WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:19.559 Thank you for listening to Pictures Media Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights, 2 00:00:21.160 --> 00:01:03.680 the show about the government policy and human rights. All right, welcome back 3 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.040 to Policy Rights. Here in Depictions Media Radio, I'm your host, Michael 4 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:19.760 Cloggs. So we're gonna hear uh from the Minister of Foreign Affairs UH for 5 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:27.280 the Liberal government as she speaks about what is going on in the Middle East, 6 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:36.319 Israel, in Iran, Israel and Gaza and other things. She's m 7 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:44.000 making statements and she is going to talk with people in the hopes of bringing 8 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:59.640 about ceasefires and commer heads in the wake of a Jones drone strike. Along 9 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:09.439 with it that the w h O reported about the hospital in Gaza that is 10 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:15.800 just simply left in ruins. They're standing in the rubble as they're reporting about 11 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:24.039 it. There were patients that have been transferred to other hospitals. And here's 12 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:34.280 the thing. According to u N rules and on war combat things like that, 13 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:38.439 that civilian sights such as hospitals, are supposed to be considered to be 14 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:45.719 safe havens. And we're seeing more and more that that isn't the truth. 15 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:53.960 We're seeing that the MAS may have been using hospitals to shield their operations, 16 00:02:54.400 --> 00:03:04.639 knowing that military operations cannot reach them from within the hospital. We're seeing that 17 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:13.680 under that same guys that Israel has gone ahead and destroyed hospitals and other civilian 18 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:25.800 sites that should have been safe havens. There's a lot going on with the 19 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:34.479 Middle East, a lot to that has to be accounted for before a real 20 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:44.400 peace could be found, and we had to keep that in mind as we 21 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:53.280 listened to Melanie Jolie as she's speaking about Canada's stance on what is actually happening 22 00:03:53.439 --> 00:04:00.800 in the Middle East at this point. So why don't we listen to what 23 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:10.599 it is? She said in her statement to the press from Aroawa. Okay. 24 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:15.479 So, first and foremost, Canada and equivocally condemned the attacks by Irun 25 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:21.319 against Israel over the weekend. This is unprecedented. We stand with the people 26 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:30.519 of Israel, and of course this attack only served to destabilize the region and 27 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:35.879 further escalation and this is completely unacceptable. I've been in contact over the weekend 28 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:41.680 with my Israeli counterparts, with many actors in the region, having many conversations. 29 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:49.240 Canada is pushing diplomatically to stop further escalation, and at the same time 30 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:55.639 we are still calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. It is important that hostages 31 00:04:55.720 --> 00:05:01.399 be released, and it is important also that aid be sent to Palestinians in 32 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:06.439 Gaza. I'm heading tonight to Italy for the G seven Foreign Ministers meetings. 33 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:14.399 We'll have many conversations about this, will be indeed talking about the Middle East, 34 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:20.920 putting much more further sanctions against Iran and its regime, and also engaging 35 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:26.120 with the global seult as. We are looking forward to bring much more peace 36 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:36.279 to the world. Don francs the Canada condan san Ziki vok Li's attack Contrirael 37 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:46.040 called the weekend city, this city, this attack, sant president uh Israeli 38 00:05:46.519 --> 00:06:05.480 dancing moments, sil attack regionalad complete my axceptam she don't contact AVEC monomeologue Israeli 39 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:15.240 of course weekend she don't contact region. 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May you see a trava region. 46 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:44.279 Continue, I met the LA press pointer uh new Paige and then on 47 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:54.360 continual fire in minis the LA security public see the the yard the I g 48 00:07:54.959 --> 00:08:07.680 fran so come from let's see realist collect the security public cast and posit dis 49 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:20.319 sanction and sure to sus the cell conyn at the terror par par le revolution 50 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.199 Islamic. Yes, another co in French. And then I'll go in English. 51 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:35.000 When you would diplomatic your daughter knows that declared revolution when you diplomatic affair 52 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:46.559 on the comes with zim is the secutive public. It's new sa sports SoC 53 00:08:48.279 --> 00:09:09.480 nivoda dit plusia person ARTSTI in sanction presson maximal p called weekend l Israel complete 54 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:33.480 my next atta a la di esi avec premiur refleca getting the IRGC as a 55 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.320 terrorist organization. Thank you so. First and foremost we know that Iran is 56 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:43.440 spread against terror within its own country and also across the region and the world, 57 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:50.720 and that is why we've sanctioned very clearly key individuals and will continue to 58 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:56.679 put maximum pressure against the Iranian regime which completely disregards peace. The Minister of 59 