WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:21.760 Toby bell Ringer. Welcome to bat Flipping Nerds. Hello, I'm watching to 2 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:26.320 Backticks and podcast with a British twist. I am Darius Austin and we've got 3 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:30.120 a host of good news MLB stories coming at you tonight. Do you wanting 4 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:34.000 me to discuss those uplifting moments? It's rob nevera rob. How are you? 5 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:38.000 I am ready to get cheery, cheery, cheery, cheery about the 6 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:41.520 things that have happened in baseball over the last couple of weeks. Because this 7 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.880 is fun. It's fun baseball. It's fun. If you're a fan of 8 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:48.520 the Seattle Mariners right now, baseball it's fun. We can talk about that, 9 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:54.079 though that might be might be a source of levity. I guess we'll 10 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:58.000 go off the top with the Wander Franco story, or you know, lack 11 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:03.640 of substantive story. But if you've not been keeping up, Wander Franco has 12 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.799 been the subject of allegations that he's been in relationship with multiple underage girls in 13 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.879 the Dominican Republic. Today in Major League Baseball announced that he will be placed 14 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:17.079 on administrative leave, which is sort of the standard procedure in this kind of 15 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:23.280 event. He's going to be investigated by the Attorney General and the d or. 16 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:25.799 It sounds like it's already happening. Em I'll be you're going to conduct 17 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:30.959 their own investigation the Raiser, you know, saying all the normal legal things. 18 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:33.439 You would expect the Raise to say that they will be going along with 19 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.760 this and supporting the investigation. And we don't have a ton more information than 20 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:38.719 that. So I don't know if you have anything to say, Rob as 21 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:44.040 a Raised fan other than this is a bit rubbish, isn't it. I 22 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:46.959 mean, a bit rubbish is probably an understatement. I mean, the thing 23 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:53.879 right, it runs from possibly a bit misguided, too absolutely abhorrent and there 24 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.920 there's not really anything better than those those sort of two outcomes of the scale, 25 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.719 you know, So, I mean it is important to say at this 26 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:07.359 point it is all speculation. If you have a look online, you will 27 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:14.479 see everything from this has been with multiple underage women. You'll see it was 28 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:19.120 just a spurious extortion attempt. You'll see. You know, it was also 29 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:22.000 when he was a minder that there's all sorts of rumor, all rubbish. 30 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.479 We haven't got a clue, haven't got a clue. Right now, we 31 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:31.280 know that a young family is in is in disarray. His wife, unfortunately, 32 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:35.439 who has been kept very very private, she never wanted to be named. 33 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.879 That that's now all out there, so so that we've got to the 34 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:44.120 point already very very quickly here where there are no winners. Nobody, nobody 35 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:46.520 wins here. Now this is this is horrible for everybody. It's horrible if 36 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:53.159 there have been a horrible, abhorrent crimes committed. If it hasn't, then 37 00:02:53.319 --> 00:03:00.439 then horrible things have happened to his family. And it's it's just it really 38 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:04.800 it dented not to make this about me in any way shop on that that 39 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:08.879 is ridiculous, but it's put such a such a taint that has really sort 40 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:13.360 of dented my interest in baseball and fandom over the last couple of weeks because 41 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:19.120 it's it's just inescapable, and it is it is really horrible. And I've 42 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:25.319 almost sort of understood that keep politics out of baseball crowd just for a moment, 43 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:29.840 just from kind of got what they sort of mean, because baseball's my 44 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:34.360 escape. And yet I'm now being confronted with with this, which is which 45 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:37.759 is awful. And as I said, it's not about me, not about 46 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:38.919 me for a for a moment that it is ridiculous for me to even sort 47 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:44.400 of bring that up. But but it's been horrible, you know, and 48 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.560 and I don't see a way that this is this is going to end. 49 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:53.000 Well, it's it's it's not going to be great and so so yeah, 50 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:55.400 it's it's a real cross section of society. And this is this is the 51 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:59.800 problem with baseball is that there are so many people involved in it. You're 52 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:02.759 going to get all the characters that you get from everyday life. We've all 53 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.719 had to come across awful things happened to people. We've all seen, whether 54 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:11.039 they'd been real or whether they been fake whatever. But I mean, it's 55 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:14.240 the escape has disappeared over this last week and it's been it's been really really 56 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:19.079 horrible to have to watch it'd all unfold very very slowly. But here we 57 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:24.000 are. You know, the wonder Franco debacle will roll on for a very 58 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:28.439 long time. This isn't this isn't going away anytime soon. So you know, 59 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.360 strap in, we're here for the long run on this one. Yeah, 60 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.720 absolutely, these things take time. We all remember the Trevor Baur situation 61 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:41.439 and how long that went on, and obviously even if Franco is cleared in 62 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:45.839 a legal sense by the authorities in the DR, then them'll be made well 63 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.680 still impose our own penalty depending on what comes out of this investigation. So 64 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:53.319 I think at this point it does seem like hoping for the less bad shades 65 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:57.959 of bad than anything else. Really, yeah, there is any lightness to 66 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:01.759 be taken from the situation tool It has been provided by Bob Nightingale, who 67 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:08.120 a couple of hours ago has tweeted, wonder Franco's administrative leave is not indefinite, 68 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:13.600 but there's also no end date, which he seems to be. We 69 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:16.639 can always count on Bob for something coming a definition of indefinite, but good 70 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.279 old Bob for slightly lightning the moving, what is mooding? What is what 71 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:27.079 is horrible from every other angle, But putting Franco aside, then well, 72 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.279 you know, it's not really a baseball question at this point anymore. Do 73 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:32.319 you want to talk about the rest of the Rays and how that's going or 74 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.720 is that too depressing because you know, there has been other major news involving 75 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:41.959 the Rays. Roster of the more more typical baseball type what roster you know, 76 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:45.120 it's it's starting to look a lot like the Durham Bulls at this point, 77 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:49.199 especially in the rotation. My goodness, I mean, somebody will be 78 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:54.680 able to pull stats and tell me how how other teams have had more injuries 79 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:58.800 or more war on the injured list. But it just seems to be really 80 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:03.120 really focus with the rays, like it's pointed at one particular section. I 81 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:06.959 