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Hey everyone, it's Tuesday. It's
December the fourteenth, it's twenty ten,

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and it's the Giant BombCast. I
am Ryan Davis. I'm your host.

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I'm joined by Vinny Caravella. Hi, good afternoon, the beautiful Vinny Caravella.

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Yeah, he's not here today.
You got the anguill? Can we

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just get any kind of Vinny Caravella
also joining a special guest from Pop Cap

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Games, Jeff Green is in the
house. Jeff, thank you for taking

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time out of your constant commused to
seattle. Yeah, come on to come

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on over the here taking it off
this week. I'm taking off this week.

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It's like the first week I took
off. That's nice. Nice,

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and I'm spending it with you.
I was gonna say so, we were

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getting you as the check and we
got you right before. You're about to

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start your your pop Cap your your
new life with pop Cap and uh and

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now you are in it. We
will talk about that, Shirley. First,

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let me introduce the rest of our
team. Mister Jeff's oh god,

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pull it together man shoemaker, mister
Jeff Gerstman. I can match three as

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well. Uh, and it's a
job for you really. See later I

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know where the money's at, Matching
three apparently or Pegs. Brad shoemakers here.

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That's going, Brad, it's going
pretty well excellent. We're gonna talk

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all of us about video games starting
now. It's the year. Can we

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talk about too though we certainly,
we certainly can. After last week,

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Vinnie check in I had any new
developments, was just pouring out stuff because

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he recently listened to our podcasts.
We's got yeh, but but I have

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a I have a hidden agenda.
Oh okay, is its a podcast?

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Just see it's Is it pegel for
Rosetta Stone? No, no, no,

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I was just hearing you talk about
Rosetta Stone last week made me remember

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that when I worked at Computer Gaming
World and we would go to the Metre

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on and we would see the Rosetta
guys there. I thought that was like

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the saddest person in the world.
I just thought that was such a sad

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job to happen the next Stone the
dragon naturally speaking guys or no, no,

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he was just on his own.
But it does seemed like it just

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the guy's job. It's like,
I'm yeah, like what a random thing.

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I'm selling translation software in a mall. Do they have a storefront or

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is this like selling toy helicopters.
It's a toy helicopters. The teacher,

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I speak Italian. I mean we
go there for launch a couple times a

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week and there'll never be anyone there. He can't serve the web, you

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know. He there's a computer right
there, but he can't use it because

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he's got to be ready to make
a say. That's that's kind of true

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of everything at the Metrion. No
one's dying anything right while you're like,

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this is a weird place. Let's
get out of here. Everything terrible.

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Everybody did leave. It's like a
ghost town now. But I actually mighty

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into a target. All shit that
you're right turning into a target. They're

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putting a target in there. That
that says it all back. Wait,

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so what's gonna happen to? What's
it called? Is is that where the

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walk of game is? Is that
what they call it? Over sh So

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my my theory though about the about
the Rosetta Stone booth was I felt that

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that was some sort of like it
was like the penalty box for bad Microsoft

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employees, Like you sucked up and
it's like you got to wake the Rosetta

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stone, right, Jailard, you're
going down? What I'm leaving? The

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tribe? Oh the tribe? Is
there anything? So have you run into

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any kind of Let me before I
start making accusations about the culture at PopCap?

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How are things a PopCap? They're
They're pretty awesome. Okay, I'm

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happy, good, I'm happy there. I am excellent. Yeah. I

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when I saw you guys last I
had two choices basically for jobs, and

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they were both good, and one
of them was back in the media,

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and it was really tempting. I
mean, I wanted back in after my

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last experienced things to say. I
had things to say and I was angry

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about him. So, you know, I had to kind of be convinced

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by PopCap to come to PopCap.
Yeah, and it ended up being kind

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of an offer. I couldn't refuse
it. And I and I don't really

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just mean money. It was really
the whole It was the whole thing,

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you know, the money and the
benefits and the benefits right vision, Let's

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do this well. It was also
the chance to like sort of keep going

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with the sort of stuff I was
trying to do at EA. And you

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know, I've been doing this kind
of thing for a long time in my

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career, and the media job was
really tempting, and it was a good

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one, and I think I would
have been instantly comfortable, and then amy

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have felt a little bad about myself
for like sort of taking what would have

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been sort of the easy way out. Like the PopCap job is definitely more

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challenging, like I'm trying to do
things there that they haven't done before.

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But the cool thing is like they're
on board of it. So it's challenging

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and it's hard. I mean,
you're already trying to ramp up. I've

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seen you've got you've got podcast designs, you're doing your your live video chat

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stuff. Yeah, I've been working. Actually, you've been helping me out.

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You're you're bringing the media to them. You're saying, look, this

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is kind of you know, what
we're trying to do is or what I'm

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trying to do is sort of,
yeah, bring the audience straight to PopCap

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in a way that you know,
they're not going to get the same kind

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of media coverage that that other big
game companies are going to get, you

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know, or that Stone or Rosetta
Stone. Hey, to be fair,

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we had no Rosetta Stone people.
We have an actual pop cat employee here.

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True, that's right. Maybe I
should have gone to work for Rosetta.

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Yeah, it's like, well I
can learn how to match three or

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Japanese three. It is, right. So I am gonna get a pop

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cap podcast going, and I'm excited
about the podcast. It's I think I

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think that sort of has to be
like everybody thinks that it rights itself.

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How about the cap cast just to
mess people up, just just just to

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throw them off, So just pod
cap Yeah, no, thank you,

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that's it, all right, thank
you. If nothing, we are good

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for stupid names. Yeah. And
with that, like I'm you know,

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they're giving me a long lease just
in in the in the concept of it.

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So it's not going to be as
talking about the Jeweled every week.

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In fact, what I'm hoping more
is that there's like a pretty lively developer

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community up in Seattle. Yeah,
and I'm hoping to get a lot of

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those folks on you just sort of
have like open talks about gaming and stuff

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going on in that area. So
of course it's going to be PopCap focused

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and there's gonna be stuff that we're
gonna want to get across. But I'm

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really hoping to sort of have sort
of a bigger dialogue going on, so

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you can ask David Ellis, like, what what PopCap game do you think

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Master Chief would like? What's your
favorite podcast? You cats old enough to

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talk about Jesus? So yeah,
so you know, I it was kind

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of like when PopCap was talking to
me. It was kind of like,

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you know, the the new nice
girlfriend trying to convince you after you were

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with the like harsh abuseive girlfriend.
You know things are going to be okay.

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You know, I understand you,
Jeff. I won't be like that

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as I was a little but it
was so bad. It's time for the

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healing to begin. Yeah, you
know. And and so far they've they've

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been really kind about, you know, letting me just tweet whatever the hell

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I want to say and all that. I mean, we'll see how far

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I can push it before I get
in trouble. You'll find a limit eventually.

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I'm working on it, and I'm
working on it every day. You

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have to find an eventure because then
that's that lets you know, Okay,

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every every kid needs its slimmits.
You need. I am a parent,

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and they have to you know the
kid has to find it like, okay,

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well this is this is the line
that I will then push from here

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on half, Like if I keep
calling them poop crap, I'm like,

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I'll see how long I could get
away with that before and all your photoshops

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of AO rated plants versus zombies Like, okay, Jeff, that's the line.

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We're trying to expand the market here. People have no vision. People

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are already making portographic knockoffs is but
Jeweled. We're not getting sent off of

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it. Make these ones easier.
You only got a match too. Come

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on, come on this when they
match themselves hands free? Come on,

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okay, act Bejeweled. There you
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my my feeling is, as a
guy who covered this company for many

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years, was that they must be
cool that you know, their games have

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always been cool. I've always felt
like there's been this sort of subversive sense

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of humor to them, and I
my suspicion was it was probably going to

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be a good place to work because
of it, and so far that has

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been born out, and you know, as I've been there, like one

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thing that I've noticed is, to
continue my abusive girlfriend analogy is that when

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I got in there and you know, I made I've made a few mistakes

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or said the wrong thing that the
wrong person because I didn't know them or

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whatever, so you know, then
there would be an email back to like,

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you know, next time, Jeff, maybe you should do this.

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And from my previous job, that
usually meant I was in so much shit.

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I would sit down and this is
a podcast, and I would write

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like in reply, like a nine
hundred word apology like I'll never do anything.

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I'm sorry, like you know,
I'll leave, I'll go home now,

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back to Berkeley if that would make
you feel better, And and the

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reply would always be like, yeah, it's all right, reacting. We

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were kind of already over it at
a little drama queen there, yeah kind

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of. So it's like, wow, everybody's actually nice here, so excellent.

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Yeah, so I'm happy. Although
that commute to Seattle, that's no

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joke, man, that's no joke. Howevery up there once a week or

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once a nuts every week so far. I took a week off, and

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I took this week off, and
I started in September. How we were

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able to get him here is he's
not would be you'd be on a plan,

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I would be up there right now. I leave Monday nights and I

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get back Thursday night. So I'm
in the office of podcast Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Thursday. But then I'm at home
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Monday. I mean, when you
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that way, it's not that bad. Those fights aren't that long. It's

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an hour and a half. Yeah, yeah, it's not that big.

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At the backing up the mind that
drives. Yeah, my commute to to

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E was was hell. As you
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from from Yea, from Berkeley down
to there. That's that's rough.

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Do you have like people you recognize
now at the airport and kind of the

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the guy who checks the IDs to
those sides those that guy recognized me because

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I'm always on the same flight.
You know, it's Monday at the exact

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same time. He's got his shift, and so he's always right. He's

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like, don't you are you always
here? Yeah? So, as a

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freaking FID you have opinions about the
cert current TSA situation. I don't think

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any of us want when was the
last time any of us were on a

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plane packs for me creates right career
for you. It's it's packs for you.

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Remember, it's kind of no big
deal. No, honestly, I

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mean I've been put through the scanner
thing. I haven't not gotten the pat

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I keep trying to get the past, and it's like, please please pat

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me, you know, but let
me let me know alive, any sort

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of human contact. Please. Someone
touched me Mary twenty four years. But

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everyone just thinks, but I have
gone through the machine thing. And if

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you don't think about the fact that
like someone is looking at you naked,

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which is also kind of nice,
it's really no big deal. You just

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stand there for a second and then
and then you're gone. You know,

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it's no big deal. I don't
want to I don't want to dest but

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I will say that I my concerned
to be for all of those TSA employees

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standing right next to the conscient machine
that's constantly yeah radiation exactly, or even

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like the pilots, you have to
go through it every day, just kind

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of like zip. So they say
it's like, oh, it's like,

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you know, it's like a chest
X ray. It's you know, it's

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not that big day. But again, I don't I get those like every

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few years. Yeah, and even
that one time it feels like what are

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they doing? And every time like
I have to leave the room, give

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me that, and they give me
that. I'm out of here. If

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all the hair falls out of your
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He has to leave the room and
I have to high from Superman. Clearly

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something is going on, some bad
thing is happening. But I have learned

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you guys, I'll see up in
the air with Yes, I'm feeling like

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him now with the whole packing and
going through the security like it's all bad

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efficiency, and I get completely annoyed
by you know, you could see the

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like the families like like civilians like
get out of I'm a commuter, now

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get the fuck out of the way, you know, coming the normals,

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normals weekend, I have to take
my shoes off, that kind of thing,

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like you always. So that's what
it's like for me. Other than

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that. Fantastic Well, Jeff,
A pleasure to have you here, as

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always to be here. Let's uh, let's let's talk to the rest of

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the crew here for a bit though, any Caravella, hey, buddy,

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well, we are in the midst
for those for those listening we are in

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Actually, as you were listening to
this, we are fighting right now.

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Yeah probably yeah, Well you're you
to this podcast, we're recording another one.

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There's another one that's happening, and
we are so pissed at each other.

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Happened. I probably hate Brad.
No, actually, I think me

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and you are gonna have to form
a strategic alliance. No, because fuck

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strategic alliances for one thing, because
they never last. This isn't a reality

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show where I'm gonna get like by
coming later. You have your own agenda

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and you stick to it. Our
Game of the Year deliberations uh taking place

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over the course of this week,
and we are we're gonna try and cram

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as much of it into eight one
day so that I'm just gonna be the

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end of that whatever game you wants. Fine, Vinne's just gonna keep playing

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the games that Vine likes to play. See you can. God damn it

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it, Jeff. It either goes
that way. It either goes like fuck

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it, I don't care whatever,
or it's the irrational fine like no,

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no, no, I'm not gonna
let no years worth of just one kind

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of like gently related things. I'm
gonna stick on this best graphics category,

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and I'm gonna hold my grounds so
typical of you. Just wait until I

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start my StarCraft filibuster. Limbo,
come out of your mouth one more time,

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everyone in this room, in this
room for forty eight hours, I'm

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gonna see if you're gonna filibuster,
you have to stand. That's right,

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all right, it's the rules and
the podium though, that's right, we

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should feel. Are you gonna game
of the year overall game of the year

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StarCraft? I don't think that's your
hands. I don't think that's a fight

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I can win in here. That
shouldn't stop it from I mean, but

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I'm realistic though, you know,
we've we've all, we've all. This

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is not our first rodeo. We've
all done this enough times, you know.

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Like, all right, realistically,
I'm not gonna be able to sell

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these other cats on like games.
So what's what's the game that I want

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that I think will win totally?
Well's the one that you bring up kind

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of under your breath. Well,
I'd vote for StarCraft, But like Jeff,

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Jeff, Jeff has already said he
would support a vote for StarCraft two

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over a handful of other games.
I will say this, like, but

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I don't want this to become a
Game of the Year podcast. With plenty

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of that, there's nothing that I
would not be happy to say, Yes,

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that was the game of the year. Like, I feel like all

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of our kind of our top bids
right now our game is like, yeah,

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that game was Like maybe that's not
my favorite game, but I have

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my personal top ten lists, so
that's where I get to vent that shit

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out. But yeah, usually by
the time it gets there, they are

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all spectacular games. It's like,
yeah, these are all great. So

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it's it's just sort of like,
well, which one is the greatest?

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The most greatest is tough? Which
week which Vie? You and I spent

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some time this weekend try to figure
out what's the most straightest Dorito's promotional game

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available on Xbox Live Arcades. Well, I'm throwing my hat into the ring

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of Crash Course Dorito's Crash Course.
I second the votes. Yeah, anybody

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else want to challenge carried all right? Where Yeah, it's not an actual

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category, just so we we spent
some time with Dritos. If you're listening,

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if you'd like to sponsor the Giant
Bond Game of the year feature sponsor

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was a little late sponsorship of some
kinds. We're not that cheap. Don't

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sell us that. I will take
the money, will buy our own God

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damn Toritos. Dude, what if
it's a lot of Dritos. What if

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it's a lot of like the super
small bags so we can make like a

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ball pit out of them. Now
I had I had a case of small

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bags of Cheetos. Don't ask me
why, and shit, but somehow I

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came into those. And there's still
one Rabba lunch lines maybe, okay,

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keep going. There's still one taped
above my whall bathroom, just a sealed

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bag of chieves. Yeah. I
forget why. I forget why I taped

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it up there. At the time, it was something totally we were hiding

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it. It was it was me
and my roommate were hiding it in each

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other each other's shoes and just sticking
them in weird places. Yeah, but

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basically he was getting cheetoed. And
then I think where it ended up is

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I just ended up haping it above
the door to the bathroom. And it's

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been there for like a year,
and you know, you're probably still good.

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Probably ladies coming, they stay at
the house and then they say,

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like, what is wrong? Why? What is wrong with you people?

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But it's not the cheese. I
don't know, come on, it's not

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that. That's that's just one of
many things. The stolen road cone that's

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in front of the bathroom door.
Now, actually it's probably more noticeable than

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the cheetos. But you're you're effective
warning your Las Vegas flyers. Uh door

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montage. He has a lot of
bad stuff in my house. We Vinnie

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getting back on topic. So I
think Dorito's crash course right, they're Friedo

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lay right, that is as products. Yeah, I'm holding out for the

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chili cheese. Friedo's games. So
does Doritos have a lot of games?

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They've done three of these so far. They didn't They did uh with Death

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of the Struction of Destruction, and
that was the Monster Trucks Versus Dinosaurs game

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that came out, which which I
recall it not being terrible but just being

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kind of like you crank through because
it was two hundred really quick points and

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yeah, I forgot the points.
There was no real reason to keep playing

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it. And then it's harms Way. Harm's Way is which kind of seems

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like a real video game. Actually
it does, but I don't care for

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it too much. We spent some
time in there as well. I just

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don't like the handling on the car
turrets versus monster trucks. Are there Doritos

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in the game? No, that
one's the weird thing like that one way,

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especially they have a logo up front
or something like that, and even

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that it's it's for strong. Yeah. So are they're doing some kind of

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competition where they put these two games
out for free on the same day and

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people are gonna be able to vote
which one's better. And I think it's

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a real easy vote because harms Way
is not so good and Dorito's Crash Course

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is pretty awesome. Yeah, so
so Dre's Cat Crash Course for a free

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for a free game, I've paid
a sensibly the promote tortilla chips. That

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one for five bucks, I would
have said, yeah, this is this

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is totally fun. If you'd probably
use some more levels, sure, sure,

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but be right. As a free
product, it's like, yeah,

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this is actually fun. It brings
them and does and does not slam the

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branding uh down your throat the whole
time. Now, what if it came

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out from some indie developer and it
had nothing to do with Doritos. I

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think some indie developer actually did the
development work on it. So yeah,

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but it's it's all avatar based,
so it's just your avatar and it's kind

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of just running through an obstacle course, you know, like a you know

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she's about or you know, one
of those extreme physical kind of game show

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things and you just you know,
run around and go from left to right

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and you're going for best time and
it gets pretty tough. Uh just it

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handles well. I think what it
is. This is really good animation on

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Yeah, some of the best avatar
animation I've seen. Eating chips, Yeah,

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no, chips get consumed opportunity.
Uh yeah, it's it's you look

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at you like, why why are
you doing this Doritos, Like well,

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it's like when Burger King did it. It's like, yeah, there's Burger

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King shit everywhere here, So I
get it. But it definitely seems like

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they there was a game in development
that they then picked up these two kids.

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I think with the Harms way specifically, they actually solicit did a lot

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of the stuff was them soliciting ideas
from people and then they took the best

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ideas and contracted developers to make them. I mean that was the like Dash

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of Destructions, the same deal,
exactly what that was. But here we

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are talking about Doritos and their games. So maybe it's working. Like it's

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not a bad game. It's like
it's it's like, I mean, it's

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not up to the quality of either
of these games. But I am reminded

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in moments of both Trials and Splosion
Man while playing Crash Course you get that.

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Yes, the animations from Splosion Man, they're kind of like it's not

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as insane as either of them.
I'm a chance it's not. It doesn't

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take it to those levels, but
I am again I'm reminded. But they're

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fun. They were there be fun. We played four players. Better make

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this your game of the year,
just to like fun with game. It's

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a free one everybody can play,
presented by Dorito even if it's not just

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the value is infinite because you can't
divide, you've got the script, you've

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got your story. But yeah,
we already no dollars. We made it

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through, but I feel like I
will not play that game. Yeah,

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we hit our limits. We played
through every level once and in multiplayer.

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Yeah, but yeah, it was
free and then that and we played enough

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harms way to get points. One
was now when we actually got all the

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points in. That was easy.
That was easy. You don't even need

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other people for this. It was
so easy. You got you get points.

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We're looking at the credits and also
making a lobby, which I was

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given it away. The other thing
we played though together was a Need for

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Speed. We played a little Need
for Speed Hot Pursuit. This how much

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additional need for Speed Hot Pursuit?
Were you playing the Squeeze zero zero?

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Yeah? I had a lot of
need I know because as I was playing

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other things, I saw you,
like one in the morning, Hey,

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we'll play some more Need for Speed. I have still playing this. I've

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been playing since like seven in the
morning. That's yeah, I think it

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was. It was kind of like
it was like noon or eleven for that

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match. Hey, yeah, we
played earlier. I think I don't remember.

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Everything's a blurred out. Was that
today? It was like yesterday?

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Yeah? No, I'm not playing
blur and playing Hot Pursuits. Uh So

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did that dude who was in our
game party go out and actually buy the

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game and come back? Did you
wind up playing with that we all abandoned

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him. I was still playing,
but I don't have who was that.

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I have no idea who that was. Okay, I thought you no,

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wait, did Charlie knew? If
Charlie somebody who was like just in our

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game party day, what do you
guys do? It? Real fun?

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He was playing Black Ops. Yeah, he thought we were all gonna play

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Black Ops with him when he joined
the party. I think Charlie invited him

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at that point. Then he was
like, oh, well, you guys

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were going for a half hour,
I'm gonna go buy it. Like took

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like a thirty second sales pitch and
he was like, all right, I'm

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gonna pick that game, pick it
up. And then about ten minutes later

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and we were like everyone else was
like even as like so like you guys

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will be around, like she'll playing
like a half hour. Oh yeah.

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To be fair, I was still
playing it, but I didn't to be

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less fair, I just I got
booted out of that game or something like

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that. You got you got dumped
at some point for whatever reason. But

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yeah, that game is fantastic.
God damn. Yeah, it's a lot

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of fun. Jeff Green, have
you played any of the hot Pursuits.

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I was just thinking I should have
waited to Leviate until after I came out,

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so I would have gotten my free
copy. It's god, damn,

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you're free right, Like I don't
want to keep saying this for because I

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was telling on Amazon right now.
Yeah, it keeps getting cut down to

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thirty and thirty five dollars. I
heard nothing good things about it, and

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I was to when when they were
it was in beta and I saw it

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running and it looked great, and
like a lot of people, I was

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a big fan of the first Top
Pursuit, so it's I was and Criterion,

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you know, yeah, you guys
kind of do no wrong. Those

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guys really, I mean you look
at what Need for Speed had been for

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the years prior to that. They
really turned that whole series around because it

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was it was getting grim. Yeah, so when when that announcement came out,

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it just like felt right, you
know, like the hopes were high

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and it's it sounds like they I
was. I was, a little honestly,

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I was a little worried in that
they were announcing it at E three

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that year, then it was coming
out later that year. Granted, I

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don't know, like what the actual
development cycle was like how long it's it

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had been, but it seemed that
seemed like quick turnaround, and I was

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afraid, like, I hope they're
not just squeezing this out like Treterians,

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Like yeah, and we can do
this in between the burnouts. No no,

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no, no we can no.
No, it'll be good. No

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no no no no no, it'll
be good. We could do this and

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then just you know whatever. But
I think the the end product spece for

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itself. Yeah, So a lot
of fun and then a couple of other

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things right now on Amazon. So
worth it, I think. I don't

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know, personally, I think so
too. It's it's probably more fun when

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you have not only friends to play
with, but people on your friends list.

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For all that automologue stuff is it
is integral, it is absolutely yeah.

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So if you don't have any of
that, definitely a lot of the

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issues with the front end menu stuff
become less of a big less of a

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deal when you have more friends playing. And even even when I do,

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the big problem with it is just
navigating menus and selecting racism. That stuff

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I've got I think like at at
Max, i think I've got like fifteen

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people sixteen people and my friends that
are playing, that have that have played,

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aren't necessarily actively uh And even then, like you start getting to point

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Brad, I know you're there because
I see you on the same uh lap

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times where there's only like two people
that have completed an event, so you

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kind of get Yeah, you get
to the point where it's like, okay,

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everyone's done this one and it's really
fun and everyone can kind of compete,

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and then you keep going and keep
going and keep going like all right,

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well, I don't want to just
go up against you know, Dan

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from game in Foreigner and Brad again, so I'm just gonna skip it.

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So yeah, it's it's still as
issues with we were. We were playing

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straight kind of hot pursuit multiplayer and
that that was real fun. Yeah,

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although that's really the only good thing
I think in the multipla what's the one

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on one? It's intercepts, all
right, Yeah, although it feels really

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weighted against the cop yeah, because
the you just turn around every time.

406
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Yeah you're not You're not actually like
doing a lap on anything. It's just

407
00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:00.559
like in the single player, right, like I want every time I was

408
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.039
a racer and lost every time I
was a cop it just feels like the

409
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.920
Racer. I've had to go both
ways. I guess I just like the

410
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.680
you know, the group dynamics you
get when it's you know, four on

411
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:14.920
four like that. It's fun.
It's fun game. What else have you

412
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.480
been? So then just kind of
mopping up some of the end of year

413
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.599
stuff that I didn't make. Two
Journey here my nervous den the BioShock two

414
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.839
d LDLC think what you think?
What you think? I thought it was.

