1 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:32,439 Tonight's guest is Trevor. Trevor, Welcome to the show. Thank you, 2 00:01:32,519 --> 00:01:36,560 beck Well, thank you, thanks for coming on. I appreciate your time. 3 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:42,799 Trevor, please give us a brief bio on yourself. I'm twenty five 4 00:01:42,879 --> 00:01:45,760 years old. I grew up in Illinois. I grew up around nature. 5 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:52,200 I was in boy Scouts. I like nature and wildlife, so I've done 6 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:57,439 my hunting and fishing. You just said that you like nature and wildlife after 7 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,480 you have those bad dog me encounters. You're gonna tell us abo tonight, 8 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:04,359 do you still have that appreciation for nature and wildlife or do you try to 9 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,039 avoid the woods at all costs. Vic I still had the appreciation for nature 10 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:12,960 and being out in the woods. I won't be out in the woods by 11 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,879 myself, but I will go out in the woods and fish at night and 12 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,479 stuff like that. I can understand why you wouldn't want to be in the 13 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,599 woods alone after the encounters you're going to talk about tonight. That's totally understandable. 14 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,039 We're here to talk about all the dogman encounters you've had, but they're 15 00:02:30,039 --> 00:02:34,960 not the only creepy things you've had encounters with. Please talk us through that 16 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:43,080 vic. Most of my grandparents' houses, they had the old eighteen fifties, 17 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:50,240 the old soul war aged or older houses. So there's been some fair share 18 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,599 of paranormal stuff that I've dealt with, ghosts and demons here, and disembodied 19 00:02:55,719 --> 00:03:00,879 voices and stuff. Considering the fact you've had demon encounters, ghost encounters, 20 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:05,599 and of course dog meant encounters, do you think the encounters with demons and 21 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:08,680 ghosts are easier to deal with or more difficult to deal with in your dog 22 00:03:08,759 --> 00:03:15,159 meet encounters. For demon and dogman encounters that I've had, I would say 23 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:21,159 those two are they are actually harder to deal with than actual spirits because ghosts 24 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:25,400 and spirits they're kind of if you think of it, they're probably deceased humans, 25 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:35,800 so it's more easy to comprehend this is what a wandering soul or somebody 26 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,960 who hasn't been able to pass onto the afterlife. I figured your encounters with 27 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:44,879 spirits would be a lot easier to deal with, but the ones with demons, 28 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:47,360 I wasn't really sure if those were worser easier to deal with than the 29 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:53,639 dog meeting encounters. If you had, well, the demon encounters I've had, 30 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:59,840 I've almost been possessed by these demons, so it takes a certain amount 31 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,199 of will pier not to be possessed. Well, that's frightening. Sorry to 32 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,639 hear that you had a lot of trouble sharing your dog me and encounters with 33 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:12,240 me the first time around. How much trouble have you had function the affort 34 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,879 of having those encounters, Trevor Well, I grew up in a farmer that's 35 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:27,519 full of Christians, and they didn't necessarily believe in like the paranormal or anything 36 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:36,240 that science or religion couldn't explain. So I couldn't really turn to my family 37 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:42,240 or friends because a lot of them would say, oh, you just it's 38 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,720 nonsense, you're crazy, or if you try to talk about it again, 39 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:49,680 we're gonna lock you up, put you in a straight jacket or whatnot. 40 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,000 Really, it's a shame that's to be that way, But it's not just 41 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,079 you, A lot of eye witnesses of experienced that really is a shame. 42 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,800 After being so strongly affected by your encounters, what's been the most extreme thing 43 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:09,639 you've done to try to come to terms with them? The most extreme? 44 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:15,600 I would say it seems like we dealing with any kind of trauma it seems 45 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:18,759 like a lot of people go to alcohol and drugs, and that's kind of 46 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:27,240 the route I went to cope with everything as self medicate to try to outrun 47 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,079 the problems. Wow. Well, it goes without saying I'm so sorry to 48 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,720 hear the ad to resort to that to try to come to terms with them. 49 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:40,720 How much is your ability to do normal things been compromised. I used 50 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,920 to be able to go out in the woods and fish and go hiking and 51 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:53,279 camping by myself, and I can't do that normal that I've experienced them more 52 00:05:53,360 --> 00:06:00,399 by myself than with other people. So like the old saying goes safety in 53 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,000 numbers, it goes without saying I sure hope that some days sooner you're able 54 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,600 to head back into the woods without any trouble and have a great time the 55 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,680 way you used to at one point. But time will tell. Why do 56 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,759 you think it is that you've had so many encounters with dog mean, Trevor, 57 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,360 I don't know. I'm either very lucky or very unlucky. Vic I 58 00:06:23,519 --> 00:06:27,439 really can't answer that one, because it's it's one of those things that's like 59 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,120 asking why I've had so many encounters with ghosts and demons. It's one of 60 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:39,399 those things that it's hard to explain because it's like you never know when this 61 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,920 stuff will happen to you. It just a lot of times it just happens 62 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,759 out of nowhere. I think I know the answer to that question. Some 63 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,560 people are just magnets for these things, and I think that's what you are. 64 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:55,759 You must be a magnet and they're drawn to here for whatever reason. 