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:05.440 Public Safety is actively working on options and it is important that we also coordinate 60 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:11.600 with our key allies. Meanwhile, that it is clear that Canada is pushing 61 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:16.080 for de escalation in the region, and that is a coordinate message that we're 62 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.080 all sending the G seven countries. A clarify, Minister, when is one 63 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.519 of the options on the table can be very clear for Canadians. It's one 64 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:26.360 of the options on the table designating the IRGC as a terrorist organization. Is 65 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:31.120 that an active option you're considering? The Prime Minister already answered that question back 66 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:35.240 in January and he already said that we were actively working on it. That 67 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.519 being said, as of now, under my purview, what we can do 68 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:46.080 is quickly designate key individuals that are part of these activities that are criminal activities 69 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:50.799 against Israelis and also against our interests. And that is why on my side, 70 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.200 I'll be working on this issue. The escalator. When you say the 71 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:56.960 escalator, are you taking the position is Canada taking the position that Israel should 72 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:05.000 not pond to this attack by Iran. We think that it's important that Israel 73 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:09.039 be able to protect itself. It has done so over the weekend, and 74 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:13.080 we are clearly pushing for the escalation and we need to make sure that the 75 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:18.320 conflict doesn't extend through the region. So that is why I've been clear to 76 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:24.240 my counterpart in please take the win and make sure that we can work together 77 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:33.120 to bring back peace in the region. Pressure, what does it look you're 78 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.759 not going to designate it as a terrorist? Can you come start again? 79 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:41.039 Rafi? Sure? What does maximum pressure look like? If you're not going 80 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.559 to take the step to as a terrorist organization? What will we do instead? 81 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.639 I've said that we are actively working on this. The Prime Minister answered 82 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.919 the question back in January, and the Minister of Public Safety is on this 83 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:58.879 issue. What I can do under my own purview, in my own responsibility, 84 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:07.000 under my own legislation, is designating people and making sure that they're sanctioned. 85 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.679 And that's what I'm working on. Because we've already sanctioned dozens of key 86 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:16.080 RGC officials, we need to go further and that's why I'll be working with 87 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:28.120 g seven countries as I'm heading to Italy later today, which Pascal Israel concrete 88 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:54.919 mosque and Angeles Israel Israel reel amenta Pari pari an again and take the wins 89 00:12:54.240 --> 00:13:03.399 Anfes israelas weekend I did de monstra the capastics. Now the strategy Petre travails 90 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:11.279 on fel courtes weekend parsquals if it's inden attacks Saint President bar lir p t 91 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:28.159 Dney as well. Region is the exact americavailable. I want to ask you 92 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:39.279 on the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist svo Well, certainly, I have one of 93 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.039 the largest Arenian Canadian populations in my riding in the country, and I speak 94 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.039 with the community about it all the time. I would say, we put 95 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:52.960 into place a whole range of sanctions and UH, and we are continuing to 96 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.720 look at all other ways to actually continue to tighten the screws on the government 97 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.759 of Iran. That includes UH. The issue around list of the IRGC. 98 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:03.279 It is not simple under Canadian law, and of course we want to ensure 99 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.919 that we are not impacting conscripts to the IERGC. But it certainly remains a 100 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.519 love conversation. Would you talk to your constituents about it. What are they 101 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.879 telling you. They are telling me that they have appreciated the acts that the 102 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:20.840 government put a range of different restrictions on the government of Iran, and they 103 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.000 are looking for us to continue the efforts to tighten the screws on the government 104 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.879 of r N and to ensure that we are enforcing some of the regulations around 105 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.919 people who shouldn't be in this country to not be in this country. Do 106 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.759 you think, though, do you think that the IRGC is a terrorist organization? 