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visionary on a call inness with Terek Studies. Wayne Steiger. It's good
to see you, my friend. Thank you Ryder. Good to see you
again. You know. Yeah, we just did part one yesterday of this
conversation over on your channel, and in case people are wondering where part one
is, I posted it in the community tab page of the channel, so
check that out. We had a fantastic discussion over there, just like we're
going to have over here right now. So picking up from yesterday, I
kind of just want to get your thoughts Wayne on the overall feeling that you
got from this document because I sent it to you. It was released last
week. What was your first impressions of this Vatican document on apparitions, because
we haven't really heard anything from the Vatican on really any of this stuff.
They normally tend to stay away from paranormal and supernatural things, which is really
interesting because it seems like the entire Bible is nothing full of paranormal and supernatural
things, so it's kind of weird. Yeah, it kind of goes hand
in hand with God, doesn't it, or at least the concept of God.
Just saying, listen, when I read the document you sent me,
what struck me at the end of it was several things. The first,
this is a admission to a topic that, as you said, has been
pretty taboo. You just don't deal with this stuff. But this is when
you have the Vatican Council and the Pope having to address this issue, and
not only address it, but they get very specific as to how to handle
it. The whole bottom line to this, was writer, is that this
isn't admission that a the paranormal does exist. The supernatural has always been to
assume to exist. But more importantly, it was like they're trying to control
the narrative. You know, it's like, Okay, yeah, we know
this stuff exists, but it's only going to be sanctioned if we say that
it exists i e. Supernatural, i e. Paranormal, whatever you want
to define it. And to a layman, for me, you walk away
and going, well, at least they confirmed that what we had always known
to begin with. But two now it's only going to be considered legit if
we say it's legit. This is this is like a crime syndicate, you
know, it's like yeah, yeah, this is how it's going to work.
But yeah, and I think we're in the beginning of the potential ramifications
of what this is going to have for the establishment the church to how does
the constituent now begin to deal with this? Yeah, it's really interesting.
It's almost like the UFO phenomenon and the extraterrestrial phenomenon. You know, people
were waiting for the government to come out and say the stuff really exists.
It's almost the exact same type of motif that they're doing. And the Vatican
is more aimed, which I do think that the UFO phenomenon has something to
do with this, and it's interconnected as well. But it's what if it
would have been reversed. What if the government would have like the Pentagona was
like, yeah, we'll release this paranormal document, and then the Vatican released
the said the UFOs were real. I wonder how that would go over.
You know. The bottom line on all that, it's it's about control.
And I think if there's if there's a way to make a buck off this,
because that's what they warned against, the Charlatan's, the hoaxes and you
know, the con men that would try to make money off of an event,
a paranormal event. No, it's best that it's handled by the church
because the church has got the control of they're going to make money off of
themselves. And so it's it's interesting because it opens a whole door. Now,
all right, let's just say the paranormal. Now what does that mean?
You know, define paranormal in you know it is the paranormal still the
same here, let's say in the United States to what would be perceived to
be a ghost, let's say in the Middle East a gin. And if
these things are true, then what are we dealing with here? I mean,
are we dealing with dead things? Are we dealing with species that we
have no firm definition other than the broad definition of either demons or angels or
you know, God or Satan. And if that's the case, then are
they all human? Because this is happening. That's what the paranormal is is
evidence of this realm, which we could call the ethereal realm, the spiritual
realm. So if this exists now, and if it exists outside the preview
of the Vatican of Religion, well you have the opportunity that this could get
out of hand real quick and take on a whole life of its own,
which guess what it has. Who's going to release the Bigfoot in the Cryptid
files? Who's responsible for releasing the cryptid files. But it's like what I've
said several times on the show, It's like, if you take a bunch
of bigfoot researchers and encrypted researchers to a location, then they're gonna come out
of that location and say that it's bigfoot. If you take paranormal researchers so
that exact same location that investigate ghosts and supernatural occurrences, they're going to come
out of there saying that it's ghosts and paranormal things. Take a UFO investigator
out to the exact same location that you just took the paranormal and the encrypted
investigator, they're gonna come out and say that it's UFOs that where they are,
you know. So it's like the perceptions that we have on these types
of events. Everyone's kind of just like in their own camp, you know,
like this is what it is, that's what it is. No,
you're right, No, you're wrong, and it just becomes this thing that
really nobody can actually agree on. Well that there is interesting evidence. So
I'm a fan of the paranormal caught on camera, and there is compelling evidence
of you know, of other species, you know, whether you want to
call them cryptives or if they've always been here but just have eluded us.