65 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,879 Unfortunately, if you've had a dog meant encounter, like to speak with me 66 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,439 about it, whether I'm private or on the show, please go to dog 67 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:08,959 Mean Encounters dot com and submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting 68 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:11,600 and would like to be a guest on one of my two Bigfoot shows, 69 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,360 please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let me know. Besides me, 70 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,720 the only are the people you've shared your encounters with until now, That 71 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,519 is, have been two friends of yours. How do they respond when you 72 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:30,399 told them, Well, like I've known they're both girls. I've known them 73 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:36,319 for at least fifteen years, and one of them actually lives in a haunted 74 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:43,199 HAPs and has spirits and stuff, and they know me as the type of 75 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 person. I'm not a jumpy type of person. I'm not a skittish person 76 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:54,279 by nature. And the fact that I refuse to talk about my encounters with 77 00:07:54,399 --> 00:08:03,199 demons and dogmen compared to like talking about my experiences with spirits, they know 78 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:07,560 that it messed me up. Well, yeah, when you have the experiences 79 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,399 that you're going to tell us about tonight, that's going to mess premature anyone 80 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,720 up. Yeah, they're really intense. Speaking of that, Trevor, please 81 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:18,839 tell us about them. Now, give us every last detail that comes to 82 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:26,879 mind. I grew up in a little small village on the Mississippi and it's 83 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:31,399 called Elsa, and there was like a subdivision up on the bluffs. There 84 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,279 was like this big, long, windy road going up the hill. It 85 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:43,960 was surrounded by farmlands and woods and the bluffs. But the college that is 86 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,240 in actual Elsa itself owns a lot of that property, the bluffs and the 87 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,600 stuff for whatever courses they may have. I don't know, because it's a 88 00:08:54,799 --> 00:09:00,559 kind of a Christian college. So I lived up in the little sub division 89 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:07,960 above Elsa. So there's like several different roads, a lot of them dead 90 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,399 ended or had a little turnabouts where yet you could go down and then turn 91 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,639 around and go back up the road. I lived on one of those said 92 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:22,440 roads. We had woods and stuff on the backside, but we had enough 93 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:28,919 of like a clearing for like a backyard, and we had the basements were 94 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,440 kind of built into like the bluffs, and then you had like a sliding 95 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,159 glass door where opened up into the backyard. And then you had like the 96 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,559 upstairs where you would have your main floor that you would come in that had 97 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:46,720 like the living room, the extra bedrooms in the kitchen, and a bathroom, 98 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:50,000 and then there was another sliding glass door that went onto like a wooden 99 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:56,759 deck, and the front of the house it had like a overhang with poles, 100 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,200 so it was kind of like an awning. I had a concrete base, 101 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:07,600 and we had like two dogs that had plastic doghouses. They sat underneath 102 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:15,080 where my bedroom window would be, not exactly under it, but like kind 103 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,639 of off to the side to where I could look out my window during the 104 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:24,120 day and look out and see them. And this was late February early March 105 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:30,759 of oh four. These houses are no longer there, but we had an 106 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:37,080 abandoned house that sat on the left side of our house. On the right 107 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,039 side, there was another family that lived on the other side, and their 108 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,000 whole yard was fenced in with privacy fences. And then on the other side 109 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:52,360 of that abandoned house was a summer home. There was people that lived there 110 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:56,279 during the summer, but would be gone through the fall and the spring and 111 00:10:56,919 --> 00:11:01,360 winter, and then come up late spring, early summer. And then we 112 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,480 had a house across the street. They had a white you know, like 113 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:13,279 the old farm picket fences, and then the road would go down and there 114 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,639 was like a turnabout, and it was that turnabout was in the middle of 115 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:20,600 woods. It was compassed by woods on all sides. But growing up we 116 00:11:20,639 --> 00:11:26,720 would go and we would watch coyotes and deer in our backyard from the basement 117 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:31,919 looking out the glass window. So I seen a lot of wildlife up close, 118 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,240 but behind a kind of like a zoo, my own little personal zoo. 119 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,639 But they got to free room, they got to leave whenever they wanted. 120 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:50,240 So my mom and my sister's biological debt. They slept in the basement. 121 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,559 Me and my sister slept upstairs. My room was on the far left 122 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,480 and my sister's room was on the far right. Both of our windows had 123 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:05,720 the big glass windows that had like glass on the inside a screen in the 124 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:09,120 middle, and then a glass on the other side, and then on the 125 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:16,279 sides had the little basement windows on the sides of the rooms, so you 126 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,840 could you had like a little slit where you can still look out and see. 127 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,919 But it wasn't like a big window, you know. As a little 128 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,120 kid, I had to stand up on my bed and whatnot just to be 129 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:33,720 able to look out the window. I don't exactly remember the day or what 130 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:39,799 the weather was like, so I can't give you the accurate details of that. 131 00:12:41,159 --> 00:12:46,960 My parents would put me and my sister to bed around eight thirty nine 132 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,559 o'clock. I would still be up for at least an hour hour or two 133 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:58,320 because I had difficult sleeping even as a kid before my encounters. My bed 134 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,919 sat underneath the little slit window in my bedroom, and I laid and faced 135 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,120 the wall all the time and would listen to my dogs from the outside scurry 136 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,240 around looking because they would kill rattlesnakes that would come up into the yard at 137 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:20,879 night or whatnot and kill them, so I didn't hear them this night. 