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Happy Friday, Metroplex, Happy December. It's December first? Did you know

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that? Mike? Mike, did
you know that it's December first? It's

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the twelfth am thirty days, Happy
old June in November all dress thirty one?

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So what except for February, which
has a leap? Here? Is

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that the one you use her to
use? The thirty days? The theory

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hat Steptember, April, June,
and November half not half half half thirty

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days half way thirty shut up?
Thirty days, thirty days half September,

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April, June, and November.
All the rest have thirty one. I

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know, I just we were doing
it right, But what's the last line?

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Did you say? Thirty days half
September, April, June, and

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November. All the rest have thirty
one except February and then just twenty nine.

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It sort of loses its rhythm and
rhyme toward the end. It does

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bad. I think it's just kind
of assumed the February thing, you know,

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So the value is in the rhyme
at the beginning and middle, and

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then at the end you just tack
on the February. What are you going

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know? What rhymes with February,
like third grade, and they thought that

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this one to us, and I
remember us them making us explain the leapsier

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thing in the final verse to this
background music, I'm looking at anything rhymes

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with February. It doesn't. I
don't you have to leave Your thing is

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bizarre and I'm fascinated with like Jordan
Ryaner's birthday is February twenty ninth. Okay,

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yeah, that's weird. One other
friend growing up. I think it's

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the coolest. I'd just be a
March first guy. What do you mean,

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like for your party? Not three
to one all the time? Which

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lie? Why would you lie?
You you have You've been given the one

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special day. You're it. You're
different. Yeah too much? Yeah,

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I hope people to leave me alone. Well, I do think you're gonna

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come to your house, you know, or mine with some of those big

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checks, come on invited. What
encumbering big checks and big scissors to your

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house. I'll think of that stuff
the publisher's clearing house that didn't really happen.

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Right, this is just for commercials, right, I don't know.

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I will say in his very latest
years, mid mid nineties age, my

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grandfather got real into being sure that
he was about to break the bank with

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Publisher's clearing House. Yeah, so
we had volumes of encyclopedias and whatnot showing

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up at the house, volumes because
you had to buy stuff, i think,

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from Publishers clearing House the only way
you could get in there. They

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thought he cracked the code and just
kind of waited by the door every day

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for the for Ed McMahon or whoever
it was, to come on by.

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And you are correct, sir,
bring the big check. Do you think

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Ed McMahon humor's good again? It's
sort of like Harry Carey where you barely

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remember any of the real one.
Everyone just remembers the bad impressions. Yeah,

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so yes, that you are correct
sir. From what Phil Hartman,

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Yeah, I think Evan McMahon was
probably probably a funny dude. Weird wild

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stuff. Yeah, exactly, just
wild wild, so weird wild stuff.

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That's all we know is that's all
we know. Two lines from impressions.

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You think our listeners like that type
of humor? What rehashed Johnny Garzon and

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Ed McMahon bits from the early nineties. Yah, they probably do. Actually,

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at least they remember. There was
a couple of them out there going

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yeah, uh huh, well we
do do pretty good from thirty five to

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sixty five. It's that twenty five
fifty four's we're working on. Yesterday,

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with the help of our friend Brody, we took down the mailing industry.

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Yeah, there was a huge fire
at the envelope place right across the street.

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Today we're going after Cleete Blakeman.
Who's that? I know that name,

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but I don't know who it is. Who is that? He's the

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guy that you saw most on the
Cowboys game last night? Oh there he's

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a ref. Yes. How has
the NFL not made it very simple and

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said, look, do what you
do. We're going to stab your business.

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But on nationally televised games where there's
only one game on the docket Thursday

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night, Sunday night, Monday night, put it in your pocket and don't

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pull it out. If you do
pull it out, you're getting put on

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a registry list. Put it in
your pocket. Nobody wants that many penalties.

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Ever, how I'm bewildered by it. If you're one of seven games

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happening at noon on a random Sunday, no one cares. It's the one

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thing the whole world's watching it and
going in. I don't know if it's

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worth it. I was thinking about
how happy Amazon Prime. One Amazon Prime

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was that they have the Cowboys,
you know, yeah, like wow,

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okay, this is it like for
the Amazon Prime, this is their super

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Bowl because you're gonna get the numbers
and you got a good game. Okay.

