1 00:00:15,279 --> 00:00:18,960 Well, welcome back everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong with Me David 2 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,679 Harsania, Molly Hemingway, and a reminder, if you'd like to email the 3 00:00:22,719 --> 00:00:27,160 show, please do so at radio at the Federalists dot com. And if 4 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:30,359 you enjoy the work we do here at the Federalist, you can show your 5 00:00:30,399 --> 00:00:35,479 support by visiting our website and joining the Federalist Community for an ad free website 6 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,200 experience and access to exclusive content. I'm sure you're not going to want to 7 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,960 miss exactly, David. It's only four dollars per month and keeps the Federalist 8 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,079 thriving. So I encourage everyone to support our work if you are interested in 9 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,320 able. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me, honestly, four bucks, 10 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,759 I mean, you can spare it. We should probably you should probably 11 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:04,760 increase that quite a bit. Actually, Molly, it has been a crazy 12 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:08,079 week, or more than a week, crazy almost two weeks now, I 13 00:01:08,079 --> 00:01:12,000 guess, with what's going on in Israel. I've been to Toto last week, 14 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:18,560 just really affected by it, angry, rage, tweeting my way through 15 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:25,760 the whole thing, lasting anyone who I feel is honestly pro amas. I 16 00:01:25,799 --> 00:01:27,560 think there's plenty of people are pro a mas. It's got a lot of 17 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:34,319 blowback. I mean, we talked about this off air, but it's you 18 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:38,480 know, it's a weird and trying time, I think for most Americans. 19 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,599 Like I might have mentioned this last week, but I was interviewing someone from 20 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,879 my book on Justice Alido, and he was saying that as bad as the 21 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,920 leak of the Supreme Court decision was, he was in some ways more upset 22 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:59,319 by the response to the leak, where people didn't really care that justices lives 23 00:01:59,359 --> 00:02:04,319 were being threatened or there were major security concerns, and they just kind of 24 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:07,680 were ho hum about it. And I was thinking about that as it relates 25 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:12,319 to the reaction to what's going on in Israel. What Hamas did is horrific 26 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,599 and I can't stop thinking about it. And you read these stories of brave 27 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:22,479 individuals who saved lives even if they ultimately lost their lives, even as they 28 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:29,159 ultimately lost their lives, But then to see what's happening on US college campuses 29 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:37,680 or in certain cities where people are openly supporting terrorist tactics against civilians as part 30 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:46,240 of their political conflict, it's not hard to condemn what Hamas did and yet 31 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:49,879 it's hard for it's impossible for a lot of people. And that's just very 32 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,439 sobering. Yeah, I mean I always try to stress this, I think, 33 00:02:53,520 --> 00:03:00,120 and I think polls bear this out that most people are not And I'm 34 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:04,159 just going to preface this by saying, I think if you're on Pomas side, 35 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,240 you're an anti Semite functionally. I don't know if you know that, 36 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:09,719 but you are. And I think that most people are not that way. 37 00:03:09,759 --> 00:03:15,240 I think most people are decent and understand this is a fight of civilized people 38 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,439 against not all the people in Gos are this way, but a government that 39 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,360 is barbaric, and you know a lot of people support them. I mean, 40 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:27,039 that's another truth that we have to grapple with. But most people are 41 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:29,919 decent. I get a lot of like antisemitic mail when this sort of thing 42 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,960 happens, but I know that it's just ginned up by a small section of 43 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,520 people. However, I will say, the problem is this. Those people 44 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,560 are in our colleges, those people are in our media, and those people 45 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:46,719 are in our government now. And that is scary because and I'm sorry to 46 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:50,680 say this as well, it's something it's again a truth. There are immigrants 47 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,960 from certain places that are very are predisposed to being on the wrong side of 48 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,240 this, and that's something to concern ourselves as we turn more and more into 49 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,199 Europe. I mean, I wrote a book about this. I believe it's 50 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:04,680 true. I think it needs to be avoided, but we're just headed in 51 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:11,879 that direction and that scares me. Well. Pulling for whatever it matters, 52 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,040 shows that people are more supportive of Israel right now than they have been in 53 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:20,800 a long time. So that's important to remember even as we see these disturbing 54 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:27,519 signs of people being supportive of terrorism. But I was thinking about these, 55 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,680 you know, some of these lefty professors were saying, Oh, what did 56 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:34,879 you guys think decolonization meant. We've been calling for decolonization. This is what 57 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:41,040 it means. It means, you know, killing babies and attacking young people 58 00:04:41,079 --> 00:04:44,879 at a concert, That's what decolonization means. You thought it was vibes, 59 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:49,480 you thought it was feelings. And I was thinking about decolonization and whether that 60 00:04:49,519 --> 00:04:55,480 would be an appropriate way to view like these protests in Dearborn, Like would 61 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,600 you say, dearborn Michigan has been colonized by a pro hamas population. Should 62 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:06,480 we be calling for decolonization of dearborn. Yeah, I mean that's a good 63 00:05:06,519 --> 00:05:12,800 point. The whole because of their ideology is fraudulent, frankly, and there's 64 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,160 no consistency in it at all. So I always think about this when something 65 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,639 like you know, this happens, that people talk about colonization, which is 66 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:25,480 just historically nonsensical. When it comes to Israel, is that no one talks 67 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:29,120 about. No, you know, how about Tibet, how about the Zulu, 68 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:31,319 how about the Hungarians of Transylvania, how about I mean, there are 69 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:35,600 thousands of people who do not have states in this world. There are thousands 70 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:40,639 of people. I don't mean thousands of individual people. I mean thousands of 71 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:46,360 minority people who you know, groups of people, ethnic minorities, religious minorities 72 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:50,800 in throughout the Arab world, throughout the Islamic world, throughout Asia, everywhere, 73 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,639 that they never write or talk about because they care about this one. 74 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,519 It means European people who are colonizing supposedly you know, brown people, and 75 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,480 that is also historically nonsensical. But first of all, if you go to 76 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:09,160 Israel, you see there are many Sephardic Jews who come from the Middle East 77 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:12,360 who live there. Probably around half the population. I don't know the exact 78 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:15,680 number. It is not about race, It is not about color. It 79 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:21,120 is to the Western intellectual here. And you know, the reason they need 80 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,480 to lie about history, the reason they need to lie about this is because 81 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:28,959 their case is so so poor. So yeah, I would tie it. 82 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,279 I forgot who was talking about this online, but I would tie all of 83 00:06:31,319 --> 00:06:38,480 this philosophy into the woke an decolonization stuff, into the you know, black 84 00:06:38,519 --> 00:06:42,839 lives matter stuff. Sometimes, I'm sorry to say, and it's all one 85 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:46,759 big group of people. That's another thing that's kind of been bothering me. 86 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:50,120 Okay. On the one hand, I'm happy to see that there are some 87 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:58,279 CEOs and some law firms, and some big businesses and some foundations that are 88 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:02,439 saying, hey, we think think your open celebration of slaughtering Jews is not 89 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:08,240 okay, So we're going to rescind this job offer or we're going to stop 90 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:18,120 funding you. These are the same exact people who gave eighty billion dollars to 91 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:25,360 the BLM movement, and the BLM movement never hid the fact that, in 92 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:31,839 addition to their racism domestically like their racism against white people, they were also 93 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:39,680 anti Semitic. They also were openly supportive of Hammas. You have the leader 94 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,160 of BLM saying our battle is the Hammas battle or is the Palestinian Liberation battle? 95 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,519 And I'm sorry, but it rings so hollow that it's like, Oh, 96 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:56,279 you thought it was okay to destroy the country by giving eighty billion dollars 97 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:03,519 to a domestic movement that was attacking the White House, attacking federal courthouses, 98 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:07,959 setting cities on fire, just like destroying the country. You thought that was 99 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,079 okay, But now you're not okay with the open anti semitism. Like, 100 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:16,600 I'm sorry, but it's a little like maybe you should have cared more a 101 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:20,199 couple of years ago when the pressure was really up, because now you're looking 102 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,360 for support here. You funded this, you you know, you helped, 103 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,519 you helped inject this into our system, and now you're like, oh, 104 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,879 well, that's bad. Yeah, some of us were saying that a few 105 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,240 years ago. No, I agree with that completely. I should also point 106 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:43,200 out BMI BMI, Black Lives Matter BMI BMI. A record is that a 107 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:50,399 record company? It's your body mass index. Oh okay, let me put 108 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:54,279 it this way. If you're if you're a white supremacist, you're anti Semitic. 109 00:08:54,320 --> 00:09:00,799 If you're a communist, you're probably anti semitic. The authoritari to see 110 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,600 people are anti Semitic are usually authoritarian. You know, it is a good 111 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,600 indicator. So when you have black lives matters. The women Women's March was 112 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:15,440 started by anti semites. People do they know this? The all of these 113 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,919 left wing, socialist, progressive movements are filled with anti Semites. It's on 114 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,720 the right. It's on the right wing as well, on the far right. 115 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,559 But here's the thing. They are not in Congress, right, they 116 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,799 are not running this, They're not in the State Department. They are not 117 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:35,840 teaching classes at Cornell and Columbia and Harvard and Yale. That's the difference. 118 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,480 And it has a lot to do with people just being scared to speak the 119 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:45,559 truth. I abhor racism. I believe in individual liberty. I believe people 120 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,919 should be judged by their actions. And the left has become incredibly identitarian. 121 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,360 I saw this woman who was caught like at NYU, was caught ripping down 122 00:09:54,399 --> 00:10:00,159 posters of the you know, Jewish hostages or whatever, and she apologized in 123 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,799 her letter it's just a bunch of like aggressive gibberish, and she says, 124 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,960 as a brown Arab woman, I don't sometimes know what my place is in 125 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:13,519 the society. You know, you hear all this kind of like whiny victimhood 126 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:18,919 that makes zero sense, just ideologically now ingrained in these young people, and 127 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,960 I think it's going to lead to a bad place. All these people at 128 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,919 Harvard and Yale are being taught this stuff, will be running institutions. They 129 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:28,360 will be our elite in a few years. And this problem, every time 130 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,159 it happens in Israel, I noticed that it gets worse, the reaction gets 131 00:10:31,159 --> 00:10:35,360 worse and worse. It's heading in the wrong direction. The trajectory is wrong. 