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Let me all right, we're all
set cool, all right, Hey,

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welcome to PBF podcast number I don't
even know anymore. Today we're bringing Jaydyer

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on. We're gonna have a discussion
about occultism with military and the intelligence community.

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I guess it's a perfect thing for
a Memorial Day or something. I

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don't know, kind of ironic how
that worked out, but it was like

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days off for us, so we
figured it was a good time and Jay

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had the time open. But you
know, it's it's great to have Jay

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come on here. I know that
we've communicated for the past few years,

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back and forth followed one another.
Um, you know, for me,

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spicy, a lot of spicy memes
you put up. Yeah, And because

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of those spicy memes, sometimes we're
hard to find. Yeah. Right,

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you're like a ghost, you come
and go. Yeah. But we're on.

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I think this is our forty first
iteration of the yeah yeah. Because

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when we were back on Facebook,
Um, we were repeatedly getting zapped there.

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Now that was back in the day
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you know, I mean we were
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stuff when it came to the military, and so we got on people's radars.

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And actually it was that stupid dude
that like a bunch of the military

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guys have gone to Columbia and they
started up his dad worked for Fox News

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and they started up their own little
news site or whatever like that. But

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we would start nailing them. And
then because his dad worked for Fox News,

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he had connections with Facebook, and
like if we said something mean about

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him, we'd boom get deleted.
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what's kind of funny too, because
you know, for me, it's always

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been about honesty, right and so
but it was kind of a nihilistic honesty,

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I think. But as I was
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I was starting to look for,
you know, what's truth and things like

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that, that's how I ended up
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like one of the first things that
I really paid attention to you was Tryan

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Hope when you did that, and
I bought the book because you were saying

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things that were in tragedy and Hope
and I was like, there's no way

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this is true, do you know
what I mean? Like, because it

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doesn't sound real and would you just
you know what, since I'm talking about

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that, I can talk about it
if you want to, like what is

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Tragedy and Hope? Tragy Hope is
a gigantic, twelve thirteen hundred page book

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written by a doctor Carl Quigley,
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for the Council on Foreign Relations.
So he's kind of like to enter historian

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for the Western global power elite.
And he was also the mentor to Bill

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Clinton, so he kind of trained
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enterprise, he was also a military
historian. Oddly enough, he's not like

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a geopolitical policymaker, but for whatever
reason, they chose him to kind of

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be the strategist for how to how
to raise and rear Bill Clinton into the

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global plate structure and make sure he
was a good boy being a bad boy.

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Um, yeah, so that's quickly. And then yeah, there's a

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whole lore around the book that the
plates the original place were destroyed and he

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supposedly said too much. I don't
know exactly how much true out of all

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that. I'm not denying people's claims
about that. I just don't know the

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lore behind the book. But I
mean I also heard these stories here that

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it was given to Cia Section Chiefs
in the nineteen seventies to help explain you

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know, like why are we funding
communists? Well, here, read this

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book, you know, so so
yeah, So basically it's it's like a

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giant history of the twentieth century from
the perspective of the power elite. It

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was written I think in the nineteen
sixties, so it kind of ends,

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you know, in the Cold War. But it is wild how much stuff

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is in there. I mean,
he really packed it with, you know.

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Basically, oh, yeah, course, the banking elague are pretty much

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behind the wars, and they've constructed
you know, a giant Fiat scam system

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for the you know, the reserve
system to rape everybody, um, on

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and on on all the way to
you know, yeah, we're gonna build

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a giant computer cities that are technocratic
nightmares. I mean, it's all in

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there. Yeah, it's it's like
the whole idea that you're in a forced

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Tagalian dialectic and quite often you're just
looking for a jersey to put on.

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And how they control that with the
media propaganda. It's it's crazy, especially

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you know for both um, you
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coming from that military background, obviously
military thinking that we were wearing our jersey

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at that point. Yeah, good
guys. Yeah, we're not realizing that

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we were just working for the corporations
and banks. So it's right, I

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opened and that's honestly like you helped
bring me to that. And the irony

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of it too as well, was
you know, like whenever you had podcast

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on orthodoxy, I would totally avoid
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want to deal with that. I
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know. I thought that there was
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could just with rationalism figure this out. But it was a podcast that you

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did with Tristan and with Jim Bob. It was on the Boiler Room with

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Hest and on that episode, Tristan
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Orthodox Study Bible. Well guess what
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Study Bible yet because again I was
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a book. But I made it
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was like, Okay, he says
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he provides the whole framework from scholasticism
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now where we're at, and I
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gonna get that orthodox steady Bible.
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it's funny, that's a good contrast
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you know, Tragy and Hope also
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Maybe not a lot of it,
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the end chapters discuss the aspects of
Western civilization that Quigly thinks that can can

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continue on, and they're kind of
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if we just had more libertarian economic
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you know, I don't know,
basic bids, liberalism or whatever he's arguing

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for, that's the hope, right, So the tragedy is the two World

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wars. The hope is that democratic
neoliberal capitalism can um, you know,

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give the world the best what he
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He contrast that with other seven roses
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revolution progresses from you know, the
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you know, denial of biology,
you know what I mean. Like it's

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like that's the end goal of where
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the two books couldn't be greater.
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I had spent a lot of time
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it was by agnostic stage. But
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it's just all clicked, you know. And then you can see like leading

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up to like Nietzsche and what came
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godlessness that led to all the wars
and everything that we're seeing, and then

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like what you're seeing too as well, like now creating a mini genders genderless

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society, just creating that trans human
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And that's that's the thing is,
like I don't know how number one,

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you know, because leading up to
this pod catch with the occultism, I

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ended up getting um that book on
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just reading through people like I've read
some of these books at times,

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but it's often at a small type
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there and trying to make notes of
what's going on, like I can only

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make it ten pages sometimes and I
gotta put it down. It's like these

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guys are so full of crap,
you know, like they're so full of

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themselves, and I don't know what, Like you have read so many books

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of what's the opposition, and it's
a it's a library of information. I

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would suggest the audience going to Jay's
page. And then also, um Jay

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does host on what do you what
do you call? How do you describe

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ajum lord Valdemort right because you can? Yeah, yeah, that was a

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joke that he was making when he
first got banned everywhere. He was like,

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I'm like Valdemort from Harry Potter.
Folks, you can't name me.

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You'll get if you name my name. But it's a great too. You

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know a lot of times on Friday, Jay host that. But you're doing

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like podcast almost every day too.
Anyway, you know various topics, and

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you've got some books as well.
But if you would just go ahead and

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before I try to give you your
biography, maybe you can give us your

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elevator pitch. Yeah, I get
to ask it. I don't even know

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how to describe what we do anymore. Like right, like so like we

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had we have a boomer family member
and he doesn't know like what I do

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at all. He knows that I
do this kind of stuff and like he

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just calls it. He's like,
how's your internet business doing? Like the

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way that the Boomer thinks about the
Boomer thinks about what I do, it's

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like just so foreign to them.
But um, yeah, we do a

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lot of stuff. So basically,
we we cover movies, we cover geopolitics,

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we cover philosophy, we cover literature. Now we're trying to do more

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lit in history just to kind of
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I'm doing the same topic over and
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you've you've seen such a cycle of
topics that we've covered over the years.

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But yeah, we do that.
I do the fourth Hour Ballut shows every

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Friday. Um, what else do
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in la as well? Right,
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of events coming up. So this
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year of live events. So that
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Um at the advice of Sam Tripoli. He was like, oh no

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live Oh. I was like,
okay, sure, we'll try it out.

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I didn't think it would be it
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been fun. It's a it's a
I guess sided stream of income. But

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anyway, Yeah, so we have
a July sixth live event. We've incorporated

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like comedy, stand up, um, all the impressions, all that kind

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of stuff in the live events.
So that'll be July six in La.

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If you're in La, you want
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lot of fun. We'll have Jamie
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We did a podcast and hit off
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so we discussed doing a live event
anyway. Um. Yeah, So I've

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written three or four books. Three
three books, um, working on the

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fourth book, two on Hollywood,
one on philosophy. Um. Yeah,

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so that's basically the Red Book of
Philosophy or the Red One counts. Yeah.

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Well, the material in the little
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Red Books, just two different formats. Because the funny thing about the I

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didn't make the Red Book. Somebody
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Yeah, it's a funny story because
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Somebody just like took all of my
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which I had no idea they did
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been nice for you to ask me
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did that, and then I tried
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times, and they would just put
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just like, all right, fine, I'll just roll with it. So

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so that's for that book. It's
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well, Lose is cool, though, I mean unfortunately for you,

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I can see that's challenging. But
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find you know, like the Russian
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find crazy stuff on there. Yeah, yeah, and that that's dude.

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Tell you what, reading that Russian
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got a chapter at a time when
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it's like it just gets you.
You're like, Okay, that's painful,

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but it's that whole period is crazy. Um yeah, I know. I

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don't mean to be I'm not whining
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to be a good thing that they
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whoever did it tweaked it a little
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now and it's still kind of you
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a lot of debates, but we
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of debates, but it just got
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any quality people from these other traditions
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top Muslims, more of the atheists, and it just kind of went quiet,

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like we couldn't really get anybody to
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reason that the debates kind of subsided. But for a while there, for

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about two years straight, we were
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debates with Matt Delahuntie, Steffanmalanu,
all the different Muslim guys. Yeah,

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it reminded me not necessarily on the
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when you hear the Muslims talk,
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Occult, they in really reading the
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to you know, they'll they'll throw
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but then he said, and then
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Arabic thing that nobody has any idea, and they'll tell you what it said.

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about it, right, And so
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oh well religion, well, you know,

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does this work? You know where
I don't see this God? It's

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not practical. So was that the
attitude that you had when you said you

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had this kind of agnostic I think
a lot of us have that phase too,

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like you know where we was that
your approach to the question. Well,

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so I'll give mine real quick background
and then you can give yours two

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men of mind. Yeah. For
me, like I grew up I was

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born Roman Catholic, baptized, I
grew up much more like my best friend

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growing up is a Lutheran pastor and
I used to hang out with him.

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But you know, experiencing a lot
of the Protestant side of things, it

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was like that I reached a point
of where I was just like, yeah,

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none of this, it didn't really
come together. It didn't hold water

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for me. And so especially when
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and then dealing with and confronting things
the military side, for me, at

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a certain point, seeing evil the
way I saw evil, I especially with

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a Protestant framework, I was like, you know, Okay, there can't

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be a God because you wouldn't allow
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the background of the theology as I've
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it makes a lot more sense because
it's not that God allows that. Our

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rejection of God has created a world
that's a godless world that allows evil.

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Yeah, I've kind of like somewhat
similar, very kind of pragmatic, kind

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of grew up Latinos so like I
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and then just yeah, it didn't
really kind of work out in that

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aspect. I was trying to apply
things and like that theologically don't really kind

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of add up and don't make sense. It's like, how am I supposed

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to do all these things if I
don't have the proper framework. I'm not

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fascinating, I'm not praying as much
as I should. And then I'm only

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saying what's on my mind, and
most of the time it's like I have

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no clue what I'm saying. So, yeah, I kind of fell out

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from a lot of that, like
into like drug use and all this stuff,

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and eventually like I'm just gonna join
with the military, and then that

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kind of gave me some structure,
which was good. But then yeah,

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like you said, that was a
good point of things, became very pragmatic.

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It's okay, does this work cool, then we're gonna keep doing that.

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This We're gonna try. Yeah,
and if it makes sense, Yeah,

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I'm sorry to me. I mean, I was gonna ask, did

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you guys, uh, did you
guys view military as And there's the reason

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I'm gonna ask. I'm asking you
guys all this and others. It's like

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I'm not I'm not sioping you to
like flip the inter you guys are like,

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what's he doing? Man? So
like a lot of guys joined the

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military for for various reasons. The
weird thing is that in my case,

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my dad was like a stupid He
loved the military, like you thought it

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was so great. He worshiped it. And if he hadn't been so heavy

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on it, I might have actually
joined in the military. But like when

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you're a teenager and your parents,
you know, your dad like loves the

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military, he's always trying to push
it on you. That's the last thing

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you want to do, right,
You'll say, I'm like, Noah,

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hell no, I'm not joining the
military because you want me to. Well,

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if he if he hadn't been that
way, I might have because I've

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always had, you know, an
interest in these kinds of things. But

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my mom was opposite. She was
always like, no, don't let him

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go in there. You know he's
he's not he's not made for that.

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It'll be all right anyway. So
I'm curious, like, was it,

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oh, I just want to stop
doing drugs and I want to you know,

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clean up my life, or was
it, oh, I want to

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get that money for college, or
like what Because I had a military family,

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that's the weird part. It was
like I had a uncle who was

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like a super cold warrior dude.
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he wasn't an officer, but he
was enlisted, but he really loved

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the Navy and they were always pushing
it. So I'm always curious as to

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why people chose to go into the
military. Yeah, for me, m

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my uncle was in Vietnam and like, so he was a Murney and so

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I always like helping people out, Like

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I grew up poor, so it
was just like, oh, we're and

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with even still with that protest in
mindset, we were helping other people were

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in like struggling positions. And then
as I kind of fell away, I

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kind of like started doing drugs and
all this other stuff, and I'm like,

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I need to clean myself up,
cleaned up my life, and I

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knew it was kind of give me
a little bit more of like a structure

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and a bit more maturity, and
then it it did. But then it's

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also kind of like the thirteenth grade
in a weird way because there's people are

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very immature that it just it gets
a little overboard. But sometimes like once

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you actually go to like deployable units
and stuff like that. It gets a

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lot more serious, at least from
my experience, from like doing that,

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especially with like the Marine Corps and
stuff like that. Spending time overseas,

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you get that seriousness of like,
no, hey, this training, like

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if you don't do things right,
people are gonna die. And like it

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really kind of steered me a little
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you kind of do matters. So
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good way. And then you know, eventually I kind of wanted to offer

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something to someone, you know,
and like if I was gonna get married

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and stuff, have some form of
stable income and do that. So that's

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what it was for me. So
it was kind of like a way out

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of just of my hometown and then
to do something better. But ironically enough,

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I study in California for like forever. For me, man um so

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I was like a punk rock skater
kid, really rebellious, and I'm still

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like in my own way. That's
probably kind of what I think adds to

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sort of the character of you know, the spicy memes. It helps me

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to come from that direction. I
was supposed to start college. I was

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actually I went to art school for
a year and I had I postponed it

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just for you sound like me,
by the way, I almost went to

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art school. I ended up I
ended up doing a year, man,

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but I postponed it for a year. And then in the process of postponing

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it for a year, I had
a vehicle that broke down and it was

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going to cost me a ton of
money. And I was like, you

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know what, man, I'm just
gonna give this a shot. And so

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I went in. I did all
right on like the ASVAB. I had

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an opportunity. I wanted to go
like into languages linguistics, but a lot

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of the stuff that I wanted to
go into and that area was closed.

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So I went ahead, and I'd
like just chose a different path in doing

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that. And it was funny because
when I was in the military, how

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many people I stumbled upon that had
an attitude like mine. You know,

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There's a lot of my friends that
were in like special operations community and things

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like that, and there was a
parallel. A lot of the people like

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those were real people, you know, and I got to know real people,

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and those are people like I'm still
friends with now. I don't know

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if I've answered your question right,
you know, it's just like I didn't

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go into it like all gung ho, like you know, Team America.

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But while I was in I became
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I got out for a while,
I was hardcore Team America, you know,

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like okay, you know, like
you know, like as I rejected

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all these things before, this all
makes sense now and then it's kind of

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come back to like then I realized
I started wearing that juriously you know again

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it was that Hegelian dialectic I was
playing into. Yeah, yeah, I

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just always I think it's fascinating to
find out the motivations. Look why people,

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you know, chose that path in
life, and because something every now

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and then, like you'll meet the
people that are like, oh this is

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you know, my family worships this, right, it's like the greatest highest,

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you know, calling that you could
ever do. And then other people

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are like, oh, I was
just you know, trying to get laid.

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And I thought if I were,
like if I wore a uniform,

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chicks digg it. You know,
just crazy reasons anyway, you know,

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and we gotta go. I guess
that ties into what what you guys want

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to talk about today in the sense
that like, um, you know,

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military is in a sense I mean, I'm not saying it's it's not a

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it's an honorable definitely a calling in
the sense that to defend the country and

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all this kind of stuff and to
be a soldier is a noble, virtuous

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profession and we know that from you
know, Vine revelation, scripture at many

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places in tradition. So but we
can also, I think understand that these

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institutions can be corrupted and can be
used for nefarious purposes. And there's always

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been I think some degree of a
temptation maybe for people in the military towards

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something like Satanism. And the reason
I think that is because well, number

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one, I have a I have
a friend who's a who's a marine Southeast

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China sea analyst guy, and he
loves military history. And he got me

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to get this history military history of
Western World by a guy named Fuller,

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And he was telling me the background
of this guy and they're like, oh,

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he's like, oh yeah, this
guy's like a famous military story but

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he's like a Satanist and all this
stuff. And I'm like, what the

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what he's a Satanist And and He's
like, yeah, well, if you

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think think about it, you know, the idea of the soldier being you

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know, kind of a lawn to
himself and you've got to improve. Like

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it's like the extreme form of self
improvement to the point of self worship,

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which is the philosophy of the Satanists. So I think that's where the overlap

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comes, is that the there can
be an extreme of this idea that I'm

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going to be the perfect killing machine. I'm going to train myself to be,

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you know, this super Nietzsche and
Uberman's version of myself, and that

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overlaps with you know, the Satanic
Nietzsche and Ethos to a degree I think

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is like one dude, I agree. And that's like one of the things

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that I have found more difficult as
I've been kind of moving along and well,

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I don't know the challenge I guess
I should say, as I moved

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along in my path of orthodoxy and
like developing some more discernment, I guess

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at times, but then I run
into the egos of people where I used

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to thrive off of my ego,
and I run into that with a lot

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of the guy that I've known.
At times, they don't have humility,

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and they just like they're light.
They see the light, but they think

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the light is them and not somewhere
else that they're not a reflection of the

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light. You know, they're focusing
on that, and they're focusing on that

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in that very luciferian way. It
is. It's so common, you know,

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I know at times, and that
was the irony of it. It

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wasn't until you know, in the
last few years as I've started to reflect

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on this, that there's people,
oddly enough that I would bump into who

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were occultist, satanic things like that, and it was funny and ironic how

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many of them had ties they were
part of, like Intel, they were

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into witchcraft exactly. Yeah, I
remember years ago I would go to like

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I'm always my mom was a librarian
and an editor, so I've always grown

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up with books and anytime I go
anywhere to a city like, I always

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go to the bookstores first. I
remember years ago, like maybe in the

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early two thousands, like not too
long after the Big nine event I lived.

