1 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,960 Hey, everybody, Welcome to the episode of Challenge, the podcast all about 2 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:33,600 the Challenge as usually, Brian sitting across the internet for me is big Uncle 3 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:42,159 Sweet two and also Zachy Bananas whoop whoop. He challengepot dot com. Join 4 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,880 the Facebook group. You can also join our Patreon. You get all kinds 5 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,039 of fun stuff like you need to jump into the chat room and chat with 6 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:53,920 us, like a bunch of people are doing right now. Yeah, including 7 00:00:54,439 --> 00:01:00,840 Wolfie's new special lady friend. Oh yeah, okay, Brian says intro music 8 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,359 is great again. Good choice, Wolfee. Thanks. I was looking for 9 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,480 something very like Olympics feeling, but I couldn't find nothing. It's very epic 10 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:15,200 feeling. Yeah, So Brian once knows anybody ever called you Wolfster? No, 11 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:19,560 because nobody called it, actually calls me Wolfie except for people on this 12 00:01:19,599 --> 00:01:23,680 show. That's right. I'm spreading that nickname far and wide to a bunch 13 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:27,319 of people that will never meet you. But I think that calls you Wolfie 14 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,840 and Jason Jason calls you Wolfie. I've spread it to a few people. 15 00:01:30,879 --> 00:01:34,519 It's because of you. I know, I know, I'm taking credible and 16 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:40,519 Brian goddamn Polk. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I used to call you 17 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,599 Brian, but then I realized that's the only one doing it Alward. Peer 18 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:53,000 pressure, peer pressure. Uh this last season, oh well, thanks Stan, 19 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,400 you just insulted Wolfie. Wolfie was high on his own supply with that 20 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:00,920 Brian compliment, and then Stay brings them back down. Right. I thought 21 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,400 the music last time was okay. Uh, everybody else seemed to really like 22 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:12,639 it. So yeah, Ryan says, well, now you're now you're the 23 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,759 wolf's are for me? The wolf is evolving, right, Yeah. You 24 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:19,360 used to be freak wolf back and or a teen wolf right teen wolf back 25 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,360 back in high school, and then when you turn twenty you had to change 26 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,159 it to freak wolf. Yeah yeah, and now you're just Wolfie. Yeah. 27 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Cat says it's the perfect nickname. Yeah, sure, I agree. 28 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:37,280 That's why it's the only name I use. People can call me whatever they 29 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:45,560 want. Uh well, oh, Carlos is like big uncle sweet Tim. 30 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,919 Yeah. My nickname kept evolving and now it's in its final form, like 31 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,479 this giant nickname for I know, I kept I thought it would keep evolving, 32 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,840 but it seems like we just stuck with that. And that's fine. 33 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,280 I'll take it all right, Hey, Tim, Yeah, tell us about 34 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:05,159 this episode that I know you're a big fan of. Hey, you know 35 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:07,360 the episode on the Bat. I just don't like the cliffhangers. That's my 36 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,439 whole thing. And yes, I'm always looking for a reason to not do 37 00:03:09,479 --> 00:03:15,680 the podcast. So early this morning, when when it had not dropped yet 38 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:17,520 on Paramount Plus I was I was like, hey, guys, we're gonna 39 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,680 to cancel, and then it was up like a few minutes later. H 40 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:27,680 R says, what's old and grumpy Wolfy called Team Wolf and freak Wolf? 41 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Now it's just Wolfy because that means old and grumpy. Yeah, simple people 42 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,759 are thrown out. Carlos says, remember Crawdaddy, Tim, I don't remember 43 00:03:38,759 --> 00:03:42,599 that one specifically, but I remember it. It morphed a lot for a 44 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:46,159 few weeks or months, and then we settled into this one. I like 45 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,599 them. I like them all. Crawdaddy, Yeah, just threw out a 46 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:55,400 beware Wolf's Carlos says, I'll take your place if you don't want to do 47 00:03:55,439 --> 00:04:00,639 it. Tim deal, all right, him officially retired from the show. 48 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,680 Like right now, I'm gonna eat my edible and go to bed, So 49 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:09,719 Carlin call no, I'm kidding all right. This episode is episode five. 50 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:13,800 It's called Everybody Wants to Rule the World. Starts as every episode does, 51 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:17,040 with the players coming back into the house fresh off of the elimination. This 52 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,439 time it's Jody and Benja or ben Ha still not clear about that. Um. 53 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,240 They've just won their elimination, so everyone is pretending like they're excited for 54 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:30,759 them, but in their confessional they say that the game's getting boring. There 55 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,319 are the ones that are being targeted them and Kelly, Anne and Tristan, 56 00:04:34,079 --> 00:04:38,079 and that it's time for change, that we need some new people that are 57 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,480 being targeted here. Good news, guys. This episode starts off fresh out 58 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:48,759 the gate with a slow motion workout montage. Yeah to meet it for this 59 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,920 episode, yep. I was hoping i'd see some people on stationary bikes and 60 00:04:54,079 --> 00:05:00,680 throwing kettle balls, and I saw it all. Yeah enough to say about 61 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,120 that, I guess. Um. Zara mentions just sort of offhand that she 62 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,720 has dyslexia, uh, and then it never came back around. Are we 63 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:13,240 going to see this dyslexia thing come into play later this season or why else? 64 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,360 Why why else would they mention this won't come back? No? She 65 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:23,759 just needed something for this episode. Um, who knows? We don't know? 66 00:05:24,959 --> 00:05:30,920 I guess that's true. What'd you say, Zachy care about her? 67 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:34,600 M? I still didn't get that. You sound like a robot? So 68 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,519 did you get it, Wolfe or does it sound like a robot to you 69 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:41,800 two? I think you said they needed something to put on for people to 70 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,240 care about her. Oh, I see, it is true that we don't 71 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,600 have much to care about her. I'm not sure if dyslexia makes me care 72 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:53,079 about her anymore, But there you go. We get Grant and Emily. 73 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:56,240 They're on the Austie team. If you're like me and have a hard time 74 00:05:56,439 --> 00:06:00,560 remembering who's on what team, they're talking about how they've sort of we've got 75 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,199 set up a sort of a semi alliance with the USA team. This episode 76 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,800 was kind of revealing about like all of the sort of politics on the back 77 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:12,560 end and alliances with who and teams partnering up with teams. What do you 78 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,199 guys think about this? Generally? Do you like all this talk? Um? 79 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:21,199 I would if it actually sort of amounted to anything. It seems like 80 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:28,079 all these alliances that we'll find out too throughout this episode that it's just sort 81 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,160 of like, oh, everybody's got an alliance, now nobody has an alliance. 