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I didn't think about that, but
I do. I often wonder what

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the conversations, whether they be off
season or however this works with league officials

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and referees about about exactly that.
Because I do not subscribe to any script

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and all this refs or league wanting
anyone to win any particular game. I

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don't think that's true. I mean, we all in every sport piss and

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mount about referees when they don't go
your way. It's that simple. I

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don't think the league is out to
get anyone, but I as an overarching

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like theory, there is probably discussion
about that. Is our penalties impacting the

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game too much? Are they?
Or even whispers of look, I mean

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the cliche of there's a hold on
every play at the highest level. Has

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that been kicked around discussed and how
Because honestly, the best ref would be

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the one who's staring at the offensive
line and throwing flags all the time and

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then being justified and verified by the
replay. Like God, this ref's incredible.

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He's so good. He doesn't miss
the thing. He nails it every

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time. That was a hold that
impacted the play. That is a penalty.

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That's a great referee. Well but
or is that the guy at your

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office who he's up the boss's a
and you know, well there's also something

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to are the teams just kind of
sloppy? I mean, the Cowboys finish

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close to the lead league and penalties
pretty much every year, and Clate Blakeman

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and his referee crew one of the
least throwing a flag through referee cruise in

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the league. I believe they were
fifteenth out of seventeenth. They just happened

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to throw a bunch last night because
there was a lot of penalties to throw,

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I guess and watching them all away
sitting replays stuff, I was like,

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yeah, it's flag, Yeah,
that's flag. Yeah, yeah it's

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flat. But that's where I start
going, Okay, if you got to

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call blake blatant holding, yes,
so blatant pass interferancee yes, But you

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get to a couple and you're just
like, dude, come on, put

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it in your pocket. Yeah,
but imagine the chaos that they're seeing mm

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hmm, just the blended humanity in
front of you. It's such a hard

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job. It's so in real time, yes, with people running in front

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of you and you're back pedaling and
sweating and tired and freaking. I mean

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nothing in sports too, fatties like
us, And that's me, you and

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most people listening can't even begin to
understand. Sure, but that's another one.

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The refs football for every fatigue you
don't think about it, sweat a

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sweat, eye drop in your eye. I mean, it's really hard.

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It's hard so to miss one.
Fine, Oh, I don't care about

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missing one. I care about throwing
one on six straight plays that even if

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the replays jumps the file. Yeah. Yeah, And I don't really disagree

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because it's not fun. Just keep
it moving, keep it moving. We

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gotta get up and do a show, Okay, Jesus, this game was

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just farting around because we couldn't and
might crap about review too. If you're

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gonna use instant replay review, well
you better be one hundred percent at it

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otherwise it's a big waste of time. I'm fine with human error. Everyone

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gets screwed in life. Bottom line, you just do so I'm fine with

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it. I'm fine with human error. Let's go. But didn't you think

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they screwed up? The one is
the one reversal? Was it the touchdown?

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Boy? If everything we've been taught
is if it's not clear cut evidence

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to overturn it. I sure thought
that was a touchdown. Yeah, I

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mean it did at the ground,
but it didn't move it in. She

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seemed turn out to be a huge
play of the game too. Jackson Smith

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and Jigba he was pretty good to. Yeah. But yeah, well we're

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gonna talk about the Cowboys game at
seven. And you think there's some like

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an encryptied email thing where it's like, all right, let's or code words

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like hey, let's keep this game
moving. Guys like the that the the

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league tells the referees and that's a
wink, keep them in your pocket.

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You know what? Another way to
do that, to fix that with beat

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is one less ref Yeah, I
just you got eight. I need seven

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of you now, ye take a
day, hey, cleat rotating days off.

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Take a day. It's a long
season and just go one less ref

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and it's like, yep, call
everything you see. It's just like what

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a vibe if you're on the referee
crew. I know maybe they do,

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maybe they do get something from just
doing it. I felt this way about

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baseball empires over the years too,
though. I'm like, don't you want

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to like go home? You get
paid by the game, not the hour.

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Don't you just want to go home? Why are you having the world's

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smallest trake zone and why are we
allowing so many walks? Are you on

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another unpopular one? I think baseball
homeplate out umpires are incredible and do an

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incredibly good job. Mm hm that
we collectively are idiots. We want to

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yell and blame anyone for everything,
so we we hate refs. It's got

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to be the most I'm just gotta
be the most hated for one of the

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most right. Who loves refs?
Yeah? It makes it makes you go

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who wants to even do it?
Right? It's like a parking ticket writers?

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Yeah, I got a friend here, like, who are the people

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like? Damn nice? Well,
some people are doing it because they want

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to, but they think because they
have to or need a job or whatever.

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But refs. Are they want to
do it? They go through the

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training to do it, like a
pilot goes through training to be a pilot

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or yeah, but everyone likes pilots, do they I've seen trusting pilots weigh

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in over the years. Not really, you haven't. I've seen it on

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my side of town. Okay,
I got a body who refs. He's

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done some like worked his way up
to some college games and things like that.

