WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.399 --> 00:00:06.040 All right, listen up, Caves, I got your assignments riga six four 2 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:12.240 three wheeler one four eight n eight oh four and only you. You need 3 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:16.440 to join host HP and Father Alone as they examine one of the greatest sitcoms 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:23.000 in television history, Taxi in Night Mister Walters, a taxi podcast BANDA zero 5 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:41.200 like your boxing record, Frank, mister Walters, we are we now check 6 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:49.240 this one. If you will tonight we offer you these summer food of a 7 00:00:49.320 --> 00:01:02.359 scientist figure. But there are at least some things that can be accomplished, 8 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:14.719 and they're in life the tail end. Thanks the picture Bisness The Night Gallery. 9 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:21.799 Welcome back art lovers to Midnight Viewing The Night Gallery Podcast, where we 10 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:25.640 discuss Night Gallery, Rod Serling's follow up to The Twilight Zone. I'm Father 11 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:29.280 Malone in with me. Here in the gallery are the culture cast Chris Statue. 12 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:36.239 There's something something in the woodward and the projection booths, Mike White, 13 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:41.719 Why have you disturbed me? Tonight? We're talking about two episodes from season 14 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:47.640 three, episodes eleven and twelve. Something in the woodwork, stairways, comwebs, 15 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.120 and darkness. It's called something in the Woodwork. It tells you what 16 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:55.400 one might look for when purchasing a house, because that creek you hear and 17 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:59.000 the dead of night is not always an air a rafter. Sometimes if you 18 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:01.560 walk up those at steps, you'll find yourself face to face with the very 19 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:06.640 thing that goes thump in the night. This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is 20 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:10.800 The Night Gallery. Something in the Woodwork is season three, episode eleven. 21 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:15.520 It was. It first aired on January the fourteenth, nineteen seventy three. 22 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:19.639 This was written by Rod Serling, based on the short story Housebound by our 23 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:24.000 chetwynd Hayes and directed by Edward m. Abrams. Now he is mainly an 24 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:28.919 editor. He edited the pilot for Night Gallery, but he directed a great 25 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:32.800 deal of episodic television. Weirdly, if he directed on one series, he 26 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:38.120 wouldn't edit on it, and vice versa. It was interesting also our chetwynd 27 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:42.520 Hayes, Chris, do you recognize that name? Can we watch something right 28 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:47.280 recently? Welcome the Monster Club? Right? Yeah? Ur chetwynd Hayes. 29 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:52.879 He's an English author, wrote tons and tons of short stories and this is 30 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:57.719 one of them. There has been at least one other r chetwyn Hayes story 31 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:00.759 adapted in Night Gallery. No, yes, I believe we had one other, 32 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:04.960 just making sure because I recognized I thought you were asking, because I 33 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.080 was like, oh, yeah, he's done another. There was another Night 34 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:13.479 Gallery story. But then the Monster club Boy that Jesus Christ. That's the 35 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.919 main one. Baby, that's a good one. I love that one anyway. 36 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:20.800 This one stars Geraldine Page third times. The charm and leife ericson second 37 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:23.319 time works too. I just want to say that, if nothing else, 38 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:29.360 rewatching these episodes of Ninth Gallery has given me an appreciation for Geraldine Page every 39 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:34.280 single time, and that's extended into feature films. Chris and I recently watched 40 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:37.759 The Pope of Greenwich Village, which she was fucking phenomenal in, and she's 41 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:42.719 fucking great here. She's so far played a frantic housewife and an old crone 42 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:47.520 and now this delirious drunken sex spot. This is the story of a delirious 43 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:54.199 drunken sex spot who finds solace in the shadow of a man who is deceased 44 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:57.360 in her attic. What do you think of this one, Mike? What 45 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.919 was expecting there to be a chest in this attic that you're not supposed to 46 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.039 move? And you definitely shouldn't put it out in the shed because I might 47 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:10.120 bust out and then end up back in the attic. Plus, like the 48 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:16.560 ghosts that you hire to kill your ex wife. Yeah, this feels so 49 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:23.199 familiar. Yes, Jielding Page gives a great performance, but she's just not 50 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:27.319 given a lot to do and to work with. It just is one of 51 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.800 these tell it to call you Billy type of things where you send the person 52 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:35.120 to their doom and you're just waiting and waiting and waiting. And I felt 53 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.879 so bad for the spirit that she just kept bothering with all of her drunken 54 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:44.759 blather, and I'm like, yeah, this he's happy being up in this 55 