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I lived in its now that's not
too far from a pretty prominent famous

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base and it's like a military city, right, and uh so I would

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go to the bookstores back in the
early two thousands, and I remember even

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then like I would I would go
to this bookstore, Probabs, a giant

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one, and I would go probably
once every month, and I remember a

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consistent pattern of I was noticing a
lot of the soldiers from the base would

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pop up in the occult section buying
like Satanic books. And I mean,

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I don't have any proof of this. I just always wondered, like,

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you know, were they promoting this
like at that at that local you know,

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I mean, I know the military
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and you know they've had you know, people like a keynote in there for

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a long time. But I was
just always wondering, like, why are

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all these military dudes over here buying
witchcraft books? Buying you know, Anton

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LaVey's books. It was it was
a consistent pattern I would notice. I

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think, like from my experience was
that like if you look at them like

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I've just out last year or so, like I still it's still kind of

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fresh. It's like the way the
system works is just like for promotion,

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you have to have like a bragsheet
and practically brag about yourself. So as

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you're already feeding that egoistic kind of
set like mindset, and then everything's about

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yourself, the big things you are
doing, so you start pushing it to

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that, and then a lot of
people don't like to have that that Christian

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kind of mindset of stuff. So
it's just like it's more I guess in

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an opposition, but it's like they
try to find things to kind of to

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be edgy. Honestly, a lot
of people are kind of edgy when it

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comes to like a lot of military
stuff like that, and even when it

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comes to like Satanism. Some people
are honestly some of the smartest and dumbest,

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like people I've met. I've been
like in the military high i Q

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guys, and I don't know if
it's just out of sheer curiosity. But

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then also there's been other events like
Bible burning in Afghanistan because they didn't want

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to proselytize, and little things like
that that eventually add up that kind of

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plants that that seed of just like
hey man, Christianity is nothing, So

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then they kind of start looking at
all this occultism or even just the esoteric

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things like I could you get bored
undeployment, you meet people, you start

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talking. So I think that kind
of also opens up that door into deal

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coal because I've had conversations like out
overseas where it's just like you're bored and

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you've been sitting in a hole,
you're sitting in a truck, and it's

406
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,119
just like okay, bro, like, so what do you like? And

407
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,440
then just you know, you meet
that one dude who's just kind of a

408
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,799
little out there. And I think
that's what opens up those doors because people

409
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:27,480
get really closed real fast. So
at least from my experience, Yeah,

410
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:33,000
and that levaging style of Satanism is
perfect for that because it's like we're Satanist,

411
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,079
but we really don't worship Satan.
We're atheist Satanists, you're just worshiping

412
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,799
yourself. You know. It's like
it's a great gateway. Yeah, yeah,

413
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,519
yeah, And I think, um, I don't I can't prove this.

414
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,519
But another theory I've had is that, you know, I think a

415
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:53,079
lot of these cults, well this
is not a theory. A lot of

416
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:57,200
the cults do have overlap with uh, you know, intelligence agencies, and

417
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:04,000
they've been used in various capacities and
they've been reading grounds for experiments and for

418
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,160
you know, finding wackos and Patsy's
and that kind of stuff. I think

419
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,119
that is true, but I wonder. I wonder too, Like you know,

420
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,559
for example, I read a book
a couple of years ago that was

421
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:21,680
talking about I think back in the
seventies that there was an experiment in the

422
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:27,640
military where they were really trying to
push on certain battalions, an experiment with

423
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:36,480
getting them all into positive thinking,
and they were trying to see if,

424
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:38,920
like if they got all the soldiers
into Norman Vincent Peel and like uh,

425
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:44,440
you know, basically chanting mantras about
how awesome you or every day, if

426
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,400
that would actually work. But I
thought it was an odd experiment. But

427
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:52,720
that's hied in with the same timeframe
of in the nineteen seventies when they were

428
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,839
really pushing the guys. Have seen
Minister at goats, right, yeah,

429
00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:00,000
yeah, that that whole like Stanford
research for its Earth Battalion and phase of

430
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:06,400
where you know, can we can
we train these Jedi size soldiers right,

431
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,119
which I think the program was kind
of a failure, but some of the

432
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:14,240
aspects of it, like remote viewing
and this kind of stuff seemed to be

433
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,039
fairly successful. So so one hard
document that can be pointed to that we

434
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:22,119
do know for sure is the whole
Samford Research First Battalion stuff where they started

435
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,480
pushing kind of these light forms of
occultism and experimentation in the military. The

436
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:32,000
intelligenciations are doing this tube not just
the US, but the Soviets had size

437
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,279
spice too, where they're trying to
see could we tap into you know,

438
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:41,880
psychic powers and train our soldiers to
have remote viewing capabilities and you know,

439
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:48,319
so those elements are known, those
are all declassified. And then there's the

440
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,680
harder, crazier stuff, you know, with some of the Serial Killer Program's

441
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,720
Phoenix program, you know, can
we weaponize these kind of crazy people that

442
00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:02,680
we've profiled to be assassins? Uh? You know, you you guys know

443
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,519
about Phoenix program and all that.
Yeah, yeah, I think The thing

444
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,359
is too is like, uh,
maybe you realize this probably and I don't

445
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,119
know how people in the audience,
you know, especially when guys get into

446
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:19,599
special operations, there's a whole psychological
evaluation that goes into that, you know,

447
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,720
and you know, I mean there's
psychological evaluations for different things, but

448
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:29,759
specifically in the special operations community.
They're trying to find people with sociopathic tendencies,

449
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,039
just three allity of it. Yeah, exactly that, that's that's what.

450
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,599
Um, it's pretty obvious. I
mean, and you know, the

451
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:41,319
books written on this are written by
you know, guys who were in the

452
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:45,880
military, like Douglas Valentine, and
he's very critical and I don't uh and

453
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,519
I don't necessarily agree with all of
his conclusions, but because I think he

454
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,680
kind of went into thinking like,
oh, you know, all of this

455
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:56,200
Western stuff's bad and so you know, maybe Buddhism is good or something like

456
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,359
that, which I don't agree with. But but he does have uh,

457
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:02,799
you know, pretty technical, detailed
account of what went down in the Phoenix

458
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:07,519
program, and and you know that's
interesting. And it's not just him.

459
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:13,039
There's there's also like Navy programs that
have popped up in the in the mainstream

460
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,200
media that have been mentioned where it's
like, yeah, we're gonna profile and

461
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:22,000
create assassins and all that. And
I understand that the military has a degree

462
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,680
of like that that's part of what
they do. So I don't even necessarily

463
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,200
object to because I'm not you know, I'm pro death penalty. I don't.

464
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,759
I think that there's situations where you
do have to engage in these kinds

465
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:37,680
of activities, but the problem is
that you get the door for just total

466
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,519
corruption with these unaccountable you know,
shadow groups that can can use these things

467
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,519
for you know, all kinds of
self serving, ridiculous purposes that have nothing

468
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:51,440
to do with the defense of the
nation. Well well, yeah, and

469
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:53,880
it was interesting that you pointed out
how he turned to Buddhism because you know,

470
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,599
in my exploration on the way back
to Orthodoxy, I did go through

471
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:05,960
of that Eastern type thing. Because
if you've seen the framework of Western civilization,

472
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:08,839
which is primarily brought about at least
you know, the United States with

473
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,359
you know, Protestantism and things like
that, and then you see where it's

474
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,119
led to, then you're going to
look outside and try to see something like

475
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,559
that, you know, and we're
not exposed because I don't know about you.

476
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:24,119
For me, Orthodoxy was just Catholicism, but the Eastern version before I

477
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,319
knew what orthodoxy was, you know. Yeah, I think both Westerners think

478
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:34,119
that looking at it exactly. Yeah, and so it's it's interesting too to

479
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,759
see though at the same time too, with that corruption that's created I think

480
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:43,359
by the military. How then it
leads to someone you know, like I'd

481
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,079
like to talk about too, is
Michael Akino. You know, a guy

482
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:52,480
that, ironically enough, was born
on the day of the execution of the

483
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:58,000
Durremberg Trial members, and he considered
himself one of the three Beasts of the

484
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:04,680
Revelation of revelations along with Alistair Crowley, you know, like it's amazing,

485
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:08,559
Like and even because I listened to
podcast with this guy prior to ye,

486
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,639
I listened to a lot of those
two. Yeah, his eyebrows are on

487
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,960
point, though, like just literally
literally well you know what we were,

488
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,000
We were watching a bunch of old
horror movies and we realized that, like

489
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,920
if you go back to the nineteen
thirties horror movies like Boris Karloff, he

490
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,480
looks just like a Keno. So
Michael, like you knows, literally just

491
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,960
trying to ape himself from like old
horror movie actors. Like that's the look

492
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,639
he's going forward. That's funny.
I've got to I've got to look back

493
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,760
at that. It reminded me of
Grandpa Munster in some ways too, like

494
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,440
a like a younger version of what
I would expect Grandpa Munster to look like

495
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,039
because it's so over the top what
he was doing, Like what he's going

496
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:52,400
on. Yeah, it's like,
uh, it's like the there there's this

497
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:59,400
extreme sort of delusion of grandeur right
that oh by the way though, you

498
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,559
know those the beasts and Revelation that's
me by the way. Uh. I

499
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:07,000
mean, it's just super delusion.
And then at the same time, there's

500
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:10,119
like this clownish, cartoonish element to
it, which is just kind of it's

501
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:14,480
over the top. But I think
that for a lot of those guys,

502
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:16,719
you know, they studied and they
were really interested in Hollywood. They were

503
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,719
really fast. Especially LaVey was very
fascinated with Hollywood, so he was actually

504
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,239
into the theatrics and the you know, carnival circus clownery. He thought it

505
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,119
actually added to it. And I
mean Crowley has quotes about that too,

506
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:31,000
where he was kind of like,
you know, you have to kind of

507
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:37,119
live the part and also be kind
of a clown as well. So yeah,

508
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:40,639
but anyway, I mean I think
that it's just a manifestation of you

509
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:45,480
know, intense delusion, and even
in the midst of this delusion, they

510
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,199
end up kind of looking silly and
cartoonish to me. Well, it's ironic

511
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,440
then too that they met at the
premiere of Rosemary's Baby Baby Michael Queno and

512
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:59,039
Anthel LaVey in San Francisco. That's
where they had their first meeting there.

513
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,119
It's funny as you bring that up
because of that Tita Hollywood, because even

514
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:09,840
Levey was um, wasn't he actually
some kind of a source for Hollywood movies

515
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,760
and that early seventies satanic kind of
thing that was going on. Yeah,

516
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,760
I've heard this debunked and then it
turns out to be true. And Jamie

517
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,039
just my wife just read a book
on the biography of Leave, but I

518
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:29,760
think the woman that he had his
first kid with, and uh, no,

519
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,639
it is true. Like he was. He was definitely in the Hollywood

520
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:34,840
circles, and he was hanging out
with Jane Mansfield, and he was hanging

521
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,760
out with you know, Samy Davis
Junior became a member of that of that

522
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,719
church, so he's in all those
circles. And he did consult at least

523
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,719
on a few movies. So that's
one hundred percent true. But you know

524
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,719
to what degree these various actors and
whatnot took a serious I don't know,

525
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,840
I'm not sure, but again,
like you just like you said, like

526
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,800
the lava level of it is just
kind of like, oh, we just

527
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,760
worked ourselves and you know this is
social Darwin them in religion in a religious

528
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:06,039
form as all. It is.
So but the key, the key thing

529
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:07,480
I want to stay there is just
this point, which is that what I

530
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:12,320
started noticing when I was reading about
this years ago was you know, a

531
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,280
lot of these people overlap with the
military, Like a lot of these guys,

532
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:22,280
a lot of these people are directly
tied into military intelligence CIA. And

533
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:29,000
that's especially what we see with a
Keyno, right, who goes on to

534
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:35,400
become colonel. And then he writes
this essay, the essay mind Word to

535
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,719
cy War, Sie Word and mine
War whatever it is, that that talks

536
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:43,440
about pretty crazy stuff. I mean
he talks about EMF you know, ionosphere

537
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:50,639
weaponization, spraying, he talks about
how you can attack people at the cellular

538
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,599
level through these different frequencies. I
mean, it's pretty hardcore stuff in that

539
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,480
in that essay. But uh yeah, and I also read his book.

540
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,840
He has a book on black magic
from He's like, let's take the principles

541
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,719
of black magic and apply to psy
ops. He's like, because all psyops

542
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,360
is is basically voodoo and sorcery,
you know, appropriated at the technological level

543
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,719
for the military. Yeah, and
he there's a quote on there that like

544
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:15,480
kind of stood up to me on
that. Whereas like mine ward has nothing

545
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:20,320
to do with deception even selected therefore
misleading truth, the other states the whole

546
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,480
truth that if it doesn't exist now, we'll be forced into existence by the

547
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:27,760
will of the US, which kind
of ties back into the whole Crowley aspect

548
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,280
of dos that will, you know
what I mean, it's like pushing your

549
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,920
will onto others. And even in
that, it's just like the pure manifestation

550
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,880
of that is just like, bro, you're they're using this demonic will to

551
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:40,559
push all these things. And they
say it openly and people are like,

552
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,079
I don't understand how they fall into
the siop. It's like, nah,

553
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:45,559
man, that's not what they mean. But it's like yo, they say

554
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:50,840
here out loud. And even then, he's like, mine war must reach

555
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,079
out to friends, enemies, neutrals, anyone around the globe, and we're

556
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:59,280
gonna use the media possessed by the
US because it reaches everybody. So it's

557
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,880
like they're only saying it, Yeah, we're go use all these things against

558
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,199
you and there's nothing you can do
about it. And then when you question

559
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,679
as a body like you know,
we're just righting's ideas well. That and

560
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:14,880
and if you go all the way
up to today with that the NATO cognitive

561
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,960
warfare thing that came out a couple
of years ago, that's it's all the

562
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000
same type of attitude and philosophy and
that NATO thing, and they're saying the

563
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:27,960
same thing that well, if you
will weaponize this against the entire population,

564
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:31,159
and if you disagree with this,
then we'll say that you're a cyber terrorist

565
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:35,760
basically. So, and the whole
documents about trans humanism, it's like,

566
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,679
you know what, we have to
push nanotech, we have to push actual

567
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:45,159
changing of the human brain and the
human geno. So it's like literal trans

568
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:51,400
humanists, you know Claus level stuff
in this cognitive Warfare document, and a

569
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,079
lot of that wording, all that
phraseology is very similar to the cy word

570
00:39:55,079 --> 00:40:00,960
of mind more um similar to have
you ever read that one mine has no

571
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:05,119
firewalls? Because know that one I
don't not yet. No, it's another

572
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:08,119
one of those older uh say out
documents. I think it's from I can

573
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:12,280
remember for some the Army War College
or something, but it came out in

574
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,599
like the late nineties or early two
thousands, and it's about how the mind

575
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:24,000
is kind of like a computer and
you can will basically weaponize all this tech

576
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:29,000
to to mine control everybody, right, because the mind doesn't have any block

577
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:30,800
because you know, when you open
your eyes and information is sort of pouring

578
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:36,960
into your into your cranium through your
eyes. So since there's no firewall there,

579
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:42,920
basically we can weaponize information through the
Internet. Basically what it's saying on

580
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,440
a large scale, like it's saying
for everybody, Like everybody has no firewall

581
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:52,119
in their mind, and so the
entirety of the web can basically be a

582
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:57,400
weapon. Sounds like the Facebook Meta
dream Unit exactly. Yeah, and this

583
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,079
is before social media, right,
yeah, well but they were working on

584
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:07,079
social media, the CIA was working
on social media before Facebook came about.

585
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:09,719
You know, like it makes me
wonder, you know, with the early

586
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,440
days DARPA net and all the things
like that, like how many people foresaw

587
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:16,039
something like this. The ability of
this, I guess it kind of makes

588
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:20,920
me think too of you know,
when you look at like John D when

589
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,480
talking to the angels and how they
were trying to with the Anochian magic,

590
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:30,239
they were trying to create the future
sort of thing. It's like, how

591
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,280
much of that was going on with
the CIA and the DARPA and things like

592
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,920
that. Well, by the way, I found this document, it's a

593
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:42,519
nineteen ninety eight Army War College.
The mine has no firewall. It's not

594
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:45,599
that long. I recommend reading if
you haven't read it. But yeah,

595
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,719
yeah, I should actually brush up
on that one, because I haven't talked

596
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,920
about that in probably like seven or
eight years. But one thing I noticed

597
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,679
too is that a lot of the
occult stuff, the overlap that it has

598
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,320
with military intelligence and you know,
CIA and all that, is that it

599
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,320
has to do with cryptography, right. So I think with John D what

600
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,639
happened was he realized that a lot
of the you know, Kean magic,

601
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:13,639
and I think that he did to
some degree take that stuff seriously. Because

602
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:21,519
there's a book called Rosa Crucian Enlightenment. It's one of the famous treatises on

603
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:27,199
the history of the Enlightenment, being
influenced by her medicism, alchemy, and

604
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:32,400
occultism, and in that book she
covers the how John D had an influence

605
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,039
on the Rosa Crucians, right,
So before the Rosa Crucians came about John

606
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:45,440
D and his neo Platonic angel magic, right, was all about apotheosis.