think we're beyond doubt now that they are doing something with their guys, which 82 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.680 is a bit iffy. But Shaye McClanahan now gone for all the rest of 83 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:15.399 this year and next year, with year to another, Tommy John adding to 84 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:21.000 the list, with Drew Rasmussen and Jeffrey Springs and the ongoing issues with Tyler 85 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:28.199 Glass now and they've all had a bit of it and we're just waiting for 86 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.600 the next one to go. I had a little bit of a rant on 87 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:35.000 our well Now WhatsApp group the other day about get again. This is stopping 88 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:39.279 it being fun. Now. I get it, injuries are part of sport, 89 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:42.920 but I'm just waiting for the next elbow to go. Twang, And 90 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.000 I think there's a there's a sort of generic feeling around Raised fandom right now 91 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:49.519 that this has been It's been great year, like let's go and watch some 92 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:55.439 great baseball, but then it's still just being taken away by again a fundamental 93 00:06:55.639 --> 00:07:00.560 issue with the sport, and that is that pictures can't can't do this. 94 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.800 They just clearly can't do it anymore. Like the injury rates are ludicrous, 95 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:09.279 like absolutely off the charts that if you were doing anything else like this in 96 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:13.160 a workplace setting, you would stop it and you'd have the HSC round very 97 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.759 very quickly, making sure that somebody goes to prison. Like if you can't 98 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:19.199 just keep doing this at work, if I chopped as many fingers off at 99 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:24.560 work operating a saw as raised baseball pitchers are now on the I l with 100 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:29.000 dodgy and flamed arms and elbows, yeah, I wouldn't have any fingers left. 101 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:31.560 It's it's silly. I mean you must you must find that at some 102 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:35.439 point you just you know, it just deflates you when you're like, oh, 103 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:39.439 that guy's injured. Now, there's no more fun in that baseball off 104 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:44.680 pops another thumb. I do like the idea of getting the HSC in seeing 105 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:49.600 what they make of this situation over in Tampa Bay. Oh these elbows breaking, 106 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:54.600 sir, Yeah, you're probably right shut the whole thing down immediately when 107 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:58.279 they just stretch out another reliever and you're just it's just like the time, 108 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.839 the time is ticking. Everyone's looking at Zach Ltelle. I'm thinking Arson and 109 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:03.759 how long? How long? How long is it going to be till till 110 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:09.079 you trip on the stairs which aren't properly indicated and have an accident at work? 111 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.720 I mean, Zach is amazing in his own right, though, isn't 112 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.160 it. Because here's a guy who basically never started in the majors. We 113 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.079 had in San Francisco a couple of years, you know, I think they 114 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.000 did a couple of opening games for us or something, and the Rays, 115 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:26.879 you know, pick him up for free and they're like, yeah, we 116 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.000 think he can start. And guess what kind of looks like you can start? 117 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:33.399 I mean, so, on one hand, the Rays of falling apart. 118 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:35.320 On the other hand, they just grabbed this guy who's like an above 119 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:41.320 average major league starting picture out of literally nowhere. There's an inefficiency there that 120 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.120 they've they've worked out something, haven't they, Because they did the exact same 121 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:48.399 thing with Jeffrey Springs, who until his elbow came flying out as he wangged 122 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.159 his head on something in the workplace that was hanging too low and hadn't been 123 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:58.080 properly inspected until his elbow destroyed itself. He was, you know, beginnings 124 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:03.200 of what looked like a so young discussion season. You know, Andrew Rasmussen, 125 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.320 he was. He was a reliever as well at long points. So 126 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.240 there definitely seems to be a market inefficiency that the rays of yet getting popped 127 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:16.759 upon here whereby you can ride the quickly exploding elbow over a reliever for a 128 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:22.519 half season of decent starts before he does to come to nature. So yeah, 129 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:28.320 there's something there. Dist Rather they didn't keep exploding with elbows, it 130 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:33.080 would be nice. I think robot elbows are It's time. It's time that 131 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.080 we remove elbows and put some sort of motorized flinging machine in this instead. 132 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.879 This feels like a conversation where we're having at some point in the future, 133 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:46.519 why why the future? Why not now? Why not now? I mean 134 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.200 like the conversation of like people are actually doing it, and you know somebody's 135 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.759 done it, somebody's done it in secret pitch twenty three years and the Biggs 136 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.200 with no injuries, and then somebody discovers he's got a bionic arm. Yeah? 137 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:00.600 Who who? We need to work this out. This is for tweeting 138 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.200 out later. We need to find out who the longest running picture without an 139 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:09.960 injury, the longest inning stretch without without without an injuries. That's probably not 140 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.000 something it's very easy to search as it. That sounds like I mean wild 141 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.159 Yeah, yeah, well if you had the right data basis, so you 142 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:20.360 can, I think you could probably do days on an active ruster. Somebody 143 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.919 with the right data basically do that. And I'll tell you who was the 144 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.159 last in his pitch to pitch to not not end up. I mean, 145 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.799 you know, somebody like Max Chrzy before he got old. I think I 146 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:33.799 went a really long time without going cyborg. But you know, they've they've 147 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.159 they've stopped the subscription. They're not sending out the floppy disks for his updates 148 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:45.840 anymore. Twenty ten to twenty eighteen, minimum games started in a season was 149 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:50.320 thirty one. So yeah, there you go, pretty robotic. He did 150 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.679 have some issues though, didn't he. Yeah, so the last few years 151 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.759 his back's been dodgy. I think he's had a bit of a adult you 152 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:03.759 know, he's thirty eight so I know, yeah, on one hand, 153 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:07.559 I cannot compare myself to Max Sharzer at all. On the other, when 154 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:09.039 Max City wakes up and his backst are quite right, you're like, yeah, 155 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:15.840 otherwise I can't imagine a human being. I'm less like really, but 156 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:20.919 no, he's quite intense too. But then, you know, so it's 157 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:22.440 a CD player. You know, it does its thing, it doesn't you 158 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:26.559 know, it grinds at you. You know it's it's it's tech from from 159 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:31.960 his era. Do we move on, Let's move on, Let's move on 160 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.440 to somebody else. You can be rather intense to me. Yes, Fam, 161 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:41.440 Rob, You've got some Tommy Fam content, pretty pretty bizarre story that 162 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:45.759 you would catch me up on just before we started. So can you review 163 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.039 this? It's it's got enough in it that you would start to think, 164 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:52.879 oh, but it's another sort of slightly funny Tommy FAM's a bit aggressive kind 165 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:54.799 of story. But then it's got a couple of dark elements too as well, 166 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.279 which sort of takes the takes the cheery podcasting fun out of it. 167 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.240 But so, there's been a video doing the rounds. I'm sure most of 168 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.519 you have seen it. If not, it would be hardly to find of 169 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:13.440 Tommy Fan having a very vocal argument with Padres Fan telling him to shut up, 170 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:20.120 and allegedly the fan may have said that he was a piece of excrement. 