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Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling a friend, Thanks
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all there, Matt from VTVS here. Matt has already suffered, uh this
this feeling, or has had this feeling. I guess I should say suffering
for two Mondays in a row. Yeah, but that one was one runs
you know, Yeah, it doesn't hurt as much as the other one for
me. Off by McDermott and that fake. What was he doing? Why?
Why tell me? Oh my god, you know what it is?
You wanted to get the element of surprise. Isn't that every fake to me?
That was over compensation, that was trying to show I'm I'm willing to
risk it all, I'm willing to go. But it was like from what
you're on the thirty seven there was nowhere to go. You weren't gonna get
me points. Yeah, well, tomar Hamlin, was time to rid of
that guy. You could have flipped the field there, you know, you
punt the ball, you get him down there. And then luckily they got
the turnover, so they got a turnover at the end, which you know,
I did see an argument on your favorite channel, Mark ESPN over whether
or not that should be a rule that it goes out, and you know,
I think it was Ryan Clark who goes, yes, it should be
the rule, because that is the holy grail. If the tip of the
ball gets over, it's a point. If you fumble it out the end,
yes, the balls should go to the other team because if they fumble
it anywhere else in the field that goes out of bounds, it remains in
the possession of the of the offensive team. Right. So that's how Dallas
lost to Miami. It's does Bryant or does Brant? Yeah, ceedee,
Lamb just fumbled going in the end zone and it went out and they got
touched back at the ball. They lost. Yeah, I mean, and
I kind of like it as a rule because that is sort of the holy
grail, right If we're gonna give it all this stuff that it just needs
to be the tip of the ball over there. I think that's just too
I think you need to get your ass in that out. I don't disagree.
The guys on kickoffs a lot of times too, if the ball's near
the sideline, they'll lay down on the ground, make sure their feet are
out of bounces, and then touched the ball. Then it counts as it's
out of bounce, right, exactly, exactly, that's the thing. But
I didn't realize. I thought it was all urban legend about the pit,
and I thought it was I asked Greg. Well, Greg got pissed when
you asked, or sounded annoyed. He's like, that's all bullshit. Remember
well, I am the video yesterday. Okay, all right, there you
go. And I've been seeing this thing about the pit. What the hell
is the pit? So do you remember the guy who got very very drunk
and he fell into a porta potty or dumped himself in the porta potty.
He was covered in human feces. He ran out, ran across the street
and jumped in the pit. Then they needed to get I think they had
him hook and ladder guys come and get them. I think they needed a
rescue team to pull them out. Then we've been hearing more and more stuff
on social media, but it didn't gain a lot of traction at least in
regular news. I guess we'll say because they weren't really paying much attention to
this. But there was a doctor who was saying, we got to stop.
More and more people are showing up. This is WIVB Channel four at
a Buffalo Good evening everyone. I'm Harley Tuscas. Bad news for Bill's fans
who believe in the power of the pit. The Erie County Sheriff's Office has
announced there will be added security surrounding the new stadium construction site at tomorrow's divisional
playoff game against the Chiefs. A spokesperson for the sheriff's office says fans seen
in the construction area will be charged with criminal trespass. So far the season,
they say ten people have been charged for being inside the construction zone at
six different games, including most recently at Monday's wild Card game against Pittsburgh.
And a statement Sheriff John Garcia says, quote, we all want to see
a Bills win on Sunday let's keep the focus on the field and out of
the parking lots. I want to ask Greg Connors about it. Let's see
if you flip wow, I don't know. He just got defensive, saying
that I don't know, it's not true happening. He didn't think it was
happening. We know the one guy. Now they're saying, ten, I
bet people are jumping in or anything. You're just seeing there. Well,
there was a video. Guess they have a guy jumping. My buddy would
not come over and start drinking until he saw a video of somebody jumping in
the pit. Oh soon as he said it to me, because I'm on
my way over. Yes, fucking stupid. I wonder why people don't like
Bill those fans. You know, I'm understand Cowboys fans are annoying. You
don't have to jump into a construct. I don't get how Cowboys fans are
annoying. But the Bills fan jumping into the pit to me is funny.
It's like it's an idiot. Tables and are on fire. I mean,
why is this a surprise? Then, well it's not. It shouldn't be
surprised. Is this the video of the guy video alright, let's see.
Yeah, there's the guy. He's on top of a snow bank and he's
in there and he's got oh, and he just looks like he disappears off
the snow bank. Okay, so he could have hopped off it, not
into the pit. But either way, it looks it looks legit. It
looks like there's something there. I very deep there because you can still see
his held oh when he jumped and he's trying to get it out before the
you can see him it's gonna be there and you can see him get to
him. Well, look if the I think they won the game after the
guy who dunked himself in the porta potty and was on LSD or whatever else
he was on and then ran across the street and jumped in. I think
then after that people will oh, this is a good idea. So it
became sort of a silly bit. And now why they skipped the porter ike
come to do it? Do it right. I don't know how that guy
he had to get some kind of hepatitis shot or something. I gotta think
was he Canadian? I don't know. I'm thinking you must have been They
talked to fans leaving the game yesterday, and former Buffalo Bill's guard Ruben Brown,
first round pick in nineteen ninety five, who then went on to play
for Chicago. I think he did thirteen seasons, right, total. Yeah,
he had a pretty good career. Uh here here he's the first one.
He sounds a little drunk. Upset. I'm a former guy, and
I'm upset because we were excited about the team and the potential and what they
have. And you know, it's heartbreaking, It's really heartbreaking, all right.
Ruben Brown was a party fucking animal. When he might have been in
that suite with Jason Kelsey because he was a little hammered. Ruben Brown yesterday.
When they used to give him, I don't I won't say what company,
but they gave him an r V and he would stay I don't know.
They gave him an RV and he would have it a training camp and
they would say that when they would get the r V there via all these
like cos is a fucking mess. Rubin got voted to the Pro Bowl every
year because he threw a huge party in Hawaii, like everybody loved so they
would always vote Ruben because he would make he would have the party that was
That was the story that I kept hearing about all the time. And he
rode his motorcycle around. He was he was a big yeah. And that's
how we heard all these stories about Ruben and all the all the stuff.
So there's Ruben. Then there's some other fans like Kansas City didn't win that
game. The Bills let them have it. I mean, just another burnt
year, another year down the tubes, another year could have sh is and
and and uh and here we are again having questions about why not I came
to this game, these two we need to sacifiction the PA and like they
were going to pull it off. Yeah we didn't. We didn't. Oh
well, it's crap. The Chiefs won the game. You can't say the
Bills let them win the Chiefs. I'm not saying that the the the Bills.
I think the Bills beat themselves. I don't think the Chiefs won it.
I think that had this gone, had he kicked here, it's what
would have been a more satisfying ending to me. Bass gets it into overtime,
it wouldn't have been over to all right, Yeah, that is a
lot more than thirteen seconds. I'm in my head because it was a kneel
down after kneel down right after this. But uh, I think that if
if they march down the field and score, then you go, then it
feels like they won. I feel like in this one there was such I
mean, where did Stefan digs go? He is? Where did he useless
second catch Senator Dallas with his brother he used? I mean it was like,
where did he go? He had twenty three yards targeted a couple of
times, but for a total of twenty three yards that was all I would
be. I'd be standing there yelling at him like he did to him last
And that was a beautiful throw if you look. There was a there was
a meme today that showed the last ten games of him and Shaker and they
have the same amount of receiving yards. But he has eighty targets against thirty
seven for the other guy. Yeah, and he's he's averaged forty one yards
in the last ten games per game. Is terrible. And they even tried
to get him in with a running play. They got him involved in the
game. I mean he dropped that pass. It passed. He doesn't drop
that stuff. No, I feel like McDermott's lucky that bast messed that,
because if Kansas City marches down the field again on them, oh last minutes
of a game, right out, he should be out of a chop now,
all right. But see now I'm not so sure about that, because
here's why he did a hell of a coaching job. On that defensive side.
They are bad up and down to nobody, and he really did.
I mean, through the last six games, you got to admit, I
mean, this thing has been held together by fucking duct tape. You got
to play. I understand the next man up. But look at New England.
How many no name guys that they have on their defense, and they
were always in the top five third third divisional playoff they lost. Hey,
look in this one. To me, I feel like you'll never get past
Kansas City. You wanted them that home. You got him at home.