415
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.799
I thought it was great. I
think you talked a big game about

416
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:33.160
it, and it kind of was
a little worried actually because another game that

417
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.440
you finished maybe didn't deliver on much. Yeah, I know, but the

418
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:41.960
DLC for BioShock to that little self
contained piece of content was was great.

419
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.039
Fantastic. Yeah, so well written. It's what would you say, two

420
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.319
three maybe four hours? Maybe four
hours, but like it's just such a

421
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:53.319
like expertly written and paste like self
contained storyline. It's really nice and it's

422
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:57.599
self contained. There are some things
that you might want to have played BioShock

423
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.799
two four, but they don't break
in it. Yeah, they're kind of

424
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.119
it's kind of like, you know, they're using a lot of the assets

425
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.799
from BioShock two, like there are
big sisters in it. So if you

426
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:08.640
haven't played BioShock two, you don't
even know, like where did this come

427
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:14.440
from? Yeah? Who are those
people? But it did make me go

428
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:19.039
it immediately started playing BioShock too.
Uh and uh, I'm actually kind of

429
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.559
enjoying. I only played a bit
of it, but I don't know,

430
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.839
I feel like I'm back in BioShock
somehow. I've found myself in there.

431
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.039
I'm gonna be really curious to see
how history judges BioShock two, specifically,

432
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:36.799
because I I think it's I have
not finished it. I feel like history

433
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:38.960
has already forgotten BioShock two, and
it's gonna stay forgotten at this point.

434
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.359
You know, it just kind of
came and went. But I wonder if

435
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:48.559
that's just due to just current expectations
of BioShock and of that franchise. I

436
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.279
don't know, it's it seems like
it's like it's it's a fine game that

437
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.680
gets a certain short shrift. I
think I'm not sure what happened there.

438
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.599
Why that is well, I think
I think at the time, definitely it

439
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.799
was like I'm not ready for more
BioShock right now, right, I don't

440
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.359
or I just came out too soon. You don't want to go back to

441
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:08.920
to Rapture. It's like I've had
the story there, right, Yeah,

442
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.680
it looks a little too derivative,
like like going in before I had played

443
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.160
it, you know, it was
very easy to get a very negative impression

444
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.640
of what that game was going to
be. And you know, there is

445
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.960
a ton of stuff that is just
like welcome back to BioShock, and uh,

446
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.880
but I think at this point I'm
just kind of like, well,

447
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:27.480
I can go for some of that, and who knows if I'll make it

448
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.480
all the way through. I hope
I do, but I might. Just

449
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.400
I think when you look back on
it, you know, looking back on

450
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.720
it now from you know, when
I reviewed it, it's I remember things

451
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.039
like, oh man, it was
like so linear, like the train map

452
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.720
is literally justlike yes, yeah it
is. It is incredibly linear. And

453
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.440
it's the same style of gameplay.
You know, they do a little bit

454
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.440
of a better job of kind of
balancing out the different powers and stuff.

455
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.839
So I think the combat is much
better than the first game. But that's

456
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.519
not necessarily why people remember the original
bio Shock or or what people were looking

457
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:07.000
for out of a sequel, so
protection missions that's what they wanted. Yeah,

458
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.440
yeah, there's kind of a lot
of that stuff, which actually those

459
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.160
are not hard. I just giving
credit for that, like the the you

460
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:18.240
know, for for as much time
as you spend protecting uh things like like,

461
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.079
it's it's really not that difficult.
I'm already actually kind of a little

462
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.279
sick of those, like the protecting
the little sisters and stuff like then you

463
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:32.160
should totally not know. It's a
lot of that you need because the l

464
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.480
which is all self contained, like
you don't bring any weapons or anything like,

465
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.480
I never felt like I had to
really do those. But I also

466
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.400
feel like the upgrades are so worth
it, like there's kind of no question.

467
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.000
I mean they're not They're not extremely
difficult, And it does just seem

468
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.119
like that game has been set up, like with the trap rivets and they

469
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.440
yeah, like too, that was
basically all I ever used, or the

470
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.240
primary thing I used were the trap
rivets for dealing with and it's like,

471
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.960
well, obviously we have given you
the tools to do all of that stuff.

472
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:04.759
I just I don't know, like
some of that stuff seems like it's

473
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.519
happening a little too often for me, Like oh, here we go again.

474
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.640
All right, just kind of back
it up and let's get into a

475
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.920
big fight. But it's it's different
for sure. And then they make you

476
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.599
feel when you have the drill and
you're all powered up, like you're mowing

477
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.400
into guys pretty much. Never used
the drill. Oh, I just thought

478
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:22.799
it was useless. I powered it
up. It's not bad. I don't.

479
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.200
I don't like the jelly that comes
out of everyone when you use it.

480
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.599
It just looks awkward when you use
this. I hate I hate the

481
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.279
dual wheel thing. I hate thinking
about my dude running around looking like that,

482
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.319
like with with one hand up and
the other hand like with with the

483
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.720
thing like he's some kind of like
a magician, like every time he does

484
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.079
something like this, Yeah, like
every time he has to. Like so

485
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.920
he's got like a giant, you
know, machine gun on one hand and

486
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.079
the other hand is just up like
this, and he's got to reload his

487
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:53.680
plasmid in his hands. He pulled
it back and pushes it forward. Uh.

488
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.279
I just I can't help but thinking
like third person mode, like,

489
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.559
man, this must look really stupid, Like it looks okay now because I

490
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.000
have two weapons. Yeah, but
dude running around, Like if I had

491
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.319
a mirror right now, I'd probably
shoot myself. I don't know if you

492
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.119
think about any first person shooter where
it's like I'm a little gun point this

493
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.240
around what's over there, and I'm
holding it up high enough that it is

494
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:16.119
clear in my eyeline. So it's
like, you know, he's holding like

495
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:20.680
chest level to a dude, I'm
at his crotch. Yeah. And also

496
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:24.200
yeah, also you're two and a
half feet time. Uh so all right,

497
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.640
so my nervous then was was great
and I think it was definitely worth

498
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:30.200
the price. So is it is
it just like I just have to play

499
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.480
it because every time either of you
have talked or anyone I've heard talk about

500
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.519
it and say that it's good refuses
to get into any specifics. Slow build,

501
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:39.640
I mean, you start off with
a bunch of new characters you've never

502
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:44.599
seen before, and they really slowly
and methodically develop them and make them feel

503
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.720
like real people. Like the writing
is just is fantastic. But I mean,

504
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:51.359
but it's it is to be clear
like this is this is BioShock.

505
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.680
This is as far as like tone
and execution up picking up audios to kind

506
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:00.559
of build this story and by the
end of it. Uh, it is

507
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.359
a it is a great piece of
short storytelling. Yeah, it's just it's

508
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.000
just like it's this is some really
good BioShock. I've seen it described on

509
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.880
message boards. Is like this could
be the first installment of like a Tales

510
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.519
from Rapture, you know, yeah, put out like a collection of short

511
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.200
stories like this would be. It's
very nicely maybe it really really is.

512
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:21.480
Yeah, just a short story okay, and really just a really really well

513
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:22.960
told story. I want. I
bought it and meaningful like ten bucks.

514
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:29.279
And like Brad said, you really
don't have to have the history of its

515
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:32.039
BioShock too to enjoy it. Well, I played Boo, so you'll doubly

516
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.680
enjoy it or hate it, right, I mean yeah, it is like

517
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.039
a full plot arc from start to
finish. Also, it has an old

518
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:42.319
arcade game and that you can play. Yeah, totally does it all my

519
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:46.319
favorite nineteen forties arcade games. Yeah, it's sweet Underwater Arcade, Classic Robotron

520
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:51.799
nineteen eighty four, sub Rock three
D Machine down there. There's also there's

521
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.119
there's an audiologue that goes along with
it. What are the guys talking about?

522
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.279
Like, Hey, the engineers whipped
up this thing, and what's what's

523
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:05.599
the main dude from Rapture Andrew Ryan, Yeah, yeah. Aaron rand says

524
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.760
we should shut this down because not
pulling its weight. So they blow it

525
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:15.920
up and then you play Minor nineteen
forty nine. Er Oh Boy also played

526
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:22.679
Undead Red Dead's DLC, another one
that was getting your d on. Well.

527
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.239
It was one of those things where
like, you know, we're gonna

528
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:28.760
be talking about this stuff soon,
let's right out. Also great, it's

529
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:32.519
just not playing this stuff people aren't
recommending. Let's say, so that one

530
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.079
seems weird to me. I've heard
only good things, but it seems so

531
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:40.760
odd. It's what what makes it
work? Like you played Redemption, loved

532
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:46.039
it, Like that's got a very
serious Western tone. Does this goes like

533
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:50.800
as far as the tone goes,
same setting, same characters, but this

534
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:54.760
this basically does that, but does
a zombie version of that, Like it

535
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:58.760
was a seventies horror movie. Okay, so this doesn't exist in the same

536
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:00.880
year. This is like Twilight.
It's it's bizarre because it does and it

537
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:07.079
doesn't. Certain characters are alive that
that might not be. Uh, there's

538
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:12.079
certain characters coexist that might not otherwise. It doesn't start after the end.

539
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:16.000
No, it's it's so weird because
but but but you you would benefit from

540
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:21.960
having finished the story, absolutely absolutely, But it's yeah, it's it's it's

541
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.159
a very weird expansion. Seems like
a parody or something super to Yeah,

542
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:30.800
it's got like real B movie sense
of humor. It's really interesting, and

543
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.119
it just seems like an odd move. It doesn't. It seemed like it

544
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.280
was gonna it seemed like it was
just gonna be like bad zombie shit,

545
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.679
like just try out more zombie stuff
because he's are hot right now, right

546
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:44.280
right, it's not really smart,
it's it's yeah. And the voice work

547
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:49.800
is back again, like that voice
work everybody, and and the it just

548
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:54.280
reminds you how great a character John
Marson is. For like when he's encountering

549
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:59.119
zombies, he still works. Yeah, and he's just like it's kind of

550
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:05.480
semi serious dude encountering all this ridiculous
attached like resigned to his face. He

551
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.199
he, he observes and acknowledges that
all of this is a ridiculous situation as

552
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.320
it was in like the main story, like whenever insane show would happen,

553
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.559
be like, well, well that
happened, So I guess I'm just gonna

554
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:17.159
have to deal with it, sir. I think he's always very polite,

555
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:22.679
do you see me, polite to
the zombies, like I'm sorry, full

556
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.239
of quips, repeat him like every
time you kill and loud zombies. He's

557
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.360
got some ridiculous one line that's so
funny. That was my favorite rock Star

558
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:35.599
game, like Bought by a mile. Yeah, it's quite good. It's

559
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.199
quite good the original I mean,
so it's not without the it's flaws.

560
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:43.480
I think. I think there are
some things in it that are reminded me

561
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:47.480
what I did not like about Red
Dead. Not to mention or to mention

562
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.760
briefly, this is some of the
weird buggy things that happened in Red Dead,

563
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.000
which were like just like literally riding
my horse, one of those apocalyptic

564
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:59.800
horses, uh, I think was
war So it's on fire. There's something

565
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.440
these dies, I don't know what
it ourom under right up the hill and

566
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:08.320
just died. Took, took,
took pestilence the one of the other horses

567
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:15.400
unhished and what riding literally spun the
camera road right into a lake. That

568
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.719
was the end of that. You
killed pestling meanwhile, like a second before

569
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.039
that, like it's like, oh, you got pestilence, his powers,

570
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:29.000
he can't die and like you haven't, so like some weird stuff. Also,

571
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:30.880
the protecting the towns, the fact
that they get overrun again, it's

572
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:36.920
really annoying. So I'm just kind
of trying to critical path and mainline my

573
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:38.440
way through the stories. Uh I
didn't. I didn't find this. I

574
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:43.119
had to go back maybe twice.
But at a certain point I just got

575
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.760
tired of the Like I just don't
want to go and clear out another But

576
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:47.840
it doesn't really actually impact anything if
you let one of the towns get taken.

577
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.719
So, oh it doesn't unless you
want that achievement for having all the

578
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.719
town saved at the same time.
Yeah, it will impact that because if

579
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:58.400
you take a town and you let
it get taken back and you don't fight

580
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.679
again fresh whatever, and even when
that happens, you can still get the

581
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:06.360
achievements. Yeah, so do all
the story and stranger missions. That's kind

582
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.079
of what I'm doing right now.
So the main game that I spent most

583
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:14.760
of my time playing that I wanted
to really make it through was Enslaved and

584
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.199
Journey to the West. Very curious
about that one, so was I?

585
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:25.559
Yeah? Less so now he's finished. Really, yeah, did you play

586
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:29.519
it? I didn't play it,
No, because I've been waiting for like

587
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:34.199
a price drop and to get more
opinions. It's definitely actually yeah, I'm

588
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.360
waiting for five. It's by no
means a terrible game. By no means,

589
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.280
I'd say it's a it's a pretty
damn good game. I say,

590
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:45.559
a really good game. Yes,
solid. Uh No, No, I'm

591
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.599
saying it's okay. I'm saying that
I like the game. You like Okay.

592
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.239
No, I'm saying it's very it's
a it's a game that was crafted.

593
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.880
Hey, it's a real game.
This is definitely a game. This

594
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.840
it came in a box. There
was a disc. Uh, it's a

595
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.679
folded sheet of paper that was like
a manual you can fight and jump.

596
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.519
I don't know, but I definitely
did not. I did. It did

597
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:15.599
not hook me in some ways that
I think it has hooked other people down

598
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.800
a little more. For me,
it was the ending, wasn't it admitted?

599
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:23.400
Yes, totally absolutely. Yeah.
Well, it's more like perplexing.

600
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.960
It just comes out of nowhere.
It's not only that, it's the the

601
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:31.679
story build up to there is kind
of non it's not very engaging. So

602
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.360
you're doing all these things waiting for
the big payoff, right, and you're

603
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.679
like, all right, all right, we're gonna keep going. This is

604
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.199
gonna end something messed up, hold
up, something crazy? Yeah. Uh,

605
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.800
and then you're like, what's and
then the worst part was and this

606
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:50.840
is again its games Okay, it's
not terrible. Uh, you beat it,

607
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:52.599
you beat this chapter, and then
Phase of Black comes back up.

608
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.119
Epilogue, totally unplayable epilogue that lasts
for a while, gives you the end

609
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.599
of the story and then rolls credits, so like you're you're kind of just

610
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.599
like it's kind of anticlimactic, and
it feels like there should be another hour

611
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.760
of it. Yeah. I don't
know where more gameplay would fit in.

612
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:10.199
I just feel like the events will
follow the end of the gameplay are are

613
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.320
baffling, and it's hard to talk
about it because you totally spoil this ending,

614
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.079
which I don't mind spoiling really,
but maybe some people would. So

615
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:21.239
here's here's the weird. Goku rides
away on his cloud and someone with a

616
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:23.599
scouter says something like, what,
No, I have a feeling that there

617
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:30.519
is an issue of the the veracity
of reality in this world anything like that.

618
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.320
No, it's not the matrix or
anything. Okay, it's I'm gonna

619
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:39.840
disagree with that. Okay, the
matrix. No, you are not in

620
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:49.880
the matrix. There is plenty to
be compared to you world there. There

621
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.880
is a very strong matrix connection to
that game. Sure, but it's kind

622
00:40:53.920 --> 00:41:01.440
of irrelevant to the game, which
is us because you get to the ending

623
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.719
and they're like, check this out, by the way, and you're like,

624
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.840
yeah, this is irrelevant to ninety
percent of the shit we just did.

625
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.880
I don't know if it's an issue
with the source material because it's based

626
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.920
on that you know, that old, old ancient Chinese tale which is essentially

627
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:19.400
I'm pretty sure the Matrix was not
story whatever. The story is basically a

628
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:24.760
red slave even soaking in it,
attaching slaves at the bottom of your feet,

629
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:30.679
draw the poisons out. Uh yeah, it's basically a road movie.

630
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.679
It's like characters going from A to
B to C trying to get somewhere.

631
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.880
And then it sounds like the issue
is just what is like sounding issues between

632
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.440
B and C somewhere. Well,
the issues is definitely d when you get

633
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.639
the CF they got to the end
of that journey and they're like shit when

634
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.679
we do that. We got to
come up with an ending the Andy Serkus

635
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.400
and the ending. The ending is
let's get Andy Serkis in a room and

636
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.639
put him in front of a camera
and let him talk for trying to wrap

637
00:41:52.719 --> 00:42:00.679
this up for us, Andy don't
have any just freestyle. We cut around.

638
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.519
We got plenty of yards here.
Uh So all of that being said,

639
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:09.760
the character not as it were,
The characters are are exceptional. The

640
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:14.800
voice acting Andy Serkus deserves something for
this because like it is, it is

641
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:20.360
is excellent voice work, which city
deserves a circus. I think if the

642
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.360
games had to be out by,
was it like eleven twenty eight to be

643
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:29.239
considered for the vgdas. Yeah,
it's a shame because I don't know that

644
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.239
it was considered. Well, it
was considered and didn't make it well.

645
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:35.599
I can played it at e three
and thought it was not good. So

646
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:40.440
that's yeah. So like it I
thought, the acting and the characterization,

647
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:45.920
the building of the characters is great. Uh what they were building towards kind

648
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:51.239
of sure crap. Uh you do
kind of run into a brick wall there

649
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:59.719
at the end. Actually, I
mean, I'm enjoying this because it's letting

650
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:02.000
me know, like, Okay,
temper your expectations. Yeah, I know,

651
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.079
like these parts will be good,
I know what, you know,

652
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.559
what to expect out of this,
and it's a fun game to play,

653
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.320
like, you know, not to
worry about the end. It's not gonna

654
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:14.159
like it seems. There are parts
of it that remind me of and Charted

655
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.199
in the kind of the characters ligery, like this is fun. These characters

656
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:19.840
are fun to me around and like
this is a this is great banter and

657
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:23.719
like great digue. Yeah, good
dialogue, and then the gameplay some parts

658
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:27.760
just remind me of and chart and
be like I charted its way better than

659
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.039
this. This is this is this
is kind of clunky here. There's some

660
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:34.679
weird animations. Dudes, Dudes are
are hitting spots where that you're taking me

661
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.440
out of the game, like you're
totally you're losing me. But from what

662
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:43.199
I've seen though, like I just
don't think anyone beats Ninja theory for characters

663
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.559
they look not just for the way
they look, but for the the animation

664
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.360
and the and I know it's a
lot of its stuff. So that's you

665
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.559
know, they're just using tech to
get around the hand animated. There's one

666
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:57.880
part of pig Pigsy who they do
a lot of tight shots on their face

667
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:04.800
and like you really can read the
kind of emotional which which is pretty remarkable.

668
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.119
It's tough. Yeah. At the
same time, there are only three

669
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.719
speaking roles except for well, well
Andy Serkis does like there's like five,

670
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:15.239
but Andy Serkis is like three of
them. Yeah, Like there's there's a

671
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.199
small economy of characters, but they
get a ton of mileage out of it.

672
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.239
Do you think Andy Serkis should just
start his own dev studio. Well,

673
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:22.159
at one point I was like,
you know, he's doing a really

674
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.320
good job here. His accent is
a little weird, but he's he's pulling

675
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.519
it off because he's like this weird
future Brooklyn. Yeah. Yeah, it's

676
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:31.119
like this accent, uh, and
it's like, Okay, it's kind of

677
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:34.599
weird, but he pulls it off. And and like I said that,

678
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.639
there are things in it that are
great. He screams when he needs to

679
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:39.880
screen, He yells at people when
they're far away. Like that kind of

680
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.079
stuff really plays well into the game, where like the worst part of any

681
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.599
vo or kind of a thing to
take you out of game is when dudes

682
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:51.280
are talking normally and they're like miles
apart kind of thing, or like hey,

683
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:52.760
come over here or yeah, or
like they're climbing a wall and they're

684
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.599
just talking normally when they should be
grunting or or doing you know, or

685
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.360
you know, they're in a helicopter
and they're just speaking it. Yeah,

686
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:00.760
you're speaking, not trying to yell
over the rotors. So I feel like

687
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.480
all that stuff is actually kind of
captured in the game, where like they

688
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.320
need to be quiet, they're quiet, and then when they're exerting themselves are

689
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.800
actually talking, like they're huffling when
you have an actor, Right, what

690
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.960
am I doing now? If you're
climbing a hill? Okay, imagine he

691
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:20.000
also probably had to Actually he just
wears the pantomime that he wears ping Pong

692
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.599
pong pong ball suit entirely now all
the time. That's the only thing that

693
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.800
was weird for me is I felt
like maybe he was trying too hard,

694
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.280
Like, and that's purely vinny because
who's anti Serkus. He's the dude who

695
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:35.360
played Gollum, So like that's the
only I brought that to the table that

696
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:37.960
is not Enslave. That is like
all the behind the scenes documentary stuff of

697
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.000
Lord of the Rings and like the
kind of andwerkus shows he did that.

698
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:45.079
I mean, he's been attached to
Ninja Theory. He did that for Heavenly

699
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.719
So, but he was he was
like their director and he did some like

700
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.360
main acting parts for that. But
it seems like he's just entrenched at a

701
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.920
ninja theory. Yeah, he's got
a couple of cars, is what you're

702
00:45:54.920 --> 00:46:00.840
saying. I just pull behind him, Mike though, that's right. He

703
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:07.199
kind of looks like that. So
yeah, yeah, so I would recommend

704
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.800
that game, but not in the
context that I was being told, not

705
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.760
by Brad, but buy a lot
of people like this is my game of

706
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.159
the year. Like I'm not saying
I'm just not saying that from Enslaved.

707
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.960
I was surprised. I heard the
same thing with some people saying like this

708
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:23.480
is one of the best games I've
played a really long time. Yeah,

709
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:30.159
those people are No, it's just
an idiots, maybe freaking dopers. They

710
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.159
had a different experience than somebody.
You're asked to try playing games for once,

711
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.599
Why don't you also, the frame
rate would just drop over. It's

712
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.960
like it's like they've never seen a
video game before and they just decide,

713
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:45.079
oh, there's the post one I've
seen one. Get out of my face

714
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:57.039
with that, Oh so tune in
for the quality. Could expect someone's smeared

715
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.719
poop on the bottom of the nice
work guy. Even they wrote StarCraft two

716
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:07.559
on it. Oh man? So
that was Yeah, that was me going

717
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:09.480
through my stack of a stack of
things I needed to play. And I'm

718
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:14.599
glad I did a lot of big
winners there, and even with Enslave being

719
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:21.320
not living up to the still,
I actually want to ask both you and

720
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:23.320
Brad, how do you guys feel
about, you know, knowing that these

721
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:28.239
guys are going to be doing the
next Devil May Cry? Having seen this

722
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.880
as as Ninja Theory's most recent game, Brad Shuemaker, like, am I

723
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.199
more interested in it? Yeah?
Do you feel absolutely? I mean,

724
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.119
I don't really care that much for
Devil May Cry like that style of character

725
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.400
action or whatever you want to call
it, but like no one that these

726
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.800
guys can bring these kinds of dramatic
chops to it. At least want to

727
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:52.840
see what they do with it.
Sure was the alternative They're gonna ruin it.

728
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.199
No, I'm just wondering if there's
anything specifically Devil May Cry has becomes

729
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:02.239
about about what Enslave does that if
they can, if they can do the

730
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:07.239
characters as well as they do for
everything else, that is a great thing

731
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.199
for Devil My Cry because I feel
like at this point that series is just

732
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:14.360
making fun of itself, like it's
I'm not a big Devil May Cry person,

733
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:16.519
but those games seem like they went
crazy. Mister Green, have you

734
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:23.280
ever we are apparently the four of
us just just I don't hate it,

735
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:29.719
but just like don't care for it
one way games. Yeah, it'll be

736
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.920
interesting to see old men who don't
like It's never been my kind of game.