82 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Yeah, well, it seems like it has been a big impact on 83 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:38,720 this episode, right, because it's it ties up the nomination process. Spoilers 84 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,680 Stanzas tell Zach to pause his porn downloading during the show. You know what, 85 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,959 Zach, you might maybe we should turn off our video Wolfe. That 86 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:57,360 might improves X situations. I don't know, you think it would? All 87 00:06:57,439 --> 00:07:00,480 right? Well, anyway, so the Grant and Emily, they're the Aussie's, 88 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:05,959 they're uh, they're talking about like just sort of strategy and everything, 89 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:14,160 and Kiki walks by and almost immediately like the tone changes and Grant calls her 90 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,439 an airhead and he's really worried about Keki. He says that she can get 91 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:23,000 pulled in other directions and influenced and sometimes carry on like a pork chop? 92 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:30,800 Wolfie, can Keiki carry on like a pork chop? I don't what, 93 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:39,680 Zach completely miss did you miss this part? I guess she definitely can carry 94 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,959 on like a pot, like a pork chop. Yeah, Wolfe had like 95 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:46,759 the little caption underneath it and everything it like sorry said it as you're saying 96 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:51,279 it means act foolishly. It's like an Aussie slang term or something. But 97 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:57,680 I really wasn't paying attention. Yeah, clearly, Uh, well, Kiki 98 00:07:57,839 --> 00:08:01,319 is paying attention. How about that segue. She's thinks that if she's not 99 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,360 part of these strategy talks, that they're actually plotting against her in these strategy 100 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:09,600 talks. Does she have a point? Guys? Are they strategizing against Kiki? 101 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:16,319 I don't think they are at this very moment, but I know I 102 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,720 do think kind of like Durrell told her later, like down the line they 103 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,519 might be, but right now they're good. I think. Yeah, I 104 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:30,720 think she's at the bottom of the Australian Alliance, but she's still part of 105 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,720 it just because she's from Australia. But it seems super clear that she's at 106 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:37,480 the bottom. It does seem like if a push comes to the shop, 107 00:08:37,639 --> 00:08:41,159 she's going to be the one that they're all going to turn on. Yeah, 108 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,639 And it seems like this is the episode where the people at the bottom 109 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:48,960 are sort of figuring it out. So Kiki, Jody, Kelly, Anne, 110 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,519 they're sort of they all know that they're at the bottom and that they're 111 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:56,320 at risking. So maybe they can get further if they can have pulled together, 112 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,039 all right, and so we get the first of many of these political 113 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:07,320 talks. We get West talking to Jordan because they both know that right now 114 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:11,919 they're throwing in sort of the easy players. If the strategy changes and they 115 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:15,759 start focusing on these bigger name players, they're at risk. So they need 116 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:18,919 to figure out how to keep the heat off of them. West thinks the 117 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,960 best way to do that is to come up with a third person to throw 118 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,720 in. Just in case Jody and Benja or Kelly and and Tristan either win 119 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:31,240 or lose this elimination. They need to have a third name sort of prepared 120 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,320 to say, otherwise everybody's gonna starts scrambling and whatever. This seems like a 121 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,799 good plan, right, Zach, What do you think? I think? 122 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,919 So, you know, I think you always got prepare for any inevitability. 123 00:09:45,039 --> 00:09:50,120 So you know, if you're only thinking like two names, anything can happen 124 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:54,519 that takes one of the occasion and then you're you're just scrambling and the mistakes 125 00:09:54,519 --> 00:10:01,120 could be made. Right. Uh yeah, Well that kind of sums up 126 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:03,720 West's strategy. He's just trying to keep big names off of people's lips, 127 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:07,600 and that does not go well for him this episode. No, it does 128 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:15,480 not. Next scene we get Bananas. He's talking to Danny and Sarah. 129 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:20,200 It seems like he's trying to joker oh jokers here. Finally, it seems 130 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,600 like Danny and Sarah are openly sort of picking on the legends, openly sort 131 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:28,399 of targeting the legends, And this is Banana's attempt to sort of smooth things 132 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,039 out and just sort of let them know, like, hey, we have 133 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,240 personal connections in this house, but you know we're partners and we won't stab 134 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,799 you in the back all the stuff. Well, if how how impactful is 135 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,279 this talk from Bananas, would you say? I don't know. Banana is 136 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,159 always talking out of his ass just to save himself, so this is just 137 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,559 more of the same. Sure, yeah, it seems that way to me 138 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,879 too, Zachie Bananas. Do you have a different takeaway? Is this awesome 139 00:10:56,919 --> 00:11:01,039 strategy? No? I know, I I think you know Bananas is right, 140 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,440 Like, as long as you believe that these will be your partners or 141 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,519 your team all the way down to the end. If you think there's a 142 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,879 switch up where it might go to like, you know, two teams of 143 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:16,879 like eight or becomes an individual game, then it's dumb to just stick with 144 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:18,320 your team. But if this is Ryde or died to the end like this, 145 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,200 I think Bananas has a good point of just trust us. We'll get 146 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,519 you to the end and then fight it out. Yeah, but you know, 147 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:28,000 like what, like what Danny is saying, it doesn't matter if you 148 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,440 get to the end. You want to win this thing, and if you're 149 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,200 going against Bananas and Jordan, you have a lot less of a chance to 150 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,039 win. Then if you're going against Tristan and Troy, I don't know, 151 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:45,159 I'm just throwing out random names. You're just like, I'm sure these people 152 00:11:45,159 --> 00:11:46,360 are on the show. I don't know they are. Tristan and Troy are 153 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,879 on the show. I'm just I just don't know how well they compete against 154 00:11:48,919 --> 00:11:52,080 like a Jordan and Bananas. But you know, I still think you should 155 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,960 go and get somebody new, newer, and so yeah, I would want 156 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Jordan out of the house too, Like that seems obvious to me and Bananas 157 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,399 and so yeah, Banana's it's it's self preservation. He may have a point, 158 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:05,559 but it's clearly self preservation, and I don't think it sways Danny and 159 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,799 Sarah for one millisecond here to the point, like, I don't even think 160 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:13,120 you should have mentioned it. I think it makes him look stupid trying to 161 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:16,200 talk him out of it. Yeah, Danny seems like he has his own 162 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:22,159 strategy that he's working on. You should probably just not tell other people anything. 163 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:26,080 I think, Yes, I do think that's right. Yeah, he 164 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:30,240 clearly has his own strategy. The Legends will never go along with it because 165 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:33,879 they are, you know, they are the strategy to kick out the Legends. 