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.439 attic and never leaving and just wants to be in the woodwork. Why are 56 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:53.639 you bothering? If I felt personally attacked by this episode, I liked it 57 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:58.800 better when it was I'll never leave you ever. Yeah, I mean, 58 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:02.759 to Mike's point, it just kind of has this samey vibe of all these 59 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:06.959 other things that we've seen, kind of just forces it in there and then 60 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.800 blend it all up. Now you got something new. It's like, well, 61 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:15.120 it's kind of just everything else that we've seen blended up and masquerading is 62 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:16.839 something new, Like you blend up a hamburg er. It's a little hamburger 63 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:21.839 in a fucking cook cup. For Fox's sake. It's not any different, 64 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.800 is my point. It just tastes a little different because it's different. Consistency, 65 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.759 that's what this is. It's just eh okay. I mean, sure, 66 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:35.319 Geraldine Page is good, but this would have worked better if it had 67 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:42.680 been one of two segments in a two segment episode, because similar lead to 68 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.480 the things we talked about in the last episode. The format is now betraying 69 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:53.879 the show because some of these stories don't need all this time. They're kind 70 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:58.360 of making the stories fit the length of time, not the other way around, 71 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.600 and that can come to back bite you in the ass sometimes. And 72 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:05.720 it kind of has here because they spin their wheels a little bit and they 73 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:11.959 do this show thing where they show the same thing three times as opposed to 74 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.639 just twice. It's like, Jesus Christ, we don't need to see it 75 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:16.560 three and four times. I got it after the second time. First time 76 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:20.199 may have even been enough. But you know, again, in terms of 77 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:25.360 late in the game, the show is in the last kind of vestiges of 78 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.600 its existence. Eh, This is still better than a lot of those tales 79 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:30.680 from the Crypt episodes we watched at the end of that show's run. Those 80 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:36.399 episodes were so unintelligible they were borderline unentertaining. So at least there's still some 81 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:41.319 things to hold on to with this show, and it's kind of last days 82 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:45.879 before it goes the way of so many other anthologies. She goes, shame 83 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:49.519 on both of you for not enjoying the hell out of Frank Gorshen from Star 84 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:57.439 Trek appearing in this episode as the ghost. Well that's appropriate since lou Antonio 85 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:00.480 shows up in the next one. I agree with everything you're both just this 86 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:11.279 demonstrates a very frustrating aspect where we in previous seasons had episodes too short on 87 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:15.680 occasion and that needed to be fleshed out. Now we have all the time 88 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:18.959 in the world. In fact, we have the most talented people in front 89 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:23.000 of the camera for all the time in the world. We can tell any 90 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:27.839 story we want. Let's really tell a story. We needed one moment with 91 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:32.480 her ex husband just to show that relationship and how desperate and lonely she is, 92 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.439 and then it should just be her and the ghost for the rest of 93 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:39.800 the goddamned episode, and Her and the Ghost was the most minute part of 94 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:44.959 the episode. Why we didn't lead up to the ghost obviously having no other 95 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:49.120 choice but to kill everything it can, just for some peace. It doesn't 96 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:51.240 ever feel that. She just says, hey, would you do this? 97 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:54.600 And he's leave me alone, so I'll burn the house down. He's like, 98 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:58.519 yeah, whatever, And then does it like when he comes down the 99 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:03.360 stairs and she he's getting her just desserts that he's possessed the husband and cast 100 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:07.920 him into the attic and now he's going to murder her. He's saying, 101 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.839 like, why wouldn't you leave me alone? You didn't have to murder the 102 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:13.399 husband. You could have. She would have been committed, the house would 103 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:18.160 have returned to its original It doesn't. There's no stakes for the ghost to 104 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.319 do anything at all because we haven't built that up. That's what I took 105 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:30.040 away from this. Parley is no longer with us. What a decision we've 106 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:33.879 made. Huh. Ghosts with monotone voices are not scary. I don't know 107 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:39.519 who thought they were, but they're not. Ghost talking isn't scary. The 108 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:43.559 moment a ghost opens its mouth, it stops being scary. If it's this 109 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:48.679 kind of ghost. But yeah, a ghost you can have a conversation with. 110 