Right American coming up on June sixteenth is going to be an effort by the
Los Angeles Dodgers to have a night in which certain groups are going to be
asked to appear relative to LGBTQ plus materials. And of course, the Sisters
of Perpetual Indulgence have a long history of publicly and disgustingly mocking the Catholic Faith,
including mock crucifixions with poll dancers. And I can't imagine this working anywhere
but in Los Angeles or New York. Would not work in Cincinnati, where
I broadcast from. But a person involved in this is Tommy Valentine. He's
a spokesman for the Catholic Vote Group. It's calling for a boycott and everything
Dodgers related. And I noticed that there's been at least a couple of pictures
for the Dodgers and others that have come out to said this will not stand.
Tommy Valentine, welcome, I think for the first time to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And Tommy, can you first tell the American people. I
don't have much history with the Sisters of Perpetual Indulge in can you give us
an example of the type of things that they do. Yeah, well,
first, thanks for having me on Bill, and I wish we had a
more pleasant topic to talk about. And this is These are words that I
would ever expect to come out of my mouth, but I have to tell
people what this group is all about. This is a group of men who
dress as drag queen versions of nuns, but they go far beyond that.
They do some of most vile, disgusting, despicable acts that you could even
imagine. As you mentioned, they did some sort of display on Easter Sunday
in San Francisco where they had a man dressed as Jesus carry across up a
hill and then perform a pole dance on the cross, and it devolved in
all sorts of debauchery. They have cope bane names, which are vile travesties
of the names and symbols that Christians and Catholics have held deer for two thousand
years. They dressed in grotesque versions of the robes that nuns wear, and
just all manner of things that go well beyond parity or satire, which is
what they claim to be. They know exactly what it takes to offend Christians
and do the most disgusting things they can do with the traditions that so many
billions of people across California and across the world. Old dear and I held
dear for the last two thousand years. Like together, more facts can you
tell us about how long this group has existed? I understand that there are
dozens and dozens and major American cities. It's a performance art. And to
use the term disgusting detestable, I guess it's okay to mock Christianity and mock
those who believe in religion. But it's not okay. I what, for
example, if a white supremacist group went to the Los Angeles Dodgers and said,
you know what, we want to dress in blackface and perform Mammy Out
in Chavez Ravine. Would that fly? No, it wouldn't. And you
bring up an excellent point, which is that bigotry disguise as entertainment is still
bigotry. So this group has been around since I believe nineteen seventy nine.
They started in San Francisco, and they've existed on the fringes of society for
decades now. We decided to pick this fight because we couldn't let an all
American institution like the Los Angeles Dodgers, which is first of all, multi
billion dollar corporation, but more importantly a group, a team with deep roots
in American culture, to give a platform to a group like this, bring
them out of the fringes, put them in the mainstream. We couldn't let
that stand. And so let's be clear. This is an anti Catholic a
group, no doubt about it, and anything under the LGBTQ banner, I
guess is exfused as long as it supports that ideology. I'm not quite sure,
but you bring up another good point, which is that this would never
fly with another religion. You wouldn't have drag queen stress as Muhammad. You
wouldn't have drag queen stress as Jewish rabbis. There would be howls of protests.
The Christians are the last group in America it's acceptable to mock and degreed
in this way. As far as the efforts in the past, I understand
about a week or two ago the Dodgers said, no, we're not going
to let this particular group come for Pride Night, and then just a little
bit of pressure came from radical left wing extremists and the Dodgers quickly backtrack.
Explain why they said. I guess they said yes originally, then they said
no, and now they're back to yes. Explain that process. Yeah,
the timeline is pretty interesting. So we first heard about it. It was
actually from a reader of our daily newsletter, which is The Loop, but
an email list with over a quarter billion subscribers, and he said, I'm
a lifelong Dodgers man. I saw that they're planning to honor this group on
their quote unquote Pride Night, you know, wondering if you guys can do
something about it. So we broke the story, and then Senator Mark with
Rubio Florida sent a letter to the Dodgers, as did a few other groups,
and with in thirty six hours of everybody, all the you know,
people on our side getting involved, the Dodgers decided to rescind the invitation,
and we thought great. You know, we had a small ask. We
didn't even ask them to cancel Pride Night, even though we disagree with it.
We just said, please don't honor this vile, despicable, anti Catholic
hate group. But then the mainstream media, the left wing media, and
extreme pressure groups started applying a typical pressure campaign on the Dodgers to reinvite the
quote unquote Sisters of Precretual Indulgence, and their team president, Seeing Caston,
gave a quote to the La Times saying, while we're listening to everybody,
we're deciding what to do, and we thought, okay, great, maybe
he'll call us and want to hear more about why we oppose this group.