107 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:37.480 Do you think it should be labeled as such? Well, I think 108 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.360 you know, it's recognized around the world that the government of Iran's there's terrorism 109 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:48.759 and the IERGC is involved in that in a direct way. So again there 110 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:54.159 are complexities under Canadian law that mister Pouliov likes to ignore. But we certainly 111 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:56.759 are looking for any in all ways to tighten the screws on the government of 112 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:01.679 Iran and on the IURGC. Are continuing to look at the issue of listening 113 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:07.080 within the Canadian law. Fran Le franc a vote position. So the i 114 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:18.399 r g C a common group terrorist leg say say key h Commas cont the 115 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:26.639 key contribute a terrorism Dono Moan amas Ques Bala group, the terrorists, a 116 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:35.799 new volon metron plas, the Governor, Duran a mems and cud ir GC 117 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:43.600 a new new president mon news Avon news all News Avon conversation, the commerce 118 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:52.759 on pur plus news plus Boku the Mexico to address as new news. 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The Governor and prem thank you very 128 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:33.759 much. Here's a couple of soundbites from the w h O and the u 129 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:42.960 N as you're going to tour the al schefta hospital that was left in ruins 130 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:53.319 after fighting and the hospital was built and supplied by efforts by the w h 131 00:17:53.440 --> 00:18:03.440 L, and they are touring it, showing one the emergency room, neonatal 132 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:11.200 care units and nurseries and talking about the destruction that had there. And then 133 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:18.440 the clip after that, we're going to hear as doctors are talking about the 134 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:29.000 medications that are needed. You will hear one talk about anesthesia, and we're 135 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:38.440 also going to hear some statements from grateful patients as they're being transferred to other 136 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:49.559 hospitals for for better care and for needed treatment. So they the part of 137 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:57.960 the clips will be actually in the native Palestinian Arabic and not in English, 138 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:04.400 so we'll just have to bear with that. So when we listen to those 139 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:11.799 two clips right now, and then we'll come back from the un floor as 140 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:19.039 we hear a representative from the AEA as they're making statements to the press. 141 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:38.880 This is what used to be the emergency department and as you can see, 142 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:44.039 it's totally destroyed. Everything is burned and there's a smell of seawach. End 143 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:52.359 of the rotten bodies around. What you also see here in the yard of 144 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.559 the hospital are the graves of people who have died. Some of them have 145 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:00.759 been buried, some of them are not yet and buried in many other places. 146 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:07.480 You can see the bodies that are opening under the gazen sun. Behind 147 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:17.319 me is the remains of the Nanatal Intensive Ky Union and the nursery. In 148 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:22.400 the last three years, who has passed more than five billion USD to make 149 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:27.960 sure that patients would be getting proper care. Now the place that used to 150 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:45.359 save lives and limbs, it's all torn down to pieces. In the chapel 151 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:59.359 of a Larky hospital which also served as an impatient ward the majority of patience 152 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:03.519 of trauma cases. There's still the shortage of all kinds of medication, including 153 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:11.480 anesthesia, which we need to get in as quickly as possible because of our 154 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:19.519 mire. We're taking with us three creative patients, but we could have taken 155 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:26.640 with us maybe fifty patients or one hundred patients as who deserve better treatment and 156 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:53.240 care. Absolutely, I know an and and the hat dog and you're a 157 00:21:53.519 --> 00:22:12.079 decided the look and as we can on a coping and thank you, okay, 158 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:22.519 So the representative for the International Atomic Energy Agency or the AEA, mister 159 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:30.440 Raphael Grossi, he's going to make some statements about threats to international peace and 160 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:42.920 security following his addressing the Security Council Atomic Energy and Security. We have seen, 161 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:55.279 at least in the Ukraine and Russia that nuclear power plants have been targeted 162 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:04.640 and the results of tarketing such a site can be absolutely disastrous for many generations. 163 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:12.000 We've seen in the past, We've seen accidents such as Chernobyl that have 164 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:26.559 happened where we're decades later and the land still is not usable. So imagine 165 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:33.960 if a nuclear power plant is specifically targeted by a drone or missile and the 166 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:42.119 destruction to communities, surrounding communities and the people around them, what they could 167 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:48.279 actually mean. So with that, why don't we listen to what mister Grossi, 168 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:57.680 the director of the International Atomic Energy Agency, has to say about global 169 00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:15.640 security and international peace with reticular and atomic energy when making statements as far as 170 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:18.880 the agency is concerned, I don't refer to national statements, But as far 171 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:23.759 as the agency who is inspecting there is concerned. We don't have any information 172 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:30.880 