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Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,

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I'm forty. Go ahead, make
my day every single week. I

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put my freaking heart and soul into
this. I don't go out there and

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laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's
funny to me. I don't wanna go

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out there and get embarrassed on Monday
night football. For everybody, I think

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this is the beginning of a beautiful
friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from

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yesterday. Still the same person I
was yesterday, and I got the same

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thing for you that I had yesterday. You know why I'm here. You

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play to win the day. You
don't play to just play it. That's

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a great thing about sports. You
play to win, and I don't care

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if you don't have any wins.
You go play to win. When you

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start telling me it doesn't matter,
I can retire. Get out for the

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matters. Thanks for being back with
us on a Tuesday. This is Exes

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and Bros. And we are with
you Monday through Friday, six until nine.

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I'm Matt Shepherd. Ben is our
producer. Give mc call on the

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Meyer Hotline eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight forty three. Anything

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that might be on your mind.
In the world of sports, we welcome

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it. Love the discussion. You
could text the program sports radio to twenty

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one thousand braves, trim the Tigers
to one. Ozzie i'l be's with the

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two out solo Obama the eighth off
Shelby Miller was the difference, little salt

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to the wound with Joe jan Menez
coming in and picking up his first save,

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working a clean ninth. Ugh.
Not that you want Joe Jimenez back,

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because you don't. But to see
something like that at this time when

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so many things are needed, it
just ruins your night to a certain extent.

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I mean, you know what,
let me take that back. You

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can't let it ruin your night.
You have to understand what's expected, right,

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the whole the whole line of you
know what, they're playing good teams.

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They're playing Houston, and they hung
tough and they had a chance to

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win the series. Oh okay,
that's good. Love your moral victory.

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Atlanta is a good team, man, and you know they're only a run

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shy okay, why to spin that
positive? Sometimes it's okay to say,

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you know what, they're not good
enough. Sometimes it's all right. To

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be a little bit more emotional.
It's okay to be upset because I was

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having a discussion with a friend of
mine the other day about this very topic

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about how the Tigers do play hard, they hang in there. And I'm

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guilty because I've said it in the
past. You know, understanding how long

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the season is, understanding there's going
to be ups and downs at this point

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of the season. When you're in
this type of situation and you're as far

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back as this team is from the
division, eleven and a half back,

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and you are this far under five
hundred, four games under five hundred,

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When you're one of two teams in
the division to have a minus run differential,

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Chicago being the other, it starts
to turn to anger a little bit.

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For me, it does. And
not that I have anything against Atlanta,

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not that I don't agree that Atlanta's
a good team. They are.

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They're really good. Okay, they're
second in the NL East, and the

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NL East is at least with Philadelphia, two of the better teams in baseball.

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Really, but this is about,
and we've talked about this before,

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this is about expectations. Okay,
our expectations are low, period. Your

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expectations for everybody else, well maybe
not the Pistons, but for Michigan and

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Michigan State, for the Lions,
for the Red Wings. For some reason,

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we're able to use that high bar
as the expectation. So when it

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comes to this team, it's not
existent. You are satisfied and willing to

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accept effort, says in a high
school team. It's not a little league

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where it's okay to these guys get
paid a lot of money. You pay

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a lot of money, you sometimes
playing your day around it, and this

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is what you get, and you've
got to recognize it's just not good enough.

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Folks. They have played seventy two
games this season so far, okay,

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seventy two, not quite the halfway
point getting there. Seventy two games,

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twenty two of those games, or
thirty and a half percent, they

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have scored two runs or less.
That's how bad the offense was, or

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is ree Olsen's good enough? And
maybe you, as a glass half full

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person is looking at it and saying, you know what, I'll take that

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guy, sure me too. Six
innings, four hit ball, no runs

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allowed, six strikeouts, didn't walk
a batter, goes back home, Native

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Georgian and was really impressive. Now, the one hundred pitches over six innings

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is probably a little concerning. But
you can't have everything, all right.

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You ask for a quality start,
you get a quality start. He's a

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quality start guy who is helping your
team stay in there. It's up to

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your offense and others to make sure
that you finished the job. Reese Olsen

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too often has been hung out to
dry. Let me give you a quick

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statistic that might surprise you. Not
everything's about stats, I get it,

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but sometimes they do tell a story. The Detroit Tigers are fifth, don't

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check that. I'm sorry. They're
sixth in Major League Baseball and quality starts.

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Reees Olsen gave them their forty second
quality start last night. Let me

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give you the teams that are ahead
of them. Seattle they're number one in

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baseball. They lead the West.
Philadelphia they're number two in baseball. They

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are the leaders in the NL East. Kansas City the Royals would be in

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the playoffs if it started today.
The Dodgers, who lead the NL West,

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and Pittsburgh and Paul Skins was rock
solid again last night. Their rookie

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now four and oh, those are
your teams above Detroit in quality starts.

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You're going to preach, and so
am I pitching in defense? Okay,

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fair enough, Detroit's getting the pitching. Their defense isn't good, especially in

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shortstop, and there's no hope on
the horizon there either. But their pitching

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is good enough. They stink offensively, so you can be as good as

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the numbers I just gave you with
the quality starts and how good Resolson was

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yesterday. His run support is just
a tick above two. It's like two

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point three. It's two point three
going into the game last night, and

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he got one run, so that's
gonna go down. And yet this team

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can't do a damn thing about it. It's frustrating. You just shake your

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head and you're like, I'm not
sure they got a chance tonight. Pitching

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gives them a chance, offense takes
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getting rolling on a Tuesday morning.
Exes and Bros with you throughout the great

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As we mentioned to one, the
frustration continues to boil over, at

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least for me. It doesn't sound
like it has for many Tigers fans out

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there. And I don't suggest a
solution, right. I'm not one of

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those people who tells you, you
know what, this team is going to

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do what you wanted to do.
Don't go to a game that's bull crap.

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You want to go to a game, go enjoy it. It's still

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an inexpensive way to take the family
to an event and be together on a

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beautiful summer night. Go do it. Absolutely. You can still be a

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fan of a team. You can
still go and support that team and still

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be upset that the team hasn't done
what you expect them to do. You

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can hold them accountable. Absolutely.
Who are we to sit there and tell

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you what to do with your entertainment
dollar? Who are we to sit there

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and tell you who to vote for
and who not to root for. You're

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Tigers fans. Good for you,
keep it up, Just understand and have

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some realistic expectations of what you're going
to get. That's all I'm suggesting.

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There's a level of disappointment for me
that continues to climb higher and higher each

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time I watch his team play with
feeble swings and bad decisions. And I'm

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not one of those guys who says, Oh, it should be easy.

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All you have to do is this. No, Holy this is so hard.

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It is so very difficult. And
there's nothing worse than a There's nothing

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worse than a talk show host or
a member of the media acting like what

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this team does, or what a
team does, I should say is pretty

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easy or should be pretty easy,
and that's not the way it works.

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Man, It's really really hard.
I understand that, and I think you

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understand it as well. There's not
many who get the opportunity to play Major

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League baseball. You think that,
you think that there are, You think

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that it is one of those situations
where you know, hey, I see

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a lot of Major leaguers come and
go. You know, you think that

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there's an infinite number of opportunities out
there, and it's really not the case.

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Okay, it's we hear about the
greats all the time, but if

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you really do the research, for
as long as baseball has been around,

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there's only been not even twenty one
thousand people who have played in Major League

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baseball at least once. Think about
that for a second. Not even twenty

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one thousand. The number of people
all time who have played Major League baseball

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is less than the enrollment that Grand
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or Eastern Michigan all time. So
it's hard. I get it. That

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is elite status for all the people
who grow up you and I wanting to

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play this great game for a living
dream of being that hero wearing whatever uniform

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was your favorite. For all of
us, less than twenty one thousand in

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the history of the sport have played
at the major league level. So that's

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not lost on me. It's not
lost on just how challenging, how difficult,

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and how rare you have to be
to make it. So I respect,

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and I mean this sincerely. I
greatly respect those who have reached that

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level. Now, you and I
can talk all we want about the guys

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who have played for the Tigers and
have been awful. And you can't believe

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that Dalwell Lugo has been a major
league player. Okay, Kristen Stewart has

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been a major league player. You
may not believe it. You may not

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like it. I don't necessarily like
it either, But every franchise has those

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players. The key is getting better
players and for those better players to stay

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with your team longer. Right now, as much as we may hear about

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certain stories of a certain player,
as much as it may be a feel

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good moment to see one player succeed
every once in a while, as often

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as we may hear interviews with said
players, Mom and Dad, I go

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back to a pretty regular eye test
study example, whatever word you want to

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use on whether or not. I
think this team is going in the right

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direction. How many guys on this
team do you believe the team they're playing

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against? Once? Brian Snicker is
a really good manager, all right,

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he's the Atlanta bench boss. He's
sitting there looking across the dugout, across

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the diamond. How many Tigers does
he say, wish I had that guy

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on my team. That's what I
want. I want to hear people who

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are envious of your team or my
team. Now, I'm not saying if

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you're a Tigers fan, you'd much
rather have Jared kellnickensenter than Riley Green.

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Because Riley Green played center field last
night, was on base three times.

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I don't think it's easy to argue
against Riley Green. I think he's been

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your best player so far. Maybe
you've got somebody else in mind. Maybe

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there's an argument to be had there. I don't think right now you're taking

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who played second last night? Gee
or Schella? Did he play second last

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night? No? Cole Keith played
second last night. Chello was at third.

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I don't think you're taking cold Keith
over Ozzie Alby's right now, I

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don't think you're taking Mark Canna over
Marcello Zuna. I'll take Matt Olsen at

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first base over Andy Banyez at first
base. I'll take Austin Riley at third

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over Go Orchella. Do I need
to continue? I don't think I do.

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I'll take Sean Murphy over Jake Rogers. And keep in mind Atlanta's not

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the best team in baseball either.
I'm measuring you against a team that sits

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in second play and is you know, a modest eight games over five hundred.

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Those are the things that I look
at. I look at it.

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I'm pretty much every single series,
who is your everyday player at that position

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compared to my team? And how
many of those position battles am I winning?

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flag back with you on EXUS and
Bros. We've been putting out poll questions.