607
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:52,239
It was all about how through all
of this you can achieve basically, you

608
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,400
can become God. So this actually
lays the groundwork, as as you guys

609
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,679
probably know, for the ideas behind
transhumanism and all that that you know,

610
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,920
man can through technology achieved godhood.
And the difference being that at that time,

611
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,400
right, they're they're thinking, let's
manipulate these these symbols and use you

612
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:17,480
know, formulations, calculations and whatnot
to transmute gold or base metals into gold.

613
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:22,960
And that could be an allegory or
a pattern for how we can take,

614
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:29,519
you know, the right materials in
the natural world to turn them into

615
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:32,559
some sort of technology or vehicle for
immortality. So this really does underlie all

616
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:37,239
the transhumanist stuff, right directly goes
back to John D and the alchemists and

617
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,519
all these people. And this is
not this is actually from historians. This

618
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:45,800
is not it's not conspiracy theorizing.
But there's another element that I wanted to

619
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,559
mention about John D, which is
that he also seemed to have been creative

620
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:55,360
in utilizing these magic symbols and citadels
as a form of cryptography. So you

621
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,960
know, in terms of spycraft,
if you want to transmit messages to the

622
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:05,559
Queen, one good way to do
that might be through a cipher that other

623
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:07,519
people have no idea what that is. And so that do you know the

624
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:14,119
history of cryptography, right, There's
always been code makers and code breakers,

625
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,239
and so the more obscure that you
could make your codes with things that no

626
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,760
one had, no one has any
idea what these symbols mean, right,

627
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,440
and then the better the security is
for the cryptography. So I think that

628
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:30,039
that was also a part of this
that he was because he was a spy,

629
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:34,320
right, love people don't know John
D was the first double O seven,

630
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,960
right, So when Ian Fleming wrote
the Bond stories, he's giving a

631
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:42,559
nod to that by you know,
being aware of his own British intelligence history

632
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:46,159
that you know John D was the
first double O seven because he was signed

633
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:51,719
his letters with the two balls and
the cane when he was writing to Elizabeth.

634
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,159
So that's that's what I think is
a big part of this story,

635
00:44:54,280 --> 00:45:00,599
is that a lot of the secret
society stuff is actually spycraft's actually I mean,

636
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:01,679
I'm not saying there aren't people that
you know, there's people that take

637
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:06,559
it seriously, but there's also people
that are using for other purposes. And

638
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:10,920
that really gives us an insight into
how the military and intelligence agencies would view

639
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,599
cults and secret societies. Right,
it's a vehicle. I'm not saying it's

640
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:20,199
only a vehicle, but it's all
it's a vehicle for intelligence stuff. And

641
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,199
we see this also with Freemasonry because
Jessica Harland Jacobs, who's a historian,

642
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:31,000
she wrote a book called The Builders, and she just details how the for

643
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:37,199
the duration of the British Empire,
basically the Freemasonic lodges were their intelligence network.

644
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:42,760
And there's certain movies that you can
watch, like The Man Who Would

645
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,679
Be King with Michael Kaine and Sean
Connery. I mean you can tell they're

646
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:51,920
like they're basically just spies who are
then scallywags out to just make their own

647
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:58,320
money, right, but they're they're
spies because they were they were right,

648
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:05,119
so they the lodges serve this function
for the British Empire, right as their

649
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:10,360
intelligence network. Well, and what's
interesting I think too that you you you've

650
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,079
kind of touched on a little bit. But you know, so the intelligence

651
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:19,239
agencies are going to use the occultism
to you know, basically help them with

652
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,079
their craft, right, But I
think what the especially when you look at

653
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:29,599
it um from the metaphysical level,
is that those entities in turn are actually

654
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:35,960
using you in such a way that's
for the destruction of mankind at the end,

655
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,239
the end goal. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I think because that's

656
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,519
what like with the Anochian Magic with
John d they're talking about bringing about a

657
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:46,800
new age. Crowley's talking about that, and then even back to Michael Lakino,

658
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:52,440
you know, like he ends up
in seventy five having his own on

659
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:58,360
the summer what is it, Summer
Solstice hit where he summons the Prince of

660
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:05,719
Darkness and creates his own Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, where where he's

661
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,000
now rejected basically leavey he's going to
help to bring about that new age and

662
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,719
exactly yeah, he says that his
whole thing was the magician speaking the new

663
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,679
word and the new aon but it
but a lot of this too is just

664
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,159
their own ridiculous like individual delusions of
the grandeur because he was. He was

665
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:30,400
like, if you remember he said
something like, um oh, well,

666
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,719
you know we thought LaVey was going
to be the majors of the New Aon,

667
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,599
but no, it's me because I'm
the one that's the real age.

668
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:40,000
Just that you know, it's like
and and the thing is that in the

669
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:46,440
the Krolean system, one thing I
learned by looking at the various figures who

670
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:52,079
graduated from that is that you'll notice
that many of them basically just start their

671
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:58,480
own cult. And it looks like
that what that structure is there for is

672
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:05,480
to basically really train you in being
an expert in religion making, because by

673
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,480
the if you look at l Ron
Hubbard, if you look at Gerald Gardner,

674
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,079
who starts Wick Hubbard with scientology.
I don't recall if to what degree

675
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:22,599
um A Keno was into Crowley,
but it's basically the same pattern here,

676
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:27,039
which is that at a certain point
they get they get to the stage where

677
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:29,679
they say, okay, now it's
it's time to start my cult and I'm

678
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,000
the magis that that has the you
know magical word in the New Aon.

679
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,519
Well, that's what it's all.
It's just it's just it's just graduate school

680
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,960
creating a cult as all that stuff
is. Well. What's funny though,

681
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,400
too is one of the things like
every time I stumble upon when somebody's talking

682
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,639
about Akeino, whether it's in a
book or in a podcast or something,

683
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,960
and they're like, and then he
stepped down for like three years, you

684
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,320
know, like he steps down and
nobody's ever done this before. And that's

685
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:58,239
just the thing because they're so egotistical, like you just it's so unheard of,

686
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,519
and they make it sound like,
oh, what a guy. He

687
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,280
is down and it's like okay,
like it's just it's so unheard of,

688
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,320
and they make it seem like he's
some kind of I don't I don't want

689
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,679
to saint, but whatever they call
it, he's a he's a better demon

690
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,039
and the other demons. Yeah,
that's a that's a good point. I

691
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:22,159
mean it's every one of these groups
is like, you know, oh,

692
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:25,400
we have the path to becoming God's
right. I Mean, that's what all

693
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:30,519
these systems are basically, just you
becoming your own God. Whether it's Wick,

694
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,320
whether it's a you know, neo
Platonic magic, or whether it's Croly

695
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:37,760
or any of these things. It's
all this promise of exactly what you know,

696
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,519
Satan promising the garden yall, you'll
be God if you just, you

697
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:44,400
know, follow my magical system and
send me, you know, two hundred

698
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,519
dollars a month. Right, Um, so, but it's so, But

699
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,960
I'm just saying that, Well,
it's true that there's this this dark component

700
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,400
to it, for sure, I'm
not denying that there's also a gigantic level

701
00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:01,000
of conman scammer involved. And that's
what went You notice is that like a

702
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:06,360
lot of these people, they'll leaven
brag about like how good they aren't lying,

703
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,800
and then it's like but then people
fall for their I believe the system.

704
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,199
I've mastered. The whole system is
like, well, you know,

705
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,480
this guy says he's a liar in
a comment, Right, So is it

706
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:20,920
possible that you got scammed? I
mean, have you considered that angle?

707
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:23,719
I don't think they do, because
then it's like, what's that old saying,

708
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,360
Go, it's easier to fool someone
than to tell them they've been fooled,

709
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,239
you know what I mean? So
they've already bought Crowley cites the P.

710
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,559
T. Barnum quote, Right,
the fools more in every minute Crowley

711
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:39,559
Actually, right, Yeah, and
even then like all the stuff that they

712
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:44,079
write is kind of like it's right
now, you've been doing the series and

713
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,480
I know you posted an old video. It's all in your face and literally

714
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:50,559
it's like you read the books that
they write or the stuff that they've put

715
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:52,679
out, and it's super obvious when
it comes to a lot of that stuff,

716
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,519
and it's like, look, yeah, we're gonna use It's all these

717
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:59,920
tactics because it's like it's my will
versus yours, and I will use any

718
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:06,199
thing to subvert and to have my
will and my goals forward in that direction.

719
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,079
And if it comes to lying deception, whatever it might be, it's

720
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:12,960
just like they don't have that moral
or ethical guidelines to be able to stop

721
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,960
them, you know what I mean. And it's like when you don't have

722
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:21,239
that, it just anything goes for
the CIA too. Yeah, exactly.

723
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,639
Yeah, I mean that's what you
can see why this stuff is really good

724
00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:27,440
for those purposes. Yeah, especially
these kinds of you know, introducers are

725
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,880
involved in black ops and that kind
of stuff. Well, when it comes

726
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:35,079
to deception, also, have you
read by Smedley Butler War As a Racket

727
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:38,440
on that as well? I've not
read the book now, I'm familiar with

728
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:42,880
it, just you know what happened
with him and his you know, background

729
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,000
and all that and the coup they
were going to do. But I've not

730
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,599
read the book. It's good,
but it's it's still kind of practically on

731
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,760
that same line that you already know
of the big military industrial complex and that's

732
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,679
really what war is for, is
just for a massive profit on all that.

733
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,280
But it's it's a it's a good
read, and like I know,

734
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,559
it's gonna it's stuff that you kind
of already know. But from that perspective

735
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:06,159
of military and how they were,
like you said, they were trying to

736
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:07,559
prop him up, and a lot
of the times you still see that to

737
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:12,639
this day and age of just like
hey, we have this medal of honor

738
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,599
high like recipient or something, and
they're going to prop him up and use

739
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:21,199
him as like a propaganda piece.
But surprisingly he kind of realized how he

740
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,239
was about to be used. But
even this day in age, people don't

741
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:29,519
understand that that it's still happening to
today and they've already attempted in the past,

742
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:31,440
so it's like like people just don't
want to kind of see it,

743
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,880
and it's tough sometimes, like because
it's like being in the military and people

744
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,679
you have this perception of what you
think you're going into, you know,

745
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,320
like kind of we discussed earlier of
like hey, I want to join to

746
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,400
serve my country and like you know, like fight for freedoms. But in

747
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,679
reality, it's like you're just a
tool being used by the military and does

748
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,360
so complex for this endless war to
have this continuous revolution, you know what

749
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,559
I mean, even funny enough talking
about Father Sarah from Rose where nihilism,

750
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:01,199
that's all it is, is a
continuous revolution until you know, it just

751
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,840
keeps on going until the destruction.
Well that's why. That's why the neo

752
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,079
Kon philosophy, and I think that
we could say that the neo Khon attitude

753
00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:14,320
is pretty much what still dominates and
that's pretty much, you know, the

754
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,280
operating system that the system still runs
on. You know. I mean Hillary,

755
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,280
Hillary was basically neo Kon you know, even when Obama is basically neo

756
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,679
Kon two. And that whole philosophy
is trotsky I, right, So trotsky

757
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,159
philosophy is perpetual revolution, never ending
revolution. That means never ending war.

758
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,760
So that's where that comes from.
And all the people that Rand Corporation that

759
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,199
devised this whole strategy. They were
all a bunch of Trotskyite neo kant right,

760
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:43,559
Herman khon Volschtetz are all those guys. That's where all that comes from.

761
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:46,559
Right, It's literally designed out of
uh, you know, Rand Corporation,

762
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:52,119
military dustial complix strategies. But you're
right that it goes back to what

763
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,880
Butler was writing about, because that
backs up quickly, I mean, Smelly

764
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,440
Butler is basically saying what Quickly said. The only difference is that quickly it's

765
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,199
not you know, he's not saying
it's a it's a corrupt entity. He's

766
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:04,960
like, no, this is just
the way it is, and it's good.

767
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,719
He's an apologist. Yeah, And
a lot of people kind of miss

768
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,280
out on that. And it's hard
because it's like, like I care about

769
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,239
like the dudes that are in and
it's hard to kind of give them that

770
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,199
perspective of look, bro, like, I know it sounds like a conspiracy,

771
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,880
but if you kind of follow like
the track and you kind of look

772
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,360
at it historically wise, and the
most easiest of like hey, just follow

773
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,639
the money, like you kind of
lead to like a lot of these similar

774
00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:30,480
conclusions, and I guess that's the
hard part of China. Like I guess

775
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:35,159
from our perspective at DDY and then
with PBF as well, it's just like,

776
00:54:35,199 --> 00:54:39,719
hey, look like it's we're going
off mainline even just documentaries, books

777
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,719
and things that have been out there
and things that have been declassified, like

778
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,280
even just your CIA one that you
did like a few uh. I think

779
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,320
it might have been last week where
they were the one with Charles Heston where

780
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,880
there a CIA were openly they were
sayings like, yeah, we do all

781
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:58,519
these things in other countries, but
we don't tell like people in government.

782
00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:01,559
We tell them just enough, but
so they can honestly, like so they

783
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:05,199
can openly deny and be like,
yeah, I had no clue this stuff

784
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,760
was happening. But it's like it's
like if they're doing it overseas or doing

785
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,880
it here, and it's like it's
blaantly obvious. But that's the hard part

786
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,880
of trying to get Yeah, I
was surprised how much was admitted and that

787
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:22,480
that you know, mainline TV show
with that kind of surprised me what was

788
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:24,440
in there. I've been watching a
bunch more of those two. There's there's

789
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:30,320
a lot of Little Nuggets and whatever
that show was. But you know,

790
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,800
the same thing, you know you're
talking about lamenting. Uh, you know,

791
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,199
young guys, I had the same
experience that you guys are talking about

792
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,519
in terms of kind of what you
think these institutions are when you go into

793
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:43,599
them and then you come out of
it, and it's like that. It

794
00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:45,719
wasn't at all what I thought it
was with academia, right, So when

795
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,159
I went into academia, I thought, oh, you know, I want

796
00:55:50,159 --> 00:55:52,400
to be a professor. It's going
to be great because you know, it

797
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:57,239
operates on the you know, merit
system, and if you're really smart,

798
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,760
and if you're really good at you
know, making your case and your papers

799
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,280
and being a good teacher, you
know you're gonna, you know, cream

800
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,480
rise to the top. All this
nonsense. And that's not at all how

801
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:08,719
the education system is like. It's
it's a giant racket as well. It's

802
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:15,440
a giant brainwashing cult. And I
think now everybody can see that with how

803
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:19,920
bad education has got, with all
the you know, purple hair social justice

804
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:23,440
woke nonsense, I mean, it's
just insane now at a lot of universities,

805
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:28,599
maybe not everyone, I know,
there's still a few universities are not

806
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:35,159
that crazy, but I mean I
was when I was at the Regular State

807
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,960
University in the two thousands, it
was already pretty bad, and it was

808
00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:43,239
you could tell it. The writing
was on the wall, you know,

809
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,519
like it was like, this is
definitely going to continue. It's going to

810
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:50,400
get crazier and crazier. They're going
to keep pushing more and more nonsense,

811
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,920
and they're not going to let people
in other words, they vetue. That's

812
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,559
what I'm trying to say. So
if you're not on board with the total

813
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:04,199
woke agenda, they don't want you
having a PhD. Right. And I

814
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:08,480
remember telling people this in like the
late two thousands, and people thought I

815
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:13,119
was crazy, Oh, you're just
being a dick. It's you're a problem.

816
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,719
You're the problem. You're the dude. I'm like, it's not me.

817
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,280
I'm feeling it's like these people are
these professors are literally insane. They're

818
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:27,039
like the most degenerate, just scumbag
people, and it's you, you're the

819
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:31,679
problem. And I'm like, no, it's not like, I mean,

820
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:36,199
I got a million I got a
million stories at least, just horrible professors.

821
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,280
It's the same thing in the military
and I remember I had boys back

822
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,719
in the day would tell me same
thing. They're like, bro, just

823
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,079
get your shirts, get your education, and get out. They've seen the

824
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:46,639
right And I was like, no, it's gonna be okay. And it

825
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:52,639
was the same thing, like it
started getting more progressive, more diversity and

826
00:57:52,679 --> 00:57:54,639
all this stuff, and even just
like my last year, it was so

827
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,239
like with the whole thing with the
Jimmy jabs, was just like no,

828
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,719
just shut up, take it and
or get out, And a lot of

829
00:58:02,719 --> 00:58:07,639
people were kind of forced up against
the wall, and like it woke up

830
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:08,760
a lot of people, you know
what I mean, because there was an

831
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,679
obvious like push to that, which
you know, I'm kind of grateful for

832
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:15,000
that because it kind of helped push
me into irene. You I was like,

833
00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:17,360
okay, yeah, my time tears
done, bro. But even not

834
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,559
just that the obvious like Marxism and
like and some people really missed out on

835
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:28,360
it. But when you have like
higher ups from enlisted to officers that are

836
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,360
like don't even realize the things that
they are saying, and they're just repeating

837
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:36,159
the same propaganda that it's just being
pushed out through mainstream media, that it's

838
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:37,960
just like, look, bro,
like how much you actually look at it

839
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,559
objectively and look at what things are. But instead it's just like, now

840
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:45,440
we're gonna repeat all these points and
if you don't like it, then you're

841
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,280
part of the problem. And then
if you raise any questions then you're kind

842
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,079
of blackballed, you know what I
mean. And that's kind of what happened

843
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:57,800
to me. The same way.
Military is the same way, and it's

844
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,400
just like at a certain level,
like you rank up by doing like tests

845
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,400
and stuff, but to go to
the chief level, which is like E

846
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:08,719
seven, I don't know how familiar
are with like rank structure, but you

847
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,880
do a test, but then you're
also selected, so you do like a

848
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,000
whole board and everything, and then
like yeah, they're vetting people and if

849
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,280
you're not drinking the juice, then
it's like, bro, you're not gonna

850
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,119
make it. And I've I know
people who were at that level that they

851
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:27,360
were just like, bro, like
I'm honestly embarrassed, like of like the

852
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,800
type of people that how quickly everyone
just like lockstep, you know what I

853
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,320
mean. We're just like, oh, that's what we're doing, well,

854
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,000
that's what we're doing, but deep
inside they knew it wasn't true, And

855
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,480
I'm like, bro, then why
are you going with it? Dog?