or indication that there is a nuclear weapon program in Iran. At the same 173 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:36.000 time, while we say this, which we need to say, we are 174 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:44.279 telling our any account counterparts that this important accumulation of nuclear material at levels that 175 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:49.640 are very very close technically identical, almost to a weapon grade level, of 176 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:56.200 course, is not irrelevant and raises questions in the international community. This is 177 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:02.279 why we are always urging, asking requiring them to cooperate with us. In 178 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:07.920 full, I can say that I am re established, re establishing contacts with 179 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:12.160 the Iranian government in order for me personally. Of course, our inspectors continue 180 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:18.119 to do their work. As I was just responding to your colleague here. 181 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.400 It's not that we are not there, but we are not there at the 182 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:26.240 level that we consider we should be. So I hope in the next few 183 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:32.440 weeks to return to Tehran and to try to put the situation back on track 184 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:40.480 with your traveling to Iran. We are talking about that. Yes, I'm 185 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:44.319 mister Margaret, is your voice of Martha. I will switch it back to 186 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:52.640 Ukraine now please and Zaparitza. Sorry, I just like wrote so many notes 187 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:59.880 here for just one clarification. First, if I could you talked about two 188 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.880 two external lines of power. That only has two external lines of power for 189 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.119 those of us who are not nuclear sciences, could you tell us how many 190 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:14.559 lines of external power facility like that it used to have ten? It used 191 00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:19.480 to have ten. So now as you can see, with only two seven 192 00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:26.279 hundred and fifty kiload and the other three hundred and thirty with only two lines 193 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:34.720 and frequent interruptions including nine blackouts, this safety situation of the plant is very 194 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:41.880 serious because you need this external power supply in order to ensure the cooling function 195 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:48.480 of the reactors, which even at the current status which is in the jargon 196 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.200 we call it shutdown, means that they are working almost at a very very 197 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:57.319 minimal level or completely stopped. Temperatures are lower, but you have a lot 198 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:07.559 of nuclear material there and of course which is still in need of continuous cooling. 199 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:15.160 So if you lose the power that allows the cooling systems to work, 200 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.720 then as it happened several times, then you have to recourse as you would 201 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:26.319 in a private house. You need to use emergency generators, which are, 202 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.079 you know, the last line of defense. I would say so one never 203 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:37.839 wants to be with the last emergency measure, the last emergency tool that you 204 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:42.480 have in your toolbox to avoid a meltdown. So this is why the issue 205 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:48.119 of the power lines is something I am constantly repeating. And on the five 206 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.000 on the five principles that you have been going over, you seem to be 207 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:59.480 pretty clear excuse me and the council on four of them, but you didn't 208 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:04.000 really you didn't seem to say whether weapons or have the equipment are being stored 209 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:08.519 in There is no heavy weaponary there heavy no. I have to say it 210 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:18.279 because when we establish this five concrete principles, we did it not top of 211 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:23.559 my head. It was the result of almost a year long effort where we 212 00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:32.920 consulted with Ukraine, with Russia on what would be the essential elements that should 213 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.240 not happen, should not take place, and we even if you look at 214 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:45.559 them, we gave some examples multiple rocket launchers, tanks, heavier artillery and 215 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:52.079 ammunition. So at the same time there is security presence, There are armored 216 00:28:52.200 --> 00:29:00.759 vehicles and some security presence at the plant, which has been publicized quite openly 217 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:06.279 and also in my own reports. But when it comes to heavy weaponry at 218 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.079 the plant, the vicinity is something else. But at the plant, within 219 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:18.279 the plant, our experts so far have not been have not seen that yes, 220 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:23.000 sir, thank you. See Stefanova watched the New York Title Press. 