132 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,480 All these people are taking money away from yell and stuff. As soon 133 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:41,200 as you get back to the normal leftist stuff, they're going to be all 134 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,320 on board again. Don't believe this is going to change very much at all. 135 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:50,399 Also, I'm an old person and the Palestinian extremist groups were on my 136 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,960 campus when I was in college. So when you say, oh, these 137 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,240 people will become this way, oh, I think they have. They they 138 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:00,399 are in control, right. You spoke about this last week. I mean 139 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,720 the Palestinian terrorist movement of the PLO long before it was even before occupied territories 140 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,919 supposedly existed, had the backing of all kinds of leftist European groups. They 141 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:13,639 participated in the terror sometimes and they were supported by them. So anyway, 142 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,879 I don't want to go back through that history. It's you know, but 143 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,480 let's talk about a little bit about some of the stuff that's going on right 144 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:26,759 now, namely, and I think this is incredibly this is an incredibly important 145 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:35,360 story to understand what's wrong with journalism in America in general. But yesterday we're 146 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,799 recording this on Wednesday. So this was Tuesday. A hospital in Gaza City, 147 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:46,039 I believe, blew up. It was reported, Yeah, reportedly reportedly. 148 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,080 It reportedly blew hospital hospital, hundreds of patients in it. Yeah, 149 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:58,039 yes, so this was wildly reported. Now I don't even know how to 150 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:03,279 get into this. So anyone who knows any thing about this conflict understands that 151 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:09,679 two things. One that the Hamas side and the FATA side is constantly lying 152 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,960 about everything about you know, what's being blown up, who's being blown up, 153 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,080 how many casualties they are. Secondly, everyone who has followed this conflict 154 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:26,759 knows that Hamas wants people to die. They put their munitions under schools and 155 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:31,000 under hospitals, and they hide there knowing that the Israeli you know, that 156 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,960 either they're going to be used as human shields or will there will be new 157 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:41,600 martyrs for them to you know, talk about completely unskeptical reporting. Right on 158 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:43,519 the front of the New York Times, right on the front of the Wall 159 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:50,360 Street Journal and other papers. This is reported. Soon enough, we learn 160 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:54,159 that, you know, Israel's like, we didn't do this. Of course, 161 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,080 you know, some people are not going to believe them, and you 162 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,399 know, you should be skeptical of everything to some extent, though, my 163 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,039 skepticism of Hamas is always going to be higher that my skepticism of a country, 164 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,600 a free country where they're actually you know, would investigate or report something 165 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,679 like this, and then they say, they give you all kinds of proof, 166 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,000 there's recordings, there's video, everything, that this was just the Islamic 167 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:18,559 shie had group had accidentally hit this place, right this hospital. Then this 168 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,320 morning I wake up and I see that the sun has come up and the 169 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,879 hospital is still standing, and the parking lot was hit by this missile. 170 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:31,720 The entire story basically is junk. Let me ask you something, how long, 171 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:33,480 how many people. Do you think we'll never know that. I think 172 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:37,759 the number is really high, or it's been sort of embedded in their thinking 173 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:43,360 that Israel Baum's hospitals. You know, this has been happening forever with media 174 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:48,799 and it speaks to their I'll put it this way. If they many people 175 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,519 in the media are sympathetic to Hamas, so they are either credulous and report 176 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,480 whatever Hamas says, or they are participating in Hamas propaganda. This is the 177 00:13:56,519 --> 00:14:03,879 same thing they did during a million the Kavanaugh story, the Russian collusion story. 178 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,679 If it fits their ideology, if it comports with their ideological view, 179 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:11,279 they will report it and they will spread it. But if it's a beheaded 180 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,480 Jewish baby, they are going to really take their time and make sure it's 181 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:18,600 true, and you know, they need to see video first. That is 182 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:20,320 actually the thing that bothers me the most about this. And you know, 183 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:26,799 to be fair, all of us look for things that confirm our prior beliefs, 184 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:31,080 and so it's a thing you have to fight against because it's human nature 185 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:37,919 to do that. But when there were reports of women being raped and children 186 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,799 being beheaded as part of the torture and murder of those women and children. 187 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:46,399 You had a bunch of people in the media being like, I'm going to 188 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:52,039 need to see live action footage of the actual beheading because maybe like the heads 189 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,519 got separated from the bodies as part of the other you know, as part 190 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:58,759 of the natural burning of these bodies that we tortured and killed. You know, 191 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,120 I found the whole thing a little bit offensive. Like I don't even 192 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:05,559 particularly care how they murdered the forty babies, just that they did it. 193 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,200 So there's all this like fine tuning and parsing and like, you're going to 194 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:16,759 have to show me timestamped footage of the action as it's taking place. Never 195 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,600 mind that Hamas had live streamed their attack on Israel. So those of us 196 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,200 who were watching non filtered media, and what I mean by that is really 197 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,960 like being on Twitter x, we saw it all happening like in real time 198 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,679 from the perspective of the Hamas people who were live streaming it. So it 199 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:39,480 wasn't like Israel is putting out these videos that are fake. It was they 200 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,720 were homos videos. Then when there's an in the middle of the night attack 201 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:50,799 on supposedly a hospital, we just go right with the claims from Hamas. 202 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:58,720 Really there was a New York Times headline that said something like Israel bombs Gaza 203 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,840 hospital, killing hundreds, and pretty much nothing in that was true. It 204 00:16:03,919 --> 00:16:08,799 wasn't Israel, they didn't vomit, it wasn't the hospital, and I don't 205 00:16:08,799 --> 00:16:15,159 think it killed hundreds. What did happen, you know, from what did 206 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:21,360 What it looks like happened is that the Palestinians, as part of their war, 207 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,399 fired a rocket that didn't work, and they fired it from behind the 208 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:32,679 hospital, so it went right into a parking lot near the hospital. And 209 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:41,360 this is particularly tragic because reportedly there were like refugees camping out right near that 210 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:45,919 parking lot, all of whom probably died. And it was like thirty to 211 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:52,440 sixty people there. So it's a very awful, awful situation. But is 212 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,600 there anything wrong with waiting to find out and then also, don't regurgitate Hamas 213 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:04,839 without noting that they had a track record of inflating numbers, of mischaracterizing situations, 214 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:10,119 of denying reality, such as the reality that hamas and beds and schools 215 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,160 and hospitals, like you have to put all that in there as you report 216 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,200 it. Right now, people are being they're being targeted because of this lie, 217 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:26,200 and the media do have a responsibility to play here. 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I wanted to quickly say, you know, if 234 00:18:52,799 --> 00:19:00,400 you're confirming your priors by being pro Haamas, maybe you should reassess you view 235 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,880 the world and your moral structure of how you think about the world. That's 236 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,519 one thing. The second thing is, here's what happens. Though, even 237 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,759 if you walk this back. I've noticed all the news stories or like, 238 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,279 Israel claims that they didn't do this. So when you first report what Hamas 239 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:18,960 says, now it is on Israel to onus, is on Israel to debunk 240 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:23,240 something that was never true in the beginning. It should have been reported correctly 241 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,720 from the start. So now the whole thing falls on Israel. Oh well, 242 00:19:26,759 --> 00:19:30,319 Israel, it's a he said, she said, which is ridiculous. 243 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:36,160 There is overwhelming evidence now that it wasn't true, and that's how it should 244 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,920 be reported, but it never is. I will say this too, just 245 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,000 because of something you said about Twitter, I'm just gonna call it Twitter. 246 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,440 I'm with the X thing. I can't but there's a lot to hate about 247 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,480 social media. I think it has a detrimental effect in many ways. But 248 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:53,160 I have to say, a story like this would have run in nineteen ninety 249 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,480 six. It would have been in every would have been on every single, 250 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,039 every single, all three networks, it would have been in every major newspaper, 251 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,400 and it would have been incredibly difficult to debunk that story. It would 252 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,000 have you know, there would be no way. But now there are lots 253 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,839 of people out there who will ask the right questions. There's a lot of 254 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:18,000 stupid people out there, you know, spreading disinformation, but there are also 255 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,160 a lot of people who do a really good job. And you know, 256 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:23,799 overall, I just I don't know, net I think it's it's a positive 257 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:30,000 that we don't have to accept what these people say. I mean, I 258 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,119 forgot who it was, but someone on Twitter was saying, like the people 259 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,039 who cry, you know, people who want censorship and cry about miss and 260 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:41,640 disinformation the most, they all spread this story. They all spread this dangerous 261 00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:48,880 lie. This isn't some kook fringe person who's talking about you know, you 262 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,559 know, some conspiracy theory. These are people we're supposed to rely on to 263 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:59,039 debunk those things and yet they are the most malicious. I'm just going to 264 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:00,759 say it's malicious, delicious spreaders of this. So The New York Times has 265 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:04,759 been doing this sort of thing for decades, you know. And then you 266 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:11,720 see the people, the reporters and the columnist and the editorial board members chiming 267 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:15,279 in, and they're all of course, it makes sense that they're prohamas the 268 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:18,680 paper. It's filled with these people. I don't know how you fix that 269 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,839 anymore. I don't think it can be fixed. I think it needs to 270 00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:26,000 be burned down. I'm happy to see the Washington Post struggling and firing people. 