1 00:00:15,359 --> 00:00:20,719 What is krack alac in. Fellow thermonuclear affors, I am Dan for Valley, 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,440 coming at you with my certified fantabulous thermonuclear A f is okay with his 3 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:31,480 children listening to profane podcasts like this one. Co host mister Grant ques. 4 00:00:31,839 --> 00:00:36,640 We have an instructive exercise that we are going to I don't want to say 5 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,159 blow through because we put thought. There's real thought behind this, but it's 6 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,359 trade season. You're listening to this. It dropped on December fifteenth. That's 7 00:00:43,399 --> 00:00:47,079 the unofficial official start of trade season, which is to say there will be 8 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,600 no trades because they don't deactually happen. On December fifteenth, the rumor mill 9 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:55,520 will pick up. Now we are going to do our biggest need for every 10 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,960 NBA team entering the trade deadline. But the twist is we have sixty minutes 11 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:02,640 to do it from when we start the segment. There will be stat padding 12 00:01:02,679 --> 00:01:06,400 afterwards, so this will run longer than an hour. And I'm rambling right 13 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,200 now as the preamble and the intro, but we are going to have two 14 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:11,159 minutes per team. The goal is just to get through this. We will 15 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,079 go deeper into these teams as we get close to the trade deadline, but 16 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,959 we thought this would be a good exercise. Grant and I are also trying 17 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,640 to get in some cardio because he's in solidarity and cutting with me now, 18 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,280 so we're just we're getting cardio and even with the podcast. 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And 28 00:01:57,239 --> 00:02:00,719 now to the real question. First and foremost, the actual question people want 29 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:04,120 to answer, Grant, how are you doing? I am, as you 30 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:07,919 can see, perfectly framed right now, uh, just dead center of the 31 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,280 frame. Uh, so that you won't have to make This isn't a section 32 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,879 you'll have to edit into shorts. But I I'm going to say right here, 33 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,520 because we we what are we if not our habits? So I'm just 34 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,199 going to form a habit right now and hold still right in the middle of 35 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,840 the frame for as long as I can. As a background, I mentioned 36 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,280 to Grant, and I've been meaning to mention it to him for a while, 37 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,719 but I always forget. There was a short though, a clip that 38 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:38,280 I edited that ended up being just so egregious because he was bouncing around the 39 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:42,080 frame and I had to do these wild edits to make it work, and 40 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,919 it ended with him being like right up against the screen. So I asked 41 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,039 him, if if I forget to remind you, can you just try and 42 00:02:49,439 --> 00:02:52,599 straighten out your frame for the shorts. I don't care how your I said, 43 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,080 we none of us should care. We can both lounge back during the 44 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,599 podcast. I'm sure people are just listening to this in the background, so 45 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,159 that is I Grant. But now Grant has taken it way too. He's 46 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:05,800 gonna be sitting like this for the rest of his life. This would be 47 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,960 great for my posture. I'm just a fidgety sitter, as I told you, 48 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,840 so I you know, I bounce all over the place and I'm rockinging 49 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,039 my chair, rocking in my chair right now. But when you the way 50 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:22,639 you framed it is you prefaced it with like I've been meaning to tell you 51 00:03:22,719 --> 00:03:28,360 this for like months, so and then I don't think there was like a 52 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,520 really long pause, but when someone says that to you, like really, 53 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:35,080 all the doors are open, like what's coming next. Unfortunately, it was 54 00:03:35,159 --> 00:03:37,360 just like, hey, stay in the middle of the frame, stupid, 55 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:40,800 and don't don't move around, because it could have been like you have a 56 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:45,159 terrible disease. I don't know why I know this, but I should tell 57 00:03:45,199 --> 00:03:49,120 you that. Or honestly, if it wasn't for that one clip where you 58 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:51,759 were just all over the place, I probably never would have said anything, 59 00:03:51,759 --> 00:03:54,039 because it's just the only other part I was worried about was I was making 60 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:59,759 you smaller and less prominent on screen than you should be for these very like 61 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,759 all subsets of the beginning of the clips, and I didn't want you to 62 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,919 be a fan like why is Dan so huge and just powering over me out? 63 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,639 But then when you were bouncing around and ended up like with your face 64 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,039 inside the camera, I said, all right, because I fig it too, 65 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,240 I fige it with my hat, because I wear hats a lot, 66 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,160 I like kind of lean back or I'll go like I'll just twist side to 67 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,639 side, and some of the shorts have me doing that. Yours was just 68 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,959 like it was just so funny. I wasn't it was so ridiculous. It 69 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,600 wasn't something that was mad or even super tedious. But I was like, 70 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,839 okay, like this this this is a little bit challenge. This is officially 71 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,600 making more work for me. So hold still and don't slouch and be in 72 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:36,759 the middle. I get it. I get it. Look, if we 73 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,439 got to help each other, you know this, or you be free to 74 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,360 move though you're sitting so still right now. Very because if anyone's watching on 75 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:46,720 YouTube, I'm very concerned about the lack of mobility. Part of part of 76 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:54,079 it is because I'm I am trying to get real serious about blowing through thirty 77 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:57,600 teams in sixty minutes, which is just like an unheard of thing for us, 78 00:04:57,639 --> 00:05:00,040 Like I just it's this is a real one for the most like who 79 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,279 is I know, we see the reactions to our articles by the way, 80 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:06,879 and shout out. I mean Kenny Beacham is a behemoth and puts in the 81 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,920 work. But he's able to go through our league wide sliders. I've watched 82 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,360 them before, and he does them. I know, he cuts it up 83 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,879 like he doesn't in like twenty minutes. That is the only person on planet 84 00:05:15,879 --> 00:05:18,800 Earth that is able to go through that much material in such a short I 85 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:24,399 can't. Who's talking about thirty teams and giving coherent analysis in the process. 86 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,279 Sure as hell's not gonna be us right now. Well, we haven't even 87 00:05:28,319 --> 00:05:31,279 started yet, don't don't sink us before we started. Possibly we've added a 88 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:36,040 wrinkle to the fold two because the alphabet is stupid. We are going to 89 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:43,720 go in order of ascending winning percentage entering games on Thursday, December fourteenth, 90 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,600 and so that means the Pistons go first and we work our way up from 91 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:53,040 there. And that is either great or terrible news for Orlando Magic fans, 92 00:05:53,079 --> 00:05:56,120 who would probably be used to hearing their team a lot sooner if we were 93 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,040 going in order of ascending winning percentage. Let's let's start the timer. What 94 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:03,959 do we What do we do when I have a timer? So I who's 95 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,000 going first? I'm gonna start? You got the Pistons first, all right? 96 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,720 So look, two minutes per team, and this is the biggest need 97 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,680 for every NBA team entering the trade deadline as per our view, Are you 98 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,920 ready grant yes, the Detroit Pistons, they need to be relegated to the 99 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,199 G League. That is actually not what I have they could use. They 100 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,839 need to kind of choose a direction and optimize the roster. But I think 101 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:31,759 what they if you're looking for a player archetype, for them to target a 102 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,519 combo forward who doesn't shrink the floor and then by extension, forces them to 103 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,040 ditch the dual big crutch. And I don't mean we're not seeing James Wiseman 104 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,680 and Marvin Bagley every five seconds when they're both healthy. They consider Isaiah Stewart 105 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,959 a stretch big and he's just not not in the truest sense. And so 106 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,639 I'm not saying they should go and actually spend assets on either reguard that nudges 107 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,399 Bodanovich and Isaiah Livers and you know, even Afsar Thompson up to the four 108 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:00,480 every five seconds, and Thompson is not a stretch big. It's made that 109 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,199 clear. But if you can get a Gordon Hayward or someone in that vein 110 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,920 just like a veteran who's not going to come at this stark opportunity cost. 111 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:13,079 I say do it, because it's not about adding wins to now, it's 112 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,879 just about streamlining the development of the youngsters who Manty Williams is willing to play, 113 00:07:16,879 --> 00:07:20,120 which apparently isn't very many of them at the moment. Yeah, it's 114 00:07:20,199 --> 00:07:24,480 kind of I mean, it's kind of a Bogdanovich spot if you were like 115 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:28,079 a little more athletic, defensively viable, just you know, and maybe he's 116 00:07:28,079 --> 00:07:30,079 a little undersized to be a four. He's like a four against certain lineups. 117 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:33,800 But something like that. I'm actually saying do that, but you need 118 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,959 someone else to ensure that those are the types of minutes you're sticking with for 119 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 the full four year. Yeah, they're just it's a top, it's an 120 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,240 over it's like over index for big guys that can't play anything but center, 121 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:46,199 and they just keep trying to shoehorn guys into other spots. All right, 122 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,040 let's go to the San Antonio Spurs there next. In order of as sending 123 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,800 win percentage. I mean, this is this is not news. This has 124 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:56,160 been the case all season. They need just a game managing, you know, 125 00:07:56,399 --> 00:07:59,759 quarterback, basically, someone who's gonna make plays this This person is a 126 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,000 sentally Trade Jones. He exists and is on the roster. I think in 127 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,399 a perfect world you would like this, you know, player type to be. 128 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:09,360 You know, you name the percent at ten percent better than Trade Jones, 129 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,279 someone that's not shooting, you know, under thirty percent from three for 130 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:15,839 the second year in a row, Like that's not great. But you know, 131 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:18,920 Trade Jones doesn't turn it over, is going to make decent decisions most 132 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,839 of the time. It's just going to get the ball where it's supposed to 133 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:24,000 go. So maybe just play him as one solution or start him or just 134 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:28,519 you know, that's that's the whole there. Jeremy Soon was a fun uh 135 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:31,240 experiment at the point, But they're done with that now. I think, 136 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:35,639 yeah, yeah, fun is you can bump on the word fun for sure. 137 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,879 Uh but you know that that well, we got a minute maybe plus 138 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:45,200 here on the spurs before we have to what are your thoughts on that whole 139 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:50,519 Jeremy Sohan at point guard experiment, like, did you could was it justifiable 140 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,519 to you? Yeah? Oh yeah, it was worth trying. But now 141 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,440 it's like, you know, you mentioned getting a game manager. Then that's 142 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,240 going to allow Jeremy so so and to one figure out his role away from 143 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:01,279 the ball, but then he can kind of why don't you experiment with him 144 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:05,240 as a secondary ball handler. You're still not doing any favors by if you're 145 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:09,120 starting, you know, Victor Wembenyam at the five is fun too to try 146 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,360 that out, But like Malachi Brandam instead of Trey Jones, it doesn't make 147 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:15,679 any sense to me. And so if you want Trey Jones to come off 148 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,039 the bench or don't trust him in higher volume reps, go out and trade 149 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,759 for like Monte Morris once he's healthy, or Tias Jones or just somebody. 150 00:09:22,039 --> 00:09:24,759 Yeah, agree, what do you make very quickly because we have a few 151 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:28,879 seconds the idea of would you want another big here or do you like this 152 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,200 idea that we've seen Wemby challenge way more shots at the rim and he's kind 153 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,440 of the five in a lot of these situations. Now, I just think 154 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:41,440 in the the optimal version of the spurs and Wembenyama is with him at center. 155 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,639 So if like it's going okay already, I think you just lean harder 156 00:09:45,639 --> 00:09:48,159 into that. And if you want just like a you know, a third 157 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,799 string big to just be there. Fine, But I mean you can just 158 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,440 go find those guys for the minimum or guys that aren't even in the league 159 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:58,840 right now to do that. I just would lean as hard as possible into 160 00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:01,840 him playing five, because that's that's just like what that's how you get the 161 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:07,720 best out of him and the guys around him. I think ultimately Washington Wizards 162 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,159 need all sorts of stuff. I think we can just default to. They 163 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:15,399 don't have any real first round picks in the bank from other teams. They 164 00:10:15,399 --> 00:10:18,320 have that fake first basically from the Warriors in twenty thirty. They still do. 165 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,240 It can kind of be masked because they have a lot of They have 166 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,679 Tias Jones and when Delawn Wright is healthy, they do have Jordan Poole. 167 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,120 But they need a lead playmaker of the future, and I think you build 168 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:33,960 out your team from there, like that's the position to start with. The 169 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:39,039 problem is one, he's not on the roster like blah cool Bali is a 170 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:41,879 head of schedule, but he's not that guy. And Denny Avi is not 171 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:46,200 going to be that guy. You're not probably going to trade for that guy 172 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,279 though, because it doesn't make sense to give up the equity to get him. 173 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:52,000 Now, if you were very high on a Jade and Ivy and he 174 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,720 became available, that's kind of the situation where it's, okay, let's go 175 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,320 out and get him, but you have to be high on j n ivy 176 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,320 and then it's how much has a cost to actually land him? And it 177 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,600 doesn't make sense to mortgage your future when you're so early into your rebuild. 