138 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,200 It was to me it was weird. So I was like because I would 139 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,720 fall asleep listening to that as well as the sounds of nature. Because my 140 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:33,720 little tiny window above my bed, it would be cracked during this late winter 141 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:43,000 early spring to let in fresh air. So I'm six years old. I 142 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:50,360 was facing the wall like I normally always did to go to bed, and 143 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:54,519 then I would listen to nature and whatnot. I didn't hear nothing, which 144 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:01,120 was weird because you know, I'm so used to hearing all the noises and 145 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,480 not hear any of it was kind of kind of scary as a kid. 146 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:16,120 So I rolled over onto my back and looked out the window. I had 147 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:20,679 like a thin curtain where you can still see through it from the outside in 148 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:28,679 and then vice versa. So I rolled over kind of had my head propped 149 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:39,480 up on the pillow looking out the window. I see. So when I 150 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:41,960 first when I first saw it, I thought it was one of my dogs 151 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:48,919 in the window. And then I kept looking at it and I noticed it 152 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,240 wasn't one of my dogs because it was way too big to be one of 153 00:14:52,240 --> 00:15:05,759 my dogs. And I it had like the face like the classic wolf face, 154 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:13,240 with like the Dohaman or dog gears up top of their head. They 155 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:20,360 were perked up looked like little arrows pointing up towards the sky. The eyes 156 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:31,919 were like a yellowish kind of like a red. Because we I give me 157 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:46,840 a second, VIC, you're doing fine, take your time. Sorry, 158 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,360 I started feeling sick from my stomach talking about it. Oh no, I 159 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:56,279 understand, there's no rush. Please do take your time. They had like 160 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:03,399 the classic timber wolf face, like the classic doverman, pointed ears for its 161 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:07,759 head, and it had like the yellowish red eyes just staring back at me. 162 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:15,399 And I had it kind of had it was standing up on its hind's 163 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,679 legs. They had one hand completely down, like kind of off to its 164 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:22,000 side, a little bit out in front of it, but it was the 165 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:29,080 one hand was like it was you couldn't see it from where I was at, 166 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:37,960 but you could see it kind of looked like overgrown raccoon hands or Paul's. 167 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:47,159 But it had like four long fingers with like dagger like claws. I 168 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:52,120 would say they were probably ever a bit of six to seven inches long, 169 00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:59,639 and the claws were and the fingers you could have easily put a size fifteen 170 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:07,279 on its fingers, give or take. It had its hand pressed up against 171 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,759 the outer glass of pane, kind of just barely touching it. It was 172 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:22,720 black as night. It was. I didn't really pay attention too much to 173 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,240 its teeth. I was just trying to wrap my head around the fact that 174 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:37,400 how big it was. Because it was it was massive. It made my 175 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:45,759 parents look small. And my parents are like five maybe six foot tall, 176 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:56,079 so it was taller than them. Had the body builder upper torso like take 177 00:17:56,319 --> 00:18:03,720 what rock looks like today, you know the wrestler or whole Cogan. It 178 00:18:03,799 --> 00:18:11,920 had the massive upper chest and everything. The upper body was just massive. 179 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:21,279 I had to guess it was probably ever bit of seven in between six and 180 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,079 seven feet tall, because I didn't see the waist down. I saw the 181 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:33,880 waist up because of how the window sat. It was. It was massive. 182 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,440 The hair on its arms and all over its body was. It was 183 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:51,839 black. It was as black as freshly brewed coffee. Black. It stood 184 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:57,920 there and stared at me for I would say a good five or ten minutes 185 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:04,960 or so. It must have put too much pressure on the glass where it 186 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,519 had its hand, because the glass broke, and it was so quick. 187 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:15,000 Happened so quick it was like he accidentally put too much pressure and then disappeared. 188 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:22,519 After it broke. It like startled him. And that's when you know, 189 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:26,799 the nature sounds came back after he disappeared. We had like an eight 190 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:32,720 foot privacy fence in front, so it literally had the vertical jump to clear 191 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:41,480 that eight foot fence and disappeared. This next encounter happened in between Jerseyville and 192 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:51,039 Shipman, my mom's now second husband. They got married that year in June 193 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,440 and it was a No. Nine. So I spent a lot of time 194 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,799 out at my stepdad's mom's house, who had a like an old farmhouse. 195 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:15,720 They had probably every bit of eight acres or so of land, and it 196 00:20:15,839 --> 00:20:21,559 was like kind of hilly, but not too hilly to where it was like 197 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:26,000 it was hilly enough where if you went down the hill and went up the 198 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:30,119 hill, you got a nice decent workout walking up and down these hills. 199 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:38,000 Where the road set. There was a field across from my stepgrandmother's house that 200 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:45,160 it was had corn they've just harvested it. And then there was i would 201 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:52,759 say about a hundred yards from where the house, and like a straight line 202 00:20:52,920 --> 00:21:00,039 was like the big whole barn tool shit that had all the big mowers and 203 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:07,440 stuff for farming, because they farmed hay and we had like a hay field 204 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:14,279 over near on the back far side of the property because they used to have 205 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,960 hogs too. This was before I was born, as when they had hogs, 206 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:25,559 so they had a hog barn all the way in the very back pretty 207 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,920 much nustled in like a kind of a looked like a perfect sea grove of 208 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,640 like trees behind it. It was like nustled perfectly in like the trees where 209 00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:38,400 there was enough space to where you had a clear view around it, but 210 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:44,680 then there was trees. There was two outhouses on the property. There was 211 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:52,799 the one was the old fashioned wooden walls porta potty with like the moon crescent 212 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:59,200 moon in it and the door. And then there was an actual like you 213 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,359 know the construc duction porta potties over by the near the house as well as 214 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,240 there was also a bathroom and a shower and stuff in the actual house. 