737
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:39.960
But you know what, Bayonetta,
I like to match three jewels a

738
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:47.760
cup of coffee. Yeah, so
that's pretty much. It jumped into World

739
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:53.920
of Warcraft or a little bit.
That game is old, that came out

740
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:58.320
a long time ago. Does it
feel old now? I didn't when I

741
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.119
first looked at it, Like when
I first logged in and I was like,

742
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.000
cool, I'm gonna subscribe and you
know, get my month or whatever,

743
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.599
and then I played it made its
like level fifteen and the one sitting

744
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:15.039
minutes I say, it was just
play uh but yeah, man, some

745
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.280
of it looks at old a lot. All of it looks pretty old,

746
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.519
and they've done a lot. Part
of the Cataclysm thing was that they were

747
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.400
going to redo. I think they
have pushed the specs up, but I

748
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.719
think that just might be some areas
already larger, you know, and more

749
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:31.280
taxing that way, not necessarily redoing
all the graphics. And it's it's not

750
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:36.920
necessarily the fidelity of the graphics.
It's what they're trying to do now in

751
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.639
that engine. And it's there's weird
things like that. That engine seemed like

752
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.599
it was never like the first time
I saw like flying mounts or some of

753
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.480
those, Like it's just something about
this looks like they didn't plan for this

754
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:57.760
year in the original world. So
it's all that suff It's like they have

755
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.159
you controlling like mortars, like you
know, aiming stuff, and like that

756
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:05.000
stuff just looks super weird. They
have things like so when dudes blow up,

757
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.719
they don't like miss or do anything
where they just kind of jib into

758
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.960
ribs and it's just like, oh, that's kind of weird. They have

759
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:13.920
like a lot of stuff where you're
just like hopping on the backs about the

760
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.280
horses. So you're just like,
you know, there's no animations for it,

761
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.760
so you're just like, you know, like a pop, Yeah,

762
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.480
whoop? Did you did you play
a Goblin? I was a wargan okay,

763
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:28.880
because the Goblin Race has actually like
a whole joust type quest at one

764
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.400
point, just talking about this,
yeah, where you're actually up in a

765
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:36.280
you know, in a some kind
of flying machine and you you're basically playing

766
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:40.320
jobs there three D. Which does
it work? Well? Yeah, I

767
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:44.719
mean it's problematic. I mean,
of all the things I've done in this

768
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.760
expansion so far and I'm actually really
liking it, that kind of didn't work

769
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:52.159
for me, so that Yeah,
so there's a lot of I understand,

770
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:57.079
yeah exactly. So there's a I
appreciate that they're trying to put some different

771
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.480
things in there, yeah, but
it just feels to me like these are

772
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.880
not things this was ever meant to
do, Like like the driving controls.

773
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.840
There are things in the worgan quest
too where you're like drive this thing around

774
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:09.599
and you're like, oh god,
this is this engine does not build for

775
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:13.639
action of any kind. Yeah,
for dice rolls, Yeah, and like

776
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.159
running around and sitting down and dancing
and like this is not there are no

777
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:21.800
physics on this vehicle for dancing.
How does the How does the Worgan Dance?

778
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.360
I think he's kind of like a
humans in the quick look it's how

779
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:29.000
does the Goblins Dance? I haven't
seen it. They have kind of a

780
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:32.079
goofy kind of you know, like
you would expect a goblin dance act.

781
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.840
It's actually real. It's based on
a story. I saw that. I

782
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.639
saw that. I saw that documentary
How the Goblins Dance? Yeah, right,

783
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:49.400
that kid's book. Several awards cap
for the Goblins. Yeah, So

784
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.360
it was weird and I played to
the level fifteen and it's kind of crazy.

785
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:55.960
They've changed so much stuff since I
was in there in like nineteen oh

786
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.440
five. You know, things have
changed incredibly and for the better, I

787
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:05.920
suspect, but I don't know if
I'm gonna renew. It's it's weird.

788
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:10.199
Uh, there's a server for Giant
Bomb. They've made a server for the

789
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:14.960
guild people and stuff, so I
might jump in there. Uh, always

790
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.880
more fun than play with friends.
And I was well, especially like in

791
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:22.639
a guild situation like that where you're
like I have fifteen minutes to actually play

792
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:27.199
this game, so I can rely
on my guild mates, like get give

793
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.119
me some cool shit so I can
go and actually let's go do something cool.

794
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:31.800
It definitely got to that point of
like, oh no, this is

795
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:36.400
I remember this. Go get me
fifteen of those you know Fox tales,

796
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.639
Like okay, great, now go
get me ten of those teeth, Like

797
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:44.480
oh man, why didn't you tell
me that before? Yeah, you just

798
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:46.800
give me, give me like a
grocery list of all the Fox parts that

799
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:51.599
you need. Why doesn't everybody get
together. We'll all talk about what you

800
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.960
need for the next hour and a
half and then we'll go fund and you

801
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.960
can even come with me if you
want. You know, everybody come,

802
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.440
let's go and search it out.
Just they do a lot of like having

803
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:06.599
these change following you along. Yeah, yeah, there was no mix it

804
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.079
up that way. Why aren't they're
just supermarkets with both parts? Yeah,

805
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:15.239
because you know, clearly there's nothing
Basically I switched to this weird Eve economy

806
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.800
system where you just sell parts to
a store and then other players can go

807
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.280
buy I run the store auction house
times ten. You should be able to

808
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:29.480
well, not all quest items,
not all Quest items, but certain the

809
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:30.639
cases where you can just go like
I'm just gonna go to the auction house

810
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:35.639
and buy five put these things.
And I've done that for sure, but

811
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:39.039
typically not the quest pelts. So
so yeah, I spend a bunch of

812
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:44.199
time in there, and uh,
it's always easy to do that. It

813
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:49.199
is looking much better than when I
when I left it years ago, but

814
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.360
it's still it's the World of Warcraft. If you if you were not into

815
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:55.599
World of Warcraft, you probably I'm
gonna go out and Limb probably will not

816
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.320
be that into Cataclysm. I already
have accounts for MMOs that I'm not playing.

817
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.639
I don't need to like start paying
for another lifetime. Yeah, or

818
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:07.880
if between Star Trek Online and Warhammer
already, oh yeah, I know.

819
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.079
I reinstalled my my Warhammer count so
I can. So you can go to

820
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.480
Gerstman Crypt more actively and die there
and they're like, all right out,

821
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:22.239
I could be more active in my
not playing. Yeah. So so I

822
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:25.599
will continue playing World of Warcraft for
a bit and then I redecide on January

823
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:31.159
fourteenth or whatever, hopefully before the
thing clicks over in auto renews, because

824
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:34.960
there's no way to just do a
month. You have to do the auto

825
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.840
or new thing. That's it just
it seems kind of crazy at this point

826
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:44.079
to be paying the fifteen dollars prescription
a month for a five year old game.

827
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:46.360
Six year old six Yeah, they
just had their six years. I

828
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.159
don't know. I mean, if
you've been playing all along and you got

829
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:51.440
your friends there and stuff, you
know, it's just like any well,

830
00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:53.119
it's I mean, it becomes that
social aspect of it. This is like,

831
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.719
well, obviously I'm gonna keep playing
this game with this group of friends,

832
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:58.719
and we're gonna keep to going.
I mean, it's it's only weird

833
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:05.360
because you expect act like the like
with tech with games specifically, you expect

834
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:10.320
kind of diminishing, reducing prices as
things move forward. But it's only as

835
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.840
crazy as people are willing to pay
for it, you know. Like,

836
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:20.719
I mean, I would expect them
to at some point and release a full

837
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:24.039
graphical update like a request style was
it was EQ one that did that.

838
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:32.039
I think I have to imagine that. Wow, at some points kind of

839
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.400
drag the whole game a few years
further. They don't want to go too

840
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:39.840
far because they want the game to
be continued to be accessible for for everybody

841
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:43.679
but one is still being played and
that game was a fraction of the size

842
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.199
of while right, So I mean, what's this game is gonna be around

843
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:49.960
for like twenty years or something.
Probably, Well, there's stuff is people

844
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:55.199
are still playing Ultimate Online somewhere somewhere
somewhere. They were bad. Their art

845
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:59.079
style is fantastic. Just baking bread
Man, just forever, just bit so

846
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:02.360
I'm doing bake and bread. The
art sounds great and that carries World Warcraft

847
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:06.199
really far. Yeah. I mean
even when it came out, it wasn't

848
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:09.000
cutting edge, but it was all
like they yeah, yeah, and that

849
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:13.599
stuff looks great and and that's real
incentive to go and explore the world.

850
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:16.920
Uh, and this does look better
than anything has looked in the engine before.

851
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:21.360
But you do start seeing like,
oh man, that's like two polygons

852
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.079
or like you know that that crisis. Those wheels have you know, five

853
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:29.039
sides on them, Like yes,
yeah, I'm fully back in. You're

854
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.159
investing. Yeah, And I was
way out too. I mean I quit

855
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:37.960
for like sixteen months. I counted
the Well, let's just go to show

856
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:40.840
how deep in you were before.
They need to start making wow, like

857
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:44.880
the DMV, Like if you go
sign up and if you lit your your

858
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.639
ship laps, they make you pay
for all that. All right, we

859
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:54.199
stored your character for you. It
was all I had an eighty character and

860
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.559
I like forgot how to play him. It had been that long. Well

861
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:00.719
they probably reset all your stuff.
Well they had reset it the trees and

862
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.880
resets. All your plugin stopped working
and all that basically, so I had

863
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:07.079
to like basically relearn the game.
But but I got sucked back in by

864
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:09.639
the expansion or you know, the
patch that they had before the expansion sort

865
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:15.920
of previewed the new areas, and
now I have Cataclysm and they got me

866
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:19.320
back. So it sounds like it
sounds like you you were in fully,

867
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.039
took a break and then and now
I'm in fully again. Yeah I got

868
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:27.199
I'm trying to monitor it, but
I totally least one of you guys before

869
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:30.480
we recorded, Like I actually got
up early this morning to play. I

870
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.840
want to make some time. I
mean, I'm working at home, but

871
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:37.119
I but you know, I wanted
to be you know, yeah, no,

872
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.719
not at all. I just wanted
to but I figure, like nine

873
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:44.159
o'clock, I'm working at home,
but nine is fair. I can start

874
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:46.480
working at home at nine, so
I got up at like six so I

875
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:52.159
can play well to archive free.
How so, how far are you with

876
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:57.800
your Goblin? Well, the Goblin
is uh uh, it's like sixteen.

877
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.159
But then I also haven't I replayed
the Undai, which is not a new

878
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.599
race. But what I but,
you know, that was the appeal to

879
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.440
me, is they redid all the
old almost all the old zones. Yeah,

880
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:09.599
and they did redid the whole all
the quest lines. I mean it's

881
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:14.280
like basically they built a brand new
game inside the old world, which is

882
00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:15.559
what I think is so I just
kind of want to go see Van Cleef

883
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:24.719
again. Like that's line is absolutely
fantastic. The storytelling was was great.

884
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:28.760
You know, there's like at least
three cut scenes right in the middle of

885
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:31.760
this quest line that you're pursuing,
and uh and it's a really nicely told

886
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:37.519
story. I mean, they do
tell their their story well, and yeah,

887
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:40.599
there's there you could definitely see where
it's being pushed in terms of the

888
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:45.079
tech. But I feel like they
use what they've got like so smartly and

889
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:50.400
so creatively. I mean they really
you know when you go like I could

890
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:53.440
never go back to what World War
Craff was now after playing Cataclysm because like

891
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.199
the undead storyline is so it's so
neat, like they really put you,

892
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:00.519
you know, they do a good
job of like, Okay, you're a

893
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:05.679
character number one billion in in the
Undead world, but yeah, we're going

894
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:08.199
to give you thrall. You know, the orc work dude right next to

895
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:10.559
you, and you're gonna be going
around and doing stuff and yeah, sure

896
00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:20.599
there's like forty other dudes like right
also walking whatever bit. And by the

897
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:23.079
time that that whole main storyline is
done that you really feel like they kind

898
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:27.679
of took you almost through a whole
like a single player storyline at the point

899
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.239
where they release you into the into
the world at large. Well's it's what's

900
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:34.360
interesting. I think we may have
discussed this on this podcast in the past,

901
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:39.239
but the idea that it's I think
this this was something that that got

902
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:45.280
brought up back when the Matrix Online
was was being shut down. But with

903
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:50.719
Cataclysm, there is now you know, a significant, well remembered version of

904
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.000
World of Warcraft that simply doesn't exist
anymore, right, Like that's kind of

905
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:58.519
crazy. It is crazy, Like
they'll eventually put up like a pre patch

906
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:00.679
server or something like that. I
think other games have. You can't opt

907
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:04.639
out of that. You're like owned, they killed that world, and I

908
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.679
admire the Blizzard had, you know, kind of the balls to do that.

909
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:09.119
Well, I was thinking, I
think it's what that game needed for

910
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:13.920
sure. Everyone who's playing the game, you weren't. You don't want to

911
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:16.280
do the same. Yeah, you've
been through that stuff with eighteen characters already.

912
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:20.039
Genius. Really, it really is. But it's but it's it is

913
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:22.159
absolutely genius, but it's also complete, completely crazy. I think, like,

914
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.920
hey, remember when we would go
on that Van Cleef run. You

915
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.199
can't do anymore. You can't do
that anymore. I think they'll what game

916
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:35.360
still exists, but that part's been
gutted. What I would imagine the best

917
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.760
or easiest way for them to do
it is some kind of like quest or

918
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:42.000
mission or portal or something that's like
time travel. Question. Yeah, like

919
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:45.519
remember when like and you go back
to like the zone before it was ruined,

920
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:52.039
go back to Liberty City or like
maybe maybe young you know, they

921
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.519
he still doesn't talk. Van Cleef
is a high level man, right,

922
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:58.519
he is a high level Yeah.
They made that. Actually I don't know

923
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:00.880
what level it is, do you
know, Let's say he's like an eighty

924
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:06.559
five or he could be. So
that's the thing. There are no more

925
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:08.760
defy us in that area. They're
like generic bandits. Now it's going to

926
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:12.800
preserve the quests or whatever. But
like the defy us have moved on somewhere,

927
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.119
there are hold there, hold up
somewhere. I remember when when years

928
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:20.840
ago, when Chris Metzig was talking
about how he wanted to figure out a

929
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:22.360
way to change the world, like
for real, you know, like that

930
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:24.679
was a problem for him as a
storyteller. It was like, well,

931
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:30.199
oh, I don't doubt it.
Every twenty minutes someone's saving the world and

932
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:32.840
like, okay, wait for the
reset. They approached that goal with the

933
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:37.159
phasing stuff because basically give you a
chance to like temporarily alter a little pieces

934
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:39.440
of it. You know. I
don't feel like they get enough credit for

935
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:44.679
the phasing stuff because it is it
is like amazing how it works, in

936
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.719
which you know, the world that
you're in as a player is actually changing

937
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:52.199
as you're going through these quest lines, and the other people who are on

938
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.239
the same server in the same areas
you aren't seeing the same thing as you

939
01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:59.400
if they're not as far in the
quest line. It's kind of phenomenal how

940
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.760
they figured that out. And as
somebody like I really appreciate like narrative and

941
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.760
stuff in the games, and I'm
kind of turned off on that stuff is

942
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:08.400
not treated well, uh, the
early stuff, and that even the worgan

943
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:12.719
stuff has that in it where you're
like, you have now changed this portion

944
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:15.079
of the world exactly. Like if
they tell you to go set the town

945
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:19.559
on fire, and then you go
back to the quest giver when you come

946
01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:23.159
out, you know they've somehow reset
it for you, you know, on

947
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:27.000
on the client side, so that
the town, the town is permanently on

948
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:30.760
fire. You don't just sit there
and watch it on fire. But I

949
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:35.079
mean it's not like they can make
dramatic changes because NBCs, nos steed need

950
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:37.239
to like stand at the same place
and anything that a player could interact with

951
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:39.400
probably it has to be in the
same spot. So no, it does.

952
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:44.360
Okay, Well, then isn't that
a problem when you're trying to meet

953
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.960
someone somewhere you say, meet me
over by the this, and and they

954
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:54.840
and for them it's somewhere else.
Watch Internet Time Internet Time Problem Solved Stores

955
01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:59.800
twenty eleven. Catch It. That's
that is a good point, But I

956
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.639
know how that works. Good question. Magic. I did not realize that

957
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:06.800
that's how like that because I haven't
played Wow since they introduced phases. I

958
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:08.800
didn't realize that's how far that went. It's my understanding that you actually can't

959
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:13.400
see players who are in a different
version of oh, like the phase.

960
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.679
It's kind of constant instance. It's
like a like a world instance. Yeah,

961
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:22.079
you're like in your own mini instance
until you right with other people who

962
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:24.760
are in that, with other people
who are there at that same point.

963
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:28.639
Yeah, weird. I guess I'm
just gonna have to sign up and to

964
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.039
play a whole bunch of over the
holiday break. No, I know,

965
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:35.760
I'll see you guys later. Yeah, I mean, I'm playing it and

966
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:38.039
I'm digging it, but I partly
feel like this like humongous sense of dread,

967
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:42.239
you know, I feel it getting
deeper into you and you're just say,

968
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:44.679
oh no, not again. I
mean I actually leveled up the Sun

969
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:46.760
Dead Guy to twenty, and then
I realized I just wasn't happy with the

970
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:51.400
race, so I did it again. You know, like that he's got

971
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:54.480
along till your cash and that change
the race if you want the fifteen bucks.

972
01:03:54.800 --> 01:04:00.719
Yeah, it is you're right.
Shit time is money, Jeff Green

973
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.920
and anything else that you've been you've
been playing or you don't. You don't

974
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:08.639
have to, don't feel compelled to
plug anything. We have the Bejeweled three

975
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:11.559
now now quick, look, of
course I've been playing that stuff. But

976
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.239
I actually just finished Black Ops.
I just finished single player. I just

977
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:20.440
finished I just finished Blacks and I
really liked it a lot. Uh,

978
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:26.519
all the way through. We discussed
the ending a little bit. There's there's

979
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:30.440
some kind of hokey stuff. Oh
it's very hokey all the way through,

980
01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:35.760
hope, but but it goes for
a specific style of hokey for most of

981
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:40.360
it. With the conspiracy, Hey, Vinny, honey, ye, could

982
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.880
you tell me about the numbers?
Well, let me tell you about what

983
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:46.119
happened years ago. We stop messing
around and just telling me about the numbers.

984
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:47.880
Well, let me tell you about
what happened three years ago. Okay,

985
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:50.440
Well, let's go actually tell me
about the numbers. You won't believe

986
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:57.079
what happened to the story. Let
me tell you about something that someone told

987
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.400
me about World War two. Yeah, I mean, let me go into

988
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:05.199
someone else's flashback. Let me go
dam uh. Yeah it was all of

989
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:10.719
that was ridiculous. Agreed, I
don't hold up to scrutiny. But what

990
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:13.920
I liked was it was it was
just a roller coaster that I paid my

991
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.320
money for. Ye I will go
to the Call of Duty Black Ops Theme

992
01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:20.239
Park and you may now take me
on this ride an hour in Vietnam.

993
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:24.679
Okay. I feel like the level
of all the Call of Duty games are

994
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:27.840
roller coasters. They are just like, here is your critical path, run

995
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:31.159
down it, shoot dudes, and
crazy things will happen. I feel like

996
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:35.639
that there's a level of quality and
a level of ridiculousness that in a lot

997
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:40.159
of ways I feel like there didn't
hit. I feel like in a lot

998
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:43.199
of ways, the Call of Duty
games have been better at maybe hiding the

999
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:48.239
scripting than than some other games.
Maybe that's that's just you know, it's

1000
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:51.280
it's because you know, it's we
wouldn't criticize like games like Medal of Honor

1001
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:55.360
for having like scripting that was like
noticeably broken in some spots. This is

1002
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.360
like the scripting usually works. Yeah, but but I feel like, but

1003
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:02.360
I feel like every thing that I'm
doing is still just in service of the

1004
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:09.320
scripting. Oh absolutely, It's just
like go like push forward, I have

1005
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:12.639
to either it's but it's always this. There's this combination with the pacing of

1006
01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:15.519
those games where it's like I can't
sit still as much as I want to,

1007
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.320
nor can I run through things as
much as I want to, Like

1008
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:24.840
my my my desired speed is a
faster or slower than doesn't work? Then

1009
01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:27.599
how fast they want you to move
through these levels. So you're either going

1010
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.239
to hang back and run out of
AMMO or run forward and die. I'm

1011
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:32.119
gonna hang back and get killed or
run forward and get killed because that game,

1012
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:34.920
right, that game has a specific
box of If you're outside of this

1013
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:39.599
box, you're dying. It as
far as like your progress through the levels.

1014
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.719
And it always drives me crazy with
these games. Is it feels like,

1015
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.800
however many our tutorial they never stop
telling you, you know, you

1016
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:51.519
get to a door open, I
know by now, like but that's it's

1017
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:55.639
part of that whole, Like we're
just gonna we're gonna take you through this

1018
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.440
game all the way through. We're
gonna hold your hand from beginning to add

1019
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:00.719
though sometimes it'll it'll spring things on
you right when it's the first time they're

1020
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:05.079
introducing it, like the Blackbird stuff
where it's like, oh, you need

1021
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:08.280
to do this to save these guys. Oh well you didn't save them's another

1022
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:11.199
dead You're right, right, you
have to die first to learn how to

1023
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:15.920
do Yeah. Yeah, which was
the barrels. Yeah, we discussed the

1024
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.519
barrels, which I didn't have.
I didn't have any issues with. But

1025
01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.280
there's there's others. It's I think
it's you know, parts of it are

1026
01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:28.000
a fucking phenomenal looking game. I
agree with Jo. I thought that game

1027
01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:30.119
was fun all the way through.
Just to me, it was like Saturday

1028
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:33.920
afternoon, you know, on a
movie, you know, yeah, just

1029
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:45.480
action movie. Ye, Charlie Bronson. Just just enough cheese, just enough

1030
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:48.840
taking itself self seriously. Like,
but I agree with Ryan, there's that

1031
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:53.880
tonal shift in how seriously they want
you to take it up. You know,

1032
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:58.239
at the very end of the game, it's just like that, where

1033
01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:00.719
are we going? Don't know why? It's the America breakout right here.

1034
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:04.760
I can't. I can't. That's
the problems unfurled. Yeah, the problem

1035
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.960
is I can't tell like when they're
winking and nudging and when they're trying to

1036
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:12.360
be serious with their stuff. Yeah, when the tongue is like are you

1037
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.599
do you guys just think this is
badass, like legitimately, or you're like,

1038
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:16.880
oh man, this would be really
funny if we threw this in here,

1039
01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:21.479
like I it just I mean whatever
that that whole game is very ridiculous,

1040
01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:27.039
so I can't I can't find it
didn't that way like I played it

1041
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:30.720
like this is this is ridiculous,
and I'm enjoying it as a ridiculous game

1042
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:34.960
a lot. Jeff, can you
tell me about the numbers? Let me

1043
01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:40.720
let me tell you about my high
school. Okay, can you tell me

1044
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:45.880
about Alaskan accents? Because Sam Worthington
cannot know. Uh, I don't know

1045
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:48.000
what else. I should have just
talked like Sarah Palin the whole time.

1046
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:53.319
I enjoyed though that if nothing else, even if they weren't a hundred percent

1047
01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:58.000
successful with it, the nature of
the storyline and where they went with Black

1048
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:01.760
Ops just couldn't have and further from
anything else Call of Duty has ever done,

1049
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:05.399
which is refreshing and I really really
really enjoyed that part. I like

1050
01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:10.640
the whole It just felt very confident, like it just felt like a confident

1051
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:13.479
group of developers just saying we're just
gonna do all this shit. You know,

1052
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:17.119
John F. Kennedy is gonna be
by the way. Yeah, I

1053
01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:19.359
like, I admired that. It's
like, man, they just like got

1054
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:23.520
a big budget and they just went
for it. Yeah yeah, yeah I

1055
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:28.520
didn't. I didn't dislike it,
but baffling anything else, mister Green,

1056
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:30.600
trying to think since our last day, she'd do it on your iPad?

1057
01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:34.399
Dude. Yeah, I'm playing a
lot of iPad games. I love that

1058
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:36.960
device. I gotta say, what's
your what's your thing? Right now?

1059
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:42.800
Well, I got Infinity or Infinitely
Infinity Blade, Infinity Blade, I keep

1060
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:47.039
saying it wrong, which looks freaking
amazing. Yeah. Gameplay it's okay.

1061
01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:50.840
It's a shot with the sword right
right. It's better than Rage HD,

1062
01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:54.720
which was awesome. But as usual
with it, it's like a tech demo

1063
01:09:55.279 --> 01:09:59.840
always it's a tech demo with it
a great, beautiful looking one. H.

