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Oh man, Wow, every single
story. I gotta tell you, we

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honor our veterans every single Wednesday.
Here with Wednesday's Hero brought to you by

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a horse Soldier bourbon founded by members
of US Special Forces ODA five ninety five,

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first feet on the ground in Afghanistan
after nine to eleven, and every

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bottle forged in fire as the as
it's pressed by the mold from the steel

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of the original twin towers. Plus
did I mentioned awarded double gold? It's

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the best damn bourbon you have.
And one of the horse Soldiers is actually

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in the room with us in the
studio. It's my dear friend Bob pennyfe

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How you doing, Bob? You
look terrific, man, look at you.

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Thanks Joy had I appreciate you.
So you're in town for this week.

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By the way, if I know
that Father's Day is in June,

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but you what the perfect Father's Day
gift? Get it now? I'm talking

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about an autograph bottle from one of
the hosts Horse Soldiers. Bob's going to

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be out. I'm going to be
with him tonight. As a matter of

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fact, he will be at three
pm to five pm at Fort Knox.

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I guess on base signing bottles and
then join Bob and myself tonight from six

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thirty eight thirty at Kroger in Middletown
Thursday tomorrow, who have just one stop

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and that's Total Wine in the Paddocks
from four pm till six pm and then

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Evergreen Liquor tomorrow and Prospect four pm
to six pm. But let's get right

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to it, Bob, Yeah,
go ahead. Let's make sure people buy

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two bottles, one to drink and
one to sit on the shelf. No,

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that's what I did. Yeah,
everyone wants to buy a bottle and

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let it sit there. You have
to enjoy this. Such a good bourbon.

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Yeah, it really is. It
really is such a great bourbon.

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And we were, my wife and
I were somewhat bourbon novice until we got

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with you guys, and I got
to tell you it's so enjoyable. It's

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such a good bourbon and double Gold
right, and we'd like to say it

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doesn't suck. It doesn't. It
doesn't, it doesn't suck. Uh.

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You want to come out and meet
Bob and again buy your bottles. Yeah,

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Double Gold. Let's talk about the
horse soldiers. You do? Are

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you still doing your you would do
things called whiskey and war talk or whiskey

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and war stories. So you're still
doing that. But let's go ahead and

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go back to the beginning because you're
the detachment commander at the time. We're

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going back to September tenth, before
nine to eleven. You're actually here in

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Kentucky and you in a group,
you go out on an exercise in the

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Cumberland River. It's quite cold and
coming back you almost get taken out by

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a barge, right or I know
that's is that right? Did we talked?

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We didn't talk about this one,
but I do my research, Bob

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Enny. Let me tell you,
manh yeah, last time you were fact

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checking. Man. No, I'm
not the fact checker. I tell you

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you're doing it again. No,
but listen, but it is and you

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know the Cumberland River is actually fast
flowing. Yeah, so even in September

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it was really really cold water.
And but that night we had a heavy

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fog that came down on the river
itself and we couldn't see ten feet in

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front of us. Oh wow.
We were on these these RB sevens.

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We call them zodiacs. It's a
rubber boat that we use for stealth infiltration

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and it'll hold like twelve twelve men, twelve OHDA members, which is that's

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what a team is, twelve men. And the rangers use it a lot

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when they do boat ops. We
use it a lot. And so we

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had three of those boats and we're
going down the Cumberland River. Fog has

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set in, can't see ten feet
in front of you, and there's a

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Boston whaler that's actually leading the way
for us, and we almost get taken

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out by this huge barge. He
blows his horn, you know who winks

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us all up as we're screaming down
this river. And finally we decide,

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hey, look this is a bad
idea. Let's uh, let's pull to

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the side and dock. And so
we pull on the banks and actually just

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caught up some sleep. Yeah,
but okay, but you're not prepared.

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You're not prepared to stay. No, not at all. And it's cold.

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And by the way, the bodies
of those damn boats are illuminum,

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right, they're illuminum, that's right, So they make it even colder.

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Oh, it's a lot colder.
Uh. And some of us brought and

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some of us brought uh uh some
warming gear. I had brought some gortex

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jacket, jacket and pants, and
uh, some guys had brought what we

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call a wooby or a wooby.
Yeah, it's like his blanket. That's

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right, it's a puncho liner.
It's for my wife. Never mind,

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I got to go ahead, so
you'll go ahead. So some of us

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have brought stuff, and but others
did not. They you know, it's

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always that some guys think, you
know, uh travel, travel, light

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flight, you know. And so
uh, after you know, we all

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settle on the bank. Everyone's crashing
and it's really cold and everyone's shivering.

