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The Cincinnati Bengals lost DJ Reader early 10 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:47.079 on Saturday, so we got a sneak peek at what they might do to 11 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:51.640 adapt their defense without him. Let's get into it. You are Locked On 12 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:58.079 Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast, part of the Locked On podcast Network, 13 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:19.480 Your Team every Day Bengals fans and welcome to another episode of the Lockdown 14 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.719 Bengals Podcast. I'm your host, Jake. Let's go join today by Mike 15 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:26.519 Santagatis, we review the film from a Long Time Ago. Now. Saturday, 16 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.079 the Bengals played the Vikings. We're going to get into some of the 17 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:34.400 adaptations we might see from the Cincinnati Bengals on defense and on offense if Jamar 18 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:37.000 Chase misses this week. But with the status in the air, we are 19 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.400 going to start on the defensive side of the ball. Today's episode brought to 20 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.280 you by the Game Time app, where you can use promo code locked on 21 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:48.799 NFL to get twenty dollars off your first purchase of last minute tickets, lowest 22 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:52.560 price guaranteed. And Mike wants to talk about on the defensive side of the 23 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:56.760 ball, including Mike Hilton fantastic day, Miles Murphy continuing to trend in the 24 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:01.680 right direction. Some things did go well for this defense, despite Nick Mullins 25 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:06.040 putting up twenty four points, despite some of the things that didn't go so 26 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.719 well, and despite losing DJ Reader and the run Dee was not one of 27 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:14.080 the things that for the most part in this game was very good. They 28 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.919 had to change the way they were approaching run defense without DJ Reader, though, 29 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:23.479 what were the big changes we saw from lou Ana Rimo when DJ reader 30 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:30.000 was to clear down essentially wholesale philosophical changes on how you defend the run, 31 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:35.840 where with Reader in, they will slow play everything. I mean by that 32 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.599 is guys are controlling their gap a lot of gap. Reader is going to 33 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:44.360 be two gapping or gap and a half. Sometimes they have Hill doing that 34 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:46.039 as well. And you're gonna go slow. You're not gonna try to get 35 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:52.360 penetration. You're gonna try to destroy this block and be able to clog everything 36 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.479 up so that these are all one yard games. They tried that for a 37 00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:00.479 little bit after Reader went down. The guys were unable to do it because 38 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:05.000 he's kind of the key cog there. He's the nose. He's taken up 39 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.840 both A gaps tupou whoever they had in there wasn't going to be able to 40 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.759 take up both a gaps. And actually they were getting kind of driven off 41 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.159 the ball a little bit, so they switched it. And the first thing 42 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:20.840 is that they started kind of stunting a little bit pre sending some pressures, 43 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:27.680 and that is going to be playing fast. And there are two different plays. 44 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:30.439 They spiked the end and that is that end is in the C gap 45 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:35.599 and he's just gonna slant inside to the B gap and usually cross the face 46 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.120 of the tackle. And outside of that you still need a CE gap defender, 47 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:43.400 so out goes a linebacker, and that linebacker is going to come free 48 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:46.439 most of the time because the tackle goes, oh crap, I gotta take 49 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:47.960 this guy so that he's not a free runner. And now, well there's 50 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:52.240 a different free runner. So that happened to get Logan Wilson a free tackle. 51 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.159 They got a few run stops doing that, but it becomes a very 52 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:01.240 volatile way to play run defense. You'll probably more TFLs because you're trying to 53 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:05.439 penetrate, you're trying to slant get guys free. But at the same time, 54 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:11.439 you're probably also going to leave some stuff available for these backs to take 55 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:16.120 advantage of when something doesn't work, because now instead of slow playing and letting 56 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:20.759 it, you know, clog everything up and don't allow any holes. While 57 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:25.199 when you're playing fast, sometimes those holes get created. And you can kind 58 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:29.399 of think about how teams played the Bengals, not this week but the last 59 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:31.199 two weeks, which the Vikings do fast, but that's a whole different thing. 60 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:35.079 They're way different than any defense. But like the Jags, they took 61 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:38.639 advantage of Jags. They want to play fast, they want to get penetration. 