171 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:22.320 He didn't use the word excrement, but he did substitute it for something 172 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:26.480 that we try and keep off a podcasts. So allegedly he called him, 173 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.399 called him a horrible name, and it looks like Fan then gets into it 174 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.960 with him. Then he suggests that there's a racial element to this, and 175 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.879 it happens constantly from white people calling him awful names. It should when the 176 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.279 sort of fun drops out of it, because if that is that is true, 177 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:50.399 then again it's another abhorrent story in baseball of something that's quite unjustified. 178 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.559 But it does seem that Tommy Fan is quite a hothead, so you know, 179 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:58.320 you can't ignore the awful bit of that. But there is an element 180 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.759 of this Chap was always going to react. So if you're going to start 181 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.840 calling him names, what did you think was going to happen? Again? 182 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.360 Not great? There seems to be an investigation into some online abuse being hurled 183 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:15.240 at his thirteen year old nephew by part of his fans. Now, so 184 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:22.679 stay classy San Diego. So, yeah, it's just another horrible day of 185 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.559 things happening in baseball that shouldn't happen. I mean, Tommy Fam, I 186 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:30.480 mean, you could see it happen. There's a there's a there's a strangeness 187 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.519 to this chap who does seem to have a little bit of aggression to him. 188 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:39.159 Doesn't he be fantasy football slaps or fights outside strip clubs? You know 189 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:45.639 that these things don't don't seem to happen to the average person. You hear 190 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.279 about some guys who like they I think maybe, I think maybe Clayton Kosher 191 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.519 is one of these guys who, like I think, seems to be able 192 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.399 to sort of compartmentalize it and off the field, he still seems quite chill, 193 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.639 perfectly nice guy, but reportedly has pretty you know, like strict routine 194 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.919 and he gets in the zoe. I don't think Tommy Fam is one of 195 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.399 these compartmentalizing guys. I think Tommy Fam has a level and you know, 196 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:09.320 it helps him be a professional baseball player, but it also means that, 197 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.679 you know, he slaps people about fantasy football bets and yeah, I was 198 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:18.600 are fans, which, yeah, I guess as long as you put him 199 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.279 in the right situations, it's fine. And when he's wrong situations, maybe 200 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.720 not so much. He did, didn't he get stabbed a few years ago 201 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.519 as well? He did? He got stabbed outside the nightclub. Yeah, 202 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.559 no stress, I think it was maybe. I think it was a strip 203 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.559 club. I'm not sure. He'd have to check those details, but it 204 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:41.279 was. I think that matters. I think the difference matter. Yeah, 205 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:43.759 just these these things don't seem to happen to most people. They don't even 206 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.559 seem to happen to most other great, big, famous baseball stars. He 207 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:52.879 does seem to court a little bit of controversy. He does. Tommy fam 208 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.519 is listening, of course. I think he's a very very charming fellow, 209 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:00.039 and I have nothing nothing else bad to say about him. You certainly and 210 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:03.480 yelling the thing at him from the crowd if you happen to be I would 211 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:09.000 not to be fair the baseball player too. He's been all right this season, 212 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:11.200 trying to help get back in it. I mean to be fair to 213 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:13.639 the Padres fans. It's been a pretty frustrating year, isn't it. They 214 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.840 must be just yelling everything at everybody at this point. Yes, absolutely, 215 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:24.120 Yes, I don't think there's there's much reason to cheer in San Diego. 216 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:26.759 But then you know, you go to the ballpark, you want to make 217 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:28.799 some some some noise, you're gonna shout, Then why not whole some abuse 218 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:33.840 at Tommy Fam. You're gonna get a reaction, Yeah, to abuse Tommy 219 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:46.279 Fam bablips and not endorsed abusing baseball players. My lawyers are telling me I 220 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.960 was gonna say, let's lift the mood, but I also think we should 221 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:56.960 maybe talk about Nolan Chaniel and the Los Angeles Angels, who I mean, 222 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:00.519 can you write this stuff? They're like, we're not trying no timey, 223 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.360 We're going all in the trade deadline, they go out, they get Lucas 224 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:07.080 Giarlito. You know, they strengthened their roster. I think they do seven 225 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:11.279 games in a row immediately afterwards, and then their page have decided that calling 226 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.039 up the guy they drafted six weeks ago to play first base when CJ. 227 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.279 Croms on the el was the answer. Now some people have said, well, 228 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:21.279 they know they're out of it and this is just about giving a guy 229 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:26.759 some experience. But also six weeks in the miners seems a little ecative to 230 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:32.840 me. It does. It's smacks of not being able to develop players very 231 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:37.639 well, so don't let him have to see the miners. Yeah, brief, 232 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:42.080 Yeah, I'm glad you said his name for us because pronunciation shan shan 233 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:48.480 Well, was it Shan Chanuel? I've been working on Chanuel, but I'm 234 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:52.279 open to the bat. This was I was listening to something else where. 