You got him at home. You were right there, you were in it
the entire game. It's Martin, It's Marty Schottenheimer all over again. They're
turning. Allen is turning into Philip Rivers, and Alan is not Philip Rivers.
I don't I hope that's like seven kids behind. If he is.
I don't know, it depends on what. Yeah, I feel like he's
I don't. I don't feel I think that if he had an offense and
I said this before and everybody kind of was like, if he had an
offensive coach like Andy Reid, he would be he would it would be better.
I mean, he took that team and he well, the problem is
it becomes like a Brahma ball when he puts the rent on his back.
I mean, there's nothing else that that guy did it all yesterday. He
did everything he possibly could six games. He really did. But to your
point, because you look at it the other way, look on the other
side, right, Josh had how many attempts yesterday? Thirty nine, twenty
three or thirty nine, somewhere in that range. I'm not getting it exact.
I think. I think if you looked at Mahomes, what was he
twenty three for seventeen for twenty seventeen nine something? But it wasn't basically what
it is. It wasn't all on him, wasn't all there were other guys
Chelsea's I mean, right, there were just other guys that were doing things.
Throw to Shakir in the end zone, Holy shit, that was amazing.
Across your body. You put that ball where only he can get it.
That was amazing. And that's my whole point. We are he's twenty
seven years old. He is being wasted because of mcdermom needs to go.
All right, well, let me ask let me so I have uh I
have watched the last Dance the Chicago Bulls thing, probably about five times every
once in a while. Just watch it. And Doug Collins was the first
coach with Michael Jordan, and he ran everything through Michael and they didn't get
anywhere. And then they brought in Phil Jackson, and granted they did get
some other players, but it was something about the coach taking an all you
know, basically using other guys in the team, and it was a different
coach and that seemed to get him over the edge. And I don't know,
you mean to tell me if Jim Harbaugh was to come to Buffalo,
Alan wouldn't Allen's. It would be mcdermot's a defensive guy. He doesn't know,
he doesn't have a relationship with Alan, he hasn't. I feel like
this Brady kid's done well. He's done well. He interviewed for the head
coaching position in Atlanta. Yeah, I don't see. I don't think he's
going to get change your head. Coach's gonna help. I got I was
busy. I mean, they need to get him another receiver. You're looking
at it. No, I'm trying. What I'm trying to say is Andy
Reid. He is an offensive He's always been offensive. And you have a
quarterback like Mahomes, like Allen, and you have a defensive defensive coach,
you kind of lose a little bit of you lose a little bad. Maybe
that's how I see it. Yeah, I mean you could be the Das.
Let me ask you. You have to have a very good offensive mind
working with you. And so McCarthy is an offensive guy. And we were
great on defense for the first few weeks this year, but then it went
to the hole and you saw it in the playoffs how bad they were.
Did you want McCarthy out? I did you? Who would you want?
Somebody like Harball? But it's never gonna happen with Jerry. That's the problem.
You think it's a Jerry thing. Yeah, supposedly he reached out to
Belichick and Belichick turned him down. So real, that's the rumor. He
really yeah, I had. I was wondering if he was going to end
up with the Eagles. I really, for some reason surprised that didn't happen.
I am too. There's a lot of talent there. I don't think
he turned him down. That that is the the I haven't read that.
I would think the un Atlanta just doesn't have a quarterback unless they think they're
gonna get one. But they don't even have the number one overall pick.
I think he might. I think he might sit out of here really or
the other thing I'm I'm I've heard rumblings of is that, with McCarthy being
on a one year essentially with no extension, you bring Bill as a senior
advisor. I think game that's two games in a row and they fire him.
Here you go, Bill. I mean Parcels turned that franchise around,
and don't forget Belichick's at Parcels guy. I think Parcels would probably tell him,
you don't want to work for Jerry. Really, he's a medaler.
He's gonna he's gonna take all the credit. He's going to pick your players.
You know. Parcells is the guy that said, Hey, if I'm
going to do the cook and I need to do the shopping. God,
he did have some control over the the team there. And then Jerry went
and signed Tree Owens and that was the end of Bill Parcells. So I
feel like Belichick and he won't go to there. But they did say today
they'd like to see Belichick go to Buffalo. I heard that. I thought,
holy ship, what a way to stick at the new parcels. But
then again, coach in with no offense at all. He's always had good
offensive minds with him. Yes, but I mean, well, look Joe
Brady. Recently, I thought I like Brady. I do too. I
thought he's done a hell of a job. I think he has, Yes,
yes, yes, But also I think Alan's lucky to have him.
You saw what happened in the beginning of it was it was almost a one
nice match whatever it seemed to work. Whoever Bill goes, Josh Partanda's right
behind him. Here is some fans leaving bars. Just listen to this news
report. This is from Channel two in Buffalo. Yeah, Adam, you
know I could say this is a sad No, this isn't an upsetting night
for a lot of Bills fans. You know, a lot of the fans
walked out of these bars. Here words that I cannot say on air,
But what I yes, what did you say? I thought it was inew.
Sounds like one of the drug guys, all right, So you go
there they're uttering words. I can't say a DV and say to you is
that this has been a nail biting game from start to finish, and it's
safe to say that how all of us are feeling. Bills fans are not
happy at all now. So instead of braving the code at the stadium,
some fans decided to watch the game from nearby bars. Chipwall always hosts parties
for Bills games, and fans are on the edge of their seats at the
start of the game and stayed there until the last ninety seconds. With that
missed field goal, fans started very hopeful and optimistic that Bills would come out
on top this year. But now the Buffalo Bill's missed out on the AFC
Championship against Baltimore. But here's what a few fans had to say, Anthony,
how do you feel about the Bills game? Tragic? Just tragic.
The Bills can't get it done. The Chiefs just I guess own the Bills
at this point, but tragic. I don't know how you missed that feel
going curses, touching for home. I are in the concert. Yeah,
I'm like biting her nails in the how you felt this whole season went up
and down? I mean I was just saying, I think with my heart
was you know, I needed to stuff. She's got her karma, Taylor
Swift. It means nothing. She had a karma Taylor Swift with a Josh
Allen like in the center it says karma was now It's it's like that didn't
made well right? Borrow was that you could sense? I think the Bills
fans knew something was gonna happen because everybody started paying their building about ten minutes
to go in the fourth quarter, and as soon as that kick missed,
it was like a fucking train out the door. Either wait like extra fifteen
minutes to get it. It was like the air went out of the place.
Yesterday I left, I got the funk out of there. Everybody just
bolt a few of the stuff there and you know, drank their stors away.
Yeah, I mean I feel bad for Bills fans. First, she
dealt with the Brady for all those years, and now you got to do
with my homes. Yeah, it's like you can't six years, six conference
championship games. It's unbelievable, in credible. It sucks that we never had
a quarterback during the Breedy years. That's true. We have this quarterback,
yes, and no one knows what the fuck they're doing them. Well,
I got you gotta take some blame on the defense too. Yeah, man,
I mean, but you guys, I'm not playing told Miami fans they
weren't allowed to use the injury excuse, but you guys are using it a
lot today. He was missing a lot more than you know. But again,
the defense I don't think well. By the way, was the Kansas
City lost some starters during the game yesterday? This was your chance, This
was the chance. To me, they had the weaker out of all the
years that he's gone to the playoffs. Right, he doesn't have a number
one receiver. No, that's goodness guy. Yes? And then running and
what's his name? That running back is incredible? He's a monster check seventh
checko? Is that what it was? Yeah? Because I was gonna put
him down to for an any time score in my bets and I go I'm
not even doing it, and I should have. I guess I should make
yourself feel better. I want to know, is Josh everage four point eight
yards of pass yesterday a completion? Yeah? That's that doesn't get it done?
No, No it doesn't. Yeah that No, they had no plays
over twenty you you didn't and I don't under and he had. He threw
a beautiful bomb normally where he connects with Stephan. That's where I questioned,
fucking McDermott. It's like you all of a sudden changed the game plan.
All of a sudden, You're like going back five years ago and you're just
throwing five yards, you know, five yards. The guys are dropping past,
the guys dropping passes. That was an easy touchdown twelve thirteen yards.
And then the one where he got what's his name in the spects Matt Yeah,
yeah, and it just didn't. I feel I just feel bad.
I just feel bad for him because, you know, the thirteen second game,
what more was he supposed to do? You know what I mean?
You know what I mean? Yeah, he can't. He can't play defense.