215 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:15,160 I love spending a lot of time out there because they had BlackBerry bushes. 216 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,240 They had We had our own garden out there where we grew our own vegetables, 217 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:26,680 so like peas and carrots and so on. They also had an abandoned 218 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:33,559 greenhouse too on the property that was used for storage. But there was at 219 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:44,680 least a good five six acres of woods around the property too, because my 220 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:49,359 grandmother owned one property and then the next property over was owned by my step 221 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:56,160 aunt at the time, so we had her her property that we could hunt 222 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,920 on as well as my grandmother's property. And me and my stepdad would go 223 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,480 out every hunting season on the weekends when I was out of school and we 224 00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:11,400 would go hunting. And this was November twenty eight, twenty ninth of O 225 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:18,119 nine. I was staying out there. I think I was helping my grandmother 226 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,000 with helping her out on the property. I don't exactly remember what I was 227 00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:29,680 helping her with, but I liked my own privacy, so I would stay 228 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,680 in my stepdad camper, who we would normally stay in anyway during hunting season. 229 00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:37,400 So anytime I would stay out there, I would stay out in the 230 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:41,880 especially if I was by myself with my out there with my grandmother, I 231 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,359 would stay out there in that camper. So I had my own space. 232 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:52,039 And there was two entrances to the property. There was the main drive and 233 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:56,119 then there was like a little side access where it was it was a kind 234 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,720 of like a farmer access where we could come up with like the four wheelers 235 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:07,720 or the four wheel drive vehicles, and not really damaged the yard any But 236 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:15,559 my stepdad's camper sat kind of inside the pull barn where it was open facing 237 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:21,880 that second access point because we would take the four wheelers in and out of 238 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,720 that way. Mainly we would take the main vehicles in and out of the 239 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,839 main drive. So the house and the pull barn itself set up on a 240 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:38,079 hill overlooking the road, and it was like the little hitch campers. It 241 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,640 was like all contained in one spot. There was really no rooms. It 242 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:47,240 was just like all in one spot. It was like small. The dining 243 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:53,039 table folded down into a bed, and then it had like a bunk beds 244 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:59,920 and then it had a bathroom. But the bathroom was I don't know exactly 245 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,519 of what was wrong with it, but the bathroom didn't work. It was 246 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:07,680 basically where we stored the bows and the guns for when we went hunting, 247 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:14,240 and then we had our hunting clothes up above where my stepdad would sleep on 248 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:18,680 the bottom bunk of that bunk bed set. We would have our hunting clothes 249 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:22,960 up there, and then we had like a little kitchen sink and then like 250 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:29,839 a kitchen counter thing and cabinets, and then you had like a little four 251 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:37,640 foot by I would say eight little cubby hole where you could stick you like 252 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,119 your boots and stuff. But it went but far enough back to where it 253 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:48,480 could fit a good size person if you really wanted to hide under there. 254 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:59,279 And the camper set about fifty feet away from the outhouse out there, so 255 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,960 if you had to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night, 256 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,640 you would grab a flashlight off the counter and walk out there shining a flashlight 257 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,839 so you don't trip over anything. So it was dark enough to where I 258 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:18,160 needed a flashlight, because you know, like full moons, you can have 259 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:22,400 that light where you can see. So it was dark enough to where you 260 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:29,200 required a flashlight, Like you couldn't see more than like maybe your arm length 261 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,880 in front of you without any light, but you could see shadows off in 262 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:40,240 the distance or whatnot, because that road was kind of well lit because of 263 00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:47,200 all the farmers. So I just took my medicine. I was getting the 264 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,240 whole ready to go to bed and everything. I needed to go to the 265 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,720 bathroom. So I grabbed the flashlight and I walked out and I went to 266 00:26:55,839 --> 00:27:02,119 the outhouse to go to the bathroom and do my business. And then as 267 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,519 I was coming back, because I had the flashlight pointed down enough to where 268 00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:11,119 I could see like in front of my feet, a good fifteen twenty feet 269 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:18,440 ahead of my feet. So I got about ten fifteen feet away from the 270 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:25,519 camper door, and I seen something weird off in the distance across the road 271 00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:32,559 near the cornfield. It's already been harvest so seeing coyotes and deer was normal 272 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:37,400 to see out there, but this it looked from a distance. The shape 273 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:44,640 of the shadow, it looked like a overgrown hyena jacked up on steroids. 274 00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:51,559 It had like the dog like hind legs, and then it kind of went 275 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,039 up, had like the little hump in the back, and then it had 276 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:03,440 its arms that were like extremely long in the front, and it had the 277 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:11,319 elongated wolf face. This one didn't have like the doverman pincher ears. It 278 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,559 had like kind of like the ears were kind of they looked kind of flopped 279 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,559 a little bit like they were I don't know how to describe. It kind 280 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:23,519 of looked like, you know how some dogs have like the little flops on 281 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:27,359 the little tops like it kind of that's what it kind of looked like. 282 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:32,640 I had like the ears kind of flopped over like you know you would see 283 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:38,559 on like beagles and little wire haired terriers. But it wasn't like pronounced like 284 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,400 it covered the whole ear. It was just like just right at the tips 285 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,680 where it just kind of flopped over just enough to where it it was noticeable. 