856
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:43,679
Like, where are you gonna draw
that line? Like you've already sacrificed this,

857
00:59:44,039 --> 00:59:47,599
You've already given in this much like
I pray that they repent and that

858
00:59:47,679 --> 00:59:51,599
they turn away and they kind of
realize it. But it's kind of going

859
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:54,559
back to even just what Alexander Socialism
was saying. He's like, hey,

860
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:58,800
yeah, I knew all these things, and if I would have just done

861
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,440
one little thing, like it's my
fault. That thing's got this bad.

862
01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:06,800
You know, there's a lot of
cowards. Like a lot of people are

863
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:13,079
cowards and they're scared of um,
anybody you know, saying a mean thing

864
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:15,800
about them. It's just amazing how
weak people are, Like they want to

865
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:21,360
be they want everybody to like them. Yeah, that's what motivates. That's

866
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:27,559
a very christ like shaying that.
Yeah, Christ, Christ was nice to

867
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:34,280
everyone. Oh was he then?
Of vipers? Empty stuff? Yeah?

868
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,719
Well it's just like there's a Jesus
in my head. That's the Jesus that's

869
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,679
nice and he's like a hippie dude, and that's the real Jesus, And

870
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:42,760
that's the one I fault it's like, now that's the one you made up

871
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,400
in your head, dude. Yeah, and it's it's honestly like kind of

872
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,840
sad that it's just like, bro, like you say you're about freedoms while

873
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,280
he's coming back to the military stuff. Is just like, but you were

874
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,599
so easy to just stomp on everyone
and that wasn't like going with it.

875
01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:59,679
But yeah, like this whole buddy
thing is just like, no, there's

876
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,639
there's you can still be objective and
be loving and still correct someone like,

877
01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:07,559
well, you know what's interesting,
you know when you're talking about some of

878
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:09,840
these things with academia and then the
military, because again, you know,

879
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,719
Michael Kno, he's a guy that
went on to get his PhD. He

880
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,880
was a college professor, and you
know, it's another one of those things

881
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,719
that people push him or you know, they say about him is just oh

882
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,400
look and like even there was one
of the quotes that I heard about him

883
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:28,320
is why do you trust a guy
who's an open Satanist. Well, he's

884
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,000
not a homosexual or a druggie and
he's open about this, you know,

885
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:37,920
and here's a guy who was part
of the and I don't know, like

886
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:43,079
I'm curious, Jay that whole Satanic
Panic type thing, because I dove into

887
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:46,480
a lot of research on the stuff
that went on, like Presidio and a

888
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:52,440
lot of things like that. Like
what's your perspective on the so called Satanic

889
01:01:52,480 --> 01:02:00,239
Panic? That's a good question.
Actually, somebody brought us of the day

890
01:02:00,239 --> 01:02:04,679
and I was thinking, how it'd
be good to comment on this, because

891
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,320
I think it's a little more complex
than you know. I'm not saying you're

892
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,400
saying this, but a lot of
people think of it like, oh,

893
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,800
it was either nothing going on or
you know, I think that there was

894
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:20,360
layers to this. For example,
one of the books that came out,

895
01:02:20,639 --> 01:02:23,360
it's called Michelle Remembers, and that
was one of the early books that helped

896
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:30,760
kick off the Satanic Panic. And
I think that she was exaggerating her story.

897
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:34,119
It was pretty extreme, and she
put a lot of things in the

898
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:38,639
book that were kind of just kooky
and ridiculous, but it kicked off this

899
01:02:38,719 --> 01:02:43,719
panic. And I think that in
the you know, a lot of this

900
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,679
panic was driven by not just the
media and Graldo in this book, but

901
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:52,360
it was also driven by kind of
goofy evangelicals, right, So that's a

902
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:57,119
component to it which you know,
evangelicals at times will have this kind of

903
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:04,880
overly what's the word I'm looking for? Nope, they'll just be kind of

904
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,159
superstitious about stuff, right Like I
get this even still where it's like people

905
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:14,119
you know, oh you you know
you use the symbol in your in your

906
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,079
thumb nails, so you're secretly a
Satanist, right So there's this element of

907
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:22,800
like idiot evangelicals that will obsessed over
these kinds of things, and there's no

908
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:28,880
nuance er, there's no no,
no, no understanding to the that the

909
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:34,760
the symbols have multiple what's called poly
valence right there. They're they have different

910
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,239
contexts, different meanings, and different
contexts. So part of it is that.

911
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:45,320
But there actually were cases of actual
satanict ritual abuse, and you know

912
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,960
this has come out over over time. The declassi declassify things about the Finders.

913
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,079
For example, um, that was
going on, You've got we get

914
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:57,960
talked about that a little bit.
I don't know that everybody knows about the

915
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,760
Finder's Cult. Can you give a
quick background of that. This was a

916
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:09,519
basically a CIA run cult that was
involved in trafficking and mind control. It

917
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:13,519
had this weird New Age flavor to
it, and it eventually got sort of

918
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:17,880
broken busted up. I can't remember
who was the first to expose it.

919
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:24,760
I remember there's There's a chap Drone
and then Dave McGowan's book on Program to

920
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:30,679
Kill. But um it tied into
a lot of stuff adjacent to the Franklin

921
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:35,519
scandal, which is out of Nebraska. You had these high level GOP people

922
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:42,320
that were engaged in a lot of
high level lobbyists and people like that that

923
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:48,159
we're funneling money and trafficking kids.
And it involved Satanic rituals with Larry King,

924
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:54,480
who was like this black GOP dude
out of Nebraska. And that's been

925
01:04:54,519 --> 01:05:00,480
written about in multiple books by Nick
Bryant. And was that like East Town

926
01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:03,000
in Nebraska part of that too,
Yes, but Boys Sound it was part

927
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,559
of the where they would get the
boys. Yeah, and that was the

928
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:14,199
local Catholic Nova Sordo priest who was
funneling the kids from Boys Town to these

929
01:05:14,239 --> 01:05:17,360
parties. By the way, same
model that if you noticed in the recent

930
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:24,840
German satanic scandals of the Roman Catholic
church, where the nuns were taking kids

931
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:29,239
from the orphanage just to be raped
by the German business elite. Have you

932
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,360
seen that one? No, that's
kind of new one to me. Yeah,

933
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,159
no, look that up. Yeah, that's like, well, I

934
01:05:35,199 --> 01:05:38,920
don't know how the abuse had been
going on I think for a long time,

935
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:45,199
but out in German media and then
it went everywhere else in the media

936
01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:47,760
within the last year. So that's
a famous crazy to because you had like

937
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:55,519
the East Germany thing too, where
they were taking orphans kids and putting them

938
01:05:55,559 --> 01:06:01,880
in with child known child molesters like
gerbody. Yeah, that's crazy. I

939
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,239
mean even like the whole Finders thing. Like people aren't like it's it's been

940
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,400
declassified in the FBI Evolve. We
made a post about it the other day

941
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,000
and people are like, no,
bro, you're crazy, And I'm like,

942
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:15,639
it's literally been declassified and it was
just be classified last year two years

943
01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:20,119
ago. Yeah, yeah, pretty
good exactly. Um. But but the

944
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:24,639
funny thing is that, uh,
even though it's just declassified, like a

945
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:28,079
bunch of people were writing about that
for like twenty years. I mean it's

946
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,920
it's it was a well known thing. Um. Well, one of those

947
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,440
types of things where it's like,
oh, but that's a conspiracy theory,

948
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,199
you know, like everything right,
Like, let's come at it. Let's

949
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,719
hit it really hard. Let's say
that this is all a lie, it's

950
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:45,079
all a conspiracy theory. And then
once you've got people accepting in their minds

951
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:46,679
that oh, this can't be real, we'll go ahead and put the truth

952
01:06:46,719 --> 01:06:50,599
out there. And then you know, it's that distorted reality that they create

953
01:06:50,679 --> 01:06:58,639
for everyone. Yeah, yeah,
it's they do that. That's a technique

954
01:06:58,679 --> 01:07:00,119
too, where you you know,
it's like that they do the same thing

955
01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:02,800
with oh, Bilderberg doesn't exist,
and it's like, oh, okay,

956
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,039
yet exists. But it's a good
thing, right, and why are you?

957
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:10,920
Why you? And here's why it's
a good thing. Yeah, right,

958
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,719
yeah, like liberal article titles.
Right. Um. But yeah,

959
01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:17,880
so the Finders is one, I
mean, and there's just so many of

960
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,719
these that end up popping up,
Like I can't even keep up with all

961
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:26,840
these different groups and circles. You'll
you'll lose your you know, is there's

962
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,079
so many cases of this, like
the scope, the scope of it is

963
01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:32,480
kind of hard to believe and how
they were doing all this stuff. Um,

964
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,039
but those are the famous cases from
like the seventies and eighties of the

965
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:41,519
Franklin and the Finders, And there's
usually some kind of ritual element to it

966
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:44,840
and to get back to the Satanic
panics. So so you're correct, like

967
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,639
there's there's these real elements that are
going on. I went actually pretty deep

968
01:07:48,639 --> 01:07:55,239
into some of the serial killers because
that actually ties into the Satanic panic because

969
01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:59,519
if you remember a lot of the
serial killers of the seventies and eighties,

970
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:02,719
it would come out in the media
that they had these you know, satanic

971
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:08,280
connections. Right. Most famous would
be Richard Ramirez who was openly a Satanist

972
01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:13,000
um and then he and he had
this uh military relative I think it was

973
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:17,800
his uncle who uh supposedly I think
he was like a Green Beret or something

974
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,000
like that, but he got he's
the one the guy Richard into Satanism,

975
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:27,600
and Richard actually went and Matt Levey
at one point, um, yeah,

976
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,760
it's a it's a he tells the
story about it. Um. But that

977
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,960
was part of the Satanic panic.
And then uh kicking it off, I

978
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,159
mean, getting it, getting it
going. And then Hiraldo, interestingly,

979
01:08:38,199 --> 01:08:43,000
he did a show a series on
Satanism, and this was one of the

980
01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:46,119
key catalysts I think oprited too.
But Peraldo's series that he did on the

981
01:08:46,119 --> 01:08:48,760
satanic pannic. I think you can
go watch these on YouTube. I watched

982
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:53,279
him years ago. Yeah, Keno's
on there. Yeah, Keno's on there,

983
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,800
and he does he does want to
Bobby Berdella the serial killer. Oh

984
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,960
yeah. It turns out. It
turns out Bobby Bardela actually was a Satanist

985
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:03,840
and he basically had his own little
satanant cult um and he was, you

986
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:12,039
know, basically doing b DSM and
killing people. Yeah say what, No,

987
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:15,479
he had a he had a story
that was called Bob's Bizarre Bizarre Yeah

988
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,239
yeah, correct. Um, but
but but it came out too that he

989
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,880
had his own little like Satan cult
right, So he was ahead of it

990
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,000
and it was like five people,
right, So it wasn't like a huge

991
01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:30,039
underground thing, but um, it
tied into all the you know, just

992
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:34,119
the weird, uh underground b DSM
stuff that was going on. And anyway,

993
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:40,359
long story short is that he actually
wasn'to that stuff. Right. So

994
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:44,920
so Haraldo documentary you know, kind
of made it. It sensationalized it,

995
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,520
but there's actually many of these cases
it was true. Right. Well,

996
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:54,680
so then you have these people coming
out with claiming that uh, they had

997
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:59,199
been abused and they were getting this
from their repressed memories and they were doing

998
01:09:59,279 --> 01:10:01,920
like regression hypno therapy and all that, which I think is a little dubious.

999
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,119
Yeah, but that doesn't mean that
it wasn't happening. Because there was

1000
01:10:06,119 --> 01:10:09,760
also the mc martin preschool trial,
which if you look at that, it's

1001
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,680
pretty wild. I think that was
definitely something going on. And when they

1002
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,279
declassified that information they talked about the
finders, they also declassified that there actually

1003
01:10:17,279 --> 01:10:23,600
were tunnels underneath the mc martin preschool. And that's relevant because for so many

1004
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:28,199
years mainstream media had said that that
was not true, it was all made

1005
01:10:28,279 --> 01:10:30,199
up. Well, wasn't it the
same thing in the presidio case that there

1006
01:10:30,319 --> 01:10:34,800
was like another building exit there that
had underground tunnels. And ironically enough,

1007
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:40,399
it was not the actual like place
where they were kid aping the kids from.

1008
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,800
It was that next or building that
got shut down. Well it was

1009
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,680
there was a bunker or something yet
from yeah two, and it was behind

1010
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:53,399
the intel building where Michael Akima worked, and they had a bunch of like

1011
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,479
scrawlings on the wall in there too
as well, and something like with the

1012
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,560
Prince of Darkness, if I recall, and to go along with that Presidio

1013
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:09,279
case as well. You know,
there were Michael Aquino claimed that during the

1014
01:11:09,279 --> 01:11:13,560
time that he was supposed to have
been molesting the children, that he was

1015
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,960
in Washington, DC. And then
he later you know, he said like,

1016
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,399
oh, well it was proven you
know that, you know, like

1017
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,279
I was in DC. So they
no, no, no, no,

1018
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:25,479
no. The San Francisco police said
that there's no, we don't have enough

1019
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,640
evidence that says that he was actually
here, but we can't prove that he

1020
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,479
was actually here molesting kids as well. But during that time, four kids

1021
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:39,960
came down with lamydia at the Letterman
Hospital in San Francisco, and there was

1022
01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:45,840
anywhere from sixty to one hundred kids
where there was valid information that children were

1023
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:49,560
molested. Now, on top of
that, some of the interesting aspects of

1024
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:58,520
that whole thing was that the daycare
at the presidio on I think it was

1025
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:04,840
the Fall Equinox or fall whatever,
September twentieth, September twenty second whatever,

1026
01:12:05,039 --> 01:12:10,159
that building burned down. There was
five hundred thousand dollars worth of damage to

1027
01:12:10,399 --> 01:12:14,920
that building. And then the classroom
of one of the guys who was actually

1028
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:20,039
at the daycare center that also burned
down. And both of those were arsons,

1029
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:27,920
but they never actually pinned the arson
on anyone. M Yeah, I

1030
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:34,119
mean similar stuff in there was another
case I was trying to think of that

1031
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:40,800
there was a similar pattern of oh, speaking of the when this was all

1032
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:45,880
popping off in the eighties, the
reliance on the memories of the kids,

1033
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,600
right, So like in the McMartin
trial, you know, you had all

1034
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:54,960
of these kids basically describing commonalities,
which is really bizarre for like, you

1035
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,479
know, three four or five year
olds to be describing the same people in

1036
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,319
rituals, right, because they were
saying, oh, well, these kids

1037
01:13:00,319 --> 01:13:04,239
have just sort of imagined this is
the false memory syndrome. Was led to

1038
01:13:04,279 --> 01:13:08,000
the I was going to talk about
Martin Norn and the false memory syndrome,

1039
01:13:08,119 --> 01:13:11,720
and that was actually set up.
That was a CIA aided thing to set

1040
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:16,199
up to disprove all of the claims
of the kids and oh, you're just

1041
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:19,399
having false memories. But it turned
out that they were a bunch of creeps

1042
01:13:19,399 --> 01:13:26,439
and weirdos. Two the people that
were running the Martin nor he himself had

1043
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,800
been like a cue, that is, he was like molesting his own daughter,

1044
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,880
and then him and his wife were
part of the board, and other

1045
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,720
board members were part of like professors
that were part of MK ultra like low

1046
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:42,439
Key on that monarch as well,
and a lot of other people that have

1047
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,520
a lot of connections to these other
bigger groups as well. So yeah,

1048
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,520
it's kind of let me create this
whole fought. They should have covered me

1049
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,800
up. Yeah, So I think
that that's when we look at it from

1050
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:57,640
that angle. Like now, think
about today, dude. I mean there's

1051
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,039
like now all tons of people and
I mean, I don't want to over

1052
01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:05,199
exaggerate it, but like, so
aren't there giant groups of people now that

1053
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:12,720
are openly calling for Satanism and fido
stuff to be legal? Well you know

1054
01:14:13,399 --> 01:14:17,039
so so now, so why is
it? What a minute, they're all

1055
01:14:17,039 --> 01:14:20,720
openly doing it. But if you
talked about this as a thing in the

1056
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:25,359
eighties and nineties of a conspiracy theory, right, yeah. And they also

1057
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,880
laid the groundwork too, almost like
these people like Michael Lakeino was a martyr,

1058
01:14:30,039 --> 01:14:32,199
you know what I mean, because
it was just the big bad Christians

1059
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:35,720
and the FBI say it was the
Christian right wingers after him. Yeah yeah,

1060
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:41,000
yeah, yeah yeah. And this
guy was this guy who will admittedly

1061
01:14:42,359 --> 01:14:46,680
lie to you to your faith is
a martyr. But that's the that's such

1062
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:51,119
the inversion of the world too as
well. But you know, it's kind

1063
01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:55,960
of crazy too because when you look
at like the whole concept of Project monarch

1064
01:14:56,039 --> 01:15:00,479
too as well, the concept of
you're trying to take a cocoon a young

1065
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,479
child and then form it, which
sounds like maybe what happened to Richard Ramirez,

1066
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:11,359
but it sounds me like that's especially
with Michael Kino's involvement in Vietnam,

1067
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,479
like he was actively like monarchy,
you know, like he was in the