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.000 Yeah, oh it can be reasoned with all of a sudden come on, 111 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.320 really, you know, the cent decoration was so fucking spectacular out there, 112 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.120 that plastic spider bouncing in the web and with that gig antic shadow on 113 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.399 the wall to accentuate it, it was fantastic. They're really putting in as 114 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.360 much effort as they really care to at this point, which seems to be 115 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:11.440 nothing. I had to watch this a few times, and I resented at 116 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:16.360 each time, even though the stuff between Geraldine Paige and Leigh Ericson is great, 117 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.799 the sort of when they're at each other about their relationship, and I 118 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:26.279 wanted, honestly to know more because I felt bad for her for most of 119 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:30.559 the episode. I just all we get is the husband saying she's a drunk 120 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.200 and whatever, and we get one scene of her obviously going too far, 121 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.519 but it seemed more desperate than mean. They end up painting her as the 122 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.320 Herodin because she asks the ghost to do this or threatens the ghost to do 123 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:46.200 it, but I don't know, the tone is very off. Like I 124 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:48.720 said, not only do we not build up to the fact that the ghost 125 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:52.440 has to do this for her, we don't really understand, or at least 126 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.240 for me. I didn't see her as anything but a pathetic character at the 127 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:01.159 beginning, certainly not something that I hated ever, Like the husband same here, 128 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.600 Yeah, I was like, Okay, she has some problems, but 129 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.679 they're mostly caused by Leif Erickson. And I had to say, he looks 130 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:13.559 really good for someone who is most active back in the eleventh century. That's 131 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:16.919 all I can think when I hear this actor's name, same fucking thing. 132 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.240 What did this guy do? Walk onto set? When you take his Viking 133 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.559 helmet off? Put down the glass of blood before every take? Okay, 134 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:33.000 I love the shots of Geraldine Page's eyes with as I sit here fucking benefit 135 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.320 of the audience, her eyes with the shot of the ghost inside. That 136 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:41.559 is that's peak night Gallery. Now doing the eyeshot from Colombo. They're doing 137 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:46.159 the glasses shot with Robert Culp in Colombo. They're doing it here, but 138 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.159 it's they're doing it in a way. That's why this just looks goofy, 139 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.279 and there's like the face in the background that kind of fades in and out. 140 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:56.480 It's I don't know, they use all the tricks in the book. 141 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:00.960 When every time she goes into the attic, it's pretty great. The addict 142 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:07.559 with the most even cobwebs. This perfect coverage, perfect cobweb coverage. Yes, 143 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:13.080 there's not one two by four that doesn't have the exact right amount of 144 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.559 cobwebs on their props to the prop sky. They do a lot of Pepper's 145 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.080 ghost stuff here that they have the actor on set and he's standing apart and 146 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.720 they have a plexiglass thing and he's a reflection and whatever. But during one 147 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.720 sequence where it's a camera roaming around it, it pans the room and it's 148 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.480 and it doesn't have the Peppers ghost effect. It's just the guy behind a 149 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.960 pane of glass and it's wow, got that guy painted up sitting there in 150 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:41.759 that attic, added to the overall ambiance of those perfect cobwebs and that ridiculous 151 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.080 rubber spider. What's going on here? Night Gallery? Are you okay? 152 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.080 Are The amount of time that they linger on that spider is hilarious. And 153 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.240 then they have another one. There's not just one, there's two fucking spiders. 154 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.519 And if they show the spider and then they cut away, and then 155 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:58.879 they cut back and they're showing another spiders, like, no, you didn't 156 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:03.440 even but she showed one. It was a problem. Yeah, I like, 157 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:05.120 I think they probably had the if you showed the back of the spider, 158 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.240 it has that little spot where you put on your finger like a ring 159 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:13.440 because they give kids at Halloween fucking embarrassing. What was the thing with the 160 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:18.720 pendit that she was I think she was trying to give that to Leif Erickson 161 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.759 and he was all mad about it, and it chose up right at the 162 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.639 end of the episode two. Yeah, I did not understand even what it 163 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:30.720 was. Something she had made or purchased for him, and then he refused 164 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:33.320 it, and then when she makes the decision that he's going to die, 165 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.080 