1064
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.439
I don't know. I'm playing the
same I pad games and everybody else's

1065
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:05.840
let let me turn you cats.
I don't want jump turns here. But

1066
01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:10.960
while we're on the topic, I
was turned onto this game by Ali Moss

1067
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:15.920
and I am obsessed with it.
It's called Wicki Hunt. It's like it's

1068
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:20.239
like two bucks. It's for the
iphunt Wick Hunt and it's fucking genius,

1069
01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:30.760
right, Okay, So basically all
they're doing is taking the Wikipedia database and

1070
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:36.239
the Kevin Bacon game and and structuring
it into a game. They randomly pulls

1071
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:41.600
two pages from Wikipedia and says get
from one to the other and as few

1072
01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:45.880
clicks as possible. That'sntil we were
totally going to do that for this website,

1073
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:47.680
Like that was on the list of
features. We were going to do

1074
01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:51.720
it long someone already broke it out
and use that that well, we can

1075
01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:54.920
beat them too. We can make
it part of the site feature and it's

1076
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:59.319
fucking fun. But the only thing
that it's missing, honestly is a timer

1077
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:03.479
because you can too easily obsess over
like like what is the perfect route,

1078
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:06.640
like because it's it's trying to judge
like the shortest route. But I feel

1079
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:12.039
what's more interesting is what's the shortest
route in the shortest amount of time that

1080
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:14.560
you can come up with, Because
if you have infinite time, you can

1081
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:19.439
just very specifically kind of route yourself
through the Wikipedia database like think ahead of

1082
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:21.680
a couple yeah exactly, But where
if it's just like you have to do

1083
01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:25.800
this quickly. I think it would
it would flourish from that, but it

1084
01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.560
doesn't do it competitively, Like does
it give you and somebody else the same

1085
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:30.640
two pages and it's like who can
do it in fewer steps? No,

1086
01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:38.000
but it knows what the ideal is
the game. The game knows what the

1087
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:42.439
right answer is for the fastest.
So that's that's the metric that you're going

1088
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:45.119
up against. So it's just like, get from this person's personal appeal to

1089
01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:49.000
this person's personal appeal. It's it's
get from this specific page to this specific

1090
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:53.800
page. So I'll pull one up
just to give you an example. But

1091
01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:58.399
it's a fascinating as hell. Is
it hard to do on the phone,

1092
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:00.720
Like now you zoom in and all
that stuff, and and it's it's using

1093
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:05.439
like mobile versions of the pages.
So there we'll use random. There's random,

1094
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:11.920
and there's clicks to Jesus. So
so the second page is always Jesus

1095
01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:15.239
Christ. So you have to figure
out how how many clicks from the random

1096
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:18.439
page that you're starting on to Jesus. Is there some message going on there?

1097
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:23.479
Everything leads to Jesus, right,
So we're starting off on Hebrew.

1098
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:27.199
We're starting off on the page well
he was he was too. Uh.

1099
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:32.319
We're starting with the pages for Bruto
Grassi, a Brazilian uh soccer player,

1100
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:41.079
of course, and we need to
get to the band or Snatch, which

1101
01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:45.279
is an alien species and Larry Niven's
fictional Known Space universe. I'm always trying

1102
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:53.960
to get that batch. I mean
so like he was actually a dev and

1103
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:59.279
one click, so having to figure
out like, okay, what would be

1104
01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:02.760
then and in the page to add
a link. So that's that is how

1105
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:10.359
how you can cheat it. He
died for your sins every time, Jesus

1106
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:15.680
Christ, who Wilse died for my
sins? Jesus? That was one other

1107
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:17.880
game I forgot to play. But
I believe you guys have talked about this

1108
01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:23.039
ad Nazi I think never stopped.
Yeah, we'll keep talking about There's nothing

1109
01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:28.119
naughtious about pac Man. It's awesome, so good. I'm saying, that's

1110
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:30.640
gotta be you gotta be talking about
that. And you gave me the year

1111
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:32.439
for something, maybe not overall game
of the Year, because it's weird to

1112
01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:35.800
give it to pac Man. It's
on some lists, it's coming some sort

1113
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:42.279
of list that is an amazing version. I just you know, I get

1114
01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:45.000
it's it brings me great joy to
be able to in like not even a

1115
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:48.720
nostalgic wade, but people say,
like, there's there's excitement in the world

1116
01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:53.479
of pac Man in twenty ten.
Yeah, the pac Man is somehow fucking

1117
01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:58.239
relevant. They can take those basic
rules and flip it into something so crazy

1118
01:13:58.439 --> 01:14:01.800
and it feels so modern along the
way the yeah, I love the little

1119
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:04.680
bullet time thing that got going,
Oh yeah, it's a little zoom and

1120
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:08.920
you're like, oh, I love
that. It's kind of not really about

1121
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:12.239
dying anymore. Like it's more just
about like your score. Well, it's

1122
01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:15.800
it's great because I feel like it
really represents, like in in in micro,

1123
01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:19.680
it represents, you know, the
changes in the game industry and the

1124
01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:25.600
way we approach games. It's not
about like this really difficult situation you're trying

1125
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:28.279
to squeeze out of. It's like, all right, you are kick ass.

1126
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:30.359
It's just a question of now,
how much more kick ass than everyone

1127
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:33.840
else? Are you? Right?
So it's you know, and it's it's

1128
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:38.359
interesting to see that stuff and the
speed and just the production values and you

1129
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:43.680
know, it's very smartly taking notes
from uh from Geometry Wars. It's beautiful.

1130
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:46.960
I don't have it for mething else
to say about Pacman other than I

1131
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:51.600
love pac Man Fever. It's back. Oh that's right. I do have

1132
01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:55.720
something else to say about pac Man
Fever. I have it. Yeah.

1133
01:14:56.039 --> 01:15:00.199
Also, Buckner and garcias smash hit
pac Man. The entire album is being

1134
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:04.720
made available on rock Band Network.
Really, Yes, that's do the Defender.

1135
01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:10.560
That's I think I'm going berserk.
That's that song about mouse Trap.

1136
01:15:11.960 --> 01:15:15.439
That's the whole album. Yeah,
I didn't know that. Yeah, hyper

1137
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.479
Space the song about asteroids. Did
the Ghost get their own song or no?

1138
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:23.079
No, pac Man Fever was the
only pac Man related cut. How

1139
01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:26.479
quickly can you get from Buckner and
Garcia to Jesus Christ? One click?

1140
01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:29.640
All right, pac Man Fever.
Pac Man Fever such a good song.

1141
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:35.039
It could have only been written by
Jesus Froggy's or yeah, Froggy's lament.

1142
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:40.920
That's a good one to a centipede. Centipedes, good do. The Donkey

1143
01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:45.199
Kong Due is probably the best non
pac Man Fever song on that whole album.

1144
01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:51.079
Hyper Space. Are these different bands
he performing? All? Yeah,

1145
01:15:51.079 --> 01:16:00.439
it's all them The Defender, Uh
huh, it's about Iraq mouse Trap also

1146
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.520
about ere mouse Traps, probably like
the one song on that whole album that

1147
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.800
doesn't fit because I remember mouse Trap. You know, it was a hell

1148
01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:12.640
of an arcade game, but it
is by no means a classic. Yeah,

1149
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:15.399
yeah, they totally just ran out
mouse Traps. Mouse Traps good.

1150
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:21.359
I don't know, I like it
going berserk YEP eight track eight track EP.

1151
01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:30.800
Nice being brought to network finally so
exciting. Sounds like they're running out

1152
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:35.439
of song. I wonder it's left. Most of those songs had samples from

1153
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:39.239
the arcade machines in them, and
I wonder if these are going to be

1154
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:43.720
remastered to not have that stuff,
if there's like there's gonna end of the

1155
01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:47.399
guys who are doing it, who
are doing the remastering or the programming or

1156
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:53.760
whatever. Uh contacted me so I
could ask them, Yeah, please do

1157
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:58.880
because if it doesn't have that,
no longer interested really, really, really

1158
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:03.760
really Jeff, what you've been playing
Bayonetta? You see you also for for

1159
01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:08.399
Game of the Year purposes, going
back through some of the best ones.

1160
01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:12.560
Yeah, how do you feel about
Bayonetta? It came is awesome? Wow,

1161
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:15.159
Yeah, I go saying, you
know, for someone who doesn't like

1162
01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:19.880
Devil May Cry. It's really weird
that that Bayonetta is so much better than

1163
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:26.399
any of those games have ever been. I feel it is. I think

1164
01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:31.680
that they have taken they took that
style of game and just made it as

1165
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:35.760
crazy as they possibly could in terms
of just like you know, you're the

1166
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:40.359
game opens with you standing on the
face of a clock tower that is currently

1167
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:45.439
falling out of the sky while you're
fighting angels that look like crazy deformed animals,

1168
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:48.199
and halos pop off with them like
sonic rings that you then pick up

1169
01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:51.560
to buy more stuff. But I
feel like the combat, you know,

1170
01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:56.960
it rewards skillful play, and it's
not as mashy as I always felt.

1171
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.319
Devil my Cry was. I was
going back because I was thinking about all

1172
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:01.520
this stuff I was. I went
back and reread my review for that,

1173
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:05.520
and I what I just reminded of, specifically is that it's not mashy.

1174
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:10.640
It's it's all about timing. Yeah, It's not about like how quickly can

1175
01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:14.520
I put in this button combo.
It's all about I gotta time my hit

1176
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:17.000
to be just right to you know, dodge or perry this guy's attack and

1177
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:20.680
then get in there with which time
and then start busting out the other combos.

1178
01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:24.720
And you know, if you start
using the kind of delayed attacks instead

1179
01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:27.199
of instead of just hitting punch,
punch, punch, kick, if you're

1180
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:30.520
eating punch, punch, punch,
pause and then kick at a very specific

1181
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:32.359
time, and you start doing like
why we're devastating attacks, So it actually

1182
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:36.640
rewards you for not just hammering on
buttons like a crazy person. Get way

1183
01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:42.359
naked, and get way more naked, and that rips the giant st heel

1184
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.920
comes out of the sky. Yeah, she's got the hair sut on her

1185
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:50.039
feet and she I think, I
think she's a great character for just as

1186
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:55.720
absurd as is the whole thing is
from her, just like proportionally to every

1187
01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:00.680
word that comes out of anyone's mouth
for that entire game, to just like

1188
01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:02.359
all the great weird Sega references.
I mean, right off the bat,

1189
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.520
they're playing Outrun music, you know, in a cut scene or something like

1190
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:09.119
that, just like one, and
it just goes deeper and deeper and crazier

1191
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:12.840
from there into the whole second catalog. I completely forgot that there was just

1192
01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:18.800
a straight up space that's awesome.
Yeah, it's uh, it's it is

1193
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:24.840
how they should be making character action
games from here on out basically. But

1194
01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:28.079
they can't just keep doing. But
they can't just keep doing. They can't

1195
01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:30.560
even do that a second time.
But that's uh yeah maybe maybe you You

1196
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:32.800
might be right. I think they
have to come up with some ways to

1197
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:35.119
change it up, maybe make a
co op or something weird like that.

1198
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:40.279
Who knows. But but yeah,
Bayonetta I think is a game that people

1199
01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:44.560
should absolutely play because it is messed
up, and you know, if you

1200
01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:46.600
don't want to deal with old timing
thing, they actually have much easier settings

1201
01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:50.880
on the difficulty where it'll just make
a lot of stuff automatic. So if

1202
01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:56.520
you just want to see something completely
insane, it totally serves that purpose.

1203
01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:00.000
It will hook you up. Yeah, it'll set you up with something completely

1204
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.399
They messed up but I don't even
know. And that's the either even better

1205
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:04.520
part when you when you start playing
it on very easy or something like,

1206
01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:08.800
I don't even know how that happened, but it was. I'm going to

1207
01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:12.880
keep mashing on this until the game
explodes. It's probably she might get all

1208
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.199
the way naked if I keep in
it. I don't know faster. Yeah,

1209
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:17.680
Vanish has got the same thing.
Yeah, Vang which has as as

1210
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:21.399
some of that same stuff. Look
into that auto mode and that essentially does

1211
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:25.359
all the aiming for you. You
just had to kind of generally move the

1212
01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:28.239
guy in the right direction and pull
the right trigger and it'll shoot everything.

1213
01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:30.760
I gotta, you know, give
it up for Platinum. I feel like

1214
01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:33.760
they had a you know, those
games didn't necessarily get a ton of attention.

1215
01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:36.880
I've ban it. I think probably
got more than than Vanquish did just

1216
01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:42.079
because of the time of year came
out. But great year for Platinum.

1217
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:45.439
Man, those guys, good for
them. It's good for them. Yeah,

1218
01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:49.159
pretty much the two Bright spots on
Sega's whole release list for the whole

1219
01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:54.520
years, you know, Bright spots
in Japan. Sure, yeah, yeah.

1220
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:59.159
I think the way things have been, it's it's been. And both

1221
01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:01.880
of those are games that are you
know, it's we talk a lot or

1222
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:06.640
there has been some talk about the
state of game development in Japan and and

1223
01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:11.760
you know, their struggles to deal
with the changing market and you know what

1224
01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:15.119
have you. But those two games, and it seems like Platinum is one

1225
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:25.000
of the rare developers that understands not
necessarily like got good or progressive game development.

1226
01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:30.560
They know how to make crazy Japanese
games that I want. They know

1227
01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:32.520
how to make, like they know
how to how to evoke what I think

1228
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:35.359
of when I think, like,
man, I want to really crazy Japanese

1229
01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:39.239
games, Like, then here is
what you want, is what we make.

1230
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:42.279
And I don't feel like I get
that from a lot of the other

1231
01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:45.960
stuff. That's it seems like Japan
has instead, like everything else has just

1232
01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:48.079
been like we're just reiterating on the
same thing over or you know, or

1233
01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:53.439
worse. I feel like there you
have too many Japanese developers that say that

1234
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:57.680
they're trying to trying to cater to
the Western audience and then not nailing that

1235
01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:01.079
either not knowing what that means so
yeah, or kind of cribbing the wrong

1236
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:05.279
stuff from popular Western games, and
you end up with the you know,

1237
01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:10.119
you end up with stuff like Lost
Planet two good Quantum Theory or quantum theory.

1238
01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:13.479
You know, there's like games that
just don't get it for and I

1239
01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:17.680
can't imagine that they're popular. Well
Lost Planet may probably, but but quantum

1240
01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:21.199
Theory. No one in Japan's playing
quantum theory either, right, He's playing

1241
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:24.439
the games. Yeah, like Vank, which at its core is a very

1242
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:28.600
serviceable cover based shooter. Yeah,
yeah, works as that kind of yeah,

1243
01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:31.000
but you know, come up with
the rocket lags later, they come

1244
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:33.920
up with with interesting concepts to lay
on top of it that that give it

1245
01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:38.319
a completely different feel from anything else
else out there, regardless of of where

1246
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:42.640
the development's done, and and that
stuff's really smart. I mean, you

1247
01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:45.319
know, it's like it's like Inafune
has been saying for a while when he

1248
01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:47.840
keeps talking about how Japanese game development's
dead, that's so much so that he

1249
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:53.720
had leave Capcom to do whatever the
hell he's going to do now or something

1250
01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:56.880
like that. It's it's you start
looking around at some of the games that

1251
01:22:56.960 --> 01:22:58.439
are coming out of there, it's
like, oh, yeah, maybe he

1252
01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:00.000
was right all along. It seemed
like crazy he talk when he first started

1253
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:05.720
saying it, But now you're yeah, maybe maybe how did this get out?

1254
01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:10.319
How did no one like pop up
and go like, dude, they

1255
01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:13.520
don't make games like this. And
here's why. I mean, Bayonetta has

1256
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:15.279
some of that, not the online
stuff, but you can see a lot

1257
01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:24.039
of traditional Japanese collectible and the kind
of unlock and menu system and the currency

1258
01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:27.720
stuff in it. But that game
the thing I appreciated so much about that

1259
01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.239
game. Was like every time there
was a look, like every time there

1260
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:33.840
was a decision to do something crazy, they said, no, think about

1261
01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:38.359
make it crazier, and then they
came back and they came back in there.

1262
01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:41.720
You want to do that's rope,
that's so silly. Turn it on

1263
01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:44.800
its head and they like you flip
it over and it's like literally turned the

1264
01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:47.079
head upside down. Yeah, and
then it's like, that's kind of crazy.

1265
01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:48.880
What do you think about her?
Over the weekend? You can make

1266
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:53.119
this crazier? Like what if I
added like a two more dragon heads?

1267
01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:56.000
That's kind of cool? He why
Heaven I have her earth there? And

1268
01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:59.079
why why is it on solid ground? Yeah? Could we throw this building

1269
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:01.880
through space? Sure? I mean
probably why is she standing? She should

1270
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:04.920
be like flying on a bullet like
okay, great, like and that's how

1271
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:15.159
like the level design process. Could
she be more naked here? And it's

1272
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:16.600
funny, it's funny, I mean, like to think back, Uh,

1273
01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:20.039
you know, people had conversations about
how Bayonetta was sexist at the time,

1274
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:25.239
and you know, I guess like
from like if you took a cursory glance

1275
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:27.880
at Bayonetta, I see why someone
will say that, but that game is

1276
01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:31.560
is equal opportunity, and it's it's
insanity. It's not that it's sexist.

1277
01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:34.279
It's not that it doesn't get women. It's that it doesn't get humanity.

1278
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:39.760
And it's not trying to write you
know, it's it's so far gone.

1279
01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:43.560
That's all. The women are like
super empowered and like two to a point

1280
01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:46.159
where I think they are the they're
Amazonian, for god's sake, like nine

1281
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.439
feet tall or yeah, they're they're
they're gigantic. But they're all running the

1282
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:53.880
show. Are The women are running
everything? The dudes are just like there's

1283
01:24:54.920 --> 01:25:00.319
in this think about it? Yeah, like you think, yeah, you

1284
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:11.439
think of like that is the least
crazy games. Yeah, the azz the

1285
01:25:11.479 --> 01:25:14.600
male characters in the game, they
are like it's the it's the scumbag fuck

1286
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:17.560
ups and the shopkeepers. Yeah that's
the best you get. Yeah, game's

1287
01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:21.920
crazy. Jeff Gersman anything else.
I also have been playing Vanquish, so

1288
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:26.920
it's been a lot of platinum.
Yeah, what do you think of Vanquish?

1289
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:30.560
I like it. It's uh,
it's it's really neat. It's really

1290
01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:33.720
well done. It's not amazing,
but it's it's a pretty serviceable, cool

1291
01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:38.600
kind of cover based shooter. They
do some interesting different stuff with it that

1292
01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:42.199
that you don't get out of you
know, many other cover based third person

1293
01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:46.520
shooters. But you know, it
is it is pretty similar to to a

1294
01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:49.640
lot of other stuff and in most
of the ways that count. Yeah,

1295
01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:53.800
so you know, hide behind stuff, except when you're hiding behind stuff,

1296
01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:57.520
you can hit a button to make
him smoke cigarettes. So you know,

1297
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:00.960
you also have rocket legs. Yeah, rocket legs. You can kind of

1298
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:04.840
slide up the stuff and boost around
and that's that's all pretty neat. But

1299
01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:11.720
it's no Bayonetta if I'm picking my
Platinum Games game of the year handily,

1300
01:26:14.439 --> 01:26:15.560
but yeah, that's pretty much it. I you know, I tried to

1301
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:18.960
get into Red Dead again because I
know we're gonna be talking about it,

1302
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:24.000
but it just doesn't do it doesn't
it doesn't do anything. Just you just

1303
01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:29.159
your distaste for the Western is so
profound that it's cloud judgment. I don't

1304
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:32.119
know, it's it's it's a lot
of It's just like, go home tonight

1305
01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:39.000
and finish Red so you could call
your best your favorite game of the year,

1306
01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:42.159
play this game under dress. I
just I go home and play the

1307
01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:45.479
whole Star fan in general. Usually
yeah, yeah, I mean, I

1308
01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:47.359
don't think every single game they've put
out has been amazing, but I think

1309
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:53.760
I loved Grand Theft Auto four from
like a storytelling perspective especially, I thought

1310
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:58.479
I thought that they did an amazing
job with that. But yeah, the

1311
01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:01.359
Red Dead's just, you know,
it's not a Western fan. I don't

1312
01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:05.079
dislike Western games, you know,
it's but it's not like there have been

1313
01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:11.199
many good ones lately. It's you
start and not not super huge on them,

1314
01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:15.359
so you know, maybe it is
just a style thing. But yeah,

1315
01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:17.439
I just don't want it. I
don't want to. You just don't.

1316
01:27:17.640 --> 01:27:20.640
Also, you just don't like old
stuff. New guns are better than

1317
01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:24.840
old guns. But it's one of
the many things that's so amazing about that

1318
01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:29.520
game. They made old guns feel
awesome. Brad Shoemaker, what have you

1319
01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:36.520
been playing? Thank Qushing And I
agree with everything he said about those games.

1320
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:41.520
Banda is at It comes on a
little strong, like mechanically. I

1321
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.399
don't know if you guys remember that
or felt that way. How do you

1322
01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:46.359
like too much? Too soon?
It's a little overwhelming with the like the

1323
01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:49.560
number of like like you going to
the menu and there's like six different books

1324
01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:53.199
that you have to read from,
and they don't explain what any of the

1325
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:55.960
information is that they're giving you.
And then you're picking up like eight different

1326
01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:59.640
kinds of collectibles that you're supposed to
combine into like ten other kinds of idol.

1327
01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:01.960
I just didn't worry about that stuff
until the game said like specifically,

1328
01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:06.039
hey you can do this, you
know right Well, that's when it's hitting

1329
01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:08.399
me that, Like, man,
I don't want to deal with that.

1330
01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:11.119
I just want to keep like whipping
stuff with my hair and jumping in the

1331
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:13.800
air. I don't remember the combination
stuff too much. You could, I

1332
01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:15.760
mean, you could do it.
You know, there were items you could

1333
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:16.960
buy. There were just like health
recovery items and stuff like that. You

1334
01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:21.439
also find things you can use to
make those I never felt like I was

1335
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:25.039
spending a huge amount of time,
Like some of the cut scenes are long,

1336
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:26.560
Like if you want to talk about
that, that's the other thing.

1337
01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:30.880
It's it's it's it's mechanically dense and
too much yappen. Even though the apping

1338
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:34.880
is hilarious, I know, it's
funny and bizarre and totally mind blowing,

1339
01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:38.640
but the gameplay is really good and
you want to do a lot of that.

1340
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:42.439
Yeah, and you will. Okay, don't don't worry, so you'll

1341
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:44.279
get your fill. I know,
I know there's a little bit of a

1342
01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:46.159
lead up, but it sucks hearing
this because I have to go out of

1343
01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:50.439
this room after this podcast and go
finalize my list. And it's okay,

1344
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:53.439
do you know what, Like,
I'm writing that game off because I haven't

1345
01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:57.079
seen enough of the game play because
it's super There are plenty of games I

1346
01:28:57.479 --> 01:29:00.119
like that list. Don't sweat it
because that's that's your person. But this,

1347
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:03.119
this seems like very easily be in
the top ten. That is why

1348
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:06.840
we keep had you had you chosen
at the time to make time for Bayonetta

1349
01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:10.640
and play it, it would have
been on your top ten. You made

1350
01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:15.319
your choices. You fucked up months
ago. You did really you do to

1351
01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:21.560
fix this. Now there's there's only
to get back in the diamond by playing.

1352
01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:29.000
There's always I'm not gonna get into
StarCraft at all. Yeah, it's

1353
01:29:29.039 --> 01:29:31.159
gonna happen Black Ops and Darksiders or
a couple others that I wish I had

1354
01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:34.199
played, But I guess, you
know, I think Darksiders is going to

1355
01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:40.079
be the game that everyone forgets to
put on their lists. Was the first

1356
01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:47.840
industry wide. It's gonna be too
is fun. That is not making my

1357
01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:51.199
list, but I was. I
was. I was playing with that a

1358
01:29:51.279 --> 01:29:54.880
lot because and again I was another
one where I was like I had to

1359
01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:57.319
go back and look at it again
because it had been so long. But

1360
01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:00.960
this is why we include. I
think that's the game that you guys all

1361
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:04.279
were crazy into that I'd just got
the han because you didn't get into the

1362
01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:09.520
like the kiting, like the toe
thing, like when I never got that

1363
01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:14.039
quite right. Once you can figure
out the rhythm for using your parachute and

1364
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:16.880
pulling yourself by the ground, you
could get anywhere. If I hadn't played

1365
01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:19.760
by on a commander, I would
probably be better at that, approaching it

1366
01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:23.920
like it's by a command, but
upside down, like no, I have

1367
01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:27.079
a theory that you didn't get a
handle on the horse riding and red that

1368
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.560
in the same sense like you gotta
psychoanalyze, like riding horses is kind of

1369
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:32.840
a pain in the in the ass
in that game. From it's it's it's

1370
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:36.800
it's a unique system for handling that's
to figure out like sort of the case

1371
01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:40.600
pressing the button. But once you
get it down and you don't even think

1372
01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:45.239
about it anymore. But it's kind
of tedious. I remember thinking that stuff.