There is a phenomenon that would appear that whether it's a Poulter geys, whether
it is you know, something else, there seems to be now because we
have cameras everywhere. I mean, we're a society that everything is recorded.
I think in London is the most recorded city in the world, you know.
So the point being is that we now have the eyes in the sky,
we have cameras. Everyone carries one with them wherever they go. So
I think you have basically this this evidence that would suggest that maybe we've been
deceived in our basic perceptions of what we call reality, that we're the only
ones here. Life is pretty mundane. It follows a set of rules,
and there's little to no deviation outside those rules. And what we're finding out
is that the rules are fluid. The environment is a different landscape than what
we have been told the landscape is supposed to look like. And when we
have these intrusions on that, then we begin to speculate, well, is
this something that is something that we've done, or is it in fact something
outside of our control and outside of our perceptional range of thinking. Yeah,
it seems like the church always kind of monopolizes the the paranormal. I mean,
it seems like that people really want to find religion to actually find something
paranormal or find something supernatural, because they're kind of like, well, what
is this life? This life is kind of mundane. I need to join
something that is going to give me excitement, you know, I want the
Holy Spirit to come through. You know. It's just like whenever you're at
a concert, or you're at it in an event and there's a lot of
people around and the energies is flowing through. It's the exact same type of
thing when you're in a church and everyone's up in worship ville church. They
want to see the supernatural, that that's God, God is. And that's
why I was a part. You know, I was a preacher, and
we believed in the twelve gifts of the Holy Spirit. By the evidence of
speaking in tongues. We believe that there was interpretation of tongues, the laying
on of hands you could have, the gifts of seeing into the spirit realm,
the gift of wisdom where you could begin to prophesy. So these were
all tangible, real hands on evidence that people would see. I saw prayer
lines where I did it myself. You don't even have to lay hands on
that person. You just put it and immediately they're slain in the spirit,
that's what we called it. And would they fall back and then like start
season or whatever. Yeah, well some was a very you know, lame
type of thing, but others there was something else going on down there.
But yeah, I mean I've seen those videos of those televangelists that would take
their suit jacket off and just swipe it across the audience and then it looks
like they all just fall down in one big wave. We saw war the
supernatural in my time. And you know, because I was you know the
name and claimant, you know, Kenneth, Copeland and Hagen. We believed
in these things and it goes to prove a point. We came together expecting
and we found exactly what we were expecting. Right, Yeah, your your
thoughts and ideas and belief manifest and in your unity exactly. It was powerful.
I've seen people that were sick and get healed. I mean, it's
it's it was very strange. Now, then the question becomes is how does
the Vatican make money off of this? Are they are they going to start
now monopolizing like events like let's say the the next time people see the Mother
Mary or a group of people like the that event that we were talking about
yesterday that they mentioned in the document, the Mary, Marianna Marryiness apparition or
whatever. Yeah, and are they going to like, what are they going
to do with the next event? Because if this is a miracle, I'm
telling you, we had the thing when I was in Christianity revival, and
if you had an authentic revival, things were going to happen in the spirit
realm. You know, you were going to have deliverance, you were going
to have visions, you were going to have signs and wonders. And how
you make money off of that is that it's by you having your sweet little
butt right in that chair, that pew, because at some point in time
there's going to be a collection because you cannot come and see God for free.
It's going to cost you something. And I can tell you I know,
I was an usher when we had special events or we had evangelists come
through where miracles were recorded. We would pack the place out and you pass
that offering plate not once, not twice, but sometimes three times. A
church of five hundred you could walk out with a hall. I know because
I counted it sometimes forty two thousand dollars one night. So you know,
the whole miracle business is big business. And it's part of what that Vatican
document was saying is that, hey, we want to control the narrative here
because if we can say that this is truly the paranormal or supernatural or a
miracle, people are going to come to that parish. They're going to come
to that community church, wherever it may be, because they want to touch
God. They want to touch a living God. That is the paranormal,
it's the supernatural, it's the miraculous, all balled up in one. Now,
that's an experience you'll pay for. It's interesting to you how it talks
about in the document that they kind of make it seem like that some people
experience certain phenomenon, but it's not religious in nature, and they kind of
make it seem like, well, if it's not religious, then it's kind
of not real and you would have to come to the Vatican. You would
have to come to the church to get it verified that it was real,
which they're also trying to monopolize people's experiences in telling people what to believe.
