five dollars down because nobody 1098 01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:26.159 actually knows what this thing is going to cost, which of course led to 1099 01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:30.159 rampant speculation. Sure this morning that it is higher than you might like, 1100 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:33.920 Oh, I'm sure, which seems like something they've been hitting at more and 1101 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:38.599 more. Yeah, they've they've been saying like, hey, this stuff is 1102 01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:41.320 expensive. I don't know if you saw Palmer Lucky on Twitter a few weeks 1103 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:44.119 ago. I think it was some time last month, you know what I'm 1104 01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:46.280 talking about. I wasn't able to find his specific tweets, but he there 1105 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:50.039 was kind of a chain of tweets out of him implying, Hey, this 1106 01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:54.920 thing is gonna be pricey, yeah, like even us selling it at costs 1107 01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.199 with all the things that they've we've upgraded, because you know, they what 1108 01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:01.159 were the two development kits were? Like what three? Like? Like not 1109 01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.840 only were they selling those things as cheap as they possibly could just to get 1110 01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:06.639 them into developer's hands, which they needed to do, but like he was 1111 01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:11.239 kept stressing like it picked on a lot of stuff to this and upgraded a 1112 01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:15.559 lot of parts since those things. So you know, people are thrown around, 1113 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:17.960 you know, like five hundred at the low end up to six seven 1114 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:25.840 hundred, a thousand, seven ninety nine. I was gonna say, I 1115 01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:29.119 was gonna say five ninety nine. Sure, Yeah, I could easily say 1116 01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:32.119 at this point, I could easily see that happening. Uh, twenty thousand 1117 01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:38.039 dollars. Let's see parsing this story here for anything? What was it they 1118 01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.119 said a while back? So you know, the fifteen hundred dollars figure has 1119 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:44.840 been going around for a while, the which one fifteen hundred dollars for the 1120 01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:47.760 kit andy PC that will run it. Oh, it's kind of what Oculus 1121 01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:54.320 has been saying since last year. So kind of you know, draw your 1122 01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:58.480 own conclusions from that, Yeah, I guess. But if that if that 1123 01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:00.840 PC also has to include a monitor and all this other stuff, that's a 1124 01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:06.760 shitty PC. Yeah, but I'm assuming that that's the power of the R 1125 01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:11.440 man. You don't need to monitor, monitor your entire life. Nope, 1126 01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:15.679 in this thing, I've got a word process in here, jack in fucking 1127 01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:18.920 type some ship. Yeah. I don't know how you guys feel about this, 1128 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:24.199 Like what what would you pay to buy into the first gin Oculus rift? 1129 01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:29.559 Really? I like Oculus a lot. I mean, it's a good 1130 01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:31.320 time to buy Dan. Let me tell you you were kidding. Of course. 1131 01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:38.079 We literally just came off the discussion about you impulse buying that doesn't really 1132 01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:41.000 have a lot of purpose yet. I mean, that's them. My big 1133 01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:44.159 concern about this stuff is like you might get the headset and then kind of 1134 01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:47.159 sit there going okay out what like once you've burned through all the tech demos 1135 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:49.280 and stuff. I mean, I guess you know they are. Oculus is 1136 01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:53.119 out there trying to sign some games and stuff. So it's gonna come with 1137 01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:57.840 was it Lucky's Tail? Yeah? Is that the Mario? Is that Mario 1138 01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:01.239 sixty four? That's fine? I played, yeah, and I saw if 1139 01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:03.960 you if you pre order it, you're also gonna get Eve Valkyrie right with 1140 01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:11.440 it. Okay, Eve Valkyrie seems like a smarter pack in because Platformer does 1141 01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:13.239 not seem like, I mean, it was fine. They've got to have 1142 01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.400 something that's you know, probably yes rbat, you know, but at least 1143 01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:20.079 First Platformer is a little more uh just kind of mass market, I think 1144 01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:25.360 than Space even even an Arcades. Then the thing mass market about the Oculus 1145 01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:30.719 though, that's maybe the part about it. Maybe they just would like, 1146 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:34.079 you know, no one's gonna actually buy that game because the only people buying 1147 01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:39.960 the rift are fucking weirdo crazy people that just want to go to space forever. 1148 01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:46.280 So yeah, how much would you would you pay? I would I 1149 01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.920 would probably pay about six hundred, I guess. God, I don't know, 1150 01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:53.559 Like yeah, if if if I were in for one, I would 1151 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:55.880 probably go about that high. But again, I would like to I would 1152 01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:59.519 like to own one, but I don't know what I will do with it. 1153 01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:02.679 And also like I just I don't know if I'm ready to cast my 1154 01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:05.239 lot with any one company yet, you know, like yeah, same, 1155 01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.559 Yeah, there's a lot of competition out there, and this is still kind 1156 01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:11.400 of first gin. Yeah, I don't know if I want to be an 1157 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:15.039 early adopter of VR. That's the thing I worry about because I'm gonna buy 1158 01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:16.760 the first real one that comes out for sure, Like I don't count that 1159 01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:21.159 Samsung Gear VR thing. So like between Steam and PlayStation VR and Oculus, 1160 01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:24.359 I will buy the first one for sure, But I'm gonna hate it if 1161 01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:28.000 I buy the Steam one and then Oculus is better and I have to spend 1162 01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:31.720 or whatever. The Steam VR stuff is relatively open. It seems like that 1163 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.760 that anything that supports steams VR platform may work on a rift. I thought 1164 01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:39.880 I saw some people claiming that that seemed to be the case, but I 1165 01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:42.840 don't know for sure. That hardware seemed pretty good. Yeah, but they're 1166 01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:45.800 so They're also they're pushing back the Oculus Touch controllers the other half of the 1167 01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.560 story, which seems nuts to me, because that's the thing I feel like 1168 01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:53.319 that all the recent demos have leaned on. Yeah, but if you think 1169 01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:57.800 about it, and I think this is maybe was part of what Palmer Lucky 1170 01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:00.920 was saying on Twitter. It was like that stuff a little further down the 1171 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:06.079 pipe for people, like they should probably like the stuff that's gonna require people 1172 01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:09.239 to devote a room to it, that people are gonna have to be up 1173 01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:13.560 and moving around doing all this stuff is crazy town, Like, that's not 1174 01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:15.439 that's not realistic for a lot of people right now. Do you think those 1175 01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.000 controllers don't make sense if you're just sitting in a chair. I think they 1176 01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:20.760 can. But I think on the feats, you know, the demos have 1177 01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:23.520 been very much on the feet. But I think in terms of just like 1178 01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.680 movement demos and a lot of the stuff that you know, we've saw with 1179 01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:29.680 a vibe, I think that that is like a far flung future on top 1180 01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:31.760 of a far flung future right now, because that's a lot of space that 1181 01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:35.119 people don't have, plus student worth. Remembering they're packing an Xbox one controller 1182 01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.720 in with the rift, right, so they're kind of casting their games. 1183 01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:43.319 Yeah, yeah, like, yes, Star Citizen can't game out today. 1184 01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:47.199 I think and said like we're we're gonna push in favor of the R which 1185 01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:54.479 I guess means another nine years of development or something. So yeah, you 1186 01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:57.000 know, I think they have to get off the ground with something that is 1187 01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.960 a little more reasonable, and something that is a little easier to wrap your 1188 01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:03.039 head around, and and something that is not affordable, but at least like 1189 01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:05.760 a little closer to it, Yeah, and saying like, hey, you 1190 01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:11.520 need these two touch controllers and the goggles to do the things, and also 1191 01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:13.800 a ton of space in your house to set up, you know, so 1192 01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.880 that everything can see each other. No one has that. Yes, Yeah, 1193 01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:19.880 if they're if they're sweating the sticker shock, which reading between the lines 1194 01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:21.840 of what they're saying, it seems like they might be a little bit. 1195 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:26.560 I don't know that they're sweating it more than as so much as they are, 1196 01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:29.119 just like they're gonna put this thing out here big because it's someone has 1197 01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:31.720 to and it's not going to be some big mainstream success. It's not gonna 1198 01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:34.600 take the world by a storm day one. They have to be in this 1199 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:38.600 for the long haul. They have to they have to be married to VR 1200 01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:43.680 for a good long time. As the technology improves, as the prices come 1201 01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:45.680 down, Like, you know, the first rift is not going to be 1202 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:47.840 the thing that's going to sell a trillion cop you know, you like headsets, 1203 01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:51.960 it'll be the third. Yet I wonder how fast they iterate on this 1204 01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:56.800 stuff. Yeah, like did you get a new headset every year? But 1205 01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:59.199 maybe it's the same headset, but they figured out ways to make it more 1206 01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:01.479 efficiently. I mean, you know that as the screen projects go down, 1207 01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:04.520 you know, it's like they'll start to see some savings eventually. Maybe they're 1208 01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:10.159 not necessarily like bumping the screen resolution every year or anything crazy like that. 1209 01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:13.560 Or you know, maybe it's like, hey, we've figured out a better 1210 01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:15.399 way to do audio. You know, hey, we figured out better way 1211 01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:16.359 to do this. Or when the touch controllers come out, then it's like, 1212 01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:18.880 okay, well we've got this bundle that does this, or you know, 1213 01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:21.960 there's stuff they could do around it. The Rift. The Rift ended 1214 01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:26.600 up with built in headphones, right, isn't that where the production model is 1215 01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:29.079 at? I think so it seems like a weird direction to go for, 1216 01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:32.439 like, you know, people, maybe not, I don't know, Maybe 1217 01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:35.359 I shouldn't speak if I don't know for sure, but yeah, is there 1218 01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:40.960 any chance of them selling it to blow cost? I think that was part 1219 01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.720 of what Paula Lucky was tweeting about a few weeks ago, was that he 1220 01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:45.920 mentioned something about selling an ad costs at cost, which is probably the best 1221 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:48.640 they could get away with, I would assume, because you know, they 1222 01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:54.359 just want to get it out there in the people's hands and a better way 1223 01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:56.199 to do it than trying to sell it a huge problem, like you know 1224 01:11:56.359 --> 01:12:00.359 what's there? You know, they showed us the Oculus store. He you 1225 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.520 know, a VR store for buying games, Like what how are you going 1226 01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:05.640 to get games? How much of the game's gonna cost you buying them off 1227 01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:09.039 Steam? Also? Or do they well they work across the board like you 1228 01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:13.159 know, what are what are you doing? Yeah? I just so much 1229 01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:16.560 of their stuff is based on them building their own things and getting their own 1230 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.359 things out there and curating that stuff. And I feel like that that part 1231 01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:23.560 of it seems a little half baked or not maybe not half baked, but 1232 01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:28.880 they just haven't really talked a lot about it. Having a VR shop would 1233 01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:31.600 be pretty fucking cool. Yeah, should be. It should just be like 1234 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.279 like a virtual pawn shop. You just like walk around it and pick up 1235 01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:38.079 the games and like look at them. And there was like the Doda shop 1236 01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:44.359 thing that you did right on the Viva viv Vibe decided that it's Vibe officially 1237 01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:47.079 Vibe okay, oh and the yeah and then Chet from Chet from Valveal is 1238 01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:50.920 also on Twitter today kind of like sort of talking a big game about what 1239 01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:55.079 they're doing at CS. I mean nothing, you know, it's not like 1240 01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:57.760 they have any giant reveal and waiting in the wings or anything. But like 1241 01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:03.279 then we'll see. He didn't necessarily sound like that, but but it was 1242 01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.159 very much like a like, you know, we were kind of sitting on 1243 01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:09.680 our secrets last year at this time, and this year it's going to be 1244 01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:14.920 very different as thees for us. So of course you know they're out also 1245 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:17.600 in spring. I can't it's very hard to keep track of all the shifting 1246 01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:21.000 release windows, and like, all right they shipped, they were shipping a 1247 01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:25.680 small number of units developers right and right by April I think is when it's 1248 01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:28.920 going out wide. Yeah, yeah, so all this stuff should be out 1249 01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:31.239 by summer. Right, Yeah, sure, here we go, assuming nothing 1250 01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:35.239 slips, playing time, get cooped up, hide inside? Yeah why wait 1251 01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:39.560 man? Yeah? Clear a room out. Yeah. I had like a 1252 01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:42.319 foot of space between my goddamn coffee table and my team. I've got a 1253 