Yesterday? Did he not hit the guy underneath over the middle instead of
trying to the right because they could have gotten easy first down, yeah,
going there, and they could have killed the clock and been about a twenty
yard field. I think it was. It was digs over, yeah,
And I think that's what a lot of people wonder. If he lost contract.
You could have ran that clock right down because they only had two timeouts
left. You could have tried, you could have tried to score a touchdown.
A lot of things could have happened differently. I don't know. I
think the losses I knew for being selfish. Ones didn't want to all by
yourself, and I did. I wanted Matt. Why did I just feel
like I was so glad I wasn't out all went down? Yeah, but
I just and which sounds terrible, right, You're a bar owner. I
shouldn't be saying I wanted to be home for this one. That's not right.
Yeah, no, but but I sometimes I want to be home.
I can't. Yes, But it was just in that moment, I'm like,
I I go, yeah, and I did. And there were times
they needed to distract myself a little bit, so I did some laundy.
I did not rub anything, but I was like, yeah, all right,
well, well we'll take a moment. Anybody want to hear what Greg
Connors has to say? Absolutely, who doesn't want to Bunny to say?
And I want to know he's a former player. I want to know.
I want to know about the Uh. I want to know about what you
know. Dallas's next plans are too because this is wor screwed you think so,
because I'm afraid down, I'm afraid Buffalo is with the cap. We're
we're going to extend Dak, which is going to be terrible thing in the
years to come. But he's another one. It's probably not all his fault,
but he takes he takes all the blame on that team. Quarterback everything,
quarterback explain for everything. Yeah, well it's worse leader, Yes it
is, you guys. I see everybody defending Josh. Yeah. I was
the first one to bash Dak after last week, So all right. Uh.
Meanwhile, BTV coming up on the last week of January, the three
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You need to clean out your sinuses. That's the one. What's in
the box? What is in the box? He told me? What is
it? Pizza? What's on there? Like? Is it like a Mexican
pizza? Yeah? Taco sauce. Believe or not. They used to I
don't know if they were big where you were, but they used to have
the frozen ones in school here and there. Everybody loved them, you know,
I guess you know. School lunches are great. To the garbage plate
pizza. Last night was awesome. You had a garbage pizza? Is that
the one? You guys know? That's that one? Is that one?
Oh? Yeah? How good? It was? Fringing awes. Yeah.
So, and then I would assume, how tell me this? Just I
just had that curiosity. I know, February specials are already done or March
just being worked on already. I'm sure she is. Yeah, she just
gave me February's their day. That's she hides from. It's it's unreal what
you guys come up with, Honest to god, It is a culinary you
know, extravaganza over there. It really is because it's called bt B Wood
Fired Pizza and Grill. But it's so much more than the wood fired pizza.
The stuff is. It's very impressive. We'll see next month. By
the way, the French pizza. Oh really, that's an interesting yeah,
but just to shareable the trip chips three way, I didn't share. It's
in the bag either way. The chips. You had him last week?
Yes, I did. I I devoured the entire thing. I tried to
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How are you? We're checking on friends today just to make sure that
they're still still with us. Shut up. Been a long, exhausting,
hiring, frustrating, agonizing day. That was just climbing out of the pit.
Yeah the pit. Well, Greg, I feel like and I don't
want to get you all riled up again, but I want to get you
all riled up again. The passion is is wanted. They had the Chiefs
at home. This is what they wanted. They had a team that it
wasn't near the offensive juggernaut it's been over the past couple of seasons. They
had the Chiefs losing two defensive starters during the game, both early. They
had Josh Allen I think playing an elite game. I thought, Josh,
we played elite and don't. I don't know where Stefan Diggs went. And
I feel like that that fake punt was over compensation. It was McDermott trying
to prove to everybody that he was was I don't know, willing to aggress.
Yeah, be aggressive, whatever it took, do whatever it took.
But there were no there were no points imminent, there there were no you
know what I'm saying. It just felt it felt pointless. Yeah, it
was almost that that decision seemed to be like him wanting to prove that he
was as passionate and he was as committed to win that game as any fan
or anybody who's ever been a Bill's lover, and he wanted to show that
he was willing to put it all on the table and be aggressive. He
didn't want to be accused of of leaving something out there, not doing everything
he had in his playbook to win that game. I really, you know,
to me on that, I'm indifferent on that. I mean, ultimately
worked out for us. I would I have done it? No, I
wouldn't have done it. When he went for it, I was like,
what the hell are you doing? But I could see what he wanted.
He wanted to keep some momentum. And now for me is and this is
part of preparation and business and life and coaching. If you're of that mindset
to make that decision. You got to make that decision not during the game,
but in preparation for the game. Because if that's a decision and its
third down in your mind, you've got two downs to go five dollars.
So coach it that way. He didn't coach it that way. That's the
thing for me that I get frustrated by, because those decisions don't seem to
be thought out, they don't seem to be planned. They seem to be
more of a spontaneous kind of emotional thing. And look, that's my job.
That's what I do in the fan. I'm spontaneous and emotional, not
the freaking head coach. I yeah, I mean as a leader, you're
right. You don't want to be You want to be able to make decisions,
stand by your decision. You know, whether people agree with it or
not. You made a decision and we see how things go. But sometimes
if they're emotional, and it did, it felt like this was over compensation
to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really did. When I saw
that, I was like, yeah, but what happened to Stefan Diggs.
I mean, there's no place really over twenty yards for the Buffalo Bills,
and Josh threw beautiful balls. And then there was another time, as Matt
pointed out that over the middle, Stefan was open, but it was almost
as like Josh just didn't trust him to catch the ball. Would you trust
this? No? I mean, he made this most phenomenal catch five years
ago, first six years ago. Now for the vikings that put him in
like folklore, NFL folklore. He had an opportunity and this catch wasn't nearly
as diff coach. He didn't high point it. He tried to catch it
over the top. I mean, look you, when I coached young football,
we always talk about high pointing the football where I coached. When I
coached the defensive back when I was in college, it's all about hide pulling
the ball. Did Stefan Diggs high point that ball? No? It hit
him in the goddamn forearm. He's supposed to be your number one guy.
Josh Allen threw an eighty yard pass on a freaking rope and threw the ball
exactly where he should have, just like they do on the freaking Madden Game.
It's step on Diggs. They hit him in the fucking forearm. Are
you kidding me? Maybe he would have been twenty yards short. But I
mean watching that game, I mean the throat of Shakira in the end zone
that only where he could get it, like on TV from the angle,
I wasn't sure that he did catch it. And then they showed the other
angle because I think the Chiefs players jumped up waving it off like it wasn't
it was in complete pass. He got it and it was right there.
I was like, God, damn, that was called out yesterday. Yeah,
josh Man definitely. Look. I mean that's the thing about Josh in
terms of his throws. And again I hadn't rewatched the film yet. I
don't watch the game yet, which I normally do, just because it hurts
so much. Because the run that they won at the end of the year,
you know, people were like, I was meant to be. This
was our year we had that. You know. The thing that I loved
about the run we went on is that this team overcame adversity. I mean,
the guy that they had playing for on defense, they were like third
and fourth on the depth chart comeing out of training camp back in Audius.
Someone weren't even concentlated and they came in and contributed when you had a team
and you have a system that you can bring guys in and you can play
at this playoff level caliber and then and win the game? Are you kidding
me? And pull the freak didn't show up day? Are you kidding me?
He needs to go to Dalla's brother. What is he does? You
know what cut that from him? If he was like the huge salary cap
pit. You know there's so many you know, Von Miller, how can
you dump Von? We can't even dump Vaughan right now because the salary cap
pit, I'm like those store players, is it really? Sorry? Looking
at it today and I think if you cut Diggs it's thirty because someone he
was putting an option of saying move on from Vaughn and go get a receiver,
and I didn't see the set. The salary cap hit for him is
twenty three all the salary cap hit. The salary cap pit for like,
it was like Vaughn and Toloyer and hide Diggs was like and Josh Josh is
in that as well, not that I would do anything with Josh at all.
Is something like fifty percent of the salary cap for next year I'm like
five players because VO was front loaded. I thought, and this is the
third year of that five year and I think this is the big year.
Yeah. If you cut von Miller right now, cost you thirty two thousand
dollars or thirty million dollars. Yeah, thirty one million to cut digs.