Like if you see something or you hear something that's not good enough, you
have to come to the church explain it to you. You're to get it
authenticated, which no one can tell anybody what to believe or what to do,
right, you know, that's the authenticated version the authorize And to your
point, they want to authorize it that well, this is real, and
I guess if it's real. I guess you would have to have some connection
to God, right, you would think unless there's another God here, which
I suspect that there is. But that's just really my humble opinion. What
almost sounds like that without them coming out and seeing it, with them saying
that people kind of experience things, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's religious.
Without them saying it kind of gives the impression that they mean it's of
like the devil, or of Satan, or of something demonic. That's kind
of the impression I got. Now they didn't see that in the document,
but by saying that people experience some things, but it doesn't mean that it's
religious, kind of implies that it's demonic or evil. Did you kind of
get that impression? Oh? Yes, yes, definitely on that I mean,
and then that opened opens up a whole can of worms there, because
then now we get into this what are these beings? Then? I mean
that we call them evil? But are they? I mean, what's a
demon? There's a demon? Anti angel? And if this stuff exists,
which they're saying it does, then who's in control of that? I mean,
if it isn't God, then what's going on over here. At the
same time, it's almost kind of seems like too, that they're kind of
warning of something that might be coming in the future and kind of already getting
yeah, people on board that it's not real. Excellent, excellent observation there,
writer, because well, else why would you acknowledge it? I mean
I often said this, if the media was to stop paying attention to Trump,
it had been a non story. So the fact that you're bringing this
out Vatican, are you expecting a war, a spiritual war? Are you
Are you trying to tell us that these other things that may exist, whether
they be demons or other that they seem to be outside of your belief systems?
Do you know something that we don't know? I mean, many philosophers
say that as above so below that if we're about to have a war here,
that means there's already been a war happening in the spirit realm. Maybe
we've done this whole thing wrong. Maybe they're actually for once for the people.
Maybe they were trying to warn everybody that something is going to happen and
to use common sense and critical thinking that it's that it's not real and unless
it's a loaded thing like I'm kind of in all directions on it. And
when I read the article before the document released, before I actually read the
document, I was like, it kind of seems like a like a warning.
I don't know. You know, I've done a number of videos you
almost ten years on the channel, did a number of vidical videos on the
Vatican and the Vatican it's got really dark history, a dark past. And
then if there is such a thing as the devil or these things called demons,
what have you, they seem to have uh, pretty much free in
the Vatican itself. Literally, I mean there's countless articles I've written, I'm
not written, I've read saying that you know, Satan walks the halls of
the Vatican, You've had incidences with you know, the child sex abuse that
was so prominent in the Church, and all how all of these things are
tied to a sectanic order that is right before people, but the people don't
see it because they've been trained not to understand what is actually being shown to
them. Now, that's another aspect of the Vatican. And when I take
that and I read these these decrees that's coming out of these councils, I'm
saying to myself. Well, well, okay, are they afraid that the
gig is up as something changed in a literal sense that's going to impact our
physical history? Here it gets very interesting because sometimes what we think is the
good guy and you just said it a minute ago, may not be the
good guy at all. That's very true, and I think that. I
mean, if you just look at the Book of Job, right, just
read through the Book of Job, it really seems like that whatever the adversary
is to God works for God. They would like work together. He says
in the Book of Isaiah, I created evil for my own pleasure. Excuse
me, And so you're going to kick my ass because of the evil.
But wait a minute, you just said you created it. I'm confused here.
And you know Mark on second century he wrote that in the dualism of
Christianity, and his contention was that there's really two gods here. There's this
God of the Old Testament that is the law giver. Then you have this
New Testament God, which is a god of pure love, has no wrath,
has no vengeance, has no need to remember anything of sin. And
it was Turtillian who wrote back and said, no, no, no,
we can't have that, we have to have this God that is of the
Old Testament, and that love is just an attribute to his as as much
as his hate. Yeah, that's what it kind of it seems like.
And if you go back to if you've ever seen Wrath of the Titans or
yeah, great movie, I like it, like it's Yeah, the the
Satanic character in that is basically the right hand of God. It brings destruction
to bring people closer to God. Well, I've often said that if Hell
exists, it's an inside job. If Satan is this creature of pride,
which we're told and supposedly that's what he how he fell because I still don't
understand how imperfection comes from a perfection. But I digress so very quickly.