01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:45.479 clear room. It's still not as big as the areas they were demoing Vibe 1254 01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:47.319 Games in. Yeah, you know, I've got a it's a bedroom that 1255 01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:50.960 with nothing in it that I'm like gonna turn into a home office one of 1256 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:57.640 these days, as seem as I can get the smell out and fucking I 1257 01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:00.199 don't know's it's I can't play vive games that room. I have a pretty 1258 01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:02.560 empty kitchen, but there's a lot of mouse traps there and that seems like 1259 01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:05.760 a bad combination. Yeah, you probably don't want to. It's just like 1260 01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:10.880 enhancing the reality of if you want to use VR in a room with a 1261 01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.920 bunch of sharp box Yeah, that's true me. You know, I mentioned 1262 01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.399 it before, I used the Vibe in like a relatively like sort of cluttered 1263 01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:21.640 but otherwise normal size home office and it was just nowhere near big enough or 1264 01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:26.159 even the demos that they had on it. Yeah, so we will see. 1265 01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:28.319 It's a lot of a lot of questions to be answered that can't really 1266 01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:30.840 be answered until that stuff's all out. Yeah, it's just crazy that it's 1267 01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:35.279 all so soon and that this stuff still seems like it's dogging it. But 1268 01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:39.159 maybe at some point it's like, well, you know, they have to 1269 01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:41.680 get it out there and start selling it so that people make more content, 1270 01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.640 so these problems start to get addressed. Yeah, Like it was probably like 1271 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:48.159 a new technology. This radical was probably never going to be ready a smooth 1272 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:51.079 launch. You know, it was never gonna like just just very easily kind 1273 01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:56.239 of slide its way out into the world. I don't know. I don't 1274 01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:59.119 know if I get one, I I yeah, I'm like, I'm I'm 1275 01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:00.640 very much kind of like, I'm sure we'll have one in the office here 1276 01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:04.399 from definitely like one. But I think in terms of like adopting at home, 1277 01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:08.239 I'm kind of comfortable just waiting and seeing how things check out. I 1278 01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:11.319 think about the way I'm playing games at home these days, and it's not 1279 01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:15.640 something where I can disappear for hours at a time into the void. I'm 1280 01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:19.479 sure my baby would love it. Yeah, just put the on the baby 1281 01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:21.840 by yeah, by him one, two, and then everything will be fine. 1282 01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:25.039 You feel like one of those parents that, oh, I guess it's 1283 01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:26.880 too late now, but you know, he'd be one of those parents that 1284 01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:29.079 teaches their kid cling on. But instead of that, it's like, well, 1285 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:31.760 we're raising our kid in virtual reality space. Yeah. Yeah, virtual 1286 01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:35.960 breastfeed first, first, virtual child blaze, a trail with this stuff the 1287 01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:44.920 kids. Yes, Assassin's Creed go on. Perhaps you've heard of it every 1288 01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:48.159 year for how many years? Quite a few what is it here? Ten 1289 01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:51.119 nine games and eight years, I believe is the figure something like that? 1290 01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:55.399 Remember when everyone thought Prince of Persia was going to be the big thing that 1291 01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:58.079 ubisof kept making forever. It kind of was for a little while. It 1292 01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:00.119 was for a little while. I mean, It's Assins Creed is basically that 1293 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:04.439 with killing dudes. Yeah so you kind of well, yeah, but you 1294 01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:08.760 mainly killed yourself in Prince pretty sure? Could you die in print? The 1295 01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:12.359 second one, I never mind, were you're within yeah? Then god smack, 1296 01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:15.079 weren't you kind of and then yeah, you're right, okay the first 1297 01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:18.359 one, weren't you always just kind of rewinding time into spikes and then it'd 1298 01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:21.279 be like, oh that's not how it happened and rewind Yeah. Yeah, 1299 01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:26.560 it's awesome. It's pretty good. Yes, they've made a lot of Assassins 1300 01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:30.680 Creed games. There is a heavy rumor floating around today, reported by multiple 1301 01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:34.239 sites and four Chances No, but this this Kataki story I pulled said that 1302 01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:38.720 they've also corroborated this. This is where you go if you if you want 1303 01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:43.079 the Assassin's Creed news ten months before Ubisoft wants you to have it, go 1304 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:46.760 to Katami. Yep. Pretty what do they got to lose? Uh? 1305 01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:51.399 The yeah, the rumor is that, uh, most profoundly, that there 1306 01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:54.880 will not be a new Assassins Creed game this year. Fuck you? Like 1307 01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:59.520 that is the thing. No, I was all ready to believe whatever you 1308 01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:02.840 told me, and then you told me complete bullshit. I'll tell you the 1309 01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:08.479 rest of it. It's supposedly codenamed Empire, uh and supposedly set in ancient 1310 01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:12.279 Egypt, which sounds really cool. That actually does sound like but but like 1311 01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:15.600 fucking far and away. The biggest piece of news here is that they're going 1312 01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:18.239 to skip a year, which like great, like yeah, they need to, 1313 01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:21.720 like they need some time off. I finally started playing Syndicate over the 1314 01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:24.840 last couple of days, and like, that's a really solid game. I 1315 01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:28.640 mean really enjoying it so far. And I don't even downloaded Origin and reinstalled 1316 01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:30.399 it over the break, but I couldn't find any games. God damn it. 1317 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:35.239 Assassin's Creed Syndicate is pretty good. Also, Yeah, I don't even 1318 01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:39.159 have the grappling hook yet and I'm really enjoying it. But like Alex put 1319 01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:42.880 it really syscinctily like it. They got the franchise back on the rails like 1320 01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:45.359 they made a good game, but it is just another Assassin's Creed game, 1321 01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:46.920 you know, like with you know, the kind of the expected little iterative 1322 01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:50.800 improvements. So the idea that that franchise could take an entire yet like a 1323 01:17:50.840 --> 01:17:55.760 gould God, like a whole two years, what could it mean? Yeah, 1324 01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:57.399 like what could they do to it in that time? You know, 1325 01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:02.359 that's literally twice as long as four players multiplayer Cocaine Adventure. Okay, that'll 1326 01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:04.279 be the new ub Soft dare. I don't know, can you can you 1327 01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:10.119 like get to the top of pyramid and look around and then slide down it, 1328 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:14.560 slide into the bail is slide into the bail. Hey, that's the 1329 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:20.159 US with two years to get the sliding animation just so and then the real 1330 01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:23.960 lie, the real world sequences. You're doing it. But it's the Luxer 1331 01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:30.920 Okay, all right? And David Blaine or someone who's done there, Chris 1332 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:33.039 Angel has probably done that. Every time I've been near the Luxer, I 1333 01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:36.600 think, man, I would like to slide Luxer. That first slick you 1334 01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:40.520 probably die, But there's got to be a way to make that safe, 1335 01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:44.399 right man? Maybe? Yeah? Anyway, those are those are the kind 1336 01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:48.039 of the big three bullet points about this rumors ancient agypt Uh. It's called 1337 01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:51.439 Empire, and it's coming out next year or yes, next year now now 1338 01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:55.920 that is twenty sixteen, I can say next year, but roughly two years 1339 01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:00.640 from now, huh, which I think would be welcome departure from the way 1340 01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.279 they've handled Assassin's Creed for a number of years. Like it's been great to 1341 01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:06.079 see them go back to the drawing different teams making the games. So it's 1342 01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:10.800 like the teams themselves have had more than twelve months to make the game. 1343 01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:14.640 Yeah, but you know how every team that's that company seems to touch each 1344 01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:16.800 one of those games in some capacity and robs it's all over the place, 1345 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:21.720 just like let it breathe a little bit, like it's you know, there 1346 01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:28.399 still aren't that many great big temple watch dogs too, these room to breathe. 1347 01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:30.279 Yes, obviously, that's the other part of this. I was just 1348 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:31.479 I was just gonna say, there still aren't that many, you know, 1349 01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:39.119 kind of uh big tentpole releases exploring periods of ancient history. I feel like 1350 01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:41.960 there's still a lot for Assassin's Creed to do, even even with as many 1351 01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:45.920 as they have put out over the years. When does that game and talk 1352 01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:48.199 to snake ladies. I don't know. This is this year's is okay? 1353 01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:53.199 What is that Wild Eagle? No? Oh that oh yes, wild though 1354 01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:59.159 I don't know that we're talking about different games because we're talking where you're at 1355 01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:00.760 a bear. Yeah, that's that's wild Okay. I don't know what's the 1356 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:04.680 one I want? Yes, I can agree with you on that, but 1357 01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:08.880 yeah, that's all. Yeah. This tox story at the end just sort 1358 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:11.760 of casually mentions, Hey, we also heard the Watchdock two will be out 1359 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:14.920 this fall, so that'll fill that slot instead. Yeah, and it says 1360 01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:18.359 that is set in San Francisco, which all right, I'm sure they'll get 1361 01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:23.680 it right there. What was the last one Driver Driver San Francisco? Sure, 1362 01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:26.079 I mean the last yeah, the last last handful of games set here? 1363 01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:30.439 What we got san Francisco Rush? Vet? What? Uh? Yeah 1364 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:34.239 Vet? The old spectrum Hollowbite Driving. That's a really old uh read only 1365 01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:40.199 yeah, read only memories, that's neo San Francio. What are the what 1366 01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:45.239 are the true crime games here? There's La New York and Sleeping Dogs at 1367 01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:46.319 that count. Why do I why do I feel like there was some other 1368 01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:53.000 open world game besides Driver set in here. Uh, I mean you could 1369 01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:55.720 go out in the crew. It was like, you know, it was 1370 01:20:55.760 --> 01:21:00.039 kind of fictitious. Okay, yeah, I guess, uh that wasn't that 1371 01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:08.439 San fierro Ins and Andreas. Anyway, Mario is missing as a San Francisco 1372 01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:12.560 level. Yeah, I expect that we'll find out one way or the other. 1373 01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:14.960 Eighty three right. Sure. If they don't want to announce a new 1374 01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:17.239 Asassin screed game, then there you go. It'd be great if they announced 1375 01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:19.760 it and said, by the way, like actually I actually make a big 1376 01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:23.720 deal about it. Yeah, or start to announce a new Assassins screed game 1377 01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:27.079 and say we'll tell you more about that next year and then Watchdogs tea Yeah, 1378 01:21:27.119 --> 01:21:29.640 that's that would be one way to go with it. There'll be a 1379 01:21:29.720 --> 01:21:33.960 leak screenshot and the following Monday they'll make their teaser trailer. Yeah right, 1380 01:21:34.119 --> 01:21:40.159 yeah, I won't watch Dogs. I don't know, man, that game 1381 01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:44.520 had potential. Yeah, it did a good A good version of Watchdogs would 1382 01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:47.399 be pretty cool. Yeah, a less boring version of Watchdogs would be cool. 1383 01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:51.600 But the abilities, I think that just the you know, the stoplight 1384 01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:56.920 stuff just wasn't as cool as it needed to be. Yeah, like your 1385 01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:00.399 tool set wasn't that interesting in that game first, for something thing that had 1386 01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:05.640 all that potential, you know, fucking cybercrime action fun. It's like GTA 1387 01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:09.840 sounds like an amazing concept. Yeah, you know it was. But then 1388 01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:13.439 when it was like Riddler puzzles to make QR codes, No, it was 1389 01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:16.000 just like painting the environment with button prompts that let you do pretty mundane things. 