235 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:56.200 They also didn't know how to say his name, and he's still new enough 236 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.720 in the majors that they don't have his pronunciation on better reference. So I've 237 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:03.599 not yet caught an Angel's broadcast. No, he's been playing. He only 238 00:17:03.640 --> 00:17:07.240 came up on Friday, I think thirsday. Probably As someone else with the 239 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:12.440 difficult to pronounce surname, I feel his pain. I do apologize, but 240 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.039 again, as someone else who has a difficult surname, I know he probably 241 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.279 has had this for many, many, many, many many years, and 242 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:22.680 it's probably fairly used to it. But that doesn't mean we'll get back to 243 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.119 you on that. Everyone. We will try and establish what his name, 244 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:30.640 how his name is actually pronounced, and get that right for him, because 245 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.839 yes, we know him that much. But Angels, why, what I 246 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:40.319 mean it's is this is this coming from the top. Is this Marino moves 247 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:44.480 him. It's it doesn't seem like anybody with a proper rate baseball brain is 248 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:48.720 making these decisions at this point. It does seem either flipping a coin, 249 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:52.079 leaving it up to fate, or somebody is tipping the scales in an odd 250 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:56.960 way. Yeah, you know, I think there is the element of, 251 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:02.039 as you said, is there like play development in the mind is so bad 252 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:03.359 that they just want to get him in front of the major league staff, 253 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:11.440 which at this point, like perimnation's been there a few years. Nobody's fault 254 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.160 that there's if, but there's if they don't trust the wide lead coaching Chanuel 255 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:26.319 Sanine Suel. Welcome to the majors, Nolan, Chanuel. And you know, 256 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:30.759 maybe it just it came so quickly after all those that flurry of moves. 257 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.200 It feels like this is another, you know, last ditch attempts to 258 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:38.920 get them, you know, somewhere, when that's probably not what's happening. 259 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.400 There is also that just vibe of like, please, can we convinced show 260 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:48.720 how we really are trying here, like we're trying anything. But it feels 261 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.039 to me like if you ever play, I don't know in a fantasy league 262 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:56.599 or like an OTP league, and some managers just get like on tilt far 263 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.559 too quickly, and they just think that doing some thing, doing anything or 264 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.920 like help let in like it doesn't matter what it is. I mean, 265 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.720 you get this with like fans in real life just yelling at guy, the 266 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.319 manager's change the batting order and stuff like this. Right, it's just like, 267 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:14.559 let's have the feeling that we are doing something. And this felt like 268 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:19.440 that to me, like let's let's do something. It thinks like something is 269 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.759 being done and maybe we show hey will go oh, you know these guys 270 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:27.119 as they really love to try to win games. To be fair to Chanuel, 271 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:30.920 he was mashing in the milence in his extremely limited sample. It did 272 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:36.000 look a bit easy for him, but he came up and immediately hitting the 273 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:37.720 majors as well. So yeah, I mean, if he's ready, he's 274 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.000 ready. And I think we all bemoan how long these players have to spend 275 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:44.519 in the miners. I think this may be a little bit too far the 276 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:48.440 other way, but hey, if if he's good enough, yeah, let 277 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.680 him play. But but what are the angels doing? I mean, you 278 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:55.039 say, do something, but what is it? Something they're pointing at. 279 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:57.519 I mean, they are going nowhere this year and they're now how far back 280 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:03.640 are the eleven games back in the divisions? There's nothing going on here, 281 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:10.039 not much going on between years. I don't think it's pretty pretty astounding. 282 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:14.640 And the thing is the pitching has been the problem again for them. You 283 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:17.559 know, it's it's not not got any better. They've actually hit pretty well 284 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:21.720 this year, but they've not been able to figure out the pitching. I 285 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:26.559 think they're one of the worst pitching staffs in the Ale. Do you convinced 286 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:33.599 of Eurotani? No, Massy. It's it's that, you know, it's 287 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.039 the it's the the boyfriend begging his girlfriend to stay, you know, after 288 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:38.839 she's made it very very clear that she's you know, she's got to move 289 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:41.920 on. Now he's scratching her name into the back of his arm with the 290 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:48.759 compass. It if you're looking at a good look. Anthony Rendon's doing this 291 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:52.920 weird act where like he justus existed exactly, and like even when he's in 292 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.160 the clubhouse, like he's just telling him. I think he told a reporter 293 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:59.559 I'm not here the other day when they asked him how his injury rehab is 294 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:02.200 going like he seems to be like I'm done. I'm done with this. 295 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:07.960 Mike Trout is you know, good for one long term injury a season minimum 296 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.119 now and then it's like, yeah, what what are we doing here? 297 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.599 You know what else is there? I don't really believe in the Mickey moniac 298 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.440 breakout. Well, Taylor Awards got his face broken. If you want to 299 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:22.880 look at who's got the most players on the aisle right now, it's definitely 300 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:29.480 absolutely yeah. Everyone always talks about, imagine we'd seen vintage Trout, you 301 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:34.000 know, attacking the proper team around him and playing in the postseason. But 302 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:40.400 quit just imagine vintage Trout for a minute, with a competent team developing him. 303 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:45.759 You know, he's already possibly top five baseball players of all time. 304 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:52.839 Imagine a proper team who can coach people. Probably, and if they've done 305 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.319 him better, how much better could he be? You know, could he 306 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.319 he's now? Yes, probably we would talking about Twilight Trout now, the 307 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:04.640 beginning of the Twilight Trout, but that that peak was insane. It was 308 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:11.240 incredible. If he'd been you know, pick random decent teamer, you know, 309 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.359 hard to think of it. The Houston Astros during their their their rise, 310 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.319 and right, you know, what would they have got out of him? 311 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:19.920 Do you think there was more? I then, could it have been 312 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.400 more? Would he have been the best player of baseball? Ever? It's 313 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:26.240 hard to say, of course, but I mean I think peak Trout might 314 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:29.839 already have been the best player in bestball. So it's a little bit scary 315 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.119 to think of him on the Astros and better don't I don't know what they 316 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.920 would have done. Yeah, maybe maybe he had maxed it out. I 317 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.960 don't know, but maybe that was Maybe that is the secret Trout is he 318 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.680 doesn't need coaching. He's managed to sort of coach himself because whenever anything goes 319 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.519 wrong, he's always just decided to get better at it and then immediately does. 320 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:51.160 So perhaps that's that's the cheak code that his trout is that he can 321 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:52.720 just do his own coaching. But you've got to think, you know, 322 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:57.000 if someone had had given him a bit more, not not to take anything 323 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:00.160 away, maybe the big leaf coaching in you know, the Angels system isn't 324 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:04.039 isn't bad. Yeah, they hit us do hit, but you know the 325 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:08.759 development side is not not looking pretty at all. So yeah, maybe maybe 326 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.599 it's more who knew? Who knows? We will never know. And as 327 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:18.359 someone invotes some kind of special machine that can send Max Sure's are back in 328 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:21.640 time to go and change the past and see what happened in the future. 