286 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:56,880 Not realizing it, I brought the flashlight up because I was curious to 287 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,440 see what I was looking at. I thought my eyes were playing tricks on 288 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,400 me. End my imagination was going wild, you know how kids are with 289 00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:08,559 being scared of the dark and whatnot. So I brought the light up, 290 00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:15,000 thinking it was just my mind playing tricks on me. I brought it up 291 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:19,400 just enough to catch its eyes, and I saw the the eye glow on. 292 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:26,960 It was like like a red, like a pale redish color. And 293 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:34,559 that's when it's it stopped moving and then it turned its head and faced me, 294 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,160 and that's when I gotta go look at it. At its face, 295 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:48,799 it was like the canines were the top canines in the bottom canines kind of 296 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:56,480 overlapped a little bit, and there ever been probably as long as my adult 297 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:03,960 fingers. They were massive, massive teeth and massive canines. The canines are 298 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:10,440 what in the eyes and it's just general parents stood out. It was big, 299 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,519 like I said, it looked like a hyena and steroid like it's done 300 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:21,359 steroids since it was a puppy in the womb. It can't looking at me. 301 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,240 It never moved its head to take its eyes away from it and it 302 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:33,359 stood up, and it sounded like bones breaking or like knuckles tracking as it's 303 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,000 standing up, and you could hear it it having difficulty be like it sounded 304 00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:45,960 like it was having problems breathing because it even though it knows that it can 305 00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:51,559 do it, it's like it's the weight on its chest and everything was not 306 00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:56,960 meant to be like that. And I was still like had the flashlight on 307 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:06,240 it, staring at it, and I saw its arms. We're massive. 308 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:15,559 It had like it had like like the rac Pune hands that looked like from 309 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:22,880 a distance and clause that are ever bit of five six inches long or more. 310 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,839 And then when it finally stood all the way up, it was ever 311 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:38,079 bit of eight nine feet tall, and it it's had never moved. It 312 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:44,599 kept its eyes, both its eyes fixated on me, and then it rotated 313 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:51,119 its body to align with it to face me as as soon as it turned 314 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:57,000 and its body was facing me. I don't know if I dropped the flashlight 315 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,599 what I did. All I know is as soon as it turned, I 316 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:08,880 was already running as quickly as I could into the camper and I locked that 317 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,680 camper door and grabbing my black blanket, and I called him that little four 318 00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:24,000 by eight space thinking I was trying to hide from it, and all I 319 00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:30,799 hear is boom, boom boom. It was running up that hill like it 320 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,599 was nothing, and it came around to that camper door and it was trying 321 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:45,079 to open that camper door. It was shaking the whole camper and it would 322 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:51,559 do this for a good two minutes. It would try open, like shake 323 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:57,200 the camper door and try shaking it open and everything. And then I'm gonna 324 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,200 walk into the window where I would normally sleep on where that dining room table 325 00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:15,240 sat. That bullet felt breeze, but it was like trying to open the 326 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:21,559 door, but it would shake the whole camper because then it would do that 327 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:29,359 for two minutes, and then walk over to the the window that over overhung 328 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,440 the where my bed would be, where the kid usually the dining table would 329 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,279 be in this in this camper, but it was pulled it down for me 330 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,680 to have a bet. It would look in the window. Frankily, you 331 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:46,640 heard that it was. It was like a low growl. It was like 332 00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:59,799 it would look in the window and then it would go and look on the 333 00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:06,279 other looking at the other windows, and then run. I'll go back to 334 00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:12,000 the the camper door and start trying to start trying to open the door again 335 00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:16,760 and just shaking the camper while it's doing it. It did. It did 336 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:30,199 this most of the night untild about early morning, and about three thirty four 337 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:43,280 o'clock comes around, it finally lets out this guttural, blood curdling woman demonic 338 00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:49,119 scream or howl or whatever. It sounded like it came from like the Exorcist 339 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:55,039 movies. And then all you could hear in the distance after it led out 340 00:34:55,079 --> 00:35:00,840 that it was boom boom boom in back into the woods and disappeared. I 341 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,320 didn't hear it. I heard it run off into the woods and disappear. 