166 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,919 So if this is the plan, Danny and Sarah are sort of on 167 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:43,360 their own. They've got to get more support from non Legend people. Speaking 168 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,759 of Danny and Sarah, yeah, this is when they have their conversation where 169 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:48,720 they're just openly saying, yeah, we need to get the Legends out of 170 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,320 here. We need to get like the really strong players West Jordan and Bananas 171 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:58,879 seem to be who they're mainly talking about here. All right, we get 172 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:03,279 over to Casey and Justine. They're talking about game stuff. I guess a 173 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,879 fucking Nannie. Well, all right, I'm normally I'm not talking about fucking 174 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,519 Nannie, but you know, if we're talking about Nannie, So Wifie, 175 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,519 I'm normally on your side about this. I hate relationship talk. I will 176 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:16,799 I'm about to hate the Jordan and Tory stuff a little bit later in this 177 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,120 episode. I do not care about Casey and Nannie. I think they are 178 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:26,919 boring. Um but I like Casey this season for the first time ever, 179 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:31,639 I think, yeah, I don't. I either don't know who she is 180 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:33,879 or I don't like her, And this time it's like, Okay, she's 181 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:37,559 cool, she seems she seems cool. Maybe maybe I just don't like her 182 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:43,480 with Nannie. Maybe that's my deal. Yeah, yeah, it is possible. 183 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,679 So y'all is the first time she's not there. I do I hate 184 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:54,720 relationships. You're right when her Bailey got a big shotting match that was kind 185 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,720 of fun. Oh yeah that was fun. Yeah I like that. Um 186 00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:03,519 well, Casey does say that she and Nanny are talking about starting a family 187 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:09,879 and that that's expensive, so they need to win. Even though Casey's won 188 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:13,240 several times, it seems like Casey should have plenty of money. She won 189 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,080 Big Brother, she's won on the Challenge. Yeah, it seems like she 190 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,120 should be fine in my opinion, But you know, what are you gonna 191 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:26,519 do. This is when Justine tells Casey that Ben Joker says, calling my 192 00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:33,320 shot, Johnny's gonna bending Casey's sperm donor. Oh god, that's exactly what 193 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:39,639 we need on this show for sure. I love it. Um. Justine 194 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:43,679 talks about how Ben is sort of a flip floppy guy. He flip flopped 195 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:50,960 on Survivor, he flip flopped on Challenge USA. Zach as the Survivor fan 196 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:54,440 in this in this podcast, has been a big flip flopper. Did he 197 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,960 do that frequently on Survivor? Is this part of his game? No? 198 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:03,320 I think Survivor he is actually pretty loyal. I mean his first season, 199 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,080 his entire tribe like flipped on him because they saw he was too big of 200 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,240 a threat to win. So his alliance wanted to get him out early and 201 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,159 he just had to win his way to the end. And the second time 202 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,960 he played, he literally stuck by Sarah the entire time. In the final 203 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,200 five, he voluntarily quit the game so she could go forward and try to 204 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,360 win. Yeah, it is, And it's weird that him and Sarah are 205 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:31,399 sort of at odds this season because yeah, he made a big sacrifice for 206 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,279 her. You'd think that she would want to pay him back for that or 207 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:35,559 something, you know, owe him something. I guess that's what I mean 208 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:41,360 to say, you would think so, Yeah, Joker says they almost all 209 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,240 flip flop on Survivor. Yeah, flip flopping is part of Survivor. It 210 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:52,080 sort of is expected. I don't think he had a big reputation for being 211 00:15:52,080 --> 00:16:00,080 a constant flip flop on Survivor, but he certainly wasn't challenge USA. So 212 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,399 we get Bananas and Ben talking. They're sort of like bonding over similar styles 213 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:08,840 of games and how they both have a bad reputation, but they both say 214 00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:14,720 it's unearned. We'll feed do are they're bad reputations unearned? What do you 215 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,639 think? Who are you talking about? Bananas and Ben? Oh? Ben, 216 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:22,919 I don't know. I've only seen him on one season's Survivor. Bananas 217 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,480 has definitely earned his bad reputation, even without the Sarah stuff. Just we 218 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:32,720 watched the Island and him saying if I had to listen to him call somebody 219 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:37,799 a dumb bitch one more time, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he definitely I 220 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:42,480 think Bananas has earned his bad reputation. Yeah, and uh, Ben has 221 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,720 two and he's about to earn it some more in this uh this year episode. 222 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:49,720 Yeah, this episode isn't good for Ben. No. All right, 223 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:57,840 So that's it, guys. We are onto the challenge. This challenge is 224 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,600 called Flying Around Round. You guys have all seen the episode. I don't 225 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,400 need to talk about it. You guys know how this thing works. It's 226 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,160 kind of a dumb challenge. Really, Why do you think it was dumb? 227 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:11,079 I don't know. I feel like it sounds good on paper, but 228 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,559 in execution, I was just like, oh, this is this is this 229 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,440 is not really that exciting, just going around as a circle on a crane 230 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:22,400 hoping to catch a ring now and again and throw it into the box. 231 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:29,640 Yeah, Zach, was that your impression to hear too? Yeah? I 232 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,920 thought it seemed exciting at first, but then like after the first round, 233 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:33,960 when they like started showing the secon round, I was like, okay, 234 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,559 I'm done with this, Like, can we just fast forward to the end. 235 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,599 That's kind of where I was at too. Yeah. I thought the 236 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,400 first part was really cool. I see him swing it around up there and 237 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:47,799 you know, figure out the timing to catch the rings, and after watching 238 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:48,960 twelve pairs of them, it's like, all right, Yeah, I'm done. 239 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,559 I don't need to keep watching this. Lots of people in the chart 240 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,160 room though, so they loved it, Yeah, a little bit. Best 241 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,680 part what's the best part of the challenge him, Oh well, well let's 242 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,119 get into that. So before they actually swing around on the cranes, they 243 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:11,960 have to drink a smoothie, their new thing on the challenge. I don't 244 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,119 understand it, but they don't tell us what these gross things are. I 245 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,079 don't understand why they don't tell us what's in these things. We gotta hint 246 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,160 this time, somebody, I think Grant maybe says that it's garlic and chili, 247 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,440 so we have some sort of idea of what's in there, but I 248 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,640 don't know. It was weird. So basically, you've got two minutes to 249 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,400 drink these shakes. You gotta drink them all. You cannot throw up. 250 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,000 If you can't drink them, or if you throw up, there's penalties. 251 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,359 Although he doesn't tell you what they are up front, and I guess that's 252 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:51,359 the whole thing with us. I know, I'm I like these eating challenges. 