1068
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:20,079
act of it with his wife doing
this. Because the amount of information that

1069
01:15:20,119 --> 01:15:24,680
they had on the Akino place,
you know, you know, that's one

1070
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:29,319
of the interesting pieces on that the
Holokino thing. When they showed up there,

1071
01:15:29,399 --> 01:15:31,319
they brought the girl there in the
neighborhood, and she actually led them

1072
01:15:31,359 --> 01:15:36,800
to the house where Akina lived.
And what was interesting is Akino owned the

1073
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:41,680
house and then the house next to
it, But they only searched the apartment

1074
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,119
on the top floor. They didn't
search anything else, nor did they even

1075
01:15:45,159 --> 01:15:49,720
search the building next store, and
so there's potential for information here that wasn't

1076
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:57,000
even included. And some of the
prosecution didn't move forward as well because you

1077
01:15:57,039 --> 01:15:59,319
know, like one of the kids
that was molested was two years old and

1078
01:15:59,319 --> 01:16:01,079
he couldn't test five. Well,
big surprise, a two year old is

1079
01:16:01,079 --> 01:16:05,520
not going to be able to testify. But they make things almost so bizarre

1080
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:11,039
sounding, you know, like the
whole activity of it, because there were,

1081
01:16:11,239 --> 01:16:15,479
um one of the girls described it
as that they were cross dressing,

1082
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,760
where Akino and his wife a Keino
was dressing up in women's outfits and then

1083
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:25,000
his wife was dressing up in men's
outfits as part of the ritual. Yeah,

1084
01:16:25,039 --> 01:16:27,760
this is to cloak it, right, so that if anybody talked about

1085
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,880
it, it sounds ridiculous, right, I mean does it's not ridiculous today

1086
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,359
because that's you know what I mean? Yeah, right, But but at

1087
01:16:34,399 --> 01:16:36,239
that time, right, I was
like, oh watch, you know,

1088
01:16:36,399 --> 01:16:41,039
and and then you know, wearing
like oh they they molested me wearing Mickey

1089
01:16:41,039 --> 01:16:44,600
Mouse suits or something like that.
Right, Yeah, that's like a whole

1090
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:50,800
phrase I think. And also,
are you're familiar with Paul Binacci and all

1091
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:57,640
the stuff he said, right,
I'm not. So he's the He's the

1092
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:03,680
one that was um implicated in the
He's one of the young boys that was

1093
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:09,600
involved in all this. I mean, this is known and he was implicated

1094
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:15,760
in the Johnny Gosh situation. And
well you can watch unless they pull it

1095
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,000
off the YouTube, but you can
watch the um like the lawyers getting the

1096
01:17:20,119 --> 01:17:26,279
statements from uh Bonacci, Yeah,
I just found it on YouTube. He

1097
01:17:26,319 --> 01:17:32,920
talks about scandals. Bonacci talks about
a Keino and he's like, yeah,

1098
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,079
they like he was involved. He
was the one doing this to us.

1099
01:17:36,399 --> 01:17:42,279
So that's a that's another now,
I mean that's his claim, right.

1100
01:17:42,279 --> 01:17:45,199
I mean I'm not saying true because
he said it, but yeah, uh

1101
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,840
like he he isn't known Franklin person
and he's saying that, Oh yeah,

1102
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,800
a Keno's involved in this. Didn't
they also do a raid on a Keno?

1103
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,159
But I can't remember what came yea
of what they found in his house,

1104
01:17:58,199 --> 01:18:00,920
Like they found tapes of like some
really weird cults. Well they had

1105
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,039
think ever came out of it.
Neither remember Well that that was the thing

1106
01:18:03,079 --> 01:18:05,600
too, because you stepped away for
a bit. And um, what I

1107
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:10,399
what I had mentioned then was that
they only searched the top floor, which

1108
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,239
was the apartment that he and his
life wife their residence. If you will.

1109
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:16,000
But there was other apartments below.
It was like a three four floor

1110
01:18:16,319 --> 01:18:19,680
house. And then they also the
house next door to it that they never

1111
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:24,079
searched as well. You know,
they they uncovered things too. It's funny

1112
01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:26,960
like when I was reading some of
these things as well, well, when

1113
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:32,159
they found Disney videotapes and it was
like, well, yeah, in the

1114
01:18:32,199 --> 01:18:35,439
occult world, they always like to
say that, you know, there's this

1115
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:43,000
hidden child of Michael and Lilith.
His wife's Lilith, oddly enough, but

1116
01:18:43,359 --> 01:18:45,720
that well, why wouldn't they have
this, But there's never been a kid

1117
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,000
proven to be around, so that
the excuse was like they had this kid

1118
01:18:48,039 --> 01:18:51,600
that they were trying to keep from
out of, you know, the eye

1119
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,640
of society and everything like that,
keep him undercover. And so that was

1120
01:18:55,680 --> 01:19:00,319
the reason why, of course they
had Disney movies for the kid to watch,

1121
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:06,680
when in fact, there's probably something
else going on. Gotcha. It's

1122
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:12,199
insane, man, It's it's insane. And it's the same with it mcmartin's

1123
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,760
story too, with the weird Disney
stuff and the plates that they found,

1124
01:19:16,279 --> 01:19:20,359
you know, underneath the house and
all that talk about that. I'm not

1125
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:26,359
fully familiar with that, Well they
don't. They bulldozed it and they found,

1126
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:31,439
um, you know, pentagrams that
have been drawn on plates. Um

1127
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:36,800
they had, But there was also
like Disney paraphernalia and that kind of stuff

1128
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:42,720
when they were dozing the ground where
the underneath the McMartin preschool, where the

1129
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:48,600
where the tunnels ended up actually being
so yeah, in other words, why

1130
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:53,640
why would there be these things?
You know, when you don't bulldoze this

1131
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,000
place, which is supposedly all good, nothing wrong with it, right,

1132
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,199
why would there be in the in
the ground, you know, plates with

1133
01:20:01,239 --> 01:20:10,600
pentagrams are on on them. Well, obviously, I'm where are you Christians

1134
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:15,079
picking on these poor Satanists? Yeah, Disney has its own tunnel system as

1135
01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:18,119
well. Like it's intense. Like
my brother in law he was doing he

1136
01:20:18,199 --> 01:20:21,000
was djaying over there in La and
he would tell me, He's like,

1137
01:20:21,039 --> 01:20:25,840
yeah, bro, like there's underground
tunnels that just like it's a whole another

1138
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,760
system. It's like a whole another
town in city, and it's like so

1139
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,479
all this stuff is kind of interconnected
and stuff that most people wouldn't know about,

1140
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:32,840
you know what I mean. He
was telling me, He's like,

1141
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,720
yeah, like we just drive underneath, we show up to wherever, and

1142
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,840
just like that's how celebrities get around
in Disneyland as well. And I was

1143
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,359
like what he's like, Yeah,
like if you want low key stuff,

1144
01:20:43,399 --> 01:20:45,960
they just use ass and nothing sauce
about that at all. Yeah, definitely

1145
01:20:46,039 --> 01:20:51,960
not. It was an article ahead. I was just gonna say how many

1146
01:20:53,039 --> 01:20:57,239
child molesters end up working for Disney, like at all levels too, because

1147
01:20:57,279 --> 01:21:01,159
I remember something maybe five years six
years ago where it was a guy who

1148
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:05,960
was a senior VP for one of
the Disney I think it was even like

1149
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:10,840
the studios or something like that,
where he was in meetings and he was

1150
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,439
talking to an FBI agent or something
like that, and he thought was like

1151
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:17,079
a twelve year old girl, you
know. And it's just it's ironic how

1152
01:21:17,119 --> 01:21:23,039
that just keeps reappearing in so many
different ways as part of this. Yeah,

1153
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:28,960
there's an article I have somewhere about
the whole story with Bonacci, but

1154
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,760
I can't find it. There's also
an article you should look up that's it's

1155
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,000
pretty famous now because it's there's not
a whole lot of these, but there

1156
01:21:36,079 --> 01:21:44,319
was a psychologist, psychiatrist, guy
named green Bomb, and he gave a

1157
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,880
lecture at a big famous psychology conference. It was all all these you know,

1158
01:21:48,039 --> 01:21:53,520
so called establishment experts. But he
actually gave a talk in nineteen ninety

1159
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,479
two about state tenant ritual abuse.
It's called the green Bomb speech. You

1160
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,319
should look that up because it's it's
a mainline, you know, psychiatrist guy

1161
01:22:01,399 --> 01:22:06,600
basically talking about all of the stuff
that we're talking about. Monarch. He

1162
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:15,479
talks about UM, the intentional uh
splitting of the pulse personalities through ritual and

1163
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:20,720
electric shock. He talks about triggers, he talks about MKA delta delta,

1164
01:22:21,079 --> 01:22:27,199
he talks about color, color magic. UM. It's a it's an important

1165
01:22:27,239 --> 01:22:30,000
document in this whole story because a
lot of people act like, oh,

1166
01:22:30,079 --> 01:22:31,960
well, you know, if any
of this was true, at some point

1167
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,520
there would have been mainline, you
know, psychiatric people talking about where there

1168
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:41,640
are that's what are you talking about? UM, there's another thing I'm trying

1169
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:48,000
to find. That's a it's a
thing I've found. UM somebody it's I

1170
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:54,520
think her name is Elizabeth Boss and
she wrote a really interesting article on the

1171
01:22:54,560 --> 01:23:00,680
connection between Bonacci and UM. The
Boss or Boss I'm sorry, v or

1172
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:06,760
B. I'm trying to find Vos
Elizabeth Voss. I think, and it's

1173
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:12,600
an important article about Oh the Finders. It might be that one, but

1174
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,399
as it talk about the weird creep
that was grabbing the kids, and I

1175
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:21,840
think there's something about Bonacci and that
there's a lot here with her. I

1176
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:30,560
think it's whatever we find about Bonacci, but um, Paul Bonacci. Her

1177
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,600
thing on Paul Bonacci is the one. That's what I'm what I'm trying to

1178
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:47,920
find um because it gets into how
he was kidnapped. It might be this

1179
01:23:48,000 --> 01:24:00,520
one here at Consortium News. Did
you ever see anyway are you looking at

1180
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,800
her? She's she's got a lot
of good stuff on this if you look

1181
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:10,439
into her articles as something definitely won't
have to dive into another time. Yeah,

1182
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,640
but it's it's related everything we're talking
about. She has good stuff on

1183
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:18,479
this. Did you ever hear though, too, where Akino was actually um

1184
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:24,840
tied potentially like and I don't know, like the that Johnny Gosh, his

1185
01:24:25,079 --> 01:24:32,880
mother claimed that Michael Akino bought Johnny, like somebody came to her and told

1186
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,960
her that that he was involved with
that. Because there was implications too.

1187
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,960
I think that's I think that's what
Bonacci says in that position there. See

1188
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,760
that's interesting too because his mom said
that that and she'd been contacted separately,

1189
01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:49,680
And there was even things at West
Point, you know, the military academy

1190
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:55,279
for the Army, where kids were
molested around the same time, like and

1191
01:24:55,319 --> 01:24:59,520
what are what what are just the
chances of these kids randomly saying that stuff?

1192
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,359
I mean, and then to see
all these levels of the Franklin schools

1193
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:09,359
and but again, you you go
out there, you make sure that the

1194
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:13,479
rituals and things that are occurring,
you take it so over the top so

1195
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,279
that when the kids talk about it, this can't be true, and that

1196
01:25:15,319 --> 01:25:18,600
way it can just easily be discounted. Yeah, and they also, you

1197
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:24,439
know, basically give kids ketamine,
LSD and all kinds of drugs. So

1198
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,680
that's also why it sounds crazy.
Well because there was a recent incident too,

1199
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:39,960
and I can't there was a guy
out in Utah, um David Hamblin

1200
01:25:40,079 --> 01:25:45,279
or something like that who was part
of the LDS church, the recent Mormon

1201
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:51,159
Yeah, yeah, another one.
This is a guy that was he was

1202
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:56,880
a he's a psychologist and he was
a counselor and he was counseling like guys

1203
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,760
on their homosexual tendencies and what he
would say and there, Hey, if

1204
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:04,920
your kids are listening right now,
prepare because like he would he would use

1205
01:26:05,079 --> 01:26:11,039
his semen, which was righteous semen
to help cure these men of their homosexuality.

1206
01:26:11,359 --> 01:26:17,600
But he was engaged in mescaline,
peyote Alaska and things like that to

1207
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:25,119
help cure various different things with all
these different Mormon people. He was molesting

1208
01:26:25,279 --> 01:26:29,840
his daughters, and that's all come
out very clearly, like this has been

1209
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:34,800
proven. And he was also just
with his wife abusing men as well,

1210
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:40,199
like it was just whatever sexually could
go on. And this is very recently,

1211
01:26:40,199 --> 01:26:43,439
this is like twenty twenty two,
and he was just released on bail

1212
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,079
in like March or April of twenty
twenty three. The system works, brother,

1213
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:54,159
and and I guess at this point
too, we're all have to be

1214
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:59,000
sympathetic for him because he probably engaged
in this Satanism as a reaction to the

1215
01:26:59,079 --> 01:27:02,920
Christians that were te he was being
persecuted by the right wingers. Yeah,

1216
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,319
yeah, yeah, yeah, as
much as the Morgans get persecuted by the

1217
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:11,319
right wingers, although I think they
get in that in that yeah, and

1218
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,840
that like uh, you know,
basic criminology too, that you know,

1219
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,039
people that are that get busted and
caught with these things. So suddenly it's

1220
01:27:19,039 --> 01:27:23,560
like, oh, it's not my
fault, right, I'm being persecuted there

1221
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:29,279
the systems like every criminal does this, right, yeah. Man, uh,

1222
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,520
I've never done anything wrong. It
ain't my fault. You know that.

1223
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,800
We were just watching about old movies
where like the villains are all doing

1224
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,079
this, and I'm like, this
is you know, basic criminology, doesn't

1225
01:27:40,079 --> 01:27:43,520
everybody know. They're like so it's
like, well, uh, you know,

1226
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,800
it's not bad because it's not my
fault, because you know. And

1227
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,479
it's weird because the same people who, on the one hand, are like,

1228
01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:54,880
you know, so supposed the Satanic
philosophy of oh, take you know,

1229
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,960
take responsibility for yourself and you you
determine your destiny, you're the captain

1230
01:28:00,079 --> 01:28:01,640
of your destiny, all this stuff, and then it's like it's not my

1231
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,399
fault. The system made me what
I am. It's like, I thought

1232
01:28:05,399 --> 01:28:10,600
you're supposed to take the responsibility,
right yeah yeah yeah, But that's I

1233
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,520
guess part of the idiocracy too as
well. It makes it easy that people

1234
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,800
don't even realize that, right,
you know, they have no they can't

1235
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:23,600
fundamentally see how these things are being
done, Like they know it on one

1236
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,479
level, but they when they look
at they can't see it for what it

1237
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:30,119
is. It's cognitive dissonance. Im
just like, hey, accept responsibility when

1238
01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:33,000
it's good, except when it's not, you know what I mean, shifts

1239
01:28:33,039 --> 01:28:38,920
all blame and then just build a
whole like use all these programs a false

1240
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,119
memories. Not Man, it's not
what you think it is, Like it's

1241
01:28:41,159 --> 01:28:44,760
completely false, like you're remembering it
wrong. So it's just you start gaslighting

1242
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,960
everyone around you. It is.
Yeah, it's the same. It's just

1243
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:51,479
like with Bilderberg doesn't exist, right, and you're crazy. Bilderberg exists,

1244
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:56,119
and so what Bilderberg exists. It's
a good thing and you're bigot if you

1245
01:28:56,119 --> 01:28:59,800
hate it. Yeah, And that
was like going down that rabbit hole too,

1246
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:02,880
just like okay, military necessary complex
and they connected the money wise,

1247
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,039
Okay, who's funding him? Oh, it's going back to the banks.

1248
01:29:05,319 --> 01:29:08,720
But then it's like the fed REZ
and then it's like, well who owns

1249
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,399
the fed res And it's like,
well, these groups don't exist, but

1250
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,079
these people kind of got together on
sheke oil and but it never happened,

1251
01:29:15,119 --> 01:29:19,640
but yeah, it's so insane,
and it's just like, look, it's

1252
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:25,960
clearly are there, Like what Michael, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills?

1253
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,520
Well? Why does I mean?
You know, when I first heard

1254
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:34,279
that John C. Lily says that
he was, you know, testing LSD

1255
01:29:34,399 --> 01:29:36,840
on kids, I didn't believe that. I was like, what that sounds

1256
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:42,760
crazy. And then you get his
unreadable crazy book and he's like, yeah,

1257
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,640
he was testing LSD on kids,
And I'm like, okay, So,

1258
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:50,479
if they're funding Alfred Kinzie to you
know, molest people kids, and

1259
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:55,279
if they're funding John C. Lily
to give LC to kids, like nothing

1260
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,800
like sky's the limit, right,
nothing else is unbelievable, is it?