178 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,759 But that's the type of player they should be going after. Aside from that, 179 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:13,679 though, and I think we're both in agreement there is this should just 180 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,279 be distressed asset central, whereas we're just gonna we're gonna take these like Alexey 181 00:11:18,279 --> 00:11:20,480 Polkowski, Yeah, go get him from the Thunder. Yeah. Second draft 182 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:24,440 guys, do you real quick, do you think they thought Jordan Poole was 183 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:28,360 that guy? Or is it just like, yeah, we'll take him because 184 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Chris Paul doesn't make sense here and the money fits and he's decent, you 185 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:35,159 know, he's a decent upside bet. I yeah, I think you hit 186 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:37,320 the nail on the head there, But in retrospect, it would have made 187 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,080 way more sense to, i mean, buy out Chris Paul and just deal 188 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,639 with that flax or try and move Chris Paul at the deadline rather than be 189 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,120 saddled with the money remaining on Pool's deal, because the final three years of 190 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,360 that contract look very bad. Now, yeah, man, he's I thought 191 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:58,080 he would be just putting up points like crazy and inefficiently, but he's just 192 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,080 like not doing either of those things. Well, all right, So that 193 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,159 takes us to the Memphis Grizzlies. This will be the case for a lot 194 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,919 of teams, I think, But it doesn't mean it's it's the wrong take, 195 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,360 Like they need a properly size like say, big wing ish you know, 196 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:13,799 big ish wing of the future, who can you know, play some 197 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,639 four and is not gonna be like a one way type of player. We 198 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:22,320 don't know how many times we said desire Williams, man, this is it 199 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,039 is gonna be him, just hasn't been so far. And Marcus smart, 200 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:28,919 now you're gonna ask him to do In addition, once he's healthy to being 201 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:31,039 your point guard and your best wing defender, you need him to take on 202 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,159 another more versatile role. Like that's just I don't know if you can handle 203 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:37,759 any one of those things, let alone you know, two or three at 204 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,120 this point. So that's that's kind of a lot you could throw in. 205 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:43,960 I think you're wise to do this in the notes, you know, another 206 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,600 big center to play with Jaron Jackson, which maybe isn't an issue if Steven 207 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,960 Adams gets right in his back, because you just be like, let's get 208 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,679 a Steven Adams type, you know. But if you have the actual Steven 209 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,559 Adams and he's healthy and can play, then I mean we know what he's 210 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,200 meant to that team. So that's kind of two things. But the big 211 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,240 wing really is it for me because Smart just you just can't ask Smart to 212 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:05,120 do as many things as it even with Morant back, they're gonna ask him 213 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:07,759 to do. The problem for them is that archetype is so hard to find. 214 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,080 And this is not the season to now double down because the season is 215 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,200 done. It's just over them. They're not gonna I think their playoff chances 216 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:18,279 for ESPN or like zero at this point, and so it'll be different when 217 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,039 Jock comes back. We were dealing with so many other injuries. I kind 218 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:24,519 of just feel like you can try and make the most out of the season. 219 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:26,440 I'm not saying punt on it, but it makes more sense. You 220 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,320 mentioned the bigger like another big it's this is an Andre Drummond team, whereas 221 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,720 we don't really give up any real assets, we get someone who kind of 222 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,679 helps us replicate what we were doing last year a little bit, or replicate 223 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,200 some of what Steven Adams does, and we'll try to figure it out and 224 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,879 make the bigger move over the offseason. But like their absence of a big 225 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:48,320 picture wing is glaring, and they waited too long to consolidate, and then 226 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,080 they probably consolidated into the wrong player once they did. Yeah, turns out 227 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,840 Smart was the was not the guy. Didn't hate it at the time, 228 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:56,720 just for the record, but I just pused it at the time. So 229 00:13:56,799 --> 00:13:58,799 let me do my victory lap here, even though we're not even a full 230 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:03,960 seat into the experiment. The next team up is the Portland Trailblazers, and 231 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,320 they're similar to a lot of these teams that are going to be the worst 232 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,879 in the league where it's hey, they should be distressed assets Central. There's 233 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:13,919 you should look at moving Malcolm Brogden, you should look at moving Jeremy Grant. 234 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,600 You should even maybe look at moving Anthony Simons, although I don't think 235 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,639 you have to, uh, but when I look at them, and try 236 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:24,399 and envision. Okay, we know they have Shandon Sharp, they have Scoot 237 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Henderson Simons is there. Is he part of the long term I don't know. 238 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,919 They have some interesting flyers at center when they're healthy, which none of 239 00:14:30,919 --> 00:14:33,519 them are, so that's something they consider they need. Like the bigger picture 240 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:39,080 combo forward the three four where it's Latis Cybele and Jeremy Grant are not gonna 241 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,799 be a part of the next good iteration of the Blazers, and so can 242 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:46,960 you go out there and find again it's similar to no, don't go out 243 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,320 and give up all these assets to go get a really high end prospect. 244 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,080 But can you look at a second draft type guy who's gonna come in or 245 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,320 just a complete flyer stab in the dark who can come in log minutes at 246 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:01,000 the two, three four. I know Shandon Sharp is I like a fringe 247 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,519 wing. I just don't know if you want him defending those bigger types of 248 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,720 power perimeter players. Yeah. I think that's right. When you look at 249 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:11,720 the you know, the next good version of this team, as you said, 250 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:15,480 it's Scoot and it's Sharp. I think at the one and the two, 251 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,600 and then Simon's then becomes kind of and maybe Simons takes another step, 252 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:22,600 but if he doesn't, then I feel like he's kind of like an over 253 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:24,799 He's a little overpaid for what you're gonna ask him to do because I don't 254 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,120 like the three of those guys on the floor together. It's too small, 255 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:31,320 the defense isn't good enough. So he's like a reserve at this point. 256 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:35,919 You know that we're talking about in this hypothetical future, and that's he doesn't 257 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,080 quite do it for me having Simons in that role for that money. So 258 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,480 I'm with you there. Charlotte Hornets are next. I mean they need a 259 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,519 lot. You might say a healthy LaMelo ball is one of those things. 260 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:52,240 But I think and outside of him, outside of Brandon Miller, who's been 261 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,879 better than I thought, even if I'm still not sure, his ceiling is 262 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:58,000 as high as you want for a pick, you know that high at number 263 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,759 two. And Mark Williams, I think we've seen enough. He's like a 264 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:03,720 starting caliber center. I don't know where he ranks, you know, if 265 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,440 you're ranking the thirty starting centers in the league, but I don't know, 266 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,960 it's probably closer to fifteen than thirty. And for what they're paying him and 267 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:15,600 what he can do, that's fine by me. So like they need more 268 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:18,039 assets, they need more First, you can trade Gordon Hayward, you can 269 00:16:18,039 --> 00:16:22,080 trade other you know, whatever else you can to sort of bolster the you 270 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,120 know, the asset store. But then also like and maybe Brandon Miller's this 271 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,600 guy, I'd be curious on your thoughts someone to just guard the point of 272 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,519 attack, you know, handle the pick and roll so that it's not just 273 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:37,039 a parade downhill and all their you know, paint roaming bigs that they just 274 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,159 only ever play are you know, stuck stuck out on an island? So 275 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,440 like do you think Brandon Miller is a wing? Would you do you think 276 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,120 there's a future where he's guarding? Just like if it's you go get John 277 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Morant tonight, or you go get Anthony Edwards, or you go get Paul 278 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:56,080 George, Like is he is he gonna move around the positional spectrum that enough 279 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,960 on defense? Or do we need like a more of a one two? 280 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:03,919 I would like to see them go get more of a one two so that 281 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,000 you can then put him on players who are more like sized, and so 282 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,440 it's you know, go like they they need more of I think like an 283 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,680 Isaaca Korro or a even a real, just true defense is like Douce McBride 284 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,839 for New York. They would go out and look at him or something. 285 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,200 I think that's what should be their top priority if they're looking to actually get 286 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:26,519 talent at this deadline, like go get Jaden Springer, Free Jaden Springer. 287 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:33,519 How about our next team up is the Chicago Bulls, and so look, 288 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:37,519 they look plucky without that. Did you skip the jazz? Did I say, 289 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:41,160 all right, I skip the jazz. I apologize, So we're onto 290 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,160 the jazz. Now you get to talk about the Bulls. Shout out to 291 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:51,000 you. They need wings, just real live, actual wings. And I 292 00:17:51,079 --> 00:17:53,640 know this could be another team based off how they've played. We could say, 293 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,680 oh it should be distressed Asset Central. I think they could do whatever 294 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,480 they want to. Where it's if there's a veteran who becomes available and you 295 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:04,319 want him. We saw it kind of with the John Collins trade. It 296 00:18:04,319 --> 00:18:07,920 wouldn't bug me if they did that again, should the right player if they 297 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,039 for instance, believed in like if Brandon Ingram became available, if I were 298 00:18:12,079 --> 00:18:15,559 them, I wouldn't go after him, but just as an example, go 299 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,720 get him or just get wings, like cheaper wings the teams are willing to 300 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,480 get rid of. Your team needs this because it'll help you defensively, and 301 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:26,480 it's just like it gives you some more lineup versatility, I think, and 302 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:29,920 the other thing they really could need. I'm very high on Kiante George moving 303 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,119 forward. He's a much better passer than he was advertised coming into the league. 304 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:34,799 A veteran for general though, would be nice, like someone who's a 305 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:37,759 better passer than Jordan Clarks. And then again that could be a situation. 306 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:40,839 You know what I have thought a lot about for this team, and I'll 307 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,400 mention him is another veteran type where it's if they become available, you have 308 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,200 the pick equity, and it's like, at this point you're not going to 309 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,359 be bad enough to have the best lottery odds anyway, de Jontay Murray on 310 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,519 this team, Like that could be if the Hawks decided to blow it up. 311 00:18:56,079 --> 00:18:59,400 But I would prioritize just getting any type of way, because who is 312 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:06,119 the just they get to wings on this team is either Simone Fontechio He Taylen 313 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,000 Horton Tucker or o Chai iv Baji. I think like who's the other. 314 00:19:08,279 --> 00:19:11,519 I mean, or if you want to say lowry market and if he plays 315 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:15,480 the wing minutes but he's not a wing. Yeah, it's amazing that how 316 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:18,920 many teams have we done that? Just the dearth of guys that are three 317 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,519 four so like you think, I mean, that's why we're all in New 318 00:19:21,599 --> 00:19:23,920 Orleans. They're all in New Orleans, Toronto. That that's why they're also 319 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,279 coveted. Uh So the Chicago Bulls, this might be a struggle to keep 320 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:30,880 it two minutes, or maybe it won't because it's fairly simple. Uh this 321 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,880 team needs to just acknowledge where they are and not get snowed by the fact 322 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,519 that they're five and two without zach Lavine. And maybe there is some justification 323 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:42,759 to them wanting win now pieces. I think that was Michael Scotto hoops I 324 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,200 reported that that's kind of their thinking if they're looking to trade guys, Like 325 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:51,960 that's just so backwards to me, and it's so like it's inexplicable given that 326 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,400 sort of thinking is what got them here, Like you trade, you trade 327 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,640 first for Vuovich, you trade another first in the sign and trade for DeRozan, 328 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,400 you give Levin two hundred nineteen, Like you're just you're just like gluing 329 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,160 yourself to the treadmill with with these kinds of moves, and then if you 330 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,160 don't, you have to do it at some point. And like trading Alice 331 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,279 Caruso for major value right now while he's shooting like forty six percent from three 332 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,799 and is one of the best defenders in the league. That's that's not a 333 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:19,720 guy you keep to like, you know, toggle pieces around him and oh, 334 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:22,759 we're gonna win forty two games, Like no, no, no, 335 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,240 you move everything, that's all it is. You need to acknowledge where you 336 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:30,400 are. That's the team's biggest need, and you can't make these win now 337 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,119 plays. While you're also saying, well, we're so far apart in extension 338 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,039 for Demarto Rosen who then might just leave over the summer if you don't move 339 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,960 him now. And what is the let's just say they want to go that 340 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:45,039 route and be a menacing team in the East. What is the player that 341 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:48,519 they're not the specific name, but is it they need a big man in 342 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:51,200 the because it's not Vouch. Is it that? And then it's like, 343 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,640 well, then what center is gonna help them do that? Or is it 344 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,960 like an actual wing because Patrick Williams has been really good. I think defensively 345 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,559 this year. He's not going to be your corner stone type of wing or 346 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:03,279 playmaking type of wing. I don't even is it. Do you actually meet? 347 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,880 Kobe Weis's been playing so well lately, and so I think between him, 348 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,359 Javon Carter, Alex Cruso to Marta Rozen, like your backcourt is fine. 349 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,480 So it's all right, we need threes, fours and fives, like 350 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:18,440 that's that's a lot of things to need. Yeah, that's like three of 351 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,400 the positions. There's only five. That's more than half the position. The 352 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,240 Rosan's kind of a wing forward at this point. But it's like, now 353 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:27,240 you need in their defense. We know how aggressive they can be and how 354 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,000 they're able to cover up for him. But I would say they're if they're 355 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:36,319 gonna go that route, they need a superstar center and it's okay, or 356 00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:38,680 a superstar like pure wing. Yeah, And you don't have the access to 357 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,559 get that player because, oh, you gave it up in the vouchin Tomart 358 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,200 Rosen trades. You used to, you used to, you had it. 359 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,000 You don't know, you don't know because you mortgaged it all for for Vouch 360 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,279 and DeRozan and Levine is your core. I'm gonna get our next team right, 361 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,640 it's the Atlanta Hawk. So I have one screw up and that's about 362 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,960 That's part for our course. With not doing the alphabet on the Atlanta, 363 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,279 part of me says that I want them to go the route of the Bulls. 