Wow. Yeah, Josh can that's terrible. And John, the thing is
is like, you can't trade him because what the fuck got take him?
He shocked and shocked this year off well, and then all of a sudden
he freaking couldn't catch it cold the last three months. I did fire I
did fireball for Greg. I tried. Yeah you did. Yeah, he
did do the fireball. I appreciate it. Talk to me about a about
Okay, let's go to the coaching side of things right there. We've had
a lot of discussions about McDermott throughout the season with you. There were some
times you felt like he was making calls that just weren't there time out,
You not using timeouts properly. I think he's done. I think he coached
his ass off at least since that Tyler Dunn article came out. I'm only
using that as a line of demarcation because it felt like after that things changed.
He came out, he answered questions that were uncomfortable. And to your
point, I think when you go that deep on the depth chart, I
know every player at that level you gotta be. I always think, how
good do you have to be to suck at the NFL? Right, You've
got to be really unbelievable. But these guys, I mean, look,
aj Klein is on his couch, comes in, fits into a system.
Granted he's familiar with it, but he leads the team in tackles and there's
McDermott right cheering him on and doing the thing. I thought he coached his
ass off at the end. But is he the right coach going forward in
your opinion? And I say that based on a different sport. But you
look at Doug Collins with the Chicago Bulls and then we go to Phil Jackson
and it was almost like that change got him over the hump. I don't
know. I don't know if it was that change that got him over the
hump. I think I think, honestly, Greg, I think it was
more moving the ball around, to taking it out of Michael Jordan's hands instead
of putting it all on Mike trying to get other guys involved so that way
Mike could then do what he does. But when it was Doug Collins,
everything Michael was, Michael was not Michael until Scotty. You know, Josh
Allen has got to find his Scottie. We thought it was Stefan Digg.
Stefan Digg had an opportunity yesterday to be Scottie, and you know what,
he wasn't and he just hasn't been. And that to me, if I
learned one thing from these last six games, seven games of the Buffalo Bills,
if Stefan Diggs is not the guy, he's not your number one who
could go in and change the game because he's too inconsistent. You can't drop
in all seriousness, if you're that number one, if you're a Hall of
Fame receiver, if you're that guy, you don't drop the ball that Josh
Allen threw you at the end of the game. Eighty yards on a rope
will't hit you right where your hand should be. But because he goes up
with the wrong technique, he freaking hits his four arms. I mean,
that kind of shit to me is like you have such aspirations. You hope
that he's your Jerry Rice or you hope that you know he's your your Andre
Reid, but in the end, he isn't that guy. Now. Unfortunately,
because you make the commitment to him, you can't you can't dump him
right now because it just it impacts the team too much. Now, the
question is how do you manage that? How do you manage that? Because
one of the things that I liked about Diggs earlier this year is that he
was pissed because he wanted to win, and he was vocal about it,
and he was adamant about it. He's throwing his hands, he's getting in
Josh's space, he's getting there. Well, shit, you know what,
and we talked about this before. You can do that, and you need
that, but then you gotta show up because right now, I mean obviously
the last game of the year and they're done, but god damn it,
I would be in freaking step on Stace and be like, are you fucking
kidding? Are you kidding me? You want to all of us to be
at that level and we don't want to be there with you, and then
we put it on you and you don't show up. No, way man,
that just doesn't rise. And by the way, if you're not going
to show up and you had that chance, you gotta build it. I
don't trust you anymore. You got to build that trust up. You got
to come up with those catches time and time again so I can trust you.
He hasn't done that. That is hard frenching to me because I want
to love stuff on DIGG. I want him to be that guy. And
he let me down. He failed me and the entire bill freaking mafia,
and damn at that suck. Well. What was it two years ago where
he stood on the field and watched Kansas City celebrate in the thirteen second game
and he had his hands on his helmet and then and everybody was going on,
what a competitor, what a guy? What of this? You're right?
And then earlier this season he was talking all kinds of stuff. He
just is he injured possibly that we don't know about. He's lazy as fuck,
you think so, he's a lazy piece of shit. There is something,
there is something about him, There's something that's gone on, yes that
I don't know what it is. Again, I don't know if it's an
injury. I don't know if it's work ethic. I don't know what it
is, but there's something, you know, him being in France and wearing
all that goofy at back, yeah are you Yeah? And he came in
the the last game in some oversized sweater that looked like, uh, somebody's
grandmother ran out of yarn, so she takes a different colors on. I
don't know, but yes, I see what you're saying. But I mean,
wasn't it just a couple of years ago that we went He would have
had the greatest catch we had seen in a game, except that maybe it
was against the Chiefs. They made one guy made an even better catch where
it was a one handed grab and I forget it was actually justin Jafferson with
a bike. Yes, ye, yes, that's what it was. That
was right. But he was there, right, I mean, he was
showing up. That's the thing is where did he go? What what happened?
Where did he go? Well? For me, you know, And
it's like in any profession, it's focused. It's focused in discipline and preparation.
You know, it's like what are you doing going into it? Where
you put yourself into the situation that you just if you can't think about stuff
in those situations. It's pure instinct. You know, how you jump,
how you go, how do you do all that? That's all instant,
and it's all about your preparation going into it. It's physical preparations, not
of preparation. It's repetition. You know. I've inspired his writ in some
respect. I think he's resting on his laurels that he is above. He's
this phenomenal talented athlete who can catch a football, and he didn't work hard
enough at his trade, at his skill these last I mean, I'm going
to say eight weeks, but it could have been in preparation over the summer
when it's floating around in France and in Paris all that time. But you
know, but but to me, for him and anybody, it's you know,
Gave Davis. Gave Davis has not evolved as a route runner. He's
been with his team now for four years, five years. He hasn't built
his trade, he hasn't built his skill set that now he is a great
route runner, and he's not consistent with his pass catching. These are the
things as they as they think back to it, the bill should have woman
got don't get me started about special teams. Right, we talked about special
teams. With all these injuries, with all this ship could we got going
up, the Bills had a chance to send the game in the overtime in
freaking tea mass team dial ball. Why I say overtime too. These guys
correct me and said there was what was there Matt at forty seven? But
either way, Greg would not. Let's say they still lost. I don't
know why. I feel like they would have earned it more had Mahomes and
he they were. They were marching down the field pretty easily, but it
would have earned it more. How windy was it? Was it windy at
that end zone? Well, the wind the wind going back on, Yeah,
the wind going into that tunnel does have because of the tunnel effect has
a weird effect on that wind. It just always has. Scotty nor Wood,
you know, all those guys always had issues going on into the tunnel.
That wasn't no, but Scott went back. That wasn't man matches game
man. That was below the belt. That was And back then I was
giant, I was gianting. I still lived down there. I still believe
I was at a party drinking blue whale. I'm still crying for last week,
you know. And now the thing is is that I don't know if
the wind, if the wind did it or not, or you just hit
it bad. I won't looked like it was going dead on. And the
next thing it was like, well literally is to the right a little bit
at the end. It looked like the wind grabbed it. He's had to
shut his Instagram down. We're getting threats, somebody Jesus Christ. I did
like to ail and embraced him after the game going into the what is though?
Cool kicked him in the ass and he dropped it. So I guess
we go next season, right Greg? I mean, look, I'm so
tired right now. I'm so exhausted. I mean I am physically, I
am emotionally just drank. I can't even fucking think about training camp. I
can't think about even the draft. The thing that's funny to me is there
was a point this season where we thought they may not even make the playoffs.
They were six and six. Yeah, dude, I always I always
don't think. I always had that. Craig never thought that. I always
had that. So I always had the feeling they're gonna make the playoffs.
I always did, always had that soft though. Anybody loses, anybody that
loses to the past this year didn't deserve being the playoffs because they suck.
So you're right there. But you know, I mean, after going through
you know, it's like today, somebody comes into my office and I'm I
literally I was like exhaust and uh and it's like, you know, the
the emotional commitment and I'm a goddamn stupid fan. I mean, I'm just
a goddamn fan. I'm like, I feel like I played the game.
My back hurt, my knee, my head hurt. I get it.
I'm like my eyes were tired. Hang on, Hang on a second from
the top rope, here comes Kevin is that employees still employed. That's pretty
good, all right. On a on a much more of my partners,
on a much lighter note, on a pop culture note, did you see
Taylor? Taylor was where our suite was. Taylor was down around the corner.