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And the next morning when I wake
up, I happen to see my intel

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Sergeant Andy Marshall, probably one of
the greatest sergeants in Special Forces. Guy

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has done, had a remarkable career. And I look over and I see

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this, this pile of life preservers, life vests, and they're all tied

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together and it's moving and I'm looking
over and going, what the hell is

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that? And I realized he's peering
through one of the openings of the life

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so he's trying to stay warm,
and he's trying to stay warm. He's

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got all these life preservers on top
of it. He's using it as a

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blaket. He goes, oh my
god, it's so cold. But you

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eventually make it back nine to eleven
you find out, hey, this happens,

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and nine to eleven. How soon
after nine to eleven, because you

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guys were picked out, specifically,
I believe, on the fourteenth for this

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mission, right, we were,
and the mission itself was to conduct personal

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recovery. That was the first mission, okay, And once we got into

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country, they realized that the Air
Force, the pair rescue guys could do

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that mission, so they actually took
that mission from us, So we didn't

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really have a mission there, but
because we had done extensive studies of the

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area on our own, and one
of the teams in fact, did fail.

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When they did their brief back to
the commander, they reached out and

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they said, well, who's who's
here? Who's ready to go? And

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they said, well, A five
ninety five has been here since the beginning.

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They were tasked with this mission,
and this mission was pulled away from

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them, but they've been studying and
training this entire time. And so then

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Colonel Mulholland, he said, we'll
bring him in here. Let's let's see

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what they can do. And so
we did our brief back to him and

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also one of the CEA reps,
and they loved what we talked about.

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So, okay, here's what happens. Then correct me if I'm wrong.

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I'm going off my own research.
You guys take a helicopter into Afghanistan.

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It's about a four hour flight.
But the problem is the helicopter's flying in

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a higher altitude than it's design for
Number one, extremely dangerous correct number two.

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When you get on it, you
realize, well, there's no oxygen

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and there's no heat, and so
you're freezing your lack of oxygen. You

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touched down in Afghanistan and a little
groggy, I got to imagine, but

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not to mention. Not to mention. You guys were up for about twenty

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four hours before the flight to begin
with. Right, that's correct. So

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you get on this flight, lack
of sleep, lack of oxygen. You

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touch down Afghanistan as you and eleven
other guys. What is that feeling like

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when you see the helicopter take off
and leave you in Afghanistan? Just you

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and eleven men. And by the
way, you're surrounded by people that hate

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you and want to kill you,
and you're isolated. Is this the worst

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feeling in your life? Or does
adrenaline just take over right then? In

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there? Well, you're really focused. Yeah, there are thoughts that come

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through your head. But all in
all, the guys are focused. They

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know what they have to do.
They have to secure the area that they

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land the drop zone or landing zone, and be prepared to meet their counterparts,

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which was the CIA. And you
know, you sit, you sit

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there and you're praying for this guy
to walk up. I bet right,

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Oh yeah, yeah, no kidding. Okay, So so you're in Afghanistan

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and but but here's here's something else. You know, when you go back

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to the helicopter and the insertion piece, which to me, the most dangerous

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part of the mission itself, is
the insertion is coming in. And when

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we started talking about weights, you
know, the weight of each man and

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and you know all the all the
ammo he was bringing in, the frag

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grenades, the water, the meals. Uh, and then we had body

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armor and as they they the the
commander of the ship itself he said,

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hey, look we're we're way overweight. Uh, there's no way I can

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get you up over the mountains.
This is this is going to be an

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ardwords twipp and so we ended up
ditching the helmets and also the body armor.

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Oh my god, So we I
like to say, we go in

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skinny. Of course. The good
thing is is when we go in that

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way, Yeah, we look like
our counterparts, uh, and we fight

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like them. And we built a
lot of rapport that way because we had

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no body armor whatsoever. Wow,
And I think that was that was key.

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And by the way, so your
mission, and correct me again if

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I'm wrong. Your mission is to
find in Afghanistan, there's only twelve of

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you guys, but you're you're tasked
with getting twelve, for lack of a

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better term, tribes, rebel tribes, four factions, four factions. I'm

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sorry, I say twelve, that's
four twelve, you're right, Okay,

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no, no, But you were
tasked to get four rebel factions that absolutely

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hate each other, by the way, you're tasked to getting them to work

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together as one unit with you guys
in tandem and and disrupt a Taliban.

