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Right American coming up on June sixteenth
is going to be an effort by the

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Los Angeles Dodgers to have a night
in which certain groups are going to be

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asked to appear relative to LGBTQ plus
materials. And of course, the Sisters

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of Perpetual Indulgence have a long history
of publicly and disgustingly mocking the Catholic Faith,

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including mock crucifixions with poll dancers.
And I can't imagine this working anywhere

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but in Los Angeles or New York. Would not work in Cincinnati, where

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I broadcast from. But a person
involved in this is Tommy Valentine. He's

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a spokesman for the Catholic Vote Group. It's calling for a boycott and everything

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Dodgers related. And I noticed that
there's been at least a couple of pictures

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for the Dodgers and others that have
come out to said this will not stand.

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Tommy Valentine, welcome, I think
for the first time to the Bill

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Cunningham Show. And Tommy, can
you first tell the American people. I

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don't have much history with the Sisters
of Perpetual Indulge in can you give us

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an example of the type of things
that they do. Yeah, well,

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first, thanks for having me on
Bill, and I wish we had a

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more pleasant topic to talk about.
And this is These are words that I

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would ever expect to come out of
my mouth, but I have to tell

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people what this group is all about. This is a group of men who

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dress as drag queen versions of nuns, but they go far beyond that.

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They do some of most vile,
disgusting, despicable acts that you could even

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imagine. As you mentioned, they
did some sort of display on Easter Sunday

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in San Francisco where they had a
man dressed as Jesus carry across up a

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hill and then perform a pole dance
on the cross, and it devolved in

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all sorts of debauchery. They have
cope bane names, which are vile travesties

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of the names and symbols that Christians
and Catholics have held deer for two thousand

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years. They dressed in grotesque versions
of the robes that nuns wear, and

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just all manner of things that go
well beyond parity or satire, which is

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what they claim to be. They
know exactly what it takes to offend Christians

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and do the most disgusting things they
can do with the traditions that so many

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billions of people across California and across
the world. Old dear and I held

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dear for the last two thousand years. Like together, more facts can you

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tell us about how long this group
has existed? I understand that there are

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dozens and dozens and major American cities. It's a performance art. And to

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use the term disgusting detestable, I
guess it's okay to mock Christianity and mock

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those who believe in religion. But
it's not okay. I what, for

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example, if a white supremacist group
went to the Los Angeles Dodgers and said,

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you know what, we want to
dress in blackface and perform Mammy Out

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in Chavez Ravine. Would that fly? No, it wouldn't. And you

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bring up an excellent point, which
is that bigotry disguise as entertainment is still

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bigotry. So this group has been
around since I believe nineteen seventy nine.

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They started in San Francisco, and
they've existed on the fringes of society for

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decades now. We decided to pick
this fight because we couldn't let an all

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American institution like the Los Angeles Dodgers, which is first of all, multi

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billion dollar corporation, but more importantly
a group, a team with deep roots

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in American culture, to give a
platform to a group like this, bring

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them out of the fringes, put
them in the mainstream. We couldn't let

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that stand. And so let's be
clear. This is an anti Catholic a

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group, no doubt about it,
and anything under the LGBTQ banner, I

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guess is exfused as long as it
supports that ideology. I'm not quite sure,

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but you bring up another good point, which is that this would never

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fly with another religion. You wouldn't
have drag queen stress as Muhammad. You

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wouldn't have drag queen stress as Jewish
rabbis. There would be howls of protests.

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The Christians are the last group in
America it's acceptable to mock and degreed

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in this way. As far as
the efforts in the past, I understand

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about a week or two ago the
Dodgers said, no, we're not going

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to let this particular group come for
Pride Night, and then just a little

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bit of pressure came from radical left
wing extremists and the Dodgers quickly backtrack.

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Explain why they said. I guess
they said yes originally, then they said

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no, and now they're back to
yes. Explain that process. Yeah,

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the timeline is pretty interesting. So
we first heard about it. It was

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actually from a reader of our daily
newsletter, which is The Loop, but

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an email list with over a quarter
billion subscribers, and he said, I'm

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a lifelong Dodgers man. I saw
that they're planning to honor this group on

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their quote unquote Pride Night, you
know, wondering if you guys can do

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something about it. So we broke
the story, and then Senator Mark with

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Rubio Florida sent a letter to the
Dodgers, as did a few other groups,

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and with in thirty six hours of
everybody, all the you know,

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people on our side getting involved,
the Dodgers decided to rescind the invitation,

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and we thought great. You know, we had a small ask. We

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didn't even ask them to cancel Pride
Night, even though we disagree with it.

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We just said, please don't honor
this vile, despicable, anti Catholic

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hate group. But then the mainstream
media, the left wing media, and

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extreme pressure groups started applying a typical
pressure campaign on the Dodgers to reinvite the

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quote unquote Sisters of Precretual Indulgence,
and their team president, Seeing Caston,

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gave a quote to the La Times
saying, while we're listening to everybody,

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we're deciding what to do, and
we thought, okay, great, maybe

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he'll call us and want to hear
more about why we oppose this group.