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Yesterday we asked you did Bryson Deshambo
win the PG eight or the US

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opened or did Rory McElroy lose it? Ben put it up and sent it

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out on social media. Plenty of
responses and Ben, what was the overall

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percentage? Yeah, it was McElroy
lost sixty percent and de Shambo won was

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forty percent. I wonder I kind
of had a sense, and we've got

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another poll question up out there right
now that we'll get to here in a

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moment, I had this sense that
was going to be the overwhelming voting because

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I think people look at things negatively
more today than they ever have. I

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don't know the reason for that,
and I can't say that I have scientific

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or numerical proof. This is just
something that I have guessed or I have

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kind of come to the conclusion of
that. People just look at it and

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think a guy doesn't win that event
because of what Rory McElroy did down the

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stretch. And I wonder when you're
watching that event and you get look,

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it's pretty obvious that when you boget
three out of last four holes, okay,

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because he bogeed fifteen, sixteen and
eighteen, how many legit? I

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don't know. I mean, the
guy was four hundred and ninety six for

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four hundred and ninety six until he
missed a three footer. I think it

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was on sixteen anyway, or maybe
it was the eighteenth. Anyway, there

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was a time there was a stretch
where he birdied nine, birdied ten,

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birdied twelve, birdy thirteen to take
the lead. Now, to me,

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that's a guy who is elevating his
game, not choking. And basically that's

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the question. Is the question the
way we phrased it, you could you

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could read into is that, Hey, people feel like Rory McElroy choked.

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And I just when a guy goes
on that type of run, like he

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comes charging out of the gate and
he gets a birdie and on the front

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nine he shoots thirty four and this
is this. This course is really hard.

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All the pictures of the greens right, it looks like you took a

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bowl and turned it upside down.
The crowd of a hat trying to get

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it on that course. I remember
before or on those greens, before the

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tournament started, there was a video
making the rounds on social media where a

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guy dropped the ball on one side
of the green and it rolled all the

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way off the other side of the
green. That's how steep those curling undulations

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of the greens were. There was
a time, I think on Sunday where

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when Bryson Deshamba had birdied thirteen but
then bogeyed fifteen. People were thinking he's

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the one who is choking because while
he was boguing fifteen, well, I

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guess McElroy had bogued fifteen as well, and it was almost as if,

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well, who really wants this?
Does anybody want this? Of course they

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do. The conditions are really challenging. Remember Deshambo had all kinds of issues

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getting off the tee. I mean
he was a erratic off the tee.

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He was scrambling. It was the
ultimate scrambling round and he shot a one

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over The funny thing is McElroy beat
him on Sunday, just on Sunday,

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but not for the tournament. Obviously, McElroy had a better score by two

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over Deshambo on Sunday. So I
kind of had an idea that people were

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going to suggest, And I don't
think people are taking anything away from Deshambo,

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but I had an idea that,
yeah, that's that's the way they

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were going to look at it.
They were going to look at it from

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a negative standpoint. So it's sixty
forty people thought Maceilroy lost it more than

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Deshamble won it. Personally, when
you make that shot, especially on eighteen,

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because the drive was terrible, the
punch out from the hanging tree overhead

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and the ball nestled up against a
root. Like my buddies and I were

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playing around, We're like, you
know what, I don't want to I'm

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not going to ruin my club by
having the ball there. Just just move

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it just a little bit to give
yourself a little bit more of a free

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whack at it. So you're not
ruining a club. We're not pros here.

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Deshamba's got to play where it was. Punches out to the sand.

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The sand is nasty, and I
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not a nice soft sand. I
mean it's just a nasty place to be.

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Nobody had gotten up and down for
par or better from there. And

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Deshambo did on Sunday on the biggest
stage and what many would consider the shot

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of his life and one of the
better shots in major championship history. What

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the others are is debatable, but
that's in the conversation. When you make

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that shot on eighteen, something that
nobody else has done all week long,

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I think you win that tournament.
I'm not in the habit of taking things

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away from people who have accomplished something
at such a high level like that.

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Today's pole question is this, and
we'll get to this coming up. Today's

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pole question is of the Lions offseason
moves, which are the biggest or what

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is the biggest? I should say? Is it signing A'mon Ross, Saint

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Brown, Penney Sewell and Jared Goff
to extensions? Is it signing Dan Campbell

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Brad Holmes to extensions? Is it
Ben Johnson choosing to say? Or is

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it drafting Terry on Arnold. Ben's
got it out on our social media channel

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and social media. Exes and bros
love you to vote. Vote as often

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as you like. We'll give the
results sometime tomorrow because we want to keep

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it up there for about twenty four
hours. Speaking of golf, Rory McElroy,

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and look, we chastised him yesterday
for this, and I think for

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good reason. We said, hey, listen, you look like a baby.

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You look like a poudy, whiny
baby. Because he left as soon

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as Deshambo won the championship. Deshambo
actually wondered where McElroy was when the tournament

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was over. I'm sure somebody whispered
in his ear. Well. He jumped

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into the rental car and headed for
the airport. While Deshambo was doing press

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conference interviews reenactments on eighteen out of
the Sandtrap with Golf Channel signing hats,

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shaking hands, taking pictures, McElroy
was in the air on the way home.

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It showed a class list is a
pretty good word. We get mad

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at guys who don't shake hands in
basketball. Do you remember this? There

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are certain players Lebron Jay James has
done it. He leaves the court without

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shaking hands. Dwight Howard did it
while he was in Orlando, left the

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court without shaking hands. Isaiah Thomas
and the Pistons, except for Joe Dumars,

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did it against the Bulls, left
the court without shaking hands. It

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was an uproar, classless bush league. This is the reason we don't like

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them. Blah blah blah blah blah. I didn't agree with it. I

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don't like the Bulls, but I
didn't agree with it. I don't think

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that's how you handle yourself. I
understand why they were upset. I know

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they didn't like the things that Michael
Jordan said and how the media lapped it

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up. Because everything Jordan says,
or everything Tiger Woods says, or everything

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Lebron James says is gospel. God
forbid you disagree with any of them.

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But I didn't think it showed a
classy way to end a hard fought series.

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The media ridiculed Isaiah Thomas in the
Pistons. Then do you hear the

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same type of vitriol for Rory McElroy
Because I haven't read it. I haven't

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seen it, and I think they
should. McElroy finally spoke about it or

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wrote about it in an extended statement. This is what he said on social

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media, Like I get the purpose
of social media. I do I understand

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how people truly use it as their
platform. I'm not saying it's a bad

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thing, but it gets a little
old when you fall back to it constantly.

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I still think people want to hear
from you, because there is a

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difference between reading what you're writing and
hearing the inflection in your voice, looking

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at the sincerity in your eyes.
This is what he wrote on social media.

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Tough as day I've had in my
nearly seventeen years as a professional golfer.

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Sunday was a tough day, probably
the toughest I've had nearly seventeen years

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as a pro golfer. Firstly,
I'd like to congratulate Bryson. He's a

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worthy champion and exactly what professional golf
needs right now. I think we can

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all agree on that. Period,
Okay, means a little more to Deshambo

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the world of golf and sports when
you're saying it to that person rather than

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writing it about that that person.
But let's say I want to give him

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the benefit of the doubts. Okay, Let's say I just want to all

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right, he understood a mistake.
Fine, what happens when all these big

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corporations and big athletes, And let's
face it, Rory McElroy's got plenty of

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people on his team social media team, public relations team, marketing team to

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believe that most of the stuff that
is being done is not being done by

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him, that somebody has crafted it
themselves. Part of their job is I

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am your whatever speech writer, I
am your marketing manager. I am your

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social media manager. So as much
as I'd like to give Rory McElroy the

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benefit of the doubt and say that's
a nice sentiment that he wrote there,

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I'm not sure I believe he wrote
it in the first place. Either way,

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he continued. As I reflect on
my week, I'll rule a few

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things over the course of the tournament, mostly the two mist plots on sixteen

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and eighteen on the final day.
But as I always try to do,

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I'll look at the positives of the
week that far outweigh the negatives. As

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I said at the start of the
tournament, I feel closer to winning my

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next major championship than I ever have. The one word that I would use

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to describe my career is resilient.
I've shown my resilience over and over again

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the last seventeen years, and I
will again. I'm going to take a

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few weeks away from the game to
process everything, build myself back up for

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my defense of the Genesis Scottish Open
and the Open at Royal Troon. Okay,

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originally he was supposed to be on
the Travelers, but he's backed out

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of that at TPC River Highlands and
a purse that has four million dollars.

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It's not about the money. He's
got plenty more than he'll ever need.

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It's great that he'll focus on the
positives. I love how it goes from

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hey, how good is Bryson?
Too? As I reflect on my week,

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you also notice maybe you don't think
he needs it. But there's no

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apology there. Sorry. I let
my emotions get the best of me,

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and I wasn't around to answer any
questions. I'm sorry that I took this

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so hard. As I said,
it's the toughest in the seventeen years I've

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been on tour. I just did
not want to talk. I should have

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been there to SHAKEE Bryson's hands and
congratulate him on a hard fought week of

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golf, but it was just too
much for me. I don't know.

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I'm just spitbawling here. I'm making
this stuff as we go. I think

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it's ridiculous. We're going to accept
this. I'm sure somebody will ask him

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at his next tournament, but I
would hope somebody would unless they're afraid of

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him too. But how do we
just say, Okay, yeah, this

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is good enough. We've got people
out there in high positions in the world

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of sports talking to us about camaraderie, talking to us about sportsmanship, and

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talking to us about what's good for
the game in which they play. And

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then he turns around and does something
like this. Now, if his emotions

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got the best of him and he
had to take off, couldn't take it

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any more. So be it.
Don't agree with it. People make mistakes.

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How do you handle the mistake?
What do you do to file up?

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How do you react once you've made
the mistake? These actions don't gloss

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over his mistakes. To me,
there's no regret whatsoever. He's congratulating a

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guy who won a championship. No
kidding, it was a tough day.

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No kidding, it was a tough
day for a lot of guys. Scotti

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Scheffler had a really tough week,
quite Honestly, he was terrible. One

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of the worst outings that you've seen
the number one player in the world perform.