1390 01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:20.520 Still got legs. Though. I don't think I don't think that they 1391 01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:24.640 should make another Watchdogs. I mean I don't think they I don't don't think 1392 01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:28.159 they should keep the character. I think they like toss a lot of that 1393 01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:35.640 story and just keep it in the same world with CTOs cs. Yep. 1394 01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:43.000 Uh man, I have lost I have lost track of time so utterly that 1395 01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:47.520 I cannot remember when that crazy Steam Boom dooggle happened that Christmas Day. That 1396 01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:50.000 was Christmas Day, that's right, You're right. I was sitting there at 1397 01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:54.880 my aunt's house, like frantically trying to log into the Steam app, which 1398 01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:58.439 trying to figure out if somebody had hijacked my challe, which was the worst 1399 01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:01.279 way to go. Yeah, apparently, uh I sat there and refreshed the 1400 01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:04.880 page and got to see a ton of people's last two credit card numbers, 1401 01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:09.399 boy, and sometimes their email address. Yeah who. I signed in once 1402 01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:11.800 and saw somebody else's thing, and I was like, ooh, I'm I'm 1403 01:23:11.880 --> 01:23:13.800 looking out right now. I don't want any part of this. I don't 1404 01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:15.800 want to expose myself or anybody else. So then someone on Twitter said, 1405 01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:20.199 hey, I just saw your stuff. Really Wow, that's creepy. Yeah, 1406 01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:26.399 that's the creepy. They eventually, like way after the fact, came 1407 01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:28.680 out and said yeah, this was a cashing issue. Yeah, that's that's 1408 01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:32.800 why I bring this up. Because that statement came out. Oh looks like 1409 01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:36.000 five five days later, Yeah, something like that. I mean, granted, 1410 01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:39.239 you know, like you got a breach of this Maggoto, you do 1411 01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:41.680 you want to be damn sure what happened right before you get out there and 1412 01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:45.560 message it. I thought they'd messaged the same day. I remember they posted 1413 01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:47.079 some stuff. Okay, there's like something on this team community that was like 1414 01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:51.039 we're looking into it. But it was like right there, it felt super 1415 01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:54.760 unofficial and slab dash. Well, I think it was enough to kind of 1416 01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:57.239 a lay fears about like oh my account is going to get right right, 1417 01:23:57.359 --> 01:24:01.520 stolen or whatever. But but but they posted a much more thorough breakdown of 1418 01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:03.399 what happened, like I've got it all here in front of me. I 1419 01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:05.119 don't know how much you want to hear, because you're right, it is 1420 01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:11.159 a lot of cashing configuration problem on their web server is that it is some 1421 01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:15.840 you know, it was like people people understandably want answers when something like this 1422 01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:18.159 happens, but then the answers come and there's super mundane. Yeah it's reading 1423 01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:21.239 okay, yep, right, yeah, I know that works. That's the 1424 01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:25.680 extent of it though, like, uh, the extent is that they say 1425 01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:28.800 about thirty four thousand people were affected. That's a lot of people. It 1426 01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:30.760 is a lot of people. You're right. Could anybody actively change anything on 1427 01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:34.479 your account? No? Okay according to them, no. Uh. You 1428 01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:39.159 know, the stuff that Jeff mentioned could be seen, which is what two 1429 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:43.079 digits of credit cards, credit card number, phone, right, I want 1430 01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:47.279 to say it was last four digits of phone and email address. This is 1431 01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:50.840 what I saw. I know other people were probably really reloading different pages and 1432 01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:55.840 maybe they saw some different stuff. But purchase history also purchase history, uh 1433 01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:59.319 and basically like every time you hit one of these pages on the Steam, 1434 01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:01.960 it refresh and give you some random user that was not you, so you 1435 01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:04.119 wouldn't be able to, you know, say hey, I want to see 1436 01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:08.920 this person's stuff. It was just you hit it and this this cashing slot 1437 01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:13.720 machine was pulled and served you up something fun. Uh, And so you 1438 01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:15.399 could see like, oh, this person has a bunch of stuff in their 1439 01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:18.079 Steam wallet and they bought a bunch of fucking visual novels. Who the hell? 1440 01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:23.119 Yeah right, this guy is a weirdo. So yeah, it was. 1441 01:25:23.159 --> 01:25:27.079 It was stuff like that, relatively mundane, but still like email addresses, 1442 01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:30.479 still like stuff that like if you were, let's say, like trying 1443 01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:33.159 to build a case against someone to attack some other account of theirs. This 1444 01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:40.479 this is still information, and information is power. Slutch Dogs too, CTS, 1445 01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:45.680 Steam runs on CTOs Way to go. Uh. This says yeah, 1446 01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:47.359 this says they were actually you know, there was a like a dds thing 1447 01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:50.439 going on. And that's yeah, right, that was the That was the 1448 01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:55.079 maybe the surprising thing there's that they were seeing some kind of attack. It 1449 01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:58.840 wasn't just like a Steam sale hit us hard, right, so ship blew 1450 01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:01.319 up? So but so they actually they proactively deployed some new cashing rules and 1451 01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:05.680 if in response to that ddus and then that's what led to this problem apparently, 1452 01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:10.880 so they were trying to gird the service and instead just kind of crack 1453 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:13.640 it open for a number of people. Learn them. I guess. The 1454 01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:16.039 only other really interesting thing here is that they say that they are working to 1455 01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:20.279 figure out who was affected and then contact them. And I don't know really 1456 01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:26.119 what they would have to say other than sorry, here's some Steam, here's 1457 01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:30.000 here's ten bucks in your Steam wallet or something. Get another code for lift 1458 01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:32.119 for a half life two. You know, it does say as it's some 1459 01:26:32.199 --> 01:26:35.720 Ricochet, right, gay will be online playing Ricochet from four to six. 1460 01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:39.640 But you know they stress in this thing, like you know, there was 1461 01:26:39.680 --> 01:26:42.800 no uh, there was no access on the part of other users to like 1462 01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.680 change your password or get into your account or actually really do any like take 1463 01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:48.640 any actions of any kind. So they say, you know, no additional 1464 01:26:48.680 --> 01:26:53.079 action required on on your part. But still, who do you think got 1465 01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:57.800 the call that Christmas morning? Oh? Boy, that's it was a Christmas. 1466 01:26:57.840 --> 01:26:59.399 It was after a while, maybe it was morning out here. I 1467 01:26:59.439 --> 01:27:02.319 think it was just about the time that you were probably getting good and tipsy 1468 01:27:02.399 --> 01:27:05.560 if you freaking nish or something out here. Okay, eleven or twelve, 1469 01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:10.439 it was getting into the afternoon where I was, Yeah, that's you know, 1470 01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:13.439 that bad time to have to like rush into the office and like engineers 1471 01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:15.399 are on call. Yeah, they always for services like that. They'll come 1472 01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:19.600 up with plans and all sorts of stuff, and indeed they get the page 1473 01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:27.840 and they go fuck. Uh huh yep. Yeah. Indeed, it sounds 1474 01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:30.560 like they were probably already on the case because they were doing something with the 1475 01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:32.720 cashing stuff for this CDOs, So it sounds like maybe they were already they 1476 01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:39.239 had already said fuck hours before. The Valve statement does reference a web services 1477 01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:44.159 partner who yeah, who was responsible for these with these cashing rules, So 1478 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.199 maybe they passed the buck a little bit there. Anyway, that's all ancient 1479 01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:51.840 history. Yep. Do you know what's new? Activision? Body milg Oh 1480 01:27:51.880 --> 01:28:00.279 my god, Major League Gaming Activision is finally in the major leagues, uh 1481 01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:05.279 forty six million dollars. But it seems that that has bought them MLG's assets 1482 01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:10.319 for the most part, Okay, but not necessarily. I why does that 1483 01:28:10.439 --> 01:28:14.079 seem low? I have a I have certain just like not the most thorough 1484 01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:16.039 under like business understanding of a lot of the stuff, but like they've effectively 1485 01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:19.640 bought MLG's assets, but kind of not the corporate infrastructure from what I can 1486 01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:24.960 tell, Like, oh, the Austin dug up a couple of different stories 1487 01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:29.760 on this thing, and one of them characterized this as MLG effectively going out 1488 01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:32.920 of business and selling off its assets to Activision, right, not not Activision 1489 01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:39.039 buying MLG as a going concern that would continue operating as it had been WCW 1490 01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:44.319 yeah more or less. Okay, yeah, yeah, this is you know, 1491 01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:46.840 the Activision bought that StarCraft League a while back or something right, or 1492 01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:50.359 some StarCraft streaming thing, and then it just became like, hey, these 1493 01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:54.800 guys are going to become kind of part of our esports team or Blizzard bottom 1494 01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:59.119 are you know? It was it was ipl wasn't it the im right league? 1495 01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:01.239 Yes? They so they bought that, and then that kind of just 1496 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:04.199 became like the Hey, we're going to figure out how to broadcast stuff, 1497 01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:08.520 and we're a camera crew, and we're this and that and and we're gonna 1498 01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:11.439 start to do things around that. And that became that crew and now they 1499 01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:15.079 have like it's it's what it's Activision, Blizzard Media Networks division of the company 1500 01:29:15.159 --> 01:29:20.520 that is focused on this ship, and so it seems like whatever they do 1501 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:24.479 get from MLG, we'll just fold into this thing. It's a weird thing 1502 01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:28.520 where like one of the guys at Activision that was being quoted for this was 1503 01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:30.920 one of the co founders of MLG, And at some point you're like, 1504 01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:33.359 oh, is he's just bailing out his friends and I really believe also a 1505 01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:38.760 manager at one of the investment firms involved in this transaction. It sounds awesome. 1506 01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:45.720 I don't know America, but the story syst so it forty six million 1507 01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:50.479 doesn't sound like a lot of money, because I feel like everywhere we turn 1508 01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:57.520 now you see analysts and a billion dollars all these people talking about like esports. 1509 01:29:57.640 --> 01:29:59.800 Is this is the year, this is the year esports, this is 1510 01:29:59.840 --> 01:30:01.880 the year. It's gonna be huge esports. And on some level, like 1511 01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:04.119 I'm looking at that and going like, you guys, like esports, it 1512 01:30:04.239 --> 01:30:09.239 was it was the year a couple of years ago, it doesn't you know, 1513 01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:13.920 And it seems like they're counting on esports cracking through to like this more 1514 01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.720 mainstream audience, and I don't see it at all. Yeah, I mean 1515 01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:20.840 ESPN has been kind of taking kind of half hearted stabs at that here and 1516 01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:24.079 there, and it doesn't seem like it's gained a lot of anything. It 1517 01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:26.640 seems like the money is there, you know, sort of like how when 1518 01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:30.439 you know, you know, in every game gets out, what's your esports 1519 01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:32.880 strategy? You know, like everything was like, hey, well, what 1520 01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:34.760 are you doing on iOS? What are you doing for phones? Would you 1521 01:30:34.760 --> 01:30:36.800 have a mobile strategy? What's the going on with this? You know, 1522 01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:42.000 like that was a few years ago. Esports has become that conversation of like, 1523 01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:44.399 hey, if you're starting up an esports thing and it's big, you 1524 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:47.560 might be able to rope a bunch of money in from big mainstream advertisers because 1525 01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:50.600 they've heard the word esports now for about three years and a lot of them 1526 01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:54.119 are like, we want to be a part of this. We understand it's 1527 01:30:54.239 --> 01:31:00.840 very hot. So you have people spinning out websites into separate ets websites and 1528 01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:02.520 trying to make a go of it. You have you know, like people 1529 01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:08.439 trying to get their piece of the esports pie while it's still well, there's 1530 01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:11.840 a bunch of rubes in there right, Like it's crazy how much or how 1531 01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:15.000 often it seems like business decisions are made on this vague notion of like what's 1532 01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:17.760 going to be big and not like like we have actually done like market analysis 1533 01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:23.880 and determined this is like sound strategy, but like more desperately a lot of 1534 01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:26.279 times it seems like this is big right now, we need to get in 1535 01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:30.800 on this while it's still big and then it will is lapse someday and who 1536 01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:33.199 knows. But it is esports like because because I mean, like it depends 1537 01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:36.039 on where you're at, if you are if you are selling things, if 1538 01:31:36.039 --> 01:31:41.880 you are trying to get mainstream advertisers to sponsor stuff. They are interested in 1539 01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:45.039 esports. They have been for a little bit in different pockets and stuff like 1540 01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:47.279 that, but like they've heard it, like I said, they've heard it 1541 01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:51.439 enough times now that like they want to they want it, but they want 1542 01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:56.800 it safe. Which is why the big fighting game community riffed happened a few 1543 01:31:56.880 --> 01:32:02.439 years ago, is because big advertisers don't want real esports. They want clean 1544 01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:06.600 ass, sanitized esports. And that's something that a company like Activision would definitely 1545 01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:11.479 look to perform. It just it seems like like almost across the board, 1546 01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:15.560 like where all the real successes and esports is with the people who also make 1547 01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:17.640 the games in question. You know, it's like totally like Riot runs lcs 1548 01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:21.680 themselves, like like Valve does the International and is now doing the DODA Majors, 1549 01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:27.720 like Blizzard runs you know WCS and seems pretty protective of it, and 1550 01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:30.600 like, yeah, Blizzard is part of Activision and they still even do their 1551 01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:32.920 own thing. Yeah, like I have no esports expert, but MLG seems 1552 01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:38.640 like the sort of thing that just kind of got replaced by it basically the 1553 01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:41.640 companies running their own thing, you know, like they were the need for 1554 01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:47.760 this external independent league just didn't seem like something that had to continue happen, 1555 01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.239 right like to their to their credit, they were the first big name that 1556 01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:53.920 I was aware of, like as I was getting in the competitive StarCraft and 1557 01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:56.159 like I was like and even before that, like that, it's been around, 1558 01:32:56.520 --> 01:32:58.439 Like you're right, that's a very old name. And they you know, 1559 01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:01.039 they did the relatively clever trick of like replicating what is that the NBA 1560 01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:04.359 logo with the controller or whatever, like like even the color treatment of the 1561 01:33:04.439 --> 01:33:08.159 logo says like this is a sports league or yeah, whatever it is. 1562 01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:13.199 But yeah, it fell off very quickly as these companies just kind of like 1563 01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:16.640 consolidated control of their own competitive scenes under their own umbrellas. Right. You 1564 01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:19.039 would hear about like, oh, this is an MLG event happening in Dallas, 1565 01:33:19.159 --> 01:33:21.439 or like, okay, what have they been playing? I don't you 1566 01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:25.399 know, like what, I know that League of Legends runs their own thing. 