1261
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,119
Yeah? Yeah, absolutely, you
know. But you know it's funny too,

1262
01:30:01,159 --> 01:30:04,800
like with with Kinsey, right,
like he's portrayed in the media as

1263
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:11,439
some kind of hero when the guy
literally was molesting children, he was causing

1264
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:17,720
orgasms in children. Why why why
is an adult under some sex for science

1265
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:24,680
bro? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's trust the science bro

1266
01:30:25,239 --> 01:30:30,720
exactly who peer reviewed that study us? Yeah, and then that goes into

1267
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,680
another rabbit hole just like oh,
well, we know it's good because it's

1268
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:38,680
peer reviewed based on this study?
What study and then you actually reviewed by

1269
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:43,560
the finders, right, yeah,
I was having that conversation. Well done

1270
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,520
about that, But it's like if
you actually read studies that is based on

1271
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,880
like even just like the whole thing
with like the SSR rise, right,

1272
01:30:50,039 --> 01:30:54,800
like that came out that was debunked, Like a peer reviewed study is like,

1273
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,800
hey, the study that you guys
use like ten years ago that there's

1274
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,600
a chemical and balance in the brain
and sanntona and balance, It's like it's

1275
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,520
shoddy at best and they couldn't replicate
it. So it's like that's why all

1276
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,279
these things aren't working. But then
if you go down the same line of

1277
01:31:08,399 --> 01:31:11,640
like look, speak speaking up here, yeah, speaking up peer of view

1278
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:15,000
for aud This is not really this
is just a little side anecdote that you

1279
01:31:15,079 --> 01:31:18,399
made me think of this that somebody
did a study, don't Somebody on Twitter

1280
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:23,560
like went and did some kind of
spurg study where they went through all the

1281
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:29,399
footnotes of the New Atheists and like
like eighty to nine percent of all the

1282
01:31:29,399 --> 01:31:31,560
footnotes which were supposed to give it
all this academic they were just citing each

1283
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:38,880
other. Basically, their books are
just padding all their ship by sighting themselves

1284
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,399
laundering like that's that's all. Yeah, they just laundered. What was that

1285
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,159
dude? That what he was making
up a bunch of stuff for the peer

1286
01:31:46,159 --> 01:31:49,239
review and it was like a lot
of anti white like stuff, but he

1287
01:31:49,279 --> 01:31:53,640
was doing it on purpose. I
camera his name, that comedia, Yeah,

1288
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,119
and he exposed Yeah, he supposed
that. It's like, look,

1289
01:31:57,159 --> 01:32:00,720
as long as you're going with the
curtain narrative, you can put whatever study

1290
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:05,520
you want and as long as it
has a certain end thing right now,

1291
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:11,199
it's going to get approved. Like
it's insane. Yeah, I'm yeah,

1292
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,079
I've started when when I was in
academia, right, like you know,

1293
01:32:15,119 --> 01:32:17,399
I started noticing a lot of that
fraud and I was talking about I mean,

1294
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,680
I'm not trying to take credit,
like not like I was the first

1295
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:24,960
person saying this, but like in
academia you can see how it works and

1296
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:28,479
how much deception and bullshit it is. And you know, Pete in the

1297
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,880
two thousands, have you talked about
that? People say you're crazy, but

1298
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,560
then you know, eventually it starts
coming out and then a Lancet does.

1299
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,680
It's this whole Chatham House publication where
they're like, oh yeah, by the

1300
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,920
way fifty percent of scientific literature is
fraudulent. That's like, yeah, the

1301
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,640
most prominent journal, the most prominent
medical science of journal in the world,

1302
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,079
says it's all fifty percent of it's
fake. Well, I think the best

1303
01:32:50,119 --> 01:32:54,319
too. And I know you've done
some podcast with James Lindsay, but him

1304
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:59,359
that goes him. Helen pluck Rose
and then Peter Pogosian they did that grievance

1305
01:32:59,359 --> 01:33:04,600
Studies and like they were doing things
based on like the dog rape at um

1306
01:33:05,279 --> 01:33:14,359
Dog Parks and like, yeah,
into the academia and they won awards with

1307
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,079
the outlandish things they came up.
And these are all leftists too. Well,

1308
01:33:18,119 --> 01:33:23,079
I don't even know where they sit
now at times, right because James

1309
01:33:23,119 --> 01:33:26,439
Lindsay he's in a kind of a
weird place. He because he seems to

1310
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:30,439
be a Trump supporter. Now well
he's really yeah, and really what it's

1311
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,159
a classical liberalism, so yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, which

1312
01:33:33,399 --> 01:33:38,600
you know, that's that's all I
used to try to tell people I was

1313
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:43,159
a classical liberal, and now I
tell people I'm a traditionalist because I don't

1314
01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:48,359
think classical liberalism is willing to account
for the metaphysical reality. And you know,

1315
01:33:48,399 --> 01:33:51,680
it seems like James James Lindsay has
kind of flirting with that at times.

1316
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,439
And you see that with a lot
of people who called themselves atheist,

1317
01:33:55,520 --> 01:34:00,359
agnostics whatever, where they're especially they're
like, something dark is happening here,

1318
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,760
and I can't account for it in
the material reality exactly. Yeah, I

1319
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:11,000
mean, you know, classical liberalism
is posited on basically anti metaphysics. I

1320
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,800
mean it comes out of the whole
you know, Enlightenment ethos of denying metaphysics

1321
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:20,920
with Kant and Hume and Locke.
So you know, at a certain point,

1322
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:26,720
I think in people's intellectual, ideological, and ultimately spiritual journey where you

1323
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,239
have to kind of choose at a
fork in the road, right, like,

1324
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,239
how are you going to account for
all this on the forces of the

1325
01:34:33,279 --> 01:34:36,520
market, you know what I mean? Like like, so, I mean,

1326
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:41,640
come on, right, there's obviously
something nasty and spiritual going on with

1327
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,479
all the insane bs that you know
is happening in the world. It just

1328
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:50,159
doesn't that you can't account for it
by freaking you know, Adam Smith's market

1329
01:34:50,199 --> 01:34:55,039
forces stuff. Have you seen Aman
Jabbi at all? Do you know who

1330
01:34:55,079 --> 01:34:58,439
that guy is? He was a
Silicon Valley guy. I don't know that

1331
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,479
he he lives like in Montana now, Like he worked for Sun Microsystems at

1332
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,680
one point, but he's done a
lot of stuff talking about the technology and

1333
01:35:06,079 --> 01:35:09,680
how it's being used and everything like
that. Because this is a guy who

1334
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,920
grew up in India, came over
here and went to Stanford, worked for

1335
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,199
a lot of the Silicon Valley biggies, Like they even wanted him to work

1336
01:35:15,199 --> 01:35:21,800
for Snapchat at one point. But
now he lives up in northern Montana and

1337
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:26,520
renounced his citizenship too. At this
point, I'm not caught. I mean,

1338
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:32,159
he's really smart guy, but he's
he even said that he is now

1339
01:35:32,359 --> 01:35:36,520
recognizing as a person that's an atheist. He grew up as a Sikh and

1340
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,880
he moved away from that, but
like there's something going on here. He

1341
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:45,560
hasn't completely crossed over into accepting that. But it's funny to me, and

1342
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,880
that's sort of like why I came
to orthodoxy my quest for truth. You

1343
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:53,479
know, like as I found some
of the things that you had proposed,

1344
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,920
and you were showing again tragedy and
hope, but then you start exploring a

1345
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,279
lot of these other things, then
you find out too, what's the truth

1346
01:36:00,359 --> 01:36:02,640
the logos? You know, what
is who who? Not just what,

1347
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,840
but who is the logos? You
know, and that's that's a whole other

1348
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:10,359
paradigm. Once you can accept that
there, it's like it makes it so

1349
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:14,840
much easier to see the madness around
you and just be like, oh,

1350
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:19,000
well that's kind of expected, you
know, like you've rejected God, so

1351
01:36:19,119 --> 01:36:25,079
this is what happens. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I think that more

1352
01:36:25,079 --> 01:36:30,000
and more. It's it's really hard
to deny the reality of evil. And

1353
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:34,279
when we see evil, like you
know, the natural conclusion as well,

1354
01:36:34,279 --> 01:36:36,920
there's got to be good, right. I don't mean that. I don't

1355
01:36:38,039 --> 01:36:42,239
mean that like a maniche and nastic
sense, like they're both equivalent forces.

1356
01:36:42,279 --> 01:36:45,960
I mean, evil is a negation
and a privation of the goods. So

1357
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:49,000
it doesn't it doesn't have ontological being, but it does have reality in the

1358
01:36:49,039 --> 01:36:54,600
sense of it being an actual you
know, there is good and there is

1359
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,840
evil. And when people start to
realize that, I think that, you

1360
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,000
know, it forces you to re
examine your paradigm, and for a lot

1361
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,840
of people it is difficult, like
it is hard to have your paradigm crushed,

1362
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:09,000
right, But oh yeah, I
mean it's also good to go through

1363
01:37:09,039 --> 01:37:12,880
though, right, Like for me, you know, one of the reasons

1364
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:17,239
I didn't ever go into military was
in two thousand and three when I started

1365
01:37:17,279 --> 01:37:21,439
looking into you know, the Big
Nine event, so you know that that

1366
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:27,319
that was the first thing that really
interested me in big scale geopolitics. And

1367
01:37:27,319 --> 01:37:30,279
I mean I wasn't very sophisticated.
I was like, I don't know,

1368
01:37:30,359 --> 01:37:35,359
twenty two something like that, somewhere
somewhere in that age age range. But

1369
01:37:35,239 --> 01:37:38,119
it but it did start, you
know, I started thinking, well,

1370
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,479
like what so if this is Muslims
doing this, like why why do they

1371
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,840
want to destroy the World Trade Tower? Like what? Like what why?

1372
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,439
Why is this happening? What does
it mean? And I was raised normy

1373
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,640
GOP you know, military family,
so I just was like, yeah,

1374
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:57,199
Bush is a good guy, right, inn't he a Christian? And that

1375
01:37:57,279 --> 01:37:59,600
got me like that guy? And
then and then I heard about skull and

1376
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:03,399
Bones and so you know, if
you want a classic intelligence, you know,

1377
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:09,439
occult society overlap, like the classic
one is Sculling Bones. So I

1378
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,359
remember hearing about this and it would
come out of the time because if you

1379
01:38:12,359 --> 01:38:15,600
remember, Bush and Kerry were running
and they were both sculling bones. Yeah,

1380
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,720
and I remember that was in It
was even in the news. They

1381
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:21,520
were talking about what the sculling bones? What does that mean? So I

1382
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:25,800
got that Anthony Sutton book on sculling
bones and I started reading that, and

1383
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,840
I'm like, oh, this is
that same conspiracy stuff I've been looking at,

1384
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,359
Like, oh, so they're part
of the same intelligence. This is

1385
01:38:31,399 --> 01:38:34,520
where the OSS and the CIA come
out of there come out And so it's

1386
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:39,560
like, wait a minute. So
if the you know, old school WASP

1387
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:45,039
networks are where we're getting sculling,
where we're getting CIA from, and that's

1388
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:51,159
the you know, Yale, Harvard, Eastern Seaboard elite, Like, I

1389
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:54,680
come on, obviously, these people, these they don't have my best interest,

1390
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,600
right? Why would I think that
these people have my best interests?

1391
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:00,319
And then you learned about like the
rich role that they go to go through

1392
01:39:00,359 --> 01:39:05,119
where they're you know, where they're
getting pissed on and you know, rolling

1393
01:39:05,119 --> 01:39:09,680
in mud and confessing their sins while
they jerk off in a coffin. I

1394
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,680
mean, just what the heck is
this? Right? Like, how how

1395
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:16,960
are these people interested in? These
people seem nuts? So I mean,

1396
01:39:17,039 --> 01:39:19,159
let's not forget scaling bones is what
I'm trying to say, right, this

1397
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:26,439
is a classic exam. Well,
and then you know how many all of

1398
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,720
our institutions are elite schools and everything
like that, Like the people go through

1399
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:35,680
these this is the that's the breeding
grounds for them. Like let's figure out

1400
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,840
if we can allow them to move
up, you know, the idea,

1401
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,960
like it's not that you can't at
a certain level move up, but you're

1402
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,720
only going to reach so many levels, sort of like even with the Masons

1403
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,199
the way they do it right,
you know, like you can become a

1404
01:39:48,199 --> 01:39:54,359
masoning until you prove yourself to us
that like you're willing to compromise yourself.

1405
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:58,079
You may only progress so far.
And that's the same way our society is.

1406
01:39:58,079 --> 01:40:00,279
But it's it's blood do as well, you know obviously, like the

1407
01:40:00,359 --> 01:40:04,680
bushes, you know, like they
come on Jeb Bush, low energy,

1408
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:10,680
Jeb please clap like that guy.
That guy wouldn't be there if he wasn't

1409
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:15,960
for Prescott, you know, like
you you you your family established something for

1410
01:40:15,039 --> 01:40:20,239
you. And I think it is
it's funny to see though the um the

1411
01:40:20,279 --> 01:40:26,039
fakeness. You know that so much
of the the the media of the world

1412
01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:29,800
is a stage for these people.
I mean honestly, like, I couldn't

1413
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:33,079
imagine living their life and having to
go out day in and day out and

1414
01:40:33,239 --> 01:40:36,600
lie the way they have to,
Isn't it weird? Remember remember when Hillary

1415
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:45,640
came to the South Back when she
was running yet my first all the time,

1416
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:55,359
we're just chilling see the rapids,
and people believe that stuff too.

1417
01:40:55,399 --> 01:40:58,039
I mean, but that's what's that's
what's so scary, and that's what's hard

1418
01:40:58,119 --> 01:41:01,720
sometimes because you can see, you
know, how easy it works, and

1419
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,800
you just like, Okay, I
gotta resist doing that because it's so easy

1420
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,960
to manipulate people if I want to, because you can see the framework for

1421
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:13,720
it, you see the matrix for
what it is. Yeah, yeah,

1422
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,720
well right, No, I was
just gonna say, I'm just trying to

1423
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:25,199
think of more examples of you know, the overlap between um yeah, Cole.

1424
01:41:25,279 --> 01:41:29,439
I mean, we've forgotten the classic
example of Crowley himself, because Crowley

1425
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:34,399
was British intelligence. Yeah, he
was a Briti intelligence asset who was basically

1426
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,880
they would kind of use him off
and on for various things. And so

1427
01:41:39,039 --> 01:41:44,359
in World War One he was he
was used to do adjet prop so he

1428
01:41:44,399 --> 01:41:48,039
would go out there and do like
you know, anti German aget prop stuff

1429
01:41:48,079 --> 01:41:56,319
for the Brits. And then he
was used by who was it, Dennis

1430
01:41:56,359 --> 01:42:03,000
Wheatley, who was to British intelligence
a handler guy who was He wrote the

1431
01:42:03,039 --> 01:42:09,279
occult spy fiction novels like the one
that the movie has Christopher Lee in it.

1432
01:42:10,119 --> 01:42:15,760
It's worth watching because the villain and
that mocatta he's actually based on Crowley

1433
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,520
Devil rides out. That's it.
If you watch that movie with chrispher Lee,

1434
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:24,039
you'll notice that the and that's actually
about a satanic cult like mind controlling

1435
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:29,479
young women. Right, So I
recommend watching that because this gives you an

1436
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:34,079
insight into like the modusty run a
British British intelligence as well, because Wheatley

1437
01:42:34,159 --> 01:42:39,680
is the one, together with Maxwell
Knight, who they were. They love

1438
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:44,199
Crowley. I thought he was so
cool um and Maxwell Knight is part of

1439
01:42:44,239 --> 01:42:49,039
the reason why Bonds handlers m It's
also Manswell Cummings because he would write C

1440
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:55,960
as his signature, just like John
did the signature of Double seven Commies would

1441
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:00,359
write C. And then when Fleming
wrote the Bond stuff, he combined that

1442
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:05,479
with Maxwell Knight, who's hints the
mum. But they were again they're they're

1443
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:10,760
all buddies to Crowley. Now,
Ian Fleming didn't know Crowley, he never

1444
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:14,399
met him, but he knew about
him because of this sort of you know

1445
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:19,000
rumor and this the press of him
being the wickedest man in the world and

1446
01:43:19,039 --> 01:43:23,119
being the beast and all this stuff. But but Crowley was, as he

1447
01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:26,439
said, you know, closer to
a lot of these other British intelligence guys

1448
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:29,960
who were using him, and they
used him to to do the go between

1449
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,399
with you know, the Nazis,
to get what the what's his face?

1450
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:36,359
To fly into Scotland and all that. So point being is that you know

1451
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:43,479
that Crowley is Another classic example of
the overlap of intelligence in the occult was

1452
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:51,039
the the the neo Marxist you know, the guys from the Frankfurt school going

1453
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:57,199
down also to Italy where some of
the stuff where Crowley was molesting kids.

1454
01:43:57,279 --> 01:44:01,960
I thought like they were yea selma, Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

1455
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,479
I'm not sure. I wouldn't be
surprised. I'm trying to think. I

1456
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:09,640
can't remember if I've read into frank
was school guys doing that? But I

1457
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,600
wouldn't be surprised, Yeah, I
thought, it's like Marcus and in some

1458
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:15,600
of the other ones, I thought, you know, this is this is

1459
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,000
one of those things I'm digging in
my brain here. It just came to

1460
01:44:18,039 --> 01:44:21,359
me. Yeah, that's that sounds
right. I just don't remember, like

1461
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:25,800
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't quote me on it, please

1462
01:44:26,119 --> 01:44:30,640
descendence of Crowley. Don't don't sue
me, please. Yeah. Like I

1463
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,880
was just reading the other day and
that Spens book on Crowley's intelligence work that

1464
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:39,479
I didn't even realize it, Like
he and Alice Suckley were partying all the

1465
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:41,279
time, like I knew. I
thought I knew they knew each other,

1466
01:44:41,279 --> 01:44:44,000
but I didn't realize they were Like
I didn't know that. Yeah, they

1467
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:48,079
were somewhere. Yeah, they were
tripping and partying together. It's pretty well

1468
01:44:49,079 --> 01:44:57,479
that is so insane. But well
yeah, but that's the thing too,

1469
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:00,079
is like when you first hear it, like it hits that insane thing on

1470
01:45:00,159 --> 01:45:01,560
me. But then I'm like,
no, no, no, that makes

1471
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:05,159
sense, Yeah, that figure doesn't. I mean, I don't know that

1472
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:11,119
Huxley Wood, I don't know that
he was British intelligence. But basically everybody's

1473
01:45:11,159 --> 01:45:15,199
around is so that's all the same
circles. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1474
01:45:15,239 --> 01:45:17,039
yeah, and then Julian his brother. And then there was another brother too

1475
01:45:17,079 --> 01:45:20,319
as well. Right, there's it's
another one. I thought he was a

1476
01:45:20,319 --> 01:45:25,000
brother. He's not. He's like
a cutter or something. But he was

1477
01:45:25,159 --> 01:45:33,920
doing IM culture stuff in Australia.
Yeah, and now that's partly why.