271 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:29,759 There's not enough people being fired. The problem with this that is, 272 00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:33,039 though, that the wrong people are being fired. People on the metro desk 273 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:37,000 who report real news are being fired, not you know, Jennifer Rubin or 274 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,119 you know or whoever else is writing on the editorial page and garnering hits. 275 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,759 So all the incentives are wrong in journalism. I don't know how to fix 276 00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:48,039 that either. I don't know how it can be fixed. So, yeah, 277 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:52,839 there's some major structural problems in play here that lead people to not being 278 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,240 the reason. One of the reasons why things are bad is people are rewarded 279 00:21:56,319 --> 00:22:00,519 for being wrong, as opposed to in any way punished or having you know, 280 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,839 there's no repercussions that are negative. I know people talk about how the 281 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,400 Washington Post is on track to lose one hundred million dollars this year, and 282 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:14,400 you know the Atlantic Loss loses ten to twenty million dollars a year. The 283 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:17,319 thing is, people on the right need to really wake up and realize that's 284 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,480 not a loss, that's an investment. It's an investment in controlling narratives. 285 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,440 And for people who were wealthy billionaires on the left, it is worth it 286 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,160 to lose ten to one hundred million dollars like individually, much less with all 287 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:36,319 the foundations and corporate support to control narratives. You look at how the media 288 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:41,599 portrayed the Trump administration for four years. It was abject chaos and horror, 289 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,160 horrific. I mean, they just kept the volume at eleven so that people 290 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,680 were tense and they were freaked out all the time, and it affected the 291 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,319 way they voted. And those were four years of economic prosperity until the media 292 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:59,960 manipulated COVID hysteria. Those were years of peace breaking out all over the world. 293 00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:06,000 That was four years of beginning to secure the border, taking on some 294 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,519 of the craziness of the left and right now. The media are incredibly calm. 295 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:15,559 You watch a press conference with Cream John Pierre, They're very calm. 296 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,079 They're like, ma'am, could we ask you a question about this horror show? 297 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,640 But we don't want to call it that, Like, we'll be really 298 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:29,160 gentle. Just remember the screaming every day from the White House Press Court against 299 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,480 anyone in the Trump administration, which was like the equivalent of your monsters, 300 00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:37,319 you know, whether who's the kaylie Mcananey who I now work with at Fox. 301 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:41,759 They would treat her like she was this horrific evil person and she was 302 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:45,920 super competent and she had to be because she was working every day against like 303 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,279 hundreds of ideological opponents. Cream John Pierre is treated like a three year old 304 00:23:52,319 --> 00:24:00,279 with a learning disability. She is so gently handled, even though oh, 305 00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:04,359 I mean she's an idiot, right, I'm sorry, so but so gently, 306 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,440 so kindly, and like the questions are so puffy, and so everyone 307 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,240 kind of is like, well, you know, I guess I don't have 308 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,599 any money and I can't afford to move into a new house or buy a 309 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:21,920 car. Or groceries. But things sure are nicer now that that bad guy 310 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,359 with the mean tweets isn't around. Like it's all manufactured hysteria or calm. 311 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,160 I don't know if it works, like it might not work, but well, 312 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,039 it's a good point. The media was far more skeptical of anything the 313 00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:40,039 Trump administration said than they were of what Hamas, the terror organization that chops 314 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:44,640 off heads of babies said, So that's interesting. They treat Hamas with more 315 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,559 respect than they do the Trump administration, who I know most people think is 316 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,240 worse than Hamas. I'm sure most progressives think that Trump is a bigger threat 317 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:59,119 and authoritarian than they do Hamas, which they're pro the Mehdi Hassans of the 318 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,079 world or whatever, the anti Semites that MSNBC we should pull for Al Jazeera 319 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,839 by the way, Yeah, we should add that to one of our questions 320 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:11,359 that we pose in our occasional pulling, just to see what the results are. 321 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:17,599 Who's more dangerous Hamas or Donald Trump? It is interesting. Just one 322 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,599 last thing you say, you know, they people fall fall up. Is 323 00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:23,559 that what you said or is that the same there are no negative repercussions, 324 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:29,839 Yes, exactly. You were talking about this. It reminded me of the 325 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,799 our coverage ten years ago of Vox the side Box, which had a lot 326 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:37,240 of fanfare and all of that, And I remembered that I had written that 327 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:41,319 they were one of the biggest defenders of Hamas out there, so I looked 328 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:42,240 it up. Yeah, I did write a column about it. They were 329 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:48,920 constantly justifying and rationalizing Hamas. One of those writers, Max Fisher just a 330 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:53,599 terror apologist, you know, up there with the worst of them works. 331 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,279 Last I heard it the New York Times. He went in that direction. 332 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:00,559 He should have been headed towards his own you know, sub stack with two 333 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,759 hundred followers, but no, he haded in the other direction. And you 334 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:07,960 know, the gods of Bridge guys still there, who knows. Can you 335 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:11,599 imagine these people were there to explain this issue to us and they didn't know 336 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,519 the most basic geographical facts about Israel. I mean, it was so pathetic 337 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,359 and crazy. And where's Ezra Cline now? Is at the New York Times? 338 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,480 So and Russia collusion stuff that you know, all of those people have 339 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:32,240 been you know, have gotten better jobs or bigger platforms. So yeah, 340 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:34,160 I mean, it's a structural problem with the media that A they have people 341 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,319 who think that Hamas is you can trust be that they think jummas. They 342 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:42,680 actually are more sympathetic to Hamas than they are to Israel and choose. I 343 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,920 don't know how you can't really fix it. So let's talk a little bit. 344 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:48,160 Is that enough on that? I have to talk about Biden a little 345 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,079 bit. So Biden's over there right now. I'm going to put this. 346 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,240 He gave that speech last week and I was sort of impressed. I thought 347 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,359 it was a decent speech. But I regret and I wrote a column where 348 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,680 I said that, and I regretted it almost like ten minutes after I published 349 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:10,200 it because what he's doing now, Well, first of all, he's done 350 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,319 nothing. I'm not saying that the United States needs to get into a war 351 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,240 for Israel. I'm one hundred percent not saying that. But the least we 352 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:21,759 could do is not fund help fund Iran, help fund has Bullah, help 353 00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:26,200 fund Hamas directly. We directly helped fund Hamas. He has cut off none 354 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:32,079 of that. He did not rescind the six billion dollar deal. Anthony Blincoln's 355 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,799 over there playcating the Katari regime that has the leaders of a group sitting in 356 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:42,279 a four seasons hotel that killed thirty Americans. Forget the Israelis, they killed 357 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:48,359 thirty American citizens. They have American hostages right now. We should be putting 358 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:55,400 maximum pressure on them them molly coddling them over there. And now Biden's there, 359 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,799 and why is he there? Yesterday it was reported that he's going to, 360 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,000 you know, from someone in the State Department, say he's going to 361 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,400 ask Israel some tough questions. So they're thirty American dead, he goes over 362 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,799 there to restrict and inhibit the response of Israel because that's why he's there, 363 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,599 so that they don't go into Gaza, and he's going to ask them some 364 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:18,720 tough questions. This is the third Obama administration right now. They are anti 365 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,400 Israel. No matter what they say, they do not do anything really to 366 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,720 help them in any real way that they need. I shouldn't say nothing. 367 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,640 They do some things, you know, but just in general, it's really 368 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,119 upsetting. I don't know, I don't know if you're if you're an Israel 369 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,759 supporter, this is just upsetting stuff. Well I hate I mean, okay, 370 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,720 I can't even listen to him by the way they were playing him on 371 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:45,559 the radio this morning and he was like, I think it was the other 372 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,039 team. Yeah, like it's a game that hit the hospital, and it 373 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:56,200 was like just the lack of we have not excelled in having particularly articulate presidents 374 00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:02,720 recently, but that is it's painful to listen to. I don't think there's 375 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:08,799 anything wrong, by the way, with US encouraging prudence in how Israel goes 376 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:15,759 about this, Like people reflexively worry that means that they're not going to be 377 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:21,200 supportive of Israel doing what it needs to do to rid the region of Hamas. 378 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:26,920 I'm worried about that too. The pressure already seems to be so strong 379 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:32,039 against Israel seeking justice that you can kind of envision a future where Hamas is 380 00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:37,160 not really taken care of at all. Right, But I don't want to 381 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:41,240 say by that that there's anything necessarily wrong. I mean, like it is 382 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:47,079 wise to keep this from turning into a complete global war. I'm not saying 383 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,759 that's a realistic thing that will necessarily happen, but I would like people to 384 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,920 think about it. I don't really trust the Biden administration to do that, 385 00:29:55,079 --> 00:30:02,880 if you know. But you see what I'm saying, what you're saying I 386 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,799 think it is bad in this case, it's not necessarily bad. First of 387 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:10,240 all, he can call on the phone and say, listen, be prudent. 