I mean I didn't see her individually. What this is. This is
what I this is what drives me nuts about certain people. So Haley Steinfeld
was there, Okay, that's Josh Alby knows it. Girlfriend, you know.
I mean, she's no Taylor Swift, but if she wanted to,
she could become that. Maybe. I don't know. She counted Jesus A
right. She shows up, nobody knows, there's no entour rize, there's
no there's no shuttle her going through the fans and then all these policemen around.
Her suite is in the hundred level with Josh and his parents. That's
right there. No, And what I understood, what what I was told,
what the discussion was earlier in the week when I got my update about
things, is that remember when Damar Hammond was last year in the old administration
building, yea, when Dumar was in for the very same game against the
Bengals, and they showed him in the suite. So that building is actually
detached from the from the from the stadium. It's about there's about fifty feet
between the administration building in the backside of the two hundred level, okay,
and you and you can get to that entry because of the players entrances on
the backside of the stadium. It's a very private area. It's a restricted
area in terms of traffic. Where she would come in with the car.
She could drive right up to the backside of it and nobody would see it,
and she could go into she could go into the into the suite and
nobody would even know she's there. No, no, no, no,
no, no, she doesn't do that. She takes a freaking suburban.
She drives it inside the perimeter of the stadium. Are you atting kidding me?
She drives through all the all the fans as they're coming into the game.
And then where did she park? She her suite and where the band
park for the suburban park was right outside the main entrance, right off at
it Jim Kelly Boulevard. Are you year, Greg Well? I wonder Now,
do you think it's possible she was asked because it was She's so popular
that people would be I'm only saying that. Here. Here's an interesting thing,
Greg, I have an eleven year old niece. All of a sudden,
my phone rings, it's my brother. I open it up. It's
FaceTime. It's not. It's my eleven year old niece skating on the pond
and goes, oh, uncle Bill. By the way, I'm rooting for
Kansas City because I love Taylor Swift and you know, right, so it's
every little girl. Then we see Kelsey's brother hold up the eight year old
girl with the sign from Penfield outside the you know, and I just think
that she's such a pop icon, which you know. I wonder if they
almost asked her to come in and make a seaton. I'm wondering. I
don't know. I don't know. They did not, the Buffalo Bills did
not ask her to do that. Okay, all right, I believe that.
And then the pit, the pit is becoming a big and big thing.
I thought it was urban legend, but then Channel fourhead we've had ten
arrest and then people yesterday. I don't know if they're actually jumping in.
We saw somebody jump off of snow banking ass head the other side. But
this idea of even getting in there, it is trespassing. I mean maybe
for safety purposes. It's a good thing that the season's ended. I don't
know. Oh my god, I think that's hilarious. I think that sub
is that sub is is so funny. I mean, it's the most ridiculous
funny thing. It's like it's like us doing freaking shots the firebubb before the
game. I mean, it's just this childish, funny, goofy thing that
crazy people like me, they got mental health issues, do just fu Will
they have a pit now at the new stadium? They should? But this
is this is what I'll tell you. That new stadium, like the all
the accouterments of that stadium, with the canopy over top of that upper deck,
it will extend out to only the lower two thirds of the lower bull
would be it would have been exposed to the snow that drop all the fans
and that upper three hundred level would have been under the canopy. So no
snow, no rain, no wind. All of the enjoyment and the fan
experience, and that new stadium for a game this late year is gonna be
phenomenal. The other thing about it is the fucking kick that tea bass totally
pushed. Yeah, whatever the hell just missed it. The wind won't be
there. There's gonna be no internal wind like that that will take have any
effect on the ball because of the exterior the shell of it will have these
perforations, so when the wind comes in, it actually disperses in terms of
a circulation flow as opposed to a tunnel flow. And then it's a three
sixty stadium, so there will be no Yeah, yeah, I can see
ye physics wise, after the performing chest day, which bills are coming to
shovel your drive right in the next snow storm, and will you paid that
this is what we dot Tyler Tyler, Tyler bats In my opinion, I
figured you'd have the dog should yeah, Tyler, you know, And the
thing is that kicking that that position is such a head game that when when
you get to the point where he is, and you know, last week,
last week's warm up here we were in early we were watching him and
he was horrible. Last week. He couldn't kick a freaking field goal into
that win in that stadium. I mean, it was it was horrendous.
I don't know, but somebody had said that he was going to be the
X factor of the game because he's not been great the last few weeks.
Well, I was saying special teams for me. This week it was look
for me. Offense was solid, the defense, you know, the defense
was banged up. But you know, I figured Nick Drummer would have a
decent game plan to keep this team, to keep them in the game.
But the thing that worried the most was special teams. That was the X
factor. That was the thing that you just it was so inconsistent this year
that you just don't know. But if there's three fast to the game and
then what again, wasn't it that the team kick that lost the games?
You no, you know, but but you in order to win games and
you're in the final, you know, final fourteens in the AFC, Final
eight teams in the NFL, you got to have everything going on the same
level, and they just didn't do it. Now, I do believe that
the special teams coach is going to get fired again. I don't know who's
going to come in, but I do believe he's gonna get fired because somebody's
got to be accountable for that. And I don't think Joe Brady comes back
as the offensive coordinator. Really, you've heard it here, Okay, yeah,
I don't even coming back as the offensive coordinator. He was. I
know he interviewed for the head coaching position in Atlanta, but a lot of
people have uh so, who would you like to see in that position?
Well, I I'm not sure who is out there or how that's going to
go, but I just you know, although I thought Joe Brady did a
great job at the end of the year, I mean, look, he
brought it, man, he did all he did, He got the offense
back going. They won game, right, but the end of the year,
I mean every game they won was a playoff caliber game. Well,
those games are different. They played those games different in the NFL in terms
of intensity and level than they do in that September October game. And I
don't think Joe Brady, I don't think he possesses that skill set and play
calling yet where he's got to utilize you know, he's got to get a
number one receiver into the game and use them. He didn't do that with
Dave. Why because Zigs didn't put himself to be a number one. You
know. I thought he did a good job with Shakir. I thought he
did a good job with Dalton. The running game I thought was good and
strong, but they used Josh a lot to get those numbers. I don't
know if I just don't think I just don't think Brady good enough at the
end of the year to say we're going to give you the confidence of this
offense going into next year. Because look, McDermott, I don't want to
say he's on a short leash right now. He's done phenomenal things with his
team. But the question is going to become after next year and they don't
make that run and they aren't that one or two seed again. I mean,
look, we were the number two seed. Are you freaking kidding?
We're the number two seeds? Jesus Christ. That's a freaking hell of accomplishment.
If we don't have that same expectation now for next year and you miss
and you don't get to it, you know, that's when things start to
really shake up. I do think mcdermany's going to bring a defensive coordinator in.
I think he's going to have to in order to kind of balance and
manage the team. As that CEO, Ron Rivera. You know, there's
there's some connections with Rivera too. I would love I would love to see
Rivera command. And the other thing about Rivera is that his you know,
his aggressiveness and style of defense and very stilma Sean. I got to tell
you, I thought Sean did a phenomenal job with the defense this year.
When you look at the defense, when you look at the injuries if you
will, he had to bring in and the way that they played it.
And again I haven't checked out. I don't want the film yet to see
how he played Kelsey, you know, in terms of the old restewal,
you know with Rasteal Douglas and did they bracket, did they go high low?
Did they go side to side with him? I didn't get a chance
to review the film yet on that, but I thought make German did a
great job this year calling the defense. The question is, you know,
being a demon as a coordinator and running the whole show and being a CEO.
Right, all right, well, Greg, I hope that you get
some rest tonight, right, look forward to hearing your thoughts on the tape
when you see it. Yeah, guys, well you know it's Monday for
next week. You know what. This is what I'm gonna say. I
am now taking all the passions as I have for the bills, and I'm
putting it and directing it to b Troy Lion. Yeah, Lions, you
might think too. All right, Well that's then that's the uh, that's
the team to root for. Thank you, Greg. I've always I've always
been a quiet Lions fan a bit when Ralph Wilson, when I OpEd to
meet mister Wilson and his wife Mary, Ralph the first team. Ralph was
part owner of was was the Lions of the Ford family, and you talked
about the Lions quite a bit now, so for me for that, you
know, there is that Buffalo and Detroit connection. So here we go,
Lion Nation. I'm on board, and I'll see you in Vegas. I
hope all right, Well Greg enjoy, Well we'll talk to you before Vegas.