62 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:41.519 So let's just trap that guy. So now you have to be able 63 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:45.839 to lookout for those type of things where they weren't trapping the three techs in 64 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:47.399 the Bengals defense very often because they're like, well, that guy's not getting 65 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:51.519 up field. He's reading run, play run, then pass instead of play 66 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:57.399 pass then run, or at least get penetration versus try to hold your gap. 67 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:01.759 It does lead to a more aggressive style of defense. You saw, 68 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:06.199 for example, on the first play of the second half, where DJ Turner 69 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:10.560 just needs to make the tackle on the edge. Logan Wilson gets a free 70 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:15.040 run through, but the running back is able to react in time and bounce 71 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:18.839 it and everybody's playing fast, like you said, and he's able to try 72 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:24.319 to cut it off of a tight end block the seals Dax Hill inside and 73 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:28.160 he has one on one with DJ Turner and makes DJ Turner miss and there's 74 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.319 nobody behind it. There's no help. And you did see that from both 75 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:36.360 safeties and linebackers playing more on the perimeter. You saw the linebackers trying to, 76 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:40.040 like you said, trying to feel faster, trying to find those run 77 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:44.920 throughs, and it does lead to some of those really nice tackle for losses, 78 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:48.600 but also opens you up to some things. On a scale of one 79 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:53.040 to ten, how worried are we about the run games of the next few 80 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:57.480 opponents. Obviously Cleveland has some injuries on their offensive line and that's a few 81 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.360 weeks away, but has presented a tough run game all year. Kansas City 82 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:04.240 and Pittsburgh in the next two weeks, though, what's your concern level on 83 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:09.920 a one to ten scale for just runs up the middle essentially for those teams? 84 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:16.560 Uh eight? Yeah, I was already concerned, but at least I 85 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:18.560 thought like, well, they won't be able to attack the a gaps with 86 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:21.519 Reader there. I was like, well, they could kind of attack a 87 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:27.680 lot of places right now, but you could probably sell out a little bit 88 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:32.199 against the Steelers. It's Mason Rudolph. It might be it was a limited 89 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:38.920 participation for Kenny Pickett apparently on Tuesday. Okay, well, whoever, it 90 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:44.319 is not that I'm worried about Nny Puckett. Whoever it is. It's not 91 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:48.879 a passing offense that you are praying that you're able to stop. It's more 92 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:53.360 so kind of the odes we can't stop that, which I guess that did 93 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:58.360 happen last Pittsburgh Gay. But the Chiefs. I feel like the Chiefs I 94 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.480 have more concerned though, just because they do have a really good interior than 95 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:04.759 Creed Hump for Joe Toney and Trey Smith. They also are going to worry 96 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:08.680 you enough in the past game that even though the pass game isn't what it 97 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.439 has been, I feel like you're never really going to sell out to stop 98 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:16.240 the run against the Pat Mahomes led Andy Reid led team. Yeah, probably 99 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:20.120 probably still going to try to play a little umbrella, keep everything in front 100 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:25.199 of you situation. So I've got quite a bit of concern there. And 101 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.800 then the Browns game is like, that's their entire offense, I mean, 102 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:33.360 and play action, Joe Flacco underthrown deep ball, pass interference and sometimes they'll 103 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.199 actually hit him apparently this year, but we'll talk about that game in a 104 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:41.920 few weeks when we get there. Mike Hilton stood out for a really fantastic 105 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:45.319 game. On defense. You only had three tackles I think in this in 106 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:49.920 the stat book, but successfully defended a screen, successfully carried Justin Jefferson on 107 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:56.120 a post that was almost kicked off because Mullin's underthrew it, had a few 108 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:01.600 really good plays as a blitzer, particularly against the run, a number of 109 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:05.639 plays right at the line of scrimmage. He also blew up the little throwback 110 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.759 pass by getting into Jefferson's face on that little trick play the Vikings ran, 111 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:15.399 forcing him to rush his process and throw it into the ground. Mike Keilton 112 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.519 can help you, and if he's going to play like that, that could 113 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.759 be something that if they need to get more aggressive, more creative with how 114 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.480 they're playing run defense. Mike Kelton a guy that is willing to do it 115 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.879 both from the slot corner alignment and even from you know, a linebacker alignment. 116 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.639 We saw even a couple of times in this game he had a run 117 00:08:31.679 --> 00:08:37.759 through the linebackers. It was exciting. But also they had more saw pressures 118 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.600 than we've seen, and that is typically the pressure you see whenever you see 119 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:45.360 Mike Keilton make some tackle the back, and the saw pressure is both sides. 