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But the problem, if you asked
me, as many times as we put

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in and out of Afghanistan, that's
got to be a difficult task, Bob,

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know, Well, what makes special
Forces. Unique is there were really

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diplomats. You know, we're key
of going into some countries and actually working

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with the populace, UH, learning
their culture and then talking talking to them

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and and trying to work out a
common goal is basically what we try to

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do. And for us, you
know, getting those four factions together that

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was key. We actually had two
meetings with the each each of the factions

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and their commanders they're they're they're higher
and UH and bringing them in the second

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meeting was kind of was really key
because that was that was before we were

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going to take Mazar Sharif uh and
capture that. But it was it was

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very key. Uh. They had
we had moved so fast and they were

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they're really rare to go, but
they wanted to go on their own and

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we listen, let's we got to
stay together here. When we first landed,

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the army itself was probably about fifteen
hundred. They had about one thousand

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cavalry and about five hundred infantry,
and once we brought all those factions together

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to complete the mission, it was
about five thousand. We had about three

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thousand or thirty five hundred cavalry and
the rest infantry we're getting close to a

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break. I got to ask you
this question real quick because the whole mission

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is just absolutely unbelievable. But you
get on the ground and you say to

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your team about this, show no
remorse and show no jubilation. That's correct.

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Is it really that easy to compartmentalize
stuff and viewed as a job?

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Yeah? Where'd you read that one? At you? I do my research

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job. Listen. If I got
an interview like Bob Pennington and I'm doing

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my work, baby, Yeah,
I did say that you have to focus.

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If I always I always looked at
it as the enemy is watching us,

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even from Afar, and if we
if we show that we've got them,

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you know, can I say that, Yeah, we've got the balls.

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Yeah, we've got the bulls.
Yeah. And they see it,

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and there's no reaction to us that
we are just there to sling and slay.

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They take it. They'll look at
it and go, holy crap,

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these guys are not here to play. Hey, listen, it's Bob Pennington,

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horse soldier Bourbon. Stick around more
with Bob. And by the way,

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if you're in Fort Knox three to
five pm, get your bottle signed

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by the Bob Pennington and also join
me with Bob Pennington tonight at six thirty

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to eight thirty krogerm mintal Town.
Get two bottles, one signed and one

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to drink. You're gonna love this
bourbon and you're gonna love your Shady Rays.

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Oh man. I was in there
yesterday and bought two more per days.

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How many now I'm up to thirty
five pair right now. But listen,

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Shady Rays is the perfect sunglasses for
you. They're idiot proof, and

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I'm an idiot. If you lose
them, if you scratch them, if

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you break them, if they're stole
them, no matter what the reason,

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they replace them. Plus, I
want you to go by the Oxmore Center

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and I want you to try specifically
the color Rush. It's mine and Susan's

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favorite, all of the colors.
They just pop. There's so much more

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vibrant when you have these sunglass on. Don't know about the technology, but

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it works. Plus Shady Raised if
you use code w h as you get

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fifty percent off two or more pair. They're risks, they're wrisk free.

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I gotta tell you you're gonna love
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Center or shady raised dot Com stick
around really in the years, then more

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with Bob Pennington, Horse Sogier Bourbon, who's radio eight forty whas? What

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kind of dumb ass doesn't name is
horse? No kidding? Red one Bob

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read one Bob and it's ready to
eight forty wh as. That's Dave Jennings,

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I'm Dwight Witten, and that's Alex
and that's Bob Pennington, one of

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the twelve Strong of Horse Soldiers.
If you haven't seen the movie, watch

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the movie, which, by the
way, when that comes out, none

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of your names or public knowledge.
So do you go in a bar and

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you go, hey, you know
that movie twelve Strong's about me? And

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no it's not. Then I get
a big laugh and then you kill them.

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Bob Pennington part of ODA five ninety
five, first boots on the ground

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in Afghanistan. Helicopter dropped off himn
and eleven other guys, just twelve guys.

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They were tasked with uniting four rebel
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with them. It's an amazing story
that three years, two to three years,

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war planners said it will take to
get this done. These guys get

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it done in three weeks, absolutely
amazing. But the part of horse soldiers,

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why we have horse soldier Bourban is
less than less than forty eight hours.

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And by the way, just to
recap, you've been up for twenty

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four hours, prepping, packing,
preparing for this trip. You got to

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throw your body armor out the helicopter
because it's too much weight. No,

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we actually didn't even bring it,
just bring it and bringing it all.