342 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:12,480 But it when I was looking at it before I dipped and went into the 343 00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:22,679 camper, it kind of had the it was like a bodybuilders upper body, 344 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,880 and it kind of looked like it had its tail like curled up underneath, 345 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:37,199 covering like its genitalia or whatever. It was like curled up underneath, and 346 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:45,760 the smell was awful. It sounded like it smelt like when you shoot a 347 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,519 deer in the gut and it dies and you go to gut it. And 348 00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:54,920 it smelled like that, but ten times worse. It sounded it smelt like 349 00:35:55,199 --> 00:36:06,239 rotting animal that's been out in the sun for ten a's. So my third 350 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,280 encounter happened when I was with the buddy of mine. He was coming to 351 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:15,719 Jerseyville to pick me up. He lived in Campsville, So we did our 352 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:22,320 little road trip where we talked about personal stuff and he would ask me for 353 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,960 a vice on some things and vice versa. And his car was a little 354 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,559 it was like a little Chevy car. It was red. He had four 355 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:35,639 doors, and it had a backseat with a baby seat in the back because 356 00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:38,280 at the time the girl he was with had a baby, so he had 357 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:44,119 a baby seat in the back. And he lived in Calhoun County. So 358 00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:49,840 we would go take these back roads to go up towards Eldred and over to 359 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,960 the Campsville Ferry that would take us across the Mississippi. I think it's it's 360 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,400 either the Mississippi or Illinois River. I could be either either one. I 361 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,480 don't know. I think it might have been a the Illinois River, but 362 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,519 I could be wrong. I don't know. It's been a while since I've 363 00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:15,400 been over in there. Anyway, it was like kind of in the middle 364 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,719 of the night, and I would go and I would go, say, 365 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,480 with him and his girl for a week or two, and I would help 366 00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:30,400 out around and helped work on the cars and whatnot. So we're driving these 367 00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:36,079 not really dirt road country roads. They were like little paved highways. They 368 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,880 had a little it was like a little two lane highway with little white dashes 369 00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:45,599 or the white lines on the sides and the yellow dashes in the middle, 370 00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:47,840 and they had the little real reflectors or whatever you want to call them in 371 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:57,760 the middle of those little yellow dashes. We were in between Eldrin and the 372 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:04,440 Fairy, and the light post only lit up where they had roads connected. 373 00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:08,159 So there was only light post on roads that would cross section or tee off 374 00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:14,519 going in either left or right, and those could be ever been of two 375 00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:17,719 miles five miles apart from each other. And there was a couple of little 376 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:23,119 odd businesses here and there, but most of it was all fields. There 377 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:28,599 was like little tree lines here and there near like little coverts were little like 378 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,920 creaks or whatever you want to call them, but that was about it for 379 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,360 any like tree lines until you got closer to the river and that's where the 380 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:43,519 woods would be. So most of it all was basically just fields of corn 381 00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:47,599 and soy. But me and my buddy were he was driving. We were 382 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:55,559 in between the Ferry and Eldred in Greene County, So we were somewhere in 383 00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:00,280 between. And this was like June tenth, so it's summer. So we 384 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:06,280 had the windows up, acon music gone, the no whatnot that kids do. 385 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:16,679 So about the halfway point between the Ferry and Eldred, I see it 386 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:25,559 looks like off in the distance hyenas jacked up, steroid like hyenas. And 387 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,800 I've seen it. I'm like, hey, hey, Bud, can we 388 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,119 stop. My Buddy's stopped the car and I said, look out my window. 389 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,000 And he looks out my window. It looked like he lost his soul. 390 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,960 His face went white as a pearl, or white as a ghost, 391 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:58,599 and he goes, what in the freaking heck is that? I said, 392 00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:06,239 I don't know. Right after I said that, it almost seemed like they 393 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:15,079 were reading our minds whatever. They all four stopped, because I didn't know 394 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:20,159 how many of them were when I've seen them, But when they stopped, 395 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,400 I saw there was four of them and they all stood up on their hind 396 00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:30,719 legs. I didn't get a real good look at them because it was dark 397 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,280 and they were often a good ways away from the road, but from what 398 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:45,280 I could see, they had like the classic dog face or wolf looking face 399 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,599 with doorman pincher ears on the top of their heads. Two of them were 400 00:40:52,639 --> 00:41:01,239 like ever bit of I'm guessing here, and eight nine feet tall, I'm 401 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:15,519 guessing, and then the second group, we're probably five six foot tall, 402 00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:25,159 and I couldn't really tell. I just knew that they were massive. And 403 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:35,119 as soon as they stopped and stood up, my buddy just flips it into 404 00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:39,039 drive and hits the gas pedal. It went pedal to the metal. We 405 00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:45,880 were gone. We were about, I would say, because where we stopped 406 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,880 was underneath like a streetlight, because there was like a row that went off 407 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:58,320 to our right on the driver's side. So after we saw them stand up 408 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:07,880 and before they had those things from a distance had a chance to react or 409 00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:13,599 come towards the vehicle. We were already gunning it. And then I think, 410 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,039 I don't know if it's like was the pack leader or the leader of 411 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:23,559 the hunt or whatever you want to call the thing. After we were about 412 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,239 I would say, one hundred and fifty yards away from give or take, 413 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:36,559 I'm guessing away from this light pole, this thing darts up and stands under 414 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:46,360 like stands underneath the light pole, watching us leave. I don't know if 415 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,960 it was making sure we didn't turn around and come back, making sure we 416 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:58,559 were gone. I'm not sure. But when they got to underneath the light 417 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:05,920 I could see it's it had like the dog, the classic dog legs, 418 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,960 and then it had like a it looked like a tail or whatnot, tucked 419 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:16,000 up and underneath like where it behind and General Tario would be. And it 420 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:22,159 was it was black. I don't know what the other color of the other 421 00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:29,760 three in the pack were or whatever they were doing. I don't know. 422 00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:35,719 