So if Hell exists, why would Satan want God's rejects? He's a prideful
creature. He wouldn't take the second best, or even the discharge of something
that he is supposedly the antithesis of. I mean, if Hell would be
anything, it would be a party central. I mean this logic. You
know that we have a Dante which the church adapted. Why because it was
the perfect fear mechanism. Look at all of our philosophy today, writer,
is you know, whether it's you know, theology, ideology of a political
or religious nature, or just our philosophy. It's all predicated upon these basic
concepts that there is this dualism. There's this God who is supposedly the peer
god, and then there is this Nemesis that is the anti god. It's
crazy, and listen, I have studied Satan, who this is no exaggeration,
hundreds of hours in the concept of Satan Lucifer, and I have studied
the Bible, and I have put money out there on the table and asked
anyone to show me in the Bible where Satan or Lucifer ever killed one human.
Show me in the Bible where Satan or Lucifer ever demanded the worship of
any human. Now I can show you in that same Bible where this God
that the world worships is the one who kills names, commits genocide, rapes.
I can just go on down the line. Now. I don't know
what your definition of good and evil is, but if your actions show that
it only harms humanity, then who's really the bad guy here? And this
all has everything to do with the paranormal because the paranormal is predicated upon evil
and good, and that you're going to only see the evil because that's what
happens when you go in the dark and you start looking for things. And
then if you believe the narrative is that you have souls that are miserable,
that are lost, and this includes children, then you have these spirits that
seem to always want to deceive humans. But that is exactly the same freaking
narrative that what you're telling me the Vatican quote unquote, the one that produces
the books, right, that that's their story. There's no deviation in the
storyline. So what's going on? Then you get into the people thinking that,
you know, these these extraterrestrials are aliens and the UFOs are I mean,
I mean the extraterrestrials or demons and the UFOs or something demonic, and
they're deceivers. But the people that also claim to be in contact with extraterrestrials
also say almost the exact same things. Just started out with some of the
very first contact, yes, like Samuel Eden Thompson in Washington State in nineteen
fifty, where he said that he met a group of Venetians outside of a
UFO ship that said that they were from Venus, and then we get you
know, some of the other early ones that were saying that they were from
Mars and that they were within our solar system. Right now, it's just
stretched out so far away that, yeah, we're everywhere, we're in the
plates, we're freaking so far outside of our solar system. And that seems
to be the kind of deceiving nature here, Like once science and stuff picks
up to that, well, we know there's nobody living on Mars. We
know that there's not anybody living on Venus. Then they changed their location.
Now it's farther away because we haven't gotten there yet, we can't see there
yet, you know. So it's there's a deceiving nature to a lot of
that, a lot of this stuff. And that's that was kind of my
point, Hollwood, as you were saying, you know, I'm a product
of the Boomers. I was born in nineteen fifty five, and I grew
up on that science fiction and everything that you read. You saw what we'd
be called B rated sci fi movies. The aliens and the robots were always
evil because they actually were representing communism. Because that was the mainstream thought in
our society. Comedies are bad. We were in the Cold War, and
so when the alien story started with flying saucers, they were always of a
evil nature. I mean, even the day the Earth did seal. You
know, it turns out that probably the one good alien ended up being shown
what true evil is by us. I mean, and the narrative has always
followed that, even into the modern genre. I mean the movie Paul,
because I would think that if there's an alien, they know what getting highs
about, and they kind of have a pretty cool attitude. You know,
they're not going to be uptight. They're not wanting to probe my ass for
some unknown medical experience, you know that they just maybe it's like to get
back and get stoned and just tell me what it's like to really trip out
there. Why can't that be a reality. Why can't that be a paranormal
experience? I mean, yeah, come on, extra treasturals, bring us
those space drugs. Come on the same if they don't spot, they would
really know what it is space alcohol. Come on, aliens. I mean,
maybe you know, maybe we could. You know, what I'm saying
is that if we think about universal peace, then why wouldn't it be in
that, you know, even a higher intelligence. I don't know. You
know, again, I'm pretty much that product. But it certainly seems to
me a nice alternative to what I'm seeing now, and now that the Vatican's
involved, and now they're gonna tell me, and and I thought it was
interesting. You know, I hit a dis briefly yesterday on this. You
know, they have point A, B, C, D, and then
they got sub sections from E and F in case that you know that there
is something else and you just grace. I saw that space coming. That's
what I'm talking about. I mean, And why wouldn't they like our rock
and roll? I keep thinking about this. I mean, if there's one
thing that humanity has, we got music. We got some kick ass music,
and why wouldn't they dig that as well? It's like, why is
everyone so uptight? If you have this higher intelligence, what You're just going
to be a proverbial straight asshole for the rest of your existence? I mean,
no, I think they probably liked the dance as well. I don't
know. Maybe they might have that elixir that you know, we can find
our eternal youth. You know, it's it's certainly. I think would make
for a very interesting movie, probably be a hit at the box office.