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Okay, let's let's go throw it
out. It's more excited. Let's see

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that. See why. That's how
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Yeah, yeah, you're right,
but no kidding. So you hit the

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ground. And by the way,
it was less than forty eight hours.

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They tell you, oh, your
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many of you I had horse experience? Fun for me, yeah I had

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to. I always tell people I
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look at me, and they go, wow, that's great hor horse training.

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I said, yeah, that's that
horse in front of kmart where you

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throw I had and you get bucked
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you're bucked. Okay, okay,
you I'm watching you. I'm watching so

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okay, but any rate, no
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They're stallions. They're stallions. If
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If you have two stallions together,
they're gonna fight each fight. And we

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had that problem, did you all
the time? Yes? What the thirty

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stallions you all had? Is it
awesome? I mean, how many?

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There's twelve of you? I thought
there were twelve stallions. No, there

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was, but yeah, well other
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guess there's oh there's well there's more. Yeah. Yeah, we're talking thousand,

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thousands of horses. So you got
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rain, you're in the mountains,
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you drop over and you're dead.
Oh yeah. Are the horses biting

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each other? Bucking each other?
Well, you know when we were riding,

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we call them goat trails, and
they're about eighteen to twenty four inches.

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Why that's it. And you're up
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goat trails going up these mountain sides
two three thousand feet high. My gosh,

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and if you were sweating, if
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we had to try to keep space. If they bucked, they're taking you

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down so our our sop for it, our standing operating procedure, was to

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pull our pistol and shoot the horse. Serious we have. You had to

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otherwise he'd drag us down, stomp
on us, kill us. Okay.

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So it's dangerous enough that you've got
zero horse experience. You're on a stallion

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around other stallius. So they're bucking, they're fighting, they're biting each other,

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and they're biting me. Yeah.
Wow, mine was reaching back and

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biting me. He didn't like me
too much. You know, here's a

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guy who didn't like Bob Pennington.
I'm about two hundred and thirty pounds.

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Yeah, at that time, I
have two percent body fat, and I'm

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carrying all this AMMO and food and
water, and this horse is pissed off

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because I've just crushed his leg right
exactly. And he's used to carrying an

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Afghan who weighs about one hundred and
thirty five hundred and forty pounds, and

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he's got two magazines half full of
AMMO. That's it. Wow, Wow,

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Okay, I see why heves pissed. Yeah, I do too.

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But it's dangerous not just hopping in
a stallion, especially with zero experience,

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but what kind of situation do you
get At least, can you build rapport

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with the stallion and you get the
same stallion every day? Or is it

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horse roulette? No, for most
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And the way it happened is one
of the cavalry men would give us their

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horse, and he would follow behind
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he'd take his horse, he'd feed
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put the blanket on it, and
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we'd get another horse the next day. Only Mark was the guy that,

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because he was the commander, got
the same horse, and over I got

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screwed every day. It's so dangerous. Listen, if you haven't seen the

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movie, twelve is strong. It's
Bob Pennington and eleven other story I could

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talk. I've literally got hours of
notes about this mission is absolutely incredible.

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But I'd be remiss if I didn't
talk about this bourbon. Oh, we

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got to talk about that. Oh. And by the way, if you

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want to meet Bob Pennington and get
an autograph bottle, you want a special,

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a very special Father's Day gift that
you can't get anywhere else, you

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got it, you can get it
tonight. Tomorrow or Friday as an autograph

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bottle from one of the horse Soldiers, the Bob Pennington. He'll be at

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Fort Knox today from three pm to
five pm, six thirty, eight thirty.

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I'll be with him tonight at Kroger
Middletown Tomorrow Total Wine the Paddock from

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four to six I'll be with Bob
then two and then Friday Evergreen Liquors in

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Prospects. Get two bottles, one
signed as a gift and one to drink

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because this stuff one double gold.
Oh yeah, that's incredible. Oh yeah,

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And you know, and here's the
thing. All our SKUs, all

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three of the skews one double gold
the same year at the San Francisco competition,

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which is the premier company. You
got to be proud of that.

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And here's why this the horse Soldier
bourbon in story and there's you just go

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to the website and read the story. It's not one of these deals where

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a rock star says I want to
run and they smack a name on it.

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This was not pre prepared barrels.
You all. Actually you went so

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intense with this. You went to
Ireland to see how Irish wissy was made.

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That's correct, you went to uh
Scotland to see how Scottish Scottish Scotch

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you even worked? You all worked
in warehouses? Or did you here in

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Kentucky? We did. We we
bottled ourselves. We we uh. We

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actually put the labels on most of
those labels that I put on our cricket.