she throws it away very symbolically. I think that was it was a birthday 166 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.320 gift, right because she had baked him a birthday cake. It was a 167 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:45.360 birthday dinner. And yeah, again I think Rod Serling and company meant for 168 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.200 us to think like she was being just pushy and gross there, and I 169 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:52.320 thought, oh, this is so sad. Somebody get her a friend, 170 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.320 get that. Where was that cat Leonard Nimoy tangled with It'll be company for 171 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.720 her. I think that's a testament to Geraldine Page as an actress, though, 172 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.919 that she's able to make the proverbial chicken salad out of chicken shit here. 173 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:09.759 She elevates it because I think anybody else would have been that kind of 174 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.360 just like nagging, just crone of a woman that you expect from this kind 175 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:18.679 of story. And this just like conniving again, conniving bitch is the way 176 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.559 that the way it's written on the page is totally just conniving beyond words, 177 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.240 and it doesn't come off that way at all. And I think this episode 178 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:30.440 is better for it, but I think it also hurts it because it feels 179 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:33.039 like, oh, there's a great performance surrounded by kind of some of the 180 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:37.000 worst things we've seen in this show so far in terms of set design, 181 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:43.600 faux paws that are so hard to ignore. Their like it's like a child's 182 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:48.159 fucking haunted house in an elementary school. The story Actually take that back. 183 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.039 It would probably be better at an elementary school because the adults would have done 184 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:56.960 it. The episode calls for Billie Northrop Adrian Barbo from Creep Show's character here, 185 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:01.879 oh totally, And instead what we got is this subtle, nuanced performance 186 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.679 by Geraldine Page. That made me really sad for her, which I'm not 187 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.919 in any way bagging on Adrian Barboa's performance. She is a perfect in creep 188 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:13.840 show that is exactly what that movie needed. And I'm saying it maybe this 189 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.240 episode needed a little bit more too, because Geraldine. Maybe is this a 190 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:22.039 case where Geraldine Page is too good for the episode? Is she? Yes? 191 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.480 Yeah? Maybe because I cared too much for her, was nominated for 192 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.840 an Oscar for being in two scenes in Pope of Greenwich Village. Yes, 193 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.600 she's too good for this episode. Yeah, she's a great actress. She's 194 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:37.840 a good actress. Every time we've seen her, she's good. This is 195 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.519 one of those cases where it's like, oh, I would say it's a 196 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.879 shame, but we have seen her be good in the show in season two 197 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.480 twice, so at least there is that. But I'm just gonna go on 198 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.080 a limb here because again, I feel like it needs to be mentioned. 199 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:58.960 These third season of these anthology shows are a fucking track. I don't get 200 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:03.000 it. Tails from the Ripped was this way, Twilight Zone eighty five was 201 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:07.519 this way? This show is this way? Like what why did everybody just 202 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.200 decide to give up collectively? At the same time, It's funny that you 203 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:15.600 brought up Billy because when she was sending leef ericson upstairs, I was like, 204 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:18.639 yeah, make sure you tell them to call you Billy. So should 205 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:24.240 have been her would have been a little bit more lively an episode instead of 206 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:30.320 a funeral dirge. He got her just desserts in the end, right, 207 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.480 But I just felt bad, you know, yeah, right right? No, 208 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.039 wrong, I just I yeah, I had a hard time. I 209 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.679 had a hard time understanding the moral compass of this episode. Let's put it 210 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:45.799 that way. Why couldn't he just leave? Like why did he have to 211 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.480 kill her? Just you got a body now, baby? Go out and 212 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:54.120 murdered elsewhere? She was a drunk and she tormented him, okay, day, 213 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:56.320 that's the thing. It was like one day she was just like, 214 00:15:58.000 --> 00:15:58.679 I want to talk to you, and he's leave me alone, and then 215 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:03.240 he starts talking to her. He only says, why are go such Dixon 216 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:07.039 this show? Like why there's been like very few positive ghost interactions in this 217 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:12.000 show. Praying interaction was great, you owe me now, sucker. It 218 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:15.360 is Twilight Zone adjacent, so I guess that the interactions are never going to 219 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:21.120 be positive. But All of the ghosts in Night Gallery all feels very samey 220 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:25.360 in their goals that they're trying to achieve, which is revenge on the humans 221 