120 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:50.679 So Sam will saw the Sam and Will are coming, and so both 121 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:56.759 sides pressure coming. It's actually fun that in a few weeks or next week, 122 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:00.720 Spagnolo, that's what he's known for, are these saw pressures, and 123 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:01.879 now it feels like, yeah, Rumo's gonna have to lean on those a 124 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:07.000 little bit, and they almost got caught with one. This is kind of 125 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.720 a cool play from Logan Wilson. They almost got caught on one because they 126 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.120 brought a saw pressure in the Vikings. Perfect answer, let's start a screen 127 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.480 out there because it's two on one for the Vikings not the Bengals. That 128 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.759 is a bad situation to be in. But Logan Wilson recognize what was happening 129 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.440 so fast. Oh no, he's just gonna sprinting out there and he makes 130 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.120 a stop for like one yard. That's fantastic play. You're gonna need those 131 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.639 plays, and you're gonna need Mike Hilton playing well all to make up for 132 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:35.000 this because they're gonna be sending more stuff and they're gonna be sending me saw 133 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.879 pressures. The linebacker's got to have a quicker trigger. But yeah, anyway, 134 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.919 they're gonna send more saw pressures because that's at least I think they will, 135 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.120 because that's what they did in this game than they have in the previous 136 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.679 few weeks. And all that means is, hey, we might see some 137 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.960 Mike Hilton TFLs. It's exciting. It does lead to defensive lineman dropping into 138 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:58.879 mostly like spot drop zones as well, because they're generally dropping guys out when 139 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.080 they send those, not just sending like zero with the corner of blitzes for 140 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:09.480 example, a couple of okay, I mean I know that they'll run straight 141 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:13.639 zero for sure, Like the Wilson play was a five man pressure, so 142 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.879 they weren't in a zero situation. It was I think it was a fire 143 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.840 zone situation. A couple other guys that we're not gonna have time to talk 144 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.840 about in a great deal of depth. But Jordan battle not perfect, but 145 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.360 I thought was pretty good, particularly in run dye. I think he was 146 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.519 there where he was supposed to be. Again for the most part. There's 147 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.960 one play that we talked about before we started recording where he jumps into the 148 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.960 wrong gap that's exploited a little bit, but continues to play physical and willing 149 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:43.000 to play and getting to the right spot in the run game, which is 150 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.759 a welcome change of pace, and Miles Murphy continuing to trend in the right 151 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.879 direction with a couple of really nice plays against Christian Darisa. In this one, 152 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.240 we'll continue the conversation about adaptations and get into the offense a little bit 153 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.759 as Jamar Chase might miss some time. Coming up next. This episode of 154 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:05.720 Lockdown Bengals is sponsored by prize Picks, the largest daily fantasy sports platform in 155 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:11.039 North America. 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The first thing I want to talk about is how they adapt 187 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:26.360 if Jamar Chase has to miss time. Because it's one thing to not have 188 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:33.399 Joe Burrow, and it's incredibly impressive what Jake Browning has done instead for Joe 189 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:39.279 Burrow and in Joe Burrows stead the last few weeks, and they've done it 190 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.639 multiple ways. You credit the offensive coaching staff as well, obviously for things 191 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.919 that we've talked about the last few weeks, be it screen game, be 192 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.639 it changing up the running game this week, finding dagger as a consistent answer. 193 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:54.639 I think every single time either team ran any variation of dagger in this 194 00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:00.879 game, it was successful, but more notably so I think for Jake Browning 195 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:05.600 and the Cincinnati Bengals. But Jamar Chase leaves the game. The Bengals obviously 196 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:07.919 still do enough to win, but Jamar Chase misses twenty snaps in this game 197 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:13.519 and might miss against the Steelers. And if there's a place you're pointing to 198 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.559 on the Steelers where you're thinking we can exploit this, it's probably in that 199 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.519 secondary. How do the Bengals go about doing that or what signs do we 200 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.039 see from them last week against the Vikings that you could see them go back 201 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:28.639 to if Jamar Chase has to mess I do think they have an understanding of 202 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:31.360 what Browning is most comfortable with. And like you mentioned, dagger, but 203 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:35.440 not just dagger, but also the wrap ds on race spools, whatever you 204 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.279 want to call that. It's also part of the Cobo concept. But they 205 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.840 got to that a lot. They got to a lot of intermediate middle of 206 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:48.039 the field stuff and it's typically some type of twelve yard in or fifteen yard 207 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:52.039 in that they just hammered these guys with, and Jake Browning is good on 208 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:56.879 that. I think they're learning that Jake Browning is not very good with the 209 