1478
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:38,239
Yeah, I didn't even I've been
reading about IM culture stuff for you know,

1479
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,960
fifteen twenty years, and I just, you know, last year came

1480
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:46,359
across that dude's kind of random small
book on M culture in Australia. That

1481
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:51,079
was a whole other I had no
idea, but basically, like the whole

1482
01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:56,119
Australian establishment is just wicked, dude. I mean they've been wicked for a

1483
01:45:56,199 --> 01:46:00,920
long time. They were doing they
were doing insane stuff in Australia, dude.

1484
01:46:00,279 --> 01:46:04,399
For there was that thing too that
you had found where the guy had

1485
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:11,439
written um in the like early two
thousands or twenty ten or whatever, where

1486
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:14,520
he'd written that thing about like what
he was involved with, like he was

1487
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:19,039
a lower level person involved with the
government. Oh that's that's the sat the

1488
01:46:19,039 --> 01:46:25,359
Satanists from Australia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He died in uh twenty

1489
01:46:26,239 --> 01:46:29,119
somewhere in the in the twenty tens. I thought he died a little bit

1490
01:46:29,199 --> 01:46:32,880
shortly after he had came out with
that, right, And the we're craziest

1491
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,720
part of that is like you know, you're gonna see, you know,

1492
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,279
ship go down in Australia and you'll
know that I'm telling you the truth.

1493
01:46:40,039 --> 01:46:45,600
So like I've always thought, yeah, that's like I think that dude's probably

1494
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:51,520
more mostly legit because he was right. And I mean, obviously you can't

1495
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:56,039
take every one of these occultist satanist
people at their work because there they constantly

1496
01:46:56,079 --> 01:46:59,520
lie and they'll beef up their own
stories in their history. But yeah,

1497
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:00,720
I mean that one seemed to come
true, like he's like, yeah,

1498
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:05,039
we basically, you know, the
majority of the Australian government satanic and there's

1499
01:47:05,039 --> 01:47:09,880
nothing you can do about it.
And you're gonna you're gonna see the nWo

1500
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:15,199
clamped on Australia and you know he
rose that in twenty I remember the exact

1501
01:47:15,279 --> 01:47:18,880
date, twenty eight nine to eleven
somewhere in there. Yeah, yeah,

1502
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,640
yeah, yeah. But by the
way, like if you go looking for

1503
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:26,479
it, it's pretty you have to
use way back, like you can't find

1504
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:30,319
the full asset, like the full
one it's like twenty pages and really crazy.

1505
01:47:30,119 --> 01:47:32,520
Okay, I haven't read the full
one. I've only read Yeah.

1506
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,880
Usually usually what comes up is like
yeah bridge, yeah, like a few

1507
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:40,720
page version, but the full twenty
page one's really well well, even with

1508
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:43,680
like the way Back Machine, they've
been attacking that as well, to like

1509
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:47,359
all this stuff that has been like
documented and save that. It's like,

1510
01:47:47,399 --> 01:47:50,279
I know, within the last couple
of years, they've been attacking some of

1511
01:47:50,319 --> 01:47:55,439
those servers because then it makes it
perfect. It's like we talk about all

1512
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:58,600
these things and they've been well documented. Then you only have a bridge version.

1513
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:00,439
So then it's just like see either
crazy it's only a three or four

1514
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:06,439
page paper like and then it just
works. This is what Richard Richard Groves

1515
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:10,239
a long time ago, like just
watch like the whole Internet is going to

1516
01:48:10,319 --> 01:48:16,520
be like fah Knight fifty one.
All this electronic stuff can be deleted and

1517
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,760
scrubbed. So he was actually Richard
was saying that in like twenty ten,

1518
01:48:21,199 --> 01:48:28,880
Well who's that there's that crazy y
that writes for New York Times and had

1519
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,479
been like part of BuzzFeed. But
she, oh no, she's Washington Post.

1520
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:35,399
She's like that hit woman for the
Washington Post, but like her uncle

1521
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:42,720
owns the archive, the Internet archive. W Yeah, I can't remember her

1522
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:47,520
name. She's the one that went
after the woman for the lives of TikTok

1523
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:54,279
and everything like that, and so
like whenever there's anything that's controversial about her,

1524
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:59,920
she her uncle would remove it from
there because it's they're like a mull

1525
01:49:00,039 --> 01:49:03,439
time millionaire billionaire family and everything like
that. But then um as well,

1526
01:49:04,039 --> 01:49:08,239
like she had a direct line with
Twitter. She was one of those people

1527
01:49:08,319 --> 01:49:16,119
that oh yeah, man man um
because because she's the one that showed up

1528
01:49:16,119 --> 01:49:24,920
the lips of TikTok home uh type
in one arm. Yeah, I can't

1529
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,840
remember because I remember I saw that
as well, and I think you guys

1530
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,640
were the ones who posted it,
but it was talking about any connection to

1531
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,880
that. Yeah, there was a
lot of things being deleted during that time.

1532
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:36,960
For it was like the last two
years, like it's been like pretty

1533
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:43,039
oh it started like Taylor Lorenz Taylor
Taylor, that's who it is. Yeah,

1534
01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:45,159
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's totally her job is

1535
01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:49,000
to play like, oh, they're
so mean to me, and then turn

1536
01:49:49,079 --> 01:49:53,039
around and just go hardcore on people. And then also, hey, my

1537
01:49:53,159 --> 01:50:00,319
uncle will eliminate this from the Internet
archive because he holds it. Wo Yeah,

1538
01:50:00,319 --> 01:50:03,079
man, it's it's it's so insane. Again, the the web is

1539
01:50:03,079 --> 01:50:10,880
small, you know, like they're
they're all connected to one another, right,

1540
01:50:11,039 --> 01:50:15,800
go up, it's it's it's it's
actually a fairly small click you know

1541
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,159
that call a lot of the shots. I mean, I don't know that.

1542
01:50:17,159 --> 01:50:20,479
I'm not saying they run the whole
world, but um, yeah,

1543
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:25,840
this is basically the you know,
kissing your group, the roth coop managerial

1544
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:30,000
class. And then there's like the
inner you know, super super rich families

1545
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:34,000
so pretty transparent. It's not it's
not that hard to figure that out,

1546
01:50:34,079 --> 01:50:40,159
but yeah, I mean it's it's
weird that so much information can kind of

1547
01:50:40,199 --> 01:50:44,680
be in everybody's face, hidden in
plain sight, but you still have so

1548
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,640
many normies and people that can't They
just can't come to grips with it.

1549
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:51,720
And I think deep down it's like
they can't go there because they know that

1550
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:57,600
it would collapse their whole made up
paradigm. And and that that theory,

1551
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,520
I think is why many people,
you know won't go these directions. Well,

1552
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,800
yeah, it hurts the ego to
face that reality, Like you've talked

1553
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:08,560
about before, and you just it's
hard to do. And that's that's also

1554
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,600
I think one of the strengths of
Orthodoxy again, you know, not to

1555
01:51:12,039 --> 01:51:15,399
do. I'm not trying to be
an Orthodox Bible beater here, but I

1556
01:51:15,399 --> 01:51:17,520
mean it's the truth, you know, that's part of why I found my

1557
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:24,920
way to where I am. Absolutely
yeah, I mean, is there any

1558
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:30,399
more I'm not trying to change subject. I'm just trying to think of occult

1559
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:39,000
um overlaps with you could probably go
back to even like the Templars. I

1560
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,800
mean, it's hard to know exactly
what the Templars. I'm not trying to

1561
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:45,720
change the subject, but no,
no, no, just think like overlaps

1562
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,880
of I mean, something happened with
the Templars. I don't really know what

1563
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:54,000
it was, but you know,
they definitely had some kind of alteration or

1564
01:51:54,079 --> 01:52:00,920
change which led to them getting you
know, excommunicated, attacked by you know,

1565
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:05,479
the Roman Calolic Council at that time
as a council of the end I

1566
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:10,960
think, and the King of France
and the papacy. Right obviously they flipped

1567
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:14,119
and turned the Templars. And then
you do have this tradition of some kind

1568
01:52:14,119 --> 01:52:19,800
of Gnostic philosophy amongst the Templars and
the idea of these um. I don't

1569
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:25,640
know what to call it, but
I've always thought that there's something going on

1570
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:32,039
with that in regard to remember Bravick
yep, I remember remember Bravic wearing all

1571
01:52:32,039 --> 01:52:38,439
his Templar garb and manifesto. I
mean he holds like the second highest record

1572
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:44,079
right now, right probably, Yeah, but that he made a big deal

1573
01:52:44,119 --> 01:52:46,680
out of, like, oh,
I'm a templar and you know, my

1574
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:53,840
Masonic degrees of being a templar has
equipped me to say Western civilization and you

1575
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:58,000
remember all that stuff. Yeah,
that wasn't uh where was it. I

1576
01:52:58,079 --> 01:53:00,000
wasn't a Sweden, but it was
somewhere up in that yeah, that reason.

1577
01:53:00,119 --> 01:53:04,239
Yeah, But I mean I think
there's something going on with that.

1578
01:53:04,399 --> 01:53:12,159
I mean, I mean, a
high level Masonic dude saying that he's commissioned

1579
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:15,279
to say civil Western civilization as a
templar. I mean, come on.

1580
01:53:15,359 --> 01:53:16,840
And nobody made a big deal about
I mean, you know, people like

1581
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:20,960
Alex were talking about it, but
like the rest of you know, nobody

1582
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:29,159
even thought to inquire into the templar
claims and all that. Um was it?

1583
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:36,039
Colby, one of the Roman Catholic
CIA directors. It might have been

1584
01:53:36,119 --> 01:53:43,479
Casey, maybe William Casey, right, like they they were talking about some

1585
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:46,199
of their elite guys as Templars.
You know what I'm talking about. I've

1586
01:53:46,239 --> 01:53:50,159
heard, but it's been a minute
since I've gone down that route. Because

1587
01:53:50,319 --> 01:53:56,680
that I connected the same thing with
within some certain like the crossover between Masons

1588
01:53:56,720 --> 01:54:00,399
and Templars, which was so the
thing was in Norway, I actually with

1589
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:04,119
Brevic. Yeah. Yeah. And
the other thing that oddly kept coming up

1590
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:08,279
too was that every time, like
some big events like that were happening,

1591
01:54:08,359 --> 01:54:13,279
there was always a lodge like fairly
oddly close to a lot of these places,

1592
01:54:13,399 --> 01:54:17,279
which was like another thing too,
is like they're probably operating basis like

1593
01:54:17,359 --> 01:54:21,479
you know, allegedly right and just
but it always seemed just kind of coincidentally

1594
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:28,239
that it's always around a lodge.
Yeah. Well, And the reason that's

1595
01:54:28,279 --> 01:54:31,319
relevant is that when you go into
the history of you know, Gladio and

1596
01:54:31,359 --> 01:54:34,000
all that kind of stuff. And
by the way, when I critique Gladio

1597
01:54:34,039 --> 01:54:38,000
doesn't mean I'm a communist. Every
time I say that, people oh communist,

1598
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:42,560
So like, so I can't talk
about the alliance of you know,

1599
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:47,199
papacy and organized crime in the CIA
without being a Soviet. I mean,

1600
01:54:47,239 --> 01:54:50,880
it's just crazy, but I mean
it shows the you know, the that

1601
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:57,079
level of corruption because Casey was involved
in this too, because he was he

1602
01:54:57,159 --> 01:55:01,800
was like a hardcore trad cat u
and he was at Fordham, right,

1603
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:05,680
And this is why Fordham is Yeah, this is why Fordham is one of

1604
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:13,520
these aets pushing all this like you
know, crazy the humanist you know Ukraine

1605
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:18,119
schism stuff. Is that that's a
long time jesuit see anything. Well,

1606
01:55:18,319 --> 01:55:25,600
but that's what's interesting though too,
because going back to John d that's what

1607
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:30,359
he said that the angels that he
was talking to, the demons were saying

1608
01:55:30,399 --> 01:55:35,760
that they were going to create an
abrahammot a single Abrahamic religion, which we're

1609
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:41,720
starting to see. Was it ua
starting to come to Acumunists. Yeah,

1610
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,760
it's like an Acumanist exactly. Yeah, Cumanism. Actually people don't know this.

1611
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:51,039
It actually comes out of Renaissance neoplatonism. Yeah. People think that,

1612
01:55:51,079 --> 01:55:55,439
Oh, it's like a you know, twentieth nineteen hundreds of liberal movement.

1613
01:55:55,479 --> 01:55:59,439
I mean, you can trace the
modern Acumanist movement to the money the Rockfeller

1614
01:55:59,439 --> 01:56:04,720
family wanted sent but actually you go
back further to the ideological predecessors to a

1615
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:10,600
Cumanism, and it goes back to
Renaissance magic, Renaissance occultism, because in

1616
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:16,279
the Renaissance you had a lot of
these figures like the Medici's Pico della Mirandola

1617
01:56:16,399 --> 01:56:19,319
and these characters they're actually pushing four
there's a bunch of them, actually,

1618
01:56:19,359 --> 01:56:23,239
Lorenzo, I don't think no,
I think Valla is doing that that.

1619
01:56:23,319 --> 01:56:27,239
If you read a. Hoffman's book
Occult Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, he

1620
01:56:27,239 --> 01:56:31,359
actually traces all of those Renaissance guys
that were pushing a proto Acumanism. And

1621
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:36,119
you're absolutely right. That's why John
D. Because he's John D's into Renaissance

1622
01:56:36,199 --> 01:56:41,199
magic stuff, right, That's why
John is saying that, Yeah, through

1623
01:56:42,199 --> 01:56:45,239
neoplatonism and all these kinds of things, we can create a new monotheistic super

1624
01:56:45,439 --> 01:56:54,960
religion more to control people and just
kind of you have them under that same

1625
01:56:55,079 --> 01:57:00,640
umbrella. That just yeah, man, like I don't know how like just

1626
01:57:01,159 --> 01:57:03,960
it's you said it best, you
know what I mean, out of all

1627
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:08,319
people, it's just like you kind
of start from one place and you start

1628
01:57:08,479 --> 01:57:12,840
understanding where how these people get into
control, how they get into positions,

1629
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,239
what groups are they in, and
you follow and trace the money in it's

1630
01:57:15,279 --> 01:57:18,520
just like it you keep following and
then it all kind of adds up.

1631
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:23,239
But yeah, it once you see
the big picture and you peek behind that

1632
01:57:23,279 --> 01:57:26,760
curtain, it's just like you have
to understand that all these things are in

1633
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:30,760
place for that reason. So they
this is how we've gotten this far through

1634
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:34,680
all these like this society, the
Secret Society's skull and bones. But it's

1635
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:39,560
all linked back to that other metaphysical
thing that people don't understand, the good

1636
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:45,079
versus Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think following the money is always good

1637
01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:47,720
for kind of the geopolitical level of
stuff. But you can also follow the

1638
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:51,479
ideology, right, Following the ideology
will take you to what you're talking about,

1639
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:55,960
like the how do we get to
where we are in terms of the

1640
01:57:56,079 --> 01:57:59,640
thinking. I mean, it's not
all it's not merely money. I'm not

1641
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:02,319
seeing saying that, but a lot
of people just they restrict themselves to thinking

1642
01:58:02,359 --> 01:58:05,039
that, oh, it's all just
monument power and they just want oil,

1643
01:58:05,119 --> 01:58:09,359
and I mean that is part of
it, but you know, he goes

1644
01:58:09,399 --> 01:58:13,720
beyond that because it's not just a
matter of controlling resources. It's also a

1645
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,319
notion of pushing ideology. You know. I mean when the when the US

1646
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:24,800
pushes ideology through soft power, right, it's doing that tom to prime the

1647
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:29,319
pump and warm people up to the
energy control. That's true like that,

1648
01:58:29,439 --> 01:58:31,279
you know, but it's not just
that. It's also a culture or two,

1649
01:58:31,359 --> 01:58:35,560
right, Like the US has to
the US has to push Americanism so

1650
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:41,960
that people are willing to have it, so they want subway and abortion and

1651
01:58:42,039 --> 01:58:45,359
pepsi. Right, Yeah, and
even like going back to Michael Keno,

1652
01:58:45,439 --> 01:58:48,920
he says that openly too, like
full military tactics, knowing your enemy policies,

1653
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:55,359
they're structured their politics, religion and
devising a plant infiltrates like and subverting

1654
01:58:55,399 --> 01:58:59,800
completely destroy that and use to appease
US interests. And it's like they say

1655
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:01,840
it. It's like, yeah,
we're gonna take over everything. We're gonna

1656
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:06,840
make it seem like it's your idea
that you want it by continuously blasting it

1657
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:13,199
on TV commercials, movies, and
it's just a slow destruction of like what

1658
01:59:13,279 --> 01:59:16,159
you think is normal by constantly putting
in your face. And it's like and

1659
01:59:16,279 --> 01:59:18,960
no, people say, like the
slippery slope doesn't exist, but it's like

1660
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:23,359
you add a little bit of elements
and you normalize it little by little to

1661
01:59:23,439 --> 01:59:27,760
eventually like now it's gotten to a
point that it's like to where we are

1662
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:30,279
now. But yeah, they've openly
admitted they're going to do all these things.