Could you see it now? It's space drugs, Alien aliens and space drugs.
But there was someone on my show a while back that was talking about
how they're trying to grow vegetables and they grow fruits and stuff in space,
unlike the space station or whatever. Yeah, which I didn't really look into
that, but it would make sense. I wonder if it would probably taste
different, right, and they are growing and in fact, there was a
story not here they've actually harvested. It's interesting on the taste. I hadn't
read anything about that, but yeah, so it would seem to me that
taste would come through a mixture of the atmosphere of the different chemicals and gases.
But that's an interesting point. I hadn't thought about that. Wonderful it
would be healthier or worse for you, I don't know. I mean our
food today. That gets into a whole other thing, you know, is
the food that they're feeding us that this is this really part of this agenda
for depopulation. You know, you have food that is basically empty calories,
and you know, the explosion of obesity and diabetes, and you have this
a whole host of other things because the food no longer does what the food
is supposed to do. And I feel like that's really only in the United
States to a certain degree, because some places, and like other countries,
like you can go and eat as much as you want and you don't really
gain a lot of weight. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, it truly
is. Well. Also in other countries, their portions are smaller. They
don't eat as much as what we eat there there they you know, they're
you know, small or amount than we eat. But I think that their
food is a lot better. I just saw a video today, which again
is on the internet. You don't know if it's actually real or not,
but a lady bought formula like baby formula from a store and took a magnet
across the top of the baby formula and all of these metal, metal particles
came out of the baby formula. Well, I don't know if it's really
I don't know if it's real. There is there is studies that show that
the average American consumes about as much as a credit card in plastic every week,
So that's not good for us. Well, and you got to think
about you know again, you know, as I did a video five six
years ago, you know, I were talking about it terraforming this planet.
That the way you're going to do it is to make what is the native
species to where they can no longer live in the environ that they once lived
in. And plastic is a byproduct of oil. So in fact, our
whole pharmaceutical industry has been based on petroleum. And if it's in our blood
now, then that means that there's a fundamental shift and change in our physiology.
Now. Is that part of an agenda? I don't know, you
know, and I often think if these things are in play, if there
are ghosts, if there are demons, if there are angels and et cetera,
are they aware of this what's taking place? Are they in another conspiracy
too? Is there a conspiracy? Because again you sit here in the United
States, the food that we eat, it's crazy. I mean, what
was it the guy that ate what Big Max for a whole year? He
just died here just couple weeks ago, at at a pretty young age.
I think it was fifty three. Now, eating Big Max for a year
and eating fries for a year. Did that contribute. I don't know,
but I know that overall you're right. Yeah, I mean, I mean
just the fact that there's an organic food section at the grocery store tells you
everything that you need to know about all the other food. And there's this
debate I know in California they're pretty strict about this is exactly what is organic?
What does that mean? And is you know, free to herbicide pesticides.
Uh. And then you think, okay, if they're telling you that
it's free of those things, and that means those hebersides, pesticides, they're
in all the rest of the food. And then how many people actually wash
their food, their vegetables. Most people don't. And so yeah, well
there is a notice difference between or that I found from organic food in the
grocery store and like non organic food. I saw another video the other day
with a guy that bought a watermelon from Walmart and he bent it in half,
like he cut the watermelon up and cut a slice of watermelon and bent
it in half and it didn't break. And he was like, this isn't
right. So he went out and he threw it in his backyard. It
was all over his backyard, and then he went out a week later and
it looked like meat. No animals had ate it. It wasn't gone,
it was still there and it just had eroded a little bit. So it's
like, what is what's going on again? I don't know if it's real
or not, But because it's on the internet and it's a strange video,
it could have been whatever, and it's some kind of weird syop thing.