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He goes to like I mean,
I want to give so much away

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because I think some of these things
are supposed to be kept quiet, but

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sometimes goes out during OTAs or even
training camp to like the star and you

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know officiates. You know, it's
like he's in the chain. What's his

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first and last name? Not doing
not doing it. I don't think he's

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an NFL game. Well, he
has a college games. I've seen him

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on TV. It's cool. Do
you think refs get approached to point shave?

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Basically? I thought you can say, like for a selfie at the

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airport, Okay, that's only Gene
Stereotor Hockey Lee and can you ed and

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Sean Hoy how many times he had
to do the first down for a selfie?

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Like, just you know, signal
first show it to me, you

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don't mind, Like, why do
I have a sterotory just standing there in

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his Tommy Bahama shirt? Like no, dude, give me, give me

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a pass. Interfere Like, what's
your favorite penalty you have? Thedaviest one

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is when there'd be the upper body
camera on them and then they would make

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the tripping motion and you'd miss you
just see them make it a weird hip

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thrust kind of motion as they moved
the right leg over their left leg to

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do the tripping side. So are
they approached about point shaving? Yeah,

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I mean they are that someone has
been you know what, like point shaving

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income It disappears and then there's a
big scandal and then it goes away for

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a few years and we all think, all right, well, thank god

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we cleared that out of this sport. And then it comes back like it's

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happening. Yeah, it's happening.
And I hate to say college basketball,

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and hell maybe NIL helps this.
I think NBA what was happening too.

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Yes, yeah, I mean you
have refs, yes, I mean players

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whatever, but a ref. The
thing is NFL refs I think tend to

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be successful people right, and whatever
their other field is. They all have

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other jobs, you know, they're
lawyers or whatever. I used to do

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the bit each week or find out
what they all do, could make sure

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really, yeah, who you're dealing
with? Are they mostly? And I

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can find Blakeman's referee crew what they
all do a lot of them lawyers?

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Yeah, the all people. Okay, Man, if you're a lawyer,

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I guess it means you have some
money. I mean, you can't have

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somebody who's just filed for bankruptcy as
an NFL referee, right for that reason,

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if if no other Yeah, Okay, this was the two hundred and

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fiftieth NFL game for Cleate Blakeman.
Okay, congratulations, And you know what,

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he might he might be waking up
this very morning and not that mad

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at him, because I mean,
the story on him is very simple.

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I told you earlier. Not known
is a big high penalty, you know,

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flag throwing crew. So Clate Blakeman's
crew has an attorney. Clite Blakeman

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then goes to Nebraska Mica Scott Campbell, and I'm gonna see if it's Scott

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Campbell. I've got the I've got
the officiating of the futures. He was

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the umpire. He is a firefighter, okay, just like us first responder.

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He might have had an off nights. He had a busy day that

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envelope fire across the street. Now, Dana Mackenzie is a claims adjuster.

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We've got a software quality assurance tester, what a court director, an engineer,

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project manager engineering. See, these
people all have boring jobs. So

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they did the referee thing to spice
up their sex life? Are they were

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tired? Some of these not like
the fireman. I guess you know a

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lot of these people are seemingly pretty
young here. So so Cleat Blakeman,

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is he could represent me if I
lived in Nebraska or wherever the holy practices.

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Cleate Blakeman, attorney at law.
I wonder look that up. Blakeman

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attorney at law. Oh my god, does he have a website? Yeah,

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Carlson and Blakeman there he is?
Holy crap? Is he in his

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outfit? Injury attorney and oma he's
the He's the Jean Burquette of Nebraska record

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setting injury lawyers. Oh that's not
it, Attorney Cleat Blakeman. If you're

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hurting Nebraska and it's not your fault. Still call the Frankeles. Yeah,

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just call them and then they'll tell
you who to contact. So this dude

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could be busting it all week in
court on Friday and then do you know

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how much refs get paid? No? Do you no? Because that's crazy,

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right, You're busy as hell all
week, you're stressed about some case,

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and then on a plane what Sunday
or Saturday night? And then that's

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why I said, if he was
listening, did he fly out last night?

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I doubt it. Highest paid refs
make two hundred and five k a

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year according to the Sporting News,
which we know that they've been falling off,

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so we had Sports Illustrated. I
think, well, they've been falling

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way off. But the Sporting News, when's the last time, You're like,

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it's my copy of the Sporting News. I used to love the Sporting

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and early two thousands there was maybe
no better magazine. And I'm taking that,

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sticking that to ESPN. The magazine
oh straight and s high for kids.