221 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:30.519 You know you've been here several of times. I remember a year ago and 222 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:37.119 you were kind of worried, very worried the situation. So now after two 223 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:42.319 years of Russian invasion, comparing with the situation, now, how worried are 224 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:48.799 you more or less? And and today we saw again, you know, 225 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:55.839 the Russian ambassador the Ukrainian ambassador pointing fingers to each other. Basically, everyone 226 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:02.400 is saying that somebody is somebody else thought all the time. Now you in 227 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:07.440 your report, would you clarify if you had to give a yellow card, 228 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:12.680 which one gets the first yellow card? Russia Ukraine. Well, what you 229 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.480 raise is a very important point, and it is the point that everybody is 230 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:26.599 talking about this issue of attribution. Point finger says it's this country or that 231 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:33.759 country. We are not commentators, We are not political speculators or scholars or 232 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:42.960 analysts. We are an international agency of inspectors. And in order to say 233 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:56.880 something like that, we must have proof, indisputable evidence that an attack or 234 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:07.759 remnant of ammunition or or any other weapon is coming from a certain place. 235 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:14.079 And in this case, it is simply impossible let me remind you that these 236 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:18.839 attacks have been performed with a multitude of drones. First of all, the 237 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:29.839 drone, as we all know by their own technical functioning, has a diverse 238 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:37.759 trajectory. It hovers its circles. It can go into Remember this plant is 239 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:42.359 at the front line. It can go to the Russian occupied territory. It 240 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:48.359 can come from different places. It could be man from one side and belong 241 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.720 to another side. So for us it would be impossible. At the same 242 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:57.039 time, because we have been looking at the at these drones. These are 243 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:07.079 for rather drones which can be obtained almost anywhere. So the technical I would 244 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:15.720 say forensic is not there to allow me to say it is undisputably something coming 245 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:24.559 from here or there. This is why we keep the information as accurate as 246 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:30.039 we can and we do not sway into speculating. Okay, so this is 247 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:35.319 what we do. You were saying, how concerned we are. We are 248 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:39.920 very concerned. This is why at times I have said at the moment, 249 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:45.240 at the moment, we don't see a problem, but this is very precarious, 250 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.680 and somewhere saying well, but nothing is happening. You see what happened. 251 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.119 This is a combat zone in a combat zone. Any day, something 252 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.960 very very serious can happen. So I have the red card, I have 253 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.839 the yellow card, I have them ready in my hands. The thing, 254 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.039 the most important thing is that they see that the referee is there on the 255 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.599 pitch. Thank you, mister Grossi alam Bucati from news agency Rea oversty. 256 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:14.519 Do you mean that you won't be able anytime soon to define the perpetrator in 257 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.519 terms of the approach in nuclear problem, it depends on the circumstance. That 258 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:23.160 depends on the circumstance. The idea would not be in the business of hiding 259 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:29.759 anything. You know, this is very important when we see something in if 260 00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:35.400 we have evidence of something, we do not have a problem in reporting, 261 00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:40.279 but we have to be extremely measured in what we do. We know that 262 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:50.119 in a war there are certain operations. There are sometimes operations leading the observer 263 00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:54.400 to believe that something is happening in a certain sense while it is happening in 264 00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:00.799 a different sense. Intelligence operations and many other things, and voice of the 265 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.519 IEA is very important. The credibility of the IEA which applies to this, 266 00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:10.840 applies to Iran, applies to Korea, applies to applies to the Middle East, 267 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:15.840 applies to everything must be preserved. I am the guardian of this institution 268 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:22.320 and I have to measure the words so that when we put something on the 269 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:30.199 public domain, it's something that is concrete and proven comination. In case of 270 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.119 anything, well, it will depend on the magnitude of accident. It would 271 00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:39.239 depend. If there is a minor league, then it would be restricted to 272 00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:45.039 the perimeter. If it's something bigger, it could be regional. The thing 273 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:46.880 is, and this is what we have been saying. You don't want to 274 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.719 try. You don't want to run the risk of something that could have a 275 00:34:52.880 --> 00:35:02.320 very widespread effect that would affect and let's let us be reminded that radiation would 276 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:08.760 not respect borders or control territories. It would have a very wide, big 277 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:19.599 impact. Yes, sir, please Dennis Akchefta's news agency. Did you negotiate 278 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:39.320 with easy side mechanism of UHU of inspection and given in suspecting accountability mechanism? 