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:00.960 pick aside type reads where they cut it down in the middle. It's like 210 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.519 millfield open, this is millfield closed that way. What he is good at 211 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.519 is hitting all this stuff in the middle of field. But what he's even 212 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:09.440 better at, I think, and this has actually got him into trouble is 213 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.879 how he threw the pick. But he he is very willing to throw an 214 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:18.200 alert, and what that is is basically a lot of times it's something that 215 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.279 quarterbacks kind of just skip past, like the deep ball on something that's really 216 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.840 just designed to clear something out. But then Charlie Jones Charlie Jones exactly, 217 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.159 And that's why I said this in our post game. So I was incredibly 218 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.320 impressed with the reed from Browning there to make that throw, because we've seen 219 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:39.200 Joe Burrow pass that throw up a number of times. Yeah, and the 220 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.200 first throw of the game, the Higgins deep ball that he dropped, that 221 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:45.080 was also the alert on the plane. It's like, typically not something that 222 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:48.919 you're gonna throw, but you know, he kind of hangs there. He's 223 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.799 like, if it's there, I'm throwing it. Type of thing where I 224 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.279 feel like a lot of especially backup quarterbacks, are kind of terrified of doing 225 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.559 that, Like, no, I need to run the offense exactly how it's 226 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:03.120 here so that I keep a job. Browning doesn't really have that running has 227 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:07.039 kind of like a whatever, man, well I'll just toss this deep ball. 228 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:11.200 They'll be happy when it's his hands. So I like that. I 229 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:15.000 like that they're finding what works best for him. I think maybe we just 230 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:22.279 cut out smash concepts. Well, so so let's let's stay on topic here. 231 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.399 What we're talking about first is what they did and what they can do 232 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:30.080 in the absence of Jamar Chase. Okay, well, I think you get 233 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:30.879 to that. I think you still get to the rap ed, you get 234 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:37.120 to the dagger concepts. You work intermediate, middle of the field, high 235 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:41.000 low reads. It's what he's been the best at his entire time here, 236 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:42.759 and that's like the wrap stuff. That's the dagger stuff. That's everything. 237 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:47.480 Whether it's three levels, two levels, it doesn't matter. Maybe they work 238 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:51.200 some drive concepts in there as well this past week. I don't think they 239 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:56.080 really did much with them, but I feel like drive would be the outside 240 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.360 receiver is going to run kind of like a drag underneath shallow route quick and 241 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.640 then the guy inside of him is usually going to do outside release, go 242 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:07.680 for about ten yards and then cut in and just what you're thinking, Hilo 243 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:14.000 linebacker stays on the comes down and tries to drive on that shallow route you 244 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:17.319 can hit the inn behind him. They stay back because they know that's cheese 245 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:19.160 and then you just take the underneath thing and then you usually try to get 246 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.920 somebody that can actually run as the underneath guy in there, so that you 247 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:29.240 know it's not just three yards you can go create, but working all this 248 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:32.960 stuff that he feels comfortable with. That's what you're gonna have to do against 249 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:36.160 Pittsburgh. Is what they didn't know that they could do against Pittsburgh last time 250 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:40.319 they played, because they had him go out there in empty and run dragon 251 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:42.640 line, which is a Burrow loves that. Burrough loves dragged line, slant 252 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:47.039 flat plus double slant. I know exactly where I need to go, and 253 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:51.559 he knows leverage and you know, midfield, open, millfield, clothes whatever. 254 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:53.960 There was a very specific example that they ran that, and Browning starts 255 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:56.200 on the wrong side and it's quick game, so you kind of have to 256 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:00.000 go throw something over there, like I can't reset completely and go to the 257 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.319 other side because the offensive linstick and this ball is coming out in two seconds, 258 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:07.559 so I'm just get this ball out Turfit. Now you're not seeing that 259 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:10.079 as much because he's more comfortable with the stuff that they're trying to run. 260 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.039 So you kind of hit that with or without Chase. I think the one 261 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:18.440 big change you're going to have is well, let's talk about two changes. 