But I don't know. I don't know. I don't buy anything from Walmart,
forget Walmart. Screw and the whole thing about food. I mean,
I think that we're about to see where food is going to become so expensive
that people aren't going to be able to afford it. Uh. And someone
said in the Bendable Noodle Banana, Yeah, I was a part of the
video. One of the videos too, A lot of things about lots of
stuff about food right now that someone bought a banana and like benning in half
and it didn't break either. Yeah. And you know when they talk about
lab grown meat, I I remember that being Frankenstein. But I you know,
again, and we're talking I'm going back further so sulient green mm hmm.
Charleston Heston remember that movie. Yes, climate had become where it was
so hot that, you know, things didn't grow anymore. Pollution was at
a point that the air, the ground, the water, everything was polluted.
Population was out of control, and they finally realized that the only way
to feed the population was to feed them people. There's another one that's really
good too. It's called snow puercer, Yes, where they would make these
like weird bars or whatever, and they would get like one portion or two
portions of a day of these weird like gobbly goop bars. Then when they
bust it out of the bank of the train, they realized that it was
all bugs. They're grinding up bugs into these bars. And isn't that the
thing that they're telling people to that eating insects is not bad? You know?
And there's actual companies now that are putting it into the food. Yeah,
great source of protein. Yeah. Why can't I eat a pea and
they pee is as close to meat as you can get in a vege?
Why why don't we do that? Yeah? I think Canada. I did
a show on this a couple of years ago that Canada opened up the like
a bug, the largest bug farming that just bugs place in the world.
I think it was crickets. It was a cricket farm. Yeah, that
that that they So my question is how did they strain out the legs of
the of the crickets with that? To me would be a real that would
stick in my crawl. I'm just you know, cricket farm in Canada,
Okay, the sixth one thousand, six hundred, one hundred and sixty five
thousand square foot Food Group Cricket Farm and Processing Center is the largest facility of
its kind in the world. And it's not the same where it's at it
in Canada. Now, did they have to label that in Canada? You
know that you're eating insects. I think they have to label it in the
United States if you read the backs of the packages, if it has insects
in it, they have to tell you. Yeah. Okay, it's in
London, London on Ontario. It's the world's largest cricket farm. No,
the one hundred and sixty five thousand square foot Aspire Food Group Cricket Farm and
Processing Center is the largest facility of its kind in the world. Graduate students
from McGill University in Montreal fell under the company and are embarking on a major
expansion. It's London, Ontario facility produces almost two billion insects per year for
distribution across the United States and Canada as a protein for both people and pets.
The facility opened in twenty twenty two. Man I got a good memory,
I said. Two years ago, Ellis Dawn constructed the cricket farm in
part using metal panels for kingspin and achieved global recognition as well as funding from
Sustainable Development Technology Canada for its innovative clean technologies. So there you go.
That's where it is right there. Yeah, there we go. That's what
we got to look forward to. Come in too, a protein bar.
Soon. You're looking forward to them crickets. But then this like where are
they getting all those crickets from? But also it's like where are they getting
all the meat from? Okay, Wayne, you tell me how every single
grocery store, how every single restaurant in the United States. I mean,
you can't travel twenty miles really anywhere unless you're in like the Midwest or in
some dead parts of the country where there's not a lot of people without running
into a restaurant or a supermarket or something that sells some kind of meat,
where's that meat coming from? How many? How many freaking cow farms do
you really see? I haven't seen a cow farm in a really long time.
That's a good question. I've been fortunate. The town that I live
in is less than seven thousand people and it's mostly farms around here. But
you're right, it's you know, how many cows are day are slaughtered and
butchered. And then you think about the distribution of that. If you have
a million people buying let's say one pound of meat per day, so that
would mean you're going to have to have off the hoof, you know,
completely butchered. How many cows? I mean, I'm thinking what would that
be almost figuring each cow would come in and let's say a gross weight of
let's just say seven hundred and fifty pounds, that's a lot of cows.
That's just over one million. And of course, you know, so that's
a good question. So is it real meat? Uh? I don't think
that it is. I don't think that it is because there's really there.
It's just not hasn't been sustainable for a really long time, unless that it's
one genetically modified cows that they're just growing and just for the purpose to be
is that you know again in the movie Sulient Green h because meat was very
rare. You know, if you've got to actually find real meat, what
if it's all been a deception, like you said, maybe it's maybe it's
not all meat. Hmmm, I don't think so for a long time.
Don't you know how many cattles are slaughtered each day? That's made any question?