364 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,519 They were just I think both of us were so much higher on them 365 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:10,200 than they've been this year. I do think they're kind of while they're cheap 366 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,599 as fuck, they're kind of married to winning now, and so it's well, 367 00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:15,599 you need to figure out a way to just improve your defense. You 368 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,839 forced turnovers, you don't fall a time, that's about all you do. 369 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,119 Well. Missing Jalen Johnson is obviously hurt. I think what they actually need 370 00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:30,160 is probably surprise surprise that three four type to where it's an upgrade over DeAndre 371 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:34,160 Hunter slash the you know, the Bogdanovich minutes, or if you don't want 372 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,279 to go to aj Griffin. At this point, I don't hate the Dejonte 373 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,839 Murray Trey Young back court quite frankly, but actually might need to give up 374 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:45,839 one of them to get the player that we're talking about. I would also 375 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,839 be okay, if they leaned and this is in the vein of them getting 376 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:52,440 Pascal Siakam, I'd be okay if they wanted to get a Combo Big, 377 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:59,359 but that Combo Big needs to be a demonstrative upgrade if you're gonna consolidate over 378 00:22:59,759 --> 00:23:03,640 the Appella. Jalen Johnson a Kung Wu just dynamic, and I don't know 379 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,960 if Siakam is that. And I actually think this is true for so many 380 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,160 teams, but like the name would be, I feel completely different about the 381 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,880 Hawks that they have ogn and Obi on this team and it doesn't cost you 382 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,440 Jalen Johnson to get him, or you have one of DeAndre Hunter or Jalen 383 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:22,839 Johnson left over. No, I think that's right. So I don't have 384 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,319 a lot to add there. It's just like it seemed like they assumed, 385 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,119 you know, the move we're gonna make is moving Capella because the Kong Wu's 386 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,839 got his extension and he's going to step into the center minutes and we'll get 387 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:33,359 something for Capella. That It's just like, I don't know, I don't 388 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,079 know if it's gonna happen now, Like that seemed like a good idea at 389 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:41,079 the time, but if that if that was your big chip to trade, 390 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,880 like, I'm not sure there's a robust market for Clint Capella at this point. 391 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,680 I have the Toronto Raptors next. This is another choose a direction team. 392 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,400 This is like the choose a direction team. Actually, I wish I 393 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,680 had a dime for every time we you know, use that exact phrase, 394 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,119 and the NBA media community at large has used choose a direction or pick a 395 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,200 direction to talking about the Raptors. I think if you want to be specific, 396 00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:04,559 like it'd be, I think you probably you know you're gonna build around 397 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:08,000 Scotty Barnes. I think that's not a surefire way to success. It looks 398 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:11,599 a lot rosier now than it did, you know this time last year. 399 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,680 Uh, he's a tricky guy to build around. I think just because of 400 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:21,599 his weird package of he's an oversized ball handler that is shooting better. But 401 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,000 I don't know if everybody totally believes in his shooting. So I don't know 402 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:26,480 what you do around that. But I think bringing og in and Obi back 403 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:30,519 is should be a higher priority than bringing Siakam back, just if only because 404 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,720 your value in flipping him at some point if it doesn't work, out is 405 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:37,519 going to be greater. But I think as I think about this team, 406 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:42,400 another real area of need to meet for me is let's get a primary ball 407 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:48,319 handling guard who is a massive three point shooting threat. And like Dennis Shuter 408 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:51,240 has played well this year. I think he's been, like low key one 409 00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:56,559 of the best value signings of the offseason. He's been totally serviceable, but 410 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:59,880 he but he's not I think if you're gonna have Barns as a real corner 411 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:03,880 stone, I want a guy who can also be a lead guard, doesn't 412 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,400 have to be big, can be point guard sized, but that is just 413 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,519 going to be an ace shooter just to space the flour around him and have 414 00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:12,160 like a real shot at second side action. Or if Barnes doesn't totally pan 415 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,000 out as an on ball guy all the time, you can just kind of 416 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,960 turn more of the playmaking duties over to this guy, so you know, 417 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,519 again, choose a direction. But then if you're once you get some more 418 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,000 specific I like a hot shooting guard for like whatever. The next iteration of 419 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,880 this team is around Barnes. I do think the Scotty Barnes leap at least 420 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,559 allows you to say, well, we can go either way. We can 421 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,720 double down on winning now if the roster is actually optimized around Scotty Barnes, 422 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:41,480 or it's time to actually optimize the rebuild around Scuard if it comes back to 423 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,119 picking a direction. But it They honestly do have options. It's just they've 424 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,279 yet to commit to one, which is meant the Golden State Warriors, who 425 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:53,519 now have Andrew Wiggins coming off the bench. As we record this in favor, 426 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:57,599 Brandon Pujenski got the start right over him. Actually don't know, I 427 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,599 have the game recording right now, but five, so he should start. 428 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,400 Andrew Wiggins is coming off the bench. Spoiler alert. Sorry to throw that 429 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,319 out there for you. They need athletics size on the wings, who doesn't 430 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:15,759 shrink the floor on offense, and who can also tackle some of the toughest 431 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:19,599 defensive assignments, basically anywhere at the one through four spots. That's a pretty 432 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,799 tall order. And they also kind of need someone who could generate their own 433 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:26,839 shots more consistently, especially if Chris Paul is going to go out in any 434 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,119 sort of trade. I think I'm at the point where it's not they're an 435 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,759 equal opportunity needs whatever star becomes available. They need a star trade because unless 436 00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:40,480 you're prepared to blow it up and rebuild, which they're not because Steph Curry 437 00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:42,200 is still one of the five best players alive, you need to figure out 438 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,839 a way to reopen this window. And I think they've already started making some 439 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,480 tough calls. We've seen it with some of their crunch time units. It 440 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,000 might just be time to say, hey, you know, Klay Thompson's kind 441 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,400 of interesting salary matching tools even though it's over forty million dollars, Or do 442 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,160 we look at moving Draymond Green because his contract's not terrible and he can still 443 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,599 be a transformative defender. They just need a star, And like, I'm 444 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,480 fine if it's a Pascal Siakam, I would say an og Ananobi or lowry 445 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,559 market and is kind of the worst type of player that they could go after 446 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,359 that would make the difference they need. They they just need so many different 447 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,799 things at the top because now their bench is so good. Their depth is 448 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:22,559 good. But if you start to fux with that depth where Okay Pods is 449 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,720 in the starting lineup, now there's just that trickle down to where you're exhausting 450 00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:29,119 some of your bench armory and if Andrew Wiggins is gonna continue to play so 451 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,920 poorly, that becomes an issue. So I think they they need top end 452 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,599 talent, is the best way to frame it, and it needs to come 453 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,920 in the form of probably a three to four type of person. But like 454 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,160 they they just need they need another star who's not, you know, a 455 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,759 point guard, because they have Steph Curry. Yeah, Mike Dunlevy said it 456 00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:49,200 was being asked about Draymond obviously, but you know it's gonna We're gonna the 457 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,279 next fifteen to twenty games are really gonna tell us kind of what we need 458 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:56,519 to do. I would argue the first twenty ish games told you what needs 459 00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,559 to happen here, and the first step is in fact, playing the guys 460 00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:02,160 that are playing well. So like, okay, it took a quarter of 461 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,440 the season, but we're starting to embrace that. I think that's a positive 462 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,720 step. But to your point, so that doesn't magically mean that Andrew Wiggins 463 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:12,160 and Klay Thompson and Kevon Looney, whose roles are most likely to be reduced, 464 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:17,039 we'll just start playing better. It may just mean that because you're elevating 465 00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:18,960 these bench guys who were playing well at the starting lineup here bench sucks now 466 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,279 because those guys just I mean, you'd think they do well against backups or 467 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,599 you know, perform better against backups, but that's not a given. Like 468 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,359 sometimes it's just you know, it's just not gonna change. So I think 469 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,279 we're gonna I don't know, there's such a difficult team to build trades for, 470 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,440 just specifically because well, the best players on the team so far have 471 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:40,759 been like the young guys you would trade for stars. So why are you 472 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:44,160 gonna trade all these guys that have actually been helpful and you can't trade the 473 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,039 vets that are constantly and have been playing poorly. It's a weird. It's 474 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:51,400 a real you know, they're rocking a hard place situation for sure. Did 475 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,759 you have something to add or should we go to the next team. Let's 476 00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:56,160 go to the next team. Gotta keep moving, all right, Phoenix is 477 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,880 next? Uh this So I think I might have talked about this last week 478 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:03,000 or I might've written it. I forget which. But the center spot to 479 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:07,160 me is is a is a trouble trouble spot just and use of nurkics like 480 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,559 he's he's a big body, he's physical, he's a good passer for you 481 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,640 know, in the middle of that offense. For me, I still think 482 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:21,200 it's just it's hard for me to imagine the postseason version of the Suns reaching 483 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,319 their highest level with him in the middle, and not just it's not just 484 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,000 a knock on him, but it's just the player type, like not a 485 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:32,920 good finisher, not super mobile defensive Like that's an under pretty understating it quite 486 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,000 a bit to say he's not super mobile, Like, he's not mobile defensively. 487 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:40,079 Is shooting more threes, but isn't you know, the high twenties person 488 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,480 whit like, he's not a three point shooter. So you know, to 489 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,599 say that, oh yeah, this this really good team needs a stretch five 490 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,920 that can defend the rim, and like, oh yeah, okay, So 491 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,079 it's kind of like saying everything the Superstar three, right, It's like, 492 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,079 well, yeah, that would be helpful, but you just described Chris Bouche. 493 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,240 Yeah, and then after I say that, you have to say Chris 494 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:03,160 Bouchet because that's how this podcast works. Uh. So that I think that's 495 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,160 one. The other The other issue is just maybe a real point guard just 496 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,119 once in a while would would be would be nice. I think that that 497 00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,519 you know, it's great that Devin Booker can do as much as he can 498 00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:15,920 on the ball, and Brad Bial I think can do quite a bit more 499 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,680 than most you know, quote unquote shooting guards can. But I think that's 500 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:22,440 just it's it's a glaring obvious need that we've been talking about since like training 501 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,039 camp, that they just just a point guard, just another point guard there 502 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,240 if you need one. The Cleveland Cavaliers they still need to get stretchier. 503 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,240 And it's not oh, they still need a wing. It's that can come 504 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,440 in the form of another big if you want them to play beside Mobley or 505 00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:41,880 Alan or like a like a smaller four, a Tory Craig type, a 506 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,000 name that I started to think about because he've be playing so well, would 507 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,720 be some oan fun techio for this team would look really good. And then 508 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:49,799 also, I'm not even trolling Chris Bruschet, Matt. He could play with 509 00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:53,119 Alan or Mobley in those minutes, and I think help Mobiley get to his 510 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,400 best offensive like because he'll take enough threes even if they're not going in. 511 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,200 They don't have a ton of trade, but they have a ton of salary 512 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,480 matching tools to get it done. That is such an awkward place to be 513 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,680 in though, to say, well, they need a stretchy front court player 514 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,559 when you have Jared Allen and Evan Mobley and the data. I think part 515 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,200 of this is, Look, Darius Garland's been uneven and they've been really banged 516 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,279 up. Evan Mobley's dealing with an injury right now, So the data on 517 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,000 that is all sorts of screwy, and so they do need more time, 518 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,039 which is why I'm not saying trade Jared Allen and get like a higher end 519 00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:29,640 four or someone to stash a stretcher you got to stash alongside Evan Mobley. 520 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,799 Not having that information still waiting on it, just as everyone starts to think 521 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,319 about Donovan Mitchell's future, it just gets a little awkward. And so I 522 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:41,480 do think there's some urgency for them to find this type of He might be 523 00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:44,720 your seventh or eighth guy, but you need this type of seventh or eighth 524 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:48,799 guy to maximize your postseason lineup diversification, is the way I would frame it. 525 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,799 Yeah, I think that's totally fair. The Jared Allen thing is tempting, 526 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,559 right, It's tempting to say, like that's the piece to move I'm 527 00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:57,960 we probably I probably said it. I don't want to loop you into that 528 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,720 one, but I don't think you need to go there. Cool, Yeah, 529 00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:06,279 let's let's shop to it. Yeah, I think but that need that 530 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,359 shouldn't be plan A. That should be We've tried some other things and like, 531 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,599 okay, it's clear now we need to you know, pull this very 532 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,799 quickly significant lever. What if New Orleans said we will give you Herb Jones 533 00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:22,039 for Jared Allen, there's other money that needs to be in there, would 534 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:28,440 you do it? I think you have to. I think it's kind of 535 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,039 like the Wemby and San Antonio thing, Like the optimal version of the Caves 536 00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:36,000 is evan mobiley playing center. So you're gonna have to just trust that that's 537 00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:39,039 the case. And then you add just an elite wing defender. That's I 538 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:44,319 mean, if Herb Jones, if Herb Jones is available, like that's just 539 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,160 to have him guard the guys that you don't want Mitchell and Garland to have 540 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,519 to guard. You gotta do that, right you gotta. Yeah, you 541 00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:53,160 have to. I wouldn't do it if I was New Orleans, especially Valanchie 542 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:59,319 And it's still yeah, Okay, lets feel better about saying the Calves have 543 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000 to if you wouldn't do it if you're New Orleans. Uh, speaking of 544 00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:05,720 we have the New Orleans Pelicans. This I mean it's a tale as old 545 00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:07,480 as time. A rim protector who can generate space, that that is what 546 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:12,200 this team needs. Jonas Valentiunas is not a floor spacer. The volume is 547 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,119 not there. Teams don't care if he's if he's open, and it's gonna 548 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:17,519 shoot it. For all the things that he's good at, one of them, 549 00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:22,160 the one that the Pelicans I think really need is spacing and or rim 550 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,759 protection. I guess the two things. Uh, he's not great at. 551 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,920 Uh screen setting. Also that's a big plus or that's a big I don't 552 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,240 know box. You need to check if we're talking about something the Pelicans really 553 00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:37,240 need. This is just still a hard team to build around. The centers 554 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,880 word again, we need a floor spacing center that can defend. Like that's 555 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,799 just you need a you need a button depressed that just says, how about 556 00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:51,240 Chris Bouchet And it's just a recording of your voice. I forget. I 557 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,480 don't know who my guy would be for that. If we have to think 558 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,359 I'm sure listeners can tell us a discord, but I think I think this 559 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,839 is from your notes too, so this is not going to be a surprise 560 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,559 to you. I agree with this. They should not be afraid to explore 561 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:08,519 options who might cost them CJ. McCollum or brandon Ingram because I don't I 562 00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:13,519 can't be shocking. I underlined it in the dock because I was like, 563 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,440 yes, damn, that is That is the way you should be thinking, 564 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,960 right, because if you're not gonna move Zion, then those two guys need 565 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,239 to be on the table. If you're trying to make meaningful changes, that's 566 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,079 just how it's gonna happen. I will say the two names that spring to 567 00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:28,440 mind. I do kind of like the idea of I disagree with you in 568 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,199 the sense that if you can get a really strong screen center who's a great 569 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:36,199 rim protector, it's okay. That's how they generate spaces with their pancakey screens. 