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:29.720 who have wronged them. Is seemingly all the usage of ghosts in this show 222 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:33.639 is revenge on the humans that wronged them, and this story is once again 223 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.639 another entry into that, because the ghost is mad that Geraldine page, what 224 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.879 bothered you, motherfucker? In the attic for an like a like a day, 225 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.279 man, I would like to see what happens if it goes past two 226 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:49.919 days? You disembowel me. Jesus. Don't you miss blackout sketches? I 227 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:55.639 do? I usually do. Yeah, I missed that, And we've had 228 00:16:55.759 --> 00:17:03.320 one this whole season, that stupid vampire or whatever it was. Smile Mike. 229 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:07.200 You describing it's better than the old thing. I think it takes me 230 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:11.240 longer to describe it than to watch it. We show paintings like this one 231 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:15.039 in a color scheme of blood red sky with corpse white moon. This, 232 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.680 we tell you up front, is the story of vampires, and of course 233 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:25.759 this must conjure up images of Bella Lagosi and Christopher Lee somewhat frigid, malevolent, 234 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:30.039 monstrous, creatures, but reserve such all conclusive judgment of the living dead 235 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:34.640 until you hear the story of a particular vampire, the kind you might find 236 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:38.480 in a place like this The night Gallery. All right, death out of 237 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.680 Bars. This is season three, episode twelve, first aired on March fourth, 238 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:45.960 nineteen seventy three. It was written by Halsted Wells from a short story 239 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:51.799 from the short story The Canal by Everell Warrel and this one was directed by 240 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:56.279 Leonard Nimoy. This one stars Leslie, Anne Warren, Leu Antonio, Brooke 241 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:00.240 Bundy, and Robert Pratt as Ron. This is the story of a beautiful 242 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.640 woman who resigns on a barge and won't come ashore no matter how badly she 243 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:08.359 and her potential suitor want it. What'd you think of this one, Chris? 244 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:15.440 I like this one better when the woman was a half fish. I 245 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.559 liked it when she was a ghost were wolf. Oh yeah? Or that 246 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:22.240 yeah again? I know that this this is based off of a story by 247 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:27.400 ever A Warl but sure it just it feels of a piece here. Leslie 248 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:33.240 and Warren is fine. I'm a huge I'm a huge fan of the I'm 249 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.160 a huge fan of the Fishmonger. Friend who is just the most dastardly fishmonger 250 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:45.240 around. Manna blackmail you to have sex with me, Like, yeah, 251 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.880 fishmongers, man I don't. Yeah, it's again. The morality of the 252 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:52.799 episode is a little strange, a little skewed, a Leslie, and Warren 253 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:57.799 gets a fucking got at the end. It's a third season episode, that's 254 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:04.279 what it is. What did you think? Mike Birling innocent tro goes this 255 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:08.680 we tell you up front is the story of vampires, and like, really, 256 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:15.200 maybe don't tell people that and let them guess what's going on, because 257 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:19.119 it feels like this skit would have been better. Sorry, this episode would 258 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:23.880 have been better had we not known that she was a vampire. I think 259 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:30.000 all of us on this call would know that vampires can't cross running water. 260 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.480 But it would be neat to have this weird old lady who sits on this 261 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:38.960 barge all the time. It's just like chatting this guy up and she won't 262 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.319 come ashore. Oh why is that? Why could that be? And then 263 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:48.160 we're gonna try to explore what that is and yeah, but instead it's this 264 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:53.079 is a story about a vampire. Okay, thanks, thanks, Yeah again. 265 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.200 It goes on for way too long. If it wasn't for Leslie and 266 00:19:56.279 --> 00:20:00.920 Warren, I would have nothing for this epis episode. I love her. 267 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:07.160 I really like Leu Antonio as the slisy fishmonger, but yeah, the main 268 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:10.119 character. I don't really care about the main character guy at all. He 269 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:15.640 seems just very milk toast. Leonard Nimoy should have played that part. Oh 270 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:21.119 there you go, then it would have been spectacular. Robert Pratt as Ron 271 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.000 is terrible. I don't like him in the slightest And you're right, Mike. 272 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.319 I remember Dark City, the movie Dark City, Alex Proyis's film that 273 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:34.759 Roger Ebert couldn't stop jizzing about all those years. And the thing. Have 274 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.240 you seen the director's cut of that movie where they remove the narration at the 275 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:41.240 beginning that lets you know exactly what you're about to see in the movie and 276 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:47.200 what everything is. It's pretty spectacular. Rod certainly cut the legs out from 277 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:51.720 whatever could have been potentially good about this episode by saying the word vampires in 278 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:55.599 the opening, You're absolutely right, because it is mysterious. You wouldn't know 279 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.240 what was going on. It was just some freaky lady out in the barge. 