Sound good. Thanks guys. That a great night, you too.
So if you think he thinks for a second Terry Paula didn't set that whole
thing up, he's out of his fucking mind. I had Well, I
don't know if Terry. I don't even know if Terry would, but I
would think that somewhere the music guys, Oh that's true, that is true.
He's got the label. Yeah, yeah, I mean they probably gave
her the red carpet. Hey, can you do this? Can you do
that? She seems like a bitch. I don't think she do anything extra,
see Io the exactly opposite. I thought she was very nice. But
I have no idea. I don't know, because you know, it's everybody
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the chiefs about the video They had a video of her, a fan video,
and she was in it, and they sent a seasoned to disorder and
they had to take it down. Really yeah, trying to sue him and
Greg being kind of a gents. I think I'm put my money on San
Francisco. Detroit didn't look too good against Tampa Bay. They did not boy
that Baker Mayfield. Yeah, he balls out. He's another one. He
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He threw the pic just like injured man. That guy's got bad ankles,
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thing on your your bill's gear still on and all that. No, I'm
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so good ones. Yeah, it's about a Ya putting me on, taking
it out. She's so good with us to lett, that's right. You
don't. You don't see the blaze. It don't see the blaze. I
ain't so I think that's my thing, is I? I like it's a
fan in all when she comes back ball the juel slashed in the face lip
it worked always to Somebody said that turned the fan too on to the right.
That's funny. Oh god, that's all the stuff. Billy Joel's got
a new song coming out then, Uh yeah, turned the lights back out
that's the name of it. I haven't heard much about it. He's got
his own channel on Serious XM that they do every once in a while with
Billy Joelso you forget if macking Keith can do it, why can't he He's
he's right up there. I don't think he's eighty but he's seventies. I
think, look at that man. That guy had what a life. It
was just like this guy from Long Island. You went down to Long Island
and was he was? He was well. When I was in community college,
we had a fraternity Billy Babes and beer. Billy chaell was chicks and
beer. That was the That was the whole thing. He's only had that
one kind of minor blip in his whole image was that d W I had.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah. Other than that,
he's been squeaky clean forever. Well. Yeah, yeah, there was a
lot of I think there was a lot of drinking stuff that went on.
I don't know if that's the uh. I think he quit drinking all together.
There's a documentary called Hired Guns. Yeah he doesn't. He comes off
a fucking comes off really bad. I actually didn't like him for him,
and I'm like, what a douchebag. The guy killed himself. I mean,
it's not his fault. Obviously, mentally ill do it? You know?
I mean you're easily persuaded, though, is it persuaded? And why?
I think you're getting easily But I think if you hear enough bad stuff.
Yeah, but it wasn't just It wasn't just you know one you did
it with me? What well you are an asshole? Well okay, but
but still let's make up some shit about Josh Alla. See how quick he
turns? No? No, no, I'm not turn on Josh. No,
you can't do that because Jim Kelly's a faker. There was uh do
you guys like let me ask you about because sometimes people football fans, bills
fans, I don't know. Was that distraught? Maybe they are. I
don't know. I think upset, but not not distraught per se wrecking my
whole fucking day today today, as much as I didn't want it to.
Yeah, I just was like, oh day. There was adults crying at
the bar last night. That made me laugh. Wait, there were adults
crying at the bar and made me laugh. Wow, maybe laugh anybody crying
at bTB. One guy was pretty close though. Did you ever cry?
Went over? Now when you were a kid, because you grew up a
Dallas fan? Did you cry as a kid? Yeah, as a kid
though, that's Clark ever? Oh yeah, and god got Buffalo bills.
Clark nineteen eighty four. My first game ever in Buffalo, they lost fifteen
to three. Bill's won two games that year, Dallas won the division and
we lost to the fucking Bills. Oh the patrio. We had those moments.
I was just gonna say, all right, oh I uh, but
not as an adult. No, Well, have you ever gotten so upset,
like so angry? Because sometimes well is the catch game? Was it
for me? Well? Let me ask you this, because sometimes it's not
fair because you can't let your emotions out, especially when you know, like
you know, you're the CEO of BTV. You know like that well you
know what I'm saying, like you, huh, he does everything there,
Okay, But I mean, like my point is, you can't kind of
let your emotions out. You've got to keep it kind of contained. And
sometimes you can't help it, and the next thing you know, it's just
like a tear pops out. I don't know. That's not crying, though,
do you understand what I'm saying. I don't think that's growing. I
didn't cry, But the last time I got pissed was the Felcon Super Bowl.
I went into a whole nother room just away from everybody, and the
melted I can walk in and there screwing it. I'm like, get the
fuck out of the room. I came in here by myself, funk out,
and I was out of my mind when they scored over time. Dan
Quinn, Yeah that was dan Quinn, head coach. Yeah, I know.
Well but he's done well, Well what did you think of him as
your coordinator? He's done better than the last guy. But the last guy
was horrible, so then that was better. The problem is he doesn't make
any in game adjustments. And if you watch hard knocks with the Dolphins,
they basically said it at halftime that he won't make adjustments, so we're gonna
make these changes. And they went out and they did it. They beat
them. So if a good friend sees you upset, like sees you like
that, and then kind of keeps pushing, you know, saying things like
you see him down, or you're not as funny as you usually are,
not as energetic, you're not as interested in things. I don't know if
you I don't know if you guys had this in high school. I'm a
little bit older than you guys, but we had this whole thing. There
was an after school special with Charlie Sheen and I forget who, but the
guy commits suicide and he was like giving away his albums and all that stuff.
Scott Baio, No, it was Charlie. Yeah, it was Charlie
Sheen, and I forget who the other one was. The other there was
another actor like his brother was more famous than him. Anyway, it doesn't
matter. But the uh, I don't know when people start pushing on you,
like if they just go, hey, Mark, you seem down today,
right, He's just not yourself. You know, it's funny. You
know I was energetic. You know this? Does that start to piss you
off? If you say I'm fine? I hate that? Yeah, let
me fucking be Oh wow. Silence of the Heart eighty four eighty four made
Charlie Sheen, Chadlow, Chadlow, Howards Howard Hesman was the dad because Howard
Hessman, I remember he has beers with the guys and they're underage, and
I thought that was the coolest thing. I was like, fuck, yes,
they showed that in Health Class nineteen eighty four. I remember, Holy
Christ. Yeah, Charlie Sheen and Andy Chadlow's Chadlow right, yeah, Rob
Lowe's brother. Yeah, that's right. See, I said his brother was
more famous. I don't know, because if you say you're fine, but
now everybody's still concerned about mental health. That when you think you see something
like you keep pushing and pushing the button and then you know what I mean.
Do you ever have somebody who you walk into place and go, man,
you look tired. You're like Jesus Christ, I felt great. It's
like, that's a shitty thing to say. Like if someone will, if
you any of you guys walked in here, you could put on thirty pounds,
I'm gonna go, hey, back it on a few pounds. You
fell. Shit. I've never fucking said it to you. You came in
your thirty pounds, it's over. I never said to you you look like
who said me? Who did I say it to? I've never said that.
I've never said that. The meanest thing I ever said was when somebody
bragged about how much weight they lost and they said and somebody goes, oh
my god, I can't believe it was a woman. I can't believe you.
You say you were that fat? Oh yeah, I was over two
hundred pounds. I used to go to McDonald's every day and I start giggling,
and they go, what's so funny? And I go, I remember
this because McDonald's had to call Wendy's for bad every time she got in line.
I did that, go over, it went over. It was funny.
Though, it's just funny. I don't know people, it's just the
thing. Now. I would think, like you know, people are just
checking on you. They love you, they want to make sure you're all
right. But at the same time, I'm fine. It should be I'm
fucking fine, leave me the funk alone, huh. Not after that,
I'm fine. It's different. It's different. That was different. Kevin had
said something to me and I just checked on him the other day and he
wouldn't answer, and I go, I just want to hear your voice to
tell me I'm fine, because the way you said things the night before.
I fine. You sent a text, she said a text. No he
wasn't drunk. He wasn't. He wasn't, Because you're right, I would
have worried. No. No, well, sometimes all right, I don't
know. It's just a mental health thing and people check him and but sometimes
it's fucking annoying and this d n age. You have to though, right,
I don't know, do you? I think so? I think would
you blame yourself if I let's say you saw somebody and you thought, man,
they've been off for I don't know about a week or two, just
not themselves. I should give them a call, and then you don't,
and then you find out that they just ended it sometime over the weekend.