570 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,039 I would prefer it to be a stretching big though. The two that 571 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:40,840 I thought of, and they're imperfect because one of them is not really a 572 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,920 big an the other one is not a rim protector. But Kelly OLYNNOK will 573 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,559 look really good on this team. And I still we brought this up with 574 00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:50,239 the oh g a Ob makes a lot of sense to the pulp because we're 575 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,320 just like, you have now two wing types in him and Herb Jones who 576 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,320 can just defend the five, maybe three if you want to include Dice and 577 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,480 Daniels in there, but two at least one of those guys in OG will 578 00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:01,280 stretch the I like. The more I think about it, the more I'm 579 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:08,480 like, yeah, do it have that for analysis? We are on and 580 00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:13,480 it's actually impressive that they're this high in the standings. The Brooklyn Nets. 581 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,800 I wouldn't have predicted that this is what I said they would have needed entering 582 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,480 the season. They need some perimeter defensive juice. They're giving up a lot 583 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,880 of wide open threes. I know some of it's by design and there are 584 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,599 worse three point defenses out there, but we've seen a lot of instances where 585 00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:31,480 they're giving up too many good looks in certain games, or all that space 586 00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:36,360 is being used to then exploit them. And part of this is Ben Simmons 587 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,719 is dealing with his back stuff. I think we've seen McHale Briy have been 588 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,760 better defensively for them this year. He is doing probably a little He is 589 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,280 doing a little bit less on offense. That probably helps than he was last 590 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,320 year. Dorrian Finney Smith looks like he's a step slower maybe two on that 591 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,440 end of the floor. Royce O'Neil has been fine for the most part. 592 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:57,119 I don't know what the player is because they're in such a weird timeline. 593 00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:59,440 But they have a bunch of picks they could give up. They have some 594 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,559 salary man tools they could use. I do think, look some of this 595 00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:05,039 it doesn't need to be a big name. It can if they want, 596 00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:07,719 if they're committed to this core. Nick Claxton has not been healthy. He's 597 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,519 not as you and I both love his switchability. That's not been his strong 598 00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,519 suit this year. It's just like the mobility just isn't there like it was. 599 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,239 As he gets healthier. Maybe you can look at this and say, 600 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,559 oh, you don't need to target like a super big name because you have 601 00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:24,320 him on the back line, or him who can step out and it's oh, 602 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,239 let's go get a like I don't know Alex Carusa would be fun on 603 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,079 this team, or a Manuel quickly because they also do kind of need a 604 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:35,280 playmaker of the future when you look at this roster where it's all right, 605 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,760 Spencer didn't way he's expiring. You have Dennis Smith Junior or you have McHale 606 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,480 Bridges. You have enough to get you by, but you could use another 607 00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:45,960 playmaker so they can straddle both lines. But I think they just need some 608 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,840 perimeter pressure that would it'd be nice. Yes, So they came in the 609 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,960 form of some additional playmaking. Yeah, I just I have to talk about 610 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,239 this because I just wrote about it and did the research for it. Because 611 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,559 and you hit on it right off the bat. Like the fact that we're 612 00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:01,800 talking about like a perimeter body for this team as in need is so wild 613 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,039 to me. And the thing that that I was writing about is how in 614 00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:09,360 the world is a team with this much length on the wing and these this 615 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:15,079 many theoretically switchable guys and disruptive guys. You know Dennis Smith Junior, You 616 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,840 know guys that are in the league for defense, Ben's you know Ben Simmons. 617 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,760 Cam Johnson even last year had a steel rate with Brooklyn in the ninety 618 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,320 fifth percent offer his position. The nets are twenty ninth in steals, twenty 619 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,920 fourth in deflections, twenty second and loose balls recovered in dead last in opponent 620 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:35,880 turnover percentage. How does this roster not play a chaotic, disruptive brand of 621 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,239 defense. I don't. I like, it doesn't check out. It's one 622 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,400 of the biggest mysteries to me in the league. So yes, even if 623 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,199 it's counterintuitive, what you're suggesting is in fact what the numbers say. The 624 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,519 Brooklyn Net's need, which is just like, I'm not going to get over 625 00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:51,119 that. That's a wild thing. Lle Clippers are next. This is they 626 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:54,159 need an upgrade. I think for certain matchups on I Visa Zubac, like 627 00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:58,280 that guy should have or could have been PJ. Tucker, but he's not 628 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,840 playing, and it seems like, go PJ Tucker. Yeaheah five yeah, 629 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,280 exactly five years ago. However many years ago PJ Tucker. So he looks 630 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,800 like he's probably on the way out. It's I mean, the signs are 631 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,239 pointing that way. At the very least. He's not playing, so it's 632 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,880 not gonna be him. And you don't have this crazy collection of you know, 633 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,239 let's find a Morris and throw him out there. Robert Covington or Batoom 634 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,679 can be you know, a weird lineup center, Like they just don't have 635 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,960 those guys. So someone that's a little more matchup proof, someone that may 636 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,320 be able to space the floor, hit a corner three, that kind of 637 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,239 thing. Because you know, really quietly, the Clippers have been like pretty 638 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,360 darn good after that rough like oh and four or oh and five post James 639 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,079 Harden trade. Start at I think it was like they've won nine to twelve. 640 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:43,280 I assume they're beating the Warriors, or an hour and a half into 641 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,400 the Warriors game, I haven't watched it all. I assume they're beating the 642 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,199 pants off the Warriors, and if they haven't, they'll come back from twenty 643 00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:51,480 plus points down and win, because that's how the Warriors operate now. But 644 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:52,840 yeah, that that's a pretty straightforward one for me. Do you have anything 645 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,760 to add to the Clippers. No, they do have the assets to get 646 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,559 it done, though. They still trade a first round pick, and they 647 00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:02,920 have some interesting salary match tools that they can play. Our next team is 648 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:07,519 the New York knicker Bockers. They need I think some people will want to 649 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,599 see them get a big but they just signed Todd Gibson, so they're straight 650 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,679 for the next decade. He's back I'm just you're not gonna replace some Mitchell 651 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,559 Robinson did for you. Anyway. Isaiah Hartenstein's one of the best backup gigs 652 00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:21,119 in the game. So you have him, you have Jerko Simms, You're 653 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:24,239 fine. They need it doesn't need to be a capslock star. They just 654 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,119 need a bigger wing, a properly sized wing who doesn't shrink the floor, 655 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,079 who also doesn't need the ball. I'm describing basically o g Anonobi but like 656 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,039 you want this when you're kind of doing Oh Dante DiVincenzo and Josh Hart and 657 00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,639 you look at some of the assignments they're going up against their undersized even Quentin 658 00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:44,079 Grimes, RJ. Barrett's kind of properly sized, but is he necessarily strong 659 00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:46,639 enough for good enough defensively to hold up in those matchups. That is the 660 00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:50,679 player they need. It is also the player that so many other teams would 661 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,280 kill for. But that is the archetype of player that they need. And 662 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,360 it doesn't need to be a star because they are so deep. I do 663 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,320 think I'll say, relative to this season, at least, Julius Randall's got 664 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,440 to be one of the most underrated players in basketball or underappreciate at this point. 665 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,760 The highs are incredibly high, the lowers are incredibly lows, and you 666 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,000 understand what he is, but he is a good basketball player and doesn't get 667 00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:14,639 talked about in the same vein, and we frame it as he's more valuable 668 00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:16,719 to the Knicks than any other team like that somehow an insult. It's not. 669 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,719 He's made to all UNBA teams. It's not an insult. And so 670 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,599 because you have him and Jalen Brunton and just this depth, you need a 671 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,599 i'll call it a power wing six seven or taller that is going to be 672 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,599 defending the toughest perimeter to sidements. Yeah, I'm with that. Has there 673 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:36,880 been a more confounding, like up and down player than Julius Randall, because 674 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,679 you're right about how he's playing right now. But it's just I just can't 675 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:44,480 get over how his perception, at least for me, as like ebbed and 676 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,000 flowed over the years. Kind of well, okay, Houston Rockets are next. 677 00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:52,599 I actually like it's really encouraging that there's not like a glaring need that 678 00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:54,360 jumps out for the Rockets, Like you really could make the case that like 679 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,159 they're pretty good shape most places. I do think the backup big spot is 680 00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:05,639 one that could use some improvement because kind of could you did you press the 681 00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:08,679 button or was that actually you? Uh? Because Jock Landale on that weird 682 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,440 contract where he gets eight million a year except for the three years where he 683 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,159 doesn't after this one because it's not guaranteed, he's he's not the answer at 684 00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:20,320 backup center. It doesn't seem like he's playing less and less basically out of 685 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,000 the rotation. So it's like, is Jeff Green your backup center? Are 686 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,480 you gonna use jashn Tate there? Uh? Boban is on this roster, 687 00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:30,960 he does not play, So you could get to the Jabari Smith Junior minutes 688 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,400 at the five, which I think we both are kind of excited about and 689 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,599 think could really work. You know, I'm with you, I'm excited, 690 00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:38,679 you know, I just ye're right as I agree, but just as like 691 00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:44,280 the theory of that is sound to me, like if he continues to bulk 692 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,239 up and continues to just I mean, he's gotten so much better this year 693 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,280 and really was coming on at the end of last year, like he's You're 694 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,760 not gonna we will not be talking about Jabari Smith junior as a bus, 695 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:58,320 which was like absolutely the case. What halfway through last year, probably maybe 696 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,719 just a lesson and stop trying to judge rookies like three months into their careers. 697 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,880 But so if he's gonna be at play some five, maybe you go, 698 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,840 you know, a more of a playmaking oriented like bigger forward, you 699 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,519 know, like Tate and Tari Easton I think we both love, but they're 700 00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,400 not you know, those guys are out there to like bang around and cause 701 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,320 trouble and not you know, facilitate or score self sufficiently. So it depends 702 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,519 on kind of which way you want to go. If you think Jabari is 703 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:24,440 your backup center, then you look at the bigger forward or wing. And 704 00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:28,000 if you don't think that's the case, at least for now, then you 705 00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:34,079 just got to go find find your Chris Bouchet I guess thank you for including 706 00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:39,239 that necessary disclaimer. The Miami Heat, there's this obsession and it's not unfounded, 707 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,599 but there is this obsession with them going out and finding the next shot 708 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:50,000 creator from scratch shot creator and maker. They could absolutely use that, like 709 00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:52,920 they need to get bigger on the front line, like next to bam Adebayo 710 00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:58,239 and also independent of bam Adebayo and get the lineups where oh, okay, 711 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,599 like we you know the chem love roster spot. Let's get someone who can 712 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:06,519 actually play and defend for us. I do like Kayla Martin. Hopefully as 713 00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:09,599 he gets healthier, that's someone who could fill that role in sort of miniature, 714 00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:13,000 but you would like them to be properly sized. It could be an 715 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,079 og An Andobi type, but it could be a you want more offense, 716 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:19,119 I do think out of that spot, so it's sort of just playmaking four. 717 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,320 Maybe could step up to the five end points, but you could also 718 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,760 move them about the three. I'm describing a very specific player who might not 719 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,320 exist, they would be. They're a team that I think if they went 720 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,760 all in on like a Larry marketIn, if Utah was like, hey, 721 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,559 we don't want to pay him, he's gonna be extension eligible soon. That 722 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,519 is the type of player I think they need more than this. Zach Lavine, 723 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,760 Damian Lillard ilk ye. If Damian Lillard was available again, I think 724 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,039 he'd been a great fit on this roster. But they don't need You have 725 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,119 Jimmy Butler. Bam has made the leap. I know people like the shit 726 00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:51,119 on Tyler heroes efficiency, but like he is still someone who can take, 727 00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,360 make and generate difficult shots. You have Kyle Lowry on the roster for now, 728 00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:59,599 Dugan Robinson dribbles like I mean, so I'd like to see them shore 729 00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:01,960 up sort of the I'll call it the front line spot next to Bam because 730 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,559 I hate talking in positions exclusively. Yeah, the Heat game tonight, Duncan 731 00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,400 Robinson obviously upfaked somebody and put it on the floor and got fouled. And 732 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,280 the commentators that were some of my favorite commentators in the league, and they're 733 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,920 right, but this is where we are with Duncan Robinson. They said, 734 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,920 you think he's gonna do one thing and then he hits you with something else, 735 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,119 and it's like, what on earth has happened that Duncan Robinson is now 736 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,280 this like paragon of offensive versatility where you can't just run him off the line, 737 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,159 and it's fine, what a what a? What a leap in skill 738 00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:36,039 set by him. Sacramento Kings are next no real way to transition from Duncan 739 00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:37,440 Robinson other than to say he's not a good defender, I guess, and 740 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,840 the Sacramento Kings need defenders at every position except for Keegan Murray. There. 