280 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.200 What's going on with that. Yeah, and if your keyed into vampire 281 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.480 Lord, then it's nice that you could figure that out. But this episode 282 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:07.720 is not. The episode was interested in a slow burn and Rod's like, 283 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:14.039 fuck you, sorry Spock. Now, I think Nemi did a really good 284 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.519 job. There's some crane shots in here that are fucking fantastic because he's a 285 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:21.000 first time director, and first time directors go all out. This is shot 286 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:25.079 entirely in the New England portion of the Universal backlot. He shoots it great. 287 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:29.599 It doesn't feel fucking stagy that that lagoon. He even manages to shoot 288 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.519 and not make it look like the fucking backlot, which I really liked. 289 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:37.400 This episode contains the single most suggestive line in all of Night Gallery history. 290 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:42.119 As you plunge it in cry out I love you. Oh yeah, that 291 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:48.200 was great, My god. I have lots of questions however, now that 292 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:52.920 but we can get into this episode. First of all, her dad love 293 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:56.000 that peg leg. I think we were robbed and not getting to see him 294 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.119 navigate across that plank, I would have loved that. Okay, yeah, 295 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.440 so what's the story about the dad. I was convinced that he was a 296 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:08.039 vampire, but she says something about how he goes out in the day, 297 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:11.599 she goes out in the night. So I was like, I guess he's 298 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:15.480 a day walker. It didn't make any sense to me that he would keep 299 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:19.640 his vampire daughter around because, like Chris says, she gets God at the 300 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:25.680 end, and they're like, why now, why kill her now when you've 301 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:29.680 had all these years to do that? She just fell in love. Oh, 302 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.559 he's had her on the barge and therefore she's not been the threat. 303 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.920 But now she can walk around, so she's got to go. I think 304 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:41.400 that's what it is. But she's so thirsty. She keeps saying, right, 305 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:47.880 she had to kill creepy lou Antonio. She didn't ever attack her father. 306 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.119 She's that thirsty. Is he feeding her? Did they talk at all? 307 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.200 They have some opra? He's her familiar, is he not? Like 308 00:22:55.319 --> 00:22:59.240 essentially he gets her food? But what food is getting? He's not getting 309 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.960 her food? No, we see, I mean he could be deposing, 310 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.119 he could be disposing of it. It would have been interesting had they been 311 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.079 like, oh, yeah, we go up and down this river every year, 312 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:12.680 we moved to a different spot and this time we're here and basically, 313 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:15.960 yeah, like the dad goes out and gets her food, brings back bodies 314 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:21.480 or animals or something for her to feast on. Dogs have been disappearing, 315 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:26.440 yes, some god, it's almost We have twenty five minutes and fifty five 316 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:32.599 seconds for this episode and they're focusing on the wrong things. What is this 317 00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:36.519 a story about VD because it kind of feels that way. Don't step out 318 00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:40.279 on your lady because you're gonna end up with a disease of the blood, 319 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:44.559 you know what I mean. That's what I mean. Vampirism is so about 320 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.079 that or could be a metaphor for that. Definitely definitely felt like this in 321 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.640 this case, or a metaphor for Nightmare before Christmas. Know your place. 322 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:55.880 Don't try and step out of your fucking mundane existence because you'll get fucking murdered 323 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:59.799 unless you murder it first. Exhausting some of these. I loved how it 324 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:03.759 avert the below deck was on that barge, My god, oh my lord. 325 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.119 Not only was it red velvet everything, but they had their own smoke 326 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:11.319 machine going in there. Fucking was right Ice. I'm guessing you see the 327 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:18.160 floor, what is that smoke everywhere? And just that haze that they shoot 328 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.960 the whole episode through too it's so oh boy, Yeah, seventies haze and 329 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:29.640 seventy's hair. His girlfriend, she looks like she could don the the leather 330 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:33.720 and become pit pinky Tuscadero just so easily. I guess she's more like doing 331 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.839 the Suzi quatro thing. I think. I love that they're sitting in director's 332 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.599 