388 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,759 He is there as ISRAELI say to give them a bear hug, which 389 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,960 means, you know, it looks like you're hugging them, but really just 390 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:25,519 holding them back. And I think Israel is prudent too careful with its dealing 391 00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:30,799 with hamas it has for years not done what was necessary because Israel wants to 392 00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:40,400 avoid civilian deaths of Arabs, but also they want to have peace with other 393 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,240 countries around them, Saudi Arabia and countries like that, So they do what 394 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:48,079 they have to do to balance all these interests because in the long run that's 395 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:53,599 very important. But it is also a democracy, and if you had forty 396 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,960 thousand American dead here from an attack, you would want to take care of 397 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,240 the people who did it, and they should. There's no need. There's 398 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,279 not going to be a global war. That's just I'm not saying you're doing 399 00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:07,079 it. But there's a lot of scare mongering over that there's not going to 400 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:11,640 be a global war. Israel has nukes, Uran doesn't have nukes. Russia 401 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,000 is not going to get involved in this. I mean, they'll get involved 402 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,480 in pressuring Israel to stop, but it's not going to spiral out of control 403 00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:22,359 in that way. I just said something similar to my daughter last night when 404 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,000 she was asking about this, that I wasn't really worried about the near term. 405 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:33,200 It's also true that you can have people exploiting situations reforming relationships in a 406 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,440 way that can lead to problems. So that's all I'm saying, Like, 407 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:45,319 if Iran were to take advantage of Israel's focus on Gaza by opening up some 408 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:53,240 stuff up north, if China is just watching things and poking and prodding certain 409 00:31:53,440 --> 00:32:01,359 directions, or Russia is looking for strategic advantage here too, it's not completely 410 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,240 outside of the realm of possibility that things could heat up here. That could 411 00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:10,519 always happen, even the attacks on US embassies or a stray person being a 412 00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:15,839 stray important person being killed here or there, et cetera. I don't think 413 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,519 China has any real interest in that situation, And frankly, this is just, 414 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:23,400 oh my gosh, China always has interest in they don't. They do 415 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:28,839 not have enough interest. If Israel has a relationship with China, as do. 416 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,519 I just don't think that. I mean, they'll say the right things 417 00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:32,920 as far the wrong things, But you know what I mean, the right 418 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,079 things, I just don't. I mean, listen, I just don't. 419 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,359 In fact, I would say this. I don't know if people would agree 420 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,400 with me or experts, but I think Saudi Arabian countries like that would be 421 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,640 very happy, very happy if Israel eliminated Hamas. Egypt would be very happy 422 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,279 if Hamas was eliminated. No one wants that headache. That's why no one 423 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:55,400 lets gosen refugees in. No one wants that headache. They want it to 424 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,039 be quiet there. They understand Israel can't give Hamas a state. They say 425 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:05,200 things for the public because the public gets enraged by it, and they you 426 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,559 know, but behind closed doors. In my opinion, none of these none 427 00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:13,519 of these these folks don't want Iran gaining footholds in Gaza or the Hasabala thing 428 00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:16,400 is is true, that is a very dangerous situation, and many people believe, 429 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,359 I don't know if it's true that if Israel committed ground forces to the 430 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,960 south, then has bollowould attack in the north. That's a serious situation. 431 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:28,680 They have like one hundred thousand missiles that are much more sophisticated and can do 432 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:30,960 a lot of damage. But I know that people understand Israel is one of 433 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,319 Israel has a lot of missiles and a lot of it can hurt people pretty 434 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,279 badly. So I don't know, we'll see what happens. It is a 435 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:43,319 dangerous situation, no doubt. I just think when people think we're going to 436 00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:52,559 spiral into World War three, they're exaggerating the situation there a bit. The 437 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,319 Washed Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day, Chris helps 438 00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:59,799 unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how it affects your wallet. 439 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,359 It's time to look into the past. After the Yamkipour War, we had 440 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:07,759 an oil embargo with prices increasing over three hundred percent. As we continue to 441 00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:12,039 push green energy policies, Biden has drained the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. What kind 442 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,159 of danger have we put ourselves in? Whether it's happening in DC or down 443 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,920 on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. Be informed. Check out the 444 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,519 Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever 445 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:29,280 you get your podcasts. That's all I just want to also say about Biden. 446 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:34,280 I would prefer Biden not be on TV when he's tired. I certainly 447 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:39,639 don't think he should travel. I myself don't do well with that international travel 448 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,519 from the US to the East. I am a wreck the first day I 449 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:49,119 arrive. He's like falling asleep in the middle of meetings. I don't even 450 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,719 I'm not even judging him. I would do the same thing. I find 451 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,199 it very difficult. But he is an eighty something year old man. They 452 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:58,480 should just keep him home that they should send other people. It's just not 453 00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:02,480 a great look will be able to serve their own purposes. Like it makes 454 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:05,760 him look cute, and then it makes it looks weak. Yeah, he 455 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,280 looks weak. If I fly to Colorado, I sleep all day, So 456 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,480 even a two hour change for me is problematic. I'm just gonna be honest 457 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,599 about that. But you know, he's the president of the United States. 458 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,039 He needs like spruce up a little bit. When he's in the middle of 459 00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:22,400 a conflict in Israel. You know, he should take those uppers they give 460 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,320 him when he does nighttime speeches and debates, the ones that make his eyes 461 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:32,840 like saucers. Mainline some botox get him on the uppers. Let's get this 462 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,000 thing moving in the right direction for guys. Somebody you can do it. 463 00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:40,239 This is where, honestly, this is where having a competent, respected vice 464 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,639 president like I get I get that, I get that no one liked Dick 465 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,880 Cheney now and all that, But you know he that's why he was there, 466 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,480 right or even even Pence, that's why he was there, like a 467 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,880 calming influence, a person who you can like, talk to. Mike Pence, 468 00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:59,639 author of the COVID response, that's why he was there. Great job, 469 00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:02,119 buddy. Listen. They were terrible in the end, both in many 470 00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:07,199 ways, but the thought, the thought was there, right, Like you 471 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,039 wanted someone who was responsible, not someone who wanted to be president. Basically, 472 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:14,000 I guess Pence did so. I don't know what I'm talking about, 473 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:20,079 but Kamala Harris could go over there and be like, we want you to 474 00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:24,719 think about what's possible with this ground invasion. Unburdened by what has been, 475 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,800 she would do to the Middle East, which she has done for the border, 476 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,599 for the border, right, she fixed the Middle East like she fixed 477 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:37,360 the border. And administration. Let's just talk about this administration for a minute. 478 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:43,760 Nothing, not one thing has gone well for them, Like some of 479 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,599 it's not their fault, a lot of it is their fault. And listen, 480 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:51,119 I'm not going to Lisbon, Palestinian Hamas stuff going on forever. But 481 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,519 it is clear to me that Iran feels like he can do whatever it wants 482 00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:57,440 right now. There's just no way around that. I'm not saying I want 483 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,320 war with Iran. Do you remember Donald Trump when they shot down our drone 484 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,239 they wanted to bomb Iran and one hundred and fifty soldiers might have died and 485 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,440 he didn't do it and all that. But let me tell you something. 486 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,440 I think that the Ranians were sitting there saying, this guy's kind of nuts, 487 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,559 Like if we mess around with him, something bad might happen to us. 488 00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,480 Right It was like when Reagan was around people. I think we're more 489 00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:19,800 nervous about what he might do than what he actually did and his rhetoric. 490 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,119 But that's what I was talking about before. So the Biden administration talks. 491 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,599 You know, he gave a good speech, Biden. They have not done 492 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,800 taken a single step. They have not cut off a to the Palestinians, 493 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,199 They have not cut off any of the waivers to the Iranians. They have 494 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,199 not what have they done. I guess they've threatened HASBALI keeps saying, don't 495 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,199 do it, don't do it, And you know what, I think that's 496 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:45,000 a good thing. But if you say that and Hasbala does attack Israel, 497 00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:50,440 are you going to now attack Hasbala? The United States going to get involved? 498 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,039 I mean you just said don't Is that a red line? I will 499 00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:57,280 see. I guess yeah, I don't know. I don't think they believe 500 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,559 it is. But Hasball and so on, we'll see. Anyway, it's 501 00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:06,000 a tough situation. It's taken up a lot of my I tried to write 502 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,480 a column about something else the other day. It's very difficult, but I 503 00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:12,119 did it. I did it. So I can't remember who is like Richard 504 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,480 Dreyfuss's kid, who's like a lefty on Ben Yeh Ben on Twitter and he 505 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:24,079 was saying, I don't think the left fully understands how angry we Jews are 506 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,280 with them right now, like we are super angry, like it's under the 507 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,280 surface angry. And he was making a joke about how he almost tweeted something 508 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,320 just to own the Libs, and then he realized that he is actually pro 509 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:42,800 tranny, so he didn't do it. This isn't going to change anything. 510 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,320 I think guys like that are living in a fantasy. I mean a lot 511 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,880 of people I see saying that the Jewish boat is going to be altered. 512 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,199 Now I don't buy it, no offense, but I know that we are 513 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,039 The US has the second largest Jewish population in the world, but it's still 514 00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:00,679 like six million people. There aren't that many of you guys, So even 515 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:06,159 were wet, we run everything so that you do all right, you know, 516 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,119 but it matters. Honestly, this is going to sound the kind of 517 00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:12,960 antisemitic to someone's people's ear. But the Jews in this country have done well, 518 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000 and they are a lot of big donors are Jewish in the Democratic Party, 519 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,800 and as you saw, many of them are starting to hold money from 520 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,880 from Harvard or wherever. I think that that matters in a political sense, 521 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:30,679 don't you do. I just when people talk about the Jewish vote, I 522 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:36,440 don't think that matters so much. Definitely, there is influence in media, 523 00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:39,239 academia and the like, and I would love for everybody to kind of stand 524 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,599 up against some of what's happening on campuses, and it would be great, 525 00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:51,320 But the Jews in academia and the Jews in media, the peter beinart or 526 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,639 whatever they're you know, the traders did the Jewish beople. Basically is how 527 00:39:55,679 --> 00:40:00,320 I see it, And now I'm I'm serious if you are, if you're 528 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,440 a Prohamas, this is not when I see someone write the words they're not 529 00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,760 letting us be critical of Israel. If you're Prohamas, you're not critical of 530 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,400 is or not saying you can't be critical of Israel. If you think that 531 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,280 the Jews are the only people who don't deserve a state, you're not critical 532 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,559 of Israel. You're anti Jewish. There's no other way to explain that position. 