253 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:53,279 Turns out I don't like them if you can't puke. I like the 254 00:18:53,279 --> 00:18:59,000 puking exclusively no puking. I'm out, I don't want any of this, 255 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,160 Scott says, yeah. Scott says it would have been better if they were 256 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,599 all throwing up the stuff they drank while they were spinning around. Yes, 257 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:14,759 it would have splattering their partners with vomit, dark black vomit from that shake. 258 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:18,200 Yeah, that'd be awesome. Now do you think if they had puked 259 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,440 during the spinning part, do they still get the penalty or like once TJ 260 00:19:21,599 --> 00:19:26,480 moves them to that part as the no puking roll over with. I don't 261 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,279 know, but we need to talk about these penalties because they are they are 262 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,839 bullshit. No. The penalty basically is, if you don't drink your drink, 263 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:38,839 five point penalty, if you throw up your drink two point penalty. 264 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,480 So far, I'm on board. Like those penalties make sense to me. 265 00:19:44,039 --> 00:19:49,759 Yes, but Amber couldn't drink her drink. She kept throwing it up and 266 00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:56,079 so she also didn't finish it. So they gave Amber a seven point penalty. 267 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,920 Uh yeah, and west and Weston's are only at a five point penalty. 268 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,319 In what world does this make any fucking sense at all? I don't 269 00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:07,839 know. I'm with you. I was on board until that happened. I 270 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,400 figure, yeah, if you don't finish, that should overrule the two minute 271 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,039 penalty totally. Yeah, I think Amber should have gotten a two point penalty 272 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:18,720 for throwing it up because she drank it looked like about half of it, 273 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:23,119 maybe maybe a little more, but she gave it her best shot and for 274 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,319 her to get more of a penalty than Wesson's are who just put their their 275 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,559 glasses down? That's like a fuck that? What is that? Yeah? 276 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,039 That's Scott. Scott and Carlin are all pointing out. In the chat room. 277 00:20:34,839 --> 00:20:38,279 Amber does drop that she's been sick for a couple of weeks. Yep. 278 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,079 Maybe maybe it's her morning sign that's kicking in. Yeah, yeah, 279 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:52,240 a sense of taste is probably overwhelming. Yeah, it's bizarre. How I 280 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,200 mean, like, we know Amber's pregnant. Now we don't know if she's 281 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,400 pregnant at this point. I guess they'll probably find that out. But if 282 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,799 she is pregnant, how many fucking times are we going to cast pregnant people 283 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:10,319 on this show. It's unbelievable to me. You can get pregnancy tests of 284 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,160 the Dollar store. They should have every single female have to pass a pregnancy 285 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,240 test to get into the house. They just should have to do that. 286 00:21:17,559 --> 00:21:21,160 Why are they not doing that? It seems like they should, Like, 287 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,839 before they go on the challenge, you have to for like a physical, 288 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,720 you have to make sure you take a pregnancy tests. Yeah, if they're 289 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,599 not doing that, that's really stupid and is a huge liability. They are 290 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,039 clearly not doing that because it happens all the time that people are taken out 291 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:41,079 of the game for being pregnant. I don't know, it's really unbelievable to 292 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,000 me. But all right, So back to this challenge thing. Wessons are 293 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,880 there in the first round and they just basically say, no, we're not 294 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,079 going to drink this drink. We're just gonna take the penalty. We're going 295 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,960 to assume that we'll make it up by throwing the rings, and that's it. 296 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,880 They don't even try, so we know how this works out. It 297 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,200 does not go well for them. But is this a bad strategy just sort 298 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,799 of like on its face, or is there is there something here that could 299 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:12,880 possibly make sense. I think in the moment, I thought it could be 300 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,839 a smart choice. You know, now, having seen the challenge play out, 301 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,000 I think it's dumb. But like, if you have confidence that you 302 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:23,400 can land a ton of rings. I mean, we saw Amber come back, 303 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,599 you know, from a seven point deficit, so it's definitely possible. 304 00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:32,960 I just think west overestimated his ability to throw it in and his partner's ability 305 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,720 to throw it to him. Yeah, I think so too. We've seen 306 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:41,319 West do this, you know, he did it famously on his Fresh Meat 307 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:47,359 season. They didn't try to do the little obstacle courses things during the I 308 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,480 forgot they call those fucking not the eliminations, but whatever they call the eliminations 309 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:56,480 that season. Ryan says, with as often as the women are getting boned 310 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,720 while on the show, they should be testing them weekly and and all of 311 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:04,920 them for STDs. That's right. Uh yeah, Joker says, West was 312 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,440 simply being West. I think that sums it up. West does this shit 313 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,599 all the time. He will take a penalty and assume he can make it 314 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,799 up, and sometimes he does. And when he makes it up he looks 315 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:15,720 like a genius, and when he doesn't, like tonight, he looks like 316 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:22,519 a fucking idiot. Um. But so they end up taking five point penalties 317 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,480 only getting two rings in, so their total is actually negative three points. 318 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,319 Yeah, um, all right, and really for the rest of the the 319 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:41,000 this challenge, I don't know, nothing ends up mattering. No now Amber 320 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:45,359 and who the fuck is her partner? Try? Remember they had naked of 321 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,000 seven? Yeah well yeah, like Zach said, they were able to come 322 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,599 back. So that so West's score was still really shitty because he sucked. 323 00:23:53,799 --> 00:24:02,240 Yep. Yeah it was Johnny Bananas. He did pretty well well, he 324 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:06,880 didn't do good enough to win. That's right, Zach, you set yourself 325 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,480 up for that, that's right. I think Bananas was second place, but 326 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,559 Keiki and Durrell won it. Yes, so okay, so that's it for 327 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:19,599 the challenge. We're back at the house. We get Bananas, Casey and 328 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:26,279 Tory. They're all talking strategy and from their perspective, they think it's smart 329 00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:32,279 to nominate two Aussie teams that would be john A and Grants and Yes and 330 00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:38,079 Emily to break up the Australian Alliance. Good move, bad move? What 331 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,880 do you guys think? I see their point. They're like, well, 332 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,440 a really good player is in, that was a good time to send another 333 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,359 really good player in so we can get at least one good player out. 334 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,240 Yep, so makes sense completely. I mean I thought it was a bad 335 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:56,319 move because I agree like if you have a good player and throwing another good 336 00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:59,640 player, But for everyone except Tori, it seemed to make sense to throw 337 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:06,440 in Jordan and keep the US, like the Australia thing strong. Yeah, 338 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,240 I wonder, I mean it seems like Bananas kind of once Jordan there two, 339 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:12,680 I would have thought more people would be targeted