Do you put a little guilt on yourself? I would. I would,
now that you're saying it now and I'm saying it out loud and you're saying
it, I would. I would, like I don't know, but there
may have been nothing you could have done, right, just like Billy Joel.
Nothing you could have Jesus right there. I mean, there's nothing you
could have done. That's the only thing I could think. That's it.
Now. I did see a thing today that reminded me of you just said.
The people who say they can predict the weather by their joints, like
what hurts? And I'm just wondering your girlfriend could fucking with your mark.
You're so quiet over there, all of a sudden, I killed her earlier,
you're killing her now now, yelled at tonight and she listens. You
guys, are I'm really cool. So you better checking on Mark tomorrow.
Sure, No, you just all of a sudden you're quiet, you know
you want to take a shower? Are you that upset over the bill stuff?
Does it really fucked you? I mean, I'm just I've been up
since four thirty. So no, that's the other thing. Yeah, that'll
that'll do it. That does yeah. Yeah, any other fun things going
on in Mark's world? I have nothing going on. No, I'm boring,
No nothing, Nope. I got home from work on Friday and I
didn't leave till Sunday. I could tell it. Drove past your house the
other day and it was like fucking four feet of snow on your car.
Nobody even calls me anymore to go out because I never go. Wait,
you just stayed home by yourself all weekend. You didn't even go over to
your girlfriend's house. No, you just stayed by yourself all weekend. Yeah,
it's kind of nice. Is it's awesome? It's fucking awesome? All
right? Yeah, you didn't go out and do anything. No, if
a man way, I would have seen home Sunday. And well the weather,
the weather is supposed to warm up, yah, supposed to be niceties.
Yeah, Does that help though with the bar business, Yeah, because
everybody does what he You know, Friday, Friday was Friday was tough.
It was definitely slower. Night. Larriday was great because I think people finally
were dug out. But yeah, Friday with the snow killed us. Really.
It just kept snowing Yesterday. Well west Side would probably got we just
got stop at noon and stopped at noon the next day, right, Yeah,
so that really hurts it. That bad h January is tough as it
is snow on top of it. So when you get that January thaw,
that helps a little bit. Yeah, God damn. And now that the
Bills are out of it, because I gotta tell you, man, it's
a fun place to watch the Bills game. When you guys hit the shout
song and the watch game down there, it's just as loud. Yeah,
they're crazy. Oh you got a pig forty nine ers? Yeah, how
is that possible? The eighties? Man, that's true Montana. Yeah,
and all the kids they've been in Super Bowl you know recent Yeah, they
have so, But I mean still, I would just think that most people
aren't fans like Dallas. I get forty nine ers, I don't yeah,
it's the same way. Really. Yeah, I mean Mat Tanam all these
people are are the age of Yeah, it's whatever the team is, it's
good at that point. I mean, you got the Chiefs, Now you
hit the Patriots's cow Boys. No, well, I know, but I
figure proximity. You grew up, you get you know, you're here.
It's what's talked about most. It's what's usually on the cover. Not that's
anybody's getting the paper anymore, but you go to the web pages there,
you know, it's the cover of the web page. That sort of thing.
Dallas just permeates everything they've been everywhere else. Yeah, which is great.
Yesterday're still talking about the lost from a week ago. Let it go,
dude, I know, but I was really curious as to how you
felt about the coaching thing. You would want McCarthy gone? Yeah, would
you let dan quinn take over? No? No, I don't want Quinny
as my defensive You don't want him as a head coach. McCarthy he can't
get he's not He's just like deermy's not out. They're dropping the ball or
missing tackles. Does he have him prepared? I don't know. Okay,
I don't know. I don't know how a team can be so flat like
they were against Buffalo, they were in Miami the second third quarter, and
then the Green Bay game, they're so flat? How do you come out
that flat? First of all, you shouldn't need to be motivated as a
freaking well. This is the thing that's a gros point that you're making because
but you know, as you know, Greg's talking and he always applies it
to business. You're basically the head coach of bt B. So how do
you keep people's head in the game. Somebody's having a bad day. Have
you ever pulled an appointment well without I don't know if this is a good
thing to ask or not, but have you ever pulled an employee buy and
go? Hey, listen, just put a smile on, even if you
need to fake it a little bit. Yeah, just put a smile after
a lot you deal with a lot. Get rid of the bitch face.
Yeah, I mean, because it it affects their tip in the end,
mostly right, I mean the worst and seeing somebody walk around and like a
bitchy skull on their face, you know what I mean? Yeah, that
is true. I don't know, but especially when it's your Yeah, I
mean yeah, there's a lot of times you got to you gotta say something,
really got to put it aside, check your shit at the door.
Are there staff meetings? Yeah, one of those very often, but there
are What are they like? No, I would think just to go over,
hey, man, here's what we got, here's the schedules coming out
the specials. I mean it's only a couple every couple of months, maybe,
yeah, change the season usually. Yeah, they're pretty quick, easy
going over some things that you know need to be fixed to abilities used to
be brutal because you were the sexual harassment whatever, the freaking meeting because of
you. Yea, what was that like for you? Having that, like
that responsibility? It's that big responsibility. I mean, I know there's like
other people, right, but you were you were an owner correct, Okay,
So I mean that's a big responsibility. Yeah. Did you did?
You did? You didn't take it seriously? Did you know I took it?
I didn't know the business. Yeah, I didn't know the business.
So I did what I knew how what I knew how to do. I
didn't how to cook, you know, I learned how to bar tend.
I hated that we hated. Told a couple jokes that got out. Oh
then you know sometimes, why why man, why why do you hate bartending?
Most people, most guys I know, we're like. I think it's
just because I don't know all the ins and out I got you. Yeah,
yeah, the fucking regulars are brutal when you're behind the bar trying to
freaking do it too. Don't give me this, give me that. Yeah,
but you'd catch on in like a minute. Yeah. Have you jumped
in Yeah, yeah, that's just nothing in that place. I haven't done
nothing. I'm sure got to clean it right exactly. But that's the kind
of boss you want. You want somebody who's gonna get in the trenches and
do it, you know, not be Mark standing there yelling at you the
mops over there. Bullshit, you got involved, didn't you. Yeah,
I mean when what I could do. I didn't like the I didn't like
the business. Yeah, I didn't like it at all. It's been It's
funny because my brothers were all, we're in the business, and then I
tried. I didn't. That wasn't not for me. Come out and you
come from you know, my background, it's like it's different all of a
sudden, you go in. You do you do on one to eighty of
something totally different. Yeah, he was great at checking the levels and the
liquor bottles then lowering them. It's a skill. It's a skill. It's
evaporation. It's a skill. All right, we'll take a moment. Uh,
can we do a little closest to the pit with Mark and Matt?
You're right, yeah, you sure? I don't care. You seem flat.
I'm worried about you. I'm tired. I know. All right,
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we gotta losers, chain smokers and boozers, and we got Yepo,
we got backers. We got thirsty hitch hackers and the girls next door dress
of black movie stars Simi Haggers versus so much better the broken hard mark.
Did you love your bar when you had it? Of course I did.
Of course there was a legendary bar. Anything that we left out that you
wanted to say about the Buffalo Bills, there's nothing more to say. No,
I feel like, I mean, you wanted me to play let it
go? So he's so creative. Yeah, anything on the Cowboys that we
have not touched upon at all? Nothing, nothing, nothing, anybody they
need to get any linebackers, linebackers, defensive tackle, offensive line. I
wonderful a J. Klein or somebody ends up there. They need a They
need a bully. They need a big, strong, tough linebacker. They
try to use safeties this year. That didn't work out too well. You
know, they lost their main linebacker early in the season. That was it.
They need to move Michael Parsons back to the linebackers. You need to
do Yeah, I mean the kid they drafted last year, you know,
he towards a cl and spring and training camps and uh that was that was
a huge loss. So we'll see. All right, Well, I know
another season. Isn't it depressing? And in its own way it is very
depressing. Would have been exciting if the Bills won this Mark, this was
the one. It felt like this was the one to me? Did it
not? No? It did it like the finally thirteen seconds. March always
says it was the one that was the one because they would have beat Cincinnati
and then they've been home and they were better than the Rams. Even Ram
fans said that they didn't want to play Buffalo. Wow, I didn't know.