741 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,119 I saw an EPM chart today as going around on Twitter, just charting his 742 00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:52,440 growth in defensive estimated plus minus, and it's just like basically, you know, 743 00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,199 there's peaks and valleys in it, but it's just headed hard up to 744 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,519 the right, Like he's just Keegan Murray is a really good defensive wing slash 745 00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:01,559 forward I what you want to call him other than him obviously, the Kings 746 00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:06,039 are you know, kind of bereft of great defenders at several positions. So 747 00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:09,079 get the combo forward, get the big wing, somebody that can guard, 748 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,440 you know, the shooting guard that Kevin Herder can't handle, or the power 749 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,639 forward the Harrison Bards can't handle. You know, it's just like it's not 750 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,280 a mystery if you you can't. Now, you could mess with the center 751 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,079 spot, I guess, and try to find more rim protection or whatever. 752 00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:29,159 But so you're committed to Sabonis, you could say, Chris Bouche, yeah, 753 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,159 or you might be able to plan with Sabonus I don't know, uh, 754 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,880 but you're you can't really mess with that position because Sabonis is a tricky 755 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,480 guy to fit around. He definitely, you know, the Pacers spent a 756 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,000 few years figuring out like even with a Miles Turner, who some would say 757 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,519 is similar to Chris Bouchet and several respects, couldn't work with Sabonis upfront as 758 00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:50,559 a combo. So if you're gonna, if you're gonna improve this team's defense, 759 00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:52,400 it's got to be in the you know, the two, three, 760 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,440 four spots. And that's just that's been the case for a while now. 761 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,199 They are another og Annobe team. But I actually think if you had to 762 00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:01,280 sing about one team or og Annobi makes them a capslock contender after the fact, 763 00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:06,119 and they're not already a contender, I think it's probably the Kings or 764 00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,559 the Pelicans. Yeah, the Kings are on the very shortest of lists for 765 00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:13,079 that particular distinction. I think, thanks right. You know who would actually 766 00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,119 come close to being on that list if they got Ojananobe. The Indiana Pacers, 767 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:19,119 who are next up. How that for a motherfucking transition? Really good? 768 00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,239 So they need I know they've been linked to Pascal Siakam, and I'm 769 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,800 fine with that. I don't know if you necessarily want someone as ball dominant 770 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,119 when you have Tyre's Haliburton on your team. I do assume though, that 771 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,360 Bennan mcmathrin leaves as part of that, and so does jars Walker, and 772 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,480 so that takes care of some of the functional overlap, and then you can 773 00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:39,559 have Siakam run a bunch of bench units. I'm fine with that, but 774 00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:44,119 I do think it needs to be someone who can handle more of the top 775 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,880 down defensive responsibilities, where when you look at the breadth of assignments that aaron 776 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:53,280 Ne Smith, Bruce Brown, Andrew Nemhart even has to cover, you want 777 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,039 someone who's more life sized against the players that they're covering. And so that's 778 00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:00,840 where Ojananobe sort of comes into play. There. They have the assets to 779 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,039 go out. I mentioned Ben mcmathern, they have Jaris Walker, they have 780 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,800 all their own first round picks, so like they can find like they can 781 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,800 cobble together an offer. It's who's the right player, because neither of us 782 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,239 will mention o g Annobi till we're blue in the face, but he's I 783 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,800 really just don't think he's gonna be available. I still mentioned him because let's 784 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,280 see what teams give up for him. A Mattis Thiball, would that do 785 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,960 it for you? In the other name I'm only going to mention him because 786 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:29,960 he's topical. This would be a really I think good functionally Draymond Green team. 787 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:34,519 I mean he would solve I wouldn't seem has enough defensive problems that there 788 00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:37,039 are so many that he might not even he might not be able to solve 789 00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,000 them all. But like one thing he does really well that never gets talked 790 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,199 about is he if he's playing center, he gets the ball up the floor 791 00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,480 in a hurry, which is like a perfect pacers thing that is that is 792 00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:49,800 like you would not need to have to coach You would not need to coach 793 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,440 him up to get the ball out of the net and move immediately on Indiana. 794 00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:55,400 That's an interesting one. Uh, too bad the Warriors, You're never 795 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,920 going to trade him. They'll just I don't know, save all the money 796 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,000 while he suspended and take that luxury cap production. Uh. The Lakers are 797 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:07,719 next. I think this team's defense, it's been it's been demonstrated several times, 798 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,719 like they can hit a defensive level with a d and Lebron playing really 799 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,119 well that is championship caliber. Like they just they have the size. Davis 800 00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:21,079 can be utterly dominant against almost any team. If he's right, So this 801 00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:23,079 is a this is a team that needs shooting, needs offense. Is this 802 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,679 just asch Is this just the zach Lavine team because there was a report that 803 00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,559 that's where he wants to be. Like, I don't know that zach Lavine 804 00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,639 is a great fit anywhere, but someone that could prop prop up second well 805 00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:37,960 for the money that I don't know that that like who where? What team? 806 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,199 What team? Says zach Lavine solves all our problems and he's worth the 807 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,000 money all our problems. I think the Lakers come closer even, That's what 808 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,480 I'm saying. And so and so, if you want someone to help you 809 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:58,159 survive when you know the help the offense, specifically survive when Lebron's not playing 810 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,440 or misses time, like get second buckets like Chris Bousche won first of all. 811 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:07,199 Chris Bouchet uh second is on his number of mentions in this pod, 812 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,239 Simone Fantakio uh at third, zach Lavine. If you can't get those guys, 813 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,320 you have to go zach Levine. Also, like maybe just hold on 814 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:20,239 to Malik Beasley, who's shooting forty five percent from his ass off for the 815 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,840 moment, he's good against some of the toughest assignments, but like he's actually 816 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,519 gotten a lot better guarding up. Yeah, no, I I mean like 817 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,320 he's another guy. Hold on, how this isn't stat padding. How old 818 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,840 do you think Malik Beasley is? Oh don't Uh he is twenty seven years 819 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,800 old. It's correct. He just turned twenty seven last month. Wow, 820 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:44,280 he's like, why'd you I just don't understand how he was able to get 821 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,840 away and then couldn't sign for more than he signed for with Milwaukee. But 822 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:51,199 yeah, the Lakers need shooting, they need offensive production, particularly if Lebron's 823 00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,679 gonna eventually miss time they have. There's been multiple point that said they prefer 824 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,159 Alex Caruso to Zach Lavine in part because of the cost, and he is 825 00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:01,480 the one that got away. But if they do see them sess with not 826 00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:07,119 compromising the defense, and Danzelo Russell has been let's use the word serviceable, 827 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:09,559 but he's probably been better than that defensively this year, which is a matter 828 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,760 surprise. And so it's like do they aim then smaller where it's like Bojan 829 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,039 Bogdanovitch. You might have already mentioned him and the name that because I mentioned 830 00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:21,039 him on another team. Yo, who can actually make some sense if you 831 00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:24,719 believe that he can fit offensively on this team. De Jon De Murray makes 832 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,360 a lot of sense if they don't want to compromise the defense, and the 833 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,360 way he's been playing offensively this year, you would way rather have Murray than 834 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:37,920 Levine, right, Like, yeah, he's a better fit too. I 835 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,920 think that's right. Uh, the Denver Nuggets have Look, they're not gonna 836 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,880 make a big trade because when you look at salary matching tools, Reggie Jackson 837 00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:51,559 at five million dollars is the most expensive player that I would think they're willing 838 00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:52,960 to move, and he's been so good for them that it's well, then 839 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,280 we need a backup point guard because Jalen Pickett's not ready and like that's not 840 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,920 going to be a Julian Strather or Peyton wat and like that's not going to 841 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,719 be their bag. So you have to kind of surf and be like, 842 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,320 well, can we get the player who Zeke Naje we said he was going 843 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,199 to be like for the past twelve years and he hasn't been. I think 844 00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:15,400 there's not a huge urgency to do it because they quietly stretch eight deep because 845 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,480 of the way that Reggie Jackson has been playing, Christian Brown is perked up, 846 00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:21,400 and now Julian Strawther. I know that we were all including Calvin Booth 847 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440 high on Peyton Watson, but holy Julian there. But I would like to 848 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,599 see them. They need to get another type of big in there. It 849 00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:30,760 can also be a little bit bigger of a wing. I just don't know 850 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,880 the price range that they're working with, you know, feasibly or because of 851 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,199 who they're going to be sending out in the trades. You're looking at a 852 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,840 lot of minimum guys. A player I thought about just because he's approaching free 853 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,400 agency and this team is headed nowhere at the moment, Xavier Tillman would be 854 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,000 semi interesting for them, and the other one is just like he doesn't play 855 00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:52,960 enough in San Antonio. But like Julian Champenni would be great for this roster, 856 00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:55,159 but he's not really a big man. Yeah, it takes us as 857 00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:00,480 Dallas Mavericks. They so if you play with Luca, you're gonna get open 858 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:06,760 threes. The key for Dallas is those shooters need to be guys that the 859 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,760 defense is like uncomfortable with getting open threes, and those guys have to be 860 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,679 able to guard. So like Derek Jones Junior has been I mean really good 861 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,760 for you know, relative about as well as he's ever played, short of 862 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,880 like when he was at the top of the zone defense in Miami and we're 863 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,679 just like, who is this guy? This is incredible. He's been good. 864 00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:25,840 He's been making shots. Dante Xem is back and has had a couple 865 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:32,199 like awesome twenty plus point games in a row, and un nine from three 866 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,719 we're talking about Dante xam was seven of nine from three in his most recent 867 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:42,239 game. So those guys have kind of given Dallas what I'm talking about. 868 00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:45,800 You know, guys that can guard that are gonna be you know, actual 869 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:52,760 spacers on offense. I guess this is just more of a some skepticism that 870 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,840 like that will be the case in April or or you know, that that 871 00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:01,599 those guys will be this threatening and this good offensively, because I think defensively 872 00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:05,519 we sort of like both of those guys are kind of known commodities. I 873 00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:08,559 think XM and Derek Jones, but neither of them are like strikes fear in 874 00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:14,559 the heart of the opposition shooters and like maybe if they continue as they've been 875 00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,239 shooting, but like it's not likely. So and it just they won't be 876 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,320 guarded in the playoffs till they'll need to go through the playoffs and knock down 877 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,239 those threes before teams, right, Like, imagine the scenario where Dallas wins 878 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:29,679 a playoff game because XHEM or a series because XAM goes like five of seven 879 00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:31,960 three times, you know, and it's just not gonna happen. Teams are 880 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,320 gonna be happy to let that be the way they lose. They'll be like, 881 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,679 you know what, Yeah, our process was good, just tough result, 882 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,840 Like that's that's what it'll be. That'll be said, Uh, you've 883 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,320 got the thundernext. Yeah. I have a lot to say on them, 884 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:50,599 so strapping Grant ready. They need some heft or bounce on the front line 885 00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:54,079 to play behind and with chet Holmgren shout out to I forget the Discord user. 886 00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:57,920 I'm also very behind on my Discord messages. I was explaining to Grant 887 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,320 the week that I have had it was busy, even by my standers. 