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You're listening to the downbeat on ninety
seven to one the freak. I would

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say the top story today that we
had in town as the four people killed

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in a crash off I thirty five. Mike, you saw it, Yeah,

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he saw a little bit of it. JJSA a little bit of it.

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Driving in today. Four people who
had stolen a car and it was

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a police chase started in Irving two
am, give or take. The Irving

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police pulled over a car and they
hauled balls, and the chase made it

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all the way to thirty five right
of the Continental Exit. I don't know

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if they were on one of those
overpasses and fell off of it, because

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the car is situated directly underneath two
kind of elevated on ramps. But when

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I went by, man that car, like I told you guys, I

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saw from the worst side of the
car. Most of the pictures online are

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kind of from the better side of
the car. You couldn't even tell it

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was a vehicle. I'm pretty certain, without knowing for sure, that that

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car went off and overpass because all
of the angles that they're showing. They've

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got a drone camera up right now. Paige Ellenberger from Fox four is on

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the scene, grinding like the newswoman
she is, and they keep peering the

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camera up towards the overpass. Yeah, and I haven't read anything, but

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it seems to me that that car
went for a toss because it landed in

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a spot that there's no way that
it could have ended up there had it

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not dropped from above, right,
and if it didn't, I mean again,

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the cars annihilated. Yeah, so
I don't know that. Maybe they

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were going a one hundred and try
to take a turn, but I would

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guess they came off that thing.
The sheriff who was chasing them, they

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think he has a broken arm.
I saw that reported, but because he

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the vehicle that he was chasing crashed
into a light pole and then the light

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pole fell on the cop car.
Oh really, so his arm. The

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deputy injured his arm but expected to
be Okay, I said broken arm,

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that's incorrect. He injured his arm, so we don't know if it's broken

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or not. Much like Derek Leveley's
nose, which she still don't know.

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Jason Kidd said it wasn't. That
was weird. Yeah, but it's also

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like I don't know. At nine
the morning after a game. Do you

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when you're about to travel, do
you even have even talked to the doctors

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about if it's broken or not?
How fast do you know if something's broken

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immediately? Well, something as a
nose, I would imagine. I think

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a nose would be easy. That
Casey would have been able to put his

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hand on his nose and go,
yeah, it's broken. Ry And there

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was a giant lump in it.
I mean, it clearly looked broken.

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But and then yeah, is Casey
not even there anymore? I don't think

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you, Yeah, that's weird too
if that's not, because that was almost

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like underreported because he's yeah, Casey
Smith one of the best, Yeah,

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bench doctors. Very interesting. Oh
well, we's go ahead and get to

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our special guest today joining us now
on the Freak Hotline, Well, on

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the Freak Zoom line. It is
Sarah Abraham and I saw Farah on TMZ

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the other night. Now I'm gonna
let her kind of walk you through the

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nuts and bolts of this a little
bit. But there's a big proposed social

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media ban happening in Florida where if
you're under the age of sixteen years old,

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they're trying to get a bill passed
to where you can't use social media

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if you're under the age of sixteen, which is kind of crazy. Even

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their governor, whether you agree with
him or not, on some topics,

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Ron De Santas even said this might
be going a little too far. But

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this bill has gotten through one portion, it's heading to the next step,

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and they're trying to get this passed
through. And I feel like I saw

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a pharaoh on TMZ the other day
and felt like she was a little bit

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against this. Good morning, Sarah, thanks for joining the show today.

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Good morning, thanks for having me. I love that I get to talk

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and discuss with fellow parents, and
we're non parents, so I think it's

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good to have a discussion about this
if it's a faccine our youth and our

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children and next generations, for sure. Yeah, it's for full disclosure.

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I'm Kevin and then Mike here.
We don't have kids, but Danny does.