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Oldberg fell apart on Saturday. They
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still did something right, They still
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two and finishing plus eight tied for
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also vote on our pole question.
The poll question of the day is a

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good one. I think biggest Lions
offseason move signing. I'm on Ross Saint

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Brown, Penny Sool, Jared Golf
to contract extensions, signing Dan Campbell,

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Brad Holmes to contract extensions, Ben
Johnson choosing to stay or drafting Terry on

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Arnold. We'll get to that and
the reason that is the poll question coming

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up here. I also want to
talk a little NBA, but I just

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let me just wrap up the golf
discussion. We just talked about the Roy

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McElroy apology. It really wasn't an
apology, it was the explanation on why

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he left the US Open. You
know by now that with the Olympics coming

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up, golf is an event and
Bryson Deshamba, who just won the US

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Open is not going to be representing
the United States of America because he plays

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on the Live Tour. It's a
four man team and the four players are

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Scotty Scheffler, he's number one in
the world, Xander Schoffley, who won

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a gold medal last time and is
number three in the world, Wyndham Clark

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number five in the world, and
Colin Morricowen number seven. I have no

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problem with it. I really don't. The qualifications is the top fifteen in

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the world golf rankings are eligible,
all right. No more than four players

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can be selected from a given nation
outside the top fifteen. Players will be

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eligible based on the world rankings,
with a maximum of two eligible players from

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each country that does not already have
two more player two or more players among

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the top fifteen. So I get
Scheffler, I get softly. Wyndham Clark

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was horrible at the US Open.
His ranking. I suppose warrants that I,

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like Colin Moricyle, always have Bryce
and Deshambeau should be part of the

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team USA. Now, I would
also add that these guys when they went

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to Live understood that they completely understood
what they were getting into, and Deshambo

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can come out and say all he
wants about how it's disappointing and that he

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can't be part of it. But
he also needs to understand that people see

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through this stuff. You wanted to
go where the money was, all right,

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It's not that I don't like him, but you wanted to go where

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the money was. And I'm not
saying I wouldn't have done the same thing

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that kind of cash for guys like
John Ram and Brooks, Koepka and Bryson

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Deshamba and you know Smith and Michelson
and all these other guys, right,

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I mean Cam Smith was hot as
a PGA player. He goes to live.

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Do you hear much about Cam Smith
at all? You can't sit there

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and be disappointed, slash upset.
And when you knew that contract, I'm

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sure people were there to tell you
what the outside consequences might be. Like

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you, no doubt, you still
get your endorsements, You get certain perks

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with it, financial perks with it, but there are other parts that you

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wish you could have that are just
not going to be available to you because

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of your decision. And also speaking
of golf, the Rocket Mortgage Classic which

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is played at the Detroit Golf Club
and it's coming up has added some pretty

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big names. In the past,
people have wondered a little bit, who's

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coming to Detroit middle of the summer
to play in this tournament outside a guy

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like Ricky Fowler, who is sponsored
by Rocket Mortgage. Well, you're getting

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more big names jumping on board.
And this is awesome when you can bring

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in Cam Young who's twenty third in
the world. Okay, ok Sha Batilla

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who's thirty one in the world and
a really good looking young player. And

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then you have bigger names like Stuart
Sink who won the British Open in two

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thousand and nine, Zach Johnson who
won the Masters that same year and the

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British Open in twenty fifteen, Gary
Woodland who won the twenty nineteen US Open.

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Those are good gets that's going to
help your tournament without a doubt.

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All right, let's get to a
little basketball. Last night, Celtics finish

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off and this was I think pretty
easy to predict. I said this yesterday.

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I said this will be the last
game of the year, and it

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was, and it was very decisive, really wasn't close. One oh six

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eighty eight the final. Boston outscored
by ten in the first outscored by eleven.

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In the second, game was basically
over. Dallas won two quarters,

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and immediately you think, well,
it's okay they won half the game.

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No, the two quarters they won, In the third they won by two

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points, and in the fourth they
won by a point. The game was

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already over. So who cares?
Right? How good? Borderline great?

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Was Jason Tatum thirty one points,
eight rebounds eleven is says? All right?

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Back padding time. I said before
this series, if you recall a

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couple of weeks ago, we did
a topic because there was a website that

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rated the best players in the series, and they had Luka Doncic as the

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number one player. They were probably
right from an offensive standpoint, No probably

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about it. Doncic on a losing
team let everybody in points, the rebounds

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and assists. I think he's the
first guy to do that in all those

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categories. I got to double check
that, but I'm pretty sure that's the

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case. I think he's the first
guy to be able to do that.

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It's a hell of an accomplishment.
He had a hell of a series,

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There's no doubt about it. But
it wasn't enough, obviously, So I

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said that he may be the best
offensive player, the most gifted offensive player

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in this series, and he led
the NBA in scoring, So you're about

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to assume something like that. I
said, I think the best player is

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Jalen Brown overall, the overall play
of Jalen Brown, his ability to score

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but primarily defend, and Jalen Brown
was named MVP. Now, Jalen Brown

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and the Celtics and Jason Tatum said
the same thing after the game. They

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were spurred on by what happened to
them in twenty twenty two in the finals

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against Golden State, who is third
all time in career championships. That never

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dawned on me until last night when
I'm watching the game and I see Boston

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with eighteen, Lakers was seventeen,
Golden State with seven, Chicago was six,

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sent Antonio with five, thinking wow, didn't right. The Golden State

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number surprised me anyway. They said
in twenty twenty two, you know it

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was tough. Now you and I
have had this discussion and I've kind of

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downplayed it, and I'll continue to
downplay it. When people feel like you

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have to learn your lesson if you're
going to win a championship, and I've

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had this discussion with a lot of
you, and you've brought up some really

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good points. The desire, the
strong push to win after you've been denied.

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It's a common phrase we use in
sports. You know they're going to

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be hungry is oftentimes what we say. You could use this Boston team as

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an example. You may use it
that, yes, they were hungry,

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this is why they won. I
would remind you they lost last year in

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the Eastern Conference Finals to Miami.
If Miami's so hungry, how come they

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didn't get there this year. So
there's a lot of different ways we can

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spin that. Bottom line is Boston
was the best team all season, and

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they were the best team in the
playoffs. They lost only three games in

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conversation on the Meyer hotline eight six
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or via the text Sports Radio to
twenty one thousand. We've talked already about

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the Tigers losing two to one.
You're gonna hear this on in the Den

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if these fine stations carry that short
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through Friday during baseball season. Dan
Dickerson and I both give you a little

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bit of insight into what's going on
with the Tigers and today. As I

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mentioned earlier in the show, I
talk about Reese Olsen in the lack of

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run support and the fact that the
Tigers in seventy two games, twenty two

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of those games thirty and a half
percent they have scored two runs or fewer.

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There's your issue, man, Not
that you didn't know it already,

519
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:22.480
because you did. But it is
a constant theme, a constant theme with

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this team, and it should be. They're back at it again tonight in

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00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:42.320
Atlanta, Celtics beat the Mavericks in
what would be your all time leader in

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00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:53.920
franchises championships eighteen for Boston, one
more than the Lakers. Rocket Mortgage Classic

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adds Cam Young and ax Sha Batilla
and Stewart Saying and Zack Johnson and Gary

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00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:07.800
Woodland. That's all great stuff.
And then you could see the NHL season

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00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:13.000
come to an end tonight in Florida, and that is where the Panthers try

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00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:19.239
and put away the Edmonton Oilers for
a second time. Last time out didn't

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go very well for them because Edmonton
blew them away. So Game five is

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00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:29.719
tonight. Looking forward to that,
really, am? I hope it does

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00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:32.559
not disappoint? All right? I
want to get to this. I want

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to get to the text here coming
up as well. But I did notice

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something pretty interesting in a New York
Times article yesterday, and it has to

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do with you already know my feelings
on this. It has to do with

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the City Connect uniforms. I cannot
stand the Tiger's City Connect uniforms. It's

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00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.320
like I see them play in those, and I think to myself, can

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00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:15.079
somebody find the nearest softball stadium,
nearest softball field, because that's what it

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00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:21.719
looks like to me. It's an
absolute farce to hear the president, not

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00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:25.599
Scott Harris, but to hear,
you know, Chris Ilich's right hand man,

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try to convince you in me that
it's a combination of retro and the

539
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:43.079
history of this franchise is comical.
There's nothing historical about it. Nothing,

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00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:52.719
there's no English d it's it's an
embarrassment for what it's worth, and oftentimes

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these things are very flawed. They
rank the City Connect uniforms the Athletic did

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I've found this in the New York
Times, but it was basically off the

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Athletic. The worst City Connect uniforms, according to this survey, is the

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Dodgers. The second worst is the
Tigers. You feel that's about right.

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First of all, I guess we
have to ask ourselves have we seen them

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all? I have not. I
haven't seen all the City Connect uniforms.

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But I do know you know where
this is a hopefully we all know this

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00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:51.039
by now. This is a one
big market employee. That's all it is.

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You know it. You're not immune
to it. You understand all of

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00:57:55.639 --> 00:58:01.519
it. There's no way you think
that this is something that teams are doing

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without some type of purpose. It's
not to try and give you a different

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look and all this other stuff.
Now, this is about selling uniforms.

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That's all it is. Here's what
they write about with the Tigers, and

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00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:20.679
it's a cumulative average, is what
it is. People vote on it.