888 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,239 I'm not complaining, but I'm just behind on everything. There are a bunch 889 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,280 of names you could throw out there. They mentioned John Collins. That'd be 890 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,639 fairly interesting. Here you can just get whatever heft on the front line, 891 00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:14,880 but I will. While I do still think that's probably their biggest need, 892 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,679 I'm at the point where I might be ready to say this is their biggest 893 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,320 need. They need another ball handler who has I wrote in the notes side 894 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,400 to side, jiggle and joggle in the half court because that's not Jalen Williams's 895 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,079 game like kind of going up against set defenses and operating methodically, which is 896 00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:32,599 fine. I know he's the best player of all time, brand right, 897 00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:37,000 you have to say that first of all. But Josh Giddy is so bad 898 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,559 now. And someone pointing this out to me on YouTube, and I started 899 00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:44,199 to notice it in that overtime game against the Warriors. His higher stakes minutes 900 00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:46,159 are down. You and I have talked about previously how they didn't want him 901 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,000 leading lineups by himself. They were more inclined to go with Jay Dubb for 902 00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:53,719 that. When you get to the playoffs, you might need another outside in 903 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,079 ball handler in the half court than Shay Gilders Alexander. So what I'm basically 904 00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:01,159 saying is you need to go and say we're not moving home Grin, Shaye 905 00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:05,679 Gibbes Alexander or j Dubb. What is it gonna take to get Stephen Curry 906 00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:07,239 Golden State. We'll give you everything else, all the picks, but no, 907 00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:09,199 in seriously, they need to. I think they're at the point where 908 00:55:09,199 --> 00:55:13,480 they probably need to consider getting that type of player. I don't know who 909 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,960 it is who becomes available. They're not a Zacclavine team. For me, 910 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,599 That's not what I'm saying. It's just something that's in the back of my 911 00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:22,239 mind because there's the obviously, which is the front court hefter bounce or whatever. 912 00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:27,199 But then there's that just the Josh Giddy stuff. That's I think it's 913 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,800 time. I'm there. Frankly, I'm there. I don't know if everybody 914 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,440 else is there, though I think I'm with you. I think that's right. 915 00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:35,400 Like it's just we've I'm sure we've talked about that whom I talked about 916 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,159 this last week, the Giddy fit, Like if he's not the guy you 917 00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:40,599 want on the ball as the second unit leader at the very least, then 918 00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:45,159 like, what where's the value add you know, it's just he's not spacing 919 00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:46,719 the floor, he's not a good defender. It's it's not that complicated. 920 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,480 Got the sixers next? This is another team that I've been thinking a lot 921 00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:54,000 about lately, and it's more in like a big picture sense of like, 922 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,039 man, they kind of played it right where they got all these expirings and 923 00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:04,000 picks for hard and so now they can should and I don't think the perfect 924 00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:07,599 trade fit is out there really for them, but should one emerge in the 925 00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:09,559 next two months, you know, December fifteenth is one caught one sort of 926 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:15,840 you know benchmarbitrary cut off, the arbitrary cutoff where some more guys that everybody 927 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,199 should have known we're gonna be available become available. So it's not like a 928 00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:21,519 big thing, but you know, the market gets a little, you know, 929 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,679 more flush with talent, and then as you get closer to the deadline, 930 00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:28,840 maybe that person will emerge. They don't have to trade for like a 931 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,880 third star or whatever. There's not one on the market right now. They 932 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,360 could and I think they're obviously like gonna have their antenna out for that for 933 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,360 sure, but then they don't want to. It's a tricky needle to thread 934 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,039 because it's like, well, we're prioritizing twenty twenty four cap space, so 935 00:56:43,159 --> 00:56:45,880 the guy we get either has to not take up so much that it forecloses 936 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,079 on a big signing and he can't be expiring because what's the point of that 937 00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:52,360 we give up all these assets for a guy that just walks like or that 938 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,000 we could have signed ourselves in free like if they got again, Yeah, 939 00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:00,599 you do it, but the calculus of what we're giving up and we could 940 00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:01,599 have just signed him once he hit the open mark, right, And so 941 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,840 my conclusion is sort of that like if there's a trade out there for them, 942 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,559 it's not there yet, maybe it will be, and should that happen, 943 00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:14,280 I think another perimeter ball like ball handler slash shot creator would would be 944 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,599 good to take the load off Tyre's Maxi and just make things, you know, 945 00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:20,400 get Joel Embiid another couple shots, whether it's in pick and roll, 946 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,840 whether it's drive and dump off like that kind of thing. I think that's 947 00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:27,800 something you might want to focus on. I guess if you wanted to get 948 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,440 like really picky, you could just say, like, I don't know, 949 00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:35,079 a more athletic version of Tobias Harris, like someone that's really going to tear 950 00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,000 the rim down, like that you're driving from the corner, from the wing 951 00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,480 or whatever. But we've said big wing for like everybody. So I think 952 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,960 it's that that I guess. I guess you'd say second perimeter shot creator, 953 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,199 but like third shot creator if you're counting in bed there with MAXI, the 954 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,480 Orlando Magic entering play on December fourteenth is the third seed in the East. 955 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:58,199 How about that? How about that? Fucking incredible they need? Their need 956 00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:00,800 has changed because I think we would have and I still would. Look, 957 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,440 you've dealt with the bulls before. If the price drops low enough, why 958 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,880 not try and swindle them in a Jack Jack Levine, a Zach Lvine trade, 959 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,960 I'd be open to it. They no longer need someone on that scale. 960 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,960 I think the offense has been a little bit friskier lately enough to say 961 00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:17,480 without Wendell Carter Junior, Markel Folts, I don't know if they're actually benefiting 962 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,360 a little bit from trying to find themselves without faults. But their defense is 963 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,880 hell fire on peds. And if you can just go and get someone who 964 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,159 you mentioned this with Dallas not just hits threes, but force his defenses to 965 00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:35,840 guard them from three and bonus points if they can work off the dribble as 966 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,639 well. And so rather than saying they need an all star caliber score at 967 00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:45,079 the two or the three or the one. It's what about Anthony Simon's for 968 00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:46,960 this team? What about they can even go the distressed asset route where it's 969 00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:51,320 defenses are still going to react to Gary Trent Junior. They wouldn't be my 970 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,880 favorite. You know, if I made a top whatever big board list of 971 00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:57,679 Orlando Magic targets, I don't think he would end up on it. But 972 00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:01,199 like, that's the you know, a Malcolm Brock even someone on Twitter mentioned 973 00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:04,599 to me, and I thought about I was like that, but Cory Kissbert, 974 00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:07,039 with the season he's having, that might work. Like yeah, so 975 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:09,440 they need that type of player, and it's I don't know what their ceiling 976 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,119 becomes at that type of player, but if you're waiting for them to drop 977 00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:15,760 off and they go and acchore someone who opens up the half court for their 978 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,320 drivers, this team becomes an even bigger problem for the rest of the league. 979 00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:22,920 Yeah. Uh, Tyler hero I don't know. I'm just talking about 980 00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:27,440 you said, Uh, you mentioned Simons, and so I immediately thought, 981 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,000 uh, Maxi hero Pool because we have to think of those four guys altogether. 982 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,960 Pool. That is my hot take. Uh. The Milwaukee Bucks are 983 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,880 next I mean, we talked about Malik Beasley is defending much better than anyone 984 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,719 could have expected, but that is still insufficient I think for a playoff, 985 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,280 uh, you know, guy who's gonna have to guard the people that Lillard 986 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,199 can't and probably Middleton can't. So I don't know how you do it. 987 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,800 They're asset poor guys that you might think about trading Pat Conninson who's been hurt, 988 00:59:55,239 --> 01:00:00,000 or marj On Bouchamp or Bobby Portis. They kind of like all those 989 01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,079 guys still matter enough to where you wouldn't just you know, give him a 990 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,280 tortis. Well. I think the Bucks think Bobby Portis matters a lot, 991 01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:10,079 and I I would of the guys we mentioned, I would trade Portis first, 992 01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:14,800 and but I don't know that his value is necessarily highest around the league. 993 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,639 He's like a you know, mostly offense, undersized five. I'm not 994 01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:22,239 sure what that really gets you, but yeah, this is this was the 995 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,000 glaring need from from the jump when they, uh, you know, made 996 01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:29,559 the Lillard trade. It's just like, you gotta have the guy that's gonna 997 01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:31,199 guard the other team's best wing. They don't. They don't have that guy 998 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,320 that's that's the maybe the most glaring need in the league in terms of like 999 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,880 real high level problems, and I see Bucks has the last ding after Alice 1000 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,800 Caruso. If this was the offseason, he was still in Chicago headed in 1001 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,480 the last year of his deal. Bochamp and content maybe and seconds maybe get 1002 01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:49,920 you him. Probably not. I think you still get a course. You 1003 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,280 could look at other Bulls guards though reacquired Javon Carter. That would help them, 1004 01:00:54,719 --> 01:00:58,519 or I would as soon move. I think taking a flyer on him 1005 01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:02,960 would be fine as well. The next team up is the Minnesota Timberwolves. 1006 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,559 Man just absolutely on fire. They technically don't need a whole bunch unless you 1007 01:01:07,639 --> 01:01:12,199 actually don't believe in their dual big setup for the playoffs. I think that 1008 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,199 skews a little strong, but I do think it's fair to be curious. 1009 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,880 Okay, when we're going across a best of seven series, how our team's 1010 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,719 gonna attack this on a night to night basis? Do we have a way 1011 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,559 to get to different lineups? They're real issue though, because they just even 1012 01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:28,039 if you have to change up the way you're running, they have a huge 1013 01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,920 margin for error on the defensive end. When you look at the personnel they 1014 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,039 have coming off the bench with Kyle Anderson, Troy Brown Junior, Nikhil Alexander 1015 01:01:35,079 --> 01:01:37,639 Walker, that's your guy. That's your Chris Bouchet, by the way, 1016 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,800 is not Yeah, that's that's who. I need the button for him. 1017 01:01:40,119 --> 01:01:45,880 We need the naw buttonh They need, I think someone who's gonna pump up 1018 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,360 their three point volume because Karl Anthony Towns, I know he's doing other stuff, 1019 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,519 he's driving, but like he should be taking like twenty three point attempts 1020 01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:53,800 for thirty six minutes and just isn't. And so you need someone to pump 1021 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,679 up your three point volume. And I think it'd be nice because outside of 1022 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,840 Kyley and Anthony Edwards, you just don't have a bankable floor general type, 1023 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,519 someone who's gonna pass. Can you acquire that type of guard? You have 1024 01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:07,880 shake Milton's salary at five million? You could step like you can even if 1025 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,599 you wanted to move Troy Brown or you can move North. The team's interested. 1026 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,119 They would be another good Javon Carter team, even though he's not the 1027 01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:16,320 best passer, will certainly space the floor and defend his his ass off. 1028 01:02:17,199 --> 01:02:22,239 So if they can get that guy, they might have the most complete playoff 1029 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,880 rotation one through eight, one through nine, and that's what I think they 1030 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,760 should be targeting. Again, it's tough because of how asset poor they are, 1031 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,039 but someone like Davon Carter should not cost you. You can get to 1032 01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:36,599 the salary pretty easily, and I don't think it's gonna cost you an arm 1033 01:02:36,639 --> 01:02:39,079 and a leg from there. And then another option to consider is maybe, 1034 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,800 like with Alex Burk's work for this team, he'd be pretty good, or 1035 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,000 Delon Wright if you trust his offense enough. But those are the types of 1036 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,320 players. Yeah, I think if all you're really trying to do is upgrade, 1037 01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:53,599 like the Shake Milton spot in the rotation, that's very that's pretty due. 1038 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,599 I don't know, Shake, It's one of those things where like how 1039 01:02:57,639 --> 01:03:01,239 Gabe Vincent only ever played well when I watched him last year, Shake Milton 1040 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,679 only ever takes wild ass shots when I watched the Wolves, Like, I 1041 01:03:05,719 --> 01:03:07,840 don't know, you know, I can't claim to watch every Wolves game, 1042 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,239 but I've watched enough and it seems like every time I see him, Shake 1043 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:15,199 Milton has taken some like ridiculous caught under the basket, baseline spinning, looping 1044 01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:19,559 weird thing. So yeah, we can upgrade there, but it is getting 1045 01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:22,239 harder to find needs for these teams, and Minnesota was an example of that, 1046 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,840 as are the Boston Celtics, who are the next team because they have 1047 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,719 the best top six players in the league. I don't think it's close. 1048 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:35,239 I think Sam Hauser is at least a quality seventh guy. Just his shooting 1049 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,920 is legit. He can do a little bit more than you think with the 1050 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,719 ball. Defensively, he's like capable. So as a seventh guy on a 1051 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,039 you know, title favorite, certainly title contender, like that's sufficient to me. 1052 01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:51,079 This is still just you know, you depleted some of your depth in 1053 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,199 losing Robert Williams, which like turns out maybe that would have been depleted anyway 1054 01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:58,000 if you kept him on the roster. But that's that's that's the spot, 1055 01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:00,320 right, Like just another big, another big body. I don't know what 1056 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,800 kind of big, because you between Porzingis and al Horford, it's kind of 1057 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:08,960 like do you just want a bruiser? Like what what? Because if you 1058 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,400 do that, then like that guy's not probably not in your playoff rotation. 1059 01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:15,599 So you know, I don't know exactly what type of big I'd like, 1060 01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:18,400 but I think that's just on a team with so much talent, that's the 1061 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:23,199 one that sticks out that spot. I did think about another playmaker and was 1062 01:04:23,239 --> 01:04:26,360 going to interject, but then it's like, if you go out and get 1063 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,199 that, like Drew Holliday, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, like though Derek 1064 01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:31,199 White, those are going to be in your core most important units. Yeah, 1065 01:04:31,239 --> 01:04:35,119 and you're really just looking for regular season innings eaters no matter who you're 1066 01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:38,840 getting the player you just the way you were describing it, though, do 1067 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,679 you know what might work for this team? I don't know if they would 1068 01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:43,280 trade him because I think he could slide up. He's not really a big 1069 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,519 but he could slide over to Naji Marshall and they're not gonna be a ton 1070 01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:47,960 of minutes moving forward for him in New Orleans. So that would be a 1071 01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:51,360 name. Yeah. I like that. That is it, And Grant, 1072 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,840 guess what we do at the five fifty five minute mark, I think of 1073 01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,639 this podcast finished it by the sixty five minute. That's a anyone who knows 1074 01:05:01,679 --> 01:05:05,400 that's a dub. I believe in miracles. Now we did it and I 1075 01:05:05,519 --> 01:05:10,440 counted too. We did hit all thirty teams. I was like, that 1076 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,760 would be very on brand if we were celebrating right now and it's like you 1077 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,360 did twenty six teams idiots. Oh well sorry, Wow, that would be 1078 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,280 egregious if we left out like a twenty percent of the league would be it 1079 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:26,480 would be bad. You know. I wouldn't put it past us, but 1080 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,280 that frees us up. I'm just not used to being what do we do? 1081 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,559 Like? Do we we get like a cup of coffee or something? 