329 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:26.680 I may be conflating him with a popular movie. I'm not sure would I 330 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.759 would watch Max and that, To be honest, I was just seeing if 331 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:34.480 you could make a team out of their IL and yeah, pretty much be 332 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.599 a bit short. You'd need a DH and you'd need a bit of a 333 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.359 bit of pitching, but not much. I've got a line. Well, 334 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:42.839 it's all right, because because if you want to want to mix two teams 335 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:48.160 together, you can have a You're gonna have a championship winning Raised team rotation 336 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:52.240 from from the I l to take and then you take the Rais rotation. 337 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.240 Yeah, there we go. Drop that into the Angel's IL. Yeah, 338 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.200 championship teams Stasy, crone, rendo, netto a shailer, adele trout wards. 339 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:06.440 You as you're starting position players. Yeah, it's pretty pretty good works. 340 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.359 Yeah, if they're healthy, which none of them are. Nope, 341 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:17.240 that is the problem. Angels. At least we didn't predict do well this 342 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:22.720 year. I'm straining myself so what was the prediction this year. I think 343 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.119 we said at three, so, you know, underwhelming. That's gonna be 344 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:27.880 a stretch. At this point, it doesn't look a bit of a stretch 345 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:33.240 here, but there's still time. Let's sit on the club side the rest 346 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:34.680 of that division. Yes, surely. Yeah, So let's talk about the 347 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:37.839 rest of the aos because this is this is a real race now and it's 348 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.640 involving a third team that I don't think anyone's expecting. I'm not sure that 349 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:45.880 Jerry Depota who expected this. But the Seattle Mariners have won seven in a 350 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:52.119 row and they are now two games back off the division lead because the Rangers 351 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.759 have dropped five in a row, and in between them in the Houston Astros. 352 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:02.079 Of course, do you do you believe the Mariners? Rob No. 353 00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:03.240 I didn't believe in the Mariners last year, and I don't believe in them 354 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:11.319 this year, however, that they are doing something and it's it's not a 355 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:15.079 terrible division. There's two very very good teams in that league. There's also 356 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:19.319 the Angels in the athletics. But you know, they're doing something. And 357 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.319 I would say, look at the wild card right now, and they are, 358 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:27.759 you know, with the Yankees charging backwards, the Angels charging backwards, 359 00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:33.039 and sort of Toronto and Boston more or less treading water. They're looking, 360 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:34.920 they're sitting. There's anthing well in that in that race. I don't think 361 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.440 they're going to get that division. They don't have the quality to do that. 362 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:45.079 But I think they could reasonably aim to grab a wild card spot at 363 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.359 this point. And I think if you had to ask us even two weeks 364 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.480 ago, that would have seemed almost out of the question. So yeah, 365 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.839 I think they've got a genuine chance. But no, don't. I don't 366 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.559 particularly. We're gonna upset a lot of people here, but I've already upset 367 00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:03.680 Fair are a few fans with the Angels fans and probably a part of his 368 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:07.440 fans. But yeah, I don't believe in the Mariners particularly. They've got 369 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:08.920 some some great pitching, and they've got a couple of great bits, but 370 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:14.839 there's still seems to miss that rest of rest of a lineup. But it's 371 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:18.319 it's it's doing what it needs to do right now. So maybe maybe do 372 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.839 you believe? No, I don't, And you know I haven't believed in 373 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.559 this lineup for a while. I mean, part of the reason for This 374 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:32.039 is Julio Rodriguez setting an al NL record by getting seventeen hits in four games, 375 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.359 which is pretty unbelievable. I saw one graphic showing that he had actually 376 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:42.079 created more offense by himself than the entire Yankees lineup from those four games, 377 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:49.039 which, sure it was entertaining, if all depressing for Yankees fans. But 378 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:53.200 yeah, when people players get seventeen hits across four game you probably ought to 379 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:57.839 win the ball. That's a good starting point to go from. But yeah, 380 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:03.279 you know, they're still DH Mike Ford. They've traded for Joshu roe 381 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:10.440 House to fit in at second base. Yeah, I'm not really scared by 382 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.519 most of this lineup outside of Roderi Grez when he's hot, you know, 383 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:18.960 yeah, and Anderson Rally will hit some home runs. But ty France has 384 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.880 kind of fall off a bit this season. The bench is weak, and 385 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:26.559 yeah, I do I do love the pitching. So maybe if they get 386 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.039 into the playoffs and you're like, yeah, we've got a Castile and we've 387 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.880 got a Kebby and we've got Gilbert, they can probably feel like they're going 388 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.039 to take anyone absolutely and then so they should, you know, to be 389 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:40.880 very clear. I quite want them to do well. I quite I quite 390 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:45.480 liked the Mariners, are quite like watching the Mariners play. But yeah, 391 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.880 there's it's just still missing a little bit in in in that lineup. And 392 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.440 it's not it's not it's not as if it's something they couldn't have plugged in 393 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.920 the off season. There was, there was certainly scope, there were there 394 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.319 were players available, there were trades available that the Mariners could have could have 395 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.359 done to sort of shore up that soft underbelly. But but they didn't. 396 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.319 And hey, look maybe they don't need to. You know, they are 397 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.680 they are well in this fight. Now. All it takes is one of 398 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.039 those three teams to go on a little bad run, and they are they 399 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:15.519 are dropped straight out of it. But as it is right now, their 400 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:21.000 toe to toe Texas and Houston, and good luck to them. Yeah, 401 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.240 and it does look but we've got some races here. Obviously not in the 402 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:30.960 NL East or n L West anymore. The Dodgers are Dodgers in again about 403 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:37.720 NL West for a minute, is that the quietest twelve run twelve game lead 404 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.440 to a division? Like I knew the Dodgers were back on it a bit, 405 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.079 and I knew that the d Backs were having it rough for a little 406 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.440 while now, but if you'd ask me to guess, they would have said, 