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00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:30.280
Here's what they write an homage to
the Motor City's ingenuity. These unis feature

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several car inspired details. Yeah,
there's the connection, right, that's a

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00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:40.119
big connection to a lot of the
history that the Tigers have, including tire

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treads, vintags, and road signs. It's amazing to me that people can

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sit around a conference room table,
order lunch, have a discussion and say

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I've got an idea, let's have
tire treads on the uniform. Really worked

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00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:04.480
well for the Pistons. All it
does is open yourself up to all kinds

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00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:10.480
of comical satire where people are going, yeah, nice, job getting run

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00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:20.960
over again the debut May tenth,
twenty twenty four. Here's what some of

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00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:24.039
people write. At least in other
hype videos, they pretend to like the

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00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:29.280
new uniforms, but in this one, half the people are wearing regular Tiger's

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gear and they rap about the old
English Day, which only has a cameo

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00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:39.159
on the uniform sleeve patch. The
tire tracks look like the people wearing this

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00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:45.719
have been run over, which may
be an appropriate metaphor for the last decade

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00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:52.440
or so of Tigers baseball, but
it's hardly inspiring. Another person wrote,

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00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:59.480
this predictable Motor City theme is begging
for the Jaws of life. Its sheet

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00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:04.400
another dark jersey over dark pants combo
with a cap that looks like a mid

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01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:13.119
level prize option at a carnival.
That's well said. Here's one in case

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the Motor City nickname didn't give the
theme across. You got tire tracks down

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01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:22.480
the placket, a vintag on the
cap and helmet, and a sleeve patch

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designed like the m one road sign
we get it cars. It could have

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01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.320
been worse. I guess shocked that
the designers didn't just slap South Detroit across

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01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:36.679
the chest while they were at it. That's in reference to the Journey song

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01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:39.440
Don't Stop Believing. Lastly, somebody
wrote this, I'm fine with the motor

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01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:44.280
City, but it goes overboard with
the car references. Who wants a jersey

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01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:49.000
with tire marks? Thank you?
Might as well have used a license plate

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01:00:49.039 --> 01:01:00.480
for names on the back, exactly
exactly a lot of the things that my

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sentiment gave when I first saw them
back in early May. The best,

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01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:09.800
by the way, in case you
were wondering, I gave you the two

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worst people who feel like the best, the Colorado Rockies, which kills me

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01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:23.960
because it has absolutely no similar traits
or colors, I should say to their

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regular uniforms. And number two is
the Miami Marlins that ranks one and two

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in the City connect uniforms. Just
wanted to bring that to you because it's

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something that every time I see him
playing it, I shake my head and

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I think, no, no,
thank you. Don't like it, don't

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want it, don't want to see
it anymore, wouldn't wear it. If

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I see somebody in something like that, I am going to ask them,

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01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:02.199
please tell me, Please tell me, why what is it you like about

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that gorgeous plot of land, it's majestic.

607
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It's an absolute masterpiece. There's not
a bad hole on the track and

608
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:19.239
when you look at it and you
say to yourself, I want to play

609
01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:22.719
there. Be careful because it's challenging, but more importantly, soak it all

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01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:28.239
in because there's not many places like
it. Not just in the States,

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01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:30.639
not in the area, but I
would say in the entire United States.

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01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:34.840
When you go to Tullymore, you
get a chance to play not one,

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but two championship golf courses at an
affordable rate. On top of that,

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if you want to stay for the
weekend, and I would recommend you do,

615
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:50.559
the facilities are outstanding, with phenomenal
food and a chance to unwind after

616
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:53.079
a wonderful round of golf. You
have a chance to live there too.

617
01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:58.719
I'm not telling you too, but
there is real estate at Tullymore. You

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01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:02.559
can become a member there. There's
all kinds of different things you can do.

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No matter how you approach it full
time or once in a while,

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what you're gonna get is a pleasurable
experience with some of the greatest golf that

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you will ever witness. No matter
what time of the day, early in

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01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:21.679
the morning, early in the evening, it's breathtaking and it's worth it.

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Tullymore. Go to Tullymore Golf Dot
com I do. I would love to

624
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:43.000
play some golf at Tullymoore Saint Ives
today. Of course I can't because I've

625
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:48.679
got a messed up shoulder. Welcome
back X's and bros Meyer hotline eight sixty

626
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six eight three eight forty eight forty
three. We've got some text we've got

627
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:57.119
to get to, so Ben fire
away. Yeah, it says. I

628
01:04:57.239 --> 01:05:01.039
feel for Rory. It's tough to
see that happened right before your eyes.

629
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:05.519
A two and a half footer has
to go in, though Bryson's up and

630
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:11.760
down was amazing. Also, Bryson
deserves a ton of credit for scrambling that

631
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:15.679
last eighteen. That's why he's a
two time champ. Ron from spring Lake.

632
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:20.559
Yeah, good point, Ron,
I appreciate that very much. I

633
01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:32.239
guess I might counter that Rory McElroy's
won four so I mean, it's not

634
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.880
like he doesn't know what it takes. He's he's been on Ryder Cup champion

635
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:40.920
teams and been really good in those, by the way, and he's won

636
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:45.119
four major championships. Are you telling
me? I don't think Ron is,

637
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:48.000
but are you telling me he doesn't
know how to finish? He doesn't know

638
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:53.079
how to win them? Come on, of course he does, but it's

639
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:59.000
a good text. Yes, I'm
with you. You gotta make those putts.

640
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:02.280
I'm not gonna disagree that. You
know, you can't fall apart.

641
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:09.280
Might be a little bit of a
strong phrase, but you can't finish around

642
01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:14.840
that way. But I would remind
you that eight on eighteen. Look,

643
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:18.440
these guys get paid a lot of
money. This is their jobs. You

644
01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:23.000
and I missed that. Ron.
It's okay, I get it. Oh

645
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:26.559
you didn't play it quite outside far
enough. Oh boy, you hit it

646
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:31.599
a little too strong. Whatever.
These guys aren't playing for a nineteenth hole

647
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:39.159
beer. They're not playing for some
made up trophy with their buddies on a

648
01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:45.800
weekend outing or some type of special
high school colors of a jacket. Right.

649
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:54.719
I speak from experience on that.
Yeah, so you're right, you

650
01:06:54.920 --> 01:07:00.639
have to You have to make those
pots that would have got him to a

651
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:05.440
playoff. As it turns out,
what would have happened after that, who

652
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:12.599
knows, But Ron, you're right. You gotta get it done. Like

653
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:18.119
I said before, though, Rory
McElroy knows what it takes to get it

654
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:25.119
done because he's done it, and
he's done it more often than Bryce and

655
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:32.679
Deshamba, he just didn't do it
this time. Any other texts, Yeah,

656
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:35.880
we got one more about Cam Sutton. It says, how does this

657
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:41.719
happen? Lions defensive back Cam Sutton
is arrested for domestic violence, which is

658
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:45.800
a felony, and the Lions immediately
release him. Later, the charge is

659
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:48.000
reduced to a misdemeanor, and he
quickly signs with his former team, the

660
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:58.440
Pittsburgh Steelers. Well, there's a
certain element that Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell

661
01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:09.000
have built with this Lions team.
They want certain types of guys. I'm

662
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:14.079
not sure what you're referring to.
How does this happen? Are you saying

663
01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:18.319
you want him back? Or they
jumped the gun? Are you saying that

664
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:23.800
he's going to be missed? I
think they're going to be just fine without

665
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:29.319
him. All right, let me
ask you this, How good was he

666
01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:35.760
that it made you say? Or
what did he do so well that made

667
01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:44.319
you think there's no way you can
get rid of him. Some would argue

668
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:51.199
he's a bit of a disappointment after
they brought him in. I don't have

669
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:58.199
a problem with it none whatsoever.
Now, especially because of who you signed

670
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:01.560
in the off season, Carlton Davis
and who you drafted Terry on Arnold us

671
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:09.960
Reichstraw and the expectations there. So
I'm I have no problem with it.

672
01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:14.920
There is something to be said.
Nobody's perfect, we all know that,

673
01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:27.039
but there is something to be said
for organizations having certain scruples. And if

674
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:31.159
you felt like that crossed a line, most of us would. Most of

675
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:38.359
us would not want to employ someone
who is guilty of those types of charges.

676
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:46.279
Then I think it's fair to say
that the Lions have a certain line

677
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:55.880
that they felt he crossed. Cool, you got principles, now you better

678
01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:59.680
stay too. It's true, stay
true to them. But I have no

679
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:05.159
problem with it. Let me get
to this interesting article. I love this

680
01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:10.920
read. It said, it was
courtesy of ESPN plus every Major League Baseball

681
01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:17.399
team's longest All Star positional drought?
How long has it been since this team

682
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:25.319
sent this position to the All Star
Game? So what do you immediately?

683
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:30.199
Do? You immediately go to your
team? Right, of course, so

684
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:38.520
the Tigers. What position? This
surprised me? Quite honestly, it really

685
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:45.600
surprised me. What position has been
the longest drought for the Tigers as an

686
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:57.119
All Star? It's center field?
The last All Star as a center fielder

687
01:10:57.159 --> 01:11:01.800
for the Tigers was Curtis Granderson in
two thousand and nine. Here's what they

688
01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:06.000
write, The Tigers have had the
least impressive list of All Stars in recent

689
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:14.399
seasons, Michael Lorenzen in twenty twenty
three and a string of relievers before that,

690
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:19.520
and other than Miguel Cabrera's honorary selection
in twenty twenty two. Great point,

691
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:26.920
they haven't had a position player make
it since Justin Upton in twenty seventeen.

692
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:33.279
Man, it's a long time.
It's a long time to a lot

693
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:40.840
of people don't believe you should have
every team should be represented. I understand

694
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:43.880
both sides of that. I'm not
trying to be you know, mister Waffler

695
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:46.720
here. I understand both sides of
that argument. I think, if you

696
01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:53.920
know, everybody wants to see their
guy get into a game like that,

697
01:11:54.920 --> 01:12:00.119
but the game isn't all that If
it doesn't mean that much much, what's

698
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:08.159
the harm in having at least one
player represented, or at least one organization

699
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:13.279
represented by at least one player.
I don't think there's a problem with If

700
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:17.920
there's more at stake, then I
completely understand why people would have an issue

701
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:26.640
with that, but there isn't,
so I'm okay with every team being represented

702
01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:31.279
now. Sometimes the unfortunate part of
that is sometimes it means, oftentimes it

703
01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:39.119
means certain players who deserve to go
will not go. Ask them. Depending

704
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:44.239
on how long it's been since they've
last gone to the All Star Game or

705
01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:46.640
if they've ever gone to the All
Star Game, some people will opt out

706
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:49.840
of it anyway. They have no
problem with it, they want the days

707
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:57.279
off. Okay, fine, so
this article continues. Center Field has been

708
01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:00.199
a huge problem for a decade now, since Austin Jackson was traded during the

709
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:04.439
twenty fourteen season. Right, Remember
he was taken off the field during the

710
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:11.720
game. After a five year run
as the starting center fielder, the Tigers

711
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:17.680
are now on their tenth different starter
in eleven seasons, with only Anthony Goos

712
01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:24.119
in twenty fifteen starting more than one
hundred games. There. Three players have

713
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:29.600
started at least ten games there in
twenty twenty four So you've got Parker metals

714
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:32.800
obviously. You've got Riley Green,
even though he hasn't started ten games just

715
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:39.800
yet. You've got Matt Vierling who
can shift over right, all that stuff

716
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:44.760
Granderson was the team's regular center fielder
from two thousand and six through two thousand

717
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:47.039
and nine, before he was traded
to the Yankees and a three team deal

718
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:51.760
that brought Max Schurzer to Detroit.
While Granderson's best season with the Tigers came

719
01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:55.199
in two thousand and seven, when
he hit three to zero two with twenty

720
01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:59.000
three triples, his All Star appearance
came in two thousand and nine, and

721
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:04.640
he remains the old only center field
selection for Detroit since chet Lemon started in

722
01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:12.119
nineteen eighty four. Granderson later added
two more All Star trips with the Yankees.