1082 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:41,800 I know it is guess a player? Time for stat padding. I have 1083 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,639 a bunch for you. Do you have any for me? And did you 1084 01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:46,360 want to start? If you want me to start, I have a bunch 1085 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,119 for you. So if you want me to start, I can I can 1086 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,760 start. I want to use this one that Rubik Scale sent me just today. 1087 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:56,719 Actually just got it in under the wire. I just have to figure 1088 01:05:56,719 --> 01:05:59,559 out how to here we go, all right, this is specifically well, 1089 01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:01,480 I mean, of course it's specifically for you because there's only two people hosting. 1090 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:08,519 But it'd be weird if it wasn't for you. All right, guess 1091 01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:12,679 the player dan clue zero? We have a clue zero? Okay. I 1092 01:06:12,679 --> 01:06:20,239 averaged ten point nine points per game in my rookie season. No ten point 1093 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,079 nine points in my rookie season, which is also my age twenty season. 1094 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,000 That's clue zero. Clue one. Let's see if the NBA ever put together 1095 01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:31,920 an encyclopedia of high volume chuckers, I'd be on the cover, just like 1096 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,599 I was on the cover of NBA Live two thousand and eight. Oh no, 1097 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,719 I feel like I should know this were you an NBA Live guy or 1098 01:06:41,159 --> 01:06:45,280 I was growing up, I probably got so frustrated that I threw my PlayStation 1099 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,119 controller at the wall or actually broke the disc. I distinctly remember, and 1100 01:06:48,199 --> 01:06:51,719 I'm gonna date myself real hard here. NBA Live ninety five. I would 1101 01:06:51,719 --> 01:06:56,159 just turn off fouls and I would just steal the ball in the back court 1102 01:06:56,199 --> 01:06:59,480 every time with Brent Barry, and Brent Barry would average like fifty steals in 1103 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,400 one hundred point It's a game because you just hacked the guy and steal anyway. 1104 01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:05,760 Clue three. Uh, oh, clute, sorry, Clue two because 1105 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:10,599 we started at clue zero. I withdrew from the US national team in two 1106 01:07:10,639 --> 01:07:14,360 thousand and six for the Feeble World Championship because I felt that Mike D'Antoni and 1107 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,639 Nate McMillan had decided on the rosters even before the tryouts began. I swore 1108 01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:20,840 to score fifty against both their teams, and I dropped fifty four on the 1109 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,159 Suns on twenty one to thirty seven shooting, but was held to nine points 1110 01:07:25,159 --> 01:07:28,800 against the Blazers, including a franchise record worst zero for eight from three. 1111 01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:33,000 Clue team dropped those that's say or no, you do not have that information 1112 01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:38,440 yet, okay, uh Clue three. I still hold a franchise record for 1113 01:07:38,519 --> 01:07:41,119 most points scored in a game, though I share it with another person. 1114 01:07:41,159 --> 01:07:43,199 Now, it's not going to help you if you don't know the franchise, 1115 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,840 all right, pay attention here Clue four. The twenty eleven CBA included an 1116 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:53,920 amnesty clause where any arenas, did you say it one more time? Gilbert 1117 01:07:54,039 --> 01:07:58,840 Reinas? You got it? Yeah? Uh. He's so bad at his 1118 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,960 basketball takes. It's like, I don't know if he's doing it on purpose. 1119 01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:04,679 It's just I can't even people. I won't even I know people like 1120 01:08:04,679 --> 01:08:10,199 to dunk on it. It's so bad and inauthentic and disingenuine, to the 1121 01:08:10,199 --> 01:08:12,679 point that it is not even worth dunking on because it's just so A name 1122 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,720 the age twenty thing. Who was he shitting on for their like age twenty 1123 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,279 stats or something? Well that's the Oh yeah, that was the reason when 1124 01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:23,720 I saw that where it was I'm not arsaar Thompson because he doesn't get buckets. 1125 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,039 Isn't gonna be a yeah? Yeah, that's that's a bad look. 1126 01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:30,079 Okay, good job you got that the next you would have got it on 1127 01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:31,439 the on the fifth and six clues for sure. Good job, thank you, 1128 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:36,560 Rubik scal Another another good one. I have Rubik scale once for you. 1129 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,439 Are you ready? I hope? So this is clue number one, 1130 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,600 no Clue zero. I was a voice actor for a video game called Quest 1131 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,159 for the Code. The game was an educational one and was used to teach 1132 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:54,079 kids about asthma. It featured an all star cast of Glenn Close, General, 1133 01:08:54,119 --> 01:08:59,720 Norman Schwartzkop Whoopee Goldberg, Cuba Gooding Junior, Jeff Goldblum, and Gwyneth 1134 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,600 Paltrow. You're not gonna believe this, but I don't have an answer yet. 1135 01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:10,960 Okay. Clue number two, I'm sorry. The research slash knowledge of 1136 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,720 basketball and obscure facts about basketball from Rubik Scal is. This is Caitlin Cooper 1137 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:21,319 level stuff staggering a voice actor. Okay, all right, Clue two. 1138 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:26,800 I maintained a high degree of interest in police departments. I trained to become 1139 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,760 a Miami Beach Reserve officer. I was formerly sworn in and received a one 1140 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,600 dollar per year salary in this capacity. I actually called in to report a 1141 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:41,359 homophobic assault and I was responsible for the apprehension of two suspects under charges of 1142 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:46,199 aggravated assault and hate crime. I thought you were gonna get it here. 1143 01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:50,119 I just like, it's like tickling my brain, but I can't come up 1144 01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:54,680 with the person. It's not Shack, is it? It is Shack? 1145 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,800 Okay, you were gonna get it the next one. I think I own 1146 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,399 the record for the biggest individual sale Walmart tssues three seventy thousand dollars. MX 1147 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,279 declined in my card, flagging the transaction as possible fraud because they thought I 1148 01:10:05,319 --> 01:10:12,800 was still in Miami. That so that's an interesting strategy to throw out Shack, 1149 01:10:13,119 --> 01:10:16,119 like to throw out a super prominent player as a guessive player, because 1150 01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:18,560 I was quite like, it can't be Shack. Why would anyone picture it? 1151 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,520 Okay, all right, now, tell us clue where because we know 1152 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,880 Shaq's done. Like, first of all, he's like a brand ambassador for 1153 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,760 everybody. But it's like Ruby Scott wasn't even like Kazam. It's this voice 1154 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,520 actor thing that I even know existed. Right, My other guest was going 1155 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:38,319 to be I wouldn't have guessed it. But the other name was Olden Polonies. 1156 01:10:38,399 --> 01:10:41,239 Do you remember this guy? He was a center and he was like, 1157 01:10:41,279 --> 01:10:45,039 I think he was arrested for impersonating a police officer. Was that was 1158 01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:46,840 the other thing that jumped into my mind. Uh, all right, it 1159 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,640 was not Olden Polonies. I have some more. I have another one for 1160 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:56,960 you from Ruby Scale. You're ready, okay? Uh? Clue number one. 1161 01:10:57,319 --> 01:11:00,840 I'm the first New Zealand born player to ever play in the end At 1162 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,520 six' ten, I played both center and power forward. I should get 1163 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:10,560 it off of that. Uh, what's the next one? Clue two? 1164 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,000 I won two NBA Championships with the Spurs, one as a player in two 1165 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,239 thousand and five and the other as an assistant coach in twenty fourteen. I 1166 01:11:17,239 --> 01:11:21,640 would have had Sean Marks correct. That's great. One point five clues. 1167 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,880 Basically, that's impressive. Well, I don't know why I wasn't. I 1168 01:11:26,119 --> 01:11:29,359 always thought of him as Australian, which, sorry to any New Zealanders out 1169 01:11:29,359 --> 01:11:31,159 there, I'm sure that's something you hate. But okay, you got it. 1170 01:11:31,239 --> 01:11:35,640 Cool. I have one for you all. My clues are so basic 1171 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:41,239 compared to the good ones that we get from rubyscal and people on discord. 1172 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,039 All right, you have another one qued up or you want to do I 1173 01:11:44,039 --> 01:11:45,880 got a couple here that I came up with. I have more queued up 1174 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,920 and we can shift. I do want to share, just because ruberscus so 1175 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:54,199 many of these clues. The one, the one that I thought you were 1176 01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:56,239 if you missed it, you were going to get it on was Clue five. 1177 01:11:56,359 --> 01:11:58,640 I knew I was going to get a lot more TV time as GM 1178 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,039 than I ever did as an assistant coach, which and player, and the 1179 01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:03,560 initial press coverage of my team was mostly positive, as I took the league's 1180 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:08,920 worst organization and won with no draft picks and converted it into a landing spot 1181 01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:11,880 for the best free agents on the planet. I was not ready for the 1182 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,359 shit storm that was about to hit me in the wake of the pandemic. 1183 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,960 Yeah, that guy's been through a lot. It's been a real stuff over 1184 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,840 the past decade, or sure of all kinds, like he's lived every type 1185 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:27,560 of front office life and not that long of a span. All right, 1186 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,600 real quick again, my clues are so lame. I was the number one 1187 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:38,479 pick out of Duke in nineteen ninety nine, go to Duke. Grant Hill 1188 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:43,880 did go to Duke, but he was in ninety four. I forget what's 1189 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,560 up? One's going farther back, all right. As a rookie in ninety 1190 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,920 nine two thousand, I averaged twenty twenty point one points and ten point zero 1191 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,000 rebounds, making me one of two players to do that as a rookie this 1192 01:12:56,079 --> 01:13:00,640 century. How many rebounds? Twenty and ten basically as a rookie? Uh, 1193 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:05,239 I won CO Rookie of the Year with Steve Francis. Oh, I 1194 01:13:05,239 --> 01:13:10,319 should know this one to Corey mcgetty, did he go to Duke? He 1195 01:13:10,359 --> 01:13:12,720 did go to Duke. It is not Corey mcgetty, he was, Okay, 1196 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,760 can we just appreciate that I know some players who went to Duke. 1197 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,520 You're really just nailing your You say you don't know about college basketball. All 1198 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,399 right, I'm gonna skip the next clue because it's lame. Even though I 1199 01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:27,520 wrote it, well, okay, maybe it'll be helpful. I led the 1200 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,479 league in total offensive rebounds as a rookie and then again in my third year, 1201 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,479 but with a different team. So this guy was on a different team 1202 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,840 by his third year despite winning Rookie of the Year and having crazy numbers. 1203 01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:42,039 Elton brand, you got it, You're gonna get it. On the next 1204 01:13:42,079 --> 01:13:44,760 one, which was trade, I was traded the Clippers for the pick that 1205 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:49,399 became Tyson Chandler Tyson Chandler, and then the Bulls subsequently took Eddie Curry at 1206 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:54,680 number four to have two high school big men in their front line. All 1207 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,720 right, that was okay, can I give you one? I don't think 1208 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,520 you're gonna get Yeah, absolutely, all right. Then I was the number 1209 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:06,119 five pick by the Kings in twenty twelve after my junior year at Kansas. 1210 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,399 You won't actually might get it right there? Wait, I was a number 1211 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:16,720 five pick by the Kings in twenty twelve. Came in, he got it. 1212 01:14:19,159 --> 01:14:21,840 That was that long ago. Isn't that wild? I mean, the 1213 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:26,159 other clues for him are so hard because his career just like came and went, 1214 01:14:26,279 --> 01:14:30,479 and it's like I couldn't give you stat clues I couldn't get. So 1215 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:31,840 if I guess, if you were going to get it, you had to 1216 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,760 get it there. You might have gotten Talking about the trade, just some 1217 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:40,079 of the names might have triggered you when he went to Houston because he got 1218 01:14:40,079 --> 01:14:44,119 traded as a rookie. You remember that they drapped from fifth and they traded 1219 01:14:44,199 --> 01:14:46,960 him in season? No, I don't remember that. Wow, nuts, 1220 01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:50,359 they had to make room for DeMarcus Cousins. He was dominating already by then. 1221 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,159 All right, that's the end of my guess the players, So fire 1222 01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:57,039 away. All right, more from Rubik's gown. Then we have a couple 1223 01:14:57,079 --> 01:14:59,720 from I'll save some of the rest of Rubik's gowns because we have a couple 1224 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,279 from other people. This one's a trivia one. I think it's a good 1225 01:15:02,319 --> 01:15:06,399 one. The forty one point twenty rebound game in the NBA Cup Final by 1226 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:12,439 Anthony Davis was his fourth such forty and twenty game, tying Shack for the 1227 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,720 most such games. Can you name the five other NBA players with multiple forty 1228 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,439 point twenty rebound games? All right, well, are we going all the 1229 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:25,359 way back to Wilt? Uh? He's not on the list. Okay, 1230 01:15:25,399 --> 01:15:28,239 So We're not going back to Wilt because he definitely that's in forty twenty. 1231 01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:32,439 He probably averaged forty and twenty in several years. So just guy, just 1232 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:38,840 guys with forty twenty games. Correct, And you said Shack already. I 1233 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,800 didn't say Shaq, but he is on the list. It's Anthony Davis was 1234 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,279 the I will I will say Shack. Oh no you did, Oh Shaq 1235 01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:47,640 was in the clue. I apologize. So there's five more aside from Davis 1236 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,279 and Shack with multiple forty twenty games. God, well, so it's hard 1237 01:15:51,279 --> 01:15:56,880 because so I'll give you. I'll give you this hint. Two are active 1238 01:15:57,199 --> 01:16:00,399 and three are not active. If that helps. Mmmm, well, embiid 1239 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,239 probably has got to be one, right, yep, that's one. Did 1240 01:16:03,279 --> 01:16:08,199 Yo Kich do it? He did not? Not multiple times anyway? Oh 1241 01:16:08,279 --> 01:16:12,800 multiple forty twenties. Wow, who else that's active would do that? You 1242 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:18,359 know, dude, I'm going so blank. I don't have to leave the 1243 01:16:18,399 --> 01:16:23,119 active one behind, or you might have to give me some hints. One 1244 01:16:23,119 --> 01:16:26,479 of them was recently active, as active as last season, but is no 1245 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,600 longer on an NBA roster. Whoa a forty twenty that's out of the league. 1246 01:16:31,239 --> 01:16:35,800 You mentioned him already during this segment too. Wait what, I can't 1247 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:42,760 remember back that far. Uh oh, DeMarcus Cousins, right, yeah, 1248 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,960 he had really wild, right he had. I think it says he had 1249 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,279 three of those games he was he was doing like twenty six and twelve and 1250 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,399 five for like he was all yeah, man, he was getting numbers. 1251 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,399 You remember, I was so amped up when the Pelicans traded for him, 1252 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,199 and not in part because of the way it had, like in the middle 1253 01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:02,199 of the All Star Game, right, I think I was at I think 1254 01:17:02,199 --> 01:17:08,880 I was working. I was in Sacramento for like one of Buddy Heal's first 1255 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,600 games, and I can remember like really gymnastically stretching to be like, this 1256 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,000 is gonna be the guy that gets him into the next This is the turn 1257 01:17:15,079 --> 01:17:19,880 the page on DeMarcus Cousins. That was fun. Okay, forty twenty. 1258 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,720 I don't know. We gotta do like the usual suspect like David Robinson. 