533 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,239 After seventy whatever years of a nation existing already and fighting war afterward to 534 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:30,079 defend itself. Anyway, I get passionate about it, hey probably say something 535 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,639 that should. I also don't like how extreme other people can get about like 536 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:42,639 It is a common situation throughout history that when one country comes to be controlled 537 00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:46,840 by a certain group of people, it usually means that a different group of 538 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,239 people is on the outs. And so I think sometimes people make too much 539 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,599 of the situation between Israel and the Palestinians it's kind of a story as old 540 00:40:55,639 --> 00:41:00,360 as time. But I also don't think people should act like it's not that 541 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,960 that there is this conflict there or that these you know that, it's that 542 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:12,960 there's not paying trauma problems for the Palestinians as well. Do you know what 543 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,079 I'm saying? Like, so when you say like self inflicted, self inflicted, 544 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,960 now I'm serious, You're one hundred percent right. I agree with every 545 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,000 word you said. Think about the Kurds. There are fifty million of them, 546 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,920 No one, no one cares about them, No one wants to give 547 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,159 them a state. Maybe if they started killing Jews, professors at Harvard would 548 00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:34,800 get on their on their side, right, maybe we would. Yeah, 549 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,559 maybe if Tibetian started blowing themselves up in I don't know, you know, 550 00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:42,039 maybe people would care about them. I don't even think so. Actually, 551 00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:45,000 you know, there are there are there are nationalistic movements all over the place 552 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,039 for people who want states to have legitimate claims to state, unlike the Palestinians, 553 00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:52,239 and yet no one cares about them. That tells me only one thing 554 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,159 that you care about this situation. For one reason, what's the difference in 555 00:41:55,199 --> 00:42:00,800 this situation situation is the Jews even any there are Christian minorities, no one 556 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,559 cares about them, even that, David, It's not just that, it's 557 00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:12,880 that we're talking about holy lands for three major religions, okay, and that 558 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,719 makes it more fraught as well. This isn't like just land. It's not 559 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,719 just land for the Jews. It's land that they believe they were given by 560 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,840 God himself, you know. And it's not just land for the Christians. 561 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,119 However, many few people are, how many few Christians are left in Israel. 562 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:36,000 It is the site of their Savior's life, death and resurrection. And 563 00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:40,519 then for the Muslims it has also got some you know, significance Jerusalem itself 564 00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:45,079 with their Holy Mosque built you know, in triumph over the Jews on the 565 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:51,480 side of the temple. So it involves all the normal land disputes, but 566 00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:57,719 so much more as well. Do you not agree with that? I mean, 567 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,920 I think it's overstated. I don't think that before israel existence, was 568 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:08,079 before Israel's existence, that those were actually very driving people towards that Christians did 569 00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:13,719 not care about. The Crusaders didn't happen. Is that what you're saying. 570 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,639 I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about after World War One, there 571 00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:21,800 was no big movement. Listen, Obviously many people made pilgrimages there. There 572 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,199 was a Christian population there. I don't know that it's shrinking. What you 573 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:31,199 said like horrifically. It's like well being exterminated. Basically, well in Israel 574 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,599 itself, you're saying it's being exterminated, or you're talking about the West Bank. 575 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,719 I don't mean that's a violent sounding word. Christians have left in droves 576 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,119 over the less. It was interesting. I was actually listening to a book. 577 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:46,360 I forget which one it was, but they were talking about the Christian 578 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,000 populations of Syria and so forth. It was almost fifty percent of the population 579 00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:54,480 was Christian in those places, and they're all gone, George W. Bush 580 00:43:54,599 --> 00:44:00,239 about the Christian population in Iraq at the time of his invasion versus after right, 581 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,440 Anyway, I don't want to, you know, it's a big conversation. 582 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,679 But Goldeman, you're saying, goes, if Palestinians put down their guns, 583 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,800 it would be peace. If Jews put down the guns, it would 584 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,199 be dead. It's very simple. I think that if if people want to 585 00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,719 live peacefully in Jerusalem, they can do that under Jewish rule. Jews actually 586 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,920 hand custodianship of the of the holy Islamic holy sites to the Jordanians to take 587 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,480 care of. They've done everything they can, but you know, you know, 588 00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:31,000 I don't know what people expect them to do at this point to get 589 00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:36,800 peace. So anyway, I did write a column about something else this week 590 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,119 that I think will interest you, that I wrote about the GAG ruling in 591 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:50,960 the United States versus Donald Trump case by the judge Tanya Chuck can so bad 592 00:44:51,079 --> 00:45:00,599 pronouncing names and needless to say, I don't. I don't think speech and 593 00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:04,400 hibiting speech of a presidential candidate or anyone actually is a very good idea. 594 00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:07,239 My main problem with it, which I don't know many people, if many 595 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,840 people, have spoken about, is that she said that she's not going to 596 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,519 allow Donald Trump to goranz smearing people in her on her staff and in government 597 00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:19,480 and stuff like that, which is an incredibly prejudicial statement for a judge to 598 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,159 make. It essentially preemptively says anything Donald Trump says about this stuff, which 599 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,679 is part of his case incidentally, is a smear. Do you know what 600 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,079 I'm saying? Like anything he says against prosecutors who might be partisan is a 601 00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:36,960 smear. Well, that's more prejudicial than anything he said. For my view, 602 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,599 I would tell me if I'm wrong. Also, this is the woman 603 00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:45,079 who gratuitously tells people in her courtroom that she wishes that instead of them being 604 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:50,000 on trial, it was Donald Trump. So like, are you kidding me? 605 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,159 You're going to complain about what he said when you have already said things 606 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,119 that should mean not only that you're not overseeing this case, but that you're 607 00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:06,280 not a judge period. Like it's insane, It is insane. Another part 608 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,760 of this that bothers me is that, of course the media as usual bothers 609 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,559 me, but every single story says it was a narrow gag order. A 610 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,880 narrow gag order. I don't know. And why is it narrow because Jack 611 00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:21,320 Smith only got half of what he wanted or something like that. Well, 612 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,800 that's not how you define things. If you ask for the world and get 613 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,719 half doesn't mean you're not getting something. It is not narrow because it says 614 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,960 that he cannot say things about participating government staff when a that is his president. 615 00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:38,239 His presidential campaign is tied to saying that he's been railroaded and he's been 616 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,400 abused by the Justice Department whatever, and b maybe that's his legal defense. 617 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,400 Why is he not allowed to give his legal defense? If the prosecution can 618 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,800 give their send their case out to everyone in the media, but the person 619 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,480 the defendant is not allowed to talk about his case. It seems incredibly authoritarian 620 00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:00,199 to me to do this during the presidential election or ever. Case is a 621 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,840 joke. And that's why, you know, so talking even about the particulars 622 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,920 of this bothers me somewhat, because this case should never have been brought. 623 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:16,440 We have right now roaming free throughout the country. Every single person who ran 624 00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:22,360 the scam claiming that the twenty sixteen election was stolen by Donald Trump. That 625 00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:28,079 was a real scam, Like that was a real hoax that damaged the country. 626 00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:34,840 And nobody, not Hillary Clinton, not Mark Elias, not Joe Biden, 627 00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:39,760 not Barack Obama, not their intel chiefs, not their intel bureaucrats, 628 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:45,079 not the media, not the insiders at the FBI or the DOJ, or 629 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:52,159 the CIA or the NSC or NSA or all these different people who conspired to 630 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,480 falsely claim that a duly elected president had stolen the election. Right, none 631 00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:02,559 of those people have been in any way prosecuted by comparison, you have the 632 00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:07,239 twenty twenty election, which I wrote a book about, which Molly Ball wrote 633 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,639 an article about all the ways in which it was manipulated to secure the outcome 634 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,119 for the Democrat, and you're not allowed to talk about it. That gets 635 00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:20,679 you put in prison, that gets the full weight of the government coming after 636 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,679 you. And also you can't complain about it. And there's nothing you know. 637 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,920 We're going to destroy you financially, We're going to destroy everyone who ever 638 00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:30,679 knew you. We're going to limit your free speech rights. We're going to 639 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,320 limit your right to a a legal representation. We're going to kill your right 640 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,079 to assemble. We're going to do a censorship industrial complex ground run to destroy 641 00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:45,280 freedom of the press. And the entire thing is so horrific and third world 642 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:52,239 totalitarian it's terrifying to me. Also, there are like Smith says, you 643 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,960 know he's going to intimidate witnesses. Well, it's already illegal to intimidate witnesses. 644 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,199 If he's intimidating witnesses, charge him on that right exactly. So Also, 645 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,559 I wouldn't say something about this example they used where he criticized Mark Milli. 