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So if you ever see one of
those, is it true, by

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the way, that you all wanted
to know everything about it so much to

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the point that you started making your
own barrels? We we well, we

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went we went to uh uh to
study to make barrels. As far as

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the barrels go for ours, we
actually have a company that actually makes the

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barrels for us, and they do
a great job. Okay, now you

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know, and what's weird about making
barrels is you know we're kind of running

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out of white oak. Yeah,
you know, And that's it's it's I

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know, it's not just ourselves,
but other bourbon companies out there are looking

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at the same thing. Dave,
can you make a note and you and

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I are going to start a white
oak tree? Okay, yes, okay,

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but I want to talk about because
no kid, will you give me

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a deal? Absolutely I will,
But no, listen, this bourbon is

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absolutely terrific the taste and it says
forged in fire. And what's beautiful about

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that is you guys actually honored the
tragedy of September eleventh with the pressing of

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this right. Talk about the steel
and how that came about. Yeah,

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that's the World Trade Center steel and
the Port Authority guys actually took care of

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us on that one. You know, back then when we were starting,

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we we didn't have a whole lot
of money. And the bottle molds for

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pressing out a bottle is actually they're
expensive. They're like sixty grand or yeah,

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they're about they're close to sixty grand, and you need seven of those

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for a rack. Oh wow,
to produce bottles, you know, yeah,

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quickly. Yeah. And so we
were looking for this steel and we

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just we found out the type of
steel we needed was a very dense steel

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and the Porterthorty guys had it and
they had extra World Trades in Heer steel

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and they said, would you guys
like to have this? And they gave

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us a couple of tons and I'll
tell you we have plenty for years to

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come. Well, I'll tell you
this horse Soldier bourbon, best Dan bourbon

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you're gonna get and the bottle is
absolutely beautiful? Is that gorgeous? God?

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So it's so beautiful now. Elizabeth
Pritchett, who is John Coco's wife,

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he or she did a phenomenal job
designing that and putting it together for

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us. So yeah, Susan and
I we have all three at our bar

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and it's absolutely beautiful looking. But
again, if you want the very perfect

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gift or think ahead, thank for
Father's Day, you got it right here

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as an autograph bottle of horse soldier
bourbon from one of the horse soldiers.

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Here's your opportunities today Class six at
Fort Knox three pm till five pm.

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Bob's gonna be signing horse Soldier bourbon. I will be with Bob tonight from

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six thirty to eight thirty. A
Kroger Middletown. Tomorrow Total Wine at the

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Paddock from four pm to six pm, and then Friday Evergreen Liquors in Prospect

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from four pm to six pm.
Folks get two bottles, one autographed and

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then one to drink. I promise
you, I promise you you won't be

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disappointed. Is it's gonna be a
little sampling going on while we're here.

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Oh absolutely, and we'll talk a
little treason. Come on out, Come

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on out and sample this bourbon.
You're gonna fall in love with it.

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If you missed the dates in the
Times, just go to the White Witten

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Facebook page. I'm going to have
them up there all three days, Bob

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Penny to good to see them,
meg as you and I appreciate it.

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Thanks for your time and having me
here. And let's have some more fun

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now, You're damn right we will
and I'll see you tonight and tomorrow.

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By the way, all right,
hey, listen, people ask me all

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the time. I want to start
cooking outside. I want to start smoking.

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I want to start grilling. Where
should I start? Well, start

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with the pros. The pros they're
grill Master's supply. You've heard me talk

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about the fireplace for over a year
now, Well now they have the grill

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Master supply at the fireplace, all
of the rubs and all of the seasonings

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and sauces that you need. Plus
they'll get the smoker or grill that's right

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for you. Have you ever thought
about having an outdoor kitchen. Let's make

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that a reality. Stop by the
fireplace, give them your plans there.

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We will make a blueprint from it, and they're gonna give you all of

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the plans, the costs, the
whole bit to make that dream come true.

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You can actually have that outdoor kitchen
with the fireplace, all things grilling,

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smoking. They even have the Weatherbe's
island rub that I use for salmon

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that I gave to Bob over a
year ago and he still hasn't used yet.

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I'm sorry to what hey, it's
the grill Master Supply. It's in

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the same shopping center on Roosters at
Shelbyville Road. I'll see you there,

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and i'll see you tonight with Bob
Pennington and the horse Soldier bourbon More on

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the way on news. Ready to
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