1567 01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:27.960 I know, the International happens, and they've got their Majors or whatever 1568 01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.960 now too, and you got Capcom Cup and you you know, like stuff 1569 01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:33.960 on the fighting game side that's happening too. But like MLG seemed like a 1570 01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:36.319 league without a country at some point kind of so, I mean, you 1571 01:33:36.359 --> 01:33:38.960 know, a lot of that stuff seems to go all the way back to 1572 01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:41.840 like even like ten years ago, like all the problems that Blizzard was having 1573 01:33:41.880 --> 01:33:45.760 with KeSPA in Korea, sure, like all the feuds there between like well, 1574 01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:47.479 here's the company that makes the game and has like most of the legal 1575 01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:51.479 rights to it, and here's this completely other organization that has very different ideas 1576 01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:56.000 about how this competition should be handled. Yeah, but they had some clout. 1577 01:33:56.560 --> 01:33:58.840 Absolutely, they were like tied into the government and stuff, yea, 1578 01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:01.159 if I'm not mistaken. So, like all that stuff has changed so much 1579 01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:05.079 that it seems like if you're not the people who legally have all the claim 1580 01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:09.119 to the game, like I don't know what room there is for you. 1581 01:34:09.479 --> 01:34:13.039 Yeah. So now some of those people or some of that tech or whatever 1582 01:34:13.079 --> 01:34:15.720 the MLG as is now just rolled up into the same part of Activision that 1583 01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:18.800 that IPL stuff probably rolled too. And what was this is Like it wasn't 1584 01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:21.680 Bobby Kodick out there today like yeah, he's out on Twitter or saying like 1585 01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:25.600 we're making the ESPN of e sports, which like, no, you're not, 1586 01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:29.319 because ESPN covers all fucking sports, right, it's not just the ones 1587 01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:31.600 that they own, Like actually, ESPN already decided that this is a thing, 1588 01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:36.800 right Yeah, And yes, also ESPN is interested in esports coverage to 1589 01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:42.359 some extent. Their appetite I think will fluctuate as the market does. Well. 1590 01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:45.279 I just I like, I wonder what Activision does with this stuff, 1591 01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:48.640 specifically nothing the same stuff they've been doing this, I don't think. I 1592 01:34:48.680 --> 01:34:53.600 don't think that's necessarily like gets them anything. They couldn't have built them. 1593 01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:57.800 So I guess I should say it because I don't know what MLG has in 1594 01:34:57.960 --> 01:35:00.640 terms of unique approach and tech and all this other stuff, like what are 1595 01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:04.600 they actually like what is their their catalog of assets? Is it just like, 1596 01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:09.399 Hey, it's a munch of cameras, some maybe some like we got 1597 01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:14.439 like ten x split licenses and I mean that's at least twenty million, right 1598 01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:16.720 yeah, and a bunch of as much of try casters. You know, 1599 01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:19.439 it's like it is it gear? Is it? You know, like are 1600 01:35:19.479 --> 01:35:23.159 they getting people? Is there no? How? Because I'm sure that there 1601 01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:26.319 are people that have been at MLG for some time now that no Ah thing 1602 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:30.199 or two about broadcast and put on an event like this, So you know, 1603 01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:34.199 if if that expertise is needed in there, then that's value. But 1604 01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:36.399 also Activision has a ton of money right now, so this is you know, 1605 01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:39.359 they could write it all off at some point. This is it's only 1606 01:35:39.439 --> 01:35:42.359 forty six million, is like this drop in the bucket for them? Yes, 1607 01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:44.800 So I hope kind of hope they keep the name. I hope they 1608 01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:47.239 actually try and foster it. And I think they've already, but it seems 1609 01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:50.880 like that's already not I know, really, I know that's the impression help 1610 01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:56.760 that it's not the worst name. It's not like you hear it and immediately 1611 01:35:56.840 --> 01:35:59.600 know what it means. Yeah. Yeah, like there's there's built in recognition 1612 01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:01.800 there though, was a smart play, but it doesn't seem like it really 1613 01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:03.800 paid off in the long term. Yeah, And I just don't know what 1614 01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:05.720 Activision does with it, because, like you said, you know, Blizzard 1615 01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:11.319 already seems to know what the fuck they're doing with this stuff, so they 1616 01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:14.479 seem to already have a firm handle on it, and Blizzards the part of 1617 01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:17.439 that company that has the games that I think makes sense for esports long term. 1618 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:20.800 I mean, you know, they'll they'll shout from the rooftops that Call 1619 01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:25.279 of Duty is a thing. I'll see it. Yeah, I'll see it 1620 01:36:25.279 --> 01:36:27.399 at all. I mean at this point, they're kind of in the phase 1621 01:36:27.479 --> 01:36:29.920 where they just need to keep Call of Duty going anyway they can, right, 1622 01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:31.279 yeah, keep it at the level it's been at. Yeah. Yeah, 1623 01:36:31.279 --> 01:36:33.680 But I just mean as like as like a huge esports thing. I 1624 01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:35.920 mean, I mean, it has its viewers, it has its players. 1625 01:36:35.960 --> 01:36:39.680 I'm not going to say that it's there is no scene or anything dumb like 1626 01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:44.079 that, but you know, you compare it to League, you compare it 1627 01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:47.439 to the esports games they're really fucking blowing up, Like Call of Duty is 1628 01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:51.800 not not one of those games. Yes, and shooters I think generally speaking, 1629 01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:56.319 I don't think can totally with you not just not that entertaining to watch. 1630 01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:58.680 What do you give that Overwatch? You think Overwatch could break through just 1631 01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:02.039 by being colorful or you know, I do see a lot of the people 1632 01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:06.319 who are really serious about that game talking about it in the context of like 1633 01:37:06.520 --> 01:37:10.640 team composition, right encounters and stuff like hard counters. You know, it's 1634 01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:12.479 like, okay, well, and you know, the game even goes out 1635 01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:15.000 of its way to say like, hey, you don't have any healers or 1636 01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:16.119 you don't have any support or engineer people on this team. You know, 1637 01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:18.520 like they straight up say, hey, pick one of these types of characters. 1638 01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:20.920 Yeah, because your team is deficient in that in that aspect. So 1639 01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:26.199 like it could from a like a moba ish kind of standpoint, maybe yeah, 1640 01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:29.720 like a having a metal layer of strategy there could, yeah, kind 1641 01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:31.399 of prop it up like that. But I just wonder it's it's one of 1642 01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:33.279 those things, like, you know, I'd be curious to see, like 1643 01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:39.880 if anyone cares about watching Smite, you know, is there a Smite scene 1644 01:37:40.239 --> 01:37:44.039 that that Smite does Okay? Is my interesting like, like, I'm sure 1645 01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:45.279 that you like, people who play the game seem to really like it and 1646 01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:48.640 and it seems like it is catching on to some extent, But I wonder 1647 01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:53.239 if there's like a viewership there a lasting viewership. Yeah, I know, 1648 01:37:53.319 --> 01:37:55.880 I know they have competitive events. I just don't have any sense of how 1649 01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:59.399 big they are, and they seem pretty successful. I think that I think 1650 01:37:59.439 --> 01:38:02.560 the game does all right, yeah, at least because that seems like, 1651 01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:04.720 you know, it's more actionally, you know, it's it's a more direct 1652 01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:09.720 view than yea, absolutely, and that's what that's what Epic is doing with 1653 01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:14.920 with their new mode and all that stuff. So that stuff is not uh 1654 01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:19.560 run its course yet by any means. Esports, it's not going anybody the 1655 01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:25.239 sports is here. That's been the like maddening thing for me is seeing like 1656 01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:28.960 all the I don't know whatever. We have a different perspective on it because 1657 01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:31.159 you know, it's like it always seems to come like so close, so 1658 01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:34.199 close. Yeah, this is the year. Do you have do you have 1659 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:38.159 a much of a like a passion for this stuff to take off? In 1660 01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:41.279 the fighting game context. I would love to, but you know, as 1661 01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:44.920 Jeff kind of mentioned, I kind of splinter the community a long time ago. 1662 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:45.279 Yeah, but there were there were a lot of like, you know, 1663 01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:48.319 big name sponsors and a lot of players that just wanted the money, 1664 01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:51.159 and there were a lot of people inside the community that are just like, 1665 01:38:51.279 --> 01:38:55.159 no, we like our grassroots, underground shit. Sorry, and it just 1666 01:38:55.319 --> 01:38:57.279 it just got ugly. Do you think you don't think those two things can 1667 01:38:57.319 --> 01:39:00.640 co exist? I don't know how how you make that work. I don't 1668 01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:01.920 know how, Like on paper, it should be easy, right, Yeah, 1669 01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:04.399 it seems I mean, well, I guess I don't follow it as 1670 01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:08.439 closely as I used to because that stuff got so weird and now it just 1671 01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:12.199 seems so splintered. But I feel like, like, are there still just 1672 01:39:12.279 --> 01:39:14.760 people running crazy streams just like, hey, we got our monthly thing, 1673 01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:16.520 we're doing it and we're fucking we're gonna get in this room a play street 1674 01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:19.600 Fighter and oh yeah, like yeah that's a constant, like that's that stream 1675 01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:24.079 scene is still happening. Absolutely, Yeah, there's still Yeah, a majority 1676 01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:27.159 of the even you know, professional players that are that are that are playing 1677 01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:30.680 for big bucks, they do have contracts and stuff. They still run stuff 1678 01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:33.640 from their bedroom, right yeah, yeah, so yeah, the scenes a 1679 01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:36.720 weird fucking thing, and I would I would hope that these guys could get 1680 01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:42.319 their fucking shit together, get on board, turn this up, make it 1681 01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:45.359 big. I don't know, I don't see it happened. This should get 1682 01:39:45.399 --> 01:39:46.359 turned up. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, okay, sit up, 1683 01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:50.960 all right? Uh is this our last story? This point? This 1684 01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:55.479 is our last story. Scale Bound is not coming out this years. Remember 1685 01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:58.520 that game? Okay, yeah, yes I do. It's the dragons, 1686 01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:01.119 dragons and headphones, yes, oh yeah, those are the two essential elements 1687 01:40:01.159 --> 01:40:04.319 of scale down. What's the one with the robot dragons for you gotta take 1688 01:40:04.319 --> 01:40:12.920 off their scales? Horizon? Don's horizon some more like robot the animal dinosaurs 1689 01:40:13.319 --> 01:40:15.000 dinosaur looking well, there was a dinosaur. But there's also like robot elk 1690 01:40:15.079 --> 01:40:18.520 in that game. Yeah, it's weird. Uh no, this is yeah, 1691 01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:24.800 this is just dragons and sunglasses and phones. As you said, dragons 1692 01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:27.560 in high fashion. Yeah, seems to be what's going on in this. 1693 01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:30.720 I mean it's platinum, it's a Platinum game. It's in fact, is 1694 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:33.600 it Commia's personal next game? Like finding does so many games at this point, 1695 01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:35.800 I don't know. Yeah, but he's been out there promoting it a 1696 01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:41.760 lot. We something to look forward to for next year. Yes, I 1697 01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:44.359 guess over the break on Charted got pushed back. Yeah, sou Charted also 1698 01:40:44.399 --> 01:40:45.479 got well, I got pushed back a month to April, so it's not 1699 01:40:45.600 --> 01:40:49.560 any kind of huge, awful delay. Whereas this, you know this, 1700 01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:53.840 a lot of people were taking this as one of the Xbox One's big exclusives 1701 01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:58.439 for the year. Ye will not be coming out so not this year now 1702 01:40:58.680 --> 01:41:02.760 seventeen more interested in seeing what the fuck Crackdown ends up being. Yeah, 1703 01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:06.359 I I wish I could remember where I saw this because it might be a 1704 01:41:06.399 --> 01:41:10.279 bunch of bullshit. But I thought I saw somebody on a forum saying something 1705 01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:16.079 about a listing saying Summer Crackdown tailors thing. It seems likely. That seems 1706 01:41:16.119 --> 01:41:18.239 like a good time for a Crackdown game to come out. I just wonder, 1707 01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:21.640 like, how do you make that game? When open world games have 1708 01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:27.119 been done to death and crazy open world games like the post Crackdown open world 1709 01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:29.760 game. Yes, it's also become a little long in the tooth, like 1710 01:41:29.800 --> 01:41:32.840 everything Crackdown did has been done better since. Yeah, but and Crackdown two 1711 01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:36.119 was disappointing. Yeah, there was something about that first Crackdown game though, 1712 01:41:36.199 --> 01:41:41.720 oh yeah, yes, A huge part of it was jump high. It 1713 01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:43.800 was no you know what it was. It was getting in the car and 1714 01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:46.680 seeing the car transform every time you got into it was pretty good and like 1715 01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:50.000 buffed out, you're like that car. But it also it's all big and 1716 01:41:50.119 --> 01:41:54.800 bouncy and fun looking. Also like jump kicking cars and having them fly across 1717 01:41:54.840 --> 01:41:58.640 the world. Yes, and then the orbs. So I just had a 1718 01:41:58.680 --> 01:42:02.439 curiosity. Do you guys consider that to be a superhero game? Kind of? 1719 01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:08.439 Kind of sort of? I realized everybody's got superpowers, right, but 1720 01:42:08.479 --> 01:42:12.479 it's not like they were in capes, like they're just kind of crime. 1721 01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:15.600 They're just cops. They're just super copy cops. It's a world where all 1722 01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:17.760 cops of SuperCops. I mean, if you're like Pro four is a superhero 1723 01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:23.439 game, they had a super beautiful defining superhero in very specific context of comic 1724 01:42:23.479 --> 01:42:28.439 books than though. I mean that traditionally Saints four took place inside a computer. 