723
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:21.119
Boy, that tells you something,
doesn't it. Honestly, when you've

724
01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:31.199
got a team that is recently been
built on one guy going to the All

725
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:41.720
Star Game out of it's only because
of a rule. It's not like they

726
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:46.520
necessarily deserve it. It's because you've
got to have one team represented. I

727
01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:49.880
think about that quite a bit right
around this time. I think about,

728
01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:58.600
Okay, people are sitting around a
room and they're saying, we got to

729
01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:05.119
have this guy deserves to go whoever
that may be Aaron Judge, this guy

730
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:12.000
deserves to go again, whoever that
may be Bobby Witt. But we've got

731
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.520
to make sure we get this team
White Sox, this team the Tigers,

732
01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:24.880
this team Tampa represented. So what
do you do? Last year? It

733
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:32.119
was Michael Lorenzen two years ago Cabrera
because he was an honorary one. You

734
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:38.640
know, they were make sure him
and Poolhols were there. Greg Risoto was

735
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:44.720
the guy they took to make sure
every team was represented. Greg Risoto and

736
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:49.720
Greg Risoto went back to back years. Twenty nineteen, it was Shane Greeny.

737
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:56.159
Eighteen, it was Joejimenez. Twenty
seventeen, was Michael Fulmer and Justin

738
01:15:56.239 --> 01:16:05.039
Upton. Twenty fifteen. My immediate
thought was shortstop. When I read this

739
01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:10.600
headline, I thought to myself,
well, shortstop. Their shortstops have been

740
01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:15.159
awful. There's an interesting article in
the Detroit Free Press not too long ago

741
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:23.159
about just how bad Detroit's wins above
replacement are at that position this year,

742
01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:28.000
and how long it has been since
they actually had a guy who you would

743
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:38.279
boast about in that type of statistic. Historically it's been horrible. Then you

744
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:42.079
look back and you go, wait
a minute, Jose Iglesias actually made the

745
01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:46.399
All Star team in twenty fifteen.
Is a shortstop. Cabrera went there as

746
01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:49.720
a first baseman. JD. Martinez
went there as an outfielder, and David

747
01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:56.600
Price went there as a pitcher.
Maybe you feel like, okay, twenty

748
01:16:56.760 --> 01:17:00.000
fifteen, that's really not that long
ago, folks, it's nine years ago.

749
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:04.640
Go for craning out loud. You
had a nice stretch there, didn't

750
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:09.800
you. You had a nice stretch
where you were sending guys on a regular

751
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:14.560
basis where other teams, other organizations, other fan bases were looking at it

752
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:17.479
going, wow, we wish we
had fill in the blank. Two thousand

753
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:23.479
and six, Kenny Rodgers, Ivon
Rodriguez, Magli Ordoniez two thousand and seven,

754
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:28.840
Carlos Gian, Magliordoniez, Placido Polanco, Ivon Rodriguez, Justin Verlander.

755
01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:35.720
That's representation right. Twenty eleven,
Alexavila, Miguel Cabrera, Johnny Peralta,

756
01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:42.239
Jose Valverde, Justin Verlander. Whether
you think they're deserving or not, these

757
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:48.199
are the guys that were chosen to
go. You're talking about five players in

758
01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:57.119
twenty eleven, held twenty thirteen.
You had Cabrera, Prince Fielder, Tory

759
01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:00.880
Hunter, Johnny Peralta, Max Schurz
or just In Verlander. Six guys are

760
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:06.680
wearing the old English d in the
All Star festivities. Now you have been

761
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:12.960
labeled, well, we got to
get somebody from Detroit, so let's pick

762
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:23.000
this guy out. You see how
far you've fallen. It's borderline depressing.

763
01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:30.880
Shane Green, Joe Jimenez, Joe
Jimenez. People couldn't wait to get him

764
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:34.159
out of Detroit and he was an
All Star in two thousand and eighteen.

765
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:44.760
Are you kidding me? Michael Lorenzen
was a trade chip. Really, he's

766
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:50.159
the representative representative of the Tigers to
be an All Star. Yep, that's

767
01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:55.680
what you're looking at. That's what
it's come to. If you don't believe

768
01:18:55.720 --> 01:19:00.920
a lot of the things that I've
said about drafting and developing and missing out

769
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:02.920
on certain guys, because we brought
it up yesterday with Derek Hill in twenty

770
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:05.680
fourteen and they had a chance for
Matt Chapman and some of the other things

771
01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:12.159
that we've discussed in the past,
because you're bound to miss on some draft

772
01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:15.560
picks. Again, I'll reiterate,
I don't think you can afford to do

773
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:17.840
that on a first round pick when
you're a team like Detroit. Detroit and

774
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:23.520
Milwaukee, and teams like that,
they can't afford to do this. Teams

775
01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:28.520
that spend big money they can overcome
stuff like that. Teams that bring in

776
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.600
a lot of coin because of their
TV deals and because of their gates,

777
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:34.880
and because of their marketing and their
merchandising and all that other stuff, they

778
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:42.199
can afford to swing and miss on
a first round pick because they can make

779
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:47.640
it up. They have the money
to lose. Teams like Detroit, Tampa,

780
01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:55.760
Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Kansas City,
Milwaukee, they don't. So if

781
01:19:55.760 --> 01:20:00.479
they spend If you spend eight million
dollars on a first round pick and he

782
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:08.359
doesn't hit, you can't make that
up. Yankees have no problem with that.

783
01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:10.399
Well we swung and miss. That's
s right, we'll make it up.

784
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:21.279
We'll get this free agent. Tigers
can't do that. It's amazing how

785
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:27.800
far they have fallen in such a
short period of time. If you don't

786
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:30.640
think it's a long time ago where
they had that many and you feel like,

787
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.079
wow, see we can get back
there. I look at it like,

788
01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:38.159
you know what, if you're going
to say it's not that long ago,

789
01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:41.600
it's not that long ago, and
look at the All Star selection since

790
01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:48.199
how bad it is and how they've
been basically forced into the game because you've

791
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:53.000
got to have at least one guy
representing your team, and that's all you

792
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:58.199
deserve. And you can make the
argument that you don't this year, well,

793
01:20:58.319 --> 01:21:00.600
Trek schou will of course, of
course he deserves to be there.

794
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:06.800
Meyer Hotline eighty six to six eight
three eight forty eight forty three the texta

795
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:12.479
line Sports Radio to twenty one thousand
final hour of Exes and Bros. Coming

796
01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:15.920
up in a brief after a brief
time out, and we will get to

797
01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:25.239
the homework that one player had from
the NBA Finals when he had played for

798
01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:30.159
a specific team. And I wonder
what that homework assignment would be for players

799
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:33.239
who are thinking about playing in Detroit. We'll get to that on the other

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01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:36.720
side as we begin the final hour
of Exes and Bros. On a Tuesday

801
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:40.960
morning across the great state of Michigan. What's up, Michigan. I want

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to give some love to Ben Glaze
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I told our players you needy bit
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a bunch of cats in here looking
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We need more dolls. At the
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weren't good. There's no sense asking
me things about the game. I'm telling

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you we laid an egg. So
I'm not going to break it down for

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you. He sucks. He sucked, but he laid an egg. That's

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all I have to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not going to

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break it down for you. And
nothing went well for us. It's on

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us. We have to figure it
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asks for the Lions the biggest offseason
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Saint Brown, Penna Sewell and Jared
Goff to extensions? Was it signing Dan

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Campbell and Brad Holmes to extensions?
Was it making sure Ben Johnson chose to

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stay or drafting Terry on Arnold.
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x x'es and bros. It is
it is. Originally when I put this

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together, when Ben and I were
talking, I said to myself, you

835
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know, I think it might be
Ben Johnson and the reason I say that

836
01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:34.960
is because the players had another year
left on their contracts, right, I

837
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mean Goff had another year. Penney
sewell, I think I'm on Ron Sayin

838
01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:44.479
Brown did as well. I don't
think Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes were going

839
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any I don't think it was necessarily
you didn't have to do it all right.

840
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I like the draft pick of Terry
and Arnold, but Ben Johnson,

841
01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:57.520
Look, the lines really didn't from
what I can tell, didn't do anything

842
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:02.319
to necessarily keep him. Okay,
he chose to stay, which is great.

843
01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:08.520
I think it's really important that he
turned down head coaching opportunities to remain

844
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:15.359
in his current role as offensive coordinator
and see this thing through. Because of

845
01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:21.039
how successful he has been and how
this offense has adapted. It's I think

846
01:25:21.079 --> 01:25:28.039
it's really important that offenses or players
I should say in those offenses or on

847
01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:32.840
defenses in this case too, for
the Lions are able to stay in a

848
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:39.880
system they're comfortable with and they know
now it helps that works. You don't

849
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:46.199
want a system where you got players
not succeeding. When they're failing, you

850
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:50.560
got to change the system. When
they're successful. You'd like to keep that

851
01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:57.680
system. You get a new offensive
coordinator into this situation and he's going to

852
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:00.279
change the system because he wants to, but his own stamp on things.