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But Danny doesn't have a teenage kid, so we're we're kind of out

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of the loop on that when it
comes to having teenagers. Listen to this

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fair Danny has tell her the ages
of your two kids. I have a

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thirty thirty one year old and one
that turns three in March. Oh my

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gosh, I love that. I
feel like that could be me. Uh

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what next? Yeah, Like I
feel like my daughter could be thirty and

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I'll end up having davies. Well, you had a child pretty young,

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right, well documented, you know
if people follow your story your trajectory sixteen

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yeah, fifteen, yeah, six, and IM pregnant and Sophia is turning

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fifteen this month. So yeah,
I don't know when I'll start over again.

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But yes, so you are.
You're thirty two, thirty one,

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thirty two. You should never ask
a woman their age, they say,

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but I just did it. That's
really fine. But you have Wikipedia too,

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is I actually look it up?
So thirty two just bit older than

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your oldest Danni Qui same age.
Okay, so on this this deal that

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I saw him because I saw on
TMZ and it was like, that's interesting.

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We don't have a bill like that
happening here. But I know it's

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like a big topic right now in
the world going on with like social media.

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So you have a fifteen year old
daughter? You said yes, And

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I think I just also think back
to when I was a teenager. I

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was definitely on the Internet myself before
sixteen, and I was writing blogs and

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having fun and just that's what we
did. Like that was part of community

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outside of school, and I went
to a public school. I think for

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my daughter, who is homeschooled,
I think taking away some of the online

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groups or online things that they have
for homeschoolers, I think would be really

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bad for like socialization. But I
also feel she is a celebrity child.

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I think a lot of kids are
using the Internet for income or branding or

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doing something of the sort themselves.
From living in Los Angeles for a bit,

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we saw that everywhere, and I
think if it came out of Florida

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and it turned into like a national
thing, I think that would really impact

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children in general. And also like
understanding online safety and how to turn people

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in. I did bring up you
know, predators or like criminal activity,

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you know, fraud scams, those
things get reported so it can help other

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people. And I just want to
want to be you know, doing even

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my post to chatbots or criminals,
to be honest, Like who else would

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I have to talk to you on
the internet sometimes? And I think I

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like doing things with my daughter,
whether it's our YouTube channels and whatnot.

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Too, like showing our trips and
stuff. So I think that would just

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kind of infringe upon like even me
being a good parent. You know,

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there's the drinking age, and in
most states is twenty one, but not

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everybody is over twenty one that drinks. There are going to be endo rounds

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for kids to be able to use
the internet, to be able to use

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social media if they're under sixteen.
Regardless of whether this passes, it kind

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of seems like, why would they
spend so much effort, so much time

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and investing in its legislation if the
reality of the situation is the kids are

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going to get online anyway, right? Yeah, I agree. I think

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we saw that with TikTok. Sophia
when she was thirteen, got a TikTok

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because all of her friends had tiktoks. But TikTok actually ended up banning my

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daughter at thirteen, making an example
of her, and it was it felt

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very unfair because all the other kids
were having underage kid account on TikTok and

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that was majority of the accounts on
TikTok at the time when we're at thirteen

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years of age, so I didn't
see that hold up. It was very

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unfair to the kids. So I
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know why we're wasting our time with
this. So yeah, did they make

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an example out of her because of
your fame? Yes? So I literally

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had to change her account to Farah
and Sophia for many years just so that

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she could still get on the internet
on TikTok. Yet her other friends who

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were not famous could stream all day
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It was a pretty sad experience,
and I think about that heavily when I

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hear something like this, this is
Farah Abraham joining us. See, I

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kind of agree, But there are
statistics on you know, teenage suicides going

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straight up sort of in the same
arc that social media came into our live.

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Self esteem is a really concerning issue, and I always think of this

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like, if you're a kid at
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popularity with social media, you actually
have this like number that determines how popular

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you are. And I just feel
like that's such a pressure pack thing that

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we, maybe as adults who didn't
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everyday life, can't even really quantify
how significant this is to young people.

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Now, I don't think I'm really
arguing that it should be stopped. But

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do you think there's any middle ground? Is there any regulation by parents that

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should have a hand in the exposure
that their kids have to social media that

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frankly might just make them sad more
often than it should. So I've watched

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many documentaries on the usage of cell
phones with teenagers, the impact. I

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also have done a lot of psychological
work myself on shame spirals, self esteem.