1725 01:42:28.560 --> 01:42:30.800 That's there's no superpower there, that's just space. It could all happen 1726 01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:38.560 four that's actually a time travel though right also can be done also real. 1727 01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:45.079 Yeah, okay, indeed, anyway, uh see you next year, scale 1728 01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:49.880 down maybe if we all live that long. All right, I think this 1729 01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:54.439 is the part where we talk about emails. Read some emails out of the 1730 01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:58.279 inbox. Now, are these like emails that people sent in and like more 1731 01:42:58.319 --> 01:43:00.439 of that tumbler stuff. I mean that's hanging around. We were here for 1732 01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:04.239 that. I didn't listen to that podcast stuff. Okay, Well some buch 1733 01:43:04.239 --> 01:43:06.600 stuff worked out. Okay, I should I should have signed into that count 1734 01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:11.199 before we started this. But we'll get there. Okay. Maybe first we 1735 01:43:11.279 --> 01:43:14.079 will read some emails that were sent to BombCast to giant bomb dot com. 1736 01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:16.079 I think I might be signed it too, that accunt of my laptopic. 1737 01:43:16.199 --> 01:43:20.279 Yeah, okay, if if time allows, go ahead, okay, all 1738 01:43:20.359 --> 01:43:24.760 right, first email Mark and Rhode Island. It's writing in about game of 1739 01:43:24.800 --> 01:43:27.479 the Year. Hey guys, I had an idea for a new end of 1740 01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:30.239 the year award category game that hasn't won an award but should have. What 1741 01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:33.800 do you think like by the end of it, as we tally everything up, 1742 01:43:33.840 --> 01:43:39.840 it's like bonus award. Yeah kind of this I mostly pulled this email 1743 01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:42.800 in here because it reminded me that we should have had the best game that 1744 01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:45.239 nobody played. I liked that category. Yeah, I would have served some 1745 01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:49.960 real purpose this year as well. I probably would have pushed for City Skylines 1746 01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:53.600 in that category, even though a lot of us played it a little bit. 1747 01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:55.640 Nobody played it here a lot. I think Witcher would have won that 1748 01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:58.680 category, but enough of us played too much of that I feel like for 1749 01:43:58.760 --> 01:44:00.159 that game to make it sense that category. Yeah, maybe you're right, 1750 01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:04.600 Like I played fifty hours of The Wincher three. I don't know I read 1751 01:44:04.640 --> 01:44:08.560 on the internet. You you didn't play it at all? Obviously none of 1752 01:44:08.640 --> 01:44:14.000 us didn't everything you read on the internet. I don't know. There's lots 1753 01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:15.880 of stuff that I didn't get to. But yeah, I mean, you 1754 01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:19.239 know, it's just it's the the shitty nature of the year in the wards. 1755 01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:24.600 Nobody can play everything like, there's no way for that process to be 1756 01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:29.880 comprehensive. It is why the process is so exposed, Yeah, and so 1757 01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:35.640 transparent. Right, It's not necessarily meant to be like the fucking end all 1758 01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:40.840 be all of all video games. I think it just came out our number 1759 01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:43.359 anyway, Basically, what I'm saying is any outlet that didn't choose the same 1760 01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:46.680 number one game as we did, it's fucking wrong. But but beyond that, 1761 01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:51.760 what are you gonna do? You know, we have we have fun 1762 01:44:51.840 --> 01:44:56.920 around here. It's it's as subjective and ridiculous as it possible. Yeah, 1763 01:44:56.960 --> 01:45:00.239 it's a it's a long it's a set of long conversations meant to draw out 1764 01:45:00.319 --> 01:45:03.560 a lot of talks about games, and often the games that get talked about 1765 01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:06.319 the most don't win anything. And that's fine. We are saying our piece 1766 01:45:06.359 --> 01:45:11.840 about these games, and the awards are just a framework for those those discussions. 1767 01:45:11.920 --> 01:45:14.199 Yeah. Then you know, if the fact that we haven't all finished 1768 01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:17.720 which or three validates our awards, that's totally the prerogative of yeah, any 1769 01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:24.439 listener. Yeah, but again, our number one pick is the right pick. 1770 01:45:24.520 --> 01:45:29.000 Old spoil it in case people haven't listened. Yes, objectively, yep, 1771 01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:31.039 there's no You couldn't be more wrong. But you know, there's there's 1772 01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:36.800 like zero listen, the games that compete with it is a list of zero 1773 01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:41.680 games. There are no games. Correct. I'm not sure how it made 1774 01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:44.119 it on the list, but it did, and it somehow got number one. 1775 01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:45.119 I think we all wanted to go home. That is how it all 1776 01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:48.039 isn't made it on the list. That's I ran out of juice. I 1777 01:45:48.159 --> 01:45:50.520 was just like, it was a long week. I don't know what happened, 1778 01:45:50.560 --> 01:45:54.079 and we still had to move at that point, and watching Jeff cleverly 1779 01:45:54.199 --> 01:45:57.159 manipulate that game all the way up to the top, that was the thing. 1780 01:45:57.560 --> 01:45:59.680 You don't have to manipulate the game. That game rises to the top 1781 01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:03.640 manipulating anything. The truth just happens, the truth, that beauty is truth. 1782 01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:08.239 I respect that game a great deal. It's not what I would have 1783 01:46:08.319 --> 01:46:15.279 chosen. Ethan writes in I'm twenty three after the Saint's Row was better than 1784 01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:20.159 fucking Skyrim two truth, Ethan says, I'm twenty three after everyone freaking out 1785 01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:23.720 about man Eater on the Game of the Year show. I listened to it. 1786 01:46:24.199 --> 01:46:26.600 Can you explain why it's a big deal? Was this an eighties thing 1787 01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:29.720 that I won't understand? Dope song? Look, man, if you, 1788 01:46:30.439 --> 01:46:33.560 if you, if you listen to some of the holler Notes catalog, some 1789 01:46:33.680 --> 01:46:38.239 of the singles, just the greatest hits. Yeah, I can't go for 1790 01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:41.319 that. If yeah, if you, if you listen just like, dude. 1791 01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:44.000 Yeah, if you if you steep yourself in which if you listen to 1792 01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:46.600 Yes, if you get into those songs and you don't feel anything, it's 1793 01:46:46.640 --> 01:46:49.840 because you're already dead man. Yeah, seriously, if you if you can 1794 01:46:49.880 --> 01:46:53.359 steep yourself in the glory of all of notes and not feel it that, 1795 01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:57.439 I don't know what to tell you. Darryl Hall was having an affair with 1796 01:46:57.560 --> 01:47:00.600 somebody in my hometown. What you will into town? Wait? Would he 1797 01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:03.159 live stream that from his weird concert place? I didn't know. How did 1798 01:47:03.199 --> 01:47:05.800 you know he was in town? You would see him, you could? 1799 01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:09.760 You just would just like to see him walking around, uh, at like 1800 01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:14.039 a bar? What? Yeah, you're saying you saw him at a bar? 1801 01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:17.680 He had a mistress. That's weird. Okay, all right my hometown? 1802 01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:24.479 Yes, awesome, private eyes you were the private eyes in that case. 1803 01:47:26.560 --> 01:47:30.479 Watching your ever move uh parent from Newcastle in England. Jeff, how's 1804 01:47:30.520 --> 01:47:33.479 that lifetime sub to star Trek online working out? Do you feel like you'll 1805 01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:36.159 get a lifetime of memories out of it? I figured like it was a 1806 01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:41.439 good time to check in. It's great as the fiftieth anniversary of Star Trek 1807 01:47:41.479 --> 01:47:44.600 approaches. Yeah, I have not played it lately, and I could at 1808 01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:47.079 any moment, and now that it's free to play, and they have given 1809 01:47:47.159 --> 01:47:49.800 me my like, I get a lot. I get a stipend from them 1810 01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:55.479 of fun premium currency every month that I could choose to use on whatever I 1811 01:47:55.560 --> 01:48:00.680 want. What's the currency called Tonight World CC's I don't know, don't dilithium, 1812 01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:06.279 cold, gold Press latinum. Yeah, uh yeah, there's a lot 1813 01:48:06.319 --> 01:48:09.920 of Star Trek Online that I'm not playing. And it's great. It's working 1814 01:48:09.960 --> 01:48:14.880 out great, it's working out fucking perfect. I've gotten an infinite amount of 1815 01:48:14.920 --> 01:48:18.520 money back from that thing in its own weird way. Is there any think 1816 01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:21.560 of the savings? Yeah, totally. Is there any way you could move 1817 01:48:21.640 --> 01:48:27.560 the currency that they're giving you? Oh? Just what like like like started 1818 01:48:28.119 --> 01:48:33.000 off count? You know, I have to imagine as a as a lifetime 1819 01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:38.279 subscriber, you have to be like the vast of VIP right in their eyes. 1820 01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:41.760 So I assume you just get everything that you could possibly get in that 1821 01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:44.600 game. I mean, I don't think it's enough to buy every single micro 1822 01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:47.119 transaction based thing they've put in that game. But how much was this again? 1823 01:48:47.680 --> 01:48:51.479 Three hundred dollars up? Front. Before the game came out for a 1824 01:48:51.560 --> 01:48:54.920 game that it wasn't, they were charging a monthly fee to play it. 1825 01:48:55.119 --> 01:48:58.319 Yeah, this was way before every one. So if you do the math 1826 01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:02.840 on like what the monthly fee was and my propensity to accidentally stay subscribed to 1827 01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:08.479 games, I saved quite a bit of money buying the lifetime subscription to Star 1828 01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:11.039 Trek Online and then you never had to cancel it. No, I never 1829 01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:13.079 had to cancel it and I never had to play it, and it was 1830 01:49:13.119 --> 01:49:15.399 still worked out in my favor. Speaking of for getting the canceled Jason, 1831 01:49:15.439 --> 01:49:19.039 do you so have you? Actually I don't. And it was like a 1832 01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:24.560 fucking week before they announced like Star Wars Battlefront, and I'm like, oh 1833 01:49:24.600 --> 01:49:28.800 shit, I wanted to play that, and now it I canceled mine as 1834 01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:31.600 well. I signed I think Battlefield Hardline. We wanted to do a quick 1835 01:49:31.640 --> 01:49:35.239 look of that. I needed it. So it is canceled, though you 1836 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:38.439 canceled it right before it would have been useful. I signed it for a 1837 01:49:38.560 --> 01:49:42.680 year of it, and I think it was still working. When Need for 1838 01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:44.960 Speed came out, I was still able to play that one, even though 1839 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:47.119 I'd already canceled. It was still ticking out the time or whatever it was. 1840 01:49:47.239 --> 01:49:53.000 I should have tried to download it. Maybe I've been a lot of 1841 01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:57.640 money for it. Yeah, I mean whatever I had. I've had the 1842 01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:00.479 same movie from Netflix out for like a year at a time. Time before 1843 01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:02.359 that happens. Yeah, that's like when we had those game fly accounts, 1844 01:50:02.479 --> 01:50:05.119 Like game Spot had a deal with game Fly and they got us a bunch 1845 01:50:05.159 --> 01:50:09.800 of free game man then that comp gamepl account was the best. It was 1846 01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:12.520 the best because you just kept a game forever and you didn't have to care. 1847 01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:16.119 Oh that's been gone for years. That was such a Yeah. The 1848 01:50:16.199 --> 01:50:19.479 dude who hooked those up is long gone. Yeah, I don't know. 1849 01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:24.359 Speaking of space and MMOs, anybody have a hankering to get back into like 1850 01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:28.479 old Republic? No free to play. No. But I like, weirdly 1851 01:50:28.800 --> 01:50:32.039 see I very consistently see people talk about the public. Are they adding like 1852 01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:35.439 Force Awakens stuff to it? Added they just added like they added new story 1853 01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:39.319 stuff. That's that thing for me. Free I mean, I mentioned he 1854 01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:41.359 three because it's the last time I saw any of this. But the thing 1855 01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:45.439 with the two twins, like the twin Jedi, like maybe one of them 1856 01:50:45.479 --> 01:50:46.239 is good and one of them is bad. I don't know how that worked 1857 01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:50.079 anyway, that that whole big add on is a dark side, I guess, 1858 01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:55.520 no twins duality. That whole that whole content add on made its way 1859 01:50:55.560 --> 01:50:57.840 into the game a month or two ago, I think, or some number 1860 01:50:57.840 --> 01:51:00.439 of months. But anyway, like I ken quite quietly hearing that game is 1861 01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:05.359 doing extremely well. Yeah, but I can't back that up, but there 1862 01:51:05.439 --> 01:51:12.920 have it that launched. That game was fun for being okay, like you 1863 01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:15.600 know, the way they did the story stuff was not always perfect, but 1864 01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:21.079 it was different from what other MMOs were doing. And I enjoyed my one 1865 01:51:21.159 --> 01:51:25.520 hundred hours with it and then stopped, and then was happy that I stopped. 1866 01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:28.680 That's right, you did play a lot of those good remember that it 1867 01:51:28.760 --> 01:51:30.079 was all right That I hit a play with it where it's like, oh, 1868 01:51:30.119 --> 01:51:33.119 this actually isn't actually fun anymore. Like you hit a planet where it's 1869 01:51:33.119 --> 01:51:35.520 like, oh, soloing is way harder now all of a sudden, and 1870 01:51:35.720 --> 01:51:39.840 I'm not going to team up with people and the content is kind of boring 1871 01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:43.439 now, And then I hadn't never finished my characters arc, but yeah, 1872 01:51:43.640 --> 01:51:46.880 thats all right. Also, speaking of space and MMOs, I reinstalled Fantasy 1873 01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:50.880 Star Online over the break, So the stack servers the done. They got 1874 01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:55.600 like a bunch of new servers that can Yeah, it's way what logging in 1875 01:51:55.640 --> 01:51:59.760 the page. There still servers clients, they're not official officials, but it's 1876 01:52:00.159 --> 01:52:01.920 super easy to just make an account on the site, download the client, 1877 01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:08.960 down burst and go. It sounds all right like turn around time. It 1878 01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:12.319 was like ten minutes. It's like a foreigner make file. I make an 1879 01:52:12.319 --> 01:52:15.880 account, fucking log in and your plan, send me what servers or whatever 1880 01:52:15.920 --> 01:52:18.920 you're on and I might download that stuff and get back into that. We 1881 01:52:18.920 --> 01:52:23.640 should think about it. Did they have they are? The servers are there? 1882 01:52:23.680 --> 01:52:27.039 The servers that are running just running kind of core standard code and standard 1883 01:52:27.119 --> 01:52:30.920 level up sers and like hey maybe instant leave. No, it's nothing quite 1884 01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:32.600 that crazy. Anything like the Ultimus server or something like that, which is 1885 01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:36.680 the most popular one, has increased like drop rates and experience rates and stuff 1886 01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:40.359 like that. So that's a little fast tracked. But there's another one that 1887 01:52:40.520 --> 01:52:44.199 is just pretty much vanilla like bluebirsts, which is all that I want to 1888 01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:46.960 plan. Yeah, but they also have like PSOs two style item drops, 1889 01:52:47.039 --> 01:52:50.199 so like whatever drops is just for you, so you don't have to worry 1890 01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:54.600 about anybody else. Pick it up your ship. It's kind of cool. 1891 01:52:55.159 --> 01:52:59.439 It's kind of huh, all right, it's really cool. I patched PSO 1892 01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:01.840 two over the break but did not launch it. Oh yeah, it's a 1893 01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:04.159 pain in the ass. Like there has been a couple launchers that I've like 1894 01:53:04.279 --> 01:53:09.279 downloaded for that game that have given me some spywear. Really yeah, there's 1895 01:53:09.359 --> 01:53:12.119 some Yeah, there's sketches stuck going on with that, some weird stuff around 1896 01:53:12.199 --> 01:53:15.199 around that game, but they are that game's coming to PS four, Yeah, 1897 01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:18.600 announced that over the break as well. I think PSO two is coming 1898 01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:26.720 to PS four in Japan for about the Verse, and there's a new episode 1899 01:53:26.760 --> 01:53:30.800 coming out that is set on Earth. Uh so you're running around Tokyo shooting 1900 01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:35.640 zombies or something. I don't know. I'm in and there's an anime yep 1901 01:53:35.720 --> 01:53:40.760 and it sounds like the animates will come to the US. Ultimate fucking slap 1902 01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:45.880 to the face. Good stuff, all right, Sean and Montreal has a 1903 01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:50.880 question for Jeff, but I guess anyone could chime in. How do arcades 1904 01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:54.680 make money? So many games were designed to et quarters, but what was 1905 01:53:54.720 --> 01:53:57.880 the actual profit distribution. Did the money earned go back to the company that 1906 01:53:57.960 --> 01:54:00.840 made the game? Did arcades get a percent of Happy Holidays and looking forward 1907 01:54:00.840 --> 01:54:03.880 to more? In twenty sixteen? A lot of that stuff was rented, 1908 01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:09.960 wasn't but a lot were really purchased straight out. Yeah, I always assumed 1909 01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:13.319 the operators had to just buy the machines. Well, I don't know what 1910 01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:16.279 split the split was. Yeah, some some places are operator run and then 1911 01:54:16.399 --> 01:54:20.760 some locations are run by distributors. So I know a guy who runs like 1912 01:54:20.880 --> 01:54:25.439 a a distribution. I assume he still does, but you know, he 1913 01:54:25.560 --> 01:54:29.079 was doing he had locations. So he's like this laundromat's mind, this movie 1914 01:54:29.119 --> 01:54:31.039 theater's mind, this stuff is mine. So he owned all the machines. 