I tried to give Greg some salace. What the Savers fucking Sabers suck?
All right, well they do? Here we go, Here we go,
Mark, Yes, closest to the pin yes, let's see how we
can do. Can we pull it out? Can we be we'll be wide
right with our answers or it's very very football focused this weekend? All right,
here we go, crush. I see across the NFL how many field
goals were missed in the twenty twenty three reg other season. How many field
goals were missed? We're missed? I think my number is too low.
But we were doing fucking math. What are you doing math on? That
comes later into questions trust me. Number two? What year was the last
AFC Championship game held in Baltimore? What year was the last AFC Championship game
held in Baltimore? That's a trick question. Maybe they never they never had
a championship in bold they're talking about they've been to a Super Bowl. No,
I know, but they've never had he's talking about it at home.
But zero take the loss? Right, they've never? I don't think so
put zero take the loss? Next question, how many NFC Championship games have
the forty nine ers played in NFC championship NFC championship games. This number surprised
me. It's a lot. I remember losing to the Packers a few years
ago, last year they won, led the last three. I mean they've
been in the Eventually they lost last year to Philadelphia. They lost a few
years ago to the Packers. So you gotta figure this four plus five super
Bowls those five So CBS will be televising the Big Game this season. They
have televised the game the most of any network. How many times has the
broadcast been on CBS. Yeah, a few years where they didn't exist,
Fox took over. Yeah, that's true. Fifty this year? Were we
fifty four? No, we're hired and that I think we're almost fifty almost
sixty. I think fifty eight seven or fifty eight. I think. Okay,
what year was the first Super Bowl halftime show held? There was there
was a question before all right, what year was the first Super Bowl halftime
show held? We've had this question question was it up with people? It
was not up with people? Otherwise the series I thought it was too That
was the I think that was the last one before Michael Jackson was up with
people. So, Michael, but that's a halftime show. Is was that
considered a halftime show or not up with people? Yeah? It was a
halftime show though, last one, adding the combined distances of the Bills wide
right misses of Tyler Back and Scott Norwood in Super Bowl twenty five. How
many total feats were the kicks? What say that again? How many total
feet were the kicks? Adding in Norwood's miss and basses miss Norwood was forty
seven, Bass was forty four. Will you bitch about this question? Yeah?
So, I don't have to take it away. It's just third that's
got a calculator around there, and that's very right. This is third grade
math, third grade math. I just didn't know it's not sixth grade three
fun. That's one of the third readers tomorrowed this question. They'll probably freaking
noll it and then punch you in the thick. Shut the fuck up,
Milman. Mark said, I'm gonna bother way the answer. Okay, I
got it ready, all right? Back to the top. How many field
goals were missed in the twenty twenty three season field goals? Field goals?
I mean, how many on average do they kick a game? And you
could have thirty two teams, you could miss three a game. I don't
want a game and my answer is definitely too low. I don't know what
did you say fifty three. That may be right. I was thinking it
could be highest. I put. I'll tell you what I put. I
put a ridiculously eye number. I put. They missed three hundred. Oh,
that's ridiculously that's ten a game, that team seventy seven, it's one.
Nine. Oh. Your leaders were the Rams with eleven and the Giants
and Patson gun who got that one? Oh? I knew the Colways had
three? Okay, what year was the last AFC Championship game held in Baltimore?
I said twenty twelve. I don't I didn't think there was one in
Baltimore unless we're talking about the Colts Baltimore. Oh, franchise you. Yes,
that makes sense now because I heard today that the Ravens have never held
a champions They always played at right twenty thousand, thinking the ray Lewis team
nineteen seventy one Baltimore Colts, Yeah, I thought I thought they did with
ray Lewis. For some reason, I forget that. I think it was
so dominant back then. How many NFC Championship games have the forty nine ers
played in ten? I said sixteen, I said eighteen eighteen in a whole
Wow, nice job I mean that number surprised. I mean they had five
Super Bowl wins, well one loss. I felt like sixteen was going one
or two higher than I I know they've been to three in the last probably
ten years. Sow out, get that right? In the whole league?
Crush? You're right? How many times this CBS broadcast the Big Game?
All right? I don't know, I'm not I don't even know if they
had half of them right, because if we're they have not had half.
No, I know, so I'm way highland. I'm thinking, what's your
right down? I wrote twenty it's not a bad answer. I wrote fourteen.
I got thirty one answer, that's not a good answer. Twenty one
share will be twenty two. What year was the first Super Bowl halftime show?
I said seventy nine, but I don't believe that's correct. I'm going
with you. I say, like eighty eighty eighty one two, but I
can't wrote seventy four. Nineteen sixty seven. Super Bowl number one featured performances
from the University of Arizona Symphonic Marching Band and Grambling States for the march show
at every Super Bowl. Yeah, yes, all right, And that's a
math combined distances and feet of Tyler Basses missed forty four and Scott Norwoods missed
forty seven. But I don't know. I said to the writing sixty three,
I said, two seventy three. You got it? Ninety one yards
three feet three yard ninety one times three two seventy three. Well I was
off my ten. Look who crushed? Look who crushed down there? You
know, I can't answer what music or movies. I got the questions earlier.
When I put the food rush he crushed it. God, I was
like embarrassed. Likely, Yeah, that's me when we talk about music or
movies. Though, you guys are answering, you know all the answers.
I like what you No, No, Mark, Mark knows that stuff.
Mark knows a lot of useless information. You know. That's what we call
that. Do you ever do trivia night? Yeah? We do on trivia
on Wednesday nights. Oh you Doday night? Yeah, we've never talked about
trivia. Is a busy night? Yeah, I'm sure is it's a big
deal. Do you get is it teams? Yeah? Yeah, that's great.
You know what Marks great? He can tell you a song usually in
the first few notes, shut up are you that good something. But all
right, but give me like a decade or something, so I'm not I'm
okay eighties. Let me do one that a guy was in here yesterday,
Joe Bricado, no friend of mine who when we were in college, got
Hodgkins lymphoma and then waited because he didn't want his hair to fall out until
after senior pictures. Everything was like the spring semester had it and then so
you went through the treatment, did all that, and they told him like
in thirty years you could have some morgan damage from the radiation and that there
could be heart damage. And he's stayed in shape. Did every heart tech.
Yeah, just had a heart tech. And this was the You'll know
this song right away, and I shouldn't even play it because I don't even
think. It starts with a note if I'm thinking, if I'm remembering correctly,
it starts with this. Oh it's Miley Cruzick start. I don't.
I didn't even start in the beginning mark. It started like for there,
that's the beginning. But you've known that. Yeah, okay, let's see,
let me see if I can find a hard one. This is the
official video videos in the eighties had like a whole movie. No, no,
oh, come on, Virgin, I would never have gotten that quick
could you do? Name that tune? Have you been on that show?
No? But this all happened is they tried bringing that back? You know
who is one of the executive producers of that show? Ryan No, Randy
Jackson, No regret really yeah, he was involved with it. Oh that
shows kind of tainted though, I think, because there's many times where I
could get the song in no notes, just off the clue. Yeah,
oh yeah, I don't know. Oh, there's a guy who used to
come in the bet the Abilities and they used to do it there all the
time, and I so I challenged him one time and I like just kicked
his ass and he's like whoa, Yeah, yeah, I mean it's you
know, it's like a savant. That's all I got other than that,
other than nothing else. Yeah, a good rap with the women. You
were pulling ladies back in the day. Yeah, you know when you have
summer jam tickets, he's whatever tools in the belt, ver's whatever you can
get. Hey, you know what if I'm if we're gonna do it at
his age? Being in our twenties was the best, right, Yeah,
absolutely, because when I was interview I interviewed for another for another station recent
we've talked about this, yeah, and I'm thinking to myself, what is
a fifty something year old want to even do this job anymore? They don't.
It's joy I hit it by accent, but they don't. I agree,
you know. I mean it didn't even seem it didn't even seem like
as much as I thought about going back, and I was like, it
just didn't seem like anything I want to do anymore. No, Well,
it's all changed anyway, It's all changed. It's it's not the same.
It's all right, all right. For Matt Reese doesn't want McCarthy as the
head coach of the Dallas coverld. He gone after this year? Do you
think for Mark Killman, who's alright with mc dermott or not? No,
not all right? No, Kevin who's just laughing at everybody. What to
do? My Bill Moran will see them