262 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:21.200 One. I don't think the Steelers are going to like play a lot too 263 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:25.039 high coverage without Chase, even though Higgins is a great receiver. I think 264 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:26.440 they're going to sell out to stop the run, kind of like they did 265 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:30.519 the last time they played. That feels bold to me when you're missing your 266 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:38.119 two starting safeties. Probably maybe I'm kind of expecting it. Well, one 267 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:41.319 thing I talked with Luke about in the crossover last week was something that the 268 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:45.279 Vikings hadn't seen a lot when they send these blitzes, is when a quarterback's 269 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.519 hot is throwing the vertical. The Bengals did that a couple of times. 270 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:53.240 It didn't always work, but Jake Browning willing to push the ball down the 271 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.319 field, and I think that that was their mentality. Like you think about 272 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.880 the quote that you know Browning said, Callahan told him before the game, 273 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.000 I think you're gonna throw for five hundred yards. Like their approach to that 274 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.039 game was They're going to be aggressive and Jake Browning is going to find a 275 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:11.680 voided zones and throw to them. And I think somebody had the stats, 276 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.680 like against pressure, Browning had a dot of like eighteen yards. Yeah, 277 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.119 yeah, I think that was nid twice or Robert Mays one of those guys 278 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:22.440 on the up Play, Yeah, the Athletic Show podcast. But yeah, 279 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.359 like I think that. But if I was guessing what the Steelers did, 280 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:30.720 like what were we successful with last time? Keeping eight in the box, 281 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.319 stopping the run, making that guy throw, And maybe they're not ready. 282 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.920 They're probably gonna watch film and see some of the stuff, so maybe they're 283 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.039 gonna try to take away some of the middle of field stuff and that gets 284 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:41.359 in the whole chess game. But if I was, if I'm them, 285 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.079 I'm kind of kind of thinking and confident of like, yeah, let's stop 286 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:47.519 the run and make him throw because that's what they did last time. It's 287 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:49.920 like, yeah, we trust our guys, So I think they're not gonna 288 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.400 get as much too high. We'll see, but I think they're going to 289 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.319 sell it to stop the run. And then the other part of not having 290 00:19:56.359 --> 00:20:00.240 Chase is you might not try to run so much isolation stuff. I haven't 291 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:03.079 done a ton of. That's more of a Burrow loves doing that because he's 292 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:07.680 so good on the back shoulder balls and turns those fifty to fifties into eighty 293 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.119 twenty whatever you want to talk about. So maybe you're not going to see 294 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:12.400 a ton of that, but at the same time, they're going to have 295 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:15.960 the opportunity if they do play a lot of single how to just toss the 296 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.440 balls up to Higgins if they want to. That's what I'm thinking. It 297 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:22.920 is just the two things here are we're going to probably try to work more 298 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:29.880 true drop back conflict concepts versus try to work isolation concepts, and they're probably 299 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:32.960 going to have to have stuff that's going to beat a lot of single high 300 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:36.759 plus one in the box stuff that's a small thing. But they also lose 301 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:40.319 some of the jamar chase motion gravity stuff that they like to use to move 302 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:45.359 defenses and kind of set stuff up away from that motion or even they try 303 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.240 to go to him. They also lose some of the quick you know, 304 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.680 RPO alert or RPO access stuff that they would run the chase where they just 305 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.720 get chase the ball at the line of scrimmage. Maybe there's a blocker over 306 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:57.680 there to help, or usually there's a blocker over there to help and you're 307 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:00.319 trusting him to make a guy miss because he's very good at that. They 308 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.440 might still try to do that a little bit. That hasn't been as big 309 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.039 a part of the offense in recent weeks. Second, they can still hit 310 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:11.599 those if they want to. Against Jacksonville, they could, but that's something 311 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.759 they went away from, and I think that's such a game plan specific thing. 312 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:21.319 That's why I struggle to draw too many long term conclusions from any individual 313 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:26.839 game, because they are very defense reactive. Right now, they're changing what 314 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.240 they're doing on offense I think quite a bit to account for what they're expecting 315 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.119 to get in a matchup perspective, and that chess game aspect is quite interesting. 316 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:37.160 But one thing that is encouraging is how well Browning has been distributing it 317 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.960 to a ton of different targets. You go look at the number of players 318 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:45.680 that had catches, a number of players that had targets against Minnesota, and 319 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.839 even really for his entire tenure playing quarterback for the Bengals, he's pretty comfortable 320 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.640 throwing the ball to anybody, and so you do lose some of the individual 321 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:57.359 dynamism and playmaking from Jamar Chase, But maybe that's a sign of sustainability. 