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ESPN spend half their money on just
that. The glossy quality stock fine

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nice for pictures. Sporting News thin
flimsy, so much news, so many

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words, and they would bold print
the player names too. Yes, yes,

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Oh, I love Sporting News.
I love getting their previews for each

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season and they would rank them.
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then. That's back when I really
really really liked sports. Now I'm kind

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of like, that's the thing.
It happens. I'm gonna say this.

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If you have a referee on your
crew, though, and you've had to

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throw a flag on four straight plays
because these nimrods can't stop holding, okay,

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they can't just play by the rules. And then you get to the

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fifth and sixth play and you got
Dana throwing a flag, and then you

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got Scott throwing a flag. It's
the equivalent of the guy making the meeting

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go fifteen minutes longer because he asked
a couple questions. Everyone in the room

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is ready to leave the State of
the Union address here, but we got

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a couple questions. And now that's
what those flags are. On play five

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and six, you just gotta tucket
at that point we've had four straight plays

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this play everyone cheat like I like
the purge. I can't stress that I'm

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sitting here watching the game and going, why would a casual NFL fan not

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of those two teams give a single
crap about this game anymore. Is a

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good entertaining game with no punts,
and we are getting a stop down every

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minute the lack of flow. I
was just I think you're applying too much

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to your early wake up time.
Yes, it's not just about keV Oh.

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Why can only come in and be
myself? Mike? Right, you

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know, I'm allowed to be a
little grumpy in the morning. I'm not

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afternoon grad No excuse for being grumpy
in the afternoon. You do afternoon drive,

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You come in, you're chippy,
you go home. Midday really depends

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on traffic. I give a little
bit of leeway to any grumpiness in the

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morning. They're depending on traffic because
midday you deal with rush hour traffic.

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For us, we're up God's butthole
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That's when we're up. So I
might be a little grumpy. Then.

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Now here's the thing. By the
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intolerable because everyone's going these a holes. Their day is over, and we

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seem drunk walking in the hall just
because we're Leary. We're Ronald Leary,

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and in my case, because I
have been drinking since eight am. You

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do sort of resemble Ronald Leary,
one of the most underrated Dallas Cowboys of

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all time. He deserves to be
in the Ring of Honor. Okay,

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it does start that campaign. Dad
that and Jim knocks into the Ragers Hall

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of Fame. I hate when I'm
walking. I don't hate it at all,

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but I think it's odd when we're
leaving here at ten ten oh five

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and you walk down the thing and
people say, good morning, Hey,

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good morning, what are you talking
about? That's a good night. I'm

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out I'm out here. What you're
talking about? I'm gonna jump in.

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We'll keep it fair. NFL wraps
an eye. Unlike Kevin, appreciate the

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near impossible job and completely unappreciated profession
that you've chosen on the weekends for two

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hundred grand not a bad weekend gig. Yeah. Look, and if I'm

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the only one, that's fine.
But I couldn't have been the only person

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going. You're not the only one
frustrated with FLAGS. But then I'm not

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frustrating with I'm not even frustrated with
bad reffing. I'm frustrated with FLAGS.

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I think the normal fan gets frustrated
with they think refs are coming after their

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team. Okay, and that's dumb, and it is dumb because everyone gets

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screwed. This is the whole thing
I've tried to like, everyone in life

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gets screwed a lot, So just
suck it up, Buttercup, that's the

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story here. But the most avoidable
thing in the world is all right,

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guys, you're on Amazon Private night, just a reminder, let's keep it

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moving. Let's not have forty flags. So you're saying, if it's like

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somebody jumps off sides on defense,
that's obviously fine, nothing you can do

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about that. Yeah, But you're
saying holds basically, Cup, Yeah,

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yeah, or just the nitpicky a
legal man downfield when the quarterback is rolled

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out to the right side and your
left tackles a little bit. Now,

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these are the rules of the sport. Yes, but you're no one watching

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that left tackle, that's right,
I mean, I mean yeah, I

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will get I will give you a
legal man down fields. It seems irritating

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at times. The easiest one too. Sometimes they they get the past interference

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because this happens fast. Past interference
is a huge penalty. I mean,

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dude, the cows that they had
a forty seven yarder and a forty yard

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past interference penalty last night. The
easiest thing to do is go, We've

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just after a brief discussion, we've
decided that the players got tripped up on

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each other. There's no pass interference
on the play. All right, move

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But the point of my this is
only a gripe on using the common effing

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sense. You're the only game tonight. Everyone's watching you, so don't make

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your product suck tonight, and you
make your product suck when it turns into

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a ref show, and it did
last night. Probably thirty million people watch

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that game. Kevin. It's the
National Football League. I think they're doing

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a okay. Well, they're doing
fine. They could be doing better.