853
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:04.880
He's not going to run Ben Johnson's
offense. He's gonna run his own offense.

854
01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:12.760
And Ben Johnson staying could have left
a year ago, could have left

855
01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:16.239
two years ago. I should say
for Carolina chose to stay gets them to

856
01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:21.199
or big reason why he gets them
to an NFC title game. Now,

857
01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:26.159
this year, you're hoping that he
turns down opportunities, and there were plenty

858
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:30.279
out there that had him rumored to
whether it be Seattle or Washington where he

859
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:36.439
could have gone, and you're hoping
they finally kicked the door in. That'll

860
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:41.319
make his stock even higher because there
will be opportunities next year. There's no

861
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:45.000
doubt about that happens every year.
But for him to be part of this

862
01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:50.960
and for him to be the guy
at the helm with all these players believing

863
01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:57.920
in him, seeing the results,
understanding that this is a big reason for

864
01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:03.680
their success and their financial stability.
His offense has helped a lot of those

865
01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:13.119
guys create personal wealth. I'm not
alluding to them giving him money. I'm

866
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:19.600
just saying their skill set has been
highlighted by his offensive vision. Something to

867
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:24.159
be said for that. You can
vote as often as you like, will

868
01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:29.840
give you the results right around this
time tomorrow morning here on Xies and Bros.

869
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They did have according to a number
of different websites, but the Lions

870
01:27:36.039 --> 01:27:45.479
did have one of the biggest off
seasons in the National Football League because of

871
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:49.640
those things that we just brought up. Because they re signed Aman Rossain Brown

872
01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:58.720
and Penney Sewel and Jared Goff,
Because they did address certain needs like signing

873
01:27:59.039 --> 01:28:04.720
edge rusher Marcus Stavenport defensive tackle Dj
Reader. Because they did trade for a

874
01:28:04.840 --> 01:28:10.880
veteran cornerback to come in and if
not be their number one, compete to

875
01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:15.720
be their number one, with terry
On Arnold being the other. Because they

876
01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:24.239
doubled down. I'm bringing in the
secondary help of Arnold and Rakestraw. But

877
01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:30.920
Ben Johnson turning down head coaching opportunities
to stay as the OC tells you a

878
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:35.680
lot about a the organization. Be
Dan Campbell and his staff and see the

879
01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:44.680
skills of the players Ben Johnson has
at his disposal. Let's hope it was

880
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:48.079
not for naught. Let's hope it
was for a reason and that at the

881
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:53.600
end of the year. In twenty
twenty four Slash twenty twenty five, Ben

882
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:57.319
Johnson's going, this is the reason
I came back. Hey, listen,

883
01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:04.840
Sometimes the best moves are the moves
that aren't made. We can use it

884
01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:12.079
as an example for last night.
How many times do you think Brad Stevens,

885
01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:15.600
who runs the Celtics now, how
many times do you think people told

886
01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:23.279
him you might want to consider breaking
up your dynamic duo because you haven't won

887
01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:29.520
a championship. You might want to
consider going in a different direction and not

888
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:35.479
necessarily blowing your team up, but
at least dividing it enough where you can

889
01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:41.680
get other talent into the fold and
have a different feel, slash look to

890
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:46.640
it. He didn't do that.
He tweaked here, he tweaked there,

891
01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:55.119
But in the end he left the
two most important pieces to his team intact.

892
01:29:55.399 --> 01:30:01.920
When others were saying, it doesn't
work with Brown and Tatum, let's

893
01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:06.880
move on and keep one of them, get all ransom for the other,

894
01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:15.159
and try to pair the guy we
keep with somebody else. Brad Stevens never

895
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:20.680
caved to that belief. He stuck
to his principles. He kept his two

896
01:30:20.840 --> 01:30:29.359
big stars intact, and it paid
off for them. Now, if it

897
01:30:29.439 --> 01:30:35.680
doesn't, you're probably talking about a
different narrative here today. But that's not

898
01:30:35.760 --> 01:30:40.880
the point. The point is that
it did. I wonder how many people

899
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:45.079
in Dallas are saying the same thing
right now. Because Kyrie Irving, as

900
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:49.960
much as I like him, the
Dynai player, as much as you may

901
01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:55.479
like him, you would have to
admit the finals were a struggle for him.

902
01:30:56.319 --> 01:31:01.039
He did not perform very well in
the NBA Finals. Luka Doncic did

903
01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:10.159
hard to argue with a man who
leads the Finals in scoring and rebounding and

904
01:31:10.239 --> 01:31:16.279
in assists. Now, as I've
said before, his defense has a lot

905
01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:25.960
to be desired. And that's the
thing that I couldn't figure out. Why

906
01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:35.760
does it take the Dallas Mavericks four
games to figure out how important their defensive

907
01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:41.520
intensity was to win at least a
game in the series. I'm not gonna

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I don't think that the Dallas was
content on winning one game, or at

909
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least we didn't get swept. That's
a narrative screamed by people who just want

910
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attention from the national media. I
want to see a team that isn't accepting

911
01:31:58.640 --> 01:32:02.039
at least we didn't get swept.
They want a game. That's such a

912
01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:09.399
naive point of view. It's such
a low hanging fruit easy way to talk

913
01:32:09.399 --> 01:32:17.279
about something. There's no thought to
that whatsoever. It's just an easy thing

914
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to say, and it makes you
sound like you don't understand the sport.

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runs and change is among the fewest
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two games the Tigers have played,
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two times. That's over thirty percent
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check them out today? You see
who's going to be on Hard Knocks this

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year? Do you like that series? Do you watch it? I think

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at times when I've watched it,
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stuff that's not real. I think
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This year, the nd season Hard
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for the first time in the history of

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this program that an entire division is
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throughout the year. It's going to
follow the Ravens, the Bengals, the

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Browns, and the Steelers. You
could make the argument that this division has

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the league's best rivalries. You may
disagree with it, but you can under

964
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stand where I'm coming from. At
least I hope that the rivalries are there.

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Think about it for a minute.
Give me the rivalries in the AFC

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East. I'll wait now, you
don't have them the AFC South. We

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can move quickly past that. Love
the Raiders and Chiefs. In the AFC

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West, I'm not sure it goes
much past that. NFC East used to

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love Cowboys and Redskins. That would
be the argument is the NFC East.

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But that's because so many fan bases
hate the Cowboys. There's really nothing in

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the NFC South, nothing in the
NFC West. In the NFC North,

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the oldest is you know, involves
Packers and Bears. Lions are in the

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mix for consecutive games played against a
specific team, Packers. Something to be

974
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said for that. I don't know
how many people outside Detroit, Green Bay,

975
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Minnesota and Chicago understand those rivalries.
I've always wondered how people view the

976
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Lions and that division. I think
a lot of people look at the Lions

977
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and what do they immediately think?
They think? Thanksgiving Day? What else

978
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would be? What else is that
organization? Until last year? What else

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is the organization given fans outside of
Detroit to identify with? Barry Sanders,

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Sure, Calvin Johnson, Okay,
maybe a guy like Matthew Stafford as of

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late. Some really good players,
no doubt. But in general, I

982
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think it's, well, it's Thanksgiving
Day. See Green Bay gives you out

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the title town, and then you
start reeling off their great quarterbacks, Bart

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Starr and Brett Farv and Aaron Rodgers, the legendary people who have been there.

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I think the AFC North, with
those teams playing against one another,

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and how Cleveland can't stand Pittsburgh,
and how Pittsburgh can't stand Baltimore, and

987
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how Cincinnati can't stand any of them, I think it's good stuff. I

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think it's going to be very compelling
to do that. Hard Knocks is going

989
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to premiere Tuesday, December third,
at nine o'clock. That's when all the

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highlights from all four teams throughout the
twenty twenty four season will air. So

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you're going to see the fact that
each team plays the other twice during the

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regular season, following those teams,
how they adjust, and all that other

993
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stuff. First time in NFL history
in which all four teams in a single

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division had a winning record, and
that was a year ago, thirteen and

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four for Baltimore, eleven and six
for Cleveland, ten and seven for Pittsburgh,

996
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nine and eight for Cincinnati. Makes
sense that that's the division they would

997
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choose. The off season version,
okay, which comes out July second,

998
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is going to highlight the Giants.
The training camp version is going to highlight

999
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the Bears. That's how it's evolved. That's how the show has evolved.

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It's gone from training camp to more. Now it's what are you doing in

1001
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the off season. There's your Giants
training camp stays because it's been a huge

1002
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success. There's your Chicago and then
what happens during the regular season. There's

1003
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your division. That's what you're going
to get from Hard Knocks this year.

1004
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Pretty awesome stuff. Another example of
the NFL telling its teams, please cooperate,

1005
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do what you're supposed to do.
We need it now. They don't

1006
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need it from the standpoint of nobody's
watching the NFL. They just need it

1007
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because they want to stay front and
center top mind awareness. Nobody better nobody.

1008
01:41:55.760 --> 01:42:00.680
I'm not sure there's a company that
does it better than that National Football

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League. It helps that the thirst
is never quenched for football fans and sports

1010
01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:17.880
fans in general. It helps that
it was really the pioneer when it came

1011
01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:26.279
to sports gambling. Get out in
front of it. Make sure you're controlling

1012
01:42:26.319 --> 01:42:35.359
that message more so than anybody else. It's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. See.

1013
01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:40.000
I don't think teams like it.
I don't think players like it.

1014
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:43.039
I don't think coaches like it.
I think they do it because they have

1015
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:47.560
to. Because Roger Goodell has told
all his owners, this is how we

1016
01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:55.119
make even even bigger money. Give
them something they can't get every single day.

1017
01:42:55.520 --> 01:43:01.239
Now they can. So fans always
want. We get players miked up,

1018
01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:04.439
that's great. We get interviews with
coaches and players, that's great too.