407 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.960 yeah, maybe four or five games lead. Now like twelve, Where 408 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.319 has twelve come from? Like that? That is sneaky twelve, Like I've 409 00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.759 never known a lead that big. Happened so quietly. Yeah, we were 410 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.480 talking other day. I'm pretty sure it was the Sunday before the All Star 411 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.640 break the Dodgers got back into first place for the first time, and that 412 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.359 I was not that long ago. That was just over a month ago. 413 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:18.279 And somehow they've conjured this twelve win unastailable lead out of nowhere overnight. Yeah, 414 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.759 it did feel like that. I just went to look at the standing 415 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.200 some day and I was like, oh, the Dodges are gone now then, 416 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:30.400 yeah, the doing Backs have heated up again, but they put themselves 417 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.160 in such a hole whether their post All Star break around that they've only just 418 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.759 about caught back up with the Giants who are doing their own slide right now. 419 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.960 And yeah, me and while the Dodgers have just kept chugging along and 420 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:48.640 winning. So that's that's over. And I think the Twins have locked up 421 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.200 the Al Central. But I think we should give credit to John McGee here 422 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.519 because he said the Cubs were selling at the deadline and okay, over at 423 00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.319 the NL Central. Now here are the Cubs fixed them. Let's fi him. 424 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.240 They're right in there card right right now, and they're two and a 425 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:08.359 half games behind the Brewers. So fair play John, good work at that 426 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:12.200 wild card race. It's it's not overly strong, is it. I mean, 427 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:17.319 the teams that are chasing the clubs at this point, none of them 428 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:22.200 are overly scary. I mean, if you talk about preseason scary clubs, 429 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.640 you've you've got the Padres well out of it, the Cardinals well out of 430 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.000 it, the Mets well out of it. You know, you're when you're 431 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.079 being chased down by Cincinnati and Miami, you can you know they're decent enough 432 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:37.960 to be in the race. Absolutely, they They're totally deservedly there. But 433 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:41.920 they're not the sort of terror that you would maybe have looking over your shoulder 434 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.880 a little bit more in the American League at the moment. No, it 435 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.720 definitely, especially with some of the runs these teams have been on, it 436 00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:53.119 feels like the who's going to not lose it the least rather than who's going 437 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:59.079 to like seize the wild card spot race, you know, with the Diamondbacks 438 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.799 in the mix for that division title a month ago and they're not anymore. 439 00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:11.039 The Marlins have really really dropped off, and yeah, so it's like, 440 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.160 yeah, when you're looking at the Reds and the Marlins and like the Giants 441 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.599 lineup has just been absolutely dreadful, you're not thinking, Wow, this is 442 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.960 the teams of the quality that you know, the Houston and the Rays and 443 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:26.960 even even you know, the Mariners have been of late. You know, 444 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.400 I don't look at the you don't look at the Giants rotation and go, 445 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.599 well, yeah, this is the same seat out And it's fine that their 446 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.359 lineup is terrible because it's not. They piece it together, they figure it 447 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.240 out, but they don't you know, it's Logan Web and then a bunch 448 00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:47.519 of guys that they're trying to maximize. Padres. I still hot, Spicy 449 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.519 Jake, think the Padre's stand a really decent chance of making the postseason this 450 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.759 year. That they've got them run differential. They clearly have the personnel, 451 00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.400 no one's no one is doubting that, you know what they are only what 452 00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:02.160 five games back in the wild Card at this point. I you know, 453 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:06.200 if you were to look at any team to surge up through that lot, 454 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.240 you know, you think Miami have sort of had their bit of this season. 455 00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:14.559 The d Backs have had their little flash. The Reds were suddenly there, 456 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.759 you know, very very much ahead of where we expected them to be. 457 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.640 I think there's time for the for the San Diego Padres, who still 458 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:28.079 seem to be playing a little bit underneath the expected you know, expected wins 459 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.240 at this point. I think I think there's enough in them there that they 460 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:35.160 really could make a little charge. It only takes a little just a little 461 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:38.200 charge, and they could be straight up into that worldcud spot. There's not 462 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.880 much to mo muge in it. Well, i'll playoff words agree with you 463 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.160 at BPP because they still have San Diego with a better chance of making the 464 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:50.160 playoffs and Arizona. So I didn't think much of Arizona at the start of 465 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.160 the season, which explains a lot of that. I think the fan graphs 466 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:57.000 maybe slightly more, but they share the Padres is down at fourteen point seven 467 00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.799 percent to get them wild card spots. So but you know, there's there's 468 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.680 still a chance. And yeah, when you look at those line ups, 469 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.519 if you've just presented them to people and shair understandings, you'd be like, 470 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:13.960 well, obviously, Padres, we've got the best team. Yeah, wells 471 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:19.720 doing it? Then hell, well the Cubs have like got some some interesting 472 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.680 Cody Bellinger is just back. Yes, it's been a weird kind of Cody 473 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:28.880 Bellinger. He wasn't hitting the ball very hard early in the season. That's 474 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.559 kind of come back a bit. Obviously, our mate Niko Horner is have 475 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.759 another nice season. I think, you know, I don't know if we've 476 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.640 really talked about it on the pod, but the whole short stop you know, 477 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.960 who's going to get the best short stop this offseason? And I don't 478 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:45.440 know that many people really said it was going to be Swanson, but it 479 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.720 has been twins and so far. Yeah, he's having a great season, 480 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:54.119 so fair play to him, and the Cubs were making that signing, and 481 00:33:54.720 --> 00:34:00.680 yeah, you know they've done some interesting things. On the pitching side has 482 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.000 been great. You know, we saw him in London, who was great. 