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I went to a trauma center just
because of like bullying and a lot

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of things that I have to deal
with it on the internet consistently. I

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have to say what changed me was
having a better inner toolkit with myself,

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a better inner dialogue, journaling daily, but working on my self esteem in

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those shame spirals so you have more
resilience, I think is a tool that

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you must have. And I went
on to teach my daughter this so that

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she could be more successful with using
online and safety and also her mental health.

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So I think not only should I
just say, oh, let's take

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away the Internet, but I should
say what can I do to phrase the

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grit the resilience in myself, my
mental health and my well being. So

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I can be prepared for this,
and I think a lot of teenagers definitely

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lack that, and that is sad, and that's what I've seen. I

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do feel like we are in a
very unique time in culture where the kids,

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a large portion of the kids that
are growing up in no other world

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other than an internet world, in
a social media world, A lot of

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them probably have parents that didn't so
there is a chasm between the two.

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The parents didn't grow up equip to
understand this stuff. And the fact that

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technology is exponentially the growth of technology, technology is infinancial, are exponentially growing

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more than our emotional maturity. Is
that it's going to take the generation of

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the kids that are on social media
now for them to have kids for there

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to be a true connection and true
understanding. Just seems like there's a disconnect

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right now. Yeah, yeah,
I would agree. I mean, I

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think what you just said is like
me, my generation, we are using

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the internet. I have to take
care of my mental health, you know,

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go to trauma centers or whatever to
make sure that that's in check,

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so my resiliency is up. Otherwise
I would just delete all of my accounts

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and go into a hole, because
I couldn't be able to tolerate it,

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or you know, there's sadder things
in that. So I think those gaps

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need to be filled. And I
think that's what I'm putting myself out there

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and doing not only for myself but
my child. My parents definitely would just

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get off the internet. So maybe
there is that age gap, but mental

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health online social media, mental health
support needs to be number one. How's

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it different for her your daughter?
I suppose, I mean you, you

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have a unique past and you've done
you have some things on the internet that

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most parents don't. I'll put it
like that. So how does that play

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with your daughter? And how does
the I suppose conversations happen with your daughter

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when you're like, look, yeah, mommy's famous, but mommy also did

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some pretty wild stuff, some pretty
unique stuff. How do you have that

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chat? And I assume you've had
it. Yes, So I always take

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the opportunity to talk about what's on
the internet, our self worth, our

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behavior. Again, mental health is
number one. I have talked to Sophia

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about everything. Saffia is also famous. Sofia and I became famous together,

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like I was like we were born. She has born on MTV and we

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became famous together, so I took
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the differences. And I think I
think a lot of children just do not

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get to have the talk. And
as I've seen as being the aunt that

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I am, I'm an aunt to
so many in my family, and when

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I talk about self worth and not
sending pictures out to boys, we had

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like an issue in the family where
people were sending pictures out and they thought

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I was best to talk about that
because I do believe in like DMCA takedowns

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online, protecting your copyrights, your
intellectual property online, your pictures, your

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videos, and learning how to do
that. And that's why I have branded

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myself and I make lots of income
from the internet. But I do think

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a lot of the kids are not
getting those talks, and it's affecting their

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relationships, their birds and bees conversations, and I think they need to be

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included, maybe younger, so that
there's no discrepancy in our behaviors and how

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that translates to online. If that
answers that no, no, that was

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going to answer in a good question
too, I think this is fair.

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Abraham joining us in ninety seven,
one of the freak fair for just one

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second. I talked to the guys
for a second. This is a quick

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sidebar. Yes, did you guys
get the birds and the bees talk?