1019
01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:09.520
We want to see the behind the
scenes stuff. We want to know

1020
01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:14.239
what it's like to be in one
of the running backs rooms. We want

1021
01:43:14.279 --> 01:43:17.199
to know what it's like to hear
be on the receiving end of a head

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01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:24.680
coach or a position coaching ramp rant
I should say. And that's what Hard

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01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:30.760
Knocks gives us. It'll always be
popular. There's your lineup for twenty twenty

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four. All right, when we
come back, As I mentioned before,

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I wanted to bring you this homework
assignment and what it would be for a

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01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:47.439
basketball player in choosing the Pistons as
a free agent. We'll get to that

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01:43:47.479 --> 01:43:51.760
when we return. On Exes and
Bros. After this. Hey, Michigan,

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Thanks for sticking around on Exus and
Bros. Love being on Monday through

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Friday six until nine and talking with
you across the great state of Michigan.

1036
01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:56.840
Myer Hotline eighty sixty six eight three
eight forty eight forty three the text line

1037
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Sports Radio to twenty one. Kyrie
Irving did not have a great NBA Finals.

1038
01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:11.279
He was a huge reason why Dallas
got to the NBA Finals in the

1039
01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:15.880
first place, but he did not
perform very well against his old team.

1040
01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:19.760
Boston wins it last night, running
away with the championship in five games,

1041
01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:26.720
their eighteenth all time title, and
Jylen Brown was the MVP. Kyrie Irving

1042
01:45:26.760 --> 01:45:31.319
once played for the Celtics. He
spoke during that time of how he was

1043
01:45:31.359 --> 01:45:35.800
going to stay there, resign with
Boston, changed his mind and moved on.

1044
01:45:38.279 --> 01:45:42.439
He was asked about it prior to
Game five. He said this,

1045
01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:46.439
you just expect to have a magnifying
glass on you everywhere you go. I

1046
01:45:46.439 --> 01:45:51.000
don't think Boston appreciates being kind of
second class to New York in terms of

1047
01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:56.560
media capital world, but this is
a media capital of the world as well.

1048
01:45:56.840 --> 01:46:02.920
There's a lot of history here off
the court, the communities integrated into

1049
01:46:02.960 --> 01:46:06.760
the Celtics team. That's probably the
best way I can say it. The

1050
01:46:06.800 --> 01:46:14.399
community is what the Celtics makes the
Celtics great. The Boston pandemonium, that's

1051
01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:17.840
what makes this space so loud and
so special, and they take pride in

1052
01:46:17.880 --> 01:46:24.520
it. If any player makes this
space so loud and so special, if

1053
01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:29.079
they get here drafted or thinking about
coming here as a free agent or getting

1054
01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:33.399
traded, just do your homework and
make sure you know what you're getting yourself

1055
01:46:33.439 --> 01:46:40.680
into. So we're well aware of
what took place after that, right I

1056
01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:46.000
mean, or before all this.
He was in Boston requested a trade from

1057
01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:53.119
the Cavaliers in twenty seventeen. That
was soon after he helped the Cabs win

1058
01:46:53.159 --> 01:47:00.359
their first ever championship. He gets
traded to Boston and he sitting to play

1059
01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:03.479
there for a while, wanted to
have his He's someone who said he wanted

1060
01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:10.319
his jersey hanging from the rafters.
Right. Well, it didn't work out

1061
01:47:10.319 --> 01:47:15.600
the way he thought there. But
when he made that comment, my immediate

1062
01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:23.279
thought is, obviously it comes to
Detroit. What do athletes have to do

1063
01:47:23.359 --> 01:47:29.600
their homework or what's involved in their
homework as they get ready to play in

1064
01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:38.159
Detroit. What do you think that's
all about, Whether it's a basketball player

1065
01:47:38.199 --> 01:47:44.159
or anybody, what do you think
what would your advice be to an athlete

1066
01:47:44.199 --> 01:47:53.199
who's doing their homework on Detroit to
play in this market, not like it's

1067
01:47:53.239 --> 01:48:00.319
the media capital of the world like
in New York, or to a certain

1068
01:48:00.319 --> 01:48:08.279
extent, as Kyrie Irving puts it, Boston. What would you tell an

1069
01:48:08.359 --> 01:48:15.239
athlete who gets traded here, signed
Carlton Davis, signs as a free agent

1070
01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:25.560
here, Marcus Davenport, or gets
drafted here, Terry on Arnold. I'm

1071
01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:30.159
just using football as the example.
Right now, sign as a free agent,

1072
01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:36.880
Orchelle or Kanna right Bay as before
that, gets drafted here. When

1073
01:48:36.920 --> 01:48:41.359
you get drafted to a place,
you know, keep in mind, you

1074
01:48:41.439 --> 01:48:47.079
and I we follow Detroit sports all
a lot closer than any athlete does.

1075
01:48:47.319 --> 01:48:53.359
We probably follow sports closer than athletes. Most of them, some of them

1076
01:48:53.439 --> 01:49:01.399
are junkies like us. Many of
them played fantasy sports like you do.

1077
01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:12.600
They're not so involved in every single
sport in every single city. Hell a

1078
01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:15.279
lot of times they're not even involved
in the cities in which they play.

1079
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:20.079
Oh, never been to a Red
Wings game. What, No, I

1080
01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:25.720
haven't see when their season gets ready
to begin, at least the you know,

1081
01:49:25.800 --> 01:49:29.319
the training camp. We're at the
end of our season and then I

1082
01:49:29.399 --> 01:49:32.640
go back home to Texas or Florida
or California or wherever it may be.

1083
01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:38.840
Oh so, how often are they
watching a Red Wings game? Not very?

1084
01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:43.840
How often are they going to a
Lions game? Not very? They

1085
01:49:43.880 --> 01:49:48.680
got their day off, what are
they doing exhaling? They're taking a break,

1086
01:49:48.720 --> 01:49:56.800
man, So they're probably not doing
that Number one and number two even

1087
01:49:56.840 --> 01:50:00.960
if they had the chance to do
it. Detroit's their favorite team. These

1088
01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:09.079
guys are I'm from here. Maybe
they have a chance where they get to

1089
01:50:09.079 --> 01:50:12.600
know some of the players on the
other teams in the market, which isn't

1090
01:50:12.640 --> 01:50:15.600
always the case, but maybe they
get a chance to do that and they

1091
01:50:15.640 --> 01:50:19.479
take advantage of a game here or
a game there. They're not keeping up

1092
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:28.359
on it like you and I are. So when you have these athletes doing

1093
01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:32.079
their quote unquote homework, what is
it about Detroit? What is it about

1094
01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:38.920
the state of Michigan that they are
you would have them at least research.

1095
01:50:41.840 --> 01:50:49.800
What are you getting yourself into.
I think what you're getting yourself into in

1096
01:50:49.880 --> 01:51:00.039
Detroit or the state of Michigan is
a friendly place where they can leave you

1097
01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:05.079
alone and are not too hard on
you. And Wardo Rodriguez told me this.

1098
01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:08.399
I think it was last year,
maybe it was two years ago.

1099
01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:14.199
He and I were I was in
the dugout before a broadcast and he was

1100
01:51:14.239 --> 01:51:17.760
coming off throwing. He wasn't pitching
that day, but he was walking by

1101
01:51:17.840 --> 01:51:23.159
and he walks through the dugout and
we say hello, and he stops and

1102
01:51:23.479 --> 01:51:28.039
he sits down on the dugout steps
or on the on the dugout bench,

1103
01:51:28.680 --> 01:51:32.800
and we just start talking. And
I said to him, Hey, just

1104
01:51:32.840 --> 01:51:36.760
out of curiosity, what is it
that you like about where you live?

1105
01:51:36.800 --> 01:51:40.520
Because he lived in Birmingham. What
is he like? He says, you

1106
01:51:40.520 --> 01:51:44.439
know what I like about this place? Why I really like Detroit? He

1107
01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:48.760
said, My family and I can
go out and people recognize who I am,

1108
01:51:49.079 --> 01:51:56.199
but they leave me alone. They
respect my space, which I thought

1109
01:51:56.239 --> 01:52:04.199
was a awesome b pretty damn interesting
because you don't find that very often even

1110
01:52:04.279 --> 01:52:11.840
here and seeing refreshing. On the
other hand, I also found it to

1111
01:52:11.840 --> 01:52:16.279
be well, you know, is
is that a sign of respect? Is

1112
01:52:16.279 --> 01:52:23.840
that a sign of genuine understanding and
concern for another individual. Or is it

1113
01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:27.479
a sign of I don't really know
who you are or I don't really care

1114
01:52:27.520 --> 01:52:32.319
who you are. You can put
it all, I suppose into one big

1115
01:52:32.359 --> 01:52:39.680
answer. Not sure. My dad
one time ran into Lance Parish at the

1116
01:52:39.720 --> 01:52:45.680
post office in Farmington Hills and he
came home. He was mailing something.

1117
01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:49.279
Obviously, he comes home and I
remember him telling us, Hey, I

1118
01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:55.279
just guess who I just saw.
Who? Did you see Lance Parish at

1119
01:52:55.279 --> 01:52:59.520
the post office? And I remember
saying, oh, my gosh, did

1120
01:52:59.520 --> 01:53:03.439
you get his offtograph? Didn't have
cell phones back then, so I didn't

1121
01:53:03.439 --> 01:53:06.960
say did you get a picture with
him? But did you get an autograph?

1122
01:53:08.439 --> 01:53:13.760
No? He said, the man
has a day off. I'm going

1123
01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:18.520
to let the man be. I'm
going to let him have some personal time,

1124
01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:26.680
which I really admire my father doing
that at the time. But it

1125
01:53:26.720 --> 01:53:30.439
also makes me understand what type of
people we have in the state. For

1126
01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:36.800
the most part, and I've said
this a lot since being here. The

1127
01:53:36.840 --> 01:53:40.279
thing I like about is, you
know, you want to raise your family

1128
01:53:40.319 --> 01:53:45.520
in these places because people are genuine. I've always found that about not just

1129
01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:51.039
Michigan, but the Midwest in general, what would the homework assignment be for

1130
01:53:51.239 --> 01:53:57.279
you to give to a pending free
agent if they were coming here. If

1131
01:53:57.319 --> 01:54:02.920
you're talking about a specific player in
a trade, why here? What makes

1132
01:54:02.960 --> 01:54:11.039
it great? Maybe you get something
for me? Meyer hotline is open eight

1133
01:54:11.079 --> 01:54:14.760
sixty six eight three, eight forty
eight forty three. The text line is

1134
01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:20.520
sports Radio to twenty one thousand.
The frustrating thing is and maybe this is

1135
01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:27.319
a good thing for players and coaches
and stuff. Is the expectation. Now,

1136
01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:31.319
maybe I'm reading too much into it
because of the time that we're experiencing,

1137
01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:35.840
the struggles of the Pistons, the
struggles of the Wings, and the

1138
01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:43.640
struggles of the Tigers collectively. This
goes back to what we were seeing in

1139
01:54:44.039 --> 01:54:47.319
the six o'clock hour and what we've
said before when I started this show that

1140
01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:51.319
today we talked about the Tigers losing
two to one. We talked about Rhys

1141
01:54:51.439 --> 01:54:57.640
Olsen not getting run support, among
the worst in all of baseball going into

1142
01:54:57.640 --> 01:55:01.640
his start two point three runs per
game in his fourteen in his thirteen starts.