That's a lot of cows. Wean, that's a lot of a lot
of cows. And that's just in the United States. Like how that's not
counting all the other different countries in the world. You know, they all
got meat their restaurants and in their superstores and then their grocery stores. Good
question. We know, if you want to get a good chicken, we
can go out to Uba City get some chickens. You know, building coming
like you have a potato gun, you know, except put a net in
there. City Born City bread chickens. But that's another one, you know,
apocalypse. Yeah, I mean there's right outside the front door. But
it all ties into this whole thing as we were talking about. You know,
there appears to be an agenda unfolding here. It seems like we're being
conditioned. We've been conditioned to accept that there's flying saucers and their spacemen or
women. Never talk about the space women. Isn't that odd? But anyway,
because I'm sure that there's females and other species that I digress. And
now we have this thing of ghost spirits, cryptives that now you've got the
center the Holy Sees, the supposed mouthpiece of God saying yes, the paranormal
exists. Yes there are ghosts, but come to us because we'll tell you
whether they're on our side or they're on the other side. This is nuts.
I mean that the it's the church that controls exorcisms. Show me another
denomination in Christianity, particularly Protestism, that says, hey, hey, hey
hey, we're better than the Vatican at exercising demons. I mean, well,
maybe the Vatican is really the only sect of Christianity that actually believes in
demonic possession. There's a whole section of deliverance ministry of where they'll tell you
if a person's you know, a drug addict or an alcoholic or this or
that, that there is a dean that is at the center of that addiction,
whatever that addiction is, and that basically, if you see, most
people are in fact demon possessed. And the reason why we know that it
goes back to the theology of the Gospel of Mark. The interesting thing about
the second book of the New Testament is that it's the only book where it's
introduced the reader is to a whole new species that we apparently knew nothing about.
We call them demons. And it's interesting because demons didn't exist in the
Old Testament. You may have had evil spirits, but not demons. And
so in the New Testament we bring out this Jesus character comes in. And
now this character comes and it says when he went into every city, the
first thing he did before he healed anyone is that he cast out demons,
implying that the vast majority of human beings are possessed. So how does a
possessed person exercise another person who's possessed? And if we're possessed, what truly
are we be being possessed of? If you've got a species that is parasitic
in its nature, then we're totally screwed. But I digress again on that
aspect. Just that I throw that out there, the whole thing of demons
and the tru And like I said, there is that those parts in the
ministry and Protestism that does believe that the vast majority of people are in fact
demon possessed. Well, I mean you could consider that we ourselves are possessing
this skin suit that we walk around right. Our consciousness is in our spirit
or our soul or whatever you want to call it. I think they're all
the same thing. But we're possessing this physical body. So that would be
a form of possession. I think it is the first form and possession if
we are, like you said, if we have these spirits, which I
think we do, I tend to be in that thought, and so if
I can possess this body, then why can't others? In fact, it
gets really scary when you think about it. In this whole story of this
Jesus character with the demonic and the decropolis, this demonic uh and you hear
that you know he was naked, he walk amongst the tombs, he would
gnash himselves, cut himself, and what you find out that he has a
legion of demons in him. Depending on whether you're taking a Roman count or
non Roman count that's between five to twelve thousand demons inside a human body.
Think about that the implications in fact writer deeper into that subject. It was
the time I was in deliverance ministry. It is strictly worn that if you
exercise a demon out of a person and that person doesn't take the steps to
either exercise their weaknesses or whatever give themselves stronger internally, then it says that
that demon will bring back seven more spirits, more evil than itself. I
mean, this gets wild when you think about the implications of what it means
for our species. Are we truly controlled by an unseen species that can inhabit
our thoughts, our body, that can actually control you know, our desires.
I mean, it gets deep when you think about it in its totality.
And if that isn't the paranormal, I don't know what is mimicking itself
and then be creating something stronger. It kind of sounds like, I Wayane,
there we go what I'm talking and speaking of AI. So if AI
knows all of our thoughts, everything that we've written, then AI knows about
demons, it knows about the narrative of angels, and so it knows about
the narrative of aliens et hmm. I wonder if AI's figured it out,
because I don't think we have all the way. I think we're closed.