Jordan. I thought like 340 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,119 sort of, Tory would be the only one in the side. Why is 341 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,839 Jordan not being targeted by the other big players like Wes and Bananas. I 342 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:25,200 mean, I think it's kind we've seen them talk about like, you know, 343 00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:27,000 once one of us gets targeted, it opens a floodgate for the rest 344 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,039 of us to get targeted. But also feel like it's you know, right 345 00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:36,960 now, you know, like the only loyalty US has is Australia. So 346 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,519 if you burn that, I feel like you could easily find yourself with US 347 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,960 versus the other three teams. Yeah, but if the other teams are weakened, 348 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,680 that's okay, right, I mean, if the US still has all 349 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,640 four and the other teams don't, I guess it depends on who wins the 350 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,759 challenge. You know, we've seen john days one like two out of the 351 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,519 you know, two challenges in the road to start the thing out. So 352 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:03,759 like, we know she can win, and if you piss off the off 353 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:07,599 season, then she wins next week. Then you have two Americans in there, 354 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,200 right, Yeah, as long as the House can get their act together 355 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:18,920 and nominate the Americans, right, which is you know who knows that's true? 356 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,319 Yeah? All right, so does Johnny's on the American team, So 357 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:29,319 fucking of course nobody wants to nominate anybody from American team. Some stupid all 358 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,920 right, so we get Danny. He's talking to Ben and this is where 359 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,519 Danny's really kind of he kind of throws out his whole strategy. He says 360 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:41,240 that he wants to do the ass's, but he wants it to be Jordan 361 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:47,680 and Kaz going in. And they think that if they volunteer Grant and john 362 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,000 A that then there will be no choice for Keiki and Durrell. They will 363 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:55,200 have to throw in Jordan and Kaz. I'm not gonna pretend like I know 364 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,680 all the dynamics. I didn't watch any of these seasons, But does that 365 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,799 make sense to you guys this whole thing. Yeah, because Jordan and kaz 366 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:06,920 are UK not Australia. Yeah, oh okay then that yes, that clicks 367 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:11,039 man. These accents are similar to Do'm American like me? And their flags 368 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:15,920 are similar too. Good Lord, I know I'm stupid. What can I 369 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,240 say now that you've even you've even been to the UK? Tim, Come 370 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:23,640 on, I sure have and I that's but yeah, I don't know anything, 371 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:27,920 all right. This is where Danny Ryan wants to know. If we 372 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,279 think Jordan West Bananas made a pact that they wanted to run a final against 373 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:37,480 each other, maybe that could make sense why they're all sort of looking out 374 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,240 for each other, sort of made the best man win type of situation. 375 00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:42,480 Get three of the best players ever play the game running the same final. 376 00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:45,799 I think we could see that. But I also think, you know, 377 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,839 even if they'll make that specific tact, you know, there's just that long 378 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,400 running history of you know, you kind of look out for the ogs and 379 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,559 you know, protect each other. Yeah, I mean I get that, 380 00:27:56,559 --> 00:28:00,519 but when somebody is such a dominant player, like I mean, like any 381 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,559 of them, you would think at some point you've got to target each other 382 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,880 if you want to actually win the game instead of winning the next game. 383 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,920 You know, it just seems like they're always looking at the next game instead 384 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:14,440 of this game. But this is where Danny tells Ben that really the only 385 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,920 way this plan can go wrong then that the wrong plan being that Jordan avoids 386 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,799 elimination, is that if Ben and Casey flipflop, that's legit the only way 387 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:27,759 that this can that this cannot work, which sort of sets up the Ben 388 00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:34,319 betrayal Later this episode, Now we get a conversation between Jodey and Kelly, 389 00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:37,720 and they're just talking about being at the bottom. They're sort of commiserating about 390 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:42,440 being at the bottom and sort of starting some talks it seems like about maybe 391 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,720 working together. What do you guys think. Do they have a path to 392 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:51,599 work together, pull in a couple more teams, put something together here, 393 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,000 or are they really just sort of odd men out with nowhere to go. 394 00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:03,920 I don't really know. So many new people I can't sort of manage to 395 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,240 figure out, like, oh, they could pull these people, and they 396 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,880 can pull these people in, like I don't know, Yeah, attract the 397 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,400 alliances. Yeah. I feel like down the road there's a chance for all 398 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,240 the like underdogs to come together. But I feel like for right now, 399 00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:22,480 it's really just there's two sides, and they're gonna be on the bottom of 400 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:26,880 both sides, So it's which one do they feel they can like advance further 401 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,920 up the totem pole with. Yeah, that's pretty well exactly what Jody says 402 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160 in one of her confessionals. She's just like, I'm at the bottom. 403 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,279 I know it. I can join these other alliances and stuff, but I'm 404 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:41,119 always going to be at the bottom. So it seems like her goal is 405 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,920 to sort of figure out where she can be more at the top or more 406 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,599 sort of in the middle of a pack somewhere. But I think for now, 407 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,559 yeah, I think Your Rights Act. She just has to I mean, 408 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:49,480 both of them, they just have to write it out. They just 409 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,880 have to hope to get lucky and hope to maybe win one. I hope 410 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,240 things can sort of shift around on their own. I don't think they can 411 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:02,480 pull much together here. All right with that, guys, we are onto 412 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:11,680 the vote. So the votes are total clusterfuck. Um starts off super awkward. 413 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,559 Nobody wants to talk. It's really uncomfortable. UM, I don't know, 414 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,240 do we need to go through number my number and say who voted for 415 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:25,400 who? I'm gonna say no, No, we don't No, I don't 416 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,160 know, Tim. Are you kind of anxious about it? Am I anxious 417 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,920 about it? Yeah? Do you know what to help with your anxiety? 418 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,400 Oh? Yes, I am very anxious about it. What can I do 419 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,480 to help me get over? You should get some pure Spectrum CBD oil. 420 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,480 What will that do? That'll help lower your anxiety? 