We never got a phone call. They decided to reinvite the group. They
only engaged with the LGBT groups, never called us. And that's why we
are here where we are today. And I think what you're seeing is that
this story is only growing, and it's going to continue to grow until this
happens on June sixteenth, and it's going to continue after because Catholic Book has
launched a one million dollar campaign in the LA media market to inform all the
four million Catholics in the Archdiocese of La Alone, and the millions more Christians
of all denominations, the people of all faiths, that the Dodgers hate their
faith, that the Dodgers stand with the worst anti Catholic a group, that
the Dodgers think that their faith is worthy of mockery and being made fun of.
And so we're launching TV TV commercials and radio ads and billboards and digital
ads, and we have much more to come, and people are not going
to hear the end of this. We're going to keep it going throughout the
twenty twenty three season into the playoffs, and if we need to, we'll
keep it going for years to come. And we're not going to stop until
everybody knows exactly what the Dodgers support. And this is the same organization,
Major League Baseball, that took the All Star Game out of the state of
Georgia because of the sensitivities of minorities. And that was a joke because there
was nothing about the voting in Georgia. The legislation passed that was somehow anti
black, anti Democrat, or whatever it might be. And quickly Major League
Baseball said, well, the All Star Game cannot be in Georgia because of
the passing of voter id laws. We can't have that, moved it out
quickly to Denver. And so Stan Casson is also the same character who worked
for many years with the Atlanta Braves. Tommy Valentine, can you address yourself
to the issue of culture wars when I watch MSNBC, and I watch it
so you don't have to. I watch MSNBC and they blame conservatives, and
they blame Christians and Jews and religious individuals. It is our fault for responding
to this that we're winning the culture. We want to fight the culture wars.
But isn't it true that the left, the radical left, are the
ones putting the ball in play and all we're doing is responding, Yeah,
that's exactly right. I think what you're seeing is that the tide is turning.
You know, people on the right and people see are willing to put
up with a lot. Like we recognize we're not in the majority when it
comes to elite culture and the media, but we just asked that we're not
mocked, made fun of, you know, made to look like fools,
and we're not going to stand for this. I think you bring up an
important point about MLB and the culture wars in general. And I think this
is a message that Rob Manfread, the Commissioner Baseball, needs to hear.
Is that if you're a lifelong Dodge San and you're a Catholic or even any
form of Christian and you see the Dodgers standing with like this. You know,
it's not like bud Light or Target, where you can find another beer
brand, you can find another grocery store, you can find a small business
to support in your local community. With baseball, teams are something you invest
in from the time you're a child, and if you find out that your
team is engaging in this grotesque bigotry against your faith, chances are you're not
gonna go become a Giant fan or a Red fan or a Phillies fan.
You're just gonna stop watching baseball. And I think you saw a little bit
of that with the Allstar Game that you referenced a couple of years ago.
People said, I don't want my sports, which is my leisure time,
to be infected by politics. And I think you're going to see that with
all the La Podger stamps, that we're going to desert the team. And
again they're not going to go become Giants fans, They're just going to stop
watching baseball. And I think there's so broadly, there's more of us than
the media leaves us to believe, and when we stand together, we can
be really powerful, and so we need to keep doing it well. The
Squeaky wheel gets the grease. And when I hear the arguments about the cultural
wars and that somehow the great bulk of the silent majority of Americans put up
with this crap all the time without responding to it, every now and then
the outrage meter becomes over the top and normal people have got to say,
this is not the kind of world in which I want to live. I
could not imagine any other religion mocked in such a disgusting fashion and having no
response at all from the mainstream media. In fact, when I watch CNN
or MSNBC, read the New York Times Washington Post, there's little or no
coverage. And when the coverage of people like you and me are cover,
it's in a way that we're responding to culture wars. Something's wrong with us.
If I want to go to a Target store, which I've not been
in in years, so I can't call for a boycott if something I haven't
done myself. I'm not a shopper, I've not gone there, but to
have in the front of the store a little pouch down in the crotch area
for an eight year old girl to buy a bathing suit in case as an
eight year old boy who wants to identify as a girl. It touches upon
the issues of bigotry and two genders, not one hundred and seven different genders.
But it does relate that average Americans who want to drink a bud light
or average Americans that want to go to a target store and not be highly
offended by presentations. We're finally getting the queue that maybe we should be involved.