483 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.599 He's kind of kept that going all season on. Really Strums fallen off 484 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.320 with this injury and now he's got a issue which is worrying. And then 485 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.000 yeah, I don't look at the Cubs and think, if this team gets 486 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.639 into the playoffs, they've got the pitching to go anywhere. You know, 487 00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.840 they've they've definitely been piecing it together. Karla Hendricks has come back and you 488 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.320 know, pitched well to be fair to him, but he's not you know, 489 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.480 he might he might be their number two in the playoffs. Like, 490 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.400 I don't think it's going to cut it. And I'll give get some credit 491 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:36.599 to add but Alzada as well, who's sort of shifted to their closer and 492 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.719 he's been really good. But yeah, they still feel like a team with 493 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:44.719 holes. The good news for them, I suppose is that, yeah, 494 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.519 most of these world god teams are not that good, and if the Padres 495 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.559 don't get in, you know, the Fiddies are probably the best of the 496 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.239 bunch, so you never know there's a chance. But you stack him up 497 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:59.239 against the Graves of the Dodgers and it's like, yeah, this is this 498 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:00.880 is not going to work, not going far as it. Yeah, the 499 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:07.760 Braves are they are they They've got to be sort of the best consensus winners 500 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.239 for a long time, right, I Mean we've had that super team of 501 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.239 the Dodgers, a couple of years ago, and we've we've had that, 502 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:19.559 but there's been super teams at least on the other side of the other side 503 00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:24.159 of the divisions to potentially going to get them at the the World Series. 504 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:30.199 But I mean, who's who's a patch on Atlanta right now? Perhaps good 505 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:36.320 Dodgers are a distant second at this point, but they're they're just they're on 506 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:38.639 their own plane, aren't they. Yeah, I think so. I mean, 507 00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:44.599 you look at that lineup and it's just they all hit. There's so 508 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:50.119 much threat up and down their acunits of horstling a stupid season, But Matt 509 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:53.800 Alson is leading the majors in home runs. You've got Alb's, You've got 510 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:59.000 Riley, You've got Michael Harris, who's really turned it around well after a 511 00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:04.599 like Specter actually slow starting an injury, and then like Sean Murphy has been 512 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.480 unbelievable trade for them as well, you know, playing really good defensively and 513 00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:13.840 just hitting really well for a catcher two. So I think, you know, 514 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.599 the question is maybe the back end of that rotation has not been as 515 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.119 good. But when you can roll spend a Strider out for any single start, 516 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:27.519 then you've got to feel pretty good about yourself absolutely, So yeah, 517 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:29.719 I think I think, you know, you might say, who's there, 518 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:34.360 number four in the playoffs or something like that's not necessarily great, But then 519 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:36.800 you don't look at the Dodgers and you don't think, well, they've got 520 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.360 an absolute star there. You know, they've really struggled with injuries. They 521 00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:49.480 didn't really go for it. Lanslin has predictably been great since, but well 522 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.239 we'll see if that continues. And curse. You're, yeah, hope, 523 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.119 hopefully he's healthy still, but when he's out there, he's still elite, 524 00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:00.360 but you don't know if he's going to be out there and he's got his 525 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:06.559 postseason curse of course. The old and then the lineup is it's more pieced 526 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.840 together, isn't it. It's Bets, it's Freeman, it's Smith, it's 527 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.199 you know, Max muntyon is one nightty average, but HiT's a home run 528 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:19.000 every twenty five appearances. And then it's like, you know, it's platoon 529 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:23.960 central out there. They've really kind of had to sort of piece this together. 530 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:28.800 It's not the Braves lineup where they don't really move guys around. It's 531 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.719 the same nine out there every game. It's a lot of you know who's 532 00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:36.280 starting today, how we match it up, which can work, but you 533 00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.559 don't feel as scared by it. You don't look at the whole lineup and 534 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:43.639 think, wow, this is great. It's like Smith and then it's like, 535 00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:50.039 oh yeah, and there's James Altman and rohas and you know Armed Rosario 536 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.519 who even the Gardens didn't want, you know, and they don't hit, 537 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:57.519 so yeah, and then you look at you look at the Brave and you 538 00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.880 see the team that won the World Series a couple of years ago, plus 539 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:07.599 Ana who was called absent for that postseason run. You know that doesn't make 540 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:12.599 any team worse having a Kuna on your side instead. So yeah, I'm 541 00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:17.519 scared of Yeah. I think that they're a scary team, probably probably the 542 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.639 scariest team if you're an opposing starting picture. I think, Okay, do 543 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.119 you have any I don't feel like we should do it too bad? Do 544 00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:30.840 you have any any good news stories? Oh? No, good, Mike 545 00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.559 good? Was that the al West is fun? That was about as far 546 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.480 as I got this week because it was quite depressing trying to do some research 547 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:39.079 for it. And no, I don't I don't really have another. Have 548 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:45.360 you got another good well? I've got a contentious good and people are getting 549 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:50.679 mad about this because they're mad last time we talked about it, but Gunna 550 00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:54.920 Henderson bought more orials, really turned it around it himself after a slow start 551 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:59.239 of the season, looking like the starfiam And thought he would be. He 552 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.559 was. He was single short of the cycle, the easiest hit to get, 553 00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:06.599 obviously all he needed in a single. He slaps the base hit down 554 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:08.519 the right field line, you know, all the way into the corner, 555 00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:13.840 and he does not stop at first base. He legs it to second for 556 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:15.920 a double. And I just want to say, well done, Gonna Henderson, 557 00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:20.159 because the double is better than a single. And I like it when 558 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.760 we get these reminders that like, actually he was like, you know what, 559 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.440 I'm just going to try and help actually help my team score some more 560 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.760 runs instead of going for an individual achievement. That's basically just because of our 561 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.400 interest in like statistical curiosities instead of anything to do with value. Obviously Gonna 562 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.599 Henderson could have had a single. He doesn't care, and we don't care, 563 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:44.480 And I look forward to your angry tweets and messages as we've got last 564 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:49.719 time. But that's my good. I think I'm most annoyed and angry at 565 00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:53.679 the official scorer if I'm honest, because you know the kind of point is 566 00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:58.000 people, really, it's obviously when it hits a hit, So why why 567 00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.719 could he not have Just that's me me coming at the official scorers crowd come 568 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:07.440 at me. Uh yeah, that could have been a single with a throwing 569 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.440 error. So yeah, you know you could