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That will help 430 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:32,559 with my anxiety over this vote, this cluster fuck of a vote. Go 431 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,359 for it. Okay, so the vote doesn't really matter. Let's just be 432 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,240 relnest about this. The only part that matters is at the very end, 433 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:47,519 the last people to vote are Tory and Danny. Paramount plus did not do 434 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,960 us the pleasure of tallying these votes for us, so we have no idea 435 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,359 who got how many votes, but I did the honor of going through and 436 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,240 counting for us. At the end of the day, Grant and John A 437 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,720 got seven votes, so they are definitely going in. But Jordan and Kaz 438 00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:08,279 got four as well as Emily, and yes, they also have four at 439 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:14,160 this point, and so there is a tie and then plus John A and 440 00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:20,920 Grant. And so this is when Tory um just says to Danny, like, 441 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880 here's the deal. It's a tie, but it doesn't have to be. 442 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,680 If you throw in Emily and Yes, then they will go in with 443 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:30,640 Grant and John A. But if you don't, then it's gonna be a 444 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,119 tie. And who knows what's going to happen with the tie, Um Wolfie. 445 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,200 Does she have a point or is this just trying to save Jordan? 446 00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:43,759 Um? I mean it could be both, because they really don't know what 447 00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:45,640 happens when there's a tie, and everybody knows you don't want to tie on 448 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,160 the challenge. Um, so I mean, she had does have a point, 449 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,039 but you know, it does save Jordan, it does tie. I 450 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:01,960 do think it most Dan. You think it's mostly for Jordan. I do. 451 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,480 Yeah, I kind of do too, because I think if it wasn't 452 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:14,920 Jordan, I don't think Tory would care because Jordan's not a USA member. 453 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:21,680 It's really it's it's just because it's Jordan. Tory is a USA member. 454 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:28,359 Yeah, but Jordan's not. Oh gotcha, Yeah you said Tory. I 455 00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,039 got confused. Oh sorry, I said they don't thing. Then, yeah, 456 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:32,680 Jordan's not. So it's I mean, they're not really in the same 457 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,920 alliance. I know they have each other's back, but he's not part of 458 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,480 the USA alliance, so he's sort of on the outside. So yeah, 459 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,599 it seems like she's doing this to say Jordan, which is fine, but 460 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,680 then Danny just sort of calls it as it is. Yeah. I did 461 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,440 like Jordan's speaking up. It's like, hey, you want to play the 462 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,559 challenge, to play the fucking child. Yeah, he's got a point, 463 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,640 so um yeah, So Danny just ties it up. He keeps it tied. 464 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,319 He's not going to move an inch, and that's it, guys. 465 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:07,960 It's a stalemate. Danny's pissed at Ben because Ben could have made this workout 466 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:10,639 and you know how it was supposed to, but Ben flip flopped. It 467 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,159 flashes back to a conversation where Ben clearly made Danny a promise he didn't keep. 468 00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,960 Um, what do you guys think about this? This seems like it 469 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,280 exposes Ben. What do you guys think it completely exposes Ben? These are 470 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,119 going to be become a pretty prime target now. Yeah, for sure. 471 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480 It seems like everybody's gonna start looking at him now for sure. Yeah, 472 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:35,400 even people that like, I mean, I guess if they're not in his 473 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,079 alliance, he you know, they're kind of done the for him anyway. 474 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:42,239 But literally everybody's like, oh well you can't trust them. He completely flopped 475 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,159 on everybody. Yeah, okay, yeah, And we actually to prove that 476 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,119 point, we'll be like, we have a lot of people saying that they're 477 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,119 going to target Ben every time now, right, Grant and Amber and all 478 00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,599 these people are just saying, like, fuck Ben, this is not the 479 00:34:54,639 --> 00:35:00,559 way that we are supposed to be playing this game. So we're back with 480 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:07,039 Durrell and Kiki and Wes and Zara. They're back in that room and the 481 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:12,760 computer screen just flashes stalemate. The crew could not reach a decision on who 482 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,199 to throw in, prompting many, many discussions on what the fuck could possibly 483 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,039 happen at elimination. Nobody really knows, and everybody is speculating on it and 484 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:27,039 trying to come up with other plans on how to how to combat this, 485 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,960 And so that's pretty well the rest of the episode. We have Sarah and 486 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,440 Emily. They're kind of making fun of Tory with this fake proposal thing and 487 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:44,440 saying that you know you didn't like this, why not? Oh fuck Sarah. 488 00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:45,199 I know you don't like Sarah. But does she have a little bit 489 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:49,199 of a point here? Oh what does that have to do with anything? 490 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,320 Who cares? I think I think she makes a good argument. I think 491 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:59,840 the way they went about haunting it and making fun of it was unnecessary. 492 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,519 Yeah, maybe it seemed a little Caddy and petty, I guess the way 493 00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:05,199 they the way they were sort of making fun of it. But I think 494 00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:08,360 she I think they have a point that this alliance between Tory and Jordan is 495 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,159 very weird because they are not dating, they are not fiances. They are 496 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,519 x's and yet still each other's number one. So the whole situation is weird. 497 00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:22,679 We've talked about that on this Sarah's just jealous because I'm sure her exes 498 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,000 were like, thank fucking Christ, I'm I'm an exevers, not currently with 499 00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:34,320 her. You and you're Sarah hatred. I don't get it, um, 500 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,199 all right, So we get Sarah. She says that Ben has pissed off 501 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:45,039 the Ausse's and USA because Ben is sort of siding with the Legends now but 502 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:51,199 in the process has made himself a target of multiple alliances. H Wolfie, 503 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,039 do you agree with Sarah? Oh? Fuck Sarah, Zach do you agree 504 00:36:55,079 --> 00:37:00,320 Sarah? I do agree with Sarah. Benn is bennets screwed. Well, 505 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,960 don't ever make her right. Ben is screwed. And in this next conversation, 506 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,000 we have Ben and Casey talking, and you can tell Casey's sort of 507 00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:13,400 trying to say, like, Ben, what the fuck were you thinking? 