279 00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:46.360 So how to Yeah, I understand your question accountability. No, I mean 280 00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:53.920 the the isam's mission and the five concrete principles that I established here a year 281 00:35:53.960 --> 00:36:00.760 ago indicate what should not be happening and says that we are going to be 282 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:06.159 monitoring that. We are not a tribunal if you want that would be attributing 283 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:13.280 you know, punishments or any anything of the sort. We are there informing 284 00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:21.599 providing a technical assessment. Sure, yes, thank you very much for taking 285 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.320 questions, mister grocer. Gabriel Alessandro from Al Jazeera English. Just a quick 286 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:29.559 clarification on your comment one of your comments to the council, you said, 287 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:34.639 just in the last couple of days, under the IAEA's suggestion, that all 288 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:39.079 six of the reactors are now in cold shut shut down. Can you explain 289 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.719 this significance. I know five were in cold shutdown, now that all six 290 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.159 are, what is the significance of that and why was the why did you 291 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:51.719 recommend that? Yeah, indeed, this is as I was partially explaining to 292 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.239 one of your clleagues. Now, this means that the reactors are operating at 293 00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:00.159 an extremely low level. They are not producing any energy or electricity or power, 294 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:07.599 which means that the temperature of the core is much much lower. So 295 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:15.880 in case if there was an attack or something that would compromise the physical integrity, 296 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:22.960 then the consequences would be easier to mitigate. It doesn't mean that there 297 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:29.480 wouldn't be consequences. It would be an easier crisis to be mitigated. The 298 00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:37.400 agency had been recommending advising the management of the plant to put this unit at 299 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.559 culture down like all the others. But this is an evolving situation. Let's 300 00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:50.719 see how it continues. Please access that you need and demand from the Russian 301 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.000 officials on site or not. I would say, by and large yes, 302 00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.159 But it's also true, and I have said it in some of my reports 303 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:07.760 that on occasion we haven't been given the access. What happens on some occasions, 304 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.280 and we do not have an element to assess whether this is justified or 305 00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.920 not. We have to accept what we are told. Sometimes we are told 306 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:20.800 that our teams cannot access a certain area. You know, the plant is 307 00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.920 a very huge site, that they cannot access this site because there is an 308 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:30.280 impending attack or something of the sort. And with this happens, of course, 309 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:37.480 my responsibility for my staff is that we should follow those instructions. But 310 00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:43.159 we are saying, we are asking constantly and saying, like I said again 311 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:47.079 today that for us to be giving an accurate impression of what is happening, 312 00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:54.920 we must have access to the entire site. Yeah, please, what are 313 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.800 you hoping to accomplish by traveling to Iran? You say you're going to travel 314 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:07.440 in the next Well, what I hope to accomplish is to get or to 315 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:15.159 put the situation, to help put it in a higher level of cooperation. 316 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:22.400 If I can put it like this, we are getting access which in my 317 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:29.039 opinion, could be much better. Let me remind you that again. A 318 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:32.840 bit more than a year ago, I went to Tehran and I signed a 319 00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:39.400 joint decoration with the Iranian government indicating a number of actions that we would be 320 00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:46.360 taking together with Iran beyond in addition to what we are already doing. We 321 00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:52.239 started that process and that process was interrupted, and I have been insisting, 322 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:57.280 I have been saying, we need to go back to that understanding we had 323 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.800 in March twenty twenty three. So I hope one of the issues that I 324 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:08.239 should be discussing with the Iranian government if I return soon, is how to 325 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:15.559 go back to that path of corporation and Ukraine any time soon? Yes, 326 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:20.719 yes, we need to Ukraine and Russia. As I have been doing since 327 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:27.280 the beginning. I will. And another point I stress is that we must 328 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:32.800 keep these channels of communication open. One of the pressures. Things about this 329 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:38.480 mission by the IEA is that we are talking to both. We keep both 330 00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:45.000 engaged and we try to make the most of the situation in spite of the 331 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:51.320 difficult circumstances. Not yet, but it will becomeing soon. I thank you 332 