They were probably hunting near because I seen deer before I seen them, so 423 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:43,159 they were probably hunting. But it it was black. It kind of had 424 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:49,960 like matted for like on its arms, and it had like the classic rection 425 00:43:50,960 --> 00:44:00,480 hands with the long nails, and it looked like black daggers classic dog legs, 426 00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:08,239 had the upper body of like a bodybuilder on steroids. Its eyes were 427 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:15,800 like kind of like a goldish color. But that's a about all I can 428 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:24,840 remember for detail wise from seeing this thing, because my buddy refused to stay 429 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:31,480 around and find out, which I don't blame him, but when me and 430 00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:37,320 him got to his house, I tried talking to him about it, and 431 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:42,159 he refused to talk about it. He's like, it was just a fititi 432 00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:46,840 of our agitation, and he was just making every excuse in every way of 433 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:54,400 dismissing it because he didn't want to talk about which I quit crying. So 434 00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:04,719 this was right after my third encounter, and my third encounter happened June tenth 435 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:15,280 of twenty fifteen, but this was June twentieth. My buddy's girlfriend, her 436 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:21,519 daughter, was sick, and we needed to go to the hospital and get 437 00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:25,840 her checked out and everything. But my buddy had to work that next day, 438 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,079 but she didn't like driving alone, especially at night with a kid. 439 00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:37,280 I volunteered to go because I had to stop buy my house in Jerseyville anyway 440 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:43,199 and get some I think closed because I was going to do something or help 441 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:49,880 them do something that day. I don't remember when what. So she was 442 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,559 driving, I was in the passenger seat, and then she had her daughter 443 00:45:54,559 --> 00:46:01,400 and the car seat behind the driver's seat. And it was the little red 444 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:07,280 car, little Chevrolet car with four doors and so on, the same car 445 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:17,360 from third encountering. So we're probably at the oh would guess the halfway mark 446 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:29,760 between Hardened and Campsville. This road wasn't not as well lit, so the 447 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:36,239 only light you really had was the occasional house, and that varied from two 448 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,079 miles, five miles ten miles apart from each other. So you didn't really 449 00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:44,480 have the light from the houses to light up the road on some of these 450 00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:49,880 parks except for the headlights of your car. And it happened to be on 451 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,239 one of those stretches where it had like inclined the had the guard rail on 452 00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:02,760 the river side and then had like our rocky thing. We were driving. 453 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:08,239 I had my window crack because I was smoking a cigarette. I didn't notice 454 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:15,639 at first the silence, you know, because me and her were talking and 455 00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:22,280 the baby was asleep, so we and her were talking. And then as 456 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:30,199 we were coming up the road, there was a house coming up about I 457 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:37,440 would say, good mile two miles up from where where we were, and 458 00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:42,960 they had a street light on their driveway. But there was still like I'm 459 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:49,400 good, you know, ninety degree incline or so, going down towards the 460 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:55,119 river. As we're coming up to this house, we see it looked like 461 00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:06,320 four shadows of like these giant bodybuilding builders, like standing in the road. 462 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:14,000 She thought they were people at first, but as we got closer, I 463 00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:19,199 would say, the front end of the car from these things when we stopped 464 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,800 was ever bit of ten feet away from them. So the front of the 465 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:30,079 car was ten feet away from these things, and these things were like standing 466 00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:37,400 kind of a line facing towards where we're coming from, like they already knew 467 00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:45,320 we were coming. And that's when I got the smell of rock and it's 468 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,679 coming through the you know, the acy events like when you go over a 469 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,000 dead skunk. It's coming through the ac events. It was coming through the 470 00:48:52,039 --> 00:49:02,159 cracked window. She turned white as a ghost, and I was trying to 471 00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:08,159 stay calm because I just had a I don't know, I just I weirdly 472 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:14,639 decided to be like I don't know, I was with having her, and 473 00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:19,280 then the kid, the baby in the car. I just instinctively figured, 474 00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:23,840 one of us needs to be calm in this situation, even though I was 475 00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:36,039 terrified beyond all reason. But they all were standing and like a perfect line 476 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:45,159 crossing this road facing towards us. They had the wolf like a like a 477 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:52,119 timber wolf face, and then it had like the ears of doverman pinchers on 478 00:49:52,239 --> 00:50:01,239 top of their heads. One was ten foot eleven foot tall. Then the 479 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:07,440 next one was slightly smaller and build like it looked like kind of like a 480 00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:14,840 female build, and it sheet. This would be the second biggest one, 481 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:22,960 set about a little bit shorter than the first one. I would say maybe 482 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:27,159 nine foot tall, eight foot tall. It could have been bigger, it 483 00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:32,000 could have been smaller. I I don't know. And then they had two 484 00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:40,360 smaller ones that were about six I would say they were more like seven foot 485 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:46,239 tall, and they were pretty big, like an actual male body builder big. 486 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:54,199 The two smaller ones they were kind of like a brownish black color. 