And so for those who live in the southern California area on June sixteenth,
coming up in about two weeks or so, well, what can they
do if stan Casting and the Dodgers continue to do this, even the Dodgers
pitch don't like it in a proactive way, what can be done? Yeah,
we'll take for bringing that part up, because this is an important piece
of it. So we at CALVI of Vote are working on a couple different
things. We are going to have a present We're just working on exactly what
that'd look like. And this is not going to go unnoticed. But in
the meantime, people should call and email the Dodgers, and they should tag
them on social media. You know, a lot of what happens with these
pressure campaigns from the left is that they will get you know, a few
hundred or a couple of thousand people to tweet into the Dodgers or target or
bud light and express their outrage on behalf of the left to make themselves look
like the majority. And they'll even employ probots and automated programs to do that
sort of thing. So we need to push back. We need to make
our voices heard. So we've posted on our westside of cavok dot org ways
people can get in touch with the Dodgers. We have the email address of
the marketing director who originally cook this up. We have the direct phone number
of the Dodgers executive bosses. They need to hear our voices, and so
people in California and people across the country need to be calling, emailing and
tagging the Dodgers on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, any platform that you view.
And then, like I said, for people in southern California, please
say tuned to or website of catholicook dot org because it will be announcing very
soon what we plan to do about this in person in California. Tommy Valentine,
how do you respond to the argument that you're the bigot? It's a
nice argument to make. In other words, I engage in disgusting behavior,
then I accuse you of the items and the ideas that I promote. How
do you respond to those who say this is you're encouraging the killing of gay
people, and as an American, I say, look, let the golden
rule prevail. Treat others as you would like to be treated. Treat people.
I don't care if you're gay, bisexual, gay, whatever it might
be, have at it. Live your life, but don't jam your lifestyle
down my throat. Live your life as I live my life as a practicing
heterosexual. I don't think heterosexuals, which have got to be ninety seven ninety
eight percent of the adult population, want to have their forms of publicized identified
and celebrate it. Those are private matters between a man and a woman.
But if you're a gay couple and you want to live your life, how
do you respond to the argument that somehow you want to encourage transgender kids to
kill themselves or you're the problem in keeping them from getting proper jobs, which
I don't want that to happen. I don't want anybody kill themselves. I
want everyone to live their life well, live it quietly. If you want
to have a certain form of sex and private as an adult, have at
it. It's not illegal. Enjoy your life, work, do whatever you're
going to do in your life. But I want to live my life too,
So how do you respond to the fact that you're encouraging suicide among transgender
youth? For example, that is the argument I hear that Tommy Valentine's the
Catholic votes to Christians, the Muslims, the Jews of this world want to
encourage kids who are confused about their gender identity to kill themselves, which I
don't want that to happen. How do you respond to that, Well,
it's just a lie, sa vicious lie, and it's a lie that is
actually positing life of transgendered children, ironically, because studies have shown over and
over again that these mutilation surgeries that these poor children and their parents are convinced
to undergo by highly paid doctors speaking from positions of authority, do not improve
mental health outcomes and usually worse than them. That's thought to say, there
might be there might not be some trans kids somewhere who lives a happy life
after having his generals mutilated, but that's not the norm, and that's not
what the science shows, and so they do that as a way of a
scaring the parent into paying these hospitals and these crooked doctors hundreds of thousands of
dollars, because if you have a child who's said through one of these surgeries,
you have a lifelong medical patient who's going to be worth a ton of
money to the hospital or whatever healthcare system performed these mutilations. And so it's
a way of just scaring people into silence. And I think the answer to
lies is the truth. You know, we can respond with science. I
think people need to understand the studies are out there and the studies do not
line up with that. But we can also respond with the truth that everybody
knows, which is that it's not easy being human. You know, every
teenager goes through some days where they question their bodies and question their identities.
That's a normal part of development. And some kids, yes, some kids
have it worse than others. You know, I've struggled with mental health issues
of my own, not on this topic, but on other issues. And
if if my doctors and my therapists told me, you know, all your
fears are true and you need to take this drastic step to improve your life.
That would be a lie that would not help me. And I'm glad
that I had doctors who were in my corner who helped me to understand what
the truth wasn't. What my brain wasn't was telling me was not true.
And so that's why it's especially offensive to me that the people and positions of
power and supposed authority are willing to lie to kids and to lie to their
parents by saying you have to do this or you'll end up because it's just
not true. So we need to speak for the truth. Tommy Valentine,
I want nothing bad to happen to any transgender kid. Everyone should get to
help help. They need the great majority of those in their twenties and thirties
to do this. Look back upon it without happiness, without glee. They
believe they made a mistake, and I just I want everyone to live their
best, fullest life that they can live, no matter what their status is
in life. But I do know I do not win bigotry disguise as entertainment
to somehow being Dodgers Stadium on June sixteenth, We'll see what happens once again,
Tommy Valentine, thank you, for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And if everything goes well once again, Catholic vote dot org is the website.
And thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And keep doing
what you're doing. You're not a bigot. You oppose bigotry. Tommy Valentine,
thank you very much, Thank you, Bill, appreciate your time today.
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