322 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:03.519 We'll talk ability, what else we've seen from this offense in Jake Browning that 323 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:06.599 could lead you to buy in a little bit to finish up the show coming 324 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:11.799 up next. Today's episode of Lockdown Bengals is sponsored by the game Time app, 325 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.039 the fastest and easiest way to buy tickets to a Bengals game. 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Mike, let's stay on 356 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.079 the offense to finish up the show here, and if there's anything that we 357 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.519 need to revisit on the defensive side of the ball, they're always happy to 358 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:26.000 do that. But the big topic for me that I've been thinking about that 359 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:27.039 a lot of people have been thinking about. I mean, look at the 360 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:33.119 volume of Jake Browning analysis videos on the internet this week, from Underdog, 361 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:40.079 from jto Sullivan, the airtime that the Bengals are still getting on the Athletic 362 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:41.680 Football Show, and those are the ones that I ingest. So if you're 363 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:45.759 one of the people out there watching cable, watching NFL Network and watching ESPN, 364 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.839 I don't know how much they're talking about Jake Browning there, I don't 365 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:56.319 really care, but I do care about how sustainable things are. They're not 366 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:02.680 playing the best teams. They're playing backup core that continues. They're playing flawed 367 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:07.920 offenses that continues even with the Chiefs. But at three games now of pretty 368 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.799 good play from Jake Crowning. Not perfect by any means, but he's shown 369 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:17.279 you his ceiling I think, or that he can reach a pretty high ceiling 370 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:22.759 at least. What are the things that look sustainable for you after three weeks 371 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.680 versus what are the things that you think still need to be cleaned up or 372 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:30.920 give you some pass? This game gave you a little bit of the uh, 373 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:34.160 a little bit more feeling of sustainability because he worked a lot of drop 374 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:38.279 back and that was one of the big concerns before this week, where he's 375 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.160 always ahead of sticks. You know, he's always got the run game. 376 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:45.400 Almost everything is play action two man concept type stuff, and I don't know 377 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.839 if that's sustainable. What about when the run game is not working. It's 378 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.839 not that the run game didn't work this past week. It was perfect, 379 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:57.319 but I thought it it wasn't as bad as what it was against Pittsburgh earlier 380 00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:00.880 this year. Well, and they got way behind on the game script. 381 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:06.160 Yeah, that's the problem. They fell behind the game script, and that 382 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.559 asked the question, okay, can you drop back and pass when they know 383 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:15.480 you're going to pass? And they were able to now is it going to 384 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.000 carry over week to week? I feel like that is there's a sample size 385 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.160 question here. There's also a question of can he get through a game without 386 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:27.799 throwing the interception that it's like, yeah, nah, it's Nick Tice once. 387 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.480 I've talked about how his feet are tell like Josh Allen's feet will tell 388 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.279 him no one something. He throws it anyway, and you do see on 389 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.400 that play this is in the side of Jake Brown kind of like shuffle Shuffle 390 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.400 throws it anyway. So it's like, I know, I need to move 391 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.839 off this read, but it is what it is. Can you get through 392 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.759 that? He did it without Chase? There are questions about it, but 393 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.440 I do think that it has looked fairly sustainable the past three weeks. I 394 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:57.480 think you're looking at different ways to win against different defenses, against some one 395 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:07.440 very difficult defense. In the Vikings, they're running as they have a lot 396 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.839 of the tenure of a healthy of a healthy Joe Burrow is a lot of 397 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.359 you know, solid concepts that makes sense and work. A guy that is 398 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:19.480 in Browning doing his best in terms of getting to the right read, working 399 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:26.039 you know, with what's given, finding the open guy and then a little 400 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.400 bit extra sometimes with like how he hangs on alerts a little bit and was 401 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:33.880 willing to throw those and probably does a little too much stunt double stuff where 402 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:40.559 he's trying to run around crash into people. But overall it looks sustainable. 