chairs too, at that table. It's like that that's set with I don't 333 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.640 know. Everything off of the barge and not to do with the barge is 334 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:51.759 so strangely designed, decorated, and yeah, every I don't know. It's 335 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:56.559 a strange episode for a number of reasons, not solely the one where yeah, 336 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:00.319 the father kills his daughter at the end for seeing no reason. Still 337 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.880 cannot, for the life of me figure out why. I have a practical 338 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:07.799 thing to point out. At one point, when they're fishmongering in their shack, 339 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.720 which is called Moby Dick's by the way, a customer asks for Benito 340 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:18.720 for four and then creepy lu Antonio says, pound and a half apiece? 341 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.839 Is everyone expected to eat a pound and a half of fish? That evening 342 00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:27.839 fish fish doesn't really cook down? Wow, those fish were some of the 343 00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:33.640 most disgusting looking fishes I've ever seen hope You guys like Beanito, we're gonna 344 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.160 be eaten for a while. Eat it now, Like that's Leu Antonio's idea 345 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:41.920 of a portion. What's going on at Moby Dick Stop it now? As 346 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:45.400 for the end, Okay, this guy makes this cuckoo decision that he's got 347 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.359 to go kill her. He's decided he's going to lure her out onto the 348 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.680 sand and not let her leave until the sun comes up and she'll burn up, 349 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.160 which she tells her you shall never tell you I'm going to kill you, 350 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:03.640 right. That's like Deacon Frost saying to Udo kir Hey, listen, 351 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.480 I'm going to put on motorcycle helmets, me and my crew and we're gonna 352 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.519 take you out here to the beach and take off your hood and let you 353 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.119 burn up in some really bad cgi. I mean, it'd be the same 354 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.119 thing. But no, it's a surprise. You got a surprise, Udo, 355 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:21.759 kir Well, you got a surprise, Zudo. Care because Leslie Anne 356 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:27.799 Warren is the most laissez fair vampire in the history of televised or cinematic incarnations. 357 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:30.359 She's like, I'm mayre to kill you, Like, yeah, okay, 358 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.720 but I can't do it. All right, good, then love me, 359 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.799 But I can't you understand I can't. I have to kill you. 360 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.400 Okay, there's a steak in the steak in the grab that steak just right 361 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.039 here, just right here, just stick in the freezer. Yeah, it's 362 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:49.079 about two and a half pounds. That's a porter. Kill me, don't 363 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.119 kill me. I'm gonna kill you. I'm not gonna kill you. And 364 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.559 then finally when peg Lake Joe comes in and goes to stab her, how 365 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.720 he doesn't stab through both of them? I don't understand. I thought he 366 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.240 did. That's what I thought was gonna happen. At the end, he's 367 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.119 like, fuck both these assholes. That would have been great had she bitten 368 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.640 him. And then he comes in and stabs them both like Friday the Thirteenth 369 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:14.359 style. That would have been great. But instead what we get is insta 370 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.160 bones. Oh boy, best best effect in this entire episode. I was 371 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:23.960 half expecting. In the background, O, it's like fucking parts of the 372 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:27.480 Caribagan and all of a sudden, what the hell with all the fog too? 373 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.200 Yeah? What a what an effect? Just put the dummy skeleton in 374 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:34.839 there with the stake through its chest, it'll work, guys, but the 375 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.400 actresses clothes on it to it look give him better. I don't think they 376 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:45.839 did a snap zoom onto that skeleton Skelington, but I really had wished they 377 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.920 had just to really drive the point home, you know hunintended. Yeah, 378 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:56.559 that was the best part of the episode. Is that is or when she's 379 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.519 Leslie and Warren is about to attack him and he like stops her. That 380 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.400 whole scene is strangely paced and shot because she's about to bite him and he's 381 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:08.359 like no, and it's like the camera work is strange, the timing is 382 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:15.079 super strange. Again, this I don't know. Leonard Nimoy like, I'm 383 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.119 glad he was directing it, But boy, I wish you had directed like 384 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.079 the first or second season of this show, because it would have been Steven 385 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:30.079 Spielberg directed episode show is It's hard because this feels so far from that. 386 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:36.000 He almost directed two episodes, I think, but then didn't. Right Spielberg, 387 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.720 Well, he directed. He definitely directed the pilot episode, ay, 388 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.559 but then it's attributed to