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We never got a phone call.
They decided to reinvite the group. They

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only engaged with the LGBT groups,
never called us. And that's why we

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are here where we are today.
And I think what you're seeing is that

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this story is only growing, and
it's going to continue to grow until this

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happens on June sixteenth, and it's
going to continue after because Catholic Book has

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launched a one million dollar campaign in
the LA media market to inform all the

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four million Catholics in the Archdiocese of
La Alone, and the millions more Christians

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of all denominations, the people of
all faiths, that the Dodgers hate their

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faith, that the Dodgers stand with
the worst anti Catholic a group, that

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the Dodgers think that their faith is
worthy of mockery and being made fun of.

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And so we're launching TV TV commercials
and radio ads and billboards and digital

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ads, and we have much more
to come, and people are not going

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to hear the end of this.
We're going to keep it going throughout the

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twenty twenty three season into the playoffs, and if we need to, we'll

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keep it going for years to come. And we're not going to stop until

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everybody knows exactly what the Dodgers support. And this is the same organization,

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Major League Baseball, that took the
All Star Game out of the state of

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Georgia because of the sensitivities of minorities. And that was a joke because there

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was nothing about the voting in Georgia. The legislation passed that was somehow anti

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black, anti Democrat, or whatever
it might be. And quickly Major League

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Baseball said, well, the All
Star Game cannot be in Georgia because of

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the passing of voter id laws.
We can't have that, moved it out

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quickly to Denver. And so Stan
Casson is also the same character who worked

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for many years with the Atlanta Braves. Tommy Valentine, can you address yourself

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to the issue of culture wars when
I watch MSNBC, and I watch it

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so you don't have to. I
watch MSNBC and they blame conservatives, and

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they blame Christians and Jews and religious
individuals. It is our fault for responding

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to this that we're winning the culture. We want to fight the culture wars.

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But isn't it true that the left, the radical left, are the

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ones putting the ball in play and
all we're doing is responding, Yeah,

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that's exactly right. I think what
you're seeing is that the tide is turning.

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You know, people on the right
and people see are willing to put

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up with a lot. Like we
recognize we're not in the majority when it

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comes to elite culture and the media, but we just asked that we're not

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mocked, made fun of, you
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and we're not going to stand for
this. I think you bring up an

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important point about MLB and the culture
wars in general. And I think this

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is a message that Rob Manfread,
the Commissioner Baseball, needs to hear.

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Is that if you're a lifelong Dodge
San and you're a Catholic or even any

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form of Christian and you see the
Dodgers standing with like this. You know,

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it's not like bud Light or Target, where you can find another beer

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brand, you can find another grocery
store, you can find a small business

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to support in your local community.
With baseball, teams are something you invest

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in from the time you're a child, and if you find out that your

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team is engaging in this grotesque bigotry
against your faith, chances are you're not

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gonna go become a Giant fan or
a Red fan or a Phillies fan.

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You're just gonna stop watching baseball.
And I think you saw a little bit

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of that with the Allstar Game that
you referenced a couple of years ago.

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People said, I don't want my
sports, which is my leisure time,

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to be infected by politics. And
I think you're going to see that with

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all the La Podger stamps, that
we're going to desert the team. And

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again they're not going to go become
Giants fans, They're just going to stop

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watching baseball. And I think there's
so broadly, there's more of us than

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the media leaves us to believe,
and when we stand together, we can

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be really powerful, and so we
need to keep doing it well. The

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Squeaky wheel gets the grease. And
when I hear the arguments about the cultural

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wars and that somehow the great bulk
of the silent majority of Americans put up

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with this crap all the time without
responding to it, every now and then

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the outrage meter becomes over the top
and normal people have got to say,

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this is not the kind of world
in which I want to live. I

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could not imagine any other religion mocked
in such a disgusting fashion and having no

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response at all from the mainstream media. In fact, when I watch CNN

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or MSNBC, read the New York
Times Washington Post, there's little or no

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coverage. And when the coverage of
people like you and me are cover,

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it's in a way that we're responding
to culture wars. Something's wrong with us.

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If I want to go to a
Target store, which I've not been

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in in years, so I can't
call for a boycott if something I haven't

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done myself. I'm not a shopper, I've not gone there, but to

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have in the front of the store
a little pouch down in the crotch area

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for an eight year old girl to
buy a bathing suit in case as an

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eight year old boy who wants to
identify as a girl. It touches upon

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the issues of bigotry and two genders, not one hundred and seven different genders.

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But it does relate that average Americans
who want to drink a bud light

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or average Americans that want to go
to a target store and not be highly

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offended by presentations. We're finally getting
the queue that maybe we should be involved.