1373
01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:46.840
I'm like, I wish I could
just not press this button. And

1374
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:49.479
there was a lot of trucking back
and forth. It would see Terry story.

1375
01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:54.520
Yeah, for sure, it's you
know, not without its flaws.

1376
01:30:55.159 --> 01:30:59.279
Did I play anything else this?
We played just a obscene amount of need

1377
01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:01.000
for speed Hoppers suit. Yeah,
a lot of that, just a disgusting

1378
01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:05.439
amount of that. That's a really
good game. That's a fun one.

1379
01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:09.560
It really is. I'm trying to
think what else and I've played that,

1380
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:12.960
the Doritos games with you. Oh, I played. I played through a

1381
01:31:13.079 --> 01:31:20.079
Grubbins on ice, the Costume Quest
dlcut quick look for that up now it

1382
01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:24.119
is. I guess I was expecting
something, and you know, that's what

1383
01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:28.760
I get for putting expectations on a
double fine game. I was expecting something.

1384
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:32.520
It's more explicitly, no, no, I just it's not. It

1385
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:35.880
wasn't. It's not an insult.
It's meant that they do things the way

1386
01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:39.560
they do things, and me saying
like I want it to be this.

1387
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:42.439
Oh, it's not that I'm disappointed, Like that's not anything that sounds like

1388
01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:46.439
a compliment. I was expecting a
more traditional like holiday story. Like I

1389
01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:51.439
thought the way that Costume Quest was
hooked into Halloween, I thought like,

1390
01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:55.239
oh, this is gonna be there, like this is how we hook into

1391
01:31:55.479 --> 01:32:00.600
Christmas or something. It is incidental
that that game takes place when it's snowing.

1392
01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:03.760
It's like you're doing Halloween stuff in
the snow. Most of what I

1393
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:06.319
saw you weren't even in the snow. Well yeah, for one thing,

1394
01:32:06.399 --> 01:32:10.439
you started off most of the game
not in the snow. Uh. And

1395
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:13.760
another thing, you're I mean,
you're in an alternate dimension. Oh so

1396
01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:18.760
there is no Christmas or or anything, not even holidays, no quanza,

1397
01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:23.560
there's no Christmas, Nona. How
many clicks to Jesus? Yeah, seriously,

1398
01:32:24.279 --> 01:32:26.159
I know I can. I'm gonna
call a couple of people and they're

1399
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:32.359
gonna be very upset about this.
Jesus two hours, three hours talking like

1400
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:39.520
k L. I see, like
there's some new costumes that are delightful.

1401
01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:42.279
The Pirate was pretty cool. The
Pirates pretty cool. You get some you

1402
01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:46.680
get a giant eyeball and get a
oh the giant eyeball is fantastic his his

1403
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:53.479
like super charged up attack, so
Goodson's Quick three Arena Giant Eyeball has been

1404
01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:57.560
so well represented. It's a I
don't want a good month for Giant Eyeballs.

1405
01:32:58.279 --> 01:33:00.439
I don't want to spoil it,
but it's a it's an a great

1406
01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:02.399
little piece of business. You always
you know what the insidious thing they did

1407
01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:05.159
with that game? I do?
They robbed you of your s rank,

1408
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:09.600
No, didn't. Well you got
it again, they get it, Well,

1409
01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:11.439
you got it back. Yeah,
that's the thing. You have to

1410
01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:14.000
go get the DLC if you want
that. Oh yeah, yeah, I

1411
01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:15.640
know, I I want God,
it wasn't that hard either. As something

1412
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:18.920
insidious about adding achievements to games after
they've been released, Actually, that's not

1413
01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:24.720
the insidious thing. The insidious thing
is that that game contains the biggest in

1414
01:33:24.920 --> 01:33:30.560
game advertisement for another game since ask
me about Loom. They there is a

1415
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:35.680
game, there's a giant There's a
room, a hidden room in uh Grubbins

1416
01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:43.199
on Ice that is dedicated to promoting
uh was stacking stacking right, the next

1417
01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:47.880
downloadable sting adventure, speed stacking adventure, stacking cups. That's it. That's

1418
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:51.560
that's okay. But what's No,
it's not actually like how dare they?

1419
01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:57.520
It's more of like it is in
the ask me about loom style of being

1420
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:01.520
cheeky and and I have to imagine
that that was deliberately in their minds when

1421
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:05.239
there's an unscuppable trailer for stacking at
the beginning. Oh well, actually one

1422
01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:11.000
of the achievements is finding that room
and getting I'm getting Hay getting advertised too.

1423
01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:15.000
So they do give you incentive to
go and hunt down and find this

1424
01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:19.520
place. Uh so I did that. I did the Toritos games. That's

1425
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:23.880
what I played. That's what I've
been playing. Let's talk about news,

1426
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:30.640
gentlemen. I understand there was well
the vas having the Spike vga's were this

1427
01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:35.359
weekend and Jeff Gersman as a as
a judge on the Spikes, Judge,

1428
01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:39.640
do you feel represented? Do you
feel like you're how do you feel about

1429
01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:43.600
the all your fault? What did
you do? The only judge who was

1430
01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:49.159
your favorite human female? It was
the lady from Mass Effect too, Miranda's

1431
01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:53.600
Yeah, Miranda from Aspect two.
That was mine. I don't know what

1432
01:34:53.680 --> 01:34:59.159
anybody in this room know who I
do not know what the winners were another

1433
01:34:59.319 --> 01:35:02.359
Red Dead one of the year.
Yeah, yes, uncharted three. Uh

1434
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:04.600
so yeah, what are you in
the desert? Now? Is in the

1435
01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:10.239
desert? Well, or at least
that's their pitch. But the footage they

1436
01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:12.720
show of the game, he's all
over the place, just like any other

1437
01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:16.600
yea, what is he going after? Do you remember? Is that idea?

1438
01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:23.880
Uh? No, Diamond, it's
yeah, I don't know. Famous

1439
01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:27.319
No, no, no, it's
the Atlantic, the Atlantis of the Sands,

1440
01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:32.359
which san Atlantis. Yeah, it's
actually not, it's not. It's

1441
01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:35.319
not far from Atlantis, is that
right? Yeah, it's like right next

1442
01:35:35.319 --> 01:35:40.840
to the street. It's right the
street from the left. Yes, Atlantis

1443
01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:47.439
is nearby. That's where freaking brainstorming
session. It's Atlantis under the sands.

1444
01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:53.439
Big high fives around the wicked make
it someone just running in with like a

1445
01:35:53.520 --> 01:36:00.600
really old stead volume from Encyclopedia.
Guys, I've got it some kind of

1446
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:05.520
some kind of miss called knife you
could find there, Probably not, Jimmy,

1447
01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:09.960
one of those up real quick like
done where they'll be blue guys,

1448
01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:19.039
guys, talismans. You know,
we're thinking of going double on the oncs.

1449
01:36:19.079 --> 01:36:23.680
The fewer tiaras. The tiaras didn't
really focus well, but we all

1450
01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:29.319
say that. We joke in Jess
because we love I just want more ancient,

1451
01:36:29.479 --> 01:36:32.600
impossible machines, that's all. I
like it when I walk into a

1452
01:36:32.760 --> 01:36:38.199
thousands year old tune and press my
hand up gently up against some surface and

1453
01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:41.920
then suddenly like seven or eight and
two, Yeah, the giant, huge

1454
01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:45.359
statue that you had to climb up, and like, miss, why would

1455
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:47.560
you build this? Yeah? Why
would you know? What? I was?

1456
01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:54.840
Actually I was playing some I was
playing some of the U the Romulus

1457
01:36:55.760 --> 01:37:00.479
Cave missions in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
Oh yeah, that's definitely stuff in there

1458
01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:03.159
there. I'm like, where there's
stuff, where there's like active where there

1459
01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:08.359
is some worker like sitting on a
platform somewhere, But all that's surrounding this

1460
01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:14.079
platform are these precarious fucking like jung
jungle gym bars and stuff that someone has

1461
01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:16.119
to like leap and backflip into him. Like how did this guy get up

1462
01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:20.399
here? This guy's just trapped on
this little tiny thing. Help me.

1463
01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:26.359
He's like painting or a sandwich.
Please, I've been up here for way

1464
01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:31.119
too long in this weird stone tower. It's even weirder when you're doing stuff

1465
01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:34.680
like that as Desmond. Oh yeah, so it's just like that many hundreds

1466
01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:39.359
of years older and it's like it
still works. Oh yeah, yeah,

1467
01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:43.159
that's that sequence there, but but
it's it's extra that there's a guy sitting

1468
01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:47.399
there. How'd you get? Yes, uncharted three. They're making another one

1469
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:55.119
of those, man, but also
dated eleven. So how many games are

1470
01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:58.680
we gonna get that are either eleven
eleven eleven or eleven one eleven? So

1471
01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:00.960
far we've got one of each,
but you know they'll bump anyway. Three

1472
01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:05.000
just sounds good. Ten eleven eleven
we got. Oh, you're asking how

1473
01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:09.239
many you're gonna go for each date
or how many? Like what's what's your

1474
01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:11.840
what's your you think that's gonna be? Those are gonna be the dates?

1475
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:17.600
Which one is a Tuesday? They're
both Tuesday. They really forget they can't

1476
01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:24.880
be. I think the eleventh shipping
off a Tuesday one way enough to not

1477
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:30.439
ship on a Tuesday, just to
make their eleven one eleven anyway. Batman

1478
01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:36.199
Arkham City, who show off some
some Hugo strange action there. I guess

1479
01:38:36.239 --> 01:38:43.359
he'll be the the main villains or
just a villain, because you know he'll

1480
01:38:43.359 --> 01:38:46.199
be working for the fucking Joker.
Have such a great menagerie of villains,

1481
01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:50.159
you'll like took them all down,
yeast. The last boss will be the

1482
01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:54.560
Joker, even if even if it's
like oh, Hugo Strains is running everything

1483
01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:57.479
you find out at the end.
No, I don't forget. The Joker

1484
01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:00.359
was in the teaser they put out
at the last time. It's going to

1485
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:03.119
be the joke on a giant walking
tank. You know, he'll be on

1486
01:39:03.199 --> 01:39:09.439
Crazy Space on prior. Last year, oh eight, last year they had

1487
01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:13.159
one. Arkham Asylum came out last
year. Really, it's only been a

1488
01:39:13.239 --> 01:39:18.720
year. Yeah, and of the
year. What's that it was uncharted in

1489
01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:24.279
Arkham first last year it was the
big fight. So next year three,

1490
01:39:24.520 --> 01:39:29.159
Yeah, that's right, hopefully hopefully
start passed out that the day. Do

1491
01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:31.119
you really go to the vj's last
year, No, we went. They

1492
01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:39.920
went the year before that where they
had Arkham Asylum trailers. They didn't third

1493
01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:51.479
year Batman trailers. Barnard Bernard.
Yeah, oh Dumbledore's team. I love

1494
01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:57.760
it. I'm confused. Whatever.
Yeah, Resistance three, which I didn't

1495
01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:00.840
watch that one. That one they
got Halo date September date. Yeah,

1496
01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:04.720
they're they're out early in the fourth
quarter. Well, I did watch that's

1497
01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:06.960
the live action one. A lot
of live action stuff at the start of

1498
01:40:06.960 --> 01:40:10.000
it, and then the dude pulls
out the gun, right, and then

1499
01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:12.239
it's all computer game. It's solved. There was a lot of stuff in

1500
01:40:12.279 --> 01:40:14.920
this that I thought was a live
action. There are parts of that Mass

1501
01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:16.560
Effects trailer that I looked at that
when I was looking at stills from it,

1502
01:40:16.600 --> 01:40:18.600
I was like, why is there
just a dude That screen grab you

1503
01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:23.960
hold when you post a trailer looks
like a fucking photograph. Guy, that's

1504
01:40:23.960 --> 01:40:28.560
amazing. I'm still there Day one. Mass Effect three. Uh. I'm

1505
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:31.319
a little surprised by the import being
given Earth in Mass Effect three because I

1506
01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:35.800
feel like, like, yes,
humanity is obviously a big target and it's

1507
01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:40.680
kind of been one of the big
focuses of this universe, is humanity's role

1508
01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:44.560
in the in the universe or whatever. I think they probably discovered that there's

1509
01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:46.720
a four Runner artifact on Earth and
then they have to go get it.

1510
01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:50.359
I have to go to some glass. That's yeah, they're gonna glass Earth.

1511
01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:55.840
And also it's super weird that,
like Big Band still exists in twenty

1512
01:40:55.880 --> 01:40:59.399
one eighty three. Why wouldn't it. There's a much of old crap that

1513
01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:01.239
exists now, it's not that far
away. It's been around for a while.

1514
01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:09.680
I bet the big ben will be
around fifty bucks, fifty space bucks.

1515
01:41:11.600 --> 01:41:15.079
Now I'm only gonna do it in
fifty China bucks. The ones that

1516
01:41:15.079 --> 01:41:16.600
are gonna be worth anything. I
think the bigger thing is like, would

1517
01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:20.319
you want to be in a giant
tower when giant space ships are knocking everything

1518
01:41:20.359 --> 01:41:26.760
over? Looks amazing When they up
and there's the huge force in their life,

1519
01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:29.720
fucking Shepherd doesn't come where boone,
I'm like, oh, that's awesome.

1520
01:41:29.800 --> 01:41:32.359
It did make me so happy that
that terminator thing never took off,

1521
01:41:32.479 --> 01:41:38.319
because if they were giant terminator robots
walking around one building, yeah, yeah,

1522
01:41:38.359 --> 01:41:41.239
it would be the worst game that
trailer will. Now, there's been

1523
01:41:41.239 --> 01:41:45.000
all the talk about Mass Effect multiplayer
game. Everyone thought that they were going

1524
01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:47.199
to announce some kind of weird offshoot
game for a little bit there. I

1525
01:41:47.319 --> 01:41:49.199
don't want them to do. Yeah, do you think this game has a

1526
01:41:49.239 --> 01:41:53.279
multiplayer in it? I hope not. I think there, I bet it

1527
01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:57.000
does. It should just be a
part in the single player where it turns

1528
01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:00.199
into multiplayer and that's it, and
you play that for a bit and you

1529
01:42:00.239 --> 01:42:02.760
could just go like break jazz.
Yeah, like you're you're playing single player,

1530
01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:04.920
and then suddenly it's like we got
a big ward fight, and like

1531
01:42:05.039 --> 01:42:09.479
you can continue fighting that war or
like move on with the story like later

1532
01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:13.159
on and like integrate it into a
narrative that plays, you know, exactly

1533
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:15.560
through that part. I just wish
they could just say this is a single

1534
01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:19.199
player series, and we don't need
this box, We don't need this bullet

1535
01:42:19.239 --> 01:42:21.600
point on the box, right,
you know, I have the feeling that

1536
01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:26.800
that BioWare could, but also feeling
that could. I also have the feeling

1537
01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:30.119
that BioWare if they said, yeah, we we want to give it,

1538
01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:33.239
we want to give them multiplayers shot, like that universe can support it.

1539
01:42:33.720 --> 01:42:38.560
I frankly am shocked that we haven't
seen more. Granted, like their their

1540
01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:42.279
four ways into this have not been
terribly successful, but I want to see

1541
01:42:42.319 --> 01:42:45.520
more like non Shepherd stories like give
me, give me some spinoff action.

1542
01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:50.720
This is a huge that's a huge, terrific universe for you to to delve

1543
01:42:50.760 --> 01:42:55.000
into, and I feel like they
have. They have spent just a huge

1544
01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:58.479
amount of time and money in the
first two games setting up their fiction and

1545
01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:02.720
setting up this world and making you
care like it's crazy, how involved,

1546
01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:08.079
like all of the interspecies fiction is. It's It's in one of the only

1547
01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:11.640
games I think I've ever played where
I've sat down and read every fricking like

1548
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:16.520
because it's so good. It's so
good. Yeah, just everyone hates everyone

1549
01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:19.840
else for some fucked up reason.
There's not really a good guy. Everyone's

1550
01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:23.520
kind of an asshole in one way
or another. It's terrific. I mean,

1551
01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:30.239
the spaces space dicks. That was
the original time. Well, so

1552
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:32.119
we had this other idea of mass
effects. You know, this phrase comes

1553
01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:46.319
up. These two guys doctors Canadians
since of humors warped. One guy's got

1554
01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:53.640
afore anything. But they said,
they said, they're making I have to

1555
01:43:53.880 --> 01:44:00.319
applaud their restraint for at no point
just saying for z A right, Yeah,

1556
01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:02.279
good, good on them, right, so raised the medic critic,

1557
01:44:02.479 --> 01:44:08.279
Yeah right, by four points.
I feel like all they needed to show

1558
01:44:08.359 --> 01:44:11.319
up for that trailer and they didn't
was just a car smashing against the wall

1559
01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:19.600
here just but but like but like
a Lamborghini RCI lago, like just something

1560
01:44:19.720 --> 01:44:26.560
crazy, super slow motion, just
crunching into a wall. The whole trailer

1561
01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:33.399
is a fixed angle on a wall
and hear the increasing second fall, cut

1562
01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:42.760
the logo, and then forty five
seconds of menus. Yeah right, Decal

1563
01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:45.279
editor. Yeah, Actually, I'm
kind of surprised that that's the one thing

1564
01:44:45.319 --> 01:44:47.920
I felt was missing from that trailers. That there was no like weird brand

1565
01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:55.239
hijacking on any of the cars.
There's no like pringles Can or Anime Girl

1566
01:44:55.359 --> 01:44:58.760
like all the stuff that all the
users have done with that. That decal

1567
01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:02.720
it over right that they did not
do any of that. So some of

1568
01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:05.479
that stuff looks straight out of that
to Connect demo that we saw, and

1569
01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:09.039
they have gone on to say that
that there will be Connect support in the

1570
01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:12.840
game for at least that car,
like walk around the car, open the

1571
01:45:12.880 --> 01:45:16.199
door, look at stuff view.
But I wouldn't be surprised if if some

1572
01:45:16.279 --> 01:45:20.000
of those mini games based on Connect
end up in that game too. I

1573
01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:24.199
don't think they're going to make a
separate forts a Connect game at this point.

1574
01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:31.199
That'd be they shouldn't do that.
Also, the Elder scrolls five sky

1575
01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:39.039
rim it's low orbit basketball, and
we'll see any rim job jokes that we

1576
01:45:39.039 --> 01:45:41.960
want to get out. I was
thinking of a couple as you were going

1577
01:45:42.039 --> 01:45:45.119
through and yeah, this is the
place. Really Now we're working on it

1578
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:46.760
later. Yeah, we've worked shopped
those we got we got a while,

1579
01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:51.239
We've got that comedy show coming up. We need to get our Skyrim material.

1580
01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:56.159
Kind a good eight minute chunk on
sky Rim. Don't feel pretty good

1581
01:45:56.159 --> 01:45:59.920
about. I mean, it's a
trailer that shows nothing other than to say

1582
01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:02.359
it's kind of cool. It's like
eight dragons. Yeah, wait, wait,

1583
01:46:02.399 --> 01:46:05.960
wait, dragons dragons, And I'm
like, fucking dude, yeah,

1584
01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:10.319
fucking dragons. You can't go the
Carpathians telling you about it? You're telling

1585
01:46:10.399 --> 01:46:15.479
me is the ah dragons? Basically, yeah, it's cool, like zero

1586
01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:23.119
gameplay, but cool looking trailer.
New engine, new Engines say. They

1587
01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:25.960
say it's a new engine. Todd
Howard said in an interview like three months

1588
01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:30.159
ago that they're building on the old
engine. So I'm sitting here like scrutinizing

1589
01:46:30.199 --> 01:46:31.920
their use of the phrase new engine, like that could be opened with a

1590
01:46:31.960 --> 01:46:38.319
lot of interpretation. It's like newer
version of game, new engine. We've

1591
01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:43.880
it's all JavaScript, we've just made
it documents. We're just using the latest

1592
01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:46.920
version that we used for Epic Mickey. So if they just find a sky

1593
01:46:47.039 --> 01:46:53.640
rim vill Facebook Facebook game. That's
that's the new engine. Just found a

1594
01:46:53.640 --> 01:46:56.720
way to make this new engine five
times is broken, I hope, like

1595
01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:02.119
just stuff like everyone's head is upside
down by the phone. We've made it

1596
01:47:02.199 --> 01:47:05.920
so every companion you can walk up
to does not respond to you the first

1597
01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:10.119
ten times. This is by design, right, I'm excited for this game.

1598
01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:14.439
Now you can through everything and just
everything great, You're a wizard.

1599
01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:18.760
I don't know. I also think
it's you know, for for us old

1600
01:47:18.840 --> 01:47:23.720
school people. I think it's just
like amazing how far Bethesda has come,

1601
01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:27.600
yea, because they're like rock stars
now in this industry. And the fact

1602
01:47:27.680 --> 01:47:30.079
that they got to make an announce
on this show. Everybody who's excited about

1603
01:47:30.119 --> 01:47:32.479
it. I mean, I don't
know how many you guys in the room

1604
01:47:32.479 --> 01:47:36.560
remember like Dagger, which, how
is this in the same company, Even

1605
01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:40.600
even if they're mora win. Those
games were nothing like mainstream. They were

1606
01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:44.119
the deepest of nerds, yes they
were. They were the hardest core of

1607
01:47:44.239 --> 01:47:46.159
PC nerds, and they never sold
out. I don't even know how it

1608
01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:49.279
happened. It's like the world came
around to them. Yeah, it was

1609
01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:51.479
oblivion. It was oblivion coming Out
at the right time. On the three

1610
01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:55.439
sixty, there were a lot of
people that were just hungry for any kind

1611
01:47:55.520 --> 01:47:58.119
of meaty game on that console.
They're like, oh, we'll play this.

1612
01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:01.319
Oh wait, this game is amazing, right, the world discovered the

1613
01:48:01.399 --> 01:48:04.399
Test and became a better place,
and then and then they followed up with

1614
01:48:04.479 --> 01:48:08.560
Fallout, which people were ready to
Okay, this has guns in it.

1615
01:48:08.640 --> 01:48:13.399
I'm in like that, but with
gun Okay, right, except for those

1616
01:48:14.119 --> 01:48:18.279
Fallout stalwarts that are somewhere still super
pissed. I'm sure there right now,

1617
01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:23.840
there's no upside down faces and Fallout
two because you said this right, yeah,

1618
01:48:24.840 --> 01:48:32.039
Jeff again. SSX Deadly Descents.
I don't believe it now. If

1619
01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:38.720
that was a descent game, I'd
be in mana Deadly Descent, Deadly Descents.

1620
01:48:39.720 --> 01:48:45.640
There are multiple descents. I'm sorry, e a sports SSX Deadly Descents.

1621
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:50.600
That's a bit of a mouthful.
Deadly Descents, tizing cream. I'm

1622
01:48:50.600 --> 01:49:00.199
just waiting for the whole trailer is
like, we gotta hear copters like drop

1623
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:03.800
off alicopter onto a very snowy mountain. So it's so they're playing up to

1624
01:49:03.840 --> 01:49:08.800
the whole try to kill yourself something
like that. It looks it looks like

1625
01:49:08.840 --> 01:49:13.239
they're playing up the We built this
on the Call of Duty engine angle because

1626
01:49:13.359 --> 01:49:18.479
there's a snowboard, there's there's like
a the look of that game looks like

1627
01:49:19.640 --> 01:49:23.760
it looks like a military game.
Until there's snowboarding in the trailer. You're

1628
01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:28.079
like, oh, they're they're in
these big like military helicopters, and they're

1629
01:49:28.279 --> 01:49:31.399
like the look of the game is
like that. There's no dj Atomica,

1630
01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:36.520
there's no crazily colored brightly colored to
anything. There's also no gameplay, so

1631
01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:40.000
I don't even don't even know what
what that game will look like. But

1632
01:49:40.439 --> 01:49:43.560
this was not the direction I would
I would expect them to or I would

1633
01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:45.359
have expected them to go if they
were going to bring it back as SSX,

1634
01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:50.159
And I don't know if we'll see
So somebody's told them to make black

1635
01:49:50.199 --> 01:49:54.720
ops, but then they had to
remind them it's actually a snowboarding franchise.