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Because I did not. But I
had older you know, just older cousins

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and people around. He's kind of
I felt like I knew a lot in

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second third grade. You know,
I didn't know as much as I thought

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I did. But also, the
internet back then was way different than the

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Internet was, you know when I
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or ninety nine, you know,
way different than when kids. I mean,

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because a lot is out there on
the Internet. Now, did you

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guys illustrated book handed to me and
illustrated book? Yeah? I had illustrated

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book handed to me, and I
had images. And then if I didn't

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follow up questions, which I did, my dad tried to have the talk

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with me, but he gave me
a lot of what I learned later to

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be wrong information. Huh. Yeah, And I didn't figure that out until

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I was like thirty. It's like, honey, you're doing it wrong.

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Oh well that's my dad said,
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Yeah. Real talk I had was
like my dad explaining to me what

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nine to eleven meant, like what
was going on? Like that was the

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talk? It was like a sex
talk. So did you have that fair

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or what was that like? So
growing up for myself, you know,

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sexual education, birds and beans,
talks of things. My parents actually chose

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to have me out of those.
I vividly remember that to take me out.

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I remember in fifth and sixth grade, I was not allowed to be

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in the sex said course that they
wanted, and I think any other sex

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said course that we got, even
when I was at my private school and

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we were teenagers. It was said
in a way of like this could harm

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you or kill you. It wasn'tsane
in a way of like relationship safety,

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your mental health towards sexual behavior.
And I think those two components are always

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missing in our sex said. I
would agree that I even think kindergarteners need

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to start having sex. Said.
I was appalled as a parent to have

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my child come home or even when
I was at school and I had kindergarteners

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talking about sexual things, or my
daughter is saying that someone's bringing up my

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sex life to her. So I
have been dealing with that since she's been

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in kindergarten and just kind of being
appalled with how other parents would deal with

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that. I think the school just
basically says stop talking about those things,

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and I think we're not. I
think a lot of people are just scared

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to include youth in sexual education,
mental health behavior around sexuality, and I

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think that's why we get a lot
of kids, teens who are confused.

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They have to do trial and error. I do think the Internet is kind

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of powerful in a way of Wow, if I don't know something, if

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I don't know about medications, if
I don't know about what doctor, or

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like, find a real professional to
get some real answers here rather than being

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in the midst of my parents' talks, my sister or my brother weird friends,

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Like, there needs to be something
credible in place, maybe a LAH

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for you know, our youth to
have credible education. And I think that's

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also eighty eight compliance around sexual education. I think it's needed. Do you

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feel like the people that are outspoken
advocates for you know, not teaching this

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stuff about you know, banning social
media for kids, maybe, uh,

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the people that are pulling their kids
out of out of the sex aid classes,

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like much like your parents did the
ones that are so outspoken against the

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things that you were kind of fighting
against. There's a huge element of hypocrisy

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in that that if you actually pulled
back the curtain on these people's lives and

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looked at your at their browser histories, your eyes would pop out of your

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head. Yeah, that's no surprise
to me. And I also think when

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I was a teen parent and I
was blamed for you know, like my

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birth control not working. You know, how is a young teenager supposed to

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pick up the pieces and educate themselves
when they're taken out of classes. They

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weren't taught habitually year after year.
They weren't like there's just a whole component

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that's a fail systemically, I would
say, in our governments, our society.

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And then parents blame their kids,
and I have to say that that's

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really backwards. And I think how
that could change is just like a simple

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act of making it mandatory for all
these mental health things around, you know,

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sexuality, birds and bees, knowing
your doctors. I think that's all

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just really good to have. So
if they're being told something and influenced by

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stories or peer pressured, they can
say no, that's not for me.

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Because I have the right tools,
I have the right education, and maybe

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we you know, maybe you want
to have seen me do some things.

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But I didn't know mental health back
then, and today I do. And

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so that's why I really love sharing
everything and not being scared to share it

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to my teenager or my child over
the years. I love that this is

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Fairah Abraham on ninety seven one the
freak, Now you did did you grow

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up and go to school in Nebraska? That's I'm just going off Wikipedia here,

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like or did you had you so? Shout out to Thomas Jefferson High

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School. I was there in Iowa, Yes, and I love growing up

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there. I miss Iowa. It's
amazing. Okay, so Middle America.