487 00:50:55,679 --> 00:51:01,480 They weren't as like Madden as the two bigger one, with like the caked 488 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:07,400 dry blood and stuff on their fur, and their teeth were more white, 489 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:19,679 like pearly white and they had the same wolf dog like face with the doverman 490 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,519 pinch your ears. They had their it looked like their tails tipped up and 491 00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:35,039 underneath covering like their genitalia. But they weren't like bushy bushy. They were 492 00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:40,039 kind of like they looked like a normal like dog tail that you would like 493 00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:46,519 see on like a wired haired terrier or just by this proof of it of 494 00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:52,400 the tail. And then they had like you know, the classic dog or 495 00:51:52,519 --> 00:52:00,679 catlike legs on the bottom halfs. And then they had like they looked more 496 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,679 like you're like you would think like your classical werewolves like from Skyrim or bellhell 497 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:15,400 saying based on size and appearance. And then the bigger ones looked the net 498 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:24,840 the I think it was a female. I am not sure because as a 499 00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:30,880 nature lover, there's a lot of species where the females tend to be smaller 500 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,760 than the males or whatnot. But it looked like it had more of a 501 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:51,400 like feminine animal size because it wasn't like as big as the male. I 502 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:57,559 would say it was like about half the size of the big male. And 503 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,880 it's it had a big kind of black bushy tail, and they had like 504 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:09,559 the matted blood cake to it's like four arms and they had they all had 505 00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:20,440 raccoon hands with dagger long I would say they were probably seven eight inches long 506 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:27,519 lacalls. And then the finglerers were you know, it looked like giant raccoon 507 00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:35,920 hands. And like I said, it had more of like a feminine bodybuild, 508 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,400 you know, like the female bodybuilder look just kind of a little bit 509 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:50,800 bigger than your average female bodybuilders. And the arms all these things could reach 510 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,199 out and literally, like, at least on the bigger ones, if they 511 00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:57,320 wanted to grab the car, they could because they had a long enough arms 512 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:04,880 to grab the front bumper and pulled the front bumper of this car and hold 513 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,599 the car. And the little ones I would say probably had half the arm 514 00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:20,519 lengths. And then the bigger one, it was a male because it was 515 00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:25,320 not afraid to show off its genitalia. I'm not going to go into details, 516 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,639 but it was it was massive as well. It mean it massive in 517 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:40,880 general body wise, and the bigger ones had more of like a darker black 518 00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:50,719 with the matted blood and vesceral on its their face and their arms and hands. 519 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:58,599 I would say it was about a minute minute or two before I looked 520 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,920 I didn't take eyes off of it, but I said to my friend, 521 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,599 we need to reverse and get out of here. But it felt like an 522 00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:16,559 eternity. She starts crying hysterically, freaking out. I'm like trying to be 523 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:25,239 calm because now the baby's starting to wake up because of the sound and her 524 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:31,280 mom freaking out, and I'm telling her, breathe, let's get out of 525 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:36,960 here. We'll figure it out. Let's go back to Camp's Fille, and 526 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,920 we'll just take a long way to Jerseyville, to the Jerseyville Hospital. She 527 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:49,960 puts in a reverse. She's still crying hysterically, but she's she's managing to 528 00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:54,920 like not She's like wiping her face and was reversing, and I was trying 529 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,480 to help guide her back, so we weren't. We didn't go off the 530 00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:06,239 road. We managed to get to like a little turn about that's on the 531 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:12,159 left hand side. There was like a little turn little gravel like turn about 532 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,079 or parking spot for like eagle walkers or whatever. We managed to get there 533 00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:22,079 and turn around and start heading back towards Campsville. As soon as we started 534 00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:31,119 going towards Campsville, they got on all fours and started like escorting us out 535 00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:37,760 of there, kind of like you would with if you were on your way 536 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,559 to the hospital and you couldn't wait for an ambulance and your wife was pregnant. 537 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,679 They were kind of giving us like a police escort out of there, 538 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:51,199 like there was something else there that they didn't want us involved in or whatnot. 539 00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:59,880 So they followed us forever a bit of a mile or two. They 540 00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:05,840 never came out to the side of the car, nothing like that. She 541 00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:12,519 has finally calmed down enough to where she's not crying so hysterically, and the 542 00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:20,400 baby is waking up, and the baby's kind of crying. I'm still trying 543 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:25,119 to hold it together at this point, and I'm trying to come the baby 544 00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:30,719 down now because she needs to focus on the road. And I was telling 545 00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:36,039 her, okay, you know, before we get on the fairy, let's 546 00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:39,639 stop, let's collect ourselves and talk. We have to talk about it. 547 00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:45,360 We'll talk about if not, so be it. So we managed to get 548 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:52,559 back into Campsville. We pulled off into like where there used to be a 549 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:57,519 bar. There's now a There used to be a bar there when this encounter 550 00:57:57,559 --> 00:58:01,320 happened, but there's not no more. It's just a little flat park area 551 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:08,800 and then there's yeah. So we pulled off into there and I finally let 552 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:16,000 all of my pent out emotionally. I started crying acsterically. I've never cried 553 00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:22,559 that hard. The only time I have was when my one of my grandparents 554 00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:27,599 who I was close to, passed away, and that was four or five 555 00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:34,719 years ago before this incident. So I hadn't cried that hard until that night. 556 00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:40,960 So we did finally get to compose ourselves. We went to did our 557 00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:45,880 what we needed to go do. Ended up. She had a real bad 558 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:54,760 flew her daughter and we got back and we never talked about it except for 559 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,079 when we were stopped before we gone on the ferry to go finished what we 560 00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:04,440 actually who originally set out to do, never was brought up afterwards.