1915 01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:33.760 He went to the business and said, I want to be the guy that 1916 01:54:33.840 --> 01:54:36.159 runs the arcade machines. I'll take care of all the upkeep, I'll clean 1917 01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:40.760 all the quarters out. You just get it cut and so you know. 1918 01:54:40.840 --> 01:54:43.119 So then they split it with the movie theater chain, and they split it 1919 01:54:43.159 --> 01:54:45.760 with the laundromat or whatever it is. Wow, I did not I totally 1920 01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:49.359 thought the question or answered the question was just a flat like they bought the 1921 01:54:49.359 --> 01:54:55.319 machines and kept the money across the board. I didn't realize that the local 1922 01:54:55.439 --> 01:54:59.319 arcade in my town actually ran most of the locations around town also when it 1923 01:54:59.399 --> 01:55:01.279 was still open. So they did, and even after they closed the arcade, 1924 01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:04.840 they were still running locations. So like laundromats, you'd see their logo 1925 01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:08.239 on the machines, you know, Oh wow, operate I owned it, 1926 01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:14.079 operated by so and so. Yeah, okay, I guess that that whole 1927 01:55:14.119 --> 01:55:15.199 business model is kind of a thing in the past, though at this point, 1928 01:55:15.319 --> 01:55:17.399 right, I mean, more or less, I have to imagine like, 1929 01:55:17.479 --> 01:55:20.560 oh, you know, all the barcades springing up, and they're probably 1930 01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:25.760 areas are buying buying old classic machines out right and stuff like that. Like 1931 01:55:27.039 --> 01:55:30.640 that stuff is kind of it's not the main way that they're making money. 1932 01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:34.039 Yes, well, yes, also that, but but at least they owned 1933 01:55:34.039 --> 01:55:39.439 the machines right themselves, so when they get covered and booze, they're the 1934 01:55:39.479 --> 01:55:42.680 ones that have to fix them. Yeah, it sounds terrible, Yes, 1935 01:55:43.319 --> 01:55:46.319 I agree. At least it's not a bunch of fucking just Golden Tea machines 1936 01:55:46.359 --> 01:55:49.119 though, like Golden Tea and Big Buck Hunter. You're gonna say, at 1937 01:55:49.159 --> 01:55:51.680 least it's not a pizza place, and kids are just smearing pizza all over 1938 01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:56.319 the machines, which I guess is worse, But I spent enough time as 1939 01:55:56.359 --> 01:55:59.239 a kid eating pizza and playing arcade machines in the same Yeah, but you 1940 01:55:59.319 --> 01:56:03.000 had a fucking that much for the craft. That golden stuff is still huge 1941 01:56:03.039 --> 01:56:09.000 though. Oh yeah, goddamn well that that there was that Big buck Hunter 1942 01:56:09.199 --> 01:56:12.920 World Tournament live stream was running a while back, months ago. They live 1943 01:56:12.960 --> 01:56:15.359 stream. It was live stream from a bar, and like every part about 1944 01:56:15.439 --> 01:56:18.960 it was the sleaziest, most fucked up of just like, here's a bunch 1945 01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:23.359 of drunks playing Big buck Hunter and apparently they're the best in the world at 1946 01:56:23.439 --> 01:56:26.680 all, and they have sponsors, Like who would sponsor the buck Hunter? 1947 01:56:27.119 --> 01:56:29.359 That's it? Just some beer? I think, I don't know. I 1948 01:56:29.399 --> 01:56:30.960 think they did have a sponsor or two. But then at one point there 1949 01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:36.000 was a guy on commentary that had to be replaced. Wow, little it 1950 01:56:36.079 --> 01:56:39.000 was like a fighting game stream. It was. It was literally like at 1951 01:56:39.039 --> 01:56:40.680 some point they're like, we got to get this guy off of here. 1952 01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:43.960 And then fucking came back from break and it was like that dude was gone. 1953 01:56:44.119 --> 01:56:51.520 Is he just too drunk, sure, okay, two drunk. Yeah, 1954 01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:56.399 there was some stuff that dude, Yeah lovely, Yeah, like every 1955 01:56:56.520 --> 01:56:59.720 like it was awesome. Yeah. Yeah, it's about what you would expect, 1956 01:57:00.159 --> 01:57:01.479 Like, you know, like every time I saw a Golden Team machine 1957 01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:04.079 for the last like ten years or whatever, you would see like a little 1958 01:57:04.119 --> 01:57:09.039 movie clip of the previous years, like tournament winner playing the game we're posing 1959 01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:11.760 with, and those things are all hooked up to the internet that will just 1960 01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:14.880 up. Yeah. Wow, Well it wouldn't necessarily update. You have to 1961 01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:17.279 pay to probably you know, upgrade machine to the latest year or something, 1962 01:57:17.439 --> 01:57:20.439 but you know, for tournaments and stuff like that, all that stuff got 1963 01:57:21.039 --> 01:57:25.920 uploaded. Yeah, a lot of those games are now starting to be emulated 1964 01:57:25.960 --> 01:57:29.840 in Mayme, so you actually get to boot them up and see like the 1965 01:57:30.359 --> 01:57:32.479 it stuff doesn't connect, but like it starts to make the network callouts to 1966 01:57:32.520 --> 01:57:34.800 try to connect to some server and you're like, oh, man, arcade 1967 01:57:34.840 --> 01:57:41.520 machines got weird. At some point, wave net was everywhere, have you 1968 01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:45.239 speaking of? Which, So we've moved floors and now we sit much closer 1969 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:48.720 to where the arcade machines are. Oh and they're loud. You're gonna get 1970 01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:53.560 some some Putton silencers in there and silence some of that stuff. But the 1971 01:57:53.680 --> 01:57:57.079 coolest fucking thing. Have you watched the techn machines boot up? We have 1972 01:57:57.159 --> 01:58:02.239 techn Tag two and Teken six Boodline Revolution, and when you boot them up, 1973 01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:05.720 the fucking p S three XMB appears and it fucking launches the game. 1974 01:58:05.840 --> 01:58:13.119 Oh weird, it's real crazy, it's super weird. Huh. Wasn't that 1975 01:58:13.159 --> 01:58:16.279 Bloodline? Is that retribution thing PSP exclusive? Uh? No, No, 1976 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:20.239 that was an arcade upgrade that for home versions only came to Okay, so 1977 01:58:20.279 --> 01:58:25.159 there was never like a console version of that outside of Vita or No. 1978 01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:28.000 What Tech and What came out as Tech and six? I think you're thinking 1979 01:58:28.039 --> 01:58:32.720 of five, the one that introduced the Lily and the like zombie. H 1980 01:58:33.119 --> 01:58:36.119 mean this guy? So yeah, yeah, I thought that was just the 1981 01:58:36.279 --> 01:58:41.600 PSP exclusive thing. So all that stuff came to arcades, but it was 1982 01:58:41.840 --> 01:58:45.199 when it came home in some cases, like the upgrade version only came to 1983 01:58:45.479 --> 01:58:47.840 like PSP, there was some version of Tech and five, but for six, 1984 01:58:47.960 --> 01:58:50.319 by the time six came out at home, they had already put out 1985 01:58:50.399 --> 01:58:55.000 Bloodline Rebellion, I think is what it was called. So all the home 1986 01:58:55.159 --> 01:58:58.960 version of six had that in it already. Same will be true for seven. 1987 01:58:59.720 --> 01:59:04.079 They announced the version that has a Kuma in it and which they are 1988 01:59:04.159 --> 01:59:06.720 fucking weaving into the Tech and storyline by the way, and you know, 1989 01:59:06.920 --> 01:59:11.199 like a really a very real way, did he climb out of a volcano? 1990 01:59:11.239 --> 01:59:15.159 It makes a kuma the reason for the devil gene like it is like, 1991 01:59:15.560 --> 01:59:18.279 like it is that's cannon that it sounds like, I don't know it 1992 01:59:18.399 --> 01:59:23.239 is now. Yeah. So so that update for Tech and seven is in 1993 01:59:23.319 --> 01:59:26.279 the works and we'll be out at some point this year, and the home 1994 01:59:26.439 --> 01:59:30.079 versions of Tech and seven will have that update. Day one. They gets 1995 01:59:30.119 --> 01:59:32.039 like a working on tecond versus Street Fighters. They're like, right, yeah, 1996 01:59:32.760 --> 01:59:35.640 one screen shot they released six years ago. Yeah, they've since moved 1997 01:59:35.680 --> 01:59:42.600 on to make a character. And then they continue to say that they are 1998 01:59:42.680 --> 01:59:46.760 still making that game someday coming in twenty forty. Yeah, when they get 1999 01:59:46.760 --> 01:59:49.079 the rest of the characters done, So they do both of those second cabs 2000 01:59:49.119 --> 01:59:51.279 boot up to the PS Yeah, I think so. Really, I don't 2001 01:59:51.279 --> 01:59:54.840 even know where those things came from, Like everything else sent them, oh 2002 01:59:55.000 --> 01:59:57.840 like recently, No, when those games came out, they okay, they've 2003 01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:00.880 they've been in the building. Well, yeah, the machines on the three 2004 02:00:01.000 --> 02:00:03.560 were all spread all over the place. Now, one of the joysticks on 2005 02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:08.479 that machine. Those fucked up. You completely sucked up. We had one 2006 02:00:08.520 --> 02:00:11.359 over at GI and it didn't I did that same PS three thing, you 2007 02:00:11.520 --> 02:00:15.640 really, the the tech and the one with that Lily girl on the art, 2008 02:00:15.159 --> 02:00:18.279 that one booted up to the X and B. Yeah, I'm okay, 2009 02:00:18.439 --> 02:00:20.720 I'm pretty sure I don't remember that. I don't seen a lot of 2010 02:00:24.159 --> 02:00:26.640 Oh that was a straight up PS three. Yeah, that's three in a 2011 02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:29.680 box. Yeah, oh that one is. Yeah, it's not a real 2012 02:00:29.760 --> 02:00:31.760 arcade machine. Okay, is not a real cabinet either. Yeah, that 2013 02:00:31.840 --> 02:00:38.159 thing is a boy oh boy, oh boy. Yep, all right. 2014 02:00:38.279 --> 02:00:42.000 Zach from Indiana has an email. I'm not sure if you've already been turned 2015 02:00:42.039 --> 02:00:45.000 onto this somehow, but there's a newly formed video game themed boy band parody 2016 02:00:45.079 --> 02:00:50.439 out there going by the moniker of Big Bad Bosses or B three. Their 2017 02:00:50.479 --> 02:00:55.119 debut album was just this past weekend. On it lis a song called Bears 2018 02:00:55.159 --> 02:01:00.640 and Birds. It features none other than Grant kirk Hope himself rapping about how 2019 02:01:00.680 --> 02:01:03.520 great he really is going so far as to call himself the twerque pope. 2020 02:01:03.960 --> 02:01:08.640 What need I say more? It is U sort of not say for work 2021 02:01:10.000 --> 02:01:14.760 play it that can't be you should probably probably you've probably googled Big Bad Bosses 2022 02:01:14.800 --> 02:01:19.399 and see what comes up. But mostly I just wanted to read this email 2023 02:01:20.159 --> 02:01:25.840 so I could ask where is David Wise's Big Bad boy band parody out? 2024 02:01:26.600 --> 02:01:32.960 Exactly? I mean, seriously, I don't feel good about this snow, 2025 02:01:34.960 --> 02:01:38.079 all right, I feel better about it now that there's Mode of Noises. 2026 02:01:40.279 --> 02:02:08.840 All right, that's not Grant kurk Hope. Well that's they're not saying that 2027 02:02:09.159 --> 02:02:12.920 it's a boy band. That Apparently kirk Hope is doing a verse, so 2028 02:02:13.079 --> 02:02:15.960 he does a rap. Okay, the comments I'll tell you where to go 2029 02:02:16.039 --> 02:02:20.279 too. Then this song might not be Bears and No No, this is 2030 02:02:20.479 --> 02:02:24.279 yeah. How many views do we have? Bears and Birds is the name 2031 02:02:24.279 --> 02:02:26.840 of the song. That's that's the kirk Hope song. Okay, how many 2032 02:02:26.920 --> 02:02:32.760 views do we have? It's two hundred eighty five thousand, hm and Bosses 2033 02:02:32.960 --> 02:02:39.800 head Bears Birds, So grand kur kirk Hope was thanked on this. Uh, 2034 02:02:40.640 --> 02:02:44.239 thanks for all you do, all right. They're on band camp thanks 2035 02:02:44.279 --> 02:02:50.079 for being you. Okay, yeah, that sounds that's right. Yeah, 2036 02:02:59.119 --> 02:03:02.920 I can't, yep, let it go. It's not the Midnightties anymore. 2037 02:03:04.399 --> 02:03:12.119 I can't. As someone who has generated novelty rap in the past. Yeah, 2038 02:03:12.840 --> 02:03:16.560 I have a pretty high tolerance for it. Yeah, it's about all 2039 02:03:16.560 --> 02:03:18.760 you got. And I might even go so far as to say I am 2040 02:03:18.840 --> 02:03:24.960 not one to talk, but sure I can't too much. I can't. 2041 02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:30.239 It's probably fine, but I can't hear it, not now. I'm not 2042 02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:33.640 ready. Maybe not ever, maybe not ever. All right, we'll get 2043 02:03:33.640 --> 02:03:39.079 back to that perhaps, uh Leo and Minneapolis writes in an email that suggests 2044 02:03:39.079 --> 02:03:44.760 you guys talked about bananas at some points, always possible. Briefly Okay, 2045 02:03:44.840 --> 02:03:46.279 I said Dan was opening him Oh you know, actually he says that right 2046 02:03:46.279 --> 02:03:49.319 here at the beginning of the email. Ok you guys briefly debated last podcast 2047 02:03:49.359 --> 02:03:53.279 about opening a banana from the top or the bottom. Right, Okay, 2048 02:03:53.520 --> 02:03:56.439 that's starting to come back. I thought i'd share with you a banana hack 2049 02:03:56.560 --> 02:04:00.039 I learned. God damn it, let's hear it. If you grip of 2050 02:04:00.079 --> 02:04:02.920 the banana horizontally with both hands and twist it forward and backward. The peel 2051 02:04:03.000 --> 02:04:08.239 splits before you hit ninety degrees, and you can remove the full, unharmed 2052 02:04:08.279 --> 02:04:11.720 banana with ease. I feel like that's got to be a pretty delicate though. 2053 02:04:11.760 --> 02:04:14.640 I think if you go just maybe like a few millimeters in the wrong 2054 02:04:14.680 --> 02:04:16.359 direction, you've got a mangle banana. You just you know, go by 2055 02:04:16.399 --> 02:04:19.600 feel you got the top thing right there, just crack it off and got 2056 02:04:19.640 --> 02:04:25.279 bad. Who's having a problem fucking opening a banana from the top, Like, 2057 02:04:25.319 --> 02:04:26.960 who's like, oh, this is so difficult, Like, no, 2058 02:04:27.039 --> 02:04:30.359 it's fucking basic an oriente. It's a banana. Yea, what if there's 2059 02:04:30.359 --> 02:04:33.880 a better way. But if there's a way that removes those gross fucking strings 2060 02:04:33.960 --> 02:04:38.560 from it, that's can't taste them, that's supposed to be the appeal of 2061 02:04:38.600 --> 02:04:41.119 opening it from the bottom. Everybody said that the strings all just come off. 2062 02:04:41.159 --> 02:04:45.920 I get no strings. I didn't, but I get that little discolored 2063 02:04:45.079 --> 02:04:49.640 like ass end little nubs that right in the track, a little black spine 2064 02:04:49.760 --> 02:04:53.279 thing. I know. People say that you can eat the black parts of 2065 02:04:53.279 --> 02:04:58.000 banana, but no things ever. Yeah, I bite it off like a 2066 02:04:58.079 --> 02:05:00.239 cigar and then I spit it up, bite part of the peel. No, 2067 02:05:00.439 --> 02:05:03.199 not the peel oh, the black part. Yeah, just turn it 2068 02:05:03.239 --> 02:05:06.600 away and then I spit it out. Hey, I was saying before I 2069 02:05:06.640 --> 02:05:09.560 went on there. The way to do it. Put a banana in the 2070 02:05:09.600 --> 02:05:12.239 blender, make a little mush thing, and then use that spread it on 2071 02:05:12.319 --> 02:05:15.880 your peanut butter sandwich. I wouldn't put some bacon on it. It's it's 2072 02:05:15.000 --> 02:05:17.920 incredible. That's what I've been having almost daily throughout the break. I'll do 2073 02:05:18.039 --> 02:05:20.600 that with my baby because they didn't have teeth. I don't. I don't 2074 02:05:20.600 --> 02:05:24.239 want to. I don't want to do that. Don't want to do that. 2075 02:05:24.359 --> 02:05:27.520 So I don't want good enough for Elvis. I don't want Yeah, 2076 02:05:27.680 --> 02:05:33.159 I don't want banana paste, so weird paste. Yeah, So what's this 2077 02:05:33.239 --> 02:05:35.960 new method? You hold it like a vulture a bunch of pain killers, 2078 02:05:36.039 --> 02:05:40.560 sprinkle it into the peanut butter. Shoot your TV. Yeah I like that, 2079 02:05:40.840 --> 02:05:44.000 you know, Elvis? Shit, Yes, you hold the hold the 2080 02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:47.359 banana sideways and twisted side side Oh and twists, yes, twist back and 2081 02:05:47.439 --> 02:05:50.359 forth. That's you're giving someone a rug delicately. No, I don't know. 2082 02:05:50.399 --> 02:05:55.199 That's what he says. Snake bite, he said, burn, Yeah, 2083 02:05:55.479 --> 02:05:58.680 snake, You've never this thing yeah, yeah, yeah, snake bite. 2084 02:05:58.800 --> 02:06:02.479 It's a rug burn. Uh, no burns what you get on your 2085 02:06:02.560 --> 02:06:04.319 knees. Everyone, I want to see they still hurt. I haven't had 2086 02:06:04.359 --> 02:06:09.880 one in like twenty years. He's strong. Okay, Yeah, that seems 2087 02:06:09.920 --> 02:06:12.560 unpleasant. Yeah, it's not that bad. Yeah, but it's not just 2088 02:06:12.640 --> 02:06:15.439 like a quick burning. It's fine. You have a lot of hair on 2089 02:06:15.479 --> 02:06:17.039 your arms, so that's true. Kind of pulled him. Yeah, all 2090 02:06:17.119 --> 02:06:23.199 right, stop shelf radio. Let's move on. Uh, Jeff podcast studio 2091 02:06:23.279 --> 02:06:29.439 finished. You can see some serious shit half an hour of that. Uh 2092 02:06:29.680 --> 02:06:34.800 Jeff and Seattle righte son about the Giant Bomb familial structure. It's going to 2093 02:06:34.840 --> 02:06:41.640 present this for your consideration. This already sounds great. Yeah. Obviously Jeff 2094 02:06:41.720 --> 02:06:44.560 is the dad of Giant Bomb West and Vinnie is the dad of Giant Bomb 2095 02:06:44.640 --> 02:06:46.520 East. Yeah, that's exactly. That's what it says in my business card. 2096 02:06:46.520 --> 02:06:50.640 I submit, I submit that Dan and Drew are the goofus and gallant 2097 02:06:50.680 --> 02:06:55.359 style children of West Gallant. Uh, Brad is the yes and you're in 2098 02:06:55.439 --> 02:07:00.199 mind. Brad is the sensible and organized uncle. Jason is has always thinks 2099 02:07:00.199 --> 02:07:05.760 he's the gallant. Yeah, you know what they say live long enough to 2100 02:07:08.680 --> 02:07:14.840 go on. Jason is maybe the estranged stepfather figure that is often confused by 2101 02:07:14.920 --> 02:07:17.920 the Shenanigans of his platonic family, but also realizes that things might be hopeless 2102 02:07:17.960 --> 02:07:21.760 should he actually step away. Sure, okay, man and all organized stuff, 2103 02:07:21.760 --> 02:07:24.319 and it's just like, okay, you guys, keep doing what you're 2104 02:07:24.319 --> 02:07:26.960 doing. I just want to be everyone's friend. Just pick up your fucking 2105 02:07:27.039 --> 02:07:32.640 toys. Austin and Alex are clearly the cool late teenagers of East coming into 2106 02:07:32.640 --> 02:07:36.119 their own, coming into their own philosophically after getting a taste of high school 2107 02:07:36.159 --> 02:07:41.439 knowledge dropped on them. Jeff Bakalar is the cool new cousin that suddenly started 2108 02:07:41.479 --> 02:07:45.279 coming to hang out. Thank God, that's there. You go. What 2109 02:07:45.319 --> 02:07:48.279 do you think? Yeah, presented without comment. Okay, yes, just 2110 02:07:48.800 --> 02:07:54.640 put that out there. I got into this tumbler account. Okay, what 2111 02:07:54.720 --> 02:07:59.399 do you think? Ye see if there's anything good there? Uh, let's 2112 02:07:59.479 --> 02:08:03.239 see. What's everyone's favorite Kirby power. Mine's the one where he turns into 2113 02:08:03.239 --> 02:08:05.159 a curling stone, the one where he eats stuff and has the power of 2114 02:08:05.239 --> 02:08:09.720 it. Fucking beam. I feel like that. I feel like that's wishing 2115 02:08:09.800 --> 02:08:11.239 for more wishes. Man, you can't get away. That's not that's that's 2116 02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:15.119 against the I mean, that's his only power, really true, that's the 2117 02:08:15.199 --> 02:08:16.039 only one I can think of. I don't night Sword one. It was 2118 02:08:16.079 --> 02:08:20.560 pretty cool. The beam sword things pretty cool. There's an ice one where 2119 02:08:20.680 --> 02:08:24.840 there's one where he gets all porky piney like that. I don't think I've 2120 02:08:24.840 --> 02:08:28.119 ever played a Kirby game. They're fine. I like the one where he's 2121 02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:31.880 a pinball. Wait. Yeah, so you've never played a Kurry game. 2122 02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:33.520 I really don't think I have. Really, honestly, I have more than 2123 02:08:33.680 --> 02:08:37.319 just like a few minutes. Like I've I've tried some of the side scrollers 2124 02:08:37.319 --> 02:08:41.520 and yeah, the Super Nintendo stuff of course, and tried them briefly, 2125 02:08:41.640 --> 02:08:43.880 but like sat down and played a lot of Kirby. Like when he eats 2126 02:08:43.920 --> 02:08:48.760 Captain Falcon and gets a helmet. That sounds really cool. Punches things. 2127 02:08:48.239 --> 02:08:52.159 Jeff, are you can eat all that minion? Cereal? No? Did 2128 02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:54.720 you eat any of it? I tried a handful of it. How was 2129 02:08:54.760 --> 02:08:58.039 it? What was it? It's like a banana barry. It was like 2130 02:08:58.119 --> 02:09:01.960 a berry. It's delicious. Bring it into work. That's so good. 2131 02:09:01.039 --> 02:09:07.359 We'll take care of it. Is Dave Lane true the truest. Yeah. 2132 02:09:07.479 --> 02:09:15.800 Probably. Who is he in the familial structure? Oh boy, we don't 2133 02:09:15.840 --> 02:09:18.239 talk about. Yeah, he's that the uncle Jesse. He's doing the Uncle 2134 02:09:18.279 --> 02:09:20.800 It just got out of jail, He's yeah, he's doing fifteen to Life. 2135 02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:26.479 Uh. Is Ghost recon wild Lands the Hay sequel we've always wanted. 2136 02:09:26.640 --> 02:09:30.119 Let's hope, yeah, get into that? Is corn involved? I mean 2137 02:09:30.119 --> 02:09:31.119 because if we get them and this game is not out for a while, 2138 02:09:31.159 --> 02:09:35.520 we could probably get corn into it. How many times did they say boosh, 2139 02:09:35.920 --> 02:09:43.800 m not enough. I'm gonna say our visual novels, No, not 2140 02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:54.840 lately? Sure. Uh, let's see mm hmm rapid fire? Have you 2141 02:09:54.880 --> 02:09:58.880 ever touched all you get? Got to do a little parsing here, careful 2142 02:09:58.960 --> 02:10:01.199 would you ask? Yes? The first I've seen this account? I know. 2143 02:10:01.640 --> 02:10:05.079 The first time I did this, I made the mistake of just beginning 2144 02:10:05.119 --> 02:10:09.399 to read things without skimming them first to make sure, and then that got 2145 02:10:09.439 --> 02:10:13.399 bad. Yes. So that's that goes about saying have you ever touched the 2146 02:10:13.520 --> 02:10:16.800 coil on a car cigarette lighter after it heated up? Yes? Why would 2147 02:10:16.800 --> 02:10:18.640 you do that? It was hot? Why? Though I didn't realize it 2148 02:10:18.720 --> 02:10:22.720 was hot? Really, how do you not know that? I when's the 2149 02:10:22.800 --> 02:10:24.760 last time you guys saw one of Yeah? I was just wondered. They 2150 02:10:24.800 --> 02:10:28.640 still make those. You have to buy the actual cigarette lighter adapter like separately. 2151 02:10:28.800 --> 02:10:30.960 Yeah, like they still have the plug for it because you can you 2152 02:10:31.000 --> 02:10:33.439 know, there's yeah, chargers and stuff you can put in there. But 2153 02:10:33.640 --> 02:10:37.920 yeah, yeah, I guess my car doesn't have one. Doesn't mine as 2154 02:10:37.920 --> 02:10:41.000 an analog clock? You think it would have one? Weird? Yeah, 2155 02:10:41.079 --> 02:10:45.239 that's like it's like they're they're like, it's it's a twenty fifteen model year 2156 02:10:45.319 --> 02:10:48.039 car, okay, And they're like version of like, let's figure out a 2157 02:10:48.039 --> 02:10:52.279 way to make this car fancy. Was put some fucking plastic wood grain stuff 2158 02:10:52.720 --> 02:11:00.439 on the dash and in the center of it analog clock. That's that's I 2159 02:11:00.520 --> 02:11:03.239 didn't. I did not get a fully loaded version of the car. Does 2160 02:11:03.239 --> 02:11:05.000 it not have a cigarette lighter? Though it does, it's there's no, 2161 02:11:05.239 --> 02:11:09.239 there's no lighter in it. It's just the socket okay, and it's and 2162 02:11:09.279 --> 02:11:11.880 it's located in the center console for like specifically for charging. Should you just 2163 02:11:11.960 --> 02:11:16.680 add one if you want? Yeah? By the heating element? Probably is 2164 02:11:16.720 --> 02:11:20.520 that just an aftermarket thing? I get just fit in. There is that 2165 02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:24.560 standardized? It must be standardized. That was always the scariest thing as a 2166 02:11:24.640 --> 02:11:26.800 kid. Jesus Christ. I would always push it in because I like pushing 2167 02:11:26.840 --> 02:11:30.399 buttons, and then you would realize you just made something hot. Yeah yeah, 2168 02:11:31.039 --> 02:11:33.079 and you can set something on fire with it. Did they have like 2169 02:11:33.239 --> 02:11:37.479 vape charging stations and cars now? Yeah? Probably all us the USB stuff 2170 02:11:39.399 --> 02:11:41.960 I think a lot of it is setting stuff on fire still pretty fun. 2171 02:11:41.079 --> 02:11:46.880 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Our paper shredder broke and I had a big 2172 02:11:46.920 --> 02:11:50.920 stack of papers. I needed a shred over the weekend, so instead I 2173 02:11:52.000 --> 02:11:54.880 went out back and opened up the grill and just burned them all on the 2174 02:11:54.960 --> 02:11:58.640 grill. Did you watch the secrets go up and smoke? Laugh quietly to 2175 02:11:58.720 --> 02:12:01.199 yourself? And then I really paranoid that all my neighbors were watching. Also, 2176 02:12:01.319 --> 02:12:03.720 my hair was kind of crazy because I had slept on it weird And 2177 02:12:03.800 --> 02:12:07.000 that was just like this crazy dude and a white T shirt burning a bunch 2178 02:12:07.039 --> 02:12:13.439 of documents that needs nothing to me anymore. It was weirdest burning stuff. 2179 02:12:13.880 --> 02:12:18.159 Uh, who owns the rights to Bloody Roar? Do you think it's possible 2180 02:12:18.199 --> 02:12:20.000 we'll ever see another one? Of those games. Would any anyone besides me 2181 02:12:20.159 --> 02:12:24.720 even want one? I play one? They may went three of those make 2182 02:12:24.760 --> 02:12:28.399 as two one Yeah, okay, yeah that was stuff on PS two. 2183 02:12:28.560 --> 02:12:31.640 I like that better than Primal Rates. I was just about to ask, 2184 02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:33.680 I wouldn't that, man, I would take dude, prim Rate sucked heing 2185 02:12:33.800 --> 02:12:37.520 dinosaurs. Okay, what the fuck? You're not gonna give me to argue 2186 02:12:37.520 --> 02:12:39.800 against being dinosaurs. But that was not a good video game. But yeah, 2187 02:12:41.479 --> 02:12:45.439 their Primal Rage had heart, but was a bad game. You can 2188 02:12:45.479 --> 02:12:50.399 always make a better game, but only one franchise has peeing dinosaurs. If 2189 02:12:50.399 --> 02:12:52.079 they came out with a bloody roar and it had being dinosaurs in it, 2190 02:12:52.159 --> 02:12:56.000 you wouldn't think, oh, they really fucked up bloody roar with this stuff. 2191 02:12:56.000 --> 02:12:58.319 You go like, all right, cool if they were being dinosaurs. 2192 02:12:58.399 --> 02:13:00.680 Oh, Hudson made it. So you're never going to see one of those 2193 02:13:00.680 --> 02:13:05.159 ever made bloody roar. Yeah, weird tech and had a farting dis What 2194 02:13:05.239 --> 02:13:07.520 does that mean owns bloody roar? That's that is exactly what the wow. 2195 02:13:09.119 --> 02:13:13.079 But you can go they'll take it to their grave, just like Metal Gear, 2196 02:13:13.720 --> 02:13:16.720 who was the story Aiding made it. I don't know that's m m. 2197 02:13:16.840 --> 02:13:22.960 It sounds like Beastiser was originally, which was the arcade game? What 2198 02:13:24.239 --> 02:13:26.359 was the story about Gone and techn because I always wanted to him in more 2199 02:13:26.399 --> 02:13:30.840 games? But it was some animal character. It was a license Characa or 2200 02:13:30.880 --> 02:13:37.560 something. Yeah, Aiding, Aiding made the game, Aiding Co Limited Aiding 2201 02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:41.880 Raising. Surprisingly, I'm not up in my bloody roar lore, get on 2202 02:13:43.000 --> 02:13:46.960 that better. Fix that fix that I would I would like to be an 2203 02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:50.119 authority about you should somebody's got to do it. Aiding appears to continue to 2204 02:13:50.239 --> 02:13:52.479 exist, but I don't know if they own the rights to the IP or 2205 02:13:52.479 --> 02:13:58.119 if they're just the developers. They have a game for iOS called Storm Heroes 2206 02:13:58.199 --> 02:14:01.159 that appears to be like a Centai thing. That's what that is, the 2207 02:14:01.239 --> 02:14:03.760 Power Rangers stuff that's sent I right, good? I like I like that 2208 02:14:03.840 --> 02:14:11.079 all these come in an animost anonymously because it makes you wonder things like whether 2209 02:14:11.159 --> 02:14:13.800 the next three of these were all sent by the same person, or if 2210 02:14:13.840 --> 02:14:16.439 three different people just happen to send in things analyzing our speech patterns all at 2211 02:14:16.479 --> 02:14:20.600 once. UH A statistic for you. Over the last five episodes, the 2212 02:14:20.680 --> 02:14:24.079 word moment is spoken by Jeff an average of thirty one times per episode. 2213 02:14:24.399 --> 02:14:31.279 Wow, it's a lot of moments, all right. Uh. Brad may 2214 02:14:31.359 --> 02:14:33.720 overpronounce the letter L in words such as yolk, walk, folk, et 2215 02:14:33.800 --> 02:14:37.560 cetera. However, Jeff adds an L to the word moment, making it 2216 02:14:37.720 --> 02:14:41.680 moment that has to be the same person has to be saying. He says, 2217 02:14:41.760 --> 02:14:45.479 moment. That's literally how this is spelled here. So yeah, yeah, 2218 02:14:45.479 --> 02:14:52.560 it's it's the it's a mole's moment. Uh. A while ago, 2219 02:14:52.680 --> 02:14:56.920 Dan mentioned that he feels embarrassed that he says to where he should really embarrass 2220 02:14:56.000 --> 02:14:58.800 at his notice it. Now he shouldn't feel too bad since Patrick Kleppick says, 2221 02:14:58.800 --> 02:15:03.880 in which in nearly every sentence, m there you go. Uh, 2222 02:15:05.439 --> 02:15:09.520 what do you think is the optimal supermarket sweep strategy? Directly for the meat? 2223 02:15:09.680 --> 02:15:13.720 Finally, something that is in dance wheel house let me finish. Okay, 2224 02:15:15.079 --> 02:15:18.119 do you go directly for the meat? OTC medication? Do you deal 2225 02:15:18.239 --> 02:15:20.439 with the candy and coffee bullshit? First of all, you do a quick 2226 02:15:20.439 --> 02:15:24.359 sweep of all the aisles and you see if there's any big inflatable like jolly 2227 02:15:24.399 --> 02:15:26.800 green giants or anything, because they usually have a little envelope on there with 2228 02:15:26.159 --> 02:15:28.760 I can't remember if there was clues or whatever to get to like some super 2229 02:15:28.840 --> 02:15:31.399 big thing. But if you're just trying to stock your cart with stuff that's 2230 02:15:31.399 --> 02:15:35.000 going to be really valuable, you go straight to the turkey section and you 2231 02:15:35.079 --> 02:15:37.640 just load your whole cart with turkeys. That show was amazing, and then 2232 02:15:37.680 --> 02:15:41.520 after it was Shop Till You Drop, which was okay. It was the 2233 02:15:41.560 --> 02:15:43.920 one set in a big fake mall, but it was no Supermarket Sweep, 2234 02:15:43.039 --> 02:15:45.960 Right, I want to find out what's going on with the host of Supermarket 2235 02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:48.079 Sweep. I hope he's not dead. What was his name? I don't 2236 02:15:48.079 --> 02:15:50.279 know. He's very friendly. He always had a tie. I think he 2237 02:15:50.319 --> 02:15:52.439 had an apron on like he worked in the supermarkets like a game show? 2238 02:15:52.600 --> 02:15:54.640 Was it? That wasn't Tom Bergeron? Wasn't no, no, no, 2239 02:15:54.760 --> 02:15:56.199 it was I've only seen him on that. He was no Wink Martindale. 2240 02:15:56.239 --> 02:16:00.680 He's no Tom Bergeron. Who is really? That's true? But no, 2241 02:16:00.800 --> 02:16:05.760 the Supermarkets with David ruprec Man, this show was great. They should remake 2242 02:16:05.840 --> 02:16:09.800 that. They had a couple of hoose. Yeah, it was well originally 2243 02:16:09.880 --> 02:16:13.840 well okay, in the sixties it was Bill Malone and they brought it back 2244 02:16:13.880 --> 02:16:16.920 in the sixties. Apparently. I watched the early to mid nineties win. 2245 02:16:16.520 --> 02:16:20.720 Yes, David Rupreck, the host of that. He was middle aged when 2246 02:16:20.760 --> 02:16:24.239 it was No, he is not good. He is sixty seven. I 2247 02:16:24.319 --> 02:16:26.960 hope he's happy. He has hosted the live stage show version of The Prices 2248 02:16:28.079 --> 02:16:30.359 Right in casinos and Vegas and stuff like that. When they do though, 2249 02:16:30.399 --> 02:16:31.639 when they see him doing a good job at that, yeah, uh, 2250 02:16:31.760 --> 02:16:35.319 same with a family Feud live. He's currently one of the hosts the Prices 2251 02:16:35.399 --> 02:16:39.840 Right Live stage show at Bally's, working alongside Todd Newton, who was the 2252 02:16:41.239 --> 02:16:45.200 He was one of the early e presenters. Okay, he did the thing. 2253 02:16:45.239 --> 02:16:46.719 Won't say he did that trailer show, oh with the Entertainment Network. 2254 02:16:46.799 --> 02:16:50.319 Yes, the Entertainment Now got it. Who's underrated? It is Kirk Fogg, 2255 02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:52.760 the guy who repelled from the ceiling at the beginning of every episode of 2256 02:16:52.840 --> 02:16:54.879 Legends of the Hidden Temple. He was good. That was one of the 2257 02:16:54.879 --> 02:16:58.239 greatest shows. Well, apparently they both work alongside announcer Randy West for the 2258 02:16:58.280 --> 02:17:01.840 Prices Right Live stage show. But it's not the Randy West. I was 2259 02:17:01.879 --> 02:17:05.280 thinking of us, so I was like, that's a weird turn. Oh 2260 02:17:05.360 --> 02:17:11.120 boy, I wish I hadn't laughed at that. Which uh speaking of which, 2261 02:17:11.520 --> 02:17:15.079 wait, what is this not? No, this is TV Randy West 2262 02:17:15.120 --> 02:17:20.959 dot com. This is Jesus Christ never bringing a laptop to the show ever 2263 02:17:20.000 --> 02:17:24.600 again, or always bringing a laptop of this show from here on out. 2264 02:17:24.719 --> 02:17:28.360 Yea, we need jingles, man, Yeah, I could agree with that. 2265 02:17:28.159 --> 02:17:31.440 I lastly, I will mention that I very briefly observed this morning watching 2266 02:17:31.479 --> 02:17:35.159 the news that if you're into weird game show host names, go on. 2267 02:17:35.360 --> 02:17:41.120 Watching coverage of the Oregon Federal Building occupation is another great source of crazy fucking 2268 02:17:41.239 --> 02:17:45.959 names. It was like every every single person there was a sound like, 2269 02:17:46.120 --> 02:17:50.200 yes, they were talking to a rancher named Lavoy Finicum on the news. 2270 02:17:50.319 --> 02:17:52.639 This would work as a game show. I'm not saying like that. Yeah, 2271 02:17:52.639 --> 02:17:56.879 it's a different kind of weird name, but maybe as an announcer, 2272 02:17:56.399 --> 02:18:05.399 like a Rod Roddy esque figure. Yeah, me, where what country you're 2273 02:18:05.479 --> 02:18:11.840 from? Roy? It's real good suits yep. Uh Yeah, there's a 2274 02:18:11.959 --> 02:18:18.840 long stream of string of messages here about automode Lisa fin very enthusiastic ones man, 2275 02:18:18.079 --> 02:18:22.719 that game should have been I sent all these they don't They don't even 2276 02:18:22.760 --> 02:18:26.639 really say anything intelligible. It's just a lot of enthusiasm for Automodelise took game. 2277 02:18:26.719 --> 02:18:31.479 It looks so cool and played so not cool. Yep, yeah, 2278 02:18:31.040 --> 02:18:37.920 that's a shame. Uh. Would blood Borne have been better if they had 2279 02:18:37.000 --> 02:18:41.799 just gotten the license for Lovecraft works? They would. They've done everything but 2280 02:18:41.840 --> 02:18:45.319 break copyright. But wouldn't it be better if you could fight Cthulhu? Lovecraft 2281 02:18:45.440 --> 02:18:48.760 is in the public domain? That shit is old. I actually like wish 2282 02:18:48.879 --> 02:18:52.280 that that game had something other like, I think there's too much Cathulhu in 2283 02:18:52.680 --> 02:18:58.280 in things. Yeah, it's love it's that they would read it. I 2284 02:18:58.360 --> 02:19:03.120 bet I'm or they would. I don't thought there was a decent amount of 2285 02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:07.479 restraint there. They waited until about the halfway point before they really started. 