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.599 very much. It's always a pleasure to see you, and I will be 333 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:58.119 keeping you informed of any of any use. Thank you very much, have 334 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:13.480 a nice evening, bye bye by. In other updates from CNN, how 335 00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:22.360 about this one, NASA is rethinking a plan to return to Mars to retrieve 336 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:32.719 samples. The Perseverance Rover has been gathering specimens since twenty twenty one and to 337 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:38.719 help better understand life if there ever existed on the Red planet. And now 338 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:49.000 the Space Agency is solicting proposals for sample return mission with less complexity, costs, 339 00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:57.119 and just a chance to learn from what the Red planet has to tell 340 00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:02.280 us. Okay. On a more serious note, the Trump trial. Former 341 00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:08.320 President Donald Trump is set to return to a New York City courtroom for a 342 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:17.360 second day of jury selection continues in his criminal hush money trial. A total 343 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:24.079 of ninety six New Yorkers were brought in on Monday as perspective jurors fifty were 344 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:31.679 immediately dismissed when they said they couldn't be a fair They couldn't be fair and 345 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:40.239 impartial. With Swiss dismensal of prospective drury poll underscores the difficulty in finding a 346 00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:46.360 drury when a defendant is the former president who elicits that strong feelings on both 347 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:58.840 sides of the isle. Moving on funding, flight, Speaker Mike Johnson Monday 348 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:07.280 and the House take up separate bills this week to provide aid for Israel and 349 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.719 Ukraine, heating demands far from the right to keep the issue separate, as 350 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:20.679 the threat of a vote to oust him from the speakers looms in the wake 351 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:29.440 of Iran's unprecedented retaliatory strikes on Israel. Democrats have called on Johnson to bring 352 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:37.599 up a Senate passed foreign aid package that includes aid to Israel and Ukraine, 353 00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:52.400 but hardline conservative urge that the Louisiana Republican against attaching Ukraine funding to any Israel 354 00:43:52.519 --> 00:44:01.039 package aid and let's move on to the Baltimore Bridge. Federal authority have launched 355 00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:10.639 a criminal investigation into last month's ship crash that destroyed Baltimore's Franciscott Key Bridge. 356 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:17.519 And killed six people. According to a US official familiar with the matter, 357 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:24.320 the bridge collapsed on March sixteenth after a massive cargo ship lost power, feared 358 00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:30.679 of course, and struck the bridge. The ship owner and manager have since 359 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:37.079 filed a court document in an attempt to limit their financial liability. The FBI 360 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:45.639 and the US Coastguard are leading probes to determine rather the crew failed to report 361 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:52.039 an earlier issue with the ship that delayed its departure, the officials said. 362 00:44:52.199 --> 00:45:00.519 Also Monday, authorities confirmed the body of a fourth victim had been recovered from 363 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:16.360 the collapse. And moving on Rust sentencing, Hannah Goutez, read the Armor 364 00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:22.280 of the film Rust, was sentenced to eighteen months in prison Monday, the 365 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:30.199 maximum possible punishment. She was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter last month for the 366 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:40.159 twenty twenty one one set fatal shooting of cinematographer Helena Hutchins. The verdict comes 367 00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:51.280 two years after Hutchins was killed by a live round of musicians fired from a 368 00:45:51.440 --> 00:46:02.719 prop gun held by Alec Baldwin. And moving on to Tesla, Tesla is 369 00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:08.599 looking to cut ten percent of his global staff of one hundred and forty thousand. 370 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:19.760 The CEO Musk rote in an email to Tesla employees, must attributed the 371 00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:30.159 planned job cut to the need to cost reductions and increased productivity. According to 372 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:39.199 reports, this after Tesla recently announced a year over year decline in sales in 373 00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:45.840 the first three months of this year. It's such a drop since the height 374 00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:53.000 of the pandemic amid softer demand for electric car sector. Other automakers, including 375 00:46:53.360 --> 00:47:06.920 General Motors Forward, have also pulled back on their electric vehicle production. So 376 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:19.199 updates from CNN for would be April sixteenth, twenty twenty four. So final 377 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:22.519 thoughts and I want to thank you for listening to Depictions Media Radio here On 378 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:35.039 final thoughts, though, we do need to find peaceful solutions to things. 379 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:43.400 We need to stop the attacks. We need to slow down and think about 380 00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:46.000 what we're doing and the lives that are gonna be lost. We need to 381 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:55.280 think of all of our fellow human beings as equal fellow human beings and not 382 00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:02.760 just as human animals or something that is less than what we are. 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