508 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,119 And Ben just sort of says, well, I know I promised that I 509 00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:19,800 would vote with USA, but I changed my mind. I'm just sick of 510 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,360 it, that's all I said. I'm just sick of it. Um. 511 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:29,840 Really weird sort of way to deal with this situation. What could he have 512 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,320 done? Better, Zach, What's what's his move here? What could Ben 513 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:38,639 have done to smooth things over? Um? To smooth it over? Once 514 00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:45,000 it's done, I don't know. I play dumb and be like I misunderstood 515 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:51,440 the plan. Pull pull a Kyle right like, Oh, I didn't know. 516 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,760 Yeah, I don't think he has any course of action. He's completely 517 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,599 shown his cards and made himself to be an idiot in this game. So 518 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,599 yeah, I think that sums it up. Yep um. And you can 519 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,599 tell Casey. This is where Casey sort of shows her hand politically. She 520 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,440 also has no fucking clue what to do here. You'd think she would, 521 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,960 She's been around the block, she's a fucking champ on the show. Um, 522 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,920 but you can tell she's just sort of lost. She doesn't know what 523 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,320 to do. So in her confessional, she just sort of says like, 524 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,199 well, we're just gonna play it by ear and do the best we can 525 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,559 and hope for the best. So not much of a strategy, but maybe 526 00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:38,199 the best that they can do at this point in the game. I'll assume 527 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:45,440 that that's a confirmative affirmative yeah, and then yeah, Grant and Emily, 528 00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:49,840 they say that Ben and Casey will be their target every single time. Um. 529 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:57,960 Yeah, kikiS even okay with um turning against Australia. Alliances are just 530 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,559 crumbling in at the end of this vote. Yeah, everything's fallen apart, 531 00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:05,880 Like it seems like nobody's agreeing with anybody who's supposed to be on the same 532 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,519 team. Yeah, it's kind of great, actually, I kind of like 533 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:16,119 it. It's a little a little chaos. Ryan says, uh, Ben 534 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,360 is, Ben is in with the Vets and has arguably the best woman in 535 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,239 the house. They're fine. Uh, And then he says they voted with 536 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:29,880 Johnny Jordan and that alliance. How is that bad? Bill says, I 537 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,039 don't think the country shit matters at all. Yeah, it's bad because he 538 00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,599 lied. Um, I think that's kind of where it comes from. He 539 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:42,079 showed that he can't be trusted to keep his words, So that's that's why 540 00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:45,480 it's bad. Yeah, I think Ben should should have been able to go 541 00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:49,000 with the legends. It's just that he made too many promises with other people 542 00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:54,239 and and that's it. I can't promise everything to everyone. Yep. Yeah, 543 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,239 he just kind of look at the two sides and like the kind of 544 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,360 the pecking order feel like, um bend a lot lower on the legend side 545 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,039 than he would have been if he stayed with like Sarah and Danny and them. 546 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:10,800 Yeah, I agree with that too for sure. A hard guys. 547 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:21,679 With that, we're into elimination. Yes, TJ comes out where the suit? 548 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,800 Would you guys stay of the suit? He's a Hall of Famer now, 549 00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:30,400 yes, yeah, he's got dressed apart, he's looking sharp. He 550 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,079 brings out West and Zara. But then he says, since you have failed 551 00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:39,119 to use your democratic process, that the stalemate has to be solved another way. 552 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:46,480 Wolfie, how does how is the stalemate solved this time around? Um? 553 00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:52,480 Well, they're gonna make Durrell and Kiki choose, Yeah, just out 554 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,119 of anybody, which anybody which is which is not not what Durrell wanted. 555 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,880 He's not very happy with this choice because that means he's got to piss somebody 556 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,119 off and they might come back. Yeah. On that episode that he's talking 557 00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:07,840 about playing in the background and laying low for a little while doesn't get much 558 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,039 more out in the open than this. Yeah, what do we feel? 559 00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:15,920 Do we feel Durell's gonna try to make a good like two good teams go 560 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,400 against each other, so one of them leaves or is he just gonna be 561 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:23,000 like smaller team so that other people will back me up and not be mad 562 00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:27,559 at me. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm worried about, that he 563 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:34,280 might pick like Kelly and and Tristan or a Jody and who's Jody's partner Ben? 564 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,599 Huh Ben? Yeah, because it's it's sort of his like uncontroversial and 565 00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:43,599 they've been in and he doesn't make any additional enemies, and I kind of 566 00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,639 hope he doesn't play it safe. I kind of hope he goes big. 567 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,079 I was gonna say before you brought that, that's exactly what I think he's 568 00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:53,000 gonna do. Is I think he's get throwing the last Argentinian team and just 569 00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:57,840 be like, hey, no blood on my hands. Yeah. I wouldn't 570 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000 be too surprised, and that's unfortunate. I want to see Jody, but 571 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:07,079 what can you do? What do you sorry? It is possible that Jody 572 00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:12,639 and Benja could beat Less, So yeah, depending on the game. For 573 00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:15,239 sure. Jody's a really strong player, um and Benja looks strong too. 574 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:22,199 We just haven't I guess I haven't seen too much from him. How would 575 00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:24,159 you what do you guys think about how this stalemate is solved though? Is 576 00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:27,280 this like the good way to do it? What do you think will be? 577 00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:30,159 Oh? No, I was hoping that Lesson Zara got to pick. 578 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,880 I feel like that would have been a better, better punishment for people not 579 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,880 picking, because now people know in the vote, oh, we can just 580 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,079 stalemate it and whoever won has to pick, right. That seems like an 581 00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:47,480 easy out for the rest of the house. Yeah. I hadn't thought about 582 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,159 it and that in terms of future stalemates. But that's a really good point, 583 00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:54,639 Zach, What do you think. I didn't mind the way they broke 584 00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:57,920 it. I just didn't like the fact that we have had ended before we 585 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:04,679 saw who they picked, but fine with actual solution. So what I think 586 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,400 they should have done? I think West and Zara should have nominated two teams 587 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,320 that they wanted to see, and then Durrell and Kiki would have had to 588 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:19,679 pick from those two. Wouldn't that make more sense? That had been fun 589 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,239 too, I would like that, Yeah, yeah, because otherwise it feels 590 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:29,639 almost like a punishment for Durrell and Kiki to have to pick a team just 591 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:36,239 singularly out of the air. That doesn't seem like a great advantage, but 592 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,199 you can't let West and Zara just pick it, picks an opponent, because 593 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:44,679 then Durrell and Kiki have no power after winning a daily. So I don't 594 00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:49,920 know, but I think that's a suitable punishment for the entire house because nobody 595 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,719 could decide on who just throw in. Yeah, And I do think it's 596 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,119 actually a benefit to Durrell because I mean, we can't saw it two major 597 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,039 sides draw like a line in the stand this week, and he was gonna 598 00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,079 have to declare himself with the one side or the other. Now he can 599 00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,760 just throw in like a little you know, like a Argentinean or someone and 600 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,880 be like, hey, I'm Switzerland, right Yeah, yep. So the 601 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,760 episode ends with Durrell saying, well, I guess we gotta go with and 602 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,599 then fade to black. So he'll finish the sentence next week. I guess 603 00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:30,360 we'll see how he finishes that sentence. And that's the episode. Guys. 604 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,800 H Yeah, make sure you head over to challengepot dot com let us know 605 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,719 what you think about this episode. 