2286 02:19:07.639 --> 02:19:09.559 They did, but but once the turn happens, it fucking turns and never 2287 02:19:09.639 --> 02:19:15.120 goes back. It's just not like I've never been into it right, so 2288 02:19:15.239 --> 02:19:20.040 when it rears, it's ugly technically fucking head. I was like a man 2289 02:19:20.360 --> 02:19:24.079 settle an old bet for me regarding that stuff. So back a game informer 2290 02:19:24.479 --> 02:19:28.520 somebody temp Terry, my friend was writing a thing about that type of stuff 2291 02:19:28.559 --> 02:19:33.000 Cthulhu and Lovecraft and all that before Cosmic corp. Okay, I'd heard that 2292 02:19:33.200 --> 02:19:37.840 term. He referred to something in a preview or somethings like, oh, 2293 02:19:37.840 --> 02:19:41.159 it has elements from like Eldridge Horror or something. And I went up to 2294 02:19:41.239 --> 02:19:41.959 him and I was like, I should probably take this out. People aren't 2295 02:19:41.959 --> 02:19:43.639 going to know what that is. And he was like, yeah, it's 2296 02:19:43.680 --> 02:19:46.079 really commonly known. Everyone knows what Eldrit Horror is. I was like, 2297 02:19:46.319 --> 02:19:52.879 yeah, I've never heard that. I've heard of Lovecraft genre maybe, but 2298 02:19:52.079 --> 02:19:54.639 yeah, like love Craft team I've heard of in Cosmic Horror. But the 2299 02:19:54.959 --> 02:19:58.159 cleanest way to refer to Okay, I don't think. I don't think I 2300 02:19:58.159 --> 02:20:01.440 would immediately know that you were talking about Lovecraft if you yeah, thank you. 2301 02:20:03.959 --> 02:20:05.479 Like it kind of suggests it, but it's not quite not quite, 2302 02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:11.479 uh, but yeah, like I actually stick your head in a fake toilet 2303 02:20:11.520 --> 02:20:15.000 you keep talking about it this way. I actually actually actually looked this one 2304 02:20:15.079 --> 02:20:18.520 up earlier, just to make sure the Lovecraft stuff is in the public domain, 2305 02:20:18.600 --> 02:20:22.559 that that exists from like right before the time that the Disney perverted copyright 2306 02:20:22.680 --> 02:20:31.360 law to its own ends forevermore. Mmmmmm why do you give Dave Lang so 2307 02:20:31.440 --> 02:20:35.799 much shit? I don't understand that at all. These role model so much. 2308 02:20:35.639 --> 02:20:39.000 I just threw that one out because I'm trying to find another one. 2309 02:20:39.280 --> 02:20:43.520 Okay, uh Rivers point the Guns n Roses reuniting in twenty sixteen for a 2310 02:20:43.600 --> 02:20:48.280 few festivals, seeing a slash an Axle recently made up. I I didn't 2311 02:20:48.280 --> 02:20:50.559 hear anything about that. Oh yeah, I just hear that actually each other? 2312 02:20:50.680 --> 02:20:54.120 Yeah, Kendred Spirits. Do you guys think we'll see a reunion soon? 2313 02:20:54.639 --> 02:20:58.920 Twenty seventeen is the thirtieth anniversary. Have appetite? I have? I 2314 02:20:58.959 --> 02:21:01.799 have a question before we get to this. Yeah, Dan, what made 2315 02:21:01.840 --> 02:21:05.280 you more excited the potential rumor of Guns and Roses getting back together or Axel 2316 02:21:05.319 --> 02:21:09.000 professing his love for Taco Bell on Twitter? Probably the Taco Bell thing, 2317 02:21:09.280 --> 02:21:13.959 because I've always been fascinated with Axel and knowing that a man of his stature 2318 02:21:13.040 --> 02:21:16.559 and wealth and fame can still he's not so high falutin. He's not so 2319 02:21:16.879 --> 02:21:20.920 you know, wrapped up in his fancy world that he can't appreciate you know, 2320 02:21:20.040 --> 02:21:24.159 some good cuisine. Cuisine, Yeah, the actual you anything. So 2321 02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:26.600 I've actually been following this pretty close. And I'm looking at the lineup right 2322 02:21:26.639 --> 02:21:30.200 now that's heavily rumored, and it's a weird fucking lineup. It's not the 2323 02:21:30.239 --> 02:21:31.799 original one. I mean, Axel and Slash are the important thing, but 2324 02:21:31.840 --> 02:21:35.559 you've also got these jumbors like Chris Pittman and who exactly he's the guy who 2325 02:21:35.600 --> 02:21:39.399 puts a bunch of weird sense noises into stuff like are under the Chinese Democracy? 2326 02:21:39.440 --> 02:21:41.000 Is he? Is he? Or no? Is he? Uh? 2327 02:21:41.159 --> 02:21:43.440 No? Is he? So here here's the lineup? He was like the 2328 02:21:43.479 --> 02:21:46.479 hold out, wasn't it for a while? Is he? Well? Is 2329 02:21:46.559 --> 02:21:48.760 he would show up during Chinese Democracy tours and occasionally during rose stags and do 2330 02:21:48.840 --> 02:21:52.719 stuff. But he hates kind of cash grab reunion type shit like this. 2331 02:21:52.799 --> 02:21:54.719 So is he? Is not part of the super rumored thing. So it's 2332 02:21:54.920 --> 02:21:58.879 Axel, Slash Duff. It's a good start there, Okay, uh Frey. 2333 02:22:00.440 --> 02:22:01.680 I think Frank's that drummer named Brain. It's been a long time since 2334 02:22:01.719 --> 02:22:05.559 I was super obsessed with this stuff. Chris Pittman, who's the weird scynth 2335 02:22:05.639 --> 02:22:09.520 guy. Dizzy who is the piano player, the backup guy on November Rain. 2336 02:22:09.600 --> 02:22:11.959 He's in that video. It's really fucked up that a band had due 2337 02:22:11.040 --> 02:22:15.399 named Izzy went and got someone named Dizzy. Yeah, the best was the 2338 02:22:15.440 --> 02:22:16.360 best. Yeah, it was when he Dizzy. We're both in the band. 2339 02:22:16.840 --> 02:22:20.559 But there's not no Gilby, there's no Izzy, Ilieve Pisher and Richard 2340 02:22:20.639 --> 02:22:26.440 Fordyce no Buckethead obviously, but yeah, so Buckethead. As of the day 2341 02:22:26.479 --> 02:22:28.239 this podcast goes up, Axel is going to be on Jimmy Kimmel Live, 2342 02:22:28.760 --> 02:22:33.319 and uh, that's tonight. That that is tonight as of this airing. 2343 02:22:33.559 --> 02:22:37.120 I mean that was last night. Yeah, appeared on Tuesday. Yeah, 2344 02:22:37.159 --> 02:22:39.440 Tuesday night. Axel is supposed to be saying what the deal is, Like, 2345 02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:43.920 it's clearly going to happen. Seeing Axcel and Slash together will be kind 2346 02:22:43.959 --> 02:22:46.799 of crazy to see. Are those shows that you feel like you absolutely have 2347 02:22:46.840 --> 02:22:50.520 to see? So here's the you guys both like, I think this is 2348 02:22:50.520 --> 02:22:54.799 a terrible idea. Here's the only thing I'm excited about is that I think 2349 02:22:54.840 --> 02:23:00.399 we're guaranteed some just classic Axel asshole, you know, him just storming off 2350 02:23:00.440 --> 02:23:03.159 stage, canceling the thing. Can't get away with that anymore though, because 2351 02:23:03.159 --> 02:23:05.920 he can't bring it when he does go on stage when I saw him. 2352 02:23:07.440 --> 02:23:09.840 I don't know, man, he was actually really really good when I saw 2353 02:23:09.879 --> 02:23:11.479 him. I'll take your word for it, but he's had terrible appearances in 2354 02:23:11.559 --> 02:23:15.879 the Chinese democracy era, like he can be fucking terrible. But when I 2355 02:23:15.959 --> 02:23:18.399 saw him at the Target Center of Minneapolis, he was on can I'm amazing. 2356 02:23:18.920 --> 02:23:22.120 Do you think that when this lineup gets back together, will this lineup 2357 02:23:22.159 --> 02:23:28.719 be equipped to give me some reggae? Uh? I think if they do 2358 02:23:28.840 --> 02:23:31.079 knocking on Heaven's door, I think he might get some reggae. You'll have 2359 02:23:31.120 --> 02:23:33.559 to yell up pretty loud from the crowd. Okay, if that's what it 2360 02:23:33.639 --> 02:23:37.399 takes, If it takes me going to every show on that tour and shouting, 2361 02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:41.079 give me some reggae. Have you seen the most recent picture of ax 2362 02:23:41.239 --> 02:23:46.799 Rose from late December. Who that's all I have to say. It's not 2363 02:23:46.840 --> 02:23:50.040 gonna be pretty. He's saying he really does like Taco Bell. He's not 2364 02:23:50.120 --> 02:23:52.360 fun. Oh yeah, he certainly seems too. But yeah, I'm just 2365 02:23:52.479 --> 02:23:56.639 looking forward to the Axel freakouts. That's my favorite thing about Guns. I 2366 02:23:56.719 --> 02:23:58.719 mean, the music is very good too, but Axel is the most fascinating 2367 02:23:58.719 --> 02:24:01.920 part of that so I'm looking forward him canceling at two shows in or getting 2368 02:24:01.959 --> 02:24:05.000 in some crazy fight or you know, yeah, it's gonna be great. 2369 02:24:05.120 --> 02:24:07.680 I feel like his time has gone on. I like, for me, 2370 02:24:07.799 --> 02:24:11.000 Guns n Roses was a real passing fad of like, oh, the Appetite 2371 02:24:11.040 --> 02:24:15.000 for Destruction was really good and the stuff that followed was was fun at the 2372 02:24:15.079 --> 02:24:16.760 time, and I listened to it now and just go like, oh, 2373 02:24:16.920 --> 02:24:20.399 these people were all terrible. Yeah yeah, not in like an ass like, 2374 02:24:20.520 --> 02:24:22.840 oh, it's fun to see an asshole's like, no accelent, really 2375 02:24:22.079 --> 02:24:24.959 bad person. Oh yeah, I completely agree. He's a real piece. 2376 02:24:26.200 --> 02:24:28.440 Yeah he's, Yeah, he's but he's a fascinating piece of s yeah yeah. 2377 02:24:30.319 --> 02:24:31.440 And it's one of those things where it's like, at some point along 2378 02:24:31.479 --> 02:24:35.559 the way, the music either got dated or ruined by a lot of that 2379 02:24:35.600 --> 02:24:37.639 stuff or whatever is I listened to now, it's like, except for a 2380 02:24:37.799 --> 02:24:43.479 select few songs from Appetite for Destruction, even though I'm kind of done with 2381 02:24:43.639 --> 02:24:46.840 yeah, yeah, that's a big, big, big guns and those songs 2382 02:24:46.879 --> 02:24:48.200 have have gone the other way of like, I've heard these songs so many 2383 02:24:48.239 --> 02:24:52.200 times I don't really want to hear something like half of appetite you kind of 2384 02:24:52.280 --> 02:24:54.399 kind of can't listen to anymore. It's just side of you. It's so 2385 02:24:54.559 --> 02:24:58.200 overplayed that I'll admit, Yeah, like a lot of that is on my 2386 02:24:58.280 --> 02:25:00.600 running playlist, and if I'm running, a night Train comes out and it's 2387 02:25:00.600 --> 02:25:01.799 like, yeah, night Trains a fucking sweet song, but I've heard it 2388 02:25:01.879 --> 02:25:05.239 a thousand fucking times, so I skip. I can't listen to Regulate by 2389 02:25:05.319 --> 02:25:09.760 Warren Gy and Nate Dog that that is a real tragedy and it's I don't 2390 02:25:09.799 --> 02:25:13.120 know that I'll be able to. I can listen to it maybe once a 2391 02:25:13.200 --> 02:25:15.760 year, all the way through. But it comes on on my you know, 2392 02:25:15.799 --> 02:25:18.399 I I have satellite radio, so there's a throwback rap station. And 2393 02:25:18.440 --> 02:25:22.239 then also it's on my phone and when it comes on, I skip it. 2394 02:25:22.840 --> 02:25:26.440 I mean I skip it me out. That's what I do. How 2395 02:25:26.440 --> 02:25:28.600 are you gonna know what's gonna happen if you're ass as a buster? I 2396 02:25:28.760 --> 02:25:33.959 know, yeah, I know the two on three reill Regulate because that's inside 2397 02:25:33.040 --> 02:25:35.719 of me. Now. I don't need to hear it because it's always in 2398 02:25:35.840 --> 02:25:41.079 there anyway, and hearing it is just even You've you've internalized this knowledge, 2399 02:25:41.319 --> 02:25:46.120 Yes, you absorbed the wisdom, and I don't. Axel doesn't look like 2400 02:25:46.159 --> 02:25:48.639 you're showing me this picture of Axl Rose here. He doesn't look that bad. 2401 02:25:48.760 --> 02:25:52.680 Really, whatever was not looking? Hey, it's been fucking what thirty 2402 02:25:52.760 --> 02:25:56.600 years? Man? What the do you want? Looks very sad? I 2403 02:25:56.639 --> 02:25:58.799 mean I saw when the Appetite for Destruction came out. I think I was 2404 02:25:58.840 --> 02:26:01.920 in the eighth grade. You know, I saw a video. I look 2405 02:26:01.920 --> 02:26:03.000 I don't look like I looked in the eighth grade. I mean I saw, 2406 02:26:03.559 --> 02:26:07.559 I saw. I saw a video of Slash's band the other day playing 2407 02:26:07.559 --> 02:26:09.319 a tribute to Lemmy, and like Slash, Slash can still play, but 2408 02:26:09.399 --> 02:26:13.159 he's put on a few as well, Like these dudes are in their fifties. 2409 02:26:13.040 --> 02:26:16.680 Yeah. It's also they're like all sober right, like Slash had too 2410 02:26:16.680 --> 02:26:20.639 good sober, like medically ordered. Basically, Axel is super nats stuff. 2411 02:26:20.680 --> 02:26:24.040 Looks like he belongs in fucking Mad Max the Holy Hip. That guy is 2412 02:26:24.120 --> 02:26:28.760 like two percent body fat, just fucking like muscle and sinew and just like 2413 02:26:28.959 --> 02:26:33.280 scary. Look at the guy that was like chugging fifths of vodka. It's 2414 02:26:33.280 --> 02:26:37.079 a miracle those dudes are still alive. Anyway. Yeah, yeah, that'll 2415 02:26:37.079 --> 02:26:39.959 be fun to watch. I'll be watching Kimmel tomorrow. It'll be interesting to 2416 02:26:41.000 --> 02:26:43.959 watch. I don't have any expectation it'll be any good, but not Felon 2417 02:26:45.399 --> 02:26:48.360 doing Kimmel. Okay, I remember Felon actually reintroduced guns and Roses at like 2418 02:26:48.440 --> 02:26:52.159 two two VMAs. Yeah. Yes, I've watched the clip a billion times. 2419 02:26:52.200 --> 02:26:54.319 That would have been I thought that was a good performance. That was 2420 02:26:54.360 --> 02:27:03.600 the corn rows and unveiling. Oh h yeah. The shortest messages they're sending 2421 02:27:03.680 --> 02:27:07.520 this tumbler are also mostly the most unreadable ones for one reason or another. 2422 02:27:07.840 --> 02:27:13.840 Yeah. Uh, if you were a fast food restaurant, which one would 2423 02:27:13.840 --> 02:27:16.959 you be? Arby's? I was just gonna say Arbason. I don't know 2424 02:27:16.040 --> 02:27:20.079 why. Why do we both go to Arby's. I don't know that. 2425 02:27:20.120 --> 02:27:22.120 I was kind of thinking Arby's, but I also texted someone about Arby's earlier 2426 02:27:22.159 --> 02:27:24.799 today, so I think about Arby's a lot. I don't even know if 2427 02:27:24.799 --> 02:27:28.799 there's an Arby's in San Francisco. I am fun one. I don't know, 2428 02:27:28.200 --> 02:27:30.920 but I was. I would say Jack in the Box. They've got 2429 02:27:30.959 --> 02:27:33.639 the most variety on the menu. There's a ton of stuff on that menu. 2430 02:27:33.719 --> 02:27:35.399 It's insane. They serve breakfast all day, none of this McDonald's. 2431 02:27:37.559 --> 02:27:39.680 Yeah, the burgers have gotten fucking dry. Ye, I don't know what's 2432 02:27:39.680 --> 02:27:43.920 going on with those tacos are still shitty. I'm shitty in a way that 2433 02:27:43.959 --> 02:27:46.879 I love at two am. For me, that's all. I want to 2434 02:27:46.920 --> 02:27:50.760 be shitty in a way that people love. Ye. I've been going through 2435 02:27:50.840 --> 02:27:54.840 McDonald's renaissance lately that it's i'd gone too long, Like since I moved here, 2436 02:27:54.959 --> 02:27:56.079 there's not McDonald's close to me, but there's that one right there on 2437 02:27:56.159 --> 02:28:00.559 the corner. So a couple of times I've gotten McDonald's and were kindling an 2438 02:28:00.600 --> 02:28:05.000 old love gross it's great, number two, number two forever. And Burger 2439 02:28:05.079 --> 02:28:11.040 I'm taking a break from currently run break Okay. I went to a Burger 2440 02:28:11.200 --> 02:28:15.239 king, oh not that long ago, thinking I was it was October. 2441 02:28:15.239 --> 02:28:18.639 I was trying to get that black burger that they were and they didn't fucking 2442 02:28:18.680 --> 02:28:20.319 have it. But I was like, I was in the drive there already, 2443 02:28:20.360 --> 02:28:24.319 so it's like I'm not going to just drive away. I got it, 2444 02:28:24.440 --> 02:28:26.840 and it was I don't eat it as often as I used to, 2445 02:28:26.920 --> 02:28:30.120 and it was not great bumped me out. So wait, do we not 2446 02:28:30.280 --> 02:28:33.639 get fucking mcribs out here? Yeah, because it's mac ribs season. Like 2447 02:28:33.680 --> 02:28:37.879 when I was home, they definitely had mc ribs. If they're out, 2448 02:28:37.920 --> 02:28:43.520 they're out. It's usually it's a regional but so it's like it's the cost 2449 02:28:43.600 --> 02:28:48.520 of rib meat, and it is. But usually it's usually when they find 2450 02:28:48.559 --> 02:28:50.399 the price, they roll it out nationwide. It's sometimes it takes a while 2451 02:28:50.440 --> 02:28:56.479 to get damn it's around, but the mc rib definitely hits. I feel 2452 02:28:56.520 --> 02:28:58.440 like the season was months ago, but it might not him same from Cisco. 2453 02:28:58.440 --> 02:29:01.479 I don't know. I don't need a McDonald's. When I went two 2454 02:29:01.520 --> 02:29:05.079 weeks ago, there was mac rib signs everywhere. Really yeah where in Kansas? 2455 02:29:05.280 --> 02:29:07.360 In Kansas, Okay, try to go to chick Fila while I was 2456 02:29:07.360 --> 02:29:09.799 in Kansas, but it's fucking Sunday. We got one out here. Yeah, 2457 02:29:11.079 --> 02:29:13.079 there's a chick Flay out here where Uh Well, the closest one is 2458 02:29:13.159 --> 02:29:20.040 in uh Vacaville. I think there's there's no creek because one it's Santa Rosa. 2459 02:29:20.079 --> 02:29:24.200 Now up by me there is one in Nevado. No, wow, 2460 02:29:24.280 --> 02:29:26.760 that's close there. They're opening more of them around. Yeah, okay, 2461 02:29:26.000 --> 02:29:31.040 good, go to Fatburger sometimes they're good. Yeah, man, I haven't 2462 02:29:31.040 --> 02:29:33.719 been to one in a while. I miss fat. There's one that E 2463 02:29:33.840 --> 02:29:37.959 forty owns half of okay, pretty much exclusively, go to that one. 2464 02:29:37.079 --> 02:29:41.280 That's all right, let's do one more of these, get out of here, 2465 02:29:41.399 --> 02:29:50.440 all right, except that I've gone through them all. Shit, if 2466 02:29:50.479 --> 02:29:52.280 there was a game, any game, and only one copy was made and 2467 02:29:52.319 --> 02:29:56.520 it was sold at auction, what game would fetch the highest price? I 2468 02:29:56.600 --> 02:30:00.040 mean, an existing game or just like a sequel? I guess, I 2469 02:30:00.040 --> 02:30:03.440 don't know if that's the entirety of the thing. Wait, only one was 2470 02:30:03.559 --> 02:30:07.079 made? Yeah, wu tang albums situation. Yeah, that's obviously what they're 2471 02:30:07.079 --> 02:30:09.479 getting. I think, like, I don't know, and probably a half 2472 02:30:09.559 --> 02:30:13.760 like three, right, oh sure, yeah, that's what's if they if 2473 02:30:13.799 --> 02:30:16.680 they came out said we're making one copy of Half Life three, excepts making 2474 02:30:16.719 --> 02:30:18.120 a PC game would be bad because I would just get pirate. It would 2475 02:30:18.120 --> 02:30:24.360 be so good. It would be a Pokemon game. Should do that thing? 2476 02:30:24.399 --> 02:30:28.639 What I meant, But sure their servers get that source code. Let's 2477 02:30:28.639 --> 02:30:31.840 say it. Let's say it has to be an existing game, any game 2478 02:30:31.920 --> 02:30:37.440 from the history of games Chase, of course. I mean I guess by 2479 02:30:37.479 --> 02:30:39.479 default, whatever game you pick is automatically the most coveted game ever, right, 2480 02:30:39.559 --> 02:30:43.920 yeah it then collectors are weirdos and they would want to own it. 2481 02:30:45.040 --> 02:30:52.520 It's true, all that sort of stuff. Mm hmm. Primal rage R 2482 02:30:52.799 --> 02:30:56.319 two yep, on like two or three copies of that Chicago Yep. Yeah 2483 02:30:56.360 --> 02:30:58.399 they yeah, that's right they did. They got one up and running and 2484 02:30:58.440 --> 02:31:05.280 put it aid yep. Yeah, fuck go to Chicago. Uh the Legend 2485 02:31:05.280 --> 02:31:11.360 of Zelda, sure, sure, BombCast giant bomb dot com or uh god, 2486 02:31:11.440 --> 02:31:13.159 what is it? Is it giant BombCast dot tumbler dot com. I 2487 02:31:13.239 --> 02:31:16.440 believe it's the Tumbler account. Is that right? I think so? I 2488 02:31:16.479 --> 02:31:20.440 can't even remember. I think that's right because I hastily try to pull it 2489 02:31:20.520 --> 02:31:22.479 up on my phone. Twitch Idler is up to five hundred and thirteen million. 2490 02:31:24.200 --> 02:31:26.600 Wow, geez, that's moving a pretty good clip. It was like 2491 02:31:26.680 --> 02:31:31.479 fourty eight eight earlier. They have to go go tune into the team effort. 2492 02:31:31.719 --> 02:31:33.559 Yeah, just sit in the chat. That's all takes, okay. 2493 02:31:33.719 --> 02:31:39.319 Occasionally type upgrade upgrade what is it literally called twitch idler slash twitch Idler yep. 2494 02:31:39.520 --> 02:31:43.959 All right, well we all should go for our support behind the cause. 2495 02:31:43.040 --> 02:31:46.239 I mean maybe, don't know, I don't know. I think it's 2496 02:31:46.280 --> 02:31:48.120 probably for the best. We all get out of here and go check that 2497 02:31:48.159 --> 02:31:54.000 out. All right, let'll do it for this first edition of the Giant 2498 02:31:54.000 --> 02:31:56.799 Bobcast for twenty sixteen. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week, 2499 02:31:56.920 --> 02:31:58.280 same time. Bye.