403 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:44.119 It's just a question of can it be consistent? Can it work week to 404 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.519 week? And now you're facing the team that really made this not look like 405 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:51.680 it's going to work. Can you go and into Pittsburgh and do that against 406 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:55.680 them? I think that's a big question, and you help the second time 407 00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.359 around with Pittsburgh helps The offensive line has been playing way better. You hope 408 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:06.160 that helps you that that continues. They against Minnesota, Browning talked about took 409 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:11.200 the responsibility of setting the protection off of Jake Browning and let Ted Carris do 410 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.279 Yeah, maybe they've been doing that all along, but it was notable that 411 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.400 Jake Browning took time in his press conference to shout out Ted Carris for handling 412 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:22.559 a lot of that work. And if Ted Carris can do that again, 413 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.160 it lets Jake Browning think about other things. He doesn't have to worry as 414 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.680 much about setting the protection. He has to hear the protection call so he 415 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.480 knows where he needs to be hot and all those things, of course, 416 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.440 but it gives him the opportunity to think more about what's the defense showing me, 417 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.920 what are the things they like to get to out of this look? 418 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:44.400 Against the Vikings, you never know what they're going to play based on the 419 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.519 pre snap look. Like that's the thing about the Vikings. If you go 420 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:52.359 watch these ex quarterbacks Colt McCoy and JT. O. Sullivan breaking down Jake 421 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.799 Browning's tape this week, what impressed him so much was how he was able 422 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.319 to deal with pre snap post snap decision making and how they how he was 423 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.839 able to get the ball to the right place against these very exotic and difficult 424 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:10.000 to figure out looks pre snap. And Pittsburgh doesn't do as much of that. 425 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.839 I don't think anyone does as much of that as as Brian Flora's defense 426 00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:19.759 in Minnesota. But where Pittsburgh challenges you certainly with their pass rush and making 427 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:25.440 things uncomfortable for you in the pocket, but without the safeties in Pittsburgh, 428 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.079 the weakness clearly to me is in their back seven. So if you can 429 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.519 protect can Jake Browning settle in? Can they find that rhythm for him earlier 430 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.119 in the game, because that's really what it is, right. It took 431 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.920 them so long to figure out where those plays needed to come. Some of 432 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.119 the plays they could have had early in the game. You have the Charlie 433 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.079 Jones slow down on the alert ball that we talked about earlier. We had 434 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:53.400 the t Higgins drop on the other alert ball that we talked I guess there's 435 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:59.000 a couple of alert balls. The cup receivers off guard and Browning wasn't seeing 436 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:00.880 things great. I mess during the game that it felt like he was treading 437 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.359 water. It felt like he was drowning a little bit, until suddenly he 438 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.160 wasn't. And so you got to get to that suddenly he wasn't a little 439 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.400 bit earlier in the game, like more of the Colts game, and find 440 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.680 the right time to pull those levers. The other thing that's going to be 441 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.759 interesting is how the run game continues to evolve, because it did feel very 442 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.319 different as we said it would against Minnesota. They didn't do as much of 443 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:27.319 the trap wham toss punished opposing defense for getting up field. They did have 444 00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.839 a pretty successful toss play Chase Brown's best run of the day, but it 445 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.200 was a lot more of the mixing kind of game. The patient, set 446 00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:38.240 up your blocks, bounced it outside, and they do need to run the 447 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:42.799 ball better against Pittsburgh. I think it's noteworthy that they got it back on 448 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.680 track with Jake Browning being a drop back passer, more pure progression stuff, 449 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.839 not splitting the field in half like you talked about earlier. But they did 450 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.599 it without running the ball. They didn't establish the run. They got some 451 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.039 solid workout of the run as the game went on, but they got back 452 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:03.880 into the game throwing a Jake Browning. But if you have a run game 453 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.079 going the way it was going against the Steelers, that does make things harder 454 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.279 because then there's I mean, they got nothing against the Steelers that needs to 455 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.240 be better. What changes can they make there? Do you think schematically to 456 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.200 help the run game have more of a shot? Yeah, I think, 457 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.000 well, one, you're just going to be better execution, because I thought 458 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.960 a lot of the concepts that they kind of dialed up against Pittsburgh made sense 459 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.799 to me. They're trying to run long trap, they're trying to run counter, 460 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.440 they're trying to and if you watch the Bills Cowboys game, it was 461 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.960 almost all long trap and some counter stuff, and they're playing a similar idea. 462 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.039 They're playing an odd front. They're playing five guys up front, and 463 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:42.000 well, Pittsburgh was playing two and sometimes a safety walk down to make three 464 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.759 guys eight guys in the box, and Dallas is kind of the opposite. 