have. You could have. 570 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.639 You could have fulfilled both tides. You could have had your your your man 571 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:16.760 running for second and doing what he should do, and he could have had 572 00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:21.480 had a cycle at the same time, and we could have finally had peace, 573 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:28.320 reaching out over the pointless baseball stats landscape, holding hands and moving into 574 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.960 a brighter future in a in a week of all the discourse. But no, 575 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:36.760 we didn't. We had some jobs worth official scorer that this wasn't a 576 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:40.800 throwing error, so yeah, no, not having it fair enough. I 577 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.079 will also add that Bryce half hit are pretty fine inside the park home run 578 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:52.360 over the weekend, so that was pretty cool. It was also against the 579 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.440 Giants and look, yeah that was a wild bounce. That was that was 580 00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.480 I don't know how that wasn't a regular home run. Yeah, nearly hitting 581 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:06.559 the wall. Yeah, yeah, half quint to be fair is a decent 582 00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.559 runner, but not the types of home runs you expect him to be hitting 583 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:13.840 normally. No, I'm all in favor of inside the park and runs. 584 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.119 Those those are fun, yes, especially the ones where it's not like anybody's 585 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:22.320 done something egregiously wrong as well, you know, yeah, like the city 586 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.079 Barrence is not like, it's not like somebody misplayed that. It took a 587 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:28.880 really weird like no one could have forecast that. So that that that is 588 00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:31.239 a fun one. Yeah, it's much better than the center field. I 589 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:35.440 thought you could get it dived, missed, it rolled all the way to 590 00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:37.599 the wall inside the park, on to the wall. Yeah, absolutely those 591 00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.760 are less fun. There are less fun. But yeah the crazy bounce, 592 00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:45.960 that's that's a good one. No, I an't any more good nothing good, 593 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:53.800 nothing good good news stories that's got really giggle right now? What we 594 00:41:53.920 --> 00:42:00.599 got? What's what's what's result number one? It's not really news spools best 595 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:06.599 underdog success stories of all time from Bleacher Reply fan tracks has got big Byron 596 00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:08.920 Bucks and news which I think is that he's going to play the outfield again. 597 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:15.639 Maybe can only end well. Some of these are not the optimistic Ferries. 598 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:20.960 We know something is just not good. The fourth one is cutter crawl 599 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.719 for Trevors story not enough in Red Sox is lost to Royals. I mean, 600 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.960 it's good news for the Royals. The Royles do need the wins to 601 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:32.679 be fair. They yeah, and great news for fans of the Royals or 602 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.280 Athletics. The two worst teams in baseball are playing each other this week, 603 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:44.800 so and that could be where the universe ends the race for the number one 604 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:50.119 pick. The Aids are on thirty five wins right now, so there's still 605 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.039 a good chance of not going to make it to fifty. Every time I 606 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:59.519 see this, just before we go, I wonder I didn't watch the Detroit 607 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:05.880 Tigers got fourty, one hundred and twenty in the early two thousands. Two. 608 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.960 I just wonder, like, because this age team is you know, 609 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:19.000 terrible, and also their own actively trying to not compete, and they're still 610 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.840 going to win more games than that Tigert team. And now I just kind 611 00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:22.840 of were like, I'm going to do a deep dive on that Tigers team 612 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.000 because I don't understand, like, what how did they do it? It 613 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:34.679 takes some doing, doesn't it. I meant three hundred and nineteen. I 614 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.239 mean, if you just look at the if you just look at the guys 615 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:43.960 who've been DFAD over the last two weeks, I'm almost certain you could piece 616 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:49.360 together a team that would win more games right now than the Oakland A's are. 617 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.119 So you've got to be actively looking to be bad to actually get to 618 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.960 that point. Surely. I mean, there's there's there's enough just replacement level 619 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.239 because they're playing well a low replacement level at this point. There's got to 620 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.719 be enough replacement level guys who are just out there. You know, there's 621 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.760 got to be well. I think could they have had Zaclytell? Was he 622 00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:13.760 designated for assignment at one point? Uh? Yeah, yeah, we must 623 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:20.760 think he was a waiver claim. Yeah, all DFA team. I won't 624 00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:25.519 know if it's on it. Yeah, he was trance from the Rangers to 625 00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:30.639 the Red Sox and a minor league deal. The Red Sox called him up, 626 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.840 so the raised this to the Red Sox again with Springs, and now 627 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:42.440 they've done. You almost think that that maybe hoim Bloom is still working for 628 00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:46.320 the race. He's just on the employee. All the current GMS. Hoim 629 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:54.199 Bloom should know this is absolutely a guy that the race. Yeah, yeah, 630 00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:58.400 May Trials for Litel was claimed the waivers by the Rays. And let 631 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.320 me tell you who had the waiver priority then, it was definitely the Oakland 632 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:07.360 Days. So exactly exactly. So there's a fun games you can go out 633 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.800 there see if you can put together a d all DFA team this year, 634 00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:16.239 an all DFA team which would have a better projected war than the current Oakland 635 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:21.639 Days. I am almost certain it can be done. Yeah, I think 636 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.039 you're I think you're probably right. Look, I want to see what their 637 00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:30.480 best war players are now, because the ones that we're doing a right have 638 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.920 fallen off of it as well. They Zach Geloff has been really good since 639 00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:37.280 he came up to be fair to him three h four, three seventy six, 640 00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:42.440 twenty four, very nice. Ryan Noda has been good, he was 641 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:46.559 there all five and Brent Brooker is there any other? Hit it over one 642 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:54.719 very quickly get into the now point ones. They only have five players offensively 643 00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:00.719 worth more than half a win, and then it's just totally doable, totally 644 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:06.280 doable. And this is well, there's some homework, some homework, Yeah, 645 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.920 tweeter. This is probably a Russell article, isn't it. He's probably 646 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:14.599 quite like this, Well, I'm going to do it. You should do 647 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:19.800 it. Before Russell even listens to this, don't let him. He'll just 648 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:25.039 he'll just write another piece explaining why I'm wrong. Probably, but yeah, 649 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:32.119 good to give them material. So that's Rob's next article idea. Look out 650 00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:38.239 for that on the side in the next ten to bigteen years. 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