1636
01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:59.319
Tell me about the numbers on your
lift ticket, bro, tell me about

1637
01:49:59.359 --> 01:50:01.800
the numbers your lift tickets. Don't
have two stone to read the numbers on

1638
01:50:01.880 --> 01:50:05.479
my lips? Me the numbers on
your lift ticket. Let me tell you

1639
01:50:05.560 --> 01:50:17.920
about this. We went down.
We were snowboarding in Vietnam. Put fortunate

1640
01:50:18.039 --> 01:50:27.640
son on again. I can't not
it's stuck that way. Prototype two also

1641
01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:33.279
the biggest surprise anything crazy. I
don't think it's that biggest. Really,

1642
01:50:33.439 --> 01:50:39.279
there's an audible gas at the VTS
was there? Not really? Really?

1643
01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:45.000
It wasn't my living just a h
I just turned to my wife when time

1644
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:49.760
because I do that. Oh god, it's choking again, swallowing his own

1645
01:50:49.800 --> 01:50:54.399
tongue. Honey, we need to
get you better teeth. I uh,

1646
01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:58.039
yeah, I don't know. I
never thought they would follow up that game.

1647
01:50:58.239 --> 01:51:02.479
I thought Pepe they usually winning and
gutted radical Yet radicals developing this game?

1648
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:05.560
Yeah? Does it have a Is
there a you know? Subtitle after?

1649
01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:11.319
Nope? No, no, nothing
they have. They have a slogan

1650
01:51:11.399 --> 01:51:15.119
for it, but it's not.
What is it like Murder Your Maker?

1651
01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:17.840
I think it is. So you're
not playing as Alex Mercer. You're you're

1652
01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:25.880
a guy who, yes Colin in
twenty twelve. Right, You're you're you're

1653
01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:29.520
playing as a guy who's also been
infected with the same stuff, who is

1654
01:51:29.560 --> 01:51:33.640
now chasing Alex Mercer. Right,
I wish I remember your interests are the

1655
01:51:33.680 --> 01:51:38.079
same, and you're gonna see up
and then co op un locks. I

1656
01:51:38.119 --> 01:51:40.880
don't know. Do you remember how
that game what wrapped up At the end

1657
01:51:41.640 --> 01:51:45.479
you fought a giant monster on an
aircraft carrier, Yes, and then you

1658
01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:48.359
win. In this game, you
play as the aircraft carrier starts out the

1659
01:51:48.439 --> 01:51:55.520
araft carrier. He's just doing all
the video. Yeah, I can't remember

1660
01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:59.439
if they solved the problem of the
virus. Alex Mercer just kind of like

1661
01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:03.199
SLINKs off into the city with a
hoodie on. Really so he fails and

1662
01:52:03.399 --> 01:52:10.600
all the time he boss whatever that
was, and then so he sort of

1663
01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:13.960
got back at the military doing stuff
to him. He just made me realize

1664
01:52:13.960 --> 01:52:16.439
I want to make a game and
end it that way. You have to

1665
01:52:16.520 --> 01:52:20.640
like slink off and everyone's like booing
you, and then the credits roll.

1666
01:52:21.079 --> 01:52:26.520
Great thing to do to a gamer, not even off. That's what I

1667
01:52:26.640 --> 01:52:30.039
thought you were wrong the entire time. You're actually fighting the good guy.

1668
01:52:30.159 --> 01:52:33.520
That's how my pretty much how my
game of Fable three ended. So and

1669
01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:36.960
then it erases all the achievements.
You mad, you know, fuck you,

1670
01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:46.479
I'm going to propose you just you
reached the level ninety nine of the

1671
01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:50.039
Jeweled three and now it deletes itself. And then and then anytime you load

1672
01:52:50.119 --> 01:52:54.079
it up, all of the zombies
are just flipping you off. Thanks for

1673
01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:57.760
your money, asshole. They have
to buy the game again if you ever

1674
01:52:57.840 --> 01:53:00.479
want to play it. I was
just thinking your life, how like the

1675
01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:02.760
worst thing that could happen, And
like all those zombie games, what if

1676
01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:05.640
there's just a virus that made you
think everybody was a zombie, so you

1677
01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:10.159
think it's a zombie apocalypse. It
just starts shooting everybody. Yeah, and

1678
01:53:10.199 --> 01:53:12.279
then it turns out that you're just
the messed up one. And if you're

1679
01:53:12.359 --> 01:53:14.600
the messed up one, and these
guys are all just chasing after you to

1680
01:53:14.680 --> 01:53:16.119
stop you, and you're like,
keep coming, man. And then that

1681
01:53:16.399 --> 01:53:20.159
virus spreads so more and more people
think that the other people are zombies.

1682
01:53:20.600 --> 01:53:27.479
Whoa I mean the like the villain
who thinks she's the hero that was also

1683
01:53:27.560 --> 01:53:30.720
descent, however, and then you've
got a snowboard your way to Victoria.

1684
01:53:31.680 --> 01:53:35.039
The hero the thinks it's a villain
is you know, it's classic storytelling troupe

1685
01:53:35.039 --> 01:53:39.520
and especially for for sci fi and
fantasy, and it's kind of surprising that

1686
01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:44.239
it doesn't. You don't get more
of that twist in games because it's the

1687
01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:46.920
villain who thinks it's a hero.
Yeah, I'm sorry, Yes, that's

1688
01:53:47.680 --> 01:53:54.760
you being that villain, right Yeah
yeah yeah. Basically mean Prototype plays like

1689
01:53:54.840 --> 01:53:59.319
kind of flirts with that idea a
little bit for sure, But and I

1690
01:53:59.359 --> 01:54:02.399
don't know, I thought there was
some that is to me more than your

1691
01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:08.119
Infamous or your Uncharted, that that
is the game that needs a sequel,

1692
01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:13.520
because that is a game that can
materially be improved, uh like mechanically,

1693
01:54:13.560 --> 01:54:15.920
Like there's so many things about it, Like, man, there's great potential

1694
01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:17.399
here. There are things about this
that I really enjoyed. But you know,

1695
01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:20.079
this, this, this and this
all need to be better, and

1696
01:54:20.439 --> 01:54:24.439
this is the opportunity to do something
about that. I just trying to.

1697
01:54:24.520 --> 01:54:27.680
I mean, they at least made
its announcement splashy, so maybe they maybe

1698
01:54:27.680 --> 01:54:30.720
they care about it enough to actually
make it happen. I guess Activisions at

1699
01:54:30.720 --> 01:54:35.000
a point where they don't not care
about anything anything except for Cabella's and like

1700
01:54:35.279 --> 01:54:41.359
whatever they would have previously labeled his
activision value. Yeah, but one last

1701
01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:45.399
story here today before we move on
to new releases. Announcing some retailers specific

1702
01:54:46.119 --> 01:54:53.640
fatalities for Mortal Kombat. Now this
is not you know, this trend is

1703
01:54:53.720 --> 01:54:59.640
nothing the pre ordered bonus, the
retailers specific pre ordered bonus. I've seen

1704
01:54:59.680 --> 01:55:03.760
all that before. There's something about
this about fate, about fatality. So

1705
01:55:03.880 --> 01:55:08.560
what it is is they have three
different programs set up with three different retailers,

1706
01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:12.119
and each one's a different character skin
and a different fatality. So it's

1707
01:55:12.159 --> 01:55:15.199
it's it's the Ninjas. So it's
like Scorpion, Subzero, Reptile and you

1708
01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:20.000
get the kind of the classic look
and then their original fatality or one of

1709
01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:23.880
their original fatalities. For Subser and
Scorpion, those are easy. I don't

1710
01:55:23.920 --> 01:55:27.239
know what they would do for Reptile. Which one is the which which reptile

1711
01:55:27.279 --> 01:55:31.680
fatality is the iconic reptile one is
the tongue head Yeah? Probably Yeah,

1712
01:55:31.680 --> 01:55:41.319
I think it's that the acid spit
that looks No, it's probably the tongue

1713
01:55:42.760 --> 01:55:46.560
subser head rip and the scorpion fire. Can you fucking imagine a world where

1714
01:55:46.600 --> 01:55:49.560
you buy this game and you don't
get the head rip and the breathing fire.

1715
01:55:49.680 --> 01:55:54.039
Well, the only thing I mean, I actually think it's a good

1716
01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:56.680
thing that they're coming up with new
fatality is because every time they could they

1717
01:55:56.800 --> 01:55:59.840
switch to a new engine. The
first thing that the MK team does is

1718
01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:04.159
you'll see that skull breathe fire again. And so it's kind of nice that

1719
01:56:04.239 --> 01:56:08.840
this guarantees that there will be two
new fatalities for Scorpion in the game.

1720
01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:14.399
So basically you'll be you're beginning a
third for these characters. The problem is

1721
01:56:14.479 --> 01:56:16.600
that they're kind of building this game
as a pseudo reboot. You know,

1722
01:56:17.319 --> 01:56:21.319
the storyline will take place kind of
in the right place in the story,

1723
01:56:24.039 --> 01:56:28.000
but you know, they're using all
these old characters. They're trying to make

1724
01:56:28.039 --> 01:56:30.720
the game play more like the old
games. This is stuff that just should

1725
01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:34.359
just be in it because they're in
a position where they need to get those

1726
01:56:34.399 --> 01:56:41.880
old players back, and nickel and
diming them on this stuff and basically preventing

1727
01:56:41.920 --> 01:56:45.239
them from getting access to that stuff
is not the right way to go about

1728
01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:48.359
putting this game out there. They're
already kind of getting into weird territory by

1729
01:56:48.439 --> 01:56:53.840
putting Credos into the game as a
PS three exclusive character. I mean,

1730
01:56:53.880 --> 01:56:57.880
at least he fits into the into
the universe. Yeah, he's angry,

1731
01:56:57.920 --> 01:57:00.760
and he kills everything, and and
he has scored in spear basically right,

1732
01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:05.000
so you know, not since the
inclusion of quan Chi, haven't been so

1733
01:57:05.159 --> 01:57:10.319
disappointed in the new Mortal game.
So him. And then there's rumors that

1734
01:57:10.439 --> 01:57:13.640
quan Chi is also going to Yeah
a bunch of a bunch of files got

1735
01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:17.279
yanked off of their official website.
That hasn't been confirmed. But but yeah,

1736
01:57:18.399 --> 01:57:21.119
Quancy was done as DLC for the
last game and never released, so

1737
01:57:21.199 --> 01:57:24.800
you know, they got the models
done, so why not use it?

1738
01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:31.119
Make him the because then no one
will pre order? Can you only have

1739
01:57:31.319 --> 01:57:35.520
Quanchi fight creatos? Because they are
basically the same character. The more modern

1740
01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:40.279
looks of Quanci as they changed him, look less creatos like, okay,

1741
01:57:40.359 --> 01:57:44.880
but yes it should. Actually it's
actually just be FMV footage of Richard di

1742
01:57:44.960 --> 01:57:47.119
Visio, who played Kano and then
went on to play quan Chi and the

1743
01:57:47.199 --> 01:57:51.319
Mortal Kombat Mythologies, which you should
look up the FMV for MK Mythologies and

1744
01:57:51.399 --> 01:57:56.399
see him playing Quanchi if you want
to see. There's the only good Quanchy

1745
01:57:56.520 --> 01:58:00.640
stuff ever. Mythologies was the Subseri
again has that side scrolling subzero game,

1746
01:58:00.720 --> 01:58:03.680
and there was also Special Forces Forces, which under no circumstances or you to

1747
01:58:03.680 --> 01:58:08.319
play Special Forces. I remember watching
you play Special Forces. It was like

1748
01:58:08.760 --> 01:58:13.520
I was killing myself while playing a
video game. Make that the pre order.

1749
01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:16.359
It was pretty impressive. But you're
right, I don't think that.

1750
01:58:16.560 --> 01:58:19.520
I don't think you know, there's
a lot of excitement here for this new

1751
01:58:19.560 --> 01:58:25.079
Mortal Kombat, but they're kind of
coming off of a bad stretch for MK.

1752
01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:28.359
Well. Yeah, I mean,
I think the last game they did

1753
01:58:28.479 --> 01:58:31.600
was great, but they are not
as huge as they once were. Sales

1754
01:58:31.680 --> 01:58:35.319
definitely tapered off for that series as
they as they went on, and this

1755
01:58:35.479 --> 01:58:39.920
is the game that they're finally recapturing
a lot of those people, Like people

1756
01:58:39.960 --> 01:58:42.359
are coming back to it and looking
at this footage and looking at the game

1757
01:58:42.359 --> 01:58:45.479
and going like, oh man,
this this is the moral Kombat I remember.

1758
01:58:45.640 --> 01:58:48.920
And they're starting to get those people
excited again. They shouldn't do things

1759
01:58:49.079 --> 01:58:54.720
that they're acting against that they're acting
like they've already had the success. This

1760
01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:58.359
is you save this for Mortal Kombat
ten. This is yeah, this is

1761
01:58:58.399 --> 01:59:00.680
the game after once you're you've got
everyone back on the hook and you're in

1762
01:59:01.359 --> 01:59:05.680
you know, the grander game playing
publics. Yeah, kind of start playing

1763
01:59:05.680 --> 01:59:09.560
around with that stuff. But this, you know, it's it's a bit

1764
01:59:09.640 --> 01:59:14.560
much. They're also doing two separate
collectors editions. That's gonna come with you

1765
01:59:14.600 --> 01:59:19.239
know, Avatar stuff and I loves
well, So there's two versions. They're

1766
01:59:19.279 --> 01:59:23.439
spelling Collectors with a K. So
there is that, Okay, is there

1767
01:59:23.439 --> 01:59:30.039
a Game of the Year edition yet
not? Yeah? Yeah, Tournament edition

1768
01:59:30.079 --> 01:59:33.279
will come with what they're terming a
portable fight stick, which I can't even

1769
01:59:33.359 --> 01:59:38.000
fathom what that means, because last
time I checked, every fight stick I've

1770
01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:41.800
ever bought for a console can be
brought some place. You know, those

1771
01:59:41.840 --> 01:59:44.760
little that to me says it's too
small and jankie. You know, I

1772
01:59:44.800 --> 01:59:47.079
don't know what are those those TV
games that have like all of the NAMA

1773
01:59:48.119 --> 01:59:51.039
with MK one built into it,
that'd be all right portable. It's a

1774
01:59:51.119 --> 01:59:54.279
portable arcade joystick, that'd be all
right. Well, it's you know,

1775
01:59:54.359 --> 02:00:00.840
it's a portable arcade Comma joystick,
got it, yep, spelling Collectors with

1776
02:00:00.880 --> 02:00:03.520
a K. I'm gonna say it. It goes a long way. That's

1777
02:00:03.760 --> 02:00:10.680
that will at least justify it.
So we got the the Tron Evolution Collector's

1778
02:00:10.840 --> 02:00:15.720
Edition Limited Edition for one thing,
like, Okay, Trun's kind of a

1779
02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:16.520
big deal, and they're making a
go at it, and they want this

1780
02:00:16.600 --> 02:00:19.760
to be a big thing. So
at a certain point I get it.

1781
02:00:20.039 --> 02:00:23.720
You know, you want to make
your your big, fancy collector's edition.

1782
02:00:23.760 --> 02:00:32.239
But this thing's one hundred and thirty
dollars. It's Halo helmet price, and

1783
02:00:32.399 --> 02:00:38.880
what you get for that is a
copy of the game, which yea in

1784
02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:41.399
the middle of the road with the
game like, it's not horrible, it's

1785
02:00:41.399 --> 02:00:44.159
not the worst license game, but
it's not, you know, it's the

1786
02:00:44.399 --> 02:00:46.239
story is the best part about it. I think I have having seen the

1787
02:00:46.279 --> 02:00:48.880
Brad and I went and saw the
movie, Yes you did, and uh,

1788
02:00:49.479 --> 02:00:53.359
I think the story in the game
is probably if they had taken the

1789
02:00:53.399 --> 02:00:58.880
story from the game and told it
as as as a flashy of a way

1790
02:00:58.960 --> 02:01:02.000
as they you know, as the
movie is, I think the game story

1791
02:01:02.079 --> 02:01:05.920
would be better. As Jeff Bridge
is in the game, his likeness is

1792
02:01:05.960 --> 02:01:10.079
in the game, his voice is
not. They gotta it seems like they

1793
02:01:10.119 --> 02:01:15.880
got a decent sound yeah exactly for
him, none for him. But but

1794
02:01:15.079 --> 02:01:20.840
either way, like not necessarily a
game that that you would feel really warrants

1795
02:01:21.800 --> 02:01:27.119
that one hundred and thirty dollars package, and for that you're getting the game

1796
02:01:28.039 --> 02:01:31.239
a light cycle replica, which it's
kind of all one piece. It looks

1797
02:01:31.279 --> 02:01:33.600
you know, when you leave it
in its plastic display case, you look

1798
02:01:33.640 --> 02:01:35.800
at it and you go like yeah, but if you get too close to

1799
02:01:35.920 --> 02:01:40.479
it, you're like, this is
It's like it's like a melted shoe or

1800
02:01:40.560 --> 02:01:46.479
something like like re shaped into a
light cycle and maybe it's that. And

1801
02:01:46.560 --> 02:01:51.640
then a a ten dollars gift certificate
kit to go see the movie, which

1802
02:01:51.760 --> 02:01:56.560
as a three D movie, you
will not be all see that. Yeah,

1803
02:01:57.039 --> 02:01:59.960
unless you go, like if you're
like under sixteen and go see a

1804
02:02:00.039 --> 02:02:02.680
matinee, you might know to squeeze
in. They were banking on some kind

1805
02:02:02.720 --> 02:02:05.680
of like tron mania here for this
thing. I guess. So there's so

1806
02:02:05.800 --> 02:02:10.880
much merchandise out there, like Adidas
did a bunch of clothing, Oakley did

1807
02:02:11.000 --> 02:02:15.159
sunglasses, it was snowboarding stuff.
Zero last week, Oh shit? Really?

1808
02:02:15.319 --> 02:02:18.279
Yeah? Does it? Does it
taste like you were inside a computer?

1809
02:02:18.439 --> 02:02:21.640
It tasted like tron tastes like tastes
like bits, taste like blue.

1810
02:02:24.119 --> 02:02:30.199
It was evil drinking evil tide coke. Zero dud did that movie. It

1811
02:02:30.399 --> 02:02:31.960
is it. It's pretty good.
It's it's pretty good. It's pretty good.

1812
02:02:32.079 --> 02:02:38.000
Yeah. Yeah, well I think
you know, I went in expecting

1813
02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:41.560
all the acting to be horrible and
the three D but to be a nightmare,

1814
02:02:41.720 --> 02:02:45.720
And I thought the acting was fine
and the three D was pretty understated,

1815
02:02:45.800 --> 02:02:48.319
like relatively subtle all told, and
the story is good enough to keep

1816
02:02:48.359 --> 02:02:55.039
you interested throughout a Bee action.
Yeah yeah, the action, Yes,

1817
02:02:55.119 --> 02:03:00.720
there's a lot of really cool actions. Sequences amazing, yeah, nothing commercial

1818
02:03:00.840 --> 02:03:04.439
visual, Yeah, yeah, it's
it looks really great. It's always been

1819
02:03:04.479 --> 02:03:08.920
Tron's biggest strength is, yeah,
this looks and it doesn't It does not

1820
02:03:09.079 --> 02:03:13.159
plod. The pace is much faster
than the original movie, right, so

1821
02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:16.600
it doesn't have that problem almost to
a fault, where there's some stuff that

1822
02:03:17.159 --> 02:03:21.800
feels really glossed over and and something. Well, but they actually so they

1823
02:03:21.800 --> 02:03:26.000
actually do a nice job. You
know, for all the talk about all

1824
02:03:26.039 --> 02:03:29.720
the linking games to movies now horrible
that usually goes I feel like they actually

1825
02:03:29.720 --> 02:03:32.359
did a pretty good job here,
Like the stuff that ties back to the

1826
02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:35.199
game, the stuff that they allude
to in the movie that you can look

1827
02:03:35.239 --> 02:03:38.920
at and go like, oh,
they're referencing things that happened in the game.

1828
02:03:39.760 --> 02:03:42.359
Not super key, you're not missing
out if you didn't play the game

1829
02:03:42.520 --> 02:03:45.000
too much. But having played the
game, I was like, oh man,

1830
02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:46.800
wow, that's okay cool, that's
that's pretty neat. That's for you.

1831
02:03:47.119 --> 02:03:49.960
Yeah, yeah, and and vice
versa. You know, there's there's

1832
02:03:50.119 --> 02:03:54.239
scenes in the movie that take place. There's a scene in the movie that

1833
02:03:54.279 --> 02:03:58.239
actually is also in the game,
kind of scene from a slightly different perspective

1834
02:03:58.239 --> 02:04:02.439
that I thought was was cool.
So I guess good on them for putting

1835
02:04:02.439 --> 02:04:05.800
all that stuff together in an interesting
way. That's that's probably the hardest part

1836
02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:10.279
of all that. So cool.
All right, let's move on to some

1837
02:04:10.359 --> 02:04:14.920
new releases. Guys. Yes,
how do you feel about that all these

1838
02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:17.439
great new releases coming out this week? Surprise, there are no new releases.

1839
02:04:19.640 --> 02:04:26.479
Double surprise, there are new releases
coming out for Xbox Live Arcade this

1840
02:04:26.600 --> 02:04:30.079
week? Right, Okay, I
should? I should? I should preface

1841
02:04:30.159 --> 02:04:34.520
this by saying that there are no
new like physical boxed new releases this week.

1842
02:04:34.600 --> 02:04:39.600
However, digital releases abound. This
is a kubon for frozen peas you

1843
02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:42.560
have over here. Yeah it is. You don't want to actually know what

1844
02:04:42.640 --> 02:04:45.640
I use as bag for. Oh, it's actually a bag of frozen peas.

1845
02:04:46.319 --> 02:04:49.800
Jeff, what do you use the
frozen P bag for? Say it's

1846
02:04:49.920 --> 02:04:58.279
for frozen peas. Also, don't
say it's for frozen p We're now all

1847
02:04:58.359 --> 02:05:04.199
right, let's just move on.
What the fuck do you want to now?

1848
02:05:04.920 --> 02:05:08.880
Have to know? It's not pleasant. It doesn't involve me though,

1849
02:05:08.920 --> 02:05:11.640
as long as some like old man
Clost, as long as you're okay,

1850
02:05:11.720 --> 02:05:13.760
as long as you're okay talking about
it on the air, I don't want

1851
02:05:13.760 --> 02:05:15.640
to make you comfortable. I was
going to take my dog on a walk

1852
02:05:15.760 --> 02:05:19.720
before I came out over here.
This was gonna bend. This was the

1853
02:05:19.800 --> 02:05:24.079
bag for my dogs. Shit.
But now this podcast is going on so

1854
02:05:24.159 --> 02:05:26.359
long that you're just going to shit
into it. Yeah, that's why I

1855
02:05:26.439 --> 02:05:28.720
took the bag out of my pocket. No, I was wondering why my

1856
02:05:28.960 --> 02:05:31.520
like pocket was bulging and you know, and then I remembered, Oh,

1857
02:05:31.560 --> 02:05:38.119
it's the empty bag of peas in
my At least it hasn't been used,

1858
02:05:38.159 --> 02:05:41.279
Are you sorry? Asked now?
Guys, No, I'm happy to know,

1859
02:05:41.520 --> 02:05:44.920
totally totally happy. So this is
this is the dog shit bag I've

1860
02:05:45.000 --> 02:05:48.560
here mystery you want to ziplock also
to double up. I don't know where

1861
02:05:48.560 --> 02:05:50.880
it came from. It's been it
was. It was sitting on that chair

1862
02:05:50.960 --> 02:05:56.520
when I came in, think about
it. Xbox Libricide's releases this week include

1863
02:05:56.920 --> 02:06:05.960
X Men Arcade Really yeah yeah,
yeah that arcade game. Somebody. It's

1864
02:06:05.960 --> 02:06:10.000
hotly anticipated, Like, there are
a lot of people that view this game

1865
02:06:10.039 --> 02:06:13.680
as an extremes as a very big
classic in the in the brawler genre.