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They I don't think they could.
I don't think the National Football League could

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be doing much better. As a
guy who pays for all these services,

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I think I have a right to
complain. I have a right to speak.

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We're not trying to muzzle you right
now, Bud. I don't have

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the masking shape. You know I'm
saying though, if not really, I

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mean, I yes, I would
prefer it to happen. But if Warton's

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Broncos game, which is one of
seven on Sunday let them fly. Who

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cares, No, one's not everyone's
watching it, but Sunday Night Packers,

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Chiefs World watching. Okay, so
you're saying how many people do think you're

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watching and saying, oh, this
product, it's just there's too many flags.

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I click, I'm gonna switch back
over to a lot of casual gold

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yes, and then what never to
return to the sport? Nothing back in

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a day. Yeah, I'm just
asking to make things better. I don't

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think that's a bad ass. Tell
you what would make things better? And

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I thought this forever and I've never
heard a real reason why it's not a

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good idea. Two past interference penalties. Okay, past interference, as we

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mostly know it is a fifteen yard
penalty. And then there's a flagrant past

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interference, which is spot of the
foel. Yeah, you can't have a

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tic tac forty yard PI. And
now the ones last night was a tackle,

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the one on whoever lock it?
I mean there were some bad ones,

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but make it fifteen yards. If
they're jostling for the ball and a

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guy gets a little twisted and maybe
maybe touches an arm and prevents it from

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going up fifteen yards, it's two
penal. Now, if you wrap the

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guy or in intentionally do it that
it's a flagrant PI and then you get

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it at the spot, then you
can have all fifty two yards. But

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if it's just you're playing, I
mean, what's harder on in all of

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sports than playing cornerback. It's the
hardest thing. And they it's getting tougher

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possible, and it gets harder and
harder as the league changes, throw more

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more freedom for offenses, and that
ain't change them because offensive numbers are down

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this year because teams are like,
screw it, we gotta go bendn't break.

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We're gonna have two safeties all the
time, now, you know.

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And you put two safeties back there
to make sure you're not giving up any

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deep balls, and everyone's like fine. And then once we get you into

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the red zone, we'll rush three
and we'll have eight guys back there and

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we'll just have a bunch of bodies
and we'll play some form of prevent and

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then I mean, this is offensive
numbers are down a little bit, So

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that's not gonna change there. They're
gonna keep making that way. But I've

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always agreed with you that passing interference
is two penal, and that's the flavored

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idea. Is good. I think
that does get into a line of what

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constitutes that, but we already have
what constitutes past interference, and like you

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said, launching yellow flags into the
sky, it's all up to them.

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Plus they don't review it, so
it and yes, if you start saying

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it's only a fifteen yard penalty,
you will get an increase in the intentional

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pass interferences. Yeah, which then
either should be reviewable or just you gotta

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throw it when you gotta throw when
it's obvious. It kind of covers both.

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My idea was that max of twenty
five, So fifteen if it's before,

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but if it's like the forty yard
bomb, then it's twenty five because

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then what stops the defensive back from
just go and screw it. I'm burnt

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tackle the guy? Flagrant flagrant?
Then you get the flagrant, and then

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you get the spot foul. Yes, but then they're gonna have so many

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conversations about was that a flagrant?
Now we're gonna go review was that flagrant

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pass interference? When you could just
go, wow, you know, twenty

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five yards? I mean they'll cut
off should be flagrant. Is intentional.

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Most others aren't intentional. Yeah,
because then if you do the twenty five

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yard thing, then you risk taking
the bomb away from football too. Yeah,

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you should do it every time you
to take my medicine here. Yeah,

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maybe I trying to make it better. That's all I'm trying to do.

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All we've done for twenty eight straight
minutes is make America better. Pushing

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Pete today? All right? Yeah, Friday, December, first downbeat.

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I'm Kevin, that's Mike's Roy Danny
Bayless. We'll be back on Monday.

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We'll see if he had a wild
night out at eight o'clock. JJ Jackson

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is here today as well, will
be if you want to call in and

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do this type of stuff. Two
on four eight one seven seven eight seven

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one nine seven one. We're gonna
talk Cowboys at seven. Let's talk football

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DFW if you if you got some
hot takes, you know, we'll let

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you get on the air at seven. Maybe. But the most important thing

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in the world on days like this
usually is the Cowboys run here, and

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it is. But we're gonna do
that at seven. So coming up next

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though, another big sports story that
has a lot of legs and a lot

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of angles, and I'm quite frankly
terrified about what it can mean for one

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of my favorite sports. Next on
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