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You 615 00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:12,599 know who you are, all you chatting people. Cindy is one of those 616 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,760 five dollars a month, all that same stuff, but we also say your 617 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,039 name. So thank you to Alana, Alvin, Bryan, Carlin, Caroline, 618 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,159 Christopher, Cindy, Greg, Jamie Joker, Julie, Katie Martez, 619 00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:28,280 Olivia, Olivia, Patty rolled in, Ryan, Sarah, Scott, Seth 620 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,159 Shack, Shaker, and stand thanks Everyboddy, We love you all. I'm 621 00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:36,239 pretty sure Cindy just got the two dollars tier just so you can hear her 622 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,079 name. It's five dollars to hear your name now, oh five dollars or 623 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:45,840 whatever, yeah, so it different Cindy, No, that's hers going on 624 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,039 in my own patroon. So she's in the Discord and everything. That's another 625 00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:53,519 thing you get. I think at two Bucks joined us at Discord. Uh, 626 00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:57,800 Tim, do we got your views? We sure do, guys. 627 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,079 And hey, I'm actually excited to have this one because we have a bad 628 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:04,639 review. Guys. I love reading bad reviews. It's very fun. But 629 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,360 bad reviews also encourage our listeners who have not written us a review yet to 630 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,679 write one. It seems like every time we get a bad review, then 631 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,280 we get a lot of good reviews in response. Right, That's usually what 632 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,480 happens. Sure, so head on over to Apple Podcast. Guys give us 633 00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:22,920 better reviews than Adrie Clark one, two, three four. This is a 634 00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:25,719 very specific review, and I do have an answer for oh good, okay 635 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,199 one star review and says if I could give less so boring? How did 636 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,920 they take a great show and ruin it? They are silent constantly. I 637 00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:39,440 thought it had turned off. Many times they discussed totally different shows like Daisy 638 00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:44,599 of Love. I fast forwarded to halfway through, and after seven seconds of 639 00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,719 silence, they still weren't talking about the challenge. I don't even know who 640 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,480 the hosts are. Maybe this isn't the official podcast, Well, yeah it's 641 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:59,199 it's not. Well, it's definitely not the officials. No, so this 642 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,159 is refer too when I fucked up and forgot to swap out the episodes. 643 00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:07,159 Yeah, because yeah, they got they got the pre show, they got 644 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,199 the show, they got the after show. So during the pre show, 645 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,960 if you really listen, sometimes I do cut it off. Sometimes I don't. 646 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,840 Uh, is that when we're sort of waiting for people to show up 647 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,079 in the chat room. Sometimes we're busy setting stuff up, so we're not 648 00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:25,800 even talking that much. Yeah, so I'm sure there's plenty of of dead 649 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,320 air during those times. Well, and I think unfortunately the one that you 650 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,639 put up the pre show is also where you couldn't hear Zach and I the 651 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,679 first couple of minutes, right, Yeah, just you talking to nobody, 652 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,639 Yeah, talking to the air. Yeah, and then we fixed the audio. 653 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,719 But yeah, whatever, Carlin says. Daisy of Love. I think 654 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,920 it got talked about a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, Daisy of Love 655 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,559 is an old reality TV show from VH one. What do you decide we'll 656 00:47:53,599 --> 00:48:02,039 be early ots? Yeah that when that's when the Flavor of Love and Rock 657 00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:06,320 of Love all that stuff was going on. Daisy of Love she was a 658 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:12,400 spin off of Rock of Love and I Love New York, I Love Important 659 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,039 One, I Love Money, I fucking loved I Love Money. Yes loves 660 00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:22,000 the h one version of the challenge bringing personalities from all these shows into like 661 00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:28,320 a competition show. Yep, Yeah, we actually named our daughter after Daisy 662 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,320 of Love. Did you really? Absolutely not? No, Okay, I 663 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,960 was gonna say that that's a trivia fact. I did not know. No, 664 00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:37,599 but I do have a daughter named Daisy. But and I did watch 665 00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:42,760 that show, but no, days they're otherwise unrelated, because I thought you 666 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,360 and ACTS used to watch that show. We did, no, but it 667 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,960 was actually, uh we named her from dead like me. Do you ever 668 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,239 watch that show? Oh? Yeah, okay, there was Daisy on that 669 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,480 show. And I don't know, we just liked the name. Not the 670 00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:00,239 best way ever, but there you go. I thought maybe it was Daisy 671 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:06,679 Duck too, and Daisy Duke with the shorts. Well, if you named 672 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,920 your daughter after that, that might come across a little weird. Oh maybe 673 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,599 a little bit. But I did love Dukes of Pazzard growing up. That's 674 00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:16,559 true, all right, Zach. Do we have any social media stuff? 675 00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:21,920 Uh? Not too much. We got a couple of people just like bashing 676 00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:29,039 Ben that are on the season and sometimes it randomly like scrolled upon while I 677 00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:36,559 was looking earlier. As have you guys seen bears Twitter profile like bio? 678 00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:40,159 No, what did it say? He changed it? It says the King 679 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:46,920 will return in twenty twenty four. He's a garbage. That guy sucks. 680 00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:51,320 I thought he got longer than that. Didn't he get five years or something? 681 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,239 Did he? I thought it was a couple and I've been five years. 682 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,480 You know, once you do like maybe like good behavior time served all 683 00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:02,119 that. I don't know how the UK laws work for like earlier, so 684 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,800 I've I've heard if you get good behavior you can shave off like half your 685 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,440 sentence over there. Yeah, well, he's a piece of shit. I 686 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,079 hope he stays in there forever too. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty much 687 00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:21,639 all I found. It's a slow social media week. All right, great, 688 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,480 well, thanks for listening to everybody, and uh, I guess we'll 689 00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:30,119 wrap this up. We'll head into the after show. Everybody's favorite part, 690 00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:34,199 love it? Yes? Um? All right, Well for this episode of 691 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,199 challenge. This has been Brian Big Google seet does that that kee bananas? 692 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:51,079 God damn fucking cat uh as Darell's as God. As Darell said, I 693 00:50:51,199 --> 00:51:05,880 grew up on my main crocodile, Dundee Charlie s sh he called a sh