1866
02:06:14.479 --> 02:06:16.279
I loved it. I sunk many
a quarter into it when I was younger.

1867
02:06:16.359 --> 02:06:18.960
I just don't know if it if
it holds up? Is it it

1868
02:06:19.079 --> 02:06:21.439
is the six player version right,
because there were two cabinets, there was

1869
02:06:21.439 --> 02:06:27.039
a four player, and then between
the six and the four, which I

1870
02:06:27.039 --> 02:06:31.439
imagine will then affect like aspect ratio
and screen. Yes, one was one

1871
02:06:31.479 --> 02:06:35.560
win. One was Stretchy. That's
also gonna be up for PlayStation Network Day

1872
02:06:35.600 --> 02:06:44.319
earlier, Quake Arena Arcade. Oh
finally interesting and play Quake Live, but

1873
02:06:44.479 --> 02:06:50.199
pay for it and play it with
an Xbox controller. Thanks, Yeah,

1874
02:06:50.239 --> 02:06:59.720
pretty much, that's pretty much it. Oh you know, I'm sure it'll

1875
02:06:59.720 --> 02:07:04.560
be ok if you've never played Quick
three before in any other form uh so

1876
02:07:04.840 --> 02:07:12.000
fourth week in uh in Game Room
Pack twelve. Yeah, we still have

1877
02:07:12.159 --> 02:07:15.680
five games left in that pack.
Okay, Oh man, Really, I

1878
02:07:15.720 --> 02:07:16.840
don't know what's gonna I'm just saying
these things. I don't know what's gonna

1879
02:07:16.840 --> 02:07:21.880
happen. Hopefully this will be the
week for food Fight. We've got We've

1880
02:07:21.880 --> 02:07:27.439
got food Fight, We've got m
I A, We've got sunsets, volleyball,

1881
02:07:27.520 --> 02:07:33.239
and war Lords. That's the four
lords. War Lords. We'll see

1882
02:07:33.399 --> 02:07:36.640
what they do. I bet they'll
split it up. I bet you're right.

1883
02:07:36.760 --> 02:07:42.319
I bet we'll get three games this
week and two next, not that

1884
02:07:42.399 --> 02:07:46.159
anyone cares. I care. I
care, not that anyone that matters cares,

1885
02:07:46.439 --> 02:07:50.560
Kevin, and then I'll probably the
last five of Game Room. You

1886
02:07:50.600 --> 02:07:54.479
think I wouldn't be surprised they finish
out the year. And so you think

1887
02:07:54.520 --> 02:07:58.199
that phantom Pack thirteen thing is just
a fluke. I don't know. It

1888
02:07:58.319 --> 02:08:01.800
came up. It showed up as
a thing I could download, but do

1889
02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:05.199
they actually download it? So you
know it's it's It's too bad because I

1890
02:08:05.319 --> 02:08:09.560
feel like it's been a long time
coming, like someone needed to come along

1891
02:08:09.640 --> 02:08:15.079
and like make legalized emulation and and
micro chance and make the stuff work and

1892
02:08:15.199 --> 02:08:18.319
compete with maime in a legal,
feel good kind of way. They didn't

1893
02:08:18.319 --> 02:08:22.319
do it. They just never got
the games. They never will get the

1894
02:08:22.359 --> 02:08:26.119
games. They never got the games
that and even like with that specific and

1895
02:08:26.279 --> 02:08:33.399
focused a a job like the emulation
was fucked up, not often, not

1896
02:08:33.520 --> 02:08:35.560
often often enough where it's like,
come on, why is there new music

1897
02:08:35.640 --> 02:08:39.640
in poo Yan? This is this
is this thing. Why is there no

1898
02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:43.119
music in poo Yam? This is
this thing's entire job and it can't do

1899
02:08:43.279 --> 02:08:46.239
that well. Plus, there's no
music and po Yan. There is music

1900
02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:50.279
in poo Yan. There's never been
music and poo Yan. There's always been

1901
02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:58.239
music and poo Yan until now.
Thanks Game Room, this is poo Yan

1902
02:08:58.319 --> 02:09:01.319
de luxe. We were moved to
the music. It's way better this way

1903
02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:07.960
experience. It's all the new releases
I've got, dude, guys, games

1904
02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:11.439
are done coming out for twenty ten. Yeah, enjoy it. We made

1905
02:09:11.479 --> 02:09:15.880
it, basking it. There's gonna
be some more weirdo digital releases, but

1906
02:09:16.560 --> 02:09:20.159
I don't have to go to the
case. West is out the twenty seventh.

1907
02:09:20.520 --> 02:09:22.760
Yes, that'll kind of be the
probably the last thing of the year

1908
02:09:22.880 --> 02:09:26.039
confirmed to be a standalone XBLA game. Yes, you don't have to own

1909
02:09:26.119 --> 02:09:28.600
that Rising two three sixty to buy
that game. No, but it will

1910
02:09:28.600 --> 02:09:31.439
be eight hundred points, so it'll
be it'll be the ten dollars as opposed

1911
02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:35.800
to be five dollar that Frank West
deserves five dollars of his own. He

1912
02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:39.640
takes that money and spends it on
films. It's co op, hey,

1913
02:09:39.720 --> 02:09:43.279
like Dead Rising two, but like
real co op with two different characters,

1914
02:09:43.359 --> 02:09:48.199
not just two. Chuck Green's weird, who could have thought? All right?

1915
02:09:48.399 --> 02:09:52.520
Whatever, I'm more excited, Like
I played like two hours of Dead

1916
02:09:52.600 --> 02:09:58.560
Rising two. I'm stoked, but
I sh ranked case zero and I'm totally

1917
02:09:58.600 --> 02:10:03.000
excited four and looking forward to play
like that's as much Dead Rising as I

1918
02:10:03.079 --> 02:10:07.039
want. It turns out there's a
couple of hours in a small area,

1919
02:10:07.479 --> 02:10:11.119
like the expansive world and the Giant, like all the other things that they

1920
02:10:11.399 --> 02:10:13.479
bring into Dead Rising. I don't
want to do that. Absolutely overrated in

1921
02:10:13.560 --> 02:10:18.920
gaming, the whole giant open world
totally, I'm not kidding. Will give

1922
02:10:18.920 --> 02:10:22.760
me a nice five hour experience at
a decent price point, and I'll be

1923
02:10:22.840 --> 02:10:26.439
on my way. There's something to
be said for some self restraint in your

1924
02:10:26.479 --> 02:10:31.880
game design, right, exactly like
guns, Give me three and we're good

1925
02:10:33.479 --> 02:10:43.199
match. It's matched. Three's three
to five four three pistols they gave me

1926
02:10:43.279 --> 02:10:50.880
when I every time you can't get
back. If one of you guys could

1927
02:10:50.960 --> 02:10:54.319
leave, then there'd be three giant
bump I can match you. Or if

1928
02:10:54.319 --> 02:10:58.079
we could find a third person named
Jeff. No, but yeah, but

1929
02:10:58.159 --> 02:11:01.760
then won't you guys disappear? Shit, Maybe that's no good. That's right.

1930
02:11:01.840 --> 02:11:05.319
We had we had three mats at
one point we could yeah, two

1931
02:11:05.319 --> 02:11:09.560
and a half. We murdered them
a good point. Now they're all gone.

1932
02:11:09.439 --> 02:11:13.000
Jeff Gerstman with the Nintendo download and
this list is like as long as

1933
02:11:13.039 --> 02:11:18.039
the whole list you just read,
Nintendo is not messing around. We need

1934
02:11:18.199 --> 02:11:22.920
we need to twenty eleven. We
are running eleven. We are we're doing

1935
02:11:22.960 --> 02:11:26.840
something about this part of the show. Why don't you just start running it

1936
02:11:26.840 --> 02:11:31.840
at double speed and I'll talk extra
low. All right, I'll run a

1937
02:11:31.920 --> 02:11:35.359
double speed. I'll start this week. I'll run a double double speed.

1938
02:11:35.439 --> 02:11:37.840
If you talk like that in here
the entire time, that's just gonna make

1939
02:11:37.880 --> 02:11:43.439
it take twice. As this doesn't
help anyone except for the listener. That's

1940
02:11:43.479 --> 02:11:46.760
all I care about are the thousands
of people listening. I don't care.

1941
02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:52.479
I'm a ton of of your time. I waste line guy. Jan Games

1942
02:11:52.920 --> 02:11:58.880
one player, five hundred points.
Demo version available for zero. We Pour

1943
02:12:03.600 --> 02:12:11.239
is an award winning rhythm racing game
with a dub steps soundtrack and a visual

1944
02:12:11.399 --> 02:12:18.840
aesthetic that will confound your senses and
rock your soul. I'm not even going

1945
02:12:18.880 --> 02:12:26.079
to speed it up now. I've
decided. Rhythm line and do your best

1946
02:12:26.199 --> 02:12:31.560
to stay on the track as you
race to the finish, tapping the button

1947
02:12:31.760 --> 02:12:43.119
to the beat of the catchy soundtrack
by Genre Superstars sixteen bit with fifteen levels

1948
02:12:43.359 --> 02:12:50.199
of intense musical racing. It's a
game that has to be experienced to be

1949
02:12:50.520 --> 02:12:58.119
believed, and much more that was
we Wear. Also on we Wear Family

1950
02:12:58.439 --> 02:13:07.319
Game from Icon Games Entertainment. One
to four players, rated E for every

1951
02:13:07.439 --> 02:13:13.399
one five hundred WEE points. Description. Colon Family Games is a collection of

1952
02:13:15.199 --> 02:13:30.560
timeless pen and paper games for the
whole family. Games include Squares Dots nine,

1953
02:13:30.880 --> 02:13:41.920
Men's Morris Mill, Safe Cracker,
match Sticks, Knots and Crosses,

1954
02:13:43.000 --> 02:13:52.319
Tic Tac Toe four in a Row, Take That, Mister Match three,

1955
02:13:54.079 --> 02:14:05.119
Battle Fleet, Does It, Save
It? And Hangman. Numerous rule sets

1956
02:14:05.720 --> 02:14:13.800
at gay variations offer many ways to
play. Up to four players can compete

1957
02:14:13.880 --> 02:14:35.159
in tournament mode. There are also
twenty special achievements to unlock Violin Paradise from

1958
02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:45.039
key Stone Game Studio in all capital
letters one to four players seven hundred week

1959
02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:56.560
points. Violin Paradise is designed for
up to four people to enjoy additional controllers

1960
02:14:56.760 --> 02:15:05.720
sold separately. Players can choose to
be a conductor, violinist, violist,

1961
02:15:07.279 --> 02:15:16.319
or cellist as they perform some of
the most beautiful classical pieces in history.

1962
02:15:16.960 --> 02:15:22.439
The game includes a micro orchestra,
which helps players feel the enjoyment of a

1963
02:15:22.600 --> 02:15:31.279
group performance. The game environment changes
dynamically and can be enriched with more objects

1964
02:15:31.399 --> 02:15:37.880
if you play successfully. All right, guys, are you ready for virtual

1965
02:15:37.079 --> 02:15:48.680
console now? No Darius Twin for
the Super Nintendo from Tito eight hundred we

1966
02:15:50.039 --> 02:15:58.920
points for countless millennia. The space
tyrant Belzer and his cosmic marauders have terrorized

1967
02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:09.359
as this wants peaceful galaxy, Sorry, Richard Belzer stars and Darius Twin Radity

1968
02:16:09.680 --> 02:16:18.760
for everyone mild fantasy violence. No
sector remains safe from these stellar mercenaries and

1969
02:16:18.920 --> 02:16:26.439
their evil Empire. The Galactic Federation
has finally called on two of its Ace

1970
02:16:26.720 --> 02:16:35.520
pilots and their sleek silver Hawk warships
to do battle with Belzer's malicious Metal menaces

1971
02:16:35.360 --> 02:16:45.360
and reclaimed their beloved planet Darreus.
Climb into the pilot's seat for a solo

1972
02:16:45.479 --> 02:16:50.959
mission against Belzer's forces, or engage
the enemy with a fellow Federation pilot in

1973
02:16:52.040 --> 02:16:58.040
a simultaneous two player team attack.
The future of the galaxy depends on the

1974
02:16:58.120 --> 02:17:20.879
success of this perilous west. Nintendo
dsiwear Little Red Riding Hoods Zombie Barbecue with

1975
02:17:20.239 --> 02:17:31.719
cream flowing on waterfalls from Gammick Entertainment, Rated tea for blood and gore,

1976
02:17:31.040 --> 02:17:37.399
crude humor, fantasy violence, mild
suggestive themes, and mild language. Eight

1977
02:17:37.559 --> 02:17:43.559
hundred Nintendo DSi points TM. They
don't normally trademark the points, but for

1978
02:17:43.680 --> 02:17:50.600
that one they did. Can you
say Fairytale Land or will you let its

1979
02:17:50.680 --> 02:17:58.520
creatures live unhappily ever after? Little
Red Riding Hoods Zombie Barbecue is a fun

1980
02:17:58.680 --> 02:18:07.200
shooter in which you must advance by
shooting down every living or dying creature in

1981
02:18:07.319 --> 02:18:11.920
your path. Use the Great Arsenal
of weapons at your disposal, to destroy

1982
02:18:13.079 --> 02:18:26.079
hordes of savage zombies. Jam Space
Pocket Studio. Now it says jam space

1983
02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:31.840
here on the paper, you realize
you're just reading it in like a monotone.

1984
02:18:31.239 --> 02:18:37.079
Put it on the pizza. More
than particularly like lower than anything.

1985
02:18:37.319 --> 02:18:46.440
It's a little bit lower. You're
right that Please continue Jam Jam Space Pocket

1986
02:18:46.639 --> 02:18:52.239
Studio. There's a space between jam
and space, but not between pocket and

1987
02:18:52.440 --> 02:19:00.200
studio. This is another banger from
HB Studios. It is rated E for

1988
02:19:00.360 --> 02:19:13.040
everyone five hundred ds I points.
Jam Space Pocket Studio for the Nintendo DSi

1989
02:19:13.280 --> 02:19:18.399
system puts the power of a recording
studio in your pocket. You can gun

1990
02:19:18.479 --> 02:19:22.120
pose tracks, jot down ideas,
and be musical no matter where you are.

1991
02:19:24.000 --> 02:19:26.719
Choose from two modes. Quick Jam
mode allows you to lay down tracks

1992
02:19:26.799 --> 02:19:31.920
quickly and easily use natural instrument interfaces. This is a great mode if you've

1993
02:19:31.920 --> 02:19:35.760
got a little melody and want to
record and want to get it down quickly.

1994
02:19:37.719 --> 02:19:41.799
Studio Mode gives you access to a
full featured MIDI editor that lets you

1995
02:19:41.840 --> 02:19:46.000
tweak and hold your compositions to a
professional level. If you want to dig

1996
02:19:46.159 --> 02:19:52.360
deep and really work on that masterpiece, this is the mode for you.

1997
02:19:54.280 --> 02:20:05.719
One more guys, I'm basking in
it. These guys taking their phones Christmas

1998
02:20:05.000 --> 02:20:13.840
songs. Yeah, engine software two
hundred Nintendo DSi points. Do you want

1999
02:20:13.879 --> 02:20:20.040
me to try this one way?
Lower? Always get ready for a Christmas

2000
02:20:20.239 --> 02:20:28.120
karaoke party where you are the star. Famous holiday tunes including Jingle Bells and

2001
02:20:28.559 --> 02:20:37.840
Silent Night are waiting for you.
Dressed up as Jolly Santa Claus, you

2002
02:20:37.159 --> 02:20:43.440
enter a stage covered in snow and
sing into the built in microphone on your

2003
02:20:43.559 --> 02:20:54.440
Nintendo DSi to create a magical Christmas
mood. While singing, you'll receive feedback

2004
02:20:54.719 --> 02:21:01.600
did you hit all the right notes
and sing in time? Compare your high

2005
02:21:01.719 --> 02:21:09.319
score with previous singers, or just
sing to your holiday heart's content. That

2006
02:21:09.639 --> 02:21:15.440
is all of the releases that Nintendo
has released for this week. Guys,

2007
02:21:16.600 --> 02:21:20.159
All right, thank you, Jeff. We're bringing back up to normal speeds,

2008
02:21:20.200 --> 02:21:24.360
so okay, we should always do
it any double time. Actually that

2009
02:21:24.479 --> 02:21:28.959
was like that was like yeah,
that was that was super duper fast,

2010
02:21:30.440 --> 02:21:33.879
so that we would have time for
some emails. I'm dizzy after doing that.

2011
02:21:35.639 --> 02:21:41.239
After doing that, the final Nintendo
Downloads screed that we will ever do

2012
02:21:41.600 --> 02:21:43.840
in this current format. What are
you talking about, dude, last week,

2013
02:21:43.920 --> 02:21:48.079
we spent like twenty minutes on that
segment. That's insane. We can't

2014
02:21:48.120 --> 02:21:52.799
spend twenty minutes a week talking about
fucking Nintendo downloads that we never play.

2015
02:21:52.920 --> 02:21:56.120
Look, I don't know if you
know this, but the Wei is still

2016
02:21:56.319 --> 02:22:00.840
the worldwide has the largest installed base
of any console. Bobcat at Janet bomb

2017
02:22:00.920 --> 02:22:07.520
dot com the email address you send
emails into for us to read emails on

2018
02:22:07.639 --> 02:22:11.159
the air. Are you saying we
need to start a separate podcast where we

2019
02:22:11.200 --> 02:22:16.040
talk about the Nintendo releases for a
full hour. If you want to spearhead

2020
02:22:16.120 --> 02:22:22.000
that for our twenty eleven projects,
I'll put it on the taskboard. You

2021
02:22:22.079 --> 02:22:26.639
know. I'll fight for you on
it for sure. Just to get it

2022
02:22:26.719 --> 02:22:35.280
out of here. Oh I lost
I lost my things. I had everything

2023
02:22:35.399 --> 02:22:39.319
here. First email comes in from
Kevin and Wisconsin bomb Cast. Why does

2024
02:22:39.360 --> 02:22:43.200
game Inform we get all the exclusive
covers and stories about big games? Is

2025
02:22:43.239 --> 02:22:46.639
game stop making some sweet retail deals
in order to get game Form with the

2026
02:22:46.680 --> 02:22:52.719
exclusive rights to this stuff? You
know, I don't know the machinations of

2027
02:22:52.799 --> 02:22:58.840
it, but I think it has
more. It's it's more about Game four

2028
02:22:58.040 --> 02:23:03.239
is in all those game the numbers
publishers in pursuit of the mythical reach.

2029
02:23:03.719 --> 02:23:09.120
If they're the number seven magazine of
any magazine, yeah, exactly where are

2030
02:23:09.159 --> 02:23:13.440
you? You give it to the
people with the most. It's the ones

2031
02:23:13.479 --> 02:23:16.559
that are going to reach the most
people that might not follow this on a

2032
02:23:16.639 --> 02:23:20.120
daily basis. So giving it to
a website, even the biggest websites is

2033
02:23:20.120 --> 02:23:24.319
still kind of a preaching to the
choir, sort of move right game of

2034
02:23:24.360 --> 02:23:28.399
former talenty here. You know,
I asked Andy mcmair a point blank,

2035
02:23:28.639 --> 02:23:30.479
because you know, it's like it's
something we get asked a lot, like

2036
02:23:30.840 --> 02:23:31.559
how does that stuff work? And
he said, no, dude, it's

2037
02:23:31.680 --> 02:23:35.879
it's us. We the whole magazine
is us. And uh. And you

2038
02:23:35.959 --> 02:23:39.159
know I started getting it just like
we all do. For whatever fucking reason,

2039
02:23:39.239 --> 02:23:43.399
I didn't ask for it. And
I've been reading the last few issues

2040
02:23:43.440 --> 02:23:46.399
in you know, it's all right. It's not that they have a good

2041
02:23:46.440 --> 02:23:52.079
stuff. You know, their covers
have been awesome, Blaney, the whoever's

2042
02:23:52.079 --> 02:23:54.879
doing their art and whoever's like directing
that stuff. These Byshock Infinite covers are

2043
02:23:56.200 --> 02:24:00.600
fucking amazing, right. I find
the reviews to be pretty right on score

2044
02:24:00.680 --> 02:24:05.000
wise, and riding wise. I
mean, you know, in my magazine

2045
02:24:05.040 --> 02:24:09.680
days, they were easily the magazine
to hate because they were sort of like

2046
02:24:09.760 --> 02:24:11.879
the big bad guy. You know, they were owned by best Buy and

2047
02:24:13.399 --> 02:24:18.479
I'm sorry games best Buy, right, that's the other guys, right,

2048
02:24:18.719 --> 02:24:24.120
game Stop, And it just seemed
unfair, you know, like like we

2049
02:24:24.280 --> 02:24:26.959
had to fight for the readers and
they're just giving them away to everybody,

2050
02:24:26.040 --> 02:24:30.520
and those numbers counted in their cirque. So it's sort of easy to hate

2051
02:24:30.559 --> 02:24:33.120
on Game of Former. But now
that I'm away from the magazine business and

2052
02:24:33.159 --> 02:24:37.760
I'm just reading it as a as
a gamer trying to get those covers.

2053
02:24:37.079 --> 02:24:43.239
Yeah, but you'd no, I
think it's a pretty good magazine, you

2054
02:24:43.319 --> 02:24:46.200
know, given that they could coast, they could put you know, they

2055
02:24:46.280 --> 02:24:50.079
could just write whatever. They could
just put it into some you know words

2056
02:24:50.079 --> 02:24:54.559
scrambler just put out onto the page. There you go. Dumb shits?

2057
02:24:54.399 --> 02:24:58.159
Have you guys been? Maybe this
is just me and the data that I've

2058
02:24:58.200 --> 02:25:03.479
been seeking out out, but I
feel like when I'm googling stuff lately,

2059
02:25:05.040 --> 02:25:09.639
more and more often I'm ending up
at the sort of like random like clearly

2060
02:25:09.799 --> 02:25:15.719
written either by a machine or by
like someone in China. Isn't that stuff

2061
02:25:15.719 --> 02:25:20.840
you mentioned a few weeks ago,
Yeah, is broken, But it's it's

2062
02:25:20.879 --> 02:25:24.360
the problem with search stuff as you
have people just like robots turning or or

2063
02:25:24.479 --> 02:25:28.000
you know, they're their demand what's
machines. Yeah. What's what's crazy though,

2064
02:25:28.079 --> 02:25:31.000
is that you keep like you get
to these articles and you look like,

2065
02:25:31.239 --> 02:25:35.440
Okay, well, this is like
the achievement guide for this one specific

2066
02:25:35.520 --> 02:25:41.959
achievement that I was trying to find
what's constantly like almost getting to the part

2067
02:25:41.000 --> 02:25:45.280
where it will have some sort of
information where it's constant like set up.

2068
02:25:45.360 --> 02:25:48.040
Like many people have trouble getting this
achievement because it's a hard achievement to get.

2069
02:25:48.200 --> 02:25:52.159
Also, like all the logic in
statements and all of the sentences are

2070
02:25:52.159 --> 02:25:54.600
completely circular likes because there's no actual
content. Right, No, there is

2071
02:25:54.680 --> 02:25:58.600
no actual but it's it's insane because
you keep reading it and like I'm like

2072
02:26:00.159 --> 02:26:01.920
and then the next line will be
where the information is, and like,

2073
02:26:03.200 --> 02:26:07.920
no, this is I have just
spent like at five minutes reading is something

2074
02:26:07.959 --> 02:26:11.479
that is truly empty, and yet
they it's amazing how they make it seem

2075
02:26:11.719 --> 02:26:15.959
like content. It like it is
devoid of user experience, there's nothing there

2076
02:26:16.000 --> 02:26:18.000
too experience. There was a big, great story recently about a guy who

2077
02:26:18.520 --> 02:26:24.360
sells eyeglasses, yeah, out in
New York, and and his whole thing

2078
02:26:24.440 --> 02:26:28.239
was was talking about like how he
thrives on negative reviews of his business because

2079
02:26:28.399 --> 02:26:31.120
all the links point back to his
site. So his seo ends up being

2080
02:26:31.239 --> 02:26:35.680
huge for just about any kind of
eyeglass stuff on the internet. But the

2081
02:26:35.719 --> 02:26:39.760
story, Yeah, Google finally like
respond and said like this shouldn't be happening,

2082
02:26:39.840 --> 02:26:41.799
and they're trying to make changes to
their algorithm to prevent people from doing

2083
02:26:41.840 --> 02:26:43.799
this sort of stuff. And then
they arrested. Yeah, then they ended

2084
02:26:43.840 --> 02:26:48.079
up arresting Well, he was literally
threatening people. Yeah, he was like

2085
02:26:48.159 --> 02:26:52.079
calling people up that were threatening with
the turns, and then you know they

2086
02:26:52.120 --> 02:26:56.280
would just get more and more mad
and go online harder and harder and in

2087
02:26:56.399 --> 02:27:00.200
more and more places and spread this
guy's name around, which because it's in

2088
02:27:00.200 --> 02:27:01.879
New York Times article, he was
like bragging. Yeah, he was like,

2089
02:27:01.959 --> 02:27:03.719
yeah, no, it works,
it's great. It's a new business

2090
02:27:03.760 --> 02:27:05.959
model. He's like, Yeah,
people call up and say I want to

2091
02:27:05.959 --> 02:27:07.879
return something, He's like, I'll
come to your house and kill you.