646 00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:15,920 So Mark Milly was this Joint Chief's Chairman, guy who publicly claimed that 647 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:22,079 he called China to tell them that if his commander in chief did something that 648 00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:25,760 he personally disagreed with that might affect China, he would call them. He 649 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,320 publicly confessed to this, and he has gone on a tour for years undermining 650 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,880 what was his commander in chief. He did it while he was in office 651 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,920 and everything. And you have people who are actually praising Mark Milly, everyone 652 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,519 in the media praising him, everyone in the never Trump movement. It was 653 00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:47,440 not that long ago, you know, when General Stanley McCrystal thought he was 654 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,519 off the record with that reporter who died at Rolling Stone and he talked a 655 00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:57,079 little bit of crap about Barack Obama, and that man was fired, and 656 00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,559 everybody kind of agreed that you're not allowed to do that. You know, 657 00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:04,000 throughout history, we've had generals who undermine a president and when that happens, 658 00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:07,719 they get fired. And I'm almost more concerned again about not just like what 659 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:13,880 he did, but the reaction to it now, because Donald Trump accurately says 660 00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:20,039 that calling your chief adversary to warn them of any potential military action against them 661 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,440 is treasonous, and the penalty of treason according to our constitution, which people 662 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:30,760 claim to care about, is it's a capital offense. Because he said that 663 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,360 accurate thing that nobody else is saying, he must be silenced because Mark Milly 664 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,400 could be a witness. Holy bleep, everyone in this country could be a 665 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,119 witness on this situation. You know, like there are so many people who 666 00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,880 could be witnesses. He's not allowed to talk about anyone in his administration, 667 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:52,079 anyone in the current administration, anyone in government, anyone he knows. And 668 00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:58,199 that's a running while running for president, to take on the people who are 669 00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:00,599 doing this. Okay, so sorry for you, that's all right, that's 670 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:06,400 all right. I admire your passion. Wait can we say that before we 671 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,719 begin. You were talking about how you sometimes get worked up and passionate about 672 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,599 things, and I was like, I don't think anyone thinks that, David. 673 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,840 Yeah, sometimes I think I'm I'm I'm worked up or angry, and 674 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,119 my wife will be like, I don't know what you're talking about. What 675 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,079 Sometimes I think I'm smiling at people and I'm not, so I have to 676 00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:27,239 like smile, and in my head, I feel like I'm the joker or 677 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,719 something like make it really big, so people realize I'm smiling. I want 678 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:37,559 to break down this issue a little bit. One is you were talking about 679 00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:40,800 how Donald Trump is, you know, offering true statements. I don't even 680 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,239 care if they're true. Yesterday people attack me, you know, anti anti 681 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,079 I'm anti anti Trump and all of this stuff. No, I'm for unfettered 682 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,320 free speech. Now you can if you can find any column I've written in 683 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,039 the last twenty years or said anything that would you know that would that I 684 00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,880 wanted to limit anyone's speech, Please show me that, and I you know, 685 00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:02,599 I don't think you will be able to find it. And Donald Trump 686 00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:06,679 is an American like everyone else, and he gets to say whatever he wants. 687 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,159 I don't even I don't think most of his claims have much veracity that 688 00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:13,400 I know of. I'm not an expert on it, but he should be 689 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,400 able to say them. This is he's he This is like a complete you're 690 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,559 you're just blowing up due process. He has every right to talk about this 691 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,360 trial. He has every right to say that the people who are prosecuting him 692 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,320 are on a witch hunt if he feels like it, and maybe he's right, 693 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,679 frankly, because I you know, there's plenty of evidence that a lot 694 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:36,559 of people involved here have partisan concerns, and you know, and there's a 695 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,559 presidential election coming up. Secondly, I don't know if I have this exactly 696 00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:44,599 right, but so far so the case is about the classified documents and the 697 00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:49,079 over the overturning the election, right those are the two. Are they all 698 00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:52,880 wrapped into one case here? No, they've separated it so that the J 699 00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:57,760 six stuff is in DC and the classified documents is in Florida. I think, 700 00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,679 okay, So I have problems with both of those cases against him one 701 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:08,320 because to me, the overturning the election stuff is just another matter of free 702 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:19,880 speech. But the classified document thing is a complete asymmetrical you know, I 703 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:25,800 don't know what the word is, an asymmetrical government action. So Joe Biden 704 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,880 right now did the same thing Donald Trump did, probably worse. But yet 705 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:37,199 one is being prosecuted and one is being molly coddled. Again, that is 706 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,480 clear to me. Is a day everyone's like, well, he's cooperating, 707 00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:44,440 which is irrelevant in the law reasons. And also just last week we learned 708 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,960 that wasn't true. They had misled people about how they were hiding and manipulating 709 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,039 documents, but going, oh, they let them come in, yeah, 710 00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:53,079 because otherwise they're going to get a subpoena income in. Like you're not doing 711 00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:57,599 anyone new. Just because Donald Trump is fighting and gets a lawyer and says 712 00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:00,800 you can't do that doesn't make him any more guilty. So I think that's 713 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,800 a big problem as well, in the way people view rightfully, So the 714 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,360 Justice Department. I'm not saying it's every single person in the Justice Department, 715 00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:13,039 every prosecutor, but enough that it's a really, I think big problem. 716 00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:16,119 And you know, I don't know, I just I've never heard of anyone 717 00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:20,639 but a Banana Republic shutting down the leading candidate of the other party. Right. 718 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,079 And by the way, this is all calibrated to coincide, like this 719 00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:29,400 is this investigation started a long time ago. This is all calibrated to coincide 720 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,519 with the twenty twenty four race, you know, to have him in a 721 00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:36,800 courtroom, to have him shut down, to have a gag order on him. 722 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:38,360 This reminds me. I'd love to put a gag order on him, 723 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,400 but I you know, it is America, right, Yeah, Well, 724 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,920 this reminds me of something Byron York was saying about covering the Biden campaign. 725 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:52,599 He's an excellent, excellent reporter, and he was. He went to this 726 00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:55,719 thing down in South Carolina, a rally that Trump had, and he said, 727 00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,920 you know, it was one of these like typical Trump meander speeches, 728 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,440 but it was all focused on the economy. He would go off on tangents, 729 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,480 but it was all focused on the economy. And it hammered it over 730 00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:12,119 and over and over again. And he looked at the media coverage after this 731 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,280 speech and one hundred percent of it was not about the speech and the people 732 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:22,119 that came. It was about how he'd visited a gun shop prior to the 733 00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:24,639 speech and he had handled a weapon, and they were all like in this 734 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:31,760 total hysteria about that handling of that weapon, claiming he bought it and that's 735 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:37,159 against the law and all this stuff. And Byron was saying that the result 736 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:43,079 was that you have one of the most famous men in the world, not 737 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,880 just right now but in history, giving a speech to a group of people 738 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,920 and it's not covered at all. So Trump is running a completely below the 739 00:55:52,000 --> 00:56:00,400 radar campaign while the media alternate between hysteria about him and ignoring him, which 740 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,039 is kind of interesting. Well, that reminds me, you know, one 741 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:07,360 of the one of the reasons for the gag orders. They don't want Trump 742 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,679 to supposedly, you know, mess with the jury pool. They want an 743 00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:15,679 impartial jury, so you're gonna have a ninety eight percent never Trump jury pool 744 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,039 in DC. They don't want to have them tampered with. Okay, I 745 00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:22,480 hate to break the news to people. This is perhaps the most famous person 746 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:25,840 on earth. So the idea that they don't know how he's like or what 747 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,400 he's about, or have very firm opinions about what they think of him is 748 00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:34,599 preposterous. I don't think you can get a fair jury there. I mean, 749 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,400 I don't know how to fix that. That's the American system. I 750 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,880 guess you can move to trial somewhere else, but you know whatever. But 751 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:45,840 the idea of the show some wisdom at the Department of Justice and not charge 752 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:51,639 your primary political opponent who depants to you for your Russia collusion hoax with like 753 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,599 made up crimes that you're not going after anyone else for. How about that. 754 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,119 You know, if you didn't want this problem, you had about a 755 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,559 million ways to not have this problem. DJ I mean, they're happy to 756 00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:06,159 have this problem. They want to put him in prison. They're controlled by 757 00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:12,039 their passions, their hatred also controlled by passions and hatred. Bill Crystal, 758 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,079 my husband's former boss, who's been very bad to me personally, So I 759 00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:19,239 have a little I have to just admit that he's been very cruel to me 760 00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:23,679 personally, and that informs my dislike of him to some extent. But he 761 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,960 tweeted out that he came to work for Reagan because he cared about the Constitution 762 00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:36,039 and the market and about American dominance, and that's why he's now a Democrat 763 00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:40,920 who bows down before Joe Biden and worships him. And it's like right, 764 00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:46,360 because if you cared about those things, you would support the man who put 765 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:53,239 Katanji Brown Jackson on the Supreme Court Nobody's idea of a smart person, and 766 00:57:53,679 --> 00:58:00,239 you would hate irrationally in a way that consumed you, the man who put 767 00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:07,000 Neil Gorsich, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett on the Supreme Court, 768 00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:13,800 because that's believable. Other than Articles one through three, the first, second, 769 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,159 fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and tenth Amendments, 770 00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:21,360 Joe Biden loves the Constitution. So I think Bill Kibber Crystal is right, 771 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:29,719 Yeah, I saw that tweet. It's insane because I see people writing in 772 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,519 the Atlantic and elsewhere, first of all, let's talk a little bit about 773 00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:36,519 the politics. Let me bring Israel and Tis too. So I see a 774 00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:37,920 lot of them talking about the fight for democracy. Now, Joe Biden, 775 00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:43,199 has you fought for democracy? I think he is almost as bad as Barack 776 00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:47,480 Obama on executive abuse, maybe even worse because it's become so normalized by the 777 00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:52,440 media that it's fine to do it in Democrats. But everything is politicized all 778 00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:55,840 the time in that way and including and maybe you have an opinion on this. 779 00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,800 We didn't actually talk about this before the show. The Democrats now are 780 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:06,880 going to try to link ISRAELI help helping Israel and helping Ukraine. At the 781 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,400 same time, everything has to be every tragedy has to be politicized in some 782 00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:15,400 way to help them leave. No What was that saying by Rayam Emmanuel, 783 00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:20,480 like leave, let leave, don't let a crisis go to waste. I 784 00:59:20,519 --> 00:59:22,320 was going to say, leave no child behind. Yeah, never let a 785 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:28,880 crisis go to waste. I find it so off putting. It's uh. 786 00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:32,280 The difference between today's politics, and when I got into this, I think, 787 00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:37,760 listen, politicians have always been basically the same kind of people, but 788 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:44,159 I do think there was a little bit more earnestness and principles, and also 789 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,480 duty to defend, like to protect your to protect the Senate from the executive 790 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,880 branch, or to like, you know, not make politicize every single issue. 