1663
01:59:30,279 --> 01:59:34,439
And then even just the what was
it they send money we go overseas

1664
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:43,039
to the women's liberation movement in Afghanistan
or Iran and like transgenders studies for Lebanese

1665
01:59:43,039 --> 01:59:46,399
women and stuff like you're like,
like, what is this even doing five

1666
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:54,479
thousand dollars for somebody in Pakistan if
they speak English and their transgender and like

1667
01:59:54,520 --> 02:00:00,920
the that Biden proposed, and it's
like back that they you would hear and

1668
02:00:00,199 --> 02:00:03,479
someone made a meme of it where
it's like some Muslim dudes like America's the

1669
02:00:04,039 --> 02:00:06,960
Grace saying and you're like nah,
And then now it's like, actually you

1670
02:00:08,039 --> 02:00:13,000
might have a point, like not
that they're still right in their ideology,

1671
02:00:13,079 --> 02:00:15,880
but when it comes to at least
that aspect is just like and even for

1672
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:19,000
me being overseas, there's a lot
of stuff that like I struggled with for

1673
02:00:19,039 --> 02:00:24,399
a long time because it's like there's
a huge like pedophilia issue going on in

1674
02:00:24,439 --> 02:00:28,079
Afghanistan, especially when it comes to
like they have things called Chai boys where

1675
02:00:28,079 --> 02:00:31,239
they come bring ut but they're also
for entertainment. And it's like we knew

1676
02:00:31,239 --> 02:00:35,680
it was happening, but our superiors, the tellers, you can't do anything

1677
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:39,880
about it. I'm like, what, Like what do you mean? Bro?

1678
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:41,479
I thought we are the good guys
here? What are we doing?

1679
02:00:42,159 --> 02:00:45,960
And yeah, it you become disillusion
and like that for me was already kind

1680
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,399
of like I'm like, man,
what are we really doing here? But

1681
02:00:48,479 --> 02:00:51,560
well, we're gonna got to a
point where we were giving the CIA was

1682
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:58,520
giving viagra to war lords that they
could continue to rape more little boys.

1683
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:02,239
Like that's the point we reached an
Afghanistan. Are you serious? I've never

1684
02:01:02,239 --> 02:01:05,680
heard yeah yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah yeah yeah. Like I think starting

1685
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:10,720
around like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, they were giving the little Blue pill

1686
02:01:11,119 --> 02:01:14,399
to the warlords over there just so
they could rate more boys. I mean,

1687
02:01:14,479 --> 02:01:16,479
I honestly wouldn't be surprised because it's
like they would try to offer him

1688
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:23,399
up to us, or they would
try to buy like like like military members.

1689
02:01:23,399 --> 02:01:25,840
Like we used to make a joke, like Saally, like, because

1690
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:29,520
we had this dude. He was
like eighteen nineteen, like real young kid.

1691
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:31,600
He looked like a porcelain dawn.
And then like the Afghan dudes were

1692
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:33,760
like eyeballing him and we're like,
yo, we'll trade you him for a

1693
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:38,880
goat and they're like okay, whoa, Like I felt bad. We were

1694
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:41,359
joking, but then they took it
like real serious, like okay, we'll

1695
02:01:41,399 --> 02:01:42,880
go get it. And we're like
no, no, no, no,

1696
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:44,960
no, no, no, niche
stuff. Bro, it's a joke.

1697
02:01:45,479 --> 02:01:47,439
And have you seen those old have
you seen those old clips? I'll choose

1698
02:01:47,439 --> 02:01:51,399
to blame all the time of the
gay bomb. I think. So it's

1699
02:01:51,399 --> 02:01:55,920
been a minute, so this is
some kind of bio. I mean,

1700
02:01:55,960 --> 02:01:58,560
I don't know if it's completely made
up or if they really did develop some

1701
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:00,800
kind of biowarfare component, but they
were talking about dropping the gay bomb on

1702
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:09,159
so dominant troops. I'm seriously,
I remember that. I think miss they

1703
02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:11,720
missed the rack and they hit us, or like they actually missed it.

1704
02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:15,319
But no, look it up there. There's actually mainstream news reports about the

1705
02:02:15,359 --> 02:02:21,319
Pentagon developing um some kind of biowarfare
agent that they they bought or hoped would

1706
02:02:21,319 --> 02:02:27,560
like turn all of them soldiers gay. They would all, Yeah, that's

1707
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:31,560
a it's a real report. Well, they even have like an operation that

1708
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:34,920
they did in Georgia and that posted
the other day where it's like they got

1709
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:40,399
a bunch of mosquitoes like over like
two hundred thousand female mosquitoes that were non

1710
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:45,600
infected with like yellow fever to see
if like you could deploy them and if

1711
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:48,760
they would survive to infect the whole
area. And this is like military there's

1712
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:54,399
a military operation by the CBR and
E the chemical warfare like portion of the

1713
02:02:54,439 --> 02:02:58,760
house and they dropped it in Georgia
and they were trying to see if they

1714
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:01,000
would survive. And it's like yeah, like someone around two hundred thousand,

1715
02:03:01,359 --> 02:03:04,560
uh survived or something like that.
But yeah, they were at time like

1716
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:10,239
it was like and then what in
Florida like two years ago they released those

1717
02:03:10,279 --> 02:03:15,319
mosquitoes as well like that. Yeah, remember Bill Gates, Bill guys did

1718
02:03:15,319 --> 02:03:16,920
that Ted talk where you where you
let them lose. Right by the way,

1719
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,800
if you type if you type into
YouTube the Pentagon gay bomb, it

1720
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:26,079
comes up in the our AP archives. Yeah, you gotta look it up,

1721
02:03:26,359 --> 02:03:29,920
dude, I'm convinced they dropped it
on our country the water. You

1722
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:34,439
know what I mean, Well,
you know that's just that's just what they

1723
02:03:34,479 --> 02:03:39,279
dropped it on America's water, awkwifers
exactly. This is why it's good.

1724
02:03:43,399 --> 02:03:45,920
Why aren't you eating the bugs yet? Are you still eating? That's bad?

1725
02:03:46,159 --> 02:03:49,279
Bro? That Austin was so funny. So like I was up there.

1726
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:53,079
I don't know if you remember me, but I remember. Yeah,

1727
02:03:53,159 --> 02:03:55,880
yeah, so it was funny just
kind of seeing all that I will not

1728
02:03:55,960 --> 02:04:00,359
eat the bugs, like, yeah, they didn't use Did you watch the

1729
02:04:00,399 --> 02:04:05,399
Tucker documentary show. I didn't see
it come out. Uh, well it's

1730
02:04:05,439 --> 02:04:09,840
it's like it's find a paywall.
But I'll send it to you because I

1731
02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:12,560
found a copy of it that I
didn't do it. Somebody put it up

1732
02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:15,079
on rumble. I'll send it to
you. But oh cool, Yeah,

1733
02:04:15,199 --> 02:04:19,239
yeah, they he Scooter filmed so
much and it got scaled down to like

1734
02:04:20,319 --> 02:04:23,239
I mean, I'm not bitching,
like I'm happy to be in it,

1735
02:04:23,319 --> 02:04:26,159
but they's got scaled in at down
like nine or ten minutes. I mean,

1736
02:04:26,159 --> 02:04:29,239
he had filmed like hours of stuff. But so basically nothing from the

1737
02:04:29,319 --> 02:04:32,600
live event made it except for the
chance, like the chanting of the I

1738
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:36,199
will not use the bucks that that
made it in there. But yeah,

1739
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:40,760
that's awesome. Did you see the
clip on me as Klaus? That was

1740
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:45,159
a funny ya. And you know
what's funny about that is that there was

1741
02:04:45,239 --> 02:04:50,039
like that was like at least two
hours of content that we filmed that day

1742
02:04:50,039 --> 02:04:54,159
at the park. There were so
many funny reactions that didn't make it into

1743
02:04:54,159 --> 02:04:58,560
the into the final cut. But
I wish to maybe like send it to

1744
02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:00,119
you so you can kind of do
like your own release, like you know,

1745
02:05:01,479 --> 02:05:08,840
he can't. It's all unby Fox. So but so yeah, I'm

1746
02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:13,239
only able to get away with I
think posting like the little clips from the

1747
02:05:13,279 --> 02:05:17,000
promos, so gotcha. I don't
think they care about the promo stuff,

1748
02:05:17,039 --> 02:05:20,680
but yeah, you got Yeah,
there were so many funny reactions that we

1749
02:05:20,720 --> 02:05:26,359
didn't that that didn't make him in
there. That Ava what is her name,

1750
02:05:26,399 --> 02:05:34,399
That hottie, that hottie smart Dutch
woman. Yea yeah, and she's

1751
02:05:34,439 --> 02:05:41,159
like a trad calf now too,
right, like she just joyed up that

1752
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:43,840
tried. I tried to reach out
to her to do an interview, and

1753
02:05:44,079 --> 02:05:45,439
uh, she was like yeah,
I'll do it. And then she goes

1754
02:05:45,479 --> 02:05:47,840
to me, so I don't think
she wants to say she heard that.

1755
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:56,680
She probably saw the track cat Debates
and decided note she saw you destroy Nick

1756
02:05:56,760 --> 02:06:01,880
flint Is and she's like, no, every It's funny because I get every

1757
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:05,359
now and then I'll get people that
ghost me and I'm like, like the

1758
02:06:05,479 --> 02:06:08,960
kick Code News was like they reached
out and they're like, let's do an

1759
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:12,119
interview, and I'm like, are
you sure. They're like yeah, and

1760
02:06:12,199 --> 02:06:15,279
then I think they looked more into
what I talk about, and then I

1761
02:06:15,359 --> 02:06:17,840
never heard that you shouldn't tell him
anything. Next time, I'm like,

1762
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:20,279
oh, yeah, sure here,
let's give you a day, and then

1763
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:25,479
by that time it'll be too late. Like yeah, yeah, I think

1764
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:27,720
a lot of people, Yeah,
they reach out and then they don't really

1765
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,359
know what all else we talk about. It's weird too, because you never

1766
02:06:30,439 --> 02:06:32,880
know what they're seeing. Like they
might see me, you know, acting

1767
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:39,039
completely retarded in a clip and like
I was just gonna talk about economics stuff.

1768
02:06:39,039 --> 02:06:44,600
He's like he's acting like a retard
he's asking for but actually I like

1769
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:47,399
him. It's fun that way.
Yeah. Yeah, you gotta keep it

1770
02:06:47,439 --> 02:06:51,760
balanced because it's not like it's just
if it's yeah, it's too much,

1771
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:55,079
and people will just well even like
you said, it's like, yeah,

1772
02:06:55,079 --> 02:06:58,319
sometimes you get bored and it's like
sometimes you just gotta go off on a

1773
02:06:58,319 --> 02:07:03,159
tangent. Well, right, dad, we've gone for as do you want

1774
02:07:03,199 --> 02:07:06,319
to start? Can we wind it
down here a bit too much? Yeah?

1775
02:07:06,319 --> 02:07:11,920
That's good? Well man, No, I mean I'd love to do

1776
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,880
another one of these in the future. Man, this has been great,

1777
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:18,520
like finally talking to you after a
few years of uh just stending messages back

1778
02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:21,960
and forth and you sharing our memes
and you know. It's funny too,

1779
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:27,880
because I can't much anymore because I
only log in through the browser. I

1780
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:30,840
don't even log in through the app
anymore. After that last time I got

1781
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:35,359
zapped, I don't even do that. I'm limiting my exposure to apps.

1782
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:42,000
M Yeah, I'm actually thinking about
we we were thinking about actually going back

1783
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:45,119
to flip phones because I'm thinking,
you know, do I actually need this

1784
02:07:45,199 --> 02:07:48,239
cell phone with me at all time? Not really? Yeah, most of

1785
02:07:48,239 --> 02:07:51,840
what I do, I would prefer
actually to like have a designated time to

1786
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:56,880
do it during the day on the
computer and then get rid of the stupid

1787
02:07:56,880 --> 02:08:00,520
ass, you know. Flip phone, I mean a smartphone. Yes,

1788
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:03,680
yeah, there's like actually there's a
bunch of people at my church that have

1789
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:07,000
shifted over to the dumb phones.
You know. Interesting. Yeah, Jamie,

1790
02:08:07,079 --> 02:08:09,640
I've been talking about doing that.
I think we may do it because

1791
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:13,119
I was thinking of having that as
my primary, the dumb phone. And

1792
02:08:13,199 --> 02:08:16,960
like again, like there may be
a certain time of day because like for

1793
02:08:16,039 --> 02:08:20,199
some of the work I do to
log into things at times, I've got

1794
02:08:20,199 --> 02:08:22,600
to have that authenticator and so I
have to have a phone. But yeah,

1795
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:26,880
you know I can have it exclusively
for that and working hours done.

1796
02:08:26,399 --> 02:08:31,279
Yeah yeah, and even then just
having the smartphone for like Wi Fi something

1797
02:08:31,279 --> 02:08:33,399
whenever, and you know, if
you're not really ever using well if you're

1798
02:08:33,439 --> 02:08:35,840
at home or whatever. But yeah, I've been I have a dumb phone.

1799
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:41,680
Then I probably got to go dig
out of my garage. But yeah,

1800
02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:46,239
so that's something I didn't think about. Like so if I don't have

1801
02:08:46,319 --> 02:08:48,880
a cell phone number attached to the
authenticator, like, is that going to

1802
02:08:50,079 --> 02:08:54,159
screw up everything? I don't know. I mean, if you've got two

1803
02:08:54,199 --> 02:08:56,479
factor on, you've got to have
some way to do the two factor You

1804
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:58,880
might be able to do it,
like through email, because you know,

1805
02:08:58,159 --> 02:09:01,079
it's like some of the two actor
authentication. You could have an email a

1806
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:05,640
possibly doing that way, but if
you've got it set up just to be

1807
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:07,359
like but the Google authenticator, I
don't know that you can do that online.

1808
02:09:07,399 --> 02:09:09,640
I think you have to do that
to the phone, that's right,

1809
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:15,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they
they're always going to find a way to

1810
02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:20,439
kind of make you part of the
system, aren't they, unless I get

1811
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:24,520
like the authenticator through your computer,
like I know, which still is kind

1812
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:28,319
of like trash, but it's not
on your phone, you know what I

1813
02:09:28,359 --> 02:09:31,399
mean. I think they have an
app like out as well, maybe for

1814
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:35,680
Mac. I'm not one hundred percent
sure. It's been a minute since I've

1815
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:39,279
revisited that, because it's on my
phone as well. That's what I use

1816
02:09:39,479 --> 02:09:46,079
for like social media. Yeah,
I'm sure there's some way to figure out

1817
02:09:46,079 --> 02:09:50,000
how to get around that stop doing
it. But I mean you could turn

1818
02:09:50,159 --> 02:09:52,800
you could turn the two factor and
stuff off, or you can switch it

1819
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:56,840
like you said to to email or
something like that. But yeah, so

1820
02:09:56,880 --> 02:10:01,319
it's always a giant hassle all this
stuff for sure. Man. All right,

1821
02:10:01,319 --> 02:10:05,159
well, thank you for taking the
time today, man, I mean,

1822
02:10:05,199 --> 02:10:07,920
really, I mean, definitely appreciate
it, man, And you know,

1823
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:09,960
sometime down the road, I'd love
to do another one. Yeah,

1824
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:13,000
we should. I mean, I
knew we would have a good conversation.

1825
02:10:13,039 --> 02:10:15,880
You guys are sharp and uh,
you know, you know the lay of

1826
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:18,720
the lamb when it comes to geopolitics
and what's going on in there. So

1827
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:22,359
thank you guys for having me.
Oh no, man, Glory to God.

1828
02:10:22,399 --> 02:10:24,279
Thank you. Yeah, thank you, b Yeah, yeah, we

1829
02:10:24,359 --> 02:10:28,680
really appreciate it. Awesome man.
Yeah, send me this when it's up

1830
02:10:28,720 --> 02:10:31,680
and I'll reshare it if you don't
mind. Yeah, oh definitely, Yeah,

1831
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:35,159
definitely, bro. And if can
I plug my stuff? Yeah,

1832
02:10:35,199 --> 02:10:39,479
please go, yeah, please please
plug plug everything. Yeah. So I'll

1833
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:43,319
try not to do this. It's
too long and it's annoying people rambled by

1834
02:10:43,319 --> 02:10:46,079
the plugs. So basically, you
can follow me at Jason Elsis dot com.

1835
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My website. The shop is there, the members of sections there.

1836
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You can subscribe for pennies on the
dollar. We have a big live event

1837
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coming up due the third or fourth
in Nashville. You can get tickets to

1838
02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:01,680
the website. Under every host is
the list of live events. We got

1839
02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:07,720
July six with Jamie Kennedy five hours
of finanigans in Van NAI's Airport, LA.

1840
02:11:07,279 --> 02:11:11,880
We've got a comic con where I'll
be doing a panel speaking in Kentucky.

1841
02:11:13,119 --> 02:11:16,319
We got an Orthodox pilgrimage, So
if people are interested in going to

1842
02:11:16,079 --> 02:11:22,319
Italy on an Orthodox Italy pilgrimage with
me and my priest father Vladimir, you

1843
02:11:22,359 --> 02:11:28,039
can get information on that at the
website or at his website which is linked

1844
02:11:28,039 --> 02:11:31,720
on all my social media. Hopefully
if you guys want to, you guys

1845
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:33,000
can come to that. I'll give
you the link and you can share that

1846
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too, if anybody's interested in I
think it's ten fourteen days in Italy going

1847
02:11:39,159 --> 02:11:48,640
to like ten different Orthodox so basically
it's Orthodox Christianity before papism in Italy.

1848
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:50,600
Or we'll be going to all the
sites that would be relevant to that.

1849
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:54,239
We'll also do some you know,
like the Vatican and that kind of stuff.

1850
02:11:54,239 --> 02:11:58,720
But it's gonna be a really cool
pilgrimage. He's trying to keep the

1851
02:11:58,720 --> 02:12:01,239
costs down and keep it nice.
So if you guys are interested in that,

1852
02:12:01,279 --> 02:12:05,159
it's November five to eighteen. If
anybody wants to come to that,

1853
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:09,640
information is at my website. Um
yeah, that's it awesome, great man.

1854
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:13,880
All right, and thanks again and
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