2092
02:27:09.200 --> 02:27:11.840
It's it's and it's it's one of
those things that you know, it's like

2093
02:27:11.879 --> 02:27:13.639
the pages, like the ones you're
talking about, are kind of how a

2094
02:27:13.719 --> 02:27:18.639
lot of the Internet stuff is developing. It's stuff that it's it's it's born

2095
02:27:18.760 --> 02:27:22.440
out of the same ideas that lead
to people putting up top ten lists that

2096
02:27:22.520 --> 02:27:24.399
have one entry on every page with
a big picture, right, you know,

2097
02:27:24.840 --> 02:27:28.760
is is we're just there. They
found a way that the Internet is

2098
02:27:28.799 --> 02:27:33.639
broken game that ends up getting them
more traffic. So they're going to try

2099
02:27:33.680 --> 02:27:37.719
to build to that. And it's
it's one of the things like not to

2100
02:27:37.959 --> 02:27:41.200
like you should try that. It
would be really easy to do it,

2101
02:27:43.399 --> 02:27:46.000
you know, like we could probably
double our you know, and we went

2102
02:27:46.040 --> 02:27:48.920
out our way to not do it
right, We could probably double our page

2103
02:27:48.000 --> 02:27:52.079
view traffic overnight if we just but
we love long pages. We love long

2104
02:27:52.120 --> 02:27:56.200
pages. Who doesn't. Yeah,
to finish answering this Deed's question, it

2105
02:27:56.319 --> 02:28:01.079
just in terms of like exclusives on
Informer versus the web. Yeah, And

2106
02:28:01.440 --> 02:28:05.959
that part of it is that game
publishers still love the Presties, even in

2107
02:28:07.040 --> 02:28:11.639
twenty ten of seeing their game on
a magazine cover, and honestly like that,

2108
02:28:11.879 --> 02:28:13.440
I don't mind it like, good
on them. They they made the

2109
02:28:13.520 --> 02:28:18.479
deal, they got the business.
The part that then annoys me is when

2110
02:28:18.559 --> 02:28:22.399
they have their print exclusive that they
put on their website and you know,

2111
02:28:22.520 --> 02:28:26.719
we can't run a piece of contents
because a deal made for a different medium.

2112
02:28:28.520 --> 02:28:33.639
Yeah, that's always been the that
that when when the the scene at

2113
02:28:33.760 --> 02:28:35.639
Ziff Split happened and one Up started
getting stuff like that is like, what

2114
02:28:35.799 --> 02:28:39.920
the fuck? There are a lot
of angry phone calls that came out of

2115
02:28:39.120 --> 02:28:43.959
our camp on this ship. Has
to stop what you're doing. Yeah,

2116
02:28:43.959 --> 02:28:46.959
because we are doing a little you
know, victory dancing. Oh sure,

2117
02:28:46.559 --> 02:28:54.360
if you had that to your advantage, absolutely, yeah. Yeah. And

2118
02:28:54.680 --> 02:28:56.719
you know, it's it's basically like
the the as far as like actual,

2119
02:28:56.959 --> 02:29:03.239
meaningful, big exclusive wals of new
games. It is Game Informer, and

2120
02:29:03.360 --> 02:29:05.600
it is Spike TV. It is
it is Jeff Keeley, and it is

2121
02:29:05.639 --> 02:29:11.159
Anti Mcamara. Those are the dudes
old media. Yeah, because it reached

2122
02:29:11.200 --> 02:29:13.520
you know, because of that reach
factor, because it actually does reach people.

2123
02:29:13.559 --> 02:29:16.559
Like I said that, you know, you could go have something that

2124
02:29:16.600 --> 02:29:20.280
appeared on the homepage of a game
spot and IGN and it might reach more

2125
02:29:20.440 --> 02:29:26.079
people in a day maybe, but
all those people are gonna be so wired

2126
02:29:26.120 --> 02:29:30.520
in that they're going to see that
content anyway, So it's it's kind of

2127
02:29:30.600 --> 02:29:35.079
pointless to to go with the big
web only outlets. At the magazine has

2128
02:29:35.120 --> 02:29:37.319
staying power. It sits on a
stand for like thirty days. Yeah right,

2129
02:29:37.479 --> 02:29:39.760
Yeah, that was. That was
a big thing too, and you

2130
02:29:39.840 --> 02:29:41.879
and you saw like one up try
to do it or they would like base

2131
02:29:41.920 --> 02:29:43.440
a whole week of coverage around a
game, Like any website is going to

2132
02:29:43.559 --> 02:29:46.280
leave a story up for like two
three days max, and it's gonna get

2133
02:29:46.879 --> 02:29:52.200
you, And it was. It
was. It was a very frustrating thing

2134
02:29:52.239 --> 02:29:56.120
when you're writing for the biggest website
in the world that has like a monthly

2135
02:29:56.239 --> 02:30:00.319
number that is way bigger than any
print magazine to look at that and go

2136
02:30:00.399 --> 02:30:01.760
like, what the fuck is going
on? But it is straight up just

2137
02:30:03.000 --> 02:30:07.000
the difference between preaching to the choir
or preaching to people that are all coming

2138
02:30:07.040 --> 02:30:11.479
in for a cheat code on one
page and never seeing your homepage versus the

2139
02:30:11.559 --> 02:30:15.600
magazine cover at the airport courses seeing
the magazine at the airport. I was

2140
02:30:15.719 --> 02:30:18.479
going to ask, because then we
were staying like, yeah, it'll be

2141
02:30:18.600 --> 02:30:24.120
on a news stand for thirty days. Fuck are there newsstands airports? I

2142
02:30:24.159 --> 02:30:28.440
guess so? Or more importantly,
the game stops where everyone is getting their

2143
02:30:28.479 --> 02:30:35.399
free subscription with with with purchase.
Yes, New York has plenty of newsstands,

2144
02:30:35.479 --> 02:30:41.440
like literally on the street, like
dude selling cigarettes checked out, there's

2145
02:30:41.479 --> 02:30:43.280
a huge news stand staring in the
face as you walk out of the checkout.

2146
02:30:43.280 --> 02:30:46.000
I guess. But that's not where
Game in Former. No, not

2147
02:30:46.120 --> 02:30:48.079
in this case. You're right.
But yeah, so you're saying that it's

2148
02:30:48.120 --> 02:30:52.239
a game exclusives should be revealed on
the cover of people. Sure, I

2149
02:30:52.360 --> 02:30:56.600
know, I'm a sweep guy,
so yeah, like how crazy is that?

2150
02:30:56.879 --> 02:31:01.559
You know Jimmy found uncharted exclusive.
That's well, he keeps doing that.

2151
02:31:01.600 --> 02:31:03.639
He's been doing that year now.
And Gavin it's it's I think you

2152
02:31:03.680 --> 02:31:07.000
know, Jimmy Fallon is of their
age group where he cares about it.

2153
02:31:07.040 --> 02:31:09.600
And then his producer, Gavin Purcell
used to be at G four, so

2154
02:31:09.719 --> 02:31:13.239
he's interested in all this stuff and
is wired into all that stuff too.

2155
02:31:13.520 --> 02:31:16.639
That guy, Yeah, I didn't
know that, so you know, like

2156
02:31:16.760 --> 02:31:18.680
he he cares about that stuff.
They care about that stuff. They realize

2157
02:31:18.719 --> 02:31:22.479
that that's something that no one's gonna
do and I think it's it's awesome that

2158
02:31:22.479 --> 02:31:24.959
they're doing it. Yeah, so
they're getting tech stuff and game stuff like

2159
02:31:24.000 --> 02:31:26.399
they had Connect on a couple of
times. It's it's cool. I think

2160
02:31:26.399 --> 02:31:31.239
it's way more awesome about that than
than the Spike TV stuff. Jim he

2161
02:31:31.319 --> 02:31:35.159
founds like way more mainstream obviously,
yeah, way more, way more people.

2162
02:31:35.440 --> 02:31:39.360
It's on a network, it is
not it is not it's not deep

2163
02:31:39.440 --> 02:31:41.639
cable, right. Uh. You
know they just need to, you know,

2164
02:31:41.760 --> 02:31:45.680
eliminate his monologues and put more of
that stuff than in the Jimmy Fowlan

2165
02:31:45.719 --> 02:31:48.600
show Young Good to Go. Yeah, a lot of the bits on Fallon,

2166
02:31:48.639 --> 02:31:50.440
I think I've been really good.
His bits are great. Yeah.

2167
02:31:50.479 --> 02:31:52.959
I think I think he's and I
think he's finding and I think eighty miles

2168
02:31:54.040 --> 02:31:58.280
is hilarious and he's like writes for
that show, uh and is on it

2169
02:31:58.319 --> 02:32:01.959
a bunch. So I just like, I don't think he could deliver the

2170
02:32:01.360 --> 02:32:05.200
topical monologues to save his life.
I think he just needs to go for

2171
02:32:05.280 --> 02:32:07.079
more with the like update whenever his
strong like when he was doing Weekend and

2172
02:32:07.120 --> 02:32:09.879
we can update on that's I never
thought that was no, No, it

2173
02:32:09.959 --> 02:32:13.639
wasn't his his his strongest I just
whatever. His strongest point is cracking up.

2174
02:32:15.319 --> 02:32:18.600
But I feel I feel like with
that show, like with the video

2175
02:32:18.639 --> 02:32:20.559
game stuff, it's been nothing but
him being like, hey, you don't

2176
02:32:20.559 --> 02:32:24.239
want to be awesome? If I
could get like Jeff Goldbloom and Bismarck Key

2177
02:32:24.319 --> 02:32:28.079
out here to do a duet of
just a friend, and I'll get it

2178
02:32:28.239 --> 02:32:31.520
on too, basically, Like he's
just like, what are all the things

2179
02:32:31.559 --> 02:32:33.280
that I would think, like,
like you know, sixteen year old me

2180
02:32:33.399 --> 02:32:37.399
would think would be awesome. I'll
play like the newest video games before they're

2181
02:32:37.399 --> 02:32:39.840
out, all right, get those
fuckers in here. Yeah, you know,

2182
02:32:39.959 --> 02:32:43.559
let's let's get I'm gonna get the
guy to play Zach Morris for real

2183
02:32:43.719 --> 02:32:46.200
here. You know. It's that's
his whole thing. Anyways, there's the

2184
02:32:46.239 --> 02:32:52.719
game and four perspective. Thank you, Jeff's yeah for providing the old man

2185
02:32:52.840 --> 02:32:56.559
perspective. It's been a long fight, man, and we lost Next Evil

2186
02:32:56.600 --> 02:33:03.040
come from landing. That's right,
Andy Max sitting out there and fucking Minnesota.

2187
02:33:03.879 --> 02:33:09.040
I'm happy to give it up.
Yeah. That is he is.

2188
02:33:09.440 --> 02:33:13.440
Yeah, and he was one of
the first dudes I had met when I

2189
02:33:13.600 --> 02:33:16.879
started hanging out trade shows with no
jobs. I was definitely thinking if I

2190
02:33:18.159 --> 02:33:20.239
would never quit that job, I'd
say, in that job forever if I

2191
02:33:20.399 --> 02:33:22.280
was him. Well, now,
yeah, now that he's gotten to you

2192
02:33:22.360 --> 02:33:26.360
know, he ascended to to e
I C. It's like, just run

2193
02:33:26.399 --> 02:33:31.639
your empire. I think he owns
all the Minnesota at this point, him

2194
02:33:31.639 --> 02:33:33.959
and Prince pretty much just probably split
it. So right down in the middle.

2195
02:33:35.040 --> 02:33:41.159
Yeah, Landon Smith in Coleman,
Alabama. Hey, bomb cast,

2196
02:33:41.479 --> 02:33:43.239
I'll keep this story short. A
few weeks ago, my brother and I

2197
02:33:43.399 --> 02:33:46.600
came into a sum of money and
we decided to get a game with it.

2198
02:33:46.040 --> 02:33:52.000
The original plan was to get Wow. We robbed a guy why he

2199
02:33:52.079 --> 02:33:54.440
was bleeding on the street. We
were like, let's go buy some murder

2200
02:33:54.639 --> 02:33:58.840
simulators. Just keep it, just
keeping it short. There's a much better

2201
02:34:00.040 --> 02:34:03.040
story, alright, Just let you
know, you know, a drug deal

2202
02:34:03.079 --> 02:34:09.120
gone right. We rolled up some
oregano and sold it to some dumb kids

2203
02:34:09.159 --> 02:34:15.040
as weedy sixty bucks. Next time
we're at school, though, they're kicking

2204
02:34:15.079 --> 02:34:18.239
our asses. My mom drinks a
lot, so first is easy to get

2205
02:34:18.319 --> 02:34:26.959
to the original plan was to get
the Game of the Year Borderland's edition but

2206
02:34:26.040 --> 02:34:31.600
at some point my brother suddenly decided
he wanted Fable three instead. After days

2207
02:34:31.600 --> 02:34:35.799
of trying to tell him there was
nothing about Fable three to get excited for,

2208
02:34:35.000 --> 02:34:41.040
we got it all the same.
Now, not only is the game

2209
02:34:41.159 --> 02:34:43.760
bad, but we are out sixty
bucks and the game has caused a number

2210
02:34:43.799 --> 02:34:46.360
of arguments between us. This is
like a screenplay. Is it's like the

2211
02:34:46.559 --> 02:34:52.719
like the like the Local Kids version
of like heists. Yeah, let's cast

2212
02:34:52.799 --> 02:34:54.559
it right. It's like, you
know, hold on, hold on.

2213
02:34:56.440 --> 02:35:00.120
His name is Trey. You guys
should make him apologize to me. Me.

2214
02:35:00.799 --> 02:35:03.959
So we have so we have Landing
and Tray, right, Trey being

2215
02:35:05.000 --> 02:35:07.079
the brother that actually purchasing the games, I'm gonna assume these. So Michael

2216
02:35:07.120 --> 02:35:11.319
land in an ice cube. That's
how we cast us done. Uh,

2217
02:35:13.040 --> 02:35:20.120
you should just made a mistake,
I think, dude. Come on,

2218
02:35:20.239 --> 02:35:26.440
Trey, Yeah, give me the
motherfucking Fable tray. You're not gonna come

2219
02:35:26.479 --> 02:35:28.799
into that semi money again. So
that's a bummer. Tell me about the

2220
02:35:28.879 --> 02:35:31.959
numbers tray. When I found one
hundred old bill on my lawn, I

2221
02:35:33.000 --> 02:35:37.280
went and bought pac Man for the
atar eight hundred story is so much better

2222
02:35:37.399 --> 02:35:41.799
than the letter. Yeah, what
do you mean you came into money and

2223
02:35:41.840 --> 02:35:43.719
body game? Right, that's not
a lot of money to come into,

2224
02:35:43.879 --> 02:35:48.000
so right, it's yeah, you
know, well obviously there's there. There

2225
02:35:48.079 --> 02:35:52.000
is fifty nine ninety nine plus sex. Obviously there is that story. Because

2226
02:35:52.559 --> 02:35:58.319
somehow they're both and all those money. Yeah, they and they're both so

2227
02:35:58.399 --> 02:36:01.879
both have some they both have some
sort of claim to this sixty bucks.

2228
02:36:01.959 --> 02:36:07.600
Like I was the lookout round that
job, so I'm entitled to a cut

2229
02:36:07.639 --> 02:36:11.360
of this cash. You stole the
car with all the hands in and from

2230
02:36:11.399 --> 02:36:16.719
that homeless guy. What are we
gonna do? I love that, like

2231
02:36:16.840 --> 02:36:20.879
fighting back and forth like I would
hope that went on for such a long

2232
02:36:20.000 --> 02:36:24.040
time. There was a real small
pushing that lady down in front of the

2233
02:36:24.040 --> 02:36:28.680
coinstar machine. I will ret you
out. I will ret you out if

2234
02:36:28.680 --> 02:36:31.559
you get Fable. It looks really
good. Though. We said we were

2235
02:36:31.600 --> 02:36:35.959
getting Borderland's right, So we got
we got it, Borderland's right, right,

2236
02:36:37.079 --> 02:36:48.200
I got Fable? What did you
do that? Sorry? I was

2237
02:36:48.280 --> 02:36:52.760
in there. I freaked out.
The guy was like to watch he knew.

2238
02:36:52.159 --> 02:37:03.479
The guy knew. Oh, Jean
Luke from South Burlington, Vermont.

2239
02:37:05.040 --> 02:37:09.879
There there are four lights. Next
question, No, hey, BombCast.

2240
02:37:09.920 --> 02:37:15.120
I was listening to the Tron Legacy
soundtrack, which score is a delight?

2241
02:37:15.440 --> 02:37:18.120
I have to I have to recommend
it. Uh And I couldn't help but

2242
02:37:18.200 --> 02:37:22.719
notice some similarities to the music in
Mass Effect. Naturally, the line of

2243
02:37:22.799 --> 02:37:26.559
thinking led me to the logical conclusion
that Daft Punk should do the soundtrack for

2244
02:37:26.639 --> 02:37:30.079
Mass Effect. Three thoughts. I
think that'd be pretty good. It would.

2245
02:37:30.200 --> 02:37:33.799
They did a hell of a job. It's jealous and it's not to

2246
02:37:33.879 --> 02:37:37.520
just be the guy who sits there
and says like you should see the movie,

2247
02:37:37.719 --> 02:37:41.680
but the score you fit into the
movie even better, even better.

2248
02:37:43.280 --> 02:37:45.239
It feels like listening to it,
I'm like, Okay, I see the

2249
02:37:45.280 --> 02:37:48.040
parts where this is a character theme, right, score, it's a score.

2250
02:37:48.120 --> 02:37:50.239
It's definitely a score. You're not
gonna do it like it's a daft

2251
02:37:50.239 --> 02:37:54.920
Punk album. There there's maybe one
dance track. Three. There's a couple

2252
02:37:54.959 --> 02:38:00.959
that are not necessarily dance tracks,
but there are three tracks that have By

2253
02:38:01.079 --> 02:38:03.799
this thinking, you're getting a daft
Punk alt. Are you gonna be bummed

2254
02:38:03.799 --> 02:38:05.639
out a little bit? Yeah?
Bigger question here is what the hell is

2255
02:38:05.719 --> 02:38:09.120
vangelis doing? Now? This should
be doing mass efect. Yeah, Like,

2256
02:38:09.440 --> 02:38:11.920
why is he not going out and
finding this guy? Like that's what

2257
02:38:11.959 --> 02:38:20.920
they've been aping the whole time.
What is a Vangelius? Guys, Jesus

2258
02:38:20.319 --> 02:38:26.680
Vgelus zero, He's the same person. That's what we learned. Answer solved.

2259
02:38:28.440 --> 02:38:33.399
Vangelis is just a stage name.
Final email comes in from Nathan Calgary,

2260
02:38:33.520 --> 02:38:37.920
Alberta. Understand that's in the great
country of Canadathaniel. Nope, just

2261
02:38:39.079 --> 02:38:43.680
Nathaniel. I just want to spill
your just want to knock this drink off

2262
02:38:43.760 --> 02:38:46.680
the table. Sure, punch in
the nose. I'm gonna make you put

2263
02:38:46.680 --> 02:38:50.920
your hand in the bag of peas. Oh not the pea bag. You

2264
02:38:52.360 --> 02:38:54.879
are wrapping up your kid time in
the kitchen. This is a scenario.

2265
02:38:58.040 --> 02:39:01.280
Yeah, no, I thought I
was recording a podcast. I'll tell me

2266
02:39:01.280 --> 02:39:03.120
about the numbers. Well, I'll
tell you about this time I was in

2267
02:39:03.120 --> 02:39:07.520
the kitchen wrapping up. Please continue. You are wrapping up your time in

2268
02:39:07.559 --> 02:39:11.959
the kitchen and are heading out to
the TV area, food and beverage in

2269
02:39:11.079 --> 02:39:16.479
hand. You reach for the light
and spill just the tiniest bit of drink

2270
02:39:16.639 --> 02:39:20.399
on the floor. Do you dab
up the spill with your sock? Or

2271
02:39:20.600 --> 02:39:26.079
take the time to set everything down
and deal with the problem properly. Vinty

2272
02:39:26.200 --> 02:39:30.399
caravellas a carpet or is it carpet
carpet? Then yeah, fuck, I

2273
02:39:30.399 --> 02:39:33.680
don't even dab it, just let
it go a bit, right, yes,

2274
02:39:33.760 --> 02:39:39.479
he said, he said, the
tiniest bit, like and it's probably

2275
02:39:39.639 --> 02:39:43.079
it's probably water, so not specified
your drink. Yeah it's cranberry juice.

2276
02:39:46.040 --> 02:39:48.079
That's a different story. My carpets
are such a color of the for me,

2277
02:39:48.479 --> 02:39:54.840
no matter what the sock, I'm
not bending over sock feel like it's

2278
02:39:54.959 --> 02:40:00.559
quickly basically dab it up. Yeah, it's foot footwels tell you where,

2279
02:40:00.799 --> 02:40:03.639
yeah, Jeff, Jeff, you
are absolutely one percent in for sock.

2280
02:40:05.600 --> 02:40:09.360
Yeah yeah, or I just ignore
it because my my carpets, and yeah,

2281
02:40:09.360 --> 02:40:11.280
they're they're pretty dark, like kind
of gnarly. Yeah, you guys

2282
02:40:11.280 --> 02:40:15.399
also a little light little light the
place, Yeah, very very poorly lit.

2283
02:40:15.639 --> 02:40:18.479
For what would I would definitely sock
it. Oh yeah, yeah,

2284
02:40:18.680 --> 02:40:22.399
like yeah, that's just not even
a question, not even but yeah,

2285
02:40:22.399 --> 02:40:26.239
I'm definitely I'm definitely saying carpet.
I'm just having water anyway, right,

2286
02:40:26.920 --> 02:40:30.239
Yeah, probably if it's water.
If it's water, I'll sock it if

2287
02:40:30.280 --> 02:40:33.959
it's some sticky water chestnuts. You
ever had an ant problem when you've got

2288
02:40:33.079 --> 02:40:37.200
sticky sugary stuff out, I know
what you're talking about. Clean this.

2289
02:40:37.440 --> 02:40:41.559
Yeah, sock all the way,
should clean up, especially that don't be

2290
02:40:41.639 --> 02:40:46.399
disgusting. I know, I don't. I would sock ever all the time.

2291
02:40:46.600 --> 02:40:50.559
Yeah, I'm one hundred percent sock
sock. But then your foots all

2292
02:40:50.600 --> 02:40:58.600
sticky. Bit I'm not drinking.
Yeah, if it's just a little bit

2293
02:40:58.639 --> 02:41:01.600
of it, it's not gonna make
your entire foot sticky. It doesn't have

2294
02:41:01.680 --> 02:41:07.840
to be the time. I'm not
drinking gum. What would be sorry?

2295
02:41:09.040 --> 02:41:18.920
Go on? Also depends if manname
was podcast Jeff Green, thanks for coming

2296
02:41:20.000 --> 02:41:22.559
through. God. Damn, that
was way too long. I blamed the

2297
02:41:22.760 --> 02:41:35.920
super slowed down. This was your
idea for listeners, water water everyone,

2298
02:41:37.120 --> 02:41:46.440
for Patrician Purduc what's up of God? Next week, let's just do it

2299
02:41:46.520 --> 02:41:50.440
all talking like talking backwards, so
we can just reverse the podcast to do

2300
02:41:50.559 --> 02:41:56.159
it forwards. So look forward to
that next week that Bobcast