791 00:59:54,239 --> 00:59:59,880 And now there's nothing that these people won't politicize. And I don't know, 792 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:01,960 I don't know where I was going with that. It's just it's just 793 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:07,199 really off putting. In general. Another thing I'm not sure how to fix 794 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,480 is I think we become more and more reactive, reactionary. I mean that 795 01:00:09,559 --> 01:00:15,599 on both sides in the sense of how we conduct our politics. So you'd 796 01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:17,480 need some better people in Congress, I guess, and in the presidency. 797 01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:28,599 Nothing from you on that, Okay, Amen, Dave, maybe you're correct. 798 01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:30,760 I just don't know. I was like thinking about the current speaker battle 799 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,239 and what a mess that is, and also sort of how I don't care 800 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,679 about it. Bill Crystal, by the way, such a mess, such 801 01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:42,599 an ideological mess. It just I used to like the guy, and it 802 01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:45,599 just makes me think, like I have to reassess who I like because, 803 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:52,039 you know, take a deeper look. Maybe people change. I don't understand 804 01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:57,239 how you can go from being like on the board of Americans United for Life 805 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,800 to being pro abortion. I have death definitely developed my thinking on all sorts 806 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,719 of things. I like developing my thinking, and sometimes that even means kind 807 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,480 of a change. It definitely used to be much more of a libertarian than 808 01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:15,119 I am now. I still feel like I have a libertarian angle to the 809 01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:16,920 way I think about things, but I wouldn't describe myself at all as a 810 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:22,599 libertarian. So I'm totally fine with change, but I don't get that radical 811 01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:27,679 of a shift where it's like and also I don't get disliking someone so much 812 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,599 that you change your views about everything that they believe in. I don't like 813 01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:37,159 many people. Maybe that inoculates me against that kind of thing. Well, 814 01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:42,519 the people who dropped all their principles because of Donald Trump. That worked both 815 01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:45,800 ways for a bunch of people, and it works, you know for a 816 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,960 lot of these never Trumpers as well. So I think that he Trump just 817 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,199 broke his brain. Basically, I don't mind people changing their opinions either, 818 01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:55,920 but I think that a columnist. Again, maybe this is just like high 819 01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,559 minded of me need to explain why Jennifer Rubin takes the opposite position on everything 820 01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:06,519 now that she used to, Well, explain your evolution to that position when 821 01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:08,280 I became pro life. When I became pro life, I wrote a bunch 822 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,639 of columns explaining why that happened, what I saw in the world, and 823 01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:14,760 why I'm thinking that. And I'm not saying I'm better than these people. 824 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,840 Well I'm better than those people, but you know, I'm not better than 825 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,480 most people. But I think most people, when they have an evolution, 826 01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:23,039 explain it. Otherwise I'm just going to say you're just a cynical partisan who 827 01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:28,039 will take any position, which I think those people those I think those people 828 01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:31,800 are. All right, we've done bashing people. Do want to talk about 829 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:37,159 culture a little bit? Ye, anyone else we want to rip on? 830 01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:38,760 All right? So I too, have been working on a book. The 831 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:45,039 people asked that you shared with the staff that you were reading this book by 832 01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:49,480 pgr Work that was called Like Enemies List, and then we all had kind 833 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,000 of fun talking about our own enemies list, of which yours is probably the 834 01:02:53,079 --> 01:03:00,360 longest. Well, let me explain that that book was so the American Spector. 835 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,639 I'm not sure our younger younger people might not know. In the nineties 836 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,039 was just absolutely amazing. The American Spectator was like this radical I wouldn't not 837 01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:14,599 radical ideologically, but just this fun magazine. I think Byron new York actually 838 01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:17,559 worked there at the time. You yeah, who went after Clinton, who 839 01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:21,880 did a lot of reporting about you know, what Clinton had done in Arkansas, 840 01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:24,840 and it was very funny. So anyway, PG Ork wrote there, 841 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:30,440 and The American Spectator put out a book that he wrote called The Enemy's List, 842 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,880 which the list everyone he hated it, and then had readers send in 843 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:38,440 their enemies lists. And the one that was like, what on the list 844 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,679 was any any group that has the word piece in its name. Yeah, 845 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,679 there are a lot of people on that list who are still around. It's 846 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:50,239 kind of funny. Trump was on the list. Yeah, he said he's 847 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,239 not a comedy, but like you say, he had some kind of personal 848 01:03:52,239 --> 01:04:00,440 grudge against so well p anyway, sorry, culture, go on, Yeah, 849 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,960 I wrote it down here someone now I can't say, oh, here 850 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,559 it is. So I've also been writing a book and a few people email 851 01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:09,159 to ask what it's about, and basically, I don't want to get too 852 01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:13,119 far into it. But it is about the paranoid nature of left wing politics, 853 01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:17,800 and it is very inspired by PJ. Rock books like Parliament of Whoores. 854 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:23,760 So we'll be coming out next year hopefully people will buy it. What 855 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,320 did I do? I do not so anyway, I say that because I 856 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,239 did not have a lot of time to watch stuff. So here are the 857 01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:34,719 twenty movies I did watch. Reptile. I don't actually have twenty movies. 858 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:40,039 By the way, Reptile is a movie on Sorry for not laughing it, 859 01:04:40,239 --> 01:04:42,760 Yeah, I was like, I'm gonna have to put in a laugh track 860 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:48,320 there. It's a movie on Netflix with Benicio del Toro, who I'm a 861 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:53,360 big fan of a lot of expression in that man's face even when he's not 862 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:59,400 speaking, and Justin Timberlake and some other people who I don't know. So 863 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,679 now it was about Justin Timberlake. That's gonna say, Yeah, so apparently 864 01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:09,199 he pressure yeah, who knows if that's true, because Britney spears is not 865 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,599 exactly you know, I don't know. Maybe it's shere, maybe it's not. 866 01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:15,039 Whatever she had he had pressured her into an abortion. So then I'm 867 01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:17,119 like, I would not have watched this had I had I known that, 868 01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:19,719 but I watched it and I liked it. It's kind of a slow burn 869 01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:27,320 mystery in a small main town former. He's a former, like Philly Cop 870 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,480 or something. It was that right, I watch, Oh, do you 871 01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:31,599 want to go back and forth? Or do you want me to just do 872 01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:35,639 my list? Just go for it? I watched we watch Saving Private Ryan 873 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:40,400 while you watch that every few years. I don't know. I think it's 874 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,920 an excellent movie. Uh. I think it balances nicely. Yeah, I 875 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,199 don't need to tell you people, you've all seen it, but it balances 876 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,760 nicely sort of the heroism of people but also the cost of war. So 877 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,280 it's not one of you know, I remember watching movies when I was a 878 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,360 kid. A lot of these John Wayne Warr movies or whatever. You know, 879 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,840 it's just all heroism. Very rarely do they touch on on the hell 880 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,840 of you know, how bad war is and the hell of it. But 881 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:08,320 I think that and then in the sort of the eighties with the Vietnam War 882 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,519 movies, it was like Americans are going around killing everyone. They're terrible, 883 01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:14,880 they're the villain. And I think these movies sort of balance those two, 884 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,039 you know, balance that out better. So anyway, I watched that because 885 01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:25,199 oh, I just want to mention I watched Band of Brothers the Pacific and 886 01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:29,199 apparently there's a new one coming out about the Air Force during World War Two 887 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:30,840 on HBO soon, so I'm looking forward to that. And then finally, 888 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,679 I was watching a long documentary about David Beckham, the soccer player and his 889 01:06:34,719 --> 01:06:40,920 wife Posh Spice, which I was enjoying. It is that the one where 890 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,239 he makes fun of her for her trying to say she was working class growing 891 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,440 up. Absolutely, that was a funny scene. Yeah, he is so 892 01:06:48,519 --> 01:06:53,000 vapid, that guy. It is incredible. Yeah, oh my god, 893 01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:55,880 lie, like all he cared Like, don't get me wrong, I actually 894 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,920 like him, Like I like watching this documentary. I think he's an interest. 895 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,440 He had an interesting story and his wife, his marriage, they have 896 01:07:01,519 --> 01:07:04,800 I think four kids, they're married a long time. I'm happy. I'm 897 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,360 always like, oh, I'm so happy these people stayed married and aren't like 898 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,119 all other celebrities. But he is very vapid, Like a lot of his 899 01:07:12,199 --> 01:07:15,039 life's just about his clothing, his hair, Like, he doesn't really say 900 01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:18,039 anything very deep. And I used to think that he was just sort of 901 01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:20,880 a reserved person. But now I just think he doesn't have a lot of 902 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:26,159 thoughts in his head. Does that mean to say about somebody is billion piles? 