1143
01:55:01.760 --> 01:55:04.760
He made his fourteenth start last night, the Tiger scored one run for

1144
01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:12.039
him. He didn't give up any
He pitched six scoreless, Tigers lose to

1145
01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:15.439
to one because of the bullpen,
one run not enough. These are the

1146
01:55:15.479 --> 01:55:19.039
things we talked about. Talked about
the fact that Detroit's seventy two games in

1147
01:55:19.359 --> 01:55:26.399
twenty two times they've scored two runs
or less. So maybe the expectation,

1148
01:55:27.199 --> 01:55:35.399
and it sure hasn't spurred any type
of disdain, disgust, frustration, anger,

1149
01:55:36.720 --> 01:55:42.960
hardly any emotion with anybody on these
airways, not that I can tell.

1150
01:55:43.359 --> 01:55:45.199
Haven't gotten a text about it.
Sports Radio to twenty one thousand.

1151
01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:49.600
No one's called the Meyer hotline eight
sixty six, eight three, eight forty

1152
01:55:49.640 --> 01:55:55.279
eight forty three. It's it's a
shrug of the shoulder, is what it

1153
01:55:55.359 --> 01:56:00.199
is. Now. Maybe I haven't
set it up well, maybe you don't

1154
01:56:00.199 --> 01:56:01.920
care. Maybe it's apathy, Maybe
you didn't hear it. I don't know,

1155
01:56:03.439 --> 01:56:08.279
but I know we didn't get much
of a response. And you would

1156
01:56:08.279 --> 01:56:14.680
think you would if this were Philadelphia, if this were New York, if

1157
01:56:14.680 --> 01:56:19.439
this were certain Boston, if this
were certain places in America who love their

1158
01:56:19.479 --> 01:56:27.159
baseball say they love their baseball,
guaranteed people would be calling in left and

1159
01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:35.520
right spouting off their frustration. Not
here, So perhaps that's there in lies

1160
01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:41.399
right there. The issue that I'm
talking about with players. You want to

1161
01:56:41.439 --> 01:56:45.159
do your homework, here's the homework
assignment. It's almost an easy place to

1162
01:56:45.199 --> 01:56:51.520
play. It is. People aren't
going to get totally upset with you.

1163
01:56:54.119 --> 01:56:58.920
People are not necessarily going to blo
you mercifully, not that I think you

1164
01:56:59.079 --> 01:57:08.920
should. I'm just alarmed at the
lack of frustration that people have for this

1165
01:57:08.960 --> 01:57:12.920
team right now. Pistons, I
almost get it. You don't see anything

1166
01:57:12.920 --> 01:57:16.560
at the end of the tunnel.
You see Cad Cunningham, you might see

1167
01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:23.199
maybe you got high hopes for Jalen
Durn, maybe Jade and Ivy. Outside

1168
01:57:23.239 --> 01:57:29.079
of that, you're not There's nothing
that is really tweaking that emotion for you

1169
01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:32.479
that makes you say, gosh,
darn it, I can't believe this team

1170
01:57:32.520 --> 01:57:41.479
continues to be poor. You recognize
it's almost like wasted breath. With the

1171
01:57:41.520 --> 01:57:46.680
Red Wings, I think there's some
frustration, but the fan base is limited.

1172
01:57:47.399 --> 01:57:53.520
I mean, it's Red Wings fans
and that's it. There's not many

1173
01:57:53.600 --> 01:57:58.720
hockey fans in general. I don't
think I think you enjoy watching your kids

1174
01:57:58.720 --> 01:58:01.239
play. I don't think people are
following the national team development program. I

1175
01:58:01.279 --> 01:58:05.560
don't think they're following Michigan or Michigan
State. I don't think they're following teams

1176
01:58:05.640 --> 01:58:13.159
outside outside the Detroit Red Wings.
I don't think people are watching the Stanley

1177
01:58:13.159 --> 01:58:15.479
Cup. I don't think you have
it on your calendar right now where you're

1178
01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:18.199
like, man, I can't wait
to watch Edmonton and Florida play tonight in

1179
01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:25.119
Florida in Game five. So I
think it's Red Wings and that's about it.

1180
01:58:26.199 --> 01:58:31.479
Tigers, there just doesn't seem to
be it. I'll get a call,

1181
01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:34.279
I'll get a text or two where
people will be like, you know,

1182
01:58:34.359 --> 01:58:36.880
it's frustrating, why don't they do
this? Why don't they? You

1183
01:58:36.920 --> 01:58:41.880
know, Freddie will talk about aj
Hinch, he's got to be more responsible

1184
01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:45.920
for some of these losses. People
will complain about taking a picture out too

1185
01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:48.960
early, the same old stuff.
But deep down inside is there many are

1186
01:58:49.039 --> 01:58:53.159
there, Many calls are there,
Many texts are there, many people who

1187
01:58:53.199 --> 01:58:56.319
are truly engaged in this team and
go, you know what, I am

1188
01:58:56.560 --> 01:59:01.520
so fed up with the same issues
night in and night out and nothing being

1189
01:59:01.600 --> 01:59:10.920
done about it. Not really,
it's not there. So to call it

1190
01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:15.680
an easy market, you can easily
win people over, you don't have to

1191
01:59:15.880 --> 01:59:20.279
prove day after day, year after
year, how good you are. They're

1192
01:59:20.319 --> 01:59:24.880
almost satisfied. Give me something good
once in a while, and I'll leave

1193
01:59:24.920 --> 01:59:33.520
you alone. There's the homework assignment
for Detroit sports fans or Michigan based fields

1194
01:59:33.560 --> 01:59:40.920
sports fans. I think, I
think that's the way it is. It's

1195
01:59:40.920 --> 01:59:48.560
interesting. I never truly recognized it
until the last couple of years, and

1196
01:59:48.640 --> 01:59:53.439
I thought to myself, Man,
you really would not be able to get

1197
01:59:53.479 --> 02:00:02.119
away with this in other sports crazed
markets. I used to tell athletes all

1198
02:00:02.119 --> 02:00:04.760
the time, you're gonna really like
it here. Why am I going to

1199
02:00:04.880 --> 02:00:11.079
like it here? People are great, They love their sports, and I

1200
02:00:11.119 --> 02:00:14.800
think they do. I think people
do love their sports, but I don't

1201
02:00:14.880 --> 02:00:23.720
think they hold their teams and athletes
to a very high standard. Maybe just

1202
02:00:23.840 --> 02:00:30.159
maybe you've been beat up so much
as of late. Maybe it's I'm tired

1203
02:00:30.159 --> 02:00:38.920
of wasting my breath. That's a
possibility. But when Kyrie Irving is talking

1204
02:00:38.920 --> 02:00:45.680
about doing your homework with the Boston
market, and he's bringing up the fact

1205
02:00:45.720 --> 02:00:54.199
that Boston pandemonium and the community is
integrated into the Celtics team, I don't

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think there are many free agents who
say that about their Detroit teams. It's

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interesting the team that has the least
amount of success, the Detroit Lions.

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That would be the team that free
agents talk about. Free agents do when

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they come to the Lions. They
do talk about how this team embraces it,

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or how this community embraces it,
even though it doesn't have that great

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success. See people walk around with
the old English D because it's a great

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looking logo and because they're from here
and it screams Detroit and the state of

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Michigan. But do they really hold
their baseball team to a super high standard.

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I don't think they do. Maybe
that changes. Maybe it's because the

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team hasn't given them any reason to
feel like more is expected. And that's

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what I mean about just accepting it. It's been accepted that certain teams in

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the market are not going to be
competitive, and you're going to enjoy your

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summer. You'll enjoy going down to
the games once in a while, but

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that'll be the extent of it.
Maybe you separated yourself emotionally. If you

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have, I give you more credit, because I can't do that. I

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get too frustrated with it. Remember
our poll question, vote as often as

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Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes to extensions,

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Ben Johnson choosing to stay in drafting
Terry on Arnold. Those are your choices.

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We'll talk about it tomorrow morning when
we come back here on Axes and

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Bros. Throughout the great State of
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the huge show coming up later today
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affiliates. He's from three until six. Thanks to Ben, our producer.

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It's as simple as that, and
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If you ever have been there and
you've seen the layout and you've seen the

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scenery associated with that gorgeous plot of
land, it's majestic. It's an absolute

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masterpiece. There's not a bad hole
on the track. And when you look

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at it and you say to yourself, I want to play there, be

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careful because it's challenging, but more
importantly, soak it all in because there's

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not many places like it, not
just in the States, not in the

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area, but I would say in
the entire United States. When you go

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to Tullymore, you get a chance
to play not one, but two championship

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golf courses at an affordable rate.
On top of that, if you want

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to stay for the weekend, and
I would recommend you do, the facilities

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are outstanding, with phenomenal food and
a chance to unwind after a wonderful round

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of golf. You have a chance
to live there too. I'm not telling

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you too, but there is real
estate at Tullymore. You can become a

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member there. There's all kinds of
different things you can do. No matter

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how you approach it full time or
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to get is a pleasurable experience with
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ever witness. No matter what time
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early in the evening, it's breathtaking
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to Tullymore Golf dot com. What's
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some love to Ben Glaze producing another
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later today at three, the Huge
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