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And so for those who live in
the southern California area on June sixteenth,

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coming up in about two weeks or
so, well, what can they

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do if stan Casting and the Dodgers
continue to do this, even the Dodgers

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pitch don't like it in a proactive
way, what can be done? Yeah,

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we'll take for bringing that part up, because this is an important piece

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of it. So we at CALVI
of Vote are working on a couple different

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things. We are going to have
a present We're just working on exactly what

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that'd look like. And this is
not going to go unnoticed. But in

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the meantime, people should call and
email the Dodgers, and they should tag

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them on social media. You know, a lot of what happens with these

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pressure campaigns from the left is that
they will get you know, a few

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hundred or a couple of thousand people
to tweet into the Dodgers or target or

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bud light and express their outrage on
behalf of the left to make themselves look

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like the majority. And they'll even
employ probots and automated programs to do that

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sort of thing. So we need
to push back. We need to make

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our voices heard. So we've posted
on our westside of cavok dot org ways

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people can get in touch with the
Dodgers. We have the email address of

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the marketing director who originally cook this
up. We have the direct phone number

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of the Dodgers executive bosses. They
need to hear our voices, and so

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people in California and people across the
country need to be calling, emailing and

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tagging the Dodgers on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, any platform that you view.

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And then, like I said,
for people in southern California, please

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say tuned to or website of catholicook
dot org because it will be announcing very

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soon what we plan to do about
this in person in California. Tommy Valentine,

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how do you respond to the argument
that you're the bigot? It's a

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nice argument to make. In other
words, I engage in disgusting behavior,

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then I accuse you of the items
and the ideas that I promote. How

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do you respond to those who say
this is you're encouraging the killing of gay

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people, and as an American,
I say, look, let the golden

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rule prevail. Treat others as you
would like to be treated. Treat people.

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I don't care if you're gay,
bisexual, gay, whatever it might

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be, have at it. Live
your life, but don't jam your lifestyle

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down my throat. Live your life
as I live my life as a practicing

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heterosexual. I don't think heterosexuals,
which have got to be ninety seven ninety

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eight percent of the adult population,
want to have their forms of publicized identified

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and celebrate it. Those are private
matters between a man and a woman.

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But if you're a gay couple and
you want to live your life, how

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do you respond to the argument that
somehow you want to encourage transgender kids to

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kill themselves or you're the problem in
keeping them from getting proper jobs, which

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I don't want that to happen.
I don't want anybody kill themselves. I

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want everyone to live their life well, live it quietly. If you want

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to have a certain form of sex
and private as an adult, have at

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it. It's not illegal. Enjoy
your life, work, do whatever you're

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going to do in your life.
But I want to live my life too,

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So how do you respond to the
fact that you're encouraging suicide among transgender

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youth? For example, that is
the argument I hear that Tommy Valentine's the

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Catholic votes to Christians, the Muslims, the Jews of this world want to

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encourage kids who are confused about their
gender identity to kill themselves, which I

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don't want that to happen. How
do you respond to that, Well,

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it's just a lie, sa vicious
lie, and it's a lie that is

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actually positing life of transgendered children,
ironically, because studies have shown over and

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over again that these mutilation surgeries that
these poor children and their parents are convinced

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to undergo by highly paid doctors speaking
from positions of authority, do not improve

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mental health outcomes and usually worse than
them. That's thought to say, there

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might be there might not be some
trans kids somewhere who lives a happy life

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after having his generals mutilated, but
that's not the norm, and that's not

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what the science shows, and so
they do that as a way of a

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scaring the parent into paying these hospitals
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dollars, because if you have a
child who's said through one of these surgeries,

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you have a lifelong medical patient who's
going to be worth a ton of

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money to the hospital or whatever healthcare
system performed these mutilations. And so it's

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a way of just scaring people into
silence. And I think the answer to

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lies is the truth. You know, we can respond with science. I

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think people need to understand the studies
are out there and the studies do not

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line up with that. But we
can also respond with the truth that everybody

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knows, which is that it's not
easy being human. You know, every

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teenager goes through some days where they
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That's a normal part of development.
And some kids, yes, some kids

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have it worse than others. You
know, I've struggled with mental health issues

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of my own, not on this
topic, but on other issues. And

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if if my doctors and my therapists
told me, you know, all your

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fears are true and you need to
take this drastic step to improve your life.

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That would be a lie that would
not help me. And I'm glad

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that I had doctors who were in
my corner who helped me to understand what

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the truth wasn't. What my brain
wasn't was telling me was not true.

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And so that's why it's especially offensive
to me that the people and positions of

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power and supposed authority are willing to
lie to kids and to lie to their

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parents by saying you have to do
this or you'll end up because it's just

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not true. So we need to
speak for the truth. Tommy Valentine,

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I want nothing bad to happen to
any transgender kid. Everyone should get to

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help help. They need the great
majority of those in their twenties and thirties

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to do this. Look back upon
it without happiness, without glee. They

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believe they made a mistake, and
I just I want everyone to live their

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best, fullest life that they can
live, no matter what their status is

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in life. But I do know
I do not win bigotry disguise as entertainment

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to somehow being Dodgers Stadium on June
sixteenth, We'll see what happens once again,

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Tommy Valentine, thank you, for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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And if everything goes well once again, Catholic vote dot org is the website.

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And thank you for coming on the
Bill Cunningham Show. And keep doing

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what you're doing. You're not a
bigot. You oppose bigotry. Tommy Valentine,

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thank you very much, Thank you, Bill, appreciate your time today.

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God bless America. All right,
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