903 01:07:26,159 --> 01:07:29,320 I just think you're the one who spent time watching a documentary on them. 904 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,039 So I'm not sure. It's not even one. It's like a series. 905 01:07:33,079 --> 01:07:35,760 I'm only on like two the second hour. I'm like, how long 906 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:40,079 is this? You're like, I'm going to be watching much more? Okay, 907 01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:45,119 So I did watch two things. One was with my students, and 908 01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:49,719 one was just because I was kind of fried from working. The one I 909 01:07:49,719 --> 01:07:55,360 watched because I was fried was Murder by Death, Which have you seen that 910 01:07:55,400 --> 01:08:00,039 as like nineteen seventy six? Maybe? Oh my, is that Peter Falk 911 01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:02,679 Alec Guinness? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 912 01:08:02,719 --> 01:08:06,119 yeah, yeah yeah. Peter Fark plays kind of like a boguard character 913 01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:09,679 or something. Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen it in many years. 914 01:08:09,719 --> 01:08:12,320 I love Peter Falk, love him. It is. I mean, there's 915 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,000 so many people in it, like Eileen Brennan, James Coco, David Niven, 916 01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:20,520 Maggie Smith, Truman, Capodi, like on and on and on, 917 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,760 but it was oh and Fey Ray. I just realized, Oh no, 918 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,119 that's her. I was like, how was she alive during that? I 919 01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:33,279 love those movies in the seventies where just like everyone everyone's in it. First. 920 01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:38,960 Yeah, I like stupid murder mysteries where everyone's trapped in the house and 921 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,720 it's actually a send up of that, and it's a send up of every 922 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:49,279 single mystery writer and their characters. So it was fine. It was actually 923 01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:53,640 not that great, but it was totally fine. And then each semester I 924 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,119 watch a movie with my students and they come over for lunch. And we 925 01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:01,119 did that this weekend, and usually we do Richard Jewel, and I thought, 926 01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:05,600 I can't handle Richard Jewel this weekend because it involves a bombing. And 927 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,359 I just didn't want to see a bombing because I thought that would be too 928 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,399 heavy. So I, in all my wisdom, showed them Ace in the 929 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:19,119 Hole, which is like a nineteen fifty one film about journalism, and it 930 01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:29,560 is the bleakest movie I have seen in a while. I really really like 931 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,319 this movie and I highly recommend it. It's a Billy Wilder film, and 932 01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:38,159 I think when it came out it bombed. It's about this guy played by 933 01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:41,720 Kirk Douglas who's like a New York newspaper man, and he kind of has 934 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:47,039 like been an alcoholic or slept with the publisher's wife or just gotten into trouble 935 01:09:47,079 --> 01:09:50,760 in every paper. So he ends up in Albuquerque and he tries to make 936 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,680 it go of it at this newspaper, and he's trying to get a big 937 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:59,000 enough story that he can be noticed by the big time East coast papers and 938 01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:05,520 get out of there. And so he happens upon mining or an incident where 939 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:10,960 a guy was like inside a mountain trying to get Indian collectibles out of there, 940 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,760 and then something caved in and he's trapped, and then it becomes this 941 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:20,079 huge story, and so it's about how he portrays the story, what he 942 01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:25,600 does to keep the story going, which is quite bad actually, and then 943 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,039 like how the American people respond to that story and what responsibility they have to 944 01:10:31,119 --> 01:10:36,039 keep our news from becoming like a circus. And it's great. It is 945 01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:41,199 a really really good movie. Have you not seen it? I've not even 946 01:10:41,239 --> 01:10:45,560 heard of it. And I try to watch every journal movie about journalism and 947 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,920 existence because there's so few that are good. So I will look into that 948 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,680 and watch it, please do. And it has my favorite line, which 949 01:10:54,760 --> 01:11:02,039 is even for Albuquerque. This is pretty Albuquerque asan thome, So I just 950 01:11:02,039 --> 01:11:06,520 don't quickly mention. I had not watched Richard Jewel when it came out or 951 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,880 a while, because I don't like movies about bombings and stuff either. But 952 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,800 I did watch it finally, and that guy, Paul, I looked him 953 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,000 up. Just new Paul Walter Houser, who plays Richard Jewell is just one 954 01:11:18,079 --> 01:11:21,680 of the greatest actors in America. I saw him in a show called Blackbird 955 01:11:23,159 --> 01:11:27,600 on Apple plus everything I've seen him in. I'm just blown away. He 956 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,840 was in Itania like he is just amazing. Okay, so I agree. 957 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,800 And do you know what he and I have in common? Did he go 958 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:39,119 to school with you or something? No? Okay, his father and my 959 01:11:39,279 --> 01:11:46,720 father are both missouris and and Lutheran pastors. Were they they like they knew 960 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,640 each other and were friendly or I have never even talked to my dad about 961 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:54,600 this. I just feel as a pastor's kid a bond with anyone else who's 962 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,159 a pastor's kid. I don't know anything about this guy. Actually, I 963 01:11:58,359 --> 01:12:01,600 don't know if he's Lutheran, practicing Lutheran whatever. He went to Valley Lutheran 964 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:09,199 High in Michigan. Oh and his yeah, Reverend Paul Houser, Lutheran minister. 965 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,359 There you go. Yeah. I like being a pastor's kid. I 966 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,840 recently met some other pastors kids and I was like, it's a cool It's 967 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,439 a cool gig if you can get it. So, Oh, I have 968 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:24,520 to tell this story really quickly. I'm having my parents read or do these 969 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,119 books that they write themselves. Each week, they're asked a question by this 970 01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:32,199 company called story Worth. I'm just giving this ad for free to story Worth. 971 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:39,520 Highly recommend story Worth. They send a question to your parent each week 972 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,640 and then the parent responds, and then at the end of the year it 973 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,920 gets put together in a book. I haven't seen the book yet, so 974 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,840 maybe it'll all be a disaster. But did it with my mom starting at 975 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,199 Christmas time, and did it with my dad starting just a few weeks ago. 976 01:12:51,399 --> 01:12:56,520 Each week he has the most amazing stories. Last week it was a 977 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,680 story about like, what's your favorite pet? I learned about pets I never 978 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,000 knew, including a dog that he rescued basically from a girl he went to 979 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:10,640 college with. The dog's name was Cocaine. I just told you my dad's 980 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,840 a Lutheran pastor. I was not expecting my dad to have a dog named 981 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,760 Cocaine anyways in the seventies, so that seems to it was in the sixties, 982 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:21,680 and yeah, and he anyway, So also then this week, the 983 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:26,520 question was like, if you could have all the money in the world, 984 01:13:26,039 --> 01:13:30,560 what what would you do with it? And he was like, oh, 985 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,000 I've been blessed by the way my parents are very poor. So that's like 986 01:13:33,119 --> 01:13:38,680 the starting point here. He's like, I've been blessed to have so much 987 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,720 in life, and that God has taught me how to work with the money 988 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,039 that he has given me. I do wish that my wife and kids could 989 01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:47,279 have had more, but we may do. And he tells a story about 990 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,479 how my mom wanted this ceramic Christmas tree when they were at the seminary that 991 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,079 my dad was studying at, and they couldn't afford it because he didn't want 992 01:13:55,079 --> 01:14:00,119 to have any debt in college or graduate school. And so finally the ceramic 993 01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:04,159 Christmas tree went on sale from like twenty nine dollars to twenty three dollars and 994 01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:06,600 he could buy it for her. And how what a blessing this has been 995 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,720 their whole life to have this beautiful ceramic Christmas tree, which I will say 996 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,399 goes out every single year, and my mother thinks it's like the most amazing 997 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:21,119 thing anyway, And he's like, but my real treasure is my friendships. 998 01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:26,640 And he names my godfather, Denny Jost as this one treasured friendship and how 999 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,159 he's helped him in being a source of comfort. And then this other friend, 1000 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,039 Ron Mueller. These are both pastors, by the way, and how 1001 01:14:34,079 --> 01:14:40,640 that's my sister's godfather and a what a brilliant and wise man he is. 1002 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,319 And the treasure that comes in these friendships. And then like mostly the treasure 1003 01:14:44,359 --> 01:14:47,479 is the word of God. And so that was my dad's answer to how 1004 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:53,319 you would what you would do with money. I send it to my brother 1005 01:14:53,359 --> 01:14:56,119 and sister and I was like, I think our dad is a saint. 1006 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,159 Anyway, I would just drop it on dark money group, my dark money 1007 01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:06,000 on all kinds of crazy like anarchy groups. That's why I'm not a saint 1008 01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:10,159 or a Lutheran pastor. But let me ask you something. Can you repeat 1009 01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:15,439 the company's name story worth? I think I've seen this. If you make 1010 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,399 that up, I don't know, you know what it's an approximation probably of 1011 01:15:19,399 --> 01:15:23,039 the name. And that's fine. It is. It's a story worth I 1012 01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:26,079 just looked it up. There was this guy political math. He's written for 1013 01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:29,439 us a few times on Twitter, and he recommended it last year as like 1014 01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,119 the best gift he's ever given. I agree. It is not just a 1015 01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:35,600 gift to my parents. It's a gift to me and my siblings and our 1016 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:41,800 children to have these stories written down. And it's a totally doable thing, 1017 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,000 like you do it in a nice chunk each week, and so they can 1018 01:15:45,039 --> 01:15:49,840 handle it and put some time into it. Also, I learned that both 1019 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:54,359 of my parents are really good writers, which I guess I should have realized 1020 01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:57,720 before that, because you're a good writer. I'm like, oh, where 1021 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,960 did I learn my writing skills? I've seen this sort of thing. I 1022 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,279 think other companies do it as well. A lot of times. It's like 1023 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:08,560 right, you know, asks prompts, questions so that you can learn about 1024 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,079 your family's history and things like that. My dad did not need any promptings. 1025 01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:17,319 He wrote me a probably one hundred thousand word book about our family's history. 1026 01:16:17,359 --> 01:16:21,600 He's super into learning about you know. He has like a big like 1027 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:26,039 chart of our family history. And stuff for your family tree and say he's 1028 01:16:26,079 --> 01:16:30,399 like super into that stuff. So I have a book probably around one hundred 1029 01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:32,279 and hundred and fifty thousand words, I would say, of our family history, 1030 01:16:32,279 --> 01:16:38,680 which is which I treasure because you know, instead of having to ask 1031 01:16:39,039 --> 01:16:42,079 those questions, I have it all there. So anyway, so that's trying 1032 01:16:42,119 --> 01:16:45,600 to prod my mom to give me her side of this history. But it's 1033 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,840 a little harder. Yeah, but maybe this is this Yeah yeah, all 1034 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:54,880 right, that's great. So that's it. That's all all right, very 1035 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,319 passionate episode. I think we'll be back next week with another passionate episode, 1036 01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:08,760 and until then, Lovers of Freedom and Anxious for the frit HM