him. But make Me Laugh is not his According 389 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:47.680 to him, I thought there was plans for him to do another one, 390 00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:52.160 and they were like he got busy or something. Yeah, I believe he 391 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:55.680 had done two episodes of another show and they offered it this and he said 392 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.640 he couldn't do it. And that's when Jack Laird said he'd never work for 393 00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:02.240 Universal again. Can I say, to the point of talking about this barge 394 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:07.160 and Universal, I half expected the fucking Josh Shark, the Jaws Shark's popping 395 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.480 out about ten feet behind the set, right. That's like, no, 396 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.200 not yet, not in seventy two. You know what I'm getting out. 397 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:21.279 It's of course, this feels so fucking set bound. It's so set bound. 398 00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:23.640 All the stuff away from the barge is fine, but that barge is 399 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.880 just a man, that's just a set. That's just a set. Nope, 400 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.720 I like that barge. I thought it was good. I thought it 401 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.480 was well shot. Actually I know it's the back lot, but it didn't. 402 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:37.519 There are certain hallmarks that less experienced filmmakers, which is funny because this 403 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:42.359 is his first time. Like you can it's glaring that we're just out back 404 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.480 here and there's a grip truck just out of frame. Can I say that 405 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:51.359 I have a hard time taking vampires anything seriously anymore, as such a huge 406 00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:53.680 fan of what we do in the Shadows because vampires. I just have a 407 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:59.240 hard time taking vampires seriously anymore because they're just so fun and I don't know, 408 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:00.920 like vampires isn't scary. I don't know if this is trying to be 409 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:07.039 scary, but it doesn't succeed at much other than giving us, once again 410 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:12.640 some really choice decisions in terms of set decoration and effects, because I would 411 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:17.839 say the spiders and the cobwebs are in effect the same way the skeleton with 412 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.279 the spear through its chest is an effect in this episode. I think this 413 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.680 episode could have done with a little bit more character work between the lead and 414 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.039 the female lead and a better actor playing that part, and less of the 415 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.720 b plot of this fright night bullshit. Have we got to save Charlie from 416 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.680 the very park kind of stuff with a girlfriend who cares about any of that 417 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:42.319 about the other friend? Like this was a story about this guy and this 418 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:47.880 girl, or it was a VD thing. It's better if you read it 419 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.839 as a VD thing, but not much better. All Right, We're going 420 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.119 to play a preview of our next episode and we'll be right back to wrap 421 00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:57.720 things up. Strips of ethereal night clouds are seen from the vantage point of 422 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:03.079 a square, a group of tombstone, and the face of a neutral onlooker 423 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.319 who surveys the silence, or perhaps not quite total silence, because the name 424 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.759 of our painting is Whisper, and it tells the story of one body inhabited 425 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.240 by two people, and at a point, as you can well imagine, 426 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:19.359 this gets crowded. And if this one doesn't ice up to you of spine, 427 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:25.039 we'll send you one of our official apologies along with the body. That's 428 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:30.720 the kind of guarantee you get in the night gallery we call your attention to 429 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:36.960 this gentle facial study would be one visible intriguing eye and a windblown hair. 430 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:44.440 And to those of you whose visual acuity is perhaps better than most, you'll 431 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.200 note these skulls that that one eye is contemplating. This painting is called Doll 432 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.920 of Death and it tells a story that takes place in the West Indies, 433 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.640 where the ancient art of voodoo is still practiced and celebrated. Now, if 434 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.000 you don't believe in voodoo, you can take this with a grain of salt. 435 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:05.920 On the other hand, if you find yourself dancing to that distant drummer 436 00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:10.400 and the drum seems to beckon check for missing pins and brand new dolls. 437 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:19.759 This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is the Night Gallery. That's right on the 438 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.079 next Midnight Viewing. We'll be taking a look at season three episodes thirteen and 439 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:29.440 fourteen, Whisper and The Doll of Death Midnight Viewing. The Night Gallery podcast 440 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.759 is a proud member of Weirdingway Media Group and the theme song was composed by 441 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:36.160 HP Until next time? What are you working on? Where can people find 442 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.000 it? Mike White? 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