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I can see their take on sex
and how early you should know about sex

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is probably a little different. I
mean, I know when small town that

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I'm from, it would not be
something you would ever talk about with your

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parents or anything like that. But
that's I'll talk with you about it.

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Yeah, Danny, I mean Danny
and I are from small town and Mikey

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went to Sarasota. Guy a big
city guy, you know, speaking big

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cities. You ever spend time in
Dallas? Any wild times in Texas.

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Yeah, of course I love Austin, Texas and based there. Now I

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have dated someone in Dallas. I
love to go to Dallas, Houston.

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I like all of Texas actually,
so yeah, I read on your U

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on TMZ it said you're I don't
know if it's current, but your boyfriend

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you met on your only Fans.
Yeah, I certainly did. I think

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anyone can meet anyone any place with
their you know, dating principles in place.

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So that's what I employ with anyone
who I date. Well, how

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did anywhere? How did you get
him the green light? Did he make

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the coin sound effect go off a
lot or how did that work? Well?

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Definitely on only Fans, it's about
tipping in money, So there was

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that component for sure to get my
attention because it's pretty busy with millions of

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people on there. But I also
did a dating program called The Guardian of

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Your Soul and with coaches and a
lot of psychological work, and so I

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kind of have dating principles and things
I abide by, and if someone is

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in alignment with what I do,
my future and my relationships with I definitely

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would take a date and you know, date them. So yeah, he's

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a good person. Are you still
very active on OnlyFans? I know you're,

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Uh, your Twitter thing has a
lot of links to it. I

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just we not obviously no numbers,
but I think it's fascinating, like the

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kind of unlimited income that you can
make at five bucks ahead or eight bucks

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ahead or whatever it is. Is
that is that something that's turned into like

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kind of a financial windfall that you
know you wouldn't even thought of however many

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years ago. Yeah, I really
enjoy it. I keep it healthy for

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myself. Again, that's like per
the person and how you conduct yourself,

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but I keep that healthy and happy. I think I would actually be sad

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if I ever closed my only Fans
because I just sort of like a Farah's

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like group on Instagram and I just
kind of showed some of us like the

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feedback I get on there and it
makes you laugh. It makes me happy,

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and so I think if it's still
joyful and positive, then I'm going

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to keep doing that and aside from
making money and income and inviding by laws

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and policies, which I love and
it keeps me happy. So yeah,

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I don't really look at OnlyFans as
a negative. I like that they abide

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by laws. That's really important.
I gotta be quick here because we're almost

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out of time, and I want
to tell you I did not see this

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episode, but there's he's been the
news around here this week because he's starting

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a TV network in Fort Worth.
Is doctor Phil of Looney Tune. I

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did not see the episode you were
on years ago. I just but yeah,

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is he a kook? Yeah?
I'm done with persuading audiences to dislike

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youth and dislike young women. So
I will not be watching Doctor Phil.

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That's note for me, all right. Yeah, suck it, doctor Phil.

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Yeah, uh uh, Pharah,
thank you for the time. We

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really appreciate it. Do you want
to plug your accounts or anything like that

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or anything? Where can they find
you? No? Just I wish you

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never want a happy Valentine's Day.
Thanks so much for having me. I

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appreciate you all. Thank you,
thank you, fair appreciate it. I

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have a great day. She goes, stay in powered, young queen.

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All right, all right, A
lot of feedback on the text. Yeah,

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tex Mex going wild? What a
bess? I mean, dude,

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that's quite a life. Someone text
me hey today they said she was on

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the teen Mom show like they were
like or sixteen break She was like kind

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of one of like she really had
it together compared to and she got obviously

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big time famous after that with the
you know the movie that was made but

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Backdoor teen Mom starring James Dean.
He's in trouble too and he's always in

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the allegations on him were pretty bad. Yeah, he's great, he plays

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rough. Yeah man goin all right, Well there was that went a week

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man that just happened. Coming up
next, do we guess? Will you

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give some purses? Why is this? And your talkbacks from the red microphone

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