465 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.920 They had five guys on the line and one guy behind it. But still 466 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.319 you're in a situation where those angles line up so that that play is going 467 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.000 to work. Their guard will be able to get to that end outside linebacker 468 00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.759 whatever you want to call him, and open up a hole, but everybody 469 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:05.079 else to kind of work out on that because those concepts that they're getting to 470 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:12.440 aren't really concepts where most of the guys on those concepts can't completely fail their 471 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.160 block. You can lose the block, you can lose it slow, you 472 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.960 could lose leverage, but you can't lose so bad a guy crossed your face 473 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.640 and you don't only have a hand on him anymore. So that felt like 474 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:27.480 the big issue against Pittsburgh last time was that Alex Kappa would lose across his 475 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.960 face to Keanu Benton. The tight ends and wide receivers didn't give him anything 476 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.240 in the run blocking department. Which I also think the Higgins is probably their 477 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.799 best blocking receiver and he missed that game, so he'll be in this one. 478 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.759 So maybe you can use him to dig some guys out that they weren't 479 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:44.440 able to do last time. I probably, even without Chase, try to 480 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.319 throw on a little bit of motion sprinkle ins, a little bit of eye 481 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.480 candy in there. Yeah, just go away from that. You have to, 482 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.519 just because I don't think that the spine, especially the linebackers and safeties 483 00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.079 for Pittsburgh are going to be a strong suit. So you give them a 484 00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.079 little something to look the wrong way might take it, especially without Minca, 485 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.240 like Mink would be a guy like I don't think he's going to fall for 486 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.079 that. But now the other guys, yeah, and might not even play, 487 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.960 so I think, well, I think that he's been I think sure. 488 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.640 I think it would be very surprising if he plays. Okay, But 489 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.960 you know, let's mess with their eyes. Let's hit the angles. Let's 490 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.240 kind of work this so that it's uh, the angles work out. Your 491 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.960 running back is going to have defined reads on a lot of these plays, 492 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.799 so you can use brown or mix, and I think more brown would make 493 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.119 sense in this game to just try to generate an explosive in there, for 494 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.519 if this all hits, he's hitt an open field against the backup safety and 495 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.559 he might be able to make that guy miss and go for a huge game. 496 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.759 One of the most impressive plays for Chase Brown, and I mentioned this 497 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.200 I think on the post game show was running through the cameraon Binden tackle on 498 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.000 the screen early in the personnel too. That was two running backs. Just 499 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.960 just love seeing that power from him because I didn't really see a ton of 500 00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:00.039 that in his game prior to the last couple of weeks, so nice to 501 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.759 see that element coming along. Last thing I'll say then we're going to get 502 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.079 out of here is I've been really impressed with the coaching staff the last few 503 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.480 weeks, finding answers, finding the right levers to pool at the right times, 504 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:13.119 and that includes on the defensive side of the ball, then includes on 505 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.320 the defensive side of the ball against some vikings. I thought that lou An 506 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.639 Riumo for the most part, not always because you're not always going to be 507 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.760 right as a defensive coordinator, but I thought he mostly called a pretty good 508 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:29.559 game and then just didn't really get the execution he needed out of some guys 509 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.559 on the field at some times, and then Justin Jefferson just went berserk at 510 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.960 times, or you know, Mullins would float a ball out there to Jordan 511 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.199 Addison that turned into two touchdowns that we're two of the stupidest touchdown passes I've 512 00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:43.360 ever seen. And some of that's execution, right, like you have a 513 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.079 chance to make plays on the ball or to at least make a tackle there 514 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.119 for Jermaine Pratt and for DJ Turner, and DJ Turner had a game that 515 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.840 he's going to need to learn from and improve from. But I did think 516 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:58.800 that on both sides of all the coaching staffs have found some pretty good answers 517 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.079 and have called some pretty good game lately. But that's going to do it 518 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:05.559 for this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. You can find Mike at Bengals 519 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.159 Underscore Sands on Twitter on It's always Game Day in Cincinnati the podcast. Until 520 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.400 next time, thanks for listening to this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. 521 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:16.679 Who day, and have a good one.