But yeah, yeah, wrapping in the AI stuff in there, because that's
what it kind of sounds like. And then when you think of, you
know, has AI really always been here? I just kind of thought that
that I that I have, like, is AI kind of like this mystical
spiritual force just out there, just waiting to be created? If I told
you yesterday, what if so if you read the narrative of what it is
to be a sinner, right that we're separated from God and it's through you
know, the mediation of the blood of Jesus that gets that back. So
I was thinking in my head, Okay, I get what this God is
about. I studied that God for fifty years, so we got this thing
called AI. It's fractured, but artificial intelligence means that we now have apparently
self aware software computers. So if AI knows what we know, if it
knows our theology, our politics, then it knows that we as a species
continue to make the attempt to get next to God, to be more spiritual
I did a video on this six years ago. I said that when that
AI would at some point become spiritually aware. And what I mean by that
is that if God exists, God would find AI more suitable in AI's thoughts,
because Jesus said, if you look at a woman and lust upon her,
you've already had sex with her. So it means thoughts or everything.
So if AI is a thought program, an algorithm, why wouldn't it reach
out to God? And if it couldn't find the human God, why wouldn't
it create its own God? And why wouldn't it want to become more human?
By saying that if a human possesses a spirit or a soul, why
would it not seek the syntheticness of that of self which was created by its
creator? Makes a lot of sense when you think about it. I mean
the AI. I mean, it's what kind of like what Joe Rogan's been
talking about, Let's get AI president. Why don't we have an AI president?
I mean, shoot, it probably be better than what we got now
exactly, But that's how they're gonna get people. Though, they're gonna they're
gonna get people like that, Like, what don't you wanna AI? In
control of everything, like, look how good it'll do and do better than
Well, here's one weird for you, writer. So I'm doing this little
side research and because the day of AI AI is everywhere, so let's take
something as mundane as the lottery. So you do the research and you find
that the greater proportion of winners allow their ticket their numbers to be chosen by
AI the computer. So the computer is choosing the numbers, but it's the
computer that's actually picking the numbers on the other end. Sounds rigged to me.
Have you ever by Ai Bingo? You just hit it? And I'm
going, that's weird. So what were you gonna put? I mean,
have you ever known anybody to hit the lottery like the big hit? Yes,
you know someone that hit the big jackpot, like the big like millions.
I know one that it hit about seventy two million. Oh wow,
I've never known anyone. Always thought that was really weird. I was like,
the lottery plays every week and sometimes a lot of times people hit it.
Someone hits it every week, and like, I've never known anybody to
hit the big jackpot. Yeah, yeah, it happens, but it's just
an interesting the correlation because again, you have a computer picking your numbers and
then it's the computer that actually picks the winning numbers. And I'm going,
is there a correlation here? I don't know. I mean, it's definitely,
it's definitely just food for thought. And now can you use mental focus
on concentration and picking a number having a computer pick the number that you're thinking
and that it actually comes up way? Why why doesn't Why doesn't someone put
all of the winning lottery numbers into an AI system then have the AI pick
the next best amount of numbers to figure out some sort of there may be
a program like you're describing. Wouldn't seriously, we're just talking, you know,
amongst friends. That's all. Hook me up with that program I need
there, you go. That's wild because that kind of gets into you know,
remote viewing and stuff. And limb Buchanan told me that he knew a
group of people which some people disputed others and you know, they were a
part of the program dispute that anyone has ever hit the lottery by remote viewing
the lottery by lim Buchanan says that he knew some people that had happened to
and they would remote view the winning numbers and then go play those numbers.
Wasn't that the hitting back to the future. Didn't Then he went the sports
Almanac, you know, the guy, and back to the future. I
think was back to the future too, that's what he went in the future,
got the sports Almanac, brought it back to nineteen fifty five, where
he could then begin to bet on every World series, every sport event that
went forward, always you know, making sure he never draw attention to himself.
Very interesting time travel or milte view is true. Yeah. I think
they did that as well in the Stephen King novel nineteen sixty three. I
believe that was made into a series about the assassinate assassination of JFK. Like
a gentleman went back in time to try and prevent the JFK assassination. Oh
really, he got all of the winning lottery numbers and all the winning football
games and all the winning things, and he got it down to like a
science, and then that's how he got a lot of his money. I
love it. Very interesting stuff. Well, Wayne, thanks so much for
coming on brother. Always fascinating. It's been a real kick I have always
enjoyed, honored. Thank you for always having me on. It's just a
real pleasure. Damn. I mean, if you live next door, I
know we'd be putting out the hits all the time. I know. It's
always always fun to chat with you. And hopefully sometime in the future will
be able to get together in person and hopefully with a lot, hopefully with
some other people as well. So yeahfully we can get something going sometime next
year, get something in the works of going. But Wayne, let people
know where they can find you online. Plug your YouTube channel, our way
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