1259 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:31,640 No Aquma Lajauan No, hmmm, I mean we could just both of both 1260 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:39,239 of the non active players appeared in the original space jam Patrick Ewing, correct, 1261 01:17:39,359 --> 01:17:44,760 that's correct. Just now you're down to just so Anthony Davis, Shaq, 1262 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,359 Joel and BII, DeMarcus Cousins, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing. That's 1263 01:17:47,359 --> 01:17:51,720 six of the seven players with multiple forty twenty games. The final one is 1264 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:58,439 active. As I said, oh shit, there's another active guy. I 1265 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,920 don't know. Did Luca do it? Most times you're missing a pretty obvious 1266 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:06,840 one. I feel like a pretty obvious one. Well that's hurt that's hurtful, 1267 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,840 Dan, Uh, it's not coming to me. There's no other good 1268 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,640 centers like we got. He did. I didn't say they had to be 1269 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,479 a center I know, but in my brain they do. He dislikes Tyrese 1270 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:25,920 Haliburton, He Disloyanis. Yeah, Giannis has had three of those games. 1271 01:18:26,279 --> 01:18:28,920 Yeah, that was dumb. I should have got honest. Good question, 1272 01:18:29,319 --> 01:18:32,760 good question. All right, Uh, there's another trivia one. Let me 1273 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,319 go to the next guess. A player from Ruvie scal clue number one. 1274 01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:41,079 I was drafted fifty sixth overall by the Spurs in two thousand and two. 1275 01:18:41,279 --> 01:18:44,079 While I was still playing in Spain. In two thousand and five, san 1276 01:18:44,119 --> 01:18:47,279 Antonio tried to buy me out of my contract with Sekai Basconia, the Spanish 1277 01:18:47,359 --> 01:18:50,199 league team that I led to every major Spanish league title as well as the 1278 01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:54,560 EuroLeague finals, but the contracts buy out them out with three million dollars. 1279 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:59,880 In the NBA only allowed five hundred thousand dollars for buying out contracts. Is 1280 01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:11,079 this Louis Skola correct? Wow, the og Argentine superstar before mattered ginobili As 1281 01:19:11,119 --> 01:19:15,239 Rubikskal said, that's impressive. That's sneaky to throws Spain out there as like 1282 01:19:15,279 --> 01:19:19,359 a throw you off the Argentinian guy. All right, I feel good about 1283 01:19:19,359 --> 01:19:26,359 that one. That is incredible, thank you. So let's get to the 1284 01:19:26,399 --> 01:19:30,199 next one from Rubiscal Who one. I've been part of some very important trades 1285 01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:32,760 in my short NBA career. That's the first clue. Would you like to 1286 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:39,000 take a guess? No clue too. I was drafted by the Jazz in 1287 01:19:39,039 --> 01:19:41,840 twenty sixteen, but ended up in a three team trade that sent Jeff Tegue 1288 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,720 to the Pacers, George Hill to the Jazz, and me to the Hawks, 1289 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,239 where I became the first Hawks rookie to have a double digit scoring in 1290 01:19:47,319 --> 01:19:50,920 my first four playoff games since Pete Maravich. Okay, hold on, So 1291 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,960 this guy's drafted by the Jazz but has a what do you do for? 1292 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,199 The Hawks ended up in a three team trade that sent Jeff T to the 1293 01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:01,279 Pacers, George to the Jazz, and this player to the Hawks, where 1294 01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:05,720 he became the first Hawks rookie to have double digit scoring in his first four 1295 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:10,880 playoff games since Pete Maravich. Double digit. Oh man, I'm all messed 1296 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,399 up because I want to say Paul millsap because he was drafted late, but 1297 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,840 he was not on the Hawks as a rookie. A rookie on the Hawks 1298 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,680 that's scoring like crazy in the playoffs. Okay, I don't have it. 1299 01:20:23,079 --> 01:20:26,640 Who three? The Hawks traded me to Brooklyn in twenty nineteen in exchange for 1300 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,439 Alan Crab and the rights to Nikil Alexander Walker. You're Chris Bouchet. Oh 1301 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:38,000 why can't I get this? Traded me for Crab? That's a lot. 1302 01:20:38,079 --> 01:20:40,600 Yeah, that good first clue. That is a lot of weird trades that 1303 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,159 this guy's been in. All there's more coming, all right, I still 1304 01:20:44,159 --> 01:20:46,279 don't have it. In two clo four in twenty twenty one, I was 1305 01:20:46,319 --> 01:20:49,640 sent to Cleveland along with Jared Allen as part of the James Harden trade. 1306 01:20:50,199 --> 01:20:57,479 God damn it. Who is this the Hawks thing is really throwing me? 1307 01:20:58,359 --> 01:21:00,680 This guy scored a bunch as a rookie in the playoffs for the Hawks. 1308 01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:05,720 I do everyone discard that it might get easier to pick this player if I 1309 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:11,439 leave the Hawks thing alone. No, if you just forget about that playoff 1310 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,600 whatever thing, remember they played for the Hawks for sure. Yeah. So 1311 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:24,439 this guy, this person goes Jazz Hawks nets for Alan Crab that he aves 1312 01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,279 from the nets. Yes, as part of the James Harden trade. This 1313 01:21:28,359 --> 01:21:31,279 is so frustrating, Like, and it's recent too. I can't you can't 1314 01:21:31,279 --> 01:21:34,039 say James Harden trade. He's been traded so many times. I can't remember 1315 01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:36,159 who was in any package. All Right, I still don't have it. 1316 01:21:36,199 --> 01:21:40,319 I'm disappointed. Clue five. In the summer of twenty twenty one, I 1317 01:21:40,359 --> 01:21:45,880 was traded to the Timberwolves for Ricky Rubio. It's like, this person's probably 1318 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:53,279 still on the Timberwolves. Ah, I think you'll get it after this next 1319 01:21:53,279 --> 01:21:55,640 clue you want, I hope. So I feel like I should have got 1320 01:21:55,680 --> 01:22:00,880 it three clues ago. Clue six, I won the Inaugural in Tournament with 1321 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,399 the only team I wasn't traded to. I signed with the Lakers as a 1322 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:11,880 free agent in the summer of twenty twenty three. Is it cam Reddish? 1323 01:22:12,319 --> 01:22:15,159 No, No, this, I'm I'm already in my I'm so in my 1324 01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:18,880 head right now. So this guy's on the Lakers right now and signed. 1325 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,960 There there's no more clue. Do you want it? I mean, I 1326 01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,640 feel like I'm just gonna drag this out if I just slowly go through the 1327 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,000 Lakers roster and and try to think of the person. So sure, give 1328 01:22:31,039 --> 01:22:35,399 me the last clue, seventh and final clue. I have played four hundred 1329 01:22:35,399 --> 01:22:40,520 and forty five NBA games, averaging ten plus points, shooting thirty seven point 1330 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,680 one percent from three. But my most watched basketball moment was my answer to 1331 01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:49,079 the question how does Baylor get out rebounded by Yale at the twenty sixteen March 1332 01:22:49,119 --> 01:22:54,720 Madness Tournament? Who am I? Uh? Torrian Prince? There you go, 1333 01:22:55,119 --> 01:22:58,720 Ah League, there you go? Oh Man, Rubyscaut made you say, 1334 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,199 gollyugh the shit? Serious? I mean, how do you get Louis 1335 01:23:02,279 --> 01:23:08,439 Skull and not get Torrian Prints? What kind of what kind of person can't 1336 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,800 can't do that? All right? Good, you have another guest, a 1337 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,640 player for you from be Rich. All right, this one. I've I've 1338 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,520 been I've been taunted about this one several times over the last week, so 1339 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:21,319 I'm expecting it to be very diabolical. Clue one. I was a nineteen 1340 01:23:21,399 --> 01:23:25,600 ninety seven lottery pick and was traded to the Sixers two days after the draft. 1341 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,520 I went on to start forty eight games and was second team All Rookie, 1342 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:36,359 second team All Rookie for the Sixers in ninety seven. Keith van Horn 1343 01:23:38,399 --> 01:23:42,399 no good guests though, thank you. Clue two, but getting a trend 1344 01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,199 that would continue my entire career. I was underappreciated by my team, starting 1345 01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:48,479 none of the first seventeen games in my second season, and was traded to 1346 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:54,159 a George Carl coach team that actually appreciated my combination of size and skill. 1347 01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:03,279 So we're going from the Sixers in ninety seven to a George Carl coached team. 1348 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:08,439 Don't have it. Clue three. I made the playoffs four of the 1349 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,239 next five years, bouncing back and forth between starter and bench player as a 1350 01:24:12,279 --> 01:24:15,840 stretch for before being a key piece in a three team trade that moved, 1351 01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:19,880 ironically, Keith van Horn from the mix to the box. Is this Tim 1352 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:25,680 Thomas correct? Yeah? Thank you for not making me go to clue four, 1353 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:30,760 which had the Eddie Curry trade to the Knicks ANDSD ninety seven. Man, 1354 01:24:31,039 --> 01:24:34,479 what a time. Tim Thomas had some great postseason minutes for the Suns 1355 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:39,600 and a year I cannot remember. Pretty chiseled arms and shoulders if I remember 1356 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,439 correctly too. Shout out, shout out, Tim Thomas. I have so 1357 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,880 Mike Kernishon gave you has a bunch. But I'll get to one because we've 1358 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,359 done so many already. I'm very curious to see if you get this. 1359 01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,000 I don't know what have we done one from him before? I don't know 1360 01:24:54,039 --> 01:24:56,680 what. I don't know. I gotta get in the right he did one 1361 01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,119 previously to you, all right, all right? Clue number one. I 1362 01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:02,600 was a lottery pick of the Milwaukee Bucks in the twenty tens. Care to 1363 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:08,600 take a guess, Brandon Jennings. No, he was drafted in two thousand 1364 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:12,399 and nine, so he really fucked up. Boy. I should be disqualified 1365 01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:18,600 immediately. Oh man, I was neither an international draft pick or college player, 1366 01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:23,079 as I technically went straight from high school to the NBA. Hmm, 1367 01:25:24,279 --> 01:25:28,199 it seems like a sneaky clue. Okay, I don't know Clue three, 1368 01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:31,319 Kevin Garnett famously endorsed me, saying that I have the bones to be a 1369 01:25:31,319 --> 01:25:40,439 great player at my position. Yeah, I mean, not an international and 1370 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:45,239 not a college player, So it's a high school player. Although that was 1371 01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:47,359 just kind of a suspect. Okay, I still don't have it. Clue 1372 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,680 four. When I was drafted at age nineteen, there was speculation I was 1373 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:56,319 as old as twenty six due to a combination of terminology mix up and concy 1374 01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:02,600 conspiracy theories. This is a I see, I'm assuming it's an American high 1375 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,880 school player, but that doesn't seem like that could happen. All right, 1376 01:26:06,399 --> 01:26:11,720 that's weird. Clue number five. I am the second highest drafted player from 1377 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:19,359 my birth country in NBA history. Oh uh, what's his name? Is 1378 01:26:19,399 --> 01:26:23,960 it? This is the entire part of the game. Oh right, you're 1379 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,399 not gonna just tell me. I can't just ask you. Is it thn 1380 01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,520 Maker? Uh? It is not. It is Don mccurr. Okay, 1381 01:26:30,199 --> 01:26:32,239 that was the next clue. That's why I was being asshole. No one 1382 01:26:32,279 --> 01:26:38,359 ever pronounced my last name correctly during my time. He said eventually that it 1383 01:26:38,399 --> 01:26:42,520 was Don mccurr. Yeah, that's right. That's right, twenty in the 1384 01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,079 twenty tens. Wow, that seemed more recent than that. I remember there 1385 01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:47,960 were people that thought he was going to be exceptional. They were calling him 1386 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:56,600 like the next Unicorn. I can remember being asked by br to basically be 1387 01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,720 like, what do you what do you We gotta cover this guy? Like 1388 01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:02,479 do you want to do like some interview, like try to like do a 1389 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,880 reported piece on him, And I was just like, how do we contact 1390 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,760 this person? Well? Do you know what they ended up doing, because 1391 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,760 I remember Howard Beck ended up handling it for you, so okay. I 1392 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,000 probably said you should get Beck on this one. They were like, yeah, 1393 01:27:17,039 --> 01:27:19,399 we'll go to our top choice, and when you couldn't do it, 1394 01:27:20,359 --> 01:27:24,399 I'm sure. I'm sure that's exactly how it went. It was probably like 1395 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,640 they asked Howard first and then he's like, I'm too busy, and they 1396 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,159 said, let's get somebody else, and I said, I don't know how 1397 01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:32,199 to do this. I'm gonna give you this one from Ruby's alum because it's 1398 01:27:32,199 --> 01:27:34,359 trivia and I don't want it to get lost in the shuffle. Over the 1399 01:27:34,359 --> 01:27:39,520 next week or two, Lebron has obviously scored the most points in the NBA 1400 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,840 since the year two thousand. How many players can you name from the top 1401 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:47,760 ten scores after two thousand, leader board after two thousand, Well, Kobe, 1402 01:27:49,079 --> 01:27:57,279 correct, that's one, Mellow two after two thousand. So we got 1403 01:27:57,279 --> 01:28:00,760 to get way. I mean, it's like Chris Paul on there, just 1404 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,119 because of all the years Chris Paul is on there. Rubska went pretty deep 1405 01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:08,359 into the bag. Here's how many am I trying to get here? I 1406 01:28:08,399 --> 01:28:11,760 can count for you very quickly, but it looks like maybe just like some 1407 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,279 of the top ten, there's ten. I think there's twenty. Let me 1408 01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:19,520 see sixty seventy eighteen nineteen twenty, there's twenty one players, so you can 1409 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,880 just start. Let's see how many can get before you get a strike? 1410 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:28,359 All right? Paul Pierce, yes he's in the top ten. Tim Duncan, 1411 01:28:31,239 --> 01:28:35,199 oh yeah, okay, yeah, Dirk, yes he's in the top 1412 01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:39,960 ten as well. Here's who you've gotten that's in the top ten. Paul 1413 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,960 Pierce, Lebron that was giving you, Dirk, Kobe, and Mellow. 1414 01:28:44,039 --> 01:28:47,000 So you have five of the top ten. So there's still I still don't 1415 01:28:47,039 --> 01:28:49,279 have five. From the gosh, it's so hard to like turn your brain 1416 01:28:49,399 --> 01:28:55,960 back to two thousand. Who was really good? You could think active players 1417 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,119 as well. Ok yeah, I guess, But then, like if you 1418 01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:02,239 I'll say Duran, but that starts like sixth okay on the list, So 1419 01:29:02,319 --> 01:29:05,199 yeah, it starts like six or oh seven, I forget what his rookie 1420 01:29:05,279 --> 01:29:14,119 year was. Harden, he's number seven killing it. Hmmm. Who else 1421 01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:15,319 has gotten a ton of buckets? So I got a couple more in the 1422 01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:17,720 top ten left, we should probably see if I can get the top ten. 1423 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,000 Yeah, you have seven of them. Well, you got six of 1424 01:29:20,039 --> 01:29:23,920 the remaining nine of the top ten, so you have three more. You 1425 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,800 have three more, three more in the top ten. I will tell you 1426 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:32,039 one of those final three has played with James Harden and Kevin Durant at the 1427 01:29:32,079 --> 01:29:35,960 same time, and has played with Russell Westbrook. Uh, I go, 1428 01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:40,199 I was gonna say Russ before you'll get I'll give it to you. So 1429 01:29:40,279 --> 01:29:44,079 Russ is eight. So you have the ninth and ten spots. Oh okay, 1430 01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:47,079 Well that's good number in the league. Right now? What's that Neither 1431 01:29:47,119 --> 01:29:49,319 of the last too are in the league? Right? Oh okay, that's 1432 01:29:49,319 --> 01:30:00,039 helpful. Man From two thousand and ninth and tenth total points. I'm I 1433 01:30:00,039 --> 01:30:03,920 mean, I think I'm not gonna I'm not guessing Shack he was kind of 1434 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:09,279 on the way out points wise by then, I'm sure correct. I mean 1435 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:15,960 Kevin Garnett. He is in the top twenty, so I won't give you 1436 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,479 a strike there. Well, I mean I probably should. I'm trying to 1437 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,439 get top ten, so I probably should get I'm just trying to think of 1438 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:26,920 guys that played a ton. But yeah, I guess Garnett was like ninety 1439 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:32,359 five, so he lost them as a very prominent former teammate of Lebron James, 1440 01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:39,119 prominent former teammate of oh Dwayne Wade. Correct, he's nine, so 1441 01:30:39,159 --> 01:30:42,600 you have one more. This one I think is tough, just because he 1442 01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,520 was around the league for so long. Oh, Vince Carter. Correct, 1443 01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:54,119 Okay, that's a job. Steph was eleven, Damorrow was twelve, Tim 1444 01:30:54,199 --> 01:30:59,199 Duncan was thirteen. CP three is fourteen, Pow is fifteen, LaMarcus Aldridge 1445 01:30:59,199 --> 01:31:02,319 is sixteen, Jojo In his seventeen, Dame is eighteen, Garnett nineteen, 1446 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:09,600 Dwight Howard was twenty. I feel like Powe and who is right around Pow 1447 01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,720 that you know, Joe Johnson are always just like on all these lists that 1448 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,479 you never think of. Joe Johnson was a bucket. He was an absolute 1449 01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,279 bucket. Oh you're a bucket as well. Do you want to take us 1450 01:31:18,279 --> 01:31:20,600 out of here? I do? Thank you very much everyone, Thank you 1451 01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:26,119 for listening, for contributing, for rating, reviewing, subscribing. If you're 